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This week we’re talking about fake love and secret haters—the people who smile in your face but talk behind your back. We share personal stories of finding out the truth and why so many people fold the moment they get called out.

We also get into how to handle these situations without losing your cool and what it really says about you when you’re the topic of conversation. Sometimes being talked about is just proof that you stand out.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The message behind saying the title of the
Heavyweight Podcast is to beable to say that we can weigh in
on some heavy shit.
What we're talking about isimportant from every aspect of
it.
It's a heavy weight.
It's not just about physicalweight, but the weight of things
that can weigh our minds.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Your nigga digga flies in the trap.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's good.
This is episode 208 of theHeavyweight Podcast.
I'm your anti-social hostStuddard McFly.
Back again with these two guys.
Go ahead and state your namefor the beautiful people out
here it's your boy, boyPositivity Still Still positive.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
So you just go by Positivity now.
More lethal, better world peaceyeah, the angriest peaceful
nigga out there.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
But Kobe passing the ball, that's my favorite
interview.
The joy in that nigga's face.
Kobe passing the ball.
Kobe passing the ball that's myfavorite interview.
The joy in that niggas face.
Kobe passing the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Oh my god, kobe passing the ball this nigga went
from having hands to havinghope from hands to hope.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Make that a shirt.
I'm gonna say it go ahead ashirt.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
Shit I got.
I'm gonna say it Go ahead.
He is hope Because, like I'msure, in high school he was in
the same class from thebeginning to end.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's not nice, Kevin.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Damn Kevin.
Can we get your name first?

Speaker 1 (01:47):
uh meta world peace meta world beef yeah, I don't
want hell nah nigga run up.
I heard your little podcast,hey, hey these jokes I didn't
find that shit funny.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Palace number two how were your weeks?

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Good man, we just counted down the days to first
day of school.
Finally get back to the regularschedule, because she has been
living her life Been doing lightschool shopping here and there
she's growing like a weed.
I need some help.
Yeah, I said, you ain't got nocousins.
Have you seen somehand-me-downs?

(02:31):
I'm living my best life Shit.
I ain't got time.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
We are almost to the junior section Smile bitch,
smile bitch.
I think we're in the juniorsection.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I know we shopping at Young Girls, girls.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
This is ridiculous um , yeah, you triggered me, just
disney man yeah it was.
They were happy that's.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
That's important.
That is important.
We tried to warn you Don't,don't.
Don't learn from my mistakes,Don't do it.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yeah, I don't got gas .
We don't have gas Like in thehouse, car oh Cause I don't got
money, but they was happy.
That's all that matters.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, you know, I mean if you for most people,
yeah, happy, hey, did you take?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
them to.
Uh, did they go to uh, uh,bibbidi-bobbidi-boo and get
their their princess makeover?
No, they had.
But you know it's cool becausegraceland got to ride like the
big rides and stuff.
She was finally tall enough, sothat's fun.
We didn't.
I know chicken strips and shit.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Man, you gotta sneak it in yeah, I know about that, I
do naked the only thing I thinkabout disney now is I get tacos

(04:01):
.
After that taco place is firetoo yeah yeah, I didn't do that
that's the only only reason forme it's worth it, because I
don't get joy from the constantwalks and dad buy this and dad
buy that, and then you'relooking at it like you know how
fucking expensive that is theonly thing I enjoy is downtown
Disney, where the food anddrinks are, and I don't drink
and guardians.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
I don't drink either.
I get burdens now.
I usually be, I sound rapey Iknow it is what it is how was
your week?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
I've been good man.
I'm mad I didn't talk about itlast episode, but this week I've
been heavily invested in that.
That that clips album, oh anduh.
That that chains and whips hasbeen my theme song for the last
three, four weeks, three weeks.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
How's your ginseng?

Speaker 2 (04:49):
I just know niggas want to know the T on me where?
Here's the ginger root.
I generate residuals.
Bitch, get off my genitals.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Mars.
They're a good group.

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I said that nigga.
I said he that was angryKendrick was with the smoke.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
That was an anchor he has like I said, therapy showed
me how to open up.
It also showed me I don't givea fuck I'm pretty sure round one
is about to continue yeah, andthat's the thing about that was
that verse was made during thebeef, so we're getting a a
delayed.
So that was, kendrick, in theframe of mind during.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
Not like us, yeah, it's I think what's funny thing
is that if drake does circleback, I know this is not, we're
not talking about what did Imiss?
Not if okay what I want iseuphoria part two, and I want
the other 15 minutes are youwaiting?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
my what did I miss?
There's a reason he recorded.
He's like this nigga's comingback, like that's why I said
there are no round twos.
I still got 10 in the tuck,maybe 50 now.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
What did I miss?

Speaker 3 (05:57):
All of it.
The nigga had all of Londoncalling.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.
What did I miss?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, that nigga's a clown.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
But anyway, that's been my thing, music for the
last two or three weeks and I'vejust been using it as
motivation and you can listen tothat shit about two times,
maybe two and a half at the gym,the whole fucking album.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
It's only like 40 minutes.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Yeah, so if you got a good gym session, you'll go
through that whole.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Nah, because that first track is kind of sad.
It's not really good.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's a good running song, I think.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Like I said, it motivates me.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I like sad stuff and things like that to run to.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
You zone out into it.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
I know Malice is rapping his ass off, though
Malice been rapping his ass off.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
That's why I was like when people were like push your
teaser, but I said, okay, y'allhaven't listened to Malice the
whole time Since Grindy.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
Oh yeah, top tier, top tier.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
So, other than that, I've just been working and, uh,
staying under the radar, hittingthe gym.
That's it.
So uh, continuing on continuingon this before we get into this
these, these, these questionsthat are culminated by the shit
that goes on.
I got some questions for youguys.

(07:27):
The Shanann Nannigan, would youor would you not, is what this
one's called.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
Would you not share your phone password with your
partner?
I wouldn't.
She got my life.
She has my location.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
So yes.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, I would.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
You would, would you or would you not go through
couples therapy?

Speaker 3 (07:49):
No, I ain't doing that.
No, I would, I would oh youdidn't answer the first one.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it's not a wouldit's already done?
Yeah.
Yeah, in the couples therapy.

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Why not in?

Speaker 2 (08:05):
the couples area.
Would you or would?

Speaker 3 (08:06):
you not, are you going?

Speaker 1 (08:06):
to answer these questions.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
He didn't answer the first one no for the first and
maybe for the second nah yes orno?
Alright, no, it's, would you,or would you not?

Speaker 3 (08:21):
that's yes or no.
Is it yes, I would?
Would you or would you not move?
Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (08:25):
is it?
Yes, yes, I would, I would.
Okay, okay, would you?
Or would you not move to adifferent city for love?

Speaker 3 (08:30):
no for love.
No, no, love is an emotion.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah you would for love no for money, love of money
, let's go no love of money, Iwould she might move with me.
We might go to seattle wouldyou or would you not tell her if
her cooking was terrible?
Yeah, I do yeah, I would, I doyou what?
Yeah, I would when it is.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
I didn't at first, and then I was like I shouldn't
do that, because then I'm gonnahave to eat this again.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
I do it without saying, I just don't eat it um.
Would you, or would you notstay friends with your ex?

