March 19, 2024 • 11 mins
In this short and atypical episode, I navigate the choppy waters of a St. Louis tragedy that's stirred a national conversation, examining the threads of violence, and the power of our rawest emotions. It's a departure from the norm, but one that invites you to join in a session both therapeutic and thought-provoking.
With my former radio and current Tuttle & Kline Podcast partner, Tim Tuttle, we journey through the aftermath of a violent school altercation that has left one girl hospitalized and another girl arrested. It calls into question the threads that weave our society together—and sometimes tear it apart.
Tim and I discuss humanity's darker moments, as we contemplate the societal fissures that define us. This isn't just another discussion; it's a candid exploration of personal impact and the search for understanding within the chaos of our divided world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Fuzzy Mike.
The interview series, thepodcast, whatever Kevin wants to
call it.
It's Fuzzy Mike, Hello, andthank you for joining the Fuzzy
Mike.
A little different episode thisweek.
Don't have a guest.
A guest that I was supposed tospeak with had to reschedule, so
it's okay that that happens.
(00:21):
And it's actually kind ofironic that it happened this
week, because there is somethingon my mind that I want to talk
about, and I don't like talkingabout things by myself.
I like to talk through themwith other people, and so the
other podcast that I'm a part of, the Tuttle and Climb podcast,
which has new episodes everyWednesday.
My radio partner from 20 for 28years was Tim Tuttle, and he
(00:45):
and I are back together doing apodcast, and he's wicked smart.
Yeah, I know, wicked smart.
No, I'm not from the East Coast, I'm Midwest born and bred.
I don't even know why I saidthat.
Anyway, I like to bounce thingsoff of Tim and he's helping me
with a major dilemma that I havethis week.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
St Louis, by the way, is Kevin Kline's hometown, and
and Kev, I know that there's astory going on right now in St
Louis that really has jumped inyour head and you know,
obviously I want this podcastnot only to be us, you know, not
goofing around and and beingidiots, but also, you know, a
little bit of a therapy thing.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
What's?
What's on your mind, buddy?
I don't know.
Man, this is pretty heavy.
Do you really want to get intoit, or just having just a great
riff, I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
it's you know what.
Let's just touch on it a littlebit.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, well it's.
It's a story that's goneinternational, not this past
Friday, but the Friday before.
Two girls in high school atHazelwood East High School got
into a fight and one of thegirls got on top of the other
girl and bashed her head intothe concrete multiple times and
(01:55):
the girl is now in the hospital,basically brain damaged and
basically fighting for her life.
And it's it was a black girland a white girl and the white
girl is like 105 pounds wet andthe black girl is a lot bigger,
but apparently the white girlstarted the fight and she's
(02:17):
apparently the bully in theschool.
And finally the 15 year oldblack girl had had enough and
she, they, they fought.
But my thing is you, you'veneutralized the situation.
When you get the girl to theground and you're on top of her,
there's no reason to bash herhead into the concrete three
times.
And I can't unsee the video.
(02:39):
And it wasn't that I wentlooking for the video.
It popped up in my newsfeed andit said it said warning graphic
.
And I'm like they're not goingto show that and they did and I
can't unsee it, man.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I'm so sorry man, I'm so sorry that you know,
and Kev, I mean and it's not arace issue with me, it's a
humanitarian issue with me.
I forget about what themainstream media and then a
propaganda and their agendadivide us all.
I mean, that's what that's whatthat's all about.
You know, if you, if you lookat the world today, the people
who scream racist are the actualracist.
(03:14):
The people who scream Nazi andfascist, they're actually using
Nazi and fascist methodology.
That would make Hitler proud.
So, in terms of I have to saythis in defense of the black
girl Kev is, when you get inthat mode and you've never been
(03:35):
in it, have you ever been in afight?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
No, I mean not a, not an uncontrolled one.
I've been in boxing matches.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, I know you're going to find this hard to
believe, but I used to be alittle bit of a pugilistic
asshole.
