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What if the world of gaming was as fast-paced and unpredictable as politics? This week's episode takes you on a gaming news rollercoaster, with headlines rivaling any election cycle. From Nintendo's latest innovations to the thrilling unveiling of Dragon Age: Veiled Guard, we leave no stone unturned. Get ready for a ride through the Monster Hunter beta, the reveal of Mortal Kombat 1, and tantalizing updates on beloved franchises like Xenoblade and Godzilla. 

Our nostalgia gears up as we look forward to the exciting lineup of Nintendo Switch releases. Imagine a LEGO Horizon Adventure on your Switch, where PlayStation meets Nintendo in a crossover that breaks new ground. With the promise of Dragon Quest III HD 2D remake and Mario and Luigi Brothership, December has never looked brighter for gamers. But it's not all fun and games—serious discussions unfold as we examine Sweet Baby Inc.'s alliance with the PAL group and its implications for the gaming industry's future.

Inclusion and innovation are at the forefront of today's gaming landscape. We question the sincerity of corporate DEI initiatives, ponder their financial motivations, and explore the impact on the industry and its audience. The Xenoblade Chronicles remaster stirs debate, but fans remain excited about its Switch debut. As we wrap up, we dive into the world o

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Brandon Hurles (00:00):
Hey, what's up everybody?
How's it going, Mark?

Mark Trobough (00:04):
That's going pretty good as we speak at the
same time.

Brandon Hurles (00:07):
Yeah, I apologize for any live viewers.
Just want to let you know wedid have an emergency, so we are
a little bit late, quite a bitlate, almost an hour.
So apologies about that for ourlive viewers.
Unfortunately, this one wasunavoidable and had nothing to
do with the podcast or techissues or anything like that.
So I apologize, but we'll goahead and get started.
We've got a pretty big week ingaming, mark.

Mark Trobough (00:30):
Feels like that most weeks there's always some
kind of news.
Especially it's fall, A lot ofgames are coming out and stuff
like that, so there's alwayssomething to talk about.

Brandon Hurles (00:39):
Dude, there's more news in gaming.
Look, let me see how you feel.
There's more news in gamingevery week than there is in
anything else besides politics.
Yeah, seriously, I mean, thepolitics are 24-7, but the
gaming news never stops.

Mark Trobough (00:58):
No, because there's always something coming
out year-round, Whether it'spositive negative.

Brandon Hurles (01:03):
We're getting insights into certain companies'
antics.

Mark Trobough (01:08):
I just want to say, because I know next week's
the election, so hopefully atleast some of the advertising
nightmare goes away.
Oh my god.

Brandon Hurles (01:15):
Listen to this.
Sherrod Brown fights for you.
I get those stupid ads all thetime.

Mark Trobough (01:22):
But A because Mr Coffey brought up it's like A,
you're in the fall, so you're inthe heat of football season
right now.

Brandon Hurles (01:27):
Yeah that's going on too.

Mark Trobough (01:29):
Jets just won Thursday Night Football and I
don't really care for the JetsPlayoff's about to come up.

Brandon Hurles (01:35):
I don't care about NFL.
I'll be honest with you.
I just like NCAAs.
Trash, cool, cool, trash.
You watch NFL.

Mark Trobough (01:45):
No, I follow.
I'm out of market for my team.
I can't watch the Dolphins, ohmy God.
Out here, out west.
That's an impossibility.
I'm not paying that extrahundred-some dollars for what's
it?
Nfl ticket.
Ungodly amounts of money.
It's crazy.

Brandon Hurles (02:00):
And people still go.

Mark Trobough (02:02):
That's the thing Stadiums are still filled and
man crazy and people still go.

Brandon Hurles (02:08):
That's the thing .
Stadiums are still filled andman in this economy, you know,
more power to you I?
Yeah, no doubt so.
Uh, this week we're gonna betalking a little bit about.
Uh, actually that is old andfrom last week, so I guess I
can't really give you some ofthe episode because, uh, I mean
I guess there's some stuff,because we had some news about
the nintendo music app.

Mark Trobough (02:25):
God forbid they give us anything about the
Switch 2.
I downloaded it.
I can speak on it a little bit,yeah, more than I have.
Obviously, there's some morePokemon leaks and information
that came out this week as well.
Dragon Age just launched todayas well, as we also had the demo
for the.
I just had it pulled up here ina second no, did the dragon

(02:47):
monster hunter.
Wilds didn't launch, it's just abeta right yeah, so you had
both the dragon age veiled guardlaunch this week as far as the
beta launch this week for themonster hunter, which I think is
going from the 31st to the 4th,yeah, and then I guess, the

(03:09):
last one, some Mortal Kombat.
You know one information, justbecause you put that on the
thumbnail as well, yeah, and awhole host of other.

Brandon Hurles (03:17):
I didn't put Mortal Kombat 1 on the thumbnail
, you totally did that's notMortal Kombat 1.

Mark Trobough (03:24):
That's from Dead by Daylight, no because Mortal
Kombat 1 had the revealed ghostface and it was the same oh, I'm
an idiot.

Brandon Hurles (03:33):
I'm such an idiot.

Mark Trobough (03:36):
I did put that you're right yeah, and then a
whole host of other stuff.
Like we have some moreXenoblade information coming out
I don't know if he's going tobe in the chat right like we've
had some more more Xenobladeinformation coming out I don't
know if he's going to be in thechat right now.
We actually had some Godzillanews drop this week I think it
was today, today or yesterday sowe at least have a small little
thing that we can talk about.
It and a whole host of otherstuff.
Of course, there's some minorUbisoft, because they can't just

(03:59):
stay out of the spotlight for aweek.
You know, firewalk Studioclosed.
There's a whole host of stuffto talk about.

Brandon Hurles (04:08):
Yeah, for sure.
We've got a lot of stuff.
Looks like it's going to be abig episode.
I guess we'll go ahead and getstarted First.
We got Shadows of the Damnedhella remastered you sent this
to me earlier in the week.

Mark Trobough (04:24):
Yeah, that's why I pulled it up, because I found
something on there I think itmay have been like Grums or
something like that.
On X posted this in regards to,you know, the Dragon Age drama
and stuff that we'll get tolater in the episode, but I
swore you mentioned this was agame.
I didn't even know this gameexisted before.
I loved this game because we sawa clip where it was definitely

(04:46):
the, because I think it made thecomment like oh, edgy games
making a comeback.
And the clip I saw definitelywas edgy, because it's
essentially some half-nakedchick that you eventually have
to walk over to get from onedoor to the other or something
like that.

Brandon Hurles (04:58):
Yeah, but the thing is with this game is
there's no game like it exactly.

Mark Trobough (05:06):
I never played the original.
Do you know when thisoriginally launched?

Brandon Hurles (05:08):
Because this remastered in 2011.
Maybe I'm just guessing here.
Let me see.

Mark Trobough (05:16):
Because this remastered and I didn't realize
it until I saw it like two daysago on Twitter or something like
that this remastered actuallylaunched on Halloween yesterday
2011.

Brandon Hurles (05:26):
Oh my god, I was right 2011.
June 21st 2011.

Mark Trobough (05:30):
It looks like that game.
So this game's been out forlike a day or something like
that.
It's sitting at 85% reviews onSteam Dude.
I'm buying it, at least forSteam, because I don't know what
other console it's going to beon.
On Steam it's $25.

Brandon Hurles (05:43):
If it's on a console I'll buy it, not to say
I don't want to play it on PC,but it's like Sorry, but I'm not
going to buy a PC game, unlessit's a GOG or Steam deal.
I'm just not.
It's $25.

Mark Trobough (05:57):
To be fair, you can add controller support on it
.

Brandon Hurles (05:59):
I'd rather pay $25 to play it on console,
though.

Mark Trobough (06:03):
At that point, what's the difference?

Brandon Hurles (06:05):
Because I like console, I like collecting games
.

Mark Trobough (06:09):
I don't even know if this is a physical.
If it's digital only, what'sthe point?

Brandon Hurles (06:13):
It'll one-harvesting get a physical,
whether it's through limited runor limited print games or
something, it'll get a physical.
But I will say this this gameis awesome and I will say I
played it again in 2020, and theoriginal version still holds up
just as well.
It holds up great.
So to see that it's gettingthis remaster where it actually

(06:35):
looks I'm looking at actualgameplay footage and it actually
looks like a remaster.

Mark Trobough (06:41):
Yeah, they actually put work.
You can still tell the designand some other stuff.
It's from that era, but itactually looks like it had a
proper coat of paint put on itor it doesn't just look like a
cheap port of a game.
It doesn't look like a 2011game straight up yeah, it
doesn't.

Brandon Hurles (06:55):
It looks really good.
Is this something that youwould play?

Mark Trobough (06:59):
uh, I mean, I seriously look into it, for sure
, yeah it looks great.

Brandon Hurles (07:02):
So, uh, it looks like new content unique to the
remaster for all new costumes.
Get dressed to the nines andkick some demon tail and style
after your first playthrough,carry over your progress in the
new game plus and spend aneternity raising hell in the
underworld.

Mark Trobough (07:19):
Uh, and the one thing that makes this game, I
would assume, a little harderfor streaming, but this is gochi
suta.

Brandon Hurles (07:26):
So they did no more heroes, killer 7, all that
stuff.
And then shinji mikami workedon it, who worked on resident
evil and god hand.

Mark Trobough (07:34):
All of those games are classics, all of those
certified, but I just did wantto put it out there for those
that don't know.
This is a mature content.
The disclaimer they put on herethis game may contain content
not appropriate for all ages ormay not be appropriate for
viewing at work, not safe forwork, essentially frequent
violence or gore, depiction ofsuicide, nudity and sexual

(07:55):
contents, use of alcohol andgeneral mature content is the
actual description via the Steampage wow, this is the first
game I've ever seen where itsays that the recommended memory
be 32 gigabytes of RAM.
I see the recommended.
It says 16 gigabytes of RAM.
Where are?

Brandon Hurles (08:17):
you looking at?

Mark Trobough (08:19):
On the Steam system requirements.
I'm not on Steam, oh okay,because the recommended is what?
Intel i5-6700 16 gigabytes ofRAM for the memory, the graphics
.
Gtx 960 Ti 2 gigabytes for theADR.

Brandon Hurles (08:35):
Who's still using a 960 Ti?

Mark Trobough (08:38):
Well, it just shows that this game doesn't
need a lot of memory to run.

Brandon Hurles (08:42):
No, it definitely doesn't.

Mark Trobough (08:44):
Pretty much a potato can run.

Brandon Hurles (08:45):
This game is what it's saying.

Mark Trobough (08:48):
But no, it does say.

Brandon Hurles (08:49):
I do see memory 32 gigabytes RAM but it does say
processor Intel Core i5-6700,amd Ryzen 5 1500X.
Maybe I'm seeing somethingdifferent than you.

Mark Trobough (09:01):
Storage 5 gigabytes, so your computer
should be able to run this atmax settings.

Brandon Hurles (09:04):
Yeah, for sure.

Mark Trobough (09:06):
My 1080T, my 1060Ti or 1070Ti that I used to
have could run this at maxsettings.

Brandon Hurles (09:11):
I can't tell you the last time I heard somebody
say 960Ti Jesus, there'ssomebody out there using it.

Mark Trobough (09:19):
Oh 100%.

Brandon Hurles (09:21):
But yeah, that's really really cool.
I'm really excited about this.
This is a great start of thepodcast, something I'm really
looking forward to.
Definitely has a real remastertreatment to it so you can tell
like it has obviously thataesthetic from 2011, but it
looks better like the actualboth.
The story beats where it's inlike a shown a story part looks

(09:43):
better, but also the game.
The gameplay beats where it'sin like a shown a story part
looks better.
Yeah, but also the game.
The gameplay is where it shines.
The gameplay really looksbetter.
So I'm definitely excited and Ilove to kick demon ass.
Let me tell you, I play a lotof doom.

Mark Trobough (09:57):
Hey, all I'm going to say is it's a good,
it's the design of the early2010s, late, late twos, but the
graphical fidelity of 2015 to2020 or something like that.

Brandon Hurles (10:11):
Yeah, I love who is hosting the podcast today.
Thanks a lot.
Oh, you just saw that I justsaw that.

Mark Trobough (10:19):
I put that earlier, trying to get it right.
I think you were distracted.

Brandon Hurles (10:22):
No, I was distracted, all right, so we
also got upcoming games 2024 forconsole and PC so yeah, I threw
this in there.

Mark Trobough (10:30):
Obviously we know the Dragon Age Veilguard
dropped yesterday.

Brandon Hurles (10:33):
I'm so excited to play that game too.

Mark Trobough (10:35):
I literally cannot wait so did the Horizon
Zero Dawn remastered both ofthose a little bit more in depth
later, and stuff like that,because of course there's drama
with everything, even theremastered yeah, of those a
little bit more in depth laterand stuff like that, because of
course there's drama witheverything in the remastered,
yeah, of course.
But I brought this on herebecause obviously there's games
coming out last two months ofthe year, the final stretch,
nothing really about Decemberjumped out to me.
Obviously you've got theIndiana Jones game coming out.

Brandon Hurles (10:57):
It's the month games go to die.
Nobody releases stuff on.
I can't believe Indiana,Speaking of which I've seen a
few reports of people sayingthat Indiana Jones is great,
Like I've seen three or fourreports from separate people,
separate entities, all sayingthe game is really good.

Mark Trobough (11:14):
It doesn't have the best launch window of
December, it just doesn't have agood launch month.

Brandon Hurles (11:17):
But that might be good for us because there's
nothing coming out in December.
So it's like, okay, then we canjust focus on this game.
You know, get there's nothingcoming out in December, it's
like, okay, then we can justfocus on this game, get through
this game.
I think a 15 to 20 hour gamethat's not bad.
That should get us through themonth.
You like Indiana Jones, atleast the old ones like me.

(11:37):
It's supposed to be centeredaround that, indiana Jones of
the last crusade and stuff likethat.
You know all the good stuff.

Mark Trobough (11:49):
So I mean obviously, to be fair.
I thought it was funny, atleast what stood out to me.
I'm sure it's going to besimilar with you.
The only two major games thatcome out the rest of the year
and they come out November justboth happen to be switch games.
So you have, to a lesser degree, me, more you, mario and Luigi
Brothership, which comes out onthe 7th, which is next week

(12:09):
actually.

Brandon Hurles (12:10):
Yeah, I'm grabbing that next week for sure
.

Mark Trobough (12:12):
And then the following week, on the 14th, is
when we finally get the DragonQuest III HD 2D remake.

Brandon Hurles (12:17):
Grabbing that right away too.
I can't wait to play throughthat.

Mark Trobough (12:20):
I think Nintendo's got a decent lineup
to close the year out.

Brandon Hurles (12:24):
Yeah, I will mention also because there's a.
I'm also interested in LEGOHorizon Adventures.
Here's the reason I'minterested in that.
I want to grab that on Switchbecause it's weird that a
PlayStation property is beingput on Switch, so it's kind of
like a come full circle thing,where it may never happen again

(12:44):
and it could, down the road, endup being worth money.
I don't care about that, butit's more the novelty of playing
a PlayStation property onNintendo.
Yeah, and I like the.
Lego games.

Mark Trobough (12:56):
I'm not like an Uber fan, where I played them
all, but I like them for whatthey are and this is supposed to
be the open world most in-depthLEGO game we've gotten yet yeah
, I think this has more to dowith it just being a
LEGO-related game and it's not aflagship and I highly doubt
they're expecting it to make acrap ton of money.

(13:17):
But I doubt a lot of money wentinto it.

Brandon Hurles (13:20):
I also do want to mention in December we
actually do have a couple ofgood things Fantasia, neo
Dimension We've talked aboutthat.
You said you were interested init.

Mark Trobough (13:29):
That's a JRPG.
The name didn't really jump offthe board to me.

Brandon Hurles (13:31):
Yeah, that's a JRPG that I'm for sure
interested in.
And then Legacy of Kain, soulReaver 1 and 2 Remastered.
I'll definitely be getting that.
I love the Legacy of Kain games, absolute classics.
But other than that, lookingthrough here, I mean you've also
got Crosswired Slitherhead,microsoft Flight Simulator 2024,

(13:54):
life is Strange, doubleExposure.
None of those mean anything tome necessarily, but yeah.
I guess we can move on to thefirst of the controversial
things, real quick.

Mark Trobough (14:14):
So this was kind of apparently for those that
actually care to some degreewith this, sweet Baby Inc was
partnering with what they callthe PAL group to you group to
continue pushing or continuedoing their consulting business.

Brandon Hurles (14:33):
On its own.

Mark Trobough (14:33):
It doesn't mean a whole lot, unless you're the
Sweet Baby Inc CEO, which hatesattractive women but has a thing
for Bowser.
Apparently.

Brandon Hurles (14:44):
It's weird oh my gosh.
There are like 15 podcasts liveright now.
It's a.

Mark Trobough (14:52):
Friday night.
It is what it is, but I meanthis really only means to people
they're looking as far as likeconsulting businesses, so I mean
it's another consultingbusiness.
The pow group essentially hasthe same intention that sweet
baby does, less well known, butever since sweet baby came to
light it's put a lot of theseconsulting groups under scrutiny

(15:15):
.
Sweet baby is just the mostrecognizable for a lot of people
who don't like the, the, theideology that these people tend
to push in games and stuff likethat.
But what is their ultimate goal?

Brandon Hurles (15:27):
Let me ask you what like what is sweet baby
being ultimate goal?
What are they?

Mark Trobough (15:34):
actually trying to do?
Inclusion in video games?
Simple as that.
What does that even mean?
Straightforward diversity,equity and inclusion, which is
kind of redundant.
Yes, that's what DEI stands forokay, so I don't get it.

Brandon Hurles (15:59):
I mean, here's my problem with it.
You're talking about inclusion,but inclusion has always been
in things.
I mean you think back toPokemon, the animated series.
You got Brock who's abrown-skinned fella.

Mark Trobough (16:15):
Yeah, so there's two ways you can look at this.
One it's One of the things isyou have to have XM.
It's kind of like a two,two-pronged thing, like you
can't move a little bit.
Uh, it's the forced per.
You have to have so much ofeach thing.
That way you emit like dei andin esg and other stuff like that

(16:36):
.
What's esg mean?
Uh, what if I I'm trying topull this up uh, environmental,
social and governance is whatthat stands for okay uh, it's
because it's kind of like alateral for for dei and stuff
like that.
As far as you know, you got tobe like, you know, sustainable

(16:57):
and look out for the future andstuff like that.
Uh, that kind of crap.
That's the way I look at it.
Um, but it's, it's doing thatto some degree.
It, you know, it looks good onpaper to investors and they try
to advertise as oh, we work withus, we're going to make your
game look better, it's going tosell more people, while we
charge you like 10 milliondollars on the side, so we can
also get rich I just learnedthat there's a dei score for

(17:21):
conglomerates, yeah, so there'slike an esg and stuff like which
is supposed to be used forother corporations and it's
supposed to be good foradvertisers.
As much crap as it realisticallyis.
I heard this story today, at theend of the day, while there's
employees that believe in theleft-wing ideology that's being
pushed, because that's reallywhere it stems from, regardless
of what you actually view it on.
This comes from the left sideof the aisle, politically, at

(17:44):
least in the U?
S.
But a lot of this other thingsis these to be fair, the heads
of these companies, peopleactually making decision A lot
of them probably don't reallycare all that much.
It's just being sold as a wayof like oh, you can broaden your
more people are going to buyyour game, so you always have
your core audience.
Why advertise to them?

(18:04):
But now you can market to adifferent audience and you're
going to make more money andthat's kind of how it's sold.
And while there's people in thestudios that actually push this,
at the end of the day it's justseen at the highest level why
they actually use them.
Because it's advertised as away to be oh, it's advertiser
friendly.
You're going to make more moneyand you know money at the end
of the day, is really all thatmatters.
That's why people say hey, youdon't like types of games.

(18:25):
You speak with your wallet, notyour voice, because at the end
of the day you can say you hatesomething all you want, but if
the game still sells, you knowthere's no bite to your bark.
Essentially, if you want a typeof thing to change in the game
industry, you essentially needgames to fail.
That way you force a change,because financial failure is the

(18:45):
only way You're really going toget anything to move forward.

Brandon Hurles (18:49):
Yeah, I just, I guess I don't.

Mark Trobough (18:50):
It's all money at the end of the day.
It's just how you market it.

Brandon Hurles (18:55):
I guess I just don't understand why these
companies feel the need Tointerject this stuff Into video
games and all of these, thesemediums.

