July 3, 2025 • 42 mins
Dirty Birdy walks in and the whole vibe shifts.
This episode is a full-course meal of lyricism, life wisdom, and straight-up legacy. From beat machines at dawn to international record deals, Dirty Birdie tells the truth behind the bars—and the family-first mindset that guided his career decisions.
Fatherhood. Music industry war stories. Creative fire that never went out.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
you feel me, yeah, because all the dirty birdie
shit is is just me is a, afive-year-old black kid that
didn't didn't get no therapy forthe trauma and shit.
You feel me, yeah, nigga, justtrauma bonding with the music
and shit.
You know what I mean?
It's just spitting shit that Iprobably should have talked to
somebody about but didn't knowhow to manage that shit.
(00:21):
That resonates for me, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm big bloomin'.
I'm heavy structure.
I'm hung low.
If I pull my shit out, thiswhole room get dark.
I'ma talk my shit.
Fat finger, let me talk my shit.
Damn right, I'm gonna talk myshit.
(00:46):
Ie, in this bitch love neverresting on my nose the
definition of a chord, when theystop questioning your morals
for me specifically, this is avery, very, very dope talk your
shit.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This is like like a highlight for me, because this
man to the left of me is alegend and when you think of
somebody that can spit thesefucking syllables and the lyrics
that he comes up with and Iremember being in the DIY cypher
(01:24):
and there's a video on YouTube,if you see it, I'm staring at
him rap and it's in disbelief,like, and every dude in the room
is looking at him in disbelief,like how the fuck is he coming
up with this shit?
Like, and I can saywholeheartedly with every rapper
that I know, we all look at youwith respect, we all look at
you and uh, and just think, justthink, damn, that's what we
(01:44):
want to be like, um, and thatcan go from it to any level of
this shit like, you are a legendand um, every time I get the
opportunity to hear you spit,I'm just like this is fucking
crazy.
Even last night, when I was uhcoming up with the, the
questions, I was like dirty buthave to be here in person.
This is crazy.
Ladies and gentlemen, give awholehearted welcome to a legend
(02:11):
, not just the IE legend, but alegend period we give to y'all
Dirty Bertie.
Yay, thank you for that man.
It comes from the bottom of myheart.
You're making a cry up here.
I mean it from the bottom of myheart.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You look like an old nigga.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
cry up here, homie I mean it from the bottom of my
heart.
Thank you, bro.
If you know what you mean to us, bro, you're dope.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate the hell out ofthat.
So how are you doing thismorning, man?
I'm doing better than some,worse than a few, but blessed
overall.
I feel that.
I feel that.
I feel that so I guess we'llget into the shenanigans of
(02:46):
shenanigans.
Yes, sir, when did you firstknow that you wanted to rap?
When did I first know I wantedto rap?
So I used to get in trouble alot, so I'd be on punishment a
lot when I was a little niggaand I always was a big music guy
, always, always, always.
So I didn't really get toys forbirthdays and christmases.
(03:08):
I got albums and tapes and soI've been like, yeah, like since
like three, four years old,I've been like you know, yeah,
so it's really really in me,like I could easily been a dj.
I'll show you all my collection, my record collection, tape
collection, cd.
I got terabytes and terabytesof music.
I'm truly obsessed with thisright.
So I've always been very goodat English and so, consequently,
(03:29):
I used to write, you know,poems and poetry and all this
shit a lot, and I got my firstbeat machine when I was 12.
So I started making beats and Iwould make a beat every day
before I went to school, before,you know, junior high school,
every day.
And um, one day I wrote, uh,how I started rapping.
I was probably like 14, 13, 14,and lotty dotty was out by
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slick rick and and, uh, dougie,and at school somebody was doing
with you know, we get pair upand I'll be the beatbox and the
nigga spit the rap.
Well, because I'm such a musicperson, I'm a lyric person.
So the nigga was up therefucking the lyrics up, and so
one thing you're not supposed todo.
(04:13):
Now I know this as a man right,right, you correct the homie to
the side, you don't correct himin front of women and shit like
that.
You feel me.
But shit, ninth grade careernigga.
I was like, hey, nigga, youfucking the words up.
So I embarrassed the nigga.
So the nigga say well, you spithim.
Well, me, being who I am, I spitthat shit all the way through.
The way people reacted to mespitting that shit made me feel
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like it was my shit.
So I went home and I wrote arap to one of my beats that I
would make each morning and Icalled my homegirl Renee up and
I spit it for her and she waslike going crazy and she called
the homegirl sissy up on threeway.
I was on three ways, papa, andI spit it for sissy, I spit it
for sissy, I spit it for sissyand next thing you know it's a
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trail of motherfuckers on thephone.
I'm spitting this same stupidrap over and over and everybody
was just acting like it was thebest fucking thing.
So from there I just startedright rapping, I started writing
excuse me, every fucking day,and probably like 13, 14 years
old yeah, that's that's crazy,that's, that's a viral moment
yeah, seriously right.
(05:20):
When did you know?
And then it clicked that youwere this, that dope with the
pen, lyrically, like.
When it just clicked, like I'm,I'm, I'm nice, uh, I don't know
that I ever felt like that,like that.
I always felt like, because Ilove comedy and I love music and
(05:41):
lyricism, I used to try to makemyself laugh or say shit that
if I heard somebody else say itI would think it was dope.
Yeah, you feel me.
But I never was like, oh, I'mthis, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, I've never felt like thatto this day.
Damn, that's good, yeah.
So what advice would you give tothe upcoming artists that wish
(06:03):
they can do the same things thatyou do?
Or just trying to get on thepath?
So, sidebar, I wouldn't tellsomebody to do what I did
because I didn't do it.
Right, for what the gift Godgave me, I didn't do what I was
supposed to do.
I put a toe in and a toe out,and that's why you know who I am
(06:23):
.
You ain't even supposed to knowme personally if I would have
did what I was supposed to do,gotcha.
So I would tell somebody whothinks they want to do it to
take themselves very, veryserious Right To take themselves
very, very serious.
Do it every day, all day,breathe it, freestyle it.
Want it really, really fuckingbad.
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But then it's a matter of whatyou're doing it for.
Are you doing it so you can getinstant gratification from your
peers because you know you'recomparing them to who you guys
collectively listen to and thinkis great?
Or are you doing it because youwant to do it on a grandstand
in front of the world and showeverybody your version of your
interpretation of your shitRight.
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So first you have to know whatyou're doing it for Right, and
if you're doing it for thelatter, then you have to take it
very fucking serious.
You know what I mean?
Because it requires a degreeand a measure of selfishness
that a lot of people aren'tprepared to.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, to do so.
(07:27):
I make kids early.
You know what I mean.
So when you make kids, early,you know what I'm saying if you
work for a fraction of a fuck,you're gonna do what you're
supposed to do as a parent,right?
So I'm partially working thejob.
I'm'm partially.
You know what I mean doing myshit.
I've had like five, four recorddeals in my life, so we can get
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into all that later, but that'swhat I would tell them.
Take yourself very serious, doit every fucking day.
You know what I mean.
Don't fuck around, be selfish,be serious, but it's going to
require you to do something thatmight compromise your integrity
if you really want to gothrough a certain door and I
wasn't willing to do that.
No disrespect to anybody else,that was, but I wasn't willing
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to go to those parties and meetwith those guys and I wasn't
willing to do that.
I feel that one.
So, as a parent, whatchallenges were brought to you
when trying to complete projectsand passions that you were
trying to follow?
Uh, making sure that my kid'smom didn't feel like it was just
her by herself.
So I was having to make surethat I made sure my kids wasn't
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made to feel like I was made tofeel when I was a little nigga,
you feel me.
I spent a great deal of timefeeling so sorry for him because
it was like, oh you littlehelpless fuck, I got to teach
you how to walk and talk and youknow what I mean, show you what
shit is and show you how tonavigate through life.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And my father didn't do that for me.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You know what I mean.
He was truly like fuck you.
And none of my stepdads, nobodywanted to be my fucking dad,
and so fucking.
I made sure that none of mykids felt like that Dads, that
and so.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I made sure that none of my kids felt like that.
Des, stop See what I mean.
That was.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I mean shut up you right, I might be being a little
too transparent, but that's thetruth.
No, I like that you spokehonesty there.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I do be telling my kids like in my head shut up
they don't know right, they'rejust trying to.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm being honest, I relate to everything you just
said.
I relate to that shit.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I love the shit out of my fucking kids.
I mean they're grown now.
You know what I mean.
All my children ain't children,no more, but I still baby the
fuck out of them.
I still baby the fuck out ofthem.
You know what I mean like forreal sons and all.
So what is the craziest storythat you could share as your
time as an artist?
The craziest story?
(09:55):
Oh shit, I got a lot of goddamnstories, boy.
I mean we done had to almostfight the whole club.
I remember one time I went todamn, I got a couple fucking
stories.
I used to be signed to thisgangster rap label called Mob
Style.
