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This week the crew talk about what they actually thought play parties were before they actually experienced one vs what they actually are, finding out your partner is an exhibitionist, what their secks name would be, Tahoes plans for the Halloween play party, Yesssterday takes Tahoe to Homie Court, Tahoe not being able to pleasure himself while on vacation with Loon, the guys experience at Sex Down South, Tahoe and Loons experience watch a live porn scene at Sex Down South and if straight men should be welcomed into a Queer centered space with open arms or is it understandable if there is some hesitation by the LGBTQIA community. This convo got deep! ENJOY!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, those of you who don't know, November first is
a very special day. On top of it being Halloween weekend,
that's right, it's also the day of Born to Be Wild,
a Halloween Safari auditioned themed party, play party collab with
Kinks and Drinks, constructed by none the one and only

(00:21):
Court in Chavon. Please, guys, please go to our page,
click the link in our bio fill out the vetting form.
You cannot get in if you are not vetted. This
is not a center text and pop about the door
type of event have to be vetted. What else am
I missing?

Speaker 2 (00:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Also, don't forget early bird tickets are up on September
twenty second. If it's after September twenty second, that means
the shit has sold the fuck out. We have over
one hundred new vetting people already. I'm literally stopping the
garbage truck vetting three four people people I know My
partner will be.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Behind me, Like yo, move the truck.

Speaker 3 (01:04):
We have Kingston Drinks, five new doms. Ideally have some
of your favors are coming back. That is from six
thirty to nine thirty, and then we're going over to
the house where we will be there from nine thirty
two four am. It's free food, Chakuzi, fire pit, rooftop,

(01:25):
several themes rooms. If you're going to the vetting form
and you're doing it now, you can give us your fantasy.
You may be picked to be performed on in Fantasy Island.
I might also be bringing the massage to the milking
table because a lot of people have been asking for
the milk and table.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
What about your machine?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, oh it's the fucking machine. If I bring the
milking table, I'll probably being there.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
I don't like bringing a lot of stuff because then
you know, you gotta bring it in the U haul,
you know what I'm saying. So once I get the
U haul, then I start bringing all types of shit out,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
But the milker table will most likely be there.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
We will have messuss at kings and drinks as well
as Angelo of course will be at the house.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
So yeah, we'll see y'all November. First.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
First, for Born to be Wild, head over to the
Heart Orsoft show dot com to be vetted, or if
you've already been vetted and been to our previous parties,
just email us at Hard or Soft Events at gmail
dot com get your safari gear.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Now let's go.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Can I ask you a question, why you don't ever
play with my nipples? I got nipples too. It's my
turn to get tied up. Knock the handcufs though I
got PTSD.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Welcome to the heart of soft where men speak. So
hopefully somebody will understand when you say freaky? What's freaky?
What do you mean by freaky? If I do this,
you're not going to tell your friends?

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Right? He's actually he's a he's a big artist on

(03:25):
workers He's a big artist on the lower right now. Huh.
He's like Drake for luck for for young niggers. Like
he's like God, I didn't even know that.

Speaker 5 (03:35):
Yeah, I didn't know. I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Did you see the cliff of the people.

Speaker 5 (03:39):
It looks scary, it looks like it looked like.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
A Waiian like people like.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
Bank.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
He could go on like he could probably like tour.
I didn't even know he could do that. Bro, His
his kid's cult following is insane.

Speaker 5 (03:58):
But that's what like these young artists are. They're just
like they have a lot of cult following.

Speaker 1 (04:01):
I feel like you don't make music. He's bigger than
he's like the biggest one.

Speaker 5 (04:06):
Yeah, he's the biggest one.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
He's like for Drake Niggas. Yeah, he's like little Drake.

Speaker 4 (04:11):
You got to remember to all of the people in
his lane, respectfully in jail.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
So he like he's really like the only one left
from that.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
He's the only one that's.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
That's still left, that's still left from I'm talking about
from old boogie. He's just from New York boogie is
also he also not used to boogie was a little
bit before him, like the pop smokes.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
A boogie was him before that. Twenty sixteen was like god, no.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Was not.

Speaker 5 (04:41):
I feel like only it for New York, but Houston.
But he did not, he didn't. He didn't go beyond that.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
You know, he was very successful. You're right, he was
very successful, but he didn't have the face.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
He didn't have a cult.

Speaker 4 (04:54):
Yeah, he had like the general audience, like you know,
he did good and he did really really well from
a g let's.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Talk about sex, Mawaiian rappers and ship like that.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Finally get laid know how to act waiting us around
like look what I touched you.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Look, look look at the picture of my service and
crush I don't know how to act.

Speaker 5 (05:22):
That's too much for me.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
You get here looking kind of golden.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Is it the sun?

Speaker 5 (05:25):
Or is looking at.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
Nigga?

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Cody came and looking Guyanese.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
I don't even know what to say to her, Like
what do we I can't there's so much going on.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, I know what to say, old ones. Please thank you.

Speaker 4 (05:43):
Yeah, she's been saying, yeah, she count paid more than
everybody with your bread and sad. I ain't gonna go
on the cruise, big dog.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
I said, that's something going on the cruise.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
What can we talk about that? I don't want to
put put your.

Speaker 4 (05:57):
Stuff out platter.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
There ain't left on the plate.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Today started, let's talk about sex. Well, this is this
is for Patreon paton cruise the cruise. Everything else is fine,
but the cruises on Patreon?

Speaker 4 (06:17):
All right, isn't the whole only only this segment that's
not a every isn't everything on Patreon.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
Audio audio audio? Usually everything is there vis on Patreon.
She wanted this particular audio segment.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
By the way, before we talk about any of this stuff.
I hope you all already y'all know what's going on.
November first, first, all right, Born to be wild, the
hard Oween, Navy Kinks and drinks and play party right.
It's going crazy, bro, the fucking Dean. I don't know
if y'all seeing the emails. The ships is nuts. Vetting

(07:00):
for him is nuts. It's always been our biggest party
of the year, but it's going It's sick right now.

Speaker 5 (07:05):
I had to shut off the emails on my laptop
because I was like, this is too.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Much, yo, I haven't seen it like this in a
long time. I thought we lost him, I lost our mojo.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
But ship nah, they was waiting for us to come back.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
They was waiting for her for hart of Ween because no,
I think he don't he don't call it that. We
have new domb tops at Kingston Drinks. We got Master
Readio and he's gonna come in here soon, in a
week or two something like that. I mean he actually

(07:43):
is a fire top. And that don't mean he's dope.
It means he does fire.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Right. I'm weak.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
We have one of the young ladies that Phoenix is
going to be in there with the knife play her
friend Mimsy. You actually hired her, right, yo, It's so
much bk Over Fiend is coming back.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
I know in charge of it, but yeah, no, no, no,
I know it's happening. Does just need to get in
contact with all these people.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
So it's just kind of like so yeah, just a
context so much if you want to come now.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
I want to tell you when y'all first heard of
play parties, When y'all first heard of it, what did
you think it was?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
Everybody here? What do y'all think it was?

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (08:28):
People just fucking everywhere?

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Literally?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
I just thought that people was just like you walk
in and just people just everybody's on everybody like a
big assy.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
I mean, well that's that would be a dope one
that has happened like late in the night where y'all
go into the big room with the mirror on the
ceiling and everybody's literally it has happened, But that's not
what it is normally, right, What did you think when
you first heard the play party?

Speaker 1 (08:51):
Which I thought, like, you walk up to like a
big ass security guard. Are you going through a door
to elevator, go to the basement, it's like a speakeasy
and you open that shit and everybody and they're fucking
so like org, Yeah, I just it was like one
big ass like WrestleMania Royal Rumble type ship.

Speaker 2 (09:06):
Yeah, yesterday, what did you do?

Speaker 1 (09:09):
Something similar?

Speaker 4 (09:09):
I thought not to be funny, but I knew you
do the I knew that you threw these for a
long time, so I thought like you was like the
final boss like that, like Loon said on some basement ship,
everybody just there and it's crazy. It was like everybody
fucking like I'm talking about like you said, like you
said in the promo, like niggas hanging from the ceiling and.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
All of that. Well, he was hanging from the ceiling one. Yeah,
I actually was hanging there for that.

Speaker 5 (09:31):
You know. I wasn't here for that, but I remember
the story that was Wow, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
Actually was hanging from he was actually, so you actually are,
So I'm actually kind of right here. He's a fucking chandler.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
But I also thought that people would be on drugs
and everybody's like, are like that, that's.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Kind I means shrooms now, so you kind of far off.

Speaker 3 (09:57):
Okay, And so what do y'all if y'a would have
what do you think it actually is now that y'all
have all been to play party before, what do you think.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
It actually is?

Speaker 5 (10:06):
I think it's for people to explore some of their
wildest dreams, wilder sexual dreams. I think it's there to
explore it or get introduced into things or to Yeah,
I just think it's like an exploratory situation for a
lot of people when they did part like play parties.
Now that's why I think of it.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
It's a miscellaneous sexual activity. So I say miscellaneous because like.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
You don't really know.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
It's not think about it, because like you could go
in there and just be the person watching going there
and being a person getting watch. You could being there,
be the person flogging. You could be the person doing
an impact, person doing role play, or the nigga hanging
from the ceiling. So I kind of feel like you
pretty much just like it's like sex on shuffle. You
never know what you might see, what you might encounter,
what you might do. So yeah, you know, shit, some

(10:55):
some niggas being in for the food. I was in
never mind, but I was, you know, I was at
the snack table first played fool. We had some vegetable
yo cream, only some vegetables. I don't want to talk
about it, but it's really like just a miscellaneous random
sexual playlist. Like that's how I look at it, But

(11:17):
you know, I also.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Think that it's like a gathering spot for people, like
people like I enjoyed myself sitting at the bar and
just talking to people and it was not all about sex.
It was just really just talking to our community and
just like getting to know them more. That was firing itself.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, I like being yesterday. What do you think it
is now that you've been there? That's what I've I
was saying.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
The more what Corney says to me, it's really more
of a show of like the community that you know
that comes from the show and even like the extension
of it. And basically, like Courney said, it's kind of
like a hangout but because this is you know, obviously
a sex show, so it's like all the spectrums of
that in the hangout, right, So you can, you know,
you can get there, you can talk, you can do

(11:57):
little ship impact play, fireplay whatever, like, you can actually
have sex. You could not have sex, you could watch.
It's just like said, there's so many different things, you
know what I'm saying. So I feel like if you're
into that or you want to get into it, it's
definitely something I think is good for like a you
know what they say, like an intro to kink.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Right when I.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
First started to go to these parties, my stomach was
in knots. The first time my stomach was in knots.
My dick must have shriveled up and like traveled up into.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
You know when you want to roller coaster that you're
about to go.

Speaker 6 (12:34):
Like that.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
I was so nervous. I don't know why I was nervous,
but I just had like this ball in my chest.
And I got there and I realized most people was
just chilling and they do playing the music, or you
got your drinks and you might see some of the voyeurs.
Because I remember the first party I actually went to
to go do stuff.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
It was like this little.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
I wouldn't say Yemen looking dude from Yemen, you know
what I mean. Like he walked in and he stripped
down butt naked at the.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
Door into the park.

Speaker 4 (13:10):
He didn't want to like warm up, He's get my
money's worth and he had a mask on because it
was COVID.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
You know.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
Pain during that time was very weird.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I mean, so those kind of people, the people who
are like super exhibitionists, they get to it.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
So while you're drinking at the bar or something. You're
looking over there and somebody's getting the.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
Ship cracked over or the flog is just wow, slapping
somebody in that wow. But it ain't really super action yet, right.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You might be getting something to eat, you're drinking, you're
talking to people, whatever, whatever, whatever.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
But you get really comfortable and throughout the night you start.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
Seeing more scenes and it's like a seed, especially if
you're with your person, because they're doing stuff over there
and you look at your person like that, you will
do that.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
We do that for real, just like I feel. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:02):
I have heard about that, right, and most times, by
the end of the party, y'all would exploring doing some shit.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
And I think it's an experience.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
If you have it in your mind to do, if
you're curious about it, it's worth giving it a shot.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
I'm telling you. That's all people, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (14:24):
When they ask me like, oh, so, what do they
be doing at the parties, I'm just like, it really
is chill until the night and it progresses into the night.
It's not like share off the back you see, Yeah,
you don't see that. It's like everyone's really trilling, and
through the night it turns into what you were saying,
seeing many scenes throughout the night, and you know, people

(14:45):
just think they think fifty shades of gray and I'm like, eh,
not really, not all the.

Speaker 1 (14:50):
Way, well like twenty five shades.

Speaker 4 (14:52):
Well, I mean it depends on what party you go to. Yeah,
because we were You want to talk about that in
the second hit.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
But this exhibition and ship, yo, it goes let this
one said that she would not into doing parties. Remember,
he was like, oh, you're shaming her, You're shaming her.
But when we were out there, I got a funny
text in the group chat from Courtney m hm hmmmm
about her current situation. I'm waiting to see if you're

(15:21):
going to say because I don't want to say it.

Speaker 5 (15:24):
I said that he would be if he's open to it,
I would probably do it.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
About the harder. We got him standing there looking out
my window.

Speaker 5 (15:44):
It was late at night, though there was cars.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
The cars. Was the sentence that you said to us
finding out?

Speaker 5 (15:52):
I got it, I got it, I got it. Read it.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Why would you read that? Was nasty?

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (15:58):
What you so ridiculous?

Speaker 4 (16:00):
I can't wait to talk about this fucking walking pile
of ridiculousness.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
He was right about you, I said.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Also, finding out a man likes his ass in and
into exhibitionism in the same night, is he cool?

Speaker 2 (16:19):
What you're taking that?

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Are you sure?

Speaker 2 (16:24):
I think?

Speaker 6 (16:26):
So?

Speaker 1 (16:30):
You got a pinch slip?

Speaker 5 (16:32):
He's going to a pitch And then who came.

Speaker 3 (16:34):
Back several times, several times. I'm sorry, I don't mean
no beef, I don't want to. I'm just joking. You know,
she can't get I.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Did get a pink slips. He came back, so I
got so I got my job. Trying to get my
job back. He tried to rehire me.

