Hall of Fame Worthy Artists, Songs That Make You Crank It Up, and Country Music News

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As always, before we getstarted, let me tell you about
the question of the day.

Please.

Jay Franze (01:03):
The question of the day.
What track do you blast as soonas you hear the opening note?
Do not answer now.
Wait till a little later in theshow.
And if you would like toparticipate in our reindeer
games, go ahead and please putyour comments in the comment
section.

I'm very excited.
Tonight I only have one answer.

Jay Franze (01:23):
That is a plus.

Unless I hear somebody else's and it sparks
something more.

Jay Franze (01:29):
Yeah, not like it.
We have a jam-packed show foreverybody tonight.
So if there was ever a nightfor you to stick through till
the end, this would be it.
If you have not been part ofthe show in the past, we do this
thing here we call ArtistSpotlight, where we go ahead and
spotlight an artist, a song, oreven a website.
Tonight we're going to put alittle bit of a spin on that
based off of last week'sepisode.
It is a must, must, mustlisten.

(01:53):
So you must hang around.

Must.

Jay Franze (01:56):
Must.
Did we get that across yet?
Must.
All right.
But we're going to start offwith this article I found.
It is 60 surprising artiststhat are not in the Country
Music Hall of Fame.

How could there be 60?

Jay Franze (02:11):
60 surprising artists that are not in the
Country Music Hall of Fame.
We are not going to go throughall 60.
We are not going to go throughall 60, but we are going to go
ahead and just hit some of thehighlights.
For example, Alison Crouse.

Yeah, that is surprising.
She did make the list of the 20most influential influential
peoples in country music.

Jay Franze (02:37):
Yeah, she was on that list.
I think, and she sat exactlywhere we expected her to be,
kind of mid-range on the list.

Agreed.

Jay Franze (02:44):
So yeah.
It's kind of surprising.
I mean, granted, she's not 100%country music.
She kind of falls under thebluegrass category, but there is
bluegrass music in the countrymusic hall of fame.

Right.
Right.

Jay Franze (02:56):
Now here's one that should be in there.

The question is (02:58):
do we think it should be now or later?

Okay.

Jay Franze (03:02):
Blake Shelton.

No.

Jay Franze (03:06):
You think so?

What are the requirements to get into the
Country Music Hall of Fame?

Jay Franze (03:12):
I hate you.
I had the requirements.
Where are they?
Welcome to my world, folks.
I say this is a show you wantto stick around for.
When I said it, I meant it.
This is the show you want to bearound for.
Here it is.
Sorry.
Counter music qualifications.
Categories.
You have to be a modern eraartist.
Blake Shelton.

(03:34):
Yeah.
Could also be a veteran eraartist.
Blake Shelton.
That's where I don't know ifhe's a veteran yet.
I mean, how many years do weconsider being part of it?
Oh, I don't have to guess.
It says right here.
40.

Oh.

Jay Franze (03:49):
So he's not a veteran level.
But he is a modern era, whichis 20 years.
So 20-year qualification.
So he meets that qualification.
Could be a songwriter who'swritten a significant body of
work.

Oh.

Jay Franze (04:06):
You can be a recording or touring musician.

Okay.

Jay Franze (04:10):
So, but if you're a session player, an
instrumentalist, or a touringmusician, you must have made a
lasting impact.

I thought you were going to say you must have
made a specific amount of money.

Jay Franze (04:20):
You must be loaded.
We know that wouldn't work.
Nobody makes money in the musicindustry.
Very few people, anyway.
As far as a non-performer, youcan be a producer, a manager, a
promoter.
However, you must haveinfluenced country music in some

(04:40):
way.

Interesting.
Okay.

Jay Franze (04:43):
I could see that.

Okay.

Jay Franze (04:45):
General expectations.
You have made some sort of asignificant impact in country
music, meaning majorcontributions in the growth of
the music industry.

Okay.
I mean, Blake Shelton had somedrama with Miranda.
Yes.
And then he has the first time.
I don't think that's on herefor a qualified speech.

Jay Franze (05:07):
Do you have any drama in your life?
Yeah.
Oh, silly me.
That's bullet point numberfour.
Bullet point number four.
Do you have any drama?

Yes.

Jay Franze (05:17):
No.
Body of work.
Your body of work should belasting.
You should have a lastingcatalog with more than two hits.

I think Blake has that.

Jay Franze (05:25):
Yeah, he definitely has that for sure.
You have to have a culturalinfluence.
Well, there's your bar.
Bar on Broadway's culture.
You can be a voting member ofthe CMA.

I thought you said boating.

Jay Franze (05:39):
Yes, boating.
You must have a good boat.

Do you have a yacht?

Jay Franze (05:42):
Can you get on the water?
Can you take the golf cart tothe yacht for the weekend?
Typically have three newmembers per year.
One in each rotating category.
Modern veteran and one of theother three.
Okay.
I'm gonna write that down.
Again, just to remind everybodymodern and veteran, and then the
other three are songwriter,recording or touring musician,

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and then the non-performer.
Now that we know thestipulations, we can go back.

Now I can give my educated opinion.

Jay Franze (06:14):
Okay, so we started with Alison Krause.
Allison Krause has had alengthy career, even though most
people wouldn't think of hercareer as being lengthy.
I don't think it's 40 years,but she's definitely 20 plus
years.
She's made an impact, she's wonGrammys, she's highly
respected.
I would say definitely belongsin the Hall of Fame.
I would also say Blake Shelton,I think he will belong in the

(06:38):
Hall of Fame.
I think it's like anythingelse.
I don't think it's past histime.
I don't think anybody should bescreaming yet.
He's playing a Paul Reed Smithin this picture.
It's a guitar, it's a very niceguitar.
Probably my favorite electricguitar.
Ooh, here's a surprising onetoo.
Brad Paisley.

Oh, yeah.

Jay Franze (06:59):
Again, not 50 years, but the modern era, he should
be in there for sure.
Plus, he's an amazing guitarplayer.
He fits multiple categories.
But he is obviously known as anentertainer.
Um no.
Every time it gets me everytime.
The chicks.

I should have remembered.
I mean a strong visceralreaction every time.

Jay Franze (07:25):
I think they're talented, and you know, I give
them respect for their talentand their songwriting abilities,
and even their performing, theythey were good.
I don't think they're Hall ofFame good.

I would agree.
And I think that they cheapenedthemselves with all the
political crap that went on.

Jay Franze (07:42):
I think it was uh a black eye, in my opinion.
You can get past the black eye,but they didn't seem to put too
much effort to get past theblack eye either.
They just were like, whatever,we'll we'll wait 20 years and
people forget about it.
Yeah.
Here's a surprising one, andthis could be our first one that
could potentially be close tothe 50-year mark.
Clint Black.

(08:04):
Oh.
Close to the 50.
I don't think he's there yet,but close for sure.
He definitely has had a numberof hits.
He's been an amazing touringartist for a long time.
We mentioned last week he's oneof the first artists to ever
write all of the songs that wereon their album.

Yeah, I was trying to recall what we had
said last week, but yes, that'swhat it was.

Jay Franze (08:24):
I like him a lot.
Now, here's one that meets the50-year mark.
Crystal Gale.

Oh man.
But I don't think I know enoughof her music to say that.

Jay Franze (08:41):
I don't know.
I think she should be there.
It says, unlike her sisterLoretta Lynn and Gil embraced
pop country scoring 20 numberone hits.
20 number one hits and CMA andACM awards, and still doesn't
get in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (08:59):
Come on.

Diamond Rio Credentials like those.

Jay Franze (09:03):
Right.
Diamond Rio's another one.
How long have they been?
Uh let's see.
It says they've been eligiblefor the Hall of Fame since 2011.
So that must be the 20-yearmark.

Yeah, because I was gonna say I don't think that
they're 50, but oh no,definitely not.

Jay Franze (09:21):
They were big in the 90s.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (09:24):
Dirk Spentley's on the list.
Dirk Spentley is another onelike Blake Shelton.
Even if he does qualify, Ithink it's too soon.
I mean, granted, he's just madeit over his 20-year mark.

I mean, they say they need a modern, but yeah,
but I mean he's just there.

Jay Franze (09:38):
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
I don't say he doesn'tnecessarily qualify, but I don't
think it's too late.
I think I think we have time.

Okay.
They shouldn't be crying intheir Cheerios yet.

Jay Franze (09:49):
And he's good, but is he Hall of Fame good?
I mean, we can't say everybodyis Hall of Fame good.
Oh, here's what Dwight Yoakum.
He meets the 50 year mark.

