May 12, 2025 • 62 mins
What happens when four unfiltered friends take on your most controversial questions?
Episode 197 of The Heavyweight Podcast brings you a fearless, no-holds-barred roundtable with Des the Diva, Moelethal, Kevin Ellis, and McFly, diving into taboo topics that most shows wouldn’t dare touch.
From the vital role of Black fatherhood to the complexities of masculine and feminine energy in modern relationships, the crew delivers raw truth, sharp insight, and plenty of laughter. As Kevin puts it: "Being a man, being a father, being a husband—you're going to put those you love before you."
The conversation turns up the heat as they unpack the double standards around bisexuality, acknowledging their own growth and biases. Des gets real about evolving beyond past ignorance, opening the door for a powerful conversation about acceptance, vulnerability, and the judgment bisexual men face in dating.
This isn’t just barbershop talk—this is what happens when real people confront real issues with honesty and zero performative fluff.
💬 Relationships.
💬 Gender roles.
💬 Fatherhood.
💬 Sexuality.
Nothing is off-limits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The message behind saying the title of the
Heavyweight Podcast is to beable to say that we can weigh in
on some heavy shit.
What we're talking about isimportant from every aspect of
it.
It's a heavy weight.
It's not just about physicalweight, but the weight of things
that can weigh our minds.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You said, you said you a smoking wing, wings,
smoking wings.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh, I was gonna say game banging yeah, that's why I
stopped, because we can't talkabout smoky.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Oh, that's right I said damn smoky bitches too.
No, he not, and it was recent.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's the shitty part is it was recent.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
They said they never had to take no pussy from nobody
maybe in 2024.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
They said the house staff, yeah, the house staff.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
They said he was gonna give smokers a pussy every
time smoky ass was supposed toput now listen I usually don't,
don't, uh not them guatemalas.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
They said he was in there telling them you won't get
your freedom, you know what Imean.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
He got dementia.
He old that's gonna be his out.
I don't remember he might gotdementia, make him trip.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Make him trip and that can break a hip.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Oh smoke.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Oh, smoke breaking them.
He did put that at Gasm's thatlast album, that little album
yeah, Still talking aboutfucking.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, but with his wife.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Nah, he was talking about the staff.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
What's up everybody?
It's your girl, dez the Diva,back with episode 197 of the
Heavyweight Podcast.
I am back this week with theseamazing gentlemen.
Introduce yourselves.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's your boy, molito .
Speaker 1 (01:52):
She said amazing.
So y'all go ahead, shush, y'allgo ahead, I'm being modest.
Kevin Ellis.
Kevin Ellis, wendell Ellis Jr.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I'm a hell of a time the guy they call McFly.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Okay, hell of a time, I like that.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I like that, but that's on a shirt.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Okay, hell, yeah, the whole sentence.
Hell of a guy, the guy theycall McFly.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm about to write this On a software.
Hell of a time.
Follow At Something.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
The whole hootenanny.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We're back with episode 197.
These questions were cultivatedby you guys, the fans.
These are the questions that Itook from the internet that you
guys all sent in, so we're gonnago with those today.
You ain't got the jar today.
I don't have the jar today,guys.
I'm sorry.
I will have the jar next timecause apparently people like the
jar.
I was actually told the jar waskinda cool.
(02:46):
People liked it because theydidn't know what order I was
gonna ask the questions again.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So people kind of like they don't know if you I'm
gonna, I'm gonna we don't havethe jar today, but she has a jar
app on her phone and it's gonnarandomly select the question
next time she should bring herbackpack and then pull them out.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Listen we can do a whole episode and I can just
display what's in the backpackso I can get people ready.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm all for it.
I'm all for it.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I might help spice up your life.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't want that spice.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm going to just go with this first question because
it was actually directedtowards me and I was also asked
this by Molito today, in so manywords, and I've been asked this
a million times.
But I was asked what myskincare regimen was.
I didn't say that shit at allhe did.
He was like girl, what kind ofmoisturizer did you use?
Today?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I was like, listen, molito, time out let's just
start with a question directedonly yeah, yeah because the next
question is directed only aty'all.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I don't know the damn answer to the next question.
I guess this is I like it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I like it so what's your?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
you're gonna answer the question.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Right now I'm using the good molecules collection.
It changes per season, sothat's the answer.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What's that?
Because we're not.
Never mind.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I could tell you the good molecules collection it's,
it's uh, that's the answer.
What's that cause?
We're not, nevermind.
I can tell you the GoodMolecules collection it's.
That's the name of the brandokay, is it black on probably
not, but I do use.
I use butter skin in the winterand that one is actually black
on because it's butter, skin,butter, skin, butter with an A
skin by.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah is it with a T butter?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
butter by dorian.
Yeah, it's what a it's two t'snot butter, it's like.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's like the same stutter yeah, butter okay
exactly, I'm just making sure Ilike that period.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
There was butter, love, and that was two d's right
but yes, I switch it updepending on the season so
that's what that is.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I will post.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You switch it up like you switched that backpack up
because my mind was in thegutter when you said molecules
and I was like that sounds likesemen.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Oh, they say it makes you glow because if my man
won't, okay, so listen, I willpost my skincare regimen for the
ladies that want to know.
The next question, and I guessI could answer this, but I think
this person wanted to hearmainly from the three of you.
(05:11):
They want to know what do youthink the importance of having a
black father in the home?
Is Somebody?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Black father.
I feel like in the home period,a is important, like just in
general.
Uh, in the community of blackit's more, needs to be more
prevalent, just because we'vebeen taken out by so many
different other factors thanourselves.
So it's harder to have thatdynamic in that home when you
(05:45):
have enough Outside forcesfighting against you anyway.
So the importance is even morethan normal if you, if you want.
So yeah, I mean it's extremelyimportant.
I don't know what else to say.
Like the dad in the home kindof is the balance that's missing
(06:06):
in a lot of homes right now.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Just in general I agree um, having a father in the
home was important for both.
Uh, regardless whether you haveboys or girls, for um, if you
have daughters having a fatheraround it, um, it teaches them.
Well, if you have boys or girls, for um, you have daughters
having a father around, um, itteaches them while you have a
good father around.
I can say it teaches them whatto look for in a, in a partner,
(06:30):
and makes them feel protected.
Um, I mean, studies have shownthat, um, little girls who are
raised with their father in lifedo you seem to be more
confident.
Um, and they feel safer, safe,um, and they feel safe at home.
For little boys, having yourdad around teaches you how to
regulate and process youremotions, to understand that, as
(06:56):
a man, this life is unforgivingand they don't care what you're
going through.
I tell my daughters every day Isaid you wake up every day
where responsibilities, whetheryou you want them or not, and
you, you have to put thoseresponsibilities above, um, your
wants, because you have tounderstand, especially as a man,
that, uh, life is not going toalways be about you, and but you
(07:23):
have to understand that whenbeing a man, being a father,
being a husband, whatever thecase may be, oftentimes you're
going to put those you lovebefore you.
So that's something that littleboys need to be taught that, as
a man, your know your wordmatters, you have to live up to
(07:46):
your word and you have to takecare of your responsibilities,
because your actions are who youare.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I dig that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
For me growing up, it was just me and my dad.
So I saw how extremelybeneficial and important it was
for me to grow up with my fatherand then for the bigger picture
of it was that I saw a lot ofmy childhood friends grow up
without their fathers.
So I saw the significance in mychildhood with my dad around and
(08:23):
the childhood of my friendsaround, with my dad around and
the childhood of my friendsaround and sometimes it was you
would get a little bit ofresentment or bitterness from
other people because of it.
So when I look at it and thesight of it, it's extremely
important.
It's even more specifically forBlack men and Black children
growing up is that we need tohave a better representation of
(08:45):
us being in the home because,like Kevin pointed out, there is
a big Factor at play wherewe're not necessarily have the
advantage of just being able tobe home or be in the home or be
(09:09):
in the home.
So, uh, yeah, it's extremelyimportant, uh, for us as a, as a
black people, to have thatimage of us being black fathers
at home and, um, even as justfathers in general, it is
extremely important for us to bepresent and, um, that's the.
I think everything else hasalready been said.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I just yeah yeah, I just want to.
I think the father in the hometoo.
It's going to sound odd, but Ithink it makes it a little less
aggressive of a way to raising,like, say, you have a boys, like
it's, it's better to have theman in that, because with women,
(09:49):
at some point those boys aregoing to become men, so she's
going to have to be moreaggressive in order to get him
to have that fear or whatever.
Yeah, so it's like they'remissing out on the soft side of
what they're supposed to have.
They're supposed to have abalance.
You're supposed to have that.
Okay, I have that.
So it's like having just one inthe house kind of messes it up
(10:14):
in that regard.
But having the father, like yousaid, it's like your dad
doesn't have to be as aggressiveas a woman would have to be.
Yes, you get what I mean.
It's like I don't have to be asaggressive as a woman would
have to be.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You get what I mean.
Like it's like.
I don't have to like I know youalready know what's what like
with a mom.
It's.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But I felt like both both sides is needed.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
No, yeah, yeah, yeah I 100% agree.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know what I'm saying, cause you get the
nourishment Definitely.
And it's not that.
It's not that they don't bothlove you, they just both love
you differently.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, essentially, I think having a
black father in the home is goodfor the entire family unit
because that's exactly where mymind went the woman does get to
be in her feminine role, in hernurturing role as a mom, when
the dad is there.
So I think it's good for theentire family unit.
I know I didn't grow up with adad in the home and I felt like
(11:06):
until recently, when I startedto go on my healing journey,
that I had a hole in my heart,like I felt like there was a
piece of me missing withouthaving my dad in the home.
So I think, had he been there, Iprobably and I've said this on
past podcasts that I probablywouldn't have chosen the
partners that I chose pastpodcast that I probably wouldn't
(11:26):
have chosen the partners that Ichose.
I'm sure I wouldn't have chosenthe partners that I chose
because in hindsight, lookingback, I think I was either
choosing partners that needed meand wouldn't leave, or I was
choosing partners that mimickedhim in some way.
So I think the quality of thedad also plays a part, because
in that state that he's in as afather and Laura, I know I talk
(11:47):
about him and I probably soundlike a bad daughter, and I don't
mean no harm, but him in thatversion of him in the home with
me would not have sufficed foras the same as a good father in
the home, because he was in thehome with two of my siblings and
I do see how they um, Ialthough I think they're both
(12:09):
great humans, both of mysiblings are amazing, but they,
they had to grow to be that wayon their own, so I, I, yeah,
it's not only just the fatherper se, it's also the quality of
the dad.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think I approach it as like, as a father.
No matter whether I'm good orbad, I'm an example.
I'm either going to be theexample of what she's going to
look for or the example of whatshe's going to run from.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So I try to be the example.
Show her what to look for andnot what to run from.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
I agree, you guys.
Yeah, you know anything else,andy?
No, okay, so the next question.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
His name is, for a good time, mcfly.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
McFly.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
She's telling my government to be sweet.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Sorry, I don't know why I'm calling you that today,
because even in conversation,when you're not there, I still
don't call you that my bad won'thappen again.
Um, this next question.
The next question is how do menwant women to be in their
(13:22):
feminine air, and a lot ofniggas are in their feminine air
I can't answer this question Idon't know how to answer that I
mean what?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
how do you?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
it's not the three of y'all, but there's lots of men
that are very much in theirfeminine air.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
They very much what are they doing to make them?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
yeah, they want you, they damn.
They want you to send themflowers, shit.
They want you to treat themdelicately and I think, uh, yeah
, that you don't think theseniggas is feminine out here I
don't know all these niggas.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, I don't know these niggas.
Is there?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
is there a bruna marge singing this to them?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I have my uh my whole little in touch with my
femininity and you know what?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
yes, in your, in your femininity.
But I think that if we've, Ithink what she's asking, because
I know her I think what she'sasking is like, men have shied
away and some men not all, letme not put y'all all in the same
box but some men have shiedaway from being that masculine
man.
For women to be able to thrivein their feminine energy,
(14:32):
because they are in theirfeminine energy, you damn near
need to open the door for theseniggas.
They damn near want you to sendthem flowers outside of a
joking way.
A lot of times and this is just, maybe it's just me projecting
what I go through, but again, Iknow this woman who asked the
question but a lot of times,like when women are left to
(14:54):
figure out the things thatnormally men would, men would
come in and figure out I thinkthat is the um stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think that's their direct response of these trigger
words that were created online,like toxic masculinity.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Feminism.
Yeah, it's tough, it's like.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
No, no, no.
These niggas is out here soft.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I mean, I'll kill a spider for you Then again no,
not kill a spider nigga.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But what I'm saying is is that there was a time and
time, and still a little bittoday, where masculine,
masculine was considered to betoxic, when, when a man would
not necessarily I don't want tosay assert himself, would be, be
direct in his words and hisactions and stand his ground, it
(15:41):
was not taken.
It wasn't.
It wasn't.
It wasn't.
It wasn't taken correctly, likelike people women were, would
be offended if he, if he came ontoo strong or if he, if he felt
too certain way or if he madehard lines and stuff like that,
right you, it would.
There was pushback there.
So I feel like a lot of menjust kind of ease back, because
(16:04):
I do feel like there was.
I'm not saying this, I'm notsaying this like what we did.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm saying I do feel like there's men out there they
kind of like, okay, well, theyadapted to what the times were,
from what they were hearing on,because no people hear shit
online and they roll with it andthey they dictate their
personality, how they move basedoff that that's the error I
think, is I actually it could bethat too, but I feel like part
of it and it's fucked up because, like, there's a lot of still
(16:31):
learning each other, becauseeverything's not that long ago,
even like just women's rights,all that stuff, yeah, so then
you, like you said, you had menthat were being masculine and
all this stuff and then but butI think a lot of men fucked it
up and where did you think theyfucked it up back?
that's the same place as beingoverly, overly, uh, aggressive,
(16:54):
because you get all of thisstuff out of.
