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This week Tahoe and Loon travel down to the Sex Down South convention in Atlanta and sit with the founders Tia and Marla to discuss how they met and blossomed some pretty amazing kickbacks into the only all black sex positive convention that Sex Down South is today. We discuss some of the NSFW happenings at the convention, the seminars that gave Tahoe some deep introsection about himself and his feelings on being a Cishet black man in a queer and female centered space. This was such a great conversation! We look forward to seeing you all next year at Sex Down South! ENJOY!!
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This week Tahoe and Loon travel down to the Sex Down South convention in Atlanta and sit with the founders Tia and Marla to discuss how they met and blossomed some pretty amazing kickbacks into the only all black sex positive convention that Sex Down South is today. We discuss some of the NSFW happenings at the convention, the seminars that gave Tahoe some deep introsection about himself and his feelings on being a Cishet black man in a queer and female centered space. This was such a great conversation! We look forward to seeing you all next year at Sex Down South! ENJOY!!
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Join the sex down south community and buy tickets for Sex Down South 2026 at SexDownSouth.com
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It was good y'all, welcome back to the Hard or
Soft Show. Before we get into it, I just wanted
to give a little disclaimer. First of all, we are
this is an amazing episode with the founders of the
Sex down South Convention, Tia and Marla. We did it
(00:23):
live at the convention, so and it was really like
running gun, really like, yo, we have an hour to
get this done. We recorded on like two different cameras,
so the audio seems a little sh you know, weird
because some of it is in your left ear, some
of it is in your right ear. But man, you know,
just tune in, check it out. It's an hour, you
(00:44):
know what I'm saying. It was so many gems that
would cover here about how they connected, how their friendship started,
and how it g blossomed into the Sex down South convention,
the different things. They're crazy thing is that we Loon
and I witnessed this weekend at the Sex down South Convention,
(01:07):
and we also spoke about what it's like, you know,
being a straight man sis head straight man at a
convention that is centered around women and queer bodies, you
know what I'm saying. So that was just a very
interesting perspective Loon Courtney yesterday and I will be talking
(01:29):
more about it on next week's episode. But this episode
is featuring the founders, so I'm hoping you guys get
into it. One thing I do want to say, I've
never had an experience like this, and it came at
a great time for me when thinking about my brand
and thinking about what we do and what our purpose
(01:51):
is to be around such amazing energy, spiritually cleansing energy
all weekend. It it was something that definitely make me
take stock and who I am and what my purpose
is out here, especially in the sex positive community. So
(02:12):
hopefully you guys pick up on some of that energy
and hopefully we can transfer that into you know, furthering
our brand into a just a really positive direction. So
without further ado, we're gonna start this episode. Don't forget.
Hardest offt is having a Halloween party November first. Okay,
(02:33):
the response has been overwhelming. It will We will have
the Kings and Drinks. We grabbed some of the tops
that we met out at UH Sex down South. They
will be bringing their talents to Kings and Drinks to
be to give you a whole new Kings and Drinks experience.
You know, I like giving different things. You know, we
(02:54):
have a lot of the same things you know for
people to try. But what we got for y'all this
time around, it's going to be incredible. So if you
have not been vetted, please go to Thehard Orsoft Show
dot com, click the vetting form and fill it out.
It takes you about three minutes, really nothing. But I
(03:14):
also want you to take note of the fantasy section.
Right we are picking out people that give fantasies that
can be done, you know what I mean. Now we're
not talking about yo, I just want to get my
man sucked by two women, or you know, I want
to all girl org like YoY. Y'all can do that.
That's up to y'all. Y'all gotta take you know, personal responsibility.
(03:35):
But if you have a fantasy like one person was, like,
y'all want to be walked like a dog and I
want ten guys to splash on me, maybe we could
try to make that happen for you, you know what I'm saying.
So we're taking out certain ones that we're going to
reach out to, the people who we find their fantasies
to be something that maybe we can curate. Maybe we
(03:56):
can put on during the actual play party after the
Kingston Dream, and we're gonna try to make that happen.
We've spoken to the Navy, our you know, grand community,
and they are open to participating in this, you know
what I'm saying. So I think that is gonna be
a great change. We're also gonna have a live DJ
during the party on the dance floor. On the party
(04:19):
floor with all of those beds, We're gonna have a
live DJ right there giving it up. So it's you know,
it's less of a like a you know, Miguel and
Brent fires and more party is you know what I'm saying.
So let's let's get the vibes going. Celebrate November first
here in New York City as we do our I said,
(04:40):
I want to say third annual Halloween party, which is
generally our biggest party of the year. Now, if you
have been vetted, just email us. Email us at Hard
Orsoft Events at gmail dot com. Let us know you've
been vetted. Well, check the vening form. If you have
been vetted, we will just send you the ticket link.
If not, go over the at the Heart Orsoft Show
(05:01):
dot com. Fill out the vening form and once you've
been approved, you will get the ticket link. Keep in
mind early bird tickets are closing around September twenty second,
I believe, and then the tickets go to full price,
so if you're you know, on it, you can catch
the amazing discount by going over and coppying you an
(05:22):
early bird ticket. I got that idea from Ziria Noughty
Knights and it's been really working out for the community.
So hey, we're here, let's get into this amazing episode.
Hope to see you at the Halloween party. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Why you don't ever play with my nipples? I got
nipples too.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It's my turn to get tied up knocking handcuffs though
I got PTSD. Welcome the heartest soft where men speak.
So hopefully somebody will understand when.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You say freaky?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What's freaky?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
What you mean by freaking?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
If I do this, you're not going to tell your friends?
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know, I don't really have any but now I have.
Now you know I was blind, but now I see
that's it's more like that this is not true.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
She's making up.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I think she's making it up.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
No, I literally sent you a message right after you
almost fit me on your Instagram.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I saw that I did.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I was like, you almost send me with your car.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
This is not true. Wait, let's just wait till This
is a great way to start. You didn't see that.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You didn't what you saw, you know, because you didn't
see me. No, no, no, you saw me at the Okay,
we'll talk about it. Oh we are okay.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Exactly, So you heard all of all of these. Usually
I want to say lies, but untruth truth.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
This is not untruth. These are actual events. Doesn't want
correct this is what he does.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Right, what you're gonna talk about? You? Well, we're here, right,
and Tia actually invited us here from Exactica, but the
way she did it was kind of unorthodox, like she
hissed me. He's like, yeah you first she come, walks
up to me. It was really great. Walks up to
me and Exacta and she's like, look, I do the
only black all black all well, you know Queer Center convention,
(08:04):
sex convention. That's interesting.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Who is that? Somebody helped.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And that was great. And then about three hours later
I get a d M. You almost hit me with
your car. What are you talking about? You. I was there.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I was in the car, was driving.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
You were driving.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I was ready to throw him under the bus. I
was absolutely ready to throw you on the bus. Did
you see her? Yes? I did.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
That's why I face we so familia.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
What were you saying?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
This is bad?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I don't like what's going on here.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
I was and I was socialized like a man. So
you're not gonna win.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
What does that mean? Socialized like a man?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I was?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Okay, okay, So name awesome gender traits that you think
me had.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I want to say. We focused on tasks like we
center on task. So I just need to get this stune.
You don't do that. I do that. We may do that,
but you don't because I've watched you operate and you'll
take three steps. I gotta do something. You take three
steps there, and then you be.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Like it's because like you are a kite, but for us,
you're the string, you know what I mean? Like, and
then I'm the kite.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
What does that mean? Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
So it's an analogy I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
And she's usually the one that goes with the wind
and usually keep keep her grounding.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
The worlds are reversed, No, they're not reverse.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
What means you being the kite or the string?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You're always the kind, right, I'm always?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now what is your relationship? How did you guys even
get together? So I'm sitting here with Tia and Marla
of the Sex down south and him he's here too, Why.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
A separate.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Is that supposed to be? Could? It's bizarre?
Speaker 9 (10:09):
He's bizarre in the street.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Cannot before I actually in the street right, we went
to Atlanta. I just have to. It's just the thing
that I do. I've always, you know, I've lived down here.
I love house. We see a tram, the trolley right
in the street, and he's like, oh, they got bus trains?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
What is it? A bus or train?
Speaker 8 (10:35):
So I don't need the hood that off?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
So I see, I'm fami the buses, the trains where
I'm from. The trains outside on the street, underground, in
the sky. So I see like a train outside. My
mind just couldn't come it's a bus or a train.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I was like, it's just ridiculous. They've had these in
cities across America since at least one hundred years.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Well, language is prescriptive. We make it up as we go. Yeah,
so them made up a new little especially period a
language like on a on a regular How do you
know so much about language? Because I have ADHD and
(11:27):
I stay up all night researching things. And I used
to want to be a linguistic anthropologist. What then I
realized there was no money in that, and I like money.
What I wanted to be a linguistic anthropologist?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Help? Just what? You gotta start making excuses for this
because didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Even public school?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
All right, New York six.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
But you said you didn't leave the hood. You don't
go to hood?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Okay, okay, what.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Like the sip of my drink?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No, I mean you've been giving us nothing but libations
or the last days.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Absolutely was the last time you had alvation?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
This morning? You're oh, before today I have the closing
the blessing out given us shots of tequila or cannabis
infuse elimination. Yeah. I wouldn't know where they found where
they found each other, no.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Question, you were.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Here, Okay, so we believe. In two thousand and eleven,
I was working for a magazine. Of course, that magazine
which wasn't a riting magazine, hey, y'all, And we had
a pop up in Atlanta, and essentially now that I'm
(13:03):
looking back, it really was like the beginning of what
SDS sort of grew into. And I needed a sex
educator that was local and that was free, so we
don't know money, and I just googled and Marla was
the first person who popped up, and well, there are
a couple of people who popped up, but she was
the first person who popped up. And something about her
bald head just like really drew me. And you know
(13:25):
what I'm saying, look at that head, I'm gonna shoot them,
you know what I'm saying. And it was bald, it
was skinball, and I was like, Okay, this is this
is the person. So I invited her to the event.
She did an amazing job. And then she's a tourist
and I'm a cancer.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We didn't know this at the time.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Yeah, we didn't know this at the time, but yeah,
she's a tourist, I'm a cancer. And then we started
to uh oh, I bought some and then I don't know,
we just started to be friends. And I do think
it was for two reasons. Our zodiac chart that I have,
I churned it out and figured out what with it.
(14:02):
And she has a bestie that's also a cancer. So
she was prepared for me because if you know a cancer,
you know anybody know cancer merging.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Wait, okay, not that I have it. I don't have
any objective objection because I will probably I will listen.
I will probably agree with most things that y'all said about.
But what was this whole?
Speaker 6 (14:35):
I first?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Oh, yeah, you go first, I'll go second.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Every I know it's illusional, but I mean, like, I know,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Like my sister is sitting out there,
she's a people know.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I know this.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I believe it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know that's so good with words, very quick, very quickly.
