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Ever come home after a long day only to find your last snack missing and your kid chilling in your spot like they pay bills? Welcome to fatherhood—real, raw, and full of surprises.

In this honest and hilarious episode of The Heavyweight Podcast, three dads pull back the curtain on what it really means to raise children in today’s world. From shelling out $1,200 a month on extracurriculars to wrestling with the emotional weight of protecting and providing, they hold nothing back.

They reflect on powerful memories of their own fathers, sharing heartfelt lessons passed down through swimming trips, early morning BBQs, and quiet moments that now make perfect sense. Fatherhood, they admit, has transformed them in ways they never expected—giving their lives focus, purpose, and sometimes a little chaos too.

You'll laugh, nod your head, and maybe even tear up as they dive into:

  • How becoming a dad reshapes your identity
  • Dealing with pocket-watching coworkers
  • Raising daughters in a complicated world
  • And the truth behind: “You don’t understand until you go through it.”

Final takeaway? It’s not about what you can buy—it’s about being there. The memories you build matter most.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The message behind saying the title of the
Heavyweight Podcast is to beable to say that we can weigh in
on some heavy shit.
What we're talking about isimportant from every aspect of
it.
It's a heavy weight.
It's not just about physicalweight, but the weight of things
that can weigh our minds.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Statistically, a household with a father in it
produces children that areusually more well-balanced.
They usually have a bit ofself-confidence.
This is episode 202, dedicatedto the fathers.
I'm Des the Diva, sitting herewith three of the most amazing

(00:49):
fathers that I know.
Introduce yourself, gentlemen.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
I'm Kevin Winslow.

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Any relation to Carl.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
None, none at all.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
Are you Winslow?

Speaker 4 (01:03):
None, none at all no Are your wins low.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I don't know if I want to be related to Carl after
them stories came out.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
We and I can, I will talk about that off camera.
Go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
I am Dez, the Diva's favorite guy, molito.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
He's lying.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
I'm that Nick that's the divas favorite guy molito,
he's lying.
I'm uh that nick, uh mcfly.
And then also I am sun kissmcfly, and I'm aren't you glad
that you're on this podcast withfly I like sun kiss mcfly.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
That's cute.
I like that.
Now you're not gonna use itbecause you said it's cute.
Yeah, don't know, nobody wantto hear that.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Why do you want to hear oh, that's cute it, I like
that.
Now you're not going to use itbecause you said it's cute.
Don't make me want to hear that.

Speaker 3 (01:46):
It could be cute if I wanted to be cute.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
I like it.
It don't sound hard to get thisout.
I like it.
It's no longer a nickname.
When you do that, it's over,thanks.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
It's all orange.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
I like it.
I like it.
How were your weeks Great?

Speaker 5 (02:05):
I live in a fucking trash.
Can you do look like Oscar theGrouch today?

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Look at this oh, you didn't wear that.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
You have the green.
I didn't wear the Oscar, Ithought about wearing it.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
I love Oscar, not on a dead day.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah, Oscar, you're a grouch.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Oh yeah, you know what my winku's really good.
I got a new grill.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Oh yeah, right, you got another grill.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Yeah, they tried that shit with me.
I said send that shit back andgive me something I can use for
myself.
No, I asked for this one.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Okay, it's like one of them.
It's a girly grill, but I don'tgive a fuck.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
What do you mean?
Girly grill?

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Explain it's a Ninja, a Ninja.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
That don't count, nigga.
I thought you were got a girloutside.
It's outside.
It's an outside one.

Speaker 1 (02:46):
It's an outside, ninja, you got an outside grill.
It's outside.
I got like a pizza oven and amotherfucking smoker.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh yeah, I'll be back next week with my pizza dough.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, so all I heard is that you started making
pizzas for the family For noreason.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, for so do a breakfast pizza.
We're probably gonna make everytype of pizza and dessert pizza
, mushroom pizza.
I'm gonna make some Oreo pizzaI might pop up.
Yeah, that sounds good.
No, I can't do that.
Yes, you can.
I'm trying to lose weight,right.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
That's what.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
I'm saying Well, how was your week um, john?

Speaker 3 (03:26):
that's it.

Speaker 4 (03:27):
I'm just.
I can't even be happy forFather's Day, cause all I'm
thinking about is how much shitcosts.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Oh yeah, that's all I think about oh, let that be the
one day, you don't think?

Speaker 1 (03:36):
about that shit you can't that's sad.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
You know what you know.
What was due after GymnasticsDay or after Father's day was
gymnastics fees them fees.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
Don't let up shit they on your ass.
I for some reason I assumed youpaid them like one time a year
and then you were done.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
It sound like you paying them multiple damn times.
They pay them every month.
It costs so much.
You have to break this shit upyou have to do a payment plan.
That's how they expect to get.
Look here the team payments isabout four grand.
That's broken up in sixpayments, so you do that right.

(04:15):
Then you still have to pay themonthly dues that's due the
first of every month.
So all I'm going to say is thatI gave this gym $1,200 this
month.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
I got into the wrong profession.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Hello he said, but it's the first or the sixth?

Speaker 3 (04:34):
What is it?
So because now I'm intrigued,and we won't go too too deep in
this, but now I'm intrigued.
So what are the dudes?

