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What up, what up,
what up, as we're getting back
into the joe show running thingsthrough.
This is our first Sunday scarysince being back.
This scary is going to be aboutthe recent interrogation that
the Sergeant Major of the MarineCorps got roasted.
Sergeant Major of the Army gotroasted.
I didn't really pay attentionto the other two.
I was hinting on some big factslike the Barrick's
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investigation that happenedduring the months of September,
october and November of 2023.
Also, an uptick in sexualassault and substance abuse and
fentanyl becoming a like, not anepidemic, but a significant
increase of risk in the MarineCorps.
I thought that was reallyinteresting, because now they
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are specializing every UA to beone of those drug tests.
Other, what the fuck moment isthat we have a allegedly a Nazi
supporter and a Ku Klux Klanmember running a battalion.
I don't know how that worked,but we'll get into that.
And then, finally, you know,someone said to me hey, we're
not going to do anything stupid,so you don't get dishonorably
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discharged.
And I basically told this man,listen, if you don't kill
anybody, you don't rape nobodyand you don't do no shit to kids
, you're not going to get adishonorable discharge, which
sounds crazy, and I'm going togive you some examples of some
things that have happenedrecently that I just am mind
blown and how they are still inthe military and haven't been
kicked out, as you know.
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So let's get into it.
First up with the United StatesMarine Corps, our major black
getting roasted because hebasically failed the barracks
inspection for having almost 20%of the barracks in failing
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conditions.
He said in his openingstatement, and I quote, that the
military housing and health andwelfare of our soldiers is the
most important thing.
This will sustain all Marinesto always be mission ready and
always adapt to theever-changing life conditions.
Not essentially, every senatoron that board and review board
came at him some sort of leftwhite and what have you.
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Because they said hey, Ithought we had a threshold of
only 5% of buildings beinginadequate.
Well, you're at 20%.
You are four times higher thanwhat the standard is supposed to
be.
Next, with that, it affectedalmost 4000 individual Marines
on a multitude of differentbases and affected families,
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because what ended up happeningwas you had soldiers staying
with families and then a bunchof stuff was happening left and
right and you know multiple MPcases which, whatever, that's
entirely different topic, butessentially like, yeah, we all
know that the housing acrossbarracks is pretty much trash.
Like you have buildings thatare almost 100 years old, like
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you use some TLC, have rottingmold, have pipes failing, have
wall mouths not being replaced,like example, okay, I saw a
barracks get flooded, I'd say amonth and a half ago.
A month ago they fixed theflood, got all the water out,
but all the insulation like thepink stuff in the fiberglass
product in the drywall,essentially was all sitting
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there, soggy and moldy, and itis basically just rotting there
because no one has gone in totake the wall apart and take
care of that.
Not sure if that's a soldier'slack of discipline, not sure if
that is the Army maintenanceprogram.
I don't know whose fault toblame, but like that that's an
issue.
Like you're going to have it,guys end up getting sick because
of that, and it's somethingthat might be noted.
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Like, hey, like who is reallyat fault when things like that
happen at the barracks?
I mean, a pipe burst, that'snot the soldiers fault.
So like hey, we're gonna pointthe finger the other way and
it's like well, how long did ittake for them to report it?
I don't know.
I mean, if you can't walk intoa barracks because of Standing
water, it's just flooding out.
And I'm sure most guys on theage of 22 they live in the
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barracks don't know, like, whatthe pink installation is and why
it's actually really bad.
Just because, like, let's bereal, in today's day and age
there's not many betrayed peoplewho know how to actually work
down a frame in a house andbuild something, because trades
just aren't the way.
Like we all know that majorissues happening.
I digress.
So this other major.
His Response was this that hewas going to change topics and
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introducing new sexual assaultprevention courses and a new
substance abuse program course.
Kind of interesting that hejust didn't even respond about
the barracks failing, but Atleast at least he's doing this
where he said due to a high,high rate of Sexual assault
coming up, we now introduce a40-hour course that every Marine
needs to go through when theyget to their new joint gaining
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unit, as Well as refreshercourses, kind of like what the
sharp program is if you're inthe army.
That's it's a sexual assaultprevention response.
That's what's called theMarines sharp is sexual
harassment assault responseprogram.