I would push back because you delusional when it's more
that we're dreamers. That is what they say with dreams.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I have rebuttal for that. But Marlay, if you would
have rebuttle, you didn't remote because I'm not. I can't
rebuttal us what you're saying about your No.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I I just I am me Taurus. So pisces are
very sensitive for me.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
And because y'all feel so many fucking emotions, it's very
difficult for me to process because I'm like, get your
ship together, let's get cancer, and for you less less
like more logic less emotion. So there there's there's there's emotion,
(15:46):
big emotion, but there's some logics.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Is like all the moments. That's where the delusion comes from.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
You know what's so funny and the reason I'm here,
So he don't go to trust mean by himself.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So I just and I'll just come. He's bound to
not make it home on the time.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And wait, what are you trying to say.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
After saying that it leads to the imagination for your dreams.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I will dreams, I will say. Now this is I'm
not gonna make this a whole zodiac battle, right, but
male cancers. Yeah, I don't even know how y'all are
saying this, but obviously y'all have your experience with maces
and I get that, Like we are a lot, right,
we we gaslight ourselves, we blind ourselves, like we it's
(16:35):
a lot. Living in this body has been like very frustrated,
very emotional.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
It is very emotional.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
When I want to change my zodiac to Theatre's like,
I'm not doing this anyway because all.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
The emotions, it's so many emotions. Yeah, Not'm sensitive, but
I'm not emotional. I will cry and.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
You'll never see me cry nover.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
But I will cry at a heartbeat at how many
times you see me cry?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
One one time in our in our friendship.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Fourteen years yeah, yeah, very.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
So okay.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
So then became we became became Yeah, so we became
best friends. And I lived thirteen minutes from her house. Yeah,
I like, I said, eighty hd ye. I don't remember
things well, but if someone like gets into my long
term memory, I know that it's a really important relationship.
So she was like able to like get into that
(17:47):
memory really quickly. And she lived so close. And then
we just started like hanging out and we we did
your party your first birthday.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, moving to I love to
have big like three day birthday parties and whatnot. When
I met her, I was like, she was like, let's
do your birthday party together. I said, absolutely, let's do this.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
So terrible created.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, you're creative, but she's also a planner. And so
we did the pussy No, it was a carnival. It
was a carnival. So we did the carnival party. Two
hundred people were at my house in her backyard, in
my backyard, and my mother from the house.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Oh my God.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
So we did a cherry It was family friendly in
the day cherry party eating contest.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I had a Mexican rock band. I had a mobile spanking.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Bench Tunnel of Love which was hanging from the tree,
which she created.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
It was like a Hulu that had fabric on it.
People would go inside and then I would call out.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I'd be like hand hands and people from every direction
come in and touch the person inside from outside of
the right.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
The fabric was seeing they want a little mouth action,
you know what I'm saying. Like it was just it
was a lot that could happen with the fabric.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, they are very creative.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
And we had you know, but it's a carnival, so
you know, I was like, we have to have the
fried Twinkies, the fried orie rails.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, and then we I think we were charged like
we were like ten dollars or bring a bottle or
bring food.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Motherfuckers.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Everybody brought a fucking bottle. And I knew this ship
because I know my motherfucking friends. And so I went
shopping ahead of Ton and got the food and I
have my friend. She was like, I gotta get on
the grill. So she got on the ground and just
fucking split that ship. She was like, we gotta feed people.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
And it was a twelve hour party started at noon
and I men and it did not end. It ended
that like wanted to well, I when I woke.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Up in the morning, there were about twenty people.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I shout, did they help clean up when they woke up?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
No?
Speaker 10 (20:04):
Clean or not?
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Well, that's that's how we made. We made. And then
we had a little we had a pivowal moment though.
At that party, we were doing pussy prints.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
So that's a different party. That's empowering the pussy party.
That's my next birthday.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
That's so the next one we did, we did like
my next birthday, the next birthday, we did pussy prints.
And we hadn't thought of sex down south here, but
we were very close. And it's really nothing like having
your business partner take a print of your pussy, like
you laying on the table and then they paint what
(20:42):
we were paying yeah situation yeah, okay, no.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Right, and so.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
But then I still have you do Yeah we should
dig it out. Yeah, and so like that was my
first pussy friend.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's that's the name of this episode.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
My business party. And then fast forward, we are at
your house drinking one Sunday and we're sitting at the
coffee table and we're like, we should do the college
sit on the red couch and we're like, we should
do a conference. And we didn't know what we were doing.
And it started off as a one day event, like
one day conference, and I was like no, and then
I want three days. I wanted a conference. And we
(21:22):
had three pennies. We literally had three pennies. We had
no money.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
We did so we so we recruited people.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
So the one thing though, I would like to say
that is when we're on that right couch, I was like,
I want to do a three day conference. You need
to do this with me because we've been We've been
doing parties for the past two years.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Mind you.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
We did a the Empowering, the Pussy Party, the Carnival,
and No Pants Prince Party. We yeah, so we did
a bunch of parties over the past two years. So
I was like, this is someone I can create.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
We do something. So we're like, what's the next us?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yeah, and so I was like, we.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Think Gary b we do yeah, but you also are
extremely creative. What you're saying, you pussy Prince kissing party.
You think that I was like turning my note. No,
like I want to know what happens at the kissing party,
and then how do you think let's do a kissing party?
And when I look at this, this is a direct
result of that mind thinking, right, and we'll talk about
(22:31):
the things that I've seen here.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Is it safe to say that your birthday part of
me was a birth of Sex down South?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It sounds like step one.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Yeah, I would say like the Corset magazine was like
the birth cause you know, like you know, I would
say it's a seduction and the yeah, like an appetizing situation.
And I don't believe in time and like the linear way,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like I think
our future sales and past seals prepare us, and so
(23:00):
I think that original meeting in that like one day
event now that I look back at it literally is
sort of like the booon and what Sex down South
is it is like when we do a pop up
for one day, you know what I mean? So that
was the inception.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Yeah, so look listen as you guys don't get out much,
and you know we are from the heart Assault show
based out of Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And we have seen things.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
But what I would say is the past, what's today.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
For the past forty hours, I have seen some things
that have shifted my entire history. I always thought like
the most top five confidential things are four was who
killed Marmouther King killed JFK? Meat Rack an aliens. If
I told niggas what I seen in the meat rack,
(23:56):
they would think that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I'm the losers. They would they all right, we got
aliens meat.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
We can we can talk about the meat right, let's
talk Let's talk about it.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, we can talk about the meat rac.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So the meat Rack was an event that we went to.
For those of y'all who are listening and don't know
what we're talking about. Sex down South not only does
classes seminars, but they also do hands on things as well,
and one of the things that we went to. Now,
thinking about everybody the end of this, just understand, I
(24:32):
believe the meat Rack was a v P experience.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yes, it's a Marla private party experience.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yes, right, And how do you get into that?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I tell you about it because you're my friend, so you.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Got to get in with Marla. But Marla and Tia
are literally everywhere on the floor. So if you come out,
you know, try to get in Marla's concides, get into
the meat rack. But what is the meat rap? Here
we go.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
So I was introduced to the meat rack concept in California.
So I've been hired to present uh you know, it's
been how many days as the third day, so I'm
sorry about my voice. But I was hired in California, uh,
to do a couple of workshops out of retreat center
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for a sex positive group, the Bonobobo Crew, And they did.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
A meat rack and I fell in love.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
You know, part of me wants to get up and
fucking walk around because that's how But.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It was literally like you know, it was it was
so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So they had the.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Mobile clothes racks and they had just naked people tied
up on the racks and they had these yes no
cards and and oh my god, I just like literally just.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Moved to you know, I'm kinky, I'm kinky.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
So I just was moving from one person to the
next time we get their cars, doing whatever they said
they wanted.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yes, it's too so I was just like, oh, it's beautiful.
I can just beat people, choke people like slap them.
I can do whatever I want with them.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
And so it was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I blame Ta for this, right.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
So when he said, yo, you go on meat rack
party and I tell you the wrong day, y'all y'all.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Know, y'all know, the parameters of my brain really small.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
In my head, I'm thinking like Rocky too when he
was in the freezing So I'm like, how is boxing
gonna be points?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
What are we doing? All?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Right?
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Then then we the other day's.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
But then we get down there and I'm seeing these
beautiful people like hanging from wax.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I'm like, oh, fair to me, yes, you know.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Then my good brother Eli gives me the walk because
I can't wait. This is ze blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm like, oh Ship, this is sick ship.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
And he's like, yeah, bro, why don't you get on
the rack? I'm like, Eli, I'd rather buy the ox tail.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I'm not trying to be the maybe I'm trying to.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
It was beautiful, and so I always do a call
for bodies.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Well, the past two years that I've done the meat right,
I do a call for bodies, and this year was
the most applications that I've I've had and I was
like wow, And to see these applications.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
They were like, I'm down to do this this that.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I mean, bodies were like I'm open to anything. Whatever
you want to do to me, I will gladly take
it in or and I don't do this or what
you know, and they have their guesses and.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
Their notes, the yes and the no side that you've
seen mm hmm, I mean, one of the most interesting
yesses that you see, and what are some of the
most unusual Let's just be yes.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
What are some of the most unusual yesses that you see.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I mean, there's no unusual because you.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Did some ship that will never leave my mind. You've
become a part of my long term memory.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It was like five minutes.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Not that what she's like yours will know about.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
So there was a young lady tied up on the rack.
Now I might be delivering this memory wrong because I
was a little taken back.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So she's on the rack.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
She did she's chilling, and she had like these contraptions
like like pin to her nipples. Yes, there we go
hanging like laundry.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
And then I just see you comes crawling out of nowhere,
just like a little like a little fox. What is
that you have like this contraption in your hand?
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Like what is this?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
It looked like a freaking hookah, And then we pressed
the button's I said, she is not.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
About to do what I'm gonna do it, she said,
went up a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
She got right by the vulvert.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
Next thing, you know, the static shock and.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
The young lady noise is not what it was.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Yeah, you know we all jump a car battery and
you do the wrong water. This young lady took a
screenshot of her body.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
She sneeze.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I was like, she okay, that's it's on the corner window,
like what is going on?
Speaker 8 (29:37):
That was? That was my fault, the sickest.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
I can't tell you, beautiful, if I if I tell
somebody about it, ain't gonna think I'm losing my mom.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
I literally seen the ship.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
What is it? What are some other yeses that you've
seen right that are on it? Just for people that
don't know what could possibly happen at the meat right.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
And you know, well, I mean, I mean, if you
want to go extreme, whe of the things I really
want to do at my me rack is God, girl,
is I have this?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
It's called the bajankle.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
That thing was all my ankle part. Then when I
saw it, I calmed down.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Was having fun with that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
All night put.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
In there.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
You can't just be putting your fingers and people pussy.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You can't just be doing that pussy for.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
The That's nice.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It was handed to me, and I felt that the
right thing to do is the pleasure. This is what.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I get you that makes that makes I get you.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
What I saw on some of the yes and those penetration, spanking, flogging, kissing, cuddling.
Yeah right, so it doesn't even have to be but extreme.
It's just like I want to be cuddled or.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I want to be praised, praise, I want to be
a door.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Praise and degradation on the same one. Yeah, and how
do you praise somebody with degradation?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I love you, you dirty slid, Yeah, I am.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
And some of the nose obviously penetration we saw no anal.
