April 24, 2025 • 42 mins
What if a set of cassette tapes could change your life?
After six failed ventures and hitting rock bottom, Ethan Frice was handed the Gateway Process—binaural beats designed to alter consciousness. What followed were vivid encounters with guides, real-world synchronicities, and the birth of Septasync, a revolutionary sound technology using 14 frequencies to access altered states of awareness.
In this episode, Ethan shares how this next-level evolution of the Gateway Process may help process trauma, enhance creativity, and even spark unexpected healing—like improved hearing and relief from PTSD.
For anyone curious about the future of consciousness tech and the power of frequency, this conversation is one you’ll feel as much as hear.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Imagine your business mentor hands you a set of
cassette tapes and within a year, your life totally transforms.
This week's guest, ethan Fry,shares how the gateway process
tapes led him to meet his guides, awaken to his purpose and
create Sceptasync, agroundbreaking sound technology
that could help you shift yourown state of consciousness.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Intrigued Well, this episode will not disappoint all
of a sudden I'm listening tothese tapes and it was like I'd
fallen asleep.
But I was in one of the most,uh, realistic feeling dreams
that I have ever been in.
Um, it was so real.
I came out of it thinking I'mam I going crazy?
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It it scared me.
It really scared me.
But in this dream I wasconversing with things.
They were telling me thingsabout life, about what would
happen to me over this next year.
I would have been convincedthat that was my normal everyday
life.
It felt so real.
There's not human words todescribe what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Hello and welcome to the Super Soul Model series.
This week's guest is EthanFryce.
Ethan is someone who's venturedinto the realms only some of us
may ever.
Ethan is an explorer ofconsciousness and a creative
mind behind the new soundfrequency technology called
Sceptasync.
It's a bit of an evolution onthe gateway process.
The gateway process issomething that was created by
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the Monro Institute in the 1970sand later looked into by the
CIA.
Ethan brings a unique gift andinsightful perspective as
someone who's openly autistic,which I see as a strength and a
lens that often carriesextraordinary clarity and
originality.
Ethan, welcome to the SuperSoul Model Series.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Ethan, your journey is literally amazing.
I'm really excited to have thisshow.
Can we just back up a littlebit and find a little bit more
about your backstory?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, so I'm 25.
I'm autistic, which issomething I didn't even get
diagnosed with until a few yearsago, but explained a lot about
myself.
So I had lots of struggles.
When I was young I was reallybad with people.
I ended up finding a love forbehavioral psychology and that
has helped me so much in myday-to-day life.
If you have autism, I highlyrecommend researching people.
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It gives back to you in allkinds of ways you wouldn't
expect.
So about a year ago, I've beenin business for a long time.
I've started six businesses.
About a year ago I had my firstexperience with the gateway
tapes, which led me to thecreation of Septasync.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So tell us a little bit about what the gateway tapes
are.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, so the gateway tapes were created by the Monroe
Institute in the late 70s, tomy knowledge, and within just a
couple years of the release, theCIA became their number one
client.
Now the gateway process usessomething called brainwave
entrainment.
You've probably heard of abinaural beat before.
If I play one frequency in yourleft ear, that's nine hertz,
one in your right ear, that's 11hertz, your brain will vibrate
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at the difference of the twothat would be two hertz in this
case.
That can replicate how yourbrain vibrates when you're
naturally asleep and can causelots of changes in your physical
body.
Think, you know, using sound toliterally turn off your brain
in the natural ways it wouldwhile you're asleep.
So that's the basis of thegateway process.
However, people started havingvisions, or very realistic
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dreams is kind of what I like tocall them, and the CIA for some
reason thought that that wouldbe a great tool for spying on
people, and that is kind of howthat whole synergy started.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, is that like the latter half of, like the
Cold War, when people are stilltrying to do remote viewing?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, and that's something that Robert Monroe at
the Monroe Institute taughtsuper heavily.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Tell us a little bit about that and what Monroe was
trying to achieve with remoteviewing.
Is that something that thegateway process was trying to
achieve, with the peoplelistening to it?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They're hand in hand.
They're not the same thing, butin a way they mostly are.
So the gateway process uses thesound frequencies to put you
mentally somewhere else.
Think like a very creativeworld inside your head.
Remote viewing is a little bitdifferent.
This was the intelligenceapplication that the CIA thought
would give us the edge againstpeople like Russia during the
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Cold War.
So imagine if I sealed up anenvelope with a photo inside of
it.
I don't even know what thephoto is and, james, I tell you,
go lock yourself in your closetand tell me what's inside this
envelope, but do it only withyour mind.
Some people can actually dothat.
That is the basis of remoteviewing.
Now, while it sounds hard tobelieve, I implore you guys to
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go onto the CIA's website andjust type in remote viewing and
read their files.
There are thousands of caseswhere, just reading the files
alone, you would think it worksextraordinarily well.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know what I'm fascinated about and you know
the people that I've had on theshow is everything about the
Super Soul Model series is aboutreminding people of our
well-being, helping us tune andtap in to that infinite
potential that we are, which ismore than just our five senses.
So when it comes to somethinglike the idea of remote viewing,
that is just perhaps anothersense that we haven't yet, as a
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human species, naturally tappedinto with everyday people.
It's something that you have tospecialize in and practice.
So I'm really fascinated aboutthe gateway tapes, but I'm even
more fascinated about whatyou're doing with septa sync.
But just to continue, before weget to know and learn way more
about your new sound frequencyand technology, tell us a little
(05:30):
bit about your experience.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah.
So the Gateway tapes hit melike a slap in the face.
That was one of the mostintense and mind-bending
experiences I've ever had.
So I've been in business a longtime.
I graduated school a bit earlyand I jumped right into
corporate America.
I've always dreamed of livingin a high rise and wearing suits
with the briefcases.
Since I was a little kid I'vealways dreamed for that.
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So I got started early and Ihad a lot of failures, as any
entrepreneur does.
La.
This dude helped me out so muchand showed over the course of a
year that he has a very steadyand strong mind.
So he pulls me aside at adinner one night and says I'm
about to say something that'sgoing to sound crazy to you and
I need you to believe me.
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I need you to think ofeverything you've seen me do
this past year and I need you tobelieve me.
And then he hands me a Walkmanand the gateway tapes on like
the original cassette, andexplains to me the out-of-body
experiences, all this stuff Tome.
I was a scientifically basedperson at the time and I'm
thinking this guy has a mentalillness and he masks it really
well and I'm rationalizing withmyself on the drive home.
(06:36):
I took the tapes and theWalkman and I'm thinking this
guy runs three businesses.
There is no way that he's crazy.
But he told me listen to thesetapes for every night for three
months and you will see a bigchange in your life and you will
see a big change in yourpurpose and that's how you'll
make your money.
So that's exactly what happenedto him.
I went in skeptical, startedlistening, nothing happened,
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kept going and after about twoweeks, all of a sudden I'm
listening to these tapes and itwas like I'd fallen asleep.
But I was in one of the mostrealistic feeling dreams that I
have ever been in.
It was so real.
I came out of it thinking am Igoing crazy?
I didn't, you know.
It scared me.
It really scared me.
But in this dream I wasconversing with things.
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They were telling me thingsabout life, about what would
happen to me over this next year.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I'm really fascinated by this bit because a lot of
people may be thinking, Ethan,okay, who's talking to you?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So, yeah, it was like I was in the most realistic
feeling dream ever.
If I didn't remember what lifewas like an hour ago while I was
in this experience, I wouldhave been convinced that that
was my normal everyday life.
It felt so real.
There's not human words todescribe what happened, but the
way I like to word it is it wasjust the most intense dream I've
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ever experienced, with thetouch of unexplainable, which
we'll get to in a second.
But it wasn't like peopletalking to me.
It was like kind of like thesun in the distance, like
picture you're in a black roomand there's just a light, and
like that was just speaking.
Like you know, dreams don'treally make sense.
They're kind of weird.
That was a part of it.
However, it started telling methings that said you know,
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you're in a desperate place.
You're meant to come here atthis time.
It got really mystical on me,which I was not receptive to at
the time, and it startsexplaining you need to talk
about what you're learning inthis place to other people, and
that is a huge part of yourpurpose in this world If you
want to have the success you'vealways dreamt of.
Put your phone in front of yourface and talk, and that was why
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I started TikTok.
I mean, I called my sister andtold her I think I am
schizophrenic, I think I'm goingcrazy.
And she goes calm down, calmdown.
I saw you yesterday for dinner,you're totally fine, and I
explained what happened and shegoes you're a smart kid with a
good head on your shoulders,give me a few hours and she
starts researching the gatewaytapes, calls me back and says
hey, what happened to youhappens to most people.
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Like that is roughly normal forthe realm of what you're doing,
and it took me two weeks.
It took me two weeks to evenprocess what happened and come
to terms that that was just adream.
However, this is the part Ican't explain the things that
told me what happened startedhappening and that still keeps
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me up at night.
I mean, it said, for example,you're going to inherit
something from a close familymember that will start you on
this new chapter of your life.
I just started a business withan old iHeartRadio executive guy
Totally screwed me over.
I lost my house, lost my car,lost everything I had.
I had to move back in with myparents for a year.
Okay, and it tells me while I'min this dream, it says, like I
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said, you will inherit somethingto start you on this new path.