I didn't really look in thedetails of like what the victim
advocate protocol protocol is,what the SOP is, and we're
reporting to a representative ifthey are Service member or
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civilian, if there's teams ofthat, just like in the army.
I didn't really look to compare, contrast the programs.
It's a good topic to look intoLater on.
Thank you, tini.
So then, with the substanceabuse program, this is mostly
due to a Higher rate of deathdue to the overdose of fentanyl.
They did not disclose how manydeaths there have been, they
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haven't disclosed thepercentages.
They haven't disclosed any drugrelated Incident reports.
The only thing they said isthat there was a higher rate of
fentanyl.
So they're introducing the UAprogram to now test for and I
quote, opiates, narcotics, thc,delta 8, cannabinoids and
fentanyl.
Fentanyl is the last labeledone.
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I'm not sure where people thinkit's a good idea to do fentanyl
like, if you do fentanyl you areSetting yourself up for failure
.
It is not cool to do.
It is not okay.
A Lot of people maybe don't endup dead but like, maybe you're
in Texas and you've ever drivendown 35 in a major city, you
will end up like a guy yellingat your Gatorade bottle, you as
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a cell phone.
If you stay on ventinol and Idon't think anybody that cares
about you wants to see you there.
Don't do it for sergeant majorof the army also essentially
failed the army housinginspection these past few months
, but they did bring up an ideasaying that there is an idea to
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privatize it.
Privatizing as in not usingsubcontracted government
employees, not using soldiersfor details.
Like they are going to havetheir own team of builders, team
of uh, I guess communitymembers in in a business sense
that is going to manage, run andmaintain the barracks.
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Now, what, what does the costand play have in comparison to
using the subcontract people?
Or what?
What does it look like?
Are they going to completelyre-change, remodel the barracks?
Because, like.
Also, I acknowledge it has to bea barracks.
It's not meant to be the bestplace of comfort, it's not meant
to be a bougie luxury apartment.
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So you know, maybe, maybe atleast doing like a dorm setting
and kind of like a setup, as iflike what the air force does
make, that would be, I think, abetter position and a direction
to look to than just saying, hey, like we're going to completely
destroy the barracks andrebuild them.
I I also understand that.
So I want to be clear that Idon't think we should just
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demolish and put in luxuryapartments.
Okay, any an e2, e3, that's 17,18, 19 years old, does not need
a luxury apartment because onethey don't know how to maintain
it, they don't know how to cleanit, they don't know how to work
with appliances probably.
So I understand, pump with abrakes on that.
But doing a dorm oriented, Ithink, barracks similar to the
air force, is a way to go aboutit and then privatizing, using
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private companies that get uminspected and regulated by local
city codes.
It, I think, is is the generalconsensus of a good way forward.
Um, obviously, if you come downto a city that has very poor
code enforcement or poor coderegulations and is going through
a lot of things.
Locally.
That may not be the best, but Ithink in other places it might
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be better, because there's gonnabe a city ordinance that
inspects the barracks and it'slike a civilian say hey, I can
now directly report this up andthis will get sent up probably
quicker.
Then soldiers is calling,complaining, waiting, you know,
like I said, two months to havewet, soggy, moldy insulation
removing or replaced.
Uh, what, what the actualproposal is for that?
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I'm not sure.
Also, is this going to affect,like soldiers, like are they
gonna have to do some sort ofdifferential pay?
Is it going to affect b a q orb a h or b a s, depending on if,
um example, there's like cnapackets or there's like tdy
temporary housing, there ishousing on base.
I don't think it really messedwith the housing that much, but
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it's just questions that gotasked in the testimonial
community and the committee, or,sorry, committees that kind of
like, don't have a full, uhin-depth understanding of b a h,
b a s and the extra payincentives that service members
get along with, like coveringfor our housing.
Uh, the air force their onlything was they got a question
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about was still reducing theirforce and in their modernization
plan they still said, hey,we're going to downsize our
force due to automatictechnology, including ai and
robots taking over many ofpositions that we can replace a
human for.
This is quite similar to, ifyou know anything about the
logistics industry on the westcoast currently in the west
coast, uh, ai and robots aretaking away like truck yard
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positions, um, inside warehouseworkers and the replacing with
robots and ai.
That's what the air force iskind of taking on a personnel
standpoint, not not logistics oranything.
