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Ever feel like the universe is trying to tell you something?

This episode dives straight into the moments that make us question logic—near-misses, meaningful dreams, unexpected wisdom, and life-changing signs. The crew shares real experiences that shaped how they see fate, destiny, and spirituality.

Raw stories. Honest beliefs. Big questions.
 Let’s talk about it.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The message behind saying the title of the
Heavyweight Podcast is to beable to say that we can weigh in
on some heavy shit.
What we're talking about isimportant from every aspect of
it.
It's a heavy weight.
It's not just about physicalweight, but the weight of things
that can weigh our minds.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation.
See if I remember this.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, I mean hey, you know what's good.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
This is episode two oh five of the heavyweight
podcast.
I am your right now Anti-socialhost studder McFly back again
with these two guys.
Go ahead and state your namefor the beautiful people out.
Cheer.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's your boy up three pounds more lethal oh.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh, okay, I'm just Kevin Wendell today Up three
pounds.
No, I'm going to be Kevin Ellis.
Kevin.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Ellis, kevin Ellis, yeah, respect.

Speaker 3 (00:56):
Do you know who you are for real?

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Nah.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
How are your weeks?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
It was good till I came this niggas off of 4th of
July and I gained weight, heythat's not my fault, I just made
me pause.
I mean, the week was good,except for the motherfucker that
stole my cup.
Y'all saw me post about it.
Other than that it was good,good week.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
I'm sorry, I'm not laughing at that stole my
goddamn cup.

Speaker 3 (01:31):
Bitch ass, nigga.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
I'm just when I catch you, whoop your ass.
I'm in that vein of it'spossible that it's just a
mistake.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
I can totally.
I guess if it was some gymequipment I'd totally see it
being theft.
But I think somebody literallythought oh, this is my cup.
And then they're like thisain't my cup.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Nah, nigga took my shit.
We fighting.
They just like the flavor, thatmuch.
We fighting.
They wanted my cup because itwas all black.
Oh, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 (02:03):
They don't make more of those.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
It's a good week, man , getting ready to leave.
That's it.
My brain went black.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
He said it was all black.
I was like what was it?
Ennett Hennessy.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
That'd be a hell of a pre-workout.
Yeah, man, we're just gettingready to leave, we're getting
ready for camp, ready to gowatch my hopefully watch my baby
fulfill her dreams and comeback a little bit stronger and
better than what she was whenshe left nice, that's it man
very nice, enjoy that yeah, it'sgonna be, I'm not, it's money.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, yeah, but it's gonna be a little hot.
Oh yeah, definitely that's butit's going to be a little hot.
Oh yeah, definitely that's cool.
Definitely Mine was shit a lot.
It felt like actually it was alot.
I started school again,congrats.

Speaker 3 (02:54):
Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Hold on, hold, on, hold, on hold on yeah and work
and all that shit.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
It's like, I feel like.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Damn yeah, I just won't be home a shit.
It's like a feeling Damn yeah,I just want to be home a lot.
It's cool, you need somecocaine, nah, man, then I won't
have.
That's the point of going toschool Like I ain't got no money
.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
You got a castle to keep you up, boss.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I got to smoke some meat.

Speaker 3 (03:20):
Whoa.

Speaker 1 (03:21):
And yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
It's funny because under the heat too, I was under
the assumption that you get halfcredit for the, for the, for
the meat falls why would I gethalf credit?
Because your wife said I had afire tender your wife said she
did most of the work.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
If she, I figured she would say that, but she did.
The easiest part of it was like, hey, just put another log on
if it gets too hot, I'll comedown and I'll fix it.
Or then I showed her how to.
Just all you gotta do is movethese flaps and she got it there
.
But I got it to the temperatureand seasoned it and you know

(04:08):
how women is.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
You give, give a man shit, take him out.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
I blame you, america why you blame America cause it
fucked up my mental status andthought process.
The shit I hear smoked beetsand I think fucking foul shit.
I blame you.
Smoked meat is foul.
My brain took it there.
If you go back, when he saidsmoked meat, I shifted that way
because I was like what the fuck?
Why did my brain take it there?

(04:31):
Cassie's not in the room.
Cassie's not in the room.
Well, she ain't gotta be in theroom.
I'm just saying man.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, no, I just want to know where you took it.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was hanging out here smoking meats.
Whoa, I'm curious Because I'mlike Like my brain just took it
there.
I don't know, fucking it'sfucked up.
Niggas out here smoking meatsnow.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
Fuck.
Oh, that's funny, your weeklyfire.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
For the fourth.
I've said this before, mysister don't really switch up
nothing.
So I didn't gain any weight.
So I just hung out, let thekids enjoy their day and I stuck
to my diet.
It wasn't that hard, see, Iain't the only one.

(05:25):
But uh, yeah.
And then, like I told thembefore I started, I fuck around.
I went to the gym on the fourthand they were hooping and I
took every day.
I tried.
I have a magnesium andpotassium supplements I take to
for crampsamps because I get badleg cramps I have since high

(05:50):
school but apparently you're notsupposed to take potassium on
an empty stomach and I didn'tknow that.
I learned that that also helpedwith sticking to my diet.
And then shout out to Des,who's not here today um, she uh
requested a song, so I did afreestyle over a particular beat

(06:11):
because she requested it.
And um, I did that shit in 20minutes flex should we?

Speaker 3 (06:17):
should we give a psa?

Speaker 2 (06:18):
why do you have to gun show?

Speaker 3 (06:19):
don't take potassium on an empty stomach no that you
know, des is still part of thepodcast yeah, oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, she's still part of the podcast she just had
she has important things.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
She has some personal matters to take care of, which
we understand.
We wish her all the best andshe has our support yeah, no, oh
, yeah, that's.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah.
I thought that was like no shit.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, they think something else but yeah, um but
yeah, she had requested afreestyle, so I did a freestyle.
I figured it would upliftspirits in that moment, so I I
figured I'd take time out of myday and, yes, I was throwing up,
so you owe me 599, um.
Anywho free 99, let's get tothe shenanigan of shenanigans.

