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This week we talk about how growing up shaped everything—from our values and coping skills to our ideas about peace, purpose, and family. We look back at the people and places that raised us and reflect on the lessons that stuck.

We get into how barbershop culture taught us more than school ever could, the line between therapy and prayer, and how chaos, calm, and clarity all come in waves. It’s honest, funny, and full of the kind of talk that makes you think about where you came from—and where you’re going.

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SPEAKER_01 (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.

SPEAKER_03 (00:04):
The message behind saying the title of the
Heavyweight Podcast is to beable to say that we can we can
weigh in some heavy shit.
What we're talking about isimportant from every aspect of
it.
It's a heavy weight.
It's not just about physicalweight, but the weight of things
that that can weigh our minds.
So I think it's dope that we canhave this conversation.

SPEAKER_01 (00:28):
Go ahead.
I'm not going well it might takean hour now.
What would Dr.
Umar say?
Fuck that nigga.

SPEAKER_02 (00:38):
No, he didn't.

SPEAKER_00 (00:40):
No, you didn't.

SPEAKER_02 (00:42):
What?
Whatever.

SPEAKER_00 (00:43):
No, you didn't.
What number is this?

SPEAKER_02 (00:45):
I try to make uh these viral moves.
Oh see, I'm trying to make uspop.
217.

SPEAKER_00 (00:49):
217.
Hey, let him see it.
217.
Okay.
217.
Hey, do you think he got hands?

SPEAKER_04 (00:56):
Nah.

SPEAKER_00 (00:57):
He got kids, he don't take care of.
How you know that?
Because it's been all over theinternet.
Well, then fuck with me more.
You won't you won't believe theinternet?
I don't believe I don't like Dr.
Umar.
He's weird.
Well, y'all know I got this.

SPEAKER_01 (01:10):
This is dope.
This is where we at.
I I can't wait.
I want to be in the hood ofsomeone.
Hey nigga.

SPEAKER_02 (01:17):
Y'all can't take me too seriously because uh I I
learned this week that I'm Ihave autism.

unknown (01:22):
Do you?

SPEAKER_02 (01:23):
Yeah, I took Tylenol.

SPEAKER_01 (01:24):
Oh, the Tylenol.

SPEAKER_00 (01:25):
Get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_01 (01:26):
Yeah, everybody did.
And the fact that the fact thatTrump.

SPEAKER_02 (01:33):
Yeah.
A Centomanophine.

SPEAKER_00 (01:35):
Yeah, that he could get that.
You gonna get up here and sayJasmine Crockett got a low IQ,
but you can't say acementophene.
I'm like, nigga, you got to bekidding.

SPEAKER_01 (01:41):
Well, when it kept saying Tylenol, I was like,
well, that's a name brand.
So I could just take theWalgreens shit.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (01:46):
He finally looked at it and just said, Oh, that means
Tylenol.
Okay, yeah.
Y'all know what I'm talkingabout.
Shit.

SPEAKER_02 (01:52):
Breaking news.
Tylenol gives you autism.

SPEAKER_00 (01:55):
Yeah, that's crazy as hell.

SPEAKER_02 (01:57):
Um, okay, skinny.
That's a problem.
All them years, my mom tookTylenol.

unknown (02:02):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (02:02):
I guess the crack ain't to do with it.

SPEAKER_00 (02:04):
What's up, everybody?
It's your girl Desda Diva, andwelcome back to uh episode 217
of the heavyweight party.
Hey, yay! Hold on.

SPEAKER_02 (02:16):
We back, bitch.

SPEAKER_00 (02:17):
We back.
And as I mentioned, I'm yourhost, Desadiva.
Back like two flats with aCadillac.
Not dealing with his nigga, thisnigga today.
Uh, you guys go ahead andintroduce yourself for all those
people out there.

SPEAKER_01 (02:28):
Uh, yes, is him.
You just him?
Yes, is him.
Yes, is him?
Yeah.
I hope you're better than thatgoddamn movie.

SPEAKER_00 (02:36):
Yeah, you get more ignorant as the time like goes.

SPEAKER_01 (02:39):
I hope you better that damn movie.
You watched it?
No, I heard about it.
Yeah, yeah.
You should have known.
He's like M.
Night Shyamalan.

SPEAKER_00 (02:46):
Introduce yourself.

SPEAKER_01 (02:47):
Oh, damn.
Damn.

SPEAKER_03 (02:48):
Damn, skip me, huh?
Mukbang McFly.
Oh, you just be eating.

SPEAKER_02 (02:53):
What are you mukbang?
What'd you mukbang?
Nigga eating.
Just be eating.
Mukbang, more eating.

SPEAKER_00 (02:58):
Go ahead.

SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
You.

SPEAKER_00 (03:00):
You.

SPEAKER_02 (03:00):
Oh.
I'm just just call me nigga.

SPEAKER_00 (03:04):
Yep.
Nigga.
Positivity out the window.
Yeah, you just said, fuck it.

SPEAKER_02 (03:08):
I try being positive.
That's just for the birds.

SPEAKER_00 (03:10):
How was your week?

SPEAKER_02 (03:12):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (03:12):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (03:14):
Um, my week was cool.

SPEAKER_00 (03:16):
It's cool.

SPEAKER_02 (03:17):
Good week.

SPEAKER_00 (03:18):
Well, good week.
Okay.
Oh, man.

SPEAKER_02 (03:22):
Me and my baby celebrated uh it was our dating
anniversary.
You know, we won't want tocelebrate everything.
So we had our datinganniversary.
Been together uh 24, 23.
Long time, nigga.
Two and a half decades.

SPEAKER_00 (03:37):
All right.
All right.
Congratulations.
Shout out to Black Love.

SPEAKER_02 (03:40):
Somebody save me.

SPEAKER_00 (03:41):
I've had the same vagina for and you love every
moment of it because you saysomething about it every goddamn
episode.
The shit be good.
We we know shit.
You done told us all.
The shit be good.
We all know.

SPEAKER_02 (03:52):
Well, sh never mind.

SPEAKER_00 (03:53):
How was your week?

SPEAKER_03 (03:54):
It was good.
Uh mukbang fly here.
Making sure you niggas see meeat.

SPEAKER_00 (04:00):
What's the last thing you ate?
What was the last thing you ate?
What's the last thing you atethat could be put on a plate?

SPEAKER_02 (04:06):
Oh.
Oh, uh Well, you can set yourphone to play and play.
A protein bar.

SPEAKER_00 (04:10):
A protein bar.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (04:12):
You want a donut?

unknown (04:13):
No.

SPEAKER_02 (04:14):
I want white either.

SPEAKER_00 (04:15):
Uh yes, I'm or whatever the fuck you said your
name.

SPEAKER_02 (04:18):
Yes, it's him.

SPEAKER_00 (04:18):
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (04:20):
I don't know what this niggas on.
Uh it was a good week.
I just want to give a PSA to theniggas out here.
Uh you telling if you're astraight man out there and you
tell another nigga that they'renot they're ugly or they're not
attractive.

SPEAKER_02 (04:39):
He gay?

unknown (04:40):
Probably.

SPEAKER_03 (04:40):
I don't know what your angle is because I don't
care, or or no man should carethat another man calls them ugly
or thinks that they're notattractive because us as men.
If I don't if you're if you'renot who I'm appealing to, um I
don't care.
But that's just the PSA becauseyou know, and I notice in our
culture particularly, we tend togo, oh nigga, you ugly.

(05:03):
I don't care if you think I'mugly.
Now, if the woman thinks so,then that's one thing, but other
men call another man ugly.
I just never understood it.

SPEAKER_00 (05:11):
Did somebody call you ugly?

SPEAKER_03 (05:13):
I've been called ugly for years, but never by
woman.
Go figure.

SPEAKER_02 (05:16):
Uh I thought you were gonna figure out.
You just remind me of that uhDroopsy clip.
Oh, you a nigga bitch.
Yeah, yeah.
Hold on, hold on.
I found this guy on TikTok.
I don't know his name, but he'sserious.
He he's the the self-proclaimedstud slayer.

