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March 2, 2025 23 mins

I'm BACK! And I'm here to talk about what's been going on and share some major updates from my life. 


First off, I leave for Norway this week, and I share some of the challenges with last-minute flight changes. *She's anxious girly LOL* 

I also open up about my divorce, emphasizing the journey of self-love and choosing personal happiness. This Norway trip marks a significant chapter in my healing and self-discovery process. Life is magical.


 Join me as I share my experiences and insights on resilience, community, and the courage to forge a new path forward. Community is key when navigating a tough in-between. I'm happy you're here for mine. 

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(00:06):
Hey, hey, hey, welcome back toanother episode of the in
between.
I'm your host Elizabeth Cheneyand it's been a few weeks since
we last talked.
Um, as you all know, if you havelistened to the few episodes
I've put out this year, there'sbeen some stuff going on behind
the scenes.
Uh, unfortunately not very coolbehind the scenes stuff for the
podcast, but behind the scenesstuff for my personal life.

(00:30):
And I wanted to take This week,as I told myself, I was ready.
I was gonna put out an episodeno matter how short or how long
it was.
Because I leave for Norwaytoday.
Yes, this is not the normal daythat this episode comes out.
Obviously, it's a Sunday, not aWednesday.
But when we get through withthis episode, you will know
what's been going on and thenyou'll go, Sweetie, we get it.

(00:52):
Oh, hugs.
Oh my goodness, but before weget into the news, the update
you've been waiting for, becauseobviously we gotta catch up real
quick and then we'll talk aboutthe real catch up.
But yeah, I leave for Norwaytoday.
Very excited.
I'm sure I packed way too much.
It's so hard packing winterclothes and 50 pounds in your

(01:12):
suitcase.
That may sound dramatic, but Ialso have to look cute, so, you
know.
What is a girl supposed to do?
But, the real kicker is when mygirlfriend and I actually had to
book these flights in December,we booked through one of those
third party sites.
And, I realized, you know, acouple days ago, I haven't
gotten any kind of email fromthat third party booking or the

(01:35):
airline, which was ScandinavianAirlines, um, saying, Hey, it's
time to check in, hey, get readyfor your flight, anything like
that.
Okay, okay, no big deal, no bigdeal.
Well, yesterday I was, you know,going a mile a minute, packing,
doing this, doing that, doingthis, doing that.
And I was like getting all mypassport together, putting out
some itineraries, making sureall my tours and things like are
in my, my digital wallet on myphone.

(01:57):
And I see this alert when I loginto the third party, uh, site
that we booked the flightsthrough.
Your itinerary has been changed.
And I'm like, what?
Now this is me logging in to thewebsite.
This is not an email, this isnot a notification, a text,
nothing.
This is me logging in, justtrying to figure out why can't I
check in, what's going on.

(02:17):
So I'm looking at the times, andthey're the same flight times
that we booked.
So I'm like, what?
What?
I don't understand.
So I go to Scandinavian Airlinesin their website, download their
app, trying to set it up thatway.
And then it says check in in twodays.
Scratch his head.
Um, okay.
Realize they just changed ourflight to Monday.

(02:38):
So we'd get there Tuesday versusgetting there Monday.
And I didn't know, I didn'tknow.
I didn't know until I logged into the site.
So of course, what do you thinkhappened?
Panic, anxiety.
I was like, Oh my gosh, this islike 1130 midnight.
You know what I mean?
I realize calling the customerservice isn't going to get me
anywhere because.
All these people are probablyasleep because it's six hours

(02:59):
ahead of us and or I hope theywork on the weekends.
I don't know.
I don't know.
So I am calling my friend who ison a date and I'm like trying to
like figure out and not have afull blown panic attack.
Just a minor one.
And I look at the flights thatthey offer that we can rebook
and they're all going out like10 30 11 o'clock tonight.