Well, I lost everything I had,and my pretty healthy aunt
suddenly passed away and left mea phone that I filmed a phone
that I filmed these 4k videos onand enough money to buy a car,
because I just lost mine.
Okay and I thought you knowthat's a crazy coincidence, but
then these things kept happening.
It told me a list of seventhings and, um, all of them have
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happened, even down tosepticink.
I didn't know I would createsepticink, but it said the
success will come from youtalking about this.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You're basically, whatever will happen to you will
be so heavily tied in thisrealm you'll already have a
following about it, and I juststill find that, uh, crazy and
unbelievable yeah, so it'salmost as if spirit or your soul
, your guides have been talkingto you in this very, very
relaxed state and I think that,from what I picked up, I've been
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doing meditation for 20 years,every single day.
I've never missed a day, andit's amazing what seems to
surface when you get into thisreally beautiful relaxed state,
and I'm fascinated by how lifehas a way of being able to speak
to Ethan through this deeprelaxation and particularly when
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you've been in a troublesometime, did that feel really
reassuring to you to have all ofthis stuff?
Obviously it's crazy and feelsvery mystical, but did you feel
really reassured that someone'sgot your back at some level?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
no, not until more recently.
I mean, like I said, it was forsuch a scientific minded person
.
I could not believe that.
Um, and once I started watchingthe things actually happen,
that's when I started to feel alittle bit more comfort and it's
kind of slowly just stacked ontop of itself, but I had to see
it to believe it.
It said all these things wouldhappen.
(11:34):
It talked a lot of games, so tospeak, and, like I said, I sat
there thinking I'm crazy, youknow what?
What is happening to me?
I'm deteriorating, I wasworried, but now, um, I'd feel
stupid if I had said thatthere's not more to this world
than we can see.
There is so much more, and Iwould be an idiot to deny it at
this point.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I think that's beautiful and it's so nice to
have a rational mind and it's sohealthy, I believe, to be
skeptical until proven otherwise.
And I think that, when it comesto understanding who we are as
human beings and what we haveaccess to and some of the things
we don't even know we haveaccess to, I think that your
story makes it very, veryinteresting and have.
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Do you continue to listen tothe gateway tapes anymore, or
have you kind of put them asidenow?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I've kind of put them aside.
After everything startedhappening, I was really excited
to try to get back into thatstate and I cannot anymore.
Okay, you know, I think it was.
I think it was something thatwas supposed to happen when it
happened, and I've tried manytimes, but it's not something
I've been able to replicate.
It was just that that one ortwo times in the beginning I got
the cool experience and then ithas fizzled out.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So so what was the sort of period of time between
you starting, uh, the gatewaytapes and hearing from your
mentor to now?
How long has that sort of timeframe been?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
about a year and two months.
Okay, my whole life has changed.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, so in a year and two months, your life has
changed and your tiktok's blownup and people you know, what
you're investigating, whatyou're sharing, you know, is
enlightening to to a lot ofpeople who have have a healthy
dose of skepticism.
Um, to me, my mind is wide open, having been meditating for a
long period of time, but I'mstill fascinated to see that
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we're all on a circle, just atdifferent positions on a circle
looking at the same thing.
So I'm really fascinated.
So thank you so much forsharing that part of the gateway
process.
But tell us a little bit aboutyou and your backstory.
Why was this so important toyou to investigate the gateway?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So it was mostly my business mentor and a mix of me
being desperate.
So I'm on my seventh business.
Um, I've failed a lot of themand most of them were kind of
outside of my control.
Like right before this, I heartradio guy screwed me over and
put me in the position I was inwhere gateway was all I had.
Yeah, um, I started a businesswith a guy in la.
He ran an exotic car rentalshop and on our grand opening
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day this dude just went missing.
Like we had to file policereports all kinds of things.
Um, I felt like I was cursedand at that point like, even if
my mentor was giving me snakeoil, it was free and it took an
hour of my time every day.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I saw no harm in trying yeah, absolutely, and,
and you know, if there's no harmin it, no, no foul, no play.
And I think that that's againmaybe something learning along
the entrepreneurship, that theymay not always work, but if
you're being guided from ahigher perspective, which it
sounds like this new business is, I think the world is ready for
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Sceptasync.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So tell us a little bit about this new sound
frequency technology that you'vecreated so septa sync also came
to me in a dream, a verydifferent and normal dream
compared to the gateway process.
So a sleep, like I said, asleeping dream.
A sleeping dream, yes I woke upat 2 am and just kind of wrote
down everything in my dream andthat was how I created septa
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sync.
So while the gateway tapes usetwo or maybe four frequencies,
no one's positive.
Their pattern is very secretive, you know.
Like I said, uh, they'll playnine hertz in one ear and 11 in
the other and that creates onephantom sound in your brain of
the difference of the twonumbers.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I hope I'm making sense okay if we don't, I love
you be as specific as you can,because we're trying to catch up
and learn as we go along.
So you just fill us in with allthe details and the audience
and I will will take in thescience that's going on here
perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So best way to look at it is two slightly different
frequencies, one up here, one alittle bit down here, go into
each ear.
Your brain perceives them andbridges the gap, makes the two
sounds into one, a phantom sound.
When your brain does, itvibrates with the sound.
It changes your brainwaves.
So the Monroe Institute usestwo frequencies to make one.
Maybe they use four to make two.
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Septasync uses 14 to make seven.
So it attacks every sleepcenter of the brain that we know
about.
And I don't even know howSeptasync works.
This is just how I think itworks.
Nobody knows why this evenworks.
It should not work.
That's the coolest part.
It should not work at all.
But septic puts six of the sixof the frequencies that act on
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your sleeping centers and yourcritical thinking areas to relax
them, and then every fiveminutes for 30 seconds I blast
30 hertz, which keeps youmentally stimulated, so your
body will fully fall asleep onyou while your mind stays awake.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And it is such a trippy thing to experience.
Is this a bit like the movieInception to a certain extent?
You know, when ChristopherNolan was creating that, the
reason why he created the movieInception was because he said I
remember studying at college andjust like I needed to just
finish what I was doing and Ihad such little sleep and then I
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managed to find this littlesmall space where my body was
totally relaxed but my mind wasopen.
It was just this, almost thissmall peekaboo of a window of I
don't know if I'm asleep, Idon't know if I'm asleep, I
don't know if I'm awake.
Is that kind of similar?
What septicink is like?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
yes, actually.
So I was recently at a healthconference.
I had you know, septicink is a30 minute long.
30 minute long tapes.
There's eight of them and I hadto shorten it down as little as
I could so people could do livedemos.
I ended up at 11 minutes.
I used some eeg data.
I have to pull people out rightbefore they would start like
the dreaming portion of septic,and people were saying it's
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acting like sleepless rest,exactly what you just said like
their body fell asleep, theirminds did not and they felt like
they got the benefits of sleep,but they woke up with like zero
mental fog.
So it's neat you say that.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think they're very similar, similar yeah, I mean I,
I just tried the septa sinktake one before we did this
interview because I wanted tocome with a unique perspective
and not just hearsay.
And I have to say I thinktowards the very end of the tape
, before the wind starts comingin, I was like I think that I
felt like five minutes.
I was clear out but my body wasso relaxed, incredibly relaxed.
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And I have tried brain hemisync, I have tried the gateway
process because of you, and I'vetried meditation, different
sound frequencies, all thedifferent sound frequencies.
I've got tuning forks, you nameit because I'm very auditory
and I make music as well, andthat was a gift.
I didn't even realize that Icould make music.
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So I play the ukulele and Iwrite and produce like dance
music, house music, and that'smy pleasure, that's my creative
outlet, that's just a bit of fun.
But when I hear thosefrequencies on Sceptasync it
feels very, very different tosome of the other things I've
ever come across.
So I'm absolutely fascinatedwhat you've created.
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And I'm even more fascinatedbecause I know, when I've
studied the great minds of thepast, people like einstein and
newton and tesla and even youknow great minds of people are
always taking these littlesiestas.
They're always having theselittle naps and in these naps
they might just get a window ofan idea.
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You know, lenny Kravitz said ona TV show in the UK a little
while ago he goes whilst I wasshooting the Hunger Games 3, I
suddenly got the idea for a song.
So I just got out the guitar,played a bit and suddenly I've
got a song and he goes.
I kept on going and for sixhours straight I wrote nine
tracks but I had to be on setand you know, half an hour later
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, so I didn't sleep all nightlong and the interview goes.
Weren't you tired?
And he goes.
Yeah, but I don't want to missthat download that comes through
.
He goes because you never knowwhen a creative piece of work
will come through.
So that album that came out, Idon't know, three or four years
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ago, as human beings, and whatyou've created, just as the
result of getting into that verydeep, relaxed state that's
alert and ready to take notes ifyou need to.
So, with that having been said,septicink, what do you think
the future of septa sync is?
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And, you know, tell us a littlebit about some of the people's
experiences, because you knowone of your videos is
fascinating on the deaf clientthat you had.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah.
So I I really don't know wheresepta sync can take me.
I usually have a vision for thefuture and I am blanking badly.
I mean I have no clue what itdoes for the future.
And I am blanking badly, I meanI have no clue what it does.