SPEAKER_00 (05:33):
Send him to me.

SPEAKER_02 (05:34):
Yeah.
And he goes around he catfishesstuds and then he meets up with
him.
This is the funniest shit.
And uh this nigga almost had hisass beat.
Well, yeah.
It's not Izzy.

SPEAKER_01 (05:47):
Huh?

SPEAKER_02 (05:48):
Is it Izzy?
No, it's not Izzy.
Oh god.
But the one time she was like,okay, fuck it.
You know what?
These girls, these girls piss meoff anyway, but she but he but
she let me know you the bitch ina relationship.
He was like, whoa, whoa, no, no,no, it can't be that way.
She's like, no, I'm doing thebest.
Then I said, ooh, nigga, you gotthe right one today.
My bad, yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 (06:09):
Yep.
Good week.
Good week.
Spent money, made money.
Did you spend more than youmake?
Probably.

SPEAKER_02 (06:23):
Oh, I forgot this.

SPEAKER_01 (06:24):
I didn't drive Lucille much today this week.

SPEAKER_02 (06:27):
I made oh I it was also a good week because I made
my last big installment togymnastics this week.

SPEAKER_00 (06:32):
All right.
Now for the year.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
No, no, I still got my monthly dues.

SPEAKER_00 (06:37):
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (06:37):
Yeah, like the last?
Nah.
I mean, but like the fuck.
The competition season.
The competition season is nowofficially paid for.
So now I gotta just save up forall those uh Saturdays of uh
trips to these.

SPEAKER_00 (06:53):
Well, when is the competition season?

SPEAKER_02 (06:55):
Here they they start they started in January.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_01 (06:58):
You uh reminded me, Graceland, she moved up.
They moved up.
That's what's up.
She advanced pretty quick.
We're like she's in gymnastics.
That's what's up.
They're like, oh yeah, she needsto move up.
And I was like, all right, cool.
Hell yeah.
She's way different ingymnastics.
She's like she's poised andserious.
Yeah, she just knows.

SPEAKER_00 (07:22):
And is her competition season also in
January?

SPEAKER_01 (07:24):
No, no, she's in like kinder fucking so she's
starting out.
Yeah, she's learning what to do,but like, oh, you all right.

SPEAKER_00 (07:30):
All right.

SPEAKER_02 (07:31):
You say that shit now until you got and then it
starts to cost.
And then and then you look upand she's doing walking on her
hands down a hallway.
Use your goddamn feet.
Shit.

SPEAKER_00 (07:42):
No, let her walk on her hands.

SPEAKER_03 (07:43):
You getting your she you're getting your money's
worth.

SPEAKER_00 (07:49):
Here's one more PSA.

SPEAKER_03 (07:50):
If you cherish your asshole or or your taste buds,
don't do the last dab atPopeye's.
That shit's hot.
That shit was hot.
And my dumbass on some blackenedchicken.

SPEAKER_01 (08:01):
It's a sauce.

SPEAKER_03 (08:02):
They have the you can buy the glass.
They have the hot ones, chicken,the sauce.
I bought there's their dollar apacket.
I put that shit on a piece ofchicken.
I ate a little bit.
I was like, that ain't bad.
So I put some uh uh across therest of the chicken.
And that when I tell you theafter-effect, because it it it's
it sicks up on you, it's adelayed reaction, and it fucked

(08:25):
me up, and my stomach hated me,then my asshole hated me.
So yeah, if you cherish yourtaste buds or asshole, do stay
away from the last day.
Sorry you had to do that.
I can think straight.
People have asked me questions.
I couldn't, I didn't know I wasgetting asked questions.

SPEAKER_01 (08:40):
Oh, you were out in public after that?

SPEAKER_03 (08:42):
If my asshole starts hurting, I'm I'm in for the day.
Oh, this is the initialreaction.
That that initial when the heatkicks in, you that's why I get
why they ask questions on theshow.
Because you can't think straightwhen you're thinking about heat.
It's hot.
Your lips, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (08:57):
Now you know how I felt that blow up when I said,
Oh shit, who does this?
Don't tell me that like a bitch.
Like, bitch, just don't look atit and flip this motherfucking
table over.

SPEAKER_00 (09:07):
There's your week.
I mean sorry.
Are you happy to be back?
Had somebody asked me a yearago, did I see myself sitting at
a table with niggas explainingwhy their asshole be hurting?
Uh when it's a good one.

SPEAKER_03 (09:18):
I mean, at least I mean at least it's fine.

SPEAKER_00 (09:20):
I would have never thought it was this, this it
would have been this moment.
My week was fine.

SPEAKER_03 (09:24):
In the world we live in, it could be from a multitude
of reasons.
Why is asshole hurts?

SPEAKER_00 (09:28):
Well it's fine.
He don't get us canceled.
My week was fine.

SPEAKER_03 (09:30):
Oh, we might get more viewers.

SPEAKER_02 (09:36):
Look here, man.
That gay couple said they madeuh 200,000 seven days.

SPEAKER_00 (09:40):
Who?
OnlyFans.
Oh, ain't nobody, ain't nobodyin seven days?

SPEAKER_02 (09:45):
Seven days.
I looked at my wife and said,look here, I know we got more.

SPEAKER_00 (09:48):
One more high-ass light bill away from one that
sells my goddamn feet.
So this motherfucker point.

SPEAKER_01 (09:52):
I'm about to try to do OnlyFans of just regular
shit.
Like cooking breakfast, theyshit, they they already exist.
They already exist.

SPEAKER_00 (10:01):
How do you what the what I don't understand is how
do y'all know so well what's onPornhub and what's on OnlyFans?
Because it comes across thetimeline.

SPEAKER_01 (10:08):
Yeah, I just I'm only where the fuck is your
algorithm like?
TikTok to uh exposes everything.
It's not my algorithm.
And it's a shit my wife you saidto me.
It's my search history.

SPEAKER_00 (10:20):
He said, bitch, I looked for it.
Shit.
I pulled it up.
Okay.

SPEAKER_02 (10:25):
I sent you that video because the chick has
stitched it.
What what's just I said thisvideo?

SPEAKER_03 (10:31):
You you call it dick tock, huh?

SPEAKER_01 (10:33):
Yeah, yeah, dick tock.
Man, I told you I saw somepeople just start fucking.
I was like, did you guys thinkthat was gonna work?
Like it was in the hot first ofall, they had a lot of in their
living room.

SPEAKER_02 (10:45):
Yeah.
Like maybe we do some wild shit.
I was like, why is this a thing?
On TikTok?
Yeah, wild shit.
And then they just episode.

SPEAKER_00 (10:53):
We're gonna on this episode, we're gonna dive deep
in our childhood and mentalhealth and how our childhood
shaped our mental health.
Let's just go ahead and getstarted because we're not gonna
be talking about dick talk forfive whole minutes.
We're not doing it.
Pause.
No ma'am.
Um what let's start with you.
Who was you and me?
I don't know because y'allchange our names up so goddamn

(11:15):
much.
I don't know who's who okay?
Monk Bang.

SPEAKER_03 (11:20):
Watch me.

SPEAKER_00 (11:25):
Explain uh the environment to which you grew
up.
Where'd you grow up?
Where what city?
What's to talk about where yougrew up?

SPEAKER_03 (11:31):
I grew up in St.
Louis, Missouri, and east sideof Riverside.

SPEAKER_00 (11:36):
And the fact that I'm just now learning that is is
is like I I knew about RiversideDub, but I didn't know that you
were ever in, I didn't knowMissouri had niggas.
So what?
Are you kidding me?
St.
Louis, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 (11:50):
Wow, yeah.
St.
Louis is nigga niggas.

SPEAKER_03 (11:52):
Uh City, shout out to Nelly and Nelly and and Jason
Tatum and all that.
That's where that's where I was.

SPEAKER_00 (11:58):
Oh, duh, with the St.
Lunatics.
Duh.
Okay, bitch, put it together.
Will it and hoe?
Okay, I got it.
My bad.
Sorry, what's her name?
Sexy red?