(03:20):
So we wouldn't get to Norwayuntil like 9 10 p.
m.
tomorrow.
Which, fine, whatever.
I mean, if worse comes to worse,you can pivot, but, you know,
Monday was going to be one ofour days to really explore
Bergen and like, you know, nothave any tours, not have any,
uh, assigned agenda.
You know what I mean?
I'm laughing because, I mean, Iwas freaking out last night, but

(03:40):
now I'm like, you know, breezy,beautiful cover girl.
Because it's all worked out.
And this is another reminder,Elizabeth, that when things seem
like they're not working out,they always end up working out.
Working out.
Wait, that sounded so weird.
When things don't work out, theyalways end up.
Okay, wow.
Alright, well, I basically justreset the same thing.
So you get the point.

(04:00):
You get the point.
Great reminder to just go withthe flow.
I mean, I definitely had to getshit done.
It's not like I was just like,oh, okay, whatever.
No, I had to research, I had tolook into the different flights.
So, I find a flight that leavestoday at five.
Which was actually two hoursbefore our original time, but it
has one extra layover.
Versus Copenhagen, we're nowlaying over in Paris, which I

(04:23):
really want to go to Paris sobad.
It's on my, my, my vision board,and um, this is not the Paris
trip that I was hoping for, butyou know what?
Maybe I'll be able to get alittle coffee, a little, a
little treat, a little bakedgood on the streets of Paris, if
you know what I mean.
And then we'll just go to Parissome other time this year.
That would be great.
Maybe this year, maybe nextyear.
I don't know.
I don't know.
The world's my oyster.

(04:43):
The world is my oyster.
Maybe.
I don't know.
With the way the currentgovernment is doing things, I am
freaking out about the future ofthis country.
But that is all I'm going to sayabout that.
Oh my god, I'm very, very, Ihave lots of nervous energy
about that.
Um, but anyways, moving on.
So.
Paris layover, okay.
Well, then I noticed the secondlayover is in Oslo, which is

(05:04):
Norway's capital and the layoveris only 55 minutes.
Eee! Now mind you, every otherflight option to book without
getting there, you know, superlate Tuesday, gets us there
super late Monday.
This was the only flight optionthat got us there an hour after
our original arrival time onMonday.
Ah, okay.
So, I'm researching,researching, I'm posting in this

(05:24):
like Norway travel group I'm inon Facebook.
And I don't know what to do.
Thankfully, I guess some peopleare awake.
They comment and they're like,Hey, with the EU and something
or another, I don't know.
I know Norway is not part of theEU, but it's like this region
that's, um.
Kind of included with this.
I don't know if it's a rule alaw.
I have no idea.
I'm just a girl I'm just a girltrying to get on a freaking

(05:45):
trip.
Okay.
Oh my gosh So they're like heyif with the EU and everything
once you go through Paris withyour first layover You go
through customs your passportcheck all that stuff You don't
have to do that againnecessarily when you get to Oslo
You'll just have to do yourpassport check which is very
simple.
That's not the same as goingthrough customs And they were,
and they said something about, Idon't know if it's Scandinavian

(06:06):
Airlines or just airlines inEurope in general, but there's
like some kind of rule they haveto get you, like the connections
they offer have to get youthere, like there shouldn't be
any reason for concern.
And maybe that's crap, I don'tknow, maybe that's a lie, I
don't know, I don't know where Iread that.
Again, everything from lastnight blended in because it was
like two hours of pure stress.
But again, your girl figured itout because she is incredible,

(06:28):
and I will say it again, I willalways bet on me, even if I have
a panic attack beforehand.
So, I said, you know what, screwit, I'm going to trust this,
plus there's got to be abajillion flights that go from
Oslo to Bergen, if, you know,worst case scenario, we miss it.
I don't want to think about myluggage, I figured I'd get it
when I get there, but, uh, it'sall going to work out, it's all
going to work out.
So, all that to say, the trip isstill on, I cannot wait, and

(06:53):
it's going to be amazing.
And I have very cute clothes,which is not the most important
part of it, but it is a greatpart of it.
Man, it's been so long sinceI've been on the podcast.
I am just being silly.
You know what I mean?
We are just geeking.
Also, I think this is kind ofthat, you know, vacation energy.
And then also, like I said, lastnight was very scary and
stressful.

