September 18, 2025 • 61 mins
What if the spiritual framework you've been taught is actually limiting your potential? Reginald Martin's journey from devout Christian to spiritual teacher reveals how ancient African wisdom might hold the key to unlocking your true power.
Growing up in the church, Reginald faced a pivotal moment at 15 when he questioned his mother about salvation: How could good people of other faiths go to hell while deathbed converts receive salvation? Her simple "yep" launched him on a decades-long exploration that eventually led to the development of what he calls "Kometa Physics" – a spiritual framework based on ancient Egyptian principles.
The conversation delves into the profound difference between religion and spirituality. Religion, Reginald explains, positions God as external – something to worship and seek validation from. Spirituality, particularly from the Kemetic perspective, recognizes that we are divine sparks experiencing human life. "If God is an ocean," he illustrates, "then we are drops in that ocean – and the ocean is in every drop."
This perspective shift transforms everything. Rather than seeing ourselves as broken sinners, we recognize our inherent divinity and creative power. The biblical stories, viewed through this lens, become frameworks for understanding universal human experiences rather than literal historical accounts. Jesus walking on water, for example, symbolizes rising above emotional turmoil to find clarity – a moment when we embody the Christ consciousness.
Reginald shares how these principles carried him through losing everything three times as an entrepreneur. Instead of viewing failures as punishment, he saw them as feedback reflecting his inner state. By finding slivers of joy during his darkest moments, he discovered how to realign with his soul's purpose and create a life of freedom – one where he hasn't used an alarm clock in five years and lives entirely on his own terms.
Whether you're questioning your faith, struggling to find purpose, or simply curious about alternative spiritual perspectives, this conversation offers a refreshing framework that honors our divine nature without the constraints of dogma. Visit Reginald's Substack to learn more about how ancient wisdom can help you create the life you truly desire.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
All right, welcome.
Welcome to the Journey toFreedom podcast.
This is Dr B.
I am your host today.
I am more than excited today tohave a conversation with Mr
Reginald Martin.
We get to talk before the showand sometimes we call it the
green room.
In the green room, you makesure that everybody's on the
(00:40):
same page and you're going totalk about the same things, and
sometimes in the, you know, thegreen room, I'll be there for
you know a minute.
We got it down, boom, ready togo.
Sometimes I lose myself becausethe guest is so interesting that
I want to just start askingthem questions right away and
forget to hit the record button.
(01:02):
And so we're going to repeatsome of it, because in this case
, it was one of those times.
We started talking about wherehe lives, we started talking
about people we know, we startedtalking about stuff that he's
doing, how he's changing theworld, all these wonderful
things, and then I'm like, oh,this should probably all been
recorded.
So you have a treat.
I can promise you that today,because we're going to have some
(01:24):
fun.
Have a treat, I can promise youthat today, because we're going
to have some fun just talkingabout life we're going to talk
about.
He talks about somewhere andhis life is based on what he
calls calm metaphysics.
I'm not saying he calls it that, I'm just saying he told me
that's what it's called and Ihad to get a little
clarification because I guesswhen the Ka part is about the
Egyptian and he's talking about,well, I'll let him tell you all
(01:47):
about it, because when I thinkabout metaphysics and I think
about, you know, spiritualityand where we're at and where I
believe I'm at in my, I guess,my walk and my vision, and we
begin to start talking about,you know, what does it mean to
be spiritual versus beingreligious?
You know, and when I look backat world religions, there has
(02:13):
been a lot of if I just want tosay the word evil that has been
done in the name of religion,and that's from probably the
biggest religious organizations,uh, that exist today, uh, and
so we're gonna, we're gonnareally talk about, we're gonna
dive deep into, uh, you know,some of these subjects that you
(02:33):
know some people sometimes arejust afraid to uh even talk
about, and so, well, you knowwhat if my mom hears this, or
what if my dad hears this?
Or I was, I was brought up thisway and, uh, you, and now I'm
thinking a little bit different.
But I still want people to loveme, and if I start talking like
this, they might not love me nomore, and so I hope we don't go
(02:54):
there today.
I hope we get to spend a wholebunch of really good quality
time which I know we will onjust that aspect of our life
which is spirituality.