So you think about it. People put themselves out there
to have these experiences. What what do you think about
it about sex and self? All your parties then make
people so open to doing something like me.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
That's a really great question.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I think I'm always kind of like fascinating because, like
I said, when I did the application the call for bodies,
I was like wow. I was like either people heard
about it from because so what happened after last year's
meet rack party.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I got a bunch of people who told people about the.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Meetreck party, my friends who were like, oh, oh, I
went to Marrow's private party.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You need to like get invited.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
So from October I was getting messages about hey, can
you invite me to the next meetreck party?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Or Hey, I'm having a party.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Would you like to be there?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
And I mean I'm literally getting invited all year to
parties because people want to come to the met racked party.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh they make friends.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
The people are also harassing me about the meet and
I'm like, I don't know, yah, people people are they
love you?
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, they do, And I think people want to experience
it in a safe space. And the because it's a
private party, because it's Marla's thirty closest, sixty closest, you know,
it's like if I know your name, yes you can
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have a plus one and come to the party. If
I don't know you know, you can't come. I have
somebody emailed me. It was like, hey, I went to
your party last year and I said, who are you? Oh,
I came with this person. I said, did you like, Oh,
maybe that wasn't the thing maybe why is it?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Like, hey, yeah, I don't think today.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
The thing is about the thing is.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
It's like, because it's a private party, I hold my
friends accountable.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
So I literally give a lecture at the beginning saying like, hey,
these are all my friends. You are meet. You are
here to enjoy my friends. Now, if my friends fuck up,
you better report to me because I will check that front.
Don't do me wrong.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I'm like, and I hope nobody will do you any
injustice in the space.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
We're here to have a good time. So I hold
my people accountable for what they do in the space.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
And that's why I think people that I had so
many applications because people heard, oh I was on me rack,
you know, and then only application. So many people are
like I was on NERAC last year. Please, you know,
I want to come back on the meatreck this year,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
And it's like a beauty pageant. That's how I see,
you know what I mean. Like the traditional beauty pages
we see are really boring and people are clothed, but
here you get to talk about like your unbared soul,
you know what I'm saying. Like, if you have a
fucking beauty pageant, it's like, oh, they're an account and
blah blah blah blah. But it's like here it is
(35:00):
so and so wants, you know, pegging and cuddles in
a good swift flat to the mouth, and that is
the beauty pageant of it really is.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
But I want to get a little a little deeper. Right.
I was at the meet right and I was sitting
with a young lady, Pernika, and she was like, you know,
I got up pretty soon pretty quickly to engage with
you because she's in New York. No, I didn't know.
We met her here. We met a lot of they've
(35:34):
been we've gotten a lot of friends and like that.
We've met here. Seriously very welcoming. But I am a
straight sis had black man, right, and this is a
I want to say, a space that I view as
queer LGBT for women space. That's what that's what I'm
(35:58):
center space, right, and so partneer. I believe She was like, yo,
go touch go touch it. After I engaged with somebody.
At first, she was like, go touching the young lady
that she was talking about was already engaged in scene.
And I was like, I can't. I don't think I
should do that. She was like, no, you should, and
I was like, she's already in the scene. I don't
(36:20):
want to interrupt the scene.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Plus, as you're using the outside rules and I don't apply,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I think that I don't know if I'm projecting right
because because I'm projected, but I also think that as
a straight black man in this space, I'm scary to
disturb it. I'm leary too good for you or you
do anything that would take somebody out of the bliss
that they're in because of things that they've gone through
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outside of this space which they protect and you know.
And so I was like, yo, I just don't think
that's right for me to do right now, Like I
would need to do permissions. I would feel more comfortable
doing permissions first, having a conversation before I just jump in, like, O,
you getting touched, let me get in there. I was like,
you know, she was like, Yo, it's interesting that you
because I understand it, but it's interesting that you've been
(37:10):
able to process that and make that decision for yourself.
That's some of the work that you would have to
do to be here.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Right, I asked to you, I said, yo, to you.
I want to promote this. I want to, you know,
get it going, because I know that my crowd would
love to be here. Right, But I am also leary
about promoting it and it changing the essence of what
it is. Now, you know that would never happened, while
(37:42):
you don't you think so?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
No, if you know me and Tia, I just know
because we have our guiding principles. I think that is
what helps guide people and makes it makes us face
the way that.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
It is, you know what I mean, and the way
that the conference is put together. We believe in grace,
you know, we believe in transformative justice. We believe in
like having conversations directly with people, and we understand culture
and we understand like implications of gender.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
We get it.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
And so the essence of the conference will never change, right,
But the people who get to experience it and be
inside of it get to learn something new. So, yes,
we heavily identify with our genders. But this is a
space that is not quite yet, but it is. It is,
it's sort of genderless, you know what I mean, And
(38:43):
so we promote that what.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Does genderless need?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Everybody?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Yeah, so I'll I'll get scientific kind of but like
at inception, everybody is the same gender correct, like when
then defeated, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
What I mean?
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Yeah, everybody, yeah, yeah, even though we have X Y,
but everyone expression is is the same. And so it's
like here we we understand that gender and culture show
up in the the way that we express the gender,
but we also understand that those rules have been put
on us by somebody else, you know what I mean.
(39:21):
And this is a space to explore that. It doesn't
mean particularly like you have to explore your sexuality or attraction,
but it does hold space for you to show up
like as your authentic self and not to have the
cosplay to a particular gender if you don't want to.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
I kind of feel though, so pretty much, well I'm
gathering from this though. It's like, yo, just come here
and exists and not necessarily have to identify.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Specific rules of God loved.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Well, yeah, I have all the all rules that men
follow and the all rules that women follow.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
When you're it's more so like beautiful people than versus
you being labeled a man or woman. Like if you're
a beautiful person, you're a good person, y'all.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Fuck with you?
Speaker 6 (39:59):
You could be m yeah, and just be you, like
be all of you.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Sure, And I think a lot of times in the
outside world we are, especially in the South, you know,
you're in these boxes like, oh I have to do
this or be this person or and that takes a
toll on your soul.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
And you have to understand when you.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Step outside of that and you can just like be
you and just embrace your whole self. That ship is transformative.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And then you have a group of people doing that
as well, and so then you conjure up, you know,
just commuting energy of that over.
Speaker 8 (40:36):
The weekend, even people who say things like bus trains, Yeah,
I'm gonna make sure.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Okay, So I'm gonna say something that I don't want.
I don't want I don't want to come off as
a person that's unlearned. I haven't done anymore right. But
I'm always examining my thoughts and my feelings. I'm always
examining my place, my role, what my legacy is gonna be.
I'm always trying to figure out that I'm moving intention right,
So while I'm here, I get a lot of love.
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But I also think that I am perceived as I
think people can see me the way I dressed, the
way I walk, the way I talk like straight, yea,
your hed right, and I can see some like what
are you doing here? Not in that way, but also
like this is I feel at home here? Don't fuck
my shit up, right, don't come in here, right? And
(41:30):
I'm aware of that. So I'm moving attention and the
way that I engage with people. And I also think
that I live that way in the street, right. I
think that I do my best, Like say, I see it.
There's a translator that walked out of our house on
my on my block, and I made sure to be like, yo,
you look great, like you know that she was going out,
and I was like because when she was coming down
the steps, she was like because I was walking up
(41:51):
the block, and you know, they just you know, it's
just natural to be you know, what am I get
from this month? I'm just trying to go somewhere, and
I wanted to make sure that she feel comfortable, like
you are great tonight. She's like thank you, right, and
so I try to do that all the time. But
I am aware that there is some anks between black
men and the rest of the world period, black women,
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the LGBT community, just literally everybody like we we.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
I would say, yeah, I mean do you feel it
more deeply?
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Yeah? Because yeah, so we always have this not even
a debate, but we agoing dialogue because Marlin is not
a goal star lessing. But you date women, yes, I Fortunately,
unfortunately Ray and Day men don't start. That's a whole
(42:43):
other conversation. We need several hours today, so there's ahead.
But it's a it is a difference, and Marlon knows
this and I talked. I've talked about it for a decade.
I've always always hell space for sis hetero sexual black
men at this conference. And are your are is your
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family from the South? Where's your where you are?
Speaker 1 (43:07):
No?
Speaker 6 (43:07):
I believe? Okay, So once you know about praying and
then Grandmother's praying for you and you know, covering you,
you know, you know right?
Speaker 5 (43:15):
You know?
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Okay, So like that's the energy that I was so
over black men at this conference because like I I
date men, you know what I mean, I love men.
I don't know if it's conditioning or what or mother
just says I'm straight, right, yeah, but she just thinks
I'm straight. But and so like I've always welcomed the
(43:38):
States for black men. I always we've always actively recruit
recruit sis heterosexual black men, so whether they consciously know
it or not. And this is part of the sort
of like logistics versus the theory and things that you
can't really explain that cover us you covered here?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Mm, why do you want?
Speaker 6 (44:03):
That's because it's like I have a like the pinnacle
of all things. I know that we are one, right,
but I also am aware that we are in colonialism
and sins, hetero sexual all the things, and so I
know that there's a divide and we behave differently, yes,
and I know that we all still need healing, all
of us. And so sometimes you have to call it
out specifically. You gotta say, like, hey, you black man, Hey,
(44:25):
you are safe over here to come and heal you.
A sex worker, you are safe to come over here
and heal you, uh, disabled, you try whatever, You are
safe to come here.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
But I would say, but the difference between like the
straight dynamics is that you all have this like weird
shit going on between the sexes.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
And for me, I love man.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
I think they're great people, you know, because and I'm like, oh, well,
you know I will. I will kiss you and hug
you and rub up on you. And it is so
easy for me to love to love on you easy.
And one of my friends he goes Marla, He's like,
I love you so much. He was like yeah, He's
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like you're you're you are my girl crush, Like I
can't have you, no, no, I love you too, and
I will always love you. We're still friends. I married
him and his wife, you know what I mean. Like,
I'm like, I love you and we will always be
good and close. And I love men, but not romantically
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in that way.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
And so I will always laugh upon me. We went
to police and they kept confusing me. They were like
they were like, there's something wrong with her because I
remember there was a guy. He was very muscly, and
I was like, oh my god, I love my muscles.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Oh yeah, ya ya.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
I was like, I love your muscles. I was like,
can I touch you? Can I touch your muscles?
Speaker 6 (45:51):
And he was like every time we go, I was like, oh,
this is easy to your muscle, said is in love,
it's two to three. But by the end of the trip,
m love though we understand that, you know what I mean, Like,
romantic love is not the only love that it gets
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to exist between people.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Yeah, And I think it was just kind of confused
because I think he was like, you want to fill
on me, but you don't like me, not like.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
That, not like that. Yeah, I like you, You're amazing,
but I like that I am.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
What I love about the SDS, for one, what I've
seen here is the freedom that you're allowed to express, right,
and we haven't even gotten into that, and hopefully we
could just get really get into the beauty that you
see it. But I do believe as a sis had
black Man, we're caging ourselves absolutely right. We're scared to
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be that free.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
I think that's part of DNA. One of my one
of my good friends does has done. She was at
Emma University and making DNA and feminism.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
And she was like, it's in your because we're the
generational trauma is transferred, and so is it being transferred
transferred transferred.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
You don't even know why you're putting yourself in a cage.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
It's because of all the generations before you and so
understanding breaking out of that generational trauma. I'm so thankful
for my mother for breaking me, for breaking herself out
of the generational trauma, and for me to be able
to be free and express myself and experience joy and
(47:37):
to be sexually liberated. Right, and my mom was working
the registration desks our first what five six years?