Mark Trobough (19:08):
Well, because there's people that believe this
and want to push it and it'sgetting sold in such a way of
like, oh, you have to do this orit looks bad.
Advertisers are going to pullout, you're going to lose money.
They're using money in a fearof losing talent as a way to, to
some degree, scare people intoit, or that's what the head of

(19:28):
Sweet Baby has kind of said inthe past like that.
But it's a mixture of the twothings.
Some people want it and it'sjust being marketed in a way
that's digestible and stuff likethat to corporation heads and
stuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (19:41):
Yeah, it's just absolutely crazy.
It looks like Mr Coffee overthere.
He's not on the youtube, he'son the twitch.
He said the main problem isonce the video games hits the
mainstream, people see ways tocharge these companies the
service because they are big andnow are now run by executives
who aren't gamers yeah, and alot of this also does.

Mark Trobough (20:01):
There's people that believe in it, but they
also see as a way to also makemoney, which is what these
consulting businesses are.

Brandon Hurles (20:06):
It's another way for people just to get rich
doing you know the bare minimumwhile also pushing a certain uh,
a message that they want to seeyou know socially pushed
forward and stuff like that andthen I did want to mention he
also did correct me a little alittle bit this is a little
different, I would say, thanthis, but he also did say that
mlb, the show 22 and 24 came toswitch.

(20:27):
I think it's a little bitdifferent because those are like
universal games, right.

Mark Trobough (20:32):
Those come to everything like they just always
have or at least after a whilethey're easier, if sports games
usually are just easy and youknow they like people most
people don't even know it's asony property.

Brandon Hurles (20:43):
You know what I mean.
People don't even know it's asony property.
You know what I mean?
People don't even know that.
But horizon is like solely asony property yeah, it's more
reckoning.

Mark Trobough (20:52):
Most people see sports game they just think, oh,
it's some generic crap, whichit usually is.
Yeah, almost always, uh, but Iguess, moving on, just because I
didn't want to.
You know mixing the good withthe bad, but you know, negative
news sells, so there alwaysseems to be more negative stuff.
And I don't know this guy, butapparently the epic fantasy

(21:13):
author because that's kind ofwhat he actually does John A
Douglas, came out and at leastthat park play says that he
trashes the Lord of the Rings,the war, the Ruhiram movie or
the.
Apparently there was an originbook pushed before the movie for
the main heroine, hera, soessentially it was a companion

(21:38):
book for the film which wasreleased.
Uh, provides an origin for Heraand stuff like that.
Uh, but he came out and hewhere's it?
At that, they haven't postedwhat he.
So he apparently is the authorof the book the black crown.
Never read it.
Don't know anything about thisguy, don't care.
He's written and published morebooks than I have, so I'll give

(21:58):
him that much.
But he essentially came out andsaid hey, mark, how many have
you published?
That's a fat zero.
But he essentially came out andsays some art for the War of
the Reherum companion book gotreleased and he said this is
like word for word from hisTwitter.
He said that might be the mostcliched.
She's not like other girls'origin.
I've ever read Basic B girlboss.

Brandon Hurles (22:19):
Bear with me, guys, give me just a second
while Mark's talking.

Mark Trobough (22:22):
Yeah, romantically lead character
energy just bleeds, tolkien,doesn't it?
At least when he wrote Elwynn'sarc, it was novel at the time.
Some criticisms.
Don't know exactly how this isgoing to turn out, because this
is a movie I'm looking forwardto, which I'm well for some of
the people involved, as well ashoping it's not Ring of Power

(22:44):
bad, because I didn't care forit.
I, you know, I actually kind ofhated it.
To be honest, I think itbutchers.
Uh, what tolkien does, and Ithink tolkien is a really he
knows what he's doing as far asor when he did because he passed
away a while ago he knew how toactually write proper
characters and, at least for me,some, some of the books that
I've read I don't know, maybeit's just me, for me it's hard

(23:07):
to find an author that actuallysits with me, but I think that's
less of a of a writing thing,just more of what I prefer to
read to some degree with somebooks.
I don't.
I used to read a lot, a lotmore books when I was younger
and in high school and stufflike that.
I don't, it's boring, it's lazy, I'd rather watch a video, but
you know it's criticisms.
He's not the biggest you know,author in the world, I'm still

(23:28):
going to hold out hope that themovie's decent, at the very
least.
It's just, you know, it'sserviceable to some degree.
It doesn't feel like Lord ofthe Rings story.
Yeah, I guess that's part ofthe problem.
Outside of the original movietrilogies we got, everything
else has kind of been subpar asfar as adapting a really good,

(23:49):
well-written story, because eventhe hobbit movies I thought
were largely crap, not complete,terrible.
But it's not at the same levelthat the original lord of the
trilogy was.
And I I still I do think itshould have been like one three
and a half hour long movie whichwould have covered, you know,
the majority of the book, and itshould have been like one three
and a half hour long moviewhich would have covered, you
know, the majority of the bookand it would have been fine.
They just needed, they wantedto make a lot of money, so they

(24:11):
made it.
You know, three whole moviesand stuff like that which I just
I thought wholesale wasunnecessary.
Ooh, I know Brandon's doingsomething.
He's trying to refreshsomething on my end.
Uh, mr Coffee R, I knowBrandon's doing something.
He's trying to refreshsomething on my end.
Mr Coffee.
Ra Salvatore.
I'm not sure what that is.
Check out the Thousand OrcsTrilogy by RA Salvatore.

(24:33):
Yeah, I'll have to check thatout.
Hoping Brandon comes back in asecond I don't know what he's
doing, but I guess we can moveon.
This is something small but Istill plan on definitely going.
I don't know what you all planon doing.
I still plan on going andseeing the movie and hoping it's
at least the Hobbit levelserviceable as far as the movie
goes, because at least that Ican stomach.

(24:55):
Bring a power level crap Iwould.
I would walk out of the theaterinstantly.
But that's, that's just a mething.
But no, back into some actualdecent game news that got
announced this week we areactually getting a Xenoblade
Chronicles X Definitive.

Brandon Hurles (25:10):
Edition.
Hey, what's up?
Intellivision Gamer, it's funny.
I literally just liked your newcover page.

Mark Trobough (25:19):
No, that's definitely always good.
I was trying to make sure Ipulled up as far as branding.
These two things are next toeach other.
So we got this announced.
But, like all things, there'scontroversy around this game.
So the main controversy aroundthis game is this is remastering
and this is the worldwiderelease.

(25:40):
Is it's remastering the USversion of the Wii U game, not
the Japanese version?
And the Japanese, this timearound, are getting the US
version of this game andapparently, back when this game
originally launched, what Iguess the rest of the world and
the Japan version got were twoseparate versions of this game.
I don't know how much level ofwhat you would call censorship

(26:02):
was actually changed, butthere's the criticism that
they're not adapting what peoplewanted, which was the Japanese
version of this game.
But I mean, outside of that, Iassume it was still mostly
well-received.
I have a Wii U.
I have no Wii U games.
I didn't play this game when itlaunched, but I'm still looking

(26:22):
forward to playing the game andhoping for the most part it's.
But I'm still looking forwardto playing the game and hoping
for the most part it's decent.
I don't know if you've heardanything about it or you know
anything about the drama backthen.

Brandon Hurles (26:29):
As far as Xenoblade Chronicles X yeah.

Mark Trobough (26:32):
Obviously there's differences between the US and
the Japanese version, and thedefinitive edition is the US
version that everybody's getting.
They're not doing differentversions for the US and Japan
this time around.

Brandon Hurles (26:44):
I didn't know that there was different
versions.
That was news to me.
I looked a little bit into it.
It doesn't seem like thechanges are major, but it's in
the dialogue, it's in theinteraction with characters.

Mark Trobough (27:00):
Subtle changes that people don't think of
either.

Brandon Hurles (27:02):
I saw a side-by-side for an image of a
need to do.
I saw a side-by-side for animage of a cat, for instance,
right, and you saw this showedthe remastered version, and then
it showed the Wii U version inJapanese, but it was translated.
It was so minimal to me, likewhat was said it wasn't.
I mean, I'm sure that there'sother interactions in the game

(27:25):
where it makes more sense withthe Japanese text and it was
like, hey, let's dumb it downfor the American audience.
But to be honest with you, thisis one of those cases where I
don't think it's that extreme.
To me it's not that big of adeal.

Mark Trobough (27:41):
But at large it doesn't change a whole lot.
And then on the website of, ofthe 4200 people that voted on it
, 53% says this is a day onepurchase.

Brandon Hurles (27:52):
Let me put it this way this is my favorite
Xenoblade Chronicles game forsure, bar none.
I wasn't sure if it was evergoing to come to Switch.
We're at the end of the lifecycle and it's finally come to
switch like my wii u is hookedup for xenoblade, chronicles x,
for, like nintendoland, for youknow, like a couple of the

(28:13):
exclusives, right?
Because I played nintendolandwith my daughter.
She loves it, she lovesnintendoland, it's so much fun.
The reason that's it makes nosense that we haven't gotten
nintend land 2 or a version.
But I mean, like you playednintendo land, right?
I?

Mark Trobough (28:31):
don't know, I don't it was like the, the big
title I played it, I playedbarbara land on the ds.

Brandon Hurles (28:36):
Oh my god, it's not the same thing at all.
So nintendo land is like thisamusement park game where you
get to play through all of thedifferent.
You play as metroid, a metroidgame, so you get to play and
fight metroids.
As samus, you get to play aslink, um and one of the mini
games.
You get to play a luigi'smansion game, um.
There's more, I can't remember.

(28:57):
But oh, there's a mario chaseone that's just super fun.
I mean more fun than it shouldbe.
It's so much fun.
But I never thought that thiswould come to Switch.
I never did.
I've got like 800 hours inXenoblade Chronicles X.
I love the game.
It's bar none for me, the bestXenoblade Chronicles game.

Mark Trobough (29:19):
Yeah, because this is the last one that hasn't
come to.
Switch.
I have all three of those onthe Switch.

Brandon Hurles (29:25):
Yeah, we've got one Definitive Edition on Switch
.
I mean we've got.
The only thing I haven't playedis the Torna DLC that you can
get packed into the game.
It's just very expensive.
It's like $100 now, yeah, butif you get Xenoblade Chronicles
2 plus Torna, I just I'm sorry,I just don't want to shell out
$100 for it.

(29:45):
Now, if I saw it for like $80or something, maybe I would grab
it, but I haven't played theTorna DLC, which apparently is
better than the base game, so Iwill say that.

Mark Trobough (29:58):
Have you played?

Brandon Hurles (29:59):
Xenoblade Chronicles at all.

Mark Trobough (30:01):
I played the first one and I played like an
hour of it.
I need to go.
I want to go back because Ihave all three, but I haven't
played two and three.
It's just one of thoseever-growing shelf of games,
that kind of sit, and I was likeI didn't get around to playing
that game well, it's crazy, as Ibelieve xenoblade chronicles.

Brandon Hurles (30:15):
So here's a crazy thing I believe xenoblade
chronicles on the wii and thenthen proceeded to play it on the
3DS when it was a new 3DS title.
It was one of like 10 new 3DSgames, so I replayed it then and
then I replayed the definitiveedition on Switch.
I played that game three timesand I will say, when it comes to

(30:40):
nostalgia, my memories ofplaying it on the Wii are
greater than any of the othertimes I've played it, because it
was just like this experienceon the Wii that was unlike any
other games we were getting onthe Wii.
Xenoblade Chronicles was sodifferent and it was not like
something you would expect tocome to the Wii.
You know what I mean.
It just wasn't.

(31:00):
And, of course, I had to playwith the Classic Controller Pro.
I wasn't using the Nunchuck tocontrol around.
I mean, not the Nunchuck butthe Wiimote.

Mark Trobough (31:12):
I'm definitely excited for this for sure.
It's not like you have a longwait for this game.
This game comes out on the 20thof March next year.
They also said it's going tohave enhanced visuals, added
story elements and more when itarrives.
I don't know exactly what thatmeans, so outside of a new coat

(31:33):
of paint.
I don't know what they mean bythe added story elements, but I
mean, I guess we'll wait and see.
So I mean, with any luck thisgame will come out right before
the Switch 2 does, but we're inNovember and still no
announcement as far as whenthey're even going to decide to
announce their next console, andstill no announcement as far as
when they're even going todecide to announce their next
console.
I've seen some good memes asfar as that goes, of like oh my
god, when are we getting thenext announcement for the Switch
?
Just people salivating.

Brandon Hurles (31:54):
Yeah, no kidding .

Mark Trobough (31:56):
They're just dragging this out for as long as
possible.
Where's the next one?
Oh yes, we did get some smalllittle information as far as
what's going on with the nextgodzilla film, but essentially
toho came out and said uh, thedirector, uh takashi yamazaki

(32:17):
from godzilla minus one will bedirecting the next toho godzilla
film let me ask you what theheck does this have to do with
video games?
It doesn't, but it's Godzillastuff.
People love to hear it and Iwas a big fan of it For a while.
There we were constantlytalking about Godzilla for like
six, seven podcasts in a row.

Brandon Hurles (32:37):
No, I'm happy about this.
What's your thoughts on it?

Mark Trobough (32:40):
I think it's good because I think he did a really
good job with this film.
I guess my only question isbecause all we got was
essentially yeah, because it'sthis month, if you have a
theater, you're able to rewatchthe minus one in theaters with
added content.
But I think they did a really,really good job with this film.
It's one of the few Godzillafilms where there's actually

(33:01):
well-written characters.
You're just not waiting for themonsters to show up.
But I guess at this point it'sbecause it's probably going to
be a few years at this pointmovie just came out this time
last year.
So if anything, this movie's inearly pre-production where
they're still, they don't evenhave like a script.

Brandon Hurles (33:16):
I think they're probably past that.
If you look at the Godzillacycle of movies, I feel like
they were already working on theother movie before this one
even came out.

Mark Trobough (33:26):
They just came out and announced it.
So at best they have astoryboard and they're currently
working on an actual script.
I'd say at best another two,three years, I would say, before
another film would come out.

Brandon Hurles (33:35):
I wouldn't even give it that far.

Mark Trobough (33:36):
I would say by 2026 we see it, I'd say a
minimum of three years.

Brandon Hurles (33:40):
Early 2026.
That's what I think I guessonly time will tell.

Mark Trobough (33:45):
But then the only thing is are we going to get a
sequel to Minus One, or is itgoing to be a whole?

Brandon Hurles (33:50):
other 100%, 100% .
They're not letting that go thehype train for that is real
it's been announced.

Mark Trobough (33:58):
I guess there's technically like a small spoiler
.
It kind of showed and I giveeveryone enough time to mute or
something real quick before Ispoil the very ending of the
cutscene.

Brandon Hurles (34:08):
Everybody mute.
If you have not watchedGodzilla Minus One Warning if
you are an audio listener, skipahead.
How long, mark?

Mark Trobough (34:17):
It should be a few seconds or something like
that.

Brandon Hurles (34:19):
Skip ahead one minute.

Mark Trobough (34:20):
You know it'd be better safe than sorry.
I don't know how long we'regoing to talk, but at the very
end of the credits it shows that, oh, godzilla is essentially
regenerating.
You remember that cut scene?
when you saw the end, of course,yeah, so it it, and that just
might be a thing they wanted todo with no intention for a
sequel.
But it opens up the possibilitythat they want to come back to
this version of godzilla in thefuture, kind of like the

(34:41):
original godzilla or some of theother variants where he was an
actual villain, they got rid ofhim but obviously he just kind
of comes back, type thing.
So I saw that so I was like, ah, there's a possibility that
they intentionally left the dooropen for a sequel with this
specific Godzilla.
But whether they bring back thesame characters or do something
different, it's, you know, inthe future to some degree, who

(35:04):
knows?

Brandon Hurles (35:05):
I 100% think they're bringing on a villain
into this next Godzilla and Ithink it's going to be probably
let me make sure, just so I'mnot saying the name wrong.

Mark Trobough (35:15):
I guess I'll bring it up, because Mr Coffee
brought up, you know,potentially Jet Jaguar coming in
.

Brandon Hurles (35:20):
Ah no, he's not going to come in.
This is too serious.
Not with this Godzilla.
Ebera is the one that I seecoming in.

Mark Trobough (35:27):
How do you spell that?

Brandon Hurles (35:28):
Ebera, which is the lobster type monster
E-B-I-R-A.
The reason that I think this isbecause it seems like the most.
It seems like it's a smallermonster, it's on the smaller
scale of kaiju and it's a morerealistic one that could be

(35:51):
coming from the ocean.

Mark Trobough (35:53):
um, but does that fit with this version of
Godzilla, where he's not?

Brandon Hurles (35:57):
he's more like the, not the anti-hero, but just
a straight up like it just adestructive doesn't doesn't,
because they could continue onwith Godzilla just being a
menace.
But after three or four filmspeople are going to get tired of
that and that's why theystarted introducing Kaiju
earlier on in the early films,because people got over the fact
.
By the first movie you'realready over the fact of oh,

(36:19):
godzilla is a menace, he'staking down everything.
It's just him.
Like you can't do that for likefive films in a row.
Like you can't just havegodzilla be the menace, you know
, be the only menace I can'tremember was the was the showa
era.

Mark Trobough (36:36):
The original era for godzilla was at the second
era of godzilla, uh the show erais the.

Brandon Hurles (36:41):
Let me just double check.
I think it's the first.

Mark Trobough (36:44):
Because I was just double checking.
Eber originally came out in the1966 film Eber, a Horror of the
Deep.
That's the Showa era.
Yes, Showa era.
The.

Brandon Hurles (36:53):
Godzilla.

Mark Trobough (36:54):
But I didn't know if that was the more villain or
destructive horse of Godzilla,or that's more, where he started
to become like the hero oranti-hero.

Brandon Hurles (37:02):
Yeah, this is show era, so this is when they
started introducing stuff likeMothra Abra.
What is the one monster called?
I think he's called Monster ofthe Deep or something.

Mark Trobough (37:15):
Monster Biollante Okay because I guess there's a
lot of Godzilla films that Ihaven't seen.
But I guess if you could stillmake this work, but Godzilla
still just being a force to bereckoned with.

Brandon Hurles (37:28):
Do you know what I mean?
He's a menace, but he's asmaller menace.
Ebro was introduced relativelyearly on in the Showa era.

Mark Trobough (37:36):
It has to be.
I haven't seen.
I need to go back and watchthis film.

Brandon Hurles (37:39):
I don't remember watching the he's also in the
heyday era, the millennium era,um like makes an appearance in
all of them, okay so, accordingto the wikizilla, he shows up in
the showa millennium and rewaera I thought he was in the
heyday too, but maybe it's ebora.

Mark Trobough (37:55):
Horrors of the deep.
All monsters attack final warsand got god z-ban god z-banam.
It's a Reiwa era film,according to the Wikizilla.

Brandon Hurles (38:07):
The heck is God Z-Bam.
I've never heard of that in mylife.

Mark Trobough (38:14):
But anyway, this is according to the Wikizilla.
So God Z-Bam, apparently inthis it's a monster puppet show.
So everyone played a friendlygame of beach volleyball with
Godzilla-kun, apparently in this, oh, it's a monster puppet show
.
So Ever played a friendly gameof beach volleyball with
Godzilla-kun?
I was about to say bro, whatare you talking about?
This is a puppet show,apparently.
That's why I was confused aboutit.

(38:35):
Yeah, I've never heard of thatone, so apparently there was
four different seasons, from2019 to 2023, for this puppet
show.

Brandon Hurles (38:44):
So I have a $140 action figure of Eberro.
It was like $140.
Yeah, no, eberro's a coolmonster but he gets kind of
undercut as just being a giantshrimp monster.
Essentially he's like a shrimpcrab lobster crossover Obviously

(39:06):
he's a monster.
So he's like a shrimp crab,lobster crossover Obviously he's
a monster.
So it's whatever they want himto be, but he's got the tail of
a shrimp, he's got the front ofa crab or a lobster, he's got
the tentacles of a lobster, buthe's got the hands of a crab.

Mark Trobough (39:25):
I pulled up an image Do you know what film this
is from?
Because it's an image whereit's Ebra, but it's both Mothra
and Godzilla pulling on it fromtwo ends.

Brandon Hurles (39:33):
Let me see.

Mark Trobough (39:33):
Is this from an advertising?

Brandon Hurles (39:37):
So Godzilla Island.

Mark Trobough (39:40):
It popped up on the Wikizilla.
It's like oh, a map of LechieIsland, or something like that.

Brandon Hurles (39:46):
Let me look here , see if I can figure out
Godzilla versus Sea Monster.

Mark Trobough (39:53):
Okay.

Brandon Hurles (39:54):
Yeah.