(07:14):
I mean, dramatic.
It wasn't that scary, but I waskind of like, oh man, I mean, I
would have figured somethingout.
Heck, maybe we could havechanged our flights and stayed
in Paris tonight and then goneto Norway.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Probably not.
Probably would have cost a lotof money.
Anyways, she's going to Norway.
What else has happened since welast talked?
There was the Grammys.
Oh, the Grammys.
I don't know if you watched theGrammys.
I know that was like a few weeksback, but they were so good.

(07:37):
Can I get a amen?
The Grammys are back.
Amen.
The Grammys are back.
Uh, you know, my girl ChopperRoan killed it.
And then also Lady Gaga is back.
Heck yeah.
Into that.
And then Charli XCX and her fullblown party at the end.
It will forever be brat summerfor me.
Anyways, I digress.
There was also the Super Bowl.
I'm sure you all heard of it,saw it.
We all know the famous look tothe camera and smile from

(07:59):
Kendrick Lamar.
C'est Drake.
Great moment in, uh, televisedhistory for C'est Moi.
Um, but more importantly on hisperformance, it was such a
beautiful production of art.
Um, it's so much more than justthe music.
I'm not gonna go into it andunpack it, because I don't have
that much time, uh, but thereare college courses about
Kendrick Lamar and his writing.
Um, apparently he won a, notapparently, he did, like this is

(08:23):
legitimate, he won a PulitzerPrize for rap.
And I'm like, wow, that's prettyimpressive.
So, the lyricism and thestorytelling, um, and then the
display, like the wholeproduction of the Super Bowl was
pretty incredible.
So.
Definitely enjoyed that.
couldn't really care about thegame itself, but I love the
halftime show.
Then let's see, last week wasthe SAG awards.

(08:45):
Nothing really much to reportthere other than Timothy
Chalamet's, uh, acceptancespeech.
Not sure if you heard that orsaw that on the internet.
Um, you know, I was listening toone of my favorite podcasts,
Giggly Squad, and they weresaying like, he gives Gen Z
energy, even though he's not aGen Z.
That speech was, you know, onepart.
I love it.
I love the, you know,empowerment of yourself, and

(09:07):
you're like, I want to be one ofthe greats, I'm going to be the
greats, blah, blah, blah, blah,blah.
It was a little cringe cause hewas just like, I'm not going to
thank anybody other than myself.
But hey, like, he crushed it,you know what I mean?
so, that's all the pop culturebuzz I can think of, So now
let's talk about what's beengoing on in my life, um, what's

(09:27):
been going on the past fewweeks, past few months really,
really since I bought the house,And this is a very big in
between, and it's an in betweenthat's going to evolve.
and what I mean by that is, myperspective on it, my, my
thoughts on it, my, I mean it'svery much an active real thing.
But I am divorcing Stan.
And some of you may have alreadypicked up on that, kind of

(09:50):
figured it out.
Big shout out to the few peoplethat have been with me through
this for the past, however manymonths it's been, I think about,
I told him in November that Iwanted to separate.
So it's been about four ishmonths since I told him, um, but
my friends that have been thefew that have been walking with
me and being there for me duringthis whole time, this journey,
I.
I can't thank you enough.
You guys are my rocks.

(10:11):
And I can tell you right now,going through something like
this, you need your community.
You need yourself for sure.
You have to have you.
I mean, that's kind of whatenabled me to make this decision
was choosing me and lovingmyself.
Choosing my own happiness.
Choosing what's best for me.
So you have to have that senseof self, doesn't make it any

(10:33):
easier, doesn't mean you don'tgo through all the motions and
is this the right decision, amI, am I crazy, like I am
literally changing the timelineof my life.
It's like you are looking atyourself objectively in third
person and you see one foot onthis new timeline and the other
foot's just barely still in theold one and it's like splitting