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Hold on, hold on, hold on and that was on top of
paying for.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
I had to finish paying for camp because we go to
camp in three weeks.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
I remember oh, no, man.
If somebody wants to go fund me, this gentleman and sponsor,
that's happening.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
So, when people ask me, man, how was your father's
day, kids?
It's like.
It's like preschool too.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
That should be that should be, that should be wild
yeah, that's out, and I meanthey give us a breakdown on what
the fees cover, but I think I'mbeing overcharged because I
feel like I can coach some ofthese girls.
Um, hold on, this is the fuckedup part about the contract, oh
okay there's a clause in thecontract.
There's a clause in the contractwhere they you know it's teen

(05:24):
sports, y'all got kids.
They want their parents tovolunteer, right, so they add an
extra $150 in the contract ifyou don't volunteer.
But if you volunteer your hours, you get that money, like
taking off your final payment.
I've heard of this.
How are you paid?
I'm not volunteering.
Fuck you and your mans.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I don't give a fuck.
Does Don King run this or well?

Speaker 1 (05:43):
no, there's some.
They like force the parents todo it so my week was fucking
expensive.
Like they schedule them,they're like this is your week
to clean.
You're like oh shit, I didn'tknow that was part of the.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
So they they pretty much expect us to like when they
host like, like, the like, thelike the yearly Christmas thing
and like it's another like andlike, like little and Jim Meets.
They expect us to like help setup, break down is the song
playing throughout every banquetand thing.
I'm a hustler baby.
They hustling, they definitelyfucking hustling they definitely

(06:17):
are they is hustling.
It's a hustler's ambition, thisnigga's?
Yeah, they definitely hustle.
I'm sorry I stopped going upthere because I get pissed off.
I bet you do, I bet you do whenthe Remy's in the system every
time I pass the tundra I go man.
One day, as soon as I got there, as soon as she, every day I
wake up like baby.
You sure you want to do this.
Let me know now because we can.

(06:40):
You know, softball is a lotcheaper.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I'm not.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
It's going to pay off in the end.

Speaker 3 (06:45):
She does very well at it.
It's a lot cheaper.
It's going to pay off in theend.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
It's a lot cheaper.
It depends on if you get intothe club.
It's still cheaper.
Mcfly it's cool, it's stillcheaper.

Speaker 3 (06:54):
Once they're done, debating can you tell me how
you're doing.

Speaker 5 (06:57):
You're weak you, you did man it's a safe space.
She done pissed me off welisten and we don't judge you
need more time than we got.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
I judge how was your week, mcfly.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
I'm finna call my therapist when I leave now cause
he done upset me, I donetriggered you.
Now I gotta talk now you haveto pay extra for it cause it's a
Saturday.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
I'm so sorry, how was your week, mcfly?
My week was work and dealingwith the nosies it was some nosy
folks nosy people at work, thepocket watchers you got pocket
watchers at the god damn job.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
That's dope they were pocket watching and I was
leaving work this week and oneof the co-workers, who I'm cool
with, asked the question while Iwas leaving early and I ignored
that.
But then it was another guythat I don't really care for,
that uh asked me a question.
He kept asking, he was pushing.
He was like hey man, youleaving this early, uh, you're

(07:54):
not gonna work anymore.
I said dude, what are you afucking supervisor?
Hey man, I'm just, I'm justtrying to have a conversation,
buddy, and I gave him energy and, um, he just turned away from
me and then one of the on-roadsupervisors was trying to defuse
the situation.
So he was like man, you lookgreat, man, you've been in the
gym and I said this, nigga'strying to defuse the situation

(08:15):
so he was doing the jobyeah, but he, he, he picked up
on what was fucking happening.
Though, like the one thing I'llsay about our job is they worry
so much about amongst thedrivers there's always a worry
about what the other drivercould be doing, what they could
be making, why they get this andnot that, and it's like I've

(08:36):
never understood it.
I've had this talk with mo.
I always mind my own business,focus on what I'm doing, and I
never really have time to worryabout what the next man is doing
.
So it always baffles me whenI'm confronted with it, because
it's been that way for a longtime.
But every time I'm confrontedwith it, just like damn, they're
really pocket watching me,because if I'm not worried about

(08:57):
you, are you worried about me,and that was how my week ended
there.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
You should go buy a beater car and just drive it for
like a month straight and belike dang a hoopty nigga, let
him be, he just fell on roughtime.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Not get my hair braided, just come to work, do
the smoke, handshaking and shit.
Hey man, you good.
No man, I'm a they didn't getyou.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
They didn't get you yet you ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Just show like two Fridays in a row.
They be like what's going on?
Man, you alright, you goodeverything good.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
I mean you're never here on Fridays.
I mean, nigga, you don't careabout me, you just nosy how was
your week Des?

Speaker 3 (09:45):
it was cool.
It was cool.
This is super random, but I cansmell your drink.
Oh, it smell fire.
So you want one, I do, I'm uphere like what you drinking.
I don't really drink A littlebark.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
But Roar, roar, roar.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
It smells good, I can smell it, I'm like what the
hell is going on.

