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This episode is about the influence we have just by showing up as ourselves. From quiet leadership to how we bounce back from setbacks, we unpack how our actions speak louder than anything we could say.

We talk about showing up consistently, being watched when you don’t even know it, and how that lowkey inspires others. We also dive into communication between men and women, with some personal takes and real laughs along the way.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Heavyweight Podcast.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
The message behind saying the title of the
Heavyweight Podcast is to beable to say that we can weigh in
on some heavy shit.
What we're talking about isimportant from every aspect of
it.
It's a heavy weight.
It's not just about physicalweight, but the weight of things
that can weigh our minds.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation mind.
So I think it's dope that wecan have this conversation.

(00:27):
What's good?
This is episode two or seven ofthe heavyweight podcast.
I'm your anti-social host,stutter McFly, back again with
these two guys.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Go ahead and state your name for the beautiful
people out.
It's your boy, positive Mo.
I don't know how long it'sgonna last, but that felt like
positive about that.
I felt like a struggle to getit out trying to be positive I
like it.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
It's just tough, I like it way more easy to be
negative.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
So is beef jerky would be negative.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
So is beef jerky.

Speaker 3 (01:07):
Depends on where you buy it from.
Depends on where you get itfrom.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Never get the alien jerky from a random 7-Eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
That's not alien jerky.

Speaker 3 (01:15):
It's been sitting there a while.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
It's a different kind of alien.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
It's the liquidated version.
They're trying to get rid ofthat shit.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, they got that shit.
They said we'll go ahead andship this out to you.
It's close to Vegas.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
No, that's Sergio and them.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
That's Sergio and them that's funny.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I'm just old Kev, good old Kevvy Kev, kevvy Kev.
Yeah, hey, what's up y' all?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
okay how were your?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
weeks it's good man, good week, nothing bad to report
, got through it that was PapaSmash that shit was fire.
Yeah, I gained.
I gained two pounds overnightwas it worth it.
I probably ate about 7,000calories left, and I didn't
track it.
So, Pat, I probably ate about7,000 calories less and I didn't
track it.
So Patino couldn't see BecauseI know he go what the fuck was

(02:09):
this?
I?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
didn't track shit yesterday.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
I literally lounged, so I get it.
Sorry, patino, were you at thefly lounge.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
I was just laying out .
My body was sore as fuck, so Iwas laying out.
I fucking did.
I was huffing it all day.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
I don't know, I don't know why I did.
I did the Stairmaster threedays this week and I'm
regretting it, don't.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
It works.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
My legs hurt like a motherfucker.
It works they hurt the shithurt.
One day they'll stop.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
They'll stop hurting my week.
I think my week was really good, I believe, so.
I don't think I spent a lot ofmoney, which is lovely.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
No, you did, you just did.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Nah, tomorrow, where are we going, disney?
That's going to hurt.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Overhead.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, that's going to hurt.
Going to be fun.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Remind me of that, that damn joke.
She was like mom, you look justlike Cinderella.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Before the bibbidi-bobbidi-boo I said damn,
that's fucked up how yougetting clowned by your own
daughter every time I hear thelightsabers go off in the house,
I think of the money I paid youknow what?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
you know, you're a good father.
Because I walked by them,lifesavers, I said, and I saw
the price, I said, yeah, I ain'tdoing it.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
I got three of them.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
I ain't doing it.
I said I can't do it, but I didbuy a goddamn lounge fly bag,
that shit.
That was for.
The wife Asked me how manytimes she used it like a, just
like a bag.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
yeah, like you know like a little backpack bag shit
they oh like that's a lot.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Yeah, I wasn't cheap.
Yeah, I asked me how many timesshe used it once no, it's still
in the bag so none.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
Yeah, it's still in the bag.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
You get triggered by the dream song no, just no no no
no figured out acts the crazypart is that back still smells
like beignet.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
I don't know how they do it, just put it in the.
But it's been over a year, itstill smells like beignet.

Speaker 1 (04:14):
They got the finest of oils.
No, no, you ain't.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
How was your week.
It was chill.
I went to work.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Did a broke, nigga say something.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Some broke niggas did say something and then I
proceeded to.
You know I was like, oh my God,that's why I wore this shirt
today.
Then I took an early hiatus forthe week and I had to take care
of my car and get tire rotationoil change and I saw some weird

(04:52):
activity at a roundabout, whichposted me to ask the question
because I really don't thinkpeople know how to work at a
roundabout which baffles mebecause it's like, well, they
don't about, which baffles me,because it's like, well, they
don't.

Speaker 3 (05:07):
Do you not remember when I had the bike and I was
approaching a roundabout and thelady was driving towards me on
my side of the street?
Oh wow roundabouts I said ma'am, you didn't go the right way at
all.

Speaker 2 (05:15):
What you made a left at a roundabout when you access
their hope in the world approacharound abroad it's all yield
like I don't know how peopledon't get it.
They don't comprehend it.
It's weird.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
It's the weirdest shit ever is well no, they
people don't yield, they, they,they go yeah, and then they and
they don't look.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
They refuse to look down or at the sign that says
yield in front of them.
It's like like they think it'sa suggestion.
Um, too many it is, but then Itook care of that and then, um,
I proceeded to almost get killedby my kids at the park.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
This is a story I want to hear.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
So I had, you know, being the dad I want to be, I
went and got a couple of like afootball and one of the Wolf of
Wall bats and I'm like you knowwhat, I'll take them to the park
, let them get used to somesports that I grew up playing
and you know they're bothnaturals at the sport.

(06:07):
They just didn't have thestance down, so Ava adjusted
quicker than Andreas did.
But once you give Andreasinstruction, he adjusted.
But Ava, she's got a lot ofrage, you know, just a lot of
rage.
And anytime she doesn't, whichis why I posted that video.

(06:30):
Anytime she doesn't get it,immediately she gets angry, and
that's what the fuck happened.
That's why I said that shit wasintentional.
She might have not meant todirectly aim at my head, but
when she threw the ball tryingto throw it back and she was
like fuck this.
And she threw the ball tryingto throw it back and she was
like fuck this.
And she threw it up and hit theball back, that shit, that was
real time.

(06:50):
Uh, she was mad, okay.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
So.
So when I saw the video, I hadtwo, three things happened the,
the, the friend of me laughed.
The dad of me said she probablyshould be a switch hitter
because she did she.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, I was pretty good at it, especially with one
arm, like that shit.
I said god damn it.
And then she did it again and Iposted that one too.
But I was like shit, she gotaiming when she gets angry.
There was some other shit shewas doing that I didn't post
where she was just angry.
I was like, yeah, at least shehad a way to get it out.
She was vent that I didn't postwhere she was just angry.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
I was like, yeah, at least she had a way to get it
out.
She was venting.

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Swards me.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Don't piss her off.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
It was fun doing that with them at the park and
seeing that they had this,because she got really excited
about baseball.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Go back and watch the video.
What was most the funny partabout it is when you said, oh
shit, her facial expressiondidn't change yeah, it wasn't
like oh, my bad dad.

Speaker 2 (07:52):
She was like it was, it was all smoke, she wanted
smoke.
So, uh, before we get into thequestions that were culminated
from a week that I have, I'mgoing to give you some rapid
fire questions.

Speaker 3 (08:13):
Oh no, rapid fire yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Rapid fire.
Rapid fire, y'all ready.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
Absolutely Hold on.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
You said are you ready?
And Kevin was delayed already.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Oh, I mean, you know it's the end of my work day.
I'm a little high.