And so instead of having somany computer operators, you
just have a ai generatedcomputer robot that does the
computer programming and thecomputer software monitoring for
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you and then you don't have tohave as many personnel.
So I understand their aspect islike hey, you know it's less
people we put in a fighting risk.
I know that it makes themeasier to join, but also makes
it more competitive becausethere is less jobs available on
the market.
Overall, I think the testimonyand the first hearing committee
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on the barracks and the currentstate of what the armed services
is going through, I think it'sa great topic and I think it's a
great starting point.
Um, I do believe that amultitude of congressmen and
congresswomen are listening andare trying to make the armed
services better because nomatter, no matter which way
you're left, right, democrat,republican, what have you no
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matter what your politicalstance is, you can't have a
political stance if there isn'ta military.
That's an all volunteer forcethat, if and if we did go into a
serious conflict, would be thata fight for your freedom of
rights, because you would not beable to have that same freedom
of right in a lot of countriesaround the world.
I really hope that comes to arealization.
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I think it is coming to arealization to the next scary
moment that happened.
If you are at fort steward, 239armored uh gallery regiment,
what have you right?
If you are there, what is goingon?
In the past year, you guys havehad multiple deaths.
You guys had someone fraud theentire Small Business
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Association and fraud a entirestock index, thinking that it
was a legit banking scheme.
I was kind of confused inreading it, but it's pretty much
what it was coming down to.
So that's not the stories I'mtalking about.
I'm talking about what happenswhen social media takes over.
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Lieutenant Colonel Decker andCommand Sergeant Major Morgan
were essentially called whitenationalists in a fascist
dictatorship.
I don't know the full scope onwhat brought it to this point.
So what happened is a soldierphotoshopped their composites,
which is like their displayphotos on a leadership board.
So they basically took theirphotos, minimized them on
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composites and placed a Hitlerstash on the Lieutenant Colonel
Decker and a Ku Klux Klan hoodon the Command Sergeant Major
Morgan One.
I mean, okay, that's entirelydisrespectful and you shouldn't
do that, and that is prettyfucked up to call someone a Nazi
white nationalist with noprescribed evidence with that.
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So this was hung up in thebattalion across the battalion
of multiple spots.
As a result, the Second Brigade, 39th Armored Regiment, decided
to create a mass punishment.
This also disregarded regulation, and if anyone knows about Fort
Jackson, fort Benning or morewhatever, have you the blue book
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on how soldiers need sleep andeveryone's required four to
eight hours, depending if you'rein the field or in garrison.
Well, no exceptions were made.
Whether you had a family careplan, you had to get your kids
or if you were coming off a 24hour staff duty.
Basically, if you came off that24 hour staff duty, you were
scheduled in six hours to doyour eight hour shift.
You were showing up to do youreight hour shift period.
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No discussions.
If you pulled a night shift,you were still going to show up
for PT.
So if you got out at six, youneed to be back there at six 15
to be the for PT, which you'restill going to be late because,
as everyone knows, you need tobe 15 to the 15 to the 15 to the
15 prior.
Just how it is.
Unfortunately, instagram andReddit took to the offensive
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Instagram pages, which some ofyou know based on your rank and
based on certain acronyms,called like WTF you can pretty
much assume who I'm speakingabout along with multiple Reddit
Reddit threads, screenshotting,multiple pictures of group
chats, text messages, fights,along with NCOs and soldiers not
being able to attend, losingthe weekend passes revoked last
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minute, can't get money back ontheir flights.
It's a lot of really bad thingswere happening on this match
punishment across a brigade,with this multitude of eight
hour, with this eight hour guardshift going on concurrently and
basically around the clock timesimultaneously.
These Sergeant, major,lieutenant, colonel did not take
part in working anythingoutside of the duty day hours,
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which is unfortunate Becausethen, however, as we come into
two weeks later, theyessentially got told you need to
stop this right now, which theydid.
So there's no longer ongoingeight hour, 24 hour shifts,
there's still staff duty in theCQ and the normal things, but
anything related to thisincident has not happened About
two weeks later and there isstill no acting investigation on
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who did it, who posted it.
I'm not even sure there's beenreally any articles released on.
You know what was?
What was the climate culturelike?
