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April 9, 2025 31 mins

Good things come to those that wait, and we're is BACK with an episode that will leave you giggling and loving yourself a little bit more. This is one of first episodes in a while where I felt like myself again. 

From Goodwill dopamine rushes, the house finally coming together, teases about me and Ashleighanna's Norway episode (and our next European vacay), and the most hilarious single girl hijinks video to date, there is quite a lot to giggle over. 

We also get into my favorite past time, musings on living as your authentic self, embracing your vulnerability, and why hope is the most powerful thing you can hold on to at times. 

This episode made me smile - I feel like myself again, but this time better, more capable, more sure, more me. I hope (see what I did there) you enjoy it as much as I did. 

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Elizabeth (00:06):
Well, well, well, we are back for another episode of
the In-Between.
I'm your host, Elizabeth Cheney.
It's been a few weeks,apparently getting back in a
routine is a lot harder than itlooks.
Butti.
The season of slowing down andtaking one thing at a time and
not trying to do everything allat once, it continues.

(00:27):
Uh, I will say that the, it'sgonna get harder before it gets
better.
Part of my recent journey isalmost over, so snaps.
Snaps for new beginnings, onwardand upward.
I feel like I've said that 5,000times in the past.
God knows how many months, butthat's okay.

(00:47):
All in due time.
All in due time, and you know.
As someone who is a self labeledcontrol freak or you know, I
should say a former controlfreak because if there's
anything this whole experiencehas given me, it's the ability
to let go of control and justride the wave.
And if I can continue on thecheesy, uh, ride that wave of
life anyways, I'm very excitedto be back.

(01:11):
I feel like there's so much toupdate you on, but then at the
same time, my life is boringbecause I'm incubating.
That's what I, I told a friendearlier today.
I'm in my incubator period.
Um, my cocoon period.
If we continue with thebutterfly I metaphor, which I
always love to bring up.
So life is lifeing.
Life is getting better.
I mean, life is great.
Life is beautiful.

(01:31):
I definitely believe that.
But the light at the end of thetunnel, I'm there.
I can feel the sunshine.
I think I even said this on thelast episode, which was.
However many weeks ago.
But I'm excited.
I'm excited for all of the, thethings that are coming up in my
life.
All of the new things I get toexperience.
Uh, the Renaissance continuesthe rediscovery of who I am.

(01:53):
Not so much who am I,'cause Iknow who I am, but the
rediscovery of.
Knowing who I am and getting tojust completely be my authentic
self.
That's exciting.
And for anyone who is not livingtheir authentic life, their
authentic self, uh, get on thatbecause that's the only way to
live.
Let me tell you the freedom.

(02:14):
The freedom that comes withbeing authentic and living
authentically is definitelyworth it.
It's worth the cringe, it'sworth the anxiety, it's worth
whatever hurdle is in front ofyou.
So I implore you, yes, go.
Didn't think this episode wasgonna start on such an
existential note, but it's me.
So.
You're the one listening to thepodcast and you know what you're
getting into when you listen toit.

(02:35):
But anyways, let's see.
Let's talk about some smallupdates, things like that.
One, I went Goodwill Hunting, ifthat's even the right way to
describe Goodwill.
Uh, this past weekend with afriend, she is like a goodwill
extraordinaire, and I need abajillion frames for the
bajillion pieces of art that Ihave gathered over the past few
years.
So we go and let me tell you.
It was like a dopamine high.

(02:57):
I mean the crack daddy jackpotof frames.
I bought so many things, halfthe frames.
I'm not even gonna take thepictures out because I really
like the pictures that came withit.
So I only made my problem worseand I measured most of the art
that I needed.
But I was so.
Excited, slashed, I'll behonest, overwhelmed at the same
time in Goodwill, I didn'treally measure the frames.

(03:17):
I was like, oh, of course Ihave.
I have pictures this size andart this size because I have so
much I have to frame.
Well, would you believe it thatout of the frames that I
actually bought as frames, notthe ones I'm gonna keep the art,
only like a third of themactually fit pieces of art that
I had.
So back to the drawing board onthat.
And I'm probably going to haveto take.

