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This episode hits deep.
Des the Diva shares a moment of truth after 20 years of friendship—and it sets off a raw, insightful conversation about fake friends, boundaries, and emotional peace. From subtle shade to full-on betrayal, we explore how to recognize real ones and release what no longer serves.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The message behind saying the title of the
Heavyweight Podcast is to beable to say that we can weigh in
on some heavy shit.
What we're talking about isimportant from every aspect of
it.
It's a heavy weight.
It's not just about physicalweight, but the weight of things
that can weigh our minds.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation mind.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Have you ever been friends with somebody and just
thought to yourself I don'tthink this person really
actually likes me?
I know I have, for sure,definitely had a friend for 20
plus years and it took me thatlong to realize that heifer
don't like me.
I'm Des the Diva.
We're back with episode 203 andwe're talking about friendships

(00:48):
.
Today I'm here with these threeawesome gentlemen that I do
consider my real friends.
Introduce yourself.
Don't do that.
I do and I do.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
Introduce yourself I'm sorry let's start on this
side.
I'm Fatigued Hardison.

Speaker 3 (01:09):
And I love it Hardison.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, Fatigued.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Hardison, and I love it how you doing Fatigued.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
Not camouflage.
You, sir Tired.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Why am I doing this?
It's your boy, molito.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Molito.
Fo McFly oh my god, mcfly withthe bars, don't do that while
I'm drinking and, as I mentioned, I'm Des the Diva.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
How was everybody's week?
Let's start over here with Fo.
How was your week?
Mcfly, just Fo-ing it, I'm notgoing to do this with Fo.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
How was your week, mcfly, just Fo-ing it?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
I'm not going to do this with you.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I got off of a vacation, so I was enjoying my
vacation.
I went to the beach.

Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, you did and you enjoyed yourself.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Was it cheeky, oh man .

Speaker 2 (02:00):
I'm not going to respond to that.
Well, what I will say was itwas very therapeutic and
relaxing and I got to see thekids enjoy the beach.
The baby has a death wish.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
Wait what?
Why do you say that he's socute?

Speaker 2 (02:16):
You know he's like oh let's take the baby and get his
feet wet.
And he was trying to gocompletely into the ocean.
I said this motherfucker isfearless.
And every single time he wouldtake it up a notch.
So first it was his feet, thenhe was like, yeah, let's do the
waist.
Then he was like you know what?
Fuck it, I'm going to sit down.
I said this motherfucker isreally trying to get into this

(02:37):
ocean.
And then when you would try topull him away, he would fight
you tooth and nail because hereally wanted to be in the ocean
.
So we left.
Well, he made you leave.
We had to because he was tryingto kill himself.
So we were there for two hours,but we shouldn't have done him
get in the ocean.
Like he shouldn't have got hisfeet wet, because when he got
his feet wet, he wanted.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
Let him in some baby swimming class because you might
have a surfer or something onyour hand.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
You don't want to carry a mountain, Not in the
waves.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (03:06):
Ooh man, I'll go with y'all next time I got them.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Once you break past the waves, it's not so bad.
The only thing is you startthinking what the fuck is under
me?

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Nothing.

Speaker 4 (03:18):
Nothing.
It's going to be a long timebefore you touch the bottom.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
How were your weeks, shannon?
Long time before you touch thebottom, how are you?
Oh, sorry, my my week, uh, oh,yeah, that's good, is it?
Yeah, I forgot I had aninsurance claim.
Oh, things, amen, should happen, life should happen.
Soaked, soaked wood and shitlike that.
Pause, but whoa, whoa.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Whoa, or is that a pause?
No, no, it's not, it's not.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
Sometimes it's wet.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Oh God.
No, that's a pause, damn it.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
No, it's not.
Sometimes it's wet.
Yeah, I don't think that's apause.
How was your week?
Huh, my week was rough, ohsorry.
It really, really was roughmentally.
It was a really rough mentalweek for me.
I had a good therapy sessionyesterday.
Dr williams she does what shedo talk black to me, maybe, gave
me some pointers and, uh, wegot through it.

(04:15):
Man, you know, tired as shit,but we here, ryan, don't stop
shout out to dr williams.

Speaker 3 (04:20):
I feel like she's giving you on the job training,
and then you just come andpractice with me.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
So at any point where spades on the table she
actually did mention spades.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
There was a spade reference.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's funny.
You know what that means.
She, she gets to know herpeople well, and that's the
makings of a great therapist.
So, yeah, shout out to DrWilliams.
Yeah, well, gentlemen, I had agreat week.
I worked on my non-profit thisweek, so it is, did you work?

Speaker 4 (04:45):
on what I texted coming along, um yeah no, I
don't think you did.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah, no, I heard you .

Speaker 4 (04:51):
I texted all three of y'all niggas.
Mcfly didn't respond.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
I heard what you were , what you were saying.

Speaker 4 (04:55):
Well, I texted y'all three different things.
I'm not gonna make it public.

Speaker 3 (05:00):
It was probably yeah no, it caught me off guard I,
but I did hear where you werecoming from and I I do think
there was a lot of validity towhat you were saying now are you
puzzled?

Speaker 4 (05:10):
I'm trying to think it was like on tuesday, monday
or tuesday I thought you said,like you're from baltimore,
first on tuesday I'm trying tothink yeah, well, we'll, we'll
circle back to that, because I'mpretty sure I was dealing with
some kid probably was busy Itexted you something related to

(05:30):
uh.
Stop shrinking yourself in aroom where you should be large
oh yeah, but yeah, literally.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
At that time I was dealing with baby yeah so I read
it and was like, oh and then,yeah, he like you gotta
understand that kid, especiallysince they're on vacation.
He is taking flight and, bitten, like I told you, he bit his
sister in the face.

Speaker 4 (05:50):
In the face.
Yeah, this week.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
On Monday oh, he ain't playing.
He bought that life.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, but that's a you got to damn man, he bought
that life.
How do I stop you, like, don'tsmile at me, like because he's
so cute?

Speaker 4 (06:04):
it's like oh my, look here, phoenix has taken this,
I'm on vacation.
Because she knows, like I don'thave school, I mean I don't
have a bedtime.
I mean I get my screens, thatmeans I can go to bed.
And she's been taking this shitto the max.
I said, okay, look here, we'regoing to give you a bedtime,
because you still have days whenyou got shit to do and we can't
have you fighting us at noonbecause you don't want to wake

(06:25):
up, because your ass went up tothree in the morning, mm-hmm,
yeah, because she had to go.
Things like is it?
What time is it?
Is it 12?
Yet it's 12 at one.
I stay up all night.
Okay, goodbye, aw, just go tobed.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
Trying to stay up.
Okay, gentlemen, let's go aheadand get into these questions.
So, as I mentioned, we aretalking about friendships today.
We're not going to shenan.
We're not going to shenanBecause if you let a nigga
shenan once, what are you goingto do, Maurice?
I'm going to shenan.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
again, I'm trying to shenan again Every time.

