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Mark Trobough (00:01):
Hey everybody.
It's Mark here with the GameJunction Podcast.
Here's Brandon as well.
What's up?

Brandon Hurles (00:07):
My name's Fred.

Mark Trobough (00:09):
Oh, he's so stupid.
Welcome everybody to episode114 of the Game Junction Podcast
.
It's been another week, anothergood week, not the most busy
week ever, but happy Friday.
It's the first episode of thenew year 2025.
We'll be always having a good,or had a good, holiday season,
at the very least.
Yeah, you know, christmas andNew Year's and stuff like that.

(00:31):
Yeah, for sure.

Brandon Hurles (00:32):
Yeah, crazy 2025 , 2024.
Flew by fast, it seems like tome.
It's both fast and slow at thesame time.
Yeah, yeah, it seems slow atthe same time.
Yeah, it seems slow at the time, but it's like afterwards.
You're like man that flew by.
But it's like the older you get, the faster time seems to move.

(00:53):
It's just a thing.
The older I get.
That's how I feel.
Yeah, I don't.
I think it's.
You know, it's us thinkingabout our inevitable doom, right
?

Mark Trobough (01:06):
I mean maybe you, not me, I'm going to live
forever, okay.

Brandon Hurles (01:10):
You must be tight with Elon Musk.

Mark Trobough (01:14):
We get that brain chip implanted.
Get some nanobots in me.
Yeah, that's the way to do it,man, that's the way I'm doing it
.
Yeah, for sure.
Do you have any big plans for2025?
You call it a New Year'sresolution.
I don't call it that.
I think those are stupid butstuff that you'd want to do in
2025.

Brandon Hurles (01:34):
Yeah, I don't really do New Year's resolutions
either.
It was like five days in 95% ofpeople it's hey, I want to lose
weight.
They go to the gym for thefirst two months and then they
stop.
So, like I always make thatjoke, which is the truth, I mean
, that's the truth, right, likethat's when gyms make the most
money.
It takes about 21 days to form ahabit to be consistent with

(01:57):
that habit and then people aresaying they're going to the gym
and they're going like twice aweek, that ain't doing nothing.
I'm sorry that's not doinganything.
You got to be going like fivedays a week.
Yeah, realistically, yeah forsure.
But I mean no, I mean 2025,like I guess I don't know.
I want to semi say keep doingwhat I'm doing, but I just want

(02:20):
to get better at what I'm doingdoing, but I just want to get
better at what.
I'm doing.
I want to learn, yeah, I wantto refine it, I want to learn
new things.
I mean, editing is a big thingwhere I want to keep learning,
because I don't want to becomplacent, I don't want to be
stuck and then like, like youcan attest to this, you know,
the beginning of editing can bevery frustrating when you don't

(02:42):
know anything at all and you'reyou're literally learning on
your own.
Um, there's still so much Idon't know.
I mean, I'm not, you know, uh,a great even though I edit for
other people.
I still wouldn't say I'm like asuper good editor, any or
anything there's, you know, andI've switched now to a third
software, um, so I'm wanting tolearn that software a little bit

(03:04):
more.
And, uh, you know, as far aslike game junction goes, I guess
you know just, um, I for themost part, I mean, I think, 2024
there's definitely been toomany weeks that I've missed
videos.
That bothers me, um, not justyou know, know, I, I still did

(03:25):
good, but there's just been liketoo many weeks where I've you
almost in your head make excusesfor yourself, like I, I am
really freaking busy.
You know, I've got a kid, I'vegot two jobs.
Um, I am very busy.
I don't have free time.
I don't get to sit down andplay video games.
My sitting down and play videogames is when I stream, and
that's doing double duty.

(03:47):
I get to stream, talk withpeople on the stream, but also
it's like I dedicate this time.
It's scheduled out, I'll get toplay, but yeah, I mean I don't
get to do anything else.
I would like to maybe travel tosome more conventions again this

(04:07):
year.
Didn't really do that in 2024.
Did it like crazy in 2023.
I got kind of burnt out.
I went to 17 in total and thenlast year I went to two.
So I would like to go to somemore because that was my.
That's the only time I'vetraveled, I mean realistically,

(04:28):
before that, the last time Itraveled out of state was going
to Washington DC in seventhgrade.
So you know you can get outmore.
It's hard as a kid man.
You can't really just like justguys.
It's hard with.
It's hard as a kid man.
You can't really just like justguys if it, if it's work
related, you know, and with thegame juncture stuff that was.

(04:48):
You know, I was able to workaround that to be able to do
that, but it's not like you'regone for a week at a time or
whatever.
You know, some of them are oneday, some are two days, some are
.
But yeah, I would like to dothat because I enjoy speaking at
panels and stuff like that.
I think it's fun having peoplein there asking you questions
and people that are interestedin content and stuff like that.

(05:13):
But I guess my big goal is justto learn more, soak more stuff
in, get out of my comfort zone alittle bit and yeah, I mean
that's you know a little bit it.
But you know, as far as animejunction cast, like not
necessarily a goal, but it'sdoing very well we're not that

(05:33):
far in and, like you know, kindof my hope is that, you know,
really really takes off in 2024.
I wouldn't have expected it totake off or do anything until
like 2025 because, like we're,you know, and over a hundred
episodes in with this, and likewe're how many episodes in with
the anime junction cast?

Mark Trobough (05:51):
14 or 15 episodes in 16 this week 15 episodes in
we're doing.

Brandon Hurles (05:57):
We got people in what Bangladesh listening?
I'm like that, Spotify andIndia and stuff, which is the
coolest thing ever to know thatsomebody out of the country is
checking out your podcast.
It's just a cool feeling.
So what about you, man?

Mark Trobough (06:13):
Yeah, I mean I guess it's up in the air.
You obviously want the AnimeJunction stuff to take off.
Continue to do well.
But I got a bunch of stuff inmy personal life that's up in
the air that I'm trying tofigure out.
I'll hear in a few months.
So ideally, there's some stuffthat I want to have happen that
I'll talk about more when I knowwhat's actually going to happen

(06:35):
for sure and stuff like thatwith timelines and what's
actually going to go on.
But I've got some other stuff,personal stuff I do need.
There's other stuff I need todo.
I need to stop being lazy aboutgoing to the gym.

Game Junction (06:44):
That's an obvious thing, that's a big thing for
me too.

Mark Trobough (06:51):
I would say try to continue working on school,
but starting Monday I've goteight weeks worth of two classes
.
Then I'm done and I swear offschool.
I'd never want to sit in aclassroom ever again.
I hate it so much.

Brandon Hurles (07:09):
I don't blame you here.
I am considering going backagain, even though I just went
last year.

Mark Trobough (07:13):
With this one, I'll have that fully off my
chest and I'll have $2,000 or$3,000 of debt that I still owe
them, or something like that.

Brandon Hurles (07:22):
I mean that's great because I'm well over that
amount of debt, but I still owethem, or something like that.
I mean that's great because I'mwell over that amount.
For me personally.

Mark Trobough (07:28):
Yeah, I had the benefit of essentially not
needing to pay, having my schoolpaid for.

Brandon Hurles (07:33):
Yeah, that's cool man.
That's cool stuff for sure.
Hey, not to break up the showat all, but did you alert the
Discord that we're live bychance?
I'm trying to get that, I will,okay.

Mark Trobough (07:44):
Yeah, sorry, it auto-pings the Discord, but
people don't see it because itdoesn't add everyone.
It auto-populates, but itdoesn't ping everybody.
Yeah, exactly.

Brandon Hurles (07:57):
Yeah, so sorry for audio listeners.
We're just setting up a fewthings, just realizing we didn't
get promo out right before theshow.

Mark Trobough (08:04):
Yeah, the Twitch is going to look a little weird
for a second while I do this.

Brandon Hurles (08:07):
Yeah, no worries , I want to get some other stuff
out, but yeah, I guess for thisnew year we'll see what the
year brings us.
I think there's a lot of goodthings to come.
I mean, we've got plans forstuff.
When we're not on air, we talkabout some different things

(08:30):
we're going to do.
We talked about with theJunction Network channel about
you maybe doing like a sort oftop ten for anime.
That's all different, maybeonce a month, which I think is
really cool because I meanthat's kind of endless, which I
think is really cool becausethat's kind of endless.
You get a top 10 hentai, top 10shoujo he's so stupid.

(08:51):
Yeah, all kinds of top 10s youcan do.
But yeah, I think we got somepretty good plans there.
We also broke a thousand on oneof our videos.
Right, that was the top 10starting anime video.

Mark Trobough (09:10):
Yeah, first video on that channel to break 1,000.

Brandon Hurles (09:13):
Yeah, that's pretty cool man.
Good stuff for sure.
I think one of the things I gotto figure out was like what
content direction I want to gowith Game Junction, because I've
got like the way that my brainworks is that I have too many
ideas if that makes sense, andit's like I can't decide on one

(09:39):
particular route and I reallydon't want to ever be boxed in
route and I really don't want toever be boxed in.
But unfortunately, the way thatYouTube works is that you kind
of find a little I don't want tosay niche, because it's just
gaming but you find a littlepocket that you fit into and
then that's where people startwatching you.

(09:59):
You know what I mean.
It's like you find that littlepocket and it's like trying to
find that when gaming channelsare a dime, a dozen, you know
there's so many gaming channels,you're you're competing with so
many people, um, just to, justto get your video scene, so, and
then I feel like we talkedabout a lot.
Anime is not as bad.
Um, definitely definitely notas bad, especially in the

(10:23):
podcast.

Mark Trobough (10:23):
It was like a decade ago, a decade ago for
sure.

Brandon Hurles (10:26):
Yeah, there was the big guys and we both watched
them and stuff like that, andthey're still around, but I feel
like what?

Mark Trobough (10:34):
they've done is shifted and stuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (10:36):
Yeah, for sure, and it's definitely different
with.
It's interesting to see thesort of comparison with viewers
and content wise and what'salready out there with gaming
versus like anime and stuff likethat.
And then we're about to launch,relaunch the the culture junkie
stuff, which I think isprobably going to do very well,

(10:58):
because that is the least boxedin podcast that we could
possibly do.
It's just all pop culture.
We do whatever the heck we want.
We have no limits.
And then we did say we're goingto do go through all the
Godzilla movies, so maybe likeevery third episode or every
every other episode, whatever ittakes to get through all the
movies and stuff like that.
We're going to, we're going todo that.

(11:21):
So that's one of the big plans.
We're going to do that.
So that's one of the big plans.
We're going to start that thismonth.
We just got to figure out whatday we're going to get those
recorded and obviously, beforehand, we got to watch the first
two Godzilla movies I've seen.
I've seen Godzilla and Godzillaraids again a dozen times, but
I want to rewatch them just torefresh my memory and maybe
catch some things I might'vemissed, cause that first

(11:42):
Godzilla movie is amazing.
There's there's so many detailsthat people miss that movie
that you know for the time isjust crazy.
But you know, look forward tothe, the culture junkies, coming
back here soon.
So we do have that plan, but Iguess we'll go ahead and get
started.

Mark Trobough (11:57):
Yeah, as well as this quick little shout out,
we're a what's it?
Seven subscribers away from 150on the junction network.
So if you have not subscribedyet, we would appreciate it.
Go over there, check it out,check out the contents, give us
a subscribe.
That's where I can speak thatlike stuttering all over myself.

Brandon Hurles (12:13):
We're only six away.

Mark Trobough (12:15):
There's stuff to watch, stuff, stuff that's
consistently coming out.
That's more than just thepodcast, yeah.

Brandon Hurles (12:20):
We're six away from 3,600 on a game junction as
well.

Mark Trobough (12:26):
Always, always got to shout that out.
So yeah for sure yeah, we canget.
Get into the meat of the actualpodcast.
Yeah, let's go.
Uh, cause we.
What's that?
We had some some Godzilla newsthat dropped.
All right, p for for Pluto TV.
We got some Nintendo rumorsthat dropped.
Uh, rip for Pluto TV.

(12:46):
We got some Nintendo rumorsthat dropped.
We haven't watched it yet, butthere's a new season of Squid
Games as well as their.
Oh, there was something else Iwas trying to think of.
I can't remember the other bigone, but yeah, let's just get
into it.
We'll run into it eventually.
Oh, make sure I bring that upproperly.
So what's it?

(13:06):
Tango Gameworks came out andsaid what's it?
Rebirth is getting saved byKrafton, if I don't have that
misinterpreted.

Brandon Hurles (13:15):
Yeah, that's good news, man, because we were
talking about that.
I was like really bummed out tothat studio, closed down stuff,
because I that game is reallygood.
They put out the.
Was it Bomb Rush Cyberpunk?
I think they did, or was it theother one that was supposed to
be like Chess Set Radio?

Mark Trobough (13:35):
I thought it was Hi-Fi Rush.
Yeah, hi-fi Rush, that's whatit is.

Brandon Hurles (13:37):
Sorry, hi-fi Rush.

Mark Trobough (13:38):
Yeah, so apparently they were.
Tango Gameworks is a Japanesestudio.
They were bought by the Koreanpublisher Krafton.

Brandon Hurles (13:47):
Yeah, which is good.
I mean that means that they cancontinue working on Hi-Fi Rush
2, which was already indevelopment.
It is a phenomenal game,especially if you're a fan of
the Dreamcast era of Jet SetRadio Definitely a spiritual
successor to that and a reallygood game.
Bomb Rush Cyberpunk is reallygood too, so don't sleep on that

(14:09):
one as well.
High Fire Rush that's cool.
That means they can continuethat development of the game.
Overall, it did well.
It was perceived well.
I just don't know if it had thesales there for it.
You know what I mean.
Like, yeah, I don't know, Idon't know the whole behind the

(14:30):
scenes thing with it, but it didwell.
Everybody I you know had talkedto loved it.
Even journalists liked it, likeit, you know, got pretty good,
pretty good scores across theboard.
People seem to enjoy it.
And then it just got scrapped.
And you know it was even in theGame of the—I don't know it was
in the Game Awards conversation, not Game of the Year

(14:52):
conversation, I don't think, butit was—I think it won even an
award.
So yeah, that's good news.
I mean, for once we don't seethat very often.
For once we got some good news.

Mark Trobough (15:06):
Yeah, and I guess this studio is probably best
known for both PUBG and forSubnautica.
It's probably their two mostwell-known games that they
published.
Subnautica is a pretty chillgame.
I like that one.
Yeah, it is.
Was it Subnautica and BelowZero?
Yeah, yeah, it's a chill game.

Brandon Hurles (15:23):
They've worked on a series of other games.

Mark Trobough (15:24):
Those are just the ones that really seem to
jump out as the big titles, atleast here in the West that I
know of.
Right, yeah, unless you'resuper into Golf, king World Tour
on mobile.

Brandon Hurles (15:36):
Absolutely love that game.
I don't know, maybe you arePlay it every single day of my
life.

Mark Trobough (15:43):
Yeah right, but it's good to see something
positive coming out to start thenew year, at the very least.

Brandon Hurles (15:50):
Yeah, for sure.
Sorry, I'm still trying to geta few things.

Mark Trobough (15:54):
No, you're good.
They also worked on I think yousaid they worked on Ghostwire
as well as sequel to the EvilWithin.
Yeah, they've done good work.

Brandon Hurles (16:06):
They've done a lot of stuff.

Mark Trobough (16:07):
They've been acquired by a studio that has
money.

Brandon Hurles (16:10):
For sure.
That's definitely good news.
I do hope that Hi-Fi Rush 2comes to fruition.
That was a huge bummer whenthat happened.
It was out of nowhere.
That game did well, wasperceived well, people really
enjoyed it, and then it wasclosed down, yeah.

Mark Trobough (16:27):
So does that mean you're going to stream that
game now?
High Fire Rush 2,.
If they do it, either one, yeah, I'll stream it For sure.
No, I'm not trying to back youinto a corner.

Brandon Hurles (16:40):
You're always backing me into a corner.
What you're, baby, now, it's amovie reference man.
You're too young.

Mark Trobough (16:50):
Too young.
I'm like a month older than you.
You don't get the referenceDirty.

Brandon Hurles (16:53):
Dancing Never seen that movie.
Nobody backs baby into a corner.
I didn't like the movie.
It's a classic.
Come on now.
It's a classic.

Mark Trobough (17:04):
Come on now it's debatable.
Come on, it's no.
It's no.
I don't like Dirty Dancing.
We were just talking about that.
It's no, joe Dirt.
I hate Joe Dirt.
Yeah, we can't be friends now.