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean, it depends on how I went down.
It depends on how I went down.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
I mean I would yes.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
You would.
I guess we have to, yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Sure, yeah, unless it was like some weird pitch.

Speaker 2 (09:21):
Would you or would you not let your partner read
your old DMs?

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You would you, or would you not?

Speaker 2 (09:26):
let your partner read your old dms yeah well, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, no, uh, wouldyou or would you not take
relationship advice from yourmom?

Speaker 3 (09:34):
no, I would not yeah I would.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Would you or would you not cry in front of your
partner?
I have, I would yes, oh, Ididn't answer the other one.
Fuck, no, uh, uh, I I have.
So, yeah, I've cried in frontof my partner, um, um we answer

(10:02):
okay, but doubling back to theother one from mom fuck, no, uh,
would you or would you not goon a double date with her best
friend and her man?

Speaker 1 (10:15):
yeah, unfortunately, I mean I shouldn't say it like
that, I like them, but yes, Ijust like, don't like a lot of
double dates, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
I would, because I have.

Speaker 1 (10:28):
It depends on the date, but yes, yes, I would.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
I don't know if I ever have.
I don't see the issue unless Idon't like the nigga.
But yeah, yeah, I don't see.
Or if I don't like the friend,I'll just try to avoid it.
I'll call.
Would you or would you not datesomeone who makes more money
than you?

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Oh, I would In a heartbeat.
Is she out there?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Yeah, I told you I was trying.
She said I drank too much.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
So I would, and I, yeah, I would, and I'll be
trying to lock it down.
Try to leave me.
I'm like joke's on you, bitch,I'm pregnant.
Would you, or would you notshare a bank account?

Speaker 3 (11:15):
I would, because I do .

Speaker 1 (11:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
Cooked.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
I have and I don't think I would again.
Would you or would you not giveup your boy's trip for her't
think I would again?
Would you or would you not giveup your boys trip for her
birthday?
I would.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
I don't think I would have a boys trip surrounded
around that this is just beggingfor trouble.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
So yes, I would you know why I feel like I'd be with
her all the time.
I'm with y'all niggasoccasionally.
Alright, I would give it up?

Speaker 2 (11:45):
yeah sure, why?
Because I gotta be with her allthe time.
I'm with y'all niggasoccasionally.
All right, I, I would wouldgive it up, yeah sure, um.
Would you, or would you notpost your relationship on social
media?

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I would.
I don't really care, I think Ido I do not I think I do would
you or would you not plan awedding?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
no, I'm not doing that shit yeah, I attend, but
I'm not part of it, that's fun,that's fun.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
It's fun watching people try to scam you too.
You're like nigga, this is notworth that much you lying.
You're just doing that becauseof the price or because it's a
wedding.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
I'm only planning if I'm getting paid.
Would you, or would you nottake dating advice?

Speaker 3 (12:28):
from your single friends, no yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah, I don't have a single friend.

Speaker 3 (12:40):
Which way?

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (12:41):
Which way are you going?

Speaker 2 (12:42):
I don't have single friends.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Oh, I thought that was a double 100 it could be
what's the hot, take it how youwill.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
What's the hot place to go?

Speaker 2 (12:50):
you know I'm saying dukes, I'm like ah, we can't.
No, no, no, not that.
Where are we?
I'm not trying to pick upbitches like uh, yeah, uh, would
you or would you not datesomeone with different political
views?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
yeah, I would don't bother me, as long as they ain't
crazy with her crazy.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
So if she just wore a maga hat all the time you just
wear a hat.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
I mean you just.
I mean you just want trouble.
I see what we're doing here Now.
It depends on you know what thehell it look like, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:32):
Would it be right If she was on some slavery with a
choice?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, then you're like oh, you're out of your mind
.
This isn't politics anymore.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
You're dealing with the female Kanye.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Oh man why?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
are you bringing that up?
I was talking to my homegirl.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
And I was like this is the first nigga I ever seen
trying to try out for theIlluminati.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
Illuminati.
Try trials is wild, that'scrazy.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Would you or would you not let her choose your
outfit?

Speaker 3 (14:10):
I would I have.
Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 2 (14:13):
We know that nigga do .

Speaker 3 (14:14):
You seen the shit.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
he wore that shit be fly.
That's one of those things whenpeople come up to me.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Some lady came up to me, some of the busts like fuck
it nigga if y'all don't knowLike fuck.
No one lady came up to me Underthe bus like fuck it nigga If
y'all don't know Like fuck.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
No one lady came up to me and she was like wow, I
just love how you're like you'redressed like you're on vacation
.
And I was like all right,that's cool Like thanks.
Thanks, lady.

Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's kind of like the backhanded you just don't
give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
I definitely had on a vacation vibe in Walmart it was
like a Hawaiian shirt, no thewhole Hawaiian outfit Like top
and bottom Matching.
She just looked and she waslike.
I was like, oh shit, she'sabout to come talk to me, Fuck.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I shouldn't have been all happy and shit.
She had a past love in Hawaii.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, she probably like oh my God, I got to go say
hello.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
We made love under the starlight and ate spam.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Wow, I wish I could tell you what I, my kids are
here.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
You know it's a delicacy.
She got real meat and imitationmeat.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
You look like a guy I saw in jamaica, like got her
groove back.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
Got her groove back I don't have an issue with it, as
long as it looks dope.
Yeah, the outfit yeah, it'sjust yeah would you, would you
not skip a game night to watch aromantic rom-com with her?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
I'm watching rom-com.
I like actually I like romanticcomedy.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
What's your?

Speaker 3 (15:49):
favorite.
I like comedy Along Came Paulymake it rain.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, absolutely love
actually love actually uh, allof them actually I like just
friends, I like day ryan ramosday, night too day night's funny
, that denzel part, I guess it'slike.
It's like you can tell nose,can't you?
She looked back.

(16:17):
He was like now did he say hewas Denzel or she's like?
Actually I stopped him fromsaying who he was.
I said yeah.
So what kind of car did hedrive?
A BMW.
I said damn nigga.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
He was pumping his own ass.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
It was not Denzel sweetheart, I have no issue with
that.
But yeah, just friends is my.
Would you or would you notpropose if you weren't 100%
certain?
No, I would not.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, it seems like if you're not certain, you
shouldn't be.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
So you wouldn't just take a leap of faith.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
That's not a leap.
That's not a leap.
Usually, when you're doing thatleap, it's like oh, I know,
this is locked down.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
We locked in.
We ain't switching out.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
That's gotta be awful , no.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Like the motherfucker that proposed at Yankee Stadium
or something, and they gotturned down.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
Hold on.
Did you see the shit where theguy, his proposal idea was to
fake like they were gettingrobbed in a liquor store?