Mark Trobough (39:55):
Apparently what this monster is from that Lecce
Island.
Yeah, because I should haveMothra.

Brandon Hurles (39:58):
Abra and Godzilla.
Yeah, so that's when I wassaying earlier the Sea Monster
thing.
That's what I was thinkingabout.
Yeah, yeah, so that's when Iwas saying earlier the sea
monster thing.
I was, that's what I wasthinking about.
But, um, yeah, there's so manyGodzilla films, but there,
there's so many of them are alsovery good, you know.
So I had Godzilla vs SeaMonster on VHS back in the day
and I had Godzilla vs MegaGodzilla 1 and 2 on VHS and

(40:21):
there were so many that I had inVHS and that's how I watched
them all and I just watched themover and over and over again.
Um, have you ever heard ofyoung Gary monster from the deep
?

Mark Trobough (40:34):
No, I didn't Please look it up.

Brandon Hurles (40:38):
No, I definitely will Yon Gary, monster from the
deep.
It's hilarious.
So for any of our listenershere he says well, that's why
Godzilla movies came out everyfive years apart or longer, and
that was the only form ofcontent.
So movies and toys.
So back in the days it was okay.

(41:00):
Jet Jaguar needs to be in it.
I like, look A, regardless ofthe hate the Jet Jaguar gets, I
like Jet Jaguar and you gottaremember he was designed by a
kid.
It was from a contest, the kid.
Regardless of the hate that JetJaguar gets, I like Jet Jaguar
and you gotta remember he wasdesigned by a kid.
It was from a contest.
The kid designed him and theybrought him to real life like
how often does that happen?

Game Junction (41:17):
not very often, but I guess I didn't want to
shout out like if you still wantto go see this.

Mark Trobough (41:23):
I don't know how long it's going to be, but
starting today, in certaintheaters, minus one or Godzilla
minus zero was coming back intotheaters.
So if you have the chance torewatch it this weekend, man, go
ahead and check it out.
Yeah, I definitely think it'sworth the film.
We brought that up because backin August I pre-ordered the
Godzilla minus one limitededition steel.

(41:43):
It's expected to arrive on the19th of this month.
I don't even check my tracking,so yeah, I remember seeing stuff
about like oh, you actuallyhave like an arrival date and
stuff like that.
So I guess around Thanksgiving,if I get that definitely.

Brandon Hurles (42:00):
I just have to do a whole video on that one
dude, yes, please yeah not awhole lot of Godzilla content,
but I actually think that fitson the Game Junction channel
because we got so many Godzillafans that follow us here now
because we talk about it so much, Not a whole lot of content all
the time to talk about it, butwhen there's a chance I'll bring
it up when it's relevant.
Yeah, for sure we can't do itwhen people are getting mad and
upset that we're not talkingabout it.

Mark Trobough (42:23):
When there's nothing to talk about At least
for this podcast and stuff likethat.
But I saw it and I was like I'mimmediately grabbing this.

Brandon Hurles (42:30):
Yeah, that's some good stuff.

Mark Trobough (42:30):
But I did see that Young Gary.
It's sitting at what like 15%from the critics on Rotten.

Brandon Hurles (42:35):
Tomatoes.
Yeah, I'll tell you what,though I like these old cheesy
monster films.
I like this stuff though.
I like these old cheesy monsterfilms that you know.
Most of them are reviewed badbecause they're monster flicks.
I mean, if you look back, mostof the Godzilla films are
reviewed bad.
So I mean, that's just the case.

(42:56):
Most of the Godzilla films arenot reviewed good People don't.
They just don't like monsterfilms with people in rebel suits
.
I don't know what the deal is.
There is a charm with that.
There is a charm with it, butnot to the critics.
Roger Ebert, I remember himtalking down to some Godzilla

(43:17):
movie that he watched.
I forget what it was, but RogerEbert, you know what.
I know the guy's dead and I'mbeing respectful or whatever,
but I'm sorry With your reviews,just because you don't like
something, you're keepingmillions of people because he
was the guy right for moviereviews.
He was the guy.
You're keeping millions ofpeople from watching these

(43:40):
movies that they might like.

Mark Trobough (43:42):
Just because you didn't like a certain type of
film doesn't mean other peoplewon't like it.

Brandon Hurles (43:45):
I'm sorry, roll Over in your Grave, whatever,
but it's just like I don't agreewith that.
I'm sorry.
There were so many movies Iwatched that roger ebert, you
know, revaded, reviewed badlylike.

Mark Trobough (43:55):
Not every film needs to be this serious on par
you know.
You know, film like you canhave cheesy fun.
It can be.
It can be cheesy andtechnically be critically bad,
but it can still be an enjoyabletime of a film.
That's what a lot of kaijufilms were and still are.
For the most part, I do like aserious Godzilla film, but I
also like the old cheesy onesbecause it's just an hour and a

(44:16):
half of fun.

Brandon Hurles (44:16):
Not even it's a fun I picked up three Godzilla
things and they're not in thisroom.
I did over here a few pickups.
Hopefully you got a few pickups, but I got a few pickups over
here.
I do not have the Godzillastuff with me, they're in
another room so I'll show themnext week.
But Mark picked up that puzzle.
I picked it up too.
I picked it up too, but I sentyou.
I sent you the.

(44:37):
Did I send you that big,gigantic Funko Pop set where it
had the background of the movieposter with Mothra and Godzilla?
Oh my god, I don't like FunkoPops, but this is beautiful.
This is a beautiful set ifyou're a Godzilla fan.
So I didn't get it there.
But I did find out, macari, forlike $20 less, brand new, so I

(44:59):
ordered it.
I had to, I had to.
That's still on the way, butI'm like you know what?
I don't even care.
I'm redoing this background,I'm working on it.
I've got this side painted overhere that you can't see.
But I'm going to set up alittle, basically kind of have
like a little shrine behind meof gaming stuff, but also like
godzilla stuff and some otherthings that I like, because I

(45:21):
want to showcase all the stuff Ilike throw, throw a few anime
things back there, throw a fewgod Godzilla things back there.
Obviously, gaming is going tobe most of it.
But yeah, I like sharing mypassions.
Man, I like sharing my passionsand I'm passionate about
Godzilla.

Mark Trobough (45:37):
So it was a good time.

Brandon Hurles (45:38):
I will tell you this though Don't get.
I don't recommend not gettinginto it because it's really cool
.
It's one of the funnest thingsto collect ever.
But if you get into collectingGodzilla stuff, expect to spend
some moolah if you want to getthe good stuff.

Mark Trobough (45:54):
Yeah, that's probably how a lot of things go,
especially like Godzilla is avery expensive hobby.

Brandon Hurles (46:00):
Very expensive hobby yeah.

Mark Trobough (46:03):
I guess Gunpla is a little different because the
easier sets are Not that it'sdetailed, but it's easier to get
into it and then the detailedstuff that's more expensive yeah
, like the monster art stuffwhere you're looking at like two
, three hundred dollars for thefigures, which are beautiful,
but like with a gunplay, it'sjust the complexity of just
having to put them together andbuild them the nicer, more
expensive ones, but like themillennium ones, or whatever

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they call them millenniumiumSeries or the Gold Series.
I think the Gold might be one.
I don't have it pulled off thetop of my head.

Brandon Hurles (46:32):
They get very expensive.
We looked it up they were inthe thousands of dollars for
some of them.

Mark Trobough (46:36):
Yeah, but some of the higher-end kits require you
to actually have extra tools.
It's not just snapped together,it's like you need actual
proper tools and stuff like thatto it's.
It's the same thing.
A lot of stuff gets expensive.
Just collecting pvc figures is.
It can get really expensiveyeah, nobody collects pvc
figures I mean you say that,except mark just kidding, yeah,

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whatever, um all right.
So what we got next we got alittle thing from from ubisoft,
kind of like those if I didn'twant to like linger on this too
much, but apparently from theCEO, yves Guillemont.
It essentially came out andconfirmed that the Assassin's
Creed Shadows delay is costingthe company an extra 20 million

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euro, which is a lot of money.

Brandon Hurles (47:21):
Oh boy.

Mark Trobough (47:22):
And we don't know how much they're going to
change or what they're going todo with the game.
But that's a significant addednumber to tack on to it that you
need to make back with thisgame.

Brandon Hurles (47:33):
One thing that I will say in a positive light
for this game.
The game looks beautiful.
Yeah, it looks really good.
Am I buying it?
No, If I find it for 15 bucks,yes.
Yeah, so 20 million euros isabout 21.7 million USD Pretty
much the same amount I'm soupset, because this game has so

(47:56):
much potential, so muchpotential, but it's all the
headlines surrounding it and allthe controversies with it that
really ruined it.

Mark Trobough (48:05):
That's what's hurting AAA games as a whole.

Brandon Hurles (48:08):
This had so much potential.
A samurai game that's right upmy alley.
That's something I want to play.

Mark Trobough (48:15):
You've got other samurai games that have come out
.
You've got the Ghost ofJishimen the.
Ghost of Yotei and stuff likethat.

Brandon Hurles (48:22):
Last Ronin came out that people just look over
for some reason.
It's a great game Then again.

Mark Trobough (48:26):
It's not like there's People just look over
for some reason.
It's a great game.
There's controversy around alot of stuff these days.

Brandon Hurles (48:32):
Now I'm seeing controversy.
I think this one, I will say Ithink people are just pulling it
out of their ass.
As far as the Ghost of Yoteistuff, Look, just because
there's a female lead does notmean that there's something
going on there.

Mark Trobough (48:47):
There's two things I've noticed.
One people just see that andthey make assumption off of
where AAA has been of like oh, Isee where this is going.
They're jumping to conclusions.

Brandon Hurles (49:00):
Nobody did with Echoes of Wisdom, nobody batted
an eye.

Mark Trobough (49:05):
Oh, because Nintendo doesn't have that bad
will like the greater AAAindustry as a whole does.

Brandon Hurles (49:10):
I don't think that just because of the
narrative, of everything else,because there's a female lead.
I like female lead.
You played Stellar Blade Femalelead.
I mean Metroid Female lead.

Mark Trobough (49:22):
I believe and I don't believe, but I think this
really is the driving factorwith that game is it's the lead
voice actress herself that'sdriving a lot of controversy.
What's the problem?
I don't have it pulled up infront of me because she's a
social activist and stuff likethat.
With the shaved head she may begoing by non-binary or whatever

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pronouns or something like thatin her bio, but she definitely
needs that persuasion.
That's not the game.
People assume that, oh, ifyou're hiring this person, their
ideology is going to bleed intothe game, because you've seen
it to some degree before withsome of these studios.
Obviously, we don't know.
We just got a CG trailer.
The game still has a decentamount of work before we

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actually get a gameplay.

Brandon Hurles (50:06):
Unless something comes out crazy about Ghost.
You'd say I'm playing it.
I loved ghost of tsushima.

Mark Trobough (50:11):
I was gonna say it's white though I think
there's legit criticism, like I,I understand where people's
criticism comes for and yeah, tosome degree I felt like that to
some degree.
But I was like I'm willing,based off the first game, I'm
willing to give this a shot andactually play the game because I
think they can actually play adecent game.
But I get where people becauseit's hard.
There's this thing of likeseparating the art from the

(50:32):
artist, but to some people it'sit's gotten harder over time to
for that to be a legit thing Ican still do that, no problem, I
can.

Brandon Hurles (50:40):
I can do that.

Mark Trobough (50:41):
I have that separation, I I'm able to do
that at least there's a lot ofvocal people that are at that
point where it's like they justjust associate like I don't
agree with you at all, so Idon't want to buy anything from
you at all.

Brandon Hurles (50:52):
But isn't that kind of a toxic attitude?
Isn't that a little gross, yeah, I would say.

Mark Trobough (50:56):
But I mean, the whole games industry has kind of
gotten toxic over the last 10years.

Brandon Hurles (51:00):
It has, and I'm not defending that at all.
I'm just saying, unlesssomething major comes out for
Ghost of Yotei, I'm playing thatgame day one.
I am so excited to have a newGhost of Tsushima, and you know
what Like when it comes down tolike female leads in games,
which there's been tons.
I mean you look at Perfect,dark, zero, metroid.

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I mean there's so many, so manyfemale-led games that I love
and that has nothing to do withI don't care about that, I don't
care if it's a male or femalecharacter, as long as the game's
good.
That's how I feel.

Mark Trobough (51:35):
It's also the internet.
The internet loves there'salways going to be somebody
complaining about something.
No X loves that.
It's also a really popular app.

Brandon Hurles (51:46):
It drives a lot of attention to a lot of stuff
it's also a really popular app,which is it drives a lot of
attention to a lot of stuff, butI think the general consensus
overall is not the case.

Mark Trobough (51:54):
I'll say this it's the same thing with the
previous game, like, if you havea problem with the voice
actress, then just play the gamein Japanese Cause these voice
actors these other people,they've already been paid, like
the money's already made, thestudios already already put it
out there, out there.
So I don't want to support thisact, this this person or this
this developer, this voice actor.
It's like, oh, they've alreadybeen paid.
Whatever you do or don't isn'tgoing to affect that one person

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does not matter one day the bestthing, I think, is like, if you
don't like this person and youdon't care about her, regardless
of how how well she does thevoice, then just play it in a
different language.
That's there, play in thejapanese language and language,
and then just kind of moveforward.

Brandon Hurles (52:28):
But I'm so upset about Assassin's Creed Shadows,
because I don't care aboutAssassin's Creed as a whole, but
the setting of it is everythingI want.
I mean, I love the samuraisetting.
I love playing games that areset in feudal Japan.

Mark Trobough (52:44):
They fumbled the bag with pointless controversy
that probably could have beenavoided by just it just feels
like they fumbled the bag withpointless controversy that
probably could have been avoidedby just.
Regardless of what you want tosay about Yasuke and Black
Samurai that would have beenright up our radar if Yasuke had
been a Japanese male, therewould be no controversy.
The game wouldn't have beendelayed.
It probably would have stillbeen a buggy mess at launch

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because it's Ubisoft, but thiscontroversy would have been
mostly a non-existent issue forthem.

Brandon Hurles (53:11):
Yeah, it's unfortunate man.
It's such a bummer because Iwant to play that game but with
all the stuff that came outabout it, I just can't.
I don't have it in me to do it.
That's just how I feel about it.
We also got no Rest for theWicked developer, predicts AAA.

Mark Trobough (53:32):
Oh sorry, go ahead.
I just want to share becausethis news came out and we talked
about it.
I thought, it was kind of hard,but the Concord developer, the
Fireworks Studios, officiallywas getting shuttered.
That announcement came out thisweek which was not a surprise.

Brandon Hurles (53:44):
We predicted this a while ago.

Mark Trobough (53:48):
It is what it is.
We already talked about it.
It's just I'm surprised it tookthem this long to officially
make the decision, because aweek or two ago they were like,
oh, is Concord coming back?
And then the studio gets axed.
You're like, oh yeah, that waswishful thinking.

Brandon Hurles (54:02):
It wasn't just Firewalks that got shut down,
though.

Mark Trobough (54:06):
That was the big news, was there another one?

Brandon Hurles (54:07):
I'm missing.
Yeah, there were two studiosthat got shut down.
I'm trying to find it.
See if I can find it on X.
Sony shut down two studios atthe same time.

Mark Trobough (54:18):
You're probably right.
I just think the FirewalkStudios just sucked all the
oxygen out of the announcement.

Brandon Hurles (54:24):
No, I think so too.
But yeah, they did shut downanother studio, Because Concord
was a spectacular failure.

Mark Trobough (54:30):
There is no way you were.

Brandon Hurles (54:31):
You were getting out of this unscathed oh okay,
they closed down neon kai, neonkoi as well, so neon koi and
firewalk studios got shut downdo you know what they worked on?
I don't want to look up.

Mark Trobough (54:44):
It's a.

Brandon Hurles (54:45):
It's a german studio I want to look it up real
quick.

Mark Trobough (54:47):
Yeah, I was trying to like I didn't know,
but I don't want to look up.
It's a German studio.
I want to look it up real quick.

Brandon Hurles (54:52):
I didn't know, but I don't know what game they
worked on.
Yeah, in a cool way, let's see.
Go on their website.

Mark Trobough (54:57):
It looks like they're based out of Finland and
Germany.
Yes, it was founded in 2020.

Brandon Hurles (55:03):
This is just a stupid website, hold on.

Mark Trobough (55:05):
It says, according to the PlayStation
Wiki.

Brandon Hurles (55:09):
Yeah, that's what I'm on Founded in 2020.

Mark Trobough (55:12):
In 2022, it was acquired by Sony as the founding
member of the PlayStationStudios mobile division and
renamed Koi in 2023.
So it just felt like they justbombed and didn't do anything
with them.

Brandon Hurles (55:24):
It says the studio was revealed to be
working on a AAA live serviceaction title, so that's probably
why they got shut down, becausestudios like Sony's like oh,
live service like this isn'tworking.
Let's not put another Concordout by Neon Koi.

Mark Trobough (55:42):
It was just kind of like well, we need to save
money.
Europe studio we haven't doneanything with.
We don't need you anymore.
Get the X.

Brandon Hurles (55:48):
Yeah.

Mark Trobough (55:49):
I will say this.

Brandon Hurles (55:52):
I want to read the tweet that Firewalk Studios
put out.
It's kind of like not all ofit's their fault.
Obviously they were working onthe game, but there were shifts
and developments.
That's been confirmed.
It was scrapped, restartedshifts and development and there
were leadership issues.
So a bunch of people that wereworking for firewalk studios

(56:14):
came out and made publicstatements as as to why the game
turned out the way that it didand like they had an original
premise for the game that wasnowhere near what the game ended
up being so either it's largelyit's the heads of the studio
that made the decision andpushed it a certain way.
This is a little long, but letme just read this real quick.
This is Firewalk Studios' lasttweet.

(56:34):
It says Firewalk is signing offone last time.
Firewalk began with the idea ofbringing the joy of multiplayer
to a larger audience.
Along the way, we assembled anincredible team who were able to
navigate growing a new startupand a team during a global
pandemic.
Firewalk was founded in 2018and was very small for its first
couple of years, only enteringfull production in 2022.

(56:58):
Then next is build a new,customized next generation FPS
engine in Unreal 4 and then 5,delivering top tier gameplay,
feel, beautiful worlds and aperformant 60 frames per second
technical experience on a stableand scalable back end on ps5
and pc to hundreds of thousandsof players in our beta.

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Also says manage andacquisition integration while
reading technical andpreliminary preliminary tests.
Next it says an ultimate shipand deliver a great FPS
experience to players, even ifit landed much more narrowly
than hoped against a heavilyconsolidated market.
We took some risks along theway, marrying aspects of card

(57:42):
battlers and fighting games withfirst-person shooters, and,
although some of these and otheraspects of the IP didn't land
as we hoped, the idea of puttingnew things in the world is
critical to pushing the mediumforward.
The talent at Firewalk and thelevel of individual craft is
truly first-class and teamswithin Sony Interactive
Entertainment and across theindustry will be fortunate to

(58:05):
work with them.
Please reach out to Recrurecruiting at PlayStation for
inquiries.
Thank you to all the very manyteams, partners and fans who
support us along the way.
See you in the Tempest.
Firewalk Studios andTransmission.
So.

Mark Trobough (58:23):
I think it's really simple.
Your game failed because it wasa bad game and an already
saturated market and it came outlike five years too late.

Brandon Hurles (58:32):
Yeah, one thing I thought was kind of funny.
I rarely look at X comments butsomebody put in quotations
hundreds of thousands of playersin our beta and somebody put
LOLOK all-time peak 2,388.

Mark Trobough (58:49):
Yeah, literally nobody had any interest in a $40
game where there's alreadyfree-to-play games that have
established communities thathave been a part of a decade.

Brandon Hurles (58:56):
at this point, I will say that model makes sense
if there's no microtransactions, Like if you get the game as a
whole and you don't have to payfor anything else.

Mark Trobough (59:04):
But there's always going to be
microtransactions in this gamebut were there microtransactions
in the beta?
Well, no, it's a beta.
You're not going to have anyaccess to any of that stuff.

Brandon Hurles (59:12):
I mean, do we know that there are going to be
microtransactions?
When it's a free to play gameat the core.
But instead of making it freeto play, you buy it all in one
bundle and you get everythingthat was like the concept single
player games withmicrotransactions in them.

Mark Trobough (59:32):
Sony's not above that.

