September 2, 2025 • 30 mins
What does it take to go from weekend DIYer to HGTV star? Shannon Evans breaks down her remarkable journey and shows us that construction isn't just for those who grew up with a hammer in hand.
Shannon's story begins with a bold move—reaching out to host Chris Kirby and traveling to his Alabama construction sites to learn hands-on building techniques before her television debut. This willingness to seek knowledge and put herself in unfamiliar environments set the foundation for her success. "I knew if I was going to learn the best ways to do it because I knew the platform would be seen by millions, I didn't want to build something incorrectly," Shannon explains, revealing the thoughtful preparation behind her seemingly overnight success.
Her relationship with Ryobi Tools marks another pivotal chapter in her story. As the approachable face of the brand, Shannon found her niche making construction accessible to beginners. This partnership didn't just build her credibility—it aligned perfectly with her mission to demystify building for everyday people. The conversation explores how affordable, user-friendly tools are gateway experiences for those intimidated by construction, with Shannon and Chris agreeing that Ryobi fills a crucial market need.
Now the only female builder on HGTV's "Renovation Resort Showdown" and a build producer for "Rock the Block," Shannon isn't content just breaking barriers—she's determined to hold the door open for others. "Instead of saying 'Hey, I'm the first female,' I want to be like 'Hey, I don't want to be the last. There's room here,'" she shares passionately. Her upcoming speaking tour at home shows across North America aims to inspire more diversity in construction while advocating for making and building as creative outlets that deserve respect as first-choice careers.
Whether you're curious about pathways into construction, wondering how television renovation shows really work, or simply looking for inspiration to tackle your own projects, Shannon's authentic enthusiasm and practical wisdom make this conversation a must-listen for makers and dreamers alike.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Home Building and Remodeling Show.
Let's go.
Welcome everybody to the HomeBuilding and Remodeling Show.
My name is Chris Kirby and I'llbe your host.
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I am the owner of threeconstruction companies on the
Alabama Gov Post.
The show is about residentialconstruction.
We're going to cover topics ofhome building and remodeling.
Are you thinking of doing aremodel or building a home?
Are you a contractor looking toimprove your knowledge base or
grow your business?
Have you ever done a remodelproject or built a home?
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There were so many things youwish you knew or that you could
have done differently during theprocess.
Then this show is for you.
We break down the process ofbuilding and remodeling and how
to have the best results duringyour project.
Whether you're a DIYer lookingfor tips, someone looking to
hire a contractor to do aproject, or a contractor looking
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to expand your knowledge baseor your business, welcome aboard
.
Glad to have you, stay tuned.
Welcome everybody to this week'sepisode.
We are going to have DIY expertslash maker, slash builder,
slash mother, slash wife.
Shannon Evans joined us thisweek on the show.
She's going to be talking allthings HGTV Renovation Resort,
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her path that led to her beingon the show, just a lot of
different things that we couldtap into with Shannon Ryobi
Ryobi, as I call it.
Ryobi we're going to be tappinginto some of that stuff with
her and just talking about herjourney, let her share her story
with you.
With her, and just talkingabout her journey, let her share
her story with you, listen tohow it felt being the only
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female builder on RenovationResort If there was any.
You know anything she learnedfrom that and then opportunities
in the future as she movesforward and looks to further her
passion and her journey in theDIY world and in our world of
home building, remodeling andinterior design, and just share
the love that she has for ourindustry.
And then hopefully, you outthere can glean information from
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her.
You're able to pick up bits ofknowledge and enjoy listening to
her journey, listening to herbackground, her experience, some
of the turmoil that's come withbeing a female builder and some
of the things that she's had toovercome, or some of the
exciting things in her journeyas well that led her to be where
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she's at.
I truly have enjoyed therelationship that I've had with
Shannon.
She was someone who came downand actually hung out with us.
She took time to go to some ofour job sites.
For those of you who are justlistening for the first time,
who have never listened, my nameis Chris Kirby.
I own a couple of constructioncompanies here on the Alabama
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Gulf Coast and we focus onremodeling in one company,
remodeling home additions, andthen in the other company we
build custom homes and Shannonwas able to come down and learn
at our office, at our workshop,and just embrace and learn with
us real day-to-day stuff that wego through and some of the
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stuff that she learned from usand she was able to use on her
journey and her successfuljourney on HGTV and now what
she'll be doing at speaking atfuture home shows.
So if you're at a builder showor a home show, you're very
likely to see Shannon in thefuture.
I'm beyond blessed to call hera friend.
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She is an advocate for women inconstruction as well, as follows
that path and that journey ofbeing hands-on in the world of
construction, actually makingthings and then sharing that
part of her life with us for allof us to see, which can be
scary, but she does it and Iencourage you to do the same
thing If you have your own DIYjourney, if you have your own
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building journey?
If you have, you know your ownremodeling journey and would
love to share your story.
Tell us a little bit about whoyou are and how you got where
you are, and share.
Don't be afraid to share someof the bad stuff.
A lot of us are hesitant to dothat, but it's a part of our
success and a part of our storythat has made us successful, and
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sharing those experiences aswell may help out our fellow
home builders, remodelers,interior designers and people in
the construction industry.
So again, stay tuned forShannon's story.
She's going to be on the nexttwo episodes and then, after her
, I'm excited to announce wehave Sarah Trapp.
She's going to be on the nexttwo episodes and then, after her
, I'm excited to announce wehave Sarah Trupp.
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She's been on Flea Market Flip.
She is the owner of Fun Cycledand she as well is a woman in
construction who also isactually doing the work and is
out there every day with us onher own journey, and she's got
an exciting few episodes with uswhere she sits down and shares
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her story.
And just in the introduction Ilook let me get you pumped up
just in our introductory callwhere I got to know Sarah.
We could have sat there forhours talking because she's that
relatable, her story is thatrelatable, her journey is that
exciting, and she's excited toshare the knowledge and
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information that she hasconcerning AI, concerning
historic flips, concerning beinga woman in construction all of
that type of stuff she's goingto share with us.
So tune in and I look forwardto sharing more stories, more
builders, more remodelers, moreinterior designers as we move
forward.
And if you know of anyone whowould like to come on the show
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or that you think would be agood fit for the show to get
their message, their story,their journey out there, please
have them email us atthehomebuildingshowatgmailcom
Again, thehomebuildingshowatgmailcom and we'll get them
booked and you can listen totheir story.
So stay tuned.
Shannon is a blast.
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We had a lot of fun.
Hope you enjoy.