SPEAKER_04 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah.
St.

SPEAKER_00 (12:10):
Lunatic.
Oh, is that where she's from?
Oh, God, that's probably why Iblocked that shit out.

SPEAKER_03 (12:15):
When I found out that sexy red was from St.
Louis and I listened to herlyrics, I said, this checks out.
Yeah, you listen to the city.

SPEAKER_00 (12:19):
She's not like, okay, but listen.
Sexy red make like good do yourmakeup before you go to the club
music.
Because that because that bigass over.
That's a good song.

SPEAKER_03 (12:31):
I don't fight, I don't fight for respect, bitch.
I fight for dick.
I was like, she's from St.
Louis, that checks out.

SPEAKER_00 (12:37):
Okay.
Okay.
I don't necessarily agree withher lyrics, but she made good,
like get ready for the clubmusic.

unknown (12:43):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (12:44):
Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_03 (12:45):
When you proudly say, I don't fight for respect,
bitch.
I fight for dick.

SPEAKER_00 (12:49):
I think Cardi B has a line stimulant to like that
too.
So I love Cardi B.
Look here.
Ain't nobody listening.
I'm in my Cardi B error of life.
Okay.
If one nigga act wrong, you justgo get a new one, Cardi.
And I feel you, Cardi.

SPEAKER_02 (13:02):
Because I'm gonna say that that goddamn I am drama
album.
That should that should dobanging.

SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
From the beginning to the end.
And you know every referencethat Cardi is speaking about.
Every single person that Cardiis speaking about.

SPEAKER_01 (13:14):
We're gonna get another one.
Cause this nigga ain't stayingeither.

SPEAKER_00 (13:19):
No, he's not gonna be.
This is not gonna be the one.
It's okay, Cardi.

SPEAKER_03 (13:24):
She's the one she called her Bia diarrhea.
Diarrhea is a couple of things.
You could smell her before yousee it.
Smell it before you see it.

SPEAKER_00 (13:33):
Bia been trying to make a uh a clap back since that
damn song came out.
Can't get it together.
She should have just closed herbook, like, oh well.
And her mouth.

SPEAKER_02 (13:40):
Apparently, if you can smell it before you see her,
yeah, she definitely all I'mgonna say is whoever writing for
Cardi, they did a great job.

SPEAKER_00 (13:45):
Yeah, this this album is is Cardi writes her own
damn music.

SPEAKER_01 (13:49):
Hardy next door, right?
I don't know.
Probably.

SPEAKER_00 (13:52):
Yeah, she uh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (13:54):
Yeah, she's a good series.

SPEAKER_00 (13:56):
Yeah, she's fired.

SPEAKER_01 (13:56):
Oh my we did ask a question too.

SPEAKER_00 (13:58):
Yeah, I wanted to know.
Just tell just tell me aboutwhere you where you grew up.

SPEAKER_01 (14:01):
Did you finish study?
It was in St.
Louis.
We got to St.
Louis.
We got to St.
Louis and went on the rails.

SPEAKER_03 (14:06):
It went on the rails, off the rails.

SPEAKER_00 (14:07):
So go ahead.
He already answered.

SPEAKER_03 (14:09):
Is it just where I was from?

SPEAKER_00 (14:11):
Yeah, just where you from.
You can talk about yourenvironment.
The question is um to tell whereuh just a short where you grew
up.

SPEAKER_03 (14:20):
Yeah, St.
Louis.
Oh uh, and and and Eastside,Riverside.

SPEAKER_01 (14:24):
I heard that way wrong.

SPEAKER_00 (14:25):
Okay, nigga, East River, don't live, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 (14:27):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (14:28):
Go ahead.
Next person.

SPEAKER_01 (14:30):
Everywhere.
I grew up all over the end ofthe name.
I think we moved like 10 times.
Just say how you know.
Yeah, all over.
Riverside Rialto, fucking.
Yeah, all of it.
So I'm born in Virginia.
Left in house two.

SPEAKER_03 (14:45):
Did you listen to that clip song differently?

SPEAKER_01 (14:48):
I'm from Virginia.
We're in shit to do but cook.
I didn't until I went.

SPEAKER_00 (14:55):
Did you eat at Wawa when you went to Virginia?

SPEAKER_01 (14:57):
Nah.

SPEAKER_00 (14:58):
I love Wawa.

SPEAKER_01 (14:59):
Nah, we went to uh uh Sheets.
What the fuck was that?
It's his little restaurant.

SPEAKER_00 (15:03):
Cookout.

SPEAKER_01 (15:04):
Nah.
You know all the restaurantsare.

SPEAKER_00 (15:06):
Yes, I loved living in Virginia.
And guess what?
I lost 150 pounds when I livedin Virginia.
So, and I was eating every day.

SPEAKER_01 (15:13):
Well, the humidity.

SPEAKER_00 (15:14):
The humidity was fucking me up.

SPEAKER_01 (15:16):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (15:18):
I was also at peace.
Yeah, that'll do it.

SPEAKER_01 (15:20):
I was at peace then.
That'll do it.

SPEAKER_00 (15:22):
I was skinny as hell when I lived in Virginia.

SPEAKER_01 (15:23):
Nah, with the Chinese food out there was
different.
It's like sold Chinese food.

SPEAKER_00 (15:27):
That shit, and it come hot.

SPEAKER_01 (15:28):
And you gotta get it out the hood.

SPEAKER_00 (15:30):
Yes.
And the iced tea that they giveyou with the Chinese food.

SPEAKER_01 (15:34):
Nigga might be dead, but you like, yeah, let me get
that egg food.
Young.

SPEAKER_00 (15:38):
Yeah.
They whole setup is fire.
They Chinese food is different.
It's nothing like this Chinesefood.
It's weird.

SPEAKER_01 (15:45):
With gravy.
Yes.

SPEAKER_03 (15:46):
You go to.
Did it call them chopsui thereor no?

SPEAKER_01 (15:50):
What the I don't eat the Chinese food places?
No.
Nah, I forgot that it's some.

SPEAKER_00 (15:56):
If you go in the right place in the hood, that
shit just says Chinese.

SPEAKER_03 (15:59):
Yeah.
Like if you're in the hoods inthe Midwest and the East Coast,
if you every other corner you'llsee, like even watch Eight Mars
something, it'll say Chopsui atevery every Chinese food place
says chopsui.

SPEAKER_01 (16:11):
I'm still trying to find bitch nigga.
I gotta find one of those.

SPEAKER_00 (16:17):
We're gonna have to tape from one of those if we if
we locate one.

SPEAKER_03 (16:21):
I'm still trying to figure out where they got the
chicken for those wings, though.

SPEAKER_00 (16:24):
Where you grew up?
Because I would love to knowwhere the hell they found you.

SPEAKER_01 (16:29):
A different era.

SPEAKER_00 (16:32):
You definitely somebody pop up return.

SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
I grew up in O'Shagan.
Uh uh LA, Carson, high desert.

SPEAKER_00 (16:43):
Okay, and I'm from LA and Riverside.
I doubt it.
You doubt what, nigga?
The LA part.
Nigga, what?
I'm for sure.
I can't.
I don't want to tell y'all mygranny still lives there, so I
don't want to say we're out.
No, wrong wrong number, nigga,and you don't know my granny.
You said 49th.
Wrong street and you don't knowmy granny.
You said 42nd?
That wrong street, and I ain'tgonna confirm it, and you don't

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know my granny.
And my granny watches the show.
She would know you.
She would say your name.

SPEAKER_02 (17:09):
Because my grandparents' first house was on
43rd in Central.

SPEAKER_00 (17:12):
That don't mean they know my granny.

SPEAKER_02 (17:14):
That's a lot of niggas in the area, especially
back in the 30s.

SPEAKER_00 (17:17):
You ever eat at Taco Martin?

SPEAKER_01 (17:18):
Did you mean like the time or you mean the
streets?
Back in the 30s.
I'm like, wait, what?
Yeah, the times.
Like 1930s?
Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (17:27):
Yeah, my yeah, my yeah, my grandfather.