Speaker 4 (47:45):
You know what I mean of the conference.
Speaker 9 (47:48):
So it's just like, how about that, bud for about
you said you're the naked trumpeter.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
He comes to the door.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
You have a whole name. Hey, I'm a naked trumpeter.
Like what are you talking about? Your name is Eli.
You couldn't just go with Eli my mother one time
and then work your way to the naked trumpeter.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Hey, I hoe Trumpet's naked.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
I want to say something just And so we think
about we're talking about DNA, but also especially as black folks,
especially as black folks in the South, we share DNA
through community. So like Marla had the the beautiful experience
of having that mother, I did not. But I do
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understand like reparenting, and I've been able to be reparented
through this relationship.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
You know, again, I don't.
Speaker 8 (48:58):
Leave my city that much, so I don't know what
I know, right.
Speaker 7 (49:02):
I always say that listen, you deal with you know, classism, socialism, racism,
social condition, all that shit on a day to day basis, and.
Speaker 8 (49:11):
We as a you know, as a straight black man,
we kind of stay in our own box.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
But what I would say when I came here this weekend,
there was this young lady that will pass me and like,
she walked past.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Me, but I asked, was still in front of me?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
And I was like, God, damn, she think it's grit.
Speaker 7 (49:30):
And I look to the right of me, and this
old white guy looked like my college professor who failed
me for copying the old paragraph.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
And I'll be honest, only shit, I haven't seen bring
people like that together. The Knicks win.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
So what I would tell you, guys is if you
come me sex down South man. Besides the Knicks winning,
it's the only time I've seen people from different sides
of the world, different groups, people you probably would never
in your life talk to on a regular day to
day basis.
Speaker 8 (49:56):
Might be a one or gazillion chance you would interact
with a person.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Everywhere.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
Yeah, And I think it's because like and we we
talk about this is still hard. We're so we are
different and so like this is literally our like brain
and energetic child. Those instances are like natural occurrences for us. Yes,
and so like the freedom and the liberation and all
the things. This is turnkey every single day how we
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live our lives. And then we want to you know,
share that with the people at the conference.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Wul you we spoke about to be right, but we
haven't spoke about so many of the other things that
that that happened here. For one, I don't know how
to do you guys, even like being compared to Exotica.
Speaker 6 (50:45):
No, no, not m no, it's different.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
What's the difference because people would think that.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
You know, well, I think Exotica is more sex worker
porn based, like the vendors and everything.
Speaker 10 (51:00):
Just relax, okay, the vendors everything is different, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
It's more important.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
And yes they have the educational piece and that's nice,
but that's not the focus us.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
We're like education, that's.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
What we're doing during the day that you were learning
about yourself during the day, there's no other choice.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
And then at night.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Because in our motto, work hard and play harder.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah, so that's what we do. Education. Then we play hard,
we do the entertainment in the evening and going out
and do it all over.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah. Yeah, we're talking about you guys. Allow food to hear, Yes,
throughout the space.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
The classes I've seen everything from erotic writing to human
decolonizing sex or genuine you know, and I've been to
a lot of them, one of which kind of restored
my faith in my purpose in what I do with
sex work. Literally I was at SUSI as even a panel.
(52:13):
Oh absolutely, of course. But I think the difference for
me and I've been to exotic certain times is exactly
what Mala said. Those classes speak to people and their
experiences and information is their community is formed. It's even right.
Speaker 10 (52:37):
I just talked.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
And she made me write like a paragraph and read
it out loud and you know, to people listening, if
you part of the Patreon, I'm gonna put a bunch
of those in there. They let me film it. But
it was so it was like a release, and it
was an awareness that came like, oh I forgot I
could do this, Like I didn't even realize, like I
(52:59):
do this cancer somebody. I didn't realize it's a part
of me too. And then I took so much pride
in it. Right. I read it and I was like, wow,
I did that, bro exactly read and read my hand.
It was hard. It was difficult.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
It was actually very difficult. You missed. But they got
a little pool. Listen. They got a lot wrestling.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
Yeah, the King Olympics. Man, man, that was a heavy
bottoms last.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Night when he said that, you were.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Remember kindergarten. This a little girl. We was wrestling. She
was man greasy. I couldn't get ahold of.
Speaker 6 (53:35):
Ship.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
I gotta deal with this every day.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
They got a little pool.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
There was a live porn shoot with anybody that attended
could watch a live point shoot. It was a threesome.
It was an m m F m F m.
Speaker 6 (53:56):
Oh no, you're right.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
It was n work.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
We were on tow commge to like stick.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Baylor was like.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
The build with this big he he's.
Speaker 6 (54:12):
I don't know what I thought it was. I didn't
think we're going to use it. I thought it was
just like a.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
It was had.
Speaker 8 (54:19):
I thought that she was decoration.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
She pulled out that fire hydrant. Thick, that's what the
fuck you're doing with that?
Speaker 6 (54:24):
She did it?
Speaker 1 (54:26):
What and she and she and he did it? He
shout out to them. Somebody asked me, I know, we
have to wrap up. If somebody asked me, like, yo,
how do you feel? And I'm like, bro, it's pleasure.
It doesn't and I'm not looking at it like oh,
he's this and it's just pleasure, like enjoying himself and
I've done that much work, right, that's a real nigga.
(54:48):
I'm like, he's watching basketball. I was not.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I was not.
Speaker 8 (55:06):
Ship.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
How would I describe it?
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Look, listen, I came in here not knowing what the
hell is going on. In his defense, he didn't really
know what's going on other so.
Speaker 7 (55:13):
He couldn't necessarily tell me what was going on, Like, Yo,
it's something again. It's never been a dull moment. Every
day it's some new ship that's like in my long
term memory bank. I'm like, man, put it like this,
this is the kind of weekend. Now when I leave here,
I can't tell nobody to think that is.
Speaker 8 (55:29):
Not gonna believe me, yo, Like it's like a eye.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Not They're not gonna believe me. Like, yeah, y'all, I
was in this crazy ass hotel. Everybody was sexy. Look
way of freaking was wrestling something fire hydrant.
Speaker 7 (55:44):
Did they look at me like, Yo, we gotta put
this nigga in the second crazy, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Like, I can't tell nobody.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Live.
Speaker 6 (56:02):
I think that's what about Lord to It is very
hard to explain what six You just have to come.
That was a model, just come and we asked you
last minute. They won't be on the schedule, and.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
I'm talking about I want to say, one hundred classes
maybe throughout the three days. Every hour there's something else,
and as in every hour there are multiple things. So
you're literally here doing all of this work and at
night you got pool parties, you got lou wrestling, you
got it's like you got a little bit and it's
(56:39):
black people. It is black people, black people and king black,
queer people, black just it's just literally for us, right,
And I think that's also a major difference to anything
else that's happening out there. A message We're at the
end of the episode, Tiya and Marla, what is a
message that you want to say to people out there
(57:00):
that don't know about sex down South but you want
them here?
Speaker 4 (57:05):
Hmm. I mean, I don't know. I feel like it's
sort of like our tag lines.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Just just come.
Speaker 5 (57:15):
You just don't know what you're going to experience until
you get here, and it's so great.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Like we've had people who've met here who have gotten married.
Speaker 5 (57:25):
You know, they're like we met our sex down south
and we're married and were come every year, you know,
Like we call it your exploring, your exploration, So it's
just sort of like you here, you're here to explore,
find yourself because a lot of and heal yourself, because
I mean, that's part of the healing space, right Why
(57:46):
we have.
Speaker 4 (57:47):
The healing space, why we have the on call emotional support.
Speaker 5 (57:50):
You hear people crying, willing healing, you know, and that's
one of the most beautiful things I think, you know,
people could ever experience.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
So I mean, yeah, you see it to believe it.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
We're going to wrap up now. I want to just
say thank you ladies so much for opening my eyes
to this. I have definitely invited. I've already invited the
whole Nut Navy by our whole Patreon group. Like yo,
next year, we're doing a meet up here, So we're
going to block out the months before so that we're
not like pulling money here. This is where we want
(58:32):
to I want to see this growth. I've always said
that I went on a lifestyle cruise. I'm sorry, Cameron,
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I went on a lifestyle cruise
and I didn't feel home. I was like, why don't
because I think, like I said, think about my LEXI,
why aren't we doing this? Why don't we have this
(58:52):
type of space? And we're like so broken. He got
some people in the land, you got some people in LA,
you got some people in New York. We need to
link and build this not for just us, but for
our communities right and give ourselves a freedom that they
respectfully them, they have that every day. We have to
create it and it's just it's not going to be
(59:13):
that hard if we link up and do it together. Definitely.
I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
Ye we want to hotel, we want to. We don't
want to sell.
Speaker 6 (59:23):
Yeah, we want to hotel take over we will Yeah,
we want to hold take over so they can't tell
us next. Okay, do whatever we want right that is
that is the goal.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
We will do it. Sex, love, relationships and accountability. I'm
here with Tea and Marler of sex down South. Where
can these people find you?
Speaker 4 (59:43):
Sucks down south dot com. We're on Instagram. At ss con, do.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Your research through the knowledge the bottom tickets next year,
you got to be here.
Speaker 6 (59:53):
They all pre sale.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Oh it's so good. Also good A thank you, thank you,
thank you,
It was good y'all, welcome back to the Hard or
Soft Show. Before we get into it, I just wanted
to give a little disclaimer. First of all, we are
this is an amazing episode with the founders of the
Sex down South Convention, Tia and Marla. We did it
(00:23):
live at the convention, so and it was really like
running gun, really like, yo, we have an hour to
get this done. We recorded on like two different cameras,
so the audio seems a little sh you know, weird
because some of it is in your left ear, some
of it is in your right ear. But man, you know,
just tune in, check it out. It's an hour, you
(00:44):
know what I'm saying. It was so many gems that
would cover here about how they connected, how their friendship started,
and how it g blossomed into the Sex down South convention,
the different things. They're crazy thing is that we Loon
and I witnessed this weekend at the Sex down South Convention,
(01:07):
and we also spoke about what it's like, you know,
being a straight man sis head straight man at a
convention that is centered around women and queer bodies, you
know what I'm saying. So that was just a very
interesting perspective Loon Courtney yesterday and I will be talking
(01:29):
more about it on next week's episode. But this episode
is featuring the founders, so I'm hoping you guys get
into it. One thing I do want to say, I've
never had an experience like this, and it came at
a great time for me when thinking about my brand
and thinking about what we do and what our purpose
(01:51):
is to be around such amazing energy, spiritually cleansing energy
all weekend. It it was something that definitely make me
take stock and who I am and what my purpose
is out here, especially in the sex positive community. So
(02:12):
hopefully you guys pick up on some of that energy
and hopefully we can transfer that into you know, furthering
our brand into a just a really positive direction. So
without further ado, we're gonna start this episode. Don't forget.
Hardest offt is having a Halloween party November first. Okay,
(02:33):
the response has been overwhelming. It will We will have
the Kings and Drinks. We grabbed some of the tops
that we met out at UH Sex down South. They
will be bringing their talents to Kings and Drinks to
be to give you a whole new Kings and Drinks experience.