(10:15):
And in 94, 93, cusp of 94, Ifly out to new orleans.
We're gonna do a show at a spotcalled whispers.
I think about being signed togangster niggas.
They're gonna do what the fuckthey want to do.
Right, I'm a b-boy, I'm ahip-hopper, right.
But you know I'm from the jacks, I'm from west side dino, you
know so I'm from the Jets, I'mfrom Westside Dino, you know so
(10:37):
I'm familiar like a motherfuckervery, and I'm not going to
gangbang.
But when it comes to banging myname for my kids, my family, my
friend, I'll bang that andyou'll see what kind of man I am
like that.
But being signed to thesebrothers, these brothers was
with the shit, so I don't knowhow the fuck they got them guns
(10:59):
on that plane.
I don't know how they got themguns on that goddamn plane.
These niggas brought guns andgot to New Orleans and bought
Deuce, deuce, goddamn meat.
You know how they had the 40ounce bottle.
Back in the day in the early90s we had Deuce, deuce, right,
deuce, deuce, right, deuce,deuce, but malt liquor these
motherfuckers snuck in St Ives.
Goddamn me, oe.
(11:23):
You understand me, mickey, youunderstand.
I don't know how they got allthis shit in the club.
Anyway, they was in thereselling Zimas and shit.
They wasn't even selling maltliquor in the goddamn club.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Zimas Right, the goddamn club Zimas Right, I
ain't heard that either man them, son of a bitches, found out.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
We had that shit up in there, man.
They asked them to put it awayonce, they asked them twice,
they asked them more than Beansand Rye Took us all in the
motherfucking corner and shit,and we fought.
They kicked us out physically,beat our asses out that goddamn
club.
Oh wow, Nigga, I didn't bringnone Right, but I'm with these
niggas and if I'm with you, I'mwith you, goddamn it fuck it.
(11:59):
They beat your ass.
They got to beat mine and theydid.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
They beat our ass all the way up that goddamn fucking
club.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah yeah, that was one of the craziest.
Same shit happened in Hawaii,but we almost had to fight the
whole club.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, and you're on an island stuck.
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Right and they was brawling us to death.
Hey brah.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I said God damn.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Motherfuck that little Hawaiian girl liked it.
I said what I said thatmotherfucker was ready to risk
it all over that little Hawaiiangirl.
You said Mickey's Rami, my dad.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
My dad used to drink Mickey's like a motherfucker.
Mickey's Rami, my dad.
My dad used to drink Mickey'slike a motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, mickey's Big Mouth, or that 40?
, 40.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Oh yeah, and he was cool with the guy at the corner
store so every time I would beover there he'd be like man, go
down there and give him this,he'd go and he'd come right back
Like nigga where am I going toget your 40?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Straight to it service back there.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That nigga used to drink Mickey's and Hennessy Like
a motherfucker.
I don't even want to go throughthe range of drinks niggas have
been drinking over the years.
Shit Ridiculous.
Those were my days.
Mickey's, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And the Green Bottle.
Yeah, the Green Bottle.
We started with the Big.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Bounce the little ones, the Biggie Big Bounce.
We found out they had the 40s.
Good, got them up, so you saidyou were signed to four
different labels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that deal Ijust mentioned being signed to
the gangster rap label, mobStyle Records.
That was my very first recorddeal.
Shout out to OG Fresh.
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Rest in Peace, Gangsta Bub.
You know what I mean.
Brothers from Rubidoux they hada label and they had a group.
They had a group called NewBreed of Hustlers and them
brothers was they was gettingsome, they was putting up some
big numbers and, like Warner anddifferent motherfuckers was
knocking at them niggas door.
They didn't ever sign with themand shit.
They wanted to stay independentbut some shit ended up
(13:53):
happening and you know it'shistory and you know it's
history.
But, oh, shout out to silkyrest in peace.
To baby cass little cast yep.
And then from there, um, mycousin and I got a record deal
with, uh, jimmy jam and terrylewis.
We were on perspective records.
That was.
That was dope, just to be ableto say it.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
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Project got shelved because wewas on there talking about
burning hell and, goddamn me, wewas on there talking crazy to
be 23 and 24 years old.
So it's a funny story aboutthat.
That record ended up gettingshelved and fast forward 2022,
it was myself, sly Boogie and DJKMP, dj KMP is E-40's DJ right
(14:38):
now.
So fast forward to 2022,.
Dj KMP called me like Bird.
It's a German company want toput out the fucking Black Spook
album.
I was like what I said?
Nigga, it ain't bread, youunderstand.
They just put the shit out.
Nigga you understand, can weget a couple dollars?
He was like yeah, what I'msaying, they was going to put
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the shit out.
They was like you know what I'msaying, can we get a couple
dollars?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He was like yeah, yeah, can we get a couple
dollars, and he was like theygoing to put out albums,
cassettes and CDs.
I was like no shit.
He said 2022?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, 2022.
And they were going to put thecassette.
Yeah, wow, cassettes, cds, yeah, yeah, I got a CD in the car
right now.
Yeah, they put that.
Finally, 28, 30, damn near 30years later, the fucking album
comes out.
I'm listening to thatmotherfucker cringing.
Yeah, yeah, the fuck, youngdummy, I'm on this side of the
(15:34):
kind of shit.
Like praise everybody that thisdidn't come out.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But it's you know.
You saw the growth though.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I did, I did, and it's hip-hop heads, djs that
really love that album.
You know what I mean, but forme it was a terrible time.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It was a different time.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It was a terrible time.
I was already married at thattime with three, four, no five
kids.
You feel me?
Yeah, I already had four by mywife and a child that was out of
state.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You said five kids, maybe you want to get them to go
to work right now.
My publishing was called FiveSeeds.
At that time I got ten now, butat that time Damn.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Then what kids Jesus I?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
got six daughters and four sons Spreading.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
That's a beautiful legacy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
All of them Well off.
Two of my daughters married,two of them got kids.
They married Well, one of themis engaged I digress and two of
the other ones are married andmy youngest one is going to
school for forensics.
I got another baby that's doingwell and another baby that's
doing very well.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
That's what's up.
That's what's up.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All my kids got diplomas jobs, college degrees.
You know what I mean Fivedifferent women.
So that's how serious I was.
I sacrificed my career to makesure I was available for them.
You feel me and present, Makesure they had what I didn't have
the music wasn't more importantthan that to me.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You feel me yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Because all the Dirty Birdie shit is is just me is a
five-year-old black kid thatdidn't get no therapy for the
trauma and shit.
You feel me, nigga, just traumabonding with the music and shit
.
You know what I mean?
It's just spitting shit that Iprobably should have talked to
somebody about but didn't knowhow to manage that shit.
That resonates for me, yeah, soI just spew that shit.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
That's a tough one for me, because then I'm like
well, sometimes maybe it's likefuck it, because it's better to
have the art.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
You know what niggas the hill.
I know it sounds fucked up, butI was like hill.
I know it sounds fucked up.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
But I was like I know it sounds fucked up.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So here's the thing though the art is the is the
healing the healing comesthrough the expression.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I feel like you learned that till later though,
where you was like oh shit, Ididn't realize I was fucked up
nah I.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I knew early on I was fucked up, but you feel me.
But I was fucked up, uh-oh, youfeel me, but I was able to hide
my shit.
I learned to cope very early.
So I was a coper man and Imastered it.
I'm a master at coping, youfeel me.
So I was able to work a job, bea dad you know what I mean.
Go make a beat, write some shit, you feel me.
Go pretend like I like people.
(18:21):
I like being around people Likethis.
Right here is my ideal settingwhen I go do a show.
I like to go do my shit, getthe fuck on.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's all I like to do.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And people.
Some people take it like I'mbeing funny.
No, motherfucker, I don't likelarge groups of people, yeah me
neither.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
People don't know that about me.
Sometimes you just want to hangout with motherfuckers out
there.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, I don't want to mix and mingle, I'm not here to
mix and mingle.
I don't want to hang out Meeither.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
At my age I don't want to hang out Me either.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I want to go where I'm comfortable.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, absolutely, like you know, and I love my
people, don't get me wrong.
I like seeing them partying andshit over there.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now look here.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But I don't want to.
But getting back to yourquestion, so it was new breed.
I was on Mob Style, thenPerspective and then after that
we got offered to deal withJunior Registrant again who was
our A&R on Pers, but Sly and Ididn't take the deal and then
after that, uh, we were going todo our own.
(19:22):
You know, as independent artistprojects or whatever start
going up to the wake-up show,some things happen.
Sly ended up signing with themand me and, like four of my
friends, end up starting a labeland putting a record out with
international distribution, andso you know it is what it is.
(19:43):
And then, after that, I startedmy own shit.
I got my own shit.
Now, that's what's up.
You feel me?
So it's been a journey and Igot a lot of stories in between
that.
Yeah, man, but just to answeryour question, that's it.
That's the whole deal.
What was the low you hadmentally when trying to still
continue with your career?
