June 26, 2025 • 35 mins
This episode is a masterclass in grit, growth, and god-level resilience. Navy Chief, father, and powerlifter William Alexander shares his journey from paralysis to purpose. His story will light a fire under anyone pushing through physical or mental setbacks.
William talks weight loss, mental health, racial dynamics in the Navy, and building a legacy through his podcast and clothing line. Don’t miss this one.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
say you're in the trenches with different
nationalities, differentbackgrounds, you start saying
some offlandish stuff thatnormal civilian people wouldn't
hear.
They'd be like they want tobeat you up for it, but for us
it's normal, it's like we don'tknow because we're out to sea or
worse, in the camaraderie.
We don't build such acamaraderie.
We're saying some irregularshit and you would just we would
laugh about, about.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
But y'all be like yo, like y'all really like, y'all
really talk like that's a toughone yeah, like to the civilian,
yeah, yeah, there's some thingsand stuff and they're like I'm
like I'll probably get firedyeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Like you just get on the civilians, you can't just
walk up and cut somebody outbecause you're mad, because
you're gonna get you get rid ofher fire, like that's a normal
thing in the military.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm heavy structure.
I'm hung low.
If I pull my shit out, thiswhole room get dark shit, ie in
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this bitch love never resting onmy lows.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
The definition of a core when they stop questioning
you more of the cavitation.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
What's good?
This is another rendition oftalk yo shit.
Now backstory on this one.
Um, for a while now, uh, thisman goes to my gym and I came
across him on the story of ourgym's Instagram and I was like,
(01:34):
man, this dude gets it in, he'sa beast.
So every time I would see himin the gym I'm like damn, he's
beasting.
And uh, after a while I would,since maurice is also on a
health journey and a workoutjourney uh, I would hit up
maurice and be like, hey, man,there's this dude at the gym
that be beasting.
(01:55):
I said he kind of looks like abuff you, so I would call him
buff mo.
So every time I would see him Iwas like, damn, there goes,
buff.
Moment he getting it in again.
And then it was one time Ican't remember if it was 140 or
150 you asked for help with.
Uh, you were like, hey, man,can you help me out?
(02:15):
And I said, yeah, let me go,like you want a spot or
something like cool.
So I go to thinking I'mspotting, he goes.
No, no, I'm on man, I just needyou to help me lift him up on
my knee so I can lift him up.
I said, oh, I felt like a bitchin that moment.
And my mom I'm like, wait aminute, you don't need help with
this like, and then he's like,yeah, go ahead and help me put
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it on my knee.
So I'm lifting up and I'mstruggling.
I'm like, is he judging me?
And um, so we uh, he gets the,the weights up and he just
starts lifting them, just like,like, like it's nothing for him
and I'm like my nigga, like Ican't, I can't fathom this, this
, this kind of strength.
So, so, anyway, I see him inthe gym and every time I see him
(02:59):
he's beasting.
I see him on Instagram he'sbeasting.
And then one day I'm hoping, and, and he comes into the courts
and he goes, hey, man, like I'mtrying to like possibly get on
this path to doing podcasting,is it cool?
But you know, if I'm a guest orcome into your podcast, kind of
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feel like, when you run with,with the signs, uh, you end up
in a situation where it's likeit kind of fits perfectly
because, um, to me, uh, what he,the path that he's on and the
journey that he's on as alsobeing a father, um, also being
in the navy and having a careerin the navy and trying to
balance it all, being an activefather on top of that, um, it
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just, it just made sense to me.
So, um, he has this journeythat he's on, he's a dope
individual.
Every time I chop it up, when Iwas always on a positive vibe.
Um, ladies and gentlemen, I giveto you the one I'm gonna.
You want me to just call youwill, but I kind of feel like
it's hey, just, it's just Will.
It's like no, william Dennis,william Dennis, alexander, like
(04:07):
I WD, I'm going to WD40, 140,150.
You know what I'm saying like.
So, ladies and gentlemen, wegive to you, I'm going to call
him WD40.
Fuck it, yeah what's happening.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean I told the man he was there for midnight hey
yeah, I know right, they'regoing to look at you, they're
definitely going to find you now.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
How are you doing this morning?
I'm good, blessed to be here.
I appreciate y'all Humblebeginnings, so thank you.
Thank you for having me Thanksfor being here.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, thank you for being here.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So I know, the other day you told me that a couple
years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
This was when the light hit.
What, what was it and whatflipped that switch and you
taking your health and workoutsso seriously like you do.
So a little backstory.
I've kind of always been lifted.
I've been lifting since I was16, 14, 16 years old.
Due to football in high schoolwe had to do the summer lifting
program.
So I've always worked out.
Yeah, I I've always fluctuatedin weight.
My at one point in time I was265.
I cut down the weight, got downto two like 205.
(05:09):
Um, but I hit my highest everabout three years ago.
I got to 275.
I look like a.
I called myself the black Kirby, you know what.
I'm saying I was looking bad andum, I was like, yeah, I was
strong and I, like I said I'vealways lifted.
But I, dad, and um, I was like,yeah, I was strong and I, like
I said I've always lifted, but I, you know, uh, I didn't really
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see myself because I was on theship, I was underweight and I
was just like we didn't have anadequate gym to my measure to to
keep me where I wanted to be at.
And I gave myself a lot ofvalid excuses.
But yeah, when I seen thatpicture, when I I remember we
pulled into a port we were inthe middle east and I think I
forgot what port we pulled intoand I walked past the mirror, I
was like, holy fuck, and thenthis was in me in transfer,
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coming back to the States and beback States with my family.
I was like, as soon as Itouched ground, I'm on the grind
.
So I lost.
In about eight months I had lostlike 55 pounds and I hit a
moment where I was like, oh, I'mkind of stuck.
So I did a seven day fast.
Uh, seven day water fast,cleared it up and then I dropped
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.
I got down to back into a 208.
And then this was all withinlast year and then I got hurt.
Um, last year I had a rupturedherniated disc in my neck and
I've kind of been uh rebuilding,lost all functionality to the
lower half of my body.
I was actually at the gym righthere on the elliptical.
I didn't know what was going onand then my body just fucking
(06:32):
gave out.
Damn Fuck.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Oh my gosh, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Long story short, I'm blessed, like I'm glad I'm able
to luckily find out.
They thought I had a stroke.
I went to Menifee Hospital.
They did a stroke test on medidn't find anything.
So they sent me to a riversidecommunity, did another stroke
test didn't find anything.
Then they did the mri andthat's when they seen I had the
rupture herniated disc in myneck, with next diagnosis.
So basically, the ruptureherniated disc started growing
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through the membrane thatprotects your spinal cord and it
was flattening my spinal cordand I fucking that that's what
caused everything to.
It's for me to lose everything.
So, um, I had to.
The doctor was like, yeah, yougotta have surgery.
So they went through the frontof my neck, um cut the cut that
off and I got a stint in my uh,like a titanium plate in my neck
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, um, so that's what I'm saying.
I'm blessed to be here againand be able to get back to doing
what I was doing.
Uh, but yeah, that like allthat kind of took place in me.
That's where it started, likethe 275, and then that happened
and I was like I'm going to comeback stronger and better.
So, yeah, that's what's up, man.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Shout out to God.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes, yes, that's wild .
Wait, how tall are you?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
5'6" 275?
.
Yeah, nigga, I was hey, hey,hey hey, nigga, hey I, you guys
have a whole fat girl on thedamn team Be quiet okay, thank
you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
This is men discussing men.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I don't give a damn, you have a whole fat girl
sitting up here.
Be quiet, say it over there.
I'm always going to be righthere where I need to be.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Fuck gonna be right here where I need to be fuck.
Uh, so what is legacy lives?
Um, so it's kind of justsomething I've been playing with
, I guess, more or less likeit's not for me, it's for my son
.
So if I ever pass, my son couldgo on my instagram curve like
that's my dad.
You know what I mean.
Like, um, I think mentally whereI'm at with the gym a lot, I
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think a lot of young men andboys need it and they don't
understand how much effect it is.
And I'm not saying you need thegym, you need to be able to,
you need to work out daily.
It does something positive toyour brain that is
scientifically proven.
That you need.
And I, once I got to that pointthat I have to understand that
I need the gym day, even if it'slike the small things, going
for a walk or something like.