Brandon Hurles (59:34):
I will say this you know it sucks when people
lose their jobs.
It does suck.
So I will say you know, I hopeeverybody lands on their feet.
We also just got word thatGameStop shuttered a ton of
employees.
So same for them.
You know, I hope they land ontheir feet.
We also just got word thatGameStop shuttered a ton of
employees.
So same for them.
You know, I hope they land ontheir feet.
I know we probably don't havethat in the notes, but yeah,

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they just laid off a ton ofemployees, like a lot, which was
bound to happen if GameStopdoesn't change their ways and
focus on retro in all games.
I think they're trying.
The problem is they're tryingbut they're not trying hard
enough.

Mark Trobough (01:00:11):
The problem is it's hard to make a change with
a company that big.
You need time to move left andright.

Brandon Hurles (01:00:20):
They tried to do not crypto, but the things you
could buy.
What's it called NFTs?
They tried called NFTs.
They tried to do NFTs.
They tried everything right.
They were like, oh, let's jumpon the NFT.
And then everybody was talkingabout GameStop stonks and all

(01:00:41):
the stuff that was happeningthen.

Mark Trobough (01:00:42):
That was more of a meme.

Brandon Hurles (01:00:45):
More of a meme, but it was a real thing.
I know people that were reallyinvesting in the GameStop for
real.

Mark Trobough (01:00:51):
I mean, only time will really tell.

Brandon Hurles (01:00:53):
But I will say this Legit right the ship.
Not to bring it back toGodzilla, but this is trending
on Twitter right now.
A new Godzilla movie has beengreenlit.

Mark Trobough (01:01:04):
I assume that was in the relations A sequel to
Godzilla, minus One when wetalked about that.
It's relations like Godzillaminus one.
Well cause we.
When we talked about that, it'slike hey, the, the director put
in charge of the next film, sothe director actually speaks on
Twitter on the Godzilla Um.

Brandon Hurles (01:01:17):
so if you want to check it out, if you're able
to hello everyone, I havewonderful news I'll be directing
the new Godzilla film.
Uh, please stay tuned.

Mark Trobough (01:01:29):
and that's all he had to say, but it was like a
little clip on the Godzillasocials yeah, because what we
talked about it was the TohoGreen Light's new Godzilla film
with the same director oh, isthat what we talked about
earlier?

Brandon Hurles (01:01:41):
oh, my god.

Mark Trobough (01:01:42):
I'm sorry.
I missed over that part of it,because I was trying to get a
post up.

Brandon Hurles (01:01:45):
I apologize.

Mark Trobough (01:01:46):
Yeah, that's really cool, sorry guys, a
little embarrassing part of itbecause I was trying to get a
post up.
I apologize.
We just talked about that.

Brandon Hurles (01:01:50):
Sorry guys, a little embarrassing.
Gamestop has had a lot of time.
Mr Coffee said yeah, they have.
They have for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:01:57):
But the leadership changed the thing.
How long has the Nintendo ofAmerica president been with them
?
A long time.
I thought it's been like a yearor two.
At this point it's been a while.

Brandon Hurles (01:02:13):
About two years roughly, yeah.

Mark Trobough (01:02:16):
Yeah.
I'll double check he's morelike an executive, so it's not
like he can snap his fingers.

Brandon Hurles (01:02:21):
Yeah, let me check.

Mark Trobough (01:02:22):
Definitely worth looking out before we move on to
the next topic.

Brandon Hurles (01:02:27):
Yeah, so Shintaro Furukawa, let's see how
long he's been.
He's the sixth and currentpresident of the video game
company.
He took over in the company inJune 2018, so it's actually been
a while.
So we're looking at six years.
It didn't seem that long.

Mark Trobough (01:02:45):
It doesn't seem like that long.

Brandon Hurles (01:02:47):
I'll tell you what man I miss.
I miss Iwata, I really do.
I do think about that often.
I miss Iwata he was one of thebest.
He was one of the best.
I mean, I legitimately do thinkabout how much I miss his era
of Nintendo.

Mark Trobough (01:03:06):
I'd say this if he hadn't passed away, he'd
probably still be the presidentof tuda right now 100.

Brandon Hurles (01:03:10):
I mean they, they, they're there until that.
That's what they do, that'swhat japanese do.
I mean they, they work at theone place until they can't work
anymore.
I mean, you know, you, look at,you know, um, oh god, blanket
on the name of the creator,mario and all those iconic

(01:03:31):
series Metroid.
What's his name?
Why am I blanking on this?

Mark Trobough (01:03:36):
I don't remember the name.

Brandon Hurles (01:03:38):
Anyway, yeah, he's still there.
I mean, and you got to think hecreated the original Super
Mario Brothers.
He's still there making games.
You know, yeah, it's crazy,he's overseeing all the the
mario games, the metroid gamescoming out, animal crossing, you
know, pokemon, things like that.
So oh, you're talking about uh,because mr coffee mentioned uh
miyamoto yeah, miyamoto, yeahyeah, okay, yeah, yeah, he's

(01:04:01):
still there and it correct me ifI'm wrong, but he's about the
same age that awada was, I thinkbecause, yeah, because he's one
of the, he worked there.

Mark Trobough (01:04:09):
He started working there like what back in
the 80s essentially?

Brandon Hurles (01:04:12):
Yeah, when Super Mario Bros came out, he was
working there.

Mark Trobough (01:04:15):
Yeah, because he worked on like Mario and Yoshi
and stuff like that, like theoriginal.

Brandon Hurles (01:04:19):
National Stands and still is, he still is
hands-on with those games.

Mark Trobough (01:04:24):
He's been there for probably close to 50 years
at this point.

Brandon Hurles (01:04:27):
They work there until they die.
That's how Japanese are.

Mark Trobough (01:04:30):
If they like a company, they stick with that
company until they die.
If you love what you do, youdon't need to retire.

Brandon Hurles (01:04:40):
He loves what he does.
He's given us so many iconictitles.
I hope that man stays aroundfor a long time still, because
he really breathes lives intothese games.

Mark Trobough (01:04:55):
Yeah, because it's like I mean it's not going
to be around forever, but it'slike how long Is he going to
retire?
Is he just going to stay there?

Brandon Hurles (01:04:59):
I don't see him retiring.
I don't even see him retiring.

Mark Trobough (01:05:03):
Because you saw it's the same thing when it came
to Studio Ghibli with the.

Brandon Hurles (01:05:10):
We're bad with names, aren't we?

Mark Trobough (01:05:11):
Yeah, because he retired a while ago after one of
his films and then, 10 yearslater, he came back and started
making films again.

Brandon Hurles (01:05:21):
Yeah, yeah, for sure yeah.
By the way, just a quick shouthave you ever gotten a wada's
book before?
Have you great read?
I don't even read and it's it'samazing.
Like the.
The book is amazing.
You should definitely look itup.
It is so worth.

(01:05:41):
It's a great collection piecetoo, but it's an excellent book
and it was one of the firstbooks I've read.
Before that I hadn't read abook in like 10 years and I read
that and I was just like veryintrigued.
I'm like this is you're hearing, like the life of a man who's
directly involved in the bookand kind of the innards and outs

(01:06:02):
of the way that he thinks andthe way that he perceives the
world, the ins and outs.
Is that what I said?

Mark Trobough (01:06:13):
You said like innards and outs.

Brandon Hurles (01:06:14):
Oh, I just thought it was a funny way to
say it.

Mark Trobough (01:06:15):
Uh, always giving me a hard time uh, but we got
some stuff from somebody that'sin the industry.
Uh, no rush for the wickeddeveloper.
Uh, thomas, uh, mauler, tweetout on x about you know why?
Triple a games are strugglingright now, and just not all of
them, but a lot of them are justmiraculously failing in

(01:06:35):
spectacular fashion, like justfalling flat on their heads.
They are yeah.
So he came out and said this isa direct quote from him.
I know it sounds absurd, butmost of the game studios out
there that hit it big were atone point just a small group of
passionate folks that wanted tomake games together.
In a lot of cases they werejust friends.
If they were lucky, they foundout in the process they actually
make a great team and the gamescame out, they created, struck

(01:06:58):
a chord, and now they scale up,become massive studios.
Then lots of other folks comein and demand this and that and
unknowingly change the cultureand the approach.
And then we suddenly wonderwhat happened to this or that
and unknowingly change theculture and the approach.
And then we suddenly wonderwhat happened to this or that
great studio that alwaysdelivered in the past?
Uh, once they are notdelivering the same quality
products anymore.
Uh, even though everythingchanged in their approach to
making games and I think this issomething we've talked about

(01:07:21):
before it's like you look atsome of those other studios like
why is their?
Their stuff now is not the sameas it was 10, 15 years ago.
Like why, why is the qualitychain?
It's like, well, you know, theyhit it big with a title, the
studio got real big.
You know, names and faceschange and stuff like that, and
eventually nobody, there's,that's the same.

Brandon Hurles (01:07:40):
It gets corporatized and then profit
matters above all else yeah, no,I mean, I agree with this guy's
statement, I agree I think.

Mark Trobough (01:07:48):
I think for for sure it matters with bioware.
You look at where they wereback in, like 2003, I think, is
when their first star wars gamecame out nice of the old
republic.

Brandon Hurles (01:07:56):
Yeah, somewhere around there it's like what?

Mark Trobough (01:07:58):
2007 with their first mass effect.
What did the dragon age origin?
Sounds right about 2009, if I'mnot mistaken.
That sounds right.
Yeah, like those.
Like really, they were knownfor their writing.
Gameplay at times was lacking alot, but you play them for the
writing and the RPG elements andstuff like that.
But over time it just feelslike I think it happened after

(01:08:19):
EA bought them right around MassEffect 2, but you really felt
it in Mass Effect 3, andromeda,some of their other failed
projects, is.
It just felt like it got toocorporatized and then you know,
hey, let's just make a gamethat's going to make a lot of
money.
Did they make Anthem or wasthat a different studio?
Do you know?
I have to double check now.

Brandon Hurles (01:08:41):
BioWare making Anthem.
That was EA.

Mark Trobough (01:08:44):
No, EA owns BioWare.
Yeah, okay, so hold on yeah,bioware made Anthem in 2019 oh,
they did okay.
Andromeda and that was such aspectacular failure.
And at that point you're likethis is not the same studio that
it was back in the 2000s whenthey made these absolutely
amazing games like Knights ofthe Old Republic.
You know Dragon Age Origins,the original Mass Effect trilogy

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for the most part, so it wasright around that point that it
felt like it started to to dropoff after a while.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:12):
Yeah, for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:09:13):
It's, you know, it becomes too corporatized and
then you, you, you'll lose yourgood writers Cause when they had
, uh drew a carpet in there forthe first two massive games
really good writer.
I've read some of his Star Warsbooks because he wrote the
Darth Bane books, which I thinkare absolutely must-reads.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:31):
Some of the best .

Mark Trobough (01:09:32):
Even if Disney's butchered the canon in my
opinion, and I kind of juststopped watching Star Wars
altogether, I think he made someof the best books that I've
written, and I really liked hiswriting.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:42):
I will say it again and again when they
decided to just do away with theexpanded universe, they lost me
before I even saw.

Mark Trobough (01:09:49):
I get it because.

Brandon Hurles (01:09:51):
I just moved forward.
It doesn't mean they need toscrap all of it.
They didn't need to just scrapthe entire expanded universe.

Mark Trobough (01:09:59):
I was invested.
It takes place where the timeperiod they wanted to make the
next movie and that just causescomplications.
But all the old Republic wascompletely unnecessary.
Now it's the high Republic.
I'm like you didn't need tomake this.
We already had a good,established lore in the expanded
universe that took place inthat that time period to some
degree, but then completelyscrapping everything.
There's a lot of good, a lot ofgood content, a lot of good

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books, even if I didn'tnecessarily like, and there was
a lot of good stories thatexisted and it was wholesale
unnecessary.
But I think it just goes to alarger portion.
Studios get too big.
They just want to start, youknow, cranking stuff out and
then, you know, the qualitydrops.
New people come in withdifferent visions and it's just
not the, it's not the studiopeople fall in love with and I I
100 agree, uh, with this takebecause, you know, small studio

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gets big, it becomes really bigand then it starts to.
You know, small studio gets big, it becomes really big and then
it starts to fall apart.
Essentially is what it feelslike with a lot of these studios
.
Yeah.
Because now everyone's lookingat the indie stuff and it's like
, oh, when's the next big studiogoing to come up?
Because you saw what the studiothat made Ghost of Tsushima
it's the next big thing.
They're going to make a biggame, but in 10 years is it
going to be the same studio, oris all the staff going to be
different and the quality goingto start dropping off?

Brandon Hurles (01:11:09):
Yeah, I get it.
I mean it's a tough one, right?
Like Star Wars had so manydirections to go Almost too many
directions, right.
So where they went, like weboth talked about, we like Rogue
Squadron 1.
We both like that.
If they had taken that.
You like it, right yeah?

Mark Trobough (01:11:30):
it's the only movie that I like.

Brandon Hurles (01:11:32):
Yeah, it's the only one I like as well.
So if they had taken thatapproach, the way that they did
that movie into the new films, Imean it could have been a
completely different story.
It could all be sucked backinto Star Wars.
Now, obviously that movie tookplace during older events, but
I'm just saying if they tookthat approach with the movie,

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the character, building.

Mark Trobough (01:11:53):
Well, that much care.
Karen.
Writing the actual story, yeah,the character building in it,
the actual action in the movieeverything about it.
They respected the establishedlore.

Brandon Hurles (01:12:01):
Yeah, I mean everything about it was just
right.
I mean it was just right, soI'm giving up on Star Wars.
I mean it was just right, so II'm giving up on Star Wars.
I'll just say that.

Mark Trobough (01:12:11):
My ultimate criticism with these sequel
movies, because obviously Rey'sgoing to stick around, which I
think is a terrible decision.
But the problem is with theepisode 7 was.
They were very obviouslybaiting you into.
Hey, you remember all these oldcharacters.

Brandon Hurles (01:12:26):
Yeah, which.

Mark Trobough (01:12:26):
I think was a terrible decision.
I think, and I still do think,you should have.
Just you needed to disconnectfrom the original six films.
You need to either go.
You need to go your owndirection in the past, or you
needed to go like a century inthe future to where you're fully
disconnected.

Brandon Hurles (01:12:42):
Yeah, it doesn't have anything to do with the
old characters, because don't?

Mark Trobough (01:12:45):
like it's not tied to the movies and stuff
like that.
I still think they're terriblywritten films top and bottom,
regardless of them being only20-30 years in the future, but I
think you need to disconnectfrom the Skywalkers.

Brandon Hurles (01:12:56):
Do you agree with me that if they had just
went a complete differentdirection, didn't show any old
characters from the other moviesdid their own thing, that it
could be a complete differentstory?
They don't need to bring inLuke Skywalker.
They didn't need to do that andLuke didn't even like it.
Mark Hamill spoke on it.

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He did not even like it.

Mark Trobough (01:13:20):
But he took a paycheck, so his criticisms I
don't care.

Brandon Hurles (01:13:23):
Well, he took a paycheck because a lot of people
would take a paycheck.
It's Disney.
They're paying a lot of money.

Mark Trobough (01:13:30):
Then again it's Mark Hamill.
He said a lot of stupid stuffthat I don't agree with, so I
take what he says with a grainof salt.
Great actor.
I don't like a lot of hispersonal opinions on stuff.
I guess I don't know.

Brandon Hurles (01:13:41):
I don't know.

Mark Trobough (01:13:42):
Yeah, because Mr Coffee brought up about George
Lucas himself.
It about George Lucas himselfwas always about the Skywalker
family and I get that that mighthave been his vision for the
films before he sold out toDisney.
But to me some of the bestexpanded universe, which was
usually in the books, hadnothing to do with that era of
Star Wars, completelydisconnected.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:02):
I mean, you look back at the I forget what the
age is called but before theyeven had lightsabers there was a
book series I'm trying to thinkof it where they were using
swords.

Mark Trobough (01:14:16):
I think that has to go back with the.
Was it the Grey Jedi?
I don't know how old, I don'tthink it's super old, but the
Grey Jedi.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:22):
It was something like that Before lightsabers
were even a thing.

Mark Trobough (01:14:25):
Before you essentially had the split where
it became Jedi and Sithith.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:28):
It was just, the force was all that mattered, I
think yeah, the same concept,yeah yeah, yeah, I like they
were using swords like actualswords, instead of lightsabers
yeah, because the force was likea new thing.
We're still learning yeah,which I thought was great.
I thought it was great, Ithought it was a great.
I love reading about that eraof star Wars.

Mark Trobough (01:14:49):
I think all old, all the old Republic, expanded
universe stuff was some of thebest written stuff and it's
still and you know it's true tothe original lore because it's
written by really good.

Brandon Hurles (01:14:58):
Why do we not just get a Knights of the old
Republic movie?
That would do so well.

Mark Trobough (01:15:03):
It.
It respects the original IP,but it's.
It respects the original IP,but it's completely disconnected
from where we're at, to whereit gives you some level of
freedom.

Brandon Hurles (01:15:12):
That's one video game movie I would be all over,
because I mean, it's a moviefranchise turned into a game
brought back to a movie.
Knights of the Old Republic istop-tier Star Wars and you ask
anybody that's a Star Wars fanor even just a video game fan
Knights of the Old Republic isexcellent.
If they took that and broughtthat into a movie that would
sell gangbusters.

Mark Trobough (01:15:34):
Instead we have to bring back a used villain for
the ninth film in the Emperorand stuff like that.
I've never read the books.
There are apparently books thatdealt with the Emperor
essentially being cloned andcoming back.
I feel like a lot of peoplejust from what I read, because
I've not actually read the books.
A lot of people didn't care for, but the movies didn't even do

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that storyline justice.
You would have been better offjust copying these books.
It would have been a morecoherent story.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:00):
I haven't heard anybody say they didn't like
that about the Emperor, but thatdoes happen and I feel like
that about the emperor, but, um,that does happen and I feel
like that would have made for amore interesting movie than what
we got.

Mark Trobough (01:16:10):
Yeah, still I, but I think it goes to to bigger
, both triple a game industryand, I think, hollywood.
I've been saying this for awhile.
It's just, they're morally andcreatively bankrupt.

Brandon Hurles (01:16:19):
That's really all they are yeah, and it's a
rehash, it's a remake.
It's a remake of stuff that'salready been made yeah, we're
just remaking old IPs that arealready established, that people
know and that's all they can do.
There's no creative visionanymore.
There's no, and I wonder.
I do wonder what AI is going to, how much impact it's going to

(01:16:40):
have in the movie industry andthe fact that you go give me an
AI summary of a Star Wars film,including all the Star Wars
films that we currently have.
So, taking all the synopsis oreven straight up scripts, you
can run a script right throughChatGBT, for instance, and these
companies have the betterversion of ChatGBT that we don't

(01:17:01):
have unless you get the paidversion of it, but they're on
the cutting edge of AI and Iwonder if they were just to run
a script through all thesynopsis of the Star Wars films
that people like and even justrun straight scripts through.
You can run a whole entirescript in the movie, a 20-page
script, through it and give me asynopsis on a good movie.

(01:17:24):
that would be the nextpredecessor to what I've sent
you.
Give me a good movie idea, andhow much do you want to bet that
chat GBT comes up with a betteridea than the crap we're being
fed right now with these stupidStar Wars movies?

Mark Trobough (01:17:38):
At the very least , it wouldn't be any worse, but
I see, it would not be worse,for sure.
It's good as a tool, but on itsown it's not going to write a
good enthralling film.
It would come off as kind ofbad at the end of the day.
But I mean Disney as a wholejust kind of feels bankrupt to
some degree.

Brandon Hurles (01:17:56):
Mr Coffey said Force Awakened was just a
remaster of New Hope.
Yeah, that's pretty much whatit was.
Pretty much what it was.

Mark Trobough (01:18:04):
You know, 50 years in the future or something
like that.
I guess 20, 50 years in thefuture or something like that.
I guess 20, 30 years in thefuture.
But I think that's anotherreason why a lot of people are
going to foreign entertainment.
Well, that's anime, manga orforeign films, especially Korean
films, chinese films, becausethey're not, at the very least
to those in the West.
It's something new and it's not.
It's taking risks to somedegree.

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It's not just redoing the samething over and over.
Obviously, anime does that to amillionth degree in certain
stuff, but it's still in certainareas.
It's willing to take risks andat least do something different.
And I don't know about a lot ofEuropean films, though when I
say the West I kind of lump alot of those together.
But I think it's just.
You know, a lot of people arelooking outside for different

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entertainment and Hollywood hasto make a change eventually.
I mean, there's always going tobe people that are going to buy
the slop and be like yes, giveme more multi-billion dollar
corporation.