Uh, science fundamentally saysthe multiple frequencies should
interfere and you know heavilyshould not work at all.
So right now, as we figure itout, I'm learning more and I'll
be able to kind of piecetogether the future.
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But I have no idea, and that'skind of the coolest part right
now.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So you can be excited whilst everything's unfolding
right oh, yeah, oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's so exciting and septic sink is doing things to
people that we could not haveever expected.
So one of the biggest things iswith some deaf people and I'm
starting to realize I think ithas to be a certain type of deaf
or a certain type of hearingloss.
Okay, but I had a deaf lady.
She listens with cochlearimplants, so you know, through
vibration.
Deaf lady she listens withcochlear implants, so you know,
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through vibration.
Yeah, and she, you know shegets no effects from binaural
beats because the implantscannot convey the frequencies
like they're supposed to.
So she listened to septa sync.
It didn't work.
She was bummed and she thoughtwhat if I take out my power
banks and my implants?
She rips them out and shecouldn't even hear it.
She had, she said she had towatch her phone's slider bar
moving on the video to know thatit was playing.
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She just laid back and she hadthe full experience everybody
else does, being fully deaf.
So that tipped me off tosomething.
Septasync relies on audioprocessing, we think, but maybe
it doesn't.
If it's working on deaf peoplethat cannot truly process the
audio, that either means thather ears are still working and
there's a disconnect in thebrain somewhere or it's
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bypassing the auditory complex,which would be groundbreaking
and huge, massive.
So I'm at this health conferenceand I see a guy wearing hearing
aids and I tell him the story.
Hey, a deaf lady tried this.
All you do is listen.
It takes 11 minutes.
Please come give it a try.
I'll give you everything I'vecreated for free.
I just want to see what happens.
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So this guy takes out hishearing aids, knocks out for 11
minutes and I wake him back up.
We're talking, we're talkingand he goes I can hear you.
And I was like, yeah, and he'slike my hearing aids aren't in.
I can hear you well.
And I was like, oh my God.
So we took a video and hebasically said like I don't
think I need this thing anymoreand puts it in his pocket.
And it's been two weeks and hestill has not put his hearing
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aids back in.
That's huge, like his hearingis better.
And it wasn't like he didn'tlose his hearing in a loud event
or like warfare or anythingcrazy like that.
It was just from aging.
So I'm trying to test it on areally diverse group of people
that have hearing loss, you know, like war veterans, people who
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have hearing loss from geneticdisorders and then elderly
people and it seems to beworking with people with like
genetic issues, like a lady thatkept getting ear surgeries
since a child.
She's found a lot of relief andsaid septicink is helping.
But I've also had people withtinnitus from being in the
military who are saying it isnot doing anything at all.
So I think it's really aspecific kind of hearing loss.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, could it help with any sort of traumas and
things like that.
Do you think Would it helppeople relax at a deeper state?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Personally I think so , and the reason being is
because your body falls asleepbut you still have the ability
to think through your problemsbecause your mind does not
follow the body into sleep and,in my opinion, just trying it
myself, working through yourproblems without a physical
emotional response is mucheasier and when your body's
asleep it does not get so workedup.
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You can work through problemsthat would normally cause you a
lot of distress, but maybewithout all of the actual
distress interesting because thebody really holds on um to
emotional tension and pressure.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know you can.
You can see that in fasciarelease on when you're doing
like foam rolling you know I'veseen grown men cry foam rolling
and when they've had like verydeep tissue, because the muscles
and the body just absorb allheavy emotion.
So when your body's at absoluterest, like using septicink,
it's not, it's it's able toalmost not activate any of that
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distress or emotional actioninside the body.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
That's a fascinating potential scientific
breakthrough for people healingand coming back very, very
quickly well, and yeah, I livedthrough a shooting when I was
young, for example, and thatscrewed me up pretty bad.
You know, I did a lot oftherapy.
Um, I was part of likeexperimental therapies when,
like psychedelic treatment wasnew and stuff.
I was one of the youngestpeople that did that at the time
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and none of it it really worked.
I mean, the experimental stuffhelped, but more than anything
else, but nothing ever reallylike fixed me.
Like I still felt broken andwhen I was listening to the
gateway process that I stillwill credit the gateway process
to getting rid of most of mylike life altering, like PTSD
symptoms, after about two monthsof listening I woke up one day
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and realized like I have notwoken up screaming in a long
time Like I I've.
I don't even feel like the sameperson that went through it.
It did something to my brain andI love the Monroe Institute for
that.
I will always vouch for theirtapes.
You guys should try themseriously.
It's incredible work.
But I think that the sync issimilar.
It just builds on that.
That's, that's my thoughts, butI think that the sync is
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similar.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It just builds on that.
That's my thoughts and I lovethat because you know it's.
You know 40, 50 years on, youknow, since the Monroe, and you
know technology's advanced alittle bit, and tweaking things
a little bit is never a badthing.
You know we need to evolve asspecies and we can evolve in
technology and I believe thattechnology, if we use it
correctly, can be one of ourgreatest allies if we be able to
(26:16):
use it and program it correctly.
And I personally believe, andI've always thought, ever since
Star Trek first came out, theywere doing this thing.
When Star Trek goes back, youknow to, from the future, to a
modern day period, I think itwas like the 1980s at that time
and they said oh, your modes ofmedicine are so outdated.
(26:41):
Don't you recognize that soundfrequency is the future of all
healing, of where we come from,in whatever year it is?
You know from Star Trek and I'ma firm believer that sound
frequency is the future of a lotof healing and and I think that
what you've created and and alot of what's happening at the
gateway, is just the beginningof some of the things that we've
, we can learn and use to helpheal lots of people and help
(27:06):
bring us greater peace as well,and I think that's important
because your journey of of thatptsd and not waking up terrified
in the middle of the night issuch a huge uh gain for you, and
now you're able to helppotentially millions of people
around the world with a similarbut perhaps updated version of
(27:27):
the monroe tapes and while yousay sound frequency is the
future, I see it as the this isthe past we're just bringing to
now.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I mean, everything is vibrating matter.
If you can vibrate at the samefrequency as something, you
could stick your hand straightthrough a wall and there would
be no tear in the wall, no tearin your hand.
You could literally phasethrough things, like the Flash
does in the comics.
I used to love those as a kid.
We use vibration for everything.
Boiling water vibrates, themolecules they.
(27:57):
It puts off heat.
Your water boils, um, thingsget cold.
They vibrate less.
Everything around us isvibrating.
Why have we not tried that onhumans?
I I think that all the time wewe use vibration to achieve
almost everything on this earth.
Yeah, why have we not used thaton humans?
That blows my mind.
This technology's been aroundsince the 80s and it's like
nobody even has looked into it.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It feels like you know where someone asked me and
they go where are you from?
And I said I'm from the futureto come back to tell you it's
all good, right, I've said thatmany, many times and and I
really do believe that becausethank you for correcting me
earlier when you say it's thefuture, it's actually now.
But we often say that becauseyou know, this is the current
(28:39):
reality that we think, thatwe're observing, which is.
But actually, where do all theideas come from?
They come from the quantumfield.
You know, where do the ideasfor a new TV show or a new story
, or a new healing modality?
They all come from the personwho's receptive, who has their
antennas up, who's receptive ofthe idea that can use it now and
(29:00):
so, exactly, and people liketesla.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
They were obsessed with ancient egypt because egypt
was obsessed with soundfrequencies.
And tesla while we thought hewas crazy when he was alive,
he's now recognized as one ofthe smartest people that has
touched this earth.
Um, he created an earthquakemachine.
Um, it doesn't cause afull-fledged earthquake, but if
you can feel the groundvibrating four football fields
away, that counts in my book.
(29:24):
Yeah, and he did all thisstudying ancient egypt, who had
a weird obsession with frequency.
But this, this stuff has beenaround.
I feel like.
I feel like it's been studiedand it was locked away,
classified for one reason oranother, but I have a hard time
believing nobody has looked intothis.
I have such a hard timebelieving that.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well, totally, and I think that people try and look
it away or, if anything, theylook it away out of fear of what
people may discover.
But actually what we'rediscovering is that eventually,
we're all one.
We're all here to help eachother with our own gifts and
talents, and the sooner we dothat, the more joy that we
experience as human beings andwe can get on doing what we do,
(30:05):
which is, you know, enjoyinglife.
Whilst it's a short amount oftime, we're physically here, so
we might as well enjoy it, and Ithink that trying to have
access to different frequenciesof I mean, what are words, words
of frequencies, you know, andwe're able to have this
conversation, that actuallyhappened before we got here and
(30:26):
that we had this conversation.
If we really look at quantumphysics, you and I had this
conversation already and we'rejust catching up with it now.
Everything all at once,everything all at once.
Right, it's already happenedand my excitement drew me to you
, my, my interest in, likehealing modalities and
(30:47):
understanding, you know, uh,wanting to know about what we
are capable of as human beingsand wanting to share that with
the audience, and wanting tohelp people improve the quality
of their life so much that they,in a year or so, will be a
completely different, evolvedperson, just like you've had.
And if it weren't for yourchallenges, you wouldn't be
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where you are now.
And I'm so excited for you,ethan, because you've got so
many wonderful things ahead.
The thing is, you've learnedalong the way and I think that's
magical.