But I also want to just, youknow, I want to talk about
identity.
I want to talk about what doesit mean?
He's from Dallas, texas, and hegrew up in Dallas, texas.
So here's what I can promiseyou I have a cousin and friends
(03:16):
and all kinds of people that arepart of the heart of Dallas.
The Dallas of 2025 is not theDallas of 1983, when I first got
to go on K-104 with my cousinand talk about the weather and
that kind of stuff.
And so you know, because I was,I was graduating high school in
1983 and you know I got to comeout for the summer I don't know
(03:38):
if I just graduated before andso I stayed with my cousin for a
couple of years a couple ofweeks, not a couple of years, a
couple of weeks, as we weretrying to.
Maybe it was right before,because I was trying to make
sure what college I was going to.
He wanted me to go to SMU, andso I didn't end up going there.
I went to school in California,but we just got to hang out,
and so I was just in Dallasabout four weeks ago and it's
(04:02):
not the same Dallas, I thinksince I've been there in 1983
and I go often they built like5,000 bridges, like you're on
the freeway, and everywhere yougo is a bridge on top of a
bridge on top of a bridge.
I'm like, oh my gosh, but buthow fun it is.
And so, uh, rachel, I want youto go ahead.
(04:22):
Do you like to be?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
or rather me call you Reggie, or you go by Reginald,
or how does that Reginald isgood.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So I'm good with Reginald.
I want Reginald to tell hisstory, because one of the things
that I love about this podcastand I love about the time that
we spend together in it, is weget to know who the person is,
way more so than we get to knowwhat they do.
And if you know the person andyou kind of relate, you know he
(04:50):
tells a story.
Oh yeah, that was how it wasfor me back in the day or
whatever it was Then it's a loteasier when he says this is what
I do to go.
Oh, I get it.
You know, I understand.
You know I talked to the guywho's an attorney, you know, I
understand.
You know I talked to the guywho's who's an attorney, you
know, and he started out, youknow, you know, just in the suit
and ready to go, and you knowhe's a criminal attorney and
(05:10):
he's getting all these peopleout like I can never do that.
And then he talks about likerunning barefoot in the you know
, out in the desert.
And they're not in the desert,on the farm.
And you know somebody had tocome off the streets and get
them.
And you know somebody had tocome off the streets and get him
, and you know, because he wasmessing up and tearing up like,
oh yeah, you was normal, justlike us, you all, you all refine
now, but you was normal.
(05:31):
So go ahead and tell your storyand then we'll just chop it up
after that.
Thank you for being on.
Thank you for taking the timeand being the willingness to be
on the show today.
I sure appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Hey, you bet, dr B, I'm so excited to be here and
it's so cool to find out aboutthose connections that we have.
You know, you and your cousin,and I grew up listening to your
cousin on the radio.
So when you talk about beingout here in the 80s and I was
listening to him in the 70s, youknow so.
So we have that in common.
(06:03):
But so what I'll do is I'lljust'll just talk about my story
in the context of what I do, sohow I discovered the things
that I discovered, because whatI do is actually what I've lived
and I share those experiencesand I share those ideas with
others.
So that's kind of the way thatI look at it and basically it
(06:28):
started with me.
When we talk about spiritualityand stuff like that and let me
tell you, dr B, I'm not one ofthose that are afraid to talk.
So whatever we want to go into,I talk about it.
I've lived so many years.
If a person don't like mebecause they don't agree with me
, that's just the way it is.
But you know I love everybody.
(06:50):
So you know you don't have toagree with me for you to like me
, because it's just normal forus to have different
perspectives and differentexperiences of life, you know.
So for me it really started injust talking about spirituality,
(07:13):
because, for one, I live bythree principles, and we talked
about this a little bit earlier.
But one is that we are thecreators of our reality.
Two, we are gods and goddessesin training that's.
That's what we're here on theearth plane to do is to learn
that we are creators.
And three, life is feedback,not a curse.
So that right there takes usaway.
(07:36):
And I grew up Christian, so Iunderstand that was the
foundation of what I live, ofwhat I live.
But I started asking questionsvery early, so 15 years old.
I just remember talking to mymother and I asked her a
question that I had on my mind.