(07:03):
One time he gonna shenanigan and, as you guys know, when I do
questions it usually comes fromshit that's happening in my day
or my week, and some shithappened that I told Mo at some
point and I was like I'mconvinced that sometimes shit
just there's a sign in thefucking air.
So, um, can you guys share amoment in your life where you

(07:27):
felt like something was beyondexplanation?
Was that play?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
A specific moment.
There's a lot of moments.
I honestly feel like thathappens like on, like a regular,
like I just look at certainthings, well shit.
I'll use like examples of I'llgo back to like.
I still remember like this inArizona I don't know how this

(07:57):
happened, it might be becausethe guy who was in the car was
with me was he was going toschool to be a preacher, so
maybe that's why we were cool.
But I just remember hearingtires screech and then I hear a
bang right behind me and then,no shit, the car wraps around us
and then hits the car in frontof me and I was like what the

(08:18):
fuck?
Like wait, wait, wait.
How do we miss this wholeaccident?
This had to be something else,I don't know.
Like shit like that, like likethe matrix or something like
when you saw the whole shit.
I mean, when you see the thingshappening you're like, yeah,
when you see a car about to hit,you kind of go nigga, this is,

(08:39):
that's it, that's it.
But it wasn't so, like I don'tknow, that's not, that don't
feel normal to me.
Like when I bought that truck Ihad going, uh, the 60 on moval
to moval I saw a suburban suvjust slowly it wasn't slow

(09:02):
probably to them start flipping,and then it flipped and then
just start sliding at me while Iwas coming the other way and I
was like, well, I, okay, shit,this is it.
I just bought this truck andthat's how it goes.
And then the motherfucker hitthe wall, like the little, you
know, that little ass barrier onthe 60, hit that motherfucker
and just bounced and went theother way and like the glass hit

(09:24):
my window and I was like OK,let me pull over, because I
think I'm supposed to callsomebody at this point.
But things like that to me are Idon't know if that's just
coincidence or luck or what, butthat's, I don't know I got to
take advantage, try to takeadvantage.

(09:45):
I get feel like that with allthe things we have happened with
, like just buying the house orlike shit wasn't.
So you're like this ain'tlooking good and then you're
like wow, that happened out ofnowhere, like so, yeah, yeah, I
feel like constantly something'swatching someone's.
I don't know, I don't know howit works, but it ain't me.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
I felt like every extreme, stressful or emotional
situation I've been in has beensome early, some otherworldly
type shit.
It's some shit that has forcedme to evolve in one way or
another.
Or you know, because it seemslike when I was reflecting on
this shit I was like it seemslike shit always happens when I

(10:28):
get comfortable or when I thinkI got shit figured out.
Oh, you mean like something,something happens and then my
whole plan shifts, my wholementality shifts.
You know, I can go back to theaccident last year.
Like I was on the grind and mymain focus was just hey man,
maintain, maintain, get money,maintain, get money, maintain,

(10:48):
get money.
Then that happened and then Igot.
I got.
I had the time to deal with myinner demons and my personal
troubles and my and my worriesand I got a chance to build a
better connection with my, withmy family, and to become a
better person and to get to getinto therapy.
So that, like that I the honestreality is, is that had that not
happened, I wouldn't be who Iam today and and I I do think

(11:12):
that that was, in the long run,it has been for the better.
The same thing Like when mywife told me she was pregnant.
Like that that started to grindbecause, like, like I told you
before I I wouldn't have nohouse, I didn't have no kid on
the way, like I was comfortableman, I was living it up.
Yeah, I lived in the hood, theyweren't fucking with me, so I,

(11:32):
I didn't care, so I just feltlike there's any time there's
been what can be seen as adisruption in my life, or anchor
point to where I've been forcedto either evolve or mature.
I feel like that.
That's some other power stuffgoing on.
Tell you how you've been.
You've been complacent for toolong.

(11:53):
It's time to.
It's time to get.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
Get after it, do it yeah, pushing, you um, it's
funny you said a car accident,because I remember, I remember I
was driving on I want to saywas adams and I got off one exit

(12:20):
too early because you knowadams and then it's van buren.
So I got off at one exit tooearly off the 91 and I had my
friend Travis in the car at thetime and I realized I got off
exit too soon.
I was like fuck, I'm gonna justcontinue on to the hesitate.
So I hesitated and um, it was,which is why I take that shit at

(12:51):
work, that one, two, threestart to lay up like to heart.
I hesitated and didn't move andI, no shit.
A car shot right past us, ranthat red light fast as hell, and
I remember thinking, fuck, if Ihadn't just it was just
something that said just wait,don't just take off, right when

(13:13):
it turned green, wait, and sureenough.
Just, I never had that feelingbefore until then.
And if that car would have hitus, it's over.
At the speed he was going.
Yeah, and I just went, fuck,like that could have turned out
completely different.
But just, I always try to payattention to the signs, but that

(13:33):
one in particular just reallymade me be like, yeah, man, just
pay attention to things, likeyou get a gut feeling or you get
like this weird sense thatsomething's not right or don't
feel right.
Pay attention to why, and thatthat in that moment I was just
like, yeah, that that saved ourlives and um, like Maurice, what

(13:55):
you pointed out, I had aninstance where I was down out I
felt like shit and um, I keptthinking what was the the point?
And I remember I was walkinginto a blockbuster.
Just how long ago, if it saidyou're walking in a blockbuster?
And I walked out and there wasa homeless man with one leg and

(14:18):
I looked at him and he justlooked thankfully alive, and it
just made me be like, payattention to the signs, because
it'll it'll put shit inperspective for you and um, so,
yeah, I I don't know if it'sspiritual or just coincidence,
but I always pay attention tosigns and try to take them for
what they're meant to representor send a message about.
So, moving on, was there anevent or experience that made

(14:43):
you question if there's more toreality than what we actually
see?

Speaker 3 (14:51):
I think every time my child says something she
shouldn't know, like how do youknow this?
Like, how do you have thisinformation?
Before I was able to teach you,like, where does insight come
from?
Because it's like it's almostto the.
Because it's like it's almostto the point.
Where it's like it's like theuniverse is telling me something

(15:12):
through her.
Because it's like, oh, if shesays something crazy enough,
where it's like this is weirdthat you know this.
Now I'm like pondering what yousaid.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Or it's.
I guess, reflex enough that youactually believe it.
So the message being sentthey're like well, if she says
it to him he might actually takewhat the fuck we're trying to
tell her.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
Oh, this is some.
Why aren't you seven, like what?

Speaker 1 (15:37):
so yeah, yeah, that's , yeah, that happens.
I don't know, growing up withthe way fucking all these old
ass grandparents were with shitWatching all of the unsolved
mysteries and shit Telling alltheir stories, used to fuck with

(15:59):
me.
As I got older.
That sounds weird.
I think I've told y'all that,uh, as I got older um, I, that
sounds weird.
I think I've told y'all that Ithink it was shrooms or that
shit.
Like it was no shit, like dejavu, but not deja vu.
It was like time warp shit,like I was talking to somebody

(16:20):
but I didn't talk to them.
It this had happened while Iwas by myself and then it really
happened and I was like, nah,nigga, something's not like this
weird.
But I don't know.
I've always felt like, yeah,there's way more than just this
parallel.
So I don't know what instanceit would be or anything like

(16:44):
that, but growing up, themniggas make me look at all that
shit.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
I think a deja vu always feels like there was a
glitch in the major.
Yeah, that makes sense Becauseyou'll see it like damn it.
I've lived this before.
What the fuck is going on?
That happened to me like twoweeks ago.
I was like what the fuck?
I know I lived this already.
But when I think of a specificinstance where I knew something,
honestly, it's, I think, thedream I had with my dad the day

(17:28):
that we were going to bury him.
I had a dream that morning andhe came to me and just hung out
with me and then he just said,well, like he kind of said it in
a phrase to where it was kindof like the realization, like
well, I got to go, but kind oflike the whole message was to
put me at ease or at peace.