Oh man, the low, yeah, in termsof like mentally or financially
(20:12):
?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
what do you mean mentally?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
like I guess it ties into the next question like the
lows, as far as mentally tryingto question if you should still
keep doing it.
Did you ever have a time whereyou question if you should still
be doing it or if you cancontinue to do it and trying to
like, I guess, navigate that andstill keep the positive outlook
, like I can still make this acareer, still make this a career
(20:36):
?
So I've fought, probably sincelike 19, with whether I should
still do it Right, over and overand over.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I have that fight every year.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Right, I've had it several times this year Cause
you know the nigga's fuckingtired.
You know what I mean and my fanbase has been so fucking loving
and so loyal and so patientwith tired.
You know what I mean and my fanbase has been so fucking loving
and so loyal and so patientwith me.
You know what I mean.
They allow me to just dropsingles and they complain.
I see them in the commentsNigga, fuck this single.
(21:09):
Where's the fucking album,nigga?
You know?
Yeah, and because hip hop hasgone through so many crazy
different transitions and shitand my preference for hip, I
like traditional hop, you feelme.
I like really dope beats overpretty sounds.
You know what I mean and I liketo do my psychology mixed with
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comedy, sprinkled withpornography shit over that.
You know that's what I likedoing, it's dope Because of my
sense of humor.
thank you, sir, it's dope, verydope, right so.
But you know that vibe and thatsound isn't the present.
You know vibration of choicesonically on the radio, and you
know what I mean.
There's a collective of us thatstill vibe like that and I
(21:54):
guess that's who I do it for.
You know what I mean, butsometimes motherfuckers feel
like these niggas ain't worriedabout what I'm talking about.
No more, I was going to saymost of that radio shit is trash
to me.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I mean, it is, it's pushing a terrible agenda.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
When I was coming up, man, you had your songs that
made you want to have agirlfriend and treat her good.
You know what I mean.
The rap songs wasn't about.
They wasn't callingmotherfuckers out there.
You might have one or two, andthey was the key ones because
they were special.
It was only one or two of them.
You know what I mean.
And everybody else was justrapping regular.
You know Regular being I'm abetter MC than you.
(22:31):
Or you got to love yourself oryou know it's a party.
You know what I mean.
That's what motherfuckers wastalking about when I was coming
up.
So and you know the people thatare part of the agenda to do to
take us to the second slavery.
You know what I mean.
They want to because it's veryinfluential put things in a
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young, impressionable person'shead that might make them make a
poor choice and end upcompromising their life or their
freedom.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, and it's all a financialthing.
I feel that you know what I'msaying.
So pop pills and kill yeah yeah, yeah.
And you know, sadly enough, someof it comes under some really
nice drums and some of it isjust some fuckery.
(23:14):
That it's fun to say, but youhave to be able to separate that
and then go okay, that's justthat song.
We had fun singing it, butthat's not how.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I'm going to engage going forth in my life.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
mean In my pursuit of fucking financial freedom.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I know a lot of broke niggas that get pussy.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, I was one of them.
Shit, I got 10 kids, but fivewomen I fuck more than 10 times.
Do that shit, call me slipper.
You know what I mean.
Got me, got me.
So what?
Oh my god, what's one talent orskill that people may not know
(23:56):
you have?
Um, uh.
What's one talent or skill thatpeople may not know you have?
Um, uh, I, um, I probablyshould have been a counselor or
a therapist.
There you go.
I could have been a therapist,for whatever reason.
(24:16):
I have a very good gift ofdiscernment and I give really
good advice, and people don'tknow that unless you know me,
and I'm a natural barber too.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I do my own grooming.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I'm just saying he's here that doesn't mean I'm gonna
cut your beard he always tryingto make connections and shit.
I'm always trying to makeconnections.
I ain't bad at you.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I feel like I can relate to that.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I feel like I give good advice, but I can't take
more of the advice.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Sometimes I feel like that too.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I struggle with my own shit, but I can help people
with theirs.
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You'd probably still be a good therapist, because the
first thing I learned in schoolwas that therapists need a
therapist.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And you know what I do, that's true.
I got one of those.
I like to shave in the showerwhen I'm needed a therapist.
You know what I do.
I like to shave in the showerwhen I'm taking a shower.
I put one of those bathroommirrors in that motherfucker man
.
I cuss myself out every fuckingfive times a week in that
fucking mirror.
Yeah, like nigga.
What the fuck man?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I do that shit sometimes You're supposed to.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I cuss myself because I'm my own daddy, like nigga.
What the fuck man?
I do that shit sometimes.
You're supposed to for real.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I cuss myself cause I'm my own daddy nigga, shit
there was a couple times where Iwas like man, you fucking up,
get your shit together, thatpart, that's how you gotta do
yourself, man.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's how you gotta do yourself, excuse me, yeah,
yeah he said, yeah, in theshower.
In the shower you be angry inthe shower hey, man, that's the
start of the day.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
That's my pep talk.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I mean.
Angry is a strong word, angry,but you know what I mean.
Unless I made a poor choice andI'm mad about my.
You know what I mean, unless Imade a poor choice and I'm mad
about myself.
You know what I mean Likebrother, you know better.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Why'd you do that?
You can't tell me that you andeveryone in the mirror have been
disappointed at yourself, likewhen you fucking, no, in the
mirror, but like in the shower.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm usually like I mean because, listen, I try to
be like trying to be in shittype of person that talks to
people about your shit, right,and you just kind of talk to
yourself about it.
Sometimes you need a face tolook at to say that shit to at
least me so when I'm in thatmotherfucker.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Like I said, I cuss myself out sometimes I feel it,
you feel me and it helps me out,you know.
I don't cuss at other people, Icuss at myself in the car.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
No, I cuss at other people too.
God, I hate people Driving.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh.
All day, you know my-.
Why would you do that?
That's my favorite shit.
Why would you do that?
Dumb as a box of fucking rocks,that's my favorite shit.
Scooch your ass over.
So you did all that?
Just to get in front of me andgo slow.
(27:07):
I say that shit all the time,that just to get in front of me
and go slow.
I hate everything about you.
Don't even know this person.
Get by them and they old.
I'll be like oh.
I'm sorry baby, Just move dang.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, they built the roads.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Fucking lying.
Every time I get cut off, theguy's like, look at, you played
yourself All that.
For what Played yourself?
I?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
love that.
So what is your creativeprocess when writing and
creating verses or songs?
My creative process, yeah,presently it's me and my phone.
Presently I'll keep it real.
Growing up.
I still have every notepad I'veever written a rhyme on.
(27:52):
I got them front and back page.
You know what I mean?
In my music room at the crib Ijust got a ridiculous amount of
fucking notebooks and I used toalways just write to a beat.
I'd have to have a beat first.
Sometimes I'll come up with ahook in my mind and then I'll
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write some shit and figure Ihave to find a beat for it, you
know so sometimes it's that way,but mostly these days I'll have
a beat or we'll make up one onthe spot.
It depends on what project I'mworking on, right?
So, like I said, I love music.
I've always sang and collectedrecords and all that shit.
So I have a project with aproducer Fingers and it's under
(28:37):
the name Dirty Hathaway and I'mjust singing on that shit.
That's dope.
And I'm rapping too, but not inthe Dirty Birdie voice.
You know, that's a wholedifferent guy.
And then I have the dirtybirdie stuff and that stuff is
either is mostly stank, sendingme something or me going through
(28:59):
my emails from a beat I had himsend me several years ago and
it still sounds relevant to me.
So, or it still makes me feel acertain kind of way, so I'll
shout up the doctor stank yeah,shout out to stank.
My brother, yes.
And funk john yeah, shout outto dre.
So what projects do you have inthe works?
(29:19):
Well, you just mentioned one.
Uh, what future projects thatyou have in the works that you
want to do future?
Yeah, uh, I'll probably goahead and release the digital
cardiac album, the dirty birdiedigital cardiac album.
I'm gonna go ahead and releaseit.
I got probably like four orfive singles out right now on
(29:42):
spotify, apple, whatever thehell.
Um, so I'm gonna do that.
And then fingers, and I havebeen slowly releasing singles
off of the dirty hathawayproject, so I'm gonna do that.
And then fingers and I havebeen slowly releasing singles
off of the dirty Hathawayproject, so I'm gonna finish
that.
I'm gonna do some videos andsome reels for both of those
things.
My son and I.
My son all my sons is spitters.
Um, my youngest baby is amonster.
(30:02):
My son shout out to my son,kahari.
He just turned 26.
He's a monster.
Shout out to my son, lil Kareem.
He's a freestyle fanatic, sohave they all challenged you?
I don't think that they woulddo that because they grew up
(30:25):
like literally sitting at mydesk and going through my
library Like they know how muchshit I have.
They wouldn't do that For fun,maybe Just to fuck with me.
What would Pop say?
But they haven't done that.
But my youngest?
He spits, like me, the mostKahari.
(30:48):
He got his own style and heraps in a low tone and he's dope
as fuck.