Speaker 4 (10:07):
It's your drink.
I smell that's some nigga shitover in that cup.
You got some nigga shit in thatcup no ice that's nigga shit.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
He said no ice but no , I had, I had a cool week.
I'm not too eventful this week,I'm just chilling, okay, just
chilling All right, let's getinto these questions.
The first question is what wasyour first memory of your father
or father figure?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
First memory.
I don't know my first memory.
The first thing I can think ofthat I remember is always.
I don't know how old I was.
That I remember is always.
I don't know how old I was.
I had to be like four, maybefive, trying to get my dad
trying to teach me how to swimat the beach.
Didn't go too well, oh no,taught me to toughen up.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
That's the craziest place to learn how to swim Right
.
You realize I could go that wayRight easily, Real easy.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
That's right.
Yeah, I can go that way, right,easily, real easy, that's right
, yeah, I got to slam my littlewave or two.
Can you now swim?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Yeah, I can swim.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
I hope so.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah, he didn't like the.
You know me crying and shitabout the sand in my eyes.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Oh, toughen me up.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Rinse that shit off with that salt water.
Toughen me up, that's.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
That's a little fucked up, but okay but it's not
a bad memory, it's just funny.
I was like that's weird, thatthat's the one of the first ones
pops in my head man, I don'tknow, it's rough.

Speaker 4 (11:41):
I don't know like damn I'm getting old, I know.
I know one of my favoritememories whenever he, my
grandfather, would wake up atabout 4, 3.30, 4 in the morning
to go light that barrel smoker.
You know old school barrel,barrel yeah, that's gonna be a

(12:02):
good day.
Yeah, that's gonna be a goodday.
Yeah, that's going to be a goodday.
Um, my cause, my grandpa.
He was a man of little words.
So you, you, he didn't say much.
You had to watch what he wasdoing.
He, he told you through hisactions.
So, um, I will say my, myfavorite memory, I will say my

(12:39):
favorite memory.
I will always say this, myfavorite memory.
I remember I think I was about13 or 14, and we were out in the
garage one Saturday cleaningthe garage, organizing stuff,
was a man of few words.
I had never heard him talk likethis, ever.
And we're doing something, andmy grandma came out there you
know typical woman fashion,telling men how to work, and she
was like no, no, mygrandfather's name was LT.
No, lt, don't put it there, Iwant that over there.
And he turned around.
He said woman, go in there andmake me something to eat and be

(13:00):
quiet.
And my grandma shut up, turnedaround, walked in the house and
started cooking and I lookedlike I've never seen this before
, but it should.
And she was like okay, you'reright.
She was like all right, I donepushed the wrong button.
Let me back up.
Well, yeah, I mean they weremarried 65 years before they

(13:21):
passed away, so they didsomething right, they?

Speaker 2 (13:24):
did something right, they did something right, so
absolutely sorry for this nextstory oh damn uh, the first
memory I have of my dad, uh, Ihave to give the backstory.
Uh, my mom had, uh took me tolive with her, her parents, in
st louis and, um, it wasn'tgoing good and after a couple of

(13:49):
uh the the situations that hadhappened, uh, she sent me back
to live with my dad because, uh,at one point, like it got so
bad, I broke.
I woke up crying in the middleof the night and she didn't like
the treatment that washappening to me, so she sent me
back to live with my dad.
And when my dad picked me upfrom Greyhound, he picked me and

(14:13):
my sister up, he took us toMcDonald's on University.
He pulled up near the entranceand told, uh, my sister to get
us food or whatever.
And I hopped out with my sisterto go get food.

(14:35):
And I remember him telling methis, and I remember it um, that
I wouldn't let him out of mysight because I had a fear that
he wouldn't, he was going toleave.
So I remember him telling mefrom his perspective and him
saying that it broke his heartbecause he never wanted me to
have to feel that.
So, um, yeah, that first memorywas essentially just, uh, the

(15:02):
one I can remember, becausethere's there are a lot of
different things, but that onewas the first memory that sticks
out when I think about, um, mydad, and I feel like after that
point he kind of just took it onhimself not to make me feel
that way again, but uh, yeah,that was the first memory is him
leaving us at mcdonald's onuniversity.

(15:22):
That's why anytime I drive bythere, I feel that that it's a
weird, uh, it's a weird emotion,but I just feel I don't know
like life shifted at that point.
But I did feel, like my dadlike just said, I'm gonna be the
best that I can be in thatmoment you sound like you had a

(15:45):
really really good dad.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, real good dad.
Just listening to some of thestories you shared over the time
podcasting, you had a reallygood dad.
Um, what are some lessons didyour dad that?
Your dad taught you that stuckwith you.
And, and just so the fans know,I don't talk about my dad, like
them niggas on in contact, I'lltalk about bruno, so I won't be
really having too much to sayabout these questions, so I'm
gonna ask you but they didn'ttalk about real, because you

(16:08):
don't know the real I ain'ttalking about.
My dad might know the realsomething.
He ain't speaking up, so Idon't want to talk about that
nigga.
I don't have nothing to sayabout him but you're not going
to apologize.
You don't apologize, only to,only to the knee.
I don't say apologize to Ray,just the knee.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
That's because my mom she still think it's okay to
whip people when they 40.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
So she, so did my grandfather.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
I don't want to, I don't want to smoke with that
lady.
Kevin, good answer Lessonslearned you cooking up?