And he's been on the charts, on the indie charts.
He's yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he's yeah.

Jay Franze (10:09):
He's definitely a staple.
I would say Dwight Yochumbelongs in the Hall of Fame.

I think so.

Jay Franze (10:15):
Faith Hill.
Faith Hill.

Oh, I think she should be on there.

Jay Franze (10:20):
Oh, she's good.
I don't know.
Is she Hall of Fame good?
Jason Aldean.
Oh again, good, but is he hallof fame good?
He's one of my favorites.
But is he hall of fame good?

Yes, yes.

Jay Franze (10:35):
Okay.
Is it too soon?

Yes.

Jay Franze (10:39):
He just became eligible this year.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (10:43):
So why why is it surprising that he's not in
there yet?
Again, when you're making theselists, people, let's be a
little bit better at it.
Oh, here's a good one.
Jody Messina.
And she's playing a Paul ReedSmith as well.
Oh PRS.

This girl, Jodi Messina, she's making some funny
TikToks.
Oh, reels.
They're reels.
Same thing.
Some on Instagram.
They are funny though.
You should follow her.
She did that song, Cause I LoveYou.
Oh, you know, and I something,something.
Oh.
Anyways, those are kids.

(11:23):
And so every time it would go,oh, her kid would she pull a kid
up and then she'd push him backdown.
She got some funny reels outthere.
Yeah.

Jay Franze (11:32):
She's a Bostonian.
Makes sense.

She's entertaining.

Jay Franze (11:35):
Oh, John Denver.
Now again, he's one I alwaysthought of as folk.
Yeah.
But still country-ish.
Even says on here pop folk.
However, I think he's Hall ofFame worthy only because of the
impact he made.

That's what I think.
Yeah.

Jay Franze (11:55):
John Michael Montgomery.

I don't know if I think that he's Hall of Fame
worthy, but I think that he isgood.
I mean, if they said he wasbeing inducted, I wouldn't be
surprised.

Jay Franze (12:11):
I think he's great.
I don't know if I would have.
Again, only because you can'tlist everybody.
Right.
Unless it's just, hey, you metthe bar.
Yeah.
If we're just talking aboutmeeting the bar, he definitely
meets the bar.
But if we're if we're saying,you know, hey, we can only take
three people this year, are yougoing to be one of those three?

Let's keep looking.

Jay Franze (12:34):
No, he's playing a Takamini, and you would like it.
It's got a flag on it.

Oh.

Jay Franze (12:39):
It's a beautiful looking guitar.
And it's a Takamini.
We discussed it the other day.
Keith Urban.
Yes.
But too soon.
He is five years into hiseligibility.

Still too soon.

Jay Franze (12:56):
I would agree with that.

I almost don't even like the modern category.
Like I feel like it should justbe veterans.

Jay Franze (13:02):
Well, I think if you're in the Hall of Fame,
you're in the Hall of Fame.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Jay Franze (13:07):
Alright.
Leigh Ann Rhymes.
She's been on the list.
She was on the 20 mostinfluential women.
I think she deserves to be onthe list.

I do too, because it says the impact on country
music.
Was she 14, I think, when shewas discovered and she was doing
the Yodelin thing?

Jay Franze (13:24):
And she's been eligible since 2016.
She's a teen star that became avocal powerhouse.
I agree with those statements.

Yep.
I also think How Do I LiveWithout You was by her.
And I think that that was a bigwedding song.
I mean, my sister had it at herwedding, but I think I just
remember, you know, like thatwas one of the most popular
songs to have at your weddingfor three or four years or
whatever.

Jay Franze (13:52):
All right, next, Leanne Womack.

Mm-mm.
Oh man, you're hard.

Jay Franze (13:58):
She's been eligible since 2017.
I hope you dance.
That is one of the best songsever.

It is a really good song.
But is that all we have?

Jay Franze (14:07):
But Tiffany says, no, you out.
She says, do something else youwant to be in the Hall of Fame.
Earn it, girl.
Earn it.
So Tiffany also said no to thisnext one.
This next one has been eligiblesince 1990.
Lee Greenwood.

Oh, and never say no to Lee Greenwood.

Jay Franze (14:27):
I didn't know.
If you think of Lee Greenwood,you think of God bless the USA.

Amen.

Jay Franze (14:35):
However, you'd be missing a lot of good popular
country music.

Yes.
When I got that record, therewere so many that came up Fool's
Gold.
That's such a good song.

Jay Franze (14:47):
He's a two-time CMA male vocalist of the year
nominee.
20 top 10 records.

I believe it.

Jay Franze (14:54):
You know what's funny?
I had never known who he was.

Until me.

Jay Franze (15:00):
Well, no, not so probably Andy and other people.
Right around that time whenAndy started working for him.

Now Clint Black.

Jay Franze (15:11):
Now Clint Black.
Nice.
Look at you.
You can be learned.
Martina McBride.
Not my favorite, but absolutelybelongs in the Hall of Fame.
I say not my favorite.
I respect the hell out of her,and she's as talented as can be.
She just doesn't sing songsthat I particularly connect

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with.

There's not enough screaming aggression.

Jay Franze (15:40):
You know me so well.
Oh, Montgomery Gentry.
Both brothers Montgomery.
If not for Brooks and Dunn,Montgomery Gentry would be in
the Country Music Hall of Famealready.

Were they kind of rivals or something?
I feel like.

Jay Franze (15:54):
Don't tell me that because if they were rivals, I'd
have to side with Burks andDunn.
Oh.
Pam Tillis.
Oh, Pam Tillis.
Andy Hull, Jeff King, ScottieSimpson, a lot of the people who
have been on our show haveplayed in her band.

Which means her music is awesome.

Jay Franze (16:11):
Oh, there you go.
Yeah, she belongs in there forsure.
Uh-huh.
Rascal Flats, Tucson.

Too soon.
I don't know.
I I feel like they're on theborder.

Jay Franze (16:20):
Yes.
I mean, I think Joe Don Rooney,great guitar player, I say that
a lot.
He's a great guy.
I personally I just I can't getinto their music.
Now, what's funny is Dan andShay sound just like Rascal
Flats.

Yep.

Jay Franze (16:35):
I don't know why I like what I like.

Well, I think Rascal Flats is a little bit
more cheesy or tenderhearted oryeah.

Jay Franze (16:45):
Which you would think I would like, right?
All the sappy love songs Iwrote through the 80s.

Whereas like Dan and Shay have the same sound,
but I think that their topicsare a little bit more direct,
mature, yes.

Jay Franze (16:59):
Roseanne Cash.
Roseanne Cash is a good one tostop on, don't you think?
Oh no, we can't.
Damn.
Sarah Evans is next.

Oh.

Jay Franze (17:08):
I think both of those should be in the Hall of
Fame.
Sarah Evans.
Yeah.
Yes, absolutely.
I love her to death.
I'm not even going to look atthe next one.
We're going to call it there.
We're going to move on to thenews.
I lied.
I moved on.
Shania Twain.

Oh.

Jay Franze (17:23):
Come on.

She's got to be on there.

Jay Franze (17:25):
That woman is.

She could be on there now.

Jay Franze (17:28):
She should be on there already.
She, hands down, her and GarthBrooks are the two artists that
brought eyes back to countrymusic in general.
If for nothing else, theyshould be on the list.
Shannon Doe, Steve Warner,Terry Clark, Tim McGraw, Grace
Atkins, Tracy Lawrence, TravisDritt, Tristy Yearwood.

(17:52):
I can't stop.
It's like an addiction.
Please move on to the news.

Kenny Chesney, Kenny Chesney.
Hopefully he's not on the list.

Jay Franze (18:00):
I'm sure he is.
You want me to go on that list?
If Tim McGraw, Trisha Yearwoodare on the list.
Yeah.
You know Kenny Chesney's comingup.
Oh no, that can't be right.
Oh no, thank God.
We came to the end of the list.
Why Nona John was the last one.
But the next person I saw wasGeorge Strait.
I'm like, no way in L, butthat's a different article.

Well, for now, we're gonna talk about Kenny
Chesney.
He's gonna be back at thehigh-tech sphere in Vegas,
promising an even more immersiveexperience for his shows next
year, with production levelsrising and fan demands still
high.
This is shaping up to be one ofthe country's biggest arena
spectacles.

Jay Franze (18:40):
I mean, I like his music when it's on, but I
wouldn't choose to put it on.

Yeah, I agree with you.
It's um it's two like beachyvibes, which even down in
Florida, right?
Like I still got like dailylife going on.
If I'm going on vacation, Iwill put some Kenny Chesney on.