Brandon Hurles (17:21):
I don't think that David Spade Is funny at all
.
I've never found him funny, oldDavid.

Mark Trobough (17:25):
Spade is funny at all.
I've never found David Spade isfunny.
When you like some of the AdamSandler stuff but it's like the
old Adam Sandler stuff, hisearly stuff, old Adam Sandler
stuff is great, but I neverthought David Spade himself was
very funny.
See, cause you had like whatwater boy oh there's so many
Happy Gilmore Big.

(17:48):
Daddy.
Oh no, it's not.
It's David Spade and, I think,john Candy.
What movie were they intogether?
I love John Candy it's more of ameme, where it's like they're
trying to explain what happenswith the trucks on the table and
one's on fire and it's a wholemess, if you know what I'm
talking about.

Brandon Hurles (18:05):
I know what you'm talking about.
I know what you're talkingabout.

Mark Trobough (18:07):
I can't think of the movie Tommy boy.
Oh yeah, Tommy bud.
Yeah, I remember in high schoolI think we used to have like a
math teacher that was alwaysputting quotes up there and I
think he was really into likeyeah, Mr Dilly.

Brandon Hurles (18:18):
Yeah, um.
So Chris Farley was my favoriteactor for years and years and
years.
I always thought he was super,super funny.
He was, I mean, absolute geniusof of comedy.
The guy was just so unfortunate, uh, how things went, but man
he was.
You know people that peoplelike that that are, um, what do

(18:39):
they call them?
Tortured artists?

Mark Trobough (18:41):
Uh, he, I think it's it was.
It was both what Chris Farleyand John Candy were, both in
that same situation.

Brandon Hurles (18:45):
Yeah, john Candy .
No, he went on drugs and stuff.

Mark Trobough (18:50):
No, but he passed away pretty early in life
though.

Brandon Hurles (18:52):
Yeah, but he was really obese.
He was even bigger than I meanhe probably had.

Mark Trobough (18:56):
I mean they still both passed away at the peak of
their John Candy was old man.

Brandon Hurles (19:02):
Chris Farley was only in his 30s when he passed.
I don't think he was that old.

Mark Trobough (19:07):
Yeah, I'm pretty sure John Candy was older no,
I'm sorry, john Candy is not whoI'm thinking of.
I'm thinking of somebody else.

Brandon Hurles (19:17):
John Candy was 43 when he passed it's still
pretty young it is now he's notthat old.

Mark Trobough (19:24):
He's not that old .

Brandon Hurles (19:26):
It's not that old, but he looked older than he
was, though, for sure.

Mark Trobough (19:29):
I mean because he wasn't healthy.
It was.
John.
Candy who I was thinking of.
He passed pretty early.
43 is pretty early.

Brandon Hurles (19:37):
I'm looking to see, because I don't even
remember John Candy.
Yeah, John Candy wasn't inTommy Boy.

Mark Trobough (19:46):
You're thinking of.

Brandon Hurles (19:47):
Chris Farley.

Mark Trobough (19:49):
I meant both of them.

Brandon Hurles (19:51):
They're both.
Chris Farley was a genius man.
He was hilarious.
He was my favorite actor for avery long time.
I love so much stuff that hedid the SNL skits and all that
stuff.
He was awesome man.
That was a big bummer when hepassed A lot of classics with

(20:14):
him.
John Candy's got a lot ofclassics too Planes, trains and
Automobiles and whatever thatChristmas movie is.
I can't remember what theChristmas movie is, but it's
hilarious.

Mark Trobough (20:27):
It was in what Uncle Buck.

Brandon Hurles (20:30):
Yeah, that's the one.

Mark Trobough (20:31):
Uncle Buck, yeah, baseballs, you have the great
outdoors.

Brandon Hurles (20:35):
Uncle Buck's, probably his best movie, I would
say.

Mark Trobough (20:39):
Yeah, I think I would agree with that.
I was trying to see if therewas anything else that I was
missing.

Brandon Hurles (20:42):
Hey, what's up?
Extreme Games.
Thanks for coming in.
Got Johnny Garboil over on theFacebook.
So, hey guys, what's up?
Mr Coffee, what's up?
Best advice if you have toomany ideas, just write them down
, throw them up in the air andgrab one and follow through with
it.
I mean it's not bad advice.
That's my problem.

Mark Trobough (21:05):
Too many, too many ideas, and then you know
brain is a hundred miles aminute.
Yeah, but don't forget, johncandy was also in stripes, and
stripes is really good really,really good.

Brandon Hurles (21:14):
What's the main actor's name in stripes?
Oh, it's bill murray billmurray.
Yeah, that's another good onetoo.
Man, I love Bill Murray.
He's funny.
He just you ever see the videosand stuff where he just shows
up places just completelyunannounced, and people will be
taking pictures of Bill Murrayat a bar or go to a small little

(21:39):
local band show.

Mark Trobough (21:41):
Is it like a peak popularity of just showing up
right in places?
Yeah, one of my favorite, thedude's loaded.

Brandon Hurles (21:48):
Yeah, he's crazy .
One of my favorite things ofBill Murray is in Zombieland.
Yeah, that was super funny.

Mark Trobough (21:58):
He's just like dressing up acting like a zombie
, and that's kind of what endsup getting him shot.

Brandon Hurles (22:02):
Yeah, oh man Good stuff for sure.

Mark Trobough (22:07):
Actually, I don't know.
I think one of his best moviesmight be Caddyshack.
Yeah, caddyshack's really goodtoo.
Such an iconic movie, Veryiconic.

Brandon Hurles (22:14):
I mean Groundhog Day too.
I don't like his backstory inthat movie Groundhog yeah, those
are like two movies really good.
In that, too, there's so manyman with this.
Yeah, hollywood is just not thesame as it was man like there's
so many classics, creative.

Mark Trobough (22:29):
No, nobody takes any risks anymore.

Brandon Hurles (22:30):
They don't and a lot of those movies did take
risks like I mean likegroundhog's day, like the, the
whole premise it's like silly.
It's got a silly premise andstuff, but it works like.
And comedy films aren't reallya thing anymore either.
We don't get comedies like weused to.

Mark Trobough (22:49):
The problem is to have good comedy you need
really smart writers to know howto write it, because comedy
it's either really good or it'sreally bad.
You're either getting aCaddyshack or you're getting a
Freddy Got Fingered.
There's no in between.

Brandon Hurles (23:03):
Yeah, we just don't get those type of movies
anymore.
We don't Period, because peoplearen't taking the risks that
they used to at the box office.

Mark Trobough (23:11):
Because it's all about.
Well, this has proven it works.
Let's just do that a thousandtimes.

Brandon Hurles (23:16):
The problem is eventually you start getting the
barbie movie.

Mark Trobough (23:18):
People get bored with it.

Brandon Hurles (23:20):
Yeah, stuff like that.
Safe bets I don't like safebets.

Mark Trobough (23:24):
The problem with safe bets is eventually it
starts losing you money becausethe audience gets bored with it.
I think that's the problem withmodern Hollywood is it's just
the same thing over and over andover again.
It's just so monotonous.
Take a risk.

Brandon Hurles (23:37):
I mean, what's the last really good movie that
you watched, that's, you know,like a newer movie.
What's the last?

Mark Trobough (23:45):
Because that is really hard to think.

Brandon Hurles (23:48):
actually Last really good movie I don't either
, I don't either, but probablyfor me, I don't know I would
have to say maybe Oppenheimer orDeadpool and Wolverine, which

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was like kind of a.
I mean, deadpool and Wolverinewas good, but it's a popcorn
flick.
It's a popcorn flick, but it'sbetter among many of the Marvel
crap that we've been getting.
So, like I guess, like I said,I don't watch a lot of stuff.
Like, the next thing I plan onwatching is a Sonic 3 movie
which I'm hearing good thingsabout, but I guess, honestly,

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legitimately, I thought theSuper Mario Bros movie was
really good.

Mark Trobough (24:34):
I thought it was really, really good, probably
the best in the last decade thatI've seen.

Brandon Hurles (24:37):
To be fair, it was a really good, so much so I
own two freaking copies of itand I've seen the movie like
seven, eight times.

Mark Trobough (24:44):
I'll take this.
It wasn't the biggest fan of alot of the CG, but the movie it
came out in like what?
20s, I think, maybe around 2019.
It was the Midway movie.
That was a really good movie.
If you're into that historicalflick, what's it called?
Just because it's called Midway, look it up.
It centers around the Battle ofMidway.
If you know anything, about thehistory.

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It was decent.
Obviously Didn't have a lot ofmoney, too much CG for my liking
.
Obviously Not 42% on RottenTomatoes.
It told the history really well, which matters to me when I'm
watching a history movie.

Brandon Hurles (25:18):
Let me ask you a question.
Have you heard about that movie?
Aswin Gold did a reaction.
He actually defended the movietoo.
Um, I have to look at what it'scalled to netflix exclusive
movie and it's about a all-blackbattalion in world war ii that
delivers mail.

Mark Trobough (25:39):
It's all about the mail delivery how do you
make a movie out of that?
Exactly?
That's my point, withoutmanipulating.
The problem with history isthere's a lot of good stories,
but sometimes you have toactually find something that's
entertaining.
The problem is you see that andyou're like.
You just look at it and you'relike it's called the Six Triple.

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Something that was completelyhad no significance on history
at all, had no impact on it.
It's called the Six Triple Eightand I was like Not that it
wasn't essential, but look atthis, I'm like it could be a
good movie, but it's all aboutmale though.

Brandon Hurles (26:17):
No, there's nothing interesting about that.

Mark Trobough (26:19):
The topic itself isn't compelling for a good
history movie.

Brandon Hurles (26:23):
The thing about that movie is a lot of people
were like oh, dei DEI, well,aspen Gold brought up some
pretty good points.

Mark Trobough (26:29):
Just looking at it to be fair, it was real, it
was track record.

Brandon Hurles (26:33):
It screeches that from the get-go it
screeches that, but in itsdefense that was a real
historical event.
I mean, there was an all-femaleblack battalion that was all
for male delivery.

Mark Trobough (26:46):
Yeah, I'm not criticizing that, I'm just
looking at it.

Brandon Hurles (26:47):
But people are immediately like DEI DEI because
they're so used to it.
Now you know what.

Mark Trobough (26:51):
I mean Well, because Hollywood's conditioned
you to it.
It could be a really good movie.

Brandon Hurles (26:55):
But regardless, I have zero interest in watching
that about male delivery.

Mark Trobough (27:00):
My criticism is there's far more compelling
history that is either had animpact or it's just far more
interesting as a topic.
If you're looking at historymovies or military history and
stuff like that, yeah, Iguarantee you know just as
insignificant, but the Battle ofEater Castle far more
interesting topic, because Iguarantee you don't even know

(27:22):
what that is.

Brandon Hurles (27:27):
I have no idea.
Sorry, I was trying to fix.
Uh, yeah, brandon's is justfine.
No, you're good it's.
Uh, I missed a bunch ofcomments for some reason.
I was just checking here.
Uh, johnny over on Facebooksaid I seen the movie Sonic 3.
I promise no spoilers.
It's great Thrifter.

(27:48):
Charlie Brown says, leftFacebook to join y'all here on
YouTube.
I love the username.

Mark Trobough (27:54):
Thanks guys for coming out.
I just bring that one upbecause the plot is interesting
and compelling, because it takesplace after the fall of Berlin.

Brandon Hurles (28:07):
Let me ask you a question Is it as interesting
as the PS5 remote?

Mark Trobough (28:13):
I think it's far more interesting personally, if
you ask me, Okay, but I reallylove history and military
history.
But the basis and I'm not goingto dwell on this too long the
basis of it essentially isyou've got American troops,
German soldiers and a SS officerdefending a castle full of
French POWs from hardline SS.

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That's the premise of thatbattle that lasts about, you
know, about 24, 36 hours,something like that.

Brandon Hurles (28:43):
I like military stuff too, but I feel like this
is obviously going way backbecause it's old.
It probably came out in 2006 orsomething, but still, one of my
favorite things besides SavingPrivate Ryan, which is a great
movie, was Band of Brothers.
I thought that was an awesomeseries.

Mark Trobough (29:00):
Because it had a lot of love, passion and it told
the story really well, how it'sshot it like it holds up today
really well written.
Yeah, I think it's better thana lot of stuff that comes out
today, I mean I can't think itdoes the same thing right.
That uh uh, same prior writingand even though same prior brian
is a fictitious story, it it'sreally well done, historical, uh

(29:21):
like a period piece essentially, essentially Taking place
around a real thing.
The actual story's not whenBandit Brother.
While it simplifies a lot ofstuff that actually happened, it
properly tells a really goodand interesting story, an
accurate story of what actuallyhappened.

Brandon Hurles (29:36):
Yeah, that's cool man.
I can't tell you the lastmilitary thing I watched that I
really loved.
I can't think of anything offthe top of my head.

Mark Trobough (29:44):
I'm also really critical about them because it's
like a hobby topic that Ireally like.
I mean let me ask you.

Brandon Hurles (29:51):
this Is Girls in Pans.
Accurate Like is that you know?

Mark Trobough (30:01):
Yes, but mostly no, if that makes sense.
There's a lot of accuratereferences.
The tank designs themselves arereal and characters themselves
will reference certain things.
But the actual how the battlestake place and the types of

(30:24):
shells that certain tanks wouldbounce or take a hit, wholesale
inaccurate.
But it's just a fun story.
But even there's even timeswhere they reference it, where
they're like yeah, this tankshould drastically, you know, uh
, like this tank has like a maxspeed like 15, this one has like
max speed like 40, like it, itone tank should now drive the
other.
Right, they do because, well,it's just that doesn't matter.
But they'll reference it likeyeah, we know this is not
accurate, but it's, it's cool.
So who cares?
It's, it's a, it's just thatdoesn't matter.

(30:44):
But they'll reference it likeyeah, we know this is not
accurate, but it's cool, so whocares?
It's a show that was written bypeople that love history but
also need to make a compellingand fun interesting story at the
same time, or at the very leastthe action is interesting.
The overall plot is kind ofsimple, but that's what you get
from, essentially like a sportstype show.

Brandon Hurles (31:04):
Palmer.
Froggy Guy says don't like.
The illitary Pearl Harborturned to a chick flick.

Mark Trobough (31:14):
Oh yeah, if you want a proper story that deals
with that, you have essentiallya midway that came out in the
late 2010s and you've got Toro,toro, toro.
Realistically, what's it called?
I mean tour, tour, tour.
It came out in like the sixties.
It's a really old, reallyhistorically accurate, but it
can be boring.
I wonder how accurate thehistory it actually is.
But I love military history.

(31:37):
I love military movies, I lovehistory in general, but some
people absolutely.

Brandon Hurles (31:41):
I like History too.
You gonna watch Gladiator too.

Mark Trobough (31:44):
I know, because I don't want to ruin the first
movie for me.
I haven't heard the bestreviews on it.

Brandon Hurles (31:52):
I haven't heard anything.
I had to shout out somethingfunny real quick.
It's the great thrifter.
Charlie Brown said in the chatyou know me, brandon.
I said do I?
He sent me a message onFacebook.
I knew it was.
He's like yep, you do.
I thought that was pretty funny.

Mark Trobough (32:14):
Yeah, I mean it's sitting at a 71 from the
critics, an 82 from the audience.
From what I've seen it screamsmore of a popcorn flick, but
it's far less accurate.
Even how inaccurate the firstmovie really was to the history,
it was much more better.
The first Gladiator was abetter period piece than this
one is, from what I understand,or from what I've seen talking

(32:34):
about it.
But that's just me just havingan aversion to anything that
Hollywood puts out.
Yeah, I mean fair enough.
I don't trust them.

Brandon Hurles (32:42):
I mean, I don't trust them.
I don't either.
I've lost all faith, you know.

Mark Trobough (32:48):
I've watched, like, I rewatched, the original
Lord of the Rings trilogy andyou're just like Hollywood could
never make something that livesup to that today.
If they remade those moviesthey would pale in comparison to
the original trilogy.
Like not only those really goodmovies.
It's probably the best way,best adaptation that you could
ever do Ever.

(33:08):
Yeah.