Speaker 2 (08:31):
All right, all right, ready, ready.
Describe yourself in threewords Boom, that nigga Mo.

Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, you the coolest ever.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
Call me Neo.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
The one, the one, the one.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
The way I dodge that fucking move ball.
Anyway, what's the stereotypeabout men?
You wish that would disappear.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
Damn, they got rapid fire on that one Shit.

Speaker 3 (08:59):
I'll have to think about that.
That's a long list.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
We got to have guap to have worth.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
That's a good one.
Gotta have guap to have worth.
That's a good one.
I got nothing nothing.
I got nothing, nothing.
Oh that we don't care, we carethat's a good one.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
We care, we do care, we do got emotions that we have
to be super.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
What would be the word talented with our hands in
the bedroom?
No, I'm talking about like asfar as like mechanics like the
handyman skills, like that shit,that every man that just
defines men.
I was like I think that's justan add on, but I don't think it
should be like the definition ofwhat a man should be.
I could change a tire, but Igot triple a yeah, I could

(09:49):
change the tire if I needed to,but I got not only do I got true
, I got seven.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
I got uh.
I got 21 visits.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
I'm using them all so when do you, when do you feel
the most like yourself?

Speaker 1 (10:05):
post, not clarity.
When do you feel the?

Speaker 3 (10:07):
most like yourself.
Post-nut clarity.
Do you feel Never mind, oh man.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Are there some realizations that happen in that
moment?
Sometimes, yeah, always.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
Hey, it's everybody's beat up.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I was in some shit where they went.
What?

Speaker 3 (10:28):
What am I doing?

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Why.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
Have you ever had a moment in that post and that
clarity said do I even likemyself?

Speaker 1 (10:38):
I don't know about that.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
I have.
How am I doing this?
You are fucking disgusting.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
I guess that's the same lines.
That's the same lines likedelete that.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
I forgot the question after this shit.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I said when do you feel the most like yourself?

Speaker 3 (11:00):
um, when I accomplish something whenever I could, I
get in my happy pocket when Imake a, whenever I get in my
happy pocket.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
When I make a dope song, I like that.
Who's a man you admire and why?

Speaker 3 (11:16):
My grandfather.
He was silent and strong.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
He said a whole lot, without saying too much.
I don't think I have.
I think it's you gotta pick onenigga.
I can't be like my niggas.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
He said A yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
I ain't like my niggas.
I'm gonna go outside to afamous guy.
I like Barack Obama.
I really like how that guymoves.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
I really do you know who does an excellent Barack
Obama impression?
This guy.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
No, I don't.
I admire my dad and the factthat he was able to do
everything by himself and makeit work.
That's all I can say about that.
What does masculinity mean toyou?

Speaker 3 (12:23):
protecting the ones you love being yourself, being
yourself to you.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Protecting the ones you love.
Being yourself, being yourself.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Not being afraid to be yourself.
Restraint, Because you couldjust crash out.
But the fact that you're a mandoesn't mean you have to.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
You don't have to show the strength.

Speaker 2 (12:43):
to show that you're a man doesn't mean you have to
Sometimes you should, so that,masculine, you don't have to
show the strength to show thatyou that.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, sometimes you need to just crash out.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Sometimes you need to , but I'm saying that in the
moments that you don'tnecessarily need to, but you
still show that it's alsomasculine.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Yeah, a good 90% of the times you don't need to yeah
.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Because most times we see niggas crash out.
You're like yo.
This could be a simple phonecall.
When was the last time youcried eight?

Speaker 1 (13:14):
days ago, damn, I don't know.
I almost cried or something,but I don't remember what it was
so were you high?
I don't know, I was watchingsomething.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I was like, oh, that's sweet last thursday going
into friday y'all some healthyniggas no, that was not that,
that was built up.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
That was not healthy.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
That was just the moment that was just the moment,
nigga I was.
I was overwhelmed like amotherfucker.
Yeah, um, what's themisconception people have about
you?
I was overwhelmed like amotherfucker.
What's the misconception peoplehave about you?

Speaker 3 (13:50):
That I'm mean all the time.
I'm not mean all the time.
85%, it's not all the time.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
But you saw some majority of the time.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
It's not all the time .

Speaker 2 (14:02):
Majority.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
What is it?
What's the word?
I'm a floor rug.
A what?
I'm a floor rug.
You're a floor rug.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
People step on you.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yeah, they think people are walking on you.
So this is going back to theother episode where you said you
felt like niggas thought youwere sweet.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Yeah, I shouldn't have said it that way, because I
hadn't thought about it.
I was like I don't want to belike that.
So yeah, so what you're saying?

Speaker 3 (14:36):
you're not sweet.
You do the bending, thepushover, that's what it is.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
You do the bending you don't get bent over.
I mean, I don't be trying tobend nothing either, just one
person.
Bad analogy.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
I don't know how you get there.

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Wait, never mind.
Because he said one person.
I was like well, you're likefive feet taller.
What is bending?

Speaker 1 (15:03):
Yeah, you got it.
I mean, I'm not going to getinto that no, I'm a visual
person got I mean.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I'm not going to get into that.
No, I'm a visual person.
Let's not.
We don't got to get into that.
The misconception is that I'mquiet.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
You're not.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Yeah, that's the misconception that people have
about me that.
I'm quiet and I'm not.
I'm really not.
Once I start talking, I won'tshut the fuck up, but it's only
if I know you Finish thesentence A strong man is.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Need it Me, it's me, it's Kevin.
You're going to glaze yourselfall day.
Why not?
Why not?

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Calm.
Anybody got some baby oil forkevin?
You're gonna need it, that nopewhen he's alone in his room.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Sometimes he stares at the wall and then the back of
his mind hears conscience callall right, um sorry what was
that oh, that was never mind,sorry, that made it how would
you feel?

Speaker 1 (16:09):
if no.
Nigga's wife said she don'twant him watching porn, but she
don't care if he like beats offand shit.
So I'm like so you want him tolike?
Just she was bank.
Like ain't that worse.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
Like ain't that worse to go in the bank.
She wants him to beat off thepictures of her.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
Oh, Really that's what you know.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
that's what I took Of her, a video of her.
That's what I took.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
She got some videos, but Sorry, I was just thinking,
that's kind of fucked up.

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Is this personal Kevin?
No, no, no, absolutely not.
But you said she got us invideo, we just discussed.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
We just discussed what we got to delete, sorry.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I see you putting the men as last of the org.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Huh, I just thought that was fucking well, it's not
as cool as you think.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
What role does vulnerability play in your life?

Speaker 1 (17:05):
I think it's important to to be vulnerable
around the right people, so uhlike today.
Yeah, I mean I guess what, yeah, he's vulnerable right now.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
He's very vulnerable right now.
I would just say that it, uh,it's necessary for proper
emotional health.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, I think you build real connections off of it
, through it.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
Remind me never to look at that meta footage.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
The meta footage, you said, yeah, I don't want to see
it.
Oh no, I'm wise, I'm not like,yeah, no I don't do that, yeah
growth hey, pause I'll say it's,it's, it's.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
It plays a life.
Vulnerability is one of theways it helps you grow um.
What do you want your legacy tobe?

Speaker 1 (18:08):
good man.
Yeah, he's a good man, did itthe right way, yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
I want it to be that he, uh, he loved his family to
his last breath uh that I did itthe best I could what did you
do it first?
Do it first.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, like right there oh, he made it sexual.
So that rapid fire, that wasn'tthat rapid fire just finished.
Let's go ahead and get intothese shenanigans, do we have.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Do we have rapid fire clarity?