SPEAKER_01 (17:28):
Get on now.
They can see more than 30minutes.

SPEAKER_02 (17:32):
Madam.
They can they can I think theycame to Cali.
Actually, you take the back.
I think they came to Cali in thelate in the late 40s.

SPEAKER_00 (17:39):
Damn.
Sidebars be hilarious.
Oh that's just that's that's Ipicture Mo Bell.

SPEAKER_01 (17:46):
I push your horse, yeah.
Just a cigar, get on now.

SPEAKER_02 (17:55):
Get to getting.
Yo.
I was raised by old ass countryfolks.
We we know.
It was very, very religious.

SPEAKER_00 (18:04):
We know.
I love that for you.
Um what were some major figuresthat shaped that uh that who
shaped you to be who you were?

SPEAKER_02 (18:13):
My grandparents.

SPEAKER_00 (18:15):
We know you embodied an older spirit, which is always
which is kind of a cool thingabout you.

SPEAKER_02 (18:22):
I mean, well, they were like, I'm not they was like
religious, though, but I'm notas religious as they were.
I mean, I was growing up, I wasraised in a church, but that
part we wouldn't have gased.

SPEAKER_01 (18:32):
But I exit stage left.
I was gonna say that usually iswhat happens.
Yeah, we wouldn't have gased.

SPEAKER_02 (18:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (18:41):
Well, I got unchristian from going to a
Christian college.
So really, really?
Really?
Yeah, really.
But why?
Because some of the stuff here,like because when you dive
deeper, you're like, oh, thatdon't track.

SPEAKER_00 (18:55):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 (18:56):
That don't track on me, but that's cool.

SPEAKER_00 (18:58):
They they lost me when they told me that the
all-knowing God needed you tosacrifice your firstborn child
in order that he can know thatyou loved him.
That nigga, you already knewthat.

SPEAKER_01 (19:05):
That sounds some occult shit.

SPEAKER_00 (19:06):
You already knew that.
But we're on a different route.

SPEAKER_01 (19:08):
Yeah, this might lose us some viewers.
Yeah, sorry.

SPEAKER_00 (19:12):
But if anybody that views and watches my page, they
know where I'm at with it,because I say it.

SPEAKER_01 (19:18):
Uh, influence, parents, family, whole family,
because you know, uh, we did alot together.
Grandma for sure.
My grandma was a differentfucking type of human.
Like 22 in the purse, but bringyou inside and look at the case.
She's Madea.
Cook for you.
My favorite.

SPEAKER_00 (19:37):
Your name Granny was Medea.

SPEAKER_01 (19:38):
Oh no, she was little, she was like a little
ass lady.
I remember we were somebody,some essay cut her off, and then
these niggas start arguing withher for some reason, and she
ain't back down.
I was like, I don't think theyknow what grandma has in the
purse.

SPEAKER_00 (19:50):
Like Granny saying that, give you but what about
you?

SPEAKER_03 (19:55):
Uh my dad in his barber shop on 14th Street in
Park.
And uh it was because he alwayshad like different characters
that would um come into thatbarber shop.
And I feel like growing up thatkind of shaped me to kind of
understand uh where was that?

SPEAKER_01 (20:14):
Was that over here?

SPEAKER_03 (20:15):
Right across from right across from Lincoln High
School.

SPEAKER_01 (20:18):
Where the cookie puzzle at right now.

SPEAKER_03 (20:19):
Yeah, where yeah, right there in that in that
area.
Um growing up, that was my mostof my childhood was being in
that barber shop with him and uhwatching him work on his feet
for like 14 hours.
And then uh I remember there wasa guy that used to work there,
his name was Sam, and I rememberSam used to always say some

(20:41):
shit, and he used to always dothis thing where he would like
rub his nails together, and thatwas like a stimulant, like like
he said it would help stimulatenail growth or hair growth.
And I remember the last time Isaw him was he was dressed like
Superfly.

SPEAKER_01 (20:53):
Oh, that's dope.

SPEAKER_03 (20:54):
And because it was Halloween.
Okay, and he uh he never made itback to the shop.
He died that weekend.
Oh man, that's that's not whereI thought the story was.
Me neither.
You just remember him being likethat the old pimp, and he used
to have this weird tick with hischin.
But I just remembered like therewere so many different
characters that came in thatbarbershop, and um that that

(21:18):
shaped me like wholeheartedlybecause it made me feel like
there's all these differentcharacters, and then I wasn't I
was very anti-social, but it itit made me kind of realize how
many different people type ofpeople there are, and and then
they're all of uh uh uh peopleof color, so it was dope to see
growing up.
Was the character it was likewhen so when I watched

(21:39):
barbershop it has a specialplace with me because I remember
what it was like to be in abarbershop like that, but you
can also differentiate what'sreal and not real from
Hollywood, because you would belike, that's not how a
barbershop operates, but at thesame time, the things that they
did take from the barbershop,I'm like, it resonates with me
because I watched, I literallygrew up in the barbershop
watching.

SPEAKER_01 (21:59):
That still trips me out.
Like, because my dad followedyour dad wherever, whichever
shop he went to.
So I'm like, all this time I wasin there and you was in there.
Like, it took us that long.
No, he would take me.
Well, he yeah, but he would takeme to get my hair cut.

SPEAKER_00 (22:14):
You got your hair cut by his dad.
And that's right.

SPEAKER_03 (22:17):
But they was cool.
There's a lot of that that's thethe interesting history is when
we met, we found out that ourdads knew each other.
When Tejor, when I talked metTejor, I found out him and his
brother, Brendan, used to gettheir hair cut by my dad.
So it was like a lot of peoplein the east side or that went to
north, a lot of them were coolwith me because they knew my
dad.
So that's why that the wholeterm, oh, you just do the barber

(22:38):
sign.
Yeah.
Because they all knew my dad atsome point.

SPEAKER_00 (22:40):
I've been in public with you and heard you tell
somebody that, and they'd belike, Oh, yeah, like I know who
that is.
So I was like, Okay, man, Iheard that.
Not your daddy, the famousbarber.

SPEAKER_03 (22:49):
Yeah, he was he brought the uh the jerry curl to
uh to St.
Louis because he used to he gotthe jerry curl out here and he
took it.

SPEAKER_01 (22:59):
Yeah, I mean, I remember when I did the S curl
too and S curl.
I had a it's it's a Jerry curlbecause I had I had an S curl
too, but when your hair getslonger, it's a jerry curl.

SPEAKER_00 (23:11):
You had an S curl too?

SPEAKER_01 (23:13):
Oh yeah, I was walking around fucking uh uni
high school or uni middleschool.

SPEAKER_00 (23:18):
Just split yourself.

SPEAKER_01 (23:24):
You went to uni?
Yeah, I went to uni.
Me too.
Nick, are you hosting or gettingpermission?

SPEAKER_00 (23:30):
I'm doing both, nigga.
You the feds?
I'm doing I'm doing both, okay?
Okay, you just you just jealousbecause you didn't grow up in
our neck of the woods.

SPEAKER_02 (23:38):
I'm not I'm not at all.

SPEAKER_00 (23:40):
Thank you.
Thank you.
He's jealous.
He's jealous.

SPEAKER_02 (23:42):
I grew up in the suburbs.
I'm fine.

SPEAKER_00 (23:44):
He's jealous, he's jealous.

SPEAKER_03 (23:45):
I could play in the street.

SPEAKER_00 (23:47):
Okay, whatever.

SPEAKER_03 (23:47):
Oh I could play in the street too, nigga.
You just might get chased by uha doberman or a rock while I
grew up in the street.

SPEAKER_00 (23:55):
Like like we're not gonna be all day.

SPEAKER_03 (23:57):
I visited those streets.
I didn't I didn't live in thosestuff.

SPEAKER_00 (23:59):
We're not gonna be all day.
My my mystery.
My my figure that that um shapedmy my life, my upbringing was
probably my grandfather.
May he rest in peace because hedefinitely was um more so of the
father figure.
And then um my mom had a had aboyfriend whenever I was like
one.