He's dope as fuck.
I ain't just saying that he'sdope as fuck.
Find no good hip hop.
You make good hip hop.
I appreciate it.
He's dope as fuck, and then andmy baby, though he is a bar god.
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like how you suddenly justsaid that they can't see you.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, hey man.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That confidence is.
So listen, that would take themtoo long to catch up, you know
what I mean yeah.
I've done every style andthey've heard a shit ton of them
, but I still got the vault inthere in that closet with
notebooks full of shit that Iain't never even spit to nobody,
that's so not once, like everytime every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know you gotta try to like hit a jump shot on
pops once in a while.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I'm gonna tell you right now, at this age, man, go
on if you.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm going to tell you right now, at this age man, go
on.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
If you can get one off, god bless you.
Little nigga, fuck with that,because you ain't made me upset.
You're my baby.
I'm the reason why you can dowhat you do.
I love it.
That's dope.
That is very dope so.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Des you ready?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You sure?
No, no, she ain't ready.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I don't have a choice but to be ready.
First of all, I am high as hellover here.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I've been hungry for 15 minutes.
I'm sorry, des.
No, you're fine fucking secondhand smoke is the truth ain't it
god dang.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I've been trying to hold it together for like 15
minutes god damn, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
So 15 good, god dang, I've been trying to hold it
together for like 15 minutes.
God damn, that's funny.
So 15 good ones.
Here we go.
Let's go Dirty Birdie.
What is your top five?
Dead or alive MCs, all right.
So I'm going to tell you likethis All right, I've been
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listening to hip-hop since 79.
All right, you can't ask anigga that's been listening to
this shit for this long fivefunky ass people.
I don't have to be.
There's been decades anddecades of mcs, yeah, and there
have been motherfuckers thatwere the top in their decade.
So it's hard for me to gooverall.
This is right.
So what I'll tell you is thisfor what has influenced me as a
(33:19):
rapper, or as an MC, if you will, and made me want to do it?
Because there's been a lot ofgroups that I vibe to, like
Tribe Called Quest.
I vibe to them, but as an emceeI don't listen to them for
inspiration, lyrically for me.
You know what I mean.
I like them as rappers and theyare dope.
(33:42):
I would never take nothing fromthem.
I would never diss them or saythey were whack.
They're not whack, but theydon't motivate somebody like me
to write something keeping itlive.
No disrespect, you know whatI'm saying.
So they wouldn't be in my topfive MCs.
You know what I'm saying.
(34:03):
If we're talking about MCs thatinspired and influenced me, mine
starts from when I firststarted wanting to fuck with
this shit.
But first and foremost, likeDMX told my cousin Sly, he said
nigga, who's the nigga out there, out here?
(34:23):
Sly got the name in different.
He stopped that nigga and saidthen you're supposed to say you,
you first, the fuck, right,right.
So me, nigga, I'm, I'm mynumber, motherfucking one.
But for who influenced me whenI was a little nigga, off the
(34:46):
rip, shout out to stank.
I'm going to tell you who Ilearned what from who.
From Melly Mel.
I learned breath control as anMC.
I didn't know nothing aboutpunching in and shit like that.
It didn't sound like he waspunching.
(35:06):
I don't know, maybe they were,but for me he was wrapping that
shit all the way through and Icouldn't hear when he was taking
a breath.
It's breath control.
So my first guy is gonna bemelty mel, for me because of
breath control.
Ll cool j is who made me wantto rap, though.
I learned vocabulary and stagepresence from ll cool j.
(35:32):
Slick rick is the reason why Iwent home and wrote the rap that
day, because I repeated hisshit when I was in the ninth
grade.
I like slick rick because ofhis cleverness, his wittiness,
his style and his charisma.
(35:52):
Now, as somebody being here in86, I'm writing and all these
east coast niggas is the shit.
Who was the shit for me at thattime in conjunction with those
guys?
But was a West Coast nigga wasIce Cube.
Ice Cube is my nigga, butbefore Cube we didn't have a
(36:16):
whole lot of motherfuckers, thatwas bar niggas.
It was King T, king T, believeme.
So King T, ice Cube.
Then it's Rakim, then it's KRS,then it's Koo G Rap, then it's
Big Daddy Kane and Grand Poobah,then Pharoah Monch, then Tretch
(36:39):
, then Nas, then Redman, killer,priest, Rod Digger, eminem and
Kendrick.
Eminem and Kendrick.
Now it don't mean that I don'tlove a whole bunch of other
motherfuckers for their shit,right, because I love some of
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everybody Like real talkMotherfuckers and niggas be like
.
I like him for what he does.
That nigga's good at doing him.
I fucks with that nigga's shitBecause I'm not comparing him to
somebody else, right?
This ain't no comparison gamefor me, right?
I like you for what you do, notbecause you remind me of Wootie
(37:23):
Woop or you know this nigga rapbetter than you.
Nah, nigga, you dope as fuck.
I like you for it, nigga youdoing you.
Nah, nigga, you dope as fuck.
I like you for it, nigga youdoing you.
Nigga, that shit sound dope tome.
You feel me?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's how I look at it.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
So for me I don't have to be like comparing this
one to that one and all that.
That nigga's dope at what hedoes.
That nigga's dope at what hedoes.
Do I have more songs thatresonate with me by this nigga
than this nigga because of thebeat selections, and maybe he's
know how to write verses orhooks better, yeah, but that
don't mean this nigga ain't dopeas fuck too.
I fucks with both of theseniggas.
(37:57):
That's how I look at it.
I fuck with that.
So I don't have a really a topfive like that.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Sorry, you cool with that yeah, that was a great list
.
I don't have any complaints.
Okay, sure, I'm positive.
What are you holding in?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I'm not holding anything in well, you can't, I
don't know so what are your uhsocials so they can get at you?
I am Dirty Birdie on Insta,dirty Birdie 909 on TikTok,
(38:34):
dirty Birdie 909, I want to say,on Twitter.
I don't really be on Twitter.
I mostly engage on Insta andTikTok and also for the dinosaur
, dinosaur vibe.
I fuck with Facebook, familyand you know niggas.
I grew up with and shit.
(38:55):
I like seeing that, but that'sunder my government, which is
Kareem Jermaine, so I'm an oldman now cause.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I'm a I'm a Facebook nigga.
Yeah, I'm an old Facebook,nigga too.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I fuck with it.
So I want to say thank youagain for being a part of this
today.
This has like been a it's likemy favorite episode, bar none
for sure, man.
Thank you for having me.
Man, I learned a lot.
I didn't get a contact highlike Des, but I did get a high
from I'm over here high as akite.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
It's too late, baby.
I'm over here high as a kite.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
But I do the game.
You dropped the charisma.
The fact that you said you fuckwith my music just made me
fucking.
It just made my day.
So again.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Did it inspire you?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
You've all been writing the last few days To
release.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I do write all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
The question is are you going to release?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
We'll see you have to .
I just know this man inspires alot of us, specifically me, and
it meant a lot for you to showup here.
Can I ask?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
a question real quick Is it possible to get a McF?
Can I ask a question real quickIs it possible to get a McFly
Dirty Birdie song together?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Oh, I would love that .
Can we make that happen?
Oh, I would love that.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Shoot me the beat.
My only stipulation is whateverit is, we gotta shoot a video
for it.
Oh, I love that.
I want that.
As long as we shoot a video forit, we can do it.
Oh, I love that, I'm with that.
As long as we shoot a video forit, we can do it, alright, okay
.
That is dope, because everythingI do going forward in my life
and I learn I do it like I'mdoing it for TV.
I take everything serious.
(40:40):
I don't just do it just to doit.
So if we gonna do it, let's doit, Okay, you?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
feel me yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I fucks with you.
It's nothing.
It's nothing.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I just made my fucking week year, um, but again
I want to thank you for beinghere, uh, thank you.
You're always welcome back,always welcome and it's been a
vibe and uh, show your love,support, support, like,
subscribe, share and comment.
All that shit To next time.
We love you.
Peace Yo, and real quick myshirts.
(41:16):
Yo hit me about the shirt.
You mind letting them see theback?
Oh yeah, send them to the back,shit, I don't want to fuck them
all.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
My bad yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I like it.
That's so cute.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That dirty birdie right there.
You feel me Get at me.
I got all sizes.
You feel me $25.
Holler at a real one.
I got hats too.
Tweet, tweet, peace, peace,peace.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
This has been another episode of the Heavyweight
Podcast Talk your shit, of theHeavyweight Podcast Talk your
shit.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
One thing about me, baby, I'm showing up every week
to see who coming to talk theirshit.
Y'all better show up with me.
See you there, bye.
you feel me, yeah, because all the dirty birdie
shit is is just me is a, afive-year-old black kid that
didn't didn't get no therapy forthe trauma and shit.
You feel me, yeah, nigga, justtrauma bonding with the music
and shit.
You know what I mean?