Speaker 2 (18:46):
I guess I have some clarity on some shit.
So, as I approached this week,and and mo was there, we were at
work and, um, we had aco-worker say some uh, off the
wall shit that let me know, um,oh shit like where they stood,

(19:07):
or something never mind, we'regonna take that different.
That's, that's.
Uh, yeah, I guess it falls inline, but it's just from a
different perspective.
It's gonna work two ways anyway.
This one is when you realizethat, as things are happening
and people are noticing you that, at what point do you realize
that you may or may not beinspiring people?
So when was the last timesomeone told you that?
At what point do you realizethat you may or may not be
inspiring people?
So when was the last timesomeone told you that you

(19:29):
inspired them and were yousurprised?
I'm always surprised whensomeone says I inspired now,
because that's never my goalreally I just, I'm just living
so you've never tried to inspireI, uh, I've never tried to
inspire.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
I've only tried to inspire my wife to do certain
things.
Tell this nigga tell him tostop.
We all see his TikTok, like wesee your.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
TikTok nigga.
This nigga has lethal thoughtsand he's saying he doesn't try
to inspire people.
I'm like so really Not once mylethal thoughts is just giving
people shit to think about.
It's meant to be inspiring.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
As a inspiration nigga like.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
I'm just talking.
I get what you're saying butI'm talking my shit.
If you're inspired, you'rewelcome, okay.
I mean, I wasn't, I wasn'ttrying to, but if it helps you
that day, I appreciate it.
I've actually had some peoplewho say hey, man, I need this
damn.
I said thank you, I need yoursupport.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
I appreciate you.
That was the question but I'mnot trying with that part of the
answer instead.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Of this nigga been doing this for the past.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
How many I know I'm acting surprised I'm consistent
uh, last time someone's told methey were inspired is, I
couldn't tell you.
That's's probably been a while,I don't know.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
You lying, sack of shit.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Somebody told me I inspired him.
Yeah, I did.
You told me that.
Yeah, what did I inspire youwith On July 4th?

Speaker 3 (20:53):
I inspired you.
Yeah, I said nigga, I'm aboutto go, I'm about to crack open a
smoker.
You got me out here about toput my new balances on.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
I didn't know I did that I just thought you were
just talking yourself to go cook.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Nigga, I have not used my smoker in many, many
months.
I guess July 4th to answer yourquestion.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
July 4th Happy.
Juneteenth, niggas Happy.
Juneteenth, I think it was mynephew a couple weeks ago.
He called me and told me Iinspired him.

Speaker 3 (21:26):
That was up.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
And that meant a lot to me because at that time I
really needed to hear it.
That's good yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
Can I tell you my favorite time that's happened
though Of course it was in SanDiego just some random chick.
We was out there drinking likea motherfucker and going going
to denny's at like three in themorning, so we were just talking
to people, drunk as shit, andthen somehow we just got talking
about entertainment and comedy,that I was doing comedy and
shit, and then she was like oh,I used to write, and then we

(21:55):
were just talking and she juststarted crying and she and I was
like hey, what's up like whyare you crying?
she's like you just, you're justso passionate about this and I
just I need to writing again andI was just like, oh, that's
cool, I'm glad that I coulddisplay that.
So that was my favorite.
I was like this lady just whatrace was she?

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Let me cry.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
She was like what do you call them?
That sounded racist, it's aboutto sound racist.
It's the same as she's mulatto,she's mixed.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
She was ambiguous it's the same as she's mulatto,
she's, she's mixed.
She was at least, because ifshe was white and she cried, I
would have ran no, I would haveshit I would have known I've
been watching too much.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'd have been like I'm in that, sorry, those are
the old days, those are the olddays I'll be.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
I'll be stacking centers me.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Me too.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Doing this shit.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
I told you I'd be the other twin.
All right, so do you remember amoment in where you were being
yourself and it ended upimpacting someone deeply.
I guess that's my use.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
arrogant to say Not.
If it's your truth, I thinkI'll give you another one.
It's from comedy and ever sincethat day, I feel like Homie's
been killing it Because we weredoing the show and I don't know
why the fuck he was so nervous Ithink it was his first time
hosting or some shit and I waslike, hey, nigga, are you
nervous?
He's like yeah, like I don'tknow if I can handle this.

(23:29):
I was like you do this everyday.
Like just do what you normallydo.
Like that's all I can do.
Like we're the comedians, thisis what we do, this is who I am.
That kind of like clicked in meand it was just like.
From there on, it was just like, oh, he's killing.

(23:50):
So that was like one of thosethat made me.
It makes you feel good inside.
I don't know.
I don't know how to explain it.
That's what she said.
You can't help it, huh I reallycan't.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
I forgot the question god damn I guess I'm dead.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
There's this hearing spirit shit.
Do you remember a moment whenyou were just being yourself and
it ended up impacting someonedeeply?

Speaker 3 (24:19):
no, not really.
I don't no, no, not really, Idon't no, no.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Nothing really recalls, never, no, nothing.
You know dad stories.
I mean you just be yourself.
I'm sure you impact her deeplyevery day.
That's too cliche.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
She was my ass every day.
She beat me up yesterday, yeah,but that's With a who, my ass
everything she beat me upyesterday, yeah, with a woofer
ball hey with a.
Hey, it wasn't a woofer ball,it was, it was a mini golf.
A a fuck a putter did it?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
did it hit you somewhere?
No, it hit where?

Speaker 1 (24:58):
yeah, in my leg where'd you where you think she
got that from her mom inspired?
Where do you think she got thatfrom Inspired Her mama?

Speaker 3 (25:05):
You just told us you're trying to be nice I am, I
didn't beat her ass like Iwanted to.
I had to beat her ass.
Yeah, I mean, I guess myclosest.
I guess if I go the fatherhoodroute I did I've had.
There's been a couple of timeswhere I've had like a random
lady see me like out with mydaughter.
She's like, oh, you're such agood dad.
I was like, why?
Because I'm with my kids, mykids with me, when their mom's

(25:27):
not here.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
That makes me a good dad because it's like it lets
you know how many niggas outhere aren't.

Speaker 3 (25:35):
Yeah, I was like I'm just, yeah, I'm just taking my
daughter to Five Below, likejust me and her, like we, just
we gonna run the store realquick, like this is just normal,
normal, you know, fridayactivities for her, which is
good, or, when I picked her up,no, no, what was the question?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
because I was thinking, maybe when Amanda had
surgery and I felt like that wasjust a normal question because
she's going through this shit,and then I was like, well, can
she, when, can she have Motrin?
And then she was like wow, mosthusbands don't ask that and I'm
like, oh, they just don't givea fuck about their wife, just go
Like oh, they just don't give afuck about their wife Just go.

Speaker 3 (26:15):
Let her my problem.
My wife don't listen, youshouldn't, you should.
You're depressed today?