That's where toxic masculinitycomes from.
Like you get this me too.
Shit isn't all fake, so allthat shit just went unchecked.
You know what I'm saying yeah,so then it's like now that it's
in check, it's like theovercorrection happened, so it's
like an overcorrection ah soit's.
I still think we're in a weirdspace where it's like trying to
(17:15):
figure that out that's a goodass, it's like I I think part of
the problem is, how do they saynuanced?
yeah, I think I think part ofthe problem men were trying.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
They say nuanced, yeah, like it's, I think.
I think part of the problem menwere trying to be masculine in
spaces.
They didn't need to be, becausea lot of times they they, a lot
of men think they're masculine.
They're not.
They think because they put,they talk loud, they puff their
chest out, that makes themmaster.
That's not because a lot oftimes, um, you can tell who the
real you.
You know y'all want to go thiswhole alphabetic.
Then you can tell who the realAlpha is, because Alpha ain't
(17:45):
saying much.
Alpha don't?
Brother, it don't matter whatthe it could be.
It could be in a marriage, in afriendship, in a, in a family
setting.
Alpha don't have to move a lotto get you to move the way you
need to move right.
But at the same time, like my,actually it's funny because my
wife actually said this to meyesterday.
She came across the video andit's like yeah, uh, then the one
(18:10):
was pretty much saying like,yeah, women want, like she's
basically saying, yeah, I wantmy husband to leave, but he, he
doesn't have to be so direct,right, and my response to that
was like, see, and that's theproblem, like, because we can
say something, a lot of timeswhen I say something, I'm not
gonna speak for me, I'm talkingto.
A lot of times, when I saysomething, I'm not going to
speak for me, I'm talking to me.
A lot of times when I saysomething, I say it directly.
Mcfly, I don't sugarcoat you, Isay it directly.
(18:31):
And when I'm saying it, I'm notsaying it to hurt your feelings.
I'm just telling this is what,this is what I need from you,
right, and a lot of times and mywife needs to understand that
I'm not I don't always take howyou're going to receive it or
how your feelings will beaffected by what I say or by
what I say or how I say what Isay, so that to me, that's where
(19:02):
the impasse is Right.
So it's not that I don't thinkthat a lot of women are against
being led.
I think it's their.
Their issue is how theleadership is displayed Right.
So they don't want to bedirected to do things they want
they.
They, like I said.
I said so what you're tellingme is that you want me to phrase
things as a, as a suggestion,so that you feel like you're
making the decision, even thoughI'm telling you what to do.
And I think that's where theissue was, because I think a lot
(19:23):
of men think that masculinityis like no, I'm the man, you do
what I say.
Yes that's not masculinity,that's just you being a
dictatorship.
Because just because you're theman and you make the decision
doesn't mean always mean youmake the right decisions Right,
because we're not going to talkabout the leadership.
The leadership masculinity istwo different things.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Because you can be masculine and be a terrible
leader.
Yes, you can you know I'msaying so, but I I do think that
kevin said like I do think thatit is over correction and I do
think that it got.
We got to a point where somemen just just fell back and so
I'm just not going to deal withit.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
That's the problem.
Is the.
Is the fight for that is gone,because it's like we shouldn't
have a whole group of women thatwould rather be locked in with
a bear than men, but not thegorilla, though.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, well that's different.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
That's for men I also think it has a lot to do with
talking to your partner andlearning who how they like to be
led like.
I come off aggressive becauseI've always had a goddamn cry
baby, I've always had to beaggressive, but for a masculine
man and for a man who can beassertive when they speak, I
(20:33):
melt or I or I chill let me saythis when you, when you text me
yesterday, it was like I waslike, sorry for being rude.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I was like, nick, I didn't even take it that way,
whatever wait, but you and youdidn't but you whatever, I just
like how you melt and chill I do.
I'm about to melt in place niggabut I think that goes back to,
like I'm gonna say, for me, I'mso, I'm so grounded in who I am
(21:02):
that it that it takes a lot tomove me off of who I am.
Right, you really have todisrupt my spirit for me to
really get to a point to where Ican't control my emotions.
And I know, for me personally,there's only a few people that
can do that.
And the people that can do thatI know for a fact nine times
out of ten will not do that.
(21:22):
And I think that people havebecome so fickle and they let
social media, they let thosethat they need to be close to
them sway them so easily thatthey take these talking points
and they take these videos andthey take in the heart and then
they try to adapt that to theirown personal behavior instead of
just being who you are yeah,there's not a lot of organicness
(21:45):
going on for sure, mcfly.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I said I couldn't answer the question you didn't
say you couldn't answer that.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I thought by now you would have had an answer.
Shit nigga.
I still got to fly back in andsee, um, we were asked to
discuss the stigma that comesalong with being a single woman
who chooses to be single andchooses not to date.
Oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
What the stigma like, how she's viewed or perceived.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I think so because recently, recently um tracy
ellis ross spoke about this,about uh, no, tracy was wild.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
She what she's wild and she's trying to get young
yeah yeah, she just trying toget some young dick what you
mean by that.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's how she man of her age yeah, she don't want.
She want young dick, that's itthe man of her age weren't into
what she was into.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, she just want young dick, just stick a it.
The man of her age weren't intowhat she was into.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, she just want young dick she want to stick a
finger in a booty hole somewhere.
What the?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
fuck yeah, just say you want to rob the cradle, Rob,
rob, rob whatever, what's wrongwith her wanting someone
wanting?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Nothing's wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
If it's consensual, but just say it, it's extra shit
.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, it's extra shit .
Speaker 4 (22:59):
She's saying yeah, yeah, but how did y'all come to
that conclusion?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
come on, because it's the same either way come on now
you don't think niggas feel thesame way older niggas.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Did you see where she was speaking about?
You know not having childrenand not having a family at her
age.
Did we talk about the sameTracy?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
yeah, yeah, tracy, with all that ass a lot of men.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
she do got a lot of ass she dragging a wagon.
Yeah Well, they say if they seemen without kids at a certain
age, they think something'swrong with that motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But they think the same thing about women.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, he's saying it's a mutual stigma.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
But Tracy was talking about getting young dick yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I mean, at this fucking point, go and get it,
Tracy.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
A lot of what Tracy was saying.
My only response to that washow are you selecting these
partners?
Were you really venting peopleor were you just going based
solely off of physicalattraction, because it seemed
like?
Because that's not, I say thatyou know Tracy grew up very
privileged.
We know who her mom is.
We know who her daddy is.
(24:13):
She grew up very rich.
She went and she was fame andfortune was not hard for her to
come by.
So her circles was not the sameas what our circles would be or
what the average black woman ininner city life would be.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
It's not, it's not, it's not the same black woman in
inner city life would be right.
It's not, it's not the it's notthe same.
So my thing was like what, whatenvironment would you put in
you in putting yourself in toactually select a potential
partner that you couldn't find?
Nobody, because if you're onlygoing off of people in the
entertainment industryunderstandable, because you're
not people I don't think people,I don't think a lot of people
in the entertainment industryare there looking for
(24:52):
connections with substance, likethat dumb ass shit.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Paul Pierce said if I can make a guess, it would be
she was with people in like morepowerful positions than her
older.
Older men in those positionsaren't going to be willing to do
different things.
They're not going to be willingto play a certain role as a man
.
She's going to have to play herposition in that position,
(25:16):
right.
So I can understand where shewas coming from in that, but
it's like that's like you said,you chose to go into that pool.
You know this is how these menare.
That ain't going to change.
So yeah, you gotta take someonus in that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
But I, I do also.
I do also feel like it's it'swhen certain women make a
certain amount of money, it'shard for them to play a
subservient role.
Yeah, because they feel like Idon't need you, I can get it by
myself.
That's what I think happened.
So, and I, and I think that'skind of what she struggled from,
because she don't need nobody,kind of what she struggled from
(25:50):
because she don't need nobody.
She's always, and even evenwhat was left to her, that's
probably more than what mostpeople who pursue her would make
.
So she's not so from her.
From my perspective, herrelationships had to be built
off substance, because it's notlike she doesn't need anybody to
provide for her.
So it has it had to be mattersof the heart okay.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Well, in reference to the to, to the non-tracy ellis
woman in her um in her question,I don't know.
I think the stigma against umsingle women is it is unhealthy.
I think it's okay for you to bea single woman and and choose
not to have a study partner.
You shouldn't be labeled asanything other than just a damn
(26:31):
woman who made a conscientiouschoice.
Relationships are hard as helland stressful and sometimes you
just do not have it in you to bein another one and I don't
think that should be a problemat all, because that shit is
stressful.
I I digress.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I'm about to go in a rampage but everybody, I think
it's all fucked up.
I think everybody trying to beyoung.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Don't want to grow up .
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, yeah, but Not just saying.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I'm just saying in general, my knees remind me of
everyone, well, even Iexperienced it with not having
children and people who don'tknow why I don't have children.
You 40?
Oh you getting up there, yourclock ticking.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, that ain't their business.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
It's like well, you should tell the fucking people,
because maybe they do not give adamn if it's their business or
not.
But that's just it, bottom line.
People need to learn how tomind their own goddamn business
and let people do what they'regoing to do.
If you want to be single, youshould be able to be single and
not have to answer any damnquestions towards it or not have
to deal with anybody making anytype of judgment towards you,
because it ain't nobody's damnbusiness why you want to be
(27:28):
single.
Same thing with children.
There are a lot of people whojust don't even fucking want
kids.
I say it all the time If I knewthat I could have children
without a hitch, I probablywould want them motherfuckers in
my house, because I don't likeall the goddamn kids in my house
.
I can't handle more than one ortwo.
I don't want all them damn kidsliving with me.
But because I'm one of thosepeople that once you tell me I
(28:00):
can't do something, I think I'lldo it then now I'm like but in
my younger days I didn't wantchildren because I didn't want
them kids living with me.
Yeah, so I mean, some peoplejust genuinely don't desire that
and it should be nothing wrongwith that I mean this I don't
see anything wrong with a womanbeing single if that's her
choice.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I don't see why people have an issue with that.
But again, live your life, dowhat you want to do.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, definitely.
I just think everybody keeptrying to explain themselves to
everybody and you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
And you don't have to , and that's just the thing.
That's what we're.
Growing up, yeah, well, growingup, yeah, no.
Well, this the person who askedthe question.
She growed to shit.
No, no, I don't mean that she'sasking for podcast.
Yeah, for podcast purposes, she, she's actually go to starbucks
and be like hey, um.
The next question is why isbeing an opportunist the new
(28:45):
norm, versus grinding andgetting it out the mud?
That ain't new yeah, niggasbeen um scamming and jamming for
isn't that smarter, not harder?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
mean, yeah, niggas been scamming and jamming for.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But it's like uh, like matt was saying, with the
buying bots, you have to dealwith that it's like you do it
that way is it and.
Is it?
Is it really easier?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, and I tie a lot of things back to social media
as well, because I do think thatyou know it's a lot of like oh,
niggas should be paying foreverything.
You should need to have theseniggas do this and this and that
going on on social media.
And then you see the woman thatI'm not going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That, but no she got dues paying for everything, but
she's sucking and fucking forthese strips.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
She's doing something , yeah, she's not just getting
it, it's an illusion that peopleare running with.
It is all a fucking illusion.
Like literally.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I would say that you grind to the opportunity to
present yourself.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I like that.
I think people have adisconnect with money too.
What you mean because if youlisten to the way we talk about
like certain entertainers andlike you'll hear people throw
numbers out and you're likeain't no way that motherfucker's
making that much money.
But in our heads it's like, oh,this is where it's at.
(30:06):
So people are like how do I getto a hundred hundred million
dollars?
You're like everybody ain't gota hundred million dollars no,
like I promise you that like?
yeah it ain't that easy and Idon't know, maybe they think
it's that's how it works, butit's like you didn't see what
joe rogan had to do to get tothat contract and the same thing
was like what they talk aboutwith liquid and uh, and what
(30:29):
you're worth yeah, different soit's like you might be worth
that much, but it doesn't meanthat's what you can actually
have.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Kanye don't have a billion liquid.
Yeah, no, he ain't got nobillion right now he, definitely
he spent, he spent most of thatbill gates probably got a
billion liquid, but kanye spentmost of the money on that.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Fuck the bad studio um but can?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I saw.
It's funny.
I saw another video yesterdayand he was like I didn't
understand the differencebetween people who are rich and
people who weren't so rich untilI bought a house.
And then he panned the cameraaround he said look at these
goddamn trees.
And it's like it was like theshrubs, like those motherfuckers
, are a hundred dollars a pieceat lowes and the dude had like
(31:05):
20.
He said I'm counting.
He said he said as a homeowner,you drop by like I don't know
what that shit called they doinggood.
And I was like that's the realshit, I'm like damn, you got
that.
Okay, I know how much that costsokay, different, you got a box
cut on them.
I live.
Look, he said some of us livein the neighborhood.
(31:27):
Some of us live in theneighborhood.
It's different, yeah.
Some of us just happy to behere.
Some of us are thriving in theneighborhood, yeah, so it ain't
better to go quick though no, no, definitely, not definitely.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
But that's all.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Like you said, society I mean it really depends
, because if we get another damnpandemic, I might, I might, I
might have to scam with thescammers, because none of them
niggas in jail.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You are wrong about that.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
No, just the ones that did the excessive ones.