(03:39):
The non, the frames that did notwork back to Goodwill.
So there is a full circle momentright there buying secondhand.
Anyways, that's okay.
It was still exciting and I gotsome other stuff there, uh, for
my house.
That was really cool.
And I will say, I think my houseis really coming along and pray
to God.
All of the big ticket purchases,all the big things I have to buy

(04:00):
and like this for the handyman.
This with the yard.
Because my yard is atrocious.
Uh, didn't know that there arespring weeds that are different
than fall weeds.
I mean, I'm very ignorant whenit comes to any kind of plant
care, lawn care included.
And my entire backyard.
That was all Rock like thislike.
Gravel, pebble landscaping stuffwhen I bought the house in
October is now covered in verytall weeds.

(04:24):
It's, uh, a mini Jurassic parkout there, if you will.
So, yeah, but I'm getting thatall handled this weekend, so
I'm, my yard will lookbeautiful.
I cannot wait.
So hopefully I'll have ahousewarming party in the next
month or so.
But yeah, things are on the upand up, the incubator, the
cocoon period.
I can feel my, my, my wingsstarting to break through,
assuming that's how a butterflybreaks out.

(04:44):
Um, I don't think I've actuallywatched one of those videos of
like a butterfly coming outta acocoon, so we're just gonna roll
with it.
It's the wings I'm coming out beanyways, on that note, I know,
uh, but the house is comingalong hopefully no more.
Spending so much money, thatwould be great because.
Your girl is in wanderlust.

(05:05):
Is that the term used for likeone to travel all the time?
I just booked my second hugetrip of the year with Ashley
Anna.
You know, she's my best friendand also my travel buddy, so you
know, why not, why not?
This is gonna be a pretty bigtrip and we've only booked like
the very first parts and there'slike a few other pieces and
connecting locations that I needto research a little bit more.

(05:28):
She's researching and we gottakind of figure out our flow, but
it's gonna be exciting becausehere's the thing, I am never
gonna be in this moment in myearly thirties, hot as hell.
Yeah, I said it single.
Confident living the mostauthentic life possible with my
best friend.
Not married, no kids.
Not that you know, thenon-married thing is like a

(05:51):
super big deal, but just gettingto do that with Ana and get to
experience travel almost livingabroad.
She wants to so bad, buttraveling abroad and.
I don't know.
I'm just so excited.
And I'm not saying that therewon't be other once in a
lifetime trips, but I mean oncein a lifetime in the place that

(06:12):
we both are in our life.
So I'm very, very excited.
And speaking of Ana.
We finally recorded our Norwayepisode.
It is hysterical.
It is incredible.
I personally feel like we arejust born to be TV hosts.
Um, I told her, I was like,damn, girl, you are a pretty
good host, co-host.
I might need you to come back onthe podcast.

(06:33):
You know, especially when yourgirl's in a drought of content,
AKA, still trying to get herfeet in front of the wait.
Okay?
Mm.
I was trying to go somewherewith that and I just.
Fumbled very, very hard.
What I was gonna say was just,especially considering your girl
still trying to put one foot infront of the other, there we go.
Got it out that time.
Boom.
So anyways, I cannot wait forthat episode to come out.

(06:55):
It's gonna come out in a fewweeks.
Um, one because I wanna edit itand add like sound bites and
sound clips from differentvideos and things we took in
Norway.
But also I'm going to edit itwhere it's like kind of split
into like two or three parts,I'm not quite sure.
So that will be out soon, butyou're gonna have to wait just a
little bit, but not too long.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?

(07:16):
So that's great It just feelsgood to like, create content,
you know?
I'm not putting all the pressureon myself.
I know I've said that like amillion times in like the very
few episodes that I have put outthis year, but I just wanna
reiterate it because I mean, Iwas talking to one of my
girlfriends earlier today andshe's trying to get back into
the flow of her content and likeshe makes short films and things
like that and she's trying todabble in this, dabble in that.

(07:37):
And you know when life happens,when you have things that.
Take you out, so to speak, andyou gotta focus and prioritize
the life stuff before you can,you know, get back to the, the
fun, the creative, the art, the,the passion, the dream, whatever
it is for you.
it can bog you down.
Because like for me, especiallywith this and where I wanna go
with my career, it's a hugedream.