(10:54):
yourself apart.
I don't know.
It's just, it's.
It is crazy.
I'm not going to go into whythis is happening right now.
I'm not going to go into howit's been I can tell you this
right now.
It's been horrible.
It's been shitty They always sayyou people who tend to leave
relationships grieve and mournthem long before they actually
leave There's some truth to thatbut It's been difficult and I

(11:19):
don't want to go again, I'm notgoing to go into too much detail
because it's still fresh, uh,but I will say after all these
months, he finally moved outlast week.
That's part of why it's taken meso long to come back because
basically ever since the newyear when I thought things were
going to start moving in theright direction of getting
separated, Life had a funny wayof saying, uh uh, you need to go

(11:41):
through a few more challenges,dear.
A few more trials andtribulations.
So, the one thing I will say inall of this, everything that I
expected, I thought, Oh, I willbe at this place in this journey
at this time.
He will be out by this date.
We will be blah blah blah blahblah.
I can tell you, that has all nothappened.
It has definitely gone past whatI expected, but The reason I'm

(12:06):
saying and giving all thisinformation today is because he
moved out.
And we are finally movingforward into the next chapter,
into the new era.
And this trip to Norway couldn'thave come at a better time, and
yes, um, this trip was plannedas I'd already told him I was
separating and I wanted adivorce, so this was kind of

(12:27):
like my spiritual healing trip.
It's going to be my spiritualhealing trip.
I love that one of my bestfriends is going to come with
me.
Um, it's, we're going to have ablast.
We're going to go chase theNorthern Lights and maybe even
go and take an Arctic plunge,although I'm very nervous about
that because I have this theory,not theory, but this, um, This
thought in my head that it'sgoing to be so cold, like so

(12:50):
cold that my body is going to gointo shock, and then I'm just
going to die.
Like, shock, can't swim, can'tbreathe, and then I sink like
the Titanic.
So, tell me you have anxietywithout telling me you have
anxiety.
These are the thoughts you have.
But it's going to be great.
I mean traveling in general isalways a beautiful experience.
I feel like you always gainsomething culturally,

(13:12):
personally, whatever the case,but this is going to be even
more special and I feel likeNorway is kind of a majestic
place.
Um, and I have wanted to see theNorthern Lights for a while as
you all know I've talked aboutit for like what over a year.
So I think, all right, let's go.
Let's go heal from the AuroraBorealis.
Let the universe put itsblessings on me, please, because

(13:33):
your girl is ready for herperiod of abundance.
The past six months have beenhell.
Like, hell, hell, hell, and thena little bit more hell.
But in that hell, there's hope.
I won't lie.
There's hope.
There's resilience.
There's strength.
There's community.

(13:53):
There's beauty in the pain.
You know, I'm a deep girly.
Okay.
So, you know, I've beenjournaling.
I've been introspecting likeGod, my part time job.
See, I do my job, you know, nineto five, been dealing with all
this.
So in my free time, other thanpodcasting, I've been
introspecting, because it's kindof the only thing that's been

(14:14):
grounding me.
So yeah, but.
Yeah, the past however manymonths he's been here, so it's
been very difficult navigatingthis separation and trying to
figure out what is the move,what are the next steps, and
also like being at peace withyour decision and moving forward
and be as respectful as you canand, and being the bigger person
as much as you can, lots ofmisunderstanding, but you know,

(14:35):
you just keep pushing forward.
You keep putting one foot fromthe other.
And there were definitely timeswhen I didn't know how I was
going to get through it.
How was I gonna make this nextstep?
How was I gonna put myselfforward?
How was I gonna navigate allthis stress while also not
completely losing myself in theprocess?
And I'll tell you.
You tell yourself you deserveit.

(14:56):
You tell yourself you have to dothis.
You tell yourself this is what'sbest for you because you have to
choose you.
Your happiness is the mostimportant thing.
You cannot sacrifice or suppressyourself, especially for someone
else.
Because that will, that willcome back to bite you, no matter
how much in denial you are, howmuch you choose to ignore it,

(15:17):
no, no, no, no, no.
The truth will always comeforward.
That is definitely, definitelysome, some truth, some wisdom
that I've learned.
I'm okay, um, you know, I'm abadass, I'm strong, I'm also,
I'm also okay and comfortablebeing vulnerable and sitting in
my feels and being in myfeelings.