Speaker 1 (16:48):
She was not expected the situation.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Yes, this price is not today's price. Yesterday's pussy is
not today. Those day's pussy is not today. So you
found out how you tell the story?

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Yeah, so I found out because it's so funny. I
found out because I was sucking dick and in the
car it was it was and uh, as I was
second dick, this leg kind of went like this the
first time, and I was like, oh, maybe he likes

(17:25):
oh he likes play. Okay, So so then the next
time he had sex, I was like, you like ass
playing He's like, yeah, it's like, oh, say less, say less,
eating aid mad long Like the last couple of men

(17:47):
I dated, They don't they don't like they wasn't lay out.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
With it rusty.

Speaker 5 (17:51):
I wasn't rusty.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I'm sure burned by hair.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Can you imagine somebody doing that in your butt?

Speaker 5 (18:05):
Like no, I wouldn't be doing that, but.

Speaker 1 (18:14):
You could forget how to do Yeah.

Speaker 5 (18:15):
I was really rusty because I forgot how to eat
as it's a whole.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
If you don't clarists, bro, it doesn't matter. It's still
a technique. There's certain plays you run.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
It's a technique to eating it.

Speaker 1 (18:24):
She probably write a sentence, right, I forgot what the sentence.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Was, like this man ship sentence.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
So you know you never heard you never heard? Well,
the oldest play in the book where're eating pussy? Like
write the alphabet and the pussy. It don't. I don't
think that work. But sometimes people have like plays, like
certain patterns they go.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
To at types of show. I don't know, I just
do stuff we can tell.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Okay, so he's not just Jesus correct. But then the
leg went up and I was like you like ass,
like you like your ass eating and he said yeah.
So I was like, oh, say less, oh and then
yeah while eating ass and then.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Got a little rusty trombone actually going.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Yeah. And that's how that's actually the most.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
Fire part of it, when they playing, when they jerking
your while they doing it. Oh it's lit. Yeah, Oh
it's super lit.

Speaker 7 (19:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Oh yes, you ain't never did that.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
You're scared.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
You're still scared of your bo You're still scared that
you're going to see a rainbow something stick their tongue
in you.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
But why are you shaming him?

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Because that's what I do.

Speaker 8 (19:27):
But I don't like that, yo, shame shame, shame, shame
on sexual positive platform, not shame our patrons.

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Also, yeah, the standing up, play in the butt and
jerking new off old baby.

Speaker 1 (19:43):
YEA be liking that because I'll be, I be willing,
I'll be about to fall yeah, and if I fall on,
I get so weak.

Speaker 5 (19:50):
That's a week for real.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Yeah, but I thought you.

Speaker 5 (19:54):
I had a lot of conversations about this about you know,
I wanted to leave it up to explort, like I
and to explore. I went into like I was like,
I'm willing to explore more kinks and things with you.
So nice, so that I'm getting to know him more.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Right, So that's the first part that's in the crib.
Y'all did that whatever? And then what was the second part?

Speaker 5 (20:17):
The second part, Well, he opened up my window like
my curtain tied.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
It and he who's that pigging through my window?

Speaker 5 (20:27):
And he pressed me up against the window like this,
So I'm like this, titties all in the window. I'm
all in the window. He's hitting it from behind him,
just like, yeah, yeah, you're.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
Anxiety, didn't go crazy?

Speaker 1 (20:44):
Who were you in that moment? This is a different court.
I was about to say this, right, he has.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
Fighter man and ship, Like, who were you in the
moment that you have a sash of fierce for this?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
This is big shop.

Speaker 5 (20:58):
Shop of your nasty shop.

Speaker 8 (21:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
You imagine if you tell niggas when they you to
call you savon, that would be kind of fire. Like
if I shorty like like, yo, fucking don't call me
by my first and call me like Charlie.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Yeah, Charlene, Charlene, Yo, what the fuck that would I mean?

Speaker 1 (21:18):
Charlen? Call me call me Kim, call me Kimmy, call
me Kim. That's a white girl name, Like yo, what
the fuck you want. Charlene is too black, Kimmy is white.
It's not even old.

Speaker 5 (21:30):
Yes, Anthony Hamilton, that's.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
The Hamilton niggas, Like, just say some wild wrong ship
joint said Charlene, Charlene.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
This is Charlene in the disc Ho she fucked y'all up.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
I hope that's not her sex name. I hope she's
got yo. But you're right.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Both of y'all are correct.

Speaker 3 (21:51):
If you were to tell somebody joint like before, yo,
don't while we're doing this, I'm not.

Speaker 5 (21:57):
Yes, I'm call me this that'd be fire. Don't call
me Kik Batman though.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
No, So it gotta be like a name.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
What would you?

Speaker 1 (22:05):
What would your freaking name be? So your Chavon right, Yeah,
even though it's cheek because is actually your middle name?

Speaker 5 (22:10):
Right, But that's but nobody calls me by the middle name.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
What would your what would you?

Speaker 2 (22:13):
I don't have one.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I can't even think of because I would be thinking like,
why would I be to close? Something like it would
have to be some like extraterrestrial.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yeah, I can't imagine. I can't be like, yeah, baby,
call me Brandon.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
Now.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
When she meets the nigga she's gonna be like like
trav like yeah, I can't.

Speaker 5 (22:37):
Yeah, the only thing name that you have for a man.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Is like daddy.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I would have said that, but then everybody says it's
so weird now, like it's so it's so tricky. You know.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
I noticed this, and I'm talked to yesterday in private
about this, that they have nots and that do nots
control the perspective of the social medias and all that,
but ones that won't.

Speaker 2 (22:58):
They shame it so bad. Had to have fun with it, right.
You gotta be really confident, like like you know that
I do. What I do is what it is.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Y'all get shame what you want, but you, you know,
being a person on this platform skill and say yeah
I like being called daddy me personally, I like that,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
They try to make it seem.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
Like it's you know, oh, like a weird like you
know what I real like tragedy ship No.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
No, when it comes to the world. I realized this
honestly within like the last I've been new this, but
I'm seeing it for real. You gotta be able to
like do what you do and not really give a
fuck about what people don't really think sometimes if you
want to, if I want a chick to call me daddy,
I don't care if you think it's creepy. That's what
I like, That's what I'm into. Yeah, I'm saying I
can't because if you if every time you step, you

(23:41):
think about stepping for somebody else's accepted, you ain't never
gonna really take no real steps.

Speaker 5 (23:45):
Which is also why people don't get into.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Kink very much. So I go off Twitter.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
People don't get into kink because they worried about what
everybody else doing think. And that's one thing that's the
dopest part about coming to play parties. It's what happens
here stays here. Everybody here is into the shit. Everybody
here is to say funny. Is you a funny guy
willing to play or want to play or curious to play?
Everybody here is on that. You understand what I'm saying.

(24:15):
So what I didn't say is the early bird tickets
are on sale, which means there are discounted prices.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Right.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
We do that just so the people that are in
the nut navy, the people that is like yo, I'm down,
can get a little discount that is on sale until
September twenty second.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
After that the tickets go up to regular price.

Speaker 3 (24:35):
I'm talking about some of the thirty forty dollars increase
in prices.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
You under see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
If you want to come and you've been to the
parties and you've been vetted, email us at Hard or
Soft Events at gmail dot com. If you have not
been to a party, but you're interested and you want
to know all information, go to Thehard Orsoft show dot com.
Hit the vetting link. It says vetting in the in
you right, and then fill out the vetting form. One

(25:04):
thing that I you know, I'm always trying to come
up with some new ship. I don't know if I told.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Y'all, is this the mirror box?

Speaker 6 (25:09):
No?

Speaker 2 (25:10):
I still haven't thought about it.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Remember the say it?

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Okay, let's I really want the mirror box.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
Let's talk about this. Hooled on.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Somebody sent a fantasy. So in the vetting form they
have all of these different fantasies. One of the fantasies
was I want to be chased down, I want to
be tied up, I want to be blindfolded, and then
I want several people to like, just do what they
want with me after chasing me down and tying me
to like a chair or whatever whatever.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I said that to Navy. I was like, yo, would'll
be open to helping this person do it? And a
lot of them was like, yes, that shit sounds mad
fun if they consent into it, this is what they want.
We could chase them through the house, catch them, tie
them down, blindfold them, and then just start manipulating.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
And I was like yo.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
I hit the email the person back like YO, would
are you seriously interested in doing that? Because we would
help make that happen. I think Hetro or somebody came
up with the name fantasy Island. M So what we're
going to do is if you fill out the vetting
form and you write a fantasy that we find you know,
because people, it was like, y'all want to have threesomes,

(26:19):
Like yo, I'm not going to set up Yeah, I'm
not going to We're not going to Oh I want
to get my suck by two girls, or I want
an all female.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
Orgy, Like you got to set up that own play,
but like that, that's your own play.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I say this.

Speaker 3 (26:31):
One girl was like, I want to get tired. I
want to be walked through the crowd like a dog
on a leash. And then I want ten guys to
nutt on me.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
No penetration, that's fired, No, that's hired.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
They are wild. Of course.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
One of Loon's man's oh.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. That was crazy. Want me
to yeah, he said, I have one fantasy I have
yet to film. That is eating the box in a
tub full of jello.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
I said, I sent out a couple of venom forms
today yesterday. So nobody that lives in your world is
a real person.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
This is what is what I'm seeing. I think you
see like color.

Speaker 3 (27:16):
You're like you're walking around and everybody's a cartoon. And
this is why you have those glasses on, because it
makes people seem more real. Because it doesn't make sense
that a person that knows him, the one nigga that
know me, would come up with this. And the nigga
said that when he said referral by Loon, Yeah, I
know him from working with Mercedes.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Oh Mercedes, you lion, we you're lying.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
He wants to eat box and a tub full of.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
Why would he?

Speaker 4 (27:47):
Boy?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Is that even? Is that even like.

Speaker 5 (27:51):
A lot of jello?

Speaker 4 (27:53):
Is?

Speaker 1 (27:53):
What I will say is this. I've seen something that
is weakend that doesn't make that that far fetched. And
you know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
We've seen a lot of things.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Yeah, yeah, I feel like I've said a lot of
things at Atlanta.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
You talk about that in a second.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Cannot wait.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
But how much jello?

Speaker 1 (28:06):
That's a lot.

Speaker 5 (28:06):
That's a lot of yellow? That's a lot.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Do you even make a tub full of jello?

Speaker 5 (28:12):
Because you have to freeze it right, don't have to
put it put inator So you have to put in
a commercial refrigerator.

Speaker 3 (28:17):
Or you have to make mad bowls of it and
doing it because it don't it's not I don't think
it's gonna melt.

Speaker 5 (28:23):
Right now unless it's out for a very long time.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
You make another one, you put it in there, put
it in there.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
That's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
You have to just make a lot of jello at
one time. That's something you're gonna have to do on
your own. Yeah, I'm not even investing.

Speaker 5 (28:35):
My thing is like we would need a commercial frigerator.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Nobody's buying two hundred dollars in yellow, bro.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
That's I don't like jello, so that's nasty. I'm not
a jealous do not like jello because yellow shot.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I just don't eat gel in general, but because it's porking. No,
don't eat it because we're moving two thousands a jello.

Speaker 5 (28:56):
I don't like the text.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
Put jelo on your mouth and you I love jealous
through your teeth. It's amazing, love that that face, Courtney.

Speaker 5 (29:07):
Sorry.

Speaker 2 (29:10):
So yeah, if you have a fantasy that we find
to be something that is like feasible, and.

Speaker 4 (29:18):
I would say not something only we could do, but
can only really happen in a spot like this, right,
it's something that we will email you and see if
you actually want to do it.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Because a lot of our Navy people we've been to
these parties. We want to have excitement. We want to
provide excitement, you know what I'm saying, like, and we're
open to ship like that. So it's like, yo, if
you have one and you put it into your vet
and form, don't be surprised if you get an email
from us and we ask you if you dead ass,
because we're going to give volunteers and when you come,

(29:50):
you know, obviously we'll wait till you comfortable and everything.
If the Kings Drinks is gonna be crazy in itself,
and yo, hold up. We've had multiple massusas.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
That want to perform at Kings of Drinks at the
party and that Kings and Drinks.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Ha.

Speaker 5 (30:03):
Yeah, we're gonna have to come together. We got to
get everything together so we can make this right for everybody,
for Kingston Drinks and the play party.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Her organization brains. Yeah, she tried to. She caught it, though,
she caught it because she's about to be like, ah,
let's have a meeting.

Speaker 5 (30:22):
We don't have to talk. You don't have to talk.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
A lot of y'all don't know Courtney ones the Kings
and Drinks most times. And yeah, it's a lot for her,
you know.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
But we're getting it done, be.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Done, organization. So fellas, how was that coming?

Speaker 6 (30:39):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
How was that? Atlanta?

Speaker 2 (30:40):
Don't try it?

Speaker 1 (30:41):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no, no, no
over there, no, because you already know what you already know.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
You see what he's doing right now. You don't know,
oh my gosh, but he knows now it's.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
About to happen. No no, no, no, no no no
no no no go ahead, do it, go ahead, do it.
I come into discord. I haven't been in the discord.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
No no, no, hold on hold on IM trying to
try to believe you did that.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I was believe that's still man funny.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
But yeah, no, no, no, I'm asking about the trip
you guys had. It was an amazing time. Today I'm
here to try to take me to homie court for
what would you It's never listen, it's not important at
this point.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
It's not important.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
Did you win?

Speaker 1 (31:27):
No, I didn't win.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
I had to.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I had to withdraw my case.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
I let him drop the charges. Let him drop the charge?

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Are you capped the plete Alpha fleet? The little Uh?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
What happened? Because they got the Jerry mouse?

Speaker 6 (31:46):
Like?