(24:19):
And nobody remember that shit.
You was one.
My mom had a boyfriend when Iwas one.
He came into my life and hasbeen fathering me since.

SPEAKER_04 (24:28):
God damn.

SPEAKER_00 (24:29):
And he shaped like him and my mom broke up when I
think I was like fucking six orseven.
I was young when they broke up,and he never stopped being there
for me.
Oh, that's nice.
So yeah, like he is good man.
Uh he's amazing.
Like amazing.
But you had an example.

SPEAKER_01 (24:43):
Oh my god, Maurice.
Uh God damn it, Maurice.
I digress.

SPEAKER_00 (24:52):
I mean, you say that we all make decisions.
I mean, I'm sure your wife hadamazing examples, but she still
went that direction with you.
I mean, we all we all makechoices.
And here she are, she's in agreat space now.
Now, but I mean, we're not gonnaremember her.
Anyways, he was a great man, andhe still is a great man.

(25:13):
I still talked, I mean I talkedto him a few days ago.
Um, and he shaped a lot of ofyou know why who I am today.
And then I have a cousin, anolder cousin, he's like my mom's
age, and shout out to Papa,that's my guy.
And um he is the most liketoughest, like, we'll probably
knock your ass the fuck out.

(25:34):
Sweetest loving person I evermade in my life.
And he shapes a lot too.
Like, like he he's the guy thata message uh, me and my sister
on on Valentine's Day, like,happy Valentine's Day, I love
y'all.
Don't take no fucking suckershit off these niggas.
Like, he's amazing.
So those are my three influencesthat shape my life.
You got anything you want tosay, buddy?

SPEAKER_01 (25:56):
Where the fiends at.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
pubs.

SPEAKER_00 (26:02):
Whatever.
Give me one one life lesson thatyou uh carry with you today.
From just in general, from oneof the people that influenced
you.
Let's go, let's go in thatdirection.

SPEAKER_01 (26:18):
Compassion.
Be compassionate.
That's the lesson uh fromgrandma.
Because she was tough, but likeI said, uh, whenever I was there
on the weekends, there wouldalways be some Jehovah's
Witnesses that she would becauseshe was not, but when they come

(26:39):
to the door, come on in.
Feed them, talk to it'd be likethree hours.
And she didn't change nothing,but it was always taught me how
it would be welcoming and allshit like that.
So I think I take a lot of that,the compassion part.
Cause it's fine to be tough, butI think it's harder to show that

(27:00):
part to people that you don'treally know.

SPEAKER_00 (27:02):
We need her in my neighborhood because the Mormons
keep coming to my house and I'mfucked up and told them my name.
So then John goes to the doorand be like, like, no, she
can't, she's not gonna come tothe door.
They be like, Desiree.

SPEAKER_01 (27:13):
Oh, I did that with the Mormons because they was
fine.
They sent some fine ones to thedoor when they're gonna be able
to do it.

SPEAKER_00 (27:18):
No, they didn't, because they don't even make
fine Mormons.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (27:23):
I seen them in Mobile and I was thrown because
I was like, wait a minute, whatare they doing over here?
Like, but they were here.

SPEAKER_01 (27:30):
Well, I was in it's a really white neighborhood, so
they probably were surprisedwhen I opened the door.
They exist.

SPEAKER_00 (27:39):
Let's do a quick, rapid, uh, rapid fire round.

SPEAKER_01 (27:43):
Did anybody else answer?
I feel like I just oh you shit.

SPEAKER_00 (27:46):
The way you give me answers, you over here trying to
thot with the goddamn Mormons.
Go ahead, answer.
I did.

SPEAKER_02 (27:53):
What was the question?

SPEAKER_01 (27:54):
Oh, is you his life lesson or life.

SPEAKER_00 (27:56):
We'll need his life lesson.

SPEAKER_02 (27:57):
He gotta You can't control what they say, you can
only control what you do.

SPEAKER_00 (28:01):
That's true.
I fuck with that.

SPEAKER_01 (28:03):
Very true.

SPEAKER_00 (28:04):
I fuck with that.
These are not life lessons thatI actually use, but these are
the two that stick in my headthat my great-granny told me.
Okay, you sitting on the checkthat you're asking cash at any
time.
Shouldn't have told me that atfive, but she did.
And you need to sleep withoutyour draw so your coochie can
breathe.
Well, shouldn't have told methat at five, but she did.
And oh, and you always need towear clean draws out the house.

(28:24):
I do use that one because if youget in a car accident and they
gotta rip your clothes off you,you don't be out here fucking
embarrassing her with no dirtyass draws.

SPEAKER_03 (28:31):
Well, to be fair, you could get in a car accident
and shit yourself.

SPEAKER_01 (28:35):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (28:37):
You could shoot yourself in the car accident,
and then you still got dirtydraws and a clean underwear.

SPEAKER_01 (28:42):
Yep.
Yep.
I was this many days old.

SPEAKER_02 (28:48):
Hate y'all.

SPEAKER_00 (28:50):
Can't stand y'all.

SPEAKER_02 (28:53):
My wife told my daughter that shit, and I said,
Look, I you do that shit in yourroom.
You get my bed, you put somedraws on.

SPEAKER_00 (28:58):
Yes, of course.
When she shouldn't have beenwith her dad, but in her room,
you women ain't supposed to haveon bras.
We just is just really quick.
Women ain't supposed to have onbras and draws.
Because we we need to hang andbreathe.
Period point five.

SPEAKER_02 (29:10):
You gotta keep that pH balanced.

SPEAKER_00 (29:13):
And the best way to do it is to make that coochie
you heard the girl say, let thatcoochie breathe.
And that was about the mostinformative information of that
song.

SPEAKER_01 (29:21):
She's a she's uh she's a saint.

SPEAKER_00 (29:23):
She was correct.
Let the coochie breathe.
Okay, let's do a rapid rapid uhKevin answered.
Rapid fire.
Damn.
You didn't answer?

SPEAKER_03 (29:30):
No, I was just gonna say I thought you did.
You started with Kevin.
Um Damn.

SPEAKER_00 (29:38):
Listen, I've been out of my mind and I told y'all
that for I got here.

SPEAKER_03 (29:41):
My quote is just always what my dad says, you
know what you need to do, so doit.
That's it.

SPEAKER_00 (29:47):
I like that.
That's simple but powerful.
I fuck with that.
And yeah, y'all try to tell mymy heart, baby, because I told
y'all before I got here I wasnuts, and y'all was just like
bring your ass anyway.
So obviously, you like me nuts.
Um

SPEAKER_03 (30:00):
Um we're gonna that's what he took?
Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 (30:04):
Is that right?

SPEAKER_03 (30:05):
You like me nuts?

SPEAKER_00 (30:06):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (30:07):
He's a he's a pirate.

SPEAKER_00 (30:08):
You like me nuts?
Is that a leprechaun?
What was the first nickname thatyou ever had?

SPEAKER_01 (30:16):
I'm not telling y'all that shit.
That shit.
I got too many fucked upnicknames from the family.
One of them was Mudhead.
I was like, why the fuck are youcalling me Mudhead?
That's funny.
Edy, I mean, them niggas used tocall me, and they said I was bad
as fuck.
So you call me Edie, I mean thatmotherfuckers were just killing
people.
Like, god damn, Edy Edy.
That's what they would say.
How cute.
Dink, I think my first nicknamewas.

(30:39):
Yeah, because I'm like, now I'mtriggered and upset.
Y'all call me.
I think Dink was the first one.
And that just kept going.

SPEAKER_00 (30:52):
What do they call you now?

SPEAKER_01 (30:54):
Uh well, apparently my glass, I named myself with my
glasses, and I forgot.
It's funny daddy.
Because the glasses were like,what do you need, funny daddy?
And I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 (31:09):
Nah, I'm finna do this with you.
Nickname.

SPEAKER_02 (31:11):
Uh I only got three nicknames.

SPEAKER_00 (31:14):
Okay, run them.