Speaker 4 (16:37):
No good answer.
Lessons learned you cooking up?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
no, I think like accountability, not really
taking nothing, like don't takeno shit.
I think one of I don't know whyhe said shit like this don't
take no wooden nickels.
I know what that means.
Now I didn't younger that hesaid shit like this Don't take

(17:03):
no wooden nickels.
I know what that means now.
I didn't Younger, that didn'tmake any fucking sense.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Okay, Smoke what.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
But I don't know A lot of those lessons, it's just
it taught me he kind of taughtme how to take care of myself,
like, and not rely on nobodyelse, and it was cool once I did
that.
And then, fortunately, I wasstarting to do certain things
where he could see that.

(17:32):
And then him noticing andtelling me I see what you're
doing, I'm proud of that.
I'm like, oh, that's cool,that's a cool feeling.
So I think him seeing thelessons that he was teaching me
come to fruition, I like that.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
I know that wasn't part of the question, it just
it's okay, it's okay um, I wouldjust say that, uh, that
responsibility, responsibility,don't care how, about how your
life is going.
You ain't lying.

Speaker 3 (18:01):
Neither was your father figure.
That's a fact check.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
So it don't matter how you feel, you got people
you're responsible for.
You get up and take care ofwhat you got to take care of.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Period Point.
Damn Blame McFly.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Main point always be a man of your word.
Close mouth don't get.
Be a man of your word, uh,close mouth don't get.
Fed was usually a a commonunderstanding.
Speak the fuck up.
And um, you used to always tellme this and I I live by that.
Shit is uh, you know what youneed to do, so do it.
And that that I hear his voiceevery time when I'm I'm doubting

(18:38):
myself or the hard reality hitsand it's just like I hear his
voice.
You know what you need to do,do it so anytime, like that's
the one.
That's the one time I hear hisvoice like the clearest, like
he's standing right next to me,like I'm in the doctor's office

(18:58):
and the doctor gives you like aharsh reality.
He's like you know what youneed to do.
Do it like you know what youneed to do.
Do it Like you know what youneed to do.
You know shit, lock in, so youknow.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Hmm, what are some things that you did not
understand about your fathersand father figures until you
became adults and, furthermore,fathers yourselves?

Speaker 4 (19:23):
That you'm broke.
I remember my girl all the timeI ain't got no money.
I just saw all that money youhad in your hand.
This money is accounted for asa father and as a husband.
I understand.
Yeah, we got paid today.
I'm just holding on to it alittle longer before I got to go
pay these people.
I get that now.
You gotta have somethingreserved, man.

(19:45):
You can't spend it as fast asyou get it.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I'm not gonna, because all yours is going to
the gymnastics.
Don't trigger them here.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I'm gonna break down a segment of this that's my.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
Tanya, right there, I can get it.
She just quit, she really lovedme.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
Another tale of gymnastic fees.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
We're going to be watching her on the Olympics and
you're going to be like I hope,so we know how much this costs.

Speaker 4 (20:17):
You're sponsored by Toyota.
I am keeping an itemized listof everything I spend.
Are you Show her look?

Speaker 3 (20:26):
Don't say we didn't love you.
She's going to take you thereand you guys are going to be
proud of the investment.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
Every time you guys are going on vacation, I'll show
her them fees.
You vacation every month.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
I am Okay.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Kev please, I don't know Kev Kev please, I don't
know, I won't say anything thatI mean I didn't understand a lot
about my dad until I got olderand learned more about his
upbringing, more than anythingelse.
So it made more sense to why mydad was the way he was.

(21:03):
From his upbringing, um, fromthings I didn't understand, I
guess, I don't know, I didn'tseem like that just from
watching him.
It felt like when I became adad, I just kind of emulated a
lot of those things Like putyour head down, you got to go to
work, get what you got to getdone, like things like that.
Some things I didn't implementCause you know it's a different

(21:23):
day and age.
Yeah, we ain't always going towork, but I don't know.
It didn't feel like anythingthat I didn't understand until I
was a dad, because it was likeI feel like he just kind of
displayed that and we understoodthat growing up.
So I just kind of translatedthat and we understood that
growing up.
So I just kind of translatedthat over to myself.

(21:45):
But it was more the upbringing,learning how he was raised, to
understand more of why he was,how he was it would be.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
It's funny because I've I've said it a couple times
to mo with our job, like whenwe work certain nights, like
when we worked overnight, Iwould get to a point where I get
so tired to the point where Iwould have to pull over and move
around and I it always pops inmy head like I remember my dad

(22:27):
when he would, we would travelcross-country.
He would be like I just need topull over the rest of my eyes.
I said the fuck like, and I seehim doing, like he'll run around
like the truck, he'll dojumping jacks, he'll do push-ups
, and I'm like and then he justhop in and take off and he have
like another two hours and likealso like the decompressing from

(22:48):
, he'll work 14 hours, whatevermany hours, on his feet as a
barber and then come home andlike you have to see him
decompress, like you watch himand you see that he's.
At the time I didn't understandit, but as a dad now I
understand that like he's tryingto unload everything that he
had to deal with that entire daythe anger, the stress, the, the

(23:10):
work, the tiredness and be ableto come home and then like
decompress and then kind ofswitch into dad mode and like
you don't understand it untilyou go through it, like that's
what he was doing.
So like when I get home andlike I have to process not
letting the outside world affecthow I feel inside is like I get
that why, why he did what hedid when I would see him and he

(23:33):
just he might come home, hemight drink like something or he
might just smoke a joint or hemight do whatever.
It's just anything to get awayfrom not thinking about how the
outside world is weighing on him.
So I got that.