Speaker 4 (31:47):
What's going he said, oh nah, hold on because you
I don't like how you're going through it. Okay, So
I thought I had hold on some I thought I
had him cold, right, So you had him cold him
that the rights or something? So I think so over
the weekend, so I guess I knew obviously we knew
him a loon was gonna go out and smash the
event down south, right, So we knew that was gonna happen, right,

(32:09):
So I know that it was going to some work ship.
Niggas is locked in. Niggas is grinding all that boom
so I did see.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
I did. I just so happened to see what seemingly
looked like to me.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
I thought that's how Hold had shut the restaurant down,
and I thought him and Loon had went out for
a bite. So I was like, I thought, yeah, I
thought him Malone had like a little one on one time.
I'm like, oh, you're shutting the ship down, Chest, I
thought shut it down. So I'm like, hmm, this is interesting,
not like a loom. It was no, no, no, no,

(32:41):
you're good. You ain't do nothing, Loon, You're good.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
This was all.

Speaker 4 (32:44):
This was solely on top because he made such a
big stink about not wanting to do anything with me
other than arm Rustle played basketball, and I don't.

Speaker 3 (32:52):
Want to go to the Leon Thomas concert with him. Okay,
if I'm going, i'm gonna go with my lady.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
I'm not going with him.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
You should go for corn Thomas is definitely like.

Speaker 4 (33:01):
Cordner offered the movies. He said, no, I'm not going
to sit there next to you watch a movie. You
know what.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
I of course you do because you go with brother man.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, I feel like you should have healthy relations with
your niggas we do. Concerts without the eat. We go
to the movie and that's all I was talking about.
That's all I eat.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
I've literally a no, no, no, he's how he lost.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Don't do that because you're already trying to paint this
picture and I could kill it in multiple ways. But
I've literally access men. He says, he's a chef right
since we started hanging out last year early last.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
Year, over a year. Now, Yo, you're a chef.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Make me some meat.

Speaker 2 (33:38):
Cook for a nigga like yo, cook.

Speaker 4 (33:40):
That means I actually, yeah, we talked about being intimate.
I actually want you to take the meat that I'm
gonna put in my mouth.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
Season it.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
That means you gotta.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
Squeeze it, you gotta pull all types of all over it.
You got to marinate the motherfucker, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
And then you present it to me and I taste.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
It, So something something about that doesn't quite right. I
think I would decline you.

Speaker 4 (34:09):
To tell me.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
That was a.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
That's a lot of podcast because.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
I didn't get an idea feel what I did.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
You had.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Not that, you know what I mean? So you know
it's funny because I was like, you know what I
was in like some content. Shit, maybe we should get
together some cooking content or some shing like that. You
know what I'm saying, cooking discussions, you know, things like that.
It's cool, but nigga cook.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
For me is like you, I want to see the
mails you make?

Speaker 1 (34:40):
What's wrong? You feel all right? Kind of like you're
trying to beat like, what are you doing? What are
you doing?

Speaker 3 (34:47):
So now y'all understand when we change the context certain ship,
you're saying, it's just not appropriate.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
That's what you're saying. For you, it would be cooking
for me. I don't want to go to a concert with.

Speaker 5 (34:57):
So what would you want to do with your cousin?

Speaker 1 (34:59):
We all said, I.

Speaker 4 (35:04):
Never said now with that show, and you wouldn't say that.
Actually slept in the same room for four nights.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
I didn't realize the trip was that long.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
Yo, it was. It went by so quick though, because
we like, the schedule is so packed. I didn't even
really was there before nights, so we just said it it.

Speaker 2 (35:26):
Was four nights. I couldn't beat off.

Speaker 5 (35:29):
It was four He was in the grouping and hollering
because he could not be off because Lou kept sleeping.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
Every time you go to the room. Here he come,
he come to the room. He wanted to take a nap. Yo,
I go to Yo, I gotta go to the room
for a second. Hold on, here come loon, click yo.

Speaker 2 (35:43):
What you're doing?

Speaker 1 (35:45):
I want to sleep. I want to take it.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
I can't get up.

Speaker 1 (35:49):
Break bro, you ain't got nothing else to do. No,
you're not hungry or something. You don't want to go
walk around. You don't want to do nothing. You gotta shower.
Go beat off for the shower. I did right, So
what do we have the discussion for? You know, I
didn't beat off that whole line.

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I did not beat off. What I was saying anything
along with the two smacks is playing with it. I'm
out of playing with it a couple of times. Why
get it off?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (36:24):
I tried to get it off. I couldn't do it.
I couldn't do it. It's just him being in another
room like yo cee yo.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
You did you yo? You got the bait station? You
h you got you in your own world. I can't
do it right over there we went to.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
When we went to the eight, we had our own rooms.
Who was right next with like.

Speaker 6 (36:47):
Room?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
So you know what?

Speaker 4 (36:48):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (36:49):
It is for me.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
Like, the reason why I probably wouldn't be able to
do it is because after I come, I just this
is like I feel discussing. So now I'm walking out
the room and I'm looking at you, I'm like, oh
my god. They no, I did this, like really okay,
this bad thing that was?

Speaker 2 (37:03):
I think that was something too.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I just couldn't get it off. Yeah, there's no way
you had to see Loom right after. I don't want
to see Loom sleeping though, I'm not even looking at this.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Bet myself. Going to the pool, yeah, I did. I
wanted to go to the pool.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Jerked the pool.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
No, there's a bathroomsmember. It was early in the morning,
was like seven Sunday before. Yeah, I like seven. They
had like a public bathroom, bathroom in the hallway. There's
a huge bathroom, very nice bathroom. You didn't, right, I
went and going in there.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
It's seven. Everybody's sleeping.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
Second morning. It used to be Saday story.

Speaker 5 (37:39):
Everybody was out knocked out.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
You feel me?

Speaker 1 (37:41):
You did?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I go in there?

Speaker 4 (37:43):
I set up you know, they got the bar, like
the towel bar changed the babies on boom right, No,
it's towel bar.

Speaker 1 (37:49):
It's a towel bar.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Right when you put you know, you go to the bathroom,
you put your tower Okay.

Speaker 4 (37:56):
So it's like I took some tissue to mad tissue,
put it in between the wall and the tower bar.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
And I made a little ramp. Put my phone up.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
Right.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
I'm ready to get motion. I had. I had my
little jar stuff with me. I throws it on. I
threw my hair pot in blue. I had one in
one ear.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
God comes in, Yeah, you feel me.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
I'm in there, I started. Don't you hear the door open?

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Motherfucker walks through this big gass bathroom, comes right in
the store next to me.

Speaker 5 (38:33):
Oh, good for you.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I'm standing there with my man in my hand. This nigger,
give it that up man.

Speaker 5 (38:49):
Release.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:50):
I wrapped my man up. I put him down. I said, yo, y'a,
I'm gonna get up out of here. I just went
out to the pool, bro, just unfulfilled.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Do you remember what I had text you when I
went to the bathroom. We was at some I forgot
where were I think it might have been the Big Bang.
I think was watching some ship or the Little Bang,
one of them. Yes, So I gonna hold you the
food in Atlanta for some reason, didn't like it was good.
It wasn't bad, like it was good food, but it
made my stomach feel little funny. So I was faked
shipping the whole week. I left the event several times

(39:21):
ago take a ship. So everybody's in the room enjoying
the show. Yo, this is the perfect time for me
to go take a ship. It's a diversion.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
So I go to the bathroom in the back of
the hotel, not even the one right here. In the back.
I go to the store all the way on the right,
take my pants down. I'm on a toilet. I'm just
macking right, I'm on tiktop. Whatever I hear. These niggas
come in. You feel me, and judging by the voice
they said, you know they get yeah. Cool game. Nigga

(39:52):
in the bathroom give fuck? I kid you not all I.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
These nigga.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
I'm like niggas kissing. I'm like, nah, the stall door
next to me popped up with plat these niggas in
the stall kiss SOMEBODYO. These niggas better not fuck right next,
I'm trying to take a ship. Luckily they didn't. They
did like they did. I think they was doing some
kind of pills or some ship. But Yo, the last
thing I need is for these two niggas to be fucking.

(40:18):
My ship went right back up, like, oh no, yeah,
I had to have to get a body there.

Speaker 6 (40:24):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
It was it was a it was a so.

Speaker 5 (40:28):
Can you explain us what?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Yeah, we went to Sex Down South.

Speaker 1 (40:31):
Sex down South at L shouted it had to be.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
First of all, it's an all black convention, mostly black
black centered, but more centered around women in the queer community. Right,
Eli invited us. Eli's higher up you know in this situation.
Shout out to Tea and Marlin, who are the founders,
And we did an episode that released today right with them.

(41:00):
First of all, it's all you can be naked whenever
you want. They rented out the bottom floor of a hotel,
a big hotel, not like some fucking Western like. Last
year was at the Hilton, this year was at something
Sheridan or some shit, wavy shit. They rent out the
whole bottom floor and they make sure the staff cannot
come down there.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
And this is what I said. I said, Atlanta is
different because this You cannot do this anywhere else. You
cannot do this anywhere else.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
Atlanta's just different people getting flogged.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
But ass content creators got a room. They're creating content. Content.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
I know what you mean by content if you know.

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Literally, we had a meeting about the orgy that was
about to happen and the sh so.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Who's participated in the orgy. The only people didn't put
their handle was me in town. Everybody's like, oh, yeah,
we're in that. I'm just here, like mean anything, And
they had like this is what it was.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
But and then there were several events that I'm assuming
we're going to talk about, but also throughout the day,
say at ten o'clock they had seven eight seminars at
seven o'clock, At ten o'clock and eleven, they had seven
eight more every day for three to four days, they
had different seminars. I'm talking about fisting, I'm talking about

(42:15):
how the mouth hug.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
There was one what's a mouth hug?

Speaker 1 (42:18):
That's the same shit?

Speaker 2 (42:19):
I asked.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
I don't know, but I'm just saying there were so many.
What were some of the ones that I took? Don't
be scared submission for men?

Speaker 6 (42:30):
I like that.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
Another one.

Speaker 3 (42:35):
Erotic prose for sexual liberation, so basically writing yeah right,
I wrote one you did yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I went to that one, stretched my kitty out.

Speaker 5 (42:46):
Oh fisting queens.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
There was so many different ones, right, do y'all want
to hear my? Ya want to hear my? My poem?
So they make you write.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
A sexual sense tense, and then they wanted to they
made you turn it into a paragraph.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
Let me see if it's here.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
Oh god, I only had ten minutes or something like that,
and I didn't really know I could write. Shut up, yo,
don't laugh. It sounds like you laughing already. You're gonna laugh. No,
I want you you're gonna laugh. I might laugh, but
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (43:25):
I'm not gonna laugh.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
To a young lady at the meat rack. She was
tied to a old and asked her if I could
engage with her. She said yes. I asked her what
she liked, and she said she liked to be spanked.
I sent me out again. She said, oh, she said yes.
I slowly stroked her body.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
I breathed on her.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
I asked her if she liked that, she said she did.
Ask her how it made her feel, she said made
her feel good. I asked her if she wanted me
to spank her. She said yes.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
I didn't start immediately though, I began grabbing her legs.
I massaged him.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
I watched the way her body arched towards my hands,
the way it melted under my breaths, on her neck,
on her ear, on her back.

Speaker 6 (44:23):
I asked her if she was ready. She nodded yes,
without pause. I gave her a tap. She shivered. I
stopped letting the moment. She waited for a last for
a few seconds. Then I slapped her other cheek and
I squeezed her and asked her if she liked that.

(44:43):
She said yes. I asked her if she wanted more.
She said yes. I began speaking her harder continuously.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
I used more force.

Speaker 6 (44:53):
As I landed on each cheek and I squeezed her neck.
She liked it. She bent over her, asking me.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
This nigga's voice? Yo? Why yo? What's that was fired out?
That was fired though?

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Now he was over there laughing the whole time because
I can't believe because.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
He had the he had the poet because I.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
Can't believe you put that voice on.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
It's okay, he had a poet voice.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
One you had the arms out. While he was doing that,
he was like this, I can't be volable around here.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
It was allergies roight.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I liked it.

Speaker 5 (45:34):
That was really nice.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
For those of y'all who can't hear it, I'm gonna
post it in the Patreon along with a bunch of
other videos that we have of people participating and all that.

Speaker 5 (45:43):
But yeah, man, so what did y'all learn? Y'all learn
anything new? Any seminars?

Speaker 1 (45:49):
He said, what you ain't going to? No, I don't
really go to no seminars because what one he's lying
the ship started at eight o'clock wasn't even ten. I'm
just started eight. N I'm like, Nigga, that's true. I
ain't waking up to like ten or eleven.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
But they went all the way to see Yeah, but it.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Wasn't really more so what I learned. It was really
more so like what I saw, you know. So I
always say that I've being on this show for like
the last four years, three years, whatever it is, there's
not really too much that I can see now that
would really move me like that, bless you. It's not
really too much I can see that can move me.

(46:26):
So like you're going to sex down south, I'm like,
all right, whoop, what could be here? What can you
show me? That I haven't already seen, Courtney, I'm.

Speaker 2 (46:37):
Not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
There are levels out there of like freaking kink in
just sex that your imagination just cannot fathom. Can I
cannot shut it's cording, I kid, y'all, Yo, everybody thinks
I'm lying. My theme for this weekend is if I
told people what I seen, they wouldn't believe me. That's

(47:00):
really the thing, Like no, like like if I feel
like I would have to lie about it because the
truths wouldn't believing. So we're we We heard about something
called the meat rack.

Speaker 5 (47:09):
The meat rack, Yes, okay, So in my head when
I hear.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Meat rack, I'm gonna tell you exactly how it played
by play re member and Rocky too when he was
in the freezer hitting the hanging meat meat rack you
hang from the fucking ship in the ceiling. Whatever. My head.

Speaker 5 (47:24):
But when I think of meat, I think if I'm
thinking like kink and sex, I'm thinking like there's a
bunch of like meat out like meat, like meat.

Speaker 1 (47:33):
Like Dick's see why you would think that? So I'm like,
how are you gonna make hanging meat sexy?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Like?