Welcome to Shop Talk, thesegment where we bring in a
co-host or special guest andjust chop it up about
homebuilding, remodeling and DIY.
This is where stories getshared, lessons get learned and
we dive into the real side ofthe craft straight from the
people living it every day.
Welcome everybody to thisweek's episode of the Home
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Building and Remodeling Show.
I have with me a special guest.
She's an all-star and reallyhas a lot of momentum.
Her name is Shannon Evans.
Shannon, how are you?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Hi, thank you for having me.
This is exciting, of course.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, it was a no-brainer for me to bring you
on.
We met a little over a year agojust by you reaching out and
wanting to come and hang out andvisit.
And then another reason that Iwanted to have you on was
because you actually came here,hung out with us for a couple of
days and then you took thisinformation and knowledge and
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basically now you're sharing itwith the world.
So do you want to tell us alittle bit about how?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Thank you for being so willing to share with me and
taking that risk of saying, yeah, we'll show her how to do
everything.
Yeah, it came down to Biloxi,right?
Is that the town?
No, alabama, I don't rememberwhat town it was.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's okay, we're close enough to Biloxi.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh no, town People I didn't know Went to meet a bunch
of people I didn't know.
But yeah, it was so great Atthe time.
I had known that we would befilming for our show and I,
luckily, was able to connectwith you and I knew if I was
going to learn the best ways todo it, because I knew the
platform would be seen bymillions and I didn't want to go
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in and build somethingincorrectly or get torn up for
maybe something that I couldhave done better.
So I knew that that would besomething that you and I could
connect on, and sure enough wedid.
You taught me something inalmost every project that you
see on TV.
I mean, most of them were donethrough something I learned from
you and so, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
It was really fun and also so one of the cool things
is, as soon as you left, youalso, like, had a viral video
that you had filmed of Jeremiahdoing the bucket Right.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, what is that?
Like millions Crazy.
Yeah, like millions for soakingthe tile, and it's funny
because tiling is one of thosethings that there were so many
people with so many opinions.
But for the most part it's likea supportive community.
When you start to post thingsabout tips and tricks, it's like
no, I like it when people aremore likely to say like here's
why I do it or here's why Idon't, rather than being like
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that's a stupid idea.
But either way, it went viral.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
We get that we do so many how-tos that every video
has 50 different people with 50different ways that they could
have done it better.
Well, could have done it better.
That is also the beauty of whatwe do, because a lot of times
what people don't realize is wego back and read those and the
ones that are worth reading.
We do and and we actually willput some of that into into
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practice.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Absolutely.
I mean, I learned a lot.
It's how I learned.
It was like at the time, likeeven just finding you guys and
the strength that you had withwhat you were teaching people
and what you were so well versedin, and it was like, oh my gosh
, this would be great to be ableto learn from someone who you
don't just do, you do becauseyou understand why.
And that was like, again, thatwas the most important thing for
me.
I didn't want to just do it onTV, I wanted to be able to say
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like, oh, I'm doing it this waybecause or I'm doing it this way
because of the followingreasons or this makes sense
because of this way, because Iwas afraid people would
challenge that on this platform.
It's like they did in the, youknow, in the video.
It's like, if they startchallenging me, I wanted a leg
to stand on and you gave me that, because I was like no,
actually this is why I'm doingit this way.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I just thought it was so cool that you just kind of
reached out, messaged me andwhatever, and was like, hey, I
would love to come down.
And then I was like, well, sure, come on down.
And you did it, because we geta lot of people that do that.
We get a lot of people that arewhere's this training?
And they don't realize thatthis is our office space and the
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stuff that we show we'reactually doing for work.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, this is our everyday life.
You know, I think it was sounique, even though even when
the Uber driver was taking me,he's like where are you going?
I'm like I don't really knowthese people and I know it's out
in the middle of nowhere.
I mean, you know we're going tothis building, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I'm hoping these guys aren't going to kill me, but
like just the way that you walkinto your space and it's, you
would just listen and watchinstead of being like the pro
and that's kind of our, you know, when we talk to each other and
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we do a lot of training here,and the reason that we do that
and why it's so important in ourindustry is because product and
technology change so much, soyou may learn something and then
six months later there's a newway, there's a better way
quicker, faster, more efficientand that's what it's all about.
So we never try to boxourselves in to one way, so
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we're my whole team has embracedlearning as a part of our
culture.
Yeah, you know, we are alearning company.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You can see that that is very clear when you walk in
there.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So let's get to some of the questions I have for you.
So where are you based out of?
Let's start there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Sure, sure, I'm based in well, I see Charlotte, north
Carolina, because I live in theCarolinas.
We border north and south, likeI can walk over the border
right now, in three minutes,right so, in the Carolinas, and
our city is Charlotte, becausethat's where we are, but we're
actually in South Carolina.
So I'm based in, like, when youwatch the show, it's Charlotte,
north Carolina.
It's just the closest big cityfor me, but I'm based in the
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Carolinas.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Got you and one of the other cool things about you
was not just that you were doingthis stuff.
I had watched some of the Ryobistuff, so you've done some
Ryobi stuff.
Let's jump over to the Ryobistuff.
So another important part ofyour story and journey that I
had noticed was that you weredoing some videos and different
things for Ryobi.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthat?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Absolutely.
Ryobi and I had connected yearsago, a couple of years ago, and
at the time, just likeeverything, like we had just
come out of COVID and peoplewere really into projects.
There was a lot of weekendwarriors, if you will coming up,
more people willing to dothings, because when you're
locked in your home for a longtime, I suppose that's when you
start getting really, reallyantsy with your hands.
So people were doing a lot ofnew stuff and I think they were
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going through a phase where theyknew they wanted a face to some
of their videos and some oftheir product descriptions and
videos on YouTube and all ofthese things they were doing of
someone that was moreapproachable for what they were
looking to sell.
And so we connected on thatlevel and our missions kind of
lined up.
I wasn't out there being like Iknow everything and I'm a bad
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builder and I'm really great.
It's like hey, I'm a DIYer, Ilove doing this stuff.
I want to explain to people andempower people to do it and I
also want to come across reallyapproachable.
So if people meet me on thestreets and say, hey, you're the
real B girl, I can give themtips and they know they can ask
for that Right.
Um, so it's funny because thatthat really catapulted for me a
confidence in like saying youknow what I do have credibility
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If a company as big as Ryobi iswilling to say I'm going to slap
your face on our products andput them out there.
Like if you go to the HomeDepot app and you're searching
for a Ryobi tool, my face comesup Like how cool is that?