(17:49):
And the same thing happenedwith the drawer.
Like it's just that weird thingwhere it's like they come to
you to just say goodbye, but ina way where they want, want you
to maybe process it.
But it don't feel like a dream,it feels like a, like a real,
like some message is meant to besent because they knew that I
was going to take it hard as faras them passing.

(18:11):
So, yeah, that was because Idon't feel like that was a dream
, I feel like it was truthfully,just the message meant to be
sent to me and I was like thisshit can't, because I don't.
I'm not, I'll say it.
I'm not a religious person.
I'm definitely spiritual to adegree, but it's usually when I
it's what I pay attention tothat that makes me feel that way
.
So I definitely think those aremessages meant to be student

(18:34):
and that even now I always talkabout this in the house.
I mean, granted, our couple ofour neighbors might partake in
weed, but there's too manyinstances where I wake up and I
get this strong smell of weed inmy house and I look around and
I'm like there's nothing aroundhere weed related.
And I was like this is my dadtalking to me?
He's letting me know he'saround.

(18:55):
When did you first startnoticing signs or messages that
felt directed at you?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Oh, I feel like I'm going through that shit like
right now for like the past twoyears, probably going to sound
like a psychopath, but I keepseeing the same number for the
same fucking two years, likeit's crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (19:19):
number it's the 333.
It's the.

Speaker 3 (19:22):
Oh, that's not a lot of number.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
I mean you could's the three, three, three it's uh,
oh, that's not a lot of number.
I mean you could play the dailythree and like I was looking
that up but I was like it's likeno shit, it's not like I'm
trying to do it or anything,like I would wake up at that
time every day, like for a while, and then I would just be like
doing shit and like, oh, let mesee what time it is before I go
do this.
Oh god damn, that's weird.
Or like I'll fill my car up andit would just be like doing

(19:43):
shit and like, oh, let me seewhat time it is before I go do
this.
Oh God damn, that's weird.
Or like I would fill my car upand it would just stop at that,
or I would do all these thingsand it's just like, oh, and then
when you look it up, it's likethey say that's to telling you
take a risk.
Like you're cool, take a risk,you got shit on your side, you
got something watching youangels or whatever watching you.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
So I don't know, don't skydive.
I've already done that.
No, you're talking to.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I think, like you said,the signs are, just there's too
many for me to pinpoint, becauseit's like how you said when you
come out of Blockbuster andthat's there, you're like okay,
yeah, okay, my bad.

Speaker 2 (20:33):
It'll slap the shit out of you in that moment Like,
hey, motherfucker, look.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Like anything we have going on with me and Amanda.
We just kind of know to liketrust.
What's there?

Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Like we've had issues where you're like, hey, it's
worked out before, it'll workout now.
Just look at what you got to do, we'll see it.
And then it comes and it's kindof nuts how it works.
It feels divine, as they say.
Yeah, dude.

(21:07):
Shut the fuck up.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
It can't help it.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
I'll just say for me man, I think similar to Kevin.
I'm not seeing shit um, but yougotta say it when, um, when I'm
unconsciously obsessed withsomething like when, even when

(21:37):
it, even when I'm trying tofocus on something else, it, it
keeps creeping back into myconscience and and it's like no,
you need to focus.
This is where your focus shouldbe.
That's why I take it oh, Ishould be focused on this.
Like man, like I was tellingyou, for the past week I've been
feeling, like about the podcastand stuff.
I'm like how about reallytransitioning as far as away
from the other place as much aspossible?

(21:58):
Like that's been something that, like it's been, my
subconscious has been obsessingabout, and I feel I take that as
a direct sign like, no, youneed to, you need to pour your
energy and your focus in thisand you need to see um, see it
through.
I think that that, that, thatthat's one way.
And then another thing, similarto what you're saying, also
about um, about the dreams youhad, like I, I get.

(22:21):
I have noticed that every everyonce in a while, like when I
get down on myself or I feellike, um, I felt like I don't
really have a path or thingsaren't going too great.
Those are the times where I doget the dreams about my
grandparents, like, I canremember um vividly.
This was like last, um, last,last, last November.

(22:44):
This was like last um last,last, last November.
I was, like you know, stilldealing with the depression, all
that stuff, and I remember, um,I had, I had this one dream
where literally, I woke up and Iwas in Carson and I was in the
backyard and I looked around andmy grandparents were there and
mom was there and, um, I hadcousins and stuff there and

(23:08):
we're, and like, I had cousinsthere and I knew they were there
because they were saying youknow, I could hear the names, I
can hear the voices, but I couldonly see my grandparents face
and I literally, like, spent thewhole day just talking to my
grandfather and I couldn't Iknew I was talking but I
couldn't hear him Right, and soI took that as a sign of like
you're not listening, like I'mtrying to tell you something but

(23:30):
you're not listening, and Ithink that's when I started to
actually come up out of thestate I was in.
I remember that.
So I think I do like there hasbeen moments where I was like,
yeah, do like.
There has been moments where Ilike, yeah, this has to be, like
, this is, this was meant for me, like I I need to, because you
know, a lot of times you getinto your head and you, you get.
Oh, I mean, I speak for mepersonally.
I get to that point where I'mso obsessed with the problems

(23:54):
that I can't see the solutionsbecause I'm not allowing myself
to see them, and I think that'swhat.
Like, hey, man, like thesolution is there, you gotta got
to get past the problem For me.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
I feel like certain things directed me and it comes
in so many different forms, butI know it seems like there's
always a message towards meabout creating and it'll either
come from a dream, or it'lleither come from a dream or
it'll come from an unlikely orunexpected messenger, like it'll

(24:33):
be a random stranger orsomebody you haven't talked to
in a long time.
That'll just randomly pop upand be like hey, keep doing this
.
And you're like where the fuckdid you come from?
I haven't talked to you and orit'd be a random stranger that's
losing.
You're like what the fuck Like?
And they'll just kind of say amessage, almost like someone
came to them, told them I needyou to deliver this because it

(24:54):
coming from you will be way morebelievable than coming from me.
And um, and it's.
It's usually for creating,especially like with music.
It'll be some person I hadn'ttalked to in a long time.
That'll just be like man,remember that one song you did
and that made me feel like thisand you're like shit, I didn't

(25:14):
know.
You felt that way and it justfelt like it needed to be said,
just so I could hear it, and itfelt like somebody else was at
work or something else was atwork to deliver the message.
So I would understand that orin a way that I would value it.
And I noticed when you say thatlike, I keep having constant

(25:37):
dreams too of my dad, and it'llbe usually like in ways where
he's trying to help me in thedream and I'm sitting there
talking to him, as if in thedream I haven't understood or
comprehended that he's not alive, but throughout the entire
dream he's just trying to helpme through whatever situation is
going on in the dream, up withthe realization that I knew the

(26:03):
whole time he wasn't alive.
But it was almost like it was away to connect me to just the
understanding that even in deathhe has my back, like, so I feel
like he does come to me inthose times where I do feel like
, hey, like I don't even knowI'm not there, I'm there so.