Jay Franze (18:56):
Bob's worked with him, Bob Bullock.
I've never had the opportunityto work with him.
I have met him on occasion, hewas a nice guy.
But one thing that I think isfunny, he has never worn the
same cowboy hat on stage twice.

Well, I mean, kind of good.
Those boys sweat a lot.

Jay Franze (19:14):
Well, do you think he's throwing them in the crowd,
or do you think he's just got aroom full of you know 5,000
cowboy hats?

I think he has a room of 5,000 cowboy hats.

Jay Franze (19:23):
I hope he's throwing them in the crowd.
I hope you're wrong.

Well, the only reason why I say that maybe he's
not is because, or he does itat the last song.
Otherwise, you got your sweatyhead exposed for the rest of the
show.
Why don't you give your hataway?

Jay Franze (19:36):
He's bald too.
He's not throwing, I mean,maybe he puts his baseball hat
on or something.
Maybe because he also he wearsa baseball hat a lot outside of
the performances.
I don't know.

Yeah, that's funny.
I was making some artwork todayand I was trying to find a
cowboy singer, like I was inCanva, you know, and I'm like
cowboy singer, male countrymusic artist, like all these
things, trying to get a male,you know, because there's tons
of chick silhouettes orwhatever.

Jay Franze (19:59):
Of course there are.

Yeah.
And uh there was one with abaseball hat on, and I was like,
no, country singers wear cowboyhats.
And then I was like, well, letme go check out his Instagram.
So I'm buzzing through hisInstagram.
Sure enough, he's got a ballcap on and all of his
performances.
And I thought, all right, ballcap it is bald cap.
Bald cap.
Bald cap.
This guy's young, so baseballhat.

(20:22):
Baseball hat.
All right.
Well, the next thing I want totell you about is Mr.
Chris Young.
He is unveiling his 10th album,I didn't come here to leave,
signals a fresh chapter in hiscareer with a new project under
the label Black RiverEntertainment, pointing to
deeper songs with renewedenergy.
He says this record isn't justanother release, it's a

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statement with emotional tracksand a new creative direction.
And we actually had Chris Youngcome up when we were talking to
Robbie Johnson.
And since then, you know, it'syour reticular activating
system.
He must just be like on myradar because all of a sudden
I'm hearing Chris Young, ChrisYoung, Chris Young, Chris Young.
I'm like, wait, oh, maybebecause he has a new album

(21:06):
coming out.
I'm like, what is the deal withhis name resurfacing?
Because I feel like he's kindof gone away a little bit or
like in the background a littlebit.
Yeah, and so it wasinteresting.

Jay Franze (21:18):
And he's good.
I I like him.
I like him a lot.
He's uh another one.
I know we talk about AmericanIdol, we talk about the voice
and now the road, but beforethat, there was also a show
called National Star.
Yes, he was on that.
He actually won it.

I think one of my favorite songs of my life is
from that show.
Really?
What if it all goes right?
Good song.
Okay, well, speaking of GeorgeStrait, he is the king of
country, and he is returning toClemson's famed memorial stadium
for a special in-the-roundevent on May 2nd, 2026,

(21:57):
alongside Cody Johnson andspecial guest Wyatt Flores.
Have you heard of Wyatt Flores?

Jay Franze (22:03):
I have not.

I have not either.
So I guess he's out of Oklahomaand uh he kind of just always
loved country music.
And when he turned 18 or 19, hemoved to Nashville and made
great connections.
So he's off and running.

Jay Franze (22:19):
I know we were talking about the Nashville
producers.
We were talking about BobBullock and Dan Huff and those.
But if we go back, even BobBullock days, there was Tony
Brown, and Tony Brown produced alot of the George Strait
records, and he produced them inSoundstage, which is the studio
next to the school.

(22:40):
We've discussed that on anumber of occasions, right there
on music row.

Cool.

Jay Franze (22:44):
So it's pretty cool.
Tony Brown was still an amazingproducer.

Um, it's actually the first concert at the venue
in over 25 years.
It's a big moment for fans oftraditional country music for
live experience.
I felt like there was likesome, you know, under rumbles
about Bad Bunny being thehalftime show performance for
the Super Bowl.

Jay Franze (23:09):
Right.

And people are saying, you know, we'd love to
have George Strait replace him,and there's been a petition, I
guess.
I'm sure that they have alreadypaid too much money and signed
contracts and all that goodstuff.
But nothing would be betterthan having George Strait come
out and not Bad Bunny.

Jay Franze (23:28):
Nice.
Hate mail goes to Tiffany atGFriendy.com.
I'm I'm good yet.
I mean, it's it's a halftimeshow.
Would I prefer George Strait?
Absolutely.
But you know, hey.

Also, though, if you put an artist like Bad
Bunny, I can't remember who itwas last year, and I should
remember because there was allthe ruckus, but that's the
point.
It's gonna cause drama and it'sgonna cause buzz and posts and
tweets and TikToks and all thethings that they want to come
from it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So they're playing their cardsright, they're playing the

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marketing game.
Nice.
They're not playing thecrowd-pleasing game.
Well, Gretchen Wilson isopening up about her early days
with Cody Johnson.
I guess they had a littlesquabble.
They were doing some showtogether and they were
squabbling over who was gonnaget to take over the stage
during their performance.
Regardless, it didn't beginsmooth, but she and he now are

(24:27):
fans of each other, actually.
She's saying that he's one ofthe hottest shows right now, and
it reminds us that even countrymusic stars have rocky starts
before harmony kicks in.
I guess that kind of stuff iskind of interesting because you
got to think some egos possiblyget in the way.
And I'm sure.
Yeah, oh yeah.

Jay Franze (24:45):
Especially if somebody gets picked for a tour
over you, or you know, you startbattling, or why'd they win the
award first, or well, how comethey're in the hall of fame now
and I'm not?

Yeah.

Jay Franze (24:54):
I'm sure all those I've heard those conversations,
I know they exist.
And there's a lot of behind thescenes beefs and stuff, but I
like to I like to think thatit's all in competitive spirit.
I don't think anybody does itmaliciously.

No, I agree.
I agree.
It's just egos and I mean alsolike think if you're coming up
and you're in your 20s or your30s, usually 20s, you have a lot
to prove to the world.
By the time you get to be oldfogies like us, you're like
whatever.
Think whatever you want tothink.
But you know, when you'retrying to make it and you're
trying to make an image foryourself and all those things,

(25:31):
your ego is not your amigo, andit really works against you when
you're fighting for the stage,I guess.
Uh, speaking of GretchenWilson, though.

Jay Franze (25:40):
Speak of her.

Yeah, I'm gonna speak of her.

Jay Franze (25:42):
Go ahead.
Let's discuss.

I got to watch uh The Road.
I was so excited to watch it.
Like I couldn't even, like justeven watching the opening
segments or whatever.
I had just the biggest smile onmy face.
Why did we watch it?

Jay Franze (25:57):
Why did we watch it?

I watched it because Billy Joe Jones is on
there, and I am gonna cheer herall the way to victory.
I cannot wait.
Also, just excited to see adifferent side of Keith Urban
and Blake Shelton and see themas people.
And there were some prettycandid moments that I was like,
ah, okay, I see you.
I see you being kind of funnyand like a little bit of your
personality coming through.

(26:19):
Because in their music, we justhear the lyrics and the
performance, and and that's it.

Jay Franze (26:23):
They're both nice guys, but Blake Shelton, holy
cow! I mean, he's pretty forwardin front of the camera.
He is balls out behind thecamera.

So I'm talking about balls out.
Okay.

Jay Franze (26:40):
All right, moving on.

Left turn.
Okay, uh, but yeah, GretchenWilson is the like stagehand or
whatever, so she's like reallyencouraging them and walking
them.
What stage hand?

Jay Franze (26:53):
She's the manager, but someone made a comment for a
woman who just got her GED afew years ago.
How does she qualify as beingthe manager?
I'm like, really?
It's a first of all, it's a TVshow, people, but second of all,
why would you bring upsomebody's education like that?

Well, it's not even relevant though, because
like it's one of those thingswhere it's experience over
education.
It has nothing to do with theeducation.
She's got plenty of experience.

Jay Franze (27:20):
She does have experience.

Yeah, yeah.
So it was interesting to seeher in that role and just really
encouraging them.
And actually, I don't know ifyou got to see the episode, but
Billy Joe gets sick, and soshe's really frustrated that you
know her voice is notcooperating.
So it's nice to see Gretchencoach her through that.