If there's day Trust me, there's, no, there's days I'm like,
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fuck, I did not feel like goingto the gym, like you, just don't
feel like it.
So I'm like, all right, let meat least go for a walk and I'll
go for a walk and I'll see.
Like you know, I have like thepull up bars, I go do a couple
of stuff like that, but justhaving shoot clear a lot of shit
and I just want legacy lifts,it's like I want my son's like
okay, my dad did this daily,like if I ever pass that, that
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is there for him to be like,okay, dang, I want to surpass my
dad.
You know like right now myheaviest lifts bench, squat,
deadlift.
I did 1300 pounds what?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
yeah, so you let's go win the bagel, yeah yeah, um,
and I just surpassed.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I finally just surpassed.
You know, I feel like, uh, Ijust surpassed my goal, one of
my goal weights of deadlift.
So, um, when I did my 1300pound lift, I my max was 465 on
deadlift.
I finally hit 485 and this isalso coming back after injury
and like I was just happy to hit485, I was like fuck.
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So now I'm like, okay, I gottaget hit 500.
It's something I don't knowsomething about.
The, the delayed gratificationof once you hit that like it
does something to you mentally,physically and spiritually, like
I finally fucking did it.
It's just that small goal andit might not seem like much, but
it's a lot for you as a person.
People, I think peopleunderachieve themselves a lot.
Like even you guys having thispodcast is fucking dope.
Like I'm super appreciative ofyou guys having me on here, but
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like, don't underappreciateyourself, because this moment
you put those negative thoughtsin your head, you're going to
always feed that to yourself andwe're already fighting through
negative thoughts that true,that's very true so very true.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
How many so do you?
Do you just lift the lift?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
or do you power lift?
Um, I was gonna, I did, did one, two, one power lifting
competition, but it was throughthe military, um, and that's
when I had my 1300 pound lift,but, um, I haven't competed,
competed, okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Um because I just asked my wife.
My wife just started powerlifting, like she's serious
about it, like and she, she, shegetting strong.
You know, she called herselfbig bro join her, joint join her
I don't power live.
I live, but you know I'm dogthe thing.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
There's this guy I follow.
He's like you got to be strongfor your family and I was like.
He's like think worst casescenario is something your house
caught on fire and your familygot hurt, can you carry your
family on your back and carrythem out the house?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I mean one and a half , but that's you know what I'm
saying.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And just following this dude and this dude's
another brother and I was likethat makes sense.
So I kind of changed some of mylifting styles in a sense, Like
I started doing this thing.
They're called the Zerchersquats.
Oh, yeah.
Where you put the bar.
Here it's like, basically, ifyou're like carrying somebody,
so I started doing ZurcherSquatch, in sense that, like I'm
thinking worst case scenario,if I have to pick up and carry
my wife and my son, I'm able todo that.
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So I always put their weight onthe bar when I'm doing Zurcher
Squatch and I'll walk andsometimes I'll do Zurcher Walk.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So, man, I'm trying, I'm trying.
Hey look, he said they couldwalk.
Sometimes you gotta go, hey wegotta work together.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
This is the thing that.
This is the thing that's crazythat I've learned.
When I mentally about people,you will go out like if you're
moving, you like you don't eventhink about it, like well, that
couch could be 300 pounds, butyou won't know it's 300 pounds,
but you're gonna pick it up andtry and put on a truck no, I
won't.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
No, that's those things are done.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh well, I mean, unless you're hurt but, like, a
lot of people have that samementality.
They go in the gym, they seethe weight, like oh fuck, that's
100 pounds.
Like that's heavy, like, andI'm like I don't think like that
, I'm like it's just fuckingweight is I'm either gonna I'm
either gonna be able to comeback and do it.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You got a better mentality than me, I got to get
it, though it takes time.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It wasn't like I built this shit overnight.
It was like a lot of fighting.
You know what I mean.
A lot of mental fighting and,just you know, having the words
to encourage myself.
You know I live by an oldsaying In football.
Our coach gave us a mirror andon the mirror it said you're
only as good as a man in themirror.
And I wrote that when I madechief.
I wrote that in my, in myvessel.
And like it's hard to look atyourself.
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You have to judge yourselfevery day.
You got to be your biggestcritic and sometimes it's hard
to admit yourself like whereyou're actually fucking up.
And it's easier to lookyourself in the eyes and lie
than this tell to tell yourselfthe truth.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's funny.
You said that, man, I've beenlike this last four months.
I've been on thisself-accountability shit and
I'll be making myself cry.
I'll be like you, fucking up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
So how many years have you been in the name?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It'll be 20 years come September.
So yeah, thank you for yourservice, thank you thank you for
continued every shit.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, it's been a long time, man.
So, as a father, how hard is itto balance your career, the gym
and also being an active parent?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
um, on a scale of one to ten, ten being, uh, the
hardest, I would say it'sprobably about a seven, right?
Because, uh, mind you, I liveway out here in the ie, so I
drive an hour and a half to workevery day, and then coming back
, it's two hours, depending ontraffic, or two plus hours.
Shit, you go way out there, yeahyeah, I'm working, so um, and
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then when I get home he wants tohang out.
He's the only child, so he seesthat he wants to play, he wants
to, you know, just be active,and then he's also in jujitsu.
So I have to make sure I gethome in time enough to try and
take him down to jujitsu so hecan have some discipline.
And it's about a seven.
The thing I learned is withjuggling is you're always going
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to have time.
It's on you if you're going tomake the time for yourself,
right.
So I've had to learn to maketime for myself.
So sometimes I'll you know Idon't have to be to work till
nine, but I'm like I can wake upat five, get out the house by
six and still go get like a gym,go work out at the gym on base
before I have to be at work,right, like you, there's always
time, it's just depending onwhere you want to place your
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time at Right.
And then, like there'ssometimes like he'll get done
with jujitsu and thank God, youknow, powerhouse has a, has a
daycare, so like I'll be likefuck, I haven't had another
workout, or I'll go get anotherworkout after his.
So sometimes I do two days,depending on how I'm feeling.
You know what I mean.
But yeah, I mean it's about aseven.
Like I'm not, it's not superhigh, but like, yeah, there are
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days where I'm like man, I donot want to do this.
Today I'm like dog, can youjust chill out?
Like just daddy needs a breakreal quick, you know.
But at the end of the day it'sa blessing.
You know, I have to remindmyself it's a blessing just to
have my son.
Just a short story I almostlost my son and my wife when my
son was born.
So I have to remind myself,even though he's the only child,
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like I almost did not have theopportunity with him.
So I have to keep remindingmyself that daily.
Like OK, he just wants to playwith that you know what I mean,
so.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
So you already touched on it, but what does the
gym do for you mentally, on topof the like, like the, the, the
positive energy it sends?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It suppresses the negative thoughts A hundred
percent, like a thousand percent.
Um, when the the and it's sad,the days I don't want to go is
when I have my best lifts, likethe days where, like myself,
talking to car, like you know,having that long drive to work,
you have a lot of self-talk andyou think about, like you know,
what you want to do, all theseother things I'm like you know,
that's like my, my meditation,right, and it's crazy.
Everybody's like how do you?
You know, when you drive towork, what do you do?
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I was like I honestly I don'thave the radio on, that car goes
away and I just focus on thepositive.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
So what is your most embarrassing moment in the gym?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't care anymore because I'm older.
I shit on myself.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Damn.
Oh my God, that was not what Iwas, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So, back in the early days when pre-workout used to
have everything in it.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You got to explain it to me, I understand.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I would take my pre-workout and then go to the
gym.
One time it was my wife'scousin, javi.
He was with me and I was likebro, I can't hold it.
I got to go and as we steppedin the gym I thought I was good.
I was about to run to therestroom.
Nah, I didn't even make it to alift yet.
I was like that was back whenJack 3D and everything like all
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types of chemicals in it.
It would just run through yourbody.
But yeah, that was that'sprobably one of my most
embarrassing moments in the gym.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yikes.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That's hilarious because that was literally me
yesterday.
I was on the treadmill and Isaid, nope, it took off Because
that free workout wasn't gettingthrough.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that's that prayer that Jesus is
like.
Just make it please today.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I said Lord, I got 100 feet.
I literally grabbed my phoneand left it in my bag.