(26:25):
And then it doesn't help thatthere's a weird scratching, that
the like along the walls scaresthe fuck out of me.
Hey, anybody want to buy ahouse in winchester anyway?
Anyway, like there's a weirdlike, there's like a scraping,
like dude, like I'm like he betelling me he got some weird
shit going in this house.
I'm like the scraping of thewall, like I'm telling you, it

(26:48):
would be nothing.
I was the dogs.
It ain't the dogs?

Speaker 1 (26:51):
hey, nigga what you doing.
Hey, if you're gonna be here, Igotta be here too, because I
ain't selling this shit.
That should be shit.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Uh, so what exactly happened during the experience
that you can talk to?
Uh, we already get that.
God damn it.
I didn't realize.
I have follow-ups because, likeI put it in a weird form.
Anyway, looking back, do youthink that there was a message
or lesson intended for you?
Uh, yeah, yeah yeah, what wasthe lesson?

Speaker 3 (27:28):
the uh.
I think for me recently thelesson was um, it's, it's time
to heal yourself and um, it'sfunny because like I had the
whole thing like um, like uh,with my last therapy session and
she was saying like, basicallysaying how I was coping and

(27:51):
distracting Right, and she saidcoping and distracting is good
tools in the moment, so youdon't let the emotions overwhelm
you.
But as long as you're copingand distracting, you're not
healing, you're just, you'rejust putting off the, the work.
So I think for me recently itlike, like, I said like what the
thing?

(28:11):
Last year?
It was just me, it was like theevent that forced me to do the
work.
It was like it was like cause,think about it in the context of
you know, I was working, youknow, 50, 60 hours a week.
So I go from working 50, 60hours a week to now having 50,

(28:32):
60 hours to myself to just thinkI'm forced to do the work, I'm
forced to be in my thoughts.
You know what I'm saying.
So there was no, there'snowhere I could go for that long
and not have to think aboutshit and start working through
it.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
So yeah, oh, I'm sorry, I was thinking message
yeah, absolutely Lesson.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
Damn.
You said message.
I thought oh message.

Speaker 1 (29:06):
I feel like message to me is I'm here for a reason,
there's something, so keep ondoing.
I guess what I'm doing, but thelesson I don't know.
I'm trying to figure that out.
I think I'm trying to figurethat out.
I think I'm trying to figurethat out, so I don't know if

(29:30):
I've accomplished the.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
Well, the.
Thing about.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Like the thing about lessons.
They have many talking points.

Speaker 1 (29:39):
Well, no lessons throughout the day.
Shit, yeah, fuck, yeah, well,no lessons throughout the day.
Shit, yeah, fuck yeah.
A lot of breathing in shit,having little kids make you you
got to talk to yourself.
You know what that's a kid?
That's a kid.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
I want to choke her, but I can't.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Well, like just the whole bigger thing, like the
whole god damn it pause, I think, the whole lesson grand scheme.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I'm just being honest Andre3000 stacks, I feel like the

(30:23):
lesson being honest.

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Andre 3000 Stacks.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
I feel like the lesson that I constantly have
been going through is the Iguess it's the believing in
myself part, and there's alwayslike a lesson that's happening
to be like see, if you wouldhave believed in yourself, this

(30:48):
shit wouldn't want that way.
So it's like, even with likethe, the, the, the weight loss,
and, and, and and, trying tolearn it it's.
It's one of those things whereyou keep getting kind of thrown
off track because life willthrow you things.
So you start saying what's thefucking point of that when I got
this shit to worry about?
So, like, the constant lessonis that I keep being presented

(31:13):
is stop allowing the things thatconstantly keep happening to
derail progress.
Like, say, fuck it.
Like it, things in life aregoing to keep happening, but you
can't let that change the factthat you still need to do this
over here.
So like, stop making that theexcuse to why you can't keep
keep progressing.
And I keep learning that andit's like, and it comes in

(31:35):
different uh messages and andand and lessons, but it's the
same message being brought forthstop looking like, stop
allowing things to derail yourprogress, just stay the course.
And stop allowing things tocome in and just throw a monkey
wrench into it, because theshit's gonna always happen, but

(31:56):
you just gotta kind of say fuckit.
So I think that lesson keepsbeing drilled into my head.
And there's another lesson.
I'm known too well at thesemcdonald's last night I took the
kids to get something to eat.
And the chick said stutter,she's like how you doing tonight

(32:19):
, man.
And I said what the?
I come here too often that theyknow.
And then at the otherMcDonald's because there's two
of them they know my car, sothey go.
Oh, when I saw the tell youride, I knew it was you player.
I saw the lights.
I said you know, I come heretoo often.
So the lesson I'm learningthere is these kids are spoiled
as fuck and I'm the enabler.

Speaker 3 (32:44):
Yeah, spoiled, spoiled as fuck.
And.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
I'm the enabler, yeah , shit.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
That's a lesson I learned as a parent.
Oh yeah, I'm not going to.
I've learned that as a fatherand a husband.
I said this is my goddamncreation.
I didn't know I was making abad for myself.

Speaker 1 (33:01):
If I could go back in time I'd change this shit.
I would just make more money,that's it.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
So, as you've been given these lessons and direct
direct messages, did this changeyour trajectory towards the
choices that you're making now?
No, in life most definitely canyou elaborate certain things
that you, besides I know youknow, uh, last year and dealing

(33:34):
with things and and the healthand the and the, the working out
, I I see it personally,especially when we talk now,
like you're, you have a focus,but but outside of that, like,
are there any other things thatyou Like I said, my focus is on
my overall health or the youknow, like you're saying, mental

(33:55):
or physical, and aboutaccumulating enough business to
where, eventually, I get to thepoint to where the business does
enough for me.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
That's been my whole motivation and my motivation has
been to just really startbuilding the empire that I can
leave something behind that isgoing to do well even once I
step back, type situation, andalso to do it also to kind of,

(34:27):
you know, create them spaces anddoing things I enjoy doing.
That's been the focus, likebecause along the journey is,
you know, part of the journeyand part of the healing is you
got to find what makes you happy, and so I've been trying to
lean into what makes me happy,and so the more I lean into what
makes me happy, the lean intowhat makes me happy, and so the
more I lean into what makes mehappy, the more I'm, the more

(34:49):
the less of a burden it is.
The more happy you are.
Yeah, yeah.
And but then again, like I washaving you know shout out to Des
, I was having a conversationwith Des and I said I don't like
this shit.
I'm too nice to people now, soI'm I gotta start cussing niggas
out again.