Speaker 1 (47:42):
In my head, I'm trying not to judge it. I'm like, listen,
you gotta be open minded. This is ship and people
out of your comfort zone. It's going to it with
the open mind. For one, this ship is like a
secret society, like it was a party that people don't
even know existed.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
You can't go less the family. If you know the family,
that's the only place.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
So this is like the founder's parties. It's almost like
a secret society within the secret society. Got it.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
It's almost like what's the password type ship? And we
were invited me still was presently or who you know?
You feel me when we walk in there and it's
a bunch of like coat racks just like all over
a room about maybe the size of this apartment, and
there's people hanging like they're tied up on this rack

(48:30):
butt ass naked with what you call yes and no cards.
So now these yes and no cards might be the
most important part of the party. It's pretty much letting
all of the patrons know, listen, these are the things
I'm okay. If these are things I'm not okay with,
but pretty much as long as it's within the rights
of whatever it is on the card, you can walk
up to these people and do whatever falls within those bounds.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
What.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
So when Tahoe is in his poem talking about the
meat rack, he talking to a young lady and you know,
introduced himself obviously and examined her card, and he then
started to perform acts with this young lady that within
the parameters of yes or no cards. Crazy, but I've
seen some ship call I'm gonna take the glasses off,

(49:17):
thank god. Yo. I saw a young lady on this rack, right,
she had like clothes pins like on herples, like with
like a wire running from each one. So my head,
I'm like, okay, maybe she just likes, you know, like
the stimulation of like the pain or whatever. And then
in the corner of my eye, I see something like
a mouse on the floor, like a rat. Like, what

(49:39):
the fuck is this ship crawling?

Speaker 2 (49:41):
It's a person?

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Cool? Know what I'm saying is it's a person. Right,
I'm like, oh, ship, what.

Speaker 2 (49:45):
Is she doing?

Speaker 1 (49:46):
And she has this contraption in her hand, It's like
a like a zapper, like some kind of electro ship listen,
So she presses the buttersills and I'm like, what is
she about to do? So just crawling towards this girl
with clothes pins and she sets it off again and
she just moves it up, up and up, and she

(50:08):
zaps this girl and her pussy son. Yo. No, Lie Cording.
I have never seen a person closer to death in
my life like she. It looked like she was so alive,
so like I thought her body took the screenshots.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
I like, she.

Speaker 7 (50:28):
Tied up and I'm like, oh my lord, I'm not
gonna hold you. I have never seen you. I've never
even thought about no ship like that.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
But it was probably one of the waziest things.

Speaker 2 (50:41):
It was.

Speaker 3 (50:42):
It was like the noise it literally said pap. When
you hit it, it goes pap and electricity flies out
of it.

Speaker 1 (50:50):
See the electricity, Yes, like.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
That, and she hit her with it on the clitteris
multiple times p yes, and this girl is.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
We saw all types of stuff, women strapping each other, uh,
several people like one person on each titty and somebody
eating the box. Another person got the vibrator on the area,
and this person is just going through it. All these
people touching all over them. And I'm talking about there
were I think there were half an hour intervals. I

(51:23):
believe it was half an hour intervals that each person
would write. So I think it was like eight maybe
nine people at a time. They switched it four times
throughout the party. I think four times. Yeah, so four
rotations of thy member, but ass going up there doing
it men and women.

Speaker 2 (51:40):
By the way, man it was.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
I saw the scene that you had with Elis, a
young woman on the bed and Eli, I guess, was
fingering her, fingering her and like look at her toes,
and the other guy was like eating like on her. City.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
There was actually a live pointsy that's the life forcing
it a live points.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
I actually have a basketball game. Like we were sitting
in an audience.

Speaker 5 (52:04):
Like yeah, talking to each other like a live studio audience.

Speaker 3 (52:09):
They literally recorded a porn and they showed us how
they record porn. They were talking to us in between breaks,
between set shifts, and you know when they so and
the director is telling us, you know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
So they literally shot a live point in there.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
That's fire and it was an m m F m
oh so male centered.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Male centered. I would think that they switched around sometimes
the lady was centered.

Speaker 4 (52:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
There was one scene in particular that seemed to be
oh god, the most shocking, okay, because there was what
Loon liked to refer to as a fire hydrant dildough
being used on one of the men.

Speaker 5 (52:52):
Oh, it was a big John.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Courtney, big like this big. Oh, I have a video
Jersey Mike's.

Speaker 5 (53:00):
Yes, I gotta see that.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
I'm gonna play it now.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
Yes, I think I'm gonna interrupt what you guys can
see here in the discord. I'm gonna put it in
the discord briefly and then i'm gonna delete it.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Please do not record it. This is not we got
permission to have it. You guys, do not.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
This is com.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
So I'm gonna put it in the new episode discussion.

Speaker 5 (53:24):
Now.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
For the people who are not here watching live in
the zoom, you don't get to see this. You're gonna
have to go on to the loyal fans to see this. Right,
the people who are here watching can go into the
new episode discussion folder right now and watch it. Please
do not screenshot it, right we we we base what
we do here on trust. Let me see if I

(53:44):
can find it. I can't wait till night.

Speaker 4 (53:48):
According to see this scene, this was very injuracy. Where
is the scene that I want to show Courtney?

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Oh God, I'm scared.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
Scared.

Speaker 5 (54:05):
I want to see how big this dick is.

Speaker 1 (54:07):
You should be scared, Like it's bigger than anything in
this room that I could hear you. I can't even
think of what to even show you.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
There's one two they show like a bic app Like,
I don't put it in there for the people to
see this.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
Make sure that they can see it. In the discord
on it has to load.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
Matter of fact, it like my calf muscle. No, lie,
it's like the size of my calf muscle. I kid
you not.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
And son, okay, they're loading. One is up, okay, and
let me wait for the second one to go. I
just I want us all the experiences together. By the way, looms.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Could not Oh my god, watch he has to go
out the room.

Speaker 2 (54:59):
So they're having it E mail female.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I know, Loon, you know, we all have our limits
of how far we can go. You know what I'm
saying with ship, I respect the fact that he tells
me to respect that. Everybody got there, you know whatever.
So I'm filming the ship.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I'm filming.

Speaker 4 (55:16):
I'm like, this is crazy right right. So as I'm filming,
I say, I know is losing his mind, losing the
camera from the scene and I go over the loons.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Keep in mind, I did not know what he was
doing because he was on the other side of the
chairs and stacking chairs.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
I couldn't see him. So I go around the room
and I go to loon. He's looking his phone, right,
So I'm like, he looking. I wanted to see his face.
His niggas watching the basketball game.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Bro, I needed something to decompress for a second.

Speaker 5 (55:50):
I'm leeve it was.

Speaker 2 (55:53):
It was the way I found it. Now where is
it due? Oh god, I lost it again. I'm sorry, y'all.
I have so much going on in here.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
And you said the new you said in the new discord,
but yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I already put it in there.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
But what I want to say to though, is this right?
So you know you want to play part? Is you
say you know things like this happen all the time?
You know you would think like having sex in front
of like people or you know exhibitionist?

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Is you know.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
Cool? She's hugging it? Look a video on a pictures
a video.

Speaker 5 (56:36):
This is a clear eyes video.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Is that ship is a cannon?

Speaker 5 (56:43):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
So he's topping off either, right, I'll tell you.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
This is when I started watching the game.

Speaker 5 (57:00):
No, oh no, we don't need you to come down.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
That's him.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
We both have on mics.

Speaker 1 (57:18):
That's loon.

Speaker 5 (57:19):
Yes, he's a size king.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
No, she's twisting it yo.

Speaker 5 (57:45):
No, and he's still sucking dick. No, what a king?
Oh and it's moving now.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
If you want to see this, make sure you pay
attention to Patreon. We will put the link up to
the loyal fans when I get all of the clips.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
Look, she's giving it up. Now, she's giving it up.

Speaker 5 (58:09):
Now she's speaking in the south. He said, give me more.
I want to see how it was from behind.

Speaker 2 (58:20):
No, no, no, I'm gonna help you.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Oh damn, you like dick big?

Speaker 1 (58:25):
Yo?

Speaker 2 (58:25):
What yo? Here the courtney don't know what to look
at you?

Speaker 5 (58:35):
He likes, I'm looking at the big dick in his ass.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
Hold on. I had the second part of the scene.
It was a lot. I'm explaining to me, I am
not scared, right, what the fun or he was walking around?
I moved around. I wanted you to be able to
see it.

Speaker 5 (58:55):
From I wanted to see it from the bag.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
All right, yeah, keep that shick, let's go. I moved
to the other side of the room. I wanted y'all
to see this. Yo.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Oh his asses gaped the fun open is a dinosaur.
Oh his ship is open, bro, I never.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Seen like this.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
This is the most aggressive ship that.

Speaker 5 (59:25):
His ship is pierced.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
There's a random purple one on the floor, just just
sitting there.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Look at this. It is he is she's she has
used both hands to hold the balls of this thing. Son,
It's insane.

Speaker 5 (59:42):
Is Eli laughing?

Speaker 6 (59:47):
Oh my god?

Speaker 2 (59:52):
Yeah, this was intense. I'm just letting y'all know when
we talk about.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
Like I was trying to say, you would think you
would see things like this at a regular play party,
but you don't really necessarily see.

Speaker 5 (01:00:03):
No, this is like next level.

Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
And on top of that too, It's one thing when
you have like maybe a couple of people in a
room watching you, maybe like some people from a party watching,
But when you have a filled room like an audience
and you're like the main attraction, Like it's almost like
a boxing match, Like there's a whole different kind of
like pressure on you. Like now you're not even just
It's so funny because we were talking to Eli, but
well he was answering questions like you're not even just

(01:00:26):
thinking now about just fucking like you're trying to like
be professional, you're trying to catch the right angles, you're
trying to do all types of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
So yeah, that was that was crazy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:36):
This this a couple of things. One the fire hydrant
and how he was literally taking that into I didn't
know Eli's dick was so big.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Elis you know Eli?

Speaker 5 (01:00:47):
Yeah, but I didn't realize.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
That Eli is known to have one of the biggest
joints in the Navy parties. He'd be wild him, he'd
be winding.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
God blessed that. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:01:00):
So you don't got that far to go. It's long, bro,
not that much.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
This is a t I told you last party he
was wilding somebody up and he stood up for a
minute and I had to close my minds.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
I said, nah, nah.

Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Yo, And that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
I'm not listen. I got what I got. I'm happy
with what I got.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
But God, you're a very disturbed guy. I did what
you ain't telling him what you did? Didn't you what
I do in the airport? Did you tell me?

Speaker 2 (01:01:32):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
So me and time we split up? So I want
this is that's one I want you to understand what
I had to deal with for the week, you gentlemen. Wow,
we split up. I go to my mom's house. I
leave him in the hotels we can masturbate. So our
flight was originally at the clickest. It was originally at
seven fifteen, right pm. So I leave my mom's house

(01:01:54):
at about four thirty. Try to get to the airport
like five five thirty. Chill out, you know. Matt go
through the line on the ship. I'm like, where the
fuck is top he texted me? Or the flight got
delayed till eight o'clock. All right, cool, little biggie. I'm
just gonna chill out here for a little bit. But
in my head, I'm like, you should still be here, Like,
what is taking you so fucking long? Then they reversed

(01:02:15):
out flight from eight o'clock by to seven fifteen.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
I hate when they do that.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
So now in my head, I'm like, Yo, where is
this negro. So he finally comes to me, He's like, yeah, man, Yo,
these motherfuckers can reverse the flight fucking tights and filming,
et cetera, et cetera.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Well, I got there, I stopped to go get some food.
I was gonna go to the restaurant. I seen radio
in the airport with his mentor.

Speaker 5 (01:02:37):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:02:37):
She had given me massage, right, and because my neck
was hurting, had a stiff neck when I got there.
But my phone is dying, and I knew I wanted
to watch this series that I had downloaded on Netflix.

Speaker 4 (01:02:51):
So I'm like, damn, should I eat here with them?
I'm like, nah, I'm just go over to the seats.
You know, they got the charge of my seats.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
Right, And I go and I sit down.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
But when I sit down, I look up and it
says now boarding the laguardiah and the flight number, and
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
This my flight, this is already getting on the plane.
If I would have went to the restaurant.

Speaker 5 (01:03:15):
Yeah, you would have never known.

Speaker 1 (01:03:16):
You missed the most important part. What did you do
to kill Tom?

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Well, we're in that way.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
We got this so early, right, because I sat at
the pool when Lune left and after I got my
little one shot off, I sat by the pool.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
I had done a couple of laps in the pool.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I was very proud of myself for shout out to
Grandma for teaching me how to swim or taking me
to swim class. I was actually swimming like swimming ten
feet waters. I did laps all that. There's nobody in there.

Speaker 5 (01:03:44):
You you didn't know how to swim before.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
Well, my grandma told me when I was a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:03:47):
Oh you said, your grandma teaching me how to swim.

Speaker 2 (01:03:50):
And I really loved swimming.

Speaker 1 (01:03:53):
I love you in the water.

Speaker 3 (01:03:54):
So that mor once I we had to check out.
I went back to the pool. Any long sto short.
I had to go to the airport after five o'clock.
Eli and them they had they laced us. We actually
got some tea shirts. When I got to the airport,
I was still mad early, so I'm like, they're like, oh,
you gotta take this out your bag. You gotta take

(01:04:15):
that out your bag.

Speaker 5 (01:04:16):
Oh like the dildos and the vibrators.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
Let this ship go through. I ain't take it out.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
The top, all know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I left.

Speaker 3 (01:04:26):
I took the laptop out, but I wanted to see
if they actually like flag the ship.

Speaker 5 (01:04:30):
Yea, yeah, but they can't mean it's not they flagged it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
They did, They damn sure I did. My ship went
right to the side of shoot.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
I hate when it happens at the airport. You're like fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:04:41):
I went and sat down far away from the TSA
and just watched.

Speaker 5 (01:04:44):
Them go through the ship. I know that was uncomfortable.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
Na.

Speaker 2 (01:04:48):
Well, when they get your bag, they got to know
whose it is. So she was sitting there like whose
bag is?

Speaker 4 (01:04:52):
I'm just sitting there looking at her videotape because I'm like, Yo,
this is about the fuck up sure ship.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
I go over there. She's like, oh, you know you
got something sharpen there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
I was like, wouldn't quite that. You don't use that
word right? What was in there? Vibrant?

Speaker 3 (01:05:10):
Well, they gave us something. He gave us a grab bag.
Oh stuff in it. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
You got a vibrator?