If it's not there when I getback, we're about to get back.
We got to focus on this rightnow.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, but that happened probably like 10 years
ago.
Yeah, 10, 15 years ago.
Yeah, 10, 15 years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's one of my greatest fears.
Yeah, I feel like that youshould probably, but I feel like
that's up number one.
That's one of my greatest fears, like doodling.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Hey man, you never.
I was going to say like, likesomething like a hack squat yeah
.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I've seen people where they be in the middle of a
squat and they're like, thankGod, like you see it straining
through the fucking.
Oh my God, I'd be like yo.
I'm glad it was in me and itgot on my shorts and I could
make it home and change.
But middle of a squat and yousee it just juicing.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Like oh man, you've been home and changed and came
back.
Yeah, oh, that would have beenit for me?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
oh no, I wasn't.
I was already locked in.
I was like I'm just gonnashower, throw my shit away and
get back to see I would have hada long talk in the shower like
how you had on the car ride.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'd be like damn, I just yeah, you know, at a
different gym.
Yeah, a different location.
I would have went back to itbecause I got a camera, because
did anybody see you?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Did anybody see?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
you?
No, that's just like I said.
I was walking in, I didn't getto check in, so it was like and
Javi's like, what's going on?
I was like, hey, we got to goback to that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh yeah what setbacks have you faced as a black man
in the navy or even just tryingto get healthy?
Um?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
all right.
So in the navy, uh, you know,uh, growing up, I grew up in a
small, but I grew up in apachejunction, arizona.
I was one of probably like fiveblack people lord apache
junction yeah damn, he was outthere yeah we was out there, you
know my parents kept movingfurther for the way they were
trying to buy a house and dotheir thing whatever.
I'm not mad about that, um.
So my mom always used to tellme she was like, hey, I don't
want you and your brother to beracist like I don't fuck in my
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head.
I'm like how black people,racist like we, we've been
systemically beat up, all of our.
You know so.
When I joined the navy and Iwent to the east coast and I'm
around more black people, Iactually have been criticized of
my color because I wasn't blackenough or I wasn't.
I wasn't, you know, in the term, I wasn't niggin' I was like,
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in my eyes where I come from,I'm like, bro, like if we
walking down the street, me andyou both gonna get chased, so
what the fuck does it matter?
You know as, but I have been inpositions also too with that
and I'm not where.
It was a struggle for me tomake rank and it's not that I
wasn't busting my ass to do whatI do.
I was like me and him do thesame thing.
If not, I do more.
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Why is he getting?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, that's not your homie.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Why is he getting this over me?
And I am going to say I'm in arate that is predominantly white
.
I'm in a.
I'm in.
I'm in a very small community.
It's called I'm a mime and um,we just made our first black
master chief in the rate and therace been around for 30 plus
years yeah, so um, it's.
(20:52):
You know, am I gonna say, isthere still like hidden racism,
all this stuff in the militaryor whatever?
I don't know.
I can't say that thereofficially is, but I've had
moments where I was like thisshit don't seem right.
You know what I mean and Idon't think it's fair.
So you know there's alsosystems in play for all this
stuff.
So you know you can't makereports and all this stuff if
you are feeling some type of way.
But yeah, I happen for certainpeople and I'm like, I'm like yo
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, this dude does the same amountas me and how's he still
getting more?
So you know, you just kind ofyou got to cut your wins with
your losses, like, at the end ofthe day, the way I look at it,
um, I'm six, I'm fifthgeneration navy, I'm the first
in my family to retire and puton khakis that's dope you know
what I'm saying.
So so well in, at least on thealexander household, like on my
dad's, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
But I just think about racism in the military
being and I'm not thinking inthe ranking scale part of it.
It's more like it seems moreovert, like people are more
willing to be out with it,whereas like into me, when I was
doing that, it wasn't.
I didn't give a fuck becauseI'm like, well, we're all being
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fucking racist.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
so yeah, yeah, I mean you've there's certain you
become immune to certain jokesbecause when you hear, start
hearing another race say thesame joke that you probably
would have said, you're likewhat, what is this?
Like you know what I mean.
Like you know, look like garyowen, like I do, was in the navy
, like some of the stuff he says.
You're like that's definitelysome Navy jokes.
Like you're going to say you'rein the trenches with different
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nationalities, differentbackgrounds.
You start saying someofflandish stuff that normal
civilian people wouldn't hear.
They'd be like they want tobeat you up for it, but for us
it's normal.
It's like we out to sea orwe're in the camaraderie we done
built such a camaraderie.
We're saying some irregularshit and you just we would laugh
about.
But y'all be like yo, likey'all really like.
Y'all really talk like that's atough one yeah like to the
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civilian.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, yeah, there's some things, stuff, and they're
like I'm like I'll probably getfired yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Like you just get on the civilians.
You can't just walk up and cutsomebody out because you're mad,
because you go get you get ridof her fire.
Like that's a normal thing inthe military.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're mad at somebody,they're gonna walk up to you
and cuss you out, but you'relike I still got a job yeah, and
then at the end of the day,everybody still come together
and then get what you had to getdone yeah, that was the that
was the coolest part to me,where I was like that
(23:13):
motherfucker's racist.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I know it, but we gotta get this done.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
You just yeah, so what?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
projects or plans do you have in the works currently,
right now?
Well, right now, me and my boyare getting our podcast together
.
It's going to be called TwoGrumpy Gills.
Oh, I like that Based on likeNavy type stuff, but just
general, like how you guys are.
Only thing is ours is probablygoing to be more virtual,
because he's over in Bahrainright now.
(23:45):
What was the name?
Again Two Grumpy Gills, gills.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Like two fish, two Grumpy Gills.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
He was going to say put the third gill.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
There's a Grumpy Gil right here.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The last thing is gills.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Oh gotcha and that nigga be grumpy.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
He was and that nigga be grumpy.
I knew exactly where he wasgoing.
That's why I was looking at youlike no nigga keep it pushing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, so that's the guy going like that.
And then I'm trying to get mybrand off, anchored and Goated
Apparel, so I'm just trying tomake it to CPO Pride Day.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
What's the message behind that?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So Anchored by God, Goated by Life.
That's what I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Oh, I like that.
I would buy a shirt right now.
Do you have a website?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
No, I just got my design down, so I'm trying to
find a vendor to at least do myfirst prints.
Motherfucker, you playing Navygames too, though Shut the fuck
up, don't play with me, youplaying.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Navy games too.
They was too anchored andgoaded by that.
I know what the chief lock isabout.
That's smart, that's smart, heyman, that's a big demographic.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
That's what I'm saying.
You got to play the game.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You tried to leave that out.
I was like, nah, nigga, there'smore to it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Hey man, that's dope, I like it, I like it a lot, but
yeah, that's what I got inorder.
And then retirement like, um,I'm like I have no regrets,
anything about the military andall that.
I'm not gonna speak bad aboutit or nothing, right, but you do
get to a point where you'relike yo, it's time for the other
side, like, and I'm just atthat point, like you know, I'm
(25:13):
super humbled that I was able toput on khakis before I retire
and do all these great things.
But I'm ready to just be a dadyou know what I mean or and be a
husband and not have to like,worry about it.
Somebody's gonna call me hey,man, like, when you're in the
military, you have to understandyou're gonna adult adults and
that gets annoying after a while.
You know what I mean.
Like you really gonna have toadult adults, you know.
(25:35):
And uh, a lot of newergeneration of kids are.
It's different.
This is the way I look at it.
I have my own theory behindthis.
We have kids come in themilitary that are from the teen
mom era.
There were teens raising kidsand so, like you know, we have
to teach them certain things.
And I remember one specificstory that got me Like we had a
(25:55):
kid that he thought washingclothes was just putting his
clothes in the washer.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And then put them in the dryer and we're like why do
you?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
why do you still smell?
Because nobody Don't do this man, you know what I'm talking
about.
Like there are just certainthings that I'm like I don't
want to have to deal with thesetype of people.
I have to tell them how toadult, because it's weird, yeah,
it is like.
So I'm just.
But like, at the end of the day, wholeheartedly, you know there
(26:25):
is pluses about the, themilitary and whole right like,
you get your gi bill, you getyour va loan, you can use that,
all that stuff to rest your life.
What do you do?
420?