Speaker 2 (35:02):
That's absurd, that's .

Speaker 3 (35:03):
I gotta start cussing , I gotta, yeah, let that go nah
, nah, nah, cause they don'tthink I'm like you, kevin, they
don't think I'm sweet see thatyou did it like it was a
backhanded way.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
You see that.
You see that shit they don'tthink I'm sweet they just gonna
do it in a backhanded way, yeahwhere's the?
I.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
I'm too nice.
Now let me take a shot realquick.
Like what the fuck?
You know how it is.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
We got two different definitions no, I'm just saying,
but, like like I was saying,man, I lean towards the thing I
invest most of my time andenergy, towards things that make
me happy.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
That's good, yeah, I think what I got is my time and
energy and towards things thatmake me happy.
Yeah, I think what I got isjust keep going, stay the course
, don't, don't stop.
I want to follow through,finish things up, not start and
not finish.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Well, let me know you're done, because I got a
panel that needs to be replaced.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Oh, A whole panel, yeah, a whole panel.
Like the wires too.

Speaker 3 (36:12):
No, no, no, I was like nigga, you might have to.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I'm not going to that school.

Speaker 2 (36:17):
Once you're finished, you and Patrick should get
together and make a business andcall it Two Navy Niggas.

Speaker 1 (36:23):
Two Navy Niggas, because we might not be able to
get that through that, twoseamen they might not let that
one through the copy right,those seamen what y'all talking
about.
Oh Lord, Diddy got off right.
That's what they be thinking.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Electric niggas.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
We could take the niggas off.
Yeah, that works electric.
Yeah, that's perfect, that'sactually perfect.
Um trick I know no, you, youalways see, I thought you was
nice that was a question, butit's to see things through man,

(37:07):
and I think I can do all thethings.
I just don't know.
I've never tried Electric asssweat.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
No.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
My ass sweat is just going to be.

Speaker 3 (37:21):
I'm saying you can put it together.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
I'm going to just start wearing ass sweat shirts
in here out of nowhere.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
While you do your electric engine, you could be
doing electrician stuff with asssweat gear on now we're gonna
put electric on the shirts.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
We're gonna look professional.
Can't be in there with asssweat.
We're not plumbers.
You don't put your ass out.
Are you wearing jumpsuits orjust?

Speaker 2 (37:42):
I mean you could change the game do you?

Speaker 1 (37:45):
it depends on what you're working on.
Depends on what you're workingon.

Speaker 2 (37:47):
Depends on what you're working on the only
electricians that give youplumbers crack are we talking
like the block?

Speaker 1 (38:02):
stay the course, though.
Put it all in and see what itlooks like.
Maybe it depends, all right.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
Uh, I feel like right now this has been the most
focused I've been, and it's the,the trying to pay attention to
the signs and and and remindingmyself each time I feel like

(38:32):
going back to old habits.
It's, it's the I keep tellingmyself I'm too, too dope to let
it happen again.
So, and like Mo pointed out,it's low, subtle little ways of
finding the ways to make dothings for me.
So, like I do a lot of thingsfor me now that I never did

(38:54):
before.
And if you pay attention to myInstagram, you'll notice that I
like shoes, and so basketballshoes, so I like playing in
different shoes.
I like how you emphasize it.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
I like how you, you emphasize I'm not here by Stacey
, no but I like basketball shoes.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
So I like the hoop and I like having different.
Like I say, every shoe puts mein a different headspace when
I'm playing.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh, yeah, you my Euro stepping nigga, yeah, and then
the knees.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
I might, oh man, oh yeah, you might euro step a
nigga yeah and then then theyuse somebody.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Oh man, this nigga had them Kobe's yesterday at the
gym, the um, the high top ones,the purple and gold ones, and I
was like, nigga, if you takethose off they're gone and you
mad at somebody taking yourshaker you can't find those, no
more, you take them.
I said, oh, you know the onethat had the big ass mumbles,

(39:50):
yeah.
I said oh, you take those off,I'm taking them.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
But yeah, just staying the course and doing
things in the moment that I feellike sparks creativity.
Because I know, kevin, youpointed out to me but I used to
do it sporadically, now I do itall the time.
I just be like you know what Ifeel like rapping, and I'll just
pull my, my laptop out, mymicrophone and just rap right
there on the spot, or, uh, withyou, like I just make random

(40:19):
content when I feel like it,like I might not post everything
, I just make random contentjust to be like, well, maybe
I'll just keep this in the tuck.
And then it's just one of thethings where, when creativity
sparks now, I take advantage ofit, when before I used to be
like maybe down the line I'llget to it, and it's like no,
just create it right now andjust leave it.
Like, even if you don't use it,just leave it and then maybe
compound onto it later and justkeep adding.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Get some of these.
If I got somebody, I'd be introuble.
You know how much shit is onthese.
That are just not that.
But I've recorded so much shiton here I'll be talking to
myself like this probably ain'tnever gonna see the light of day
, so I'm basically talking tomyself that's most of my day,
with or without somethingrecording and the words it does.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
She said something.
She was talking to the realestnigga, you know.
I said yeah, that works yeah soI just yeah, but it's just
staying the course, and anytimecreativity hits I take it.
Um, even if it's not receivedlike that, it's for me it's like
a way to just express and ventand get it out.
It's like that therapy in a lotof ways.

(41:26):
So, but now I feel like I feellike I'm in the best mental
state that I've been in a longtime and I smile a lot more.
So that's something.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
That's good.
I got a question for youBecause you was talking about
people coming up and askingabout music.
I want to know if you ever hadsomebody come up and say hey,
man, that song did all this forme.
He was like Nick, I was justgetting up.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I mean, it's happened .
I think what's crazy issometimes.
That's why I can see whenpeople say they be reaching oh,
maybe not with Kendrick, but forme somewhere.
Man, when you said that oneline, you was like.
I was like nigga, what's up?

Speaker 3 (42:11):
with you, yeah, but you don't know how to touch them
though.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
Yeah, no, but it'll be like that line.
When you said this, though, Ihad some super complex on top of
triple entendre.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
But to them it was.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, I get that.

Speaker 1 (42:26):
That's cool, because to to them in the moment it it.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
It struck a nerve what they were going through and
what they could relate to.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
But then that's one of those where you're like, oh,
what'd it do?