(15:39):
And I can tell you it was hardwhen he moved out, God, this is,
this is finally here, I've beenwaiting for this for so many
months, oh my gosh, so manyweeks, we're finally at this
moment, ah, I can't believe thisis happening.
And then the fact that that waslike this past Sunday and then I
had less than a week to getready for Norway and then work
was crazy, it has been projectsupon projects and then being
gone for a week, it's like, ugh,in the middle of all these

(16:00):
projects, on top of all mypersonal life drama, so that's
why I said, you know what, Ineed to be at peace.
And that means the podcast hasto take a beat.
And here we are.
I can tell you this though, thepast few days, every day I get
better and better.
I feel more me, I feel moreexcited for what's to come.
And my friend Maggie was overlast night, or not last night,

(16:23):
the night before last, and shetold me, this is like your
renaissance.
You are getting to rediscoveryou.
And, you know, one thing that Ikept at the forefront of my mind
in the beginning of this wholejourney was, I, I, I found self
love.
I fell in love with me.
I chose me and that journey.

(16:43):
And I feel like that's why I'mable to do this.
And that's what kind of makes mea little different than the rest
is once this is all said anddone.
And we are very much in theprocess.
I do feel like the worst isbehind me because it's been
freaking hard getting to thispoint.
Emotionally, all the ways, allthe ways.
once this is all over, I'm notgoing to be lost in thinking,

(17:04):
Okay, now who am I?
I know who I am, and that'sexciting.
it's exciting to meet me, butfully me.
You know what I mean?
and I, I'm, I don't know, I canalready feel the magic.
I don't know, I'm just very,very excited.
So when I get back from Norway,I am gonna move into this house,
because yes, the house is nowmine.

(17:25):
I've refinanced it, it's all inmy name.
This house is mine.
So when I get back from Norway,I am gonna be moving in, like,
making it more my own, hangingmy art, getting rugs, getting
things to make it feel lessempty.
I'm going to full send into thespeaking because, you know, I've
been working on that content, soI can't wait to start pushing
that out.
I can't wait to dive right backinto the podcast.

(17:45):
And then there's improv.
I'm also thinking about doingstand up comedy.
Not sure how that's going to go,but I keep thinking about it and
I'm intimidated by it.
So that tells me that it's worthlooking into.
Because if I'm intimidated andinsecure, like I wouldn't be
good, it's cause I have selfdoubt.
So, alright, let's go explorethat.
Not saying I'm gonna be the nextHeather McMahon, or Jerry

(18:05):
Seinfeld, but maybe I'm the nextElizabeth Cheney.
Which isn't as funny saying thatsince there is a Liz Cheney,
politician, but whatever, youget my point, you get my point.
But the, the final words, theclosing of this whole message
that I want to give you, I willshare more throughout the next
few months as I navigate this,and, and not so much in the

(18:27):
details of what went down, butjust how do you choose you?
how do you handle the emotionaltoll this takes?
How do you build your life backtogether once it falls apart?
I've said this before, butchoosing yourself is incredibly
hard, especially if you're agiver, like me.
But I'm here to show you that itis possible.
And you will make it out on theother side.
I promise.
And as I'm finally stepping outinto the light, coming out of

(18:51):
the tunnel, I am finally at thelight.
It's not even that I see thelight at the end of the tunnel.
I'm not quite out of the tunnel,because I actually have to, you
know, we have to finish thepaperwork and all that, but I am
here.
I can start to feel the heatfrom the sunshine.
And I can say no matter how manytimes I broke, I felt crazy, I,
I was overwhelmed, I didn't knowhow I was going to make it