I said, mom, if somebody who'sJewish, that doesn't believe in
(07:57):
Jesus as their savior, they dogood all their lives.
What I've been taught is thatthey're going to go to hell, but
somebody that is, say, a massmurderer on their deathbed, they
can accept Jesus as theirsavior and then they'll go to
heaven.
And I said something justdoesn't seem right about that.
(08:19):
Is that true?
Is that what will happen, dr B?
She looked at me and said yep,and that was pretty much the end
of the conversation.
So at that point I'messentially traumatized.
At that point I'm like you know, that just doesn't sound right.
Something's not right aboutthat.
(08:41):
And so it started me really on asearch and what ended up
happening was that, you know, Iwas a pretty good basketball
player in college and I ended upgetting a scholarship.
But the summer before I went tocollege, I read the
autobiography of Malcolm Xprobably one of my favorite
books on the planet, okay, andand he talked about all the
(09:05):
books that he read and he talkedabout all the studies.
So it really ended up turningme into a lifelong learner.
But I wanted to read everythinghe read, you know that's.
That's just how, how I admiredit, so admired him.
So, uh, it started me on asearch to, you know, about
history, about spirituality hetalked about it from a Muslim
(09:28):
perspective, you know and justjust the things that he found
out you know about Christianity.
So he found, you know, and itled me on the path to study the
same stuff.
Well, I ended up going to aSouthern Baptist Bible college
that's where I got my basketballscholarship to and just things
transpired there.
(09:48):
I would not change theexperience for anything.
I enjoyed it.
I met a lot of good peoplethere, but I ended up deciding
that I was atheist the time Iwas there, and now I'm spiritual
but not religious.
If you wanted to put me into acategory, now I'm spiritual but
not religious if you wanted toput me into a category, but at
(10:09):
that point I still kept studying, I still kept trying to find
out about it, but at that pointand I was atheist in a way of
(10:30):
just being rebellious okay, I'mnot going to accept this idea.
It can't be that way.
You know.
And for them, this was a collegethat was predominantly white
and you know, there was impliedin the conversations was that
you could be a good Christian,but only the best Christians are
white.
Now, that was never said, okay,but there was an implication in
(10:55):
the conversations that you had.
And for me I was like, no, I'mnot going to accept that.
You're not going to tell methat I'm inferior to you just
because of my skin color and Icannot accept your idea of God
if that's what it, what itbelieves.
So there is no God, you know.
But I still always had the, thewant and the need for a
(11:21):
connection to something biggerthan me, you know, and so so
that that was kind of how I leftthat hanging there.
Well, move forward a lot ofyears, I ended up getting
married and, you know, yearsdown the road and I still wanted
my children to have, you know,some kind of spiritual grounding
.
Spiritual grounding.
(11:42):
So I ended up going back tochurch, okay, and so I went back
to the church.
This was probably in the midnineties, but I just couldn't
stay because it just by thattime I just had outgrown the
idea that you know of what theywere teaching about God and what
(12:05):
God was, and probably, I guessthe late 90s, probably a few
more years later, I just totallyleft Christianity altogether.
Move forward, I ended up gettinga divorce and went through a
lot of difficulties, but I wasalways studying, you know,
(12:28):
studying comparative religion.
And then, you know, I startednoticing some similarities
between religions, a lot ofdifferent things that seemed
very similar, and so it justkind of stuck in my head that,
you know, there's got to be acommon ground here that
everybody is teaching from thatthese religions came from.
And so I started kind ofsearching for those ideas Around
(12:53):
2006, the secret came out.
And when the secret came out.
It was like man.
That was a whole new world forme, because all of a sudden I
got wind of metaphysics, andwhat metaphysics did was gave me
ideas and a language that wasaway from the religious dogma,
(13:17):
to where I could explore theidea of a soul and spirituality
outside the dogma, a soul andspirituality outside the dog.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So when, when that happened, um it, the secret
actually confirmed things that Ihad already started to to
recognize in my life.
Okay, so, this is, this is, and.
And one of the things that thesecret taught was that thoughts
become things.
And okay, so what, what, what'sin your mind can become reality
(13:49):
.
Well, the way that that becamea reality for me was through
after my divorce.
I was dating, okay, and Istarted to notice a pattern in
my relationships, you know, withwomen.