Just be throwing yourself outthere if you don't feel.
I mean, it was just such areally just a wild experience to
get into that with them.
And then, of course, thatturned into more people being
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like well, ok, now it was almostlike a circle of I got
credibility from them, but thenthey, I got credibility from
that and they get credibility.
It just kind of went in thiscircle of like wait a minute, I
love these tools, I do loveusing them, I do love what
they're teaching other peopleand the ease of using them made
me able to say to people oh,you're just starting, here's
some really great beginner tools, and I knew I was giving them
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something they can manage.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So I'm glad you hit on that piece and that's kind of
why, you know, I wanted to askyou about it because you know I
did a tool brand vote the otherday and I wanted to throw.
I say Ryobi, I know I'm saying,I'm saying it's Ryobi.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
All right, so we'll stick with RYOBI, but so you
know, for beginner, okay, theyare very affordable and their
connections right, thedisconnect and the batteries and
being able to swap, I mean theyhave streamlined that to make
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it to where you can use the samebattery on multiple tools.
And affordability when you'refirst starting out as a
contractor is it's veryimportant when you're building
up.
So you build up over time yourtools, the amount of tools you
have, you get bigger tools, youget better tools.
But in my opinion you cannotbeat the quality that Ryobi and
we still have a ton of Ryobistuff the quality that they give
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you at that definitely thebeginner level and again they're
building up their brand andtheir quality of tool, I think
can compete with some of thoseother brands, even beyond
beginner.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And they own TTI Electronics.
Tti owns other brands too TTIElectronic they own.
Tti owns other brands too.
So it's like when you look at acompany that strong and saying
there's a need for tools thataren't intimidating, I always
they're very approachable,they're very user friendly, love
that you know.
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And seeing, even doing the showlike I only used RYOBI on the
show purposely, like I'm notgoing to water myself down as a
brand and saying this is what Iuse, and then someone tunes in
on TV and sees me usingsomething else.
It's funny I have this.
They just sent me these hugeboxes of like this and it's like
everything you need to start.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, we've bought a couple.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, it's like so helpful because it's just one
box of everything that anyonewould need to start.
How many companies can say thatthey do that and that ease of
that price point?
I don't know.
I love them, they're just great.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, you cannot beat that and, to be quite frank,
like even watching some of thestuff that you that you do on
your pages, right, made byShannon Evans.
Yeah, on Instagram.
Please go check it out.
You do some fun stuff.
I love watching you on yourpages.
Has there been something thatyou haven't been able to do as
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far as you know?
I need a better saw or anything, right?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
No, and if I do it, just tell them I need it.
Right Like they make it.
It's just a matter of what I'mdoing, but there's a tool for
everything.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, everything that you know got you learning about
tools.
It put your face on camera andit made you more comfortable in
doing the stuff that you'redoing.
And now you're out there.
You have your own pages andInsta and Facebook and different
things.
But now this leads us into kindof what you're doing now, which
you know you hinted on andcouldn't talk much about when
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you were here for obviousreasons, but I love watching you
on there and one of theimportant parts is that you're
the only female builder on theshow right now.
Right, I love the pink coverallrocking it out.
And what's the name of the show?
A Renovation Resort Showdown onHGTV Got it, and how was that
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experience for you?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's a big I mean it's a never ending answer to
that question of how thatexperience was.
It was something that Idefinitely knew was going to be
part of my journey.
I never questioned that thatwouldn't happen.
I just wasn't sure when or how,but I knew it was coming and I
kind of took the steps to kindof plant those seeds.
Even coming down to see youguys was part of that
manifestation, of saying this isone of the steps.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You love that word you have always used, that you
have to manifest these things.
You've got me saying thatsometimes.
And and believe in.
You got me believing in stuff.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
If you can picture it and think about it in a way
that it's going to happen inyour life.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
it's going to happen If you speak about more than
that, though, right.
So since that that journey,you've done some other stuff
with HGTV as well.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I did I 2025, which we're in right Gosh, I don't
even know what year it is.
I've done three shows, two ofthem on hgtv, one of them on the
roku channel and it was funnybecause I came out of filming.
We filmed in toronto, canada,for the whole summer, so I was
gone june to like october and wefilmed this entire eight
episodes that you're watchingnow, which air they're airing
right now.
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Once that was over, I was homefor I don't very long, just long
enough to be like what my headwas started on, not spin and I
got a call from one of um.
It was a.
It was the producer for rockthe block who owns a connection
company that puts on rock theblock, and she had been a friend
of mine because she was part ofmy journey of mentorship and
she said, hey, we need a builderin one of the homes on rock the
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block and I was like say nomore.
I was on a red-eye flight thenext night going out to Utah and
I arrived at the house and Iworked Rock the Block for that
season.
I was in Kamahai and Tristan'shouse.
They have this show calledRenovation Aloha on HGTV
Wonderful couple.
They do Hawaiian homes so Iworked with them and I was their
build producer, whichessentially meant I was making
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sure that I was building andfinishing all the projects with
the builders and making sureeverything was going smooth.
So I was like I had just comeoff from the camera side of
things and I had a buildproducer on the show, right Like
I had that person for my show.
So now you have the experience,and then I flipped it and I
knew exactly how to do that role, because I just had that role
and I was like I would be, soyou know what.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What's funny about it , though and I love doing the
show and I love doing what I do,and I put myself out there and
get beat up all the time fordifferent stuff I would be so
nervous, no matter how.
I've been building houses foryears and doing renovations and
remodeling for years, and Iwould still be so nervous to do
that.
But, not only do you do thingslike that, shannon, but you own
it as a builder, and I love that.
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I love that side.
You are not scared to putyourself out there, and it's
becoming more and more common tosee women in construction.
You know, and it's just anatural part of what we're
seeing Right this month is abouton the show.
We have a lot of female guestscoming on and there's really not
much that's off limits, becauseit's just another natural
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conversation about building andI love that.
You know you definitely.
Now you've worked with thedesign side, you've got the eye
for that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, right, yeah, I do, I try.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm so creative.
The one thing that you weredoing here, you know, and my
team still jokes about itthey're like she loves arches.
Like she loves arches.
What is going on with thearches, you know, and we did a
couple of videos like how tobuild arches.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Listen you guys taught me how to build arches
because you guys taught me howto do arches.
I learned it from watching you,dad Right Like that's the guy.
I learned it from you.
He's taught me to love archesbecause the reason I love arches
is because I know how easy theyare for people to put them in
their homes.