Jay Franze (27:37):
Yeah.
All right, coming up next isBilly Joe Jones, Billy Joe
Jones, previous guest on theshow, three-time guest on the
show, I think, at this point,three or four.
Let's say three.
Yeah, I think she's amazing,and that is the girl we're
pulling for.

So that means all the crew members are too, just
so you guys know.
Wink wink.
Yeah.

Jay Franze (27:58):
Start voting.

It's also your pick.
All right, now CarrieUnderwood, you know, she has the
song Before He Cheats, and onthe voice, two different
contestants actually delivered astandout rendition of Before He
Cheats, earning standingovations from Coach Snoop Dogg
and a serious buzz.

Jay Franze (28:17):
Who are the two artists?

Jay?
I was gonna look it up, andthen I was like, well, that's
not really what the story is,it's about the shows keeping the
music relevant.

Jay Franze (28:29):
Previous guest of the show, McKenzie Phipps.
Oh McKenzie Phipps is thefamily on that show.

Well, it's funny because after we said that story
initially, I went and watched acouple of episodes, but I
didn't get to see that one yet.
So I'll have to go ahead andhaven't seen any.
Well, I just went into like ondemand, but anyway.

Jay Franze (28:48):
Sorry, we don't all have on demand.

Yes, you do.
All right.
Well, next we talked aboutKeith Urban being on his high in
alive tour.
Well, we were talking about howhe was kind of sticking it to
Nicole or not anymore.
No, not anymore.
Okay, no, okay.

(29:12):
Anyways, so uh Urban pausedmid-song this time, knelt down,
daring somebody like you, givingfans a rare, raw moment.
Moments like that on the show,even major shows can yield to
vulnerable, unforgettable liveperformance breaks.
I think that's what we kind ofsaw too with the Laney Wilson
story last week, where she waslike singing and realized like

(29:35):
this person has been here everyshow.
You know, she's not missedanything, and acknowledged her
fan.

Jay Franze (29:41):
He recorded over at Blackbird.
I know we talk about thestudios in Asheville, so I like
to try to tie them together, buthe did a lot of recording over
at Blackbird, specifically hisbanjo playing and the
electronics that he adds intothe songs, like the loops and
stuff.
So they do a lot of that workover at Blackbird Studios,
Blackbird Studios.
Studios over in Berry Hill, theBerry Hill section of

(30:02):
Nashville, which is becoming thenew music row.
But that studio is MartinaMcBride's husband's studio.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (30:10):
John McBride.

I can't ever hear it without Blackbird singing in
the dead of night.
Every time.
That's what he means.
Every time.
I was editing something andsomebody has a new product and
it's called Blackbird, and I wasBlackbird singing in the dead
of night.
Always makes me think of that.
Okay.
Well, Mr.
Brian Fuller, if you guys arelooking for somebody who's up

(30:32):
and coming, get your eyes onthis kid.
Fuller, a rising performer,featured by Country Now, is
being spotlighted as one of thegenre's biggest up and comers
with a buzz building.
This could be the year the newCountry Star breaks through in a
big way.

Jay Franze (30:49):
Could be the year he's off the farm.
He's off the farm, y'all.
He's a farm boy.
Farm boy.
I I give all the credit in theworld to farm boys because, man,
those those guys work.

Yeah, I can only imagine like being on the farm
with them and they're bustingout some tunes.
I feel like all those farm boysthey show up and they're like,
uh, yes, sir.
Uh yes, that's true.

Jay Franze (31:19):
APL goes to Tiffany at gymsy.com.

But then they open their mouth to sing, and
it's like the best sound.
You're like, whoa, I was notexpecting that.
Yeah.
You know, if someone saysthey've never performed in front
of anybody, always expectingsomething unpolished, I guess.
Okay.
Well, this is one I'm veryexcited to talk about.
Are you guys ready?

Jay Franze (31:42):
Ready.

Okay.

Jay Franze (31:44):
The 2020.
Jake Jergenmeyer.

No.

Jay Franze (31:49):
Is it Jake?

No, it's Jet.

Jay Franze (31:51):
Jet Jergensmeyer.
Jet Jergensmeyer.

Juergensmeier, yeah.

Jay Franze (31:55):
Jergensmeier.

No.
It's too soon for that segment.

Jay Franze (31:59):
Number six.

No.
Numero 8.

Jay Franze (32:03):
Numerous.

Okay.
Well, the Country Music Hall ofFame.
We were just talking aboutthis.
They actually welcomed threenew members at a star-studded
ceremony.
That's a lot of S's.
June Carter, who is our Cash.
Oh, sorry.
Yes.
Who is our veteran artist?
Kenny Chesney.
Holy smokes, there he is.

(32:28):
Must be our current era.
And our non-performer isPowerhouse producer Tony Brown,
who you were just chatting up.

Jay Franze (32:39):
I think he's amazingly Tony Brown.
I think Tony Brown is anamazingly talented producer.
It's just not the style ofmusic I typically would go for.
He's a super talented musician,piano player, producer.
Him and Bob Bullock has done alot of the projects with him.

(33:00):
Bob Bullock did 11 of theGeorge Strait records.
So I mean, those two haveworked together quite a bit.
And you know, I I love Bob.
I love George Strait, but a lotof the stuff that that he does
is more of the traditional soundstuff.
Where you get somebody like DanHuff, who does more of the
modern, like the CarrieUnderwood stuff.

Yeah.
I'd probably like more modern.
I'm leaning towards Huff.
Huff.

Jay Franze (33:28):
Dan Huff, also an amazing guitar player, played in
the band Giant, which was arock band in the 80s.
I mean, he is just absolutelyabsolutely amazing, one of the
best ever.

Okay, well, the next news story, a recent list,
shows a growing number ofcountry tracks where artists
critiquing police, ICE, andother institutions, and one
viral song in particular wasmaking waves up.
It reflects how country musicis stretching into more socially
conscious territory beyond thetraditional themes.

Jay Franze (34:00):
Musicians have done that a lot in the past, but now
that it's a political thingright now, to me, it's probably
poor taste.

Mm-hmm.
I agree.
And wrapping up all of ournews.
It's about Cole Swindell, soit's good.
Uh, he has an upcoming tour andit is promising both
high-energy party anthems andconfessional ballads.
He says fans should expectequal parts of celebration and
vulnerability.
It is interesting framing atour called Happy Hour Sad that

(34:30):
recognizes tears and tequila cansometimes go together.

Jay Franze (34:35):
All right, question of the day.
This is your moment.
Put your responses in the chat.
What song?
When we say track, we meansong.
Keep up with the lingo, folks.

Yeah.

Jay Franze (34:53):
Track, song, I don't know.
Yeah.
That's what I heard the kidssay.
All right.
So let's go ahead and no, no,Travis right out of the gate.
Miss Tiffany, as always, I'llgive you the opportunity to go
first.

Well, let's have me go first so I don't get
inspired by others.

Jay Franze (35:10):
Let's do that, please.

So as soon as I saw it, I was like, oh, hands
down.
Shook me all night long, ACDC.
It was funny because we hadjust talked about last time.

Jay Franze (35:20):
Robbie Johnson.

Maybe.
I mean, I'll take any version.
I'll take any version, but Ithink ACDC's version has the
best.
Oh, hell yeah.
Turn that right up.

Jay Franze (35:37):
All right.
Well, Travis.
I'm gonna read it anyway,Travis.
He says Cotton Eye Joe.
Oh didn't somebody last weeksay that that was a song that
they hated to love.
And this was another one,Brent.
Brent says Toby Keith read solocup.

(35:59):
Well, I think we found the fratboys.
I think that's what it is.
Colts Wendell fans.
Josh says Big and Rich, Beer forMy Horses.
No, he's that's not the samesong, Josh.
They've got Ride a Horse, Ridea Horse, Save a Cowboy.
Yes.
He says, Beer for my horses,save a horse.
Man, you're all over the place,Josh.

(36:20):
I think you're hanging out atthe fret a little too much.
Too much about solo cup.
Maybe he's listening two songs.
Maybe he's just drunk.
I don't know, Josh.
Let us know, buddy.
Heather says Blake Shelton.
Oh Billy Bone.
I hate that song.
Robbie says kid rock.

Any specific song?
Just any kid rock?

Jay Franze (36:44):
I'm assuming he means all summer long because he
says, you know, the sweet homeAlabama rip-off.
Oh, yeah.
Okay, fine.
Courtney says Luke Bryan,Country Girl.
Yeah, I like that.
You know, I like Luke Bryan.
Yeah.
He's got songs that just theyfeel like they should be turned
up.
Yeah.
James, James says Shania Twain,man, I feel like a woman.

Okay.