Speaker 1 (26:20):
Nah, I can't be.
No little bitch.
Get up and walk around.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
How about you Sit your ass down?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Honestly, it's been a lot in the last six months.
Every time I wear those goddamnshoes to work.
Okay months, every time I wearthose goddamn shoes to work,
okay, and um, just kind of likewhen I I guess and and me trying
to find myself it inspiresother people and they'll
literally walk up to me and justbe like the fact that you just

(26:47):
do that and I said what they'relike, the shoes, and like you,
just kind of like you.
You kind of have your own thinggoing on and and it's unique to
you, and I said I appreciate itand it keeps continually
happening.
But it's just me being honestlysaying I'm going to do what I
like and what feels dope to meor comfortable to me and it gets

(27:07):
attention, but it's not meantto get attention.
It's just meant to say.
This is who I am and these arethe things I like.
I like these colors.
That's why I wear the shoes,it's because I like the colors
and I don't feel like we shouldever just put ourselves in a box
.
But yeah, that to wearing theshoes to the cornrows, like it,
um, it inspires people becauseyou're doing you

(27:31):
unapologetically and people kindof gravitate towards it and
then, to you know, tell you thatyou're inspiring them to want
to do them themselves.
So pause and no, don't pausethat, do yourself I just know
it's just, it's important to beyou and with me, finding me.
I do know that it helps otherpeople feel like they can do the

(27:52):
same thing, yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
You know sometimes I take that halfway backwards when
motherfuckers say stuff.
I had one guy was telling me hewas like man, I like how Kevin,
he don't give a fuck and I waslike hey, my man.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
I know what you're talking about.
I had a girl tell me that onceand I was like it's not the
compliment, you think?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
it is.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I was like don't say that, he just don't give a fuck
what he wears.
I said, hey, back up, back up,back up.
I know you think this is acolumn, but it's really not
Because you're literally talkingyeah, it's like hold up, bitch,
stop Like.
Hey, like all right.

(28:32):
So how do you stay true to yourvalues, even when you know,
even when no one else iswatching?

Speaker 1 (28:40):
for me that's easy.

Speaker 3 (28:41):
I am who I am, no matter who's in front of me even
after that post nut clarity.
Even after I was disgustedafter, but it felt good yeah,
I'll probably do it again thefact that it got me there.

Speaker 1 (28:56):
I mean, it was good for something that algorithm is
gonna bring me back to this samegenre yeah, I think that's what
it is.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
I mean, when you, when, when you like you were
just saying like when you tutoryourself and you and you do
what's for you and what makesyou happy, it doesn't matter,
you're gonna do that, matterwho's in the room yeah, I can't
keep thinking, can't stopthinking pimp shit.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Like I ain't new to this, I'm true to this bitch.
Like you ain't gotta fake itwhen the lights is off, I don't
know.
It's like you said.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
It's like if it's you , it's you, so you ain't gotta
like really think about it andwhen I think of the, the journey
to get to that point, Iremember and you were there for
some of it you know the looksniggas used to give me when I
have that nappy ass afro, ohyeah.
So like that growth thatthere's people looking at you

(29:52):
like damn, this ain't got thatafro, like they're not saying
anything, but they're looking atyou like this, look wild.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
And then eventually you hit a point to where it's
like that's why you did it, yeahbut the thing is like I'm
saying like, like you're saying,if they would have known why
you didn't cut your hair, theywould, they would, they would
have had a whole differentoutlook on it but no one ever
asked.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
That's the issue that I tend to run into.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, it's a tough one.
That's a tough one sometimesbecause some niggas are scared
to be like uh, rude I guess.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
But in a way, they're also being rude by assumption,
you know.
There's like oh, this nigga'sjust some bummy ass looking like
whatever.
Instead, instead of realizing,that look at this.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
There might be a reason why yeah yeah, yeah,
that's that bullshit there, someniggas.
Yeah, I'm learning a lot too,just talking to people.
It's cool.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
You talk to people.

Speaker 1 (30:41):
I feel like I like that I can talk to people
without judging them and shit,because then they just start
talking and then I'll just betalking and it's like do you not
hear yourself?
Just listen to this and justthink from a different
perspective.
I'm not going to judge you byhow you feel, but I'm like, oh
yeah, you know what it's like.
Yeah, you got to think out yourbox.
I'm sorry, I'm just on atangent.
I might be a little-.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
Hey, kevin, I go on TikTok every fucking day.
No one listens to themselves.
Shit, I just keep with the book.
I was like so you listened tothis over and over and said
upload, still Proof positive.

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Let me this is true.
Okay, all right, this is true.
Proof positive.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Can't argue with that point.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Have you ever looked back and realized your actions
affected someone in a way youhadn't even intended?

Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
You got an example, yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Well for one, with the help.
My daughter now says Dad, I gotto make sure I get my protein
today.
I can't eat that.
That's too many calories.
I said you don't have to worryabout calories, you're eight.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
You got metabolism.
You're eight.
It's on your side.
Youth is on your side.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
You're eight, I said if you ate what I ate, you would
be the way you move and mergeit all.
So, yeah, so, to sum it up,it's like having Chinese food.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
It's going to go right through you.
You're hungry 30 minutes later,no matter when you eat it.

Speaker 3 (32:04):
Yeah, man, yes, especially sushi.

Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think anytime I'm in like a shitty scenario not
necessarily, let's think likework, like if we got to do some
overtime shit that nobody wantsto do and it's shitty.
Like I always try to think tomyself some sort of positive
shit and try to make it likesome how fun or whatever, and
like I feel like it's not myintention to make everybody else

(32:29):
feel that way.
It's just for me, like I'm not.
If I feel this way, cool.
Y'all can feel how you want tobe miserable, but it generally
seems to be like a differentfeel when it's like one person
like that and then it seems toinfect.
So I think that in a sense kindof is my.
That would be my example tothat.

(32:49):
But yeah, I think just tryingto be positive rubs off a lot
pause uh posting that clarity um, you forgot the question,
didn't you?

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I just think about what you said.
And he said the rub that, andthen my brain just took it
somewhere else.
God damn it, I'm a latin, I'mhorrible genie.
Um, again, I said the, the,even with the shoes, especially
the shoes.
It seems like even I've had therandom lady that walk up oh, I
love the.
The shoes are so loud and theyspeak this and they'll, it's, it

(33:30):
really does change.
Uh, you're, you're notintending to, but then you'll
see, like the reactions I said,especially amongst women at
their job, they'll go damn, he'sjust wearing this and you don't
give a fuck, and it's almost.
They want us to like fierce orsome shit and do the snap or
something you like okay I'm notopposed to that, but it is, it
is dope.
It is dope.

(33:50):
It is dope to see when you seelike it affects somebody because
I'll see like they'll give likea grin and it's more like they
kind of feel like I see you,they're living it.
Yeah, I see you, but like theylike it because they like the
colors, choice or whatever, andyou're like I'm just doing this
because I like the colors, butthey'll look at it and be like
you're making a statement andyou're like, oh, I am like I
wasn't, that wasn't my intention, I just didn't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I just really like this color.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Yeah, like, but it's dope to see so.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
I think it'd throw people off.
When I tell them my favoritecolor is purple, I get it,
because I guess it's notmasculine enough Purple.
I think purple is masculine, Imean, that's whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
I say say what you will, but Barney has fucked
somebody up.
Anyway, what small acts in yourdaily life might be inspiring
others without your knowledge?