It's a stepping stone in lifethat a lot of people not a lot
of people know about and they'llbe like oh, I don't want to
join the government, but I'mlike, all right, we'll just do
four years and then get a valoan the rest of your life.
Get your, get your collegedegree the rest of your life.
I'm nobody, nobody's tellingyou to do your whole lifetime,
(26:47):
but if you get your four years,you're gonna have more than most
americans got god damn right so, so des are you ready?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
oh gosh, here we.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Okay, before you ask this question, and I become very
irritated how do you not knowthat?
How do you not even know thatyou prejudiced me?
Man, I'm beginning to thinkthat I am the only still fan.
No, that's not true, I thinkyou'll be surprised For the
people who don't know.
You just mentioned that you gotto put on khakis.
Can you explain what that is?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So there's two ways to put on CAC is you either go
chief or you go officer?
So I personally believe you gotto be attracted in something
that you want.
I was either one to be a chiefor I want to be a warrant
officer, which is another typeof officer.
But you got to basically put onchief to make warrant Right.
(27:37):
And I want to be a bosun, whichis a bosun, which is an
extended officer rate of thebosunate rating right.
I love I'm a deck guy, I loveworking my hands, I like being
outside and stuff like that, butputting on khakis.
So I became a chief.
So you basically there is nolike hard pipeline saying this
is how you become a chief isbasically you try to achieve as
(27:59):
much as possible and submit apacket Like first you got to
take a test.
If you pass the test you getyour.
You, they call it your yourticket to the dance, right.
So once you pass a test, that'swhen you're able to submit a
package basically saying theseare all the things I've done to
be able to put on khakis as achief, right, and you submit it
(28:20):
to the chief's board, theyreview and they basically say
all right, hey, he has X, y andZ.
All his evals say X, y and Zyou can put on chief If you go
the officer route.
There's different programs youcan do to go the officer route.
Some are pre-college.
Some people you know you got alot of guys that go to what's it
(28:41):
called, not the Citadel theNavy College.
They come out of the NavyCollege and become officer.
But if you go enlisted, there'sa bunch of you got State 21.
There's programs you couldsubmit to you know after, like,
once you become first class, youtake the chief's exam.
It just makes you eligible todo an LDO board, which is
limited duty officer Like.
That's the two ways you caneither put on cat cases, either
(29:05):
via um, um, the Navy college,going to you know right after
high school, going to Navycollege and you come in as an
officer um, or you can do aprogram.
There's so many of them.
Uh, like matter of fact, my um,my wife's cousin's husband,
david, he just he Zoomed.
He made HM1 like four years andthen got picked up for officer
program.
So he's only been in the Navylike six years.
He's already an officer.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yeah, it sounds like there's a lot that goes into it,
so congratulations on that,thank you, thank you.
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
now we're going to see what you're gonna say you're
right, oh, you're right here wego, I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
did you warn him?
What is?
What is this?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I'm ready, all right, did you warn him you?
Should have we gotta startwarning it's generational people
when people watch the episodebefore they come on.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
They already know.
Then let's get, let's get.
Okay, I'm ready I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So we have to know what is your top five Dead or
alive MCs.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
So okay, I don't have like a number one top five.
It doesn't have to be in order.
So I'm a huge guru slash gangstar fan.
My theme song is the Moment ofTruth by Gang Star.
Next, after that we have to beTribe, Called Quest.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, I feel like that was coming.
We're on the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
After that, de La Soul.
Okay, now, as far as West Coasthip-hop and the hip-hop I'm
into, I'd have to say the FarSide, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
That's a new one.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And then I mean a lot of people sleep on them.
But I'll be honest, I do likeTech N9ne.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
I can't be mad because I liked every artist on
your list.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I knew it wasn't going to where you thought from
the first time.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
I knew when you said it, that first one, I said oh
yeah, we ain't going to go wherewe're at.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
She thinks Pac should be on every one Because it
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
No, no, here's the problem Like no, the math don't
math.
I have nothing against Tupac,but I'm not, you know.
I feel like Tupac is a morehip-hop mainstream artist.
I've always more like theunderground scene, Like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
I listen a lot Non-commercial.
You said far side.
Yeah, like you ever heard ofWarm Brew?
No, I haven't, but I'm going togo look them up.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, I like Warm Brew.
They're a West Coast artist.
Who else in the West Coast?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
that I listen to.
Did you say Warm Brew?
Yeah, they're called Warm Brew.
Hot-ass coffee?
Yeah, it's called, it's not hotit's warm.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
So you got what I'm saying.
I like more the I don't likeit's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Your list was dope oh okay.
And it's not often I say thatand Tupac ain't on it, because
normally I act a fool, but yourlist was dope.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
No, she act a fool every time they don't mention
Tupac and and then she catch anattitude, and and that's how she
.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
She keep on passing me.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I'll be honest with you I was like fuck you and Jeff
, I don't say Tupac, but I don'tcare, I don't care, I'm not
going to sit out here.
I mean, if you really justthink about it, Tupac was just
the East Coast holders on theWest Coast.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He was global.
Look thank you.
Debatable.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
He was the Earth child.
Look man.
I got nothing against Tupac.
I still think he's a greatartist and all that.
But yeah, I'm more like theback packer.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I'm a back packer.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
You had a really good day, but yeah, seriously check
out Warm Brew, check out Pac Div.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
They're West Coast artists, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I tell everybody you like what you like, don't let
Dez influence you, it don'tmatter.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Because I'm still going to say what I said.
But you had a dope ass lips.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Don't let nobody kill Muppets in her spare time and,
honestly, if I have to, gonumber one West Coast Dom
Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Oh, I love Dom Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I just got to see him in concert.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
I love Dom Kennedy yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Dom K by far I'll ride, and Cassie.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Veggies?
Who Cassie Veggies?
I don't know that one.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
See, that's what I'm saying, I'm kidding, I listen to
.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Don yeah if you fuck with, then you've heard Cassie.
You just didn't know thatCassie Veggies was on it.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
There's another artist, oh man, I can't remember
his damn name Larry June.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Larry June fire.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Fire Larry.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
June fire.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Larry June farts 91 smoothies.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
My shit, I think I just like Larry June the music
where I just be sitting thereand I'm like I could dance like
a fool, just bro he's so true towho he is man he's like
somebody said the realest shitever.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I just seen a post and I was like how do you make
pouring out oranges look cool?
Larry June does it.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah man, he is dope yeah, so that's the way, vibes
yeah he's super vibey, so withthat being said, I want to thank
william wd-40.
He is now coined.
Wd-40 is dope.
Um appreciate it.
I appreciate you for being apart of this again.
(34:04):
You inspire me every time I goto the gym and see you, uh, put
up weight like it's nothing.
I mean.
Even the other day when I was,and you saw me.
Every time I go to the gym andsee you, uh, put up weight like
it's nothing.
I mean.
Even the other day when I wasand you saw me in a hack spot.
You said that looks too easy,bro up the weight.
I said god damn.
Hey, I'm gonna push you to dobetter with you, yes, so um I
appreciate the energy, the vibe,man and, like I said, you keep
(34:24):
inspiring as a black man, asjust as a dope person, man.
Um, thank you for being a partof this and shit.
You're always welcome to comeback Appreciate it and I wish
you all the best success withyour ventures, especially the
clothing line and the podcast.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Thank, you Appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yes, man, I look forward to it.
I guess until next time.
Like, subscribe, comment, shareAll that shit.
Peace, peace, peace.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
This has been another episode of the Heavyweight
Podcast.
Talk your shit.
One thing about me, baby I'mshowing up every week to see who
coming to talk their shit.
Y'all better show up with me.
See you there, bye.
say you're in the trenches with different
nationalities, differentbackgrounds, you start saying
some offlandish stuff thatnormal civilian people wouldn't
hear.
They'd be like they want tobeat you up for it, but for us
it's normal, it's like we don'tknow because we're out to sea or
worse, in the camaraderie.
We don't build such acamaraderie.
We're saying some irregularshit and you would just we would
laugh about, about.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
But y'all be like yo, like y'all really like, y'all
really talk like that's a toughone yeah, like to the civilian,
yeah, yeah, there's some thingsand stuff and they're like I'm
like I'll probably get firedyeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Like you just get on the civilians, you can't just
walk up and cut somebody outbecause you're mad, because
you're gonna get you get rid ofher fire, like that's a normal
thing in the military.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
I'm heavy structure.