(07:59):
And you know, here lately, thepast couple of weeks, I mean if
I'm being honest, co past coupleof months, I have felt so
disconnected from that dream.
And I even asked myself theother day, I was like, God, do I
still want this?
And it's like, yes, I do, but.
I have learned a lesson or twoin this thing called life.
And kind of piggybacking on whatI was saying at the beginning of
the episode, you have to balanceeverything going on.

(08:21):
You have to prioritize what'sthe most important and
sometimes.
The hobbies, the art, the craft,whatever it is, has to go by the
wayside or just go and pause fora moment.
'cause obviously I'm stillgetting back into it, but it's
definitely, not up and runninglike it was before my life
imploded.
But that's okay because as Iease back into it, as I get

(08:44):
better at it and, and get moreinto the routine of it, it's
only gonna be better.
It's only gonna be more me backto that whole authenticity
thing, you know what I mean?
Same with my vulnerability.
I don't know.
I think vulnerability doesn'tnecessarily mean like you're
crying in the blues and justlike pouring your heart out, but
vulnerability is just beingauthentically you.

(09:05):
And it's crazy to think that somany people are afraid to be
vulnerable, to be theirauthentic self.
Vulnerability is a strength.
I will die on that hill.
Vulnerability is a strength.
It's one that I pride a lot inmyself.
I know some people are a littleturned off by it.
Some people can be off put byit, but I ain't gonna stop being

(09:26):
me.
That's for damn sure.
And I don't know.
Authentic living, authenticlife, vulnerability, deep
conversations.
now I'm kind of rambling andgoing.
Down a rabbit hole of what Lizlooks for in relationships.
But other than that, novulnerability is, is great.
So don't be afraid to tap intothat.
I mean, shoot, I was talkingabout my girlfriends the other

(09:47):
day and I was like,vulnerability is, talking to
someone about the universe andwhat it means to live.
It doesn't mean I'm crying theblues talking about all my
childhood trauma.
Not that there's that much, butstill, you know what I mean?
But vulnerability is being openabout that stuff too.
You know, there's time andplace.
There's time and place.
Uh, wow.
I feel like I'm trying to actlike a therapist right now and
I'm not.

(10:08):
So lemme just reel it back in.
Where, where were we?
The Goodwill Hall, the dopaminerush.
So anyways, all that to say, theNorway trip was incredible and
the episode is.
I almost said even more, butthat would be a lie.
It's great.
I can't wait for you all tolisten and watch and get to know
Ana and get to see a little bitinto our friendship because she

(10:29):
is my freaking girl.
Hi, jinx included.
That's for sure.
I pulled a muscle on my leg theother day, like two weeks ago,
and you wouldn't believe it.
I was stretching.
Or if you know me really well,then you do believe it because
of course I pulled my legstretching.
I, wouldn't be cool enough topull at doing something epic.

(10:50):
I would pull at trying to touchmy toes.
So keep you humble.
Life has a way of keeping youhumble and mine was stretching
and pulling.
I don't even know what kind ofmuscle, something in like my
upper thigh, butt area.
But anyway, I am no longerlimping and I feel like I am
finally getting to a place whereI can actually, I don't know,

(11:11):
work out a little bit, but.
Anyways, at least I haven't diedtrying to hang a curtain rod, so
that's great.
I, I'm hiring a handyman to comedo that.
And actually, one of the thingshe's tasked to do is to fix,
said curtain rod that I royallyfucked up when I almost died,
hanging it.
So we know our lane, we meaningme, we know our lane, our lane
is not hanging things very highon my short little ladder, but

(11:35):
also by myself.
'cause it's hard.
So on that note, hmm.
let's see.
And other health news.
'cause I know everyone cares somuch about my wellbeing.
Man.
People ask me side note, a DDmoment, I'm gonna bounce and
I'll come back.
But people are like, you do apodcast by yourself.
Like, do you ever run out ofthings to talk about?
And I'm like, you don't know mewell enough, trust me.

(11:57):
I have been doing this foralmost, gosh, three years now.
Oh my gosh.
Almost three years.
Holy moly.
Wow.
I am processing that in realtime with you all.
So I'm gonna have to figure thatout.
Not that three is a magicnumber, but.
It is very cool to be doing thisfor three years, but I digress.
Do I run on things to talkabout?
No, I do not.
I am a self-proclaimed theaterkid.