So I would, you know, datedifferent women, but there was a
(14:11):
pattern that was common betweenthem.
Okay, so I started to thinkabout, because at first, after
being divorced, you know, you'rebitter, or at least I was, okay
, you're bitter, or at least Iwas.
At first I was bitter about itand I just figured it was
(14:32):
something that was wrong withwomen.
But then, after a while, I hadto wonder unless these women are
getting together and conspiring, these women that do not know
each other, never met each other, unless they're getting
together and conspiring to treatme a certain way, then the only
common denominator is me.
If I'm the common denominator,then I am choosing a certain
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type of woman because of who Iam.
So at that point that meant tome that there was something
inside me that was causing me tochoose a certain type of woman
that I was having theserelationships with.
So when the secret said,thoughts become things, another
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part was that these thoughts arebeing projected from within you
, based on your vibrationalessence.
That's what those womenrepresented, what it gave me the
language to say, okay, that wasmy vibrational essence is
showing up as these women.
They're showing me something.
So that frame that gave me awhole different frame to operate
(15:47):
from, then moving forward alittle bit more and I'm studying
the secret and I'm studyingmetaphysics, and the secret kind
of intimated that the Greekshad the secret.
Well, from books that I hadread many years ago one of them
(16:07):
was Stolen Legacy by IosifGilead the Greeks learned from
ancient Egypt.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So when they?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
said the Greeks had the secret.
I was like, hmm, well, I knowthat they learned from Egypt and
they really didn't have aphilosophy until they came
through Egypt.
So it made me start to go backand study ancient Egypt and I
went to find things out aboutthe law of attraction.
(16:37):
Okay, discovering was not onlythe ideas about the law of
attraction came from Egypt, butI also found the foundation of
what most of what my Christianreligion was actually teaching
but had changed and distorted insome kind of way, but it was
(17:16):
also the foundation of what mostspiritual systems around the
world were teaching.
Okay so, but I found out theideas about the secret, and then
I found out the foundation ofmy religion that I grew up with,
that I had so many questionsabout, but nobody could ever
seem to answer.
Okay, yeah, about, but nobodycould ever seem to answer In
Egypt brought together boththose systems and then I could
actually ferret out what waschanged.
(17:38):
And then what was spirituality.
The conclusion that I came towas and this is where I teach
with Kometa physics is that thedifference between so there is a
difference between spiritualityand religion.
Religion in religion, the ideais that you, that the God that
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you know, is something that isexternal to you.
It is the idea of worshipingsomething external and trying to
get a relationship to it andhoping that external God will
validate you, love you, whateverit needs to be.
Okay, from a spiritualperspective, it is the idea that
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you are the essence of thecreator that is experiencing
life in human form.
So you are essentially a sparkof the creator experiencing
itself as a human.
Okay, and one of the ways thatI'd like to explain that is just
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through an analogy tounderstand, and this is the
ancient Kemetic and Africanspiritual system.
So one of the questions I hadwas what did ancient Africans
believe before Christianity?
So the Kemetic system answeredthose questions for me.
But what their idea of God wasis and I'm just putting it in
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modern day language but theiridea was that if God is an ocean
, okay.
So from a Kemetic perspective,god is not a human being.
God is not like a human beingof.
God is not a human being.
God is not like a human being.
God is essentially a consciousforce that we all can interact
with equally.
So if God is an ocean, then weare essentially drops in the
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ocean, okay.
Okay Then, if we are drops inthe ocean, then that means the
ocean is in every drop.
So if that is the case, thenthe idea that christianity
taught us is that we were bornsinful, wicked and, you know,
destined for hell if we didn'taccept Jesus as our savior.
(20:03):
Okay, so that was a differentway of thinking than most of the
ancient systems taught.
That was, christianity changedsomething there?
Okay, but what I saw in thatwas that it also created a way
of thinking that ended up makingus create a pattern of
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self-loathing, self-doubt andreally to hate ourselves.
And what I saw was and how Isaw that was that in my
communities growing up, I grewup in poverty.
I knew a lot of communitieswhere people that looked like me
lived in poverty.
So why was that?
Because I knew that there ofcommunities where people that
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look like me lived in poverty.