You know, I like giving different things. You know, we
(02:54):
have a lot of the same things you know for
people to try. But what we got for y'all this
time around, it's going to be incredible. So if you
have not been vetted, please go to Thehard Orsoft Show
dot com, click the vetting form and fill it out.
It takes you about three minutes, really nothing. But I
(03:14):
also want you to take note of the fantasy section.
Right we are picking out people that give fantasies that
can be done, you know what I mean. Now we're
not talking about yo, I just want to get my
man sucked by two women, or you know, I want
to all girl org like YoY. Y'all can do that.
That's up to y'all. Y'all gotta take you know, personal responsibility.
(03:35):
But if you have a fantasy like one person was, like,
y'all want to be walked like a dog and I
want ten guys to splash on me, maybe we could
try to make that happen for you, you know what I'm saying.
So we're taking out certain ones that we're going to
reach out to, the people who we find their fantasies
to be something that maybe we can curate. Maybe we
(03:56):
can put on during the actual play party after the
Kingston Dream, and we're gonna try to make that happen.
We've spoken to the Navy, our you know, grand community,
and they are open to participating in this, you know
what I'm saying. So I think that is gonna be
a great change. We're also gonna have a live DJ
during the party on the dance floor. On the party
(04:19):
floor with all of those beds, We're gonna have a
live DJ right there giving it up. So it's you know,
it's less of a like a you know, Miguel and
Brent fires and more party is you know what I'm saying.
So let's let's get the vibes going. Celebrate November first
here in New York City as we do our I said,
(04:40):
I want to say third annual Halloween party, which is
generally our biggest party of the year. Now, if you
have been vetted, just email us. Email us at Hard
Orsoft Events at gmail dot com. Let us know you've
been vetted. Well, check the vening form. If you have
been vetted, we will just send you the ticket link.
If not, go over the at the Heart Orsoft Show
(05:01):
dot com. Fill out the vening form and once you've
been approved, you will get the ticket link. Keep in
mind early bird tickets are closing around September twenty second,
I believe, and then the tickets go to full price,
so if you're you know, on it, you can catch
the amazing discount by going over and coppying you an
(05:22):
early bird ticket. I got that idea from Ziria Noughty
Knights and it's been really working out for the community.
So hey, we're here, let's get into this amazing episode.
Hope to see you at the Halloween party. Let's go.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Can I ask you a question?
Speaker 3 (05:43):
Why you don't ever play with my nipples? I got
nipples too.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
It's my turn to get tied up knocking handcuffs though
I got PTSD. Welcome the heartest soft where men speak.
So hopefully somebody will understand when.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
You say freaky?
Speaker 1 (05:58):
What's freaky?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
What you mean by freaking?
Speaker 1 (06:01):
If I do this, you're not going to tell your friends?
Speaker 5 (06:03):
Right?
Speaker 1 (06:30):
You know, I don't really have any but now I have.
Now you know I was blind, but now I see
that's it's more like that this is not true.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
She's making up.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
I think she's making it up.
Speaker 6 (06:45):
No, I literally sent you a message right after you
almost fit me on your Instagram.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I saw that I did.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
I was like, you almost send me with your car.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
This is not true. Wait, let's just wait till This
is a great way to start. You didn't see that.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
You didn't what you saw, you know, because you didn't
see me. No, no, no, you saw me at the Okay,
we'll talk about it. Oh we are okay.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Exactly, So you heard all of all of these. Usually
I want to say lies, but untruth truth.
Speaker 7 (07:32):
This is not untruth. These are actual events. Doesn't want
correct this is what he does.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Right, what you're gonna talk about? You? Well, we're here, right,
and Tia actually invited us here from Exactica, but the
way she did it was kind of unorthodox, like she
hissed me. He's like, yeah you first she come, walks
up to me. It was really great. Walks up to
me and Exacta and she's like, look, I do the
only black all black all well, you know Queer Center convention,
(08:04):
sex convention. That's interesting.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Who is that? Somebody helped.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
And that was great. And then about three hours later
I get a d M. You almost hit me with
your car. What are you talking about? You. I was there.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
I was in the car, was driving.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
You were driving.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
I was ready to throw him under the bus. I
was absolutely ready to throw you on the bus. Did
you see her? Yes? I did.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
That's why I face we so familia.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
What were you saying?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
This is bad?
Speaker 2 (08:43):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I don't like what's going on here.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
I was and I was socialized like a man. So
you're not gonna win.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
What does that mean? Socialized like a man?
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I was?
Speaker 6 (08:54):
Okay, okay, So name awesome gender traits that you think
me had.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
I want to say. We focused on tasks like we
center on task. So I just need to get this stune.
You don't do that. I do that. We may do that,
but you don't because I've watched you operate and you'll
take three steps. I gotta do something. You take three
steps there, and then you be.
Speaker 6 (09:19):
Like it's because like you are a kite, but for us,
you're the string, you know what I mean? Like, and
then I'm the kite.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
What does that mean? Oh?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
So it's an analogy I'm talking about.
Speaker 7 (09:38):
And she's usually the one that goes with the wind
and usually keep keep her grounding.
Speaker 8 (09:43):
The worlds are reversed, No, they're not reverse.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
What means you being the kite or the string?
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You're always the kind, right, I'm always?
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Now what is your relationship? How did you guys even
get together? So I'm sitting here with Tia and Marla
of the Sex down south and him he's here too, Why.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
A separate.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Is that supposed to be? Could? It's bizarre?
Speaker 9 (10:09):
He's bizarre in the street.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Cannot before I actually in the street right, we went
to Atlanta. I just have to. It's just the thing
that I do. I've always, you know, I've lived down here.
I love house. We see a tram, the trolley right
in the street, and he's like, oh, they got bus trains?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
What is it? A bus or train?
Speaker 8 (10:35):
So I don't need the hood that off?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Right?
Speaker 7 (10:37):
So I see, I'm fami the buses, the trains where
I'm from. The trains outside on the street, underground, in
the sky. So I see like a train outside. My
mind just couldn't come it's a bus or a train.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
I was like, it's just ridiculous. They've had these in
cities across America since at least one hundred years.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Well, language is prescriptive. We make it up as we go. Yeah,
so them made up a new little especially period a
language like on a on a regular How do you
know so much about language? Because I have ADHD and
(11:27):
I stay up all night researching things. And I used
to want to be a linguistic anthropologist. What then I
realized there was no money in that, and I like money.
What I wanted to be a linguistic anthropologist?
Speaker 1 (11:44):
Help? Just what? You gotta start making excuses for this
because didn't.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Even public school?
Speaker 2 (11:54):
All right, New York six.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
But you said you didn't leave the hood. You don't
go to hood?
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Okay, okay, what.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
Like the sip of my drink?
Speaker 1 (12:07):
No, I mean you've been giving us nothing but libations
or the last days.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
Absolutely was the last time you had alvation?
Speaker 1 (12:16):
This morning? You're oh, before today I have the closing
the blessing out given us shots of tequila or cannabis
infuse elimination. Yeah. I wouldn't know where they found where
they found each other, no.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Question, you were.
Speaker 6 (12:43):
Here, Okay, so we believe. In two thousand and eleven,
I was working for a magazine. Of course, that magazine
which wasn't a riting magazine, hey, y'all, And we had
a pop up in Atlanta, and essentially now that I'm
(13:03):
looking back, it really was like the beginning of what
SDS sort of grew into. And I needed a sex
educator that was local and that was free, so we
don't know money, and I just googled and Marla was
the first person who popped up, and well, there are
a couple of people who popped up, but she was
the first person who popped up. And something about her
bald head just like really drew me. And you know
(13:25):
what I'm saying, look at that head, I'm gonna shoot them,
you know what I'm saying. And it was bald, it
was skinball, and I was like, Okay, this is this
is the person. So I invited her to the event.
She did an amazing job. And then she's a tourist
and I'm a cancer.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
We didn't know this at the time.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
Yeah, we didn't know this at the time, but yeah,
she's a tourist, I'm a cancer. And then we started
to uh oh, I bought some and then I don't know,
we just started to be friends. And I do think
it was for two reasons. Our zodiac chart that I have,
I churned it out and figured out what with it.
(14:02):
And she has a bestie that's also a cancer. So
she was prepared for me because if you know a cancer,
you know anybody know cancer merging.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
Wait, okay, not that I have it. I don't have
any objective objection because I will probably I will listen.
I will probably agree with most things that y'all said about.
But what was this whole?
Speaker 6 (14:35):
I first?
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Oh, yeah, you go first, I'll go second.
Speaker 6 (14:38):
Every I know it's illusional, but I mean, like, I know,
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Like my sister is sitting out there,
she's a people know.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
I know this.
Speaker 6 (14:50):
I believe it.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You know that's so good with words, very quick, very quickly.
I would push back because you delusional when it's more
that we're dreamers. That is what they say with dreams.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
I have rebuttal for that. But Marlay, if you would
have rebuttle, you didn't remote because I'm not. I can't
rebuttal us what you're saying about your No.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
I I just I am me Taurus. So pisces are
very sensitive for me.
Speaker 5 (15:23):
And because y'all feel so many fucking emotions, it's very
difficult for me to process because I'm like, get your
ship together, let's get cancer, and for you less less
like more logic less emotion. So there there's there's there's emotion,
(15:46):
big emotion, but there's some logics.
Speaker 6 (15:51):
Is like all the moments. That's where the delusion comes from.
Speaker 7 (15:54):
You know what's so funny and the reason I'm here,
So he don't go to trust mean by himself.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
So I just and I'll just come. He's bound to
not make it home on the time.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
And wait, what are you trying to say.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
After saying that it leads to the imagination for your dreams.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
I will dreams, I will say. Now this is I'm
not gonna make this a whole zodiac battle, right, but
male cancers. Yeah, I don't even know how y'all are
saying this, but obviously y'all have your experience with maces
and I get that, Like we are a lot, right,
we we gaslight ourselves, we blind ourselves, like we it's
(16:35):
a lot. Living in this body has been like very frustrated,
very emotional.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
It is very emotional.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
When I want to change my zodiac to Theatre's like,
I'm not doing this anyway because all.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
The emotions, it's so many emotions. Yeah, Not'm sensitive, but
I'm not emotional. I will cry and.
Speaker 6 (17:01):
You'll never see me cry nover.
Speaker 5 (17:04):
But I will cry at a heartbeat at how many
times you see me cry?
Speaker 6 (17:08):
One one time in our in our friendship.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Fourteen years yeah, yeah, very.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
So okay.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
So then became we became became Yeah, so we became
best friends. And I lived thirteen minutes from her house. Yeah,
I like, I said, eighty hd ye. I don't remember
things well, but if someone like gets into my long
term memory, I know that it's a really important relationship.
So she was like able to like get into that
(17:47):
memory really quickly. And she lived so close. And then
we just started like hanging out and we we did
your party your first birthday.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
Yeah, yeah, so you know, moving to I love to
have big like three day birthday parties and whatnot. When
I met her, I was like, she was like, let's
do your birthday party together. I said, absolutely, let's do this.
Speaker 6 (18:11):
So terrible created.