(12:19):
I mean, I was a theater kid andI have no problem entertaining
myself.
I was an only child and I grewup kind of lonely because I no
siblings and there was no kidsin my neighborhood so what did I
do?
I pretended to be Steve Irwin inmy backyard with my Dachshund
and I mean, I'm like six orseven years old at this point,
so it's not too, too weird, but.
Start m Young, entertainyourself.

(12:40):
So can I talk by myself for, Idon't know, minutes upon,
minutes upon maybe even hours?
Yes, I can.
Am I weird?
Mm.
You know, I guess it depends onwho you're asking, but not that
weird is bad.
I think weird is cool.
Here I am rambling about beingweird, all this to say.
Yes, I enjoy talking aboutmyself, but I will say having a

(13:01):
co-host isn't bad.
I like it.
I like to riff and banter andlike ask questions and get to
know someone or whatever theirtrait or their craft is.
So we're gonna get back into theguests and the co-hosts and
things like that.
Like I said, Ashley's gonna be apart of it.
I have a bunch of people that Imet last year that I have kind
of lined up that wanna come onthe podcast.
So look for more collaborationsand things like that in the

(13:23):
future.
But going back to my healthnews, not that it's news.
Geez.
It makes it sound so serious.
I'm not sleeping.
You probably didn't see thatcoming, huh?
I'm like, health update.
I'm not sleeping.
I quite frankly have not sleptsince September, but it's really
starting to eat at me that I'mnot sleeping.
I mean minus the fact that thereare serious bags under my eyes,

(13:46):
but that's.
You know, not as a concern asmuch as why am I not sleeping?
But I will say the past fewdays, not quite a week, but I
don't know, maybe a week just tomake it easier on us.
I have been sleeping at leastlike six hours.
here I am giving everybody aplay by play of my sleep life,

(14:07):
but.
I'm starting to dream again.
I know this is so random, butbefore my car accident, I used
to dream so vividly all thetime.
Then after the car accident, Iquit dreaming.
I'm sure that had to do with allthe stress, my serious
concussion, my brain, all thisshit.
But I quit dreaming hererecently, like in the past like

(14:27):
month or so, I have started todream again, and I mean weird
dreams.
Nothing like scary.
Thank God.
Gosh, I.
Whew.
Nightmares, living alone in thisbig house.
Not welcome.
Not welcome.
I freak out enough when I wakeup at 3:00 AM and I'm like, oh
God, the witching hour, is therea fricking demon in my room?
Oh yeah, that's where my braingoes.
Remember that whole imaginationentertaining herself?

(14:50):
Yeah.
So there's good sides to that.
And there are bad sides.
Clearly.
Oh gosh.
But the sleeping the dreams.
The other day I had a dreamthat.
All of the interstates were justflooded, like they were just
rivers.
And I was kayaking with myfamily.
We were all in little kayaks andLuna was there.
Oh, RIP miss you so much.

(15:13):
I'm not gonna talk about thattoo much or miss her crying on
the podcast.
But I were just like littleducks in a row and kayaks and.
It had like a dystopian feel.
I don't really know.
I was really stressed outthough.
I couldn't tell you any morecontexts like what we were
paddling for or two.
All I know is I was verystressed trying to keep all of
us together in all of our littlekayaks and there was just water

(15:36):
everywhere.
There was like no land, butthere was like trees and stuff.
So I guess it was more likeeverything was flooded.
I don't know.
Don't worry, I don't think I'm aprophet, foreshadowing or seeing
the inevitable demise of oursociety.
sorry, I'm not trying to getdoom and gloom there, but if
you've watched the news at allin the past, like whatever, how
many months you, you may havehad a panic attack at some

(15:57):
point, like myself, but again,this is not a political podcast.
We're not gonna talk about it.
But I'll say I'm a littlestressed out about it.
Any ways on that note?
Uh, so weird dreams, waterflooding, but at least I'm
sleeping so well at least morethan three hours.
Two to three hours.
'cause that's about what I wasaveraging before.
So there's Liz Cheney's updateon her health.

(16:18):
I'm glad you guys could be apart of it.
and before you ask No, I did notwatch White Lotus.
Do I have fomo?
Yeah.
Holy crap.
The internet is a buzz with thatshow.
I would love to watch it.
I tried watching the firstseason, like when it first came
out and I could not get into it.