Speaker 3 (06:57):
Let's get into these shenanigans.
What does a fake friend looklike to you?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
I'm gonna start with you, me, fly.
What does a fake friend looklike to me?
They can look like anyone to mebecause I've had like what you
brought up.
I've been in many situationswhere I've had people I looked
at like family, that I thoughtwere closer to me than blood,
just to turn out that they, likeyou pointed out, never liked me

(07:23):
to begin with.
They were just faking it.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Don't they just blow your mind, Because it's like
what are you here for?
Like being here was a choice.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It seems like after a while I kind of got to
understanding.
But it seems like it was kindof part of my journey to
understand that you kind of gotto come across those people to
be able to decipher what is realand what ain't.
Cause yeah, it would, it blowsyour mind.
Cause you're thinking toyourself what the fuck Like?
How did I not see that thewhole time?
But and you're telling yourself, nah, they wouldn't do that,

(07:53):
that's, that's my people's andthey were not at all.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I, this side was a fake friend.
Look like to you guys.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
I mean, like you said , it could be anyone, I don't
know.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
I don't know how you tell until they deceive you.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, no, seriously, I think.
I think it's one of thosethings where, once you start to,
when you step back and payattention, that the relationship
really is one-sided.
Yeah yes that's when you startto see it.
Yeah, yeah, it could be.

Speaker 1 (08:27):
It could be multi-sided too.
It could be they, but they'rethey're.
They're feeding you onto yournegative qualities or anything
you know, what I mean like oh,it feels like this is a good
thing, but you're like you,ain't you only here for this,
and wanting to do this Like.
I guess it is one sided becauseit fulfills them but it

(08:49):
fulfills a different part of youthat you probably don't need to
have fulfilled some of thosetimes.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
I think you're speaking.
I think you're speaking more tothe fact that a lot of people,
a lot of people, they like youthe way you are.
So when you, when you start toelevate it forces them to look
at themselves.
Yeah, you are.
So when you, when you start toelevate it, it forces them to
look at themselves.
Yeah, and they don't like the.
They don't.
You know they probably becauseI'm pretty sure I've been in a
situation where people thoughtthey're better than me and as I
start to get better, they'relike well, why you want to do
this, why you know I'm sayinglike yeah, so it's like I, I I

(09:17):
do understand that there arepeople out there that keep
certain people around just sothey can feel better about
themselves yeah, very, very trueI've called it many a time on
people.
You know, like, so like, becausethey look at you as well.
At least I'm not doing, atleast I'm not that bad off.
I mean, it's an asshole thingto do, but I do believe that
there's people out there that dothat I mean, yeah, I believe it

(09:38):
, but I just don't get it.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
But I believe it.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
You know, don't get it, but I believe it.
Uh, you know, verge, I'm gonnaput his shit on front.
But there was a guy that weknew he went to north and his
dude came for money and he wasone of those dudes he was, he
was hispanic but he waswhitewashed so he didn't think
he was hispanic, so he would.
He always kept money and hekept verge around as like some
sort of weird thing to keep likea little power dynamic.

(10:09):
So when he would go around, he'dbe like and I used to tell her
I was like nigga, thatmotherfucker's using you to make
himself feel better, and thethe dope thing about verge is he
was able to acknowledge it andthen start flipping it on him.
So he was like, oh, this niggapays for everything, so I'm
about to use him.
Yeah, so if he's trying to useme for some sort of I'm bigger,
yeah, he just flipped it okay.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
Well then let's go ahead and get yeah six at him,
yeah that's the last thing Itold my wife.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
I said if somebody, if we got with somebody, offer
you a drink, take that drink andslide that motherfucker over.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Tell him, I just like it, man and the dope thing
about verge is when he startedrealizing and acknowledging he
and he ended up like it was onetime I got into it with my dad
back and I just need to get thefuck out the house.
He was like, well, me and fuckit.
His name is Ray.
He was like we're going to goto the strip club.
We're going to LA to the stripclub.
Just come with us.
I said man, I ain't got nomoney.
He's like Ray, so we end upgoing to the strip club, ray's

(11:04):
paying for the lap dances andall this shit.
And I'm like, damn, virg, ain'tstupid.
This motherfucker's using himfor every single like.
I was like, okay, respect, butat first I had to let him know
like I saw that motherfuckerVirg on on Wednesday it was
Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (11:18):
I was like nigga, it's 10 o'clock, what are you
doing?
Still here?
So goddamn, go home.
What were you saying?
I don't know who Virg or Ray is.
Vir, you weren't still here.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
It worked.
Yeah, so goddamn go home.
What were you saying?

Speaker 3 (11:24):
They went to school.
I don't know who Virg or Ray is.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Virg would have been his year.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
And.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Ray was 04.

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Oh, you're younger than us.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yeah, but he used to use money as a way of control.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, there were like none of them, damn kids in
school.
So that's probably why I?
Don't remember most of them.
None, yeah, they're like noneof them, damn kids in school.
So that's probably why I don'tremember most of them.
None of them.
I ain't like none of y'all.
That's why I've been askingaround.
I don't remember you either.

Speaker 1 (11:48):
That's a motherfucking lie because they
come up to me.
She didn't say she don'tremember them and that nigga was
so racist.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
They remembered me.
You ain't ask nobody.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
He was racist, nigga's racist.
Damn, I'm fucked up because Iremember using the proper
context for a word I think itwas like euphemism or something
and he was like you use thatcorrectly.
I said nigga, what the fuck isthat supposed to mean?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
oh, he had that like you speak so well.
Yeah, like he had like thatmicroaggression yeah, racism oh,
I'm glad I don't remember hisass, because would you go fight
him then I'm not gonna fight him, i'm'm not fighting anybody,
but that would have pissed meoff Talking to me like that.
I don't like micro, what?
was it like to you?
I don't know Because, like Ijust said, I had the same friend
for 20 years.

(12:32):
Didn't even know that the girldid not like me Not one of them
20 years.
I think I have PTSD fromfriends so I shy away from them.
I don't have a lot of friendsthat I really will kick you in.
I'll be with dominique.

Speaker 4 (12:46):
that's my girl and that's my girl I saw my girl on
the stairmaster I said, okay,get it did you.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Yeah, she told me you have been following her, um
that you have followed her onher page.
Um, yeah, I I don't engage witha lot of like friends like I
consider the three of youfriends, but I don't have no
whole bunch of other onesbecause I don't trust nobody.
Then why are you always busy?
Because I have a non-profit andan actual job and I have this

(13:14):
and, on a side note, mymicrophone smell like weed yes,
the whole thing smells like.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Yeah, I was like damn , my plant's doing good.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
Then I was like nope, my hair also smells like this
shit, yeah, anyway it went up,it went up in here.
But yeah, so I'm still.
I don't really desire to have awhole bunch of friends, so I
really don't know like what, Ican't help this shit.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
It sucks, but it is what it is yeah, are they
friends or acquaintances there's.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
There's a mix, but I think I I've gained a lot, but I
don't mean to say it sucks,because the people that are
friends are friends and they'reit's great.
It just I attract a lot ofpeople and then you gotta let
shit play out.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
That's because you talk to everybody I'll be
talking to niggas.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
I'll be sitting there sometimes and they're like, hey
, what did I do to make you come?

Speaker 2 (14:07):
go stay.
It's the smile, the welcomingsmile.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
What am I supposed to do?