And this is where I want tobring up, if you are in these
upper echelons of command andthis is also circling back to
the Sergeant Major committeesand the Chief Petty Officer
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committees that you were in suchhigh echelons, higher echelons
of command, and you probablyhave not been on the line in a
good 15 to 20 years.
And when I say on the line,like in the direct line in a
company, on a platoon, in asquad doing things, I think at
the company level, I think thecommanders is where it starts
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having some disconnect, becauseyou have to put in systems, have
to control metrics andreadiness that you're doing
different, differentadministration things versus the
tactical part.
Right, and at this level ofbeing a battalion commander and
a battalion command SergeantMajor, maybe you had policies in
place that were not positive orgood for the battalion as a
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whole.
So I would ask looking at thisis saying, hey, did you ever
conduct climate surveys, likemonthly climate surveys, like
you're supposed to do in ArmyCommand Policy?
Did you conduct any sort ofinvestigation and sign an IO and
create a memorandum for recordon this investigation before you
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just went gun hoe on this masspunishment?
Was there any insight to whowas on staff duty, who was in
the battalion office after hoursafter the duty day?
That's someone I wouldimmediately hold accountable.
Right, where was that?
Where was the NCO supposed tobe doing his checks?
Who found the said papers?
Who found the said images?
And if it was Photoshopped anddigital, hypothetically someone
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might have saved it.
Did they do it on a PhotoshopGov computer, because you can
access your composites on theGov computer?
There's a lot of steps thatcould have been done to, I think
, do a proper investigation.
But also, if I am higherechelons of command, as in a
Colonel, brigade Commander or aBrigade Deputy or a Division
Deputy General, I would open theIO investigation on myself and
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say, hey, like, where's yourclimate control surveys?
Where is any recent feedback?
There's also been multipleinstances across the battalion
prior to this.
What's the follow-up reportswith that?
Has there been safety standdowns?
Have there been or days tocreate like team environment
building or organizationbuilding, administration
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building?
Are we in touch with what'sgoing on with our soldiers
outside of the GarrisonEnvironment mission?
Because in the Garrisonenvironment you're not mission
critical, you're not goingthrough super mission-related
things Like if you're on adeployment or you have an NTC,
jrtc rotation coming up.
I totally understand that beingimportant, pressing that maybe
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other issues fall to the cracks.
But generally speaking, likewhat was the climate of your
organization and your battalion?
That's a really big questionand my unit, for example we do
try to do the monthly but at theminimum quarterly, quarterly is
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definitely ending like everytime, like something does happen
.
They come in immediately hey,here's a chap, here's the
resources, here's.
We're going to have a safetystand down or day and talk about
X, y and Z and discuss what'sgoing on.
That way there's never adisconnect.
From the upper echelons ofcommand and to the lowest level,
everyone has a dissemination ofinformation.
This is a great time to have adichotomy and a great time to
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have a conversation up and down,up and down the levels of
command building that you can.
You know NCOs who are maybe moresenior, can understand,
sometimes the Joe's.
They also can be a middlemanand step up as a professional
leader, saying, hey, maybe thisis what you think is going on,
but this is the reason why givethem the why, so that they feel
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important and they feel thatwhat they're doing is necessary,
right, if you empower yourpeople to feel important,
necessary and valued and whatthey're doing is meaning
something more than just moppinga motor pool when it's raining
We've all seen time to timeunderstand, sometimes for
punishment, but sometimes justis what it is.
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It's something to look at asleaders when you come up into
the ranks and you have all thesepeople right Now understanding
you're not going to makeeveryone the happiest at every
point in time and there's goingto be times you have to make
hard decisions.
But that's the point you're infor Now.
Do I think at any point in timethat someone deserves to be
called a Hitler or a Ku KluxKlan leader?
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No, that's absolutely not.
There's probably.
You could have done a open doorpolicy.
You could have discussed yourdisgruntleness to probably
higher echelons.
You could have gone to yourchap.
You could have gone to maybeCID or IG, depending on the
issue.
Let them kind of give you aback brief on what you can and
cannot do, can and cannot saywhat they think the issue is,
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and then maybe there would havebeen a follow-up saying, hey,
we're going to have an opendiscussion on things, right, and
then that's where people needto speak up and use their words
and be mindful and professionaland polite to discuss what's
going on from the upper echelonsto the lower echelons.