(16:38):
I'm not gonna lie, I appreciatethe satire.
I love a good satire, but it wasjust a little too slow.
But you know what?
I wasn't in a great head spacemaybe I should try it again.
Similar to severance, I've seenthe first season of severance.
Have not watched a second oneyet.
Severance.
Is a work of art, however itputs me to sleep.
Does that make sense?
Like I can appreciate thepremise.

(17:01):
I love anything that is a playsatire, uh, an examination of
American workplace culture,capitalism, all of the above.
So severance is right up myalley.
But you have got to payattention to like every single
moment.
And it's a little slow if youask me.

(17:21):
And by the end of the day, mybrain is caped.
I, I have a hard time focusingand I'm just like, what?
The numbers are scary.
What, what the Indian, the Audi,what?
But I do wanna watch season two.
'cause I mean, the internet wasa buzz with that as well.
But I don't know if I'm gonnawatch White Lotus.

(17:41):
I think I'll just stick with myfomo.
But then again, God, it feels somagnificent.
Like it's like Game of Thronescame back or something.
I don't know, maybe I'll getinto it, but I've had like five
people ask me, have you lunch myLOEs?
And I'm like, no, I have not.
Don't ask me.
Ugh.
Just, just dims up my FOMO everysingle time, even though it's a

(18:03):
self choice.
But that's okay.
That's okay.
Anywho, so.
That's all of the updates I havethat Elise are worth sharing.
Oh, oh, oh.
Actually, before I even go intolike the little message that I
had for today's episode,remember that, remember when I
used to have like messages, likethemes, topics, subjects of the

(18:24):
episode, not just me ramblingfor dear life and being like,
Hey guys, I'm alive.
Just want you to know that.
But my friend's husband.
I'm gonna sound like an idiotnow talking about this on the
podcast.
I can't remember what his roleis.
I don't know if he's like amanaging partner.
I think he is like a managingpartner or something like that.
But there's this new like dragbar, dance club type play, um,

(18:47):
type I cannot speak clearly,type place in Atlanta called
lore.
And we went to like the softlaunch, like the friends and
family and it was so much fun.
I was wearing pink, hot pinkGo-go boots.
However, I had one too manyranch waters, which shout out to
Ranch Water.
You are the best drink, not thebrand, the actual drink.

(19:08):
Tequila Topo, Chico, lime.
There you go.
That's my favorite Tequila Girlthrough and through.
Anyways.
I had one too many ranch watersand you know, I have this
special skill that I know when Ihave taken too much, I'm like,
uhoh, I need to go home.
If I don't go home in the next10 minutes, I am gonna pass out.
So we go there, dance the nightaway.

(19:30):
I'm pretty lit.
And the thing is, like, it allhit me at once I don't know if
this is.
Just because I'm in my thirties.
I don't remember my twentiesbeing like this when I drank
alcohol, but most of the time inmy thirties it's like boom,
everything hits me at once, somaybe I should slow down.
I don't freaking know.
Either way, that's a differentconversation.
Here I am at this.

(19:52):
Bar club, having time in mylife, we go to the bar next to
it called Church, which is not achurch.
If you could guess, having agreat time hanging out with the
friends.
The friends, my friends, and ithits me that, that feeling, that
spidey sense Uhoh, you have.
30 minutes to get home oryou're, you're gone or, so I

(20:15):
immediately call an Uber andthen I basically Irish goodbye.
Sorry guys.
Had to go.
I don't remember much of the carride home.
I kind of.
I don't wanna say blacked out,but browned out.
But I had a whole photo shoot inthe backseat of this person's
Uber, so, oh man.
Thankfully it did not affect myUber score.
They probably loved it.
But I came home, I FaceTimed BNAapparently seven times, and then

(20:38):
I ordered pizza because that'swhat you do to take care of
yourself when you're maybe alittle space dead.
Anyways, all this said.
I started the story to share thefact that I had another mini
photo shoot of myself.
When I say photo shoot, I meanme being a little drunk, let's

(20:59):
just say that.
And I must have thought I wasreally hot.
That's all I have to say.
'cause the faces I was makingare hysterical.
Of course.
I was fully dressed like, thisisn't like a fun, oh shoot.
No, this was like a.
Drunk girl photo shoot.
The best part though, the bestpart is I took a video of me