And an arch and you think, wow,that is fantastic, what an
element, what a beautifulstatement to have an arch, but
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it's so easy to do and it'salmost like for me, I've always,
I've always kind of pulledtowards things that were more
easy to do.
And I say easy loosely, it'snothing is easy in building, but
you know the things that youcan really easily attain that
are more approachable projects,and for me it's like I can show
someone how to do an archway inseconds.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Love it.
It's just, it's really not thatdifficult when you break down
the why behind the structure ofthe arch and I love the fact
that you were able to come hereand gain some real world
knowledge, but you are alsosharing that journey and your
journey and that type of thingwith other people.
What's the goal for you now?
Where are we at, what are wedoing and what's it look like
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for you?
And sharing your knowledge andputting yourself out there Like
what do we got coming up?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I think right now, the next step for me is, of
course, the show is airing, sothere's a lot of going, you know
, press if you will, and gettingout there and really being able
to use my voice, because whenyou do a show, it's not that my
voice wasn't heard by any means,but it also gives you a
platform now to say, inextension of what you saw on TV.
Here's my message as well.
Right, here's also a little bitabout me and what I'm doing, so
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I'm going to use that voice andcontinue with that.
This fall I start doing homeshows.
My first one is in Vancouver,but I'm going to be doing
America and US, where I'm goingto these big home shows and you
know, these people are allhomeowners, or you know people
that are inspiring to behomeowners and they're learning
things about their homes, andI'm speaking on main stages to
say hi, you know, hey, let megive you a message that's going
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to either inspire you or get youin the mindset that you can do
this kind of stuff and that youknow you're going to get used to
seeing this kind of face wherewe are, and I want you to get
used to it and I want it to.
You know, instead of saying, hey, I'm the first female I want to
be like, hey, I don't want tobe the last.
There's room here.
Let's all be a part of this.
Let's decide what is it insideof you that you love?
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Really, get their hands dirty,no pun intended, but we get
people in there to develop partsof them, because I think we
need more makers.
I think the younger generationis lacking, that we don't have
shop class anymore.
We don't have certain thingsthat they really do need to be
doing that kind of learning andgrowing with their own hands,
and I think parents are jumpingin front of creativity based on
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what they know or based on theirlimits of creativity.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What we try to do here is we want to make sure
that people understand that thatconstruction can be a first
choice.
We're trying to change thenarrative because it not only do
you have fair hey, women inconstruction didn't exist before
, but now they're coming in andwe are very culturally diverse.
So and you know, I'm on theboard of advisors for that and
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we go in and we encourage them.
It is a shop type class andthey're building tiny homes, so
they're actually from the groundup they're building tiny homes
and then we'll go in and trainthem on different aspects of
that.
And we want them to understandthat there are career companies
out there, right?
So in our industry, there it's.
You have a lot of individualcontractors, but then you have
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companies like ours where thereare multiple employees and
there's there's levels to it,there's working in the field,
there's being project manager,and we value your character,
mindset, your tenacity, yourwillingness to do work, the
trust and integrity you have.
And I'll be, you know, I'll behonest, I don't care, your, your
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color, your, your race, I don'tcare, you know male or female.
And part of our message is thiscan be a primary choice.
There's more to constructionthan that meets the eye.
It doesn't have to be asituation where it's a last
resort because you couldn't getinto college.
And you're sharing, and whatyou're doing as well is saying
(25:34):
that it doesn't have to be scaryfor anybody to go into the
industry.
You can learn, you can pick upa tool you can do and again, you
caught it being a maker, andthat's kind of what we want to
share as well.
We want people to get out thereand do and make and not be
scared or hesitate.
You know, we just did thepodcast with with Jan and she
was sharing her story that shegrew up in a family that builds
(25:57):
and her grandfather told her,hey, you can't do that, you know
, and kind of that thatnarrative really is.
We're trying to get rid of thatand we want to make sure that
people come into the industrymale, female alike that they
understand that you can have acareer there, you can work in
construction and with the newproducts and technology and
(26:21):
everything that's out there, itdoes make our jobs easier, but
you still have to professionallydevelop right, because there
are 100 ways to do things butthere are so many more ways to
do things wrong.
So it's whose message are youlistening to?
Where are you getting yourinformation and the shortfalls
(26:44):
and shortcomings?
So when we're doing our howto's and we're doing the podcast
, it's not all butterflies andrainbows.
You know it is.
It is a situation where we runinto delays, weather delays.
We run into homeowners who areunhappy about a certain part of
(27:04):
a project.
I saw you post recently about acabinet.
Yeah, oh my gosh, very.
You know, and we run into thatand you know we don't get it
right 100% of the time, but whatyou posted was just dead wrong.
That was, that was tough to seewas fun fact.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
they started following me like the next day,
and I was like oh wow, you wantto follow me?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
oh wow, well, it's all right, that stuff's out
there and we battle that.
We battle like, hey, this, thiscontractor took money and left
or didn't complete the job.
So there's so much out thereand there's so many bad actors.
But we want to change thenarrative and show people how to
do it.
Right now there's still athousand ways to do something,
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so we're going to get thecomments and all that stuff, but
I think, you know, it's justinspiring to see you come on and
be able to share your message.
But also now you're going outinto the world and saying you
know, look at me, I'm learning,I'm growing, I'm doing, I'm
hands on and I encourage you todo the same and, as a matter of
(28:11):
fact, give me a call.
You know, let's talk.
You know, and that's kind ofwhat we do as well.
We're wanting people to comedown, like you did, hey, come
(28:35):
and spend some time so you cansee how this is and the real
world application of it, wherewe're actually.
We took you to people's houses,you know, and walk through job
sites and let you ask questions.
But that's the.
That's the best way, in myopinion, for you to learn is to
put put your hands on.
Don't be scared learn is to put, put your hands on, don't be
scared.
So if you're, if you'rewatching this and you're
watching Shannon, or you gofollow her.
You know, sometimes it's assimple as just getting up and
doing it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Doing it.
Yeah, and it's funny there's somany areas of what I do Like
people are like.
When someone says like, oh,what do you do for a living or
what do you?
I can't give you a title.
If I say builder, then you'vealready put me in this like box.
Right now I'm a builder.
Now I build homes.
No, I might build a piece offurniture, I might build a
cabinet, I might you know.
So it's like I almost feel likeif more people realize the DIY
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world in itself, like whetherit's home improvement expert or
DIY expert or all the milliontitles they give me on that show
, at the end of the day, I'm a.