It's just spitting shit that Iprobably should have talked to
somebody about but didn't knowhow to manage that shit.
(00:21):
That resonates for me, yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm big bloomin'.
I'm heavy structure.
I'm hung low.
If I pull my shit out, thiswhole room get dark.
I'ma talk my shit.
Fat finger, let me talk my shit.
Damn right, I'm gonna talk myshit.
(00:46):
Ie, in this bitch love neverresting on my nose the
definition of a chord, when theystop questioning your morals
for me specifically, this is avery, very, very dope talk your
shit.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
This is like like a highlight for me, because this
man to the left of me is alegend and when you think of
somebody that can spit thesefucking syllables and the lyrics
that he comes up with and Iremember being in the DIY cypher
(01:24):
and there's a video on YouTube,if you see it, I'm staring at
him rap and it's in disbelief,like, and every dude in the room
is looking at him in disbelief,like how the fuck is he coming
up with this shit?
Like, and I can saywholeheartedly with every rapper
that I know, we all look at youwith respect, we all look at
you and uh, and just think, justthink, damn, that's what we
(01:44):
want to be like, um, and thatcan go from it to any level of
this shit like, you are a legendand um, every time I get the
opportunity to hear you spit,I'm just like this is fucking
crazy.
Even last night, when I was uhcoming up with the, the
questions, I was like dirty buthave to be here in person.
This is crazy.
Ladies and gentlemen, give awholehearted welcome to a legend
(02:11):
, not just the IE legend, but alegend period we give to y'all
Dirty Bertie.
Yay, thank you for that man.
It comes from the bottom of myheart.
You're making a cry up here.
I mean it from the bottom of myheart.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
You look like an old nigga.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
cry up here, homie I mean it from the bottom of my
heart.
Thank you, bro.
If you know what you mean to us, bro, you're dope.
Thank you, man.
I appreciate the hell out ofthat.
So how are you doing thismorning, man?
I'm doing better than some,worse than a few, but blessed
overall.
I feel that.
I feel that.
I feel that so I guess we'llget into the shenanigans of
(02:46):
shenanigans.
Yes, sir, when did you firstknow that you wanted to rap?
When did I first know I wantedto rap?
So I used to get in trouble alot, so I'd be on punishment a
lot when I was a little niggaand I always was a big music guy
, always, always, always.
So I didn't really get toys forbirthdays and christmases.
(03:08):
I got albums and tapes and soI've been like, yeah, like since
like three, four years old,I've been like you know, yeah,
so it's really really in me,like I could easily been a dj.
I'll show you all my collection, my record collection, tape
collection, cd.
I got terabytes and terabytesof music.
I'm truly obsessed with thisright.
So I've always been very goodat English and so, consequently,
(03:29):
I used to write, you know,poems and poetry and all this
shit a lot, and I got my firstbeat machine when I was 12.
So I started making beats and Iwould make a beat every day
before I went to school, before,you know, junior high school,
every day.
And um, one day I wrote, uh,how I started rapping.
I was probably like 14, 13, 14,and lotty dotty was out by
(03:53):
slick rick and and, uh, dougie,and at school somebody was doing
with you know, we get pair upand I'll be the beatbox and the
nigga spit the rap.
Well, because I'm such a musicperson, I'm a lyric person.
So the nigga was up therefucking the lyrics up, and so
one thing you're not supposed todo.
(04:13):
Now I know this as a man right,right, you correct the homie to
the side, you don't correct himin front of women and shit like
that.
You feel me.
But shit, ninth grade careernigga.
I was like, hey, nigga, youfucking the words up.
So I embarrassed the nigga.
So the nigga say well, you spithim.
Well, me, being who I am, I spitthat shit all the way through.
The way people reacted to mespitting that shit made me feel
(04:37):
like it was my shit.
So I went home and I wrote arap to one of my beats that I
would make each morning and Icalled my homegirl Renee up and
I spit it for her and she waslike going crazy and she called
the homegirl sissy up on threeway.
I was on three ways, papa, andI spit it for sissy, I spit it
for sissy, I spit it for sissyand next thing you know it's a
(04:57):
trail of motherfuckers on thephone.
I'm spitting this same stupidrap over and over and everybody
was just acting like it was thebest fucking thing.
So from there I just startedright rapping, I started writing
excuse me, every fucking day,and probably like 13, 14 years
old yeah, that's that's crazy,that's, that's a viral moment
yeah, seriously right.
(05:20):
When did you know?
And then it clicked that youwere this, that dope with the
pen, lyrically, like.
When it just clicked, like I'm,I'm, I'm nice, uh, I don't know
that I ever felt like that,like that.
I always felt like, because Ilove comedy and I love music and
(05:41):
lyricism, I used to try to makemyself laugh or say shit that
if I heard somebody else say itI would think it was dope.
Yeah, you feel me.
But I never was like, oh, I'mthis, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, I've never felt like thatto this day.
Damn, that's good, yeah.
So what advice would you give tothe upcoming artists that wish
(06:03):
they can do the same things thatyou do?
Or just trying to get on thepath?
So, sidebar, I wouldn't tellsomebody to do what I did
because I didn't do it.
Right, for what the gift Godgave me, I didn't do what I was
supposed to do.
I put a toe in and a toe out,and that's why you know who I am
(06:23):
.
You ain't even supposed to knowme personally if I would have
did what I was supposed to do,gotcha.
So I would tell somebody whothinks they want to do it to
take themselves very, veryserious Right To take themselves
very, very serious.
Do it every day, all day,breathe it, freestyle it.
Want it really, really fuckingbad.
(06:44):
But then it's a matter of whatyou're doing it for.
Are you doing it so you can getinstant gratification from your
peers because you know you'recomparing them to who you guys
collectively listen to and thinkis great?
Or are you doing it because youwant to do it on a grandstand
in front of the world and showeverybody your version of your
interpretation of your shitRight.
(07:06):
So first you have to know whatyou're doing it for Right, and
if you're doing it for thelatter, then you have to take it
very fucking serious.
You know what I mean?
Because it requires a degreeand a measure of selfishness
that a lot of people aren'tprepared to.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, to do so.
(07:27):
I make kids early.
You know what I mean.
So when you make kids, early,you know what I'm saying if you
work for a fraction of a fuck,you're gonna do what you're
supposed to do as a parent,right?
So I'm partially working thejob.
I'm'm partially.
You know what I mean doing myshit.
I've had like five, four recorddeals in my life, so we can get
(07:49):
into all that later, but that'swhat I would tell them.
Take yourself very serious, doit every fucking day.
You know what I mean.
Don't fuck around, be selfish,be serious, but it's going to
require you to do something thatmight compromise your integrity
if you really want to gothrough a certain door and I
wasn't willing to do that.
No disrespect to anybody else,that was, but I wasn't willing
(08:11):
to go to those parties and meetwith those guys and I wasn't
willing to do that.
I feel that one.
So, as a parent, whatchallenges were brought to you
when trying to complete projectsand passions that you were
trying to follow?
Uh, making sure that my kid'smom didn't feel like it was just
her by herself.
So I was having to make surethat I made sure my kids wasn't
(08:35):
made to feel like I was made tofeel when I was a little nigga,
you feel me.
I spent a great deal of timefeeling so sorry for him because
it was like, oh you littlehelpless fuck, I got to teach
you how to walk and talk and youknow what I mean, show you what
shit is and show you how tonavigate through life.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And my father didn't do that for me.
Speaker 1 (08:54):
You know what I mean.
He was truly like fuck you.
And none of my stepdads, nobodywanted to be my fucking dad,
and so fucking.
I made sure that none of mykids felt like that Dads, that
and so.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I made sure that none of my kids felt like that.
Des, stop See what I mean.
That was.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I mean shut up you right, I might be being a little
too transparent, but that's thetruth.
No, I like that you spokehonesty there.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I do be telling my kids like in my head shut up
they don't know right, they'rejust trying to.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (09:30):
I'm being honest, I relate to everything you just
said.
I relate to that shit.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
I love the shit out of my fucking kids.
I mean they're grown now.
You know what I mean.
All my children ain't children,no more, but I still baby the
fuck out of them.
I still baby the fuck out ofthem.
You know what I mean like forreal sons and all.
So what is the craziest storythat you could share as your
time as an artist?
The craziest story?
(09:55):
Oh shit, I got a lot of goddamnstories, boy.
I mean we done had to almostfight the whole club.
I remember one time I went todamn, I got a couple fucking
stories.
I used to be signed to thisgangster rap label called Mob
Style.
(10:15):
And in 94, 93, cusp of 94, Ifly out to new orleans.
We're gonna do a show at a spotcalled whispers.
I think about being signed togangster niggas.
They're gonna do what the fuckthey want to do.
Right, I'm a b-boy, I'm ahip-hopper, right.
But you know I'm from the jacks, I'm from west side dino, you
know so I'm from the Jets, I'mfrom Westside Dino, you know so
(10:37):
I'm familiar like a motherfuckervery, and I'm not going to
gangbang.