(21:20):
taking off my Go-Go boots andI'm gonna clip it in this
episode.
So if you're watching onYouTube, I highly suggest you go
look at it.
'cause there's no way on earthI'm gonna actually post that as
a clip to my story because I'drather you just watch this and
be secretly surprised, but Ihave watched this video so many
times because to me it'shysterical that drunk me was

(21:43):
like, oh, I'm gonna position myphone on the tripod.
Like literally got my tripod outto this.
And thought I was hot stuff andit's me just singing a song
about being a single girl,taking off my Go-Go boots.
So it's hysterical.
I'm going to insert the cliphere now and you can at least

(22:04):
hear the sound audio'cause thesong is adorable.
But you know, cheers to singlegirl hijinks.
Seriously.
Last time it was me almostbreaking my neck, trying to hang
a curtain rod.
This time it's me drunk as helltaking off.
Go-go boots.
So I hope you enjoy.
This is what you do.

(22:25):
This is what you do when you area single girl.
You do what do.
Doula chicken do.
Okay?
Yeah.
So that's a bop, right?

(22:45):
It's hilarious, right?
Hopefully you all still love me.
We're not judging all this tosay I slept really good that
night, but bump, okay.
So rambling enough.
This has been fun.
This has been chaotic.
This has been feeling good,getting back into my flow, my
rhythm, but.
The thing that I wanna talkabout and end today's episode on

(23:09):
is the four letter word.
Hope.
I know.
Taking a hard pivot from thesilliness we were just talking
about.
I was going back and readingsome of my journal entries from
the past, like eight months, andI came across one where
basically I was just trashtalking hope.
There's a quote in Ted Lasso, ashow I have watched actually,

(23:29):
where they say, it's the hopethat kills you.
Now Ted has some kind ofpoignant speech that he says
after this to them when they sayit, but it's the hope that kills
you.
So that was kind of like thetheme of this said journal
entry.
it was a very dark place in mylife.
'cause as you know, the pastcouple months have not been the
best, but.
They have been the best in a waybecause I'm choosing me.

(23:52):
I am choosing my life.
I am being selfish in the mostdelicious, beautiful way
possible.
And I did say delicious becauselife is delicious and the relief
I feel and the happiness that Ifeel, I would do it all over
again if I had to.
I mean, hindsight 2020.
Of course there's a lot of thatin a lot of the situation.

(24:12):
But I mean, if I had to gothrough that again to get to
where I am today, I would, Iwould do it a million times.
you know, forged by fire, if youwill, the phoenix rising from
the ashes.
I am not a stranger to pickingup the pieces of myself and
putting them back together and,realizing that I put them back
together in a more beautifulway.

(24:33):
The past eight months have beenjust that, me, this time kind of
slowly crumbling, falling apart,but really finally facing the
fact that I've been brokeninside for a long time.
I've been unhappy for a longtime in my situation and.
Where I'm at now is I am seeingthe mosaic even more beautiful

(24:55):
than I was before.
And because I did all the workyears ago during my depression
and finding myself and lovingmyself, and now being here at
this place, this chapter, thissetting on the game board of
life, I would do it again if Iknew I was gonna be here.
It is powerful to own your life.
How this ties into hope.

(25:15):
Reading this journal entry abouthow jaded I was and how could I
have hope when everything wasshit, nothing was going my way.
I couldn't communicate, Icouldn't get through, I couldn't
do anything.
It was just block after block,after block after block.
And why have hope?
I mean, I was being let downcompletely.
Deep down I was, I, I was havingto face the fact that I'd kinda

(25:37):
let down myself for so manyyears.
cause at this point in the wholesituation, I hadn't come to
terms with, it doesn't matterthat years have passed.
It's the fact that you'rechoosing you now.
So I blamed hope as a fourletter word that is equivalent
to a bad word.
I took hope as.
A child's thing.

(25:58):
It wasn't real.
it wasn't of substance.
It wasn't concrete.
It was like a dream.
It was silly.
It wasn't real.
It wasn't something that youcould actually hold onto.
I realized that in my moments ofself-doubt, serious self-doubt.
Hope was the broken promise.
At least that's what I keptthinking.
That's what I kept blaming itas.