Brandon Hurles (33:12):
Did you like?
What was it called?
Let me see if I can look it upreal quick, really good.
I watched this six hour longWorld War 2 documentary.
I really get into it too.
I love history as well.
It was like 6 hours long.
I had to watch it in like 4 or5 different settings it's a

(33:36):
documentary.
Yeah, it's a documentary, Ithink it's just called cause I
had it on DVD.
I think it's just called.
World War 2.
Yeah, there's a lot of them.
The movie I was thinking of isoh wait, that's not it.
Oh, fury, have you seen that?

Mark Trobough (33:54):
Oh yeah, it's probably one of the One of the
better World War II tank moviesout there.
There's not a lot of them, butI've seen.

Brandon Hurles (34:03):
Another really good one Inglourious Bastards.
That's a really good movie too.

Mark Trobough (34:07):
It's a good comedy.
It's a really good movie,because I've heard I can't
remember I think I might bemistaken what's it.
Iron Fury might be consideredone of the better tank movies of
all times, but I'm pretty surethat's a Russian movie.
I don't think I've seen thatone.

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It deals with the, with the,with the Eastern front of the
war.

Brandon Hurles (34:32):
Oh yeah, another good one to American sniper,
which is obviously based on truestory.
I really liked that movie aswell.

Mark Trobough (34:39):
Um, yeah, um there's a lot of good.
The problem, if you look atlike military movies
specifically, there's a lot ofgood ones from the 50s, 60s and
70s, a lot of good ones fromthat time period.

Brandon Hurles (34:54):
I mean, bro, I like mash, like I think it's a
comedy, but like also with someserious tones.
Did you ever get into that, orwas it too old for you?

Mark Trobough (35:07):
I watched it growing up.
I never got into it, but Iwould watch it if it was on TV.

Brandon Hurles (35:11):
My grandpa loved it, so we watched it.

Mark Trobough (35:13):
But I mean, just because I brought it up, because
you got like what A Bridge TooFar.
Kelly's Heroes, patton Bridgeon the River Kwai, and those are
like really old movies.

Brandon Hurles (35:23):
Okay, so to transition this to video games,
what do you think are the best?

Mark Trobough (35:30):
Way Okay.
So to transition this to videogames, what do you think are the
best Way off on a chance rightthere?

Brandon Hurles (35:32):
No, I mean yeah, there's nothing to do with
anything, but what do you thinkare the best?
Video game war, you know,military games what do you think
are the best?
Because I mean you've got likeMedal of Honor, which I would
say 1, 2, and 3 are really good.

Mark Trobough (35:52):
If you want to call it more arcade-y style,
it's the old Medal of Honorgames from the early 2000s, like
around what the 2001 to like2008,.
Right before COD took overthose were some really good
games.

Brandon Hurles (36:02):
Yeah, medal of Honor was amazing and there's a
lot of Metal of Honor games.
I mean Airborne, you've gotwhatever.
The second one was called.
There's one that you haveprobably never played, and the
only reason I played it isbecause it was a PlayStation
Plus game a long time ago.
It's called Hell let's Looseand it's like too accurate of a

(36:27):
military game, if that makessense, like it's good, and it's
like too accurate of a militarygame, if that makes sense, like
it's good, but it's too accurate.
What is it called?
Again, it's called Hell let'sLoose, it's it.
I don't know how else toexplain it other than like it's
like as accurate of a militarygame I've ever played.
Like it's almost too accurate.

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Essentially, I've never played.
It's almost too accurate.
Essentially, I've never playedthat.

Mark Trobough (36:50):
But when I think of Medal of Honor, there's three
games that I played.
It was Allied Assault, europeanAssault and then the Rising Sun
.
Those were the three Medal ofHonor games that I played
growing up.

Brandon Hurles (37:00):
Did you ever play?
I had this growing up.
Let me see what it's called.
Did you ever play the actual USArmy video game?
Did you ever play the actual USArmy video game?
Did you ever play that?
I had it.
It was terrible, but I canimagine.
Yeah, it was really bad.
At the end of the game, theyessentially try to recruit you.
Like no joke, you can sign upto also serve your country.

(37:26):
It's called America's ArmyProving Gr.
Also serve your country.
It's called America's ArmyProving Grounds.
That's what it's called.

Mark Trobough (37:33):
To be fair, that's more of advertising than
anything else.
It's straight up advertising.
There are some good games outthere.
If you're more into the sim,you've got, obviously, armor 3,
which is a really big sim game.
You've got World of Tanks,what's it World of Tanks?
What's it World?
Of One of those other games.
They're free-to-play gamesWorld of Tanks and I think it's

(37:54):
War Thunder the two free-to-playgames and stuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (37:57):
Did you ever get into either Ace Combat or
what's the other big one?
I'm trying to think of theBattlefield games.
You ever get into Battlefield1942.

Mark Trobough (38:09):
The Battlefield I played.
What's it?
Ace Combat 7 is the most recentone that came out, I believe
yeah.

Brandon Hurles (38:16):
I played it.

Mark Trobough (38:16):
I never got super into it, but I have played it
as well as you could argue.
What's it?
Uh, I mean, age of Empires isnot really the same game, but
like the Total War games, Iplayed Total War, shogun and
some of those games.
Those are pretty good games.
Yeah, if you want more TotalWar, shogun is the Japanese one,
but you also have just theregular Total War which deals

(38:37):
with Rome and some of those morepre-medieval battles.
I guess Does that make sense.

Brandon Hurles (38:44):
Yeah, no, for sure, I was trying to pull.
There was another weirdmilitary game that I had back in
the day, I think on PS1.

Mark Trobough (38:53):
I don't remember what the heck it was called oh,
um, never had PS1, so I probablyhaven't played it.

Brandon Hurles (39:00):
Did you ever play any of the army men games?

Mark Trobough (39:03):
because it was on 64 like the ones based off the
little toys.
They were really fun.
Yeah, I played those on 64.

Brandon Hurles (39:12):
Yeah, there's like five of them.

Mark Trobough (39:15):
Yeah, because I played Star.
I remember playing Star, justHeroes, that's the one.
That was the one I was on 64.

Brandon Hurles (39:22):
These are the games I was thinking of.
So there's a bunch of these.
It's a long-running seriesthat's still going on now.
Spec Ops Did you ever play anyof the Spec Ops games so fun, I
mean like Spec Ops?
The Line is in my top 5 videogames of all time yeah.

Mark Trobough (39:37):
I know people that have.

Game Junction (39:38):
I haven't personally though, but I know a
lot of people that everybody Italk to that has is raped about
it.

Brandon Hurles (39:43):
Yeah, Spec Ops the Line especially, but I
played.
I played it all the way back tothe PS1 because there was a
couple Spec Ops games.
But Spec Ops Align my God, thatgame still holds up.
I replayed it.

Mark Trobough (39:53):
I think in 2022, and it is so good that has the
infamous that white phosphorusscene in it, doesn't it?
Yeah, I remember hearing aboutthat back in the day.

Brandon Hurles (40:10):
I don't know why it was drama.
It's like an emirated game.
Yeah, we rented that.
So we rented that game fromBlockbuster.
Beat it the same day.

Mark Trobough (40:14):
It was a pretty short story but it was so good.
Usually people do that with alot of older games.
You could beat them and itwasn't even an old game, though.

Brandon Hurles (40:18):
It was a 360 game, so it was weird that it
was only seven hours long.

Mark Trobough (40:31):
But it was a really good seven hours, like,
even like uh, the game we playedback in the fall, what is it?
Um, oh, it's the, uh, oh, I'mblank on the name a game that we
played.
Yeah, we played it on stream.
It was one of the first gameswe started streaming together.
I don't remember uh, gears ofwar, sorry oh yeah I don't know
why I blanked on the the game.
That's a game you couldarguably beat in like 8 to 12
hours.
You could beat that in onesitting.

Brandon Hurles (40:52):
Did we beat it in 2 or 3?

Mark Trobough (40:54):
streams.
I think we beat it in 3.
I think we beat it in 3 streams.
Yeah, realistically.

Brandon Hurles (40:59):
If you know what you're doing, we could have
beat it in 2.

Mark Trobough (41:05):
If you know what you're doing and you're not
delete down, you're just tryingto get through the game.
Yeah, you could very easilybeat that in one sitting.

Brandon Hurles (41:13):
I forgot how short that game was.
I forgot it was that short.
I think Gears 2 issignificantly longer, if I
remember correctly, because it'slike a 20-hour game or so, mr
Coffee said depends on how hardyou set it.

(41:33):
Not sure what that one's on.
Oh, uh, it's great threat.
There's brought up akariwarriors, absolute classic.
Um, but I'm old.
Uh, operation wolf, anothergood one.
Um, uh, red october, best movie.
Uh, red october is really good.
Oh, world war ii and collar,that's what it's called.
That's the one I was talkingabout.

Mark Trobough (41:51):
It's like a six Red October best movie Red
October is really good.
World War II and Collar that'swhat it's called.
That's the one I was talkingabout.

Brandon Hurles (41:55):
It's like a six-hour documentary.
I think it's like multipleparts, though yeah, I had the
whole DVD set for it and watchedthe whole thing.
I get really interested in thatstuff, so I really like history
.

Mark Trobough (42:03):
There's another one I had.
I don't know which one it was,but I had one of the Brothers in
Arms games on DS.

Brandon Hurles (42:10):
Oh yeah, Brothers in Arms.
That was the only one I playedOn DS, so that DS one was.
What was that called?
Because I had it too.

Mark Trobough (42:18):
I think it was just Brothers in Arms, brothers
in Arms DS.
I'm pretty sure that's what itis.

Brandon Hurles (42:23):
It very well might be, I can't remember.
I had it as well.
Yeah, it's just called Brothersin Arms DS.
I actually thought that was agood game.
I don't know if you liked it.
I thought it was good.

Mark Trobough (42:34):
I never beat it.

Brandon Hurles (42:36):
I even played the Call of Duty games on the DS
and I thought they were goodtoo.
I mean, they were still FPSgames and the Wii games really
good as well.

Mark Trobough (42:50):
You ever play Hell's Highway then for Brothers
in Arms?
Yeah, I know I haven't.
I've only ever played the DSone.
Yeah, I have it, yeah.

Brandon Hurles (42:55):
I have it.
Yeah, it's good stuff.
I like military games.
I got burnt out for a very longtime because of Call of Duty,
especially the World War IIstuff, because there's so many
World War II video games.
It's kind of ridiculous.
I stuff because there's so manyWorld War 2 video games.
It's kind of ridiculous.

Mark Trobough (43:08):
I mean, you had that with Medal of Honor, but
Medal of Honor it was like whatcouch co-op multiplayer and you
really played it for the singleplayer and each game was, at
least the very least, trying totell a different story.
But after a while you're likethere's only so much you can do
with this.
That's how Spec.

Brandon Hurles (43:21):
Ops was on the PS1 because there was, I think,
three spec ops games on the PSone.
It was like they were allbasically the same game, like
reskinned.

Mark Trobough (43:31):
Yeah, I think that the other problem with a
lot of those war two games isthey're all in Europe, like
that's the problem, like hardlyany of those games go.
Pacific, yeah, which to be fairwas, was, you know, far more
brutal, which I could see whypeople want to shy away from it,
but like there's a lot ofpotential that they just kind of
ignored with that yeah, they,yeah, for sure, for sure but all

(43:53):
right, yeah, I guess one game.
Why not?
You know, it's a medieval game.
I want to play as gang as thecon come on I like medieval
games a lot too.

Brandon Hurles (44:03):
Yeah, all right, I guess we should go ahead and
dive into the news.
What do we got going on?

Mark Trobough (44:08):
Yeah, the second thing that we had on this list.
Like you know what, 45 minutesinto the podcast.
Are we 45?
Oh, crap.
We're close to it 40, 45,something like that.
The Fantastic Four is makingits way to Marvel's Rivals.
Maybe this will be a good formof the what's the Fantastic?
Four, what's it?
Fantastic, for it's in front ofmy face and.

(44:30):
I was like I don't know what itsays yeah, no, I think it's
great.

Brandon Hurles (44:31):
I'll be honest with you.
We were talking about thisoff-stream and we crapped on
that game a lot on the podcastbefore it came out.
We crapped on it a lot.
This is going to be anotherfailure.
Why are they doing this?

Mark Trobough (44:46):
I mean to be fair the industry has conditioned
you to just expect failure.
They have.

Brandon Hurles (44:50):
And I'm trying to now not do that because, not,
I've got to stop doing that,because what it what it's become
is, there's been so much that'shappened, especially 2024, in
the video game sphere, the moviesphere, whatever where I'm just
instantly I just crap on stuffBecause I'm like, why are they

(45:11):
doing this?
But I like Marvel Rivals, Ithink it's really fun, yeah.

Mark Trobough (45:17):
It makes sense.
It was made by a Chinesedeveloper.

Brandon Hurles (45:20):
I probably helped Arena shooters.
But there's something about itwhere I really enjoy it.
I actually legitimately like itand I know a lot of people
playing it Personally and thenobviously people that I follow
and stuff like that.
A lot of people are playing it.
And then it got suggestedyesterday.
Hey, make that the communitygame.

(45:40):
Pretty much anybody can accessit.
If you got either PlayStation,pc, xbox, you can play it free
to play.
So I mean that's a great idea.
We streamed it twice and it wasa lot of fun.
We had a lot of fun both times.

Mark Trobough (45:57):
I'll say this To be fair, especially with the
game industry 2024 was a badyear for AAA.
I think Ubisoft specifically,but there's a lot of bad AAA
games that came out.

Brandon Hurles (46:06):
Oh, there's a lot.

Mark Trobough (46:06):
Yeah, I mean, there's a ton the industry's
earned the crap that they getwhich is a lot of speculation
and you have to prove otherwisewhy I should buy your game.

Brandon Hurles (46:16):
Yeah, and I agree that you do need to prove,
but I think that what I need todo is not be so judgmental
before, because until that,thing is out.

Mark Trobough (46:26):
That's what the fun is in the podcast.
No before.

Brandon Hurles (46:28):
Because until that thing is out, that's what
the fun is in the podcast.
It is, but I don't need tocompletely crap on something
that I don't know.
We don't know anything aboutother than this is essentially
an Overwatch clone, but the.
Thing is.
It does Overwatch way betterthan Overwatch 2.
That's the problem.
It's not Overwatch.
That's the problem.
That's the thing, and Blizzardis really screwed.
I mean to be honest, they justlike kind of screwed up with

(46:50):
everything Diablo 4, freakingOverwatch 2, like they are just
making the wrong.
I mean, I mean to be fair.

Mark Trobough (46:56):
You look back at the day with Blizzard and find
so many things they've donewrong.

Brandon Hurles (47:00):
Yeah, it's stupid, it sucks, because they
used to be a really good company.
I really liked, liked them backin the day, but now it's just
like yeah, they just make a lotof stupid moves.

Mark Trobough (47:07):
Yeah, when are we getting the next Warcraft game?

Brandon Hurles (47:11):
I have no idea.
Probably got another new Worldof Warcraft expansion coming
first.

Mark Trobough (47:16):
That's their money maker.
Why do anything else?
Really, I guess yeah.
I guess, and again, what aboutSteam and stuff like that?
It's not epic, but when are wegetting Half-Life 3, like, come
on?

Brandon Hurles (47:30):
Actually funny enough.
I'll see if I can pull it up.

Mark Trobough (47:34):
Come on, gabe, let's go.
What?
Gabe?
The owner of Steam, or whateverthe actual name is?
Oh yeah.

Brandon Hurles (47:42):
Okay, so I'll go ahead and read this news story,
since you brought it up.
So Half-Life 3 speculationsurges once more following
cryptic tweets, and so the tweetwas.
Let me see if I can send it toyou, because it's a video.
Just type in Half-Life 3 andyou'll see it.

(48:03):
There's a bunch of newsarticles for it, so you can see
the video.
It'll be a little bit easier.

Mark Trobough (48:07):
It's been back in .
There's a bunch of newsarticles for it so you can see
the video.
It'll be a little bit easier.
It's been back in.

Brandon Hurles (48:11):
It's been a long time 20-year anniversary of
Half-Life 2.
Yeah, and then we did getHalf-Life Alyx, so I mean it
kind of broke up, which was avery good game people loved.
But people have been asking forHalf-Life 3 for so long.

Mark Trobough (48:23):
It's like Valve was the company I was thinking
of.
They're just content with justmaking money off Steam.

Brandon Hurles (48:30):
Yeah, pretty much.
I mean they got the Steam Deck.
It's doing very, very well.
So they're in the hardware gameand we know we got a Steam Deck
2 coming.
I mean the Steam Deck OLEDwhite sold out.
I couldn't even get into thequeue, it sold out immediately.
I couldn't even get into thequeue, it sold out immediately.
I couldn't even get in thequeue.
I tried queuing on my computer,a tablet and my phone.