Speaker 2 (42:33):
and you're like, oh, that's what's up, that's okay so
yeah, I've had those momentswhere you just be like oh word,
and like, uh, it was recentlythat happened.
I set a line on a on a songthat that never got released but
I shared a snippet of it and itwas like nigga, that Jesse the
Barber line, it's like a bar ontop of a bar on top of a bar.

(42:54):
I said, if you say so, I meanit was a straight up statement
for me, I'm Jesse the Barber'sson, they're like.
But that line I said, ok, okay,if you say so, man, I fuck with
.
If you make me sound doper thanI am, I appreciate it.
Uh.

(43:15):
so yeah, um, oh shit so I guess,I guess let's simplify this you
guys believe in you.
You do truthfully believe infate, destiny or a higher power.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent Now to the degree of
religion and stuff.
It's one blanket to me if thatmakes sense.
I mean, if what they say aboutheaven and stuff is whatever the
fuck you want it to be, but Idon't know what that all is.

(43:51):
You know what I mean.
So, yes, fate, destiny, allthat stuff.
I do believe the, what they say, the free will, but, like,
there's certain things where yougo through and you're like, oh
shit, this is literally the path, like it's too right.

Speaker 2 (44:06):
Would you say you're religious, or would you just say
spiritual.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
No, no, no, because religion I know.
Remember, I did a lot of studyinto religion and stuff.
I made my own beliefs and bythe definition of things I can't
call myself like Christianity.
I can't call myself thatbecause if you believe the way
like, you can only believe onecertain way.

(44:29):
Yeah, and I don't.
And I can't believe any otherreligion because I don't believe
that way either.
So it's like how the fuck doesthat make sense?
So it's just one blanket one,god, one, everything to me, just
a heathen, I guess, if that'swhat that is.
But you know, at least I knowit ain't just, I ain't running
this shit.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
We ain't doing this you.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
I believe in all that man, I believe in all that
Triple believe in karma.
All right, karma.
It may not be instant,sometimes it's instant.
Sometimes it take a while, LikeI got cut off the other day.
I told you he ran the lightcoming off.
He didn't realize there was acop right behind him.
That was instant karma.
But do you see how?

Speaker 1 (45:13):
you treat karma no, I mean.
But most people do that, likewhen they go to karma they think
the bad sense, no, it's thegood stuff too.
You always got to remember that.
No, it you letting that just?
Letting it go yeah that was younot getting arrested?

Speaker 2 (45:29):
I got you.
I got you and he told it to me.
Uh, the same day we I was inthe parking lot and I saw open
spot and I saw one of ourco-workers shout out the manny.
I realized he was coming backto the spot because I was going
to go to her and I realized whathe was doing.
I was oh, he's doubling back.
So when he looked at me he'slike he's gonna take the spot I

(45:50):
said no, I just kept drivingstraight and he took the spot.
And, uh, I drove around, I goteven a closer spot for letting
him take that spot.
And then when I talked to him,when we walked in, he was like
man, I really appreciate yougiving that spot to me.
Man, I appreciate.
I said when I saw what you weredoing, I realized I'm like this

(46:12):
is his spot.
He, he saw the spot.
He came all the way back to thespot.
I'm not taking the spotuniverse hey, and the universe?

Speaker 1 (46:17):
yeah, this is your spot yeah, so I got a closer
spot for you better than me,because with them plates out
there I'll see another handicapand and be like nah nigga, I got
here first.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
But yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:35):
No, but I do.
Karma goes both ways, the goodand the bad.

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I mean, I'm just saying you're like karma's
motherfucker and I'm like niggagot arrested.
Hey man, there's good karma.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
No, I'm saying there's definitely good karma.
Good deeds come back to you.
Good karma?
No, I'm saying like there'sdefinitely good karma.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Like good deeds come back to you Sometimes.
Yeah, no, they do.
They do Just in the heart Firmbeliever.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
They come back in ways you probably don't
understand.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
And treating people how I like to be like how.
I would like to be treated solike that I noticed in my
lifetime has kind of benefitedme, just because I always feel
like people, some people willalways be what they are, yeah,
and then other people, withouteven realizing it, end up kind
of like making you believe thatthere's better and there's more

(47:21):
out there, so you can't justlike.
It's kind of hard for me to everjust stay down, down.
Yeah, because there's alwayssomeone that keeps showing.
I feel like that's the waykarma working is when I start
feeling and losing hope inhumanity and how people are and
and and not, there's that oneperson that'll come around and
be like there's good out heretoo, and you're like you know
what I needed to see that.
Thank you for letting me knowthere's good out here it's like.

Speaker 3 (47:43):
It's like the one particular dispatcher.
Every time she goes to the box,I go.
I'm proud of you showing up,because y'all I didn't want to
come, but you did, I'm proud ofyou.
And so now, when she sees me,I'm going to go today, I'm going
to go Saturday, I'm going tosay okay.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I'm proud of you, so like that's karma too yeah it's
good karma you're paying it forit, paying it forward by letting
them know like yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:05):
Putting a couple coins in the karma tank.
Yeah, I like it.
I see you out there, but uh.

Speaker 3 (48:11):
I see you.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I definitely believe in a higher purpose and I'm not
religious, but I am spiritual.
I do believe in there'sdefinitely something.
There has to be somethinghigher, Like you know.
So like my brain will.
Just I try not to think aboutit too much, Cause I'll sit
there for a whole minute, Justfuck it, Like so, if this, then

(48:33):
what?

Speaker 1 (48:34):
but then like, and then I start that's just fun,
I'll be stumped for like fuckingtwo hours.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
It'd be mad as fuck Cause.

Speaker 1 (48:41):
I got to go to.
When it gets to religion withme, it just it gets crazy and
they be asking stuff.

Speaker 3 (48:47):
The religion part to me is kind of hard.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
It's not for me Because it's like it's not bad
to me.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
I'm not saying it's bad, because what I'm saying is
like similar to what EddieGriffin has said.
Right, he said.
He said he was talking aboutChristianity, buddha and Muslim.
Right, he said, they all got amessage.
Right, the master?
He said forget the master, didyou get the message?

(49:14):
Because if you got the message,isn't that what's important?
That's what's important.
That's important.
Yeah, so as long as youunderstand and you live them off
, the message, that's what'simportant.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
I think we should take from all of them.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Maybe not the ones that's crazy, like Satanism and
shit.
I have this weird belief thatthey're all kind of mixed they
are.

Speaker 1 (49:32):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (49:33):
If you go, look at them, you go oh shit, there's no
way to verify.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
Oh shit, these are crazy and it's like it's the
same lessons.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
You can't tell me that these things weren't in
cross-influence.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
The lessons are the same a lot it.
The lessons are the same a lot,it's just different things Like
hey, you can have seven wives,Like nigga, you can't have seven
wives, but don't be bad topeople.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
I don't know who would want seven wives.
I don't know why they do this.
They're not American.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Neo.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Sorry, he wants seven girlfriends.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
We was tangent.
What was the next one?