Speaker 1 (17:21):
yeah, that's, I can understand I'll say no, I can
get a note to that I canunderstand that where it's like
no, she's like I want to marryyou, but like she's literally in
the back crying, the robberhands in the ring.

Speaker 3 (17:32):
And then he asked and she's like she's fucking
traumatized.
She thinks she's about to diethis content space she may not
ever want to see you again.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
It's content space.
She might say yeah, but everystory you go into is trauma.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Yep, so would that be a trauma bond?
He created it yes, so would you, or would you not take her last
name if she asked?

Speaker 1 (17:56):
hell no he said that without prejudice it's actually
I never really thought aboutthat one, because I've talked
about guys who've done it, but Idon't know.
I don't know, it depends on thedetail.
I guess the reasoning behind it.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
I think it'll be.
It depends on the last name forme.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
That I don't know.
I've heard some.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
So what last name?
Well, so what names wouldn'tyou take I?

Speaker 2 (18:25):
wouldn't take.
Yeah, uh, I just want to makeme sound bad, I don't want to.
Can I plead the fifth Cause?
If, like, if it was likesomething like I don't want to
complete the fifth Cause if likeit was like something like I
don't want to offend anyone outthere Like gaming?

Speaker 3 (18:42):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:44):
Cause I feel like people would play with that.
The people I know would playwith that too much with me.
They would be like, hey, what'sup?
Gaming?
You'd be like you know whatShouldn't have, took it, but
yeah or something dope like itmight force me to change my
first name it was like somethingwith black or black man because

(19:04):
I understand black man.
You'd be like, yeah, I am blackman so you changed your whole
name yeah, just just again hey,this one call you Liam.
I am black man, I like it.
It's like yeah, man, I had tochange your own name yeah, I
guess yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Did A$AP Rocky take Rihanna's last name?
Does she have her last?

Speaker 3 (19:27):
name he should.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
That's the one exception she's not like Sade
huh, she has a name she has aname.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I forget her last name, it don't matter.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
What's behind her last name?
I'd take her last name.
Yeah, absolutely, I'll takeyour first name, if that's what
you want me to.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
Or like Olivia Wilde.
If it was her last name, Iwould change my first name to
Living Living Wilde.
No, okay, don't get divorced.
Living wild no, okay, alrightdon't get divorced.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Are you living wild?

Speaker 2 (20:05):
alright, let's get into the shenanigans.

Speaker 3 (20:07):
I figure shenanigans open up the mind.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
So this is, I guess, the continuation from last
episode.
Now, this is the other side,the flip side.
The other side is inspiring.
This is just, I guess, thecontinuation from last episode.
Now, this is the other side,the flip side.
The other time is inspiring.
This is just straight up hate.
So, as I said in the lastepisode, sometimes people notice
you and it's not in the rightreasons, but for the wrong ones,
and this is how that getsculminated.
Anyway, when did you find outthat someone hated you, or and

(20:36):
how did you discover it?

Speaker 1 (20:48):
damn, uh, I don't know about hated me.
I know I had some shit at uh,the theme park where this nigga
just kept coming up with stories, where I was just like, well,
why is he talking?
Why is he talking about me anduh?

Speaker 3 (20:59):
I guess he just didn't like me.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
I guess he didn't like that I I got away with what
I got away with.
I hate Kevin.
I hate, hate, hate.
Well, no, I mean, I don't knowif he like hated me.
He was just hating on me onetime where we got something done
and he wasn't there.
He's like, well, what are youguys doing?
He's like you didn't do it andyou didn't ask me.
He's like, well, we got it done, we didn't need to wait for you

(21:25):
.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, I
don't know, I guess I don't payattention enough.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
I got one for you.
Nigga, you gonna act, amnesiawhat amnesia nigga a
motherfucking named Devin hedidn't like me.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
He didn't like me because he was a bitch but I'm
saying, he ate it on you.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
And then you found out in an interesting way, shout
out to another dispatcher youknow what I mean?

Speaker 3 (21:57):
it was obvious.
Well, you know Devin.
So his existence is so minute,it don't matter.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm saying that's a way to know someone dislikes you
in a very very oh yeah, veryclear.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
Yeah, I mean anytime you're trying to regroup, you're
trying to recoup people to joinin.
Yeah, I mean anytime you'retrying to recruit people to join
in on your hate.
What are you doing with yourlife?

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah, oh, I be hating on one nigga, though, Cause
fuck him, he's a piece of shit.
So is that bad to hate on apiece?

Speaker 2 (22:38):
of a piece.
I don't know what you'retalking about.

Speaker 1 (22:40):
It's not, it's I don't want, because you know
niggas might see it as shit andbe like oh we'll talk about it
when the camera's off yeah, Idoubt he'll see it, but the
recording will still be goingthough that's fine, that's fine.
We'll have the bts.
That's fine, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
We'll have the BTS.
I'll shit between Devin, thecoworkers that say slick
comments and you find out inpassing about us having what
they call the little podcast.
They got a little podcast.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
That shit is what generally is, I don't know.
I usually discover it becauseyou'll find out someone that you
know, that they don't realize,you know, will say it in passing
, like hey, man, they weretalking about your, they already
made a statement about yourpodcast, and you'll be like, oh
okay, all right, like and it.
That.
That's where I usually find outabout it and, uh, it's kind of
interesting because it's it'sdone in slight jabs where you've

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you can tell that the, themotivation behind it is like me
and mo pointed out, uh, when, so, in this realization that's,
they could be doing the sameshit and they just chose not to
yeah before you knew?
did you ever sense any tensionand if so, how did you interpret
it?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Before I knew it.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Tension.
So with Devin or whoever thatyou.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
I knew he was a bitch first time.
Yeah, I mean.
Yeah, I mean you could.
I think you can always tell bythe way people react to your
presence, like you don't evenhave to talk to them.
You can be like thismotherfucker did not?

(24:27):
He's not.
He's not too fond of me, whichyou know.
In most cases I'm like.
You have every right to feelthe way you feel.
Just don't come with thebullshit.
When you come with the bullshit, that's why I got the issue.
You came with the bullshit, youhad the issue.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
I wanted hands, but yeah, I like money gotta eat,
yeah, um, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:56):
I think nothing particular.
I feel like it's just littlethings start happening, like you
said, the little words orlittle comments or uh, uh, like
questioning.
It's like if you're at work andsomething like, well, why is
such and such going to do this,or and I, why can't I do this,

(25:17):
or why is it like that,questioning, like if you're at
work and something like, well,why is such and such going to do
this, or why can't I do this,or why is it like that?
It's like, why don't you justworry about yourself?

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Like I think things like that is like People don't
believe in that shit they got to.
They have a whole a classdedicated to you and shit like
hey, they were like man, why isthat they're never here on
friday?
And it's like what the?

Speaker 1 (25:42):
fuck are you?

Speaker 2 (25:43):
worried about what I'm doing for how come?
You know one guy how come younever have?

Speaker 1 (25:46):
to do this and I'm just like why?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
why are?