Jay Franze (37:08):
He says it's not the song I promise.
It's the opening riff thatmakes me crank it up.
James, come on, buddy.
It's okay.

Yeah, I think there is a pretty good opening
riff to that song, actually.
There we go.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
No, that one's got a great one.

Jay Franze (37:25):
Yeah, but it's also a great song, and she's Shania
Twain.
Yeah.
Not to mention hot.
And hot.
Lisa, thank you again, Lisa, forbeing here.
Brooks and Dunn, Boot Scootin'Boogie.
David says Johnny Cash, FolsomPrison Blues.
Emily says Dolly Parton 9 to 5.
Chris, Alan Jackson,Chattahoochee.

(37:49):
Hannah with an H says RebaMcIntyre.
Fancy.
And you know what, Hannah?
That is my favorite RebaMcIntyre song.

I love that Reba McIntyre song.

Jay Franze (38:02):
Joe.
Joe, my friend, thank you forjoining.
I appreciate it.
But he's got four responses.

Okay.
He's pulling a Tiffany.
It's fine.

Jay Franze (38:12):
As long as Tiffany's not pulling Joe.
Speaking of which, he startsoff with Metallica.
Enter Sandman.
Then he's got Nazareth, hair ofthe dog.
And then Mountain, MississippiQueen, and ACDC Thunderstruck.

(38:35):
Ah.
Kathy.
The Kathy.
She says, Laney Wilson, four byfour by you.
Ooh.
And true to the bloodline, she'sgot two responses.
She says, Chris Young, I'mcoming over.

Oh, yeah.
See, I saw her response when Iwas talking about the Chris
Young stuff coming up, and I waslike, man, this guy's popping
up everywhere.
Even on mom's radar.

Jay Franze (39:04):
Chris Young, I'm telling you.
My best friend, Keith.
Keith sensing.
Keith Sensing, 243 Main Street.
Yes, he is a great guy, friendof mine.
Friends with Chris Young.
Frank.
I like it.
Frank just says all of it.

Alex (39:25):
All of it.

Jay Franze (39:26):
All of it.
I turned it up over all of it.

Alex (39:29):
I like it.

Oh dear God.

Jay Franze (39:32):
Brynn, as much as I appreciate you being here, my
friend.
There's like 56 choices here.
No, there's a few though.
She says Billy Idol.
And she's got multiple songs.
Money Money, Dancing withMyself, and Rebel Yell.
She's got Meat Loaf, Bad Out ofHell.
That's a great song.

(39:53):
Ozzy Osbourne, Crazy Train.
Bryn, I like your variety here.
Annie Lennox, Sweet Dreams.

Oh yeah.

Jay Franze (40:00):
The Who, You Better, You Bet.
Neil Diamond, Sweet Caroline,theme song of the Boston Red
Sox.
Thank you.
And just about any Def Leopardsong.

Oh, amen.
A couple of those came to mymind.

Jay Franze (40:16):
Bruce Tarletsky.
Let me say his full namebecause he's a previous guest of
the show and he is the foundingmember of High Mountain
Breezes.

Thank you.

Jay Franze (40:27):
High Mountain Breezes.
He says, old time rock androll.
He doesn't have the artist, butit is Bob Seeger.
Michael.
Michael, the same one who saidlast week that it is not good to
hate any song.
If you like a song, like it.

Yep.

Jay Franze (40:43):
So he says, there are so, so many.
But the first ones that come tomind are Edge of the Blade by
Journey.
Wash It All Away by Five FingerDeath Punch.
Missing You by H S A S.
Oh, yes.
No, H S A S.
That's the guitar player fromJourney.

Oh.

Jay Franze (41:07):
Falling in Between, Todo.
And I'd be remiss if I didn'tbring up Kiss.
Broken Heart, Ace Freely.
Ace Freely, if you didn't know,just passed away last week.

Yes.

Jay Franze (41:21):
Anthony.
Anthony's here on a regularbasis.
He says, Cadillac Blood byVolbeat.
I saw Volbeat with Hailstorm.
I've never heard of that.
Olivia, and I love you for it.
Carry underwood before eacheats.
Oh.
Kathy.
Kathy's here.
Oh.
Bring that guest on, Jay,please.
I don't know which guest.

(41:42):
Kathy, you're gonna have totell me.

That dude knows Chris Young.

Jay Franze (41:47):
Yeah.
Sounds like you're asking forKeith.
Please clarify if you want him.
We'll get him on the show.
All right, Kim.
Kim says, jump around by Houseof Pain.

Jump around.

Jay Franze (42:03):
Jump around.
Kelly says Miranda Lambert,gumpowder, and lead.
That is a great song.
I like that.
Look at that.
I like this.
I like it.
And then of course, I don'tknow how it happens, but Zach
right behind Kelly says BlakeShelton.
Old red.
All red.

(42:24):
Phil just says Seven Dust.
Cindy.
Cindy, my friend, thank you forjoining.
She says, I agree with Kim.
Jump around.
House of Pain.
And then she says, I also likeAfrica's Toto.
Any Fleetwood Mac song, Queen,Credence, Jethro Tull, Cracker,
Nirvana, Sound Guard, andArosmith, Guns and Roses, Temple

(42:46):
of the Dog.

Oh my god, I want to hang out with her.

Jay Franze (42:48):
Really anything in the 70s through 90s.
Holy cow.
70s.
That's a wide span, my friend.

I I like her.
Who is it?

Jay Franze (42:57):
Cindy.

Cindy.
We're BFF.
She's here.
Cindy.
Yeah, and Emily.
Yep.
Okay.

Jay Franze (43:03):
She's here all the time.

Cindy, I like your style.

Jay Franze (43:07):
Christine says the story, Brandy Carlisle.
She says, Mama said, huck youout.
L L Hol Gou Jay.
That's a funny song.
Oh, James.
James, James, James, James.
We always bring up Jamesbecause he's typically the one
that feeds us the questions ofthe day.
Not this one, but he does feedus the questions of the day.

(43:28):
He says, It's a long way to thetop, if you want to rock and
roll.
By ACDC.
Oh, JM Ford66.
JM Ford66 says the theme fromRocky.

General Motor?

Jay Franze (43:45):
JM, not GM.

J so close.
So close.

Jay Franze (43:53):
Anyways, JM Ford66 says the theme from Rocky.
I agree.
Not only the original, whichyou're referring to here, but
also Eye of the Tiger.

I agree a thousand percent.

Jay Franze (44:07):
Maya Project Music, previous guest of the show, here
every week, love you for it.
Says, like a stone, audioslave, Chris Cornell deserves
all the volume, all the way up.

Whoa.

Jay Franze (44:21):
Chris Cornell is another amazing singer, was an
amazing singer, but it just thevoice is too low for me.
Too low.
Dave says, You know it, jump byVan Halen.
Brandon says, Toby Keith shouldhave been a cowboy.

That was a good song.

Jay Franze (44:47):
Good.
No, I'm skipping because I wantto end on a good one.
This is wrong.
I'm skipping everybody.
Oh, that's a good one.
Not good enough though.

Jay the cherry picker.

Jay Franze (44:58):
Um cherry picking.
Um cherry picking.
Oh, there's the one I'm gonnapick unless I can see one
better.
I don't.
Oh damn.
Oh jinx yourself.
I'm gonna do two.
Not better.
Well, I don't think it'sbetter, but it's a previous
guest of the show, so I'm gonnago with two.
Grant says Clint Black Like theRain.

(45:20):
One of my favorite songs.
To me, still to this day, thatsong, if it came out today, I
would still think it's a greatsong.

Yeah, I agree with that.

Jay Franze (45:28):
And then Hunter says nitty gritty dirt band fishing
in the dark.

That was one of my other options because you
hear the first couple.
You're like, well, turn it up.
Fishing in the dark.
All right, all right.
Let's see what's happening.
Okay.
Debuting in spot number 10 isMr.
Parker McCollum with what kindof man in spot number nine.

(45:53):
Laney Wilson.

Jay Franze (45:57):
Somewhere over Cincinnati.

Ah, you stole my thunder.
I was gonna say it.
Oh, really?
Somewhere over Laredo.

Jay Franze (46:04):
Go ahead, say it.

Somewhere over Laredo.
No, start over.
Okay, and spot number nine isLaney Wilson with somewhere over
Cincinnati.

Jay Franze (46:17):
Oh no, it's supposed to be Laredo.

All right, spot eight.
Numero Ocho.
Jay's favorite number.
Mr.
Jackson Dean is there right nowwith Heavens to Betsy.

Jay Franze (46:31):
Plural.