Speaker 3 (50:16):
That was some nigga shit.
We was tangent.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
What would you say to someone who's skeptical about
these kind of experiences?

Speaker 1 (50:23):
How.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Sooner or later, reality is going to always show
you.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
I just don't know how I'll be, like, how like you,
like dog, I just don't it'scrazy and you're like it's just
crazy, huh, like that's just itkeep happening, but it's crazy
okay well, you don't like, Iguess at some point you have to
go.
Hey, you don't.
You don't see the signs, nigga.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
So I guess I'm going to add to your tangent.
I guess that would mean thatyou're responsible for the said
person giving me a complimentthe other day about my hair.
How, because?

Speaker 3 (51:03):
she never said anything before.
Maybe she painted for her.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Because she was like oh, you always you know when
your hair, when your hair is alllike this, I love to know
you're about to get a nice, areally nice hair and your hair
is gonna look nice.
I said she's never been thatpolite.
What about that?

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I've been, I've really been trying, I've been
trying, I've been spreadingpositivity, responsible for see
the karma's going.
I've been trying to spreadpositivity that's all I've been
doing.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
Look at this guy fucking Kirby Puckett.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
I don't know why I said that, I think I think a lot
of people become skepticalbecause it is it's safe to have
doubt, because you can always beprepared for being disappointed
.
Yeah, I guess, but because youcan always be prepared for being
disappointed.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
Disappointed?
Yeah, I guess, but I don't know.
I feel like some people don'twant to believe that they're not
in control.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
You're only in control to a certain extent.

Speaker 1 (52:04):
Yeah, but I mean some people you know I did that.
You're like okay, yeah, but Imean some people you know I did
that You're like okay, you did,but it's like there was some
shit.
Like you don't believe, like Ibelieve some things where I'm
like I mean, I guess I did that,but nigga like something.

Speaker 3 (52:20):
That was my question about free will.
I was like, how will I Ifeverything's predestined and I'm
being I don't want?

Speaker 1 (52:27):
to say what I can say , because it's morbid and it's
fucked up, right, but I'm sayingthat's.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
If everything's predestined, that's freedom.
I know that sounds fucked up,it's free.
So what you're telling me isI'm free to live what has
already been written for me tolive no, you're not hearing what
I'm saying and I don't want togo down that Because there's
like a whole lot of Like you'rein control of that.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Okay, you get what I mean.
Yeah, sure you don't get what Imean, I don't.
Well, that's cool, there's apoint like you could, you could
stop it you get what I mean, butyou could end it on any term
but that tangent has been that'salso been decided.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
If and when I do that so you're saying I was supposed
to take the potassium on anempty stomach and throw up and
then make a song for Des?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
okay, see, he's taking it to every little.
I don't mean like, god damn it.
See, he's taking it to everylittle.
I don't mean like, because I'mlike God damn it.
How do you get to this?
I know what he's doing.
He's doing the that's the morelethal.
Yeah, why not fall for it?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Fell for it.
I would say to anyone who'sskeptical I would say to anyone
who's skeptical you better havea really good game plan for life
if you don't pay attention tothe things that are happening,
because if it keeps on happeningyou keep intentionally ignoring
it and neglecting it.
You must really like hard shit,like pause.

(54:07):
I mean that could just be likea hard shit.
Yeah, like, yeah, hard shitlike pause, pause.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I mean, that could just be like a hard shit yeah,
like, yeah, hard shit.

Speaker 2 (54:14):
You were like damn, so maybe I should be taking more
fiber tmi but, if it'spredestined.
You were never supposed to takeyou will take the fiber anyway
because, it's predestined

Speaker 1 (54:26):
but what is that?
Who was that?
What was it?
In a movie where they'retalking about with the, uh, like
tag, had god, send me, tell my,tell me somebody's in a boat
somewhere and they're stranded.
And then, uh, castle, a boatcomes by or something comes by
and it's like, hey, uh, you needa ride or whatever.
It's like no man, god's alreadytold me, like he's gonna help
me out.
And then, like something elsecomes by.

(54:48):
It's not like the same thing.
It's like, hey, I can get you,we can get out of here.
He's like, nah, nah, god's got,he already told me he's got
this, blah, blah, blah.
And then he dies.
Then he's like, hey, god, Ithought you were supposed to
look out for me.
And he's like I sent two boats.
Like you guys need the signs,nigga.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
I fucked with that.
Um, if you could go back, whatwould you want to experience
again?
Why, why not?
If I can go back if you can goback to the, the things that are
kind of shaped you to who youare now what things?
Would you want to experience?

Speaker 3 (55:27):
my brain went totally different.
It wasn't sexual, okay.
Okay, I'm just making sure,because my brain said I would
love to just lay on my grandma'slap and get my head rubbed one
time.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
I was in that vein.
That's where I was at.

Speaker 2 (55:46):
I mean that could be it.
I'm just saying the things thathave shaped you to.

Speaker 3 (55:50):
I love to wake up and smell salmon, crow cats and
homemade biscuits and appleturnovers Stuff like that.
There's a lot of things I wouldhave did Most definitely.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
Not done.
There's some things I wish Iwould have gone and done.

Speaker 3 (56:09):
But you did the shrew , but you didn't do the.
You did the strooms or youdidn't do that.
Did I do the?
Strooms no no, you did thestrooms, but with the stuff you
didn't do.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Not drugs, like I no, I'm not talking about that,
hell no.
But just different likeexperiences where it's like,
damn, you should have not saidno and did that Because it could
have been, that was a fun time,it looked like, or could have
been a whole lot of justexperiences and shit, like even
with Navy shit, where it's likegoing out doing I almost wish I

(56:42):
would have did some of thathumanitarian shit, but I never
went out and did those Likethat's what I feel like I missed
out on in some of those things,because I think that would have
fulfilled something inside ofme.
Because Pause, no, not a pauseon that.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
Because, you know, I didn't say fill, you said fully
fill, fulfill.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
Fulfill Fuffle Because you know, I mean I used
to want to do Peace corps andshit like that and I just didn't
do that, like certain thingsthat I feel like, but I still go
those routes in my life.
So that's why I say like thepath and will to do it certain
ways.
It's still the way things go.
You still lead down those paths.

(57:25):
Um, so those are things I wishI could have like, not said no
to things like that or just tookthe chance like that's what I
don't do a lot of is takingleaps and chances to calculate
it with stuff.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I'll say and it popped in my head as you were
talking was the times that Iwould love to relive back was
there was a few times when mydad, when I was like 14, 15 and,
uh, he had just bought, um,this corvette from a friend of

(58:02):
ours.
It was a 1985 corvette and hewould always work on his cars in
the weekend, but thisparticular time he was like I'm
going to take the car out to SanDiego or Oceanside or whatever,
because he had a friend outthat way, so he was just going
to drive.
So there was one time thatwasn't the Corvette.