Speaker 1 (25:49):
you asking me that, like, everything that needs to
get done gets done, so the restof it is bullshit.
Leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Yep, I pick up on it at work when it happens.
But like I told Mo when one ofthe particular situations
happened recently is I have tobite my tongue most times when I
pick up on it because I canpick up on the immediate shade
thrown and my response is if Ishoot back because of the way my

(26:20):
brain works, it's gonna go farleft and I'm like do am I worth
it?
This?
Is this situation worthpotentially getting into a fight
or possibly getting intosomewhere?
Now you're in the back officetalking to a fucking manager or
some shit and and I'm likethat's usually the thing that
keeps me from taking that route,because what I wanted to say in

(26:40):
that was going to go.
It's kind of like you took ashot but I'm taking us to hell
in this next moment.
And that's usually how Irespond and I try to bite my
tongue because my brain goes far.
I'm like is this warrant metaking it there?
Because what I was going gonnasay was gonna make that
motherfucking feel away.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
I feel like if you, if you go too far in any
situation, don't go to the backoffice, just leave.
You're like oh, I know I'mgetting fired, I'm not gonna go
ahead this conversation, I'm out, like I wouldn't have got fired
in that moment, but hisresponse would have dictated
what happened.
That no, yeah, I'm saying likeif you just fire on a nigga,
you're like I started it, so I'mnot.

(27:20):
Can we meet you in the office?
Like nothing, my uniforms inthe front seat.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Here's the keys but yeah, it's definitely one of
those.
Like I said, yeah, I try toalways analyze the situation
before I do it, because I whatmy brain automatically goes to
is like this is gonna go farleft fast, and I've done it in
the past.
I did it in high school.
I would one person's responsewhen I what I gave back yeah, um

(27:47):
, how did you feel learn tolearn that the dislike was even
hatred about you behind yourback?

Speaker 3 (27:55):
it don't bother me, and I didn't really care Because
, again, I always talk about theDevin situation.
It's like you have no power toaffect my day, so I don't really
care.
You can be mad all you want,you know, clap your hands and
get glad.
For fuck's sake, it doesn'tbother me.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
This nigga is 85.
Fuck me, this nigga is 85.
I actually usually think whatthe fuck did I do?
First Like to see if it's me,and then I like analyzing it.
I'm like, yeah, none of thatwarrants any of that.
That's just some hater shit andthat's cool.

(28:35):
Then I wonder, like how longdid?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
you feel this this way, you do a lot more thinking
than I would.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
I don't even think about that shit.
I just think, damn, how the?
What the fuck am I doing?
That as far as?
What kind of dope move am Imaking that makes that that you
couldn't like ignore, like thatas far as like.
So I'm not doing a good job offlying under radar, because
you're blatantly obvious thatyou notice everything I'm doing

(29:03):
which is well.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I'm drake, though with that.
I'm sorry.
Who?
What did I miss?
Oh, that's how I be yeah, andthen I'm over it, like after I
go all right I didn't do nothing.
Yeah, I guess I should think ofit different.
I don't know, I go, I ain't donothing.
Yeah, I guess I should think ofit different.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
I just I never.
I just it's like, damn, you'repaying attention to me that much
and I'm not.
I don't even notice you.
You know what I'm saying.
Like that's the, that's how Ifeel.
I was like I don't know.
It makes me sound like somesort of arrogant.
I don't even notice people whenthey, when they, when that
happens to me, I'm like nigga,we're, we're living two
different lives.
Right now.
I don't pay attention toanything you're doing.
You're paying attention toevery move I make.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
That'd be the weird part.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Don't you got some shit to do.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Fuck you, worry about me for.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
We, you have enough time.
Is your rent paid?
Fuck nigga.
Yeah, did you.
Don't get me started there, didthat?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
experience change the way you see yourself or the way
you trust others nah, nah, Ithink somehow it makes me.
Nah, I don't think I change.
So I still stay at the pointwhere I'm like, cause I guess
recently I had some shit, butit's like I guess recently I had
some shit, but it's like Iguess people are just going to
be who they are.
But I can't close off, but I'mnot going to be as welcoming to

(30:25):
some shit.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (30:28):
got more to lose in my situation.
The smoke was brought to me, soit didn't change how I felt at
all.
I didn't start to.
I felt at all.
I didn't start the smoke, Ijust entertained it.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
I really feel like it doesn't necessarily change.
I've never seen it change how Iview myself.
I always well, no, I'll takethat back, not my trust in
others.
It changes how I view myselfonly in the thing that I must be
doing like some ball smoothshit for you to notice that shit
like that makes you feel likedamn nigga I'm.
I must be that guy, that kindof like yeah, I must be that guy

(31:06):
, because if if you're thattalked about when you're not in
a room, you must be that guy,I'm the nigga.
So um, I'm no one do you thinkit's ever possible to completely
avoid being hated, even withoutknowing it?

Speaker 3 (31:23):
I think it is if you just put your blinders up and
just focus on what in front ofyou and what you want to do and
don't pay attention to outsidenoise.
I think it's very, verypossible.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
I think that's what I generally do, but but then when
?

Speaker 3 (31:35):
it shows up, I'm like , oh, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (31:38):
I didn't know what did I do.
How did I do that?
I thought I was doing me.

Speaker 3 (31:42):
Alright, Drake.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
No, I don't cry about it.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
No, you said, I'm doing me, you living life right
now.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Yeah.
I don't know these niggas.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Thumbs up.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Who the fuck is.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Dawes.
All right, that's enough, Drake.
I did say that, huh.

Speaker 2 (32:04):
Have you ever hated someone without really knowing
them?
Yes, how did that realizationmake you feel?

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Yes, I'm sure I have.
Yes.

Speaker 2 (32:12):
Yes, okay, what's the realization?

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Nick Sean, you know what I've had this happen, a lot
like damn, and you know whatthat shit always came up to me
like.
Somehow I end up hanging out ata party or something with some
niggas and just be like youain't who, I thought you was,
you actually kind of.
And then they usually like damn, nigga.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Like that specific thing always tend to happen with
the pretty boys.
I know the niggas that werelike getting all the bitches and
you looking at them like thisnigga, every bitch, like this,
and then you look and you talkto him like I can't even be mad
cause you, chill as fuck they bethe chillest nigga you like.
I can't even be mad, I get itlike.
I get it like, not on some gayshit, I just get it like they be

(32:57):
the chillest nigga you like.
That I can't even imagine.
I get it Like.
I get it Like, not on some gayshit, I just get it Like you're
the chillest motherfucker I knowLike and you be like I can't
even imagine it.
I get it, oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Absolutely, and that's just funny.
I'll tell the nigga though.

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Hey man, it's one of them realizations in that moment
, like damn you like him too,damn you like him too.
And then you start talking tohim like I get it.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
I get it, this nigga's, just he's that guy
before I talked to you, nigga, Icouldn't stand your ass.
That's how Kevin feel.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
I be drunk usually when I tell him wow, really.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
I don't harbor that kind of feeling towards anyone
until they give you a reason tolike this.

