July 31, 2025 • 51 mins
In this episode, Chris sits down with legendary CEO and leadership thinker Dr. Klaus Kleinfeld for a deep dive into the hidden engine behind long-term success: energy.
From running global companies like Siemens and Alcoa to mentoring the next generation of leaders, Klaus shares why burnout is not a badge of honor—and how purpose, mindset, and daily habits are the real levers of performance. This conversation is a masterclass on managing your inner game so you can lead with clarity, stamina, and conviction, no matter the chaos around you.
Whether you’re a founder on the brink, a high-achiever running out of steam, or simply someone who wants to lead better and live fuller—this episode is your blueprint.
Timestamps:
(00:04) – From Siemens to Startups: Klaus’s Career Journey
(03:50) – Burnout in Founders & Why Energy Is Everything
(15:22) – The Inner Game vs. The Outer Game of Leadership
(28:40) – The Purpose Principle: “Love It, Change It, or Leave It”
(37:15) – Culture, Respect, and Leading Across Borders
(45:09) – Sleep, Breathwork & Physical Hacks for High Energy
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Klaus' Website: http://leading-to-thrive.com/
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