Speaker 4 (23:48):
And that's why we sit in the car before we come in
the house.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Well, my dad, he stayed decompressing.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Yeah, I'm sorry when people say, oh, why don't you
get high, I was like, honestly,I probably had a contact high,
my entire life.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
You don't smoke no weed, I don't smoke I smoke.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
one joint, not a joint.
I hit a bong once and it didn'tdo shit to me.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
Nothing.
High tolerance, huh it was badweed, yeah, some true trash.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
It was good weed.
Jc would never let me say hesmoked bad weed I mean.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
How old was he?

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Yeah, he's fine, you're talking about JC Cruz,
right?
Yeah, yeah, the guy from NSYNC.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Yeah, Was this young?
Because as you get older youstart to get finer things.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
You're like I was young, I was.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Hell yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
I think I was 19 and I was shit going beef with my
dad and stressing the fuck out,and the homie offered to hit the
bong.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
I hit that bong and I know it was somebody white too.

Speaker 3 (24:45):
When you said the bong, I was like this somebody
white jerome is not whiteabsolutely, I'm gonna start at
this end of the table this time.
How has being a father changedyour life?

Speaker 2 (25:00):
um, I honestly just you realize that it's not about
you and um, when you get, whenyou're younger, you're thinking
about everything you want to do,and when kids come into the
picture, it's not about youanymore.
It's about, uh, what you canprovide for them and um, and
sometimes realizing that inlater stages, realizing that you

(25:25):
have to take care of you forthem.
So in the beginning you're justthinking, oh, what do I do?
What do I do?
This shit's all coming in fastpause.
And then you eventually hit apoint that you realize you have
to take care of yourself inorder to take care of them.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
Yeah, absolutely.
I think that a lot of times mendon't get the grace to do that.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, we don't get that.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
It's very much like women are encouraged to do that.
I'm not a parent and y'all knowthat, but just watching from
the outside, looking in, womenare encouraged to take care of
themselves, to have a moment tothemselves, to have their own
identity while still being a momand a wife, and things of that
nature, but I never see thatbeing encouraged to men.
So I'm glad that you mentionedthat, because that's definitely

(26:09):
a true fact.
Men are not encouraged to havea moment hell, breathe, do
something you used to do,something that, once you become
a father or a husband, it'salways just what can you provide
.
That's where the glory comes in.
And I don't think that's fair.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Like I posted recently, the change for me hit
when my dad died, but it waslike the whole braiding the hair
, rocking the parts in theeyebrow, the fucking hitting the
gym.
Everything is based on justtrying to take care of myself
and find myself, because I feellike I lost myself.
So in order to be here for them, I got to be a better me.

Speaker 3 (26:49):
So absolutely I agree .
I'm glad that you are activelyseeking you.
I cannot wait to see theoutcome of this.
I already see the changes and alittle bit more smiling, so I
love that for you.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
But I'm happy to see that you're actively seeking you
, I grin, or it's actually likea.
I'm having a slight stroke.
So when you see the grin, I seeyou smile.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Everybody else might not see it, but we see you smile
.
Gentlemen on this side, whathas being a father changed you?

Speaker 1 (27:21):
I like taking vacations without the kids we
know shit.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
I want you to take the shots, hey the shots you had
of the Kendrick show.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I feel like I was there yeah, I made it, it's uh
man, it was nice cause you know.
I'll be jealous.
I get to just come home.
I saw someone commented on yourvideo.
Oh, he's still.
He's still dragging it out.
I was like what the fuck areyou talking about?
I?

Speaker 1 (27:44):
was going to reply to that and I was like, well,
wouldn't you?
You sold a stadium Right.

Speaker 5 (27:50):
You better enjoy, not Like Us and shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
He go anywhere right now and don't sing that song.
It's going to be a damn problem.

Speaker 1 (27:57):
No problem, come on Shit.
I think I feel like it made mea little more focused, not a
little more, a lot more, becauseI was a little nuts.
So I got a little more focusedand can't do things that I'm
going to die from.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Thank.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
God.
So no more swimming with sharksand shit like that.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
You going to do that stratosphere?

Speaker 1 (28:20):
again.
Nah, that shit was boring.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
Oh, my God, damn, just hearing some of your
stories.
I'm glad you have kids and theyhave slowed you the fuck down,
because Nah, yeah, for real,they made me.

Speaker 5 (28:33):
Yeah, who the fuck knows A little more, are you?
Okay, over there A lot morefocused I just thought about
when he fucking passed outmidway coming down the
stratosphere, when he did thebungee jump, and then when the
guy was like, uh, is he okay?

Speaker 1 (28:48):
no, I didn't pass out .

Speaker 5 (28:49):
He had to do he had to do I was bored he had the guy
terrified because he thoughtlike he actually passed out
midway I was literally upset,like that was me, like shrugging
my shoulders because I was mad.