Speaker 3 (33:41):
There's definitely people I get a bad vibe from.
I wouldn't say I hate them, Ijust avoid them.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Yeah, but I usually don't.
I can't, I don't operate inthat way when I feel like a
person has shown me a weird vibeor whatever.
I definitely it's, it's theavoidance distance thing but I
usually don't.
I don't walk around going fuckthat nigga and like it's usually
one of the things where I pickup on some shit, I'm like that's
not cool, so I'm gonna justit's usually like an action.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
I seen and I judged him off of one action where
you're like you probablyshouldn't do that to nobody.
That's one act.
Unless it's some egregious shit, then it's different, but
that's how it gets.
I guess that's how it happens.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
What I thought about the time when a nigga at work
where old boy ran over old boy'slunch and he tried to.
I'm gonna just give you fourdollars that shit pissed me off
I said nigga, you just literallyran over his whole lunch and
now you trying to four.
I'm like yeah, man, I'm justkidding.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
I said bro like you destroyed his lunch bag, you
just destroyed.

Speaker 3 (34:37):
I had more than lunch in this bag.
My nigga, like he was acting sononchalant.
I was like and everybody wastelling him hey, bro, stop, whoa
, whoa, whoa, and he just didn'tgive a fuck.
He just kept backing Like fuckit.
Then he pulled forward and ranback, that's the insult he
didn't like him.

Speaker 1 (34:54):
That was on purpose.
I got $40.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
I'm not going to even offer more.
All right, let's explore thisdeeper.
What's more painful beingopenly hated or realizing that
it was people that hit it fromyou?

Speaker 3 (35:12):
I don't know Cause, I don't think I care either way.
I think I'm going to say thehidden because if I know that I
can distance myself, because Idon't think I care either way, I
think I'm going to say thehidden because if I know that I
can distance myself and I care,but if it's hidden and I'm
interacting with you and you'rehiding it, well then I learn
that I might have yeah, hiddenwould be worse yeah, way worse,
unless it's like a big ass groupof people openly hating when

(35:32):
you're like damn, it's Damn

Speaker 2 (35:33):
is all y'all niggas like.
I know my answer for this one,but I want to see what you guys
say.
Why do you think people you cananswer the first one, god damn
it.
The hidden.
Only reason why hidden would beis only because I feel like I'm
a pretty good reader of people.
So when it happens and it getslike misses my radar, I'm like

(35:55):
damn nigga.
Now I'm feeling dumb aboutmyself Like I.
How did not pick up on thatshit when this nigga was hating
on me?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
You more mad at yourself.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
Yeah, I'm more mad at myself Like I didn't catch this
shit.
All right, um, but uh, why doyou think people sometimes keep
their hate secret rather thanconfront you?
It's cause they out or swung onher, my bad.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I think in that point it's probably more envy than
hate.
It's more jealous, and theydon't want to acknowledge the
fact that you're doing betterthan them.
So they heed to themselves.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
I'm going to go to heathen levels of shit.
It's because they pussy.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
I just always think it's interesting when you kind
of expose it, when you pick upone and you ask the question.
You ask a simple question andthey start getting really
defensive.
You're like nigga, like I justasked the question and you see
that reaction instantly.
It's like a defensive no man,it wasn't even like that.
And you're like what, what?

Speaker 3 (36:57):
was it?
What was it?
What was it?
Yeah, yeah that one.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
I told you that when I um first got dating and I can
find out a chick, the guy thatyou know like the girl you that
you were dating and I actuallyplayed the voicemail and he's
talking shit, so I like I, shesent it and I saw him maybe like

(37:24):
30 minutes later and I was likeso what's good?
He's like, oh, man, he doesn'tlike that.
I said I didn't even say shitabout the conference, about the
voicemail, but you already knewthat.
You knew, yeah, and he was likeman, it's not even like that.
I was like you backing up y'all, like, like it's not even like
that.
I was like you backing up y'all, like, I was like nigga, like,
but I haven't said anything toyou.
So if you're automatically onthe defensive before anything
was said to you about saidincident, then that lets me know

(37:48):
.
You automatically knew what youwere on.
Yeah, that was a hell of asight to see.
I've never seen somebodybackpedal.

Speaker 3 (37:55):
It ain't like that dog.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
I might have to fight this nigga if he finds out all
the shit I was talking about him.

Speaker 2 (38:04):
Are you his conscience, I'm his.

Speaker 3 (38:10):
I just want you to get to the age about 60 where
you really don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (38:14):
Nah, I'm starting to get there.
It's feeling good.
It feels real good feels realgood.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Yeah, I said it whatever something that happened
.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
I was like, why am I sitting here, say, hey look, I
gotta, I gotta go, I gotta beout of here.

Speaker 2 (38:26):
Y'all think it's wasting my time has anyone ever
explained their reasons in a waythat made sense or changed your
mind about the hate?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
no, because I normally don't have a chance to
hate, a chance to explain.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
I just distanced myself I let me see, I'll see
the package.
When they explained to me whythey all felt a way about me and
then when I explained, whenthey actually got to know me and
explain, like explain wherethey were coming from, I
couldn't comprehend it because Ifeel still feel like it was

(39:03):
just done based on just assuming, without actually getting to
know the situation, so they justassumed I was a bad driver.
Then, when we actually talked,they go nigga, you actually, you
actually good driver and you'reactually this.
And it's like I didn't evenknow.
I was like I can't evenunderstand it, but I'm cool with
you now.
So it is what it is, but Ididn't understand still where it
came from.

(39:23):
It was just more like we coolnow.
So now that we know each otherface to face, yeah, it's still.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
it's still a fuck y'all the fuck y'all.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
I think I remember one talk your shit.
I was uh comedy and I had a bad, really bad set one night and
then, like we were doing comedyat our little home club I
shouldn't have said it like that, it wasn't a little home club,
it was fun, it was our shit.
But uh, one nigga was like.
He was like I don't, I, Ididn't understand all the hype
about you.
I remember when I first saw youI was like what are all these

(40:01):
niggas like him?
And I was like, oh, he caughtme on a bad night, but thanks
for telling me you was hatingoff top.
I was like I was glad to knowthat I had a little buzz.
I didn't know.
Oblivious dog Walk around onthat, fuck him.
That's a lot of hate, that's alot of hate.
We became really good friends.
What's his name?

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Pretty cool Tracy.
Go figure, go figure, he's agood guy.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
They're going back around.
So we, that little club huh, wethat little place, we heard
what you said.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
nigga, I'm going back to hating your ass, nigga.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
It would be a nigga named Tracy.
Um, have you ever confrontedsomeone that had said hate, and
what was the outcome?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
yes motherfucking hell yeah hell yeah, I
confronted that nigga.
Fuck him, fuck this nigga.
You kept telling him, making uplies and telling people shit at
me at the theme park and I waslike, nigga, hey, if you got a
problem with me, you should justaddress me instead of going
around.
No, no, I wasn't.