(48:52):
I couldn't even get in thequeue to try to get it.
I'm kind of glad that I didn't,because I would rather just get
the Steam Deck 2 when it comesout, because we're so close to
it that I expect it next year.
I expect it this year or nextyear?

Mark Trobough (49:09):
The.
I expect it next year.
I expect it this year or nextyear, so I'm good with waiting.
The video they posted on X talkabout the most cryptic teaser
I've ever seen.

Brandon Hurles (49:14):
That's what I'm saying.

Mark Trobough (49:16):
It doesn't make any sense at all.

Brandon Hurles (49:20):
Makes no sense at all.
Another year already.

Mark Trobough (49:24):
Another year already.

Brandon Hurles (49:25):
Oh, you can hear that.
Oh, my bad, yeah, I heard that.
Sorry about that, guys, butyeah, no, very cryptic.
So I thought that was kind offunny that you brought that up
because it's been making thenews around.
So interesting stuff.
I would love to see it, butyou've never even played a
Half-Life game, right?

Mark Trobough (49:42):
I was too young to play this kind of games.
Growing up, my parents wouldn'thave let me play those games.

Brandon Hurles (49:46):
You're an adult now.

Mark Trobough (49:47):
Always get back.
They're all 20-year-old games.

Brandon Hurles (49:49):
What's wrong with that?
Oh, they're on Steam.

Mark Trobough (49:54):
Of course they're on Steam.
They're like dirt cheap.

Brandon Hurles (49:56):
That's what I'm saying, no very cryptic squeeze.
So I'd be interested to see ifwe actually if anything comes of
it.
I mean that'll break theinternet for sure.
People have been asking forthat for so long.
Holy crap, it's been a longtime.
I just want to let everybodyknow that we've got a level 1

(50:18):
snow emergency currently.
May or may not die during thepodcast.

Mark Trobough (50:24):
Oh yeah, y'all are supposed to get dumped on.

Brandon Hurles (50:26):
Yeah, we're getting dumped on now.

Mark Trobough (50:29):
I was about to say what's a level one snowmerge
?
I haven't heard that in forever.

Brandon Hurles (50:33):
Well, you guys don't have level ones and stuff
like that there.

Mark Trobough (50:36):
Nope, they don't even plow the roads half the
time.
They'll just close the roads,that's it.
We don't have snow emergencies.
You know, back in right before,the only major snow that we got
was right before Thanksgiving.
We got, like what's it?
About four inches.
We didn't even have an advisor.
That's how big you are.
They didn't plow the snow, theydidn't salt it.
You just drove on the road fora few days until it melted.

(50:58):
Naturally, they'll plow I-80.
They don't dump salt on it, butthey'll plow I-80.
That's about it.
But they'll plow I-80.
That's about it.
Anything in town?
Nah, yeah, but again, there's alot of mountain passes out here
where the moment it starts tosnow, they just shut it down,
just shut it down.
But to be fair, a lot of thosemountain passes get so much snow

(51:20):
it'd be impossible for the fivecars a day to drive on.
It's not worth the money.

Brandon Hurles (51:33):
Mr Coffee said, you aren't that far off.
We had so many shooters comeout, we just got concord and
then marvel rivals right afterit, so kind of just got a
ribbing just because of concord,which is true.
I mean, that was the problem,right.
Like you saw, concord justcompletely flopped right away.
So we just thought, yeah,marvel rivals is going to flop,
but my god, that game, theconcurrent viewers and stuff
just on Steam is crazy.
It's crazy numbers for thatgame.
Like I was looking at trendinggames on Twitch and it was

(51:53):
number two trending game onTwitch right now.
So, and I was even playing, Iplayed a match right before you
jumped on it.
Yeah right, I'm always playinga squirrel girl and I just shoot
from far away.
Fun game, man.
It's a really fun game, free toplay.
There's no reason not at leasttry it.
You know it's not for everybody, I'm not even an arena shooter
guy, but I think it's very fun.

(52:13):
I like the characters, I likethe design, the aesthetic and
the way that it plays.
It feels good.

Mark Trobough (52:19):
So yeah, I got to bring up, though aren Snow is
supposed to come Sunday night.

Brandon Hurles (52:24):
I have no idea.
I'll have to click on thisBreaking news three hours ago.
Pickwick County is now under alevel one snow emergency.
Roadways are hazardous withblowing and drifting snow.
Recent reports of cars slidingoff roadways have occurred in
the last hour in Pickwick, nonewith major injuries.
Yeah, so it's going on now.

Mark Trobough (52:44):
For us.
They'll close down the road,which means they lower a bar in
front of it and it's closed.

Brandon Hurles (52:48):
And if you go around for real they don't close
any roads here.
But, like, if it's a level, isit level two that you're legally
not allowed to drive, Right?
I thought it was level three.
It might be level three, Ican't remember.

Mark Trobough (53:04):
Out.
Here I mean technically, whenthe barrier's down.
You're not supposed to.
But if you drive there and thenget stuck, they may or may not
send search and rescue, but ifthey do, you're paying that bill
, and that's a separate amount.

Brandon Hurles (53:14):
Oh yeah, it's like paying the ambulance, I'll
drive myself.
Well, the problem is like youdrive.

Mark Trobough (53:20):
It's like 50 miles between towns and there's
no one between there.
So it's not it's.
It's impossible to keep theroads clean, so they just close
it.

Brandon Hurles (53:27):
Mr Cox says he's in PA, so expect to get snow
Sunday through Monday.
Yeah, I don't like snow justbecause it's a driving thing.
I don't have a good car and Idon't have a four-wheel drive or
anything like that.

Mark Trobough (53:41):
So that's my main thing about it.
Driving in the snow is fun,especially if you've got a
manual car.
Yeah, Mark, until you die andit'll show up on the podcast.
Then it's fun.
I'll just wreck my car to onein town.
You just drive in town, you'llbe fine, You're not going to
kill yourself in town, alright,what?
do we got next?
You put in there some.
Mr Beast hit 341 millionYouTube subscribers.

(54:03):
I saw a clip of one of his newgame shows that he did.
I don't know if you saw that ornot.
It looked kind of creepy.
He was like a.
He had that evil villain aurawhere he's just like Squid Games
but the evil masterminds won'thost.

Brandon Hurles (54:21):
I know about his Beast Games.
I don't know anything about him.
The reason I put that in there,I just thought it was a new
record for YouTube so I was likemight as well mention it.
Light week on news and stufflike that.
But I mean, that's a pretty bigdeal.
I can't remember what hissubscriber count is.
I'll have to see if it says buthe's had a lot of controversy

(54:46):
the past, like probably year,there's been all kinds of stuff
with him, so I'm kind ofsurprised he's still continuing
to grow.

Mark Trobough (54:53):
One of his guys that worked with him I think he
said Donaldson who was there'slike a lawsuit with mistreatment
, sexual harassment, yeah, yeah,yeah, unpaid, like a whole mess
of stuff that when it came outyou're like, oh, this is going
to be the end, like this isgoing to be the end.
He's going to be drowning inlawsuits and stuff like that and
he still might.

Brandon Hurles (55:12):
Who knows.
Oh hey, yeah, you're prettyclose to me there.
If you're in Orient, that'scrazy.
Yeah, I'm 20 minutes away, butyeah, anyway, it looks like 400
million 341.
I personally don't like the guy.
I don't like his content.
It's just not for me.

(55:32):
There seems to be a lot ofweird stuff surrounding his team
and him and stuff like that.
I was kind of surprised to seethat he's still growing at the
rate that he is.
I mean, like People watch him.
A lot of people don't care forthe other stuff.
You also gotta keep in mindthere's a lot of kids that are
watching.
It's more content for a youngeraudience.

Mark Trobough (55:55):
For a younger audience and it just gives a lot
of money away for free, sopeople try to get on that stuff.

Brandon Hurles (56:02):
I cannot confirm or deny that, but anyway, what
do we got next here?

Mark Trobough (56:11):
Some Call of Duty news.
You got Black Ops 6 and Warzonerelease New update for January
this month actually.

Brandon Hurles (56:17):
Yeah, this is why I brought the Squid Game
stuff up was mostly becausethat's why I was asking if you
had watched it.

Mark Trobough (56:23):
Which is not a surprise all across, because is
it Season 2 of the Korean one,or is it Season 1 of the
American one, or maybe it'sseason two of the American one,
I don't know.
I didn't know there was morethan one.

Brandon Hurles (56:33):
I thought there was another one A season.
I don't know.
I just know it's season two ofwhatever the big one during
COVID that blew up with thatlast guy.
I heard it's pretty.
I know I know a couple peoplewatching it heard it's pretty
depressing.

Mark Trobough (56:47):
Yeah, so apparently Netflix Korea said
season 3 is coming sometime in2025.
I didn't know there was aseason 2.
Interesting.

Brandon Hurles (56:55):
Yeah, I mean it makes sense to do the crossover
right with Call of Duty.
I mean sell skins makes sense.

Mark Trobough (57:01):
It's just a skin.
It makes money.
Call of Duty is a reallypopular game.
If you're just trying to do acrossover that's going to make
you money, this makes sense.
Yeah, for sure I just got towait for the Squid Game Fortnite
crossover.

Brandon Hurles (57:13):
Oh, it's going to happen.

Mark Trobough (57:15):
I think it's already happening.
Maybe it already is happening,I don't know.

Brandon Hurles (57:18):
Fortnite freaking collabs with everything
, dudes.
It's crazy.
I mean Snoop Dogg was in.

Mark Trobough (57:26):
Fortnite has the skin, m&m has the skin Like
crazy stuff.
But again, this is the sameCall of Duty that had.
Was it like Nicki Minaj in itand stuff like that In Call of
Duty?
Yeah, I swore it was.

Brandon Hurles (57:40):
God, not a fan, I don't know.
M&m did a whole concert inFortnite.
It was just crazy.

Mark Trobough (57:48):
Yeah, there was a Warzone.
Modern Warfare 2, and ModernWarfare 3, nicki Minaj, operator
bundle.
That's stupid.
He wanted a bunch of pink skins.

Brandon Hurles (57:57):
Who likes Nicki Minaj?
Come on Good question Teenagegirls.
Yeah apparently what teenagegirls are playing.
Never mind, I'm sure there'ssome.

Mark Trobough (58:11):
And I know you brought something else up, but
there's a rumor out recentlythat the Star Fox Adventures
could be getting a remake indevelopment.
Yeah, this is not.
I know we've had our opinionson this and the community's had
its opinions on this.
What do you feel about thisgame?
Because if I think Star Fox isgoing to move forward and be a
relevant IP again, this type ofgame is where it's going to have

(58:35):
to go.

Brandon Hurles (58:36):
Yeah, I feel like it's.
I feel like we can't do theformula of just being in the
spacecraft anymore, because Ijust don't think it was so and
it flopped terrible on the Wii.

Mark Trobough (58:48):
Yeah, Star Fox Zero.
Regardless of how good or badthe actual game was.
They've tried to do that andnobody's been receptive.

Brandon Hurles (58:54):
Don't get me wrong.
I love that.
I think it's fun.
I've played every Star Fox game.
Star Fox DS is my what's it.
I think it's called Star Fox.
Yes, it's my favorite Star Foxgame, but Star Fox Adventures
really good game.
I mean, I think it's a reallygood game.
Obviously it was not intendedto be a Star Fox game, but

(59:14):
regardless it was cool.
It introduced Crystal, which isa cool character.

Mark Trobough (59:20):
I feel like it's a fun game.
I think so too.
I played it at a friend's houseway back in the day.

Game Junction (59:29):
This is the route they need to go because I just
don't think the aircraft onlyStar.

Brandon Hurles (59:31):
Fox is going to sell.
Yeah, it's just not going tosell, and they need to bring in
that younger audience as well.

Mark Trobough (59:37):
They need new audiences is what they really
need to, because, let's be fair,star Fox really peaked with one
game on the 64, and that reallywas it, I don't know, it did
very well on the Super Nintendo.

Brandon Hurles (59:49):
Huh Star Fox on the Super Nintendo did very well
.
It was a big game, it was a bigdeal.

Mark Trobough (59:54):
Yeah, but let's be fair.
It peaked on the 64.
That's the game most peoplerecognize.

Brandon Hurles (59:58):
I would say yeah , I think you're probably right.
It probably did peak there, butwe still got like Do you
remember Star Fox CommandMission.

Mark Trobough (01:00:11):
On the.

Brandon Hurles (01:00:11):
DS no on the.

Mark Trobough (01:00:11):
GameCube Hold on.
I only ever know of Star FoxAdventure.
I know there were other games,like one on the DS, but this was
like the last major releasethat we got that I ever knew of
growing up, it's called Star FoxAssault on the GameCube Also
really really good game.

Brandon Hurles (01:00:28):
And then I think Star Fox completely missed out
on the GameCube Also reallyreally good game.
And then I think Star Foxcompletely missed out on the 3DS
.
No, it got Star Fox 3D right.
Let me look.

Mark Trobough (01:00:36):
Did it?
I don't know.
I mean it had the Wii U game,yeah it was Star Fox 64 3D,
Sorry.

Brandon Hurles (01:00:43):
So it just got a remaster in 3D, which, by the
way, if you haven't played thatI know you have a new 3DS XL
with 3D Actually, really good 3Dand a really good remaster of
the game.
Even if you want to turn the 3Doff For sure, just like Ocarina
of Time is officially the bestway to play that game and
there's additional content in itwhich is really cool, Isn't?

Mark Trobough (01:01:06):
Star Fox 64 on NSO or is it automated?

Brandon Hurles (01:01:09):
It is, but I mean it's the 64 version, so
you're not getting all theenhancements from it.
But yeah, it's still a goodgame regardless.
But what I was bringing up wasthe Star Fox PC port.
So Star Fox 64 got a PC port.
Obviously it's fan-made, but Iplayed it on my ultrawide

(01:01:30):
monitor.
Really cool man, reallynostalgic.
I'll read a little bit of thisreal quick from.

Mark Trobough (01:01:36):
Engadget Go ahead .
This leak came from SamusHunter 2, and the rumor was that
this game could possiblyrelease in 2025.
It could possibly be afirst-year title for the.

Brandon Hurles (01:01:49):
Switch 2.

Mark Trobough (01:01:50):
Makes sense Gotta fill out that year.

Brandon Hurles (01:01:53):
Gotta fill out that year Makes sense.

Mark Trobough (01:01:56):
But uh, whenever we get the next Direct, I guess
you'll find out.

Brandon Hurles (01:02:00):
A group of talented fans made a native PC
port of Star Fox 64, which theyare calling Starship.
Even better, it's technicallylegal.
Harbormaster is.
The team behind the projectuses a tool that converts the
original game ROM into PCexecutable code, so it doesn't
actually use any proprietaryNintendo code.
This is the same method used tocreate the native PC port of

(01:02:22):
Legend of Zelda, ocarina of Time, and that one's still available
for download.
So, yeah, you can download thisMark.
You should definitely checkthis out if you like 64.
It's gorgeous, looks reallygood.
I saw somebody playing it on a.
So I have a Galaxy.
What's it called?
Galaxy G8?
Monitor?

(01:02:43):
Hold on, let me look which ismy main monitor that I'm using
now.
It is called the Odyssey OLEDG8.
So I saw somebody playing it onthe G9, and the G9, I'm sure
you've seen pictures of it isthe huge, gigantic monitor that

(01:03:03):
curves and basically it's twomonitors in one.
You can use this like splitscreen monitor.
I got the one right before that, the oled monitor, the uh,
odyssey oled g8, but the g9 Isaw somebody playing it on it.
I was like blown away.
I I could, I could never haveroom.
It would take up my entire desk.
It's so big.
I don't you've seen thatmonitor before.

(01:03:25):
Right, it's just huge, I think.
So, yeah, the G9, yeah, it'sjust massive, but yeah, it's a
really cool PC port.
So I definitely recommendanybody watching, listening,
check it out.
It's cool stuff.

Mark Trobough (01:03:40):
Yeah, we got rumors that Atari or it's not a
rumor.
Atari essentially came out andis teasing a what they called a
re-reveal of their new handheldconsole at CES 2025 next week.

Brandon Hurles (01:03:53):
Yeah, I found this interesting because CES is
not going on yet.