Speaker 1 (28:59):
I was was like damn, this is like there's no free
fall now.
Like three seconds in, it'slike I already feel never mind.
Anyway.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
You went bungee jumping.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
It wasn't bungee, it was base jumping.
But I think I'm moregoal-oriented because I kind of
was just running around.
I used to say, live like you'reretired, but I had no money, so
it's like not working out toowell.

(29:29):
Well that was good.
I like playing shit out now and, yeah, it's all about building
a future for them.
Like all this shit I'veaccumulated is it's not for me,
it's for all of us, obviously,but at some point it's gonna be
there.
So set them up with some coolshit and see how far I can take

(29:51):
that.
I like your outfit, man withthe cookies.
Is that what this is?
This clubhouse is a weed,aren't you uh?
Doing big things.
Today, orange is the new black.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Lolita, what is your answer?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
she's over us?

Speaker 3 (30:09):
nope not doing it, not doing a whole 45 minutes of
y'all bullshit.
Molita, what's the answer?

Speaker 4 (30:16):
I would just say, being a father, it gave bullshit
.
I mean, I'll be honest, it gaveme, it gave my life purpose.
Yeah, it did make me moredriven because I was comfortable
, like because my wife gotpregnant at a time where I had
finally got over my, mydepressive spell, I had just
went full time.

(30:36):
So we I mean we were living itup.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
I was like, hey, blow it did you do the jarrow voice
to everybody that we live in?

Speaker 4 (30:45):
no, no, no, I didn't no I mean, at one point it was
like why don't we go groceryshopping?
We eat now.
Why are we wasting this moneyso we can have snacks because
we're not nobody's cooking?
Um, um.
But yeah, I mean when I I justremember when she told me she
was pregnant, like I've alwayswanted children, so when she

(31:07):
told me she was pregnant I wasexcited and nervous and scared
at the same time.
It was a weird thing.
But I do remember that I hadthis weird lock-in mentality all
of a sudden.
And so I always say she gave mepurpose and now I live for the
smiles.
That's my validation when shesmiles, when she's happy to see

(31:29):
me, when she wants to play withme.
That's my validation that I'mdoing all right.
So I mean she gave me purposeand she cost a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (31:41):
I was waiting on it.
I was waiting on it.
I'll start with you on the nextone, mo.
What's been your biggestchallenge and your greatest
reward in being a father?
The money, the money.
I just wanted to get it out theway because I knew we were
going there.

Speaker 4 (31:55):
My big no, I'm kidding.
Honestly, my biggest challenge,especially being a girl dad, is
being softer.
Because, you can't, I can't.
I have to talk to her a certainway.
I have to be gentle with herand it's not as as as men, as
boys that's what we're not usedto that I'll push you down

(32:16):
upstairs, like what you talkabout.
So it's like it's having awhole different approach, with
her being soft or being playful.
That that has been likeprobably my, been probably my
biggest challenge.
Now, the other biggestchallenge is that, because I

(32:37):
feel like I'd be the same waywith a son, but because she's my
only child and she's mydaughter, I'm super
overprotective.
I'm ready to shoot the schoolright now and they keep fucking
with her.

Speaker 5 (32:46):
We're not going to say that I was going to say that
we're not going to say that Iwas going to say that we're not
going to say that Shoot, theschool is not a good look.

Speaker 4 (32:52):
He's not going to do that.

Speaker 3 (32:53):
He's kidding.
I mean not that.

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Just one particular person.
See how it sounds.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You see, when you hear it out loud, it sounds bad.
Yeah, it sounded bad.
It sounded bad.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
I'll say it like this I'm ready to go to these
parent-teacher principalconferences because we're going
to have some conversations andif this don't work, then just me
and the other father are goingto have to handle this ourselves
.

Speaker 1 (33:13):
Oh, you're going to be wishbone.
Talk with his hands.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
See, I can't even deny that, because it was last
week where my daughter may havetold me about a problematic
classmate and I might havecalled him a bitch ass.
You called somebody child, thatI looked over at Edward and I
said where's that bitch assnigga?
I said oh he, right there.
Okay, motherfucking light.

Speaker 5 (33:36):
But that was just me in that moment, but I can't
relate.
I can relate.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
We don't condone violence here at the Heavyweight
Podcast and we do want you atthe children's school calling
the other.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Look here, I don't.
Look here.
I'm gonna say his name.
Look here to the parents ofwhoever the fuck Liam is oh Liam
.
Oh right, I'm gonna just say it.
If your parents can't afford toget you breakfast from
Starbucks every morning, stopfucking hating.
My baby.
Want to bagel and cream cheese.
So guess what the fuck shegonna get a bagel and cream
cheese.
So guess what the fuck shegonna get a bagel and cream
cheese.
She is seven.

(34:08):
She ain't worried aboutcalories.
This girl work out with 27 000hours a week.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
She ain't gained a pound in two years let me be
clear are we talking to a childright now?
Yes, to the parents, both, allof them.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
So liam, all of them how do we know that liam doesn't
come from like a?

Speaker 4 (34:25):
I don't know the fuck where you come from.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
I'm not going into this.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
I've learned patience .

Speaker 4 (34:36):
Poor Liam.
Liam died by the end of thesehands.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Liam, have your parents call me honey.
I'll sponsor a gift card foryou at Starbucks so you can get
a bagel.
No, fuck it, I'm triggered nowand the same thing go to the
parents of Olofine, why?