(41:06):
No, that's not what I wassaying.
I was like come on, dog, you 50.
You're older than me.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
I shouldn't even have to do this.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
You to start these niggas dion prime time.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Nigga the way you backpedal like like like shit,
like like fuck just say oh, wegot another dion on our hands.
What the fuck?
What was that?
You backpedaling motherfucker,I know what you said.
I know what you said like yeah,uh anytime I've ever confronted

(41:38):
.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Yeah, but I'll say that that's my approach.
And I, I know what you said.
Yeah, anytime I've everconfronted, yeah, I'll say that
that's my approach.
I don't think that you gotprobably addressed me.
Address me, if you man enough.
Address me personally, becauseI feel like, if you, if you talk
, if you talking about me toeverybody else, you're just a
bitch.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Hey, man don't tell me no bitch, because I'll be
talking about this nigga.
I mean shit.
You and Des talked about thaton here.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
What that?
You confronted her?
Yeah, I told her Just say it,nigga, you got an issue with me?
Tell me, yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
It's easier.
And then she was like damnnigga, you just can't see.
Yeah, go back reference it.
It happened Me anytime I'veever addressed it again.
I say they do the Deion Sandersbackpedal.
It's never.
Yeah, I said it.
It's usually no man.
That's not what I meant, or itwasn't even like that dog.

Speaker 1 (42:24):
Oh yeah, I think if I'm confronted with this shit,
I'm going to have to be like allright.
Well, why are you like this,nigga?
Why?

Speaker 2 (42:31):
are you like this?
So I already know you guys aregoing to answer this, but I'll
fucking ask it anyway.
What would you tell someoneelse who finds out that they're
being hated without knowing?

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Get you another one being hated on without knowing
Embrace that shit.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
Go get a Coke and some glasses nigga.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
Or some meta glasses.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Or some meta glasses and record them and then show
them, be like hey, this is whatyou look like.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
This is what you look like All sour, all the time.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Little Dion-ass nigga .

Speaker 1 (43:03):
I'm mad because I got to see your hating-ass face
Shit.
I block it out.
That's the easiest way.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
I say embrace it.

Speaker 1 (43:15):
Or that.
Either way, I don't thinkeither one's wrong embrace.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
That shouldn't be like, nigga.
I must be dope for you hatingon me this much yeah, I don't
got time to think about theseniggas.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Smile, bitch, smile my best life that.

Speaker 2 (43:33):
That's that's been in my head for so long did you
answer yeah what'd you say?

Speaker 1 (43:41):
get another one.
Yeah, get another one getanother.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Oh, you did say that that was the first thing.
What did you learn aboutyourself through all the
experiences that you've had?

Speaker 3 (43:52):
that it don't matter.
It don't.
It don't matter what you do,somebody gonna dislike it,
that's true.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
No, matter it, don't, it don't matter what you do,
somebody gonna dislike it.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
That's true.
No matter what the intentionbehind your action is, you gonna
have somebody gonna go anddislike, and it's not
necessarily that they dislikewhat you do.
They might just dislike you andthey'll hate on it, even if
it's positive, just becauseyou're the one doing it.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
I know that to be true.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
Yeah, you're going to have a long time if you're
hating on me, because I'm notstopping.

Speaker 3 (44:20):
Can't stop.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
Get used to it, and at this moment, it's when the
young guns come in.

Speaker 3 (44:27):
Can't stop won't stop .

Speaker 1 (44:29):
That's all we can't.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
Can't stop, won't yeah we can't do it for
copyright infringement.
I mean, it's not like theymaking money on the song, but
copyright infringement reasonswill permit us from not playing
this.

Speaker 3 (44:43):
Was that hate.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
No, I'm just saying they're not making money on this
song.
As far as I know, according toNicki Minaj out this
motherfucker, ain't nobodymaking money with Rockafella or
Rock Nation.

Speaker 3 (44:52):
Except certain niggas .
Shakira rock nation, exceptcertain niggas, so shakira
shakira.
I think she's there so she'sdefinitely anyway, um, shake
that shit all right, we're justgoing to do it.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, we're gonna.
We're gonna freestyle the restof this because I I feel like
we're in that moment.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
Oh, I don't know what that means we're in that moment
either.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
We're in that moment is it that moment nikki was
talking about for life?

Speaker 2 (45:23):
no, we're in the moment of knowing that we're now
veterans in this shit and Ikind of just want to shoot the
shit with you guys now and uhtalk about, uh, what, what we
think about things like theClips album and what was your
initial thoughts?

Speaker 1 (45:43):
I almost cried at that first song.
That was pretty good.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
That first song made me want to cry it was amazing.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
That's an invoking emotion.
It's very clean.
It's a very clean album.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Did you think that two guys that rap so much about
drugs could get into that bag?
Yeah, absolutely Nigga.
They from album.
Did you think that two guysthat rap so much about drugs
could get into that bag?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
Yeah, absolutely Nigga.
They from Virginia Get out ofhere.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (46:03):
Throwing through you and this.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Sean, Get out of here .
Dog Ain't shit to do but cook.
That's not true.
There's a lot of other things.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Yeah, I got a damn line about chivalry.
That's why, man yeah that shit.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
He just reminiscing, damn yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:27):
But it sounded like it sounded expensive the whole
production.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
To have Stevie Wonder play the keys on that.
Yeah, I just showed a lot ofrespect that they got within the
music industry itself, thepeople that were on there, lenny
kravitz, all that so thatthat's my favorite part and they
kept it.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
They kept it with us yeah, uh, chains and whips your
thoughts of the whole song I, Iliked it, I loved, loved it, I
loved it.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I couldn't like say nothing.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
Kendrick triggered me .

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Which part?
The therapy part.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Yeah, I thought you were just going to relate.
You're positive now Becausesometimes I'm talking about it,
but I really don't give a fuckabout this.
I don't know why I was caring.
I really don't give a fuckabout this, like it's.
I don't know why I was caring,I really don't care so should
you relate instead of trigger?
Trigger?
No, but it made me think.
It made me replay therapysessions in my head.

(47:23):
So when that happened I waslike, yeah, man, you know what
nigga, I don't need to redo this.
So I fell out that that goddamnthat goddamn show with your baby
shower, your dinner reveal,until you give me mine.
That shit made me laugh.
I laughed for like three daysoff that shit.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I thought it was genius to roll out well, they
did the little they releasedchains and whips before they
released the full album theytalked to some YNs.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
They knew how to get it out there and they had
content ready when it was done,full album.
Yeah, they did some.
They talked to some YNs.
They knew how to get it outthere, and they had content
ready when it was done.
Like a whole bunch of visuals.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
I did not understand that the music video Supposed to
be more like an artsy.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
Yeah, they just.
It's old nigga shit.
Now we rich.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
They in their Jay-Z era.
They're in their Hove era.
Oh, I know they're in their Hovera.
Oh, I hated that.

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Oh, I hated that Jay-Z be.
Hov that Magna Carta, holyGrail, shit you know what's
funny, I was just listening tothat album and I was like I like
certain songs on here, but thenI was like, damn, there's a lot
of skips.