So, scepticink, do you thinkyou'll create anything else from
Scepticink?
I know it's just come out.
It came out about a month ago,is that right?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, like a month and six days or eight days or
something.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
We are brand new still, yeah you're brand new and
I'm telling you guys, you'vegot to listen to the, the, the,
the septic sink.
You know it's got eight, eighttracks, but the first one really
got me already.
You know, just half an hour inyou're going to really relax and
just be open, but you'veobviously got to have headphones
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and it really will put you intoa very good feeling state.
My question is is where do youthink you're going to go with
SEPTA sync?
Do you think you could find ordiscover new frequencies to help
heal other types of challengespeople may be having?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Well, yeah, that's.
The coolest part is, as Iunderstand how this works better
and figure out you know whySEPTA sync works with
multilayered binaural beats, ifI can replicate that in the
opposite.
For know why septa sync workswith multilayered binaural beats
, if I can replicate that in theopposite.
For example, like I've createdmimicking sleep with sound
frequencies, if you can get itto work in other areas, you can
mimic almost anything you want.
I mean you could trick the bodyinto feeling any kind of way
(32:29):
it's actually scary when youthink about it too hard Like you
want to make one that won't letyou sleep.
That is completely doable aslong as you have the base
science worked out.
Like septicink might work bychance.
You know people have tried manytimes to multilayer binaural
beats and you get all kinds ofnoisy brain interference.
Something about septicink worksand just applying that to other
(32:51):
areas.
I mean you.
You can do so much with it.
You could.
You could make yourself feellike you're on a roller coaster
and you could be laying in yourbed.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
You just have to have the right frequencies to affect
the sensory systems in theright way you know, going back
to you know the gateway, havingfour frequencies in septa sync,
having 14, is that correct?
Yeah, 14.
Tell us a little bit about thefrequencies, because I remember
in a video you were explainingyou like you were told this is
(33:18):
the frequency you've got to use,because the listeners need to
hear this, I believe.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, so the dream I had that gave me the idea.
Well, it didn't give me theidea.
I got spoon fed theinstructions to make this.
That's the biggest reason why Idon't know how this works.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I wrote it better, better.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So you're not even claiming it to be yours.
Right, you?
I feel weird.
If I did, I did most of mylearning about this after I
created it.
I started learning why is thiseven working?
And found out it shouldn't.
That's, you know, confusing.
Yeah, I was winning some kindof award in my dream, like a
nobel prize or somethingscience-based.
You know the audience they werewearing lab coats and had like
(33:52):
goggles on.
It was pretty exaggerated and Ikept saying, like I unlocked a
new area of research in thebrain.
I'm giving a speech and I saidI use these frequencies.
I'd start listing them off,like 140 and 145, 215 and 218,
and I listed off so many numberswoke up and they were still in
my head.
I wrote them down and like forlike two weeks it was like a
(34:12):
song on loop in your head.
I was just hearing what Italked about in my dreams.
Did you know what these?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
frequencies were.
Had you ever known about thesefrequencies or what they do?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yes, from researching the Gateway tapes, okay, alpha
beta theta kind of low tomid-range, and then there's a
few that are like way up therewhich, um, I don't think I
wouldn't think would fit well,but I think that's what makes it
work, like uh frequency perhaps, yeah, yeah, a lot of them are
(34:44):
over 30 hertz.
Uh, three of them are.
Which, again, it it's.
It's such they're so spread farapart they should really
interfere with each other.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's a quite a big mystery so there's something
that I've sort of done on myresearch right with when it
comes to understandingbrainwaves, professional
athletes, people hitting flowstates.
You know that what I found isthat particularly tennis is one
of my favorite joys, right, butwhat I've noticed, and when I've
been watching interviews, isparticularly with tennis players
(35:15):
, because they have to go fromadversity and then turn it
around fairly quickly.
It's a one man sport or a onewoman sport, and then they just
literally have to take thebounce on something that didn't
go well on a point and then theyhave to come back.
And they found that the veryhigh echelon tier players hit a
brainwave frequency of gamma alot and however they hit that,
(35:41):
they're able to return to thattime and time again.
And so by Pareto's rule, theyseem to be the ones that
continually tend to win becausethey're hitting this brainwave
frequency of which you'reputting in this frequency on
septa sync.
That's fascinating.
So that means we could havehigher performing versions of
ourselves just by tuning intothese frequencies.
(36:03):
Is that the correct science?
The way I'm listening to it tomy understanding.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Uh, yes, I mean, like I said, you could recreate
anything if you make it work.
That's the beauty of themulti-layered binaural beats is,
instead of just doing one thing, now you can do multiple, as
long as you can replicate it inthe opposite fashion of septa
sync.
So, for example, like race cardrivers, if you have a frequency
that keeps them in the flowstate when they do like those
four hour endurance races, thatwould probably get banned so
(36:32):
fast if it works because itwould be.
It would be like cheating, likeum.
Cigarettes used to be huge inrally racing back in the 80s
because it's a stimulant.
These guys would chain smokeand then go race at like 120
miles an hour on a dirt roadcraziest thing ever, yeah, and
they banned cigarettes becauseand people who didn't smoke
always lost um, and I think thatcould be a very similar thing.
(36:54):
It's like um, okay interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Externally very interesting yeah so there was a
race car driver of formula one.
Uh, I was watching hisinterview.
He's an old boy, he's an oldguy and he said that I didn't
really mind racing at allbecause what I enjoyed wasn't
necessarily the winning althoughthe winning is great, he goes.
I just enjoyed the way I felt,driving at like 140 miles an
(37:20):
hour, you know, around Monaco.
You know very quickly, and hegoes.
It was just.
I know I was going so fast, butI felt so slow.
You know, I felt like I couldjust feel every turn.
I knew the track, I knew whatwas on the track, I could feel
my whole environment.
It was as if that environment,myself and the car were all one
(37:42):
package, just flying around thistrack and he goes.
I love to race because of thatfeeling that I get.
So I'm fascinated.
That frequency, the feeling, isa frequency.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I don't know probably , I mean I mean it's our brain
waves changing that shouldlikely have an effect on
emotions.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I don't see why it wouldn't yeah and that means
correct me if I'm wrong if it'sokay to say that if we have any
distress in our life, that whenwe hit a new frequency we don't
have access to that emotionalheaviness because we're in a
different state.
(38:31):
I mean, I call it like a swipecard access.
If you're on a differentfrequency because you're so
relaxed, you don't have accessto stress because you're so
relaxed.
So it's like with septicink.
This is my interpretation of itand I've only listened to it
once.
But you know, I've beenmeditating for a very long
period of time and what I see isyou just suddenly swipe the
(38:52):
deep relaxation card and, as aspecies, we find it very
difficult to relax.
We find it very difficult toswitch off, because we're always
being stimulated by somethingthese days and, whilst that's
normal, when we do actuallylearn or switch off the body, I
think we have access tosomething phenomenal I think we
(39:14):
have access to in spiritualterms, to listening to your soul
.
I think you have access toreceiving great ideas, which is
what you've done and you know,in professional sports, people
have access to playing in flow Imean, I think I yeah, I have to
(39:34):
agree sound frequencies can doso much to the brain and body.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
We just have not researched at all.
Um, I think it's our mostpowerful tool we have, most
definitely.
I mean, I love, I love drivingcars, like you were talking
about that race car driver.
I know that feeling like I go.
I go to racetr tracks as oftenas I can.
I grew up on a mountain pass,used to drive the crap out of it
every day.
You're nice and there's not anot a better feeling.
(40:01):
And now, like dude, I havecochlear headphones.
They bounce off your cheekbones.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna put onlike some gamma frequencies next
time I go race and see if I dobetter or not and will you let
us know, let us know like how do?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
you get on, because you know a lot of this.
As you know, as a human family,we want to go.
Hey, I think this kind of works, or it works for me, you know.
Um, I always see tennis playerswhen they, before they go on,
they listen to music to getpumped up.
But what if they startedlistening to gamma rays before
they get on and start playingthe US Open or whatever, or
Wimbledon?
I'm fascinated to see you know.
(40:35):
So if someone's tuning in, youknow, why not give it a go?
See how you get on?
You've got nothing to loseright?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, I live close to a go-kart racing place too.
I might go test this out today.
My curiosity's peaked all of asudden.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Well, if you love racing, I think that you've
created something reallybeautiful.
Ethan, it's been absolutelyamazing talking to you.
Is there anything that you'dlike the audience to to to know
a little bit more about that youthink would help them?
And ethan, take away perhaps?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I mean, I'll reiterate from earlier.
I have no idea how septic works, but I will say this we live in
a world of frequency,vibrations and electromagnetic
fields.
There's no reason we should notbe trying sound frequencies on
everything.
I mean a tree catching on fireand burning is literal, causing
vibration that deteriorates thetree.
(41:27):
Everything in nature happensfrom frequency or vibration.
We need to test this on peoplemore.
Be open to it.
I guess that's all I got.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
I love your genuine and authenticity.
You know you bring such aninteresting vibe to the equation
and such a clarity on the soundfrequencies and I love learning
about the science behind.
You know the frequencies andeverything like that.
You've been absolutely amazingto speak to.
This week's Super model isethan frice.