Okay, so why was that?
Because I knew that there wasmoney in our community, I knew
that there was educated peoplein our community.
But why didn't people buildself-sustaining economically
self-sustaining communities?
From an African-Americanperspective and a lot of times
in the African diaspora aroundthe world, well, one of the
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things that the book, theautobiography of Malcolm X, one
of the lines that stuck out withme, that stayed with me for a
long time, was he said the twomen can go to Harvard and get a
degree.
One can be a white man and onecan be a black man.
The white man will go and starta business, then the black man
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will go and get a job from him.
Dr B, that just that stuck withme because it's like okay, well
, what's the difference?
Why?
Why is that?
Why didn't that black man thinkthat he could start a business
too?
And what it came down to me wasis that I felt like on Sundays
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that many of us ingested theidea that we were broken, that
we were born sinners and that wewere wicked, and that
undermines any level ofconfidence that you have in
yourself and your ability tobuild anything.
People who believe they arebroken cannot build.
But from a comedic perspectivefrom the ancient African
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perspective.
We are not broken, we're notborn sinners, we are born divine
, and because we are a divinespark, we have the ability to
create just like the creatordoes.
And even biblically it says weare made in the image of God,
but the image is not physical.
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Okay, we will.
A lot of us take that literal as, as as the image of God is
something that we, that we looklike.
God that's.
That's not what it's about,because the idea of god is in
everything, whether it's a rockor a person.
The idea of god is, is, is, uh,everything is imbued with this,
this, this essence, okay, so,so that's the foundation that I
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built Kemeticism from, and theway that I looked at it, too,
was that I wanted to reachpeople.
You know so.
So it is African spirituality,but it is for humanity.
That's one of the ways I lookat it.
But I knew that that, as far asreaching my people in my
community, there was no way thatI was going to be able to do
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that without going through theBible first, because people are
going to have to feel safe aboutwhat you know, because, I mean,
you're talking about anexistential crisis if you don't
believe a certain way, know thatyou, you, your eternal life is
in peril, you know yeah, yeahbut but what I did was I ended
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up, uh, finding that that commonfoundation of spiritual
spirituality, and realized thata lot of the ways that we were
taught the bible uh, we weretaught an exoteric perspective
of the Bible, but it is actuallywritten in esoteric language,
so there's an esoteric or hiddenknowledge written underneath
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the stories.
We get locked in on the stories,but there is another layer
that's beneath the stories isactually what the real message
is.
So that's the foundation thatcomedicism is built on, and I
can stop there, but I can keepgoing, but that's essentially.
It is that we are gods andgoddesses in training and that
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life is feedback.
So that's a foundationalprinciple that I've built and
that stuff and those principlesare basically ancient African
spirituality and that's wherethese ideas came from.
I'm updating them with anupdated language and processes
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and tools that we use to buildfrom within processes and tools
that we use to build from within.
I'm sorry, Dr B, I can barely.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Dr B.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Hello, hear you saying something, but you're
fading in and out.
I'm sorry.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I think we're back.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you Okay cool, We'lljust edit that part out.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
We're still on and we're going and I can hear you
perfectly well and I'm not surewhat's going on with our
internet here, that I don't knowif we have a storm or something
.
That's just kind of not likingus.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But if you can hear me now yeah, I don't know if
it's on my end.
Are you okay hearing me?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
now though.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, I can hear you now.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay.
So what are the questions thatthat?
Because it's so embedded intoour culture, it's so embedded
into the belief system of who weare.
I watched something like theSecret back in 2006.
I said these are some reallycool things, but how do I fit
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that in to my own belief system?
So it all makes sense and Iknow that's kind of what you
were doing as well.
So how did you, withoutthrowing out what you'd learned
and been part of you, stillbegin to accept maybe a new way
of thinking, because I can'timagine it was like you just
(29:32):
turn one off and turn the otheron.
There had to be some overlap.
Maybe kind of talk about that alittle bit.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely yeah, because growing
up Christian we're taught acertain way, we're taught a
certain frame and way ofthinking.
And that's the way I look at itand I separate it from really
the idea of being a born sinnerto an idea of being born divine.
So those are two differentframes and two different
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perspectives.