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Yeah, I mean even that's friendly.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
Yeah, I'm like, hey, what you doing.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Yeah, that's kind of what I do.
I attract a lot of people thatwant to be friends.
I just kind of let things playout.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, I get people who change and I'm like, oh, I'm
trying to force my frowns.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Now the baby has made it hard.
I smile more than I used to andI think people take it the
wrong way.
Nigga, I need the frowns tocome back more to keep the fake
shit away.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
Well, no, damn, this is a tough one.
I think we could Go ahead.
It goes along.
The It'll probably all come outin this how you do that,
because I feel like it's all Allthem niggas are going to be
fake, they're going to be fake.
I'd rather find out.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
You fake than just be like, that's factional.
So, that being said, have yourealized that someone was fake
and it was maybe too late.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
You had already yeah, no, it's happened.
Hell yeah, it's not too late,though.
It's just that's part of life.
Like fuck it.
Hey, nigga, you deceived meyeah that's what it is.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
Hey, we had some good times in that, but I could see,
from here on out there's nomore like I think what I had to
understand is that, um, I can'tsay that I necessarily had a
bunch of fake friends.
I just had to understand that Ican't expect what I would get
from other people.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Yeah, that's a big one, that's very true, so it's
like.

Speaker 4 (15:34):
I don't think they were fake, they just the
friendship wasn't at the levelthat I assumed it was, and so I
just that's the one reason why I?

Speaker 1 (15:51):
just backed off, like I'm.
For the most part I'm doingmyself.
I guess when I say fake is like, because I guess the way I am,
there's nothing to guess.
Like I put it out there andlike whoa pause, pause every
episode.

Speaker 3 (15:58):
Is that a pause?
Y'all so crazy?

Speaker 1 (16:01):
I guess we talk about niggas, but like I, I leave it
out there and like I don't, I Iexpect people to say or be the
same way yeah and then if we'rein a like conversation or
anything where it's like this isa chance to be honest, this is

(16:21):
how I really feel.
And then if you, in turn, actas if that's how you really feel
and then circumstance latershows how you really feel, it's
like whoa, that ain't what thefuck you said to me.
Like so what that was was fake.
So it's like things like that,like I don't know.
It's just like you don't knowuntil shit plays out.

(16:42):
Like you don't know until shitplays out.
You know what I mean.
Like you're like well, why, whydid you do that?
Like if you was just honest,this would have been easy.

Speaker 4 (16:49):
Like this doesn't even make sense I also think a
lot of people assume what theywould do in certain situations
and they don't really know.
Yeah, oh, hell yeah yeah,definitely.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
What about you?
Have you found out somebody wasfake and it was too late?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
you already engaged with that person um, it was my
first rap partner, is the thestory that came to mind?
It was, uh, when I met him, wekind of had a mutual love for
music and I thought he was likea best friend or whatever.
And then as time went on, youwould like you said, he kind of
like preyed on my negative, likenegative thing.

(17:23):
So if I was doubtful, he kindof amplified the doubt.
And, um, so as time went on, Iwould get to a point where I
felt like, and he kind of preyedon the doubt, so anytime I
would mess up or anything likethat, he'd play into that and
kind of make me beself-conscious about myself.
And then it got to a pointwhere when I started finally

(17:47):
identifying, it was when I kindof I think it was when Tejor
came around.
Honestly, because, tejor, Ibrought him into the fold
because we're trying to do musicand Tejor was the polar
opposite of him.
So anytime he would try thenegative shit.
Tejor was like you dope, yeah,like don't listen, you dope.
So after a while I startedidentifying shit and I was like

(18:10):
this nigga always plays on anegative vibe, and this was
right.
After Tejor had passed, we werestill working with each other
and I started pointing out I'mlike nigga.
Tejor told me I was dope, soanytime, I was used to hearing
that at that point.
So I started identifying everytime.
I was like, hey, man, we shoulddo this.
And he'd be like nah, man, weshould just stick to this.
And you're like nah, nigga, Iwant to do this, like I want to

(18:32):
take this, to find the partsomeone plays.
You start saying, alright,nigga, you ain't the people I
thought you were.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
This is where I leave you, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
And he'd beef with me .
Diss me a few times.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
And that's cool, I go , that's fine, that's all.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
But I just had to see it.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
Chat DTP's right.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Shout out to Tejor for being honest with you, tejor
was the one person at that timethat was like you dope.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
And he was like man, fuck what he talking about, you
dope.
And he would always say thatshit and he'd always push that
like fuck what that nigga'stalking about, you dope.
And he never let me allow thatdoubt when I, when he came
around.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
I feel like that's something you don't learn till
you get a friend like that.
It's the friend that push you,that's really your friend yeah
because a lot of times they'regonna say some shit to piss you
off, but then when you sit back,man, this nigga was right like
god damn it like you didn't pissme off, but you were right when
I text you.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
Yeah, fuck off.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
I went through, I went through.
I do have a short story toshare that's pertaining to the
question, but for you, I wentthrough a range of emotions,
okay.
First, when you sent that damntext, first of all I was like I
know he ain't fucking checkingme today.
Then I was like, oh my God,he's right.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
I didn't take that as a check.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
No, it wasn't a check .
I'm a girl, so I'm going to gothrough a range of emotions,
yours was different from theirs.
Hold on real quick.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
Everyone got a message catered towards them.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
Oh, a message catered towards them.
Oh, I knew it was specifictowards me, because it was
absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
It was love, but I was like that's what I'm saying
I went through a range ofemotions and then I said he's
like this, he likes me more thanhe says, I literally broke out
crying.

Speaker 3 (20:12):
Then I had to put it together, then I had to smoke.

Speaker 4 (20:15):
I was fucked up for a little minute I knew you was
fucked up because you kept you.
I said this only thing.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
You're asking follow-up questions this nigga
one of these, because at thispoint, where are we going with
this?
yeah I did.
I had to know you.
You were accurate, though youwere really, really accurate.
I think it's very because Idon't have a lot of I haven't
had a lot of friends.
Let me, let me be transparentabout me and friendships.
What actually happens is I pickthese bitches that I don't have
a lot of, I haven't had a lotof friends.
Let me be transparent about meand friendships.
What actually happens is I pickthese bitches that I don't need

(20:42):
to be friends with and befriends with them hoes and it'd
be like a whole host of positiveass black women that want to be
friends with me, and I'd belike I don't know, should I be
friends with them?

Speaker 2 (20:54):
And I should, because they're all dope women there's
been a lot of trauma and that Ibe friends with them and and I
should, because they're all dopewomen.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
There's been a lot of trauma.
There's been that's really whatit is.
There's been a for, inparticular, the friend I have.
For 20 years we trauma bondedevery bad, sad, horrible thing
that could have ever happened inlife.
We went through it together.
We've been friends since fifthgrade, so everything horrible
she's been there.
So I was associating her withlike everything that has
happened.
She's a part of that, so I needto stick close by her, have her

(21:21):
back.
The story that I'm going toshare I had another friend and I
had shared with her that I wasstarting to notice that the
other friend was kind of likeonly fucking with me.
It was real transactional, likereally like what can I do for
her type of a friendship?
And it was hurting my feelingsand I had been going through um

(21:43):
a time where, like, all of mymiscarriages were weighing on me
tough, like tough, tough, tough.
I normally like beast throughthem, but occasionally maybe
tearing me up.
So I was going through thattime and the 20 year friend was
pregnant and just had anabortion.
This friend turns up pregnantand asked me if she could take

(22:06):
the abortion pill at my house.
Why the fuck would you thinkyou can do that here.
And her answer was well, youwould do it for the other girl,
so why are you not doing it forme?
That's when I realized that Ihad a lot of people that were
like Waiting to see what I wasgoing to be able to, to prove to

(22:28):
them what I could give them.
Not, hey, let's be like therefor each other, because I still
tried to be there in thecapacity to which I could, but I
couldn't give you too much.
You can't have a damn abortionat my house.
My damn son is in here.
We hide my miscarriages fromhim.
So why would I let yourabortion be out in the open with
him in here?
And why would you think I wantto be a part of that?