SPEAKER_02 (31:15):
Um my aunt started calling me Reese, so my family
calls me Reese.
My mom calls me Bud.
Um, and my my uh my favoritesister-in-law, my favorite
sister calls me Faye.
We call we call each other Faye.

SPEAKER_00 (31:28):
I heard um our our cousin call you Reese.

SPEAKER_02 (31:32):
My cousin calls me Reese.
Our cousin.
I don't know why she said that.

SPEAKER_00 (31:39):
Because that is our cousin.
Ask him.
Ask him.
Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 (31:44):
I'm gonna tell you the same thing I told my wife,
just because your family ain'tinterested.

SPEAKER_00 (31:47):
That my I'm a very interesting my family lit.
I got a very interesting family,but I just that is our cousin.

SPEAKER_02 (31:53):
You have Dominique this.

SPEAKER_00 (31:55):
No, my family's super lit.
Our cousin.
Thank you.
Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 (31:58):
It was Panda Andy.

SPEAKER_00 (32:00):
Why?

SPEAKER_03 (32:01):
Uh it was an it was my sister.
She said it was from the song.
Uh was it Mandy Pandy or How YouDoing that song from the 80s?
No.

SPEAKER_01 (32:11):
I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 (32:12):
Oh, we're in my heart.
I do you do.

SPEAKER_03 (32:15):
Panda Andy or Mandy Pandy or Andy Pandy or whatever.
It was Andy Pandy.
Some variation variation.
So it was man, it was Panda Andyor Mandy Pand.
Yeah, Panda Andy.

SPEAKER_02 (32:24):
That's it.

SPEAKER_03 (32:26):
Over the years I've had other ones.
Uh one I gave myself was AnwanNicarachi.

SPEAKER_00 (32:31):
Oh boy.

SPEAKER_01 (32:33):
See, I'm I don't live by the rules because I
think all of my nicknames, Ijust gave them to myself.

SPEAKER_03 (32:38):
Like, not my the kid one, but so yesterday I was
talking to Andreas and I said,uh, because he was telling me
about ninjas, and I was playinguh Assassin's Creed, and I said,
you know, you come from a longlineage of uh ninjas.
And Zulu was like, don't tellhim that.
I said, Yeah.
He's oh she's like, all right,so what's the clan?
I was like, uh the Nicarachiclan.
We uh we we we practice the uhthe art of neganuity.

SPEAKER_00 (33:03):
Not a better thing to be at school telling me.

SPEAKER_03 (33:08):
She's like, so what's your uh your special to?
I said, the art of bullshit.
And then she was like, thatdoesn't work.
I said, have you seen BeverlyHills Cop?
It'll get you out some shit.
You so goddamn okay.

SPEAKER_00 (33:20):
Don't say that out of school, baby.
I mean, if you if you do itright, baby, don't say that at
school.
She little cute self.

SPEAKER_02 (33:29):
Oh my god.
My favorite nickname is uh wasthe uh uh Flovia Sickfried.

SPEAKER_03 (33:34):
Flovia Sickfried, that still exists.
He has to come out on occasion,so oh my god.

unknown (33:38):
Oh, excuse me.

SPEAKER_00 (33:39):
My my nicknames were Duck.
I have one cousin that calls meDuck because it was my first
word.
Um, and then my my granny callsme Desiree B.
And I think it's what the Bstand for.
I think it's because one of mycousin's friends used to call me
that, and he was a blood.

SPEAKER_01 (34:00):
Oh, damn.
So I think we was going to belike, she banged you.
Yeah, from the youth.

SPEAKER_00 (34:05):
I don't I don't I don't do any banging.
Um and then I have a cousin.
She could, I don't know why shecouldn't say Desiree, but she
but she but she calls me Des T.
And so some of my family callsme Desire T.
My sister calls me Dominiquecalls me Sussie.
And everybody else, my dad is uhthe one I mentioned, um, raised
me, is the only person thatcalls me Deszy, and everybody

(34:28):
else calls me Des.
And all you niggas call me Desthe D.

unknown (34:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (34:32):
I guess I say is it maybe Des Desert because you
might have the T.

SPEAKER_00 (34:38):
You know, I don't know why that lady called me
that.
Um, I wish she stopped, butshe's gonna call me that
probably till forever, andthat's fine.
That's fine.
Because she was a premium.
We call her Wee Wee, and shedon't want to be called Wee Wee.
She don't want to be called WeeWee.
So as long as she's calling meDesert T, then her ass is Wee
Wee.
And that's that.
That's fucked up.
But she killed going with Wee.

SPEAKER_02 (34:58):
My nieces, they they they they can never say Uncle
Reese.
And they were, you know how kidssay they were fucking up, so
they were calling me UncleGreasy.

SPEAKER_01 (35:05):
Ah, hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00 (35:07):
They didn't fuck that up.
They had it right on themotherfucking head on the nail.
I feel cute.

SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
KJ.
KJ, too.

SPEAKER_00 (35:12):
That's uh KJ, is your middle name start with a J?

SPEAKER_01 (35:16):
Junior.

SPEAKER_02 (35:17):
He's a junior.

SPEAKER_00 (35:18):
Oh my god, nigga.
How the fuck I'm supposed toknow he's a fucking junior.
I don't read that wall.
That's so sad.
I don't look at the stuff onthat wall because I'd be sad.

SPEAKER_04 (35:32):
That's nice.

SPEAKER_00 (35:33):
That's only what I only noticed that your dad was
up there.
That's I didn't even know.
I and I'm the rest of themniggas.
I just noticed it because I knowhis face.

SPEAKER_01 (35:42):
Because you had to mess it with you.
I'm messing with you.

SPEAKER_00 (35:44):
And then I noticed your wife's is this her uncle?
Yeah.
Because she told you to put thenigga up there.
Remember, you had said it on thepodcast.

SPEAKER_01 (35:51):
He was up there.

SPEAKER_00 (35:51):
So then I looked over there, but I didn't read
the other one.
So I didn't fucking know thatyou was a junior.
That's nice to know.

SPEAKER_01 (35:57):
Yeah, I'm a junior.
Oh.
I don't know how that works,though, now.
You would still be a junior.

SPEAKER_03 (36:03):
Or do you become like like a graduator?

SPEAKER_00 (36:07):
Yeah, y'all are so okay.
What was your favorite childhoodmeal?
That's a real question.
Cause no.
What was your favorite childhoodmeal?
Nigga, all of them.

SPEAKER_01 (36:14):
Uh childhood meal.
All of them.

SPEAKER_00 (36:17):
Pizza.
I like the taste of history fromum El Cholos.
That was my favorite childhoodmeal.
And a and a virgin pina colada.

SPEAKER_01 (36:23):
It might still be the same.
Shakies is a tiger.
Yes.
The tiger sauce.
The fuck is tiger sauce?
The sauce.
I got a gallon in there.
I could bring it out here.

SPEAKER_00 (36:34):
No, it's okay.

SPEAKER_01 (36:36):
My favorite.

SPEAKER_02 (36:37):
You want the meal or the dish?

SPEAKER_00 (36:39):
You can give me the meal.

SPEAKER_02 (36:40):
Oh.

SPEAKER_00 (36:40):
You can give it a dish.

SPEAKER_02 (36:41):
Anytime my grandfather got up at three in
the morning to light that barrelsmoker, I knew it was about to
go down.

SPEAKER_01 (36:46):
Oh, yeah, I gotta do these ribs.
So, uh y'all have ribs andspaghetti?

SPEAKER_02 (36:51):
Tomorrow.
I'll be back.
Um I would say probably somesome ribs, but my grandma would
make me my um my yams with mymarshmallows.

SPEAKER_00 (37:01):
You like yams and marshmallows?
You wait inside.

SPEAKER_02 (37:04):
I love marshmallows.

SPEAKER_00 (37:05):
Don't say nothing else about white folks.

SPEAKER_02 (37:06):
I love marshmallows.

SPEAKER_00 (37:07):
What the fuck are you talking about?