So it's a different, twodifferent paradigms of thinking.
So it took, so I would say Iwas in.
Now they call it deconstruction,where you start to deconstruct
your old beliefs.
You know, through Christianitythat wasn't anywhere around.
You know, when I was goingthrough what I was going through
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, but I stayed in deconstructionmode for probably 20 years.
Okay, and what that means is isthat I had knowledge that I
couldn't go back to the oldbeliefs and the old beliefs that
I had as a Christian, but Ididn't have enough knowledge or
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anything else that I could moveforward with.
So I couldn't reconstruct.
Okay, until I found the Kemeticstuff.
So what that helped me do waswhere I was basically in a
mental limbo in a sense.
The Kemetic teachings helped meto understand the idea of the
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KRST, what the Christ is.
Okay, so the KRST, or Christ,existed 10,000 years before
Christianity was ever eventhought about.
Ok, and, and so I was able torecognize really the the
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foundational ideas, because theidea of the Christ is something
that is in most spiritualsystems around the world.
Ok, so, and in that sense,christianity became the outlier.
And what I, what I figured outwas is that and I just put it in
a simple way to grasp this ideais that what Christianity
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claimed was new was not true,and what was true was not new.
Okay, so that's how I had to.
That transition for me wasreally finding out what the
ancient, these ancient spiritualideas were, devoid of the dogma
(32:10):
.
So that's why I had to movefrom dogma to just more of a
position of I'm developing my,it's my internal divinity or my
internal, really justself-development is really what
it was.
I would say the ancientteachings were more about
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self-development and our innerjourney than trying to placate
something outside of ourselves.
I hope I answered your question.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh yeah, absolutely, you did as I'm thinking through,
or I've had conversations withpeople and trying to understand
the creator or God.
How do you?
Because some people have said,no, there is no God, we are the
gods and other people say, well,we do have a creator, but we
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are kind of that relationshipbetween the creator and us.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Maybe help me understand that a little bit
better yeah, and from a comedicperspective, we so growing up,
we were taught that god is thishuman-like individual.
So so the the idea that that,uh, and this is through the
greeks and the romans, theyactually humanized the idea of
god.
Okay, but the ancient, ancientAfricans' idea of God was they
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didn't humanize it, it wasanthropomorphized.
The difference is that theancient Africans didn't see God
as like a human.
What they did was they wantedus to understand how the
metaphysical world becamephysical.
So when they anthropomorphized,they took a natural aspect of
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us and said that this is whatthis function of the universe is
like.
Okay, so when they did that,they weren't looking at saying
that that God was a human.
They were trying to tell uswhat this particular function of
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the universe was.
And I guess one of the betterways that I can explain it is
really to take the story ofJesus and how.
Just take one of the miraclesof Jesus and put it into context
of of the comedic idea of it,how it relates to life, and then
the symbolic idea, okay, okay,so, um, and let's just start
(34:47):
with life.
Okay, and you tell me, if thishas ever happened to you, dr B,
that you have ever went throughsomething where you know you
were like in emotional turmoil,that you had some difficulties.
I mean, you're an entrepreneur,so I'm asking you this, but I
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know it's just rhetorical.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yes, absolutely rhetorical.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yes, absolutely so.
As entrepreneurs, we're goingto go through some difficult
times where we questioneverything, we're in fear, we're
feeling all of this stuff, soour emotions are all over the
place.
But then, at some point, youget through whatever the
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emotional turmoil was, thingssettle down and you go on about
living life and doing whatyou're supposed to do.
So you reconcile whatever youwere dealing with emotionally.
Okay.
So that is a natural function.
So you have been through that.
I'm 100% positive, because Idon't think we can get out of
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life without that happening.
So well.
That human experience issomething that everybody has
gone through since we had humanson the planet.
Okay, the ancients knew that aswell.
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So what they did is theycreated frameworks, and this is
what a lot of the ancientteachings is doing is they're
really giving us these simpleframeworks to tell us, to help
initiates understand.
This is what's going to happen,you know.
But when you went through yourdifficult time, did you ever
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have a moment where you went, oh, I get it.
Now I understand.
Okay, now this is what I needto do.
I'll proceed, okay, yeah, okay.
So that's something that a lotof us go through.