Mark Trobough (01:03:59):
It's usually more of the IT computer industry,
but not necessarilygaming-focused.

Brandon Hurles (01:04:04):
Yeah, there's still a lot of gaming stuff
there, though, there's stillshow-ups and a lot of product,
but it's not like the primarything.

Mark Trobough (01:04:09):
You usually get more just general hardware stuff
and software releases therethan actual game related stuff.

Brandon Hurles (01:04:16):
But the Game Station Go comes complete with
the D-pad, face buttons,shoulder buttons.
You'd expect to go on a retrohandheld.
What makes it stand out is theinclusion of a trackball and
paddle on the left of the deviceand a keypad on the right, so
it's got essentially everythingyou need to play any of those
atari games that require thosespecific controllers.

Mark Trobough (01:04:38):
So I I know you don't care about atari or
anything, but I mean I thinkit's probably kind of
interesting as in the fact thatit still requires some level of
of adaptation to those gamecontrols to be more handheld
there's some real engineeringgoing on some of those
controllers were like the sizeof this, of this handheld.
Yeah, yeah, I this.

Brandon Hurles (01:04:56):
I'll pick this up.
I'll probably do a review onthis because this is really cool
.
It's got, like I said, it hasevery form of controller for all
the games that require that.
You know there's games thatspecifically required the
trackball games that specific,uh, you know required the keypad
that you had.
There's games that specificallyrequire the trackball games
that, specifically, you know,require the keypad that you had
to have stuff like that.
So it's got all of those builtinto one little device and I
definitely would like to checkit out.

(01:05:16):
It's just unique.
There's definitely someengineering that was involved in
this, so definitely want tocheck it out.
My arcade products are hit ormiss for me.
I've got a few I've got youcan't see it back there, but
I've got a couple of my Arcadeproducts and they're okay.

(01:05:37):
Some are hit or miss.
But definitely cool stuff, forsure.

Mark Trobough (01:05:43):
I'm sure cool once next week hits Next podcast
is going to be interesting.

Brandon Hurles (01:05:47):
A lot of stuff, yeah we're going to have a lot
of talk about it, I'm sure A lotof stuff for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:05:52):
I know you were talking about this, I know we
were talking before the podcast.
I didn't care as much.
But for the secret level,apparently, master Chief and
Doom Slayer, they were told nofrom Microsoft about those being
in the secret level series.
Yeah, I don Microsoft aboutthose being in the secret level
series.
Yeah, I don't mean they're,they're really well known IPs.
It makes sense they don't needthe advertising.

(01:06:13):
That's, that's how I thoughtabout it.
No, you, you disagree a littlebit.

Brandon Hurles (01:06:16):
Yeah, to me it's free advertising, so why not?
It doesn't matter how big yourproperty is.
Halo is not big Like it was andDoom is not.
I love Doom, one of my favoriteseries, but it's not on a
massive level where people aretalking about it like they are a

(01:06:37):
cult.
Nobody talks about Halo likethey do Call of Duty anymore.

Mark Trobough (01:06:41):
Halo is never going to be at that level.
When you get a new Halo game ora new Doom game, everyone's
talking about them.
They're really popular, butthey hit their short-term
popular games.
They're not like Call of Dutywhere they're constantly in the
cultures like they used to be.
Yeah, At least for Halo it'smultiplayer isn't the peak of

(01:07:03):
multiplayer anymore.
That peaked back on the 360.

Brandon Hurles (01:07:06):
Mr Coffee said, doom is bigger than Halo.
I would agree with that.
Actually, I think Doom hasbecome bigger than Halo.
Well, because Halo's kind of.
That's why I'm saying todisregard that out of a show
that millions of people arewatching and did very successful
is stupid to me.

Mark Trobough (01:07:22):
Well, I mean to be fair, like Halo is a very
popular IP and Microsoftnecessarily doesn't need it.

Brandon Hurles (01:07:31):
The thing about Microsoft is usually they play
well with others, so it's weirdthat they denied that it's
normally PlayStation who doesn'tplay well with others, but
PlayStation was involved becausethere's a whole Concord episode
.

Mark Trobough (01:07:41):
I mean to be fair .
There could have been stuffthat happened behind the scenes
that Microsoft didn't agree with, or there were certain
stipulations they wanted, andthere was no proper agreement.
You're dealing with legalitycrossovers and if you don't do
what Microsoft wants you to dowith the IP, they're going to
tell you no.

Brandon Hurles (01:07:59):
Yeah, I don't know.
To me it's a little odd.
It seems like why would you notwant to?
That would be a really coolcrossover too.
It would seem Doom Slayer andMaster Chief meet each other.
It just sounds cool.
As a fan, I would want to seethat.
It just sounds like a coolconcept.
They're both owned by Microsoft.
Why not?

(01:08:19):
It's a one-off little episode.
Some of those episodes areseven minutes long, other ones
are 30 minutes long.
Some of them are very, veryshort.
They could have did somethingreally cool with it.

Mark Trobough (01:08:31):
Microsoft just had no interest and they said no
.
I guess that's kind of whathappened.

Brandon Hurles (01:08:35):
I can no longer support Microsoft.

Mark Trobough (01:08:39):
Oh, okay, I'll believe it when I see it.
Oh man, we also got a secondtrailer for the Captain America
Brave New World that comes outon Valentine's Day, february
14th.
I don't know what to feel aboutthe movie.
To be honest, I don't knoweither.
It's not a day one watch, butthat's like most things Marvel

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or really anything Disneyrelated.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:04):
Yeah, I'm watching back the trailer now
because I actually didn't get towatch it before.
So I'll do a little livereaction here.
Harrison Ford's in it.

Mark Trobough (01:09:15):
The fact that Harrison Ford's still acting is
it's wild.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:19):
It's pretty wild .

Mark Trobough (01:09:22):
I wonder how old he is.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:23):
He's gotta be what late 70s.

Mark Trobough (01:09:27):
Maybe we can probably find out.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:29):
Oh, red Hulk's in this.
Okay, yeah, harrison.

Mark Trobough (01:09:32):
Ford's 82.
And he looks every bit 82.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:38):
Shatner is still out doing stuff.
He was on the Steve-O podcastand he sounded crystal clear
like he was 20 years old.

Mark Trobough (01:09:47):
Some people.
Obviously people agedifferently, let's just be fair.
But you look at that and you'relike I don't know, unless he
just really enjoys acting.
You look at that and either youreally love doing this job or
you mismanaged all thosemillions of dollars that you
made through all those boxoffice hits you had in the 80s
and 90s.

Brandon Hurles (01:10:05):
I don't know, the trailer doesn't look bad per
se.
I like the Red Hulk and itlooks really, really cool.
Always like Red Hulk.
I still don't know how I feelabout him being Captain America
now.
I mean it happened in thecomics so it is, you know, legit
.

Mark Trobough (01:10:25):
But Then again, iron did.
Iron man became what the otherdude is?
Doctor Doom, doctor Doom, yeah.

Brandon Hurles (01:10:35):
Which I am very interested in.
That.

Mark Trobough (01:10:37):
I will say I'm curious do we, Because obviously
it's the same actor.
Is that just the same actorplaying a different role?
Or is that going to actuallythe actual end lore character
going to become Doctor Doom?
Is there going to be somethingthey're going to do with that?
That's a good question.
I don't know if that ties intothe comics at all, but oh yeah,
it does for sure it does, in oneof the mini-earths of the

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multiverse that he becomes.
Doctor Doom.
I mean, that's the only reasonyou would bring him back, like
Robert Downey Jr backspecifically.

Brandon Hurles (01:11:11):
The thing was is that Doctor Doom is Iron Man's
biggest nemesis, so it's like abig surprise, right?
So that's what they're doingthere.
They're trying to bring peopleback in that were watching
during Endgame, but I guess theidea is, though does the actor
have anything to do?

Mark Trobough (01:11:28):
with it.
That's what they're doing there.
They're, you know they'retrying to bring people back in,
that we're watching during endgame, and yeah, but I guess the
idea is, though, is does the,does the, the actor, have
anything to do with it?
Cause, ideally, you'd want anew actor for a new, new
character.
It'd be fair.
This is just bringing it back,robert down, unless you're.
I mean, the multiverse isinvolved, so it's hard to.

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How many movies have actuallyreally?
How many Marvel movies thatweren't?
Oh, my god, I just blanked onthe name of the movie now what,
sorry.
How many movies that weren'tDeadpool have actually really
played around with themultiverse itself in Marvel?
How many movies that weren'tDeadpool have actually really
played around with themultiverse itself in Marvel?

Brandon Hurles (01:12:12):
How many movies, obviously the Doctor Strange
and the multiverse movie.

Mark Trobough (01:12:19):
How much did it really play with it?
Obviously, Deadpool did it too.

Brandon Hurles (01:12:23):
The Ant-Man and Wasp, I think, played into that
as well, because they went intothe multiverse.
I think I don't know what else.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
I think that that show, whatwas that show called?
The one with Scarlet Witch andwhat's the guy's?

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Name that had to do with themultiverse as well, which was a
TV show, not a movie, butwhatever, the Scarlet Witch and
WandaVision played into it andthen I haven't seen that season
two.
But Mr Coffee said Doom in thecomics was always Victor Von

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Doom.
But in what if Reed Richardbecame a Doom?
So yeah, I don't know.
The thing is about all comicsis they're very convoluted, so
there's so much going on,They've been reset a bajillion
times.

Mark Trobough (01:13:23):
Which storyline are you reading?
And stuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (01:13:24):
They've been reset a bajillion times.
Then they introduced themultiverse and it was just all
hands on deck with everything.
Man, like you know it's, it'shard, it's a massive mess.
Yeah, that's why they reset itall the time, like DC does the
same thing.
They reset it and start fromground zero and it's like how
many times are you going toreset these comics you?

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You screwed up by going too farwith the multiverse.
Too much was happening that youjust it's a whole reset.
We're starting from ground zero.

Mark Trobough (01:13:53):
Everybody's regular again spider-man's
normal, you know I think the Ithink the problem is there.
They're stuck with only so manyip, so many characters, and
they just or too many characters.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:05):
There's too many .
Here I have a wholeencyclopedia for marvel and d DC
that my grandma got me back inthe day this came out.
I mean I must have got them inlike 2003.
So obviously way outdated.
But going through and seeingall these weird characters that
were, like you know, in onecomic or whatever, and it would
go through everything that wasout up to that point for DC and

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Marvel, and like there's toomany characters, and that was in
probably like 2003.
And so like since then I meanthere's been obviously way more
characters.
So I feel like the problem isthere's too there's too many
characters and it's hard to knowwhat's going on.

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Even with the movies, once theyopened up the multiverse, which
I was kind of excited about,but then I was like this is
going to get weird Because toomuch is happening.
So they could keep this goingforever.
I mean legitimately, they couldkeep the MCU just going for a
very long time they're going todo it.

Mark Trobough (01:15:06):
As long as it makes money really, at the end
of the day, as long as it pumpsmoney for them, they're going to
keep going back to the same.
Well, until they tell itthey're going to milk that cow
dry.

Brandon Hurles (01:15:16):
Mr Coffee said very true, but you have to ask
yourself how is manga able tokeep pumping up new original
characters and stories?
I mean, the difference withmanga is that it's one set story
, like sure there is.
It can get convoluted to whenyou have different novels and
you've got.

Mark Trobough (01:15:34):
I mean there's a lot of.
There's a lot of overlay in howthere's a lot of like same
stories that are very similar toeach other, like a lot of
isekai are very similar, but youhave different people.
Just they start doing doujins,which is a more independent
version of it, and theyeventually get picked up and
they just make stories.
There's no set IP.
Once One Piece is done, that IPis probably never going to get

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as far as the manga goes outsideof doujin.
It's probably not going to everget touched again.
I don't know about that.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:01):
I thought the same thing about Naruto.

Mark Trobough (01:16:04):
Look what happened there.
Yeah, but it's the same authorwho then moved on to Boruto.

Game Junction (01:16:07):
I mean they could do the same thing for one piece
to continue on to a newcharacter.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:12):
You know what I mean.
I feel like that's too big ofan IP.
That one piece just ends like Ican't see that happening once
Capriccio Oda is the dude thatwrites it.

Mark Trobough (01:16:22):
Once he's done writing it, more or less, that
story is going to be done.
You can bring in other authorsto write it, but I that story's
going to be done.
You can bring in other authorsto write it, but I highly doubt
it's going to have the sameimpact, knowing it's a different
person behind it.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:32):
It's a whole different medium.
Manga just works different thanAmerican comics do.

Mark Trobough (01:16:37):
There's a handful of IPs that have a 50-year run
span when it comes to anime andmanga.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:41):
I mean you look at Gundam you can say Gundam's
pretty convoluted With all theseries.

Mark Trobough (01:16:48):
You do have different people doing different
iterations of Gundam, to befair.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:51):
Yeah, there's a lot of hands.

Mark Trobough (01:16:53):
Gundam isn't the moneymaker.
Gundam is the poster child forthe Gunpla, which is what they
sell, and they make a lot ofmoney off of it.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:59):
I don't think it was.
It didn't start that way,though it started.

Mark Trobough (01:17:04):
Well, you go back in the day, the whole it
started.
You go back in the day thewhole reason it was made was to
then sell toys.

Brandon Hurles (01:17:11):
When it started with the manga, there were no
gunplugs it started as atelevision series and started as
a manga I'm sorry.

Mark Trobough (01:17:21):
The problem was that they and it was a whole
mess with the original gun.
But the premise for a lot ofthese shows is is you can make
this story, but the show needsto sell toys and needs to sell
merchandise.

Brandon Hurles (01:17:34):
Like merchandise is where all cartoons and
pretty much everything is tosell.

Mark Trobough (01:17:38):
But that's why the Gundams have to be designed
certain ways and why they'realways the standout character,
because you need to sell themerchandise of the mobile suit,
which usually is in the form ofa type of gumpluff.
That's where the actual moneyis made.
Yeah, so a lot of these shows,and not all of them, but a lot
of anime.
They're written from the groundup with merchandise in mind,

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knowing it has to sell somethingelse to actually make money and
continue to get funded fromthese big publishers.
These big publishers, studiosand stuff like that Makes sense.

Brandon Hurles (01:18:11):
Makes sense.
I just had my entire thingcrash on me so I don't have any
of the notes pulled up.
Trying to get it back up, Idon't know what we had next yeah
, I, yeah, I saw mr copies.

Mark Trobough (01:18:27):
I'd have to dig back into it because it's, it's,
it's a.
I mean you talk about a showthat that's like 50 years old.
That's a whole convoluted mess.
Yeah, even back then I'm prettysure there were still
stipulations that needed to sell, sell some merchandise.
Even back then, all right.

Brandon Hurles (01:18:42):
So we've got uh, the steam awards 2024 winners
revealed.
Looks like we got Game of theYear Black Myth Wukong, vr.
Game of the Year, metroAwakening, which I really want
to play, that Best Game you SuckAt.
Black Myth Wukong, outstandingStory.
Rich Game.
Black Myth Wukong.
Labor of these are weirdcategories Labor of Love, elden

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Ring.
Best Game on Steam Deck God ofWar, ragnarok that's kind of
surprising.
I would have thought likeBlatro or something better with
friends.
Helldivers 2 outstanding visualstyle.
Silent Hill 2 most innovativegameplay.
Liar's Bar I almost bought thatbecause it's like three bucks
on Steam.
It looked kind of interesting.
Might have to.

(01:19:25):
I might have to end up grabbingthat.
Best soundtrack.
Red Dead Redemption 1?
Yeah, that's crazy.
What the why would that be inthere?

Mark Trobough (01:19:36):
It's an old game.
These are all community votedon Steam, so this is a wholesale
people that have a.
You have an account, you go inand you make votes and stuff
like that.

Brandon Hurles (01:19:45):
That's how they 100% voted on by the Steam
community.
You have an account, you go inand you make votes and stuff
like that that's how they.

Mark Trobough (01:19:48):
That's weird that you include a game so old.
These are 100% voted on by theSteam community.
And then, what the nominationsare, I don't know.

Brandon Hurles (01:19:54):
Sit Back and Relax was Farming Simulator 25.
Farm Simulators are reallypopular.
I know they are.
I had it on the Vita.
I actually liked it.
I thought it was pretty fun.
I liked it.
That was pretty fun.