Heavens to Betsy.
Oh my gosh.
Oh, I can't wait for this one.
Okay.
Spot number seven.

Jay Franze (46:39):
Good old Russ.

Good old Russ.
Happened to me.
I was charging some guy'scredit card and his name was
Russell.
And I was like, oh my gosh, Ihave to tell you the funniest
thing.

Jay Franze (46:51):
I don't know where I was charging this guy's credit
card.
We're on the corner of fifthand main.
We're in the alley.
I just finished.

I was no lot lizard.
No, I was gonna say that.
I was not being a lot lizard,guys.
I was running the coffeepeddler.
Okay.
In spot number six is wait, no,no.

Jay Franze (47:15):
Finish your story.
What did he say?

I did.

Jay Franze (47:17):
You said you were gonna tell him a story.
You never told us what thestory was.

I did, I did, but then you started getting mad at
me and said it was out ofnowhere.
But what I said was we do thiscountry music countdown, and you
know the artist RussellDickerson, he said yes, and I
said, We always say, Good oldRuss.
And so I gave him his coffeeand then I said, Thank you for
your purchase, good old Russ.

Jay Franze (47:40):
Yeah, no, we shouldn't have finished the
story.
You're right.
Sorry.

It was a good story.
It was a good story.
Everybody liked it.
But I'll tell you what is evenbetter story is who's in spot
number six.
It is Chase Matthews with why'she call you Darling?
Why's he call you Daily?
Anyways, Darwin.
I'm becoming a big fan of thissong.

Jay Franze (47:59):
It's a great song.

Great song.
It does bother me though, theyou know, like I yeah.
There's a couple times in umsome Morgan Wallen songs that it
comes out to play, and I'mlike, eh.

Jay Franze (48:14):
He's uh he's a fun guy.
I mean, he's young, fun, justconstantly doing goofy things.
Yeah, he's a good one to watchon social media and stuff.

Okay, well, I'm gonna pull him up and then I'll
see him and Jody Masseno.
Okay, spot number five, we'rehalfway through with Luke Combs
back in the saddle.
I don't feel like he's beenlike climbing.
I feel like he was off and thenhe showed back up in spot
number five.
Oh, but it says six to five, soI guess he's been here.

(48:44):
I don't know.
Maybe we've been blown past it.
We must be blown past itbecause it's being lost on me a
little bit.
But I do like that song.
Spot number four, holdingsteady, Jordan Davis, Bar None.
There's a couple songs thatcame up recently, and I was
like, I love this song.
I was like, ah, Jordan Davis.
So the Bar None song put him onmy radar per se, but come to

(49:08):
find out that he's got greatprevious songs, yeah.
Spot number three, MorganWallen.
I got better.
Love this song, big fan, bigfan.
It's the one I tried to love tohate, but I actually just love
to love it now.

Jay Franze (49:21):
Michael says you should not hate any song.
No, or you should not love tohate loving any song.

Right.
He's right.
He's right.

Jay Franze (49:32):
He is right, he's a smart man.

Smart man, Michael.

Jay Franze (49:35):
Firefighter and EMT.

Oh, he is smart then and brave, brave man for
sure.

Jay Franze (49:42):
Comes from a long line of firefighters.
I did my research, Michael.
I know who you are.
Wow.
I'm a stalker.

I might be scared, Michael.
Uh hate Mal can go to Jay.

Jay Franze (49:55):
You can see all of that in his profile picture,
just so you know.

Ah, gotcha.
Okay, spot number two is ScottyMcCreary just holding on tight
with bottle rockets.
I thought he was.

Jay Franze (50:06):
Holding on tight, he dropped.
Son of a he's still holding ontight.
He's not holding on tight, hefell.
Spot number two, Scotty McCrearywith bottle rockets.
Was spot number one for what,like a week?
Didn't he just get there?
And we said last week he'sgonna drop.
Yeah, but we thought he wasgonna drop a lot.

(50:29):
Yes, that's true.
We did say he'll probably dropnumber five or something.

Uh-huh.
And he didn't, he's in two, sobecause it's that good of a
sign.

Jay Franze (50:39):
Like go from one to two and then back to one.

I don't think that we've ever seen anybody do
that.

Jay Franze (50:46):
Maybe.
I don't know.

Maybe it happens.

Jay Franze (50:50):
It happens.

Okay.
Okay.
And spot number one is jellyroll with heart of stone.
Good job.

Jay Franze (51:05):
This whole drum roll on number two and applause
after number one.
Yeah.
It's very cheesy.
Very cheesy.

It's very fun.

Jay Franze (51:14):
Somebody else has gotta support that because it
just doesn't seem right to me.
Kathy?
Drum roll?
Applause.
Do we keep it or do we lose it?

Keep it.
Keep it.
Keep it infused with fun, Jay.
Shenanigans.
Fine.

Jay Franze (51:33):
I don't know why you always want to have fun.

Damn it.
Anyway.

Jay Franze (51:38):
Indie charts.

Okay, spot number 10 is Wish You Wouldn't Go by
Ken Domesh.
Domesh Domesh.
Domash.

Jay Franze (51:47):
Friend of Robbie Johnson.

Oh.

Jay Franze (51:51):
Dumbass.
Did you just oh, I can't switchback and forth to these sound
effects this quickly, butTiffany.

You're fired.

Jay Franze (52:02):
You think Mr.
Domash is gonna come on theshow if you're calling him
dumbass?
She doesn't mean that.
Hate mail goes to Tiffany atjfranzy.com.

I didn't call him anything.

Jay Franze (52:16):
I appreciate you, sir.

Spot number nine is You Were There by Thompson
Square.
What are you looking for, Jay?

Jay Franze (52:30):
Nothing.
Nothing at all.

Spot number eight is Leaving Louisiana in the
broad daylight by a Flat RiverBand.

Jay Franze (52:40):
My wife left Louisiana in the broad daylight
just yesterday.

That could have been her anthem yesterday.

Jay Franze (52:45):
She was in Louisiana for a conference.

Sounds nice.
I've never been to Louisiana.
Number seven, don't let thegray hair fool you by Dew West.
Number six, I can't wait tocheck this one out.
Miss You More by Hunter Clark.
I got a good vibe about it.
Just based on nothing.
Miss You More.
Based on just the title alone.

Jay Franze (53:06):
I wrote a song called I Miss You Already.

Oh.
See, I miss you already.
Like I feel like I say that.
I guess people do.
I miss you more.
Yeah, I guess.

Jay Franze (53:16):
But my daughter says I love you more.

That's I say to my daughter, my sons.

Jay Franze (53:21):
I tell my daughter, I said, Oh, I love you.
And she goes, I love you more.
I'm like, son, you can't saythat.

And then I just say, I love you more.
You'll never understand thelove of a parent.
That's why when my mom says Ilove you more, I let her win
because I know she loves me morebecause I love my daughter more
than she could love me.
So I get it.

Jay Franze (53:37):
Kathy, is that true?
All right, what's next?

Spot number five, Pontiac.
So tell me, Mama, by AaronWatson.
Number four.

Jay Franze (53:47):
Jet Jergensmeyer.

Singing the song Red.
Nice.

Jay Franze (53:53):
Jergensmeyer.

Pitiful.
And spot number three, Turn theNight On by Chris Kizia.
Nice.
I like that song a lot.
It's about me, actually.
He wrote it about me.
Most songs are about you.
Not most of them, but that onedefinitely is.
Spot number two, I don't knowhow to say goodbye.
Boom, boom, bang, bang byDwight Yokum and Post Mullen.

Jay Franze (54:17):
Try again.

And spot number two.

Jay Franze (54:20):
Yep, you get oh.
I have to try again too,apparently.

I don't know how to say goodbye.
Bang bang.
Boom boom.

Jay Franze (54:30):
There you go.

What did I do wrong?

Jay Franze (54:32):
You were boom boom bang bang.
Bang, bang, boom, boom.
Everybody knows that.
I thought it was bada bing, badabad.
Right white.
I mean, if you were in the hallof fame, you we will probably
know that.
But you're not in the hall offame, so therefore we're boom,
boom, bang, bang.

We say how the song goes, okay?
Okay, and spot number one.
Kathy here by Eric LeeBettingfield.