(19:13):
through, I can tell you it'sworth it now being at this place
and I have a feeling that astime continues on, as the weeks
carry on, the months carry on,the year go by, the years go by.
I'm gonna realize that feelingmore and more and more and
recognize This is what I had todo People grow apart Such as

(19:34):
life And that's just the way itis we all have our own trauma
Whether it's really reallypainful trauma dark trauma, or
it's just everyone has theirshit.
Everyone's got something and I'mproud of me for sorting through
mine and choosing me in the end.
And I think there's beauty inthat.
So, thank you for staying withme, even though I have not been

(19:58):
the best podcast host in mynormal scheduling.
I appreciate you all standing byme and holding on.
And anytime I'd make a crypticpost, Oh, I'm going to talk more
coming soon.
Oh, is this, is this what'sgoing on?
I appreciate it.
Um, and I'm excited.
I still believe in my dreams.
I still am ready to go take overthe world.
And I want to say something.

(20:18):
I've mentioned this before, butobviously I've had to take some
intermittent pauses on thepodcast, uh, unplanned the past
few months.
And me, two years ago, wouldhave been like, Oh my gosh, I'm
gonna fail, I'm never gonnareach my goals and my dreams
because, well, I'm not, I'm notdoing a podcast every week.
Look at that growth.
I went, oof, I got major lifeshit going on.

(20:38):
I gotta focus on this.
The podcast is gonna be okaybecause, man, that's my baby.
That's my dream.
That's my goal.
That's my ambition.
All of that is not gonna goaway.
My ambition, my drive, mymotivation.
Hell no, that's what makes me,me.
So, I'm gonna continue being asuperpower and hopefully
spreading that light and love toeveryone who listens and anyone
that I can, you know, get my, myblessings on.

(21:00):
My light, my magic on.
but.
Thank you so much for joiningme.
Uh, I can't wait for next week,obviously, because of Norway,
duh, but I'm really excitedbecause me and Ashley and I are
going to do a podcast episode inNorway.
I bought these travel mics.
I feel so up to speed, y'all.
I feel so cool.
Look at me.
I am cool, calm, collected.
She's a producer, the director,the talent, everything.

(21:22):
I figured out how to do thisremote recording with very
minimum equipment, but it'sstill going to be top notch
sound and quality.
So, well, knock on wood.
I haven't done it yet.
So we're gonna, we're hoping,we're planning.
That's the expectation.
But after all the research andtesting I've done, this should
work out quite well.
So, you will have an on site.
Recording in Norway.
How exciting is that?

(21:43):
Um, but, make sure you'refollowing me on Instagram so you
can keep up with all the thingsin Norway.
And then, when I get back, pshh,it is gonna be flying by the
seat of our pants, but thistime, in the best way.
So, I hope you have a greatweek.
I hope you choose you.
And if you're going through it,my heart goes out to you.
Just know that you can getthrough it.

(22:05):
Baby steps.
Sometimes we take two stepsforward to take four steps back
in our hard thing, but don'tgive up because I can promise
you eventually those four stepsback stop and you just continue
to walk forward until you're inthe light.
And that's beautiful.
Thank you so much.
Uh, if you are not doing soalready, you can follow me on

(22:26):
Instagram at in dot between podor my personal Elizabeth Cheney
underscore, uh, definitelyfollow there for the Norway
updates.
And then you can follow me onYouTube at the in between
podcasts as well as tick tock.
This episode is not being filmedbecause, well, I have so much
crap going on.
I didn't have time to set up thewhole thing, but at least you
get to hear my beautiful voice.
Okay.
Well, without further ado.

(22:48):
I'm gonna go drink somechampagne and get ready for this
flight and, you know, the littleglimmer of Paris that I get to
see.
Maybe I'll do some Google flighttrackers and try to find some
cheap flights to Paris laterthis year because I don't know
why I really want to go.
I mean, that's how the Norwaytrip happened, so let's see,
let's see.
Anyways, I appreciate you, Ilove you.

(23:08):
And I'll see you next time on anall new InBetween.
I'm Elizabeth.
Bye!
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Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

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