Speaker 2 (01:05:16):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (01:05:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
I knew it was in there, but I didn't know.
I thought they was going to go for the mics
and like the camera and ship like that. That's the
ship that I thought, Sure ship. Here she goes looking
and she looking, She's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
It's this.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
And before she said that, I was like, Yo, if
you find a dealo in there's mine. She's let you
know because I want to.

Speaker 6 (01:05:36):
Know you.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
She said what she said she was She looked at me.
I want to use it on myself. I mean, not
that there's anything wrong with that, But no, I don't
you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (01:05:54):
Wow, who gets flagged on purpose for dim those content?

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Was here for the content. I'm here for that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
The content Magic going to jail for being horny.

Speaker 5 (01:06:06):
They won't lock him up for having a vibrant.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Flag for fuck Dix in his bag. I don't know
if he's going to be back tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
I to go to court for that.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
I go to court for that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:16):
I just wouldn't like being in the polding pin. But
I won't say for the judgement, like, yo, you dead ass,
which I gonna give me? Give me a bell because
I like, please with my lady. You know what I'm saying.
But in Texas you really can't go for that. In
Texas you really can't go to one thing. I do
want to say though, right sex down South had to be.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
The most spiritually awakening experience for me.

Speaker 5 (01:06:43):
I want to go next year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
It's sexually is one thing, but to see everybody so
proud m hm to represent their kinks. You had people
in there and dog masks, You had people of all sizes,
bigger women like you know, you had trans.

Speaker 1 (01:07:01):
People calling Yesterday.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
Was like oh she was, that's a nice Yesterday right,
he was like, you know what I'm saying. It was
And they did these shows every night. They did these shows,
and they were so of course this fucking what the
fuck did I do?

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
I didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
I didn't do nothing this whole week.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
I didn't nothing. I didn't a big bang. It's a
burd less show.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
They got all these different performers right next to us,
they got these people. All of this is going into
the loyal attention, pay attention. When we released, We're gonna
be releasing a lot of stuff, right, So in the
Patreon Dad shows all this stuff, and you know, they
they didn't mind if you recorded it. They want you
to record it. But so you're sitting in the audience

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and in the middle of the audience, they have a table.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
Massage table type show.

Speaker 3 (01:07:51):
Yeah, and there's like a whole scene going on in
the massage table. I have a picture, I have a
video of this girl nutting off the scene. This person,
this woman top dom whatever. You know, I'm always getting
those two confused. Was manipulating her body for so long
that by the time she focused on her orgasm, this

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girl's whole body.

Speaker 2 (01:08:17):
It was fucked and it was dope to watch. But
even throughout that. They got singing, they got spoken word,
they got they got dancing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
They had figurative dance, you know when they have like
the flags on the pole and they're doing the whole
thing with the flags as they dance.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
It was so moving. Guess what this nigga was doing on.

Speaker 5 (01:08:35):
His phone watching.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Sitting there like this.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
I was catching a vibe. What do you want me
to do? Listen, I'm not listening. This ain't a facade.
I'm gonna I'll be chilling. I'm in the spot. I'm
enjoying my never like you clap Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
Yo, I'm up.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
He's jumping and clean. I'm catching the vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
I'm clapping.

Speaker 5 (01:08:58):
But I would say this to hold you guys are different,
different when it comes to stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
I'm just chilled, yo.

Speaker 3 (01:09:04):
In one of the videos, I showed the whole crowd,
everybody's jumping in and I paying this nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
You never see me do things like that though I
don't do that. I don't do that for nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
I be chilling, but yeah, man, super vibe. I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
We got massages, I got acupuncture. We actually did a
video with the acupuncturists and I believe she's gonna come
on here and do something on the show. Did you
know the things that they could tell the acupuncture can
tell about your body?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
No, the series that we have, the acupuncture series, that
segment is very It was actually kind of really cool.
I was actually my favorite part.

Speaker 5 (01:09:46):
We need to basically have the whole thing for your
your foot or whatever is going to my knee and
my foot, your shoulder.

Speaker 1 (01:09:52):
Well that's what he did it for. You got you
took the out, but you took it out yourself, both
of them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Six and seven ate something like that. She put these
pearl things on my ears that hurt like a motherfucker.
And I was walking around with him. She just for
like two days down there.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
But what are we supposed to do?

Speaker 1 (01:10:11):
So pretty much where I again, I could be one
thousand percent wrong. Y'all discussed it, Yeah, but what I
what I think the purpose of it was. I feel
like she put it in his acupuncture. From what I
was told was like she took she did, she manipulated
his body massagynal a little bit and put the needles in.
But when she put the ship in his ear, it's
almost like all of his pain reactions went straight to

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like the ear to the point now where his shoulder
doesn't even hurt anymore. So when he took it out,
it's like, Okay, my ear is don't hurt, but his
shoulders like good now either it's like all the pain
like she pinpointed it to somewhere else, got it, and
then like when he took it, so, now how does
your shoulder feel now?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I'm fine?

Speaker 1 (01:10:50):
Yeah, So like it was almost the analogy that I
use is like like I remember when I was young,
my mom had beat my ass. My right alm is hurt,
and she's like, oh, you're right hurt. Right arm hurts.
She hit me on the left arm. The left arm
hurts so much I forgot the right arm was even hurt.
So it was like a transfer of pain and it
just kind of forget type ship so tough.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
So yeah, that was dope.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
That is also and Loun filmed the whole ship, so
because we miked her. And so she's talking to me,
she's taking my polls saying, she's looking at my body
and all that, and she's able to tell things about
me and my life through those things. So I'm gonna
release that. I don't want to go too much, and
but we have a documentary. There's more, there's more to this,

(01:11:37):
and I know we're going a little late into the show,
but I definitely want to shout out the founders for
growing this brand so much. I think it's very, super,
incredibly important if you've been to Exotica as a black
person and you haven't given sex down South a look.
You know, I didn't even tell y'all about the other

(01:11:57):
classes that I saw. Oh yeah, I told you about
a bunch of them, but one of them, let me see.
One of them was mad fire hold, were Wolf.

Speaker 5 (01:12:07):
With fatality, were Wolf with fatality, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
I was taking pictures of a lot of the names.

Speaker 3 (01:12:13):
But it's like they really had mad classes all day,
you know what I'm saying. And then all of these parties,
play parties, all types of shit. But the one thing
that I didn't want to talk about, which is a
little bit more serious, is how how did you feel
as a straight man in a convention that was centered

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around women and queer bodies?

Speaker 2 (01:12:42):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
So me and ty we we did. We had. We
had an experience, right. It was probably one of the
low highlights of the trip, and it was almost like
a symbol for like the conversation we were about to have.
So Ty was speaking to a young lady. I'm not
going to say what she was doing is. I don't
want to give any hints or anything about who it was.
But when we were speaking to her, you know, Taho

(01:13:05):
is one thing I can say about two when it
comes to like is freaky as kink as he as
you guys may look at him, he always views himself
like as a student, like he don't really look at
himself as like a lifestyle person, like like, yo, look,
I'm new to this, I got a foot in the water.
I'm sure to learn and you know, try to you know,
expand my knowledge. And the lady that was speaking to him,

(01:13:25):
she was almost speaking to him in a way where
it's like, oh, straight man, like yeah, cooties, like what
are you doing here? Not like that, but her energy
gave off like yeah, she was like, well, why would
I care about Why would I care about men? Like
who likes men? She said something along the lines of
thats like why would why would why would I deal
with a man? Something along the lines of that. And now,
granted we were surrounded by a lot of love, a

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lot of good logic, I want again, I don't even
want this to be the highlight of the truth is
it was, But I can see how, like you know,
we were also from different walks of life. But I
could see how the average straight heterosex walking there and
feel very uncomfortable, very unwanted, and also feel vulnerable, not

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really knowing which direction you should pinpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:14:08):
I wouldn't say that I can see that. I would
say that I wouldn't look at it from that lens.

Speaker 3 (01:14:14):
I would look at it and say that it was
centered around women and queer bodies. Where we're normally walking
in the world, where we feel like we're the center.
Men are the center.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
We have the privilege, and the privilege was switched in
this place.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
So it could make you uncomfortable if you're not accepting
of the place that this is a space that they
curated for themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:14:35):
This ain't about you, you feel me.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
So that's how I looked at it, and I was
trying to be cognizant of that when I engage with people,
because most of these people here, especially women in King,
especially queer people period, have had negative experiences with men
with CIS had men.

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Who will view women that's in kink like you you
a whole or like you know what I'm saying, I
can't believe you do ship like that, like it was immoral.
It's whatever whatever you can see. So, and you and
I are walking around in out Brooklyn wears.

Speaker 1 (01:15:16):
Chains on the whole time. Everybody knew we were from
New York.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
So it's kind of looking like, who, what are the
mentalities behind those glasses or with your gold chains? Yeah, like,
what are the mentalities that I'm about to run into
if I engage with these two?

Speaker 2 (01:15:33):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
And I could think that that's just because of their
normal experience, but we also have our experiences as well,
which is like, Okay, how do we exist here in
a positive way?

Speaker 5 (01:15:50):
In a way that I think that's the best thing
to think about that because, like you said, a lot
of women and queer bodies have had negative experiences with
men and y'all coming into their space. You don't want
to come in there disrespecting They created that space. That's
the space they create for you. You are a guess.

Speaker 2 (01:16:11):
Exactly?

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
Can I challenge that? It's a little bit? I agree,
it's a space that they created, right, And I understand
that we we are in there as foreigners, but we're
foreigners in there. But shouldn't you And granted you know,
I'm not I'm not going to say people haven't had
negative experiences with whatever they had negative experiences with. But

(01:16:34):
in a space like that, shouldn't you be more welcoming?
You know what I'm saying. Shouldn't you be more accepting?
Shouldn't you be more like? You know what? These guys
probably already feel out of place because of where they
come from. Let me not make them feel more out
of place. It isn't that? How this is not a
way that you should maybe look at especially if we're here.
If we're here, we're clearly here for a reason as well.

(01:16:55):
Is that a way I'm not saying you should, But
isn't that how do you? How do you feel about
looking at it from that side of the coin?

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
I just I mean, I feel like, because you're a
guest in their space, they don't need to cater to you.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
Oh I disagree one hundred thousand percent. I ain't gonna lie.
I love that. I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (01:17:13):
I don't think he was a cater to you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:15):
I love that that's your ego.

Speaker 3 (01:17:16):
I don't think your ego says yo like, why aren't
you accepting me when it's like, Yo, we made this
to get away from that, that scutiny. You represent what
we're trying to get away from. This is our free space.

Speaker 5 (01:17:31):
And even if and even if they had like some
misconceptions you guys, because I think you guys are definitely
different than your regular SISCEP men. I do think that,
but they don't know that, and they don't know that,
and it's a life.

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
This is a life.

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
You got to remember what you may have experience today.
They experience every day. Yeah, they grew up like that.

Speaker 4 (01:17:54):
They experienced it in the house, they experienced it walking
to the corner store. They experienced it with people they've
had relations with.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
And secretly didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:18:03):
Want to say what they liked or whatever, and then
judge them or you know what I'm saying, Like you've
ever seen that. I've seen movies where a guy would
have sex with another guy but then say, I'm not
an F word, You're an F word.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
I'm not you feel me.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
So people's reactions and values are all related to their traumas.
Everything that they go through define who they are today
and how they show up. So what you and I
may say Okay, well today we had this experience that
could have been somewhat unnerving. Like we say, like, think
about the privilege that we're talking about, right, we're talking

(01:18:36):
about privilege because.

Speaker 2 (01:18:37):
You said most of the people were welcoming, but this
one person.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Like, why would the words you say? We don't know
what that good lady been through.

Speaker 5 (01:18:45):
We don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:18:46):
Yeah, we don't know what the fuck?

Speaker 5 (01:18:48):
So me, it doesn't have nothing to do with you
as well, it's what's It's not what it has to
do with you. It's more like what she's experienced and
what she's gone through. Like I said, I don't think
that they needed to cater you guys exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:19:01):
I disagree with that. Your mother, your father, your grandparents,
you've never had a guest coming to your home and
they say, oh, we don't need to cater to them.
I think that's total BS. Well, first thing is first,
if you ever have a guest in your space, you
make them feel welcome. That's just I feel like we're
going we're kind of not being honest. That's your perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:19:19):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
Let me, let me, let me finish this, let me
finish this. I will also say even when it comes
to let's say, our events, we've had some people in
there who don't necessarily look like the everyday not navy patron.
You know, do we necessarily treat them any differents like, oh,
you know what, we've seen it coming there with Tim's
and a fucking black leather trench.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
Plot.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
No, I hear what you're saying, because the.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Plot is let me let me interject real quick.

Speaker 3 (01:19:46):
Because of that, because of that scenario that you just said, right,
the plot is, you represent somebody that did something to them.
If somebody walks in and they just don't look like
somebody that you that you've seen before or whatever, they
don't represent anybody that did something to you and that
they've they defined this person as the.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Boogie monster that has that affected me. And I came
here to get away from the boogie monster. You and
I don't have that experience and this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:17):
I gree what you're saying. But also having such a
blanket thought of expression.

Speaker 2 (01:20:22):
One person or maybe two.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Thousand people, I'm saying, how they view us. You know,
just because we look a certain way, we carry something
a certain way, do we necessarily want to justify that
blanket thought of expression?

Speaker 5 (01:20:33):
I don't really think that's human nature.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
Yeah, but it doesn't mean that's right.

Speaker 5 (01:20:36):
It's human nature.

Speaker 1 (01:20:38):
I don't think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
I never said it was right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
I don't think it's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:20:41):
I think it's human nature. Is it right?

Speaker 4 (01:20:42):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:20:43):
But like again, I just feel like, I mean, it
was one person, right, one, it was one.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
It was just one.

Speaker 3 (01:20:50):
Yeah, yeah about it, let's go, let's go into the root.
And again, yes, you ain't saying much. You just back
there switching, but not like switching.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Fucking right, fucking why did they need it?

Speaker 3 (01:21:05):
Why did they feel the need to create a space
centered around women and quick bodies.

Speaker 1 (01:21:12):
Because that's not because that's not necessarily in the world.
That's not really a common space. Queer people or women
for the most part don't necessarily have a safe space
wherever they go. And I understand that, which is why
I feel that space is necessary.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
What's unsafe about wherever they go?