Mark Trobough (01:20:05):
I thought it was interesting because obviously
some of these titles are uniquebut just the fact that this is a
wholesale fan vote I don't knowhow they do the nominations for
some of these games, for someof this stuff but the fact that
you can do a wholesale fan vote,that's.
You know, I'm sure Decemberwage, you could probably bought
it, but it's not the easiestthing to do, yeah, or most
people aren't going to do itbecause who cares?

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Right, right, alright, so wegot.
And the fact that I somehowmissed this.
I didn't realize it was goingon and I missed it, so I wasn't
able to vote.

Brandon Hurles (01:20:34):
This one.
You have to watch the trailer,Mark, and let me know what you
think while we're talking aboutit here.
But they announced MarvelAnimation announced your
Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man.
So this is a new take and I'veheard really positive things.
Art style is pretty neat.
It's like a comic book-y artstyle for the show.

(01:20:55):
It goes back to kind of thebeginning of Spider-Man.
So this is basing off of thecomic book series your Friendly
Neighborhood Spider-Man, whichis one of the offshoots of
Spider-Man.
There was a bunch of mainlineSpider-Man comics that were not
related at all, but this isbased off of that particular
comic book series.

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So it looks cool.
I actually like the animationstyle where it kind of looks
like a comic book.
You know, it definitely looksinteresting.
It's got a lot of modern dayelements into it.
You've got people with cellphones recording and stuff like
that.
Spider-man's got that earlySpider-Man suit.

(01:21:36):
It just says it's celebratingthe roots of Spider-Man, from
the classic Spider-Man TV themeto the comic book shop intro.
It's a show having a comicstyle look and slew of
transitions.
This is set during modern timesand we will get to see a young
Peter Parker slash Spider-Mandeal with such things as social

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media live streams when he'ssaving people and managing
school, so I think it lookspretty good.
It's something.
It's something I would checkout for sure, Cause I'm a big
Spider-Man guy Actually.
good, it's something something Iwould check out for sure,
because I'm a big spider-man guy.

Mark Trobough (01:22:10):
Um, actually, um, I did hear about this, but not
from that, and I didn't realizeit was a new tv show.
I just saw it on social media.
It's the.
Uh, it's norman osborne, whichis where all the internet
discussion's going on what?
And a lot of people are doingthat with the.
Uh, I think it's the normanosborne from the og spider-man
movies.
Yeah, I was like that with some.
I think it's the Norman Osbornfrom the OG Spider-Man movies.
Yeah, stuff like that with someof the memes.

(01:22:31):
Uh-huh, I don't know how he wasin the comics, because people
just jump into the idea that Idon't know if it was changed in
the comics or when, but theyjust race-swapped Norman Osborn
out In this.
I don't know how accurate thatactually is.
Oh, I have no idea.
It's not in the trailer, so I'mnot sure.
No, I think it was revealedafter the fact.
Well, it was revealed back onthe 29th, so Huh, I can.

Brandon Hurles (01:22:56):
I'm looking through the images to see.
If I see anything, I put it inthe notes for you.
I hope not.
They need to stop doing allthat.
Just leave characters the waythey were created.
I don't know, they gave himsome dope.
Oh, doing all that.

Mark Trobough (01:23:08):
Just leave characters the way they were
created.
I don't know, they gave himsome dope.

Brandon Hurles (01:23:12):
I think you're right, because I see there's one
image that looks like it mightbe.

Mark Trobough (01:23:16):
Yeah, I posted a note for you.
Right there at the bottom it'sa link from X.
Okay, yeah, let me check thisout.
Yeah, they did that's like theI heard about that like a lot
this week.
That's like the immediate thingpeople jumped on and then the

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memes are just.

Brandon Hurles (01:23:37):
I know I just saw the meme, but people just
jumped on it oh, that's kind offunny.
I'm not sure why they did that,man, I don't.
I'm not sure.

Mark Trobough (01:23:48):
I don't know anything, man.
I don't know anything about themanga, I don't know anything
about the comic but this isbased off.
I don't know the history withsome of that stuff, but
obviously people just think it'sthe one thing and you jump to a
conclusion because, well,you've been trained to do that,
I'll see if I can.
I mean it'll have no impact onhow good the show actually is,
but it's definitely.
You're not going to get a showthat's drama-free or a game.

(01:24:11):
There's going to be dramasomewhere.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:13):
Trying to see what he looked like in the your
Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Mancomics.
He could have been.
Could have been black in that?
Yeah, because it came out.

Mark Trobough (01:24:27):
Norman Osborn's going to be voiced by Coleman
Domingo.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:31):
I don't know.
I can't find exactly where, buthe could have been in the
comics.
He could have been, becausebetween the different Spider-Man
comics that were all running atthe same time some characters
were different and stuff likethat.
So I don't know.
It's hard to tell, but I'lldefinitely check out the show.
I think it looks pretty cool.

Mark Trobough (01:24:50):
I like the art style.
It might still be good, it'sjust.
That's the one obvious thingpeople could latch onto, and
then social media does its thing.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:59):
Yeah, for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:25:01):
Other than that, it looks like a.
Hopefully it's good.
Who knows it looks?

Brandon Hurles (01:25:06):
good the animation's.
You know it's not MCU relatedso maybe you know might be good.
We got, let's see restream.
Mr Coffee said, gundam lost itsway.
Oh, I'm sorry.
No, sorry, what were you goingto say?
Mr Coffee said Gundam lost itsway when it veered off its core

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story about being anti-war.
The merch came later and helpedthem produce more shows.
Yeah, see, that's what Ithought.
My understanding.
Gunpla didn't come out untilyears after Gundam was already
out.

Mark Trobough (01:25:40):
I'm still sure that I have to go back and
double check, but I'm prettysure the merchandise was always
an issue with that show.
But he is right about theanti-war check.
But I'm pretty sure themerchandise was always an issue
with that show.
But he is right about theanti-war.
The problem with that is everynew show you get, it's a, it's a
new, a alternate universe story.
Yeah, it's not the og like,because it's the problem with
the.
The thing with universalcentury is it's so well
developed because they've stuckit and make so many series.

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A lot of these alternateuniverse, even if they have a
good, they just do one seasonand they move on.

Game Junction (01:26:08):
They don't ever develop an actual world, which
is why I think most people whoget into Gundam realize how good
Universal Century is.

Mark Trobough (01:26:14):
All the best Gundam is in Universal Century,
some of the worst, well, butit's peak.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:20):
I still stand behind saying that SD Gundam is
probably one of the best Gundamscoming out.

Mark Trobough (01:26:26):
A lot of SD Gundam deals with Universal
Century Timeline.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:29):
Yeah, it does man.
Why do people overlook that SDGundam is so good?

Mark Trobough (01:26:35):
It's not.
I hated it.
I never liked it.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:38):
I loved it as a kid.
Mr Coffee said FarmingSimulator is huge in Germany.
It also said they also genderswapped the son, that now it's a
girl, osborn apparently.
And Palmer Froggy Guy said hey,mark.

Mark Trobough (01:26:58):
Yeah.
And then because there's aweird thing Technically all
Gundam is canon.
If you take the lore of Turn 8Gundam seriously, yeah, it's
more of a hearsay from mypeer-to-peer talk about it
because I never actually watchedthe series.
I don't think I even have ityet.
I still need to buy that serieson Blu-ray.

(01:27:19):
But you know, if you're intothe lore, that technically every
Gundam is canon in the sametimeline because of that Gundam.
Make that make sense to me.
That's a whole other discussionwe can have later.
Yeah, for sure we have the OGGundam on the dock to talk about
at the end of the month on theAnime Junction podcast.

Brandon Hurles (01:27:37):
I thought that was cancelled.

Mark Trobough (01:27:39):
No, it's moving to the right.
Oh okay, I thought we cancelledit.
That's such a good.

Brandon Hurles (01:27:46):
I'm just joking, obviously I want to talk about
that.

Mark Trobough (01:27:50):
We could talk a whole hour just on that alone,
to be fair.
Yeah, we could, for sure.
I guess the last thing beforewe move on.
The Final Fantasy XVI director,Hiroshi Taki, has indeed teased
that he's working on a newunannounced game project that's
supposed to come out, or wasrumored to come out, sometime in
2025.

(01:28:10):
Okay.
So it's pretty interesting.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:16):
Yeah, no, that definitely Definitely.

Mark Trobough (01:28:19):
Don't know if it's going to be another Final
Fantasy game, but the samedirector that worked on 16 is
supposed to have another gamethat kind of comes out later on.
So you know, possibly something, at least an announcement, to
look forward to.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:30):
Yeah, no, for sure, I mean, I'm always for
that we also got.

Mark Trobough (01:28:35):
Oh yeah, gamerfreak, just saw you over
there on the Twitch.
We do have Godzilla on thedocket because there was some
news to talk about.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:40):
Oh yeah, there is news on that, isn't there.
So we got oh yeah, there isnews on that, isn't there, so we
got.
Were these questions that youwanted to go through Most of
those were stuff that I pulledup minus the last one that I
pulled from.

Mark Trobough (01:28:59):
I think it was the YouTube chat.

Brandon Hurles (01:29:01):
Alright so top five Pokemon games.
Alright, you go first.

Mark Trobough (01:29:08):
I guess I say top five.

Brandon Hurles (01:29:09):
I don first, because I know my top.

Mark Trobough (01:29:11):
I say top five, I don't know if I would put these
in order and these are thegames that I played.
So the only gen I haven'tplayed is gen five, which
probably arguably has, from whatI've seen, the best games.
But I haven't played black andwhite, and black and white too,
so I can't put them in my topfive.
Alright, hold on, I can goahead and do mine real quick.

Brandon Hurles (01:29:28):
Okay, black 2, pokemon Crystal, omega, ruby
Pokemon, battle Revolution,which is a spinoff game, and
then probably probably X PokemonX.

Mark Trobough (01:29:51):
And my five is no particular order.
These are just the five gamesthat I enjoy playing the most.
The Gen 3, the ORAS remakes ofGen 3 is the best, I would say,
not only the best remakes, butprobably the best Pokemon games
out there.
Whichever one you want to takedoesn't really matter to me,
then you probably have, becauseI haven't made the Gen 2 remakes
, but I also like the Gen 2games, so I'd take the Crystal.

(01:30:14):
Yeah, I wish I should.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:16):
The remaster of the two, that would be six for
me.

Mark Trobough (01:30:21):
Gen 1 has its flaws, but I do like Pokemon
Yellow.
I'm going to do theaccumulation.
It's a very unique game thattook a while before they came
back to what they did with thefollowing Pokemon, and they
haven't done a whole lot sinceand it's the only anime-based
Pokemon game- yeah, it's theonly one that went back and
redid it based off the show.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:41):
Yeah, I wish they would have done more of
that, because it would have beeninteresting.

Mark Trobough (01:30:47):
I believe it's.
Was it Platinum, the Gen 4?
Yeah, platinum's good too.
I mean, it's the only good game.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:55):
Look, I'll be real with you.
There isn't any mainlinePokemon game I dislike.
Even Scarlet and Violet I stilllove.
There's none of them I dislike.

Mark Trobough (01:31:04):
I hate good childless games, but it's such
an unenjoyable playthrough forme.
None of them I dislike.
It's good childless games, butit's such an unenjoyable
playthrough for me.

Brandon Hurles (01:31:08):
It wasn't for me .
Once you got past all theissues.
Once you got past the issues, Ithink the core game was fun and
it was a new attempt at Pokemon.
An open world Pokemon game.
That's what I always wanted.

Mark Trobough (01:31:24):
I guess that one would be the Legends I think it
does the open world ten timesbetter.
It understands.
And I guess that one would bethe Legends, arceus, which I
think does the open world 10times better it understands the
limitation of the hardware.
You still have to go betweentheir piss poor optimization and
programming and realize thatyou need to section off the
world if you're going to do thatopen world, because even that
game that the pop in is kind ofbad with how close you have to
get to Pokemon yeah, legendArceus is up there for me too.

Brandon Hurles (01:31:46):
Actually, to be honest, I probably swap that
with Pokemon Battle Revolution.
I love that game too, which isone that nobody talks about that
game ever?

Mark Trobough (01:31:57):
Yeah, because I mean and this is my personal
opinion everything after Gen 5is just a steady decline in how
good the games are.
Really.
That's a personal.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:06):
Did you like Brilliant Diamond, Shining Pearl
?
I did not care for the Sun andMoon.
Did you like Sword and Shield?

Mark Trobough (01:32:14):
I liked it better than Sun and Moon and the
Silver, the two games we justgot.
Ultra.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:24):
Sun and Ultra Moon.

Mark Trobough (01:32:26):
The Gen 7 as a whole.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:27):
Essentially, I like dude.

Mark Trobough (01:32:30):
I also like the different take on if you're
going to play that gen I thinkit's gen 7 just play ultra.
Don't even bother with sun andmoon, just play the ultra
because it's the same game, samestory, just the extra content,
which.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:40):
I think was a terrible decision on Nintendo's
part to do it that way one thingthat I always look back at is
why did they never do anotherdirect sequel, like they did
with Black 2 and White 2?
I mean it makes Because itworks so well.

Mark Trobough (01:32:57):
Those are beloved games on most people's lists of
the number one games.
With the amount of complexitythe game started to get,
especially when they moved into3D, and probably it just
financially wasn't making themas much money as it used to be,
to be fair.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:09):
Well, there was no decline in sales until
Scarlet Violet.
No, as far I mean.

Mark Trobough (01:33:17):
I meant that third game specifically wasn't
hitting whatever they wanted tohit financially, or they just
decided not to who really knowsat the end of the day, or they
just didn't want to.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:26):
Who really knows at the end of the day?
Yeah, I'm not.
It's hard to tell, or they?

Mark Trobough (01:33:28):
just didn't want to throw the development cost
into it, Because all the waythrough the Ultra Sun and Moon
are kind of that, but it's.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:36):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
They're kind of Direct Seals,but they're basically the same
game.
It's like just play those,although if you are doing the
complete decks, if I remembercorrectly, there are Pokemon
that you can only get in thebase.

Mark Trobough (01:33:50):
Sun and Moon correct that aren't in Ultra.
I thought it was the.
There's certain Pokemon stuckin the.
There are certain legendariesor mythicals I can't remember
which one, that are stuck onlyin the Ultra versions.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:59):
But is there a Pokemon stuck in the base games
too?

Mark Trobough (01:34:03):
I don't think so.
I think all the same basePokemon were in all of them.
I don't do the national decks.

Brandon Hurles (01:34:07):
But I just, for some reason I thought that if
you wanted to complete it youstill had to play those games.
But I guess to add on to thatjust to kind of add on to that.
What would be your top fivePokemon spinoff games?

Mark Trobough (01:34:23):
The problem is I haven't played a whole five.
I can do it easy.
The.
The problem is I haven't playeda whole, I can do it easy, so
I'll just go ahead and throw thepinball.
You've got the.
What's the adventures games.
Adventures games Not theadventures games, but the Ranger
, no, I didn't play the Ranger.
I guess Arceus is the onlyother spin-off game that I've
played.

Brandon Hurles (01:34:43):
So for me, pokemon Battle Revolution I'll
just throw that one in there.
Pokemon Ranger you can take anyof the Pokemon Ranger games,
they're all good.
Pokemon Stadium 2.
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, blueRescue Team and then, I guess,

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pokemon Snap.
Yeah, probably be my top ones,but I mean, there's a lot of
honorable mentions too.
There's so many Pokemon games,it's just a lot to go through.
Alright, so what are your topgaming anticipations for 2025?

Mark Trobough (01:35:31):
I think there's only four of the announcements
that we know.
That I think will be on mydocket.
So obviously it's the MonsterHunter Wilds we're expecting,
obviously Prime 4, and then theLegend ZA, and then I guess it's
kind of hard to make a list andnot have GTA 6 on there as well
.
It's probably going to win abunch of awards, and then the
Legend ZA, and then I guess it'skind of hard to make a list and
not have GTA 6 on there as well.
It's probably going to win abunch of awards and be the

(01:35:52):
biggest game launcher this year.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:54):
Yeah.
So I think for me, gta 6,metroid Prime 4, ghost of Yotai,
doom of the Dark Ages what else?
Let me think?
Death Stranding 2?
Nah, absolutely not.
Walking Simulator 2.0absolutely not.
Those are my tops.
I'm really excited for Doom ofthe Dark Ages.

(01:36:16):
Ghost of Yotai.
I loved Ghost of Tsushima, soI'm sure I'm going to like that
one too.
Monster Hunter Wilds for me aswell.
I actually didn't know you wereeven a Monster Hunter fan, to
be honest with you.