(22:50):
As much as that I'm goingthrough.
She stopped talking to me, ain'ttalked to me since, blocked me.
I was actually friends withthat particular girl's husband.
I don't think he knows exactlythe full conversation that her
and I had, but he doesn't speakto me anymore.
He still follows me, but hedoesn't talk to me because it
makes her uncomfortable.

(23:10):
But that particular situationshowed me that I had been over
fucking doing my job infriendships and the minute I
took a break from over doing mydamn job.
It was a problem for these hoes, so that's why I got friendship
PTSD.
I ain't wanna be friends withthese bitches that's the thing
the second you put boundaries.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
The people who are only with you for what they can
gain, they don't like that shit.
I get distant, real.

Speaker 3 (23:36):
They don't like that shit.
Yeah, they definitely ain'tfucking with us.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
You spot on.
For that one I got distant.
You see very clearly who'sfucking with you and who's not.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
I think it's nuts, though when it's like I said no,
that should be okay yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
You're being allowed to say no, and the crazy part is
I still tried to be help to her, so I said no, because you
can't do it at my house.
But if you go, somewhere else,like I'll show up and help you,
I'll bring you food, I'll comein.
You know, even though watchingsomebody have an abortion, I
don't judge nobody, but I don'twant to watch it.

(24:13):
It's hard for me, I don't wantto watch it.
It's it's hard for me.
I judge, I don't pass judgment.
I don't know what circumstancesin this particular girl's
situation she would have.
She had already had a baby andit almost um took her life.
So I understood to a degree.
But also you know that this isthe narrative when you be
fucking.
And and why would you even putyourself in that?
Damn you know.
But but who am I to judge her?

(24:34):
You know what I'm saying.
I, I don't pass judgment onnobody.
Do what you feel like is bestfor your body, but don't try to
include me in it.
That's it.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
The only thing I hate about when why?

Speaker 1 (24:44):
did I say no, leave me the fuck alone.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Right.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
The only thing I hate about when my fly gets in this
distance mode is everybody asksme what's wrong with Andy and
I'll be like text that nigga.
Oh, you can't, then you don'treally matter yeah.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
No shut up Cause I don't know his phone number.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Then you don't really matter.
I said what I said.
No, we're not doing that.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
We're not doing that.

Speaker 4 (25:07):
I said what I said yeah, you ain't shit, I'm not.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
I keep telling them that, kevin, they you hush,
because I didn't know yournumber until my birthday you
text me and I was like who isthis?
I don't need your numbers.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
I'm messing with you but I do like they do the same
shit with me and you, so it'salways the question of what's
going on.
It's like like you can, like hesaid, if you had access to him
you would know.
So if you don't have access,then guess what?

Speaker 3 (25:39):
you're not that important okay, so let's address
when we're petty.
Let's let's talk about whenwe're petty.
What's the pettiest reason thatyou've ever cut somebody off?
Because they cut me off whatthe most petty?

Speaker 2 (25:53):
what's petty?

Speaker 3 (25:53):
uh-uh, no, I felt.
No, we.
I know you could be pettyjackson petty murphy, but I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Uh, I get petty as fuck.
I, my dad, raised me to be thatway.
Oh shit, the pettiest.
No, I'm not, I'm not goingthere.

Speaker 4 (26:20):
This is a safe place.
You're safe here.
Now.
The internet's not safe.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I was gonna say we're safe for now the pettiest
moment I've had recently wasprobably with my brother when he
tried to buy my dad's car offyou, oh no.
I upped the price, so I knowyou probably say no yeah, yeah
he said no, didn't he he?
Said no, he never.
He never texted back.

Speaker 4 (26:45):
I'll fuck with my brother so clearly, clearly, I
mean, we can make it.
So I told, I told my mom, youknow, my mom, she's getting
older, she can't really do forherself.
And you know, kevin inspired mebecause his mom says she can't
really do for herself.
And you know, kevin inspired mebecause his mom says, well,
he's just a good son.
I'm not that.
So I told my mom, I said youknow what you can move in, but

(27:09):
you got to give me your wholeSSI check.
Oh my God.
She was like can't give you thewhole check?
I gave you maybe.
I said nah.
I said loads, I could do with820.
He just heard of it, nah, 820who?

Speaker 2 (27:23):
my mom, your mom?

Speaker 4 (27:24):
yeah, not my mom.
Damn, they're 820.
But I want the I 100, but I'llsettle for 820 you beat me now.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
Yeah, I don't think anyone is pettier than that.
Um, do you have anything, kevin?
I'm never petty, so I don'thave this problem.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
I'm covering all her expenses see, I'm petty in other
situations, but not that shitlike what's another ride?
I don't know.
I'll just do little petty shitfor no reason just because huh,
yeah, like malicious complianceis how I I'm petty I'm what
niggas like that at work yeah,oh, you want me to do that okay
some favors.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
I never forget I was like, oh, when you, oh, boy,
when I get the opportunity yeah,I'm never petty.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
I'm petty with my wife, are you never petty?

Speaker 1 (28:15):
ever.
I'm not never petty, I'm pettywith my wife, are you really
Never petty?

Speaker 3 (28:17):
I'm not never petty.
I'm petty with my wife.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
I have a really hard time believing.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
Even hard, as you want to with your time Pause.
I'm not petty, I don't do pettyshit Because, no, I don't you
petty with your wife.
You said, yeah, leave my friendalone.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
I mean that happens you petty with your wife?

Speaker 3 (28:38):
you said yeah leave my friend alone.
I mean, that happens, that's.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
I do.
I do the thing where, like whenshe has something I want to eat
but she don't want but she wassaving the flavor I hide it, and
then she's like did you eat?

Speaker 2 (28:48):
that I'm like yeah, I ate it.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
I think you want it, then I let her get mad at me and
then once she's mad at me andwe've gotten over it, then I go
actually get in to eat it,because I've already done the
time.
So now I can eat it and we cantalk about it.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
You are just.
That's not petty, that'strifling.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
I had a nigga moment the other day.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
What'd you say?

Speaker 2 (29:08):
I was driving down the Minigoni by my house and I
glanced over, I said in thestreet, and I realized it was a
jordan and I almost stopped andran in the middle of traffic to
grab him well, no, you had apair, it was a pair.
One was in one lane and one wasthe other and I said, should I?

Speaker 4 (29:23):
hey, should I risk it you know, it was a trap nigga,
that's.
You know what happened.
He pissed her off yeah, yeah,no they look clean too.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I was like shit I was like that was a trap.
Yeah, I said is there ahomeless?
Was Dez over here?
She did it.
Motherfuckers out the window.
That was a trap, yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:37):
I said is there a homeless man in Dez's over here
about to hand?

Speaker 1 (29:39):
him off, because I sure would have yeah, I mean
niggas probably got hit fallingfor that trap.