Okay, I'm not cosigning this.
They hit a million, hit twomillion, hit two million.
Them ones is in there.
Them ones is in there.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
We're going to see some niggas in 2027 getting
locked up.
Jesus Christ, it's going tocatch up to yours?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
No, yeah, I agree, I'm just kidding.
But the next question is do wethink that the recent spaceship
with Katy Perry, did they reallygo on a spaceship?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Listen, I don't care Listen.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You lost me to Katy Perry and Gale.
They went to space.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I think they might have went and the only reason
why I think they went is becauseof Gayle's reaction.
I told y'all them white womenwas going up there, they just
happy, they ringing that bell.
And then Gayle got up there andwas like I would have went, but
it cost too much.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They paid for that.
No, they did it for free.
It's advertisement.
He's selling.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
It's an advertisement I, I think there was, there
were weird things like, likewhen they opened when they
opened the door and hurried up,close that motherfucker back and
did open it again.
That was weird.
But gail kissing that dirt,gail, don't give me.
She kissed dirt for no damnreason that scares me, though,
that that's how cheap this shitis yeah, they popped that
motherfucker pop, pop, pop thatlittle dope and like it was a
damn civic um.
(33:09):
But yeah, I don't either way,it doesn't matter, it doesn't
affect me.
The egg price is still to costa goddamn much.
That's the fuck I'm worriedabout.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But I think they went yeah, the only thing is
innovation, thanks, yeah, theydefinitely.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Um, gail took a ass up there.
Oprah told her to go in herplace, I'm sure um they want to
know the thoughts on the carmeloanthony case.
Um, oh yeah, we discussed thaton the carmelo anthony case um
the what.
Yeah, we discussed that earlierthe carmelo anthony case the
young gentleman who um stabbedthe I'm waiting for the white
gentleman to death the two youngthere were two young teenagers
(33:45):
oh, the kids um the kidsI don't think justice is going
to be to be served in that.
I think they're going to givethe gentleman who did the
stabbing an astronomical amountof time, because it has involved
the worst case of white ragethat I've seen this month.
And no, it hasn't.
What was worse, the father whokilled the sheriff, the father
(34:10):
who killed the sheriff, he didget damn.
Might I say that I'm mightyproud of that man for walking
through with his head held high.
He stood the fuck on businessand I they were also not going
to give his son justice and hetook justice into his own hand.
And I am not mad at thatgentleman.
I saw the video, he did what hehe did what the fuck he had to
(34:32):
do.
The little boy was running away.
Um, there was no threat to thatofficer.
That young man was running away, so he did what he had to do.
Good job, dad.
Back to carmelo.
Um, they're not gonna.
It's an unfortunate situationbecause both families lost out.
The the gentleman who was wasstabbed.
(34:54):
Unfortunately, he was trying todo an adult's job.
If he felt like carmelo was ina space he wasn't supposed to be
in, go get somebody.
It wasn't your job to to topolice him or to tell him what
to do and give him the one withthe tent with the tent and,
given the environment that theywere in carmelo, was probably
(35:15):
scared.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
They live in texas and and wasn't he being bullied
and he's able to self-defense?
Yeah, I don't know enough.
I'm not gonna mention.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
That's why I'm not talking yeah, he was being
bullied and it was self-defenseI just feel, like they're going
to end up giving.
I mean, they're now.
They're now passing deaththreats and shit to the damn
judge that that allowed him toget a bill that was um that was
um, you know, affordable for hisfamily.
His family seemed to alreadyhave had money.
They lived in a really nicehome and drove really nice cars.
(35:43):
These people are going onlineand lying and saying that
they're taking the gofundmemoney and whatever.
I just feel like like I hatethat it was a black boy and a
white boy, because if it werejust two white children, the
conversation would be totallyfucking different.
Or two black children I hatethat it was a black boy and a
(36:04):
white boy Because now we'reprobably going to witness this
young man go to jail for theastronomical amount of time for
self-defense, and so that is mytake on that I don't know enough
.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, that's my, that's my take on me.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Y'all know I watch all the.
I read all the black shits Iget you, but we're we weren't
there.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And it's tough because it's like if that was my
kid and my kid was out of line,I still don't think my kid
should be dead, so it's toughyeah, no, yeah, and that's why I
said my heart goes out to bothfamilies, because they both are.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
They're both suffering right now there.
There is no party in thissituation that isn't in
astronomical pain.
So I, I, my heart goes out toboth families, for sure, but I,
I, definitely, I don't know.
You got a good lawyer pleasestand around you just definitely
hope that, um, it, it just itjust works out for everybody.
(37:01):
Um, I'm gonna ask this questiony'all, but I don't.
I've never heard this in mylife, so I'm gonna ask this
question.
I do not.
I don't have an answer.
I mean, it's a simple question,I just don't have the answer
for it because, because I ain'tnever heard it um they this
person asked why is there ataboo against black women who
(37:22):
date korean or asian men?
I never heard that some of themasian motherfuckers is finer
than a motherfucker.
I never heard nobody say blackwomen can't.
Now I do hear nowadays.
Occasionally I'll hear somebodysay something about black women
dating outside of their race.
But I think it's because it'sbeen made such a big deal.
(37:43):
Okay, black men get rich, theygo date white women, not.
Not that I feel like that's thecase, I don't.
But now we're dating outside ofour race and we hear things.
But I never heard nobody saydon't date no Asian because some
of them, especially them Asiancrips.
Why are they in?
What the fuck?
Yes, lord them Asian crips.
They be cripping, they bethrowing up chokie.
(38:03):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
So it could just be any Asian crip yes, the way you
said it Shoot.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yes, the way you said it shoot him up, bang bang.
What's homeboy, what's crit maxhomie?
I don't know.
Y'all know, y'all know.
I like him to shoot him up,bang bang.
My next nigga gonna have tohave two, at least two tattoos
on his face, bam I never heardthat.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I remember being what was it uh?
Speaker 4 (38:24):
yes, we grew up with theo right, yeah, and theo was
fine he was on that radio like,hey y'all, thank you for coming.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
92.3.
Oh, I have no comment on thisquestion.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
And then he popped out on Boisha.
He was short, tight-eyed, hewas fine as shit, though Wow,
yes, that's my answer.
I never heard nobody say thatit's an Asian nigga on my
motherfucking timeline right now, every black in america being
that nigga's goddamn in.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
But I know they do good baby did an asian write
this, or was it?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
it's a black lady who asked me this she want an asian
man.
Go get him.
Get you what?
Get you an asian man?
Because, baby, I have not neverheard nobody tell.
And we make beautiful childrenwhen we mix.
The right a marie ain't sheasian, she asian, and yes, she
is a marie.
And janae a A Marie and JheneAiko Make beautiful children
when we mix with Asian people,don't?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
say Jhene Aiko.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Ain't she fine?
Yeah, mix them races together,baby.
I'm trying to tell you rightnow yes again, I'm gonna need my
next nigga to have at least twotattoos on his face, preferably
right here.
Boom.
Next question Try to let y'allknow.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
That's the second question.
That was just for her.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
She want a nigga with no job.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Well, I mean she's already said she's fine with
paying half the shit.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
That's going to be more than half.
That's going to be all the shit.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
What is wrong with me being fine with going 50-50?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's going to be 100-0.
In that scenario, you'll bepaying everything.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I don't like y'all.
All you're going to do is dropoff a dick 90-10.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You're going to be.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Jody.
Oh God please, I hate Jody.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
You're going to come back with a number seven.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I bought dinner.
I hate Jody.
I don't like Jody at all.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Really, Jody was my favorite.
That nigga with tattoos isgoing to be Jody.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Go whore dude, I don't like Jody at all.
I don't like Jody.
I do like Lucy's, that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Cry for your mom.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Give me a strawberry shake.
Did you say cry?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
for your mom Mama.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Mama, that shit is's good, ain't it?
Lucy's good as shit did y'all,do you guys know, the theme of
the most recent met gala.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
No, some was it ultra black it is it?
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I don't know.
It wasn't ultra, but it wasdandyism, Dandyism yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Dandy.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Black shit.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Why?
Because we were asked.
I'm going to have to ask youthis.
In a way.
She asked me when we actuallyspoke because I had to call her
and get clarity.
Do we feel like it was okay forthe white people to dress up in
the dandyism outfits?
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I didn't care.
Personally, I haven't seen it,so I don't care.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I don't give a damn about that.
Why the fuck would I get?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
that Drop the ball.
Yeah, they didn't get theassignment.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
No, they did horribly , but you know what they could
just be like.
Well, I felt it wasinappropriate.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Okay, but you know what they could just be like.
Well, I felt it wasinappropriate, okay.
So the lady who asked me thequestion, she felt like it was
inappropriate for them to, to,to dress, um, in that way and I
felt like if they would havewent and they would have went
all out it as long as they Imean, shit, shit, I don't, I
don't care what they, what theywere to the gala, I just
realized what the fuck they waseven doing in them damn costumes
every year.
So I didn't.
I see the Met Gala every year,but I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I actually had to ask her, you watch it.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
No, I see the highlights and stuff.
I don't watch it.
I didn't know what it was untilshe told me what it was.
I was like what the fuck isthat Like?
What are they doing?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Did she have like a follow-up question to Andre
3000's piano backpack?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
What was that?
I have a question why did hehave that on?
Was there a symbolism?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Because he put out a flute album too.
He put out a piano album.
He put that one.
Oh, did he.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I heard it wasn't, it was trash.
Yeah, I heard that it was trash, it was.
It was from 10 years ago orlike whatever.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah, he he he's not a piano player, so he decided,
doing shit to be doing shit atthis point yeah, which is dope,
I mean, if you get.
If you have freedom, that'sfreedom.
Yeah, he had that part of lifebut sometimes we gotta go.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Hey man, that's too much freedom, nigga.
Why you wearing that piano?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
look here, man.
If anybody said that to Jaden,they played the house nigga.
Jaden with the house.
Nigga, hey, listen.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I might have been the only guy who went.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I laughed.
I laughed, I said this nigga iswild.
No, that's a house nigga.
I think that the woman whoasked me this question, I think
ultimately, I think she just betrying to find a way to be
supportive, but be um is shewhite?
(43:24):
but be um respectful in hersupport because she because she
yeah because, she asked me a lotof um like racially based
questions, and I think that itreally is her just trying to be
supportive.
She she is like avid watcher.
She doesn't damn near seeingeverything that we do, and I
think she just wants to know how, how to be supportive of us um
(43:47):
in a space where she's stillbeing respectful, if that makes
sense it.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It's all about intention.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yeah, it's definitely all about the intention.
Definitely, you know me,definitely.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Be true to your heart ?
Yeah, and let us deal with it.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah, I don't have an issue with the people who, with
the white people who did selectto go in the dandyism outfit.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
They didn't do the Ted Danson.
Is it Danson Dansa?
How you say his name?
Speaker 4 (44:17):
yeah, tony Danson the Tony now, that would have been
a problem yeah that would havebeen a total problem.
The next question is okay, wouldhave been a total problem, um.
The next question is okay, uh,they want to know what you think
(44:38):
about the one percent passingrule in regards to.
I don't know if you guys haveseen the movie center, but I
seen it, the movie centers, andthere was a white woman in there
and she did have, um, likeblack roots, without giving too
much of the movie.
And they want to know, like,how do you do you consider that
(45:01):
1% of black rule, you stillbeing a black person and can
engage in all black activityeven if you don't physically
look black she grew up in theculture.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
That woman grew up in it.
You know what?
I I I watched it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
She grew up in I think growing up in the culture
has a lot to do with it, becauseI was asked not to ask somebody
who we interviewed about whythey say nigga in their music
and they're not black.
But I so wrapped my black assaround and asked them off of
camera and they, and they andthey shared with me that they
felt close, a closeness to theblack culture because that's
(45:37):
where they grew up.
Shush I'm laughing anywho that'swhere they grew up and that was
their circle of friends, and Ikind of don't have an issue with
that Big pun.
That man ain't black.
I thought he was fucking mixedor something Puerto.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Rican is black.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yeah, that's what I consider.
Puerto Rican people black.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Them niggas just had one extra.
They stopped after Florida.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
At the barbershop yesterday.
He ain't in his fuck, florida.
At the barbershop yesterday, heain't in his fuck, bro.
At the barbershop yesterday Iwas sitting down waiting to get
braided up and there was thisMexican dude that came in and he
saw his homeboy and I don'tthink he realized I was there.
He was just like what's up,nigga.
And then he looked at me andgot real quiet and sat down and
stopped.
He quickly realized what washappening.
I said he quickly realized whatwas happening.
(46:27):
I said yeah and he got.
I decided I didn't hear anothernigga come out of his mouth.
It was just funny because hewas just.
He got comfortable and thenrealized yeah, it just made me
think about that, oh boy, didyou refer to the same nigga here
?
Speaker 4 (46:43):
No, he didn't say that comfortable and he probably
also wasn't talking amongst hisactual peers.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That's what that made me think about was because he
was like he saw his boy and thenwhen he saw me he was like oh
shit, I can't Just.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
To answer the question, though the passing one
, if you're referring to themovie, she was, though she was
passing.
She was 25 black, so I mean itis.
It doesn't change um her dnashe is, it is.
She is who she is, even though,I mean, I know a lot of um um
hispanic people who look white Ihave a sister that looks white,
(47:18):
so my cousin has blonde hairand blue eyes.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, you're like my sister grew up in the culture in
the middle of st louis,missouri, and was black but
could pass for white and shestill was accepted and embraced
and she looked at herself as ablack woman.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
So that's because black people are.