(41:57):
Thanks for being on the showthank you so much for having me
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Imagine your business mentor hands you a set of
cassette tapes and within a year, your life totally transforms.
This week's guest, ethan Fry,shares how the gateway process
tapes led him to meet his guides, awaken to his purpose and
create Sceptasync, agroundbreaking sound technology
that could help you shift yourown state of consciousness.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Intrigued Well, this episode will not disappoint all
of a sudden I'm listening tothese tapes and it was like I'd
fallen asleep.
But I was in one of the most,uh, realistic feeling dreams
that I have ever been in.
Um, it was so real.
I came out of it thinking I'mam I going crazy?
(00:43):
It it scared me.
It really scared me.
But in this dream I wasconversing with things.
They were telling me thingsabout life, about what would
happen to me over this next year.
I would have been convincedthat that was my normal everyday
life.
It felt so real.
There's not human words todescribe what happened.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Hello and welcome to the Super Soul Model series.
This week's guest is EthanFryce.
Ethan is someone who's venturedinto the realms only some of us
may ever.
Ethan is an explorer ofconsciousness and a creative
mind behind the new soundfrequency technology called
Sceptasync.
It's a bit of an evolution onthe gateway process.
The gateway process issomething that was created by
(01:21):
the Monro Institute in the 1970sand later looked into by the
CIA.
Ethan brings a unique gift andinsightful perspective as
someone who's openly autistic,which I see as a strength and a
lens that often carriesextraordinary clarity and
originality.
Ethan, welcome to the SuperSoul Model Series.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Ethan, your journey is literally amazing.
I'm really excited to have thisshow.
Can we just back up a littlebit and find a little bit more
about your backstory?
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, so I'm 25.
I'm autistic, which issomething I didn't even get
diagnosed with until a few yearsago, but explained a lot about
myself.
So I had lots of struggles.
When I was young I was reallybad with people.
I ended up finding a love forbehavioral psychology and that
has helped me so much in myday-to-day life.
If you have autism, I highlyrecommend researching people.
(02:13):
It gives back to you in allkinds of ways you wouldn't
expect.
So about a year ago, I've beenin business for a long time.
I've started six businesses.
About a year ago I had my firstexperience with the gateway
tapes, which led me to thecreation of Septasync.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
So tell us a little bit about what the gateway tapes
are.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, so the gateway tapes were created by the Monroe
Institute in the late 70s, tomy knowledge, and within just a
couple years of the release, theCIA became their number one
client.
Now the gateway process usessomething called brainwave
entrainment.
You've probably heard of abinaural beat before.
If I play one frequency in yourleft ear, that's nine hertz,
one in your right ear, that's 11hertz, your brain will vibrate
(02:54):
at the difference of the twothat would be two hertz in this
case.
That can replicate how yourbrain vibrates when you're
naturally asleep and can causelots of changes in your physical
body.
Think, you know, using sound toliterally turn off your brain
in the natural ways it wouldwhile you're asleep.
So that's the basis of thegateway process.
However, people started havingvisions, or very realistic
(03:18):
dreams is kind of what I like tocall them, and the CIA for some
reason thought that that wouldbe a great tool for spying on
people, and that is kind of howthat whole synergy started.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, is that like the latter half of, like the
Cold War, when people are stilltrying to do remote viewing?
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, and that's something that Robert Monroe at
the Monroe Institute taughtsuper heavily.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Tell us a little bit about that and what Monroe was
trying to achieve with remoteviewing.
Is that something that thegateway process was trying to
achieve, with the peoplelistening to it?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
They're hand in hand.
They're not the same thing, butin a way they mostly are.
So the gateway process uses thesound frequencies to put you
mentally somewhere else.
Think like a very creativeworld inside your head.
Remote viewing is a little bitdifferent.
This was the intelligenceapplication that the CIA thought
would give us the edge againstpeople like Russia during the
(04:10):
Cold War.
So imagine if I sealed up anenvelope with a photo inside of
it.
I don't even know what thephoto is and, james, I tell you,
go lock yourself in your closetand tell me what's inside this
envelope, but do it only withyour mind.
Some people can actually dothat.
That is the basis of remoteviewing.
Now, while it sounds hard tobelieve, I implore you guys to
(04:30):
go onto the CIA's website andjust type in remote viewing and
read their files.
There are thousands of caseswhere, just reading the files
alone, you would think it worksextraordinarily well.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
You know what I'm fascinated about and you know
the people that I've had on theshow is everything about the
Super Soul Model series is aboutreminding people of our
well-being, helping us tune andtap in to that infinite
potential that we are, which ismore than just our five senses.
So when it comes to somethinglike the idea of remote viewing,
that is just perhaps anothersense that we haven't yet, as a
(05:06):
human species, naturally tappedinto with everyday people.
It's something that you have tospecialize in and practice.
So I'm really fascinated aboutthe gateway tapes, but I'm even
more fascinated about whatyou're doing with septa sync.
But just to continue, before weget to know and learn way more
about your new sound frequencyand technology, tell us a little
(05:30):
bit about your experience.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah.
So the Gateway tapes hit melike a slap in the face.
That was one of the mostintense and mind-bending
experiences I've ever had.
So I've been in business a longtime.
I graduated school a bit earlyand I jumped right into
corporate America.
I've always dreamed of livingin a high rise and wearing suits
with the briefcases.
Since I was a little kid I'vealways dreamed for that.
(05:53):
So I got started early and Ihad a lot of failures, as any
entrepreneur does.
La.
This dude helped me out so muchand showed over the course of a
year that he has a very steadyand strong mind.
So he pulls me aside at adinner one night and says I'm
about to say something that'sgoing to sound crazy to you and
I need you to believe me.
(06:13):
I need you to think ofeverything you've seen me do
this past year and I need you tobelieve me.
And then he hands me a Walkmanand the gateway tapes on like
the original cassette, andexplains to me the out-of-body
experiences, all this stuff Tome.
I was a scientifically basedperson at the time and I'm
thinking this guy has a mentalillness and he masks it really
well and I'm rationalizing withmyself on the drive home.
(06:36):
I took the tapes and theWalkman and I'm thinking this
guy runs three businesses.
There is no way that he's crazy.
But he told me listen to thesetapes for every night for three
months and you will see a bigchange in your life and you will
see a big change in yourpurpose and that's how you'll
make your money.
So that's exactly what happenedto him.
I went in skeptical, startedlistening, nothing happened,
(06:57):
kept going and after about twoweeks, all of a sudden I'm
listening to these tapes and itwas like I'd fallen asleep.
But I was in one of the mostrealistic feeling dreams that I
have ever been in.
It was so real.
I came out of it thinking am Igoing crazy?
I didn't, you know.
It scared me.
It really scared me.
But in this dream I wasconversing with things.
(07:18):
They were telling me thingsabout life, about what would
happen to me over this next year.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
I'm really fascinated by this bit because a lot of
people may be thinking, Ethan,okay, who's talking to you?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
So, yeah, it was like I was in the most realistic
feeling dream ever.
If I didn't remember what lifewas like an hour ago while I was
in this experience, I wouldhave been convinced that that
was my normal everyday life.
It felt so real.
There's not human words todescribe what happened, but the
way I like to word it is it wasjust the most intense dream I've
(07:51):
ever experienced, with thetouch of unexplainable, which
we'll get to in a second.
But it wasn't like peopletalking to me.
It was like kind of like thesun in the distance, like
picture you're in a black roomand there's just a light, and
like that was just speaking.
Like you know, dreams don'treally make sense.
They're kind of weird.
That was a part of it.
However, it started telling methings that said you know,
(08:13):
you're in a desperate place.
You're meant to come here atthis time.
It got really mystical on me,which I was not receptive to at
the time, and it startsexplaining you need to talk
about what you're learning inthis place to other people, and
that is a huge part of yourpurpose in this world If you
want to have the success you'vealways dreamt of.
Put your phone in front of yourface and talk, and that was why
(08:36):
I started TikTok.
I mean, I called my sister andtold her I think I am
schizophrenic, I think I'm goingcrazy.
And she goes calm down, calmdown.
I saw you yesterday for dinner,you're totally fine, and I
explained what happened and shegoes you're a smart kid with a
good head on your shoulders,give me a few hours and she
starts researching the gatewaytapes, calls me back and says
hey, what happened to youhappens to most people.
(08:58):
Like that is roughly normal forthe realm of what you're doing,
and it took me two weeks.
It took me two weeks to evenprocess what happened and come
to terms that that was just adream.
However, this is the part Ican't explain the things that
told me what happened startedhappening and that still keeps
(09:20):
me up at night.
I mean, it said, for example,you're going to inherit
something from a close familymember that will start you on
this new chapter of your life.
I just started a business withan old iHeartRadio executive guy
Totally screwed me over.
I lost my house, lost my car,lost everything I had.
I had to move back in with myparents for a year.
Okay, and it tells me while I'min this dream, it says, like I
(09:42):
said, you will inherit somethingto start you on this new path.
Well, I lost everything I had,and my pretty healthy aunt
suddenly passed away and left mea phone that I filmed a phone
that I filmed these 4k videos onand enough money to buy a car,
because I just lost mine.
Okay and I thought you knowthat's a crazy coincidence, but
then these things kept happening.
It told me a list of seventhings and, um, all of them have
(10:05):
happened, even down tosepticink.