Speaker 5 (18:14):
Yeah, you're creative, but she's also a planner. And so
we did the pussy No, it was a carnival. It
was a carnival. So we did the carnival party. Two
hundred people were at my house in her backyard, in
my backyard, and my mother from the house.
Speaker 4 (18:33):
Oh my God.
Speaker 5 (18:34):
So we did a cherry It was family friendly in
the day cherry party eating contest.
Speaker 4 (18:40):
I had a Mexican rock band. I had a mobile spanking.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
Bench Tunnel of Love which was hanging from the tree,
which she created.
Speaker 4 (18:48):
It was like a Hulu that had fabric on it.
People would go inside and then I would call out.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
I'd be like hand hands and people from every direction
come in and touch the person inside from outside of
the right.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
The fabric was seeing they want a little mouth action,
you know what I'm saying. Like it was just it
was a lot that could happen with the fabric.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Yeah, they are very creative.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
And we had you know, but it's a carnival, so
you know, I was like, we have to have the
fried Twinkies, the fried orie rails.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Yeah, and then we I think we were charged like
we were like ten dollars or bring a bottle or
bring food.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Motherfuckers.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Everybody brought a fucking bottle. And I knew this ship
because I know my motherfucking friends. And so I went
shopping ahead of Ton and got the food and I
have my friend. She was like, I gotta get on
the grill. So she got on the ground and just
fucking split that ship. She was like, we gotta feed people.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
And it was a twelve hour party started at noon
and I men and it did not end. It ended
that like wanted to well, I when I woke.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
Up in the morning, there were about twenty people.
Speaker 1 (20:00):
I shout, did they help clean up when they woke up?
Speaker 6 (20:03):
No?
Speaker 10 (20:04):
Clean or not?
Speaker 6 (20:06):
Well, that's that's how we made. We made. And then
we had a little we had a pivowal moment though.
At that party, we were doing pussy prints.
Speaker 4 (20:16):
So that's a different party. That's empowering the pussy party.
That's my next birthday.
Speaker 6 (20:20):
That's so the next one we did, we did like
my next birthday, the next birthday, we did pussy prints.
And we hadn't thought of sex down south here, but
we were very close. And it's really nothing like having
your business partner take a print of your pussy, like
you laying on the table and then they paint what
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we were paying yeah situation yeah, okay, no.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Right, and so.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
But then I still have you do Yeah we should
dig it out. Yeah, and so like that was my
first pussy friend.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
That's that's the name of this episode.
Speaker 6 (20:59):
My business party. And then fast forward, we are at
your house drinking one Sunday and we're sitting at the
coffee table and we're like, we should do the college
sit on the red couch and we're like, we should
do a conference. And we didn't know what we were doing.
And it started off as a one day event, like
one day conference, and I was like no, and then
I want three days. I wanted a conference. And we
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had three pennies. We literally had three pennies. We had
no money.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
We did so we so we recruited people.
Speaker 5 (21:32):
So the one thing though, I would like to say
that is when we're on that right couch, I was like,
I want to do a three day conference. You need
to do this with me because we've been We've been
doing parties for the past two years.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
Mind you.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
We did a the Empowering, the Pussy Party, the Carnival,
and No Pants Prince Party. We yeah, so we did
a bunch of parties over the past two years. So
I was like, this is someone I can create.
Speaker 4 (22:02):
We do something. So we're like, what's the next us?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yeah, and so I was like, we.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Think Gary b we do yeah, but you also are
extremely creative. What you're saying, you pussy Prince kissing party.
You think that I was like turning my note. No,
like I want to know what happens at the kissing party,
and then how do you think let's do a kissing party?
And when I look at this, this is a direct
result of that mind thinking, right, and we'll talk about
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the things that I've seen here.
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Is it safe to say that your birthday part of
me was a birth of Sex down South?
Speaker 2 (22:38):
It sounds like step one.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
Yeah, I would say like the Corset magazine was like
the birth cause you know, like you know, I would
say it's a seduction and the yeah, like an appetizing situation.
And I don't believe in time and like the linear way,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like I think
our future sales and past seals prepare us, and so
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I think that original meeting in that like one day
event now that I look back at it literally is
sort of like the booon and what Sex down South
is it is like when we do a pop up
for one day, you know what I mean? So that
was the inception.
Speaker 7 (23:15):
Yeah, so look listen as you guys don't get out much,
and you know we are from the heart Assault show
based out of Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
And we have seen things.
Speaker 8 (23:27):
But what I would say is the past, what's today.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
For the past forty hours, I have seen some things
that have shifted my entire history. I always thought like
the most top five confidential things are four was who
killed Marmouther King killed JFK? Meat Rack an aliens. If
I told niggas what I seen in the meat rack,
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they would think that.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
I'm the losers. They would they all right, we got
aliens meat.
Speaker 6 (24:07):
We can we can talk about the meat right, let's
talk Let's talk about it.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Yeah, we can talk about the meat rac.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
So the meat Rack was an event that we went to.
For those of y'all who are listening and don't know
what we're talking about. Sex down South not only does
classes seminars, but they also do hands on things as well,
and one of the things that we went to. Now,
thinking about everybody the end of this, just understand, I
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believe the meat Rack was a v P experience.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yes, it's a Marla private party experience.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yes, right, And how do you get into that?
Speaker 4 (24:44):
I tell you about it because you're my friend, so you.
Speaker 1 (24:46):
Got to get in with Marla. But Marla and Tia
are literally everywhere on the floor. So if you come out,
you know, try to get in Marla's concides, get into
the meat rack. But what is the meat rap? Here
we go.
Speaker 5 (25:01):
So I was introduced to the meat rack concept in California.
So I've been hired to present uh you know, it's
been how many days as the third day, so I'm
sorry about my voice. But I was hired in California, uh,
to do a couple of workshops out of retreat center
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for a sex positive group, the Bonobobo Crew, And they did.
Speaker 4 (25:30):
A meat rack and I fell in love.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
You know, part of me wants to get up and
fucking walk around because that's how But.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
It was literally like you know, it was it was
so beautiful.
Speaker 4 (25:45):
So they had the.
Speaker 5 (25:47):
Mobile clothes racks and they had just naked people tied
up on the racks and they had these yes no
cards and and oh my god, I just like literally just.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Moved to you know, I'm kinky, I'm kinky.
Speaker 5 (26:06):
So I just was moving from one person to the
next time we get their cars, doing whatever they said
they wanted.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yes, it's too so I was just like, oh, it's beautiful.
I can just beat people, choke people like slap them.
I can do whatever I want with them.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
And so it was beautiful.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
I blame Ta for this, right.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
So when he said, yo, you go on meat rack
party and I tell you the wrong day, y'all y'all.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Know, y'all know, the parameters of my brain really small.
Speaker 7 (26:33):
In my head, I'm thinking like Rocky too when he
was in the freezing So I'm like, how is boxing
gonna be points?
Speaker 2 (26:39):
What are we doing? All?
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Right?
Speaker 8 (26:41):
Then then we the other day's.
Speaker 7 (26:47):
But then we get down there and I'm seeing these
beautiful people like hanging from wax.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I'm like, oh, fair to me, yes, you know.
Speaker 8 (26:56):
Then my good brother Eli gives me the walk because
I can't wait. This is ze blah blah blah.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm like, oh Ship, this is sick ship.
Speaker 7 (27:06):
And he's like, yeah, bro, why don't you get on
the rack? I'm like, Eli, I'd rather buy the ox tail.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
I'm not trying to be the maybe I'm trying to.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
It was beautiful, and so I always do a call
for bodies.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
Well, the past two years that I've done the meat right,
I do a call for bodies, and this year was
the most applications that I've I've had and I was
like wow, And to see these applications.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
They were like, I'm down to do this this that.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
I mean, bodies were like I'm open to anything. Whatever
you want to do to me, I will gladly take
it in or and I don't do this or what
you know, and they have their guesses and.
Speaker 11 (27:52):
Their notes, the yes and the no side that you've
seen mm hmm, I mean, one of the most interesting
yesses that you see, and what are some of the
most unusual Let's just be yes.
Speaker 8 (28:05):
What are some of the most unusual yesses that you see.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
I mean, there's no unusual because you.
Speaker 7 (28:11):
Did some ship that will never leave my mind. You've
become a part of my long term memory.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
It was like five minutes.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Not that what she's like yours will know about.
Speaker 8 (28:27):
So there was a young lady tied up on the rack.
Now I might be delivering this memory wrong because I
was a little taken back.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So she's on the rack.
Speaker 7 (28:35):
She did she's chilling, and she had like these contraptions
like like pin to her nipples. Yes, there we go
hanging like laundry.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
And then I just see you comes crawling out of nowhere,
just like a little like a little fox. What is
that you have like this contraption in your hand?
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Like what is this?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
It looked like a freaking hookah, And then we pressed
the button's I said, she is not.
Speaker 7 (29:02):
About to do what I'm gonna do it, she said,
went up a little bit more.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
She got right by the vulvert.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
Next thing, you know, the static shock and.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
The young lady noise is not what it was.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
Yeah, you know we all jump a car battery and
you do the wrong water. This young lady took a
screenshot of her body.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
She sneeze.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
I was like, she okay, that's it's on the corner window,
like what is going on?
Speaker 8 (29:37):
That was? That was my fault, the sickest.
Speaker 7 (29:41):
I can't tell you, beautiful, if I if I tell
somebody about it, ain't gonna think I'm losing my mom.
Speaker 8 (29:46):
I literally seen the ship.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
What is it? What are some other yeses that you've
seen right that are on it? Just for people that
don't know what could possibly happen at the meat right.
Speaker 10 (29:53):
And you know, well, I mean, I mean, if you
want to go extreme, whe of the things I really
want to do at my me rack is God, girl,
is I have this?
Speaker 4 (30:09):
It's called the bajankle.
Speaker 6 (30:13):
That thing was all my ankle part. Then when I
saw it, I calmed down.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Was having fun with that.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
All night put.
Speaker 5 (30:26):
In there.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Yep.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
You can't just be putting your fingers and people pussy.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
You can't just be doing that pussy for.
Speaker 6 (30:35):
The That's nice.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
It was handed to me, and I felt that the
right thing to do is the pleasure. This is what.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I get you that makes that makes I get you.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
What I saw on some of the yes and those penetration, spanking, flogging, kissing, cuddling.
Yeah right, so it doesn't even have to be but extreme.
It's just like I want to be cuddled or.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
I want to be praised, praise, I want to be
a door.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Praise and degradation on the same one. Yeah, and how
do you praise somebody with degradation?
Speaker 4 (31:12):
I love you, you dirty slid, Yeah, I am.
Speaker 10 (31:23):
Let me.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
And some of the nose obviously penetration we saw no anal.
So you think about it. People put themselves out there
to have these experiences. What what do you think about
it about sex and self? All your parties then make
people so open to doing something like me.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
That's a really great question.
Speaker 5 (31:56):
I think I'm always kind of like fascinating because, like
I said, when I did the application the call for bodies,
I was like wow. I was like either people heard
about it from because so what happened after last year's
meet rack party.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I got a bunch of people who told people about the.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
Meetreck party, my friends who were like, oh, oh, I
went to Marrow's private party.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
You need to like get invited.