We are really a uh, to our ownfault, a a accepting people I
mean, it doesn't help that hername is sansanet, her being mean
like the name gave it away.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
It's like God damn it Like yeah, all right.
Yeah, I mean you got toremember.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Oh sorry, you got to remember, in all intents and
purposes, that the black womanhas the Eve genes, so me and
this nigga could have a babythat came out white.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Push out anything.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
You really rolling the dice yeah, you know, really
rolling the dice really, youliterally could have a baby that
come out my daughter was likeshe was white.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
When she came out I was like yeah, yeah, we do
change.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
We do also change as we grow.
I looked I was super light whenI came out but my grandmother
was.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
My grandmother was only half black, so my
grandmother was black, white andIndian, like legit, like I have
pictures of her father and hermother.
So my grandmother was very,very fair skin and so my
daughter was almost damn nearthe same skin complexion as my
grandmother when she was bornand she's kind of she's sons.
(48:47):
She a little dark now but she'sclose.
If you see above the hair yoube like oh that nigga.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
I don't know if my semen has Asian in it.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
I am fucking done.
No, your two oldest childrenlook like you.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, they had to, but they were when they were
born oh yeah, but over time yeahthey got, it was like they're
in the battle with Asiansomething.
Yeah, oh, and then the blackjeans are starting to come out
now, but like before it was, Iwas like because I will say, ava
, she looked like she was justHispanic.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, she looked like she was just Hispanic.
Now she look like a Hispanicbaby doll yeah, she was the
adorable one big, beautiful eyes.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
when she came out, she looked rather alien like oh,
you mean like all babies looklike that in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Some of them, I would say, for the first seven days
they just potatoes.
All babies look like that inthe beginning.
Some of them come out withtheir full heads of hair.
I would say, for the firstseven days they're just potatoes
.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
Get the fuck out of here.
They look like potatoes 50minutes Because I need to ask
this question.
I don't know if this one isgoing to be the long one, but
this is my last question.
That's what she said.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Fucking pause.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
She didn't say it, though she didn't say it to you
talk about why I mean, she isn'tanyway, um tuna can this next
question is why are women soafraid to date bisexual men?
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I don't know, I'm not bisexual.
Yeah, you said they.
How did you ask again like howdo I know?
Speaker 4 (50:38):
why are women so afraid to date bisexual when
y'all have to leave the room?
What do you mean?
Are afraid another answer I, I,I think it depends on the woman
, the woman that you ask really,for real, because up until
recently I had some ignorant assthoughts on it and I would say,
like I don't want, like toshare my you doing the bending
(51:06):
ain't nobody bending me over.
I'm so sorry that he's he'sthis way um.
This is just him.
He's me still so sorry it'smade us still what's your answer
?
honestly, I think there's morethan one way to answer this.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
I think will you do do all of them yeah I mean, we
got nothing to say.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
I think a lot of women are afraid of what others
are going to say about them ifthey, if they, date bisexual men
.
I think there's also a lot ofwomen that will date bisexual
men and maybe they might not sayit out loud or maybe you
yourself haven't found thosewomen, but there are a lot of
women.
There's a man that I follow andhe's bisexual and he made a
(51:56):
post and asked why women won'tdate him, and hundreds of women
was in under that post.
I got that.
You call me right now, likewhat's up, I'm good, I'm in your
area, what's good?
So he definitely.
There's no lack there.
(52:17):
I do think.
For me personally, um, I don'twant to.
I didn't want to date.
Okay, I might date a bisexualman now because I had to come to
terms with the fact that I ambisexual.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
So how the fuck I'm gonna tell somebody else they
can't be bisexual but I thinkmen, think men are more
accepting of a bisexual womanbecause of the perceived fantasy
.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
Yes, yeah, and that's true, and that's true.
But I just think it's such adouble standard, because if a
woman, if I go kiss my homegirl,then I just kissed my homegirl
and then I say, okay, no, I'mnot gay.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
I don't like where this is going.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
No, fuck that, I'm not gay, it's the truth, though,
if I kiss my homegirl and I say, okay, I'm not gay, but we just
had that experience, that's onething.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
But if two men have the same experience, you're gay
Immediately, you're gay forever.
Speaker 4 (52:55):
And I just think that double standard isn't fair
because it doesn't allow men tohave an opportunity to embark on
some of their own fantasies,and I don't think that's fair I
think they should be able to.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
Let me ask you this if two dudes run a train
together on one girl, are theygay?
Speaker 4 (53:10):
because there's still two penises in the room no, I
don't think so, because I thinkthey might just be comfortable
with it.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
They just fucking shit but on top of that, the the
matter of being gay, being themfucking each other so they're
running trains on women.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
They don't know how the rules go.
I don't think so.
I don't think just because you,I, yeah, I'm with you.
It's the, the, what will havemade if they having a threesome
and then they engage in a sexualact with each other, then yes,
they're gay.
But if or there are, or bywhich, which I don't but if they
are not touching each other andthey're just touching that
(53:50):
woman, then they're just havinga sexual experience with her.
I think it's a double standard.
I think this shit is fucked upand I think up until recently I
had that same ignorant, fuckedup thought process.
I don't think it's fair, so Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
I personally, then a pin cushion.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Some little needles is fair.
So I I don't know, I personally.
Did she be then a pin cushion,if they're?
Speaker 3 (54:20):
just kind of like taking like on her.
I cannot take y'all, you justremind me.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
So it's just it popped in my mind when she said
if they're just doing the act onher, it's like would she then
be the pin fishing?
Speaker 4 (54:30):
they not poking her at the?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
same time she's the brace in the tower oh my god.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Oh my god.
I feel what you're saying, des.
I do feel like that is a bigstigma, especially in our
culture, of the whole thing of.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
You love what you love.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Because I've heard men say that they've had
Encounters, encounters orexperimented in college or
whatever, and then they're likebut it doesn't, it's not
stripped away.
A woman will get the kind oflike the grace of saying well,
she was just experimenting.
It's good with men, it'll belike oh no, you're gay, bro, If
you did it, you're gay, that'snot fair.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
What if you?
Speaker 3 (55:14):
don't go to Blue Bone State Depends on what you did.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
You start sucking dick.
You take a dick dog.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
You can't take that back.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I was experimenting.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
Well, I have a homegirl, she, I have a homegirl
and she and she ate a bitch outand she don't want to do that
shit again.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
That's not her, she's not, she wasn't cleaning her no
, it's not that.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
She just isn't into women like that.
She experienced it ain't thesame.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
That's the double standard but it should be like
it should be men if I came up toyou and said, hey, I sucked my
homie's dick back in third grade.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Whoa you're gonna be like what the fuck if you tell
me you suck dick in third grade.
Whoa, you're going to be likewhat the fuck, even in third
grade.
I'm going to be like If youtell me you suck dick in third
grade.
Speaker 4 (55:49):
I'm going to be concerned that what adult was
showing that to you and made youwant to go that route in third
grade, If you tell me in highschool or in college you suck
the dick, then I'm going to belike okay at this scenario.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
What if it's?
He said it once, as opposed tomotherfuckers said he did it,
like multiple times?
Motherfuckers said he did itonce and he was like you know
what it's just not.
It wasn't for me, as opposed to, I did it throughout an entire
whatever you enjoyed it at thatpoint.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
That's not, that's not experimenting, but see
that's.
But see, the thing is, youenjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
You're battling with yourself or how you felt about
it.
You liked it.
That's what I'm saying, thatone time oh, it wasn't for me,
all right, it wasn't for you,cool.
But then if you Let, me saythis.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
Let me say this, Shout out to my cousin the shady
alien.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Shout out baby, that's my baby.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
I love him so much Me too.
So he was telling me he waslike.
He was like.
You know, my family, my family,calls me recently.
He's like recently.
I'm telling you I tried, Itried, he said he said he was
either senior in high school orright after he had graduated
high school.
He said I tried, I said I want.
He said I want to try, just tomake sure.
And he said he said it first ofall took me a while to get
(57:01):
going, he said.
And then when I got in there itfelt like hot chitlins and I
knew it wasn't for me.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
I am talking about vagina, right?
Speaker 2 (57:08):
I've never heard him work when you see this episode,
friend call me, because we needto talk this out.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
So when?
So when he told me and my wifethat meanwhile I was like, oh
yeah, he for sure, that's whatit felt like for you, then damn,
because I told him.
I said because I had a totallydifferent experience I said when
I said and I when I said and Isaid this is it it was yeah.
Yes, this is it yeah.
That was that's rough.
Speaker 4 (57:32):
Anyway, yeah, high chillness is what I say.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
I got a friend who he did that.
He let a dude suck him off andthen he was like it's not okay,
he sucked my dick but he hadnever done it again.
Yeah, he just, and I was justlike, okay, I guess I could give
you that, but you ain't nevergonna live this down.
Yeah, I mean I remember thattime that nigga sucked your dick
(57:57):
he just experienced it.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
He just got an experience.
Probably was the experience ofhis fucking life too, I think,
also in our community.
As amazing as some of thetranssexual women look nowadays,
that doesn't matter.
It's not what, it's still gay.
Us women also have a lot ofcompetition there, so it also
(58:19):
might be a little bit ofjealousy as well as to why women
won't date the bisexual men.
Because I'm damn sure, notBecause people know nigga, I
used to be a nigga and you lookbetter than me because it's a
lot of them out there.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
They motherfucking bitches is bob and this is where
everything comes from.
Speaker 4 (58:33):
Niggas need to mind their own right business
definitely need to mind theirown business, and I also think,
because I, because I think aboutthis, I'll be.
This is a question.
I've actually thought aboutparts of being asked this, I
also think with there being somany down low men and with the
stigma of AIDS being put so faron the men.
(58:56):
Like everybody can get AIDSwhen it being put on them, I
think that also it puts a fearin women.
Because, now we're like are wesafe doing this?
So I think that puts a fear inwomen, because now we're like
like, are we safe doing this?
Speaker 2 (59:09):
So I think that puts a fear in women as well.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Me personally, I think if I were to meet somebody
, if I were single and I were tomeet somebody and they were
bisexual and we connected, aslong as there was an
understanding that we weremonogamous in our relationship
just us I will probably givethat person a chance, because
you might miss the love of yourlife.
Because, when I think about it,when, when I dated women,
something I liked about them wasthey were like soft and
(59:34):
nurturing and loving and theyremembered they would go out,
all out, on your birthday andvalentine's day and whatever.
Not that niggas don't do that,but women are more susceptible
to do it because we know what welike and if I'm dating a man
that maybe is like softer inthat area, he might go out on my
birthday, but then I still alsoget the masculinity.
So I might give a bisexualnigga a chance.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
I don't know that makes a lot of sense because but
I do think that people, becauseit's it's the percentage is
higher, people automaticallyjump to the that fear exactly
but the thing is, I think nomatter if you're sexual,
sexually active period and youshould be getting yourself
checked out you don't justassume that it's only like it's
(01:00:13):
one woman.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I gotta check myself for you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
We're talking about people that are outside with
bisexuality.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Even with that, it's like, yeah, I get that you're
worried about the fear of him,it's like, but at the at the end
of the day, you should alwaysget yourself checked out and get
them checked out, because youdon't want to just assume that
yeah, regardless, so yeah, sothat's my answer.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Okay, I'm just hung up.
You what?
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
hung up on this with the pin cushion, the hot chitlin
shit yeah, that hot chitlinshit did it.
I mean, if that's how it feltfor you, that's I don't it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I said yeah, he, that's what he said cause.
Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I mean, if that's how it felt for you, that's I don't
want like half of me is likewho was this?
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
like cause that's a loose shoot that's my first
thought.
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I was like was she just, did she just have
transplasia and you just ain'thad no good one?
Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
but no shitmans yeah shit, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, I might eat that
(01:01:25):
shit.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Chitlins eat that shit that's the most nigga shit
you said on here thus far hotsauce or no hot sauce well, this
has been episode 197 of theheavyweight podcast if your
pussy look like chitlins I couldput it on.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Make sure you like subscribe, share comment If your
pussy look like shit.
Make sure you like subscribeshare comment.
Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
All that shit Until next time.
Thank you for watching Peace.
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
That's for sure, that's a wrap, y'all that's how
she wrote.
Make sure you click likesubscribe.
Tune in we on the Austrianplatform.
Until next time We'll hide atyou.
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The message behind saying the title of the
Heavyweight Podcast is to beable to say that we can weigh in
on some heavy shit.
What we're talking about isimportant from every aspect of
it.
It's a heavy weight.
It's not just about physicalweight, but the weight of things
that can weigh our minds.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
You said, you said you a smoking wing, wings,
smoking wings.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh, I was gonna say game banging yeah, that's why I
stopped, because we can't talkabout smoky.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Oh, that's right I said damn smoky bitches too.
No, he not, and it was recent.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
That's the shitty part is it was recent.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
They said they never had to take no pussy from nobody
maybe in 2024.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
They said the house staff, yeah, the house staff.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
They said he was gonna give smokers a pussy every
time smoky ass was supposed toput now listen I usually don't,
don't, uh not them guatemalas.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
They said he was in there telling them you won't get
your freedom, you know what Imean.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
He got dementia.
He old that's gonna be his out.
I don't remember he might gotdementia, make him trip.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Make him trip and that can break a hip.
Speaker 4 (01:22):
Oh smoke.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Oh, smoke breaking them.
He did put that at Gasm's thatlast album, that little album
yeah, Still talking aboutfucking.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah, but with his wife.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Nah, he was talking about the staff.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
What's up everybody?