(26:19):
It's the hope that kills you,but actually it's quite the
opposite sometimes.
Hope is all you have.
So here I was thinking hope asthis desperate attempt at peace
and positivity and, and justyearning for the future.
And in its simplest form, it'sso powerful.
Hope inspires oneself.

(26:40):
Hope inspires movements.
Hope inspires someone to choosethemself and pick up every
little piece that has beenbroken and stepped on and abused
and trashed, and build it backtogether and then step back and
say, wow, it's even morebeautiful than it was before.
Sometimes hope is all that wehave, and for me personally,

(27:04):
politically lately, geez.
It's what I hold onto andlooking back at this really
negative journal entry fromjust, five, six months ago,
flipping through the pages, Irealized it's actually hope that
carried me through the hope thatthings would get better.
The hope that somewhere down theline choosing me was gonna work

(27:26):
out for me in the best waypossible.
And as I sit here recording thisepisode.
Putting one foot in front of theother, getting back into the
rhythm, back into the routine ofwho I am and what I'm trying to
do in this world, and follow mydreams and chase my ambition,
and just freaking live the mostwonderful life that I can
imagine.
For myself.

(27:47):
I'm here to say hope is thestrongest thing that you can
carry with you in times ofdarkness, in times of
self-doubt.
Hold onto the hope and maybeyou're not like me.
Maybe you've got it all figuredout and you're like, of course
I've got hope.
Or I don't even need hope'causeI don't have problems.
But I imagine a lot of you, ifnot most of us, all of us have,

(28:09):
chastised hope turned our backon hope.
But remember, as small as itcould be, in some instances,
hope could simply be explainedas the match.
Think about what a match can do.
So that's what I wanted to endtoday's episode on.
I was a little introspective, alittle reflective.
And you know, hope is not a fourlittle word.

(28:29):
I mean, technically it's a fourlittle word, but in the western
context of, oh, that's a fourlittle word, you know?
Okay.
Dunno why I am going off onthat.
Anyways, all this to say, carrythe hope.
You're not weak for it, you'renot dumb, you're not immature.
Hope is a beautiful thing.
I have so much hope in my heartfor so many different things.

(28:51):
Sure hope is, dreams Is this, isthat, I don't mean hope as in
I'm not gonna accomplish this,but I hold out the hope that I
will find true love.
I hold out the hope that mydreams will come true, and that
hope also comes from a feelingof self-worth, a knowing of
self-worth, and knowing of, ofcourse, I'm gonna find love.

(29:12):
I've already met so manyincredible people.
I mean, I like to say that I'mthe embodiment of love.
So I have known love.
I have met love.
Who's to say I won't receive it?
Because they always say what youput out into the world, the love
you put out will always comeback tenfold.
And I have seen that time andtime again with my mother, with
my family, with my beautifulfriends, even with myself.

(29:35):
So if you're low today and youneed to pick me up, hold on to
hope.
It will get better.
All right.
I think that's enough for today.
The wis say, Elizabeth must goto bed.
Anyways, I really appreciate youall being here.
Uh, cheers too, being back onthe podcast.
And man, it feels really good tobe kind of back in the flow of

(29:56):
things.
So let's see if I can keep thisup.
And, uh, if you're not doing soalready, please follow me at in
between Pod and then mypersonal, uh, Instagram I
probably should have led.
This is with Instagram, mypersonal Instagram, Elizabeth
Cheney.
So you can keep up with mebecause here lately I've been
posting a lot more there.
So don't worry though, she'sgonna get back on it because

(30:17):
she's the best.
Wow.
I need to stop talking a thirdperson, but I can't.
It's just too fun.
It's just too good and I thinkI've made it quite the habit and
I can't stop.
Okay, so back to the socialmedia handles end between Pod
Elizabeth Ney, and then you canfollow me on TikTok and YouTube
at the in Between podcast.
And remember, you want to watchus on YouTube'cause you wanna
see this silly video.

(30:38):
Do what you gotta do.
You know, maybe I'll make that asong.
Anyways, I think you areincredible and I hope.
See what I did there you havethe most fabulous rest of the
week, fabulous day, whatever thecase may be, and I will see you
next time on an all newin-between.
Bye.
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