Well, so what I just explainedwas the symbolic representation
(37:05):
of the miracle of Jesus walkingon water.
So Jesus as ananthropomorphized symbol and I
don't mean to offend people, I'mjust taking it back to the
ancient teachings, the ancientAfrican teachings, where it came
from okay, but Jesus isbasically the moment of
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enlightenment, that aha momentAh, I get it and then it brings
enlightenment or awakening tothe person.
So the idea that first thewaters were turbulent and
symbolically, the turbulentwater can stand for emotions,
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that aha moment is when you riseabove your emotions and you're
no longer operating in fearanymore, you're operating in
okay, well, this is what I needto do to get things done and
this is what I need to do tocomplete the task or whatever it
is.
At that moment you're walkingon the water, you're walking
above, you're operating abovethe level of the turbulent
(38:15):
emotions.
They're not there anymore.
In that moment you becomepeaceful, you become at peace,
you become balanced, in thatmoment you become the Christ,
the K-R-S-T.
Okay, rst, okay.
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So that's how you would, how Iwould take a person from
understanding that, from adogmatic perspective, we were
supposed to believe in the ideaof the miracle and we're
supposed to, you know, worshipthe miracle, but in reality.
It was a framework to tell usjust things that we go through.
That's the way that I wouldcharacterize the idea of us
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being a God.
Is that we have the ability tocreate in our reality.
But the deal is that we are allin training in a sense, because
Earth is a school school andwe're learning of our ability to
create, and part of that islearning and going through the
difficulties of life to whereyou can calm the storms when
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they come.
But if you believe that yourpower is somehow outside of you,
a lot of times you don't calmthe storm, and I can tell you
that anybody that has evercalmed that storm recognized the
power within themselves.
Now they can attribute it towhoever and whatever, but at
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some point.
they have to recognize it asthem having the ability to take
care of whatever they need totake care of to solve the
problem Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
So, and I'm tracking with you, I think we're.
I guess I'm struggling a littlebit because when I think of the
symbol in this and I believe inwhat you're saying in this a
little bit, because when I thinkof the symbol and I believe in
what you're saying, symbolicallywe can get there and I believe
God created us to create.
(40:20):
So are we saying that the storyof Jesus didn't happen or that,
like, creation is more likewhat evolution subscribes to, or
did the creator actually createit?
And we're I think you saidsomething about like we're
training what evolutionsubscribes to, or did the
creator actually create it?
And we're, like I think yousaid something about like we're,
we're, we're training to beable to be better creators, and
that kind of stuff.
(40:40):
How did all this stuff happen?
You know that the Bible I to meyou just have to have faith and
believe.
If you're going to believe thatit happened that way because it
does, it doesn't make you know,it hardly makes sense in some
aspects of it.
If you don't, you know, believethat God just did it and seven
days later it was there, orJesus was here and he performed
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those miracles, you know,because we weren't there to
watch it or see it or there, butwe believe in miracles.
So did all these things happenand then?
Or is it just symbolic of stuff?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
these things happen and then, or they're just
symbolic of stuff.
So, from so, now we're gettinginto theology and and and I want
to be careful here because Idon't want to disrespect your
beliefs and your theology Okay,I, I I'm going to respect where
you are of it.
I can say that the knowledgethat I have and that I've
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researched is that the Bible has, and the stories are about
ancient frameworks.
It's not a historical document,but, again, that is my, that's
my understanding.
That's where you know, I'vestudied a lot of stuff and
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understand that I once believedthe theology as well, you know.
So it's just different as well,you know, so, it's just
different.
But what I noticed that'shappening, dr B, is that in the
last few years, a lot of peopleare starting to walk away from
the dogmatic beliefs.
(42:26):
Okay, people are starting to.
The pews are dwindling in a lotof instances, okay, but people
are not wanting to leave theidea that there is something
bigger than them, that there isa God, okay, that that there is
something that they areconnected to, this bigger than
them.
They, they want to get awayfrom the dogmatic systems, the
(42:49):
dogmatic beliefs.
What cometa physics allowspeople to do is to examine these
ideas beyond the dogma.
That's where I want to go,because we can get bogged down
in.