It's your girl, dez the Diva,back with episode 197 of the
Heavyweight Podcast.
I am back this week with theseamazing gentlemen.
Introduce yourselves.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
It's your boy, molito .
Speaker 1 (01:52):
She said amazing.
So y'all go ahead, shush, y'allgo ahead, I'm being modest.
Kevin Ellis.
Kevin Ellis, wendell Ellis Jr.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
And I'm a hell of a time the guy they call McFly.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Okay, hell of a time, I like that.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I like that, but that's on a shirt.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Okay, hell, yeah, the whole sentence.
Hell of a guy, the guy theycall McFly.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
I'm about to write this On a software.
Hell of a time.
Follow At Something.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
The whole hootenanny.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
We're back with episode 197.
These questions were cultivatedby you guys, the fans.
These are the questions that Itook from the internet that you
guys all sent in, so we're gonnago with those today.
You ain't got the jar today.
I don't have the jar today,guys.
I'm sorry.
I will have the jar next timecause apparently people like the
jar.
I was actually told the jar waskinda cool.
(02:46):
People liked it because theydidn't know what order I was
gonna ask the questions again.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So people kind of like they don't know if you I'm
gonna, I'm gonna we don't havethe jar today, but she has a jar
app on her phone and it's gonnarandomly select the question
next time she should bring herbackpack and then pull them out.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Listen we can do a whole episode and I can just
display what's in the backpackso I can get people ready.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I'm all for it.
I'm all for it.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
I might help spice up your life.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I don't want that spice.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
I'm going to just go with this first question because
it was actually directedtowards me and I was also asked
this by Molito today, in so manywords, and I've been asked this
a million times.
But I was asked what myskincare regimen was.
I didn't say that shit at allhe did.
He was like girl, what kind ofmoisturizer did you use?
Today?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I was like, listen, molito, time out let's just
start with a question directedonly yeah, yeah because the next
question is directed only aty'all.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
I don't know the damn answer to the next question.
I guess this is I like it.
Speaker 3 (03:53):
I like it so what's your?
Speaker 1 (03:55):
you're gonna answer the question.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Right now I'm using the good molecules collection.
It changes per season, sothat's the answer.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
What's that?
Because we're not.
Never mind.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
I could tell you the good molecules collection it's,
it's uh, that's the answer.
What's that cause?
We're not, nevermind.
I can tell you the GoodMolecules collection it's.
That's the name of the brandokay, is it black on probably
not, but I do use.
I use butter skin in the winterand that one is actually black
on because it's butter, skin,butter, skin, butter with an A
skin by.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Yeah is it with a T butter?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
butter by dorian.
Yeah, it's what a it's two t'snot butter, it's like.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
It's like the same stutter yeah, butter okay
exactly, I'm just making sure Ilike that period.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
There was butter, love, and that was two d's right
but yes, I switch it updepending on the season so
that's what that is.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
I will post.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You switch it up like you switched that backpack up
because my mind was in thegutter when you said molecules
and I was like that sounds likesemen.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Oh, they say it makes you glow because if my man
won't, okay, so listen, I willpost my skincare regimen for the
ladies that want to know.
The next question, and I guessI could answer this, but I think
this person wanted to hearmainly from the three of you.
(05:11):
They want to know what do youthink the importance of having a
black father in the home?
Is Somebody?
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Black father.
I feel like in the home period,a is important, like just in
general.
Uh, in the community of blackit's more, needs to be more
prevalent, just because we'vebeen taken out by so many
different other factors thanourselves.
So it's harder to have thatdynamic in that home when you
(05:45):
have enough Outside forcesfighting against you anyway.
So the importance is even morethan normal if you, if you want.
So yeah, I mean it's extremelyimportant.
I don't know what else to say.
Like the dad in the home kindof is the balance that's missing
(06:06):
in a lot of homes right now.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Just in general I agree um, having a father in the
home was important for both.
Uh, regardless whether you haveboys or girls, for um, if you
have daughters having a fatheraround it, um, it teaches them.
Well, if you have boys or girls, for um, you have daughters
having a father around, um, itteaches them while you have a
good father around.
I can say it teaches them whatto look for in a, in a partner,
(06:30):
and makes them feel protected.
Um, I mean, studies have shownthat, um, little girls who are
raised with their father in lifedo you seem to be more
confident.
Um, and they feel safer, safe,um, and they feel safe at home.
For little boys, having yourdad around teaches you how to
regulate and process youremotions, to understand that, as
(06:56):
a man, this life is unforgivingand they don't care what you're
going through.
I tell my daughters every day Isaid you wake up every day
where responsibilities, whetheryou you want them or not, and
you, you have to put thoseresponsibilities above, um, your
wants, because you have tounderstand, especially as a man,
that, uh, life is not going toalways be about you, and but you
(07:23):
have to understand that whenbeing a man, being a father,
being a husband, whatever thecase may be, oftentimes you're
going to put those you lovebefore you.
So that's something that littleboys need to be taught that, as
a man, your know your wordmatters, you have to live up to
(07:46):
your word and you have to takecare of your responsibilities,
because your actions are who youare.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I dig that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
For me growing up, it was just me and my dad.
So I saw how extremelybeneficial and important it was
for me to grow up with my fatherand then for the bigger picture
of it was that I saw a lot ofmy childhood friends grow up
without their fathers.
So I saw the significance in mychildhood with my dad around and
(08:23):
the childhood of my friendsaround, with my dad around and
the childhood of my friendsaround and sometimes it was you
would get a little bit ofresentment or bitterness from
other people because of it.
So when I look at it and thesight of it, it's extremely
important.
It's even more specifically forBlack men and Black children
growing up is that we need tohave a better representation of
(08:45):
us being in the home because,like Kevin pointed out, there is
a big Factor at play wherewe're not necessarily have the
advantage of just being able tobe home or be in the home or be
(09:09):
in the home.
So, uh, yeah, it's extremelyimportant, uh, for us as a, as a
black people, to have thatimage of us being black fathers
at home and, um, even as justfathers in general, it is
extremely important for us to bepresent and, um, that's the.
I think everything else hasalready been said.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I just yeah yeah, I just want to.
I think the father in the hometoo.
It's going to sound odd, but Ithink it makes it a little less
aggressive of a way to raising,like, say, you have a boys, like
it's, it's better to have theman in that, because with women,
(09:49):
at some point those boys aregoing to become men, so she's
going to have to be moreaggressive in order to get him
to have that fear or whatever.
Yeah, so it's like they'remissing out on the soft side of
what they're supposed to have.
They're supposed to have abalance.
You're supposed to have that.
Okay, I have that.
So it's like having just one inthe house kind of messes it up
(10:14):
in that regard.
But having the father, like yousaid, it's like your dad
doesn't have to be as aggressiveas a woman would have to be.
Yes, you get what I mean.
It's like I don't have to be asaggressive as a woman would
have to be.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You get what I mean.
Like it's like.
I don't have to like I know youalready know what's what like
with a mom.
It's.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
But I felt like both both sides is needed.
Speaker 4 (10:33):
No, yeah, yeah, yeah I 100% agree.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know what I'm saying, cause you get the
nourishment Definitely.
And it's not that.
It's not that they don't bothlove you, they just both love
you differently.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, yeah, essentially, I think having a
black father in the home is goodfor the entire family unit
because that's exactly where mymind went the woman does get to
be in her feminine role, in hernurturing role as a mom, when
the dad is there.
So I think it's good for theentire family unit.
I know I didn't grow up with adad in the home and I felt like
(11:06):
until recently, when I startedto go on my healing journey,
that I had a hole in my heart,like I felt like there was a
piece of me missing withouthaving my dad in the home.
So I think, had he been there, Iprobably and I've said this on
past podcasts that I probablywouldn't have chosen the
partners that I chose pastpodcast that I probably wouldn't
(11:26):
have chosen the partners that Ichose.
I'm sure I wouldn't have chosenthe partners that I chose
because in hindsight, lookingback, I think I was either
choosing partners that needed meand wouldn't leave, or I was
choosing partners that mimickedhim in some way.
So I think the quality of thedad also plays a part, because
in that state that he's in as afather and Laura, I know I talk
(11:47):
about him and I probably soundlike a bad daughter, and I don't
mean no harm, but him in thatversion of him in the home with
me would not have sufficed foras the same as a good father in
the home, because he was in thehome with two of my siblings and
I do see how they um, Ialthough I think they're both
(12:09):
great humans, both of mysiblings are amazing, but they,
they had to grow to be that wayon their own, so I, I, yeah,
it's not only just the fatherper se, it's also the quality of
the dad.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
I think I approach it as like, as a father.
No matter whether I'm good orbad, I'm an example.
I'm either going to be theexample of what she's going to
look for or the example of whatshe's going to run from.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
So I try to be the example.
Show her what to look for andnot what to run from.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
I agree, you guys.
Yeah, you know anything else,andy?
No, okay, so the next question.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
His name is, for a good time, mcfly.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
McFly.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
She's telling my government to be sweet.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Sorry, I don't know why I'm calling you that today,
because even in conversation,when you're not there, I still
don't call you that my bad won'thappen again.
Um, this next question.
The next question is how do menwant women to be in their
(13:22):
feminine air, and a lot ofniggas are in their feminine air
I can't answer this question Idon't know how to answer that I
mean what?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
how do you?
Speaker 4 (13:35):
it's not the three of y'all, but there's lots of men
that are very much in theirfeminine air.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
They very much what are they doing to make them?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
yeah, they want you, they damn.
They want you to send themflowers, shit.
They want you to treat themdelicately and I think, uh, yeah
, that you don't think theseniggas is feminine out here I
don't know all these niggas.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Yeah, I don't know these niggas.
Is there?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
is there a bruna marge singing this to them?
Speaker 1 (14:02):
I have my uh my whole little in touch with my
femininity and you know what?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
yes, in your, in your femininity.
But I think that if we've, Ithink what she's asking, because
I know her I think what she'sasking is like, men have shied
away and some men not all, letme not put y'all all in the same
box but some men have shiedaway from being that masculine
man.
For women to be able to thrivein their feminine energy,
(14:32):
because they are in theirfeminine energy, you damn near
need to open the door for theseniggas.
They damn near want you to sendthem flowers outside of a
joking way.
A lot of times and this is just, maybe it's just me projecting
what I go through, but again, Iknow this woman who asked the
question but a lot of times,like when women are left to
(14:54):
figure out the things thatnormally men would, men would
come in and figure out I thinkthat is the um stuff.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
I think that's their direct response of these trigger
words that were created online,like toxic masculinity.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
Feminism.
Yeah, it's tough, it's like.
Speaker 4 (15:11):
No, no, no.
These niggas is out here soft.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
I mean, I'll kill a spider for you Then again no,
not kill a spider nigga.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
But what I'm saying is is that there was a time and
time, and still a little bittoday, where masculine,
masculine was considered to betoxic, when, when a man would
not necessarily I don't want tosay assert himself, would be, be
direct in his words and hisactions and stand his ground, it
(15:41):
was not taken.
It wasn't.
It wasn't.
It wasn't.
It wasn't taken correctly, likelike people women were, would
be offended if he, if he came ontoo strong or if he, if he felt
too certain way or if he madehard lines and stuff like that,
right you, it would.
There was pushback there.
So I feel like a lot of menjust kind of ease back, because
(16:04):
I do feel like there was.
I'm not saying this, I'm notsaying this like what we did.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
I'm saying I do feel like there's men out there they
kind of like, okay, well, theyadapted to what the times were,
from what they were hearing on,because no people hear shit
online and they roll with it andthey they dictate their
personality, how they move basedoff that that's the error I
think, is I actually it could bethat too, but I feel like part
of it and it's fucked up because, like, there's a lot of still
(16:31):
learning each other, becauseeverything's not that long ago,
even like just women's rights,all that stuff, yeah, so then
you, like you said, you had menthat were being masculine and
all this stuff and then but butI think a lot of men fucked it
up and where did you think theyfucked it up back?
that's the same place as beingoverly, overly, uh, aggressive,
(16:54):
because you get all of thisstuff out of.
That's where toxic masculinitycomes from.
Like you get this me too.
Shit isn't all fake, so allthat shit just went unchecked.
You know what I'm saying yeah,so then it's like now that it's
in check, it's like theovercorrection happened, so it's
like an overcorrection ah soit's.
I still think we're in a weirdspace where it's like trying to
(17:15):
figure that out that's a goodass, it's like I I think part of
the problem is, how do they saynuanced?
yeah, I think I think part ofthe problem men were trying.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
They say nuanced, yeah, like it's, I think.
I think part of the problem menwere trying to be masculine in
spaces.
They didn't need to be, becausea lot of times they they, a lot
of men think they're masculine.
They're not.
They think because they put,they talk loud, they puff their
chest out, that makes themmaster.
That's not because a lot oftimes, um, you can tell who the
real you.
You know y'all want to go thiswhole alphabetic.
Then you can tell who the realAlpha is, because Alpha ain't
(17:45):
saying much.
Alpha don't?
Brother, it don't matter whatthe it could be.
It could be in a marriage, in afriendship, in a, in a family
setting.
Alpha don't have to move a lotto get you to move the way you
need to move right.
But at the same time, like my,actually it's funny because my
wife actually said this to meyesterday.
She came across the video andit's like yeah, uh, then the one
(18:10):
was pretty much saying like,yeah, women want, like she's
basically saying, yeah, I wantmy husband to leave, but he, he
doesn't have to be so direct,right, and my response to that
was like, see, and that's theproblem, like, because we can
say something, a lot of timeswhen I say something, I'm not
gonna speak for me, I'm talkingto.