(58:24):
That's two different times.
This one time in particular, weended up in San Diego.
He rented a car for my sisterand she ended up up not showing
up, like not being able to makeit because she was coming from
st louis.
But we ended up renting usingthe rental car and we drove all
the way to san diego.
But he let me drive and I was14 and I just was driving and I
thought it was so cool and likemy dad had this weird faith,
like he just knew it's like, oh,he's fine, and he like do shit

(58:47):
where he would fall asleep, andI'm like I don't have a license,
I'm 14, I'm freaking out.
But he just had the faith that,oh, we're fine, yeah.
And then he used to do that alot.
Um, then there was a time wedrove all the way.
Uh, the corvette was to indioso we drove because my brother
used to live in indio.
So he let me drive and he'slike don't get fast now, just

(59:10):
fucking, just drive, all right.
And then there was a the firsttime that he wanted to test my
skills as a driver.
He had rented a car.
It was a volkswagen beetle formy sister.
Uh, we were supposed to just goright around riverside.
And I'm riding, I'm drivingaround riverside and he goes
just go ahead and turn rightthere.

(59:31):
I said that's the freeway onramp.
He's like, yeah, just go ahead.
And then I got on the freeway,he's like, all right, now, after
I get him flipped off trying tomerge, he's like keep going
straight.
I said okay, and then so weended up on the 60.
The 60 turned into passing, the605.

(59:51):
605 turned to me being in LA.
And then we ended up parking atsome soul food spot he loved to
go to and I said I just droveto fucking LA.
That's funny.
So I feel like that's whatthose dreams represented for me
was those times and moments intime where me and my dad would
just do random shit, but it waswhat we did like.

(01:00:14):
So those are the things that ifI got a chance to do again I
would do just drive somewhereand um yeah, I think that was
just your dad seeing thematurity you had and you didn't
recognize me that shit.
I just know I was.
He said that's the freeway.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Yeah, I know what, what, what the hell, like I'm
pretty sure you said that phraseto your kids all the time.
Yeah, I know, yeah, dad, youknow, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know
so we're gonna end it with thisone.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
what advice I know, so we're going to end it with
this one.
What advice would you givelisteners who feel that the
universe is trying to tell themsomething?

Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Listen nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
Is there a song, a book or a quote that captures
the essence of your experiences?

Speaker 3 (01:01:01):
A lot of songs, a lot of songs.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
That captures the what, that captures the essence
of the experiences you had.
So, as we're giving this adviceto the listener, is there a
song or a quote?

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
The chemicals of my youth or the beauty of my youth
is gone, but the chemicalsremain.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
He's still high people.
He's been riding that high fora long time.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
So it's a two-part.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
I mean, there's nothing other than what he said.
Listen, nigga, you got torecognize it.
Don't ignore it.
And that's your quote you'regoing with.
I mean, that's just some funshit.
A quote, just that's some funshit.

(01:01:58):
Uh, a quote.
I think I don't know if thatfalls into that.
That's just probably like amantra, but it's uh.
Heroes and cowards feel thesame fear and that to me is like
alright, we all feel the fear.
Like what are you going to dowith it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
so some people thrive and some people drool.
Yeah, I'm a.
A book, I would say, would beas a man thinketh, basically
tell you, like, how you think,how you talk to yourself matters
.
That was powerful.

(01:02:38):
Like I said, man, you got tolisten to the universe because
eventually I feel as if theuniverse has a weird way that if
you avoid it for long enough,it's going to show you and then
you ain't going to have nochoice but to listen.

(01:02:59):
As far as a song, I mean,there's a lot of.
For me personally, there's alot of songs, or a lot of parts
of songs, that do the differentthings for my mental, depending
on, depending on how I'm feelingin the moment, like if I'm

(01:03:20):
hyping myself up or if I've donesomething and I feel like I'm
that guy.
And then I always think aboutmy boy McFly when he says I'm
the, I'm the nigga, I'm the oneMake sure you keep it up.
Say that that was a bar, thatwas a bar, that was a bar.
I think about that.
Um, you know, just recently, uh,I think it was a couple days
ago in the gym, uh, I wasstruggling to lift something up

(01:03:40):
and I in my head I said I hit.
I heard kendrick pushing niggas, I'm like, uh, so I mean, there
I I always had this.
I've always had this thingwhere I could take parts of
songs that correlate to me.
I think that's why I'm soheavily, heavily, heavily,
heavily, heavily was impacted byFriday Night Lights.
So much of that mixtaperesonated with what I was going

(01:04:02):
through at the time.
So, yeah, I mean, you find, youfind your sources of motivation
and you use them appropriately.
You find your sources ofmotivation and you use them
appropriately.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Being a virgin is something to be embarrassed
about, that shit.
That's why I partake in pussy.
For me, I was leaning towards.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
More towards the good thing.
Nigga.
Nigga, you came a long way.
The bad news is, nigga, youwent the wrong way yeah, that
was the one cause.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
It's like right at the beginning of the fucking
mixtape and I was like, yeah, Iremember feeling like, yeah, I
really wanted not be a virginanymore.
So I, yeah, and the worst thingwas I had the condom in my
pocket like, anyway, um, the the, the quote I'll say is I it

(01:04:59):
always resonates with me and I,truthfully, we should all stand,
we have that stance is uh, ifyou don't stand for something,
you'll fall for anything.
Um, but that just more or lessis believe, just believe in what
you believe in and don't letpeople make you feel bad for
what you believe in.
Um, and always have a butalways have a reason for why

(01:05:22):
you're trying to do something.
Don't just don't be swayed by,I guess, by, I guess, popular
opinion.
But the advice I would givelisteners if you feel like
something is at play that'strying to tell you something,
please take heed.
That's the only advice I cangive.

(01:05:46):
Just try to take heed to it,even if you're skeptical about
it.
Just try to give it a chance.
Even if you're skeptical aboutit, just try to give it a chance
.
Give it a fucking chance.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
I'd also say distance yourself from anyone who puts
doubts in your plans.
Because you may be listening tothe universe and you're
relaying what they're tellingyou to someone else and they're
putting doubt in your mind.
A lot of times you got tounderstand people are around you
because they feel like they'retelling you to someone else and
they're putting doubt in yourmind.
A lot of times you got tounderstand people are around you
because they feel like they'rebetter than you and they don't

(01:06:14):
want to see you succeed.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, stay away from the rays of the world.
Yeah, you got to reference acouple episodes back.
Anyway, with that being said,this has been episode 205 of the
Heavyweight.
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(01:06:36):
Till next time, we love you,peace, goodbye that's a wrap,
y'all.

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