Brandon Hurles (01:18:56):
Yeah, for sure, for sure.
So it looks like we also gotSplatoon 3 reveals event roadmap
for November.
Crazy that we're still gettingthe support that we are for
Splatoon 3.
Yeah.

Mark Trobough (01:19:08):
Needed something to break up some positive.
I don't play Splatoon 3, but Iknow it's a fairly popular
Switch game.

Brandon Hurles (01:19:13):
Very popular, very popular and should
definitely have voice chat.

Mark Trobough (01:19:18):
Yeah, that's like .
One of the criticisms is howthe voice chat.
You need a phone to make thatwork.
Yeah, but they kind of came outon the Splatoon North America
for November.

Brandon Hurles (01:19:26):
Give me just a sec, they kind of came out on
the Splatoon North America forNovember.
It's giving.

Mark Trobough (01:19:28):
I guess today and tomorrow they're doing some
dual of dynamics.
The eighth of the 10th, that'ssome extra work, whatever that
means.
It's pretty much like everyweek or something like that.
You know, ink jets foreveryone's, swim it to win it
Work.
We're the angels monthlychallenge.
I don't know what these exactlymean, but if you're a fan
obviously it's a big thing.
These are all two-day events.

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For the most part it looks likeit's every weekend or something
like that.
The At Splatoon North NA hasall this fun stuff.
But just wanted to give it ashout out, not a game we talk a
whole lot about, but it's awell-received game.
I've seen people stream thegame.
It's really popular, but I justwant to give it a shout out.
Yeah, for sure.

Brandon Hurles (01:20:10):
So it looks like we've also got Monster Hunter
Wilds.
Confirms important feature.
So we know that the beta.
I have not got to start thebeta yet.

Mark Trobough (01:20:21):
I'm probably not going to be able to play it at
all, but it's going through thefourth, so essentially it's an
extended weekend.
For how the beta works, yeah,one of the things they did
announce, though, if you do playthe beta they said for sure,
this was straight from theMonster Hunter Twitter account

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the time you spend meticulouslycreating your Hunter and Palico
in the Monster Hunter Wilds openbeta test will be well worth it
, as you'll be able to importtheir character creation data
into the full game.
So at least your your charactercreator, if you do during the
beta, you don't have to redo itwhen you actually get the game.
Yeah, next year yeah, I also.

Brandon Hurles (01:21:05):
I mean, I think it's cool they're doing a beta
for this game, because I couldbe wrong, but I don't remember
them doing a beta before forMonster Hunters, monster Hunter,
I maybe for Monster HunterWorld, but I don't remember.
But let me just say this gamelooks freaking phenomenal.
It looks really good.
The screenshots are insane ofthe monsters.

Mark Trobough (01:21:25):
This is like there has been some criticisms,
it is a beta game that launchedit?

Brandon Hurles (01:21:30):
Where?

Mark Trobough (01:21:30):
there's some.
Yeah, it's not graphicallyperfect.
It's not a finished game,obviously, but a lot of people
seem to really hype Like.
This game immediately broke400,000 concurrent players on
Steam in its first day.

Brandon Hurles (01:21:40):
Oh, I believe it .
It's a huge property.
It's the number one IP in Japan.

Mark Trobough (01:21:49):
Above Pokemon.
I mean it had like five or sixtimes the amount of players than
the Dragon Age game didyesterday.

Brandon Hurles (01:21:54):
Good on them, good on them.

Mark Trobough (01:21:57):
I mean, yeah, but everything I've seen, like I'm
kind of wanting to keep myselffrom getting too drug into this
game because I want to play iton launch and like a lot of
films and TV shows and moviegames.

Brandon Hurles (01:22:06):
Well, why would you not want to play the beta
and have your stuff transferredover?

Mark Trobough (01:22:09):
Because I want to play the game complete.
I want to have full access tothe game, but I also want to go
into a game as blind as possible.
I like not knowing a whole lotabout a game to some degree and
just being able to explore itwhen it comes out, because this
is 100%, like a day one purchaseto me.
Like one of us is going to bestreaming this game online,
that's pretty much a guaranteeDay one I'll have it.

Brandon Hurles (01:22:31):
Day one, I'll have it day one, and multiplayer
we can both play.
Is there multiplayer on thisgame?
There's always multiplayer inevery Monster Hunter.

Mark Trobough (01:22:40):
I've only ever played Monster Hunter Worlds.
I knew that was, but it's theonly Monster Hunter.

Brandon Hurles (01:22:44):
I've played.
Every Monster Hunter playerfrom the beginning has
multiplayer.

Mark Trobough (01:22:48):
Yeah, because this game comes out February
20th, so it's still a ways away.

Brandon Hurles (01:22:51):
And let me tell you.

Mark Trobough (01:22:52):
This game still has like four months to go.

Brandon Hurles (01:22:54):
This is one of the games that you want to play
with other players because someof the monsters when you get the
later stage monsters, there'sabsolutely zero chance you're
taking down that monster byyourself.
Zero chance it gets very hard.

Mark Trobough (01:23:07):
So it's already confirmed the weekend of the
last weekend of February whenthis game comes out.
We're just going to stream ittogether.

Brandon Hurles (01:23:16):
I'm going to be headfirst into this game.

Mark Trobough (01:23:19):
Might as well make it a full day thing instead
of waiting until late on aSaturday at that point.

Brandon Hurles (01:23:23):
Yeah, I'll play as long as I can.
We'll stream longer than normaland we'll just freaking play
and get into it.

Mark Trobough (01:23:29):
This game is coming out on PC, PS5, Xbox
Series X and Xbox Series S.
I am 100% getting this on SteamI don't know what platform you
are.

Brandon Hurles (01:23:38):
I don't know if this PC and console players can
you play together.
You gotta find out first.
It's worth looking into.

Mark Trobough (01:23:45):
I can't play it on Steam.
If it's a multiplayer game, ifit's a multi-console release
like this, I always prefer toget it on Steam.

Brandon Hurles (01:23:55):
If it's multi, yeah, I guarantee that it's not
cross-platform PC.

Mark Trobough (01:23:59):
I don't know why you have such hatred towards PC
gaming.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:06):
I don't, but I know that I can't play it on my
PC.
There's no way my PC is goingto be able to handle it.

Mark Trobough (01:24:09):
Okay, we'll bring up the Steam page.
You have a 4070.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:14):
I don't even.
This is Monster Hunter.
I want a physical.
This game's important to me.
You get both.
Oh my God, I'm not buying ittwice more.

Mark Trobough (01:24:23):
You can get it cheaper.
So the recommended PC settingsvia Steam, so Windows 10,
obviously Minimum or recommendedis i5-1116K, which you should
have.
Something better than that 16GBof RAM.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:40):
I have an i3.

Mark Trobough (01:24:42):
Graphics card NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070.
I don't have a RTX 2070 Superat VRAM 8 gigs, or the NVIDIA
RTX 4060 at 8 gigs or the AMD 67.

Brandon Hurles (01:24:57):
That's just recommended I don't know, bro,
I'm barely going to be able torun it.
I have a 4060.

Mark Trobough (01:25:03):
I don't know the difference between the 2070
Super and the 4060.
I mean, that's just recommended.
The minimum requirement is a1660 Super, which is a
significantly older thing.
But I mean, if it's across-platform, it's irrelevant.
Broadband internet, that'sfunny.
Minimum of 140 gigs ofavailable space on an SSD it's a

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large game.
How big is it?
140 gigs of available space onan SSD?
It's a large game.
How big is it?
140 gigs of available space.

Brandon Hurles (01:25:32):
Oh my god, I definitely can't play it on.

Mark Trobough (01:25:34):
There is an SSD.
You have to have an SSD Idefinitely can't play it on PC.

Brandon Hurles (01:25:38):
I'm running a 1070 Ti.

Mark Trobough (01:25:42):
You really run a 1070?
That's too old.
I'm running a 4060.

Brandon Hurles (01:25:46):
4060.

Mark Trobough (01:25:48):
Yeah, so you've got the minimum, I've got the
minimum, not the recommended.
No, you've got the recommended.
You said you had a 4060, right,yeah, 4060.
How?

Brandon Hurles (01:25:59):
many gigs, is it ?
I've got 96 gigabytes of RAM.

Mark Trobough (01:26:02):
Well, no, it's not the RAM, it's the VRAM on
the actual graphics card theminimum is going to be.
It says VRAM 8 gigs.
I'm pretty sure they don'tlower that anyways.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:10):
That's like standard right.

Mark Trobough (01:26:11):
You've got the recommended, the lowest, so you
can play on decent mid-tiersettings.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:16):
But I can't play in 4K like I can on my PS5.

Mark Trobough (01:26:20):
If you call that actual 4K.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:22):
Yeah, but it's still upscaled.
I'm not upscaling on PC it.

Mark Trobough (01:26:25):
I'm not upscaling on PC, it's equivalent hardware
.
You still have DLSS on PC andstuff like that.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:28):
I don't have DLSS your.

Mark Trobough (01:26:30):
PS5 is going to be able to play better than the
hardware you have on.
Pc.
How do you get DLSS?
It's just built into yourhardware.
Yeah, I don't have it.
I don't know if I believe you.

Brandon Hurles (01:26:44):
I've never.
Anytime I pull up a game, Idon't know anything about DLSS.
How do you know if you have it?
I thought it was 4070 and uphad DLSS, am I right?
I thought 4060 didn't have DLSS.
Let me pull it up.
I will shout out I cannotfigure out a way to get to the
beta on Monster Hunter, so Idon't know if you have to

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pre-order it Because I don'tknow if you have to pre-order it
Because I don't see an optionon PS5.

Mark Trobough (01:27:11):
This is coming from Wikipedia, but it says with
the exception of the shader,core version, implementation and
control.
Dlss is only available on theGeForce RTX 20, 30, 40, and
Quattro RTX series of the videocards.

Brandon Hurles (01:27:25):
Oh, but I just found the video.

Mark Trobough (01:27:27):
Yeah, it absolutely has it.

Brandon Hurles (01:27:29):
See, I've never seen anything pop up about DLSS
Using dedicated.

Mark Trobough (01:27:31):
AI accelerators called Tension Cores.
I don't know if it's on theQuattro and all of them, but
100% you've got DLSS, because Ihaven't.

Brandon Hurles (01:27:41):
Mr Coffee said there will be cross-platform
between PC.

Mark Trobough (01:27:44):
Well there's cross-platform it's not a
problem, but I'm 100%.
If it's cross-platform, I'mjust going to get it on.

Brandon Hurles (01:27:48):
PC.
Wouldn't you want to have aphysical copy of this game
though?

Mark Trobough (01:27:52):
Yeah, but I can get that later when it's on sale
or something like that Justseems wild to me.
It's not going to be $70forever at launch.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:01):
The game looks absolutely freaking gorgeous.

Mark Trobough (01:28:03):
That's what I usually do for a lot of
multi-platform games.
I'll get it on PC first, andthen, a year or two later, I'll
grab a physical for it.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:09):
Let me just say I am shocked that you're getting
this game.
Did you play Monster Hunter?

Mark Trobough (01:28:16):
I've only played Worlds.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:19):
Okay, so you didn't play the last one on
Switch.

Mark Trobough (01:28:21):
I want to get into it, though, and I've seen a
lot of good stuff.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:24):
It's great, it's the number one Japanese IP,
yeah stuff.
It's just it's great, it's thenumber one Japanese IP.

Mark Trobough (01:28:27):
Yeah, and I had a decent time with worlds, even
though I put, like you know, 15,20 hours into the game.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:32):
Oh god, I put like 500 hours in that game I'm
pretty sure I had that.

Mark Trobough (01:28:36):
I don't know if I had that game on PC or right on
my PS4.
I don't one of those.
I had on Xbox like the worstway to play it actually I might
actually grab this for XboxSeries X.

Brandon Hurles (01:28:50):
If this is a Well, it depends, because I'm
getting PS5 Pro.
So maybe not, I don't know,maybe I'll just get, because
then I'll have the built-in PSSR.
I don't know, we'll see.

Mark Trobough (01:29:00):
Let me double check.

Brandon Hurles (01:29:03):
Can you look up real quick if this will have PS5
Pro enhancements?

Mark Trobough (01:29:10):
According to digital threads, monster hunter
wilds will only have partialcross-platform support.
The good news is that the partthat we'll have is, uh is
cross-play, meaning that you andfriends, either on ps5, xbox
series x or s or pc, can allhunt together no issues.
Uh, this feature can bedisabled if you wish, but by
default.
So I don't know exactly what Imean by partial, but it's, it's

(01:29:31):
cross play, but I don't knowwhat they mean by partial cross
platform support yeah, what doesthat even mean?
it's the.
I guess the important thing isthe cross play, which means you
can still play together.
I don't know if it's likein-game chat or some other stuff
is limited well I've got thebeta downloading right now.
Okay, so here it is.
From the same digital trends.
It says where Monster HunterWilds Fall Short is in the

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cross-save and cross-progressiondepartments.
You will not be able to takeyour character progression or
DLC from one platform to another.
If you ever decide to play thegame on a different console,
you'll need to start all the wayfrom the beginning.
I don't care as much about that.
Your progression's stuck onthat hardware, whether it's a PC
, Xbox or PlayStation, which Ithink is acceptable.

(01:30:15):
I think it's unacceptable.
So you can get it on PS5 andXbox and I'll just get it on PC
and we can still play together.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:24):
I'll tell you what I'm actually thinking.
I'm going to get it on PS5because the PS5 Pro has it, has
enhancements for it, so it'sgoing to have the advanced ray
tracing, the PSSR, all thatstuff that's automatically built
into the system.
It's not like DLSS where itworks for 1% of games.

Mark Trobough (01:30:42):
Now, to be fair, I think we talked more about WoW
than I think I intended to.
No more about WoW, as I think.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:45):
I intended to.
No, I mean, I'm just surprisedthat you're getting it.
I'm really really shocked rightnow.
I've played the game.

Mark Trobough (01:30:50):
It looks fun.
I've heard a lot of good thingsabout the game.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:53):
I've been playing since the PS2 game.

Mark Trobough (01:30:56):
I haven't.
So it's a series I've wanted toget into.
I haven't.

Brandon Hurles (01:30:59):
I played those PSP games like no other.
You have no idea the amount oftime I spent multiplayer on the
PSP games.
What was that large noise?
I smacked my mic, mark, youcan't smack mics on the podcast,
you gotta save that for later.
Alright, so next we got.

Mark Trobough (01:31:19):
Yeah, this one shouldn't be too big.
Nothing new on this hype, butthe Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered
has problems on the PC and ithas mixed reviews, Go figure.
Horizon Zero Dawn Remasteredhas problems on the PC and it
has mixed reviews Go figure.
It's critical because it forcesyou to have a PSN that has no
cloud saves or doesn't bringover the trophies from the other
version of the game, so youhave to do that over from
scratch.
As well as, unlike the PS5version, which has no problems,

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there is reported graphical andaudio issues in this game at
launch.

Brandon Hurles (01:31:47):
This is why I keep preaching.
If you're going to playPlayStation games, just play it
on console.
Pc always has issues withPlayStation games.

Mark Trobough (01:31:58):
Because they suck at porting their stuff.
They need a new porting studio.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:03):
The porting studio sucks.

Mark Trobough (01:32:05):
Who's the?

Brandon Hurles (01:32:06):
porting studio again doing it.
I'm not sure I can't remembertheir name, but they've done a
lot of ports for PlayStation.

Mark Trobough (01:32:13):
All I know is when they first brought Zero
Dawn over to PC, it was a messand to me it was unplayable.
I went back two years after thefact and it played very well.
The problem is they ported itin terrible condition, like, oh,
we'll fix it later.
Oh, nixie.
In terrible condition Like, oh,we'll fix it later.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:27):
Oh, nixie, nixie's the one doing it.
So yeah, a big F you to Nixie's, because this is getting
ridiculous.
I mean, like this is theproblem, like that's why I say I
mean it's hard for someone thatmaybe they only have a PC which
isn't most people because PC isharder to get into than console
.
Let's be real, it's moreexpensive.

Mark Trobough (01:32:47):
At this point it's getting negligible.
At a $700 price tag you can getequivalent PC hardware.

Brandon Hurles (01:32:55):
That's for the PS5 Pro, that is for the
diehards.
If you're just getting a PS5,that's a different story.
Or you're just getting a Switch.
I mean $250, $300, come on,it's a big difference.

Mark Trobough (01:33:08):
I guess you can play it on your PS5 if you
really want to, and it's goingto play fine but it's just
unfortunate.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:13):
It plays perfect on PS5.

Mark Trobough (01:33:15):
It's unfortunate that they just continue to have
lackluster PC support.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:18):
No, it is very unfortunate.
I think it's ridiculous and Ipersonally I just can't support
it.
Like I would love to havechecked out God of War on PC,
but the whole PSN signing inthing.
I have PSN, I don't mind it,but the thing is it should not

(01:33:38):
be a requirement.
That should not by any means bea requirement.

Mark Trobough (01:33:43):
It really makes me mad, you know and people are
going to complain about that,but I think Sony's just, you
know, is going to stand theirground that way.
You know sales, yeah, which isunfortunate and also frustrating
.

Brandon Hurles (01:33:59):
Very frustrating .

Mark Trobough (01:34:00):
We do have a new game coming to the Switch.
The Stone Age of the Zonetrilogy came to Switch yesterday
.
Really, I don't know if you'veever played those games before.
Yeah, so the Switch version.
They're available for $20 apiece, or you can purchase them
all together for $40 combined,which obviously is the better

(01:34:22):
deal.

Brandon Hurles (01:34:22):
That's a good deal.
The Stalker games are reallycool, really cool games.

Mark Trobough (01:34:25):
I've not played any of them, so I don't have a
whole lot to say, but I knowthis was a lot of people talking
about it Take an FPS gamethat's also an RPG and that's
Stalker.

Brandon Hurles (01:34:37):
It's like a first-person shooter game, but
it's also an RPG, so it's veryunique.
It's a very unique series.
It's very fun too and that's agood price tag man 40 bucks
that's a great price tag forthose.

Mark Trobough (01:34:50):
Yeah, cause these are somewhat Older games.

Brandon Hurles (01:34:53):
Yeah, one of them deals with Chernobyl, which
is really interesting.
I'm trying to remember what theone's called, I forget, like
Blue Sky or Clear Sky orsomething like that.
Yeah, it's so good Cause thefirst game came out in 2007.
Sky or Clear Sky or somethinglike that.
Yeah, it's just so good.

Mark Trobough (01:35:11):
Because the first game came out in 2007.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:14):
Yeah, this is a good deal man.

Mark Trobough (01:35:17):
Yeah, you have a Switch and you like these games.
$40 for all three.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:23):
This is something I would think you
would like too, Mark.

Mark Trobough (01:35:27):
It's 100% worth looking into.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:29):
It is an FPS game, but it's an RPG too.
It's very different than yournormal FPS.

Mark Trobough (01:35:36):
I mean I can go.
Yeah, At that point I might aswell just get it, because I can
get all three of them for thesame price on Steam.
How much?

Brandon Hurles (01:35:46):
is it on Steam?

Mark Trobough (01:35:48):
For the bundle with Stalker, kala Pripyat,
clear Skies and Shadow ofChernobyl, it's $40.

Brandon Hurles (01:35:57):
Good deal.

Mark Trobough (01:35:59):
As of right now, through the 4th, just Shadow of
Chernobyl is like $5 becausethat game specifically is on
sale.

Brandon Hurles (01:36:04):
That's cool.
That's a good deal, man.
It looks like we also got Steam.
Games will now need to fullydisclose kernel-level anti cheat
.
So this is a big one.
This is a big one, yeah.
So I guess kind of what areyour thoughts on this?
Because for me, I think this isimportant.

(01:36:28):
I think it just opens up to letpeople know what kind of
anti-cheat and, in theory, whatkind of access you're allowing
certain uh software to access onyour computer so a kernel level
anti-cheat systems are aderivative technology that
allows virtual world developersto detect it, detect illicit
behavior by identifying malwareand hacks directly on the

(01:36:50):
computer, running them ratherthan through patterns inside a
virtual department, for example,in online games.

Mark Trobough (01:36:58):
So I think if you go on YouTube and look up
Pirate Software Thor, he had ashort from his stream that goes
decently in depth on howanti-cheat works, whether it's
just within the game or howkernel level because I know he
wasn't the biggest fan of it, heused to be like a developer and
stuff like that.
He knows how he deals withhacking and stuff like that.

(01:37:20):
So he's pretty smart on some ofthis stuff, far more than I
ever will be.
But to some degree it'sscanning your computer, not just
the actual game, so it coulddetect a cheat software that
you're not even actually using,but it's like oh, I see it on
your computer.
You're allowing them base-levelaccess to your PC, which isn't
necessary for it.