A lot of times, when I saysomething, I'm not going to
speak for me, I'm talking to me.
A lot of times when I saysomething, I say it directly.
Mcfly, I don't sugarcoat you, Isay it directly.
(18:31):
And when I'm saying it, I'm notsaying it to hurt your feelings.
I'm just telling this is what,this is what I need from you,
right, and a lot of times and mywife needs to understand that
I'm not I don't always take howyou're going to receive it or
how your feelings will beaffected by what I say or by
what I say or how I say what Isay, so that to me, that's where
(19:02):
the impasse is Right.
So it's not that I don't thinkthat a lot of women are against
being led.
I think it's their.
Their issue is how theleadership is displayed Right.
So they don't want to bedirected to do things they want
they.
They, like I said.
I said so what you're tellingme is that you want me to phrase
things as a, as a suggestion,so that you feel like you're
making the decision, even thoughI'm telling you what to do.
And I think that's where theissue was, because I think a lot
(19:23):
of men think that masculinityis like no, I'm the man, you do
what I say.
Yes that's not masculinity,that's just you being a
dictatorship.
Because just because you're theman and you make the decision
doesn't mean always mean youmake the right decisions Right,
because we're not going to talkabout the leadership.
The leadership masculinity istwo different things.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yes, it is.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Because you can be masculine and be a terrible
leader.
Yes, you can you know I'msaying so, but I I do think that
kevin said like I do think thatit is over correction and I do
think that it got.
We got to a point where somemen just just fell back and so
I'm just not going to deal withit.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
That's the problem.
Is the.
Is the fight for that is gone,because it's like we shouldn't
have a whole group of women thatwould rather be locked in with
a bear than men, but not thegorilla, though.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Well, well that's different.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
That's for men I also think it has a lot to do with
talking to your partner andlearning who how they like to be
led like.
I come off aggressive becauseI've always had a goddamn cry
baby, I've always had to beaggressive, but for a masculine
man and for a man who can beassertive when they speak, I
(20:33):
melt or I or I chill let me saythis when you, when you text me
yesterday, it was like I waslike, sorry for being rude.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I was like, nick, I didn't even take it that way,
whatever wait, but you and youdidn't but you whatever, I just
like how you melt and chill I do.
I'm about to melt in place niggabut I think that goes back to,
like I'm gonna say, for me, I'mso, I'm so grounded in who I am
(21:02):
that it that it takes a lot tomove me off of who I am.
Right, you really have todisrupt my spirit for me to
really get to a point to where Ican't control my emotions.
And I know, for me personally,there's only a few people that
can do that.
And the people that can do thatI know for a fact nine times
out of ten will not do that.
(21:22):
And I think that people havebecome so fickle and they let
social media, they let thosethat they need to be close to
them sway them so easily thatthey take these talking points
and they take these videos andthey take in the heart and then
they try to adapt that to theirown personal behavior instead of
just being who you are yeah,there's not a lot of organicness
(21:45):
going on for sure, mcfly.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
What do you think?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
I said I couldn't answer the question you didn't
say you couldn't answer that.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
I thought by now you would have had an answer.
Shit nigga.
I still got to fly back in andsee, um, we were asked to
discuss the stigma that comesalong with being a single woman
who chooses to be single andchooses not to date.
Oh, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
What the stigma like, how she's viewed or perceived.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
I think so because recently, recently um tracy
ellis ross spoke about this,about uh, no, tracy was wild.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
She what she's wild and she's trying to get young
yeah yeah, she just trying toget some young dick what you
mean by that.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
That's how she man of her age yeah, she don't want.
She want young dick, that's itthe man of her age weren't into
what she was into.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Yeah, she just want young dick, just stick a it.
The man of her age weren't intowhat she was into.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, she just want young dick she want to stick a
finger in a booty hole somewhere.
What the?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
fuck yeah, just say you want to rob the cradle, Rob,
rob, rob whatever, what's wrongwith her wanting someone
wanting?
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Nothing's wrong.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
If it's consensual, but just say it, it's extra shit
.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Yeah, it's extra shit .
Speaker 4 (22:59):
She's saying yeah, yeah, but how did y'all come to
that conclusion?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
come on, because it's the same either way come on now
you don't think niggas feel thesame way older niggas.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Did you see where she was speaking about?
You know not having childrenand not having a family at her
age.
Did we talk about the sameTracy?
Speaker 3 (23:16):
yeah, yeah, tracy, with all that ass a lot of men.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
she do got a lot of ass she dragging a wagon.
Yeah Well, they say if they seemen without kids at a certain
age, they think something'swrong with that motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But they think the same thing about women.
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yeah, he's saying it's a mutual stigma.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
But Tracy was talking about getting young dick yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
I mean, at this fucking point, go and get it,
Tracy.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
A lot of what Tracy was saying.
My only response to that washow are you selecting these
partners?
Were you really venting peopleor were you just going based
solely off of physicalattraction, because it seemed
like?
Because that's not, I say thatyou know Tracy grew up very
privileged.
We know who her mom is.
We know who her daddy is.
(24:13):
She grew up very rich.
She went and she was fame andfortune was not hard for her to
come by.
So her circles was not the sameas what our circles would be or
what the average black woman ininner city life would be.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Right.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
It's not, it's not, it's not the same black woman in
inner city life would be right.
It's not, it's not the it's notthe same.
So my thing was like what, whatenvironment would you put in
you in putting yourself in toactually select a potential
partner that you couldn't find?
Nobody, because if you're onlygoing off of people in the
entertainment industryunderstandable, because you're
not people I don't think people,I don't think a lot of people
in the entertainment industryare there looking for
(24:52):
connections with substance, likethat dumb ass shit.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Paul Pierce said if I can make a guess, it would be
she was with people in like morepowerful positions than her
older.
Older men in those positionsaren't going to be willing to do
different things.
They're not going to be willingto play a certain role as a man
.
She's going to have to play herposition in that position,
(25:16):
right.
So I can understand where shewas coming from in that, but
it's like that's like you said,you chose to go into that pool.
You know this is how these menare.
That ain't going to change.
So yeah, you gotta take someonus in that.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
But I, I do also.
I do also feel like it's it'swhen certain women make a
certain amount of money, it'shard for them to play a
subservient role.
Yeah, because they feel like Idon't need you, I can get it by
myself.
That's what I think happened.
So, and I, and I think that'skind of what she struggled from,
because she don't need nobody,kind of what she struggled from
(25:50):
because she don't need nobody.
She's always, and even evenwhat was left to her, that's
probably more than what mostpeople who pursue her would make
.
So she's not so from her.
From my perspective, herrelationships had to be built
off substance, because it's notlike she doesn't need anybody to
provide for her.
So it has it had to be mattersof the heart okay.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
Well, in reference to the to, to the non-tracy ellis
woman in her um in her question,I don't know.
I think the stigma against umsingle women is it is unhealthy.
I think it's okay for you to bea single woman and and choose
not to have a study partner.
You shouldn't be labeled asanything other than just a damn
(26:31):
woman who made a conscientiouschoice.
Relationships are hard as helland stressful and sometimes you
just do not have it in you to bein another one and I don't
think that should be a problemat all, because that shit is
stressful.
I I digress.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
I'm about to go in a rampage but everybody, I think
it's all fucked up.
I think everybody trying to beyoung.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
Don't want to grow up .
Speaker 1 (26:53):
Well, yeah, but Not just saying.
Speaker 4 (26:54):
I'm just saying in general, my knees remind me of
everyone, well, even Iexperienced it with not having
children and people who don'tknow why I don't have children.
You 40?
Oh you getting up there, yourclock ticking.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Well, that ain't their business.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
It's like well, you should tell the fucking people,
because maybe they do not give adamn if it's their business or
not.
But that's just it, bottom line.
People need to learn how tomind their own goddamn business
and let people do what they'regoing to do.
If you want to be single, youshould be able to be single and
not have to answer any damnquestions towards it or not have
to deal with anybody making anytype of judgment towards you,
because it ain't nobody's damnbusiness why you want to be
(27:28):
single.
Same thing with children.
There are a lot of people whojust don't even fucking want
kids.
I say it all the time If I knewthat I could have children
without a hitch, I probablywould want them motherfuckers in
my house, because I don't likeall the goddamn kids in my house
.
I can't handle more than one ortwo.
I don't want all them damn kidsliving with me.
But because I'm one of thosepeople that once you tell me I
(28:00):
can't do something, I think I'lldo it then now I'm like but in
my younger days I didn't wantchildren because I didn't want
them kids living with me.
Yeah, so I mean, some peoplejust genuinely don't desire that
and it should be nothing wrongwith that I mean this I don't
see anything wrong with a womanbeing single if that's her
choice.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I don't see why people have an issue with that.
But again, live your life, dowhat you want to do.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, definitely.
I just think everybody keeptrying to explain themselves to
everybody and you don't have to.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
And you don't have to , and that's just the thing.
That's what we're.
Growing up, yeah, well, growingup, yeah, no.
Well, this the person who askedthe question.
She growed to shit.
No, no, I don't mean that she'sasking for podcast.
Yeah, for podcast purposes, she, she's actually go to starbucks
and be like hey, um.
The next question is why isbeing an opportunist the new
(28:45):
norm, versus grinding andgetting it out the mud?
That ain't new yeah, niggasbeen um scamming and jamming for
isn't that smarter, not harder?
Speaker 2 (28:57):
I?
Speaker 4 (28:57):
mean, yeah, niggas been scamming and jamming for.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
But it's like uh, like matt was saying, with the
buying bots, you have to dealwith that it's like you do it
that way is it and.
Is it?
Is it really easier?
Speaker 4 (29:12):
Yeah, and I tie a lot of things back to social media
as well, because I do think thatyou know it's a lot of like oh,
niggas should be paying foreverything.
You should need to have theseniggas do this and this and that
going on on social media.
And then you see the woman thatI'm not going to talk about.
Speaker 3 (29:26):
That, but no she got dues paying for everything, but
she's sucking and fucking forthese strips.
Speaker 4 (29:30):
She's doing something , yeah, she's not just getting
it, it's an illusion that peopleare running with.
It is all a fucking illusion.
Like literally.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
I would say that you grind to the opportunity to
present yourself.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
I like that.
I think people have adisconnect with money too.
What you mean because if youlisten to the way we talk about
like certain entertainers andlike you'll hear people throw
numbers out and you're likeain't no way that motherfucker's
making that much money.
But in our heads it's like, oh,this is where it's at.
(30:06):
So people are like how do I getto a hundred hundred million
dollars?
You're like everybody ain't gota hundred million dollars no,
like I promise you that like?
yeah it ain't that easy and Idon't know, maybe they think
it's that's how it works, butit's like you didn't see what
joe rogan had to do to get tothat contract and the same thing
was like what they talk aboutwith liquid and uh, and what
(30:29):
you're worth yeah, different soit's like you might be worth
that much, but it doesn't meanthat's what you can actually
have.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
Kanye don't have a billion liquid.
Yeah, no, he ain't got nobillion right now he, definitely
he spent, he spent most of thatbill gates probably got a
billion liquid, but kanye spentmost of the money on that.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Fuck the bad studio um but can?
Speaker 3 (30:45):
I saw.
It's funny.
I saw another video yesterdayand he was like I didn't
understand the differencebetween people who are rich and
people who weren't so rich untilI bought a house.
And then he panned the cameraaround he said look at these
goddamn trees.
And it's like it was like theshrubs, like those motherfuckers
, are a hundred dollars a pieceat lowes and the dude had like
(31:05):
20.
He said I'm counting.
He said he said as a homeowner,you drop by like I don't know
what that shit called they doinggood.
And I was like that's the realshit, I'm like damn, you got
that.
Okay, I know how much that costsokay, different, you got a box
cut on them.
I live.
Look, he said some of us livein the neighborhood.
(31:27):
Some of us live in theneighborhood.
It's different, yeah.
Some of us just happy to behere.
Some of us are thriving in theneighborhood, yeah, so it ain't
better to go quick though no, no, definitely, not definitely.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
But that's all.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
Like you said, society I mean it really depends
, because if we get another damnpandemic, I might, I might, I
might have to scam with thescammers, because none of them
niggas in jail.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
You are wrong about that.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
No, just the ones that did the excessive ones.
Okay, I'm not cosigning this.
They hit a million, hit twomillion, hit two million.
Them ones is in there.
Them ones is in there.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
We're going to see some niggas in 2027 getting
locked up.
Jesus Christ, it's going tocatch up to yours?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
No, yeah, I agree, I'm just kidding.
But the next question is do wethink that the recent spaceship
with Katy Perry, did they reallygo on a spaceship?
Speaker 2 (32:22):
I don't care.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Listen, I don't care Listen.
Speaker 3 (32:26):
You lost me to Katy Perry and Gale.
They went to space.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
I think they might have went and the only reason
why I think they went is becauseof Gayle's reaction.
I told y'all them white womenwas going up there, they just
happy, they ringing that bell.
And then Gayle got up there andwas like I would have went, but
it cost too much.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
They paid for that.
No, they did it for free.
It's advertisement.
He's selling.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
It's an advertisement I, I think there was, there
were weird things like, likewhen they opened when they
opened the door and hurried up,close that motherfucker back and
did open it again.
That was weird.
But gail kissing that dirt,gail, don't give me.
She kissed dirt for no damnreason that scares me, though,
that that's how cheap this shitis yeah, they popped that
motherfucker pop, pop, pop thatlittle dope and like it was a
damn civic um.