I'm hung low.
If I pull my shit out, thiswhole room get dark shit, ie in
(01:07):
this bitch love never resting onmy lows.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
The definition of a core when they stop questioning
you more of the cavitation.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
What's good?
This is another rendition oftalk yo shit.
Now backstory on this one.
Um, for a while now, uh, thisman goes to my gym and I came
across him on the story of ourgym's Instagram and I was like,
(01:34):
man, this dude gets it in, he'sa beast.
So every time I would see himin the gym I'm like damn, he's
beasting.
And uh, after a while I would,since maurice is also on a
health journey and a workoutjourney uh, I would hit up
maurice and be like, hey, man,there's this dude at the gym
that be beasting.
(01:55):
I said he kind of looks like abuff you, so I would call him
buff mo.
So every time I would see him Iwas like, damn, there goes,
buff.
Moment he getting it in again.
And then it was one time Ican't remember if it was 140 or
150 you asked for help with.
Uh, you were like, hey, man,can you help me out?
(02:15):
And I said, yeah, let me go,like you want a spot or
something like cool.
So I go to thinking I'mspotting, he goes.
No, no, I'm on man, I just needyou to help me lift him up on
my knee so I can lift him up.
I said, oh, I felt like a bitchin that moment.
And my mom I'm like, wait aminute, you don't need help with
this like, and then he's like,yeah, go ahead and help me put
(02:37):
it on my knee.
So I'm lifting up and I'mstruggling.
I'm like, is he judging me?
And um, so we uh, he gets the,the weights up and he just
starts lifting them, just like,like, like it's nothing for him
and I'm like my nigga, like Ican't, I can't fathom this, this
, this kind of strength.
So, so, anyway, I see him inthe gym and every time I see him
(02:59):
he's beasting.
I see him on Instagram he'sbeasting.
And then one day I'm hoping, and, and he comes into the courts
and he goes, hey, man, like I'mtrying to like possibly get on
this path to doing podcasting,is it cool?
But you know, if I'm a guest orcome into your podcast, kind of
(03:21):
feel like, when you run with,with the signs, uh, you end up
in a situation where it's likeit kind of fits perfectly
because, um, to me, uh, what he,the path that he's on and the
journey that he's on as alsobeing a father, um, also being
in the navy and having a careerin the navy and trying to
balance it all, being an activefather on top of that, um, it
(03:44):
just, it just made sense to me.
So, um, he has this journeythat he's on, he's a dope
individual.
Every time I chop it up, when Iwas always on a positive vibe.
Um, ladies and gentlemen, I giveto you the one I'm gonna.
You want me to just call youwill, but I kind of feel like
it's hey, just, it's just Will.
It's like no, william Dennis,william Dennis, alexander, like
(04:07):
I WD, I'm going to WD40, 140,150.
You know what I'm saying like.
So, ladies and gentlemen, wegive to you, I'm going to call
him WD40.
Fuck it, yeah what's happening.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
I mean I told the man he was there for midnight hey
yeah, I know right, they'regoing to look at you, they're
definitely going to find you now.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
How are you doing this morning?
I'm good, blessed to be here.
I appreciate y'all Humblebeginnings, so thank you.
Thank you for having me Thanksfor being here.
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, thank you for being here.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
So I know, the other day you told me that a couple
years ago.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
This was when the light hit.
What, what was it and whatflipped that switch and you
taking your health and workoutsso seriously like you do.
So a little backstory.
I've kind of always been lifted.
I've been lifting since I was16, 14, 16 years old.
Due to football in high schoolwe had to do the summer lifting
program.
So I've always worked out.
Yeah, I I've always fluctuatedin weight.
My at one point in time I was265.
I cut down the weight, got downto two like 205.
(05:09):
Um, but I hit my highest everabout three years ago.
I got to 275.
I look like a.
I called myself the black Kirby, you know what.
I'm saying I was looking bad andum, I was like, yeah, I was
strong and I, like I said I'vealways lifted.
But I, dad, and um, I was like,yeah, I was strong and I, like
I said I've always lifted, but I, you know, uh, I didn't really
(05:30):
see myself because I was on theship, I was underweight and I
was just like we didn't have anadequate gym to my measure to to
keep me where I wanted to be at.
And I gave myself a lot ofvalid excuses.
But yeah, when I seen thatpicture, when I I remember we
pulled into a port we were inthe middle east and I think I
forgot what port we pulled intoand I walked past the mirror, I
was like, holy fuck, and thenthis was in me in transfer,
(05:50):
coming back to the States and beback States with my family.
I was like, as soon as Itouched ground, I'm on the grind
.
So I lost.
In about eight months I had lostlike 55 pounds and I hit a
moment where I was like, oh, I'mkind of stuck.
So I did a seven day fast.
Uh, seven day water fast,cleared it up and then I dropped
(06:11):
.
I got down to back into a 208.
And then this was all withinlast year and then I got hurt.
Um, last year I had a rupturedherniated disc in my neck and
I've kind of been uh rebuilding,lost all functionality to the
lower half of my body.
I was actually at the gym righthere on the elliptical.
I didn't know what was going onand then my body just fucking
(06:32):
gave out.
Damn Fuck.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Oh my gosh, so yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:37):
Long story short, I'm blessed, like I'm glad I'm able
to luckily find out.
They thought I had a stroke.
I went to Menifee Hospital.
They did a stroke test on medidn't find anything.
So they sent me to a riversidecommunity, did another stroke
test didn't find anything.
Then they did the mri andthat's when they seen I had the
rupture herniated disc in myneck, with next diagnosis.
So basically, the ruptureherniated disc started growing
(06:57):
through the membrane thatprotects your spinal cord and it
was flattening my spinal cordand I fucking that that's what
caused everything to.
It's for me to lose everything.
So, um, I had to.
The doctor was like, yeah, yougotta have surgery.
So they went through the frontof my neck, um cut the cut that
off and I got a stint in my uh,like a titanium plate in my neck
(07:18):
, um, so that's what I'm saying.
I'm blessed to be here againand be able to get back to doing
what I was doing.
Uh, but yeah, that like allthat kind of took place in me.
That's where it started, likethe 275, and then that happened
and I was like I'm going to comeback stronger and better.
So, yeah, that's what's up, man.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
Shout out to God.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yes, yes, that's wild .
Wait, how tall are you?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
5'6" 275?
.
Yeah, nigga, I was hey, hey,hey hey, nigga, hey I, you guys
have a whole fat girl on thedamn team Be quiet okay, thank
you.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
This is men discussing men.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
I don't give a damn, you have a whole fat girl
sitting up here.
Be quiet, say it over there.
I'm always going to be righthere where I need to be.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
Fuck gonna be right here where I need to be fuck.
Uh, so what is legacy lives?
Um, so it's kind of justsomething I've been playing with
, I guess, more or less likeit's not for me, it's for my son
.
So if I ever pass, my son couldgo on my instagram curve like
that's my dad.
You know what I mean.
Like, um, I think mentally whereI'm at with the gym a lot, I
(08:26):
think a lot of young men andboys need it and they don't
understand how much effect it is.
And I'm not saying you need thegym, you need to be able to,
you need to work out daily.
It does something positive toyour brain that is
scientifically proven.
That you need.
And I, once I got to that pointthat I have to understand that
I need the gym day, even if it'slike the small things, going
for a walk or something like.
If there's day Trust me, there's, no, there's days I'm like,
(08:47):
fuck, I did not feel like goingto the gym, like you, just don't
feel like it.
So I'm like, all right, let meat least go for a walk and I'll
go for a walk and I'll see.
Like you know, I have like thepull up bars, I go do a couple
of stuff like that, but justhaving shoot clear a lot of shit
and I just want legacy lifts,it's like I want my son's like
okay, my dad did this daily,like if I ever pass that, that
(09:10):
is there for him to be like,okay, dang, I want to surpass my
dad.
You know like right now myheaviest lifts bench, squat,
deadlift.
I did 1300 pounds what?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
yeah, so you let's go win the bagel, yeah yeah, um,
and I just surpassed.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
I finally just surpassed.
You know, I feel like, uh, Ijust surpassed my goal, one of
my goal weights of deadlift.