(01:37:41):
In theory they're not allowedto do anything nefariously with
that, but you're technicallygiving them access to it, which
you know if there were badactors, it's the best thing.
Most people, a lot of people,say it's not a big deal.
Some people say it's due.
It just feels like it's a majorargument, but I think it's just
important that peopleunderstand what's happening.

(01:38:03):
It's the same thing with do youown a game or are you just
buying essentially a license forthis game?
I think it's just a lot ofpeople don't pay attention.
They don't know what this stuffis and, at the very least, if
you know what you're buying you,you know what's going on you
have the ability to say I don'twant this, I'll try to buy it
somewhere else that doesn't usethis.
You know level of anti-cheat orsomething like that.

Brandon Hurles (01:38:25):
Yeah, and then, uh, people that that you know
that are going to cheat in games.

Mark Trobough (01:38:27):
They that, yeah, and there are people that are
going to cheat in games.
They're going to constantly befinding ways around this.
It's not always a foolproofthing, but you're giving them
access to your entire computer,not just the software that
you're running on your computer.

Brandon Hurles (01:38:39):
Right, yeah, yeah, it's a complicated one.

Mark Trobough (01:38:47):
Make your own decision on this, I think for a
lot of people, because until amonth or two ago I didn't know
anything about this.
So it's worth looking into andyou know if you don't like it.
Because most of the majormultiplayer online games are
using current level anti-cheatlike you know your Call of Duty
and stuff like that.
It's 100% using you know thiskind of anti-cheat, so I think
it's just hundred percent usingyou know this kind of anti-cheat
.
So I think it's just you knowworth, at the very least knowing

(01:39:09):
what is happening when you'replaying a game or what's
happening on your computer andstuff like that.
Cause that's, that's the mostimportant thing as far as, like,
online internet security causeyou're never going to be
perfectly secure, but the bestway to combat you know problems
is to just know vulnerabilitiesin your computer and stuff like

(01:39:30):
that in your network.
Yeah, so just knowing isknowing what to do and what not
to do on a home internet versuspublic internet and stuff like
that.
It's just you know people justneed to have the knowledge
available and if you don't care,you would ignore it.
You know more power to you atthat point yeah, for sure, for
sure, I guess.

Brandon Hurles (01:39:40):
On a lighter note, we've got uh, mario kart
toys are back at mcdonald's.
Uh, it's.
So it's all from Mario Kart 8Deluxe.
I would like to try to get thefull set of these.
I'm pretty sure you're going tohave to buy the kids meals for
these, I'd assume Let me put itthis way I have gone through

(01:40:01):
many, many, many different fastfood where there's toys that I
want to get the full set andjust ask to straight up buy them
, and I've done it many times.
Uh, for my ninth birthday Iwant to say it was my ninth
whenever superman returns cameout, I wanted all of the toys
from burger king.
So we went through thedrive-thru.
My dad asks and it was part ofmy birthday present asked hey,

(01:40:25):
can I buy all the superman toysthat you guys got?
He wants to get one ofeverything Bought it.
So I learned from that that Iwent through and I've asked hey,
can I buy one of each of thetoys that you guys have?

Mark Trobough (01:40:36):
Or at the very least, if you're gonna buy a
Hamill, like hey, can I get thisspecific thing, this toy?
You could ask that too.

Brandon Hurles (01:40:42):
If you want to buy eight, nine, you want to buy
.
So the coolest thing is thereis a golden Mario Mario Kart,
and then there's a bronzePrincess Peach Mario, which is
obviously the ones people aregoing to be chasing Rose Gold,
princess Peach.

Mark Trobough (01:40:58):
Apparently these are like the two new ones from
the last time they did this itis Rose Gold in the game, you're
right.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:03):
So yeah, my bad Mark, I'm just joking.
Rose Gold, peach and Gold Mario.
Um, yeah, my bad Mark, I'm justone of the clear-cut.
No, I'm just joking.
Yeah, rose Gold, peach and GoldMario, do you care about these?

Mark Trobough (01:41:17):
Somewhat I might.
I mean, I feel like I go toMcDonald's enough anyways,
because I'm out all the time.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:22):
You are getting a little big these days.

Mark Trobough (01:41:25):
Yeah, you wish.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:26):
No, I'm definitely going to try.
I'll at least ask, go throughand ask, hey, can I buy one of
each?

Mark Trobough (01:41:32):
and try I might at least try to get the gold
Mario, the rose gold Peach andprobably the Yoshi, but they're
the only three that I honestlygot into Yoshi is my main.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:40):
If they did a gold Yoshi.

Mark Trobough (01:41:43):
I just want characters that I want in
something like this, because Imean, yeah, they're, I mean the.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:47):
Bowser's cool too.

Mark Trobough (01:41:50):
They might be worth something in 40 years, but
they're cheap plastic toys.

Brandon Hurles (01:41:52):
I don't care about that, it's more about I
want them.
I don't care about prices, yeah, I just want it.

Mark Trobough (01:41:56):
It's nothing that's really going to be worth
a whole lot of money.

Brandon Hurles (01:42:04):
It's just something neat to.

Mark Trobough (01:42:06):
I don't want to take them out and put them on
the shelf.

Brandon Hurles (01:42:09):
You still can in the plastic baggie.
I will tell you 100%.
I will not remove these fromthe package, but I still want to
get them on.
Anyway, with that said, we'vealso got Nintendo denies layoff
rumors.
Do you have any insight on this, because this is news to me.

Mark Trobough (01:42:30):
No.
So apparently Nintendo came outand said it's layoffs at its
game testing subsidiary, theMario Club company.
There was apparently a rumorfor some Japanese publication
that there's going to be layoffs, and Nintendo essentially came
out and says no, that's nothappening, which is, I guess,
some good news, or it's they'rejust trying to.
They're going to say no, andthen a month later, oh, hey,

(01:42:52):
there's layoffs, because we'vedefinitely heard this before
from the game industry.
No, no, layoffs are coming.
And then, like a month later,hey, we're laying off like 10%
of our workforce.

Brandon Hurles (01:43:03):
Yeah, yeah, it's Nintendo.
Yeah, it's Nintendo, with thelayoffs it doesn't happen as
often.

Mark Trobough (01:43:12):
It's neither a better managed company than a
lot of these other ones.

Brandon Hurles (01:43:16):
This isn't the only Nintendo-related company
faced with news of layoffs.
It was claimed that the MarioClub Company Limited was letting
go of roughly 150 of its 400employees earlier this week, For
the uninitiated.
Mario Club Limited is a gametesting and debugging team that
has been working on manyNintendo games since Dr Mario
back in 1990.

(01:43:41):
Here's my take on this IfNintendo is laying off, I feel
like there's not going to be asbig of headlines because it's
not going to be a big, giganticpublic thing.
Japanese are very.
They don't have to shout out onsocial media that they got laid
off.
They're very quiet,conservative.

Mark Trobough (01:44:00):
Nintendo also hasn't had these spectacular AAA
failures upon failures where itjust feels inevitable.
If Nintendo was going to laypeople off, they would have done
it in the last two years witheverybody else to the same
degree.
They would have been laid offalready.
But it feels like every majorgame Nintendo puts out it's a
financial success.
They're not losing money, likeUbisoft and EAR and stuff like

(01:44:23):
that.

Brandon Hurles (01:44:25):
Yeah, for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:44:33):
There's some new news.
If you're a Power Rangers fan,on December 10th you're getting
a new game, mighty Morphin.
Power Rangers, rita's rewind,which is inspired by the 90s
beat-em-ups oh my gosh, I'm soexcited so think of like what
they did with the Ninja Turtlesgames.
It's kind of the same aestheticwith this.
I don't know how much of thestory, but it looks like it's

(01:44:55):
bringing back some of the oldervillains.
Because what's it?
Goldar is coming back, and Ithink he was one of the old OG
villains for the Power Rangersand stuff like that.
So if you love Power Rangersand the 90s aesthetic for
beat-em-up games, 100% up youralley.
And it's about a month away,yeah for sure we did miss one

(01:45:18):
game that came out in December,just because it's not a big one.
What was that?
Oh, this game, specifically.

Brandon Hurles (01:45:28):
What game?

Mark Trobough (01:45:29):
It's not a major cause.
It comes out in December, butit's not a major release.
But it is a game.
It looks going to be.
It might be decent.

Brandon Hurles (01:45:37):
Yeah, for sure.

Mark Trobough (01:45:38):
Yeah, this is coming.
This is developed and publishedby digital eclipse.
I don't know if you ever heardof them before.
It's coming.

Brandon Hurles (01:45:43):
Oh yeah, for sure clips.

Mark Trobough (01:45:44):
I don't know if you've ever heard of them before
.
It's coming to PC, ps4, ps5,switch, xbox One, xbox Series X
and Xbox Series S, so it'scoming to current-gen and
last-gen consoles, more or less.
I don't know if we got oh yeah,so the starting price will be
$34.99.
The Steam version currently hasa 15% discount, which makes it

(01:46:07):
essentially a $30 game.
If you plan on getting this onPC, you can buy it early and
save some money.

Brandon Hurles (01:46:14):
Let me just do a quick shout-out.

Mark Trobough (01:46:16):
I don't know if $35 is going to be bad for it.

Brandon Hurles (01:46:18):
We are only four members away from our next goal
over there on Twitch.
If you are listening to theaudio, check out our Twitch.
We're just four members awayfrom the ghoul.
Definitely want to shout thatout and definitely appreciate
all the support.
There's a lot of extras thatyou get.
I put a lot of work intogetting extras on there.
You get different emotion cons.

(01:46:39):
There's a bunch of differentstuff that you get as a tier one
sub, so I did want to shoutthat out.
Yeah, and stuff that you get isa tier one sub.

Mark Trobough (01:46:45):
So I did want to shout that out.
Yeah, and I guess, before wemove on to the next section and
stuff like that, we've got twomore in 64 games Nintendo switch
online.
We got both the shadow man andTurok too, yeah.
Or on the Nintendo switchonline.
Turok too, is cool.
So now we're getting more gamesfor the 64, but we're getting

(01:47:06):
more mature rated games as wellcoming there they did that for a
Halloween drop.

Brandon Hurles (01:47:11):
Obviously, we're one day past Halloween, so
unfortunately, but they did itas a Halloween drop since
they're like horror-esque games,which is cool but I mean it's
still good games.
I'm sure people that are fans ofthem are going to play them
regardless so let's break uphere and let's do a little show
and tell real quick.
So for our audio listeners, wesometimes do a little show and
tell, showing different thingsoff.

(01:47:32):
So if you want to actually beable to see, head on over to the
video, over on YouTube we showoff different items that we've
gotten throughout the week orthe past couple weeks and things
like that.
So we just like to do that tokind of break up the podcast and
make it a little moreentertaining.
So why don't you go ahead, Mark?

Mark Trobough (01:47:51):
As I drink.
I guess I technically boughtthese like last Saturday and
stuff like that.
But I got three different games.
The first one was the used copyof the Wii version of the Super
Mario All-Stars.
Heck, yeah, it cost me like $45.
It surprisingly had the actualbooklet inside.
I haven't had a chance to testit.

(01:48:13):
I don't know how much they did.
Obviously, I don't know howyou're going to see on this disc
on the back of it.
It definitely has some whitescratches on it.
Hopefully it'll still actuallywork.
I've got to plug it into my WiiU and actually double-check.
It still even had the Club onit.
Hopefully it's not.
It'll still actually, you know,work.
Um, I gotta plug into my wii uand actually double check.
It still even had the uh clubnintendo inside folder.
I don't know if the code forthat even works.
Well, no, club doesn't evenwork.

(01:48:35):
But it was, you know, somethingnice, something you wouldn't
expect to see at a game.
Stop uh for like their olderused games.
But I saw that I mean, it'slike oh 100, I'm gonna this up.
I never even bought it when itfirst came out on the Wii, which
I kind of regret now.
Obviously, you can play thesegames on the Nintendo Switch,
but it's just good to have oldphysicals, even if they were
like re-releases.

(01:48:55):
And then it's unfortunatebecause they don't have any of
the cases.
I did get two games for the 3DSat GameStop.
They're like $35 a piece.
Just slowly he's got the actualcollectors for it the proper
version for the Wii.
But the other two 3DS gamesbecause it's hard to see on this

(01:49:17):
one is I got the Legend ofZelda, majora's Mask.
I have the Ocarina of Time onmy 3DS, the digital version of
it, and then I've got the LinkBetween Worlds for the 3DS.
I'm trying to slowly grow myZelda collection and these are
two.
It's unfortunate that I don'tactually have the case, but I
can buy a reproduction case andthat'll work just fine down the

(01:49:38):
road.
So those are the three gamesthat I picked up last Saturday.
Technically I don't know ifBrandon's got anything to show
now.

Brandon Hurles (01:49:47):
Yeah, I do, but I'm trying to gather it all real
quick.

Mark Trobough (01:49:50):
I guess technically because I haven't
opened them and I got them inthe mail technically.
Yesterday I got a bunch ofthese Pokemon trick-or-trade
cards, the single packs.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:01):
Oh yeah, you said you got four of them right.

Mark Trobough (01:50:05):
Yeah, because I was trying to make sure.
Can you send me?

Brandon Hurles (01:50:07):
one if I give you the money Because I went and
looked today Three stores, noneof them had them.

Mark Trobough (01:50:13):
I bought them on Amazon.
I couldn't find them in storephysically.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:15):
I looked on Amazon.
I didn't see.
I'll look again it may havebeen sold.

Mark Trobough (01:50:21):
I can send one to you.
Let me look on.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:23):
Amazon first, and then we'll go from there on.

Mark Trobough (01:50:26):
Give me just a second, the guy that I bought
them from.
I bought four of the five thathe had remaining in stock, or
whatever the company was.
It's definitely neat.
I don't know.
I guess he's going to pull itup real quick.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:37):
Yeah, so no, I wasn't pulling that up on there,
trying to do something else.

Mark Trobough (01:50:44):
I know you're pulling that up.
I was trying to do somethingelse.
I know you were pulling that upand I was like, oh, I guess I
got this technically, this oneother thing, oh, and I keep
dropping it.
I'm assuming the odds on thataren't completely terrible.

Brandon Hurles (01:50:55):
For the Pokemon card packs.
Yeah, they're supposed to bepretty good because they're
mixed packs.

Mark Trobough (01:51:01):
My understanding is it was one card a pack and
there's 80 in that big pack, soyou get 80 cards in that.

Brandon Hurles (01:51:06):
Yeah, because they're all singles for
trick-or-treating.

Mark Trobough (01:51:10):
And there's like that's not why I bought them,
but Obviously because you'rerude.
There's supposed to be like 40unique cards or something like
that in total.
So I just bought a bunch ofextra just to hedge my bets
because I didn't know what thedrop was going to be for those.
Yeah, for sure, so the firstthing I bought were
trick-or-treat cards, and Ibought them for me selfishly.

Brandon Hurles (01:51:30):
Of course you did.
So let's see.

Mark Trobough (01:51:34):
I'm a collector, what can I say?

Brandon Hurles (01:51:38):
Hold on, give me a sec, trying to pull this up.
Okay, so the first thing I'vegot is a Flash Boy Plus.
This is for the um super, it'sfor the virtual boy.
Uh, so this, this sticker I putI got.
They sent me out 10 stickers.
Let me design them myself.
This one I did metroid.
Funny thing is metroid wasnever on the virtual boy, but it

(01:52:01):
makes for a cool logo there.
Uh, the next one, this was allblack so I went with with this
scary design for this Flash BoyPlus.
So basically, flash Boy Pluslets you play any ROM on the
Nintendo Virtual Boy.
The downside to these versus myHyper Flash 32 cart that I have
is that you have to load theseindividually every single time.

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So you have to connect it to acomputer, load up the ROM and
then the ROM's on there.
It can hold one ROM at a time.
So you have to connect it to acomputer, load up the ROM and
then the ROM's on there.
It can hold one ROM at a time.
But I mean, there's only whatis it like?
14 games total on the VirtualBoy, so it's not like a huge
deal.
I plan on trying to find asecond Virtual Boy and then I'll
use these with that.
That's kind of the plan.
I've been looking for a secondVirtual Boy for a while because

(01:52:43):
I wanted to make a console-izedVirtual Boy, basically where you
turn a Virtual Boy into aconsole and you can hook it up
to your TV.
That's something I've beenwanting to do for ages.
And then next I got this is anolder one that I never got to
share.
This got sent out to me by afan.
He's just like hey, I just wantyou to have this.

(01:53:04):
So what used to be my friend,john Hancock, put this out.
This is Block'em, sock'em forthe Sega Dreamcast.
This is a homebrew, it's apuzzle game, and John Hancock,
the big YouTuber, made this game.
It's really cool.
Sega Dreamcast game.
I love Sega Dreamcast homebrews.
He just sent this out to me,which is very kind of him, and

(01:53:28):
yeah, it's really cool.
So I haven't got to check itout yet.
I gotta plug the Dreamcast up,but I need to do that.
Next, from Vintek64.
We talked about him last weekon the podcast, but I wanted to
show off a couple things Ididn't get to show off.
So first we've got Battle Clashfor the Super Nintendo, and
this is actually a Super Scope 6game.

(01:53:50):
So this is like kind of anon-rails shooter game.
So you've got to have the SuperScope to work with it.
But you can also use HopefullyI don't get in trouble for
showing it but you can also usethis bad boy.
It says Sega Saturn on it butit has a Super Nintendo plug.
So it's Sega Saturn becauseit's better.

(01:54:11):
It's better than what we got.
The Super Scope 6 is like thisgigantic, ridiculous accessory
that is just over the top.
But they took what was one ofthe best light guns and they put
a cable to make it work withthe Super Nintendo.
What was one of the best lightguns?
They put a cable to make itwork with the Super Nintendo.

Mark Trobough (01:54:32):
That's good.
Mr Coffee asked have you triedthe 3DS Virtual Boy emulator?
I did yeah.

Brandon Hurles (01:54:38):
I've got it loaded up on mine.
It's really cool.
It's a good way to experienceit.
It's not immersive like that,but you get to see the 3D aspect
, so it's kind of cool.
Next, I've got Metal KombatFalcon Revenge for the Super
Nintendo, so I'm going to checkthis one out.

(01:54:58):
This was also sent out byVintech64.
So I got a big video coming outon everything they sent at some
point.
Just a shout out and a plug onthe next video.
The next video will be on thisbad boy, the GameCube stylized
keyboard here, which is probablythe best keyboard I've ever
used in my life.

(01:55:18):
It's got the cherry redswitches mechanical keyboard.
I mean it's just absolutelyphenomenal.
It's missing a few buttons,buttons that I wouldn't give a
crap about, nothing that I woulduse, um but it's got the.
It's got the keypad.
So for most gamers, which iswhat this is oriented at it's
got everything you need, um, andyou've got the cool little um

(01:55:40):
thing here that you can load upwhatever.
I haven't messed with it yet,but you can load up with
whatever image you want.
It's fully RGB.
The RGB is actually really goodtoo.
It's like a good RGB that'sbuilt into it.
Really, really, really cool.
Who doesn't love GameCube?
It's stylized after GameCube,so that's so cool.

Mark Trobough (01:55:59):
Arguably the best console Nintendo's ever made.
I mean seriously, I don't haveit here.

Brandon Hurles (01:56:05):
I haven't showed it off, but they sent out their
new GameCube controller.
That also works with Switch,but it works on original
hardware too.
So, Mark, on a 10 out of 10basis, how jealous are you of
this?

Mark Trobough (01:56:21):
Like a 3, realistically.

Brandon Hurles (01:56:24):
You don't think it's a cool collection piece.

Mark Trobough (01:56:27):
It's cool.
I just don't care about theconsole or the games on the
consoles.

Brandon Hurles (01:56:29):
You don't care about the Virtual Boy.

Mark Trobough (01:56:32):
I don't.
I agree it deserved to be anabject commercial and financial
failure.
Oh, Hot pig baby.

Brandon Hurles (01:56:45):
Done.
Hey, let me put this stuff awayreal quick it's just way too
ahead of its time.

Mark Trobough (01:56:54):
It's just kind of how I see it, not to say it did
stuff that's unique, but it'snot the best experience that you
could have on a console.
At best, it was 15 years toosoon.
The technology just wasn'trealistically there.
As I burp a little bit in themicrophone, unfortunately, and

(01:57:15):
then before we move on to thenext stuff, obviously you got
some more nintendo stuff.
I won't wait till brandon gotback because I know he has this
uh app that nintendo justreleased.
But we're getting new nintendostuff.
Just nothing about the Switch 2, which is both awesome and
frustrating at the same time.
Who you?
No, just because we're gettingstuff from Nintendo, it's just
not the Switch 2.