SPEAKER_02 (37:09):
I love marshmallows.

SPEAKER_01 (37:10):
That ain't just no white shit.
It is with the marshmallows onthe top.
You must not have been throughdriven through the south.

SPEAKER_00 (37:16):
I just don't like the marshmallows on the top.
You just don't like them.

SPEAKER_02 (37:19):
I like a lot of food niggas do it.
Now I'm thinking about salmoncroquettes and biscuits.
Yep, salmon croquettes.
Salmon croquettes are fire.
We now we're just talking aboutfood.

SPEAKER_00 (37:27):
What was your favorite childhood meal?

SPEAKER_03 (37:29):
Straw hat pizza.

SPEAKER_01 (37:31):
Oh, yeah, they pizza me.
It's still there, too.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (37:33):
Because the shit is good.
You want to go after this?

SPEAKER_01 (37:35):
You know what?
You can't have no carbs rightnow.

SPEAKER_02 (37:39):
I'll drive.

SPEAKER_01 (37:40):
Did I tell you how much?
He was making salmon croquettesin the city.
I do want pizzas.
I can't have pizza.
He makes salmon croquettes inthe hotel.

SPEAKER_02 (37:48):
Wait, wait, hold on.
Hold on.
How the fuck do you make salmoncroquettes?

SPEAKER_01 (37:51):
Because it had the hot plate, but I was laughing
because we went up and the wholefloor just smelled like fish.
And I was like, oh, that's myfamily.
That's us.

SPEAKER_00 (38:00):
Okay, last question in the rapid fire, because we
done went way past what the helltime we were supposed to be in
keeping.
Anyway.
What was the strictest rule inyour house?

SPEAKER_01 (38:10):
The strictest?

SPEAKER_00 (38:12):
All of them.
My mom was strict as hell.
Damn.

SPEAKER_01 (38:16):
It's pretty tough as Lechkey.

SPEAKER_00 (38:18):
I had no freedom.

SPEAKER_01 (38:21):
That's it.
I feel like they can get on top.
I had no freedom in sh.

SPEAKER_00 (38:25):
Yeah, I would.
My mom was strict as hell.
I couldn't breathe.
I think my own.
She wished the fuck I wouldbreathe.

SPEAKER_02 (38:30):
I didn't really have it.
I didn't really have any strictrules.
I would say the only thing I'dsay is that you couldn't lie.
If you if you got caught in alie, that's it was it.
Like everything else can beexplained.
If you're honest about what youdid, we can work through it.
You're not gonna always get yourass beat unless it's egregious.
But if you lie, you're gettingyour ass beat just for lying.

SPEAKER_01 (38:47):
That is a big that was a big one.

SPEAKER_02 (38:48):
That's why I tell the truth now.
That's why I said don't ask me.

SPEAKER_00 (38:53):
So incredibly strict when I was growing up that I
like begged her to not be asstrict with Dominique, then she
let her ass be foot loose andfancy free.
First of all, calm down.

SPEAKER_02 (39:01):
So not too much of my girl though.

SPEAKER_00 (39:03):
No, Dominique is amazing.
I I say it every time.
And chance like every time I geta chance to, that girl is
amazing.
That girl got a good ass job andis in school and graduates in
the spring.
Okay, go beep.

SPEAKER_02 (39:14):
Congrats.

SPEAKER_00 (39:15):
Yeah, shout out to Dummy.
Is she adopted?
Is she what?

SPEAKER_02 (39:18):
If she adopt me, I'm gonna say adopts you.

SPEAKER_00 (39:20):
I'll have her ask her big ass boyfriend back.

SPEAKER_03 (39:23):
Yeah, that was a big one.
That was the rule that you can'topen the door.

SPEAKER_00 (39:26):
Don't open the door for nobody.
I wasn't able to give a rulebecause I wasn't gonna pause my
game anyway.

SPEAKER_02 (39:33):
If you had a key, you could get in.

SPEAKER_00 (39:36):
I wasn't supposed to open the door for nobody either,
but one time they came to myhouse to some kids came to my
house to fight me, and so I justlet Sarah next door open the
door.
Because that technically Ididn't open the door.

SPEAKER_02 (39:47):
And that's why you are who you are now.

SPEAKER_00 (39:49):
So I can so I can fight Amber.
Oh gosh.
Oh well, okay.

SPEAKER_03 (39:55):
Um mine was don't bring any shit here, because if
anything goes down, I know youwere behind it because you don't
follow nobody.
So that was the only way I couldget my ass whooped.
Was if I brought any shit homeor any bullshit to happen, he
knew that I was either behind itbecause I wasn't a follower.

(40:16):
So that was it.
I was pretty much free reign.

SPEAKER_01 (40:20):
He used your leadership against you?

SPEAKER_03 (40:22):
Yeah, but he I was free.
I didn't have uh that's notagainst him.

SPEAKER_01 (40:24):
That's like, nigga, if there's some shit, you did
it.

SPEAKER_03 (40:29):
But I didn't have like a strict be home curfew
type shit.
It was free reign.
It was just if there's any shitthat goes down, I know you're
behind it.

SPEAKER_02 (40:40):
Yeah.
I had to be home before dark,that's it.
But I never had a bedtime.

SPEAKER_01 (40:45):
Yeah, I don't know if I did because I was watching
motherfucking.
Well, that was your personal.
Everybody tell people tell meit's a great show, and I'm like,
I never would know.
I would never know.
When I heard that, soon.

SPEAKER_00 (41:00):
So time to go.

SPEAKER_03 (41:01):
Mary Well Children's Off.
Time to go.

SPEAKER_00 (41:03):
And speaking about mental health, because we're
gonna be wrapping up here soon.
In speaking about mental health,I'm gonna ask you three quick
rapid fire questions.
Sure.
Okay.
Um I just want you to justanswer with just the one word,
okay?
Damn.
Start with you.
So you can hurry up and be done.
Um, yes, it's me or uh NoMaurice.
Oh, yes, is him?

(41:23):
No, Maurice.
Melitho.
Um therapy or prayer?

SPEAKER_02 (41:28):
Therapy.

SPEAKER_03 (41:30):
Therapy.
Therapy.

SPEAKER_00 (41:33):
Therapy as well.
Journaling or venting?

SPEAKER_03 (41:37):
Venting.
I'm journaling.
I feel better venting.

SPEAKER_02 (41:42):
I do both.
Not nigga.

SPEAKER_01 (41:46):
She said one word.
She only said one word.
Okay.
Both.
Okay, say less.

SPEAKER_00 (41:52):
I do both.
Okay.
Now, do you thrive better incalm or chaos?

SPEAKER_01 (41:59):
Neither.

SPEAKER_00 (42:01):
Neither.

SPEAKER_01 (42:02):
You know what?
Honestly, I'm like chaos.
I'm like storm.
Oh, chaos.
One word.
You can say which.
Go ahead.
One word.
Like the hurricane, like a eyeof the storm.

SPEAKER_02 (42:13):
I find the cha the chaos makes me focus, the calm
makes me overthink.

SPEAKER_00 (42:17):
Yeah.
I thrive in in chaos becausethat's everything has always
been chaotic.
But I'm trying to condition mymind to be comfortable and calm.

SPEAKER_04 (42:29):
Okay.

SPEAKER_00 (42:31):
Shut the fish.

SPEAKER_03 (42:32):
Yeah, chaos will just have to be mine, just
default.

SPEAKER_01 (42:37):
You know what?

SPEAKER_00 (42:38):
Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 (42:39):
Yeah.
That was a funny thing withcomedy.
It's like it gets so good at uhcreating out of pain that when
you're happy, you're like, damn,I gotta figure out where can I
create some mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 (42:52):
Okay, let me ask you these ones legacy or lifestyle?

SPEAKER_02 (42:55):
Legacy.

SPEAKER_00 (42:57):
Legacy.

SPEAKER_01 (43:00):
I mean, I don't know.
Lifestyle, because that's gonnacreate your legacy.

SPEAKER_03 (43:04):
Yeah, lifestyle would have to concur.