So, um, when I did my 1300pound lift, I my max was 465 on
deadlift.
I finally hit 485 and this isalso coming back after injury
and like I was just happy to hit485, I was like fuck.
(09:47):
So now I'm like, okay, I gottaget hit 500.
It's something I don't knowsomething about.
The, the delayed gratificationof once you hit that like it
does something to you mentally,physically and spiritually, like
I finally fucking did it.
It's just that small goal andit might not seem like much, but
it's a lot for you as a person.
People, I think peopleunderachieve themselves a lot.
Like even you guys having thispodcast is fucking dope.
Like I'm super appreciative ofyou guys having me on here, but
(10:10):
like, don't underappreciateyourself, because this moment
you put those negative thoughtsin your head, you're going to
always feed that to yourself andwe're already fighting through
negative thoughts that true,that's very true so very true.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
How many so do you?
Do you just lift the lift?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
or do you power lift?
Um, I was gonna, I did, did one, two, one power lifting
competition, but it was throughthe military, um, and that's
when I had my 1300 pound lift,but, um, I haven't competed,
competed, okay, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Um because I just asked my wife.
My wife just started powerlifting, like she's serious
about it, like and she, she, shegetting strong.
You know, she called herselfbig bro join her, joint join her
I don't power live.
I live, but you know I'm dogthe thing.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
There's this guy I follow.
He's like you got to be strongfor your family and I was like.
He's like think worst casescenario is something your house
caught on fire and your familygot hurt, can you carry your
family on your back and carrythem out the house?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I mean one and a half , but that's you know what I'm
saying.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
And just following this dude and this dude's
another brother and I was likethat makes sense.
So I kind of changed some of mylifting styles in a sense, Like
I started doing this thing.
They're called the Zerchersquats.
Oh, yeah.
Where you put the bar.
Here it's like, basically, ifyou're like carrying somebody,
so I started doing ZurcherSquatch, in sense that, like I'm
thinking worst case scenario,if I have to pick up and carry
my wife and my son, I'm able todo that.
(11:32):
So I always put their weight onthe bar when I'm doing Zurcher
Squatch and I'll walk andsometimes I'll do Zurcher Walk.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
So, man, I'm trying, I'm trying.
Hey look, he said they couldwalk.
Sometimes you gotta go, hey wegotta work together.
Speaker 1 (11:52):
This is the thing that.
This is the thing that's crazythat I've learned.
When I mentally about people,you will go out like if you're
moving, you like you don't eventhink about it, like well, that
couch could be 300 pounds, butyou won't know it's 300 pounds,
but you're gonna pick it up andtry and put on a truck no, I
won't.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
No, that's those things are done.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Oh well, I mean, unless you're hurt but, like, a
lot of people have that samementality.
They go in the gym, they seethe weight, like oh fuck, that's
100 pounds.
Like that's heavy, like, andI'm like I don't think like that
, I'm like it's just fuckingweight is I'm either gonna I'm
either gonna be able to comeback and do it.
I like that.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
You got a better mentality than me, I got to get
it, though it takes time.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
It wasn't like I built this shit overnight.
It was like a lot of fighting.
You know what I mean.
A lot of mental fighting and,just you know, having the words
to encourage myself.
You know I live by an oldsaying In football.
Our coach gave us a mirror andon the mirror it said you're
only as good as a man in themirror.
And I wrote that when I madechief.
I wrote that in my, in myvessel.
And like it's hard to look atyourself.
(12:54):
You have to judge yourselfevery day.
You got to be your biggestcritic and sometimes it's hard
to admit yourself like whereyou're actually fucking up.
And it's easier to lookyourself in the eyes and lie
than this tell to tell yourselfthe truth.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
It's funny.
You said that, man, I've beenlike this last four months.
I've been on thisself-accountability shit and
I'll be making myself cry.
I'll be like you, fucking up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
So how many years have you been in the name?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
It'll be 20 years come September.
So yeah, thank you for yourservice, thank you thank you for
continued every shit.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, it's been a long time, man.
So, as a father, how hard is itto balance your career, the gym
and also being an active parent?
Speaker 1 (13:43):
um, on a scale of one to ten, ten being, uh, the
hardest, I would say it'sprobably about a seven, right?
Because, uh, mind you, I liveway out here in the ie, so I
drive an hour and a half to workevery day, and then coming back
, it's two hours, depending ontraffic, or two plus hours.
Shit, you go way out there, yeahyeah, I'm working, so um, and
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then when I get home he wants tohang out.
He's the only child, so he seesthat he wants to play, he wants
to, you know, just be active,and then he's also in jujitsu.
So I have to make sure I gethome in time enough to try and
take him down to jujitsu so hecan have some discipline.
And it's about a seven.
The thing I learned is withjuggling is you're always going
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to have time.
It's on you if you're going tomake the time for yourself,
right.
So I've had to learn to maketime for myself.
So sometimes I'll you know Idon't have to be to work till
nine, but I'm like I can wake upat five, get out the house by
six and still go get like a gym,go work out at the gym on base
before I have to be at work,right, like you, there's always
time, it's just depending onwhere you want to place your
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time at Right.
And then, like there'ssometimes like he'll get done
with jujitsu and thank God, youknow, powerhouse has a, has a
daycare, so like I'll be likefuck, I haven't had another
workout, or I'll go get anotherworkout after his.
So sometimes I do two days,depending on how I'm feeling.
You know what I mean.
But yeah, I mean it's about aseven.
Like I'm not, it's not superhigh, but like, yeah, there are
(15:07):
days where I'm like man, I donot want to do this.
Today I'm like dog, can youjust chill out?
Like just daddy needs a breakreal quick, you know.
But at the end of the day it'sa blessing.
You know, I have to remindmyself it's a blessing just to
have my son.
Just a short story I almostlost my son and my wife when my
son was born.
So I have to remind myself,even though he's the only child,
(15:28):
like I almost did not have theopportunity with him.
So I have to keep remindingmyself that daily.
Like OK, he just wants to playwith that you know what I mean,
so.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
So you already touched on it, but what does the
gym do for you mentally, on topof the like, like the, the, the
positive energy it sends?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
It suppresses the negative thoughts A hundred
percent, like a thousand percent.
Um, when the the and it's sad,the days I don't want to go is
when I have my best lifts, likethe days where, like myself,
talking to car, like you know,having that long drive to work,
you have a lot of self-talk andyou think about, like you know,
what you want to do, all theseother things I'm like you know,
that's like my, my meditation,right, and it's crazy.
Everybody's like how do you?
You know, when you drive towork, what do you do?
(16:13):
I was like I honestly I don'thave the radio on, that car goes
away and I just focus on thepositive.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
So what is your most embarrassing moment in the gym?
Speaker 1 (16:36):
I don't care anymore because I'm older.
I shit on myself.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Damn.
Oh my God, that was not what Iwas, oh my God.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
So, back in the early days when pre-workout used to
have everything in it.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You got to explain it to me, I understand.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I would take my pre-workout and then go to the
gym.
One time it was my wife'scousin, javi.
He was with me and I was likebro, I can't hold it.
I got to go and as we steppedin the gym I thought I was good.
I was about to run to therestroom.
Nah, I didn't even make it to alift yet.
I was like that was back whenJack 3D and everything like all
(17:18):
types of chemicals in it.
It would just run through yourbody.
But yeah, that was that'sprobably one of my most
embarrassing moments in the gym.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
Yikes.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
That's hilarious because that was literally me
yesterday.
I was on the treadmill and Isaid, nope, it took off Because
that free workout wasn't gettingthrough.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah, so yeah, yeah, that's that prayer that Jesus is
like.
Just make it please today.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
I said Lord, I got 100 feet.
I literally grabbed my phoneand left it in my bag.
If it's not there when I getback, we're about to get back.
We got to focus on this rightnow.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Yeah, but that happened probably like 10 years
ago.
Yeah, 10, 15 years ago.
Yeah, 10, 15 years ago.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
That's one of my greatest fears.
Yeah, I feel like that youshould probably, but I feel like
that's up number one.
That's one of my greatest fears, like doodling.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Hey man, you never.
I was going to say like, likesomething like a hack squat yeah
.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I've seen people where they be in the middle of a
squat and they're like, thankGod, like you see it straining
through the fucking.