But when it comes to banging myname for my kids, my family, my
friend, I'll bang that andyou'll see what kind of man I am
like that.
But being signed to thesebrothers, these brothers was
with the shit, so I don't knowhow the fuck they got them guns
(10:59):
on that plane.
I don't know how they got themguns on that goddamn plane.
These niggas brought guns andgot to New Orleans and bought
Deuce, deuce, goddamn meat.
You know how they had the 40ounce bottle.
Back in the day in the early90s we had Deuce, deuce, right,
deuce, deuce, right, deuce,deuce, but malt liquor these
motherfuckers snuck in St Ives.
Goddamn me, oe.
(11:23):
You understand me, mickey, youunderstand.
I don't know how they got allthis shit in the club.
Anyway, they was in thereselling Zimas and shit.
They wasn't even selling maltliquor in the goddamn club.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
Zimas Right, the goddamn club Zimas Right, I
ain't heard that either man them, son of a bitches, found out.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
We had that shit up in there, man.
They asked them to put it awayonce, they asked them twice,
they asked them more than Beansand Rye Took us all in the
motherfucking corner and shit,and we fought.
They kicked us out physically,beat our asses out that goddamn
club.
Oh wow, Nigga, I didn't bringnone Right, but I'm with these
niggas and if I'm with you, I'mwith you, goddamn it fuck it.
(11:59):
They beat your ass.
They got to beat mine and theydid.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
They beat our ass all the way up that goddamn fucking
club.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah yeah, that was one of the craziest.
Same shit happened in Hawaii,but we almost had to fight the
whole club.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Yeah, and you're on an island stuck.
Yeah, right.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Right and they was brawling us to death.
Hey brah.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I said God damn.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Motherfuck that little Hawaiian girl liked it.
I said what I said thatmotherfucker was ready to risk
it all over that little Hawaiiangirl.
You said Mickey's Rami, my dad.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
My dad used to drink Mickey's like a motherfucker.
Mickey's Rami, my dad.
My dad used to drink Mickey'slike a motherfucker.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, mickey's Big Mouth, or that 40?
, 40.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Oh yeah, and he was cool with the guy at the corner
store so every time I would beover there he'd be like man, go
down there and give him this,he'd go and he'd come right back
Like nigga where am I going toget your 40?
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Straight to it service back there.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
That nigga used to drink Mickey's and Hennessy Like
a motherfucker.
I don't even want to go throughthe range of drinks niggas have
been drinking over the years.
Shit Ridiculous.
Those were my days.
Mickey's, yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
And the Green Bottle.
Yeah, the Green Bottle.
We started with the Big.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Bounce the little ones, the Biggie Big Bounce.
We found out they had the 40s.
Good, got them up, so you saidyou were signed to four
different labels.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that deal Ijust mentioned being signed to
the gangster rap label, mobStyle Records.
That was my very first recorddeal.
Shout out to OG Fresh.
(13:32):
Rest in Peace, Gangsta Bub.
You know what I mean.
Brothers from Rubidoux they hada label and they had a group.
They had a group called NewBreed of Hustlers and them
brothers was they was gettingsome, they was putting up some
big numbers and, like Warner anddifferent motherfuckers was
knocking at them niggas door.
They didn't ever sign with themand shit.
They wanted to stay independentbut some shit ended up
(13:53):
happening and you know it'shistory and you know it's
history.
But, oh, shout out to silkyrest in peace.
To baby cass little cast yep.
And then from there, um, mycousin and I got a record deal
with, uh, jimmy jam and terrylewis.
We were on perspective records.
That was.
That was dope, just to be ableto say it.
Yeah, you know what I mean.
(14:14):
Project got shelved because wewas on there talking about
burning hell and, goddamn me, wewas on there talking crazy to
be 23 and 24 years old.
So it's a funny story aboutthat.
That record ended up gettingshelved and fast forward 2022,
it was myself, sly Boogie and DJKMP, dj KMP is E-40's DJ right
(14:38):
now.
So fast forward to 2022,.
Dj KMP called me like Bird.
It's a German company want toput out the fucking Black Spook
album.
I was like what I said?
Nigga, it ain't bread, youunderstand.
They just put the shit out.
Nigga you understand, can weget a couple dollars?
He was like yeah, what I'msaying, they was going to put
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the shit out.
They was like you know what I'msaying, can we get a couple
dollars?
Speaker 2 (15:03):
He was like yeah, yeah, can we get a couple
dollars, and he was like theygoing to put out albums,
cassettes and CDs.
I was like no shit.
He said 2022?
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Yeah, 2022.
And they were going to put thecassette.
Yeah, wow, cassettes, cds, yeah, yeah, I got a CD in the car
right now.
Yeah, they put that.
Finally, 28, 30, damn near 30years later, the fucking album
comes out.
I'm listening to thatmotherfucker cringing.
Yeah, yeah, the fuck, youngdummy, I'm on this side of the
(15:34):
kind of shit.
Like praise everybody that thisdidn't come out.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
But it's you know.
You saw the growth though.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
I did, I did, and it's hip-hop heads, djs that
really love that album.
You know what I mean, but forme it was a terrible time.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
It was a different time.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
It was a terrible time.
I was already married at thattime with three, four, no five
kids.
You feel me?
Yeah, I already had four by mywife and a child that was out of
state.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You said five kids, maybe you want to get them to go
to work right now.
My publishing was called FiveSeeds.
At that time I got ten now, butat that time Damn.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Then what kids Jesus I?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
got six daughters and four sons Spreading.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
That's a beautiful legacy.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
All of them Well off.
Two of my daughters married,two of them got kids.
They married Well, one of themis engaged I digress and two of
the other ones are married andmy youngest one is going to
school for forensics.
I got another baby that's doingwell and another baby that's
doing very well.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
That's what's up.
That's what's up.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
All my kids got diplomas jobs, college degrees.
You know what I mean Fivedifferent women.
So that's how serious I was.
I sacrificed my career to makesure I was available for them.
You feel me and present, Makesure they had what I didn't have
the music wasn't more importantthan that to me.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You feel me yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
Because all the Dirty Birdie shit is is just me is a
five-year-old black kid thatdidn't get no therapy for the
trauma and shit.
You feel me, nigga, just traumabonding with the music and shit
.
You know what I mean?
It's just spitting shit that Iprobably should have talked to
somebody about but didn't knowhow to manage that shit.
That resonates for me, yeah, soI just spew that shit.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
That's a tough one for me, because then I'm like
well, sometimes maybe it's likefuck it, because it's better to
have the art.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
You know what niggas the hill.
I know it sounds fucked up, butI was like hill.
I know it sounds fucked up.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
But I was like I know it sounds fucked up.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So here's the thing though the art is the is the
healing the healing comesthrough the expression.
Speaker 2 (17:48):
I feel like you learned that till later though,
where you was like oh shit, Ididn't realize I was fucked up
nah I.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
I knew early on I was fucked up, but you feel me.
But I was fucked up, uh-oh, youfeel me, but I was able to hide
my shit.
I learned to cope very early.
So I was a coper man and Imastered it.
I'm a master at coping, youfeel me.
So I was able to work a job, bea dad you know what I mean.
Go make a beat, write some shit, you feel me.
Go pretend like I like people.
(18:21):
I like being around people Likethis.
Right here is my ideal settingwhen I go do a show.
I like to go do my shit, getthe fuck on.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
That's all I like to do.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
And people.
Some people take it like I'mbeing funny.
No, motherfucker, I don't likelarge groups of people, yeah me
neither.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
People don't know that about me.
Sometimes you just want to hangout with motherfuckers out
there.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Yeah, I don't want to mix and mingle, I'm not here to
mix and mingle.
I don't want to hang out Meeither.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
At my age I don't want to hang out Me either.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
I want to go where I'm comfortable.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Yeah, absolutely, like you know, and I love my
people, don't get me wrong.
I like seeing them partying andshit over there.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Now look here.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
But I don't want to.
But getting back to yourquestion, so it was new breed.
I was on Mob Style, thenPerspective and then after that
we got offered to deal withJunior Registrant again who was
our A&R on Pers, but Sly and Ididn't take the deal and then
after that, uh, we were going todo our own.
(19:22):
You know, as independent artistprojects or whatever start
going up to the wake-up show,some things happen.
Sly ended up signing with themand me and, like four of my
friends, end up starting a labeland putting a record out with
international distribution, andso you know it is what it is.
(19:43):
And then, after that, I startedmy own shit.
I got my own shit.
Now, that's what's up.
You feel me?
So it's been a journey and Igot a lot of stories in between
that.
Yeah, man, but just to answeryour question, that's it.
That's the whole deal.
What was the low you hadmentally when trying to still
continue with your career?
Oh man, the low, yeah, in termsof like mentally or financially
(20:12):
?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
what do you mean mentally?
Speaker 1 (20:13):
like I guess it ties into the next question like the
lows, as far as mentally tryingto question if you should still
keep doing it.