Speaker 4 (29:45):
We got one Because they be doing 85-90 down the
road.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Hell yeah, they do Shit.
Shit.
A blue, yellow, whatever I said, these look clean.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Yeah, that's an angry moment I contemplated getting
out.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
I said shit.
I said they're probably noteven my size.
Speaking of petty, you couldhave sold them man yeah, but
what if they weren't what I was?
What if they weren't?

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Jordans.
Oh, maybe that's why they threwthem out.
They're from Taiwan.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
They're Jorkins and I'm over risking my life for
Jorkins.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Not they from Tyrone.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
That motherfucking jump man got a ponytail and they
go like you know it's like.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
We were risking it for the biscuit.

Speaker 4 (30:28):
Air packs.
He had a pair of air packs.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
I almost died today.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
What was your biggest ?

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Wow, this friend is fake moment um biggest wow, wow
doesn't have to be a friend thatcan have that wow moment no,
you have it with anybody therewas this time.
There was uh in high school.

(30:58):
I won't say the nigga's name,because you'll know him.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Can you tell me after ?
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
So he spent about a day and a half Not even a day,
it was.
That morning he went aroundbecause, no, he had spent like a
couple weeks trying to persuadethis girl to take her to a
dance I can't remember if it wasa winter formal or a fucking
prom so he was like, oh, and hefinally got her to say yes.
So she, that morning we all raninto him and he was like man, I

(31:26):
fucked, I fucked behind thebleachers, we did this, this and
this.
And I'm like and then, likeeveryone's like, you did that,
you did that, my nigga.
He was like yeah, man, I fuckedso fast forward to after school
.
And she I give her the mostrespect in the world she came
straight up, like she didn'tcome at him like sideways, she

(31:46):
just came straight up.
So you're out here tellingpeople you fuck me, huh.
He was like I didn't say thatshit.
I said, nigga, we just all sawyou bragging about it, though I
never said anything like that onyou, I wouldn't lie on you like
that.
She's like so you're out heretelling people you fucked, huh.
And he was like nah, nah, Inever said that.
I said this is the fakest shitI've ever seen Because he was

(32:07):
standing on business thismorning.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I can't wait till this old you tell me when I did
baby, what, and I looked.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
I said my like.
I looked at her and I said,nigga, that is the fakest shit.
And I respected her.
I even told her I talked to herlike recently.
I said, hey, I know youprobably don't remember this
story, but I just wanted tocommend you for how you because
you didn't come at he, didn't.
She didn't come at me wild, andshe literally just came at me

(32:34):
straight up, like so you sayingthis, huh, and he's.
I didn't say that that wasn'tme, okay, but yeah, that was the
fakest mom I ever seen in mylife and that's not a friend,
that's just yeah.
On some shit, I'm like nigga, I, I was standing right next to
you yeah whatever, he was scared.
Yeah, she likes you about towhoop his ass.
She was going to, for sure, andhe was like I can't the size

(32:56):
comparison?
She would have whooped his assshe's gonna go get Baby D.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
She didn't need.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Baby D, that's what I'm trying to say she did not
need Baby D.
Yeah, that was a life lostright there if he would have got
his ass whooped.
I don't know.
I think to be honest and that'sa hard one is it was me
actually who was the fake friend.
Oh, oh, do tell that was it waswith a chick and it was fucked

(33:24):
up because it's like, oh, that'sdifferent, it is, but it's not
because we were friends and shit.
But then you know you're tryingto fuck feelings and things.
And then whatever, yeah well,yeah, and then I guess some
nigga was she ended up beingwith somebody and then like I
was all like all sad and shit,and then the nigga did something

(33:45):
and like was away, and then Iwas all happy and then she
pointed that out and I was likemotherfucker, you're right, I am
being fake as fuck like that.
I was glad that we were friendsenough to have that
conversation, but that shitsucked because I was like, damn,
that is kind of shitty.

(34:05):
Like you're supposed to bethere for somebody, like when
things happen.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
So he was over there being a sideline.
And I'm just like yeah, he wasa sideline nigga.
He was waiting to get called inthe game I was one and didn't
know it does that count so therewas this girl.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
she was like really really into me.
I was like 18 or 19 and, uh,she used to come to me to like
parties and she was like reallyreally throwing it at me hard,
so, um, so at some point Icalled her up when I, uh,
something was happening.
It was a party happened.
I hadn't talked to her in acouple of months.

(34:43):
So I uh and I called and herfiance called me back and he was
a military nigga and he waslike so nigga, you out here
calling my girl.
I said, nah, man, I'm a highschool friend, bro, we're just
friends.
But in my mind I'm like youdidn't tell me shit about.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Well, you was, uh, you was going to be Jody.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yeah, like call them.
But, I remember in that momentI had to switch up real quick.
I was like no, I'm some.
Oh, so you went to school withher.
I was like yeah, but in thatmoment I realized what was
happening.
I said did she even tell meshit?

Speaker 1 (35:19):
That's not a sideline .
He was about to be Jody andjust set up for the okie doke
shall we you calling my baby?
Vic or you was on a, she was ona break, alright that shit was.

Speaker 2 (35:36):
I just remember thinking, oh shit.
I said, I'm never calling thischick again never again, it's
probably wise.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
Yeah, I don't have an answer to this?
I don't really have an answerto that either, but what he just
said brings me to the nextquestion.
Have you ever been the fakefriend?

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Oh yeah, there you go Boom.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
No.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
I don't think I have.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
I don't think I've ever been the Because.

Speaker 4 (35:57):
I've never associated myself with people for what I
can get.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah, no, I don't think I've ever been the fake
friend, but I will tell you thisI've had bitches do shit to me
and the shit I do back to thembe.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
It'd be heavier than this motherfucker podcast,
because baby the hard part totell would be how do you know,
unless?

Speaker 2 (36:16):
they let you know.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
You know what I mean.
You don't know what theirfulfillment is to them, or like
they could be, like I don't know, it's a tough one like that's
where I'm saying I wouldn'tprobably.
I guess I would have notnoticed that unless I was called
out on that.
You know what I mean.
I don't know if I've been afake friend.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
I fucked a friend up.
I've never hit one.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
No, that's crazy, that's not fake.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
We fought.
I was like six.
I was an asshole.
I slammed his head into theside of a TV.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
I felt bad afterwards .
See, this same friend that Ispeak of punched me so I
wouldn't drive because I wasabout to drive drunk somewhere.
And he's like we're not goinganywhere.
And I was like, yeah, we're notgoing anywhere and I was like
give me the keys.
And I was like nigga.
And I was like you right, okay,I appreciate it sometimes you

(37:06):
need friends like that a punchsaved me from drowning.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Okay, hold on a punch saved me from drowning.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Okay, hold on.
A punch saved you from drowningis that what you said?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
yes, that's what he said do tail, yeah so I'm not a
strong swimmer, especially atthis time I wasn't.
So we went to Bobby Bonds Parkand we were playing in the pool
and I jumped and I couldn't swim.
So my friend uh I'm not gonnasay his name because he, oh,
like I said jamel, uh he saw medrowning so he went out to get

(37:39):
me and I was like flailing likearound that motherfucker said
stop moving and I wouldn't.
He just, yeah, one one quit.
Just I went fucking stiff andhe pulled me out and he was like
sorry, I had to hit you, butyou were flailing.
So he punched me and I justwent limp.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
He was the same age.
Yeah Well he knew some shityeah.
He had been through some shityeah that's what they tell you.
Like hey, if they ain'tlistening, you just, you gotta,
or they're gonna die, You'reboth gonna die.
That Are they going to die.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
You're both going to die, that's yeah, shout out to
him for not letting you die.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
I like that punch.
Save my life, the punch savedmy life.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I didn't even get mad , I understood.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I was like oh, we're going to die, that's like what's
going to happen?