I'm a creator in my own way,where I'm using my hands to take
raw product and move it intosomething that's useful or
beautiful.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Thanks for joining us today.
As always, we are grateful forour listeners and your continued
support.
Please subscribe to our YouTubechannel.
Follow us on social media viaFacebook, instagram and TikTok.
Get more info at our website,wwwthehomebuildingshowcom and,
(29:47):
as always, remember who we arethe Home Building and Remodeling
Show.
Outro Music.
The Home Building and Remodeling Show.
Let's go.
Welcome everybody to the HomeBuilding and Remodeling Show.
My name is Chris Kirby and I'llbe your host.
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I am the owner of threeconstruction companies on the
Alabama Gov Post.
The show is about residentialconstruction.
We're going to cover topics ofhome building and remodeling.
Are you thinking of doing aremodel or building a home?
Are you a contractor looking toimprove your knowledge base or
grow your business?
Have you ever done a remodelproject or built a home?
(00:42):
There were so many things youwish you knew or that you could
have done differently during theprocess.
Then this show is for you.
We break down the process ofbuilding and remodeling and how
to have the best results duringyour project.
Whether you're a DIYer lookingfor tips, someone looking to
hire a contractor to do aproject, or a contractor looking
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to expand your knowledge baseor your business, welcome aboard
.
Glad to have you, stay tuned.
Welcome everybody to this week'sepisode.
We are going to have DIY expertslash maker, slash builder,
slash mother, slash wife.
Shannon Evans joined us thisweek on the show.
She's going to be talking allthings HGTV Renovation Resort,
(01:28):
her path that led to her beingon the show, just a lot of
different things that we couldtap into with Shannon Ryobi
Ryobi, as I call it.
Ryobi we're going to be tappinginto some of that stuff with
her and just talking about herjourney, let her share her story
with you.
With her, and just talkingabout her journey, let her share
her story with you, listen tohow it felt being the only
(01:48):
female builder on RenovationResort If there was any.
You know anything she learnedfrom that and then opportunities
in the future as she movesforward and looks to further her
passion and her journey in theDIY world and in our world of
home building, remodeling andinterior design, and just share
the love that she has for ourindustry.
And then hopefully, you outthere can glean information from
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her.
You're able to pick up bits ofknowledge and enjoy listening to
her journey, listening to herbackground, her experience, some
of the turmoil that's come withbeing a female builder and some
of the things that she's had toovercome, or some of the
exciting things in her journeyas well that led her to be where
(02:33):
she's at.
I truly have enjoyed therelationship that I've had with
Shannon.
She was someone who came downand actually hung out with us.
She took time to go to some ofour job sites.
For those of you who are justlistening for the first time,
who have never listened, my nameis Chris Kirby.
I own a couple of constructioncompanies here on the Alabama
(02:54):
Gulf Coast and we focus onremodeling in one company,
remodeling home additions, andthen in the other company we
build custom homes and Shannonwas able to come down and learn
at our office, at our workshop,and just embrace and learn with
us real day-to-day stuff that wego through and some of the
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stuff that she learned from usand she was able to use on her
journey and her successfuljourney on HGTV and now what
she'll be doing at speaking atfuture home shows.
So if you're at a builder showor a home show, you're very
likely to see Shannon in thefuture.
I'm beyond blessed to call hera friend.
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She is an advocate for women inconstruction as well, as follows
that path and that journey ofbeing hands-on in the world of
construction, actually makingthings and then sharing that
part of her life with us for allof us to see, which can be
scary, but she does it and Iencourage you to do the same
thing If you have your own DIYjourney, if you have your own
(04:00):
building journey?
If you have, you know your ownremodeling journey and would
love to share your story.
Tell us a little bit about whoyou are and how you got where
you are, and share.
Don't be afraid to share someof the bad stuff.
A lot of us are hesitant to dothat, but it's a part of our
success and a part of our storythat has made us successful, and
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sharing those experiences aswell may help out our fellow
home builders, remodelers,interior designers and people in
the construction industry.
So again, stay tuned forShannon's story.
She's going to be on the nexttwo episodes and then, after her
, I'm excited to announce wehave Sarah Trapp.
She's going to be on the nexttwo episodes and then, after her
, I'm excited to announce wehave Sarah Trupp.
(04:46):
She's been on Flea Market Flip.
She is the owner of Fun Cycledand she as well is a woman in
construction who also isactually doing the work and is
out there every day with us onher own journey, and she's got
an exciting few episodes with uswhere she sits down and shares
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her story.
And just in the introduction Ilook let me get you pumped up
just in our introductory callwhere I got to know Sarah.
We could have sat there forhours talking because she's that
relatable, her story is thatrelatable, her journey is that
exciting, and she's excited toshare the knowledge and
(05:28):
information that she hasconcerning AI, concerning
historic flips, concerning beinga woman in construction all of
that type of stuff she's goingto share with us.
So tune in and I look forwardto sharing more stories, more
builders, more remodelers, moreinterior designers as we move
forward.
And if you know of anyone whowould like to come on the show
(05:51):
or that you think would be agood fit for the show to get
their message, their story,their journey out there, please
have them email us atthehomebuildingshowatgmailcom
Again, thehomebuildingshowatgmailcom and we'll get them
booked and you can listen totheir story.
So stay tuned.
Shannon is a blast.
(06:12):
We had a lot of fun.
Hope you enjoy.
Welcome to Shop Talk, thesegment where we bring in a
co-host or special guest andjust chop it up about
homebuilding, remodeling and DIY.
This is where stories getshared, lessons get learned and
we dive into the real side ofthe craft straight from the
people living it every day.
Welcome everybody to thisweek's episode of the Home
(06:37):
Building and Remodeling Show.
I have with me a special guest.
She's an all-star and reallyhas a lot of momentum.
Her name is Shannon Evans.
Shannon, how are you?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Hi, thank you for having me.
This is exciting, of course.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Yeah, it was a no-brainer for me to bring you
on.
We met a little over a year agojust by you reaching out and
wanting to come and hang out andvisit.
And then another reason that Iwanted to have you on was
because you actually came here,hung out with us for a couple of
days and then you took thisinformation and knowledge and
(07:11):
basically now you're sharing itwith the world.
So do you want to tell us alittle bit about how?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Thank you for being so willing to share with me and
taking that risk of saying, yeah, we'll show her how to do
everything.
Yeah, it came down to Biloxi,right?
Is that the town?