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Smiling, smiling, yeah, yeah I told you it would
get random, weird shit and itjust doesn't stop.
But that's fine, I'm not goingto stop smiling and shit.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
I think it's dope, I think when you just speak to
random people, to pass by astranger and say how you doing
oh yeah, I think sometimes thatwill.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I'm the worst in the grocery store and when I'm in a
good mood, nigga, I'll just belike oh yeah, that's what you're
going to get today.
Yeah, that shit look good.
Maybe I'll try and then justlike I guess I'm talking to this
guy in aisle five.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
I look at you like man, I'm trying to get back to
the house.
But yeah, I think peopleunderestimate how far a simple
high will go.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
How you doing yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
You know, just acknowledging someone else's
existence, it ain't got to gofar behind the high, it can just
be high and keep going.
But just the fact that youacknowledge them that day, yeah.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
I think that could take a lot of people a long way
At the gym.
There's like a network of blackmen that go to my gym.
I guess, since there's not alot of us, the ones that do,
they kind of intermingle.
So you have these instanceswhere, like for example last

(35:54):
week week, there's this guy thatalways runs on the treadmill
and he'd be running like 30, 40minutes, damn, and he, he's a
occupational therapist and hewas telling me that he saw me,
he was like man, he's like, he'slike the gains are showing,
brother, I said, huh, he's likedude, like I remember when you
first came in here.
So you lost a lot of weight,man, you lost a lot of weight.

(36:15):
You're inspiring and he's like,you know my, my, my profession.
I see a lot of people, you knowa lot of us people of color that
suffer from high blood pressureand heart disease and stuff
like that.
He's like that's why I'm inhere running a treadmill every
day.
But you, just you just makingthe act and seeing you every day
inspires me to keep doing whatI'm doing and I said that meant

(36:37):
a lot.
Um, but I didn't even know hewas.
He observed me like that.
We're just always the eitherthe solidary fist or like what's
up.
And then, like all of a sudden,he just came up to me to tell
me that and it meant a lot, andwe had like a good two or three
minute conversation and Ifinally learned his name, that
that's California.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
So shout out to Harry , shout out to Harry.
Hey, what's up?

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Yeah, I would say they watching the gym players
one place.
They watching Like, especiallywhen you become a regular.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
And they expect like, because when we took that week
off it was in Phoenix.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
It was like man what happened section of the
brotherhood.
I don't want to do that shit.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
People think I'm outgoing and shit, but I don't
want to talk to niggas.
Sometimes I'll be like I'm justat the gym.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
I mean, you know, I guess it's.
I don't know.
I haven't been to the gym so Idon't know.
I might be slightly biased.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
I do talk longer to the niggas I'll talk I try to be
polite, but I'm usuallywelcoming anyone who talks.
Yeah, that's usually like.
I'm usually zoned out to myself, but if you say something to me
, I'm going to acknowledge youin a friendly way like yeah, I'm
not I will say this on on, uh,on, on on.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
I think it was thursday and, uh, I walked in.
I was like, damn, it was one ofthem days, it was a leg day and
I was like the machine I had.
I saw it, I walked in, I neededit.
I said it's a woman, it's goingto be a wait, you know how it
is.
So I'm sitting there waitingand she walked over.
I said yeah.
I said yeah, I'm waiting.
She's like okay, I think she'slike I gotta go.
I said okay, no, don't worry,take your time.

(38:11):
Make no woman feeluncomfortable like that, so I
like I'll let her know.
Hey, I'm waiting, let me knowwhen you're done.
I'm gonna be over here, type Ido.
But I saw how much she wasmoving.
She I was like take your time,she's like you need me.
I said no, I'm gonna take allthat off.
Don't worry about me, I'm gonnatake all that.

Speaker 1 (38:27):
I'm gonna take all that off I guess, I should take
my black ass in there yeah, justdo it because'm not putting
nothing in here.
I ain't got that kind of money.

Speaker 3 (38:37):
I keep signing up for those.
Uh, I keep falling for those.
Uh, do this on the post, youmight win.
Win this.
I ain't won nothing yet.
I give it a week down andfollow at at the gym no, on
Instagram, I want to be gymequipment.
Oh no, yeah, no yeah, I'mtrying to get.
I'm trying everything I'mtrying to get for free.

Speaker 2 (38:55):
I ain't trying to pay for nothing else I will say
that there's uh, those, thoselike the women you say you're
trying not to make themcomfortable.
I go out of my way to avoidanything but like when they
they're polite to me, I'll bepolite to them.
And then I try, like I said, Itry not to make them feel
uncomfortable because they couldchange your whole allowance at

(39:15):
the gym.

Speaker 3 (39:16):
You fuck around the wrong way.
Suddenly, you're not allowed atthat gym anymore.
Your membership's canceled.
What happened?
I paid extra.

Speaker 2 (39:26):
You made somebody feel uncomfortable and now you
can't be here no more.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
That's why, when I do record my workouts, I make sure
to always.
If there's a woman next to me,I make sure I show her.
I won't record at all.
I'll make sure to always.
If there's a woman next to me,I make sure I show her.
I won't record at all.
I'll make sure I get an anglewhere she's not in it, just so
she don't feel like, yeah, I do.
If it's a guy, I don't give afuck, you're going to be in
there, I don't care.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
But if it's a woman, I do try to make a phone call
and if I accidentally get them,I crop you want me to sing.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Are you on LL today?
You on your LL shit with thetango you?

Speaker 1 (40:00):
want me to get some likes.
I'm not doing that.
I'm lying.
You're not doing what Gettinglikes?
Asking for ass to be in myphoto or my videos?

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Can I leave it in girl LL Cool Kaz, whoa, whoa
pause yeah, I don't think yougotta pause.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
That was very, that was very.
Now that was rapey, that'll getyou kicked out that was rapey.
What did you ask me, sir?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
all right.
Who in life?
Inspired, you, without eventrying, and why?

Speaker 3 (40:33):
there's it's it's gonna be generally.
There's the there's it's it'sgoing to be general editing.
There's the there's a younglady.
She's in a wheelchair and I seeher at the gym at least three.
She gets, you know, she getsdropped off in the medical, all
that.
I see her at least three, fourtimes a week and she'd be in
there getting it and I wouldlike, and she ain't here getting
it.
What fucking excuse do I haveto complain today?

(40:53):
Is she being there happytalking to people Putting in
work?
I don't know her name, I don'ttalk to her.
You know she inspires me.

Speaker 1 (41:07):
I'm going to say this this one young nigga I work
with, he's a young black guy,but he's on his shit and it cool
like to watch him and I'm like,damn, this thing's gonna, I
think he's gonna do everythinghe sets out to do and you're
like that's cool to like watch.
And it makes me like because healways talks like yeah, you're
like, you're like I'm not gonnatell you nothing because he's

(41:30):
like my lead or whatever, andI'm like, okay, but you're my
lead, nigga, like that's yourjob, like don't jeopardize your
job.
For like looking at me as likeyour elder or whatever.
But I'm like I respect that andthat's just cool.
So I'm like it makes me want todo shit the right way too.
So it's like if you're lookingat me like that and I don't want
to be a piece of shit, like youknow what I'm saying, so it's
just he don't know that, butthat's cool, like just to watch

(41:51):
that and be like yeah, it justin turn, makes me want to do
better to watching this littlenigga do what he do.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
Y'all.

Speaker 3 (42:02):
Y'all, y'all.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Oh, thank you, Y'all, y'all y'all y'all.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
I thought the nigga was riding a horse.
Y'all, y'all.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
The harder they fall.
Watch it Netflix.

Speaker 3 (42:15):
Shout out to the Rangers.
Yeah, the harder they fall,watch it netflix um.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
Shout out, jonathan mayor, rangers, yeah, shout out
that old looking nigga that'syounger than us.
I was like john mayor.
Why?
We shout out john mayor, butjonathan major um, yeah, you
guys, you guys inspired me towant to do better and um I
appreciate.
Thanks, man I appreciate that,and the reason is for one you
guys are black men.