Speaker 4 (38:24):
You can't be mad, yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Okay, I said I was acting.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah, you're right.
Well, yeah, I don't have anystories where I've been a fake
friend and I normally don't dopetty shit in my friendships.
It be them damn relationships.
I be doing the petty shit.
Yeah, what well you shouldnevermind.
I didn't do nothing petty tohayden's daddy go ahead, what's

(38:51):
the next?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
but I had a.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
I had an ex-girlfriend and she had a
secret relationship with herbest friend behind my back and I
found their secret checkingaccount and I slept with the
best friend to get theinformation, to get the money
out the account.
So it wasn't really petty, itwas really just like I'm finna,
get back on the get back howmuch money was it?

Speaker 1 (39:11):
Go ahead and bless my cash.
That's also petty too.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
It was quite a bit, quite a bit.
Yeah, that's well thought yeah.
Go ahead and bless my cash,yeah, you should really use
these stories on TikTok.
I feel like I should, becausethat one was a dozy that's two
stories on here that I would beinvested hey, baby, you'd be
like Reese, and Tease is gonnaget you a movie like shit just

(39:34):
don't end up on Tubi no, she gota movie they got that hold out
for Netflix it's on Tubi, yougotta move off that shit.
They making a movie on FirstStory.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
I can't wait to see it cause, baby, that shit had me
on the edge, edge of my damnseat shout out to recently um,
okay, so then?
what red flags and friendshipsdid you used to ignore, but now
you like hell, nah, anytime it'sone-sided absolutely absolutely
like I don't do friendshipswhere I have to, where I, if I'm
always the one initiatingconversation- okay, I'm a female

(40:08):
, so I don't do do well, whenother females come on too strong
, like if you're too eager to bemy friend, it makes me nervous.
I'm not good with that.
That's weird.
Good, it's weird.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Any time I pick up on someone trying to sway my
personality, like so they'retrying to get me to act
differently than who I am Like.
When I pick up on it quick andthey be like, oh, you should do
it, I'm like are you telling meit's a helpful thing or is it
more of a like, a?
I always felt like when Iidentified it, it was them not
actually saying they accept meas a friend, but like they want

(40:43):
me to be something else in orderto be my friend.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
I get that.
It's kind of like you cool, butif you did this you'd be cooler
.
Yeah, I get that, I've got,I've had that.
I've had people do that to metoo and I'd be like bitch no,
I'm like they don't like me.

Speaker 4 (40:55):
For me, you should release those raps which ones
all of them which raps?

Speaker 1 (41:02):
all of them.
Kevin, you could tell themjokes.
I see what.
I see what's happening hereplease tell them jokes what
jokes?
All of them?
Don't know.
All of them, you're so funny.
I used to be funny.
Now I'm a nigga who sits on thebackyard.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
And while we're telling people what we need from
them, if I can get two vibechecks on Wednesday, that would
be great.
Even if I can just get aWednesday and a.

Speaker 1 (41:22):
Thursday.

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Vibe checks.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
I wake up for the vibe check, but I digress check,
but we but, but I digress youmean the dances, she's, she's
referring to what we're doing,or the singing I mean, yeah, I'm
, I said the dancing like Iliterally wake up for a vibe
won't you?
Won't you send some comments?
What you vibe checking?
Oh no, I comment on every lastI know but you got a vibe.
Check the vibe like hey you gota vibe.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Check the vibe check yeah, and and I can.
I'm like I love the boom.
Okay, um, let's see.
Do you believe in friendship?
Expiration dates, hell?

Speaker 1 (41:59):
yeah, yeah, yeah, they just run the course excuse
me bitch.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
I think, yeah, it's very common to outgrow people
yes, there are expiration datesin friendships relationships.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I got some cousinships, bitch, you're
expired.
We ain't in cousins no more.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
Yeah, I mean, I just feel like some of them are on
the course.

Speaker 3 (42:20):
I got an ex-daddy right now.
You get what you get out of him.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
You have an ex this nigga.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
That's not real, this nigga Ex.
It's not real, this nigga.

Speaker 3 (42:29):
Ex-nigga.
I don't give a fuck.
I got a few ex-siblings.
Them niggas don't.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
I know about that.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
I'm going to fuck.
Okay, as soon as you get tofucking with my piece and they
don't feel peaceful, no more,I'm letting you know right now.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
I get very distant.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
Hold on.
My daughter just did remind me.
A couple weeks ago, when I wentto my grandma's party, my
daughter met her aunt for thefirst time.
My baby's, my dad's youngestkid, maya, and I'm supposed to
buy her.
She's only like 20 so, butshe's short, so she's short, so
I think it's like I'm almost astall as my auntie.
I like this one.
I said go in there, get hermoney.
She got two jobs.

(43:04):
Uh-uh, uh there and get hermoney.
She got two jobs.

Speaker 3 (43:06):
Uh-uh, uh-uh.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Get her money.
I just made me think about that.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
She's cute.

Speaker 4 (43:14):
She's super, super cute.
But I definitely have.
I have cousins, man look hereyeah, Cousins siblings.
You can count on one hand howmany cousins I've talked to.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Swear to God, I got an ex-daddy.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yeah, I talked to all my brothers and sisters though.
I talked to my brother Mike, hedoing good.

Speaker 1 (43:29):
I don't take that as like a no Requirement.
I guess, what's that?
Just like I know niggas that Ilove to death, that we probably
won't check in and treat eachother.
For like but it's not expired,it's on hold.

Speaker 3 (43:47):
Yeah, that's not expired.
I don't care about the check in.
That shit had me rolling.
We were out for 7 years andthat nigga just called me.
Maybe it's, but it's notexpired, it's on hold.
No, yeah, that's.
Yeah, that's not expired.

Speaker 1 (43:49):
I don't care about the check in.
That shit had me rolling likewe were out for like seven years
and that nigga just called mewas like hey, I'm just calling,
say what's up, see how you doing.

Speaker 4 (43:57):
I was like hey, man yeah but I don't know, I just I
got, I got, like it's justunderstanding, we've grown, we
got kids, we got family.
Life is life and you know, hey,man, I'm thinking about you.
Oh, I appreciate it, bro.
You good, yeah, I'm good.
You good, family good, allright, all right, I'll talk to
you again in six years, yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
No, I have people like that.
Well, touch base again.
You know, what Like I can tellif you give a fuck about what's
going on or if you're just likebullshit.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
You know, what.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
I mean yeah, they just hit the rails already.

Speaker 1 (44:35):
What I don't know.

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Hold on Side note, this is on another episode.
Yesterday my wife was like sowhat time do we have to be at
Cabin for Fourth of July?
I said who said we're going toCabin for Fourth of July?
I said wait how do you got?
I said, are you?