Speaker 2 (48:31):
There's a lot of skips.
I saw the video.
I was like, why?
Because he just won a Picasso.
Yeah, that's different money.
Yeah, different level of money,that's inspiration.
Let me just go over here andmake this Holy Grail song with
Justin Timberlake and I'm goingto just do some wild shit with
this video and then have it chopand screw and then come back
around and slow down.
I said you just ruined the songfor me.

(48:53):
That was my favorite song onthere.

Speaker 1 (48:56):
That down.
I said did you just ruin thesong?
For that was my favorite songon there that video ruined it,
of which one magnet?
The holy grail, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, my bad.
I mean, you take your clothesoff.
Is that what he said, justintimberlake?

Speaker 2 (49:06):
yeah, yeah, yeah, off my back, but like the way it
chop and screwed and slowed downand then like but like I was
like, this isn't I.
I get the whole art appeal andshit, but sometimes it's just
the way it is.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
I mean, I understand that from an artiste standpoint.
But then I look at certainthings and I go man them.
Numbers must be numbering forthem to do some shit like this.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
Then you had the song with the POV.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Tyler yes.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Tyler went off.
Tyler, I said damn, tylerrapping.
Well Tyler can rap.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
He just chooses not to Sometimes.
Well, again, that bottom lineis probably some different shit,
where he gets to just be a wildartist.
He don't have to do that allthe time, which is probably
comforting.

Speaker 2 (49:57):
Well, malice is lying these chains on these niggas is
like oppression to me.

Speaker 1 (50:02):
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
That nigga came off, that album.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
I like he said that, but he went and got himself a
new chain.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
He said, nigga, I'm the only one in the game that he
could really be free.
He's the only one thatliterally said he left, was
actually free.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
They're both mason, both mason, both mason bethers.
Well, he's amazing.

Speaker 2 (50:26):
People are finally learning who he is, though now
here's the bigger question doesthis prove that older niggas can
still rap and at this point arerunning rap?

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Well, I think we're in a good era right now, where
it's finally we got old niggas,though we didn't have it like
that.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
I think it just proves that the old niggas rap
can still rap about subjectmatter and content that we want.

Speaker 2 (50:51):
Well, that's what.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
I don't think the younger generation is checking
for Eclipse out.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
We don't listen to them now.
But I think the bigger thingthat I took away from it all was
the fact that a lot of timeswhen they're older, you tend to
rap out of a pocket.
So like you can tell, like thisdata.
What was impressive to me aboutPusha and Malice is they didn't
sound dated like.
They don't sound like, forexample, if you listen to LL

(51:17):
Cool J rap.
He can rap, he can spit, butyou can tell that there's some
times where his ear is not ascrisp as it probably was when he
was rapping in his prime.

Speaker 1 (51:30):
I think he did too much acting.
You forgot.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
You really don't want to verse my iced tea.

Speaker 1 (51:35):
I didn't feel like they missed the beat no, we
shouldn't yeah, I see doing itand I don't think malice really
stopped, he just didn't but it'shard to keep that, like I'm
telling you, like that yeah,that's pushing them.
Niggas is probably he's likefreestyle, but I don't.
I feel like this is our firstreal time of having like older

(51:57):
artists that are like active andstuff like hip hop's, not that
old, like look at Wu-Tang,that's our Grateful Dead now,
like we never had that.
Like they're like the GratefulDead if you think about it.
Like if you go to a Wu-Tangconcert, it's a lot of old
niggas, you're like what the?
And young niggas, though, whereyou're like and you
motherfucker, and they are thecraziest fans Like woo forever.

(52:18):
I'm like I never really thoughtthat nigga was that good, but
they got 15 others to choosefrom.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
I could say that about majority for me.
I'm not a woo head.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
But I respect that shit because it's cool as fuck
that they figured that out.
I wish bone thugs would havelike.
They seem like they're startingto try to get it back.
But if they would have neverlike had all that turmoil, like
that and somehow locked it up.

Speaker 2 (52:43):
Busy Bone aka David Ruffin.

Speaker 1 (52:45):
Yeah, that nigga's nuts.
And he might be the one towatch our shit and pull up like
I heard you Open the door.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
He's my favorite bone , but that nigga, that's David
Ruffin nigga.
That nigga has some ego-drivenyeah.

Speaker 3 (53:06):
Well, when it comes to Wu-Tang, it's math and ODB
for me.
I don't really care for otherones.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
I don't mind Ghostface.
It took me a while to get intoGhostface.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
That nigga rap too slow.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
For me it's different .
And then I was like, oh, thisnigga's nuts Like Inspector Deck
, not my shit, rza, I don't know.
I've heard people recentlytalking about RZA Like yeah he's
ahead of his time and I waslike, well, we still waiting, we
still waiting waiting.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Okay, uh, but like the, the bigger point that I
took from seeing the album likethis and was refreshing at the
time was the fact that it showsthat, uh, in the, in the, the
era of whatever the fuck isgoing on with the social media
and TikTok and the things thatare driving the algorithm, that
this can kind of shine through.

Speaker 1 (53:59):
It's back to ringtone .
That's what it is.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
I don't really see any ringtones.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
No, I'm just saying that TikTok.

Speaker 3 (54:07):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
Little clips.
15 second clip will make a song, and now that's just on the
radio.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
You got big X to plug .
I like them, but every singlesong is oh, is this a different
one?
Oh, they all sound the same tome.

Speaker 3 (54:22):
I fuck with Big X, okay, yeah it gets you motivated
.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
but let's see what album number two looks like.
Ay, it might come out withMotherfucker I'm the greatest.
Sorry I'm hating.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
greatest sorry I'm hating that nigga Big X rap the
best when he on a country songyeah he Texas, he from Texas,
what he got in that country,shit.
Texas ones his name is Big X,but you need to slow the fuck
down if you were a rapper in the1990s.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
What do you think your rap name would be and why?

Speaker 3 (55:10):
The 90s.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
I don't know.
You gotta come up with one name.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
Give us something in the 90s I was heavy into DMX,
man X and Pac, a little Snoop.
I don't damn rap name.
I never thought I could rap soI never tried.
I probably just you know be beMo I guess.
But not the nigga that was inFulton.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Better than that, nigga, would you be B-Mo or Mo
Mo, just Mo, just Mo.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Just Mo, just Mo or Mo Mo.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
And what would the album title be?
Just Mo, mo and me, mo and me.
Oh, I see.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
I fuck album title.
Be just mo, my one, me more me.
Oh, I see I fuck with that healready had it ready.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I'll fuck with that.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
He had it ready I had a rap name I don't remember
what the fuck it was.
Do a little masterpiece.
We wrote a whole song and shit.
Nah, this is like fucking fifthgrade I think we thought he's
about to be crisscross had alittle group sang that shit in
front of class.
I was like yeah, in class didyou wear your pants backwards?
Nah, we wasn't going that far,but we was up there rapping in
front of class like did you have?

Speaker 2 (56:19):
the dookie right, I had the dookie man no beat.