Speaker 5 (32:20):
So from October I was getting messages about hey, can
you invite me to the next meetreck party?
Speaker 4 (32:27):
Or Hey, I'm having a party.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Would you like to be there?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
And I mean I'm literally getting invited all year to
parties because people want to come to the met racked party.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Oh they make friends.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
The people are also harassing me about the meet and
I'm like, I don't know, yah, people people are they
love you?
Speaker 5 (32:52):
Yeah, they do, And I think people want to experience
it in a safe space. And the because it's a
private party, because it's Marla's thirty closest, sixty closest, you know,
it's like if I know your name, yes you can
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have a plus one and come to the party. If
I don't know you know, you can't come. I have
somebody emailed me. It was like, hey, I went to
your party last year and I said, who are you? Oh,
I came with this person. I said, did you like, Oh,
maybe that wasn't the thing maybe why is it?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Do you remember?
Speaker 2 (33:40):
Like, hey, yeah, I don't think today.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
The thing is about the thing is.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
It's like, because it's a private party, I hold my
friends accountable.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
So I literally give a lecture at the beginning saying like, hey,
these are all my friends. You are meet. You are
here to enjoy my friends. Now, if my friends fuck up,
you better report to me because I will check that front.
Don't do me wrong.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
I'm like, and I hope nobody will do you any
injustice in the space.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
We're here to have a good time. So I hold
my people accountable for what they do in the space.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
And that's why I think people that I had so
many applications because people heard, oh I was on me rack,
you know, and then only application. So many people are
like I was on NERAC last year. Please, you know,
I want to come back on the meatreck this year,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
And it's like a beauty pageant. That's how I see,
you know what I mean. Like the traditional beauty pages
we see are really boring and people are clothed, but
here you get to talk about like your unbared soul,
you know what I'm saying. Like, if you have a
fucking beauty pageant, it's like, oh, they're an account and
blah blah blah blah. But it's like here it is
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so and so wants, you know, pegging and cuddles in
a good swift flat to the mouth, and that is
the beauty pageant of it really is.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
But I want to get a little a little deeper. Right.
I was at the meet right and I was sitting
with a young lady, Pernika, and she was like, you know,
I got up pretty soon pretty quickly to engage with
you because she's in New York. No, I didn't know.
We met her here. We met a lot of they've
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been we've gotten a lot of friends and like that.
We've met here. Seriously very welcoming. But I am a
straight sis had black man, right, and this is a
I want to say, a space that I view as
queer LGBT for women space. That's what that's what I'm
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center space, right, and so partneer. I believe She was like, yo,
go touch go touch it. After I engaged with somebody.
At first, she was like, go touching the young lady
that she was talking about was already engaged in scene.
And I was like, I can't. I don't think I
should do that. She was like, no, you should, and
I was like, she's already in the scene. I don't
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want to interrupt the scene.
Speaker 5 (36:22):
Plus, as you're using the outside rules and I don't apply,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (36:27):
I think that I don't know if I'm projecting right
because because I'm projected, but I also think that as
a straight black man in this space, I'm scary to
disturb it. I'm leary too good for you or you
do anything that would take somebody out of the bliss
that they're in because of things that they've gone through
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outside of this space which they protect and you know.
And so I was like, yo, I just don't think
that's right for me to do right now, Like I
would need to do permissions. I would feel more comfortable
doing permissions first, having a conversation before I just jump in, like, O,
you getting touched, let me get in there. I was like,
you know, she was like, Yo, it's interesting that you
because I understand it, but it's interesting that you've been
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able to process that and make that decision for yourself.
That's some of the work that you would have to
do to be here.
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
Right, I asked to you, I said, yo, to you.
I want to promote this. I want to, you know,
get it going, because I know that my crowd would
love to be here. Right, But I am also leary
about promoting it and it changing the essence of what
it is. Now, you know that would never happened, while
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you don't you think so?
Speaker 4 (37:44):
No, if you know me and Tia, I just know
because we have our guiding principles. I think that is
what helps guide people and makes it makes us face
the way that.
Speaker 6 (37:59):
It is, you know what I mean, and the way
that the conference is put together. We believe in grace,
you know, we believe in transformative justice. We believe in
like having conversations directly with people, and we understand culture
and we understand like implications of gender.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
We get it.
Speaker 6 (38:20):
And so the essence of the conference will never change, right,
But the people who get to experience it and be
inside of it get to learn something new. So, yes,
we heavily identify with our genders. But this is a
space that is not quite yet, but it is. It is,
it's sort of genderless, you know what I mean, And
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so we promote that what.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
Does genderless need?
Speaker 4 (38:47):
Everybody?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Yeah, so I'll I'll get scientific kind of but like
at inception, everybody is the same gender correct, like when
then defeated, you know.
Speaker 7 (38:58):
What I mean?
Speaker 6 (38:58):
Yeah, everybody, yeah, yeah, even though we have X Y,
but everyone expression is is the same. And so it's
like here we we understand that gender and culture show
up in the the way that we express the gender,
but we also understand that those rules have been put
on us by somebody else, you know what I mean.
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And this is a space to explore that. It doesn't
mean particularly like you have to explore your sexuality or attraction,
but it does hold space for you to show up
like as your authentic self and not to have the
cosplay to a particular gender if you don't want to.
Speaker 8 (39:37):
I kind of feel though, so pretty much, well I'm
gathering from this though. It's like, yo, just come here
and exists and not necessarily have to identify.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
Specific rules of God loved.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Well, yeah, I have all the all rules that men
follow and the all rules that women follow.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
When you're it's more so like beautiful people than versus
you being labeled a man or woman. Like if you're
a beautiful person, you're a good person, y'all.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
Fuck with you?
Speaker 6 (39:59):
You could be m yeah, and just be you, like
be all of you.
Speaker 5 (40:04):
Sure, And I think a lot of times in the
outside world we are, especially in the South, you know,
you're in these boxes like, oh I have to do
this or be this person or and that takes a
toll on your soul.
Speaker 4 (40:17):
And you have to understand when you.
Speaker 5 (40:19):
Step outside of that and you can just like be
you and just embrace your whole self. That ship is transformative.
Speaker 6 (40:28):
And then you have a group of people doing that
as well, and so then you conjure up, you know,
just commuting energy of that over.
Speaker 8 (40:36):
The weekend, even people who say things like bus trains, Yeah,
I'm gonna make sure.
Speaker 1 (40:42):
Okay, So I'm gonna say something that I don't want.
I don't want I don't want to come off as
a person that's unlearned. I haven't done anymore right. But
I'm always examining my thoughts and my feelings. I'm always
examining my place, my role, what my legacy is gonna be.
I'm always trying to figure out that I'm moving intention right,
So while I'm here, I get a lot of love.
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But I also think that I am perceived as I
think people can see me the way I dressed, the
way I walk, the way I talk like straight, yea,
your hed right, and I can see some like what
are you doing here? Not in that way, but also
like this is I feel at home here? Don't fuck
my shit up, right, don't come in here, right? And
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I'm aware of that. So I'm moving attention and the
way that I engage with people. And I also think
that I live that way in the street, right. I
think that I do my best, Like say, I see it.
There's a translator that walked out of our house on
my on my block, and I made sure to be like, yo,
you look great, like you know that she was going out,
and I was like because when she was coming down
the steps, she was like because I was walking up
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the block, and you know, they just you know, it's
just natural to be you know, what am I get
from this month? I'm just trying to go somewhere, and
I wanted to make sure that she feel comfortable, like
you are great tonight. She's like thank you, right, and
so I try to do that all the time. But
I am aware that there is some anks between black
men and the rest of the world period, black women,
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the LGBT community, just literally everybody like we we.
Speaker 4 (42:18):
I would say, yeah, I mean do you feel it
more deeply?
Speaker 6 (42:22):
Yeah? Because yeah, so we always have this not even
a debate, but we agoing dialogue because Marlin is not
a goal star lessing. But you date women, yes, I Fortunately,
unfortunately Ray and Day men don't start. That's a whole
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other conversation. We need several hours today, so there's ahead.
But it's a it is a difference, and Marlon knows
this and I talked. I've talked about it for a decade.
I've always always hell space for sis hetero sexual black
men at this conference. And are your are is your
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family from the South? Where's your where you are?
Speaker 1 (43:07):
No?
Speaker 6 (43:07):
I believe? Okay, So once you know about praying and
then Grandmother's praying for you and you know, covering you,
you know, you know right?
Speaker 5 (43:15):
You know?
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Okay, So like that's the energy that I was so
over black men at this conference because like I I
date men, you know what I mean, I love men.
I don't know if it's conditioning or what or mother
just says I'm straight, right, yeah, but she just thinks
I'm straight. But and so like I've always welcomed the
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States for black men. I always we've always actively recruit
recruit sis heterosexual black men, so whether they consciously know
it or not. And this is part of the sort
of like logistics versus the theory and things that you
can't really explain that cover us you covered here?
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Mm, why do you want?
Speaker 6 (44:03):
That's because it's like I have a like the pinnacle
of all things. I know that we are one, right,
but I also am aware that we are in colonialism
and sins, hetero sexual all the things, and so I
know that there's a divide and we behave differently, yes,
and I know that we all still need healing, all
of us. And so sometimes you have to call it
out specifically. You gotta say, like, hey, you black man, Hey,
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you are safe over here to come and heal you.
A sex worker, you are safe to come over here
and heal you, uh, disabled, you try whatever, You are
safe to come here.
Speaker 5 (44:35):
But I would say, but the difference between like the
straight dynamics is that you all have this like weird
shit going on between the sexes.
Speaker 4 (44:44):
And for me, I love man.
Speaker 5 (44:46):
I think they're great people, you know, because and I'm like, oh, well,
you know I will. I will kiss you and hug
you and rub up on you. And it is so
easy for me to love to love on you easy.
And one of my friends he goes Marla, He's like,
I love you so much. He was like yeah, He's
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like you're you're you are my girl crush, Like I
can't have you, no, no, I love you too, and
I will always love you. We're still friends. I married
him and his wife, you know what I mean. Like,
I'm like, I love you and we will always be
good and close. And I love men, but not romantically
(45:29):
in that way.
Speaker 4 (45:30):
And so I will always laugh upon me. We went
to police and they kept confusing me. They were like
they were like, there's something wrong with her because I
remember there was a guy. He was very muscly, and
I was like, oh my god, I love my muscles.
Speaker 6 (45:44):
Oh yeah, ya ya.
Speaker 4 (45:47):
I was like, I love your muscles. I was like,
can I touch you? Can I touch your muscles?
Speaker 6 (45:51):
And he was like every time we go, I was like, oh,
this is easy to your muscle, said is in love,
it's two to three. But by the end of the trip,
m love though we understand that, you know what I mean, Like,
romantic love is not the only love that it gets
(46:12):
to exist between people.
Speaker 5 (46:13):
Yeah, And I think it was just kind of confused
because I think he was like, you want to fill
on me, but you don't like me, not like.
Speaker 6 (46:21):
That, not like that. Yeah, I like you, You're amazing,
but I like that I am.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
What I love about the SDS, for one, what I've
seen here is the freedom that you're allowed to express, right,
and we haven't even gotten into that, and hopefully we
could just get really get into the beauty that you
see it. But I do believe as a sis had
black Man, we're caging ourselves absolutely right. We're scared to
(46:49):
be that free.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
I think that's part of DNA. One of my one
of my good friends does has done. She was at
Emma University and making DNA and feminism.
