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March 24, 2025 88 mins

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This week, I had the chance to FINALLY connect with Lucas Zellers of Mage Hand Press about "Book of Extinction," which he's been working on for more than four years. It's an amazing bestiary that's really more like four books in one. I have so much to say about this book, but you can listen/watch the podcast to hear it all. We also have a couple of Deep Dives with Lucas on Patreon: We discuss the saddest extinction stories in the book and then, next week, we talk about his newest project, "Glatisant," which he wrote while shifting gears after the completion of "Book of Extinction."

Lucas Zellers is an author and game designer at the intersection of natural history and game design. A marketing professional by day, educator by later in the day, and birdwatcher by whenever possible, Lucas helps mission-driven organizations of all sizes reach the right audiences through sustainable long-term growth strategies. He's also one half of Graftbound, an independent publisher of incisive, tactile games that explore life's richest relationships. He'll always play a warlock, roll a chunky d20, or add too much garlic.

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