No, you.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
A little bit.
I'm not proud of it.
The guy that bowed up on RoyJones Jr used to fight.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Imagine, and you know , when you're in that that mode,
it's hard to come down.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, adrenaline is runninghigh.
I get that.
I get that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I remember I was, I split up with this is my very
first girlfriend that I was.
You know I have her quoteunquote love the puppy, love
thing.
Her name is Stephanie and thisis at Ball State and we split up
and I she started datinganother guy, john Griffith or
something like that, and I sawthem at a party, an apartment
(04:33):
complex party, and I walked intothe same party and they were
together and he made some kindof look on me.
He looked at me like kind offunny, like you know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I got her.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And I blacked out and you know I was there with
Trevor Lee, my buddy and acouple and he and I have no idea
what happened until you know,maybe 15, 20 minutes after my
friends pulled me out of thereand and allegedly I hit him like
35 times in 15 seconds.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Did you bash his?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
head on concrete.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, I did not, it was all punches.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It was all punches and and even.
Even that aside, okay, thebashing of the head on the
concrete, which is extreme, isexcessive, and it's it's going
to.
If she dies, at least at theleast, it's going to be second
degree homicide, second degreemanslaughter.
If she survives it's going tobe a felony assault.
But what bothers me more aboutthis whole thing is when the
(05:40):
girl is laying in the street andshe's convulsing, people are
fighting over her, not fightingto help her.
They're fighting each otherover her.
Nobody's helping her and I'mlike where did we fucking go
wrong?
Oh, I know we don't care aboutanybody anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I know there's no compassion at all.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
None, none.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And I don't know whether that's we're
desensitized to it because ofthe movies we watch and the
video games we play and stufflike that, but that is, yeah,
that's all.
You always want at least acouple people that are present
to go.
Okay, man, you know weunderstand what happened there
bully getting fought back on.
Now we've got to address thesituation instead of it
(06:20):
continuing to escalate.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And that's my whole point.
We just got to care.
You know, we just got to bebetter.
We got to care.
You know, fights are going tohappen.
I get it.
Fights happen.
When I was in school, fightsare still going to happen.
But when somebody is beat, youas the other fighter stop, or
somebody with a cooler head hasto step in and say, look,
(06:45):
they've had enough.
That didn't happen here.
I mean, in professionalfighting, you have referees for
that, you know, and referees arethere to protect the fighters.
Somebody's got to be there toprotect the battants and that
didn't happen in this case.
So you know, bullying is amental health issue and
(07:06):
apparently both girls were beingbullied.
I mean, it all depends on whoyou read and what story you
believe, but there's probablysome culpability on both sides
as far as why this started andwhy this escalated.
But it did not need to go tothe spot, the length, the degree
that it ended up going.
So I don't know.
I just, I just want us to dobetter.
(07:28):
I want to do better.
So I will be on the lookout foropportunities that I have where
I can help somebody out.
You know, let's just try thatthis week, even if it's just a
compliment help somebody out.
You know, that's all you got todo.
Let's lift up other people.
Let's not tear other peopledown there.
(07:48):
There's my soapbox.
I'm off it.
Thank you for listening.
Like follow rate, all that kindof stuff, I mean my heart's
just not into it, not into itthis week.
I'm so sorry and I owe youbetter.
I really do, but this has beenbothering me now for you know
hell.
It happened two Fridays ago.
(08:09):
So yeah, for that long.
So he has to move on now.
It's crazy how I went to bed theother night and I was having a
good day, I was having a reallygood day, but I laid my head
down on the pillow.
I don't know what I wasthinking about.
I don't think I went.
I know I wasn't thinking aboutthis fight.
I had a great day.
Lay my head down on the pillow,woke up the next day, just not
(08:33):
feeling it.
It's not feeling anything, notfeeling life, not feeling happy,
not feeling.