Oh my God, I'd be like yo.
I'm glad it was in me and itgot on my shorts and I could
make it home and change.
But middle of a squat and yousee it just juicing.
Speaker 5 (18:38):
Like oh man, you've been home and changed and came
back.
Yeah, oh, that would have beenit for me?
Speaker 1 (18:42):
oh no, I wasn't.
I was already locked in.
I was like I'm just gonnashower, throw my shit away and
get back to see I would have hada long talk in the shower like
how you had on the car ride.
Speaker 2 (18:50):
I'd be like damn, I just yeah, you know, at a
different gym.
Yeah, a different location.
I would have went back to itbecause I got a camera, because
did anybody see you?
Speaker 1 (19:01):
Uh-huh.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
Did anybody see?
Speaker 1 (19:02):
you?
No, that's just like I said.
I was walking in, I didn't getto check in, so it was like and
Javi's like, what's going on?
I was like, hey, we got to goback to that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh yeah what setbacks have you faced as a black man
in the navy or even just tryingto get healthy?
Um?
Speaker 1 (19:24):
all right.
So in the navy, uh, you know,uh, growing up, I grew up in a
small, but I grew up in apachejunction, arizona.
I was one of probably like fiveblack people lord apache
junction yeah damn, he was outthere yeah we was out there, you
know my parents kept movingfurther for the way they were
trying to buy a house and dotheir thing whatever.
I'm not mad about that, um.
So my mom always used to tellme she was like, hey, I don't
want you and your brother to beracist like I don't fuck in my
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head.
I'm like how black people,racist like we, we've been
systemically beat up, all of our.
You know so.
When I joined the navy and Iwent to the east coast and I'm
around more black people, Iactually have been criticized of
my color because I wasn't blackenough or I wasn't.
I wasn't, you know, in the term, I wasn't niggin' I was like,
(20:08):
in my eyes where I come from,I'm like, bro, like if we
walking down the street, me andyou both gonna get chased, so
what the fuck does it matter?
You know as, but I have been inpositions also too with that
and I'm not where.
It was a struggle for me tomake rank and it's not that I
wasn't busting my ass to do whatI do.
I was like me and him do thesame thing.
If not, I do more.
(20:28):
Why is he getting?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
No, that's not your homie.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know what I'm saying.
Why is he getting this over me?
And I am going to say I'm in arate that is predominantly white
.
I'm in a.
I'm in.
I'm in a very small community.
It's called I'm a mime and um,we just made our first black
master chief in the rate and therace been around for 30 plus
years yeah, so um, it's.
(20:52):
You know, am I gonna say, isthere still like hidden racism,
all this stuff in the militaryor whatever?
I don't know.
I can't say that thereofficially is, but I've had
moments where I was like thisshit don't seem right.
You know what I mean and Idon't think it's fair.
So you know there's alsosystems in play for all this
stuff.
So you know you can't makereports and all this stuff if
you are feeling some type of way.
But yeah, I happen for certainpeople and I'm like, I'm like yo
(21:25):
, this dude does the same amountas me and how's he still
getting more?
So you know, you just kind ofyou got to cut your wins with
your losses, like, at the end ofthe day, the way I look at it,
um, I'm six, I'm fifthgeneration navy, I'm the first
in my family to retire and puton khakis that's dope you know
what I'm saying.
So so well in, at least on thealexander household, like on my
dad's, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
But I just think about racism in the military
being and I'm not thinking inthe ranking scale part of it.
It's more like it seems moreovert, like people are more
willing to be out with it,whereas like into me, when I was
doing that, it wasn't.
I didn't give a fuck becauseI'm like, well, we're all being
(22:00):
fucking racist.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
so yeah, yeah, I mean you've there's certain you
become immune to certain jokesbecause when you hear, start
hearing another race say thesame joke that you probably
would have said, you're likewhat, what is this?
Like you know what I mean.
Like you know, look like garyowen, like I do, was in the navy
, like some of the stuff he says.
You're like that's definitelysome Navy jokes.
Like you're going to say you'rein the trenches with different
(22:24):
nationalities, differentbackgrounds.
You start saying someofflandish stuff that normal
civilian people wouldn't hear.
They'd be like they want tobeat you up for it, but for us
it's normal.
It's like we out to sea orwe're in the camaraderie we done
built such a camaraderie.
We're saying some irregularshit and you just we would laugh
about.
But y'all be like yo, likey'all really like.
Y'all really talk like that's atough one yeah like to the
(22:46):
civilian.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Yeah, yeah, there's some things, stuff, and they're
like I'm like I'll probably getfired yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Like you just get on the civilians.
You can't just walk up and cutsomebody out because you're mad,
because you go get you get ridof her fire.
Like that's a normal thing inthe military.
You know what I mean?
Like if you're mad at somebody,they're gonna walk up to you
and cuss you out, but you'relike I still got a job yeah, and
then at the end of the day,everybody still come together
and then get what you had to getdone yeah, that was the that
was the coolest part to me,where I was like that
(23:13):
motherfucker's racist.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
I know it, but we gotta get this done.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
You just yeah, so what?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
projects or plans do you have in the works currently,
right now?
Well, right now, me and my boyare getting our podcast together
.
It's going to be called TwoGrumpy Gills.
Oh, I like that Based on likeNavy type stuff, but just
general, like how you guys are.
Only thing is ours is probablygoing to be more virtual,
because he's over in Bahrainright now.
(23:45):
What was the name?
Again Two Grumpy Gills, gills.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Like two fish, two Grumpy Gills.
Speaker 5 (23:48):
He was going to say put the third gill.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
There's a Grumpy Gil right here.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
The last thing is gills.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
Oh gotcha and that nigga be grumpy.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
He was and that nigga be grumpy.
I knew exactly where he wasgoing.
That's why I was looking at youlike no nigga keep it pushing.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah, so that's the guy going like that.
And then I'm trying to get mybrand off, anchored and Goated
Apparel, so I'm just trying tomake it to CPO Pride Day.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
What's the message behind that?
Speaker 1 (24:18):
So Anchored by God, Goated by Life.
That's what I thought it was.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
Oh, I like that.
I would buy a shirt right now.
Do you have a website?
Speaker 1 (24:25):
No, I just got my design down, so I'm trying to
find a vendor to at least do myfirst prints.
Motherfucker, you playing Navygames too, though Shut the fuck
up, don't play with me, youplaying.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Navy games too.
They was too anchored andgoaded by that.
I know what the chief lock isabout.
That's smart, that's smart, heyman, that's a big demographic.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
That's what I'm saying.
You got to play the game.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
You tried to leave that out.
I was like, nah, nigga, there'smore to it.
Speaker 1 (24:52):
Hey man, that's dope, I like it, I like it a lot, but
yeah, that's what I got inorder.
And then retirement like, um,I'm like I have no regrets,
anything about the military andall that.
I'm not gonna speak bad aboutit or nothing, right, but you do
get to a point where you'relike yo, it's time for the other
side, like, and I'm just atthat point, like you know, I'm
(25:13):
super humbled that I was able toput on khakis before I retire
and do all these great things.
But I'm ready to just be a dadyou know what I mean or and be a
husband and not have to like,worry about it.
Somebody's gonna call me hey,man, like, when you're in the
military, you have to understandyou're gonna adult adults and
that gets annoying after a while.
You know what I mean.
Like you really gonna have toadult adults, you know.
(25:35):
And uh, a lot of newergeneration of kids are.
It's different.
This is the way I look at it.
I have my own theory behindthis.
We have kids come in themilitary that are from the teen
mom era.
There were teens raising kidsand so, like you know, we have
to teach them certain things.
And I remember one specificstory that got me Like we had a
(25:55):
kid that he thought washingclothes was just putting his
clothes in the washer.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
And then put them in the dryer and we're like why do
you?
Speaker 1 (26:04):
why do you still smell?
Because nobody Don't do this man, you know what I'm talking
about.
Like there are just certainthings that I'm like I don't
want to have to deal with thesetype of people.
I have to tell them how toadult, because it's weird, yeah,
it is like.
So I'm just.
But like, at the end of the day, wholeheartedly, you know there
(26:25):
is pluses about the, themilitary and whole right like,
you get your gi bill, you getyour va loan, you can use that,
all that stuff to rest your life.
What do you do?
420?