No, alabama, I don't rememberwhat town it was.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
It's okay, we're close enough to Biloxi.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Oh no, town People I didn't know Went to meet a bunch
of people I didn't know.
But yeah, it was so great Atthe time.
I had known that we would befilming for our show and I,
luckily, was able to connectwith you and I knew if I was
going to learn the best ways todo it, because I knew the
platform would be seen bymillions and I didn't want to go
(07:51):
in and build somethingincorrectly or get torn up for
maybe something that I couldhave done better.
So I knew that that would besomething that you and I could
connect on, and sure enough wedid.
You taught me something inalmost every project that you
see on TV.
I mean, most of them were donethrough something I learned from
you and so, yeah, it was.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
It was really fun and also so one of the cool things
is, as soon as you left, youalso, like, had a viral video
that you had filmed of Jeremiahdoing the bucket Right.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, what is that?
Like millions Crazy.
Yeah, like millions for soakingthe tile, and it's funny
because tiling is one of thosethings that there were so many
people with so many opinions.
But for the most part it's likea supportive community.
When you start to post thingsabout tips and tricks, it's like
no, I like it when people aremore likely to say like here's
why I do it or here's why Idon't, rather than being like
(08:44):
that's a stupid idea.
But either way, it went viral.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
We get that we do so many how-tos that every video
has 50 different people with 50different ways that they could
have done it better.
Well, could have done it better.
That is also the beauty of whatwe do, because a lot of times
what people don't realize is wego back and read those and the
ones that are worth reading.
We do and and we actually willput some of that into into
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practice.
Speaker 2 (09:11):
Absolutely.
I mean, I learned a lot.
It's how I learned.
It was like at the time, likeeven just finding you guys and
the strength that you had withwhat you were teaching people
and what you were so well versedin, and it was like, oh my gosh
, this would be great to be ableto learn from someone who you
don't just do, you do becauseyou understand why.
And that was like, again, thatwas the most important thing for
me.
I didn't want to just do it onTV, I wanted to be able to say
(09:33):
like, oh, I'm doing it this waybecause or I'm doing it this way
because of the followingreasons or this makes sense
because of this way, because Iwas afraid people would
challenge that on this platform.
It's like they did in the, youknow, in the video.
It's like, if they startchallenging me, I wanted a leg
to stand on and you gave me that, because I was like no,
actually this is why I'm doingit this way.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I just thought it was so cool that you just kind of
reached out, messaged me andwhatever, and was like, hey, I
would love to come down.
And then I was like, well, sure, come on down.
And you did it, because we geta lot of people that do that.
We get a lot of people that arewhere's this training?
And they don't realize thatthis is our office space and the
(10:13):
stuff that we show we'reactually doing for work.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, this is our everyday life.
You know, I think it was sounique, even though even when
the Uber driver was taking me,he's like where are you going?
I'm like I don't really knowthese people and I know it's out
in the middle of nowhere.
I mean, you know we're going tothis building, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
I'm hoping these guys aren't going to kill me, but
like just the way that you walkinto your space and it's, you
would just listen and watchinstead of being like the pro
and that's kind of our, you know, when we talk to each other and
(10:53):
we do a lot of training here,and the reason that we do that
and why it's so important in ourindustry is because product and
technology change so much, soyou may learn something and then
six months later there's a newway, there's a better way
quicker, faster, more efficientand that's what it's all about.
So we never try to boxourselves in to one way, so
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we're my whole team has embracedlearning as a part of our
culture.
Yeah, you know, we are alearning company.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
You can see that that is very clear when you walk in
there.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
So let's get to some of the questions I have for you.
So where are you based out of?
Let's start there.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Sure, sure, I'm based in well, I see Charlotte, north
Carolina, because I live in theCarolinas.
We border north and south, likeI can walk over the border
right now, in three minutes,right so, in the Carolinas, and
our city is Charlotte, becausethat's where we are, but we're
actually in South Carolina.
So I'm based in, like, when youwatch the show, it's Charlotte,
north Carolina.
It's just the closest big cityfor me, but I'm based in the
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Carolinas.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
Got you and one of the other cool things about you
was not just that you were doingthis stuff.
I had watched some of the Ryobistuff, so you've done some
Ryobi stuff.
Let's jump over to the Ryobistuff.
So another important part ofyour story and journey that I
had noticed was that you weredoing some videos and different
things for Ryobi.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthat?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Absolutely.
Ryobi and I had connected yearsago, a couple of years ago, and
at the time, just likeeverything, like we had just
come out of COVID and peoplewere really into projects.
There was a lot of weekendwarriors, if you will coming up,
more people willing to dothings, because when you're
locked in your home for a longtime, I suppose that's when you
start getting really, reallyantsy with your hands.
So people were doing a lot ofnew stuff and I think they were
(12:39):
going through a phase where theyknew they wanted a face to some
of their videos and some oftheir product descriptions and
videos on YouTube and all ofthese things they were doing of
someone that was moreapproachable for what they were
looking to sell.
And so we connected on thatlevel and our missions kind of
lined up.
I wasn't out there being like Iknow everything and I'm a bad
(13:01):
builder and I'm really great.
It's like hey, I'm a DIYer, Ilove doing this stuff.
I want to explain to people andempower people to do it and I
also want to come across reallyapproachable.
So if people meet me on thestreets and say, hey, you're the
real B girl, I can give themtips and they know they can ask
for that Right.
Um, so it's funny because thatthat really catapulted for me a
confidence in like saying youknow what I do have credibility
(13:25):
If a company as big as Ryobi iswilling to say I'm going to slap
your face on our products andput them out there.
Like if you go to the HomeDepot app and you're searching
for a Ryobi tool, my face comesup Like how cool is that?
Just be throwing yourself outthere if you don't feel.
I mean, it was just such areally just a wild experience to
get into that with them.
And then, of course, thatturned into more people being
(13:48):
like well, ok, now it was almostlike a circle of I got
credibility from them, but thenthey, I got credibility from
that and they get credibility.
It just kind of went in thiscircle of like wait a minute, I
love these tools, I do loveusing them, I do love what
they're teaching other peopleand the ease of using them made
me able to say to people oh,you're just starting, here's
some really great beginner tools, and I knew I was giving them
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something they can manage.
Speaker 1 (14:10):
So I'm glad you hit on that piece and that's kind of
why, you know, I wanted to askyou about it because you know I
did a tool brand vote the otherday and I wanted to throw.