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
I mean, listen, bro, like you said, you, as a woman,
you just in grand You're in like a grand scheme
of danger for the most part. When you're really outside,
literally you can fuck, you can be stalked, beat kidnapped,
sexually assaulted, verbally assaulted nigga niggas men, you feel me
and yes, and in reference for for queer people, granted

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they might not all face the same channe that a
woman has, but again, you have people who are homophobic,
people who are maybe bullies and oh Trench don't really
understand what it is to be a transgender.

Speaker 3 (01:22:01):
People that subscribe to page misagynes with their thoughts and
that don't even have to be homophoby.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
So they don't necessarily have a SAT which is why
I feel like their space was definitely something that was necessary.
But what I'm saying is if you want, if you
want change you feel I feel like the grand scheme.
I feel like at the end stage we are all one.
We should all be unified, We should all be loving
towards each other no matter where we come from. If
that is the end goal and the common goal, Saying

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things like I don't have to cater to you or
I don't really care if you're company or not doesn't
necessarily help us get there.

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
That's what I agree. I agree. No, I definitely agree
with that. I think that's very true. But I can
see where the defense comes from on their side. I
can see both sides I really can.

Speaker 1 (01:22:44):
But both sides point.

Speaker 5 (01:22:47):
Yeah, you both got points. No, it's no right or
wrong here, It's just I just have one more thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
I want to add, then I'll give it to you.
Let's be honest. I've heard people speak on lifestyle events.
I'm gonna speak for for the men, right. I've heard
people speak about lifestyle events and things like that, and
they'll say things like, yeah, it don't necessarily really be
that much good looking chicks in there, you know, Like

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they would say, like, it's not that many good looking
people and lifestyle events and parties. That's that's just a
thing that's said often. So I'm not gonna lie to you.
I tried to go with an open mind, but I
went down there and saying, damn, I ain't gonna see
no bad joints. Yo. I saw some women down there
where I'm like, Yo, why do you look so fucking good?

(01:23:34):
Like I'm talking about like tens, Like I'm talking about
tens out here, like if I was in the club, like, yo,
who's that? You know what I'm saying? Like some of
these performers were fucking gorgeous. Some of these artists, these
fuck yo, we seen am I lionsile we have seen.
I've seen some of the baddest chicks I've seen all
summer down the I'm gonna keep it a hunting. I'm

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also keep it a hundred with you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:00):
Keeping a hunted.

Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
We saw, No, I can't talk so I was.

Speaker 1 (01:24:05):
About the transformation thing. I'm not gonna just hyped it up. No,
I can't. I hate when I do that. I was
getting I was getting excited. I was getting excited.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
I want to go back to it. I don't know
why you switched the topic. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
I have to get that off.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
What you could have did that after we finished, I
was horny. So what I'm at without the point I
want to make is right. For one, I feel alive
at the Sex down South convention. Regardless of those feelings,
I felt extremely connected to.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
The experience.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
On the spiritual level, like seriously, like.

Speaker 3 (01:24:39):
It just made me feel like because I feel like
Loon and I maybe yesterday, I'm not sure definitely me
and I'm not sure if Loon will identify with this
right with the stuff that we talk about on here,
I faced a lot of judgment from straight men, a lot,
I'm sure I face I face a lot of judgment

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from straight women. Really yeah, yeah, if you too close
to trans or to gay people, they say oh hmhmm,
like they it happens, and they say it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
If you look into comments, it's there.

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
I just don't.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
I just I just scroll because I know you can't
cure yeah, that type of thought process by responding to
a comment. And I ain't really that bothered, Like I
live in my I am who I am, and I'm
like that, so all that you know what I'm saying.
People that be saying face like you're saying comments like right,

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So it is what it is.

Speaker 4 (01:25:37):
But I do notice that in the world people look
at me, and even at work or people that I
know from streets or whatever it may be, they think
they actually a lot of them, actually school, a lot
of them will shy away from you.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
And that's just the path I chose to walk, because
I chose to represent this this community. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
But at the same time with the women and the
queer community, you're also looked at like you understand what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:26:08):
You know, it's almost like a passing light skinned girl.
So you're in the there you go it shamed by blacks.
Not acceptable like a biracial.

Speaker 3 (01:26:17):
Biracial you're literally in the middle. And thank God for
the Nut Navy that they've surrounded.

Speaker 1 (01:26:23):
Us and supported the credibility you.

Speaker 3 (01:26:25):
Feel me because now we've got it's not even credibility,
it's community. You have a tribe, right that that builds
you up, that pours life into you, you know what
I'm saying, and we exchange that life. You're safe here
to hold. You're safe here, and we appreciate you. Look,
you know what I'm saying with his Courtney yesterday. But
it's an interesting thing to have to exist like that

(01:26:47):
where nobody actually accepts you fully, you know what I'm saying,
because of your truth and also because of who you represent.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
That's a straight man. But the question is, I know
you have something you want to say.

Speaker 6 (01:26:57):
You know, I was.

Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
I was saying that's because that's that's why I can.
Munity is so important because when you create a community
that accepts you fully, that's when you can be your
best self. Right, So you're outside norms and then you're
outside what's not norm You're in this weird middle and
you have to create a community that is going to
accept you fully. Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
You want to say something.

Speaker 1 (01:27:21):
Yeah, I was gonna change the topic again, relaxed, I'm
not a horny and reference to what you said. So
you see how you said you deal with scrutiny on
a day to day basis, right, And I feel like
how you got to look at it, well, how most
people have to look at it? How old is you?
Show shows about five years old? Right, four four? So

(01:27:41):
for forty six years, all you've kind of been was
just a nigga, no disrespect. I'm saying, like you know,
like from Bedstyde, you know streets black, Yeah, niggas Because
I'm being honest, because a black man and a niggas different.
Like I'm talking about reference, like ignorance. How you looked
at even you say how I used to look at things?

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
If you not forty six years? But fine, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
But what I want to say is though you've kind
of only walked in a community that supported that verge
to you from majority of your life. So I mean,
even though like you can identify with you know, queer
spaces or whatever the case may be, you're still primarily
surrounded by that. You know, it's kind of hard for
you to just unlearn I don't know if you can

(01:28:29):
even really formally remove that kind of environment, But what
I will say is in that kind environment, you will
deal with women and men that are homophobic, that are
very passive, aggressive judge, and all those kind of things.
But I'm just what I'm saying is is going to
come with the territory. But the further you go in
your journey, the less you'll probably even notice it. Like
that you're real early in your journey.

Speaker 4 (01:28:50):
So it's definitely like when you said something that once
you get further in it, it's like the ship just
doesn't even it doesn't even matter anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:28:57):
But I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:28:58):
So there's a reason why it matters to me. And
the reason why it matters to me is the question
that I was going to ask. Okay, how as a
straight man do I support women and the queer community
while identifying still as myself? And that It's like, I
know I've been doing it, but I want to do

(01:29:19):
it on a grandy scale. I want to push the
thing right. I want to push this sex downside. I
definitely want to push sex positivity. But how do straight
men support women and the queer community?

Speaker 5 (01:29:32):
I can only speak for women. I can't really speak
for the quer community. I'll be wrong if I speak
for the queer community. But I know for women, I
think what you're doing already Tahoe Is is good. Like
you are enforcing consent, You are enforcing women to have voices.
You are enforcing I mean even by me being on

(01:29:54):
the show, like you guys said, y'all need a women's voice. Okay, yeah,
I'm here now. And then it's like, I think most
of our community is made up of women, and I
think that's beautiful. And I think if you keep growing
that community, I think that's how you get it into
a grander scale and then also connected to some of
these events that you're talking about, like uh down South,

(01:30:18):
Sex down South and other stuff that promotes women and
queer stuff. Without you don't have to lose yourself. You're
still you regardless. I feel like how you are still
you no matter what room you walk into.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
You are still you, absolutely very much true.

Speaker 5 (01:30:32):
So you don't got to do anything but to grow
your community.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
It's not me, I'm speaking about the others.

Speaker 4 (01:30:42):
Yesterday, so for me, so for me as somebody that
has did this right, So like y'all know, like when
I went to school. It's something I took on that
school and not just doing it at school, but actually
being involved with the events. Right, So, how you guys
are having experience of having to face like the backlash
from gods, you know, because like sets, how when you
stand too close to something, people automatically deem it, you

(01:31:03):
know what I'm saying, when they don't understand it as
something negative. But for you, you're just supporting. You know
what I'm saying. You're just supporting, You're just being actual
good person. And you know what I'm saying, no matter
what somebody is doing or into, you're gonna support them
no matter what. And for some people, they don't, they
can't see that, right. So for me, I would say
how I was able to do it. I just started
going into the spaces, right, So, once I started having

(01:31:25):
my relationships with the people from class and the events,
I would go support them, right, I would go to
their events, I would go pull up on you know
what I'm saying, I would go treat them how I
treat anybody else. Right, So they doing something over here,
I'm gonna pull up And to me, that was how
I how I got comfortable with you know what I'm
saying being around because once I took that mindset off

(01:31:46):
of it and I just started treating it like regular,
then it was like, you know, so for me what
people said or like even me, Like I said, I
was the first black men in my school to graduate
with that major. I was always in class with twenty
five thirty women and people who with queer body that
you would call them right, So that's all I was
around for a lot of times. So you know, being

(01:32:08):
around that, having class with those people, having relationships, people
see you talking to them, people act weird, and I
think for me, it's not weird because I've kind of
always like you, I've just always stood in it. And
it's been so long over the years now it's like
people who know me just know that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:32:23):
I support, I stand up. I don't allow certain conversation.
I don't allow certain words. If you're my friend in
my life, you have to kind of be on you know,
you have to kind of be accepting or understanding the
certain things because I don't harbor that type of energy
around me. So I think it starts with you and
how you move and your real life, not just stuff
that you're doing, but your real life, your day to day,

(01:32:46):
your friends, your family, how do you conduct yourself? What
messages you're pushing. So that's how I would say that
you could have it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
A way before you go alone? Yes, yes, yesterday. Trigger
is something to me I think as men, you just
need to be comfortable who you are first, first, and foremost.
If you're not comfortable in who you are, what you
stand for and like, then nothing can shake you remove you.
You could be friends with anybody. Nothing's gonna shake your
movie because you don't care about what other people are thinking.

(01:33:14):
You're you're being friends or you're you're supporting something because
that person is a good person. And if you're not,
if you're not comfortable in your own skin, if you're
worried about we set it on the show, if you're
worried about what other people are going to think or
how you move, you already lost the battle right there. Sorry,
lit So you was gonna say something, they don.

Speaker 1 (01:33:36):
Lost my tra of thought.

Speaker 3 (01:33:38):
I definitely think that, And I think Loune said this
to me this weekend. We're talking about a different situation.
I believe it was Louona.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Said that he was like, sometimes you gotta put yourself
in the other person's shoes. And I think that's how
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:33:52):
Able to deal with that situation with the one that
we're talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
With empathy. You feel me.

Speaker 4 (01:34:00):
It was a little department in the moment because it's
like damn heart to support and it was evident to
both of us the energy that was given.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
Right, but it is what it is. We don't know what.

Speaker 5 (01:34:10):
Surety has been through, and that's a lot of projection
there too.

Speaker 3 (01:34:15):
And what I was saying alone is the privilege is
that when you say, all right, there's a thousand people
that support you, nine hundred and ninety nine people out
of this thousands support you and one doesn't. You get triggered,
but you put yourself in them shoes and their shoes.
Their experiences are that there's one person that supports you

(01:34:37):
in nine hundred and ninety nine that hasn't Yep, yeah,
you feel me, and would think that their guard should
be up around you know what I'm saying, because they're
always fighting this particular architect, the type of person.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
For their reason that just for their ability to just
be it exists.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
And actually your point to how like I said, being
in that situation and actually having to spend the time
around the people to your very point when you when
you get close enough with the people and you get
to hear their stories.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
Nine point five out of the time.

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
And I'm being real, like as a like a metric
like at least ninety percent of the time, like you said,
how that person's projection is coming from a real place, right,
and you may look or represent something that that person is,
like you said, as the boogeyman. You get what I'm saying. So,
and that's a real thing, you know what I'm saying.
It's a very important thing. And I think sometimes we

(01:35:36):
don't see that, you know, as being the men sometimes
because you know, we're just looking like you said, you
have We don't have to We never have to live
that way. But for them, not only is the boogeyman,
but just sometimes what they think and how they feel
puts them under the threat of violence. We could think
and feel a bunch of shit, and we're never under
the threat of violence, you see what I'm saying. So
for them, their their mindset is completely different. Because when

(01:35:58):
you have to think about physical violence on a day
to day you know, that's that's a different that's a
different type of person. You know, I'm saying, you're a
different mindset moving around. When you got to think about
physical violence can happen at any moment from anybody, you
know what I'm saying. However, I think this person might
look it might can happen, and that's just a different
life for people to live.

Speaker 1 (01:36:19):
What I will say, I just remember my thought now.
It's because I have a couple of answers. The first
answer is kind of like to piggyback off of what
like yesterday said. And it's kind of like I don't
to a certain extent when it comes to the people
that are in my life, I don't necessarily see like.

Speaker 2 (01:36:38):
Gay or queer.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
I look at you as like an individual, you know
what I'm saying. Like one of my really really if
I was getting married tomorrow, one of my best men,
he's a gay. He's an openly gay guy.

Speaker 5 (01:36:48):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:36:48):
I speak to him all the time, give him gay
advice with Joe. You know, it's just regular ship. You know,
it's just you know what I'm saying, Okay, you know
what I would say is to man like as also too,

(01:37:09):
like I feel like we sometimes jumped the gun with yo,
how do I support I want to do this, I
want to do that. I mean, sometimes it's better just ask,
you know what I mean. Like, imagine you're dating somebody,
somebody says, hey, you know, imagine they don't really know
your love languages and they're doing the wrong things in
your mind, like, you know, if you just like ask,
you know, like or maybe just you know, did a
little bit of homework, this problem could be solved. You know,

(01:37:31):
I haven't necessarily tapped into the queer community, but I
know in reference of like what I would want to
do for women, I'm doing my food drive for Thanksgiving,
and I'm doing you know, my give back with like
you know, sanitary packages and things like that. Something. You know,
it's a baby step, you know what I mean, Just honestly,
just go out there and just do the work. It's
really that simple. The same way you would want to
be treated if you were in a situation where you

(01:37:51):
didn't feel safe, where you didn't necessarily we were less fortunate,
or if you you know, you were at a disadvantage.
It's the same way you should treat people. Hey, Cortney,
you know what can I do to help you? You know,
you know, Oh fuck it is. You want to deal though?
I don't know, but you know, just little things like that.
What you see what I was going? You see what
I'm going.