I mean I wasn't sad, I wasn'tmad, I just wasn't feeling.
You know, and those days happenand you got to ride them out
and I wrote it out.
I'm coming around.
This was just four days ago,but still still kind of
(08:58):
melancholy, I guess, you know.
And, yeah, this news story hassomething to do about it, but it
just happens, man, it's justchemical, you know, and you got
to write it out.
You got to ride the wave andyou got to think about something
to look forward to.
And for me that's going to be arun later on today and running
(09:19):
the rest of the week, and thenit's going to be doing the
Tuttle Climb podcast, which Ithoroughly enjoy, and then I've
got to surprise some familymembers later on this weekend,
so really excited about that.
So when things aren't goingright, you've got to find
someplace to go to look forpositivity and rearrange and
re-change your thought process,and it's still something I'm
(09:41):
learning, learning how to do so.
Hopefully you'll continue thisjourney with me and we'll
continue to help each other andget inspiration from each other
and turn negatives intopositives.
How's that sound?
Sound good to you?
Sounds great to me.
Thank you so much for listeningand I'm sorry I didn't have a
guest this week.
I will try and get a guest onnext week.
We had a cancellation andsometimes that happens, you know
(10:04):
, and thankfully I had my buddy,tim Tuttle, there to help me
get this topic started and, youknow, have somebody to bounce
off of, listen.
There's nothing more boringthan just sitting here looking
into a camera and talking into amicrophone and wondering if
you're out there listening.
I mean, what do I particularlyhave to say that is entertaining
or thought-provoking or worthlistening to?
(10:25):
Many of you would say nothing,klein and I get that, but always
nice to have somebody else tobounce back off of and open up
maybe a different perspectivethat I'm not thinking of.
So hopefully I've provided thatfor you Again.
The Fuzzy Mike is hosted andproduced by Kevin Klein.
Production elements from ZachSheesh at the Radio Farm.
Social media director is TrishKlein.
(10:45):
Thank you to you for listening.
Don't forget to like, followrate, all that kind of stuff and
please share the Fuzzy Mikewith your friends and family and
even enemies.
That'll be something nice youcan do this week.
See you next week.
Thank you so much.
That's it for the Fuzzy Mike.
Thank you.
This is Fuzzy Mike with KevinKlein.
Welcome to the Fuzzy Mike.
The interview series, thepodcast, whatever Kevin wants to
call it.
It's Fuzzy Mike, Hello, andthank you for joining the Fuzzy
Mike.
A little different episode thisweek.
Don't have a guest.
A guest that I was supposed tospeak with had to reschedule, so
it's okay that that happens.
(00:21):
And it's actually kind ofironic that it happened this
week, because there is somethingon my mind that I want to talk
about, and I don't like talkingabout things by myself.
I like to talk through themwith other people, and so the
other podcast that I'm a part of, the Tuttle and Climb podcast,
which has new episodes everyWednesday.
My radio partner from 20 for 28years was Tim Tuttle, and he
(00:45):
and I are back together doing apodcast, and he's wicked smart.
Yeah, I know, wicked smart.
No, I'm not from the East Coast, I'm Midwest born and bred.
I don't even know why I saidthat.
Anyway, I like to bounce thingsoff of Tim and he's helping me
with a major dilemma that I havethis week.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
St Louis, by the way, is Kevin Kline's hometown, and
and Kev, I know that there's astory going on right now in St
Louis that really has jumped inyour head and you know,
obviously I want this podcastnot only to be us, you know, not
goofing around and and beingidiots, but also, you know, a
little bit of a therapy thing.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
What's?
What's on your mind, buddy?
I don't know.
Man, this is pretty heavy.
Do you really want to get intoit, or just having just a great
riff, I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
it's you know what.
Let's just touch on it a littlebit.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Okay, well it's.
It's a story that's goneinternational, not this past
Friday, but the Friday before.