Did you ever have a time whereyou question if you should still
be doing it or if you cancontinue to do it and trying to
like, I guess, navigate that andstill keep the positive outlook
, like I can still make this acareer, still make this a career
(20:36):
?
So I've fought, probably sincelike 19, with whether I should
still do it Right, over and overand over.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
I have that fight every year.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Right, I've had it several times this year Cause
you know the nigga's fuckingtired.
You know what I mean and my fanbase has been so fucking loving
and so loyal and so patientwith tired.
You know what I mean and my fanbase has been so fucking loving
and so loyal and so patientwith me.
You know what I mean.
They allow me to just dropsingles and they complain.
I see them in the commentsNigga, fuck this single.
(21:09):
Where's the fucking album,nigga?
You know?
Yeah, and because hip hop hasgone through so many crazy
different transitions and shitand my preference for hip, I
like traditional hop, you feelme.
I like really dope beats overpretty sounds.
You know what I mean and I liketo do my psychology mixed with
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comedy, sprinkled withpornography shit over that.
You know that's what I likedoing, it's dope Because of my
sense of humor.
thank you, sir, it's dope, verydope, right so.
But you know that vibe and thatsound isn't the present.
You know vibration of choicesonically on the radio, and you
know what I mean.
There's a collective of us thatstill vibe like that and I
(21:54):
guess that's who I do it for.
You know what I mean, butsometimes motherfuckers feel
like these niggas ain't worriedabout what I'm talking about.
No more, I was going to saymost of that radio shit is trash
to me.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I mean, it is, it's pushing a terrible agenda.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
When I was coming up, man, you had your songs that
made you want to have agirlfriend and treat her good.
You know what I mean.
The rap songs wasn't about.
They wasn't callingmotherfuckers out there.
You might have one or two, andthey was the key ones because
they were special.
It was only one or two of them.
You know what I mean.
And everybody else was justrapping regular.
You know Regular being I'm abetter MC than you.
(22:31):
Or you got to love yourself oryou know it's a party.
You know what I mean.
That's what motherfuckers wastalking about when I was coming
up.
So and you know the people thatare part of the agenda to do to
take us to the second slavery.
You know what I mean.
They want to because it's veryinfluential put things in a
(22:52):
young, impressionable person'shead that might make them make a
poor choice and end upcompromising their life or their
freedom.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, and it's all a financialthing.
I feel that you know what I'msaying.
So pop pills and kill yeah yeah, yeah.
And you know, sadly enough, someof it comes under some really
nice drums and some of it isjust some fuckery.
(23:14):
That it's fun to say, but youhave to be able to separate that
and then go okay, that's justthat song.
We had fun singing it, butthat's not how.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
I'm going to engage going forth in my life.
You know what I?
Speaker 1 (23:27):
mean In my pursuit of fucking financial freedom.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
I know a lot of broke niggas that get pussy.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, I was one of them.
Shit, I got 10 kids, but fivewomen I fuck more than 10 times.
Do that shit, call me slipper.
You know what I mean.
Got me, got me.
So what?
Oh my god, what's one talent orskill that people may not know
(23:56):
you have?
Um, uh.
What's one talent or skill thatpeople may not know you have?
Um, uh, I, um, I probablyshould have been a counselor or
a therapist.
There you go.
I could have been a therapist,for whatever reason.
(24:16):
I have a very good gift ofdiscernment and I give really
good advice, and people don'tknow that unless you know me,
and I'm a natural barber too.
Oh yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
I do my own grooming.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I'm just saying he's here that doesn't mean I'm gonna
cut your beard he always tryingto make connections and shit.
I'm always trying to makeconnections.
I ain't bad at you.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I feel like I can relate to that.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
I feel like I give good advice, but I can't take
more of the advice.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Sometimes I feel like that too.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I struggle with my own shit, but I can help people
with theirs.
It's weird.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
You'd probably still be a good therapist, because the
first thing I learned in schoolwas that therapists need a
therapist.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
And you know what I do, that's true.
I got one of those.
I like to shave in the showerwhen I'm needed a therapist.
You know what I do.
I like to shave in the showerwhen I'm taking a shower.
I put one of those bathroommirrors in that motherfucker man
.
I cuss myself out every fuckingfive times a week in that
fucking mirror.
Yeah, like nigga.
What the fuck man?
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I do that shit sometimes You're supposed to.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I cuss myself because I'm my own daddy, like nigga.
What the fuck man?
I do that shit sometimes.
You're supposed to for real.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I cuss myself cause I'm my own daddy nigga, shit
there was a couple times where Iwas like man, you fucking up,
get your shit together, thatpart, that's how you gotta do
yourself, man.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
That's how you gotta do yourself, excuse me, yeah,
yeah he said, yeah, in theshower.
In the shower you be angry inthe shower hey, man, that's the
start of the day.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
That's my pep talk.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I mean.
Angry is a strong word, angry,but you know what I mean.
Unless I made a poor choice andI'm mad about my.
You know what I mean, unless Imade a poor choice and I'm mad
about myself.
You know what I mean Likebrother, you know better.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
Why'd you do that?
You can't tell me that you andeveryone in the mirror have been
disappointed at yourself, likewhen you fucking, no, in the
mirror, but like in the shower.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I'm usually like I mean because, listen, I try to
be like trying to be in shittype of person that talks to
people about your shit, right,and you just kind of talk to
yourself about it.
Sometimes you need a face tolook at to say that shit to at
least me so when I'm in thatmotherfucker.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
Like I said, I cuss myself out sometimes I feel it,
you feel me and it helps me out,you know.
I don't cuss at other people, Icuss at myself in the car.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
No, I cuss at other people too.
God, I hate people Driving.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh.
All day, you know my-.
Why would you do that?
That's my favorite shit.
Why would you do that?
Dumb as a box of fucking rocks,that's my favorite shit.
Scooch your ass over.
So you did all that?
Just to get in front of me andgo slow.
(27:07):
I say that shit all the time,that just to get in front of me
and go slow.
I hate everything about you.
Don't even know this person.
Get by them and they old.
I'll be like oh.
I'm sorry baby, Just move dang.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, they built the roads.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
Fucking lying.
Every time I get cut off, theguy's like, look at, you played
yourself All that.
For what Played yourself?
I?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
love that.
So what is your creativeprocess when writing and
creating verses or songs?
My creative process, yeah,presently it's me and my phone.
Presently I'll keep it real.
Growing up.
I still have every notepad I'veever written a rhyme on.
(27:52):
I got them front and back page.
You know what I mean?
In my music room at the crib Ijust got a ridiculous amount of
fucking notebooks and I used toalways just write to a beat.
I'd have to have a beat first.
Sometimes I'll come up with ahook in my mind and then I'll
(28:14):
write some shit and figure Ihave to find a beat for it, you
know so sometimes it's that way,but mostly these days I'll have
a beat or we'll make up one onthe spot.
It depends on what project I'mworking on, right?
So, like I said, I love music.
I've always sang and collectedrecords and all that shit.
So I have a project with aproducer Fingers and it's under
(28:37):
the name Dirty Hathaway and I'mjust singing on that shit.
That's dope.
And I'm rapping too, but not inthe Dirty Birdie voice.
You know, that's a wholedifferent guy.
And then I have the dirtybirdie stuff and that stuff is
either is mostly stank, sendingme something or me going through
(28:59):
my emails from a beat I had himsend me several years ago and
it still sounds relevant to me.
So, or it still makes me feel acertain kind of way, so I'll
shout up the doctor stank yeah,shout out to stank.
My brother, yes.
And funk john yeah, shout outto dre.
So what projects do you have inthe works?
(29:19):
Well, you just mentioned one.
Uh, what future projects thatyou have in the works that you
want to do future?
Yeah, uh, I'll probably goahead and release the digital
cardiac album, the dirty birdiedigital cardiac album.
I'm gonna go ahead and releaseit.
I got probably like four orfive singles out right now on
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spotify, apple, whatever thehell.
Um, so I'm gonna do that.
And then fingers, and I havebeen slowly releasing singles
off of the dirty hathawayproject, so I'm gonna do that.
And then fingers and I havebeen slowly releasing singles
off of the dirty Hathawayproject, so I'm gonna finish
that.
I'm gonna do some videos andsome reels for both of those
things.
My son and I.
My son all my sons is spitters.
Um, my youngest baby is amonster.
(30:02):
My son shout out to my son,kahari.
He just turned 26.
He's a monster.
Shout out to my son, lil Kareem.
He's a freestyle fanatic, sohave they all challenged you?
I don't think that they woulddo that because they grew up
(30:25):
like literally sitting at mydesk and going through my
library Like they know how muchshit I have.
They wouldn't do that For fun,maybe Just to fuck with me.
What would Pop say?
But they haven't done that.
But my youngest?
He spits, like me, the mostKahari.
(30:48):
He got his own style and heraps in a low tone and he's dope
as fuck.
He's dope as fuck.