Speaker 4 (34:46):
And the same thing go to the parents of Olafin?
Why the fuck did they name herthat Because, just because your
mama, is too lazy, hold on, justbecause your mama's too lazy to
actually cook and pack you alunch and you think you're
eating good because you'reeating Lunchables and my baby
got full meals over here.
Fuck you and your family.
Happy Father's Day y'all Sincewe're adding on Olafin.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
I'm really sorry that that's your name, sugarfoot.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
I got smoke for Arturo's parents and Mike's
parents.
Both of y'all got.

Speaker 3 (35:13):
Ain't nobody messing with your little one because she
look like she a fight.

Speaker 1 (35:17):
Hey look.

Speaker 5 (35:18):
I'm not into, she'll hit you.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
We're all good, everyone's good.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh yeah, hi,yeah, we'll come get you in a
second.
All right, okay, I'll let himin.
We can keep, we can keep goinghere, we got it.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah, okay and uh, do you have your favorite dad joke
?
I do.
I thought we did this already.
I, yeah, I told you a millionoh, and I didn't like none of
them okay we're gonna skip thatone because I'm gonna let y'all
know right now.

Speaker 1 (35:47):
I think I might have chuckled at like one or two, but
I can't catch dad't like noneof them.
Okay, we're going to skip thatone because I'm going to let
y'all know right now.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
I think I might have chuckled at like one or two, but
I can't catch dad jokes, all ofthem.
I had never heard dad jokesuntil I met your niggas.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
What?

Speaker 3 (35:56):
do you call no?

Speaker 1 (35:59):
No, what do you call a man with a rubber toe?

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Huh, what do you call him?
I?

Speaker 1 (36:04):
don't know, roberto Duh.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
Roberto, I do like that stupid ass joke.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
You all right.
You okay that stupid ass joke.
You asked for a dad joke Beforeyou got a dad joke.
Before you got a dad joke.
You can get off, but someonewho said she don't like dad
jokes, it took her out.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
I can't stand y'all like what the fuck.

Speaker 4 (36:40):
It took you out for somebody who said they don't
like dad jokes.
It took you all the way.
The fuck out all the way out.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
I don't think I have a dad joke.
I'm afraid to say one.
Just go ahead and say it.
I don't.
I don't know a dad joke, youknow, at the moment, at the
moment.

Speaker 4 (37:01):
All right, okay, okay okay what's beethoven's?

Speaker 1 (37:06):
favorite, favorite weather no more, what is it?
Oh wait, no, no.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Favorite fruit my bad my bad whatever good like
tomorrow what type of legacywould you guys like to leave for
your children?

Speaker 1 (37:25):
legacy I just want them to be comfortable as fuck
see, that's the thing I strugglewith, that not like I don't
want them to be too comfortable.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
No.

Speaker 1 (37:34):
I want them cool like not what they she already too
comfortable.

Speaker 4 (37:38):
Here's my motto why can't she be?

Speaker 1 (37:39):
here's my motto I'ma make a bunch of money for me and
you get the life insurancepolicy in the house like the
rest of it.

Speaker 4 (37:48):
I'm spending that shit.
I like the way Shaq put it I'mrich.
Oh yeah, Little motherfucker,you ain't got shit.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Well, I'm rich, you guys are all raising girls,
though, and there's a lack ofblack girl luxury, like black
girls really don't feel likethey need luxury in our society.
Give it all to them.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Look here, look here, look here, look here, look at
this as the only child.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Of course she's inherited everything if we die.
If I tell that little girlright now how much she will get
if we die, she might kill usbecause she gonna be living
really good now.
Granted, she can't have all themoney till she get like 25.
Her uncle got control of hertill she 25, but she gonna be
pretty well.
She pretty well off cause shegot well off because she's
getting a house, a tundra.

(38:28):
No, she's getting that becauseshe's spending that every month.
She's getting a house.
She's getting If me and my wifego at the same time.
She's getting a house.
She's getting four lifeinsurance policies.
She's getting two pensions anda 401k.

Speaker 3 (38:41):
She's going to be fine.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
I don't think you should say that on the.
Can we edit that?

Speaker 3 (38:46):
out.
She's going to be doing well,too well.
What type of legacy would youlike to leave?
Because this nigga finna telleverybody what he got in the
bank.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
No, I just told y'all it's negative.
They just took the paymentyesterday.
It's negative, we got shit.
You got to wait till mypaycheck hit.
Oh, I'm sorry You're going tohave to wait until my wife's
child support hits, becausethat's what she's calling it.
It's not my paycheck, it's herchild support.
Once her child support paymenthits the bank, then maybe you
you know, depending on how manyhours I worked last week- what
type of legacy would you like toleave for?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
your children.
I would like to eventuallyleave whatever success and on
the life insurances and thepension.
But just like, if I can makethis podcast pop off that and
what could come from it Juststart dancing naked, we probably
get some views.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
We believe in manifestation.
Here we will not be.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
When do?

Speaker 3 (39:45):
you mean when the podcast?

Speaker 4 (39:47):
goes off, the children will receive a podcast.
Yeah, I don't want to be in theroom.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
That's just going to be odd, sorry, sorry, I
apologize.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
If this nigga keep putting us on the FBI list Wait.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Well.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
You don't want to be in the room.
If he get naked, I'm not goingto be here.
I don't Put we talking.