Brandon Hurles (01:57:35):
Shout out to PalmerFroggyGuy they're in the
chat on YouTube.

Mark Trobough (01:57:39):
Awesome.
Appreciate it over there, man,but no, we got a new Nintendo
music app.
Have you had the chance to geta hold of this at all?

Brandon Hurles (01:57:47):
Boy have I?
I played it earlier, yeah, so Ilistened to it in the gym today
Bangers, bangers, running allthe way through.
No, it seriously has musicpulled from everything.
So it's like Spotify forNintendo and if you think about
it, think about it this way,you've got well over a thousand
Nintendo games where all havedozens and dozens of tracks in

(01:58:10):
the games.
It actually makes sense, likeit actually makes sense.
I like to listen to video gamemusic, a video game vinyl.
I've even got some video gametapes, um, and I think it's fine
.
I like listening to video gamemusic.
You pull up, I pulled upMetroid, the Metroid playlist.
I was like my God, these songsare such a banger.
I forgot how awesome thesesongs are.

(01:58:30):
So, yeah, I'll show real quick.
It's in a music, so sorry forour audio listeners, you'll just
have to tune into the video.

Mark Trobough (01:58:38):
But I downloaded it.
I just want to point out,because it was highlighted, that
the music app alters the FireTemple theme from Ocarina of
Time, essentially featuring asignificantly rare version of
the theme.

Brandon Hurles (01:58:49):
I don't know if you had a chance to listen to
that.
No, I'll pull it up now.

Mark Trobough (01:58:54):
It's got everything.

Brandon Hurles (01:58:55):
You scroll through here.
It's got a lot of stuff,Everything that you can think of
.
That's not all.
You said the Fire Temple.

Mark Trobough (01:59:08):
Or Ocarina of time plus.
It had a shortened 41 secondversion because I believe that
was the thing that had a lot ofthe controversy, because he used
controversy on that.

Brandon Hurles (01:59:17):
There's controversy on this.

Mark Trobough (01:59:19):
The original music for that.
Yeah, because it used anIslamic chain on the original.
That was eventually, you knowold, essentially, and that's in
this app or it's not in this app, I don't know.

Brandon Hurles (01:59:26):
It says it had Because it used an Islamic chain
on the original.
That was eventually, you know,pulled essentially and that's in
this app, or it's not in thisapp, I don't know.

Mark Trobough (01:59:30):
It says it had a 41-second version of the Fire
Temple that uses neither theoriginal or the revised version.

Brandon Hurles (01:59:37):
So I don't know exactly what that means.
I want to look it up now andsee if I can.

Mark Trobough (01:59:39):
So it's just a whole new version of it or
something like that, I mean.

Brandon Hurles (01:59:42):
I'm Okay.

Mark Trobough (01:59:43):
So yeah, I've got it pulled up now, I guess you
have to check it out for sureand double check.
I feel like it's the snap.
I'm pushing up to your mic andit's capturing nothing.

Brandon Hurles (01:59:59):
It's not capturing anything.
No, it's probably a good thing.
Nothing I can hear it, I canhear it, it sounds terrible,
though Not any quality.
Well, anyway, it sounds like Iremember.
Yeah, it's 41 seconds.

Mark Trobough (02:00:15):
Yeah, but I mean probably for the best.
You don't want to catch acopyright strike with music.
Yeah, you can do 7 seconds.

Brandon Hurles (02:00:20):
Though we got 7 seconds, Could you turn?

Mark Trobough (02:00:24):
those into ringtones or something like that
.

Brandon Hurles (02:00:27):
No, I haven't got to mess with it enough.
Let's see.
Add to favorites.
You can download it.
Add to playlists More from thisgame.
Queue is next.
I don't see a download thing.
I mean, there's a downloadthing.
I don't see a.
What did you say?
Ringtones.

Mark Trobough (02:00:45):
Yeah.

Brandon Hurles (02:00:46):
I don't think there's a ringtone saying but I
will say it's pretty cool.
I mean like I can play sevenseconds.
I can play seven seconds.
You know what that's from right.

Mark Trobough (02:00:56):
I mean, your voice just changed to that robot
voice, but it's not picking itup.
I can't hear you.
It's not picking up.
You've been up the scale of theepisode and when it does let's
see academy music from uhpokemon scarlet violet.

Brandon Hurles (02:01:19):
That song is it.
Whether you like that game ornot, that song is a banger.
I listened to it three timestoday.
Have you downloaded it yet?

Mark Trobough (02:01:28):
mark.
No, not yet, but this and thenext app that we're going to
talk about.
I definitely I intend to, and Iknow you have this next one,
but I hold on real quick.

Brandon Hurles (02:01:37):
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you.
I forgot to showcase two things.
Two things I'm going to showoff um, the game game, uh,
everdrive, a game gear x7.
So this is from Krix, this isthe Everdrive.
Play the full game library onthere.
You can also play Master Systemgames on it, which is really
cool, and Sega SG-1000.
And very relevant to that isthe Master Everdrive X7, which

(02:02:01):
is the same thing as a Game Gear.
They're two different consoles,but this can also play Game
Gear games and, again, play SegaSG-1000 games.
So I just wanted to showcasethose.
I pulled those I forgot thismorning to show.

Mark Trobough (02:02:13):
Oh yeah, but this next Pokemon, the trading card
game Pocket, released on the30th.
I've been playing it like crazy.
You sounded really low voice.

Brandon Hurles (02:02:24):
I've been playing it every day.
I'm addicted.

Mark Trobough (02:02:27):
Yeah, but in the first 48 hours it has over 10
million downloads.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Which is insanely popular.

Brandon Hurles (02:02:33):
My buddy sent me a message today.
He's like how are you levelfour already?
And I'm like dude, somebodyadded me to level 27.
What are you talking about?
Because it's not easy to levelup.
You get one card pack a dayunless you do the two.
You can do a two-week gold passtrial for free, where you get
to open up two packs a day forfree.
But the thing is about the gameis you don't just open one pack

(02:02:55):
a day.
Like you, you unlock all thisbonus stuff that lets you be
able to buy, to unlock morepacks, so you can buy more time
and it's free.
Like you unlock all this stuff.
Um, so like, yes, you can putmoney into it, but you can buy
more time and it's free.
Like you unlock all this stuff.
So like, yes, you can put moneyinto it, but you can also do it
just as well without puttingmoney into it.
So depends on how quick youwant to level up and unlock all
the features.
There's features that arelocked behind levels, which I

(02:03:18):
like because I want to be ableto unlock them all, but you also
get to battle people.
You also get to trade withpeople, which is coming soon.
You can't do it yet.
Um, I think it's really cool.

Mark Trobough (02:03:30):
I don't necessarily care about pokemon
cards all that much, but I thinkit's pretty cool stuff yeah,
and then I don't know if you hadthe chance to, but starting
today, november 1st, it startedits first in-game event where
players can earn a specialchancy or meowth card in a
Wonder pick, which I'm surethey're going to have.
Plenty of other events that aregoing to be happening here soon

(02:03:51):
, yeah for sure.
If you don't have it, hop on it.
I assume it's a free app todownload.

Brandon Hurles (02:03:56):
Yeah, definitely .

Mark Trobough (02:03:59):
But on top of that we had two more leaks come
out as far as the Pokemon withthat big Game Freak leak.
That happened like a week ortwo ago at this point.
So Data Miners as far as, like,the timeline for the first five
generation games of Pokemonessentially goes kind of this
way Gen 1 and 3 are set duringwhat they call the original year

(02:04:21):
.
Gen 2 is set three years later.
Gen 4, they say a little laterthan gen 2.
Gen 5 is supposed to be 10years later than gen 2 and then
gen 7 is four years later thangen 5.

Brandon Hurles (02:04:34):
Is how the that is so confusing some degree.

Mark Trobough (02:04:38):
Uh, this timeline's supposed to work that
is so confusing and I believegen 6 is probably not on here
because it's not in the sametimeline, it's in its own.
Well, I think we already knewthat it's a whole separate
timeline Because it's the onlyone that has the Mega Evolutions
, I believe, yeah, megaEvolutions, because Gen 6 has
also the Gen 3 remakes and stufflike that and they're supposed

(02:04:59):
to be separate from the originalGen 3 and stuff like that, so
it's supposed to be disconnected.

Brandon Hurles (02:05:07):
That's why it's Gen 6 isn't technically on this
list, right, yeah, that makessense.

Mark Trobough (02:05:11):
That's what the assumption.
I don't know if it was not justnot found, but we kind of knew
with Meg because it's the onlygeneration with Mega Evolution,
so it's just assumed its ownseparate timeline.
It's not related and stuff likethat.
Right, because even in the gen3 remakes it kind of mentions
that it's technically in adifferent timeline than the
original gen 3.
If you remember those games forthe oras games, yeah, yeah

(02:05:34):
essentially references in thegame.
It's like it's it's similar butdifferent.
So it would make sense.
It's not there.
So if it actually matters toyou and I'm like to honest,
honestly I don't think it reallymatters all that much for the
timeline, because the games arekind of self-contained.
I mean, it's a neat littlething to know about that.
Nintendo at least, or GameFreak, has had some level of

(02:05:57):
alleged internal timeline stufffor their games.
Yeah, for sure, for sure, aswell, as we did get confirmed
leaks that the Pokemon Z gamewas actually supposed to come
out and it got canceled.

Brandon Hurles (02:06:12):
For Generation 6 with X and Y.
See, so it was supposed tohappen.

Mark Trobough (02:06:17):
Yeah, with Zygarde which then later got
pushed to Sun and Moon as like anon-major you know legendary
Pokemon.
Yeah, so it was in developmentbefore it got axed For whatever
reason, which I think we kind ofhad already known.
But it's the fact that you'refinally getting like Leaked
confirmation, like yeah, thiswas a thing and then, for

(02:06:39):
whatever reason, they decided topull the plug on it.

Brandon Hurles (02:06:42):
Pull the plug.
Palmer Froggy Guy asks how youare, mark.

Mark Trobough (02:06:50):
I'm doing fantastic.
I mean I could use a nap, butwhat's new?
I could use a nap at 10 am thismorning.

Brandon Hurles (02:06:57):
Sounds about right.

Mark Trobough (02:06:59):
I think they mentioned the Zykar was supposed
to have multiple forms which Ithink some of them got cut or
released later or something likethat.
I think he's got like what?
Two or three forms or somethinglike that right now.
Yeah, I don't know if that wassupposed to be the original
three or he was originallyplanning to have more To some
degree mentioned.
They were supposed to have abig part do with Z.

(02:07:20):
It was a relatively importantaspect to the plot of that game
until it kind of got scrappedand then it was a minor
legendary in Sun and Moon, ultraSun, ultra Moon.
Yeah.
Yeah, nothing, that's like superspoiler-.

Brandon Hurles (02:07:36):
But there's more coming out.
Just a heads up we got a tweetyesterday that said more is
coming.

Mark Trobough (02:07:42):
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff leaked.
It's going to take a while.
Plus, obviously, we'reexpecting ziger to to make a an
appearance in pokemon z.
A oh one, that's kind of uhthat's kind of up in the air,
but it would.
It be generation six.
It's kind of like an assumedthing.
Maybe they're gonna ideallybring it back and have this
pokemon actually have more of animpact, but it's, at this

(02:08:03):
point's, probably just going tobe weekly leaks as people go and
actually data, mine theinformation and find some stuff.
As long as they don't leakstuff for the new games coming
up, I'll be fine with that.

Brandon Hurles (02:08:15):
Yeah, I don't want them doing that, because
they've already showed imagesand actual video of the game,
which already pissed me off.
I didn't like that at all.
I don't want to see any leaks.

Mark Trobough (02:08:28):
I'm sorry, I don't want to see any leaks
wholesale not necessary yeah butI guess we can get to the big
game that just released with uh.
Obviously there's a lot ofcontroversy around the new
dragon age game oh god, here wego.

Brandon Hurles (02:08:42):
Yeah, let's dive into this.
I want to.
I'm mostly intrigued on yourthoughts because you know a
little bit more than me.
I've seen stuff, but I stilldon't understand the whole thing
.

Mark Trobough (02:08:53):
It has to deal with the fact I'm trying to find
the right one there was some Idon't know if it was leak scenes
, but one of the big ones thatmade the round on social.
I guess there's two big scenesthat made the round on on social
.
But there's, I guess there'stwo big scenes that made the
round on social media, uh,before the game actually came
out, and it has to deal with.
There's a scene where acharacter, essentially you want

(02:09:17):
to say, misgenders one of theone of the other characters and
then she does push-ups and stufflike that.
It's like almost like a twominute long scene and it kind of
comes off as kind of preachy,like forced preachy.
This shouldn't be in the gametype thing, right.
And then there's another scenewhere the pick one of the
characters because this is thisgame allows you to, you know,

(02:09:37):
come out as trans in this gamewhere you have to confront what,
like you or one of thecharacters confronts their
parents, and it's like a wholescene of like I'm coming out and
I was like this just feelswholesale, unnecessary and in
some aspects it feels kind ofhandholdy preachy when it comes
to like some of this genderideology stuff which, definitely

(02:09:58):
with a lot of people, hasreally ringed a bell of like
what is this?
Why is this even in the game atall?
It doesn't add anything to thegame and it's just like it's
already like a fantasy worldwhere there's magic, like you
can just make stuff, be thereand make it fit in the lore and
like, yeah, it exists, moving on, we don't need to spend any

(02:10:19):
time, you know, other than beinglike yeah, this is here, treat
it like a normal world.
You know everyone's to havetheir own opinion.
Some people love it, some peoplethink it shouldn't be there at
all.
And then you go on X or onsocial media or anything like
that.
It's going to be a completecrap show of people just
fighting with each other, likeit always is, always.

(02:10:39):
I don't want to walk the fenceon this one too much.
I don't think it's necessary.
I don't want to walk the fenceon this one too much.
I don't think it's necessary.
I don't think it should be inthe game at all, but I think
that at its core, you can pick adifferent character or change
the language at athenalertsai ifyou want.
We'll be handling your donationand subscription alerts.

(02:11:01):
You're playing audio.
We can also just.
Use voice activation and I'llspontaneously react to you.

Brandon Hurles (02:11:10):
Okay, I got it off.
I don't know what happenedthere, I have no idea.
Something popped up on thestream and it was like an.
Ai character talking, and thenit turned into Biden.

Mark Trobough (02:11:22):
Probably more AI stuff, but there's better ways
that something like this couldhave been implemented regardless
of people not wanting it thereat all.
It could have been handled somuch.
it just felt like it was poorly,poorly written.
With this game and obviouslyit's the easiest thing to latch
onto and it's going to bemassive drama and, like a lot of
things on the internet, you'regoing to be mostly for it or

(02:11:43):
against it.
Obviously there's some peoplethat are in the middle.
It's kind of up in the air asfar as that goes.
I did Let me pull back upbecause I had this pulled up on
Steam at one point before I justswap it out.
Where's that?
This game just launched?
There you go.

Brandon Hurles (02:12:00):
Just a shout out .
We have one follower to go toour goal of 120 followers.
So if you't followed yet or ifyou watch us later, go over
there on the Twitch, give us afollow.
It definitely helps.
We're just one away from ourgoal.

Mark Trobough (02:12:15):
Yeah, some of the other criticisms.
With the writing specifically,it feels like the legit
criticism, because I've onlyplayed Origins, I didn't play 2.
I didn't play Inquisition, Ididn't really care to play
inquisition.

Brandon Hurles (02:12:28):
To be fair, now I have it, but I haven't played
there.

Mark Trobough (02:12:30):
Some of the it feels like legit criticisms came
with the fact that, oh, yourdecision and inquisition doesn't
matter, they're forcing youdown one pipeline as far as how
the story goes, and stuff likethat.
So yeah, there was some stuffwith that.
I'll say this it's at a 77%,it's mostly positive, out of
6,300 reviews on Steam.
But I'll say this, and I thinka 6 to a 7 seems to be a decent

(02:12:56):
rating for this game, becauseI've read people on here that
have 7, 10, 15 hours.
They left a positive review onit.
Technically, they recommend thegame, but they've got legit
criticism.
They actually played the game,they put time into it, but
there's a lot of stuff theydon't like it.
Some people are saying you knowit, it feels like, uh, it's not
the best dragon age, but it'snot the word, just feels like a

(02:13:16):
middle of the road writing attime.
The writing just doesn't feelgood.
It's it's it's lackluster.
Or it's one of the better, atleast from what some of the
steam reviews says.
It's one of the better, atleast from what some of the
steam review says.
It's one of the better games,gameplay wise, but the story
feels extremely lackluster orjust like straight by the book
type of story.
It doesn't do anything uniqueand it's it's on steam, so you

(02:13:38):
can see whether people willplayed it, liked it.
You can see how many hours theyhave on record and how many
hours they had when they left areview.
Yeah, how many hours they haveon record and how many hours
they had when they left a review, yeah, so it kind of lets you
know whether somebody actuallyplayed the game, put time into
it as well.
You can also see if somebody uhrefunded the game as well,
which is just nice to see.
But I think I, I legit thinkthis is higher, just because
there's a lot of people thatprobably saw some of the stuff

(02:14:00):
on online and were just like,nope, not even gonna buy the
game.
That probably would have boughtthe game, played it and left a
negative review, which wouldhave affected, like the steam
review and stuff like that.
Right, because I think I thinkthe metacritics is below 50,
like it's far, far lower.
But, like on steam, you have tohave bought the game to
actually leave a review or onsome of these other platforms
you could technically leave areview without actually buying

(02:14:21):
the product.
There's no way to hard verifyit, uh, because that also brings
up another thing with it.
Is this game just launched andgranted?
This is only the steam, this isnot counting playstation or
xbox, but it it has lacklusternumbers from what you would
expect a game like this to have.
I think, as of right now uh, asof right now they're recording

(02:14:42):
this it's sitting at about 59000 players on a fr Friday night
of its launch weekend, which isin contrast to where the
Monster Hunter Wilds beta at,which is at 166,000 drop off
from where it was.
But it's a weekend beta, butthat's just a beta for a
different game and it's justdwarfing an actual launch title

(02:15:03):
because I believe it had itspeak in current players right
around 70 000.
70 to 77 000 was where it hadits steam peak, and current
players earlier today, I believe, oh wow, which isn't terrible,
but it's for for a game likethis.
You obviously want it to break ahundred thousand obviously, of
course you're not gonna knowwhere the where the steam

(02:15:23):
reviews are, but, like openingweekend, you're gonna have best
numbers just because we can seewhat's on steam.
And the fact that it's gettingit's it's not doing what you
would expect it to do means,like, I think, lifetime.
I think this game will comeclose to breaking even.
I think the game will probablymake money in the end.
You count all platforms,platforms.

(02:15:45):
It's starting to look just offof some of these other numbers
that it might not be.
It might not make them as muchmoney.
It'll still be seen as afailure, even if it actually
makes actual money.

Brandon Hurles (02:16:00):
That's interesting stuff.

Mark Trobough (02:16:01):
I don't know what you've seen with some of this
stuff.
Obviously there's a lot ofcontroversy.
It has to deal I'll be flatwhat you've seen with some of
this stuff.
Obviously there's a lot ofcontroversy and it has to deal
like I'll be flat out it dealswith it's gender ideology.
It's like the defining factorthat people are complaining
about online, Shockingly, I know.
But even the people that playthe game and actually want to
give it that.
I've seen a decent review fromactual players, not industry,

(02:16:23):
not YouTubers, actual peoplethat left reviews that you can
see.
They played the gamesignificant amount of time.
Some people like it, somepeople don't, some people.
It just feels like it wantsmore, but it's.
It's not a perfect game, right,even without this controversial
uh stuff.
When it comes with the you knowmisgendering and you know the
trans stuff.
The game just feels like it,but it's not as good as it

(02:16:47):
should be.
From what I've seen, thewriting just feels kind of bad
at times, or kindergarten.
Some people say it gets betteras the game goes on.
That I've seen on some reviews.
But great, your first few hoursare going to be your first
impression and that's well.
I'll even go into some of thecontroversy with the character
creator.
Yeah.
What's the?

Brandon Hurles (02:17:06):
whole deal with the character creator, because I
saw that pop up you can't havea big butt and you can't have
big breasts.

Mark Trobough (02:17:12):
Let's just be fair.
Those are the two definingfactors that people are going to
talk about.

Brandon Hurles (02:17:16):
Oh man, you gotta have the big butt man.