It's a stepping stone in lifethat a lot of people not a lot
of people know about and they'llbe like oh, I don't want to
join the government, but I'mlike, all right, we'll just do
four years and then get a valoan the rest of your life.
Get your, get your collegedegree the rest of your life.
I'm nobody, nobody's tellingyou to do your whole lifetime,
(26:47):
but if you get your four years,you're gonna have more than most
americans got god damn right so, so des are you ready?
Speaker 4 (26:55):
oh gosh, here we.
Speaker 5 (26:56):
Okay, before you ask this question, and I become very
irritated how do you not knowthat?
How do you not even know thatyou prejudiced me?
Man, I'm beginning to thinkthat I am the only still fan.
No, that's not true, I thinkyou'll be surprised For the
people who don't know.
You just mentioned that you gotto put on khakis.
Can you explain what that is?
Speaker 1 (27:15):
So there's two ways to put on CAC is you either go
chief or you go officer?
So I personally believe you gotto be attracted in something
that you want.
I was either one to be a chiefor I want to be a warrant
officer, which is another typeof officer.
But you got to basically put onchief to make warrant Right.
(27:37):
And I want to be a bosun, whichis a bosun, which is an
extended officer rate of thebosunate rating right.
I love I'm a deck guy, I loveworking my hands, I like being
outside and stuff like that, butputting on khakis.
So I became a chief.
So you basically there is nolike hard pipeline saying this
is how you become a chief isbasically you try to achieve as
(27:59):
much as possible and submit apacket Like first you got to
take a test.
If you pass the test you getyour.
You, they call it your yourticket to the dance, right.
So once you pass a test, that'swhen you're able to submit a
package basically saying theseare all the things I've done to
be able to put on khakis as achief, right, and you submit it
(28:20):
to the chief's board, theyreview and they basically say
all right, hey, he has X, y andZ.
All his evals say X, y and Zyou can put on chief If you go
the officer route.
There's different programs youcan do to go the officer route.
Some are pre-college.
Some people you know you got alot of guys that go to what's it
(28:41):
called, not the Citadel theNavy College.
They come out of the NavyCollege and become officer.
But if you go enlisted, there'sa bunch of you got State 21.
There's programs you couldsubmit to you know after, like,
once you become first class, youtake the chief's exam.
It just makes you eligible todo an LDO board, which is
limited duty officer Like.
That's the two ways you caneither put on cat cases, either
(29:05):
via um, um, the Navy college,going to you know right after
high school, going to Navycollege and you come in as an
officer um, or you can do aprogram.
There's so many of them.
Uh, like matter of fact, my um,my wife's cousin's husband,
david, he just he Zoomed.
He made HM1 like four years andthen got picked up for officer
program.
So he's only been in the Navylike six years.
He's already an officer.
Speaker 5 (29:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
That's crazy.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
Yeah, it sounds like there's a lot that goes into it,
so congratulations on that,thank you, thank you.
Okay, I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
now we're going to see what you're gonna say you're
right, oh, you're right here wego, I'm ready?
Speaker 1 (29:39):
did you warn him?
What is?
What is this?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
I'm ready, all right, did you warn him you?
Should have we gotta startwarning it's generational people
when people watch the episodebefore they come on.
Speaker 5 (29:47):
They already know.
Then let's get, let's get.
Okay, I'm ready I'm ready.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
So we have to know what is your top five Dead or
alive MCs.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
So okay, I don't have like a number one top five.
It doesn't have to be in order.
So I'm a huge guru slash gangstar fan.
My theme song is the Moment ofTruth by Gang Star.
Next, after that we have to beTribe, Called Quest.
Speaker 2 (30:21):
Okay, I feel like that was coming.
We're on the East Coast.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
After that, de La Soul.
Okay, now, as far as West Coasthip-hop and the hip-hop I'm
into, I'd have to say the FarSide, that's dope.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
That's a new one.
I like that.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
And then I mean a lot of people sleep on them.
But I'll be honest, I do likeTech N9ne.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (30:48):
I can't be mad because I liked every artist on
your list.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
I knew it wasn't going to where you thought from
the first time.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
I knew when you said it, that first one, I said oh
yeah, we ain't going to go wherewe're at.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
She thinks Pac should be on every one Because it
doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
No, no, here's the problem Like no, the math don't
math.
I have nothing against Tupac,but I'm not, you know.
I feel like Tupac is a morehip-hop mainstream artist.
I've always more like theunderground scene, Like you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
I listen a lot Non-commercial.
You said far side.
Yeah, like you ever heard ofWarm Brew?
No, I haven't, but I'm going togo look them up.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Yeah, I like Warm Brew.
They're a West Coast artist.
Who else in the West Coast?
Speaker 5 (31:33):
that I listen to.
Did you say Warm Brew?
Yeah, they're called Warm Brew.
Hot-ass coffee?
Yeah, it's called, it's not hotit's warm.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
So you got what I'm saying.
I like more the I don't likeit's okay, it's okay.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
Your list was dope oh okay.
And it's not often I say thatand Tupac ain't on it, because
normally I act a fool, but yourlist was dope.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
No, she act a fool every time they don't mention
Tupac and and then she catch anattitude, and and that's how she
.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
She keep on passing me.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
I'll be honest with you I was like fuck you and Jeff
, I don't say Tupac, but I don'tcare, I don't care, I'm not
going to sit out here.
I mean, if you really justthink about it, Tupac was just
the East Coast holders on theWest Coast.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
He was global.
Look thank you.
Debatable.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
He was the Earth child.
Look man.
I got nothing against Tupac.
I still think he's a greatartist and all that.
But yeah, I'm more like theback packer.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
I'm a back packer.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
You had a really good day, but yeah, seriously check
out Warm Brew, check out Pac Div.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
They're West Coast artists, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
I tell everybody you like what you like, don't let
Dez influence you, it don'tmatter.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Because I'm still going to say what I said.
But you had a dope ass lips.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Don't let nobody kill Muppets in her spare time and,
honestly, if I have to, gonumber one West Coast Dom
Kennedy.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
Oh, I love Dom Kennedy.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
I just got to see him in concert.
Speaker 5 (32:58):
I love Dom Kennedy yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Dom K by far I'll ride, and Cassie.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Veggies?
Who Cassie Veggies?
I don't know that one.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
See, that's what I'm saying, I'm kidding, I listen to
.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Don yeah if you fuck with, then you've heard Cassie.
You just didn't know thatCassie Veggies was on it.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
There's another artist, oh man, I can't remember
his damn name Larry June.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Larry June fire.
Speaker 5 (33:22):
Fire Larry.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
June fire.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Larry June farts 91 smoothies.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
My shit, I think I just like Larry June the music
where I just be sitting thereand I'm like I could dance like
a fool, just bro he's so true towho he is man he's like
somebody said the realest shitever.
Speaker 1 (33:37):
I just seen a post and I was like how do you make
pouring out oranges look cool?
Larry June does it.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
Yeah man, he is dope yeah, so that's the way, vibes
yeah he's super vibey, so withthat being said, I want to thank
william wd-40.
He is now coined.
Wd-40 is dope.
Um appreciate it.
I appreciate you for being apart of this again.
(34:04):
You inspire me every time I goto the gym and see you, uh, put
up weight like it's nothing.
I mean.
Even the other day when I was,and you saw me.
Every time I go to the gym andsee you, uh, put up weight like
it's nothing.
I mean.
Even the other day when I wasand you saw me in a hack spot.
You said that looks too easy,bro up the weight.
I said god damn.
Hey, I'm gonna push you to dobetter with you, yes, so um I
appreciate the energy, the vibe,man and, like I said, you keep
(34:24):
inspiring as a black man, asjust as a dope person, man.
Um, thank you for being a partof this and shit.
You're always welcome to comeback Appreciate it and I wish
you all the best success withyour ventures, especially the
clothing line and the podcast.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Thank, you Appreciate that.
Speaker 4 (34:41):
Yes, man, I look forward to it.
I guess until next time.
Like, subscribe, comment, shareAll that shit.
Peace, peace, peace.
Speaker 5 (34:51):
This has been another episode of the Heavyweight
Podcast.
Talk your shit.
One thing about me, baby I'mshowing up every week to see who
coming to talk their shit.
Y'all better show up with me.
See you there, bye.
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