Speaker 5 (01:38:10):
Okay, you know how how can I support you? Yeah?
Give me a dial dough you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:38:15):
That's really what you said though, you know she's got
you actually just said that because she out your mouth
in the middle of a serious conversation, like, you know what,
let me just give you a deal though, Like that
was your that was your answer.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
We're going to jail. We're gonna go to jail. We're
gonna fight this ship.

Speaker 5 (01:38:36):
Speaking of speaking of people every day, speaking of Bill Dos.
My Amazon storefront is now open.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
You did that? Yeah, what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:38:47):
I didn't know what that was.

Speaker 5 (01:38:48):
Yeah, that's the Amazon storefront. What I was talking about
in the last clip of all the things that my
treasure chest. Something right in my treasure chest there is
which my damon storefront where all the things that I've
been talking about is on the Amazon store front. So
go check it out, purchase. That's the stuff I use.
That's what's in there. There's gonna be more added. As

(01:39:09):
the more I experienced things, the more I'll put it
on the Amazon storefront, so you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:39:13):
Cane, so you know what she's talking about is last
week we were talking about what's in her kinky treasure chest, right,
and she spoke about the masks, and I think she
has two masks there. She had the bunny mask in there,
she has the mask with the whole mouth she had.
She had a couple of butt.

Speaker 2 (01:39:29):
Plugs in there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:30):
So she's the things that she has in her arsenal,
she's putting in her personal Amazon storefront where you can
just go click and it's all listed right there. Please
go and support Courtney and what she's trying to do.
You know, I would challenge all y'all to do the
ship like. That's a brilliant idea, actually very brilliant.

Speaker 2 (01:39:47):
I fucking did. I'm very proud of you for doing that.

Speaker 5 (01:39:49):
You got to jump on the opportunity when it comes right,
they say, Amazon store front said give me two hours.

Speaker 3 (01:39:56):
She We've also have Courtney doing our audiobook, her audio
y her and yesterday yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:40:05):
She's gotten a couple of them done.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
I did.

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
And I have to get a new plug because I
have a new phone, which you have to talk about
what happened on my cruise and why I have a
brand new phone.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Okay, but I got to be an our Patreon episode. Yeah,
we're gonna do hopefully. We've been talking for a minute.
Yeah you all ready to start the show? You had something?

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
You're holding your phone up. You're good?

Speaker 6 (01:40:26):
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:40:26):
That was an intense little segment.

Speaker 5 (01:40:28):
Was we haven't gone this deep in a long time?

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
Its deep last week?

Speaker 5 (01:40:35):
Oh yeah, I was, I was. I wasn't here.

Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
It's great, Okay, not that you wasn't here, but the.

Speaker 1 (01:40:40):
Fact that she wasn't here. I'm dad. It was a
bunch of guys talking on some deep ship. It felt
it was.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
It was, but you know, holding back because I'm here.
Y'all shouldn't be holding back.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
No, I wouldn't say.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
I think we changed the way we did it today.
We didn't play as many clips. We talked about real ship.
We got into it more like a conversation. In any case,
how y'all doing? Welcome to the Heart show. The show
we talk about things people like.

Speaker 4 (01:41:06):
In the bedroom and people pull it through right down.
Change it's think up in the back when you was
looking at the camera and like the way that was looking.
I'm saying, just pull it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:17):
A little bit, yo. You notice Nigga comes in here
every day before the show your film.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
You're a character for recording me to Courtney does though
they're put the camera back on me, please, they're both.

Speaker 4 (01:41:33):
My phone died so I didn't get a chance to
save the video, but he has the video of me
taking it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:42):
It's crazy when you said you didn't have it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
I was so amused with my don't worry, I got it.

Speaker 5 (01:41:50):
Don't worry.

Speaker 2 (01:41:51):
I got it though, and I'll send you the footage.
I saved it so that without my caption, so that
you can still use it. In love with himself, it's
not even he's in love with him the same way.

Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Welcome to the Hardest Soft Show, the show where we
talk about things people like in the bedroom and things
people don't like in the bedroom, the things that make
us hard and the things that make us soft. It's
been a while since we've had these intro I'm not
even sure we did one last week. I don't recall,
but I'm here with my mom Freer devon there the

(01:42:28):
sneaking with these fucking glasses on everywhere we fucking go.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Why do you complain about the same thing.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
It's so like, yo, do people ask you take them off?

Speaker 5 (01:42:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:42:39):
Take him off?

Speaker 1 (01:42:40):
The people were interviewing, let me, no, you're taking them off? No,
fuck that. Listen, that's my thing, man, ship, I might
start a glasses of lining. Fucking this is what I do.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
Chocolate.

Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Also, you are a funny guy. Yo. What I'm telling
you two was like Chris Brown in Atlanta. Oh my goodness,
was full of fact. Were walking by all these girls
just looking like this. How is the new Chris Brown?

Speaker 5 (01:43:17):
Not being at commodity? You know, you know him, He
was being a hot commodity. You know what I'm not.
I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised.

Speaker 3 (01:43:34):
We're putting a lot of work on this brand and
we acknowledged people know us. And it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
You're trying to you're trying.

Speaker 5 (01:43:42):
Toot, you're trying to humble about it. Okay, talk your ship.

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
A beautiful thing.

Speaker 6 (01:43:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:43:48):
I'm very proud to be here, you know what I'm saying.
With elegance, relaxed.

Speaker 1 (01:43:56):
Beyond that's something you know. Be in the back chilling
while you mad at the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
Hata tongue.

Speaker 5 (01:44:04):
Did you get that clip when he did it?

Speaker 2 (01:44:06):
No, I got it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:07):
Yeah, I forgot damn damn it, damn damn it. Man
uh poom poom shots.

Speaker 4 (01:44:16):
You know what I'm saying, Joseph, Joseph Courtney, Wow, Wow,
how you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Chilling? Finally woke up from Atlanta. I feel like I've
been sleep since then.

Speaker 2 (01:44:27):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (01:44:27):
I feel sleepers, Yo, I feel great. I feel amazing.
You know, I felt really good coming on first time.
I feel like I got some sleep with out on
a long clock hit a little different, you know, like
when you go to sleep, I feel like your body know,
we got like a couple of minutes on the wake
up when you know, nigga, That's why I didn't make
none of them morning summer Listen, I get I'm going
to seven old day, bro. Yeah, but bro, by the

(01:44:48):
time I woke up into eleven, they're going to break
at twelve. Then the party start. You know, you know,
you know how to day's will. But I feel good.
I feel good, I feel amazing. Party started three, going
to lunch for hours and you feel me whatever, But
I feel very well, feel good. I feel like my
batteries charged.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
What say your host?

Speaker 1 (01:45:13):
Which one am I doing first that for you they
might need. There we go people, Uh to my right,
the man behind the camp. We got triple s. A
K yesterday a K, side quest, Yes, side quest, a

(01:45:34):
K my neck in my back a K. Derek Rose,
Grant Hill, Greg Olden, all the fallen Soldiers a K.
Slim Jones a K, the whole hater, the innovator. A No,
we're not doing that. We're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:45:51):
No, no, no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
We're not doing he changes that.

Speaker 4 (01:45:55):
No, no, no, I was never my stance. We're not
going to do that. Clean it up, please.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
Maybe after the A up up Uptown's very own Slim
Jones Jones, Slim Reaper, Ezy money Sniper, to something, to
do something, do something, to see something, for.

Speaker 4 (01:46:15):
Something, to pour something. I like for something to pour something.
Oh that's why you watch something else. What's a good
game with how you're feeling feeling good? That's the Icy
Hot Ambassador himself, Young Tiger bombomb.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
You're too old for Tiger. I was using that ship
in your cadet because I was severely stretch. Yes, that's
some ship you use when you battered.

Speaker 2 (01:46:40):
Bro got three jars that we have seen Courtney around
in a minute. Good you haven't good? You like golden
and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:46:50):
Yeah, he looked like a beef battery right, look like
look like the Coco.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
Bread that want to introduced court.

Speaker 1 (01:47:00):
So to my left. Jesus, it's been so long living
my life. We have Courtney. A k A big shop.
If you're nasty, A k A. What happens on the
cruise stays on the cruise. A k A high high team.
Who I need another phone?

Speaker 3 (01:47:22):
A k.

Speaker 1 (01:47:26):
A ka five hundred thousand old ones if you know
you know A k A. I got my pussy back,
a k A. I'm in here with the Guyanese tam
gorny looking like somebody straight coolly onto. It looked like
you smell like curry shrimp. You just got a lot
going on.

Speaker 4 (01:47:46):
Guy in these gold got that special color it looks
like and it looked like a Cuban link, looking like
it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Sunny D.

Speaker 5 (01:48:00):
I'm doing great.

Speaker 1 (01:48:02):
I you know I don't play well. He said, you
got to sea cups. Don't don't play with you're.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
Talking about the breast. I was talking about her.

Speaker 5 (01:48:08):
I said, sunny D, sunny but Sonny see my name.
Sorry anyway, I've been doing good, like I have a
nice tan. I'm hoping that this hand stays on because
I am going to Barbados in October.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
So I think I'm going on October to Why do
you say that?

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
Really?

Speaker 5 (01:48:23):
Yeah, So I'm gonna try to keep my tan a
tan going off to the end of the y because
I like this color.

Speaker 2 (01:48:28):
How do you do that?

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Go on vacation, on vacation, Okay, next month.

Speaker 5 (01:48:34):
Next month, I'll be in the sun again.

Speaker 1 (01:48:36):
So I think I'm going.

Speaker 3 (01:48:37):
Out there and the next month too. We do have
a Patreon episode. Do you want to just do it afterwards?
You want to just finish this off?

Speaker 5 (01:48:45):
Yeah, finish yourself and then we can go into it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:50):
I really talk about lower boosts for a second. I
had to actually calm down on the low boosts. I
was coming so much bro. I laid in the bedroom
day and jerked off like five times, like on my
day off, like it was yo, and it was still there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:12):
It was like.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
There was still bro.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
I was walking through the street like, say, if I
was all right, let me not say that. Let's just
say that it was.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
It's a powerful feeling to be super loaded, to be
super loaded, and it wasn't none of that drip.

Speaker 2 (01:49:30):
It wasn't none of that was yellow like you know
at the fifth one, and it was like might spill
some milk.

Speaker 1 (01:49:40):
Mopped up?

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
You feel me?

Speaker 3 (01:49:43):
Locals for those And I know a lot of people
in the Navy have gotten their bottles, so shout out
to them. But it really is in addition to your
bedroom experience in a way, not only that your seamen taste,
but also your volume and how much did you want
to have sex? And that also works for the ladies.

(01:50:04):
I remember Courtney was telling us that she was using
the soaka wet, but then she had stopped because she.

Speaker 2 (01:50:09):
Wasn't getting none.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
Why am I slipping and slide? And no, it's slipping
and slider.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Why you're putting gas in a car you're not driving right?

Speaker 3 (01:50:18):
Soaking wet has the same exact effect for the ladies
and the fact that they just get wet more than
more horny.

Speaker 2 (01:50:25):
And then these are.

Speaker 3 (01:50:27):
All made from natural products, natural products, natural.

Speaker 2 (01:50:31):
Ingredients that are in these. You get one hundred and
twenty pills.

Speaker 3 (01:50:34):
That's thirty days that you can use this, and I'm
telling you right now you don't need it all to
the thirty days for it to feel it right, you
know what I'm saying. You get about a week and
a half in and you're like, oh, hold on, what's
going on? You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 (01:50:46):
What?

Speaker 3 (01:50:46):
Yeah, So shout out to low Boosts and the people
over there at VB Health that make this and also
make dry Boost, which is something that both the ladies
and the men can take.

Speaker 2 (01:50:58):
Courtney, that all about was up in the air.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
You know what I'm saying, And that gives you, like
you said what it says, drive to actually make y'all
want to go again and again and again.

Speaker 2 (01:51:10):
So shout out to the maker's a low boost.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
If you want to partake in your low boost, go
over to load boost dot com and we have a
discount code, yes hard or soft, you get ten percent
off any of the products. You know what I'm saying,
So go on over the low Boosts, check it out
and get your ship right.

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Yep, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 (01:51:33):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
What made your heart this week?

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Why did you like that?

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Like that?

Speaker 5 (01:51:44):
A couple of things hard this week? Actually, Well one
finding out a man like Zazzy and that was that
was definitely a hard to getting pressed up against my window.
That was another hard three added someone to the roster.

Speaker 2 (01:52:05):
So another body roster.

Speaker 5 (01:52:08):
Now I haven't this is very new, very new, like today.

Speaker 4 (01:52:11):
New, collecting the Infinity the Stones.

Speaker 2 (01:52:15):
Fine with myself, y'all, don't mind playing with other people.

Speaker 5 (01:52:23):
Don't clip this, don't clip this, don't all right?

Speaker 2 (01:52:28):
So let me just lead up for Patreon.

Speaker 5 (01:52:31):
Yeah, let's say for Patreon, loom.

Speaker 1 (01:52:34):
What you got, yo, to be honest with you, it's
most of what didn't get my thick card listen, sex
down South still got the lingering effects of me. I
still was just thinking about all the beautiful people that
I've seen, the beautiful women that I encountered. And I
don't just mean like you know, romantically, just you know,
beautiful people that have good vibes, good energy and good conversation,

(01:52:55):
you know, like it was definitely connected with some people
that I probably would have never I never thought I
probably would have connected with just overall experience. It's not
really like some horny ship. But I'm just still like
on a high from like Atlanta, to be honest with you, fire,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:53:10):
Yeah, yesterday, So I've recently found out that so obviously
I know about toys, but I found out that there
was this toy that.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
Can be used remotely.