SPEAKER_01 (43:09):
That's what I said, lifestyle.

SPEAKER_00 (43:10):
Okay.
Um, and then do you look atyourself as the mentor or the
student?

SPEAKER_01 (43:18):
I'm just a nigga.
Yeah, I was gonna say the samething.
We had the same wavelength onthat.

SPEAKER_00 (43:24):
We have two niggas in the building, or do we have a
third?

SPEAKER_01 (43:26):
I was like, Jay-Z, Lord, I'm a nigga first.

SPEAKER_03 (43:28):
I would I love to say I'm the student, but I'm
usually the mentor, so I wouldlove to be the student.

SPEAKER_00 (43:34):
I I think I'm the student.
And I think I thought I was thementor, but then I realized I
had a lot of shit I still needto learn myself.
I know you're not sure.
It depends on what you're in,though.
Do you do you do you know, youknow what?

SPEAKER_01 (43:47):
Welcome back.
You know what's coming, huh?
Uh wealth or peace?
Peace.
Peace.
Peace.
Oh, wealth.
Well, no, because we're nottalking money wealth.
We don't know what the wealth isof wealth.
It could be wealthy in peace.

SPEAKER_00 (44:07):
I want the wealth because I I swear to god, if I
had money right now, I'd be thefuck up out of here on the
street.
You mean riches?
I'd be out of here.

SPEAKER_01 (44:13):
Because you could be wealthy in love as well.

SPEAKER_00 (44:15):
I don't want that.

SPEAKER_01 (44:16):
You don't want love?

SPEAKER_00 (44:18):
I'm I'm cool.

SPEAKER_01 (44:20):
Damn, huh?
Give me give me the money.
I like it.
That's how you get rich.

SPEAKER_00 (44:26):
I'm I'm cool.

unknown (44:27):
I'm cool.

SPEAKER_01 (44:29):
I'm gonna go with yeah, wealthy.
Or not wealthy, uh wealthy,yeah.
That's what I said.
Sorry.
What'd you say?
I said peace.
I said wealth.

SPEAKER_00 (44:40):
Okay.
We're gonna we're gonna wrap up,but before we do, if you could
give advice to your 10-year-oldself, 10-year-old self that you
feel that they could carry onand be successful today, what
would that advice be?

SPEAKER_02 (44:56):
Beautiful big kitty woman don't fall off the sky.

SPEAKER_00 (44:58):
Get the fuck.

SPEAKER_01 (44:58):
Yeah, there ain't nothing I could tell 10-year-old
Kevin.
I was E D, I mean.
Apparently, I'm just bad.

SPEAKER_03 (45:08):
What advice?

SPEAKER_01 (45:09):
Yeah.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:10):
That at around 18 or 19, there's gonna be a crazy
chick that wants to hang outwith you.
Stay the fuck away from her.

SPEAKER_01 (45:16):
Oh, you're gonna give him four warnings.
Warnings, though.

SPEAKER_00 (45:26):
Try not to laugh.
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02 (45:28):
Um I would just tell them that uh happiness doesn't
always equal money.
So the pursuit of money doesn'twon't make you happy.
Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (45:40):
But that's hard for me because it's like 10.
What the fuck am Icomprehending?

SPEAKER_02 (45:45):
A lot.

SPEAKER_00 (45:45):
A lot is gonna grow fast.
Yeah.
I would tell myself you?

SPEAKER_01 (45:50):
10-year-old me, I know what I was doing.

SPEAKER_00 (45:52):
So probably something bad.
Uh I would tell myself to um totake your health seriously.
Physically and mentally.
Especially mentally.
The older you get, shut the fm.
The older you get, um the harderit is to get either of those on

(46:13):
the right track.
So I would say start now takingyour health seriously, maybe
play some sports.
Yeah.
And and uh, you know, take thatvery, very seriously.

SPEAKER_02 (46:23):
What sports would you would you have played?

SPEAKER_00 (46:26):
Um in school, to be honest with you, I wanted to be
a cheerleader.
My mom didn't let me.

SPEAKER_02 (46:31):
And sound like you should have been boxing.

SPEAKER_00 (46:33):
I I wanted to box.
This like true story, I wantedto box, and I and I told my mom
this when I was in junior highschool, and my junior high
school principal was like, ifyou let her box and she came to
school continuing to hit all thestudents, we we you she going to
jail.
So don't even let her.
So my mom kept saying, I'm notfinna give you new ways to hit
the kids.
So she wouldn't let me box.
Dominique wanted to box too, andI think that was the biggest

(46:56):
dick's big the biggestdisservice that my mom ever did
for me and Dominique.
I know I heard it too.
I said it, okay?
I heard it.

SPEAKER_03 (47:07):
But biggest you got you guys heard dick service?
I did.
That's a good one.

SPEAKER_01 (47:13):
No, the biggest dick service.

SPEAKER_00 (47:17):
Okay, look, now we know what's what's currently on
my mind.
Biggest disservice that my momcould have ever done because I
think it would have given usboth um more balance.
I I think if I knew that if Ihit somebody that my my hands
were gonna be like I was I wasgonna jail, I probably wouldn't
hit nobody.

(47:37):
So just shit.

SPEAKER_03 (47:41):
You could have said would you say it would be
purping dick?

SPEAKER_00 (47:46):
Shut the fuck up.
Okay.
All right.
Okay, put your fucking tongue inpark.
Okay.
I'm a rapper.

SPEAKER_03 (47:53):
What can I say?
Muckbame McCoy.

SPEAKER_00 (47:55):
Yeah, I think she should let us box, both of us,
both of us, because now that I'mI don't know which one of us is
worse.
I think Dominique is calmer thanme now, and it used to be vice
versa, but now I think she'scalmer than me.
But my mom should havedefinitely let us both box.
Don't put nothing negative on mygirl daughter.
Ain't no, I never say anythingnegative about Dominique.

(48:16):
Like, I I tell you, for like thethe first time in like forever,
me and Dominique, we bickeredlike a couple like a few months
ago.
And I know you was wrong.
I was, and I'm not even, I'mnot, I I never front on my
sister.
I do not care.
I was wrong.
I was wrong.
I'll never front on her and makeit seem like she did something
she didn't do.
So we we what?

SPEAKER_03 (48:35):
I was gonna say just don't let your past dick take
your future.

SPEAKER_00 (48:38):
You get stuck by dick.
How about that?
Damn, how about that?
A backpack for you, nigga.
Um about that.
Um but we couldn't even stay madat each other for 10 minutes.
No, let's hear a nigga bitch.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh okay.

(48:59):
Leave me alone.
Thank you very much.
What I'm saying is we wecouldn't even be mad at each
other for five minutes.
Like, I I love my sister.
I don't ever say nothingnegative, but don't do shit
negative.

SPEAKER_03 (49:09):
It's the I feel like this place is becoming a
dictatorship.

SPEAKER_00 (49:12):
Oh my God.

SPEAKER_01 (49:13):
Be competitive.

SPEAKER_00 (49:15):
Be competitive.
I like that.
I like that.

SPEAKER_01 (49:19):
Well, I probably would play baseball if I was
fucking competitive.
I was just I would just outthere.

SPEAKER_00 (49:24):
And you're tall, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 (49:26):
Like once I figured out I'm an athlete, I was like,
damn, they just let me waste allthat shit.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (49:31):
You know the best rappers?
Those that learn the dictionary.

SPEAKER_00 (49:36):
Well, we do want to thank you guys for watching
another episode of theHeavyweight Podcast.
As always, like, subscribe,share, comment, all that shit.
And thank you.
And peace.
Cause I'm tired.
Whoopty-doo.
Okay.
And if Dennis is tired, whooptyfucking doo.
Whatever.
You need to add that whoopty-dooto the little thing, cause that

(49:58):
shit is hilarious, nigga.
That trip.
Are we out?

SPEAKER_01 (50:02):
Weopy.
That's rent.
You know, that's that's moofyroom.
So click flex.

SPEAKER_00 (50:14):
Until next time.
Well at you.
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