I didn't know I would createsepticink, but it said the
success will come from youtalking about this.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You're basically, whatever will happen to you will
be so heavily tied in thisrealm you'll already have a
following about it, and I juststill find that, uh, crazy and
unbelievable yeah, so it'salmost as if spirit or your soul
, your guides have been talkingto you in this very, very
relaxed state and I think that,from what I picked up, I've been
(10:39):
doing meditation for 20 years,every single day.
I've never missed a day, andit's amazing what seems to
surface when you get into thisreally beautiful relaxed state,
and I'm fascinated by how lifehas a way of being able to speak
to Ethan through this deeprelaxation and particularly when
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you've been in a troublesometime, did that feel really
reassuring to you to have all ofthis stuff?
Obviously it's crazy and feelsvery mystical, but did you feel
really reassured that someone'sgot your back at some level?
Speaker 2 (11:13):
no, not until more recently.
I mean, like I said, it was forsuch a scientific minded person
.
I could not believe that.
Um, and once I started watchingthe things actually happen,
that's when I started to feel alittle bit more comfort and it's
kind of slowly just stacked ontop of itself, but I had to see
it to believe it.
It said all these things wouldhappen.
(11:34):
It talked a lot of games, so tospeak, and, like I said, I sat
there thinking I'm crazy, youknow what?
What is happening to me?
I'm deteriorating, I wasworried, but now, um, I'd feel
stupid if I had said thatthere's not more to this world
than we can see.
There is so much more, and Iwould be an idiot to deny it at
this point.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I think that's beautiful and it's so nice to
have a rational mind and it's sohealthy, I believe, to be
skeptical until proven otherwise.
And I think that, when it comesto understanding who we are as
human beings and what we haveaccess to and some of the things
we don't even know we haveaccess to, I think that your
story makes it very, veryinteresting and have.
(12:17):
Do you continue to listen tothe gateway tapes anymore, or
have you kind of put them asidenow?
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I've kind of put them aside.
After everything startedhappening, I was really excited
to try to get back into thatstate and I cannot anymore.
Okay, you know, I think it was.
I think it was something thatwas supposed to happen when it
happened, and I've tried manytimes, but it's not something
I've been able to replicate.
It was just that that one ortwo times in the beginning I got
the cool experience and then ithas fizzled out.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
So so what was the sort of period of time between
you starting, uh, the gatewaytapes and hearing from your
mentor to now?
How long has that sort of timeframe been?
Speaker 2 (12:57):
about a year and two months.
Okay, my whole life has changed.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Okay, so in a year and two months, your life has
changed and your tiktok's blownup and people you know, what
you're investigating, whatyou're sharing, you know, is
enlightening to to a lot ofpeople who have have a healthy
dose of skepticism.
Um, to me, my mind is wide open, having been meditating for a
long period of time, but I'mstill fascinated to see that
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we're all on a circle, just atdifferent positions on a circle
looking at the same thing.
So I'm really fascinated.
So thank you so much forsharing that part of the gateway
process.
But tell us a little bit aboutyou and your backstory.
Why was this so important toyou to investigate the gateway?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
So it was mostly my business mentor and a mix of me
being desperate.
So I'm on my seventh business.
Um, I've failed a lot of themand most of them were kind of
outside of my control.
Like right before this, I heartradio guy screwed me over and
put me in the position I was inwhere gateway was all I had.
Yeah, um, I started a businesswith a guy in la.
He ran an exotic car rentalshop and on our grand opening
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day this dude just went missing.
Like we had to file policereports all kinds of things.
Um, I felt like I was cursedand at that point like, even if
my mentor was giving me snakeoil, it was free and it took an
hour of my time every day.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
I saw no harm in trying yeah, absolutely, and,
and you know, if there's no harmin it, no, no foul, no play.
And I think that that's againmaybe something learning along
the entrepreneurship, that theymay not always work, but if
you're being guided from ahigher perspective, which it
sounds like this new business is, I think the world is ready for
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Sceptasync.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
So tell us a little bit about this new sound
frequency technology that you'vecreated so septa sync also came
to me in a dream, a verydifferent and normal dream
compared to the gateway process.
So a sleep, like I said, asleeping dream.
A sleeping dream, yes I woke upat 2 am and just kind of wrote
down everything in my dream andthat was how I created septa
(15:03):
sync.
So while the gateway tapes usetwo or maybe four frequencies,
no one's positive.
Their pattern is very secretive, you know.
Like I said, uh, they'll playnine hertz in one ear and 11 in
the other and that creates onephantom sound in your brain of
the difference of the twonumbers.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I hope I'm making sense okay if we don't, I love
you be as specific as you can,because we're trying to catch up
and learn as we go along.
So you just fill us in with allthe details and the audience
and I will will take in thescience that's going on here
perfect.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
So best way to look at it is two slightly different
frequencies, one up here, one alittle bit down here, go into
each ear.
Your brain perceives them andbridges the gap, makes the two
sounds into one, a phantom sound.
When your brain does, itvibrates with the sound.
It changes your brainwaves.
So the Monroe Institute usestwo frequencies to make one.
Maybe they use four to make two.
(15:55):
Septasync uses 14 to make seven.
So it attacks every sleepcenter of the brain that we know
about.
And I don't even know howSeptasync works.
This is just how I think itworks.
Nobody knows why this evenworks.
It should not work.
That's the coolest part.
It should not work at all.
But septic puts six of the sixof the frequencies that act on
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your sleeping centers and yourcritical thinking areas to relax
them, and then every fiveminutes for 30 seconds I blast
30 hertz, which keeps youmentally stimulated, so your
body will fully fall asleep onyou while your mind stays awake.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
And it is such a trippy thing to experience.
Is this a bit like the movieInception to a certain extent?
You know, when ChristopherNolan was creating that, the
reason why he created the movieInception was because he said I
remember studying at college andjust like I needed to just
finish what I was doing and Ihad such little sleep and then I
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managed to find this littlesmall space where my body was
totally relaxed but my mind wasopen.
It was just this, almost thissmall peekaboo of a window of I
don't know if I'm asleep, Idon't know if I'm asleep, I
don't know if I'm awake.
Is that kind of similar?
What septicink is like?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
yes, actually.
So I was recently at a healthconference.
I had you know, septicink is a30 minute long.
30 minute long tapes.
There's eight of them and I hadto shorten it down as little as
I could so people could do livedemos.
I ended up at 11 minutes.
I used some eeg data.
I have to pull people out rightbefore they would start like
the dreaming portion of septic,and people were saying it's
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acting like sleepless rest,exactly what you just said like
their body fell asleep, theirminds did not and they felt like
they got the benefits of sleep,but they woke up with like zero
mental fog.
So it's neat you say that.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
I think they're very similar, similar yeah, I mean I,
I just tried the septa sinktake one before we did this
interview because I wanted tocome with a unique perspective
and not just hearsay.
And I have to say I thinktowards the very end of the tape
, before the wind starts comingin, I was like I think that I
felt like five minutes.
I was clear out but my body wasso relaxed, incredibly relaxed.
(18:11):
And I have tried brain hemisync, I have tried the gateway
process because of you, and I'vetried meditation, different
sound frequencies, all thedifferent sound frequencies.
I've got tuning forks, you nameit because I'm very auditory
and I make music as well, andthat was a gift.
I didn't even realize that Icould make music.
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So I play the ukulele and Iwrite and produce like dance
music, house music, and that'smy pleasure, that's my creative
outlet, that's just a bit of fun.
But when I hear thosefrequencies on Sceptasync it
feels very, very different tosome of the other things I've
ever come across.
So I'm absolutely fascinatedwhat you've created.
(18:54):
And I'm even more fascinatedbecause I know, when I've
studied the great minds of thepast, people like einstein and
newton and tesla and even youknow great minds of people are
always taking these littlesiestas.
They're always having theselittle naps and in these naps
they might just get a window ofan idea.
(19:17):
You know, lenny Kravitz said ona TV show in the UK a little
while ago he goes whilst I wasshooting the Hunger Games 3, I
suddenly got the idea for a song.
So I just got out the guitar,played a bit and suddenly I've
got a song and he goes.
I kept on going and for sixhours straight I wrote nine
tracks but I had to be on setand you know, half an hour later
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, so I didn't sleep all nightlong and the interview goes.
Weren't you tired?
And he goes.
Yeah, but I don't want to missthat download that comes through
.
He goes because you never knowwhen a creative piece of work
will come through.
So that album that came out, Idon't know, three or four years
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ago, as human beings, and whatyou've created, just as the
result of getting into that verydeep, relaxed state that's
alert and ready to take notes ifyou need to.
So, with that having been said,septicink, what do you think
the future of septa sync is?
(20:28):
And, you know, tell us a littlebit about some of the people's
experiences, because you knowone of your videos is
fascinating on the deaf clientthat you had.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah.
So I I really don't know wheresepta sync can take me.
I usually have a vision for thefuture and I am blanking badly.
I mean I have no clue what itdoes for the future.
And I am blanking badly, I meanI have no clue what it does.
Uh, science fundamentally saysthe multiple frequencies should
interfere and you know heavilyshould not work at all.
So right now, as we figure itout, I'm learning more and I'll
be able to kind of piecetogether the future.