(42:37):
But on top of that you guys aremy friends and when you guys
talk I tend to pay attention andthe moves you guys try to make
make me be like you know what.
If they can do that, I can tryto follow suit to be better.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Well, yeah, I think we got a little ecosystem going,
which is dope.
I like that.

Speaker 3 (42:56):
That's fun, yeah, if we can just get that tat pulling
on it.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
The real nigga constellation.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
That's how I feel, like y'all are at the gym.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Y'all are at the gym like we, the niggas.
But our rotation is in a rhythm.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
We on the twos and the threes.

Speaker 2 (43:20):
The twos and the fours.

Speaker 3 (43:21):
Y'all's on the twos and the threes, the twos and the
fours, y'all's on the one andthe two, from ghetto to ghetto
to backyard.
Okay, um, I will close yourhell for the hell.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
I will close your heaven for the hell of it, damn
how do you deal with thepressure of being considered a
role model?

Speaker 3 (43:32):
um, I don't.
I don't feel no pressure.
I keep doing me because I thinkI'm.
I try to make a consciouschoice every day to do what's
right by me and by those I carefor.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
So as long as I keep making the right choices, I'm
I'll be the same guy I am everyday I think I I fuck up at it
sometimes because I think someof that might be hindering to me
to not take chances on shit forfear of fucking up and looking

(44:06):
bad.
But when you grand scheme, it'slike you get more credit for
trying.
I think it depends on what thechance is.
That's true, that's true.
I don't mean like jumping out,like planes and shit.
Ain't nobody going to be like,well, at least you did it, nigga
.
Why you jump out of a plane.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
No, I get it, because sometimes it's hard to take a
chance.
When you think about because Idon't know about you guys, my
first thought is okay, if I takethis and it goes wrong, how is
it going to impact the day today?
Yeah, and if that's, if that'ssomething I don't want to
experience or don't want to putmy family through, then it's
like it's most likely going tobe a no.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah, I'm not trying to be on the curb, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:50):
The biggest pressure I have that I feel, is like
falling behind, like even withlike how I pretty much respond
to setbacks, so like whencertain things happen that are
out of your control, how do Irespond to that?
And that that's the biggestpressure, like because for me
it's like you can, you have onlyso many ways you can respond to

(45:11):
a situation, and it's like youcan crash out and just fuck up
the whole thing or you can tryto figure out the best way to
bounce back.
And that's like the hardest umthing for me, because I'll look
and I'm like fuck, like rightnow, I just like last week I
just wanted to fucking.
I I went to myself in a cornerand cried, but like I had to

(45:34):
figure out the best way of goingabout it, to not just fucking
crash out crash out.

Speaker 1 (45:40):
I was thinking about like, uh, it's easier to crash
out.
There's a, there's a bunch ofjails full of niggas there yeah,
yeah, that's very true, I thinklike, like referring to your
situation last week you talkedabout.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
When I get like that, I try to quickly shift my
mindset to just okay, let me getover the defeat, because when
something happens, you instantlyfeel defeated.
Yeah, okay, let me.
Okay.
All right, I felt sorry longenough, let me find a solution.
Let me start being proactive,because at least that way I'm
not worried, I'm not thinkingtoo heavily about what happened.
I'm thinking more so on how tofix or make better what happened

(46:18):
.
So like, don't, don't dwell toomuch in the defeat and I
eventually got there.

Speaker 2 (46:24):
It was just oof, because, especially when you,
when you feel like you're doinga lot of that shit by yourself,
you're just like, oh, but um,got back on track as far as
trying to figure out thesituation.
Stop feeling sorry for myselfin the moment.
Um shit, what advice would yougive someone who doesn't feel

(46:48):
like they're making a difference, but might be?

Speaker 3 (46:53):
I would tell them that they're making a difference
just by existing every day,because there's somebody in
their life that loves them andthat if you weren't here, you
would impact them.
So just by you being here,you're making a difference.
So start there and now makeyour existence matter to you.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, I think in general you do it more than you
know.
Most people don't know whatthey're doing.
Uh don't think about uh goodshit.
Usually when things are likegoing bad, like it's harder to
think about that, so more peoplelike dwell on that.
But um, I guess when I see that, I usually just remind people
that you do it more than youthink you are for sure.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
For sure someone's always watching I say do you to
the best of your ability and payattention to the signs around
you, because you'll you'll seethings that you don't even
realize is happening as you'redoing.
You on, like genuinely when youlook, then, like, pay attention

(47:57):
to moves you make and then lookaround and see who notices,
because when you look around,you're like you're gonna see
that the face is either affectedin a positive or negative
manner.
They're gonna look at you andbe like I see you nigga.
Or they're gonna look at youand say I like like they're
gonna have some sort and itcould be taken as them not
understanding or them hating,but that hate also lets you know

(48:17):
you're doing something righttoo.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Um wake up every day and give your haters something
else to hate on.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Yeah.
So do you think quietleadership or leading by example
can be more powerful than theoutspoken action?

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Oh, at a hundred percent, absolutely.
Words don't mean nothing ifthey don't be followed with
action.
Like you can have somebody whosays all this shit like, oh,
he's a boring leader, and you'relike, well, and they don't do
nothing.
Like, after a while somebody isgoing to notice and be like, oh
, while somebody's gonna noticeand be like, oh, you just know
how to talk.
Like I don't hear shit.
Like because you know if shithits the fan, that motherfucker
ain't gonna be there with you.
So that's how people look,that's how I look at it.

(48:54):
I'm like that's, that's the the, the rah-rah and the hoorah is
I think you just answered itopposite.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
What?
Because the question is do youthink leadership, or leading by
example, can be more powerfulthan no?

Speaker 1 (49:07):
that's what I'm saying.
I think it's way more powerful,like, to speak more than that.
No to, not to to do the action,like because people talk a lot
and it's like that don't meannothing if there's no action
behind it so you don't thinkit's more powerful than the
outspoken action what the?

Speaker 2 (49:24):
out.
It's pretty much someonetalking and and being able to or
be quiet by it, like theoutspoken yeah, the actions are
the.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
It's the same thing.
I think we're saying okay, yeah, the actions are the part that
matter, like if you're sayingstuff.
It's like the saying stuffdon't matter, but yeah, pretty
much, let your actions be yourwords for shizzle, because even
if you use the words, if there'sno action behind the words, the
words are now no longerrespected so Kobe Bryant or Tim

(49:54):
Duncan?
Both because Kobe put theaction, tim Duncan put the
action well, who's who would yourather be led by?

Speaker 3 (50:03):
I don't know, they're both they're both.
I heard that Tim was actuallyreally, really vocal just not
just not in the press, but hewould say some shit to you at
practice to piss you off yeah, Ican see that like it's he,
cause Kobe is not just.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
He wasn't just talking either.
You know what I mean.
So it's like all the shit hesaid.
He's like I did this, like Idid the work.

Speaker 3 (50:26):
It's hard to tell the nigga to shut the hell up when
he's at practice two hoursbefore you and two hours after
you he's putting the work in.
If he's telling you not puttingenough work in, you can't
complain if he's putting thework in.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
Remember that, trace McGrady, see, I set that up,
anyway.
So this is a new segment.
We're going to end this offwith a new segment.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
It's like is she feeling you, fam?
Is that the name of it?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
that's that's um.
It's a working title okay, allright.
So what might be the first signthat a woman is feeling you?
This is for the men out there Ican't answer this nigga.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
I've been with one woman so long I forgot, I guess.
I guess, if she laughed at yourjokes, apparently, that's,
that's a, that's a oh, and it'stoo much of a laugh, though,
when you're like that bitch.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
That wasn't funny.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
You're like where they do the little hair flip I
couldn't honestly tell you otherthan just generally being
weirdly interested in thingsthat you know aren't interesting
about you.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Oh my God, you find your beard that way.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
You're so smart Like I'm not that smart.
I'm not All right.
How does her body languagechange when she's feeling you?