I say Ryobi, I know I'm saying,I'm saying it's Ryobi.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
All right, so we'll stick with RYOBI, but so you
know, for beginner, okay, theyare very affordable and their
connections right, thedisconnect and the batteries and
being able to swap, I mean theyhave streamlined that to make
(14:46):
it to where you can use the samebattery on multiple tools.
And affordability when you'refirst starting out as a
contractor is it's veryimportant when you're building
up.
So you build up over time yourtools, the amount of tools you
have, you get bigger tools, youget better tools.
But in my opinion you cannotbeat the quality that Ryobi and
we still have a ton of Ryobistuff the quality that they give
(15:08):
you at that definitely thebeginner level and again they're
building up their brand andtheir quality of tool, I think
can compete with some of thoseother brands, even beyond
beginner.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (15:21):
And they own TTI Electronics.
Tti owns other brands too TTIElectronic they own.
Tti owns other brands too.
So it's like when you look at acompany that strong and saying
there's a need for tools thataren't intimidating, I always
they're very approachable,they're very user friendly, love
that you know.
(15:42):
And seeing, even doing the showlike I only used RYOBI on the
show purposely, like I'm notgoing to water myself down as a
brand and saying this is what Iuse, and then someone tunes in
on TV and sees me usingsomething else.
It's funny I have this.
They just sent me these hugeboxes of like this and it's like
everything you need to start.
I love that.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, we've bought a couple.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Yeah, it's like so helpful because it's just one
box of everything that anyonewould need to start.
How many companies can say thatthey do that and that ease of
that price point?
I don't know.
I love them, they're just great.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, you cannot beat that and, to be quite frank,
like even watching some of thestuff that you that you do on
your pages, right, made byShannon Evans.
Yeah, on Instagram.
Please go check it out.
You do some fun stuff.
I love watching you on yourpages.
Has there been something thatyou haven't been able to do as
(16:34):
far as you know?
I need a better saw or anything, right?
Speaker 2 (16:37):
No, and if I do it, just tell them I need it.
Right Like they make it.
It's just a matter of what I'mdoing, but there's a tool for
everything.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yeah, everything that you know got you learning about
tools.
It put your face on camera andit made you more comfortable in
doing the stuff that you'redoing.
And now you're out there.
You have your own pages andInsta and Facebook and different
things.
But now this leads us into kindof what you're doing now, which
you know you hinted on andcouldn't talk much about when
(17:09):
you were here for obviousreasons, but I love watching you
on there and one of theimportant parts is that you're
the only female builder on theshow right now.
Right, I love the pink coverallrocking it out.
And what's the name of the show?
A Renovation Resort Showdown onHGTV Got it, and how was that
(17:32):
experience for you?
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's a big I mean it's a never ending answer to
that question of how thatexperience was.
It was something that Idefinitely knew was going to be
part of my journey.
I never questioned that thatwouldn't happen.
I just wasn't sure when or how,but I knew it was coming and I
kind of took the steps to kindof plant those seeds.
Even coming down to see youguys was part of that
manifestation, of saying this isone of the steps.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
You love that word you have always used, that you
have to manifest these things.
You've got me saying thatsometimes.
And and believe in.
You got me believing in stuff.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
If you can picture it and think about it in a way
that it's going to happen inyour life.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
it's going to happen If you speak about more than
that, though, right.
So since that that journey,you've done some other stuff
with HGTV as well.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
I did I 2025, which we're in right Gosh, I don't
even know what year it is.
I've done three shows, two ofthem on hgtv, one of them on the
roku channel and it was funnybecause I came out of filming.
We filmed in toronto, canada,for the whole summer, so I was
gone june to like october and wefilmed this entire eight
episodes that you're watchingnow, which air they're airing
right now.
(18:38):
Once that was over, I was homefor I don't very long, just long
enough to be like what my headwas started on, not spin and I
got a call from one of um.
It was a.
It was the producer for rockthe block who owns a connection
company that puts on rock theblock, and she had been a friend
of mine because she was part ofmy journey of mentorship and
she said, hey, we need a builderin one of the homes on rock the
(19:00):
block and I was like say nomore.
I was on a red-eye flight thenext night going out to Utah and
I arrived at the house and Iworked Rock the Block for that
season.
I was in Kamahai and Tristan'shouse.
They have this show calledRenovation Aloha on HGTV
Wonderful couple.
They do Hawaiian homes so Iworked with them and I was their
build producer, whichessentially meant I was making
(19:22):
sure that I was building andfinishing all the projects with
the builders and making sureeverything was going smooth.
So I was like I had just comeoff from the camera side of
things and I had a buildproducer on the show, right Like
I had that person for my show.
So now you have the experience,and then I flipped it and I
knew exactly how to do that role, because I just had that role
and I was like I would be, soyou know what.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
What's funny about it , though and I love doing the
show and I love doing what I do,and I put myself out there and
get beat up all the time fordifferent stuff I would be so
nervous, no matter how.
I've been building houses foryears and doing renovations and
remodeling for years, and Iwould still be so nervous to do
that.
But, not only do you do thingslike that, shannon, but you own
it as a builder, and I love that.
(20:09):
I love that side.
You are not scared to putyourself out there, and it's
becoming more and more common tosee women in construction.
You know, and it's just anatural part of what we're
seeing Right this month is abouton the show.
We have a lot of female guestscoming on and there's really not
much that's off limits, becauseit's just another natural
(20:33):
conversation about building andI love that.
You know you definitely.
Now you've worked with thedesign side, you've got the eye
for that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Yeah, right, yeah, I do, I try.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
I'm so creative.
The one thing that you weredoing here, you know, and my
team still jokes about itthey're like she loves arches.
Like she loves arches.
What is going on with thearches, you know, and we did a
couple of videos like how tobuild arches.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Listen you guys taught me how to build arches
because you guys taught me howto do arches.
I learned it from watching you,dad Right Like that's the guy.
I learned it from you.
He's taught me to love archesbecause the reason I love arches
is because I know how easy theyare for people to put them in
their homes.
And an arch and you think, wow,that is fantastic, what an
element, what a beautifulstatement to have an arch, but
(21:23):
it's so easy to do and it'salmost like for me, I've always,
I've always kind of pulledtowards things that were more
easy to do.
And I say easy loosely, it'snothing is easy in building, but
you know the things that youcan really easily attain that
are more approachable projects,and for me it's like I can show
someone how to do an archway inseconds.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Love it.
It's just, it's really not thatdifficult when you break down
the why behind the structure ofthe arch and I love the fact
that you were able to come hereand gain some real world
knowledge, but you are alsosharing that journey and your
journey and that type of thingwith other people.