Speaker 5 (01:53:23):
Oh I have that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53:25):
So somebody had sent me a link one day.

Speaker 5 (01:53:28):
Was it a we vibe? No, that's that's when I had.

Speaker 4 (01:53:34):
Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, that was fine. That
was hard, like I had, like I never did that before,
but I was like, yo.

Speaker 5 (01:53:43):
I'm literally like controlling it.

Speaker 4 (01:53:45):
Yeah, like I'm watching YouTube controlling like that was. It
was on the PlayStation. Yeah, that was definitely one for show.
This is going to be a little awkward.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
For me. It was probably Eli. They got my Dickhart
this week.

Speaker 5 (01:54:04):
I can see why and not and not like physically
but like metaphorically watching him.

Speaker 2 (01:54:11):
And first of all, Eli hit me up.

Speaker 3 (01:54:16):
Maybe a year ago, going through his you know, being
a naked trumpeter and trying to figure out how to
deal with the attention that he was getting.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
The negative attention.

Speaker 5 (01:54:30):
Yeah, well he went on, Okay, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:54:32):
What I'm saying, and you know he was he was.

Speaker 3 (01:54:42):
Disheartened, extremely disheartened, and just trying to figure out his
way to watch him blossom into what he's become today
and what he represents to that community today. That shit
filled me with renewed.

Speaker 2 (01:54:58):
Purpose pride, super pride, like yo.

Speaker 3 (01:55:03):
I was just looking at him, like yo, yo, when
you see somebody that beating down and they overcome that
ship and.

Speaker 2 (01:55:12):
Then rise to the occasion, shun and better, and like.

Speaker 4 (01:55:17):
He closed out the big show, and when he closed
it out, he brought out multiple performances while he's doing
his thing, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
I don't think he cried, but I could feel his pain.
I can feel his freedom like that ship. You feel me, son.
It was so affirming.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
And when I say pride, I was so proud of
him and for him to see that he, you know,
was able to weather that storm. And I was able
to take a little bit away from that for myself
going through things and be able to, you know, just
be proud of yourself. And Yo, that shit really ain't

(01:55:58):
got me wet a little bit.

Speaker 1 (01:56:01):
That was That was wild.

Speaker 2 (01:56:03):
Wow, bro, I don't know, because I don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:56:06):
You don't actually get wet.

Speaker 5 (01:56:07):
No, No, I mean you could, you could get a
little wet.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Listen, So shout out to Elia Naked Trumpeter. I can't
wait to have him back on the show and talk
about that experience. The hard things men like.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
And things people like. Sorry, Courtney, look She's like.

Speaker 5 (01:56:29):
Oh, I get hard too, Yeah, I get hard to things.

Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
That make us hard some general I mean to shut
the fuck up and choke me. No, tell you to
shut the fuck up and choke you.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Yes. Can I ask you a question? It's not even
a question. Would you say that you like a sub
You do you think you got like sub black qualities
like like what submission?

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
No, you don't think being all right? So where is
the you know this question came up?

Speaker 5 (01:57:04):
I think you do have I think you have some
qualities of sub You may not totally be there, but
you can switch.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
So somebody, somebody, somebody came.

Speaker 3 (01:57:13):
We were talking about being dominant versus being submissive, and
people were saying that you can be eating box can
be submissive, and it can also be dominant.

Speaker 5 (01:57:26):
I can see that, right, depend on how the play goes.

Speaker 3 (01:57:29):
Right and how you play it right, like say you're
talking to her crazy while you're eating it, or like
you're really like manipulating her body like you on some ship.
You feel me, that would be very dominant. But what
I wanted to ask yesterday is you don't think that
you you do submissive shit.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
All right? The way that you're putting it.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
It's not even there's no judgment here.

Speaker 4 (01:57:54):
No, the way that you're putting it, I would say yes,
but I don't think that the way that I speak
about it, it doesn't come off that way. So I
feel like, even though I might like stuff that is submissive,
it's done with like a level of control.

Speaker 1 (01:58:08):
That makes sense.

Speaker 2 (01:58:09):
But I think most submissives do still have control.

Speaker 1 (01:58:12):
Nah, he's talking about Actually he's still calling the shots.
That's what.

Speaker 4 (01:58:18):
They do.

Speaker 1 (01:58:18):
I mean, both people have control.

Speaker 2 (01:58:20):
No, you, your damb is doing what you want them
to do to you.

Speaker 3 (01:58:26):
That's your control, right, You never lose control of what
you're allowing to happen to So the control part that
to me, that doesn't right. What I wanted to ask
him is, like he said, he likes being smothered. Can
we say that there's a dominance to being smothered with
face sitting?

Speaker 5 (01:58:46):
No, that I don't see any dominance in that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:49):
Yes, I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:58:50):
I disagree because for me, when somebody sitting on my face,
that's one of that's one of that's a specialty move, right,
because there's a certain way that I keep No, there's
a certain way that I can eat box when you're
it on my face that there's really not. Yeah, I
would say I'm selling, so let me try to no no, no,
no no.

Speaker 5 (01:59:07):
The way that you eat when they're on your face.

Speaker 4 (01:59:10):
Is so for me, like, yes, I'm in I'm in
a submissive position, but I'm still dominating the situation because
it's my it's my you know, the way that I'm
doing it, that's keeping me in control. So but I
understand like you guys saying like I like stuff that's
submissive and that's okay. I'm smother being choked. It's like, yeah,
that could be looked at it's being submissive.

Speaker 5 (01:59:31):
But I think you're a switch, and I think that's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:59:35):
Why do you think that?

Speaker 5 (01:59:36):
Because he likes certain things that are in in dismissive positions,
and he also likes being dominant. He can switch from
back and forth. He just said that he likes to
be choked and shut up and shut up and choked me. Yes,
that's submissive. I think I think. I think, yes, it's
a switch. I'm a switch to do I lean more
towards subissiveness. Yeah, but I could be a switch. Can
you be a Switchlan?

Speaker 1 (01:59:57):
Nah? My personality don't really give switch like that. I
feel like even if I'm the one like receiving anything,
I'm orchestrating the whole ship like the entire time. Like
I like, whenever I think about sex, I think like
like the niggas who like direct operas and shit like that,
Like I feel like this is like you're doing what
I'm telling you to do. There we go, so a

(02:00:18):
brain for problem even even down to like there was
a very very long time ago where somebody was trying
to say, like I'm gonna switch because I said something
similar yesterday. I'm like, I like when like you know,
my my show, you like would sit on my face
around my feeling or that's submissive. I was like, it's
not really submissive, Like I don't really look at like
that because like again I'm the one orchestrated, like yo,

(02:00:38):
bend over, come over, like come sit down type shit.
Like I feel like when it comes to like like
topping in bottom and stuff like that, it's it's not
necessarily much who's doing or who's receiving, But I feel
like it's more so like who's controlling the atmosphere and
the ambiance, like who's kind of setting the tempo and
shit like that. So for me, I don't I'm not

(02:00:59):
saying I would never do it, but I don't necessarily
see myself being in a role. I don't want to
say never, but it's just that's just not that wouldn't
be like something that I'm comfortable to.

Speaker 2 (02:01:09):
So what is submissive to y'all?

Speaker 1 (02:01:10):
Life?

Speaker 3 (02:01:12):
What is submissive to y'all where there is no dominance
or there is no control as y'all keep saying, when y'all,
when y'all label submissive versus dominant, y'all keep using the
word control, right, what is submissive to y'all?

Speaker 2 (02:01:24):
Then?

Speaker 4 (02:01:25):
To me, when somebody says submissive, I think of somebody saying, like,
you know, like the like like how we have like
we had that girl's steph do on this show, right,
and when you talk about the stuff that she does
and how guys like you know, like the guy she
had with her, right, how she would like you know,
how he was like rubbing her feet and just really
catering to her. To me, that's what I look at

(02:01:47):
as submissive, Like okay, like the woman is fully in
control on like all levels. So like you at every point,
you're gonna oblige, You're gonna do everything, like even at
the smallest level, it's never about you.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
That's to me what submission is. So as per Google,
it's ready to conform to authority or will of others,
meekly obedient.

Speaker 5 (02:02:10):
And reference of Well, I thinks I think Rabbit's definition
is really nice. He said, you're submissive to the pleasure,
not the person the dominant controls the pleasure. Yeah, so
you're submissive to the pleasure. I actually like that. I
think that makes sense because if I'm thinking about it,
there's there is actions I take where I'm submisive, submissive

(02:02:31):
to the pleasure, and there's actions that I take where
I'm controlling the pleasure. So that's why I say I
think I'm a switch.

Speaker 3 (02:02:43):
I think Yesterday's powerful in his messaging, and I think
that it's a weakness to not be able to do it.
You know what I mean, to be able to still
feel dominant in that woman choke you and slap you
and talk to you like that, and like you don't
feel no affront to your men, your.

Speaker 2 (02:03:06):
Masculinity or your manhood. You know what I'm saying, To.

Speaker 3 (02:03:09):
Be able to say, Yo, I want you to do
this to me, and you know what I mean, like
squash sitting me jump from across the.

Speaker 1 (02:03:15):
Room and squashed like a real cheese.

Speaker 3 (02:03:19):
That's to me, that's a level of comfort most men,
who especially heterosexual men, won't allow because they're scared of
what people going to say or of losing that control
the fact that you're still able to stand on that
and be like, I'm still that nigga because I do that,
you know what I mean. And then the idea that

(02:03:41):
you are a lot younger, so being able to say
that at your age, that's some powerful.

Speaker 5 (02:03:47):
Shit force to be reckoned with.

Speaker 2 (02:03:49):
When you get older, you understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (02:03:51):
I would never, at thirty two years old been that
open as either one of y'all. There's either one of y'all,
any of y'all, to be honest, I come from a
generation with that was not a thing. So you know,
I just want to speak power into Yes, I appreciate
and all of y'all that speak about this at y'all age,
in y'all generation where everything is taboo, everything is you

(02:04:14):
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:04:16):
So I want to speak power into y'all for that.
That's fire. Let me go to the soft, the soft
things people don't like in the bedroom things that make
them soft.

Speaker 4 (02:04:30):
Don't ask me about no ship that I said on
the podcast what I'm about to fuck.

Speaker 1 (02:04:35):
Actually second that I actually third following. I don't know
what I say when I leave here.

Speaker 5 (02:04:46):
I don't remember. I literally leave this house and like
everything I said is.

Speaker 1 (02:04:49):
Like one by eight O three. I don't know what
I said. That just topics. So what that's just topics.

Speaker 3 (02:04:57):
One thing Courtney said earlier for me, she was like,
after you've done this for a while, then you get
really comfortable with it.

Speaker 8 (02:05:05):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (02:05:05):
When I started this show, we was just chatting and exploring. Right,
this is who I am now. I love that about myself.
I love that about myself. Anything that I say on
this motherfucker I can stand on. But like, don't come
up to me while I'm peeing in the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
But you really feel that way, yo, This I am
who I am. I stand on what I stand on.

Speaker 1 (02:05:29):
I love.

Speaker 3 (02:05:29):
Let me just peto, bro, just pet you feel me? Yeah, yeah, yesterday.
I do understand that though, especially you know.

Speaker 4 (02:05:42):
You work in schools and ship people coming up to
you like yo, I've seen you in It's like.

Speaker 2 (02:05:47):
Come on, mister George, I get these people in the home.

Speaker 1 (02:05:57):
Room anyway, got actually don't got one this week.

Speaker 3 (02:06:03):
I don't have any uh, be confident about your ship.
I don't like people that it's not confident about this ship.
Seen this video today and there was a young lady
that went over to a guy's house and she's just
being very shy and like giggly and like yo, get
out my house, go home, Like stop yo, stop yo.

Speaker 2 (02:06:28):
All we heared you know what I mean. Stop acting
like that. I like her. That's about what she about,
be about what you were.

Speaker 5 (02:06:37):
Probably comfortable in your bed.

Speaker 1 (02:06:41):
Like that. That actually is hard for me getting comfortable, like.

Speaker 2 (02:06:47):
Oh yeah, hold on.

Speaker 1 (02:06:49):
The one girl like she just dropped in my bed
and its bounced up and down.

Speaker 2 (02:06:53):
Like she's ready. I'm like, I'm like memory phone baby,
she's testing to see what this. I can see why.

Speaker 1 (02:07:05):
Memory you know that, but you need that bounce. I
got the hospital bed though. When I had the button,
the back and ship come up like this.

Speaker 4 (02:07:13):
Yeah, get.

Speaker 1 (02:07:18):
I put this this, I put this on my life.
I got remove to my bed. I posted when I
get home. They got a remote, so once you get
it from no I got it from fairspeed. No, it's
as a memory from mattress. But my, my, my bread frame,
the frame it has a remote plugging comes up. Why

(02:07:38):
then do you have that?

Speaker 2 (02:07:39):
It's good for fucking.

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
Bro So like now when she rides, she can hold
on like to the top. Now you know, because I
don't got no headboard. My bed is just that I
don't go anyway. So like if she riding like you
know how your feet like singing to the mattress, and
now like she can hold that ship for leverage type ship.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:07:55):
So yeah, you know we're going to in this show
now because we have.

Speaker 3 (02:08:03):
Story to tell. I can't wait to hear it. Courtney
is in her bag yo, complete one and we still
got months left. She starts to hear one way and
she's in the year this is this.

Speaker 1 (02:08:18):
Is how happy Corny. I'm gonna make sure she got
dick out all time we're taking candidates, I'm doing screenings. No,
the one behind you. We gotta make sure we got
somebody for Courtney at all times.

Speaker 3 (02:08:29):
If you want to hear Courtney's story, please head over
to the Patreon. It probably be in an orgasm teer.
You know she don't funk around. Yeah, and we'll post
that this week. Sex, love, relationships, and accountability. Don't forget November. First,
hart A Ween the Nut Navy presents Born to Be Wild. Okay,

(02:08:51):
what's the fantasy Island. It's a lot going on.

Speaker 2 (02:08:55):
This is the show, the show.

Speaker 8 (02:09:11):
Don't don't talk, don't don't talk to

Speaker 6 (02:09:17):
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