Speaker 5 (40:05):
I didn't say shit about that Y'all did.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
I was gonna say To show up at somebody else's house
Just Dancing in their garagenaked Is a little odd.

Speaker 4 (40:14):
That's not what that's not.
That's not.
You just said to come in hereand dance.

Speaker 3 (40:17):
I'm not even gonna drive here that day, just call
me at the house.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
I said I said I'm gonna do it.
Well see, I'm not.
No, I didn't say shit about it.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
He did I know what's he doing.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Mcfly is now on OnlyFans this feels like some
Jedi shit right now.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
I'm not doing this anyway, legacy, we were speaking
he just said he wanted to leavethe podcast to his children, my
apologies, residuals that hereceives from that.
Not if, but when.
And then what about you?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
ah, legacy.
He said he want he comfortable.
Oh, ah, legacy you want these.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
Yeah, are you comfortable?
Okay, yeah, okay, I don't wanthim to be like jay-z.

Speaker 1 (40:50):
And what's that song?
Uh, seven a week ago.
This is my dad we're not gonna.
Okay, I don't want to be that.
No, legacy, legacy, legacy.

Speaker 3 (40:59):
This is the last question gentlemen, if you could
give a message to all the dadsout there, what would it be?
And I will answer this one go,you go first no, no, I would not
go first get your shit off.
I don't want to go firstbecause I'm gonna talk my shit.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
So y'all, you, you, gentlemen, go first, my only
message to the dads out there isthat time spent, time spent is
more, way more important thanyou can buy yeah, be there, try
your best, like they're the, the, the, the gifts, the toys, the
ipads, all that shit is going tofade away.

Speaker 3 (41:32):
The memories you make .
That's what's going to holdthem over and you're no longer
here.
I agree, be there.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
Yeah, get in Be there , be there, be there.
That's it.
Be there or be square Show up.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
And that's the perfect message Show up, do the
best you can.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
Show up and show out.
I be trying to show out.
That's why I'm broke.

Speaker 3 (41:47):
Gotta stop trying to show out.
You have a talented child.
That's why you're broke.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
Go ahead.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 5 (41:55):
She cut you off three times.
I heard her.
Yeah, she asked the question tocut me off.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Because this nigga how the fuck Now hold on.
Because this nigga is over heretalking.
I am responding, are respondingto him, and then you're gonna
tell me I'm cutting you off.

Speaker 2 (42:09):
Run it back, he's talking.

Speaker 4 (42:11):
I'm responding to him .

Speaker 5 (42:14):
Run it back.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Wes, he's talking.

Speaker 5 (42:17):
You at least said you McFly, and then and then he's
still talking.
So he cut you off.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
You're supposed to ignore that, no they be punking
me because that's his friend.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
This nigga cut him off.
This nigga cut him off.
This nigga cut him off what'syour answer?

Speaker 3 (42:32):
everybody quiet on the set, I just fly.
What's your answer?

Speaker 2 (42:34):
I said, be the best you for them, because if you
can't be happy, you don't wantthem having a memory of their
father being miserable.
So be the best you for them,because it matters what do you?

Speaker 4 (42:46):
miserable because of them?
What?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
What the?

Speaker 4 (42:48):
fuck, because they keep eating your snacks.

Speaker 3 (42:50):
I'm glad you touched on that, because that's and they
keep drinking your goddamn zerosugar.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
We're not listening to you and you go buy something
just for you and all of a suddenthey love it.
And you can't have shit toyourself and you walk in your
house after working all day andyou tired and they cut up with
your pillow.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Nigga, do you need to Like?
Call your therapist, nigga,Immediately.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Like shit.
Like you got a lot to unpacktoday.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
I'm just saying what if your greatest source of
happiness is also your biggestop?
Sometimes she my op, but I loveher.
Oh my God.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
I have two different words for the fathers.
Hey, this is.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
Mental Health Month.
Right, it is Mental healthmonth.

Speaker 2 (43:29):
Nigga see your therapist.
Oh my God, you cut me off.
I'm sorry.
It's not nice though, is it?

Speaker 3 (43:35):
It's not done purposely.
He said see, it's not donepurposely, I'm not done till I
say I'm done, it's not over tillthe fat lady sing.
I ain't sang a goddamn tune yetnigga nigga bump you cuz I

(43:57):
didn't say bump bump, bump nigga, whatever nigga bum on the east
side.
Nigga, leave me the fuck alone.

Speaker 4 (44:00):
I'm not dead, are you done?

Speaker 3 (44:03):
this has been episode 202 of the heavyweight Podcast.
I guess you did.
I don't got nothing else to say.
I ain't asked for his shit.
This has been episode 202 ofthe Heavyweight Podcast.
Make sure you like subscribe,share all that shit, Comment,
Comment, whatever.
Until next time.

Speaker 4 (44:20):
Peace.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Make sure you go, follow Des the Diva they already
follow me because they know whothe fuck they came to see most
setting up a go find me forhimself.
Yeah please set this nigga up.
A go find me anyways, pleasetell me please, we're done, all
right that's a wrap, y'all.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
That's that's how she wrote, so make sure you click
like subscribe.
Tune in we on the off streamplatform.
So until next time we'll hollaat you.
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If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.

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