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Thom Pollard (00:00):
Everyone could use the message of positivity
sometime. Yes, this is aboutMount Everest, but this is about
the mystery about the pursuit ofwhat is true to your heart and
soul. This is the second ofthree segments with my good
friend and colleague, mountainclimber extraordinaire, Andy
poets who was with me in 1999.
On the Mount Everest search forMallory and Ervin, this is a

(00:23):
good one. Be sure to subscribeif you like what you hear,
because there's more to come.
Have a beautiful day. Andypoets, we go back to 1999. And
on Everest, Mallory nerve andresearch expedition. The one
thing I remember distinctly isthat you were completely

(00:45):
unmotivated about the summit,because you had already been
there. And so the summit was amight have been icing on the
cake. But I always rememberthinking, wow, this, this guy
isn't even motivated by thesummit. He's just interested in
this in this search of amystery. So you're, you're

(01:08):
pulled by the mystery? How'dthat how's that work?

Andy Politz (01:11):
Because it's also it was a lot of uphill between
where we were in the top. So Ididn't have to do that much
work. Just the you're goinggood. 27? Yeah. Good. You know?
Yeah, the story of that is, isbigger than a second summit bid,

(01:33):
far more fascinating and farmore useful to humanity? You
know, how do we go deep into theunknown? This is what those guys
were doing. And they just did itone step at a time. And, you
know, they were told early on atthe beginning of the quest and

(01:53):
21, probably, that Jerry isgonna go out there and die in
there. I believe there's, youknow, they also came off a world
war one talked about place, goand die. And they just took one
step at a time while I'm okay.
Now well, let's try one morestep. And that's the recipe for
how you do big things that youdon't know how to do. You model

(02:15):
it as best you can. And, and aguy like Irvine's takes the best
oxygen design, known to man,some college students. And he
goes, Well, this is fragile.
Well, let's turn that bottleupside down. So you it's not as

(02:36):
fragile and improves the designone step at a time, and you'll
gain enough insight to learn howto move forward into the
unknown.

Thom Pollard (02:48):
Interesting, I guess I had never thought about
that. If you identify with oneor the other, who would you say
Mallory or Ervin? And I grantedthey're just two people. And
we're all different. But isthere do you identify with
Ervin? Because that's kind ofwhat you do. You're a tinkerer,
you fix things, you're workingon engines? He's closer

Andy Politz (03:11):
to maybe what I'd like to be I'd like to be good
at something. No, I can't say Iidentify with one. That would
mean I'm like standing thereshoulder to shoulder with them
if the same elevation. Nowthey're way up here. Yeah. And I
have great respect for that.
Generation and their ability totake on difficult projects. You

(03:31):
know, like, digging out afterthe war, talking about a
difficult project.

Thom Pollard (03:40):
For sure. Andy, so you had hinted at that idea of
the mystery being much morevaluable to humankind. And I
agree, and I you know, and sopeople will, the naysayers will
will look at the Everest stuff,the people way on the outside

(04:01):
and go, who cares? It's just amountain and you guys are so
fully yourselves and all that.
And, and there there's truth tothat on some levels. But I think
that every every slice ofsociety is evident in
mountaineering as it is inbaseball, or woodworking and
shipbuilding or whatever. But Ialways felt like that in in the

(04:25):
mystery part, or even in theEverest part. It's the idea of
drawing people in to going aftersomething greater than
themselves. It's, it's ahumbling thing. It's, I don't
talk about conquering Everest.
It conquers us. And you hintedat that when we talked a year

(04:47):
ago after you got off the summitin 2021. About that idea of, you
know, we're word lucky to bethere. And if we can bring
people into the conversation,and have them become in aspired
to go after the impossible thanEverest is an Everest Everest is

(05:08):
a motivator for life and for forendeavor and right. You know,

Andy Politz (05:15):
I think you know, like yourself, Tom, I made a
small portion of my living, notlike yourself and that affected
me. I made a small portion of myliving, doing talks, and every
question that was asked. Irealized in time this is like
over 20 years I realized thisevery question they're asking,

(05:39):
Would I be able to climb myMount Everest, and every answer
I gave was always absolute. Youcan do and none of its ease.
There isn't a piece of that yourfamily your work. Anything is

(06:01):
going to be easy to pull off.
It's all hard every it's notconvenient. Timing is bad.
Funding is horror is terrible.
But it's life changing.
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