(20:59):
But I have no idea, and that'skind of the coolest part right
now.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So you can be excited whilst everything's unfolding
right oh, yeah, oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
It's so exciting and septic sink is doing things to
people that we could not haveever expected.
So one of the biggest things iswith some deaf people and I'm
starting to realize I think ithas to be a certain type of deaf
or a certain type of hearingloss.
Okay, but I had a deaf lady.
She listens with cochlearimplants, so you know, through
vibration.
Deaf lady she listens withcochlear implants, so you know,
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through vibration.
Yeah, and she, you know shegets no effects from binaural
beats because the implantscannot convey the frequencies
like they're supposed to.
So she listened to septa sync.
It didn't work.
She was bummed and she thoughtwhat if I take out my power
banks and my implants?
She rips them out and shecouldn't even hear it.
She had, she said she had towatch her phone's slider bar
moving on the video to know thatit was playing.
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She just laid back and she hadthe full experience everybody
else does, being fully deaf.
So that tipped me off tosomething.
Septasync relies on audioprocessing, we think, but maybe
it doesn't.
If it's working on deaf peoplethat cannot truly process the
audio, that either means thather ears are still working and
there's a disconnect in thebrain somewhere or it's
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bypassing the auditory complex,which would be groundbreaking
and huge, massive.
So I'm at this health conferenceand I see a guy wearing hearing
aids and I tell him the story.
Hey, a deaf lady tried this.
All you do is listen.
It takes 11 minutes.
Please come give it a try.
I'll give you everything I'vecreated for free.
I just want to see what happens.
(22:35):
So this guy takes out hishearing aids, knocks out for 11
minutes and I wake him back up.
We're talking, we're talkingand he goes I can hear you.
And I was like, yeah, and he'slike my hearing aids aren't in.
I can hear you well.
And I was like, oh my God.
So we took a video and hebasically said like I don't
think I need this thing anymoreand puts it in his pocket.
And it's been two weeks and hestill has not put his hearing
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aids back in.
That's huge, like his hearingis better.
And it wasn't like he didn'tlose his hearing in a loud event
or like warfare or anythingcrazy like that.
It was just from aging.
So I'm trying to test it on areally diverse group of people
that have hearing loss, you know, like war veterans, people who
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have hearing loss from geneticdisorders and then elderly
people and it seems to beworking with people with like
genetic issues, like a lady thatkept getting ear surgeries
since a child.
She's found a lot of relief andsaid septicink is helping.
But I've also had people withtinnitus from being in the
military who are saying it isnot doing anything at all.
So I think it's really aspecific kind of hearing loss.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Okay, could it help with any sort of traumas and
things like that.
Do you think Would it helppeople relax at a deeper state?
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Personally I think so , and the reason being is
because your body falls asleepbut you still have the ability
to think through your problemsbecause your mind does not
follow the body into sleep and,in my opinion, just trying it
myself, working through yourproblems without a physical
emotional response is mucheasier and when your body's
asleep it does not get so workedup.
(24:08):
You can work through problemsthat would normally cause you a
lot of distress, but maybewithout all of the actual
distress interesting because thebody really holds on um to
emotional tension and pressure.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
You know you can.
You can see that in fasciarelease on when you're doing
like foam rolling you know I'veseen grown men cry foam rolling
and when they've had like verydeep tissue, because the muscles
and the body just absorb allheavy emotion.
So when your body's at absoluterest, like using septicink,
it's not, it's it's able toalmost not activate any of that
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distress or emotional actioninside the body.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
That's a fascinating potential scientific
breakthrough for people healingand coming back very, very
quickly well, and yeah, I livedthrough a shooting when I was
young, for example, and thatscrewed me up pretty bad.
You know, I did a lot oftherapy.
Um, I was part of likeexperimental therapies when,
like psychedelic treatment wasnew and stuff.
I was one of the youngestpeople that did that at the time
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and none of it it really worked.
I mean, the experimental stuffhelped, but more than anything
else, but nothing ever reallylike fixed me.
Like I still felt broken andwhen I was listening to the
gateway process that I stillwill credit the gateway process
to getting rid of most of mylike life altering, like PTSD
symptoms, after about two monthsof listening I woke up one day
(25:34):
and realized like I have notwoken up screaming in a long
time Like I I've.
I don't even feel like the sameperson that went through it.
It did something to my brain andI love the Monroe Institute for
that.
I will always vouch for theirtapes.
You guys should try themseriously.
It's incredible work.
But I think that the sync issimilar.
It just builds on that.
That's, that's my thoughts, butI think that the sync is
(25:54):
similar.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
It just builds on that.
That's my thoughts and I lovethat because you know it's.
You know 40, 50 years on, youknow, since the Monroe, and you
know technology's advanced alittle bit, and tweaking things
a little bit is never a badthing.
You know we need to evolve asspecies and we can evolve in
technology and I believe thattechnology, if we use it
correctly, can be one of ourgreatest allies if we be able to
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use it and program it correctly.
And I personally believe, andI've always thought, ever since
Star Trek first came out, theywere doing this thing.
When Star Trek goes back, youknow to, from the future, to a
modern day period, I think itwas like the 1980s at that time
and they said oh, your modes ofmedicine are so outdated.
(26:41):
Don't you recognize that soundfrequency is the future of all
healing, of where we come from,in whatever year it is?
You know from Star Trek and I'ma firm believer that sound
frequency is the future of a lotof healing and and I think that
what you've created and and alot of what's happening at the
gateway, is just the beginningof some of the things that we've
, we can learn and use to helpheal lots of people and help
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bring us greater peace as well,and I think that's important
because your journey of of thatptsd and not waking up terrified
in the middle of the night issuch a huge uh gain for you, and
now you're able to helppotentially millions of people
around the world with a similarbut perhaps updated version of
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the monroe tapes and while yousay sound frequency is the
future, I see it as the this isthe past we're just bringing to
now.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
I mean, everything is vibrating matter.
If you can vibrate at the samefrequency as something, you
could stick your hand straightthrough a wall and there would
be no tear in the wall, no tearin your hand.
You could literally phasethrough things, like the Flash
does in the comics.
I used to love those as a kid.
We use vibration for everything.
Boiling water vibrates, themolecules they.
(27:57):
It puts off heat.
Your water boils, um, thingsget cold.
They vibrate less.
Everything around us isvibrating.
Why have we not tried that onhumans?
I I think that all the time wewe use vibration to achieve
almost everything on this earth.
Yeah, why have we not used thaton humans?
That blows my mind.
This technology's been aroundsince the 80s and it's like
nobody even has looked into it.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
It feels like you know where someone asked me and
they go where are you from?
And I said I'm from the futureto come back to tell you it's
all good, right, I've said thatmany, many times and and I
really do believe that becausethank you for correcting me
earlier when you say it's thefuture, it's actually now.
But we often say that becauseyou know, this is the current
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reality that we think, thatwe're observing, which is.
But actually, where do all theideas come from?
They come from the quantumfield.
You know, where do the ideasfor a new TV show or a new story
, or a new healing modality?
They all come from the personwho's receptive, who has their
antennas up, who's receptive ofthe idea that can use it now and
(29:00):
so, exactly, and people liketesla.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
They were obsessed with ancient egypt because egypt
was obsessed with soundfrequencies.
And tesla while we thought hewas crazy when he was alive,
he's now recognized as one ofthe smartest people that has
touched this earth.
Um, he created an earthquakemachine.
Um, it doesn't cause afull-fledged earthquake, but if
you can feel the groundvibrating four football fields
away, that counts in my book.
(29:24):
Yeah, and he did all thisstudying ancient egypt, who had
a weird obsession with frequency.
But this, this stuff has beenaround.
I feel like.
I feel like it's been studiedand it was locked away,
classified for one reason oranother, but I have a hard time
believing nobody has looked intothis.
I have such a hard timebelieving that.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Well, totally, and I think that people try and look
it away or, if anything, theylook it away out of fear of what
people may discover.
But actually what we'rediscovering is that eventually,
we're all one.
We're all here to help eachother with our own gifts and
talents, and the sooner we dothat, the more joy that we
experience as human beings andwe can get on doing what we do,
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which is, you know, enjoyinglife.
Whilst it's a short amount oftime, we're physically here, so
we might as well enjoy it, and Ithink that trying to have
access to different frequenciesof I mean, what are words, words
of frequencies, you know, andwe're able to have this
conversation, that actuallyhappened before we got here and
(30:26):
that we had this conversation.
If we really look at quantumphysics, you and I had this
conversation already and we'rejust catching up with it now.
Everything all at once,everything all at once.
Right, it's already happenedand my excitement drew me to you
, my, my interest in, likehealing modalities and
(30:47):
understanding, you know, uh,wanting to know about what we
are capable of as human beingsand wanting to share that with
the audience, and wanting tohelp people improve the quality
of their life so much that they,in a year or so, will be a
completely different, evolvedperson, just like you've had.
And if it weren't for yourchallenges, you wouldn't be
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where you are now.
And I'm so excited for you,ethan, because you've got so
many wonderful things ahead.
The thing is, you've learnedalong the way and I think that's
magical.
So, scepticink, do you thinkyou'll create anything else from
Scepticink?
I know it's just come out.
It came out about a month ago,is that right?