(33:09):
But yeah, I don't either way,it doesn't matter, it doesn't
affect me.
The egg price is still to costa goddamn much.
That's the fuck I'm worriedabout.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
But I think they went yeah, the only thing is
innovation, thanks, yeah, theydefinitely.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Um, gail took a ass up there.
Oprah told her to go in herplace, I'm sure um they want to
know the thoughts on the carmeloanthony case.
Um, oh yeah, we discussed thaton the carmelo anthony case um
the what.
Yeah, we discussed that earlierthe carmelo anthony case the
young gentleman who um stabbedthe I'm waiting for the white
gentleman to death the two youngthere were two young teenagers
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oh, the kids um the kidsI don't think justice is going
to be to be served in that.
I think they're going to givethe gentleman who did the
stabbing an astronomical amountof time, because it has involved
the worst case of white ragethat I've seen this month.
And no, it hasn't.
What was worse, the father whokilled the sheriff, the father
(34:10):
who killed the sheriff, he didget damn.
Might I say that I'm mightyproud of that man for walking
through with his head held high.
He stood the fuck on businessand I they were also not going
to give his son justice and hetook justice into his own hand.
And I am not mad at thatgentleman.
I saw the video, he did what hehe did what the fuck he had to
(34:32):
do.
The little boy was running away.
Um, there was no threat to thatofficer.
That young man was running away, so he did what he had to do.
Good job, dad.
Back to carmelo.
Um, they're not gonna.
It's an unfortunate situationbecause both families lost out.
The the gentleman who was wasstabbed.
(34:54):
Unfortunately, he was trying todo an adult's job.
If he felt like carmelo was ina space he wasn't supposed to be
in, go get somebody.
It wasn't your job to to topolice him or to tell him what
to do and give him the one withthe tent with the tent and,
given the environment that theywere in carmelo, was probably
(35:15):
scared.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
They live in texas and and wasn't he being bullied
and he's able to self-defense?
Yeah, I don't know enough.
I'm not gonna mention.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
That's why I'm not talking yeah, he was being
bullied and it was self-defenseI just feel, like they're going
to end up giving.
I mean, they're now.
They're now passing deaththreats and shit to the damn
judge that that allowed him toget a bill that was um that was
um, you know, affordable for hisfamily.
His family seemed to alreadyhave had money.
They lived in a really nicehome and drove really nice cars.
(35:43):
These people are going onlineand lying and saying that
they're taking the gofundmemoney and whatever.
I just feel like like I hatethat it was a black boy and a
white boy, because if it werejust two white children, the
conversation would be totallyfucking different.
Or two black children I hatethat it was a black boy and a
(36:04):
white boy Because now we'reprobably going to witness this
young man go to jail for theastronomical amount of time for
self-defense, and so that is mytake on that I don't know enough
.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Yeah, that's my, that's my take on me.
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Y'all know I watch all the.
I read all the black shits Iget you, but we're we weren't
there.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
And it's tough because it's like if that was my
kid and my kid was out of line,I still don't think my kid
should be dead, so it's toughyeah, no, yeah, and that's why I
said my heart goes out to bothfamilies, because they both are.
Speaker 4 (36:40):
They're both suffering right now there.
There is no party in thissituation that isn't in
astronomical pain.
So I, I, my heart goes out toboth families, for sure, but I,
I, definitely, I don't know.
You got a good lawyer pleasestand around you just definitely
hope that, um, it, it just itjust works out for everybody.
(37:01):
Um, I'm gonna ask this questiony'all, but I don't.
I've never heard this in mylife, so I'm gonna ask this
question.
I do not.
I don't have an answer.
I mean, it's a simple question,I just don't have the answer
for it because, because I ain'tnever heard it um they this
person asked why is there ataboo against black women who
(37:22):
date korean or asian men?
I never heard that some of themasian motherfuckers is finer
than a motherfucker.
I never heard nobody say blackwomen can't.
Now I do hear nowadays.
Occasionally I'll hear somebodysay something about black women
dating outside of their race.
But I think it's because it'sbeen made such a big deal.
(37:43):
Okay, black men get rich, theygo date white women, not.
Not that I feel like that's thecase, I don't.
But now we're dating outside ofour race and we hear things.
But I never heard nobody saydon't date no Asian because some
of them, especially them Asiancrips.
Why are they in?
What the fuck?
Yes, lord them Asian crips.
They be cripping, they bethrowing up chokie.
(38:03):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
So it could just be any Asian crip yes, the way you
said it Shoot.
Speaker 4 (38:12):
Yes, the way you said it shoot him up, bang bang.
What's homeboy, what's crit maxhomie?
I don't know.
Y'all know, y'all know.
I like him to shoot him up,bang bang.
My next nigga gonna have tohave two, at least two tattoos
on his face, bam I never heardthat.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
I remember being what was it uh?
Speaker 4 (38:24):
yes, we grew up with theo right, yeah, and theo was
fine he was on that radio like,hey y'all, thank you for coming.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
92.3.
Oh, I have no comment on thisquestion.
Speaker 4 (38:36):
And then he popped out on Boisha.
He was short, tight-eyed, hewas fine as shit, though Wow,
yes, that's my answer.
I never heard nobody say thatit's an Asian nigga on my
motherfucking timeline right now, every black in america being
that nigga's goddamn in.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
But I know they do good baby did an asian write
this, or was it?
Speaker 4 (38:55):
it's a black lady who asked me this she want an asian
man.
Go get him.
Get you what?
Get you an asian man?
Because, baby, I have not neverheard nobody tell.
And we make beautiful childrenwhen we mix.
The right a marie ain't sheasian, she asian, and yes, she
is a marie.
And janae a A Marie and JheneAiko Make beautiful children
when we mix with Asian people,don't?
Speaker 1 (39:15):
say Jhene Aiko.
Speaker 4 (39:17):
Ain't she fine?
Yeah, mix them races together,baby.
I'm trying to tell you rightnow yes again, I'm gonna need my
next nigga to have at least twotattoos on his face, preferably
right here.
Boom.
Next question Try to let y'allknow.
Speaker 3 (39:34):
That's the second question.
That was just for her.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
She want a nigga with no job.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Well, I mean she's already said she's fine with
paying half the shit.
Speaker 1 (39:43):
That's going to be more than half.
That's going to be all the shit.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
What is wrong with me being fine with going 50-50?
Speaker 2 (39:51):
It's going to be 100-0.
In that scenario, you'll bepaying everything.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
I don't like y'all.
All you're going to do is dropoff a dick 90-10.
Speaker 2 (40:00):
You're going to be.
Speaker 4 (40:01):
Jody.
Oh God please, I hate Jody.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
You're going to come back with a number seven.
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I bought dinner.
I hate Jody.
I don't like Jody at all.
Speaker 2 (40:13):
Really, Jody was my favorite.
That nigga with tattoos isgoing to be Jody.
Speaker 4 (40:16):
Go whore dude, I don't like Jody at all.
I don't like Jody.
I do like Lucy's, that's it.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
Cry for your mom.
Speaker 4 (40:25):
Give me a strawberry shake.
Did you say cry?
Speaker 2 (40:28):
for your mom Mama.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
Mama, that shit is's good, ain't it?
Lucy's good as shit did y'all,do you guys know, the theme of
the most recent met gala.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
No, some was it ultra black it is it?
Speaker 4 (40:47):
I don't know.
It wasn't ultra, but it wasdandyism, Dandyism yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Dandy.
Speaker 4 (40:51):
Black shit.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:54):
Why?
Because we were asked.
I'm going to have to ask youthis.
In a way.
She asked me when we actuallyspoke because I had to call her
and get clarity.
Do we feel like it was okay forthe white people to dress up in
the dandyism outfits?
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
I didn't care.
Personally, I haven't seen it,so I don't care.
Speaker 4 (41:16):
I don't give a damn about that.
Why the fuck would I get?
Speaker 2 (41:18):
that Drop the ball.
Yeah, they didn't get theassignment.
Speaker 1 (41:25):
No, they did horribly , but you know what they could
just be like.
Well, I felt it wasinappropriate.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Okay, but you know what they could just be like.
Well, I felt it wasinappropriate, okay.
So the lady who asked me thequestion, she felt like it was
inappropriate for them to, to,to dress, um, in that way and I
felt like if they would havewent and they would have went
all out it as long as they Imean, shit, shit, I don't, I
don't care what they, what theywere to the gala, I just
realized what the fuck they waseven doing in them damn costumes
every year.
So I didn't.
I see the Met Gala every year,but I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
I actually had to ask her, you watch it.
Speaker 4 (42:03):
No, I see the highlights and stuff.
I don't watch it.
I didn't know what it was untilshe told me what it was.
I was like what the fuck isthat Like?
What are they doing?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
Did she have like a follow-up question to Andre
3000's piano backpack?
Speaker 4 (42:16):
What was that?
I have a question why did hehave that on?
Was there a symbolism?
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Because he put out a flute album too.
He put out a piano album.
He put that one.
Oh, did he.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
I heard it wasn't, it was trash.
Yeah, I heard that it was trash, it was.
It was from 10 years ago orlike whatever.
Speaker 4 (42:34):
Yeah, he he he's not a piano player, so he decided,
doing shit to be doing shit atthis point yeah, which is dope,
I mean, if you get.
If you have freedom, that'sfreedom.
Yeah, he had that part of lifebut sometimes we gotta go.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Hey man, that's too much freedom, nigga.
Why you wearing that piano?
Speaker 3 (42:50):
look here, man.
If anybody said that to Jaden,they played the house nigga.
Jaden with the house.
Nigga, hey, listen.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
I might have been the only guy who went.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I laughed.
I laughed, I said this nigga iswild.
No, that's a house nigga.
I think that the woman whoasked me this question, I think
ultimately, I think she just betrying to find a way to be
supportive, but be um is shewhite?
(43:24):
but be um respectful in hersupport because she because she
yeah because, she asked me a lotof um like racially based
questions, and I think that itreally is her just trying to be
supportive.
She she is like avid watcher.
She doesn't damn near seeingeverything that we do, and I
think she just wants to know how, how to be supportive of us um
(43:47):
in a space where she's stillbeing respectful, if that makes
sense it.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
It's all about intention.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
Yeah, it's definitely all about the intention.
Definitely, you know me,definitely.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Be true to your heart ?
Yeah, and let us deal with it.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
Yeah, I don't have an issue with the people who, with
the white people who did selectto go in the dandyism outfit.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
They didn't do the Ted Danson.
Is it Danson Dansa?
How you say his name?
Speaker 4 (44:17):
yeah, tony Danson the Tony now, that would have been
a problem yeah that would havebeen a total problem.
The next question is okay, wouldhave been a total problem, um.
The next question is okay, uh,they want to know what you think
(44:38):
about the one percent passingrule in regards to.
I don't know if you guys haveseen the movie center, but I
seen it, the movie centers, andthere was a white woman in there
and she did have, um, likeblack roots, without giving too
much of the movie.
And they want to know, like,how do you do you consider that
(45:01):
1% of black rule, you stillbeing a black person and can
engage in all black activityeven if you don't physically
look black she grew up in theculture.
Speaker 1 (45:13):
That woman grew up in it.
You know what?
I I I watched it.
Speaker 4 (45:16):
She grew up in I think growing up in the culture
has a lot to do with it, becauseI was asked not to ask somebody
who we interviewed about whythey say nigga in their music
and they're not black.
But I so wrapped my black assaround and asked them off of
camera and they, and they andthey shared with me that they
felt close, a closeness to theblack culture because that's
(45:37):
where they grew up.
Shush I'm laughing anywho that'swhere they grew up and that was
their circle of friends, and Ikind of don't have an issue with
that Big pun.
That man ain't black.
I thought he was fucking mixedor something Puerto.
Speaker 3 (45:58):
Rican is black.
Speaker 4 (45:59):
Yeah, that's what I consider.
Puerto Rican people black.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
Them niggas just had one extra.
They stopped after Florida.
Speaker 2 (46:06):
At the barbershop yesterday.
He ain't in his fuck, florida.
At the barbershop yesterday, heain't in his fuck, bro.
At the barbershop yesterday Iwas sitting down waiting to get
braided up and there was thisMexican dude that came in and he
saw his homeboy and I don'tthink he realized I was there.
He was just like what's up,nigga.
And then he looked at me andgot real quiet and sat down and
stopped.
He quickly realized what washappening.
I said he quickly realized whatwas happening.
(46:27):
I said yeah and he got.
I decided I didn't hear anothernigga come out of his mouth.
It was just funny because hewas just.
He got comfortable and thenrealized yeah, it just made me
think about that, oh boy, didyou refer to the same nigga here
?
Speaker 4 (46:43):
No, he didn't say that comfortable and he probably
also wasn't talking amongst hisactual peers.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
That's what that made me think about was because he
was like he saw his boy and thenwhen he saw me he was like oh
shit, I can't Just.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
To answer the question, though the passing one
, if you're referring to themovie, she was, though she was
passing.
She was 25 black, so I mean itis.
It doesn't change um her dnashe is, it is.
She is who she is, even though,I mean, I know a lot of um um
hispanic people who look white Ihave a sister that looks white,
(47:18):
so my cousin has blonde hairand blue eyes.
Speaker 2 (47:21):
Yeah, you're like my sister grew up in the culture in
the middle of st louis,missouri, and was black but
could pass for white and shestill was accepted and embraced
and she looked at herself as ablack woman.
Speaker 3 (47:36):
So that's because black people are.