Speaker 5 (47:03):
And she was like, it's in your because we're the
generational trauma is transferred, and so is it being transferred
transferred transferred.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
You don't even know why you're putting yourself in a cage.
Speaker 5 (47:16):
It's because of all the generations before you and so
understanding breaking out of that generational trauma. I'm so thankful
for my mother for breaking me, for breaking herself out
of the generational trauma, and for me to be able
to be free and express myself and experience joy and
(47:37):
to be sexually liberated. Right, and my mom was working
the registration desks our first what five six years?
Speaker 4 (47:45):
You know what I mean of the conference.
Speaker 9 (47:48):
So it's just like, how about that, bud for about
you said you're the naked trumpeter.
Speaker 2 (48:04):
He comes to the door.
Speaker 1 (48:05):
You have a whole name. Hey, I'm a naked trumpeter.
Like what are you talking about? Your name is Eli.
You couldn't just go with Eli my mother one time
and then work your way to the naked trumpeter.
Speaker 2 (48:19):
Hey, I hoe Trumpet's naked.
Speaker 6 (48:25):
I want to say something just And so we think
about we're talking about DNA, but also especially as black folks,
especially as black folks in the South, we share DNA
through community. So like Marla had the the beautiful experience
of having that mother, I did not. But I do
(48:47):
understand like reparenting, and I've been able to be reparented
through this relationship.
Speaker 1 (48:54):
You know, again, I don't.
Speaker 8 (48:58):
Leave my city that much, so I don't know what
I know, right.
Speaker 7 (49:02):
I always say that listen, you deal with you know, classism, socialism, racism,
social condition, all that shit on a day to day basis, and.
Speaker 8 (49:11):
We as a you know, as a straight black man,
we kind of stay in our own box.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
But what I would say when I came here this weekend,
there was this young lady that will pass me and like,
she walked past.
Speaker 3 (49:24):
Me, but I asked, was still in front of me?
Speaker 2 (49:26):
And I was like, God, damn, she think it's grit.
Speaker 7 (49:30):
And I look to the right of me, and this
old white guy looked like my college professor who failed
me for copying the old paragraph.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
And I'll be honest, only shit, I haven't seen bring
people like that together. The Knicks win.
Speaker 7 (49:43):
So what I would tell you, guys is if you
come me sex down South man. Besides the Knicks winning,
it's the only time I've seen people from different sides
of the world, different groups, people you probably would never
in your life talk to on a regular day to
day basis.
Speaker 8 (49:56):
Might be a one or gazillion chance you would interact
with a person.
Speaker 4 (50:02):
Everywhere.
Speaker 6 (50:02):
Yeah, And I think it's because like and we we
talk about this is still hard. We're so we are
different and so like this is literally our like brain
and energetic child. Those instances are like natural occurrences for us. Yes,
and so like the freedom and the liberation and all
the things. This is turnkey every single day how we
(50:24):
live our lives. And then we want to you know,
share that with the people at the conference.
Speaker 1 (50:30):
Wul you we spoke about to be right, but we
haven't spoke about so many of the other things that
that that happened here. For one, I don't know how
to do you guys, even like being compared to Exotica.
Speaker 6 (50:45):
No, no, not m no, it's different.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
What's the difference because people would think that.
Speaker 5 (50:50):
You know, well, I think Exotica is more sex worker
porn based, like the vendors and everything.
Speaker 10 (51:00):
Just relax, okay, the vendors everything is different, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
It's more important.
Speaker 5 (51:09):
And yes they have the educational piece and that's nice,
but that's not the focus us.
Speaker 4 (51:16):
We're like education, that's.
Speaker 5 (51:18):
What we're doing during the day that you were learning
about yourself during the day, there's no other choice.
Speaker 4 (51:25):
And then at night.
Speaker 5 (51:27):
Because in our motto, work hard and play harder.
Speaker 4 (51:31):
Yeah, so that's what we do. Education. Then we play hard,
we do the entertainment in the evening and going out
and do it all over.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah. Yeah, we're talking about you guys. Allow food to hear, Yes,
throughout the space.
Speaker 6 (51:46):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (51:48):
The classes I've seen everything from erotic writing to human
decolonizing sex or genuine you know, and I've been to
a lot of them, one of which kind of restored
my faith in my purpose in what I do with
sex work. Literally I was at SUSI as even a panel.
(52:13):
Oh absolutely, of course. But I think the difference for
me and I've been to exotic certain times is exactly
what Mala said. Those classes speak to people and their
experiences and information is their community is formed. It's even right.
Speaker 10 (52:37):
I just talked.
Speaker 1 (52:39):
And she made me write like a paragraph and read
it out loud and you know, to people listening, if
you part of the Patreon, I'm gonna put a bunch
of those in there. They let me film it. But
it was so it was like a release, and it
was an awareness that came like, oh I forgot I
could do this, Like I didn't even realize, like I
(52:59):
do this cancer somebody. I didn't realize it's a part
of me too. And then I took so much pride
in it. Right. I read it and I was like, wow,
I did that, bro exactly read and read my hand.
It was hard. It was difficult.
Speaker 2 (53:13):
It was actually very difficult. You missed. But they got
a little pool. Listen. They got a lot wrestling.
Speaker 4 (53:19):
Yeah, the King Olympics. Man, man, that was a heavy
bottoms last.
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Night when he said that, you were.
Speaker 2 (53:28):
Remember kindergarten. This a little girl. We was wrestling. She
was man greasy. I couldn't get ahold of.
Speaker 6 (53:35):
Ship.
Speaker 1 (53:38):
I gotta deal with this every day.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
They got a little pool.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
There was a live porn shoot with anybody that attended
could watch a live point shoot. It was a threesome.
It was an m m F m F m.
Speaker 6 (53:56):
Oh no, you're right.
Speaker 1 (53:56):
It was n work.
Speaker 2 (54:00):
We were on tow commge to like stick.
Speaker 1 (54:02):
Baylor was like.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
The build with this big he he's.
Speaker 6 (54:12):
I don't know what I thought it was. I didn't
think we're going to use it. I thought it was
just like a.
Speaker 1 (54:17):
It was had.
Speaker 8 (54:19):
I thought that she was decoration.
Speaker 2 (54:21):
She pulled out that fire hydrant. Thick, that's what the
fuck you're doing with that?
Speaker 6 (54:24):
She did it?
Speaker 1 (54:26):
What and she and she and he did it? He
shout out to them. Somebody asked me, I know, we
have to wrap up. If somebody asked me, like, yo,
how do you feel? And I'm like, bro, it's pleasure.
It doesn't and I'm not looking at it like oh,
he's this and it's just pleasure, like enjoying himself and
I've done that much work, right, that's a real nigga.
(54:48):
I'm like, he's watching basketball. I was not.
Speaker 2 (55:01):
I was not.
Speaker 8 (55:06):
Ship.
Speaker 1 (55:06):
How would I describe it?
Speaker 3 (55:08):
Look, listen, I came in here not knowing what the
hell is going on. In his defense, he didn't really
know what's going on other so.
Speaker 7 (55:13):
He couldn't necessarily tell me what was going on, Like, Yo,
it's something again. It's never been a dull moment. Every
day it's some new ship that's like in my long
term memory bank. I'm like, man, put it like this,
this is the kind of weekend. Now when I leave here,
I can't tell nobody to think that is.
Speaker 8 (55:29):
Not gonna believe me, yo, Like it's like a eye.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Not They're not gonna believe me. Like, yeah, y'all, I
was in this crazy ass hotel. Everybody was sexy. Look
way of freaking was wrestling something fire hydrant.
Speaker 7 (55:44):
Did they look at me like, Yo, we gotta put
this nigga in the second crazy, I'm gonna be.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Like, I can't tell nobody.
Speaker 1 (56:01):
Live.
Speaker 6 (56:02):
I think that's what about Lord to It is very
hard to explain what six You just have to come.
That was a model, just come and we asked you
last minute. They won't be on the schedule, and.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
I'm talking about I want to say, one hundred classes
maybe throughout the three days. Every hour there's something else,
and as in every hour there are multiple things. So
you're literally here doing all of this work and at
night you got pool parties, you got lou wrestling, you
got it's like you got a little bit and it's
(56:39):
black people. It is black people, black people and king black,
queer people, black just it's just literally for us, right,
And I think that's also a major difference to anything
else that's happening out there. A message We're at the
end of the episode, Tiya and Marla, what is a
message that you want to say to people out there
(57:00):
that don't know about sex down South but you want
them here?
Speaker 4 (57:05):
Hmm. I mean, I don't know. I feel like it's
sort of like our tag lines.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
Just just come.
Speaker 5 (57:15):
You just don't know what you're going to experience until
you get here, and it's so great.
Speaker 4 (57:21):
Like we've had people who've met here who have gotten married.
Speaker 5 (57:25):
You know, they're like we met our sex down south
and we're married and were come every year, you know,
Like we call it your exploring, your exploration, So it's
just sort of like you here, you're here to explore,
find yourself because a lot of and heal yourself, because
I mean, that's part of the healing space, right Why
(57:46):
we have.
Speaker 4 (57:47):
The healing space, why we have the on call emotional support.
Speaker 5 (57:50):
You hear people crying, willing healing, you know, and that's
one of the most beautiful things I think, you know,
people could ever experience.
Speaker 4 (58:02):
So I mean, yeah, you see it to believe it.
Speaker 1 (58:10):
We're going to wrap up now. I want to just
say thank you ladies so much for opening my eyes
to this. I have definitely invited. I've already invited the
whole Nut Navy by our whole Patreon group. Like yo,
next year, we're doing a meet up here, So we're
going to block out the months before so that we're
not like pulling money here. This is where we want
(58:32):
to I want to see this growth. I've always said
that I went on a lifestyle cruise. I'm sorry, Cameron,
I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I went on a lifestyle cruise
and I didn't feel home. I was like, why don't
because I think, like I said, think about my LEXI,
why aren't we doing this? Why don't we have this
(58:52):
type of space? And we're like so broken. He got
some people in the land, you got some people in LA,
you got some people in New York. We need to
link and build this not for just us, but for
our communities right and give ourselves a freedom that they
respectfully them, they have that every day. We have to
create it and it's just it's not going to be
(59:13):
that hard if we link up and do it together. Definitely.
I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (59:19):
Ye we want to hotel, we want to. We don't
want to sell.
Speaker 6 (59:23):
Yeah, we want to hotel take over we will Yeah,
we want to hold take over so they can't tell
us next. Okay, do whatever we want right that is
that is the goal.
Speaker 1 (59:32):
We will do it. Sex, love, relationships and accountability. I'm
here with Tea and Marler of sex down South. Where
can these people find you?
Speaker 4 (59:43):
Sucks down south dot com. We're on Instagram. At ss con, do.
Speaker 1 (59:49):
Your research through the knowledge the bottom tickets next year,
you got to be here.
Speaker 6 (59:53):
They all pre sale.
Speaker 1 (59:58):
Oh it's so good. Also good A thank you, thank you,
thank you,
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