Speaker 1 (44:50):
Amanda talking like what's

Speaker 4 (44:51):
going on here, listen no cause, we're here the 5th oh
yeah that's it always happens.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
I'll bring a.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
I'll bring a blanket to sleep on the couch that's
fine, we got.
We got cots and shit too, yeahwell, how the fuck do you just
have content?

Speaker 4 (45:07):
but I'm like how are you making plans in somebody
else's house?

Speaker 1 (45:09):
like who the fuck does this?
That's, I mean, that's ourfault, cause, like every
Superbowl comes around, they'relike so we coming to your house
and I'm like Niners ain't in it,gang.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
But I guess, I'm not bad.

Speaker 4 (45:28):
It made me think about that.
I was like are you making plansand you know?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
what's funny is Amanda was just talking about
that.
She was like they've beentalking.
She was like.

Speaker 4 (45:34):
No, I believe she might have been.
They've been talking, kevin.
She might have been cause.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
She was like I think we're having it at our house and
I was like, well, have you toldpeople?
You probably said at our house,so they coming to our because?

Speaker 4 (45:47):
I was like she's like what's your plans?
Before I said that I have noplans.
I don't plan on cooking, I planon doing shit like oh well,
it's like are we going to campus.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
I was like nah before I go to the next question mcfly
, did you have any red flagsthat you used to ignore, that
you don't ignore anymore?
But I answered did you answerit?

Speaker 2 (46:05):
yeah, the the the whole trying to yeah, change you
change me, why not?

Speaker 3 (46:09):
yeah, that's right.
Then, weird ass motherfuckersyou.

Speaker 4 (46:11):
That is correct, yes, yes yes, that's right, and you
forget to answer the endquestion I I just was exposed to
a large amount of marijuana Iam fighting for my life here are
you fighting for your life asfar as hunger, or just in the

(46:32):
sense of both?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
the room is shrinking .
You had to pay attention to theepisode.

Speaker 2 (46:40):
I was over there like yeah, you were down when the
smoke was going to her face.

Speaker 3 (46:46):
I was like, oh shit, I didn't even notice, but he's
so nice and he looks socomfortable and I just wanted
him to be comfortable.
He low-key reminded me of mybrother.
He's so chill and I just wantedhim to be comfortable.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I just thought I saw how nice he was, because when he
noticed it he went oh shit yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
And then tried to fan it.
I got you girl.
Sir, I'm already high, butthank you.
See how sweet gentlemen.
So how does social media makeyour fake friendships easier to
hide, Hide?

Speaker 2 (47:18):
Hide or expose.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Oh, that's the way you spot it, baby.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
I think you're spotting it.
Yeah, the question is hide, butI definitely think that's how
you figure it, the fuck out.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Oh, this is how you really feel.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Huh, that's how you figure it the fuck out.
Oh, this is how you really feel, huh that?
And when I sit back and I thinkabout, like some of the shit I
done, let slide, I let some ofthese bitches slide.
These hoes thought they was iceskating and that's really what
didn't happen.
The friend for the 20 years.
Every time that tramp gotanother friend, that bitch did
not like me.
Her new friends never liked me.
You are talking about me withthese bitches Damn.

(47:48):
I wasn't expecting that shit,get the shit out of me.
I just told you I'm fightingfor my life and you're going to
sit over here.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
I said what the fuck just happened.
But it's the truth.

Speaker 3 (47:59):
Every time she had several friends and she would
meet these girls and they wouldnever.
She would never unite us.
We could never go out and havegirls day or lunch or anything
like that.
She didn't want them bitchesaround me.
It's because she was talkingabout me that makes, that makes
sense yeah, baby, now that I'molder and I'm like starting to
see things, I'm like what thehell?
Because she could come around,all my friends, because we ain't
dogging you on this side, butyou dogging me over here.

(48:22):
So, yeah, no, definitely socialmedia tell you everything you
need to know, baby.

Speaker 1 (48:27):
Yeah, you can't, you really can't cheat no more,
because social media you gottaget your old woman shit I
facebook I don't yeah I thinkthis is a bit of a tangent, but
I said this to somebody one time, his friend of mine.
We were chilling and he came bythe house and we were just

(48:49):
kicking it.
But it was like I forgot who Italked to and I was like, yeah,
that's probably like the lasttime I'll talk to him.
He's like, well, what the fuckyou mean?
I was like, I mean you couldkind of tell sometimes when you
sit down with somebody andyou're like, yeah, this ain't
I'm out, yeah it's over like itwasn't anything bad, but it was
just like, and it probably feltlike it was like a mutual thing

(49:10):
cause, like after that it waslike neither one of us gave a
fuck, like we didn't try tocheck and see what was what it
was just it, just kinda you knewand like I don't know.
I just I thought about thatright now.

Speaker 4 (49:21):
I think that goes a long line of like.
I think that's just like malefriendships at all.
I was like we don't?
We just kinda like you findsomebody, you guys kind of like
have similar hobbies, or youmeet you at the same place every
day and then you slowly starttalking and then you hang out
and then you just get to thepoint where, like no, this ain't
what I thought it was gonna be.
And then you just kind of youjust kind of walk away.
It ain't no, it ain't been nofighting or nothing like it's

(49:43):
just you ain't gotta explainwhat's understood, like yeah,
women's friendships are so catty, y'all be going through like
you literally have to.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
You have to be equally yoked with your female
friends, like you are with yourspouse, like that sounds like
too much work and it's the truth, though, your female friends
kind of have to be like ifyou're sure of yourself, you
need to be friends with bitchesthat sure of they self, because
if you're not friends withbitches that are sure, they said
I've had like other.
You guys see, I wear whateverfuck I want to put on.

Speaker 4 (50:09):
I've had women we talked to you about it and I
don't give a fucking.

Speaker 3 (50:12):
I'm a key and I'll talk to you about what.
You got old too, thank you verymuch.
But I've had women be like ohare you sure you want to wear
that as a bigger girl?
Because they want to minimizeme, because I step in the room
so goddamn big, and when youhave to, I have to have friends
that are as big as me.

Speaker 4 (50:28):
And I, yes, I do, yeah, Personality.

Speaker 3 (50:32):
I'm not talking about plus size wise, but if plus
size bitches want to be friends,I'm here for it.

Speaker 2 (50:37):
She's talking about, but I'm talking about
personality.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
I have to have friends that step in a room as
big as I do Like.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I have a friend and she's a small girl.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
I can say her name on .
Her name's marshay.
Marshay's a model she step inthe room as big as I do shout
out to my baby, she steps in theroom as big as I do.
It's easy for us to be friendsbecause she's not competing with
me, I'm not competing with her.
We elevate each other.
You get what I'm saying, yeahwhat I'm on record as saying.

Speaker 4 (51:04):
I have no problem picking that stomach up and
going to work.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Look here.
Okay, I'd be so tired of you.

Speaker 4 (51:18):
That's what I meant, though, by friends there.
I told my wife that stomachain't stopping nothing.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
And it's probably the same thing with you being a
rapper.
You know what I'm saying.
You have to have people thatare as confident in their music,
as strong in their lyricalability as you are, because
otherwise they're just're justgonna fucking hate on you.