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Oh, that you can definitely tell.
Yeah, a lot more touching,playful punches change when
she's feeling you.
Oh, that you can definitelytell yeah, a lot more touching.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
Yeah, that's you know playful punches, more relaxed,
relaxed overall that is she.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
More, I guess, like sitting down, what should be
more.
I can say that is kind of likeshe's her body language without
and she's more angled towardsyou in conversation instead of
sitting away from you oh no, she, she's.

Speaker 3 (52:14):
She's directly facing , you.

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Yeah, she's she's trying to make eye contact
pointing that energies towardsyou she might look for a
attention, uh, the occasionalgraze of the hand to try to get
or touch your, your leg or grabthat meat and that's actually
happening so I can't say no,that's not leg or grab that meat
.
That's actually happening, so Ican't say no, that's not the
case.

Speaker 1 (52:33):
Yeah, that can't no, yeah, that's the test as they
call it.

Speaker 2 (52:40):
Gotta see what they got that shit in this day and
age.
It's a come up for me, causeI'm gonna sue.
Unhand me, you wench what aresubtle for me.
Oh shit, because I'm going tosue.
Unhand me, you wench what aresubtle, low-key signs that we
often miss that mean she'sfeeling you or us as men.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
I don't know.
I miss them all the timeBecause I'm always like did she
the way that bitch was?
No, I was just talking.

Speaker 1 (53:05):
I was really good at just missing.
I would have hit a lot moretargets if I didn't.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
I've said it before here right, the one where the
girl just kept saying fuck, overand over.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
And she said it fuck so often.
I completely missed the wholetime we were walking home.
She was trying to give me ahint.
I'm pretty sure, I don't takehints.
I don't take hints, well at all.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
I'm bad at that shit.
I'm pretty sure bad as thatshit, pretty sure.
Some girl said some shit thatwas like I probably shouldn't
have taken that as a joke.
But yeah, I think there was abunch of us and they was talking
about trying to hit and she waslike I'll probably fuck that
guy and I was just like me, moi.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Moi Do tell Hmm.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
That's not a sign.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
That was an open invitation, that's alley-oop
that's alley-oop.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
That's a lob right there.

Speaker 2 (53:54):
You gotta finish that oh yeah, you're not a shooter,
huh um, if she texts backquickly but keeps it short, is
it that she's into you or justpolite?

Speaker 3 (54:08):
oh well, nigga she could just be responsible.
I don't know.
Again, I'm going to say youknow?

Speaker 2 (54:14):
On the flip side.
If she doesn't text backquickly, does that mean the
opposite?

Speaker 3 (54:18):
She could just be busy.

Speaker 2 (54:21):
If she never texts back.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
She ain't for you.
I think she don't want to talkto you, all right.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
Does she initiate conversations or hangouts?

Speaker 3 (54:32):
If she initiated she like she she coming yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
Yeah, yeah, I can agree to that.
That's for sure.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Cause that would be mad.
Odd, if you're like, so youwant to hang out.
You didn't like me, but youkept trying to hang out.
I ain't rich.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
So out.
I ain't rich, so you suck too,Especially if she's inviting you
to non-group activities.
She's for you, yeah she's foryou.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
Or in the beginning they'll be.
What if she's playfullyroasting or teasing you?
Is that a green flag or afriend zone alert?

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I think that's a green flag.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
Huh.

Speaker 3 (55:06):
I think that's a green flag.

Speaker 2 (55:07):
What if you roast her back?

Speaker 3 (55:09):
She might not like what I say.
She might not like what I say.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
It goes from you're being in the green flag to the
friend zone, like fuck thisnigga.
You're like, oh, so it was toomuch.
That joke was too much.
Okay.
How do you tell the differencebetween flirtation and
friendliness?
I think, men have a hard timewith that one.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think sometimes it gets played all
weird shit too.

Speaker 3 (55:40):
Some dudes think, just because she polite, she
flirting, she just being polite.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
Yeah, you should be able to do that.
Niggas have a hard time withthis.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
That part, you should be able to tell.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
I've had a few friends that tell me hey, man,
you know, I said nigga, I thinkshe's just friendly.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Oh my gosh.
She said thank you twice.

Speaker 2 (55:54):
Yeah, I'm going to send her a dick pic.

Speaker 3 (55:55):
Don't, don't, don't.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
She brought some extra breadsticks.
Bro, you're like that's her jobshe said thanks, hun.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Nah, she said it differently, though it was like
directed directly at me.
Nah, nigga, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
I guess you would have to try to know that person,
to know those things, causesome people talk a certain way
and they're not flirting at all.
Some people take that as acertain way, but it's like, well
, she says that to everyone,brother, like hello love, and
you're like she calls everyonelove don't.

Speaker 3 (56:27):
I will say I am guilty that I, if you are
attractive, I will speak to youdifferently.
I'm guilty of that If I findyou attractive, if I find you
attractive.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
I stay the fuck away from you.
That's what you do.
Huh what, I stay clear, Justtalk differently.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I have a lot more patience with you.
That's not right.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
I know I just stay clear because.
I don't want, no problems.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
But it is what it is.
That's why they get away withall that shit Pretty privilege.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Yeah, if she brings you around her friends, is that
a sign that she's serious orjust flexing?

Speaker 3 (57:02):
She could just bring you around so they can see who
the fuck she's been talkingabout.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
That's the test that might be a test.
Hey, tell me if you see, am Imissing something?
Am I missing something?
Because he might be crazy, justlet me know.
But that's the.
It's probably the.
I think I like him, but I'm notsure.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Or it could be the nigga.
She was roasting in that groupchat and they just wanted to see
if it was in person.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I guess you find out if you meet him again.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
It's like they take that and say fellas, whatever
you do, do not go into yourgirl's group chat, because they
flaming your ass or somebody youknow.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Yeah, that's probably a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
Yeah, keep that.
Yeah, don't go into my siblinggroup chat, it'll be flaming
y'all.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
What does it mean when she remembers the small
details about you?

Speaker 3 (57:50):
She's into you If she's remembering small things.
Yeah, yeah, hopefully, If she'slike yeah, I remember that your
favorite point was .51 onKobe's 81-point game.
Damn bitch, You're crazy.
I'm gonna have to exit thestage.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
I say I agree with all that only if the small
detail isn't just the size ofyour penis I don't know how you
should.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
You should phrase that different.

Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, like small detail, then now yeah, that's
what I'm saying, like if she wasjust like the only thing she
remembers that she had a smalldick.
I don't think that's becauseshe likes you, bro yeah, yeah,
I'm giving all I got, yeah butif ever, if it's everything else
, then yes, I agree.
If it's small details, likeabout the way you laugh or weird
things about you, quirky thingsthat no one else noticed, and

(58:38):
she notices it, yeah she's intoyou.
But yeah, if it's just that.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Unless you got money, then you got to do a little
more research.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
None of this matters.