We are really a uh, to our ownfault, a a accepting people I
mean, it doesn't help that hername is sansanet, her being mean
like the name gave it away.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
It's like God damn it Like yeah, all right.
Yeah, I mean you got toremember.
Speaker 4 (47:53):
Oh sorry, you got to remember, in all intents and
purposes, that the black womanhas the Eve genes, so me and
this nigga could have a babythat came out white.
Speaker 3 (48:03):
Push out anything.
Speaker 4 (48:04):
You really rolling the dice yeah, you know, really
rolling the dice really, youliterally could have a baby that
come out my daughter was likeshe was white.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
When she came out I was like yeah, yeah, we do
change.
Speaker 4 (48:17):
We do also change as we grow.
I looked I was super light whenI came out but my grandmother
was.
Speaker 3 (48:23):
My grandmother was only half black, so my
grandmother was black, white andIndian, like legit, like I have
pictures of her father and hermother.
So my grandmother was very,very fair skin and so my
daughter was almost damn nearthe same skin complexion as my
grandmother when she was bornand she's kind of she's sons.
(48:47):
She a little dark now but she'sclose.
If you see above the hair yoube like oh that nigga.
Speaker 2 (48:56):
I don't know if my semen has Asian in it.
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (49:00):
I am fucking done.
No, your two oldest childrenlook like you.
Speaker 2 (49:07):
Yeah, they had to, but they were when they were
born oh yeah, but over time yeahthey got, it was like they're
in the battle with Asiansomething.
Yeah, oh, and then the blackjeans are starting to come out
now, but like before it was, Iwas like because I will say, ava
, she looked like she was justHispanic.
Speaker 3 (49:26):
Yeah, she looked like she was just Hispanic.
Now she look like a Hispanicbaby doll yeah, she was the
adorable one big, beautiful eyes.
Speaker 4 (49:34):
What?
Speaker 2 (49:37):
when she came out, she looked rather alien like oh,
you mean like all babies looklike that in the beginning.
Speaker 3 (49:45):
Some of them, I would say, for the first seven days
they just potatoes.
All babies look like that inthe beginning.
Some of them come out withtheir full heads of hair.
I would say, for the firstseven days they're just potatoes
.
Speaker 4 (49:52):
Get the fuck out of here.
They look like potatoes 50minutes Because I need to ask
this question.
I don't know if this one isgoing to be the long one, but
this is my last question.
That's what she said.
Speaker 1 (50:06):
Fucking pause.
Speaker 2 (50:15):
She didn't say it, though she didn't say it to you
talk about why I mean, she isn'tanyway, um tuna can this next
question is why are women soafraid to date bisexual men?
Speaker 1 (50:33):
I don't know, I'm not bisexual.
Yeah, you said they.
How did you ask again like howdo I know?
Speaker 4 (50:38):
why are women so afraid to date bisexual when
y'all have to leave the room?
What do you mean?
Are afraid another answer I, I,I think it depends on the woman
, the woman that you ask really,for real, because up until
recently I had some ignorant assthoughts on it and I would say,
like I don't want, like toshare my you doing the bending
(51:06):
ain't nobody bending me over.
I'm so sorry that he's he'sthis way um.
This is just him.
He's me still so sorry it'smade us still what's your answer
?
honestly, I think there's morethan one way to answer this.
Speaker 3 (51:29):
I think will you do do all of them yeah I mean, we
got nothing to say.
Speaker 4 (51:33):
I think a lot of women are afraid of what others
are going to say about them ifthey, if they, date bisexual men
.
I think there's also a lot ofwomen that will date bisexual
men and maybe they might not sayit out loud or maybe you
yourself haven't found thosewomen, but there are a lot of
women.
There's a man that I follow andhe's bisexual and he made a
(51:56):
post and asked why women won'tdate him, and hundreds of women
was in under that post.
I got that.
You call me right now, likewhat's up, I'm good, I'm in your
area, what's good?
So he definitely.
There's no lack there.
(52:17):
I do think.
For me personally, um, I don'twant to.
I didn't want to date.
Okay, I might date a bisexualman now because I had to come to
terms with the fact that I ambisexual.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
So how the fuck I'm gonna tell somebody else they
can't be bisexual but I thinkmen, think men are more
accepting of a bisexual womanbecause of the perceived fantasy
.
Speaker 4 (52:31):
Yes, yeah, and that's true, and that's true.
But I just think it's such adouble standard, because if a
woman, if I go kiss my homegirl,then I just kissed my homegirl
and then I say, okay, no, I'mnot gay.
Speaker 3 (52:43):
I don't like where this is going.
Speaker 4 (52:44):
No, fuck that, I'm not gay, it's the truth, though,
if I kiss my homegirl and I say, okay, I'm not gay, but we just
had that experience, that's onething.
Speaker 2 (52:51):
But if two men have the same experience, you're gay
Immediately, you're gay forever.
Speaker 4 (52:55):
And I just think that double standard isn't fair
because it doesn't allow men tohave an opportunity to embark on
some of their own fantasies,and I don't think that's fair I
think they should be able to.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
Let me ask you this if two dudes run a train
together on one girl, are theygay?
Speaker 4 (53:10):
because there's still two penises in the room no, I
don't think so, because I thinkthey might just be comfortable
with it.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
They just fucking shit but on top of that, the the
matter of being gay, being themfucking each other so they're
running trains on women.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
They don't know how the rules go.
I don't think so.
I don't think just because you,I, yeah, I'm with you.
It's the, the, what will havemade if they having a threesome
and then they engage in a sexualact with each other, then yes,
they're gay.
But if or there are, or bywhich, which I don't but if they
are not touching each other andthey're just touching that
(53:50):
woman, then they're just havinga sexual experience with her.
I think it's a double standard.
I think this shit is fucked upand I think up until recently I
had that same ignorant, fuckedup thought process.
I don't think it's fair, so Idon't know.
Speaker 2 (54:04):
I personally, then a pin cushion.
Speaker 4 (54:17):
Some little needles is fair.
So I I don't know, I personally.
Did she be then a pin cushion,if they're?
Speaker 3 (54:20):
just kind of like taking like on her.
I cannot take y'all, you justremind me.
Speaker 2 (54:22):
So it's just it popped in my mind when she said
if they're just doing the act onher, it's like would she then
be the pin fishing?
Speaker 4 (54:30):
they not poking her at the?
Speaker 1 (54:31):
same time she's the brace in the tower oh my god.
Speaker 2 (54:39):
Oh my god.
I feel what you're saying, des.
I do feel like that is a bigstigma, especially in our
culture, of the whole thing of.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
You love what you love.
Speaker 2 (54:52):
Because I've heard men say that they've had
Encounters, encounters orexperimented in college or
whatever, and then they're likebut it doesn't, it's not
stripped away.
A woman will get the kind oflike the grace of saying well,
she was just experimenting.
It's good with men, it'll belike oh no, you're gay, bro, If
you did it, you're gay, that'snot fair.
Speaker 4 (55:13):
What if you?
Speaker 3 (55:14):
don't go to Blue Bone State Depends on what you did.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
You start sucking dick.
You take a dick dog.
Speaker 3 (55:20):
You can't take that back.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
I was experimenting.
Speaker 4 (55:23):
Well, I have a homegirl, she, I have a homegirl
and she and she ate a bitch outand she don't want to do that
shit again.
Speaker 3 (55:30):
That's not her, she's not, she wasn't cleaning her no
, it's not that.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
She just isn't into women like that.
She experienced it ain't thesame.
Speaker 1 (55:36):
That's the double standard but it should be like
it should be men if I came up toyou and said, hey, I sucked my
homie's dick back in third grade.
Speaker 3 (55:43):
Whoa you're gonna be like what the fuck if you tell
me you suck dick in third grade.
Whoa, you're going to be likewhat the fuck, even in third
grade.
I'm going to be like If youtell me you suck dick in third
grade.
Speaker 4 (55:49):
I'm going to be concerned that what adult was
showing that to you and made youwant to go that route in third
grade, If you tell me in highschool or in college you suck
the dick, then I'm going to belike okay at this scenario.
Speaker 2 (56:04):
What if it's?
He said it once, as opposed tomotherfuckers said he did it,
like multiple times?
Motherfuckers said he did itonce and he was like you know
what it's just not.
It wasn't for me, as opposed to, I did it throughout an entire
whatever you enjoyed it at thatpoint.
Speaker 4 (56:18):
That's not, that's not experimenting, but see
that's.
But see, the thing is, youenjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (56:22):
You're battling with yourself or how you felt about
it.
You liked it.
That's what I'm saying, thatone time oh, it wasn't for me,
all right, it wasn't for you,cool.
But then if you Let, me saythis.
Speaker 3 (56:32):
Let me say this, Shout out to my cousin the shady
alien.
Speaker 4 (56:36):
Shout out baby, that's my baby.
Speaker 3 (56:39):
I love him so much Me too.
So he was telling me he waslike.
He was like.
You know, my family, my family,calls me recently.
He's like recently.
I'm telling you I tried, Itried, he said he said he was
either senior in high school orright after he had graduated
high school.
He said I tried, I said I want.
He said I want to try, just tomake sure.
And he said he said it first ofall took me a while to get
(57:01):
going, he said.
And then when I got in there itfelt like hot chitlins and I
knew it wasn't for me.
Speaker 4 (57:05):
I am talking about vagina, right?
Speaker 2 (57:08):
I've never heard him work when you see this episode,
friend call me, because we needto talk this out.
Speaker 3 (57:14):
So when?
So when he told me and my wifethat meanwhile I was like, oh
yeah, he for sure, that's whatit felt like for you, then damn,
because I told him.
I said because I had a totallydifferent experience I said when
I said and I when I said and Isaid this is it it was yeah.
Yes, this is it yeah.
That was that's rough.
Speaker 4 (57:32):
Anyway, yeah, high chillness is what I say.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
I got a friend who he did that.
He let a dude suck him off andthen he was like it's not okay,
he sucked my dick but he hadnever done it again.
Yeah, he just, and I was justlike, okay, I guess I could give
you that, but you ain't nevergonna live this down.
Yeah, I mean I remember thattime that nigga sucked your dick
(57:57):
he just experienced it.
Speaker 4 (57:59):
He just got an experience.
Probably was the experience ofhis fucking life too, I think,
also in our community.
As amazing as some of thetranssexual women look nowadays,
that doesn't matter.
It's not what, it's still gay.
Us women also have a lot ofcompetition there, so it also
(58:19):
might be a little bit ofjealousy as well as to why women
won't date the bisexual men.
Because I'm damn sure, notBecause people know nigga, I
used to be a nigga and you lookbetter than me because it's a
lot of them out there.
Speaker 1 (58:29):
They motherfucking bitches is bob and this is where
everything comes from.
Speaker 4 (58:33):
Niggas need to mind their own right business
definitely need to mind theirown business, and I also think,
because I, because I think aboutthis, I'll be.
This is a question.
I've actually thought aboutparts of being asked this, I
also think with there being somany down low men and with the
stigma of AIDS being put so faron the men.
(58:56):
Like everybody can get AIDSwhen it being put on them, I
think that also it puts a fearin women.
Because, now we're like are wesafe doing this?
So I think that puts a fear inwomen, because now we're like
like, are we safe doing this?
Speaker 2 (59:09):
So I think that puts a fear in women as well.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Me personally, I think if I were to meet somebody
, if I were single and I were tomeet somebody and they were
bisexual and we connected, aslong as there was an
understanding that we weremonogamous in our relationship
just us I will probably givethat person a chance, because
you might miss the love of yourlife.
Because, when I think about it,when, when I dated women,
something I liked about them wasthey were like soft and
(59:34):
nurturing and loving and theyremembered they would go out,
all out, on your birthday andvalentine's day and whatever.
Not that niggas don't do that,but women are more susceptible
to do it because we know what welike and if I'm dating a man
that maybe is like softer inthat area, he might go out on my
birthday, but then I still alsoget the masculinity.
So I might give a bisexualnigga a chance.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
I don't know that makes a lot of sense because but
I do think that people, becauseit's it's the percentage is
higher, people automaticallyjump to the that fear exactly
but the thing is, I think nomatter if you're sexual,
sexually active period and youshould be getting yourself
checked out you don't justassume that it's only like it's
(01:00:13):
one woman.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I gotta check myself for you.
Speaker 4 (01:00:16):
We're talking about people that are outside with
bisexuality.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Even with that, it's like, yeah, I get that you're
worried about the fear of him,it's like, but at the at the end
of the day, you should alwaysget yourself checked out and get
them checked out, because youdon't want to just assume that
yeah, regardless, so yeah, sothat's my answer.
Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Okay, I'm just hung up.
You what?
Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
hung up on this with the pin cushion, the hot chitlin
shit yeah, that hot chitlinshit did it.
I mean, if that's how it feltfor you, that's I don't it.
Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I said yeah, he, that's what he said cause.
Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
I mean, if that's how it felt for you, that's I don't
want like half of me is likewho was this?
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
like cause that's a loose shoot that's my first
thought.
Speaker 3 (01:00:57):
I was like was she just, did she just have
transplasia and you just ain'thad no good one?
Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
but no shitmans yeah shit, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,yeah, yeah, I might eat that
(01:01:25):
shit.
Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
Chitlins eat that shit that's the most nigga shit
you said on here thus far hotsauce or no hot sauce well, this
has been episode 197 of theheavyweight podcast if your
pussy look like chitlins I couldput it on.
Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Make sure you like subscribe, share comment If your
pussy look like shit.
Make sure you like subscribeshare comment.
Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
All that shit Until next time.
Thank you for watching Peace.
Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
That's for sure, that's a wrap, y'all that's how
she wrote.
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