What's the goal for you now?
Where are we at, what are wedoing and what's it look like
(22:04):
for you?
And sharing your knowledge andputting yourself out there Like
what do we got coming up?
Speaker 2 (22:09):
I think right now, the next step for me is, of
course, the show is airing, sothere's a lot of going, you know
, press if you will, and gettingout there and really being able
to use my voice, because whenyou do a show, it's not that my
voice wasn't heard by any means,but it also gives you a
platform now to say, inextension of what you saw on TV.
Here's my message as well.
Right, here's also a little bitabout me and what I'm doing, so
(22:31):
I'm going to use that voice andcontinue with that.
This fall I start doing homeshows.
My first one is in Vancouver,but I'm going to be doing
America and US, where I'm goingto these big home shows and you
know, these people are allhomeowners, or you know people
that are inspiring to behomeowners and they're learning
things about their homes, andI'm speaking on main stages to
say hi, you know, hey, let megive you a message that's going
(22:53):
to either inspire you or get youin the mindset that you can do
this kind of stuff and that youknow you're going to get used to
seeing this kind of face wherewe are, and I want you to get
used to it and I want it to.
You know, instead of saying, hey, I'm the first female I want to
be like, hey, I don't want tobe the last.
There's room here.
Let's all be a part of this.
Let's decide what is it insideof you that you love?
(23:21):
Really, get their hands dirty,no pun intended, but we get
people in there to develop partsof them, because I think we
need more makers.
I think the younger generationis lacking, that we don't have
shop class anymore.
We don't have certain thingsthat they really do need to be
doing that kind of learning andgrowing with their own hands,
and I think parents are jumpingin front of creativity based on
(23:44):
what they know or based on theirlimits of creativity.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
What we try to do here is we want to make sure
that people understand that thatconstruction can be a first
choice.
We're trying to change thenarrative because it not only do
you have fair hey, women inconstruction didn't exist before
, but now they're coming in andwe are very culturally diverse.
So and you know, I'm on theboard of advisors for that and
(24:25):
we go in and we encourage them.
It is a shop type class andthey're building tiny homes, so
they're actually from the groundup they're building tiny homes
and then we'll go in and trainthem on different aspects of
that.
And we want them to understandthat there are career companies
out there, right?
So in our industry, there it's.
You have a lot of individualcontractors, but then you have
(24:48):
companies like ours where thereare multiple employees and
there's there's levels to it,there's working in the field,
there's being project manager,and we value your character,
mindset, your tenacity, yourwillingness to do work, the
trust and integrity you have.
And I'll be, you know, I'll behonest, I don't care, your, your
(25:11):
color, your, your race, I don'tcare, you know male or female.
And part of our message is thiscan be a primary choice.
There's more to constructionthan that meets the eye.
It doesn't have to be asituation where it's a last
resort because you couldn't getinto college.
And you're sharing, and whatyou're doing as well is saying
(25:34):
that it doesn't have to be scaryfor anybody to go into the
industry.
You can learn, you can pick upa tool you can do and again, you
caught it being a maker, andthat's kind of what we want to
share as well.
We want people to get out thereand do and make and not be
scared or hesitate.
You know, we just did thepodcast with with Jan and she
was sharing her story that shegrew up in a family that builds
(25:57):
and her grandfather told her,hey, you can't do that, you know
, and kind of that thatnarrative really is.
We're trying to get rid of thatand we want to make sure that
people come into the industrymale, female alike that they
understand that you can have acareer there, you can work in
construction and with the newproducts and technology and
(26:21):
everything that's out there, itdoes make our jobs easier, but
you still have to professionallydevelop right, because there
are 100 ways to do things butthere are so many more ways to
do things wrong.
So it's whose message are youlistening to?
Where are you getting yourinformation and the shortfalls
(26:44):
and shortcomings?
So when we're doing our howto's and we're doing the podcast
, it's not all butterflies andrainbows.
You know it is.
It is a situation where we runinto delays, weather delays.
We run into homeowners who areunhappy about a certain part of
(27:04):
a project.
I saw you post recently about acabinet.
Yeah, oh my gosh, very.
You know, and we run into thatand you know we don't get it
right 100% of the time, but whatyou posted was just dead wrong.
That was, that was tough to seewas fun fact.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
they started following me like the next day,
and I was like oh wow, you wantto follow me?
Speaker 1 (27:30):
oh wow, well, it's all right, that stuff's out
there and we battle that.
We battle like, hey, this, thiscontractor took money and left
or didn't complete the job.
So there's so much out thereand there's so many bad actors.
But we want to change thenarrative and show people how to
do it.
Right now there's still athousand ways to do something,
(27:51):
so we're going to get thecomments and all that stuff, but
I think, you know, it's justinspiring to see you come on and
be able to share your message.
But also now you're going outinto the world and saying you
know, look at me, I'm learning,I'm growing, I'm doing, I'm
hands on and I encourage you todo the same and, as a matter of
(28:11):
fact, give me a call.
You know, let's talk.
You know, and that's kind ofwhat we do as well.
We're wanting people to comedown, like you did, hey, come
(28:35):
and spend some time so you cansee how this is and the real
world application of it, wherewe're actually.
We took you to people's houses,you know, and walk through job
sites and let you ask questions.
But that's the.
That's the best way, in myopinion, for you to learn is to
put put your hands on.
Don't be scared learn is to put, put your hands on, don't be
scared.
So if you're, if you'rewatching this and you're
watching Shannon, or you gofollow her.
You know, sometimes it's assimple as just getting up and
doing it.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Doing it.
Yeah, and it's funny there's somany areas of what I do Like
people are like.
When someone says like, oh,what do you do for a living or
what do you?
I can't give you a title.
If I say builder, then you'vealready put me in this like box.
Right now I'm a builder.
Now I build homes.
No, I might build a piece offurniture, I might build a
cabinet, I might you know.
So it's like I almost feel likeif more people realize the DIY
(29:11):
world in itself, like whetherit's home improvement expert or
DIY expert or all the milliontitles they give me on that show
, at the end of the day, I'm a.
I'm a creator in my own way,where I'm using my hands to take
raw product and move it intosomething that's useful or
beautiful.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Thanks for joining us today.
As always, we are grateful forour listeners and your continued
support.
Please subscribe to our YouTubechannel.
Follow us on social media viaFacebook, instagram and TikTok.
Get more info at our website,wwwthehomebuildingshowcom and,
(29:47):
as always, remember who we arethe Home Building and Remodeling
Show.
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