I'm going to give updates onthis and I'm going to update you
guys as I find out more.
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If there does come aninvestigation.
What happens to the soldierafter this?
Well, hopefully there's a lotmore answers that come out to
what led to this event happeningand finally we're going to talk
about, finally we're going toget to the last part, which is,
I said pretty much, to get adishonorable discharge, you have
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to kill, rape or fuck withsomeone's kid.
That's essentially how you'regoing to get a dishonorable
discharge out of the army.
And so here's some recentstories that have gone on right.
First one he is an E7 Sergeant,first Class, not going to say
names in or anything, not goingto say who they are.
Some of them actually aren'teven in my unit or even on the
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installation that I'm at.
Okay.
So first one, right?
I kid you not.
Okay.
So an E7 with an E3 in aemotional relationship, one
that's a no-go, isfraternization right?
Second thing going on with thatis that it led to a conflict of
interest which then escalatedinto domestic violence in a
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sharp case, which then led to acease and assist order, then to
a no contact order, where thenboth military police and
civilian police helped createand these, you had these
restraining orders, no contactorders, and this this dude put
an Apple car tag on her car andwas following her everywhere he
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went.
Then, on top of that, he gotcaught in a altercation.
After the restraining order,after received charges for
assault, harassment, endangering, reckless driving, resisting
arrest, this dude still did notget a dishonorable discharge.
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That's story one.
Story two God dude, I had arape charge, beat the case, but
hopefully, after he beat thecase, he said yeah, I did it, at
least I thought, and what Ithought could happen was yeah,
maybe it got dismissed incivilian court, but the military
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have their own court, they havetheir own set of rules, set of
things you can do and can't do.
So I thought it was possiblylike hey, maybe they'll come get
them on that end.
It never happened.
Then the dude failed multipleUA's still just got a couple
articles still in the army.
Okay, he got caught with weedby civilians, came back to post,
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got caught again physicallywith the weed in hand and his
decision was to eat it.
So he ate all the evidence, ifyou will.
So they couldn't prove that hehad a shit ton of drugs I don't
know how much he had and becausehe already failed the one UA
and then they're like well, he'salready gonna have weed in the
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system.
So this is gonna be not exactlyaccurate to if he did this
right now or 24 hours ago.
Okay, interesting point, Iguess.
Smart move, I guess, if youwant to put it like that,
continuing right.
So the chain of command tookhis keys, suspended his guy to
post.
This dude stole his roommate'scar, still is acting in the army
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, following this back to backweeks after being suspended to
post and already had that wholecar situation figured out.
He got caught being off postone three hours away.
So one, if you put it in a passthat gives you the clearance to
go 250 miles.
Certain distance away, right,usually about two hours is about
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150 miles, so it's a couplehours is kind of like the thing
this dude was just saw far away.
It took forever to report thatany, any still has a guy in
trouble.
He is pending some things, youknow, hopefully when he gets out
, but like this dude, fucked uphow many times and still did not
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get threatened to kicked outadmin sub or anything like that
blows my mind.
Next instance okay, dude ismarried, got caught cheating on
his wife, prostitution, adultery, money laundering, all while
deployed.
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Came back from deployment stillin, still has been kicked out.
He got caught doing grand theft, auto beating his child, his
wife wife was in the hospitalhad endangered welfare of a
child, kidnapping that.
Those charges eventually gotdropped because he said that he
had custody paperwork, whichtechnically he did.
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It was just it was like sixyears old and never made changes
to it, so they can't say if itdid or didn't resisting arrest,
dwi, and then he had about threeor four DWIs.
The dude still left the army ashonorable.
I'm not sure how that happens,I'm not sure what you have to do
for that, but to get itdishonorable.
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I really am curious to see whatyou have to do and how far you
have to go with that.
That.
That's just crazy to me, which.
That is where we're going towrap up this episode.
I hope that some of you lookinto that Lieutenant Colonel and
that Command Sergeant Major.
If you get any updates aboutthe situation, let me know.
Also, we're dropping the newwebsite and all the new podcast
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We're going to be doing agiveaway coming up, so stay
tuned for that.
Appreciate you guys.
Thank y'all for still beinghere supporting the show,
charlie Mike.