Speaker 1 (56:22):
I was like damn, we went off off the dome.
We're like no beat.
Or I wasn't off the dome, butyou know, acapella no idea what
my rap name was.
But now that I think about itas an older man, uh, back in the
90s I have to be likepositivity because I don't want
to get shot because them niggasstuck what would the, what would

(56:44):
the album be called?

Speaker 2 (56:45):
please don't shoot me oh, my god, uh, so, oh, since
we're here, favorite shoes ofthe 90s.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
Favorite shoes of the 90s man, all the cool ones we
couldn't wear because of gangs.

Speaker 3 (57:05):
I ain't gonna lie, nigga, my favorite shoes, I
don't care them goddamn LA Gearsthat light up with the pump, I
still wear them, motherfuckers.
That final pair today, I wearthem.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Oh, I'll do that too I like the la gears thing.
All right, fuck what you'retalking about.
Them shits light up.
You feel like you feel like amotherfucking boss.
Those light up, bro.

Speaker 1 (57:25):
I get it you know my favorite shoes.
My mom's gonna hate me for thisshit.
She gonna hate me what?
Was that because it was thecheap ones and I loved those
shoes for some reason.
Attack forces.
I don't know if y'all niggasremember attack forces.
That's payless shit.
They had like some fake penniesor some shit, but I had them
and I rocked them all in them.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
I mean, let me think about that.
I talked about this a long timeago.
That girl that uh wore the fakejordan to middle school and and
she got roasted and neverwanted motherfuckers again.
They roasted her and they werelike I saw him at payless nigga
they look.
I was like I'm glad I didn'tget him.
That's awesome.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
I also I also like the um.
You know when, uh, themarberries are the warm, warmer
I like them.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I had to start.
I had a bunch of strawberries.
I should.
I think I gave them thegoodwill, but I had a bunch of
strawberries I I like them.

Speaker 3 (58:16):
I hate that shit.
They look nice.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
I might buy some moon boots, though, because I
haven't.
I never got those.
The moon shoes Kobe's?
No, no, the moon shoes.
The toys there's some toys.
They were like trampolines oneach foot.
It's a 90s toy.
Oh OK, I know what you'retalking about.
Yeah, I never was able to getthose as a child.
Cardio on your feet.

Speaker 3 (58:39):
I should buy some Heelys.

Speaker 1 (58:41):
You shouldn't the wheels, you shouldn't, you
shouldn't Just be nostalgic.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
If I got some Heelys, you'd know, because I wouldn't
be here.
Yeah, I'm saying, like how youexplain that I'll be intensive
care, you guys will be visitingme.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
That's what I mean.
You go.
Hey, what happened to you?

Speaker 2 (58:57):
like I had some shoes with some wheels on the whole
body cast, so they go like so Ihad some helis like it didn't,
it, didn't, it didn't uh turnout well uh the crazy part is
that I think it was like a yearago we went to the skating rink.

Speaker 3 (59:13):
I grew up rollerblading and skating.
I could not skate.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Really, you got to figure it out.
I did go down.
Last time I skated I startedgetting comfy.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
I used to do this all the time.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
I tried rollerblading once.
It didn't go well.

Speaker 3 (59:31):
I used to rollerblade a lot.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
My dad got me some rollerblades and I lived around
the corner from his barbershopso I was going to go.
I made the bright idea to tryto roller blade to the
barbershop.
I didn't make it.
And then what's so cool is carswould drive by and they would
go, oh, and not one person saiddo you need help?
I was fucked up, like you.
Just I wasn't making like everyfew feet, I was falling, and

(59:57):
not one person said do you needhelp?
They would just look and pointand be like damn.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
How about?

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
rhythm and timing, like I must be.
My 15% must have came out theScandinavian.
I had no rhythm, didn't I skate?
Apparently not this nigga.
My ancestors did not do that umI was fucked up I said fuck

(01:00:24):
them rollerblades

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
yeah, yeah, I'm gonna understand that, especially if
you explain that every step is.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I shouldn't have a tailbone damn that bad yeah.
I should be missing a lot ofskin like it wasn't like a.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yeah, I'm sorry, that's what me laugh at.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
I just know it was a.
It was a fucked up time, butalright.
Favorite place in the 90s thatyou visited or frequent.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
Chuck E Cheese, chuck E Cheese.
We're Chuck E Cheese, chuck ECheese.
We're at Chuck E Cheese all thetime RK was on point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
Did you go on the ball pit?

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
No, chuck E Cheese was Dave Buster's before Dave
Buster's was Dave Buster's, Iremember in the 90s.

Speaker 2 (01:01:10):
Why are you guys saying it so quickly?

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
What.

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
That hurt man.
I was in that ball pit and Iprobably have a lot of uh, you
should have been.
Yeah, I shouldn't have been.
But I guarantee you my fuckingresistance to a lot of shit.
The bacteria in thatmotherfucker, all them fucking
used diapers that would be inthere and shit chuck it, yeah,

(01:01:33):
chuck your cheese.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
And then you know, back in the 90s we had actual
arcades there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
So you know what place I wanted to go to and I
never did.
I used to drive by thatmotherfucker all the time.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Scandia the one in Ontario yeah, I used to drive by
all the time the funny thing is, I went to Scandia, I took my
wife in 2016, in 2016, and theyclosed down the next year I
never went, as was one of myregrets, that and that.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Uh, you didn't miss it.
Is it dc fun zone or whatever?
Do you remember that shit thatused to?

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
the discovery discovery zone.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
Yeah, I never went there they had them all over,
but I never got to go to one andthey closed them down for even.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
They're back now, but not named DZ.
They're just those playhouses.
I'm pretty sure I never went toone, but I'm like I'm pretty
sure it's an indoor playground.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Yeah, I was.
What are you?
What are your?
One place in Fucking no man.
Castle Park for me.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I was going to say, say maybe that's one, because I
was like I ain't been to CastlePark probably since the fucking
night Castle Park.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
We used to frequent Castle Park a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
I probably wouldn't go now, unless it's miniature
golf.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
Miniature golf used to do a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
I don't know if I want to ride the ride.
That's disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
I don't think I should ride the ride, especially
the waterlogged ride.
I used to do that one a lotwhen I was a kid.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
I wouldn't do it.
Yeah, they fucked up.
I know what they did.
Homie might be in jail, I don'tknow.
It's possible.
Oh, wow For what the log rideshit at Castle Park.

Speaker 2 (01:03:10):
You don't remember that?

Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
No, what might die on that?

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
motherfucker.
I can see I would have launchedoff that motherfucker now.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
Well, they had the water up too high, I think.
Or is it too low, Too much?
Because if you got too much,then it makes a bigger break.
So then when it came down, ithit too hard and then so
somebody fucked up with thesensor I can see that.
Ain't that a bitch when youstart working at a place and
certain things.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
You probably see trucks and you'll be like that
nigga ain't gonna make it.
Alright, I guess I'm going downnostalgia lane, but with that
being said, this has beenepisode 208 of the Heavyweight
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