Speaker 2 (51:31):
That's the most of the scene.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
When you like, you do what I'm saying though like if
they can't do what you do, theyjust gonna find a reason to hate
on you and suddenly you're.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
They don't want to work with you for some reason or
somewhere.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Yeah, you, yeah yeah, no, I, that's what I mean.
We're gonna start a new raprapper.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
I'm gonna be the first Chad GTV rapper.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
I don't know if you're the first.
You're not.

Speaker 3 (51:50):
Yeah, I don't think You're going to be the first one
to say it out loud.
We'll say that You'll be thefirst one to say it out loud,
you'll be the first one thatgives credits.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
She's not my only friend like that, all my are.
Like that.
They they're sure of themselveswomen's friendships are so
catty and so competitive thatyou kind of have to be equally
yoked in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (52:17):
Okay, I don't think guys we like that.
No, you're not.
That's why most of my friendsare male okay well, I mean, yeah
, you gotta, we understand yeah,no, I get that.

Speaker 3 (52:24):
That's why most of my friends friends if I got a
friend.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
You told me hey, man, you didn't call me today.
Nigga I'm now.
I'm never calling you what didyou say?

Speaker 1 (52:32):
if they ask why, you know like now, I'm never calling
yeah, no, I get it what kind ofsensitive?
Shit is this yeah they

Speaker 2 (52:43):
call you an ex up, they call me hold on hold on,
hang on real quick, let me textyou this shit.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
No, don't do that so look, if you could put a warning
label on fake friends, whatwould you say?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
that warning label should say like a warning level
as far as to stay away from youuh-huh, like if you could put it
on that fake friend.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
So, for example, if I could put a warning label on a
fake friend, I think it wouldsay um caution, this person
won't allow you to protect yourpeace yeah, I like that one, oh
mine would just say uh, I'm notwho I say straight to the
motherfucking point.

Speaker 1 (53:27):
Nigga, I lie give it six months, then I'll let you
know who.
I am like damn nigga like whylet's just get that shit out the
way.
I could have saved a lot oftime on gas and shit.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
Yeah, shit I agree with all that that's so funny,
mcfly.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
I think the only thing I can think of is like the
one I see.
I think the only thing I canthink of is like the one I see.
Quite frankly, growing up was,I think.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Maurice pointed out was the warning friend is cool
with you as long as you don'tsurpass them, which is so weird.
Like I like to see my friendsat any level.
If you're elevated and you'reabove me, great.
Like you might have some tipsto help me get there.
If I'm elevated, great, I'mgoing to reach down and grab you
.
Like I don't understand it,like it's so crazy to me that
people think that way.
Like hell you don't wantsomebody as good as you are
better.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
I don't know if this is shallow with me, but like I'm
at the point now where I onlywant friends that are doing
better to me.

Speaker 3 (54:31):
And that.
But that makes sense.
That makes sense.
I'm trying to learn, you'regoing to learn, I'm not trying
to take your shine.

Speaker 4 (54:36):
I'm just trying to observe what you do and apply it
to my life.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Yeah, no.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
I don't guarantee it's working for you, but this
is what's working for me.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
You know, I get that.
We have two more questions.
Guys, so describe a fake friendonly using a movie title.

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Foolish that's my favorite movie, too, is it.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
My grandma gave me that goddamn right.

Speaker 3 (55:10):
I'm laughing at my answer.
What's your answer?

Speaker 1 (55:12):
is it like a current movie any?
Movie the secret life of WalterMitty, these lying ass niggas.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
I'm gonna go with liar, liar don't be a minister
society while drinking yourjuice in the hood I said do we?

Speaker 3 (55:42):
have a problem message.
Last question what do you thinkthe fake friends catchphrase is
like?
What are these?
What's the line that thesemotherfuckers all say?

Speaker 2 (55:59):
he doing too good.
I don't like that shit.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
I feel like because they want to hide who they are,
they say things like don't worry, I got you.
You don't think they even hadthat.
I've had that.
I've had that so many timesfrom a fake friend what?

Speaker 2 (56:13):
no, I normally get the.
It's usually the ignoring onpurpose shit that's crazy as
hell.

Speaker 3 (56:19):
Yeah, we're too big for that.
Like with a big grown age, youignore niggas and they do, they
double back.

Speaker 2 (56:27):
I see you got a podcast.

Speaker 3 (56:29):
Oh yes, I've gotten that a lot and it's strange,
like people who didn't like mein high school.
Oh my gosh, where can I come onthe podcast?
For what?
What do you do?
I'd be like ask McFly.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Please refer to no, um, let me see, I would probably
say like, uh, um, like McFlysaid, they they either avoid it
or they try to, or they try tobelittle what you do, mhm yeah
like oh yeah, that littlepodcast.

Speaker 3 (57:02):
Yeah, don't minimize my shit.

Speaker 4 (57:04):
Like oh, so I see you lost a little weight.
Somebody said you lost a littleweight.
Yeah, I see you lost.
I see you lost a little weight.
Somebody said you lost a littleweight yeah, I see you lost.
I see you getting a little inshape.

Speaker 3 (57:12):
I'm trying you at the littles, yeah you and your wife
out here killing the game wehad that but I forgot what it
was.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
But it was family like and they didn't, it wasn't
to me, but they said somethingand we all was like damn why you
got shit on nigga like that,it's like oh, I didn't mean it
like that, my bad, but um, butyou know, when they yeah, oh no,
you could definitely tell.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
You could definitely tell you're like that's a little
salty, that's weird it's funnycause I've had people mention
like oh, I see you doing apodcast.
Oh, okay, cool, you see thepodcast you don't share it?
But then you be in my inbox.
Hey man, what are you using for?
And I and I look at it and I'mlike red.

Speaker 3 (57:51):
No reply yeah, no, yeah, that that happens to me a
lot too absolutely no support.
But then you want to askquestions or you want to be on.
I get that a lot too is it acatchphrase.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
You said what's the?

Speaker 3 (58:05):
yeah, what, what do you think?
Like, the, the um, fake friendslike catchphrase, is Something
that all of them is saying.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Here you go, suck a mean brother.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
The slogan.

Speaker 4 (58:16):
How much for one rib, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Yeah, it's kind of hard to answer that because the
fake friend comes in so manydifferent forms.
Got him, they say everything.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah, they will kind of hard to answer that because
the fake friend comes in so manydifferent forms, got it.
They say everything.

Speaker 3 (58:31):
Yeah, they will say any and everything.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
But they never take accountability and never say
sorry.

Speaker 3 (58:40):
Oh, never, never, never, never.
I literally had my 20-yearfriend tell me that I was a fake
friend to her.
I gave that half a car so shecan get back to my house anytime
she needed to while I was atwork.

Speaker 4 (58:52):
I need a car.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
I'm not going to give you a car.
I did things for her I wouldnever do for nobody else, ever
again.
She fucked it up for everybody.

Speaker 4 (59:01):
That sucks.
Yeah, that's unfortunate.
I'm a good guy too.
Yeah, you are, I'm a good guyyou are.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
I'm a good guy you are and one day when.
I'm financially abundant.
I'm a bless your cash.
I know this has been anotherexcellent episode.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
I'm a fun guy of the heavyweight podcast.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Make sure you like, subscribe, share all of that
shit in the words of Maurice.
Comment everything weappreciate, you watching
everybody, peace that's a wrap,y'all.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
That's that's how she wrote, so make sure you click
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So until next time we'll hollaat you.