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Yeah, like a month and six days or eight days or
something.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
We are brand new still, yeah you're brand new and
I'm telling you guys, you'vegot to listen to the, the, the,
the septic sink.
You know it's got eight, eighttracks, but the first one really
got me already.
You know, just half an hour inyou're going to really relax and
just be open, but you'veobviously got to have headphones
(31:51):
and it really will put you intoa very good feeling state.
My question is is where do youthink you're going to go with
SEPTA sync?
Do you think you could find ordiscover new frequencies to help
heal other types of challengespeople may be having?
Speaker 2 (32:06):
Well, yeah, that's.
The coolest part is, as Iunderstand how this works better
and figure out you know whySEPTA sync works with
multilayered binaural beats, ifI can replicate that in the
opposite.
For know why septa sync workswith multilayered binaural beats
, if I can replicate that in theopposite.
For example, like I've createdmimicking sleep with sound
frequencies, if you can get itto work in other areas, you can
mimic almost anything you want.
I mean you could trick the bodyinto feeling any kind of way
(32:29):
it's actually scary when youthink about it too hard Like you
want to make one that won't letyou sleep.
That is completely doable aslong as you have the base
science worked out.
Like septicink might work bychance.
You know people have tried manytimes to multilayer binaural
beats and you get all kinds ofnoisy brain interference.
Something about septicink worksand just applying that to other
(32:51):
areas.
I mean you.
You can do so much with it.
You could.
You could make yourself feellike you're on a roller coaster
and you could be laying in yourbed.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
You just have to have the right frequencies to affect
the sensory systems in theright way you know, going back
to you know the gateway, havingfour frequencies in septa sync,
having 14, is that correct?
Yeah, 14.
Tell us a little bit about thefrequencies, because I remember
in a video you were explainingyou like you were told this is
(33:18):
the frequency you've got to use,because the listeners need to
hear this, I believe.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
Yeah, so the dream I had that gave me the idea.
Well, it didn't give me theidea.
I got spoon fed theinstructions to make this.
That's the biggest reason why Idon't know how this works.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
I wrote it better, better.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
So you're not even claiming it to be yours.
Right, you?
I feel weird.
If I did, I did most of mylearning about this after I
created it.
I started learning why is thiseven working?
And found out it shouldn't.
That's, you know, confusing.
Yeah, I was winning some kindof award in my dream, like a
nobel prize or somethingscience-based.
You know the audience they werewearing lab coats and had like
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goggles on.
It was pretty exaggerated and Ikept saying, like I unlocked a
new area of research in thebrain.
I'm giving a speech and I saidI use these frequencies.
I'd start listing them off,like 140 and 145, 215 and 218,
and I listed off so many numberswoke up and they were still in
my head.
I wrote them down and like forlike two weeks it was like a
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song on loop in your head.
I was just hearing what Italked about in my dreams.
Did you know what these?
Speaker 1 (34:17):
frequencies were.
Had you ever known about thesefrequencies or what they do?
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Yes, from researching the Gateway tapes, okay, alpha
beta theta kind of low tomid-range, and then there's a
few that are like way up therewhich, um, I don't think I
wouldn't think would fit well,but I think that's what makes it
work, like uh frequency perhaps, yeah, yeah, a lot of them are
(34:44):
over 30 hertz.
Uh, three of them are.
Which, again, it it's.
It's such they're so spread farapart they should really
interfere with each other.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
It's a quite a big mystery so there's something
that I've sort of done on myresearch right with when it
comes to understandingbrainwaves, professional
athletes, people hitting flowstates.
You know that what I found isthat particularly tennis is one
of my favorite joys, right, butwhat I've noticed, and when I've
been watching interviews, isparticularly with tennis players
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, because they have to go fromadversity and then turn it
around fairly quickly.
It's a one man sport or a onewoman sport, and then they just
literally have to take thebounce on something that didn't
go well on a point and then theyhave to come back.
And they found that the veryhigh echelon tier players hit a
brainwave frequency of gamma alot and however they hit that,
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they're able to return to thattime and time again.
And so by Pareto's rule, theyseem to be the ones that
continually tend to win becausethey're hitting this brainwave
frequency of which you'reputting in this frequency on
septa sync.
That's fascinating.
So that means we could havehigher performing versions of
ourselves just by tuning intothese frequencies.
(36:03):
Is that the correct science?
The way I'm listening to it tomy understanding.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Uh, yes, I mean, like I said, you could recreate
anything if you make it work.
That's the beauty of themulti-layered binaural beats is,
instead of just doing one thing, now you can do multiple, as
long as you can replicate it inthe opposite fashion of septa
sync.
So, for example, like race cardrivers, if you have a frequency
that keeps them in the flowstate when they do like those
four hour endurance races, thatwould probably get banned so
(36:32):
fast if it works because itwould be.
It would be like cheating, likeum.
Cigarettes used to be huge inrally racing back in the 80s
because it's a stimulant.
These guys would chain smokeand then go race at like 120
miles an hour on a dirt roadcraziest thing ever, yeah, and
they banned cigarettes becauseand people who didn't smoke
always lost um, and I think thatcould be a very similar thing.
(36:54):
It's like um, okay interesting.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Externally very interesting yeah so there was a
race car driver of formula one.
Uh, I was watching hisinterview.
He's an old boy, he's an oldguy and he said that I didn't
really mind racing at allbecause what I enjoyed wasn't
necessarily the winning althoughthe winning is great, he goes.
I just enjoyed the way I felt,driving at like 140 miles an
(37:20):
hour, you know, around Monaco.
You know very quickly, and hegoes.
It was just.
I know I was going so fast, butI felt so slow.
You know, I felt like I couldjust feel every turn.
I knew the track, I knew whatwas on the track, I could feel
my whole environment.
It was as if that environment,myself and the car were all one
(37:42):
package, just flying around thistrack and he goes.
I love to race because of thatfeeling that I get.
So I'm fascinated.
That frequency, the feeling, isa frequency.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I don't know probably , I mean I mean it's our brain
waves changing that shouldlikely have an effect on
emotions.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I don't see why it wouldn't yeah and that means
correct me if I'm wrong if it'sokay to say that if we have any
distress in our life, that whenwe hit a new frequency we don't
have access to that emotionalheaviness because we're in a
different state.
(38:31):
I mean, I call it like a swipecard access.
If you're on a differentfrequency because you're so
relaxed, you don't have accessto stress because you're so
relaxed.
So it's like with septicink.
This is my interpretation of itand I've only listened to it
once.
But you know, I've beenmeditating for a very long
period of time and what I see isyou just suddenly swipe the
(38:52):
deep relaxation card and, as aspecies, we find it very
difficult to relax.
We find it very difficult toswitch off, because we're always
being stimulated by somethingthese days and, whilst that's
normal, when we do actuallylearn or switch off the body, I
think we have access tosomething phenomenal I think we
(39:14):
have access to in spiritualterms, to listening to your soul
.
I think you have access toreceiving great ideas, which is
what you've done and you know,in professional sports, people
have access to playing in flow Imean, I think I yeah, I have to
(39:34):
agree sound frequencies can doso much to the brain and body.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
We just have not researched at all.
Um, I think it's our mostpowerful tool we have, most
definitely.
I mean, I love, I love drivingcars, like you were talking
about that race car driver.
I know that feeling like I go.
I go to racetr tracks as oftenas I can.
I grew up on a mountain pass,used to drive the crap out of it
every day.
You're nice and there's not anot a better feeling.
(40:01):
And now, like dude, I havecochlear headphones.
They bounce off your cheekbones.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna put onlike some gamma frequencies next
time I go race and see if I dobetter or not and will you let
us know, let us know like how do?
Speaker 1 (40:13):
you get on, because you know a lot of this.
As you know, as a human family,we want to go.
Hey, I think this kind of works, or it works for me, you know.
Um, I always see tennis playerswhen they, before they go on,
they listen to music to getpumped up.
But what if they startedlistening to gamma rays before
they get on and start playingthe US Open or whatever, or
Wimbledon?
I'm fascinated to see you know.
(40:35):
So if someone's tuning in, youknow, why not give it a go?
See how you get on?
You've got nothing to loseright?
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Yeah, I live close to a go-kart racing place too.
I might go test this out today.
My curiosity's peaked all of asudden.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Well, if you love racing, I think that you've
created something reallybeautiful.
Ethan, it's been absolutelyamazing talking to you.
Is there anything that you'dlike the audience to to to know
a little bit more about that youthink would help them?
And ethan, take away perhaps?
Speaker 2 (41:06):
I mean, I'll reiterate from earlier.
I have no idea how septic works, but I will say this we live in
a world of frequency,vibrations and electromagnetic
fields.
There's no reason we should notbe trying sound frequencies on
everything.
I mean a tree catching on fireand burning is literal, causing
vibration that deteriorates thetree.
(41:27):
Everything in nature happensfrom frequency or vibration.
We need to test this on peoplemore.
Be open to it.
I guess that's all I got.
Speaker 1 (41:36):
I love your genuine and authenticity.
You know you bring such aninteresting vibe to the equation
and such a clarity on the soundfrequencies and I love learning
about the science behind.
You know the frequencies andeverything like that.
You've been absolutely amazingto speak to.
This week's Super model isethan frice.
(41:57):
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