Speaker 1 (58:54):
That's true If there's money's money involved.
Yes, you might just be settingyou up for something you might
have a sniper on your hands,drea she laughs at all my jokes,
like yeah, yeah, of course yougot a porsche so as we continue.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
If she makes time for you when she's busy, is that a
confirmation that she's feelingyou?

Speaker 3 (59:15):
That's a confirmation that she sees a future with you
.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Yeah, people don't make time for people, that they
don't give a fuck about.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
She sees a possible future with you.

Speaker 1 (59:23):
How they gonna do that, like what girl does, that
Does what?

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Makes time for her.

Speaker 3 (59:30):
I was asking questions your wife don't make
time for you never.

Speaker 1 (59:32):
No, you know, I'm saying if they don't give a fuck
about you.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Oh, did your wife give a fuck about you.

Speaker 1 (59:37):
I was getting I was getting my nails done.
You're like ah, bitch youcould've.

Speaker 3 (59:41):
You could've invited me bitch no, for real, though,
invite me.
I like getting my nails donetoo.
That shit's comfortable.
That shit's my nose done too,that's just gonna be closing.

Speaker 2 (59:48):
Yeah, that's cute, give me a pedicure real quick,
some cute.
I do think there's uh some sortof credit to saying, like, if
she's willing to make the time,yes, then yeah if she's really
trying to go out of her way toto move some things around if
she sacrificed sleep for you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
She love you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
Yeah, tell you that right now how does her level of
physical touch factor if intoknowing if she's down?

Speaker 1 (01:00:11):
don't touch me too much oh yeah, she grabs the meat
.
You know it's time, it's, she'sdtf.

Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Yeah, we in, unless you grab your mingos yeah,
that's a bad time damn well thatis a bad time, you wanna go
raising canes or something herwhole energy and shifts some
chicken strips like oh, littlebuddy, let's get you a happy

(01:00:40):
meal.
I'll even buy it, I'll buy itdo you need a ride?
You have a handicap.
No, I, no, I don't.
What are you talking about?
What is this?
All right, uh, uh, all right.

(01:01:03):
How does her level of physicaltouch factor into knowing?
All right, just start that, uh,what do you know?
When she starts using the welanguage?

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Does she tell you nigga Like you make this shit
official?

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Oh yeah, it depends, on what the we is.

Speaker 3 (01:01:18):
She ain't French, nigga.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Alright, when should you back off versus lean in more
?

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
First sign of crazy back off.
See first sign of crazy backoff see second sign what's the?

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
so glad I'm out the game like that what's the clear
sign that she's not into you,even if she's being nice?

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
she's everything short you.
Even if she's being nice,everything's short and cordial.
Sometimes people can confusecordial with being into you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:58):
You were talking to somebody, man.
It just sounds fucked up outthere.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
It really does In the dating world.

Speaker 1 (01:02:05):
I'm just like what'd you say?
Oh, wow, that's awful.

Speaker 2 (01:02:08):
This is what you guys got to deal with now, like hey,
man, that's why I'll park inthe same rv spot so last
question have you ever thoughtshe was feeling you and you were
so wrong, and what were thesigns that you misread?
The damn dog bit me excuse me,oh, I don't woman.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Oh, it's not a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
All of the signs we said before, misread them all
Every single one.

Speaker 2 (01:02:36):
You don't have a story.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Nah, I'm not telling none of those that was the whole
point of the last one.
It was a story I ain't tellingthe misses.
Brother Just swung and missed.
It's a long miss too.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
I'm going to see if I have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
You think I spent money.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Have a story?
Let's see.
Oh, I spent money to miss.
You can answer while I think ofa story.

Speaker 3 (01:02:59):
I don't have a story.
Yeah, this motherfucker beenlocked up for a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:03:03):
Yeah, like he ain't, you don't have one story 24
years.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
There's a story in there somewhere, even if it's
with the woman, because youcould have misread a situation
when you're recording.

Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Oh, I take everything that's sexual, so I misread a
lot of them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
I think I'll say it doesn't look good with me having
this cup.
I remember going on a date withthis girl about to be a doctor
and like each day we went andhad some drinks.
And then she's like, yeah, nah,like I don't like you, like you
drink a little too much for meand I was like bitch, you were
the one like ordering shots oftequila and shit, like I don't

(01:03:43):
know what I misread, but maybeshe was recovering and like I
didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
Maybe she wanted you to refuse the drinks.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, but it was.
I was like a glass of wine, Ithink, on the first date and
then the next one.
It was like at some club andthen she was like, yeah, let's
get tequila shots.
And I was like, oh, I'm down,but you did this, so I missed
something somewhere.
You did this, so I missedsomething.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Somewhere.
Two stories of being on theopposite end, where they misread
it completely and thought itmeant something, when I was just
being friendly.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
I got a couple of those.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Like I had the one where I was asking if she was
going to I think it was one ofbuck's parties and I asked the
question and the question wastucking as like oh well, I'm not
into you, I just look at you asa friend.
I said, bitch, I wasn't.
I don't look at you that way, Iwas just asking the question.

(01:04:46):
Glad we're on the same pagelike but I could tell she's like
oh, you're just like, you'rejust trying to save face.
No bitch, I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
I wasn't looking at you in that way, I was just
asking if you were going to thesame function and you just
happen to take that as oh he'syeah, sorry no, I know that I've
never known that feeling, thatone's funny, that one is
hilarious, and it feels weird,because it was one of the things
where you're like, okay, no,you're just trying to save that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
No, I'm not, I'm not.
I'm not really trying to saveface and, being honest with you,
you was just wrong.
Yeah, yeah, it was more like aflattering to your ego than it
was to actually get in thesituation right.
Um, and then another one was uh, it was a, a girl I went to
high school with.
We were chatting on aim, this ishow long ago that was aim and I

(01:05:37):
asked her a question because Iwas trying to catch up because I
hadn't seen her in years, andthen it turned into some shit
where she was like, oh my god,you're, you're trying to get
with me and I'm not interested.
I don't look at you that wayand I said, bitch, I was just
trying to get to know how you'vebeen.
I'm not interested in a chick,and no offense to a woman with
kids out there, but she had likefour kids and we were only 18.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
God, damn what the hell.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
She was getting paid.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
So at that time I was like trust me, I'm not
interested in you in that way.
It's literally just catching up, because I haven't seen you
since freshman year high school.
So oh yeah oh okay, and it'salways that all you're trying to
say face up, really not yougotta pick a struggle.
You can't have four kids and bemean and be mean, especially
like I said I'm 18 at the time.

(01:06:21):
I have no kids.
What the fuck do you think?
No, no, like I said, no offenseto women with kids.
I'm just saying at that time,you have four kids, I'm 18 and
you're like, oh, that's a stonedick at me you know I got
nothing wrong with women.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
I'll tell you what one with the kid every day I
just feel like I might beprejudging, but I have a feeling
there was four kids and nodaddy's around.

Speaker 3 (01:06:43):
Yeah, and she was bitter yeah, yeah yeah, you're
correct.

Speaker 2 (01:06:48):
You're correcting that assumption're correct in
that assumption.

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Sucks Can't be bitter at 18.

Speaker 3 (01:06:51):
That sucks, imagine what she's like now at 40.

Speaker 2 (01:06:58):
Liberated her kids is her age, bitter sayon.
Folly free.
Those are the homies, bittersayon.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
But, with that being said, this has been episode 207
of the heavyweight podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
We thank you for rocking with us.
Yes, is not here at the moment,but she will be back.
She'll be back like, subscribe,share and comment we docking
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We love you.

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