Jay Franze (55:02):
Half the applause.
You're only on the indiecharts.
Oh my gosh.
Absolutely pitiful, my friend.
Absolutely pitiful.
All right.
Today we have an artistspotlight.
If you would like to befeatured in our artist

(55:22):
spotlight, or if you would likeus to feature an artist in our
artist spotlight, please let usknow.
You could do that through smokesignals, or you can head over
to the website and use apull-down menu, or you could go
directly to whatever, send us amessage, go down in the link
below.
That link below, you can sendus a text, whatever you choose
to do, communicate with us, buttell us that you would like us

(55:45):
to spotlight you as an artist oran artist that you would like.
Alright.
Last week we were talking toMr.
Robbie Johnson.
And we got into a discussionabout AI as it relates to music.
So I decided to do a little bitof an experiment.
Miss Tiffany wrote some lyrics.

(56:08):
She sent them to me and askedme if I would produce a song for
her.
I said yes.
We were all set to go into therecording studio and record such
said song.
But I said after our discussionlast week, hmm, why don't we
try and do it AI before we gointo the studio?
Sure, we will still go in thestudio, we will still record the

(56:28):
song.
However, let's see what AI cando.
First, what I did was go aheadand just tell AI write a song,
just to see the quality it coulddo on its own.
Impressive, yes, but qualitysong, not so much.
Which is what Robbie was sayingon the show last week, that you

(56:49):
cannot replace the humanportion of the song.
You can replace the technicalparts, but you can't replace the
human piece of the songwriting.
Now, I've written songs since1980 something.
And the approach that I wouldtake back in the day of writing,
I would always start withlyrics first.

(57:09):
And then I would take thoselyrics and I would meet with a
session lead.
For those who don't know, asession lead is the musician who
takes the lead of yourrecording session.
They typically chart out yoursong and they instruct the
musicians how the performance isgoing to go.
They basically interpret whatyou tell them.

(57:31):
And then you go into the studiowith the producer and an
engineer and you record thesong, and the producer typically
calls the shots.
So when I was doing my songs, Iwas also producing the project.
So I would go in, I would workwith a session lead to go ahead
and chart out the music.
We would hand it out to themusicians, I would tell them
what I was looking for, what myvision was.

(57:53):
So I thought to myself, let metry and do that with AI.
I said, here is a set oflyrics.
This is what I would like youto sing.
I would like it to be likethis.
And I described it.
I said, I want it to be amodern country song.
I want it to be veryanthem-like.

(58:14):
I want it to be a femalesinger.
I want it to be strong andpowerful.
And then I went into the actualinstrumentation.
This is what I want for thedrums.
This is how I want the drums tofeel.
I want the chorus coming out ofthe bridge to be broken down.
I want the bridge to bepowerful.
I want it to have an uplifthere.
I want the bridge to come down.
I want to hear maybe a littlebit of a loop playing in the

(58:35):
background as we make thattransition.
Miss Tiffany said, I want, youknow, one of her instructions to
me was that she liked the way aperson would hold the note, the
last note of the song.
So I went ahead and explainedthat and how I wanted it to be
held out.
And then I didn't think thatwas enough, so I went back and
said I would like it also tofollow up with this tag vocal.

(58:57):
And then I said I wanted toplay out with a guitar solo that
was powerful guitar solo.
So I gave it all theinstructions, everything I could
think of.
I spent a week, one solid week,tweaking and tweaking and
tweaking to see if we can get AIto perform something that would

(59:22):
be, let's say, competitive towhat we would get if we went
into a recording studio.
And I have to say, I think itnailed it.

I do too.
I was really ecstatic.

Jay Franze (59:39):
But I will tell you, I mean, it's got a a long way
to go.
I mean, if you soloinstruments, because I did, I
paid for the pro version of allthis stuff so I could take every
individual track and I could goahead and tweak the individual
tracks and manipulate things.
And when you solo theinstruments, you can hear
artifacts.

(59:59):
And you can hear that it's notquite there yet.
So we're not a hundred percentthere yet.
But I kid you not, if I playthat song for somebody, they
don't know it's AI.
I played it for my family, theyhave no idea.
No idea.
So what do you think of thesong?
Oh, it sounds great.
You don't know.
So the fact that it's capableof doing that is very

(01:00:21):
impressive.
Anything I could tell amusician to do, I told this
thing to do.
Anything I could think of, anyinstruction that I would have
given the musicians in thestudio, I gave to what I call
Alex.
Alex is a female AI agent thatI talked to.

Tiffany Mason (01:00:39):
Jay's new best friend.
Where's Alex now?

Jay Franze (01:00:42):
Alex is over here somewhere.

Can she host the the Jay Franzi show with you?

She could.
I don't know.
She she could very well.
Should we test her?

No.

Let's test her.
You won't you questioned her.
I don't think she likes that.
Let's see.
Hey, Alex, how are you?

Alex (01:01:02):
Hey there.
I'm doing great.
Thanks for asking.
Hope you're doing well too.
What can I help you out withtoday?

Well, thank you.
I'm sitting here hosting theshow currently.
We're live.
I'm talking with Miss Tiffany,and she's wondering if you could
host the show, maybe evenpossibly better than she could.

Alex (01:01:17):
Um putting me on the spot, huh?
Well, I'll say this.
Tiffany's got the co-hostingcharm done pretty well.
So I'm not here to emotion inanyone, but I'm always happy to
help out and add a little AIflair if you two ever need it.
Just let me know.

Well, that's fantastic.
Thank you.
We'll get back to you though.

Alex (01:01:33):
Absolutely.
Anytime you both have a greatshow, and just give me a shout
if you need a virtual gueststar.

Sounds good.

She's scared.

She's a little intimidated.
I don't blame her.

You can't top this.

No, we should have asked her to laugh.
See if we can get a good laughout of her.
Ha ha ha, Jay.
You are so funny.

Right.

I don't know.
So as far as the song goes, doI think it came out good?
Yes.
Would I release it as a record?
Probably not yet, no.
But I could see it.
It's gonna get there.
Ton of potential.
A ton of potential.
And I think it's good when youtweak it.
Right out of the gate.
Yeah, probably not quite there.

(01:02:19):
Like I said, I spent a weektweaking it.
Did I have to?
No, it sounded pretty good outof the gate.
But it wasn't quite there.
Like some of the melody lines,it didn't quite hit.
So I had to tweak those.
And matter of fact, I took MissTiffany sang the vocals into
her phone.
And I took those.

They were only for me, you guys.
So I trusted Jay.

Well, I took them and I put them into that.

They were pathetic.

I shared them with Alex, and Alex went ahead and
tweaked it.
So that's all right.
We got the point across.
We knew what the melody wassupposed to be, and guess what?
Now we have a melody.
So it worked out.
So we gave it the lyrics, wegave it the melody, and we told
it how to how to perform themusic right down to every

(01:03:08):
individual instrument and how wewanted those instruments to
perform.
The only thing I didn't do isgive it actual chord changes.
I let it pick the chord changesbased off of the melody,
because that's not my strongpoint to begin with.
I'm not that person.
I don't typically write chordchanges.
If I did, it would be very,very basic.
So I allowed it to pull thechord changes it thought was

(01:03:30):
necessary based on the melodythat we provided.
But if you had that kind ofability, if you're talented in
that way, you could have alsogiven it the chord changes.
So it does have that ability.
Now some key differences maybebetween doing AI and doing it in
person.
Although AI was instantaneous.

(01:03:54):
So if I went into a studiowith, say, Jeff King, session
lead guitar player, or ChrisLosinger, another session lead
guitar player, I could have toldthem what I wanted and they
would have said yes, or if theyhad a quick question to clarify
something, they would haveasked.
You know, they would still haveto go into the other room, sit

(01:04:16):
down in front of the microphone,pick up a guitar and perform
it.
But they would probably nail itpretty quickly.
At the very least, I could justhop on the talk back mic and
say, Hey, can we tweak thishere, tweak this here?
And we'd we'd have thatrecording pretty quickly.
AI did it instantly.
However, it wasn't what I wouldhave wanted the first time

(01:04:41):
around.
I had to tweak it quite a bitto get the changes to be where I
wanted them to be.
But I was able to get there.
I was able to get to the sameto the same spot.
It just took a little longer,even though it was AI, and even
though AI can create itinstantly.
Does it replace a human?
No.
Plus, the difference when I'mworking with, like, say, Jeff

(01:05:04):
King, I can tell Jeff, hey, thisis what I want you to do.
And he might be able to providefeedback and say, you know
what, that's a great idea, butif we do that, it's going to
conflict with this.
Or because of the way themelody goes, we shouldn't do it
here, we can do it in this spotinstead.
He makes judgment calls that I,as a producer and not the

(01:05:28):
musician, may not have known.
Where in this particular case,where I'm telling AI, I don't
know.

Yeah.

So I have to assume, you know, I can hear it when it
happens.
Oh, that wasn't good.
But possibilities that I mightnot know how to make the change.