Mark Trobough (02:17:18):
Some people feel like some of the characters kind
of look crazy or they kind oflook I don't want't say cartoony
because I don't know, but it'ssome.
Some people love it.

Brandon Hurles (02:17:27):
Some people say it leaves a lot to be desired
and that kind of comes down toit reminds me of the one out of
a character images of silenthill to the main character
before yeah, like they made alot of stuff online you can see
people.

Mark Trobough (02:17:39):
People had fun making terrible looking
characters and stuff like that Imean, that's always fun I.
I'm like, if you care, you canadd I believe it's Vitiligo to
your character and stuff likethat.
So if you want that, that'sgreat.
I don't I'm kind of indifferentto that, but it just seemed
like the If you want to be theobvious.
What most people complain aboutis you can't have a big butt
and you can't have big breasts,like, let's just be honest,

(02:18:02):
that's really all the internetreally cares about when it comes
to a character creator.
Do I have big tits or not?
Wow.
I mean, it's Baldur's Gate 3 ishaving like right at where it's
at, or better numbers at times,which is a game that's been out
for a few years, and if you wantto, I guess the better way to

(02:18:23):
look at it is if you want to ohhey, you freak me out every time
.
And if you want to, I guess thebetter way to look at it is if
you want to oh hey, you freak meout every time.

Brandon Hurles (02:18:32):
I don't have anything on screen set up for
the podcast, but oh, you don'thave it on screen, not for the
podcast specifically.
Oh, man Missed opportunity.

Mark Trobough (02:18:41):
It still pops up and I know you use it.
I'm sorry, but I mean it's justone of those things where, if
you care about the whole DEIstuff and stuff like that yes,
it's obviously in Baldur's Gatethree, but that game actually
knows how to properly writestuff into a game where it
doesn't feel forced or preachyto you.
Yeah, like it's trying to like,like this is how you need to do
it.
It's kind of stupid.

(02:19:02):
Stuff like that.
It's kind of stupid and stufflike that, which some people it
matters, some people it doesn't.
I think at the end of the dayit's just it had a lot of bad
publicity.
You had a lot of the Ubisoftstuff, the whole Sweet Baby
stuff.
Now people have a super fixedeye on certain things and even
if it's in a small, like 1% ofyour game, is this.
That 1% is going to behyper-focused on and it's going

(02:19:24):
to make or break your game for alot of people.

Brandon Hurles (02:19:26):
Right, yeah, no, I get it, I get that.

Mark Trobough (02:19:29):
I was never going to play this game, but I never
played Inquisition, so I don'treally care whether this game
was good or not.

Brandon Hurles (02:19:36):
Wasn't Inquisition supposed to be the
better one?
Like the good one?

Mark Trobough (02:19:41):
I know a lot of people that liked Inquisition.

Brandon Hurles (02:19:43):
I have Dragon Age, dragon Age 2?
.

Mark Trobough (02:19:48):
I only have Dragon Age 1 on the 360, and
it's the only Dragon Age I'veplayed.
I also have it on Steam as well.

Brandon Hurles (02:19:55):
Yeah, so I I'm trying to think I have Dragon
Age 2.
What else do I have?

Mark Trobough (02:20:02):
I'm trying to give this game a fair shake.

Brandon Hurles (02:20:05):
Oh, Dragon Age Awakeningening.
I think it's called.

Mark Trobough (02:20:08):
Awakening.

Brandon Hurles (02:20:09):
Is it called Awakening?
Is that one?

Mark Trobough (02:20:10):
of the DLCs.

Brandon Hurles (02:20:12):
I haven't.
I'm thinking of the Xbox gamesI have.
I think it's called Dragon AgeNew Awakening or something.
I could be wrong, could betotally wrong.

Mark Trobough (02:20:24):
No, that's part of Origins.
I think it's the expansion toOrigins.
I've seen that it's.
That's part of origin.
I think it's the yes, theexpansion to origin.
So okay, I've seen that before.

Brandon Hurles (02:20:28):
Yeah, that's what I thought but yeah, I have
dragon age origins.
I have dragon age origins, Ijust, but I mean they're not my
type of games.

Mark Trobough (02:20:35):
If I'm being real with you, yeah, I just think at
its core, from what I've seen,it has a lot of problems with
just triple.
A industry as a whole has a lotof uh, has a lot of problems.
Now, obviously, if you careabout the dei stuff and that's
like a super big issue, that'sgoing to be like the one one
thing that turns you off andyeah, fair enough everyone has
has like a.
You know, if you don't likestuff in the game, then you know

(02:20:56):
don't, don't play it, don't buyit.
That's, that's your right as aconsumer.
If you don't if sorry, I'mstuttering over my words for a
second If there's something youdon't like in a game, don't buy
it.
You speak with your wallet,essentially.
Yes, always, always, speak withyour wallet, for sure, but it
just feels like it falls on theother issues of there's more
than just DEI in this game.
It's just kind of has problemswith the writing as a whole.

Brandon Hurles (02:21:19):
Yeah, I agree, I agree For sure.

Mark Trobough (02:21:26):
I mean, yeah, I'm not going to lie, it's kind of
a turn off to me, but likethat's, that wasn't why I wasn't
going to buy this game in thefirst place.
I wasn't going to buy itbecause Dragon Age isn't like a
big IP and stuff like that.
But I mean, it does haveconcerns for me with Bioware as
far as their next Mass Effectgame.
Yeah, because these games areknown for their writing.

(02:21:47):
Even with that stuff in there,there's a proper way to write a
game.
You can have stuff in a gamethat's irritating, but the
story's still well-written andwell-received.
What's going to be the next game?
I do know they came out, Ibelieve, and said that there's.
I got a double check.
I thought I saved the link.

(02:22:07):
Oh yeah, there it is.
I didn't bring it up.
There you are.
So essentially there's no.
There's like a small win forthis, if you want to call it
that.
There's no post launch DLCplanned for this game.
Essentially they're goingstraight.
Hey, appreciate it, gamer freak, with the 22 bits they're going
to go straight into the nextMass Effect game.

(02:22:29):
One small thing all thecontents there at launch, which
I think should be a thing acrossthe board.
Dlc, for the most partshouldn't be a thing Just put
all the game in at launch.
But I don't know if that wasthem just kind of hedging their
bets ahead of time, of likewe're just going to nix this now
and not deal with it.

Brandon Hurles (02:22:49):
Yeah, I don't know it's a tough thing to speak
on because it's like I reallydon't know, honestly.

Mark Trobough (02:23:01):
I mean, if you're a Dragon Age fan, you've been
waiting 10 years for this,because Inquisition came out in
2014 and I am hearing fromnon-critics that people like the
game, so I mean.
Even from those, but there'sstill obvious people that
actually give the game a decentshot.
There's still problems with thewriting, Like it's one of the
weakest parts of the game.

(02:23:21):
The writing itself, whatever youwant to say about some of the
character designs, the visualdesign and stuff like that and
the combat.
It just feels like the writing,which should be Bioware's
strength, isn't their strengththis time around.

Brandon Hurles (02:23:31):
Yeah, and it's like I don't know man.

Mark Trobough (02:23:35):
Appreciate the 69 nice bits from Gamer Freak.
Oh nice, that's awesome.

Brandon Hurles (02:23:41):
Thank you so much.
I know what you were asking forI.

Mark Trobough (02:23:46):
That's awesome.
Thank you so much.
I don't know if you were herebefore, but we definitely talked
about some Godzilla stuff.

Brandon Hurles (02:23:48):
I know you talked about it earlier in the
podcast.
Yeah, we were talking Godzillaearlier, so definitely rewind
the podcast when you're done.

Mark Trobough (02:23:51):
Yeah, you get the chance to rewind, for sure.

Brandon Hurles (02:23:54):
Yeah, love it.

Mark Trobough (02:23:56):
I know, there were people talking about,
because what's it?
Morrigan, I think, is her name.

Brandon Hurles (02:24:01):
Morrigan To some degree From Death.
To some degree it feels likeshe got from Deathstalkers.

Mark Trobough (02:24:05):
No from Dragon Age.

Brandon Hurles (02:24:07):
Oh sorry, I'm sorry.
I thought you were talkingabout Morrigan from
Deathstalkers.
You sent me some sexy thing ofMorrigan the other day on
Twitter.

Mark Trobough (02:24:16):
You look at her design and origins and look at
her design in this one, shelooks like a completely
different person.
She doesn't look the same.

Brandon Hurles (02:24:22):
Yeah, that's never good.

Mark Trobough (02:24:26):
I think it's a bigger indication where people
are just far more hesitant tobuy triple a games that launched
because they're starting to getburned on some bad games.
Yeah, so a lot of people arewaiting and they see something
they don't like, they're notgoing to buy it and it's not
good for the triple a industrybecause you generally make most
of your money like the firstweek to like the first month the
game launch when it first comesout.
That's going to make or breakwhether or not you you know it's

(02:24:48):
a successful game for sure yeah100%, 100%.
This is going to be on on gameof the years, regardless of it
fails financially, between nowand December this is going to
make the top five game of theyear award games.
Yeah, it's going to make the.
It's going to make game of theyear on the game on the Game
Awards, the big one that wegenerally watch.

(02:25:09):
I don't think if it's afinancial failure it shouldn't
make it.
No, I agree, wouldn't surpriseme.
I appreciate GamerFreak giftingone tier sub to the community.
Definitely appreciate it.
Yeah, thank you so much.

Brandon Hurles (02:25:25):
I ended up gifting one sub to to to the
community definitely appreciateit.

Mark Trobough (02:25:26):
Yeah, thank you so much I ended up gifting one
sub to mr coffee, so definitelyappreciate everyone's support mr
coffee yeah, I don't.
I don't know if you hadanything more you want to talk
about.
I know the podcast is already.
We had a lot to talk abouttoday already, but I mean, we
didn't get through everything,did we?
Oh, we got them, but there'slike one more thing after this

(02:25:47):
uh, dragon age stuff.

Brandon Hurles (02:25:48):
Yeah, we'll get them dive into that real quick.

Mark Trobough (02:25:51):
But for a game I don't plan on playing, I don't
have a whole lot more to sayabout it other than the, the big
stuff.
Uh, if you want to know moreabout it, for sure, just cause
whether it's on extra.
On YouTube you can definitelyfind some of the clips that
people are talking about as faras the, the, the misgendering
scene and the, the, the comingout as trans to your parents and
stuff like that.
But the game's already out, soprobably better off watching

(02:26:13):
some live stream.
I know Aspen gold as much as heis probably not going to like
the game, he was going to livestream and stuff like that.
There's probably a lot of otherstreamers gonna, yeah, play it
for content and then, you know,maybe they might change their
opinions from before it came outand stuff like that.
Or you can go to other properyoutube drama channels that'll
just absolutely dog crap on thegame yeah, no doubt there are a

(02:26:34):
few that I know that I follow,that that do, and they're.
They're kind of funny about it,at least to me, uh yeah, for
sure, oh, yeah, yeah four morebits from gamer freak.
Definitely appreciate it.
I just want to support myfavorite podcast.
Uh well, we definitelyappreciate it yeah for sure, we
appreciate that a lot.

Brandon Hurles (02:26:51):
Yeah, so I guess ghost face we're talking about
ghost face, yeah.
Yeah, so ghost face is comingto Mortal Kombat 1 not a
complete surprise, but it isinteresting that they picked
that particular character.
I think it's cool.
I think ghost face is a coolcharacter.
Complete surprise, but it isinteresting that they picked
that particular character.
I think it's cool.
I think Ghostface is a coolcharacter.
I'm interested to see how he isin combat, though, because

(02:27:13):
Ghostface is really just aperson, you know, behind a mask.

Mark Trobough (02:27:20):
How recently ago did you play Mortal Kombat 1?

Brandon Hurles (02:27:22):
I haven't even picked it up yet.
I've been waiting to find itfor like 20 bucks.
Here's the problem Switchversion't even picked it up yet.
I've been waiting to find itfor like $20.
Because it's here's the problemSwitch version's terrible.
That's fine.
I play it on PS5.
But I haven't seen it for anyless than $50 yet.
And I'm like Look, I lovefighting games, but this game is
universally not loved.
It's not among the top fiveMortal Kombat games.

(02:27:44):
So I already know it's not likean amazing game, but I still
want to play it.
So I'm waiting to find it forlike 20 bucks.
I'm hoping Black Friday I findit.
And the one I regret notgetting at launch is Super
Street Fighter 6.
I mean Super Street Fighter 6.
I still got to get that.
Haven't seen that drop down atall yet.
So my hope is Black Friday Ican finally pick up both of

(02:28:05):
those, as well as the new Tekken.
So because I'm on my fightinggame phase right now, I'm
getting back in the fightersagain.
After Dragon Ball Sparking Zero.
I played a couple of rounds ofthat without you and the game is
just.
It's beautiful.
The Dragon Ball lore,everything that happens in it,

(02:28:26):
the fact that there are 20characters that all have a story
mode, so you can play the gameforever.
They all have their own storymode.
Goku Black even has his storymode from Dragon Ball Super.
It's crazy.
There's so much to the game.
It's not just a fighting gameby any means.
It's not a traditional fightinggame at that, but yeah.

Mark Trobough (02:28:52):
Yeah, no, 100%.
I'm surprised they missed theopportunity to have this
character come out.
You know, in October and stuffLike early access, you get this
character on the November 19thand everybody else gets it on
the 26th.
Seems like a missed opportunityto have it come out for
Halloween.

Brandon Hurles (02:29:12):
Yeah, kind of is , isn't it?

Mark Trobough (02:29:17):
Yeah, I don't know if there's other things.
I did pull something else upjust because I tagged doing it,
but I forgot to bring in thenotes.
There is a game and it looksabsurd.
I think I started.
I shared it on social where Itagged you.
I know I re-shared it on theAnime Junction cast on X, but
it's like an absurd Japanesegame because it starts off with
some character stomping the crapout of someone's character's
head Totally brutal.

Brandon Hurles (02:29:40):
Apparently this new game is.

Mark Trobough (02:29:42):
I shared it out, I tagged you and it's on the
Anime Junction cast because Ireshared the actual trailer for
it.
It's a game called Showa,american Story.
Essentially, it's supposed tobe a love letter to the 80s pop
culture and this was written upby Grums on X.

Brandon Hurles (02:30:02):
Is it the Sweet Baby Inc.
Partners with the Pow Group, oris it something different?
What do you mean?
I'm looking at what you taggedme in.

Mark Trobough (02:30:10):
I also just re-shared it recently, so you
can find it there.
Based off his definition, it'sa alternate timeline where Japan
conquers the USA and makes it acolony.
There are zombies and thepresident watches anime at
precisely 6.30pm every day andmust not be disturbed.
Take a game that you think theJapanese would think of America

(02:30:35):
and push it to the extreme, andthat's exactly what this game
looks like.

Brandon Hurles (02:30:39):
Wow, yeah, it looks brutal and extreme and it
looks amazing.
It looks crazy.

Mark Trobough (02:30:44):
It doesn't have a release date Via the Steam page
for it.
The release date is to beannounced.
The developer is NetcomEntertainment and it's being
published by 2P Games.
Wow.
That looks really cool, Anamazing Japanese type game.
It looks like they've only hadone other game Dying, Reborn in
2018.

(02:31:05):
Interesting At least via.
Steam.
But I mean, I saw this game.
It just looks it's like thatJapanese-style game where you
just it's extremely insane andit just looks real fun.

Brandon Hurles (02:31:19):
Yeah, it really does, for sure I think this was
announced fairly recently.

Mark Trobough (02:31:23):
I think it may have been announced this week or
here recently, but it looksabsolutely amazing Like, oh yeah
, I want to play this game whenit comes out.
It definitely does At the veryleast you got me with the amount
of brutality that it has inthis game.

Brandon Hurles (02:31:38):
Yeah, no doubt I'm all for it.
I just want to say Atari justannounced an Atari Jaguar
freaking hoodie.
Just want to say atari justannounced an atari jaguar
freaking um hoodie.
I I have, I absolutely have toget it.
I'm just saying sorry, I had tomention they got a t-shirt too
30 bucks.
They got a hat too.
Uh, atari, why you do this tome.

(02:32:01):
I'm gonna have to get that.
Have to get that.
I love the Jaguar.
That is so cool and I guess.

Mark Trobough (02:32:08):
Just to clarify, this is supposed to be like a
Japanese America, but apparentlyNetcom is a Chinese game studio
, so I don't know what's goingon over in China, but they're
making some insane games here.
Recently, sounds like it,they're trying to make it a
Japanese style game, which isalready insane yeah, for sure,
but yeah, I'd definitely checkit out.
make it a Japanese style game,which is already insane, yeah
for sure.
But yeah, I definitely check itout.

(02:32:30):
If you're up that kind of alley, I guess we'd be going for
about two and a half hours now,or just a little over.
I don't know if there'sanything else you wanted to
bring up before we kind of hitit out.

Brandon Hurles (02:32:39):
No, I think we're pretty much good.
Do we have any comments to hit?

Mark Trobough (02:32:44):
I think we got most of the stuff.
Got some.
Have any comments ahead?
I think we got most the stuff.
Get some other stuff.
Gamer freaks reminding mrcoffee to renew his membership
next month.
I said of course certaincharacters have special,
specific grapple to replicatethe, the anime and stuff like
that.
I don't know that's from whatwe just talked about, her from
the other motor combat game,because I miss yeah got
published the boys that theyneed to reach their goal.

(02:33:07):
Dude, let's get them to theirgoal, hello.

Brandon Hurles (02:33:09):
Heck, yeah, let's go.

Mark Trobough (02:33:12):
Yeah, I think we all got to renew and stuff like
that.
Mr Coffee just put some otherstuff.

Brandon Hurles (02:33:16):
I think I've even got a membership on there
on my regular Twitch profile toGame Junction.
Yeah, I think you do too right.

Mark Trobough (02:33:25):
Yeah, it just happened before we headed out I
was like let me double check Xreal quick, so you don't think I
kind of posted.
I was like, oh, I forgot aboutthat.
Plus, on top of that, I'm stillwaiting on the Dead Alive
Extreme Venus Vacation Prism tocome out.

Brandon Hurles (02:33:43):
Oh yeah, I had to import a PS4 game that never
came out here.
I know that.

Mark Trobough (02:33:48):
If I have to import that game, I'm going to
100% import that game.

Brandon Hurles (02:33:52):
Do it, I dare you.

Mark Trobough (02:33:55):
I probably got around to getting a 360 Dead or
Alive Extreme.

Brandon Hurles (02:34:00):
There you go.

Mark Trobough (02:34:02):
Attractive women in bikinis.
You had me.
You had me.

Brandon Hurles (02:34:06):
You had me All right, guys.
Well, we appreciate everybodywatching, listening wherever
you're at.
Uh, be sure to check us out onall the audio podcast platforms
Apple, spotify, pod chaser, um,pocket cast, all that stuff.
We're on all of them.
We're on 28 plus Uh.
And then be sure to go over andsubscribe to the Junction

(02:34:28):
Network channel where we havethe Anime Junction cast.
We have that every single week.
We also have we're going to bedoing special stuff there.
We just did a live episode.
I'm sure me and Mark will comeup with some other extra fun
things to do.
That's not just a once-a-weekpodcast, because that does get
kind of monotonous.

Mark Trobough (02:34:49):
I guess we forgot to shout out the beginning, but
this Sunday I'm trying to dothis consistently.
But Sunday at noon Eastern,I'll be doing a live stream on
top of what we're doing onSaturdays as well.
I just want to put that outthere.
I need to push that on thesocials.

Brandon Hurles (02:34:59):
Yeah, so we've got our live streams every
Saturday at 8 pm EasternStandard Time Mark is going to
start streaming on Sundays too.

Mark Trobough (02:35:10):
The weekends I can make work consistently.
The weekdays it's kind of up inthe air what days I'm free and
what days I'm busy.

Brandon Hurles (02:35:17):
Understandable for sure.

Mark Trobough (02:35:19):
I just kind of forgot to publish that out at
the beginning.

Brandon Hurles (02:35:23):
We've got a lot of stuff coming.
It's going to be a lot of fun.
We hope to see you'all soon.
Be sure to leave uh, reviews,um, five stars, whatever, on the
different audio platforms andthen, if you are an audio
listener, head on over toyoutubecom, slash at game
junction media to get kind ofthe full in-depth of everything
that we do our videos, ourshorts and, of course, watching

(02:35:46):
the video which is our bread andbutter.
So we appreciate all of you andwe'll see you all next week.
Have a great week everybody.

Mark Trobough (02:35:55):
Yeah, see y'all next time Later.
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

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