Mark Trobough (01:36:31):
I've not really played in the game, so this
would be the real first properone I'd get into.
I have got the worlds, but Iplay an hour of it.

Brandon Hurles (01:36:40):
This one's hard because I'm like I don't know if
it's going to be good, but Iwant Borderlands 4 to be good,
but Pokemon Legends.
Ea is at the top for me becauseI love Dark Ages so much, at
the very tip top, along withDoom Dark Ages.
I'm so hyped for Pokemon,legends, ea, I mean, but Ghost

(01:37:02):
of Yotai definitely.
Are you excited for Ghost ofYotai?

Mark Trobough (01:37:06):
I'm cautiously optimistic.

Brandon Hurles (01:37:08):
Yeah, I'm.
I can't see it going wrong asfar as the gameplay goes.
Hopefully the DEI stays faraway from it.
Ghost of Tsushima is just anabsolute masterpiece.
I've played it twice.
Played it on PS4 and PS5.
Yeah, I'm cautiously optimisticas well, but Pokemon.

(01:37:34):
Legends.
EA.
We've seen so little of it andArceus was just so good that I
have really high hopes for thisgame, being that it's on the
Switch 2 and can handle that,because Legends Arceus wasn't
open world, it was open worldesque, but you went between
areas they could Switch 2 couldhandle.
I mean, obviously Switch 1could handle it because we got

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Breath of the Wild and Tears ofthe Kingdom.

Mark Trobough (01:37:59):
Which, if you look at it, it's poorly coded or
poorly optimized.

Brandon Hurles (01:38:03):
Something happened along the way.

Mark Trobough (01:38:04):
Gameplay just did not care to fix the problem.
They were just like, eh, goodenough.

Brandon Hurles (01:38:07):
Yeah, because Scarlet and Violet.
There's no reason that thatshould have happened.
When you have Tears of theKingdom and stuff like that,
there's no reason.
But Pokemon Legends, ea, takethat format of Arceus, make it
full open world, and thenobviously you've got DLSS
involved to upscale everythingand look good.
That game to upscale everythingand look good that game could

(01:38:28):
very well be up there with Gameof the Year contender for next
year.
I think it has a chance.

Mark Trobough (01:38:35):
I think we already know what's GTA 6 is
winning Game of the Year.

Brandon Hurles (01:38:38):
Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying it can be a
contender.
I think that it has thepossibility.

Mark Trobough (01:38:42):
It should be, but you can.
Already the moment you knew GTA6 was coming out, you're like
if's going to be a big award.
If it doesn't get delayed,which is why Nintendo doesn't
need any games coming outanywhere near that game.

Brandon Hurles (01:38:54):
Oh, here's another one.
I'm an idiot.
I completely forgot.
Metal Gear Solid, delta, snakeEater, the remake.
I forgot about that.
I'm excited for that too.
Oh yeah, I forgot about thattoo.
Yeah, that's going to be a goodone, I'm sure.
Death Stranding 2, man, like I,just you can't.
I just don't care.

Game Junction (01:39:14):
Oh, another one that I think is going to be a
sleeper hit.

Brandon Hurles (01:39:16):
that looked really good.
We both thought it lookedpretty good.
Split Fiction that's one thatwe're going to have to stream,
play together for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:39:29):
Because that looks like a really good game
and it's obviously two people.
I think we're going to get abunch more announcements for
games coming out, yeah for sure.
In the first quarter of 2025and stuff like that, so there
could be better games to come.
That's just what we know rightnow for sure.

Brandon Hurles (01:39:39):
Let me ask you are you going to stream at
Metroid Prime 4?

Mark Trobough (01:39:44):
I mean, I probably should.

Brandon Hurles (01:39:46):
I think you should.
As much as I love Metroid, Ialways see you as the Metroid
guy, so I'd watch all yourstreams those games I grew up
playing yeah, for sure what's it?

Mark Trobough (01:39:58):
Metroid Prime 1, 2 and then Metroid Fusion.
Those were like the three gamesI played the crap to when I was
growing up, didn't?
You have Zero Mission too yeah,but I didn't play nearly as
much.
I don't think I ever properlyhave Zero Mission too.
Yeah, but I didn't play nearlyas much Gotcha.
I don't think I ever properlybeat Zero Mission until like
years later.

Brandon Hurles (01:40:13):
Okay, alright, so we got some Godzilla news.
What's going on here withGodzilla?

Mark Trobough (01:40:18):
Yeah, so this dropped on the first because it
was announced on the first.
But as of like two days ago,the official 24-7 Godzilla
channel on Pluto TV has goneoffline.
I don't know if we know why.
They just said hey, we're not,it's not a thing anymore.
It didn't affect me because Idon't have Pluto TV, but

(01:40:39):
obviously, if you did and you'relike a huge Godzilla, huge
Kaiju fan, this is like a bigthing.
Yeah, we can just go there andwatch a Godzilla movie.

Brandon Hurles (01:40:45):
Pluto TV is free on everything.
It's on every smart TV.
I would throw it on at night aslike my thing to go to sleep,
which is really the only waythat I was watching it and stuff
.
It's kind of a bummer.
It must mean the viewershipdropped down because you can
only.
They went through the entirecatalog pretty much and it just
started to repeat over and overand over again.

(01:41:07):
So my assumption is thatviewership through the entire
catalog pretty much and it juststarted to repeat over and over
and over again.
So my assumption is thatviewership just dropped down and
just canceled.
It Just wasn't there.
Yeah, because I mean you'rerepeating the same movies over
and over, like you can only dothat so much.
So yeah, I mean, I guess to beexpected, but yeah, we're going

(01:41:29):
to be going through all theGodzilla movies here soon.
So we got to figure out like,when are we thinking to record
those?

Mark Trobough (01:41:36):
first two episodes We'll have to get on
the docket here soon, next weekor two.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:41):
Yeah, soon.
Yeah, I would say soon.
I'd like to drop the firstepisode this month, I guess,
just planning to go ahead andwatch the first movie and then
we'll make that the firstepisode back for the first
Godzilla movie.
So just plan that out.
But yeah, that's coming soon,so stay tuned for Culture
Junkies.
I saw some comments.

(01:42:01):
Where were they at?
I've got so many, I've got like50 tabs up.
Where was it?
There were some comments aboutsomething with oh goodness, I
don't know.
I saw something about Godzilla.

Mark Trobough (01:42:19):
Yeah, RIP.

Brandon Hurles (01:42:23):
RIP.

Mark Trobough (01:42:26):
Is Godzilla still around?

Brandon Hurles (01:42:28):
Let's see.
We got Mr Coffee said rest inpeace, godzilla channel on Pluto
TV and asked is Dragon Quest aPokemon game?
Well, it was technicallyPokemon before Pokemon.
So yeah, I mean yeah, pokemonstole the designs.
You know, dragon quest monstersbasically Said Borderlands.

(01:42:52):
I'm a bit worried about it.
Last couple, even thecollections were poorly
developed and said well,remember, nintendo can release
only one or two Zelda games fora console and fans are happy
Pokemon.
Fans want a new game every yearand that doesn't give enough
dev time to polish it.
What's crazy is that Scarlet,violet and Legends Arceus came
out in the same year.

Mark Trobough (01:43:15):
One obviously had far more polish and work put
into it.

Brandon Hurles (01:43:19):
Also, I would have to rebuttal on the one or
two Zelda games for console,because we got a bunch of Zelda
games for the Switch.
We got Link's.

Mark Trobough (01:43:26):
Awakening Echo's Wis for console, because we got
a bunch of Zelda games.
For the Switch, we gotmainstream mainline Zelda games.
You get a bunch of spin-offgames that probably isn't
developed directly for Nintendo,not spin-off games, though
those are mainline let's be fair.
Think of every handheld game.
Every game falls into thetimeline, but like I didn't know

(01:43:47):
there, was a spinoff Zelda gamereally.
A lot of games.
Like any handheld Zelda game,you probably would consider a
spinoff game, not a mainlinegame, to be fair.

Brandon Hurles (01:43:56):
I guess, I don't know.

Mark Trobough (01:43:58):
We have a timeline but a lot of those
games don't necessarily.
There's like a few hundredyears between some of these
games.

Brandon Hurles (01:44:07):
Yeah, I guess I kind of get the point there.
Okay, so what is?
What game are you mostembarrassed to like?

Mark Trobough (01:44:19):
This one was actually pretty easy Because I
played it on the GameCube and Ithought it was still a fun game,
even back in the day, becausewe would have been in middle
school At some point that Istill played this game.
But it's Rugrats.
Royal.
Ransom on the game.
I love the Rugrats video games.
It was actually a decently funquasi open world game.

(01:44:41):
Yeah, I like the Rugrats games.

Brandon Hurles (01:44:44):
I played the new one, played and beat the new
one that came out a couplemonths ago.
That was really fun.
The 2D side-scroller yeah, butno.
Yeah, I had Rugrats on the PS1.
We rented it, loved it.
Then there was another Rugratsgame on the PS1 that we also
rented.
That I didn't care for, but Iliked the one.
I think it was just calledRugrats.
I called Rugrats, I think.

(01:45:11):
What game?
Am I embarrassed?
Maybe, I don't know, I guess,maybe.

Mark Trobough (01:45:20):
It's Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
I knew it.

Brandon Hurles (01:45:23):
But it is similar to that.
I'm trying to remember theexact title it's called like.
Disney's.
Magical Dang it.
I've got the second one on theSwitch and the first one on the
3DS.
It's like Animal Crossing butit's Disney Magical Adventure.
I had to look it up on aMagical Castle Switch.

(01:45:45):
Oh, it's called Disney'sMagical Magical Castle Switch.
It's called Disney's MagicalWorld, that's what it's called.
It's basically an AnimalCrossing game with Disney
characters.
I think it's pretty fun.

Mark Trobough (01:45:59):
You gotta watch out.
Mickey Mouse is a psychopathPretty much, they hide it really
well.
It's got that game coming outwhere he kills a bunch of people
is a psychopath Pretty much,they hide it really well.

Brandon Hurles (01:46:07):
Yeah, I mean he's got that game coming out
where he kills a bunch of people.

Mark Trobough (01:46:10):
I was talking about the South Park iterations
of him.

Brandon Hurles (01:46:17):
Do you want to get and jump into the new news?
I got to walk away for just aquick second, sorry.

Mark Trobough (01:46:22):
Yeah, we can All right.
Oh, it's like the worst time towalk away, I know.

Brandon Hurles (01:46:26):
I'll be hold on.

Mark Trobough (01:46:29):
I guess we're gonna move.
Yeah, we're gonna hold off alittle bit because we obviously
the main thing is we more untilwe get a proper announcement
from Nintendo.
Hey, what's your next directgonna be better, hurry up.
There's more, more leaks forthe switch to are definitely
ramping up all the way around.
So the most recent Switch 2leak has to do with some patent

(01:46:55):
and suggests some AI upscalingtechnologies potentially being
used, which, to be fair, isn'treally that much of a jump.
So there was a post over onReddit about an actual picture
of the alleged picture of theactual motherboard from the
factory, of what it looks likeand stuff like that.

(01:47:17):
I'm not a tech expert.
Just looking at it doesn't tellme a whole lot.
It's not a uniquely designedmotherboard, that's the very
least.
But obviously certain inputs.
You've got the NVIDIA card thatthey're using.
That's in there as well, butit's just one of those.
The more this thing is indevelopment, longer certain more
people continue to have accessto it and Nintendo waits to

(01:47:38):
announce it, the more you'regoing to start getting some of
these leaks that ideally,nintendo would like to stay
ahead of, but because they'vetaken too long to announce it,
you're just going to get morerumors left and right.
They're just going to startcoming out all over the place,
so some of the rumors and stufflike that were.
Some of the specs that werementioned in this rumor were

(01:48:00):
what's it?
12 gigabytes of RAM, up fromthe four on the original Switch,
the 256 gigabytes of internalstorage, which is significantly
much needed 32 gigs is just notenough as well as a C button on
the right Joy-Con.
I don't know how much of theleaked stuff that you knew about
or you wanted to talk aboutspecifically.

Brandon Hurles (01:48:19):
No, I mean just the motherboard image being
there.
Yeah, we get kind of a closelook at it scanning through.
I don't know exactly what I'mlooking at.
There's some good breakdownsout there about it.
They know the physical hardwarebetter, but it does seem to be

(01:48:43):
accurate.
It makes sense.
The timing is right.
It's just around the corner.
We expect to see these leaks,like with the PS5 Pro.
We knew like six months inadvance.
It was coming out because ofleaks.

Mark Trobough (01:48:57):
Well, the longer Nintendo waits and the more this
thing is in production, themore likely there are leaks to
come out where people are goingto have access to it, which
makes me think why are youwaiting?

Brandon Hurles (01:49:10):
No seriously.
What are they waiting on formore leaks?
Like it's almost come to thepoint.
It's like are you leaking theseyourself?

Mark Trobough (01:49:19):
Like the Switch.
At this point, the Switch isgoing to get leaked itself
properly before you actuallycome out and say anything about
it.

Brandon Hurles (01:49:25):
You had like I mean, the leaks are everywhere,
like Mario and Luigi Brothershipleaked out like eight weeks
early.
The game was online.
You can play it and download it.
Like it's crazy that theseleaks are happening so much.

Mark Trobough (01:49:41):
The only thing I think of while they're waiting
is they're trying to figure out.
They want to figure out wherethe leaks are coming through.
Plug that hole before they moveforward with a lot of stuff.

Brandon Hurles (01:49:49):
I mean, if this leak is accurate, it's coming
from an assembly line, it'scoming from somewhere in some
factory warehouse where this isbeing worked on.

Mark Trobough (01:50:01):
It makes a lot more sense.
But it's just one of thosethings where the longer you wait
, the more this stuff is goingto start running rampant.
Eventually, something big isgoing to get leaked, You're
going to know for sure.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:10):
We pretty much know what the Switch 2 looks
like Based on those renders.

Mark Trobough (01:50:15):
Pretty much all the specs what to expect from
certain hardware, which happenedwith the PS5.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:19):
Pro 2.
We knew the entire specs ofthat console way before it came
out, and all of them wereaccurate.
I think we're going to knoweverything about the Switch 2
before it even comes out andNintendo reveals it, which is
crazy.
You'd think they would want tojump on top of it and actually
reveal it themselves.

Mark Trobough (01:50:38):
Well, jumping on top of it would be not waiting
forever to talk about it, that'swhat I'm saying.
Especially when you starthaving these leaks and stuff
come out left and right.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:46):
Why are we still waiting?

Game Junction (01:50:47):
saying like leaks and stuff come out left and
right, why, why, why are westill waiting?

Mark Trobough (01:50:49):
like you, you would think that they'd want to
be on top of it, because I meanthe other problem is you're
gonna know three days beforenintendo announces because
that's how they announce their,their directs it'll be like a
sunday and they're gonna like ohhey, this tuesday we're gonna
have this direct.
Yeah, it's gonna be like somesome time where it's just like
hey, in two days, good luck, wedon't care if you want to try to

(01:51:09):
stream it, or something likethat.
My players are going to announceit on a Wednesday at 10 am my
time, and I'll be like I can'tstream this because I'm going to
be at work.

Brandon Hurles (01:51:20):
Yeah, I actually joined the Nintendo Switch to
Reddit just to try to stay ontop of what's coming out,
because there's just so muchevery week that we got stuff to
talk about.
But somebody commented belowthis post said how the F is
literally every aspect of thisconsole getting leaked before an
announcement for the thingactually happens.

Mark Trobough (01:51:37):
Which I mean is this thing is if the rumors are
right, this was in productionback in the fall, like it's been
in production for months atthis point, which means them
just waiting forever to announceit is you know, they're digging
their own grave with theseleaks.

Brandon Hurles (01:51:52):
Essentially, yeah, and these are very
detailed pictures.
The thing about this, aboutfaking this?
Yeah, for sure.
The thing about faking this isthis costs money.
You can't just one-off amotherboard like this.
No, but unlike the other onewhere it was very big blurry far
away.

Mark Trobough (01:52:11):
This one's up close and actually getting
actual pictures on it.
I mean, if somebody faked this,all the more power you take.
You put a lot of money intothis fake.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Brandon Hurles (01:52:20):
You've got an actual NVIDIA chip on there.
You've got money into fakingthis.
So to me, this one.
I don't know about you, butthis does seem accurate.
To me this does seem legitimateand you've got an actual.
The crazy thing is, if you lookat the third picture and zoom
in on it, like zoom in on theactual picture, there's a Switch

(01:52:41):
cartridge in a cartridge slotso it fits the Switch cartridge,
so you know that this is anactual thing.