I ain't just saying that he'sdope as fuck.
Find no good hip hop.
You make good hip hop.
I appreciate it.
He's dope as fuck, and then andmy baby, though he is a bar god.
That's what's up.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I like how you suddenly justsaid that they can't see you.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, hey man.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
That confidence is.
So listen, that would take themtoo long to catch up, you know
what I mean yeah.
I've done every style andthey've heard a shit ton of them
, but I still got the vault inthere in that closet with
notebooks full of shit that Iain't never even spit to nobody,
that's so not once, like everytime every once in a while.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
You know you gotta try to like hit a jump shot on
pops once in a while.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
I'm gonna tell you right now, at this age, man, go
on if you.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
I'm going to tell you right now, at this age man, go
on.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
If you can get one off, god bless you.
Little nigga, fuck with that,because you ain't made me upset.
You're my baby.
I'm the reason why you can dowhat you do.
I love it.
That's dope.
That is very dope so.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
Des you ready?
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
You sure?
No, no, she ain't ready.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
I don't have a choice but to be ready.
First of all, I am high as hellover here.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I've been hungry for 15 minutes.
I'm sorry, des.
No, you're fine fucking secondhand smoke is the truth ain't it
god dang.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
I've been trying to hold it together for like 15
minutes god damn, that's funny.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
So 15 good, god dang, I've been trying to hold it
together for like 15 minutes.
God damn, that's funny.
So 15 good ones.
Here we go.
Let's go Dirty Birdie.
What is your top five?
Dead or alive MCs, all right.
So I'm going to tell you likethis All right, I've been
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listening to hip-hop since 79.
All right, you can't ask anigga that's been listening to
this shit for this long fivefunky ass people.
I don't have to be.
There's been decades anddecades of mcs, yeah, and there
have been motherfuckers thatwere the top in their decade.
So it's hard for me to gooverall.
This is right.
So what I'll tell you is thisfor what has influenced me as a
(33:19):
rapper, or as an MC, if you will, and made me want to do it?
Because there's been a lot ofgroups that I vibe to, like
Tribe Called Quest.
I vibe to them, but as an emceeI don't listen to them for
inspiration, lyrically for me.
You know what I mean.
I like them as rappers and theyare dope.
(33:42):
I would never take nothing fromthem.
I would never diss them or saythey were whack.
They're not whack, but theydon't motivate somebody like me
to write something keeping itlive.
No disrespect, you know whatI'm saying.
So they wouldn't be in my topfive MCs.
You know what I'm saying.
(34:03):
If we're talking about MCs thatinspired and influenced me, mine
starts from when I firststarted wanting to fuck with
this shit.
But first and foremost, likeDMX told my cousin Sly, he said
nigga, who's the nigga out there, out here?
(34:23):
Sly got the name in different.
He stopped that nigga and saidthen you're supposed to say you,
you first, the fuck, right,right.
So me, nigga, I'm, I'm mynumber, motherfucking one.
But for who influenced me whenI was a little nigga, off the
(34:46):
rip, shout out to stank.
I'm going to tell you who Ilearned what from who.
From Melly Mel.
I learned breath control as anMC.
I didn't know nothing aboutpunching in and shit like that.
It didn't sound like he waspunching.
(35:06):
I don't know, maybe they were,but for me he was wrapping that
shit all the way through and Icouldn't hear when he was taking
a breath.
It's breath control.
So my first guy is gonna bemelty mel, for me because of
breath control.
Ll cool j is who made me wantto rap, though.
I learned vocabulary and stagepresence from ll cool j.
(35:32):
Slick rick is the reason why Iwent home and wrote the rap that
day, because I repeated hisshit when I was in the ninth
grade.
I like slick rick because ofhis cleverness, his wittiness,
his style and his charisma.
(35:52):
Now, as somebody being here in86, I'm writing and all these
east coast niggas is the shit.
Who was the shit for me at thattime in conjunction with those
guys?
But was a West Coast nigga wasIce Cube.
Ice Cube is my nigga, butbefore Cube we didn't have a
(36:16):
whole lot of motherfuckers, thatwas bar niggas.
It was King T, king T, believeme.
So King T, ice Cube.
Then it's Rakim, then it's KRS,then it's Koo G Rap, then it's
Big Daddy Kane and Grand Poobah,then Pharoah Monch, then Tretch
(36:39):
, then Nas, then Redman, killer,priest, Rod Digger, eminem and
Kendrick.
Eminem and Kendrick.
Now it don't mean that I don'tlove a whole bunch of other
motherfuckers for their shit,right, because I love some of
(36:59):
everybody Like real talkMotherfuckers and niggas be like
.
I like him for what he does.
That nigga's good at doing him.
I fucks with that nigga's shitBecause I'm not comparing him to
somebody else, right?
This ain't no comparison gamefor me, right?
I like you for what you do, notbecause you remind me of Wootie
(37:23):
Woop or you know this nigga rapbetter than you.
Nah, nigga, you dope as fuck.
I like you for it, nigga youdoing you.
Nah, nigga, you dope as fuck.
I like you for it, nigga youdoing you.
Nigga, that shit sound dope tome.
You feel me?
Speaker 2 (37:34):
That's how I look at it.
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
So for me I don't have to be like comparing this
one to that one and all that.
That nigga's dope at what hedoes.
That nigga's dope at what hedoes.
Do I have more songs thatresonate with me by this nigga
than this nigga because of thebeat selections, and maybe he's
know how to write verses orhooks better, yeah, but that
don't mean this nigga ain't dopeas fuck too.
I fucks with both of theseniggas.
(37:57):
That's how I look at it.
I fuck with that.
So I don't have a really a topfive like that.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Sorry, you cool with that yeah, that was a great list
.
I don't have any complaints.
Okay, sure, I'm positive.
What are you holding in?
Speaker 1 (38:10):
I'm not holding anything in well, you can't, I
don't know so what are your uhsocials so they can get at you?
I am Dirty Birdie on Insta,dirty Birdie 909 on TikTok,
(38:34):
dirty Birdie 909, I want to say,on Twitter.
I don't really be on Twitter.
I mostly engage on Insta andTikTok and also for the dinosaur
, dinosaur vibe.
I fuck with Facebook, familyand you know niggas.
I grew up with and shit.
(38:55):
I like seeing that, but that'sunder my government, which is
Kareem Jermaine, so I'm an oldman now cause.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
I'm a I'm a Facebook nigga.
Yeah, I'm an old Facebook,nigga too.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
I fuck with it.
So I want to say thank youagain for being a part of this
today.
This has like been a it's likemy favorite episode, bar none
for sure, man.
Thank you for having me.
Man, I learned a lot.
I didn't get a contact highlike Des, but I did get a high
from I'm over here high as akite.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
It's too late, baby.
I'm over here high as a kite.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
But I do the game.
You dropped the charisma.
The fact that you said you fuckwith my music just made me
fucking.
It just made my day.
So again.
Speaker 3 (39:45):
Did it inspire you?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
You've all been writing the last few days To
release.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
I do write all the time.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
The question is are you going to release?
Speaker 1 (39:56):
We'll see you have to .
I just know this man inspires alot of us, specifically me, and
it meant a lot for you to showup here.
Can I ask?
Speaker 2 (40:08):
a question real quick Is it possible to get a McF?
Can I ask a question real quickIs it possible to get a McFly
Dirty Birdie song together?
Speaker 3 (40:15):
Oh, I would love that .
Can we make that happen?
Oh, I would love that.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Shoot me the beat.
My only stipulation is whateverit is, we gotta shoot a video
for it.
Oh, I love that.
I want that.
As long as we shoot a video forit, we can do it.
Oh, I love that, I'm with that.
As long as we shoot a video forit, we can do it, alright, okay
.
That is dope, because everythingI do going forward in my life
and I learn I do it like I'mdoing it for TV.
I take everything serious.
(40:40):
I don't just do it just to doit.
So if we gonna do it, let's doit, Okay, you?
Speaker 2 (40:46):
feel me yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I fucks with you.
It's nothing.
It's nothing.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
I just made my fucking week year, um, but again
I want to thank you for beinghere, uh, thank you.
You're always welcome back,always welcome and it's been a
vibe and uh, show your love,support, support, like,
subscribe, share and comment.
All that shit To next time.
We love you.
Peace Yo, and real quick myshirts.
(41:16):
Yo hit me about the shirt.
You mind letting them see theback?
Oh yeah, send them to the back,shit, I don't want to fuck them
all.
Speaker 3 (41:27):
My bad yeah.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I like it.
That's so cute.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
That dirty birdie right there.
You feel me Get at me.
I got all sizes.
You feel me $25.
Holler at a real one.
I got hats too.
Tweet, tweet, peace, peace,peace.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
This has been another episode of the Heavyweight
Podcast Talk your shit, of theHeavyweight Podcast Talk your
shit.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
One thing about me, baby, I'm showing up every week
to see who coming to talk theirshit.
Y'all better show up with me.
See you there, bye.
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