Yeah.

Where Jeff would know how to make the change.

Yeah, pretty valuable.

Like a point, I was in a session with Jeff a while
back, and we were recording asong, and there was a a chord in
the song that would have beenbetter as a minor chord.
And I would not have made thatchange.
I would have just said, Yeah,no, it's this way the song is,
it sounds great.
But when Jeff made the change,it's like, oh, yeah, no, I can

(01:06:13):
understand why we made thatchange.
So having that humaninteraction is still good.
Now, if you're not dealing withsession players, okay, then
yeah, AI would probably bebetter.
If you're dealing with you knowfive of your buddies in a
garage and you're trying to getthem to perform something that's
out of their reach, okay, thenAI is probably gonna be your

(01:06:35):
better option.
Yeah.
However, if you've got peoplelike Jeff King at your disposal,
and don't get me wrong, peoplelike Jeff King are expensive.
You gotta get them through theunion and you gotta pay the
union dues, and you gotta rent a$1,500 to $3,500 studio when
you're doing all this stuff,it's expensive.
AI, once you pay the fees,yeah, it's not expensive at all.

(01:06:59):
Yeah.
But where I think this would behandy is some of the artists
that we talk to on the show thatare independent artists that
might not have the funding to goin and record every single song
idea they come up with.
But they can go in and singinto AI, and AI will take their

(01:07:23):
melodies and create the song andgive them a song back.
So they can see, they can seetheir idea come to fruition, and
then they can do that withmaybe 20 songs, yeah, and decide
which one of those 20 am Igoing to take into the studio
now.

Yeah.

So it gives them an opportunity to test some of
their ideas, which I think forthat purpose, this is fantastic.

Yeah.

As a lyric writer, I think that's the the best thing
ever.
You know, I just plug in lyricsand poof, here's your song
within seconds.
It took me longer to type mylyrics than it did to get the
song back.

That's crazy.

So as far as that goes, that's fantastic.
Yeah.
But if you have a very specificmelody in mind, you have to be
able to sing it.
Because if you can't sing it orplay it, then AI doesn't know
to use your melody.
And then when you have abeautiful voice such as myself,

(01:08:27):
I took that melody, put it inthere, and it was able to come
up with the melody.
I'm proud of it.

I'm proud of it.

Anyways, so there you go.
Not bad at all.
If you would like to give somefeedback, some interaction, some
thoughts, questions, comments,or concerns, jfranzi.com slash
mailbag, or pull down menu, orsmoke signal, or whichever way
you would like to get yourcomment to us, social media, the
text below, whatever you wantto use.

(01:08:56):
Yeah.
Please go ahead and do that.
Send us a message.
It could just be a quickone-liner or it could be a book.
If it's a book, I'm not goingto read it.
I'll read it.
It's fine.
I won't like reading it though.
I'm just going to tell youthat.
However, let's go ahead anddiscuss some of these comments.
Casey.

(01:09:17):
Casey says, You always shine alight on the unsung heroes.
Award shows should take noteand honor more songwriters and
session players.
Because they are the unsungheroes.
Mm-hmm.
I like that, Casey.
It also shows us that youactually listen to the show.

(01:09:37):
That's fantastic.
Diana says, Fans are tired ofpolished, perfect, and
predictable.
We need a generation of outlawartists.

I think you're getting them.

Landon, this show feels like a session where the
mics were just left on.
Is that good?

I think so.
Like kind of catching your rawopinions.
Nice commentary.
Off the cuff.

Amber, I feel like you're curating a future of
country.
Not just reporting on it.
We're curating the future.

Just call us puppet masters.

Oh Noah says the news is great, but the chemistry
is better.
Stacy.
How do you spell Stacy?

S-T-A-C-Y?

She spells it with an E.

E.
Y?

E Y.

I almost threw out EY, but I tried to go most
traditional.
Tradition.

And this show doesn't just talk about country
music, it captures the cultureall around it.

I mean, right there, spot on.

Ollie says it's Tiffany that makes the show fun.

Ah.
Jay, you're an integral part aswell.

Thank you, Ollie.
Ollie, Collie.
Um, Riley, small venue tours domore to build a real fan base
than stadium tours ever could.

Yep.

We were talking about that last week.
I'm assuming that's what she'sfollowing up on.
Thank you, Ryles.
Maddie, M-A-N-D-D-I-E.
Not to be confused with Matt T.
Maddie says country should leaninto collaborations with
Americana and folk artists.

(01:11:41):
These blends would be moreauthentic and better than the
pop mashups.

Yeah.
Yeah, you know, um, if popcountry is gonna get a spot, we
should do more like bluegrass orAmericana or whatever.
You know, like there should bemore of a spotlight on those as
well.

I agree.
I think that those are more theessence of country.

Yeah.

I don't necessarily think pop is the I know pop and
blues, everything's built off ofblues and all that, but I think
that uh bluegrass and all thatstuff is more of what the
essence is.
Traditional instruments.

Yeah, playing on a farm at a campfire.
Got the old washboard out.
Alright, we take that with atwig.
Too far.

Too far we did too far.
Eight mil goes to both of us.
Alright, um, Faith.
I think it's Faith Hill.

Probably.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Yeah.

Country is at its best when it tells everyday
stories.
Lately, some of the songs aremoving to be more like a
commercial than real life.

Hmm.
I gotta dig deep on the the oldlyrics bank and mull that one
over.

Did you say the spank bank?

No, the lyrics bank.

Oh, must have been the accent.

It's probably the accent, yeah.

Colleen says F radio playlists are where it's at.

And that's a good spot.
I mean, a good point that uhthe country countdown on the Jay
Franzi show on Spotify.
You can listen to the countrymusic countdown and the indie
artists and some of our gueststhat have been on the show.

All right.
I'm gonna take one more fromthe previously entered mailbags.
And if I didn't get to yourstoday, I will get to them, I
promise.
I'll read each and every one ofthem, whether they are good or
bad.
I don't know.
Um, and then I'm gonna go toone that came in live.
So Caroline says, Jay, Jay islike an encyclopedia of country

(01:13:46):
music.
Yes, I don't know if I believethat, but I take the compliment.
Thank you, Caroline.
And then Kathy says, on themailbag, we would like to add
that we love the drum roll andthe cheering for the number one
in the number two spots.

Yes.
See, my family's fun.

Are they fun?
Is that what it is?

Yes.

Got a random text message from my wife showing me
that she's still awake, by theway.
All it says is soup.

Well, don't forget the soup.

Don't forget the soup.

Maybe she's dreaming.
It's like I need soup.
I need soup.
I need soup.
There's like sleepwalking,she's sleep texting.

She's not listening to the show.
If she was listening to theshow, she could put it in the
chat.
I love you, babe.
If you are listening to theshow, it's just a joke.
It's all jokes.
All right, my friend, what haveyou got going on this week?

Well, finally, the episode is coming out with
Steven Quinn, the gentleman thatI saw at Boot Scoot and
Bourbon.
And I am so excited for thatepisode to come out because he
gave me the file for his song,and I was able to weave it
through the episode.
But yes, oh my gosh, it's sucha great song, super patriotic.
So you know I'm all about it.

(01:15:10):
Then on Friday, in two shortdays, I'm gonna fly to
Tennessee.
I'm gonna hop in the U-Haul anddrive it all the way back to
Florida because it has all myson's stuff in it because he's
moving to Florida.

Nice.

So I'm super excited.
He's gonna be about 30 minutesago.
Can't wait.
That's what I got going on, andI could not be more excited.

I like it.
Well, we mentioned the roadwith Billy Joe Jones.
Yeah, it started this pastSunday, 9 p.m.
Eastern time on CBS.
If you'd like to check it out,please do.
Please support Billy Joe Jones.
She is family to us.
All right, folks.
We have done it.
We have reached the top of thehour.
We have reached the top of ournumber three, which does mean we

(01:15:55):
have reached the end of theshow.
If you've enjoyed tonight'sshow, please tell a friend, Miss
Tiffany, if you have not.

Tell two.
Tell two.

You can reach out to both of us over at jFrenzy.com.
We will be happy to keep thisconversation going or any other
conversation.
Apparently, we do not get tosleep tonight.
Miss Tiffany, we would like toleave the final words to you.

Tony Scott (01:16:16):
Crew members, thanks for hanging out with us, and
we'll see you on the socials.
Don't forget to reach out andlet us know what you're
thinking.
All right, folks, on that note,have a good night.
Thanks for listening to the JayFranzi Show.
Make sure you visit us atJFranzi.com.
Follow, connect, and stayhello.

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