Mark Trobough (01:52:47):
Also, looking at where they've got certain like
the ports and stuff like that,or obviously your charging port
and stuff like that, the wayit's designed looks somewhat
realistic than what you'd expect.

Brandon Hurles (01:52:56):
It's got the double USB-C ports, like that
was rumored.
You've got the one on top oneon bottom.

Mark Trobough (01:53:02):
That makes sense.
The Switch 1, the OG Switch hasUSB-C.
It's very obvious they're goingto stick with that.

Brandon Hurles (01:53:07):
Well, no, I mean the two ports.
You got two USB-C ports.

Mark Trobough (01:53:09):
Oh yeah, I mean to be fair.
They needed extra ports on theactual console itself,
especially if you're trying toplay it in, not docked, but you
want it standing without athird-party plug-in at the
bottom.
Yeah, because the only problemwith that is, if you want to
play it with the stand, youcan't charge it at the same time
.
Right, you can't without havingsome third-party stand that

(01:53:31):
allows you to plug in from theside.

Brandon Hurles (01:53:32):
Having that additional USB-C port opens up a
whole world of possibilitiesfor like accessories and stuff.
Yeah, just add-ons in general.
So yeah, I mean you've got thatactual NVIDIA chip there and so
, like I I don't see this.
I am noticing, actually,looking in, zooming in real
close, there's actually somebodyblurred some stuff on the

(01:53:55):
NVIDIA chip If you zoom in on it.
There's actually somebodyintentionally blurred some stuff
on the NVIDIA chip.
I'm not sure what they blurred,but you can see it there.
There's two spots that areblurred.

Mark Trobough (01:54:07):
That looks like it's like a, that could be like
a serial number or somethinglike that.
That could be something thatcould be used to trace it why it
was blurred.
Because, a lot of stuff isproperly numbered and they know
what stuff was ran through whatassembly line or something like
that.
If that is what was blurred out, that's why it was blurred out,
to make it harder to trace backto who it was.

(01:54:28):
Some numbers on some hardware.
It's the same across the board.
It's just a.

Brandon Hurles (01:54:32):
Well, that's what I would think.
It would be the same on everychip.

Mark Trobough (01:54:37):
If it's a serial number that's unique to that
specific chip.
Each chip is going to have itsown serial number and stuff like
that.

Brandon Hurles (01:54:42):
What I want to know is how.
I mean, if it's in the factory,then obviously it's.
It's easily accessible.
Somebody just got to walk awayand take pictures real quick and
then put it back.

Mark Trobough (01:54:52):
That's all it takes not the easiest, but it's
possible yeah it's very possiblebecause happened with the ps5
pro happened.

Brandon Hurles (01:54:59):
I don't know if you remember, but the the there
are a bunch of accurate uh weeksfor the ps5 when it came out
and like yeah, a bunch of leakscame out about all the specs.
They were accurate.
The specs were accurate for thePS5 Pro.
This stuff is just coming outearly.
People know that they can getsome clout or whatever by

(01:55:19):
posting this stuff.
I always wonder what are yougetting out of leaking this out?
But I guess it's just cloutFake internet cl cloud points.
Yeah, apparently I don't know.

Mark Trobough (01:55:31):
Or they're like oh well, nintendo won't announce
it, I will myself, I mean youforget about the person one week
later.

Brandon Hurles (01:55:37):
So I don't get the point.
But it is interesting and givesus something to talk about.
But one thing I noticed if youlook at the picture with the
Nintendo Switch cart in, if youzoom in on it, you can see where
there's a little notch to theleft where potentially the

(01:55:59):
Switch 2 cart might do what the3DS cart did where it had a tab
on it, so it doesn't fit into aDS.
They might be doing the samesort of thing for the Switch 2.

Mark Trobough (01:56:10):
To prevent the backwards.
That would make sense.

Brandon Hurles (01:56:14):
There's a little space there where that cart
could be.

Mark Trobough (01:56:19):
I think you'd need to for games.
That would only be for theSwitch 2.
You don't want people to plugit into a Switch, it just not
works.
My guess is they're going to dothe little tab thing where it
prevents it from going into theswitch it's a pretty simple,
simple thing to do, yeah, yeah,I mean, it's just a little piece
of plastic, that's all it isthere's nothing like the let's
the switch cartridge in, but itbut the switch to only goes into

(01:56:39):
this one specifically, just theway that the cart is designed
right yeah, which makes sense,makes total sense there uh, they
like that.
They have plenty of practicewith that with their handhelds.

Brandon Hurles (01:56:50):
Yeah, for sure.
So it looks like the last thingthat we got is a rumor.

Mark Trobough (01:56:56):
Yeah, so this is a rumor that specifically,
breath of the Wild maypotentially get a Switch 2
upgrade.
So this game specifically willget like what they're doing with
the PS5 Pro.
Certain games are gettingupgrades for the actual hardware
.
There's rumors that Breath ofthe Wild will specifically have
a Switch 2 upgrade and sinceit'll look better and play

(01:57:16):
better on the Switch 2.

Brandon Hurles (01:57:19):
Man, I really hope they do this for Tears of
the Kingdom, because I haven'tbeat it yet and I would love to
have an upgrade for that.
It seems weird to only do itfor Breath of the Wild.

Mark Trobough (01:57:30):
It also could be.
It's easier for an older likethis could be like potentially a
tech demo they were doing,whether it actually gets
released or not.
But if, like, if this is anactual, true thing, I imagine a
lot of first-party Nintendogames you know, zelda games,
mario games and stuff like thatwill get the same treatment for
the Switch too.
Yeah, and if they're going todo this, it would make more
sense that it's the samecartridge but when you plug it

(01:57:52):
in you get some kind of downloadthat then upgrades it for the
Switch 2.
Yeah, that would make the mostsense for me and be the most
financially viable than justreprinting cartridges with a
slight upgrade on them.
Yeah, this could also just be arumor they were just using they
could have just been usingbreath of wild as like a tech
demo for the new hardwarebecause there was rumors about

(01:58:12):
that.

Brandon Hurles (01:58:13):
There was a 4k breath of the wild out there
where they were showcasing it onthe the switch switch to the
show what it was capable ofdoing.
Um, so yeah, I mean, I, I couldsee that.
Do you think it's possible thatwe get that games get upscaled
like Switch 1, games getupscaled on the Switch 2, or do

(01:58:34):
you think they're just going toplay like they normally would on
Switch 1?

Mark Trobough (01:58:38):
If they do, or could it be like?

Brandon Hurles (01:58:40):
sporadic, if it gets patches or something like
that.

Mark Trobough (01:58:44):
I think it's up to the game developer.
I mean, obviously all the gameswould look and play better just
having better hardware.
As far as actual properupgrades, that's going to be up
to what Nintendo wants to do andwhat studios they want to do it
with.
To be fair, yeah, it obviouslyrequires the developer going
back and doing extra work withthe game and stuff like that.

(01:59:04):
Right, I'm sure some gamesmight get it Like first-party
Nintendo work with the game andstuff like that.
I'm sure some games might getit.
First party Nintendo gameswould be the first, like a Zelda
or a Mario would make the mostsense to get it first.
But I mean, at the end of theday, you hope to see it but it's
kind of hard to know I'm tryingto pull some stuff up.

Brandon Hurles (01:59:21):
Are you able to check some of the comments, see
if we got any comments?
I'm trying to pull this up herereal quick, yeah.

Mark Trobough (01:59:29):
What's the other one?
Mr Goff said Nintendo Ahabscaling over PSSR.
Joshua over on the Facebooksaid what's up?
Y'all, mr Goff, or if you'regetting all the leaks when
Nintendo was gearing up toannounce the Switch and all the
leaks were wrong every time?
I don't know.
I have to talk to you.

(01:59:50):
I wasn't paying attention to theSwitch announcement so I do not
know for sure.
I'd have to double check withBrad on that one, unless someone
has an actual board on hand.
But it's easy to generate andcreate anything through Unreal.
It could be fake for all weknow.
But yeah, I mean take it with agrain of salt, because it's not
like every single leak that youget is always wrong.

(02:00:11):
Some of them are accurate, soit's always a possibility.
Oh gosh, would I miss thePokemon stuff?
Yeah, it was like right beforewe got into the Switch stuff, we
were talking about Pokemon fora little bit.
So, yeah, I guess it comes downto.
I mean, you have, it's a leak,so you always take it with a
grain of salt, but it's it'skind of hard to tell, obviously
once the actual announcementcomes out.

(02:00:31):
Some of these leaks are goingto be wrong and some are going
to be right, yeah, it's justyou'd have to go back and double
check and see for sure yeah,for sure I mean until the actual
switch is announced, you'regoing to have people.
You have good and bad leaks allover the place, people you know
making rumors on stuff left andright.
It's just kind of hard to avoid, especially when there's so

(02:00:52):
much anticipation.
At this point, everyone's justlike why is it not announced yet
?
At this point I mean to be fair, based off their original
timeline, you have until Marchto announce it.
In the next three monthsthey're going to announce it by
you in the next three months.
They're gonna announce it byMarch.
When are they gonna announce it?
Are they really gonna wait tillMarch to announce this thing
and they announce it in March?
You just feel like a fallrelease is a August-September

(02:01:15):
release.
Windows are realistic at thatpoint.
That's how I look at it.

Brandon Hurles (02:01:19):
Yeah, I wonder one thing I was wondering do you
think that they'll do any bringover, Because they could
essentially sell?
I've heard a couple of things.
I've heard that one Breath ofthe Wild will get a patched

(02:01:40):
version that's free for Switch 2, but then I've also heard that
they'll bring it over as a newgame in 4K, Like release it as
its own thing.

Mark Trobough (02:01:52):
I think they could probably do it both ways.
I would believe, the more thefree update making a lot more
sense than rebuying a game justto have it look better, yeah,
and then be easier to sell Forsure.
Especially like if you'retrying to get people to buy the
switch to, why force them to buya new game when it's just like,
oh well, you know, here's afree upgrade.

(02:02:14):
If you buy the switch to,essentially as a way to
incentivize sales, for theswitch to essentially did you
say Joshua was in here?
yeah, restream was bringing himhis comments over from via
facebook.
Oh gotcha, okay cool, all right.

Brandon Hurles (02:02:32):
Um, let's see.
Did we miss any comments?
Oh, we got a super chat.
Uh, palmer froggy guy said willyou buy switch one day, one to
cover on the?
I think they meant switch to tocover on channel.

Game Junction (02:02:47):
I mean I, I know, I am for sure, I think you're.

Mark Trobough (02:02:50):
I'm assuming you can get your hands on it.
Yeah, we can get our hands onit, that's a no-brainer.

Brandon Hurles (02:02:53):
Yeah, we can get our hands on it.
We'll have to see.
I mean, that's a whole video inand of itself.
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, supposedly, you knowthe delay may be that they're
ramping up production so thatthat doesn't happen.
But yeah, I guess you knowwe'll, we'll have to see what,
what happens, but I'lldefinitely be trying.
I know you'll be trying, sowe'll, we'll see whoever.

(02:03:15):
I guess whoever gets a firstcan do a video, even just, you
know, an unboxing video, andthen do an impressions video or
something like that I mean.

Mark Trobough (02:03:23):
I definitely appreciate the super chat.
For sure, yeah, for sure.
And then we got Joshua saidSorry, I just wanted to shout it
out.
It was the official.
The very first super chat onGame Junction over on the
YouTube.

Brandon Hurles (02:03:36):
Oh, we got a super chat yesterday, I think.
When it says one, that meansit's their first super chat.

Mark Trobough (02:03:43):
Oh sorry, at the very least that was Palmer's
first super chat.

Brandon Hurles (02:03:49):
Well, it's the first one that I've seen, so it
was the first of me.
We got Joshua saying over thereon Facebook he said and try to
join podcast lives more had somestuff happening that had me
different and holidays had mealso busy.
Hours-long video on it.
And Mr Coffee said I can't waitto snatch an OLED Switch for
$100.
Yeah, hopefully I'm sure priceswill drop on those and stuff

(02:04:11):
like that, even for like alightly used one.

Mark Trobough (02:04:13):
At the very least , you'll probably find one
pretty cheap once the Switch 2comes out.

Brandon Hurles (02:04:16):
The Switch OLED is awesome.
I mean OLED screens.
I don't know what yourexperience is with OLED, but
I've got two OLED monitors Nowbecause of the Switch OLED, I
fell in love with OLED so muchthat I got two OLED monitors.
I mean just, it's like a nightand day difference from LCD.
So I'm a big fan.
But did you have anything elseyou wanted to bring up?

Mark Trobough (02:04:40):
No, I think that we pretty much hit most
everything else, and we're rightaround.
We're just over two hours, soAlright, well, we've got.
I guess that half hour of the20 minute tangent we went on
worked out perfectly.
What were we talking about?

Brandon Hurles (02:04:55):
Nothing military stuff.

Mark Trobough (02:04:57):
Oh man yeah for sure I don't remember how we
went down that rabbit hole.
It was a thing I don't remembereither but hey, that's what
happens.

Brandon Hurles (02:05:04):
That's the good stuff with the podcast.
Yeah, it is good stuff we havegot got for people watching live
.
Sorry, audio listeners.
We are live every Saturday at 8pm Eastern Standard Time
streaming a different game everyweek, so this week we are
streaming Warhammer right.

Mark Trobough (02:05:24):
Or did we just Okay, we are streaming Warhammer
yeah pretty sure you can waitfor it before you get the game.

Brandon Hurles (02:05:28):
Okay, cool.
So we're streaming WarhammerSpace Marine 2.
And then I think next weekwe're going to try to do the
community stream.
I think we'll probably justroll for the first one with
Marvel Rivals, just because itwas brought up yesterday.
It was brought up before whenyou were streaming, it was
brought up before when you werestreaming and it's free to play,
so it's just easily accessible.

(02:05:49):
So I think we'll do that first.
But I think we have in thebooks that we're going to do
Smash Bros, mario Kart, call ofDuty.
You're reluctant on Fortnite,but I'm just trying to think of
games that everybody can play.
That's easy for everybody.
So if you got any suggestions,let us know.
We're definitely open tosuggestions for community

(02:06:09):
streams.
I'm sure there's plenty ofstuff that we don't know about,
so definitely let us know onthat.
And then Sunday we've got theAnime Junction cast dropping,
which will be recording tomorrow.
We've got to get ahead on thatagain, by the way, because I was
worried last week with whathappened.
I didn't know if I was going tomake it in time.

(02:06:29):
I was like we were ahead onthat and then we quickly got not
ahead.
What was it again?
Sorry, no, we need to get aheadon recording those again, like
be a few episodes ahead in caseemergencies like that happen,
because I almost didn't think Iwas going to make it in time to
record and we were like threeepisodes ahead and now we're not
ahead at all.

Mark Trobough (02:06:50):
We were never more than one episode ahead.

Brandon Hurles (02:06:52):
Yes, we were.

Mark Trobough (02:06:53):
I mean, I intentionally brought us back to
the same week.

Brandon Hurles (02:06:54):
No, we started when we started, we were ahead.

Mark Trobough (02:06:58):
But I mean, the nature of what we're trying to
do is kind of hard to get aheadand stuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (02:07:03):
Not really, because we watch.
How long is it going to takeyou to watch Gundam?
It's going to take a little bit.

Mark Trobough (02:07:12):
I'm just saying the amount of time it takes to
watch some of these shows theway we've been doing it.
I'm content with the way it'sgoing right now.

Brandon Hurles (02:07:18):
Yeah, as long as stuff doesn't come up, things
happen.
But yeah, we got that droppingsometime on Sunday.
And then, of course, for ouraudio listeners, we are live on
YouTube and Twitch every Fridayat 8 pm Eastern Standard Time
with the podcast.
Definitely, come hang out withus live.

(02:07:39):
It's a lot of fun.
Go on random tangents, you canhang out with us in the comments
and then anything else to add.
Mark.

Mark Trobough (02:07:48):
No, I think that's everything.

Brandon Hurles (02:07:49):
Alright.
Well, we appreciate everybodywatching.
Thanks again, and we'll be backlive again tomorrow.
We'll see you all later.
Peace out, everybody.
See you tomorrow.
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