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December 8, 2024 47 mins

Cal Thompson is the VP of Product Design & Research at Headspace, where they lead a team dedicated to creating user-centered designs that drive real-world impact. Their focus is to combine design practices with rigorous research to help users achieve their meditation goals. Before Headspace, Cal served as a Design Director at Fjord San Francisco. In this episode, we explore:

  • What key metric Headspace measures for active use

  • The small feature change that increased engagement

  • The one trick they use for copy-editing

  • What drives people to re-engage with Headspace

  • How pricing (free vs. paid) impacts user engagement 

This episode is packed with practical takeaways for PMs and anyone interested in the psychology of habit creation.


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