Two girls in high school atHazelwood East High School got
into a fight and one of thegirls got on top of the other
girl and bashed her head intothe concrete multiple times and
(01:55):
the girl is now in the hospital,basically brain damaged and
basically fighting for her life.
And it's it was a black girland a white girl and the white
girl is like 105 pounds wet andthe black girl is a lot bigger,
but apparently the white girlstarted the fight and she's
(02:17):
apparently the bully in theschool.
And finally the 15 year oldblack girl had had enough and
she, they, they fought.
But my thing is you, you'veneutralized the situation.
When you get the girl to theground and you're on top of her,
there's no reason to bash herhead into the concrete three
times.
And I can't unsee the video.
(02:39):
And it wasn't that I wentlooking for the video.
It popped up in my newsfeed andit said it said warning graphic
.
And I'm like they're not goingto show that and they did and I
can't unsee it, man.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Yeah, I'm so sorry man, I'm so sorry that you know,
and Kev, I mean and it's not arace issue with me, it's a
humanitarian issue with me.
I forget about what themainstream media and then a
propaganda and their agendadivide us all.
I mean, that's what that's whatthat's all about.
You know, if you, if you lookat the world today, the people
who scream racist are the actualracist.
(03:14):
The people who scream Nazi andfascist, they're actually using
Nazi and fascist methodology.
That would make Hitler proud.
So, in terms of I have to saythis in defense of the black
girl Kev is, when you get inthat mode and you've never been
(03:35):
in it, have you ever been in afight?
Speaker 1 (03:36):
No, I mean not a, not an uncontrolled one.
I've been in boxing matches.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Okay, I know you're going to find this hard to
believe, but I used to be alittle bit of a pugilistic
asshole.
No, you.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
A little bit.
I'm not proud of it.
The guy that bowed up on RoyJones Jr used to fight.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Imagine, and you know , when you're in that that mode,
it's hard to come down.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, adrenaline is runninghigh.
I get that.
I get that.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I remember I was, I split up with this is my very
first girlfriend that I was.
You know I have her quoteunquote love the puppy, love
thing.
Her name is Stephanie and thisis at Ball State and we split up
and I she started datinganother guy, john Griffith or
something like that, and I sawthem at a party, an apartment
(04:33):
complex party, and I walked intothe same party and they were
together and he made some kindof look on me.
He looked at me like kind offunny, like you know.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
I got her.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
And I blacked out and you know I was there with
Trevor Lee, my buddy and acouple and he and I have no idea
what happened until you know,maybe 15, 20 minutes after my
friends pulled me out of thereand and allegedly I hit him like
35 times in 15 seconds.
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Did you bash his?
Speaker 1 (05:12):
head on concrete.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, I did not, it was all punches.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
It was all punches and and even.
Even that aside, okay, thebashing of the head on the
concrete, which is extreme, isexcessive, and it's it's going
to.
If she dies, at least at theleast, it's going to be second
degree homicide, second degreemanslaughter.
If she survives it's going tobe a felony assault.
But what bothers me more aboutthis whole thing is when the
(05:40):
girl is laying in the street andshe's convulsing, people are
fighting over her, not fightingto help her.
They're fighting each otherover her.
Nobody's helping her and I'mlike where did we fucking go
wrong?
Oh, I know we don't care aboutanybody anymore.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
I know there's no compassion at all.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
None, none.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
And I don't know whether that's we're
desensitized to it because ofthe movies we watch and the
video games we play and stufflike that, but that is, yeah,
that's all.
You always want at least acouple people that are present
to go.
Okay, man, you know weunderstand what happened there
bully getting fought back on.
Now we've got to address thesituation instead of it
(06:20):
continuing to escalate.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
And that's my whole point.
We just got to care.
You know, we just got to bebetter.
We got to care.
You know, fights are going tohappen.
I get it.
Fights happen.
When I was in school, fightsare still going to happen.
But when somebody is beat, youas the other fighter stop, or
somebody with a cooler head hasto step in and say, look,
(06:45):
they've had enough.
That didn't happen here.
I mean, in professionalfighting, you have referees for
that, you know, and referees arethere to protect the fighters.
Somebody's got to be there toprotect the battants and that
didn't happen in this case.
So you know, bullying is amental health issue and
(07:06):
apparently both girls were beingbullied.
I mean, it all depends on whoyou read and what story you
believe, but there's probablysome culpability on both sides
as far as why this started andwhy this escalated.
But it did not need to go tothe spot, the length, the degree
that it ended up going.
So I don't know.
I just, I just want us to dobetter.
(07:28):
I want to do better.
So I will be on the lookout foropportunities that I have where
I can help somebody out.
You know, let's just try thatthis week, even if it's just a
compliment help somebody out.
You know, that's all you got todo.
Let's lift up other people.
Let's not tear other peopledown there.
(07:48):
There's my soapbox.
I'm off it.
Thank you for listening.
Like follow rate, all that kindof stuff, I mean my heart's
just not into it, not into itthis week.
I'm so sorry and I owe youbetter.
I really do, but this has beenbothering me now for you know
hell.
It happened two Fridays ago.
(08:09):
So yeah, for that long.
So he has to move on now.
It's crazy how I went to bed theother night and I was having a
good day, I was having a reallygood day, but I laid my head
down on the pillow.
I don't know what I wasthinking about.
I don't think I went.
I know I wasn't thinking aboutthis fight.
I had a great day.
Lay my head down on the pillow,woke up the next day, just not
(08:33):
feeling it.
It's not feeling anything, notfeeling life, not feeling happy,
not feeling.
I mean I wasn't sad, I wasn'tmad, I just wasn't feeling.
You know, and those days happenand you got to ride them out
and I wrote it out.
I'm coming around.
This was just four days ago,but still still kind of
(08:58):
melancholy, I guess, you know.
And, yeah, this news story hassomething to do about it, but it
just happens, man, it's justchemical, you know, and you got
to write it out.
You got to ride the wave andyou got to think about something
to look forward to.
And for me that's going to be arun later on today and running
(09:19):
the rest of the week, and thenit's going to be doing the
Tuttle Climb podcast, which Ithoroughly enjoy, and then I've
got to surprise some familymembers later on this weekend,
so really excited about that.
So when things aren't goingright, you've got to find
someplace to go to look forpositivity and rearrange and
re-change your thought process,and it's still something I'm
(09:41):
learning, learning how to do so.
Hopefully you'll continue thisjourney with me and we'll
continue to help each other andget inspiration from each other
and turn negatives intopositives.
How's that sound?
Sound good to you?
Sounds great to me.
Thank you so much for listeningand I'm sorry I didn't have a
guest this week.
I will try and get a guest onnext week.
We had a cancellation andsometimes that happens, you know
(10:04):
, and thankfully I had my buddy,tim Tuttle, there to help me
get this topic started and, youknow, have somebody to bounce
off of, listen.
There's nothing more boringthan just sitting here looking
into a camera and talking into amicrophone and wondering if
you're out there listening.
I mean, what do I particularlyhave to say that is entertaining
or thought-provoking or worthlistening to?
(10:25):
Many of you would say nothing,klein and I get that, but always
nice to have somebody else tobounce back off of and open up
maybe a different perspectivethat I'm not thinking of.
So hopefully I've provided thatfor you Again.
The Fuzzy Mike is hosted andproduced by Kevin Klein.
Production elements from ZachSheesh at the Radio Farm.
Social media director is TrishKlein.
(10:45):
Thank you to you for listening.
Don't forget to like, followrate, all that kind of stuff and
please share the Fuzzy Mikewith your friends and family and
even enemies.
That'll be something nice youcan do this week.
See you next week.
Thank you so much.
That's it for the Fuzzy Mike.
Thank you.
This is Fuzzy Mike with KevinKlein.
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