You believe this or you havefaith in this, but you have the
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right and you don't have toexplain your faith to me or you
don't have to justify your faithto me.
Ok, then that's the way I lookat that.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
If that's where you, where you are with that, then I
respect that gotcha, okay, andthat makes sense and and I'm and
I'm tracking with you there.
Uh, you know it, just there's.
So there's so many questionsthat are in that.
Let me talk about your.
(43:43):
So you've done a really goodjob of explaining where you were
at and then where you have cometo.
How do you now, as ReginaldMartin and Dallas Hacks,
interact in life with otherfolks and still be able to be an
entrepreneur and have a careerand phase these ideas in?
(44:05):
And how have they helped you tomove forward in your life in
ways that you probably couldn'teven imagine before?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, yeah, great question.
Great question Because for me,again, these beliefs is one that
I'm a creator of my reality.
So that foundational belief haspulled me through so much
because, dr B, I've had my, youknow, my ups and downs.
I've lost everything I hadthree times, you know, on the
(44:41):
journey of an entrepreneur.
So for me, you know, I couldhave easily, you know, given up
or, you know, said, hey, thisjust wasn't in the cards for me.
But I also said that life isfeedback.
So the way that I look at thatis, it comes from the ancient
(45:03):
idea of va'at and that life isreciprocal.
I don't know if you've heardthe concept of as within, so
without, as above, so below.
So that ancient concept isactually connected to the idea
of ma'at, that our life is aprojection from within us.
(45:24):
So if we want to make a change,if there's something in life
that we don't like, then we canchange our beliefs.
Life that we don't like, thenwe can change our beliefs, okay,
so.
So our beliefs are beingprojected as life.
That's what's being reflectedback to us.
So life is a mirror, okay, ofour, of our inner essence.
(45:44):
So for me, as an entrepreneur,when you know, I lost everything
.
Believe me, I was down, youknow.
You know there was days Iquestioned whether I wanted to
even be here anymore.
You know that's how deep it got, you know, because I had.
I consider myself a successfulperson, and most of us that are
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successful, we do.
We, our success is based on ourwill and our hard work.
Well, the the second time Ilost everything.
I was working hard, I was doingeverything I thought I was
supposed to be doing and thingsstill didn't work out.
I was like I don't haveanything else left now.
(46:28):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, so.
So at that point, uh, you knowmy old beliefs would have said
is, am I cursed?
You know, uh, does God not wantme to have this?
You know, I I would have wentdown that road.
But I but my beliefs, from acomedic perspective is is that I
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am the creator and what I haveto do is recognize what life is
showing me and then figure outwhat I need to fix within me, OK
, what I need to, what I need torecognize and that that is
being mirrored back.
There's something, some belief,that is making me go through
(47:19):
what I'm going through.
The other part of that isconnecting our emotional states
and using emotions as ourguidance system, and what I mean
(47:40):
by that is that, you know, we Ibelieve that we are souls
having a human experience, andthat's where I come from the
comedic perspective that oursouls are ground zero and what
our souls?
We still experience our soulswhile we're in the physical.
(48:01):
So connecting emotions to thatmeans that when you're in joy,
then you are alignedvibrationally with your soul,
and when you are not in joy orfeeling depressed, you're
misaligned.
Ok, so how does that work?
You know, in real life, when Igot depressed and down.
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I was there for a little while,you know, maybe a day or two,
but then I recognized that Ijust need to find something that
brought me joy, that wouldbring me out of that OK, and it
wasn't even trying to bring meout of that Okay, and it wasn't
even trying to bring me out ofout of that.
It was just more just findingit was using my emotions as a
tool that would sort of, uh,bring some light into my life
(48:45):
rather than the darkness that Iwas in.
I hope I'm making sense.
I hope I'm I'm asking you,answering your questions.
If not, I hope I'm making sense.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I hope I'm answering your questions.
If not, stop me.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh no, you absolutely are.
I mean, this is perfect for howyou interact with life today.
So this is you know.
Again, this is just part of thetools that I teach with Kometa
Physics.
It's not trying to thinkpositive, because that's only
temporary, okay.
It's a matter of being positive.
And when I say being positive,that means that you find the
silver lining in the cloud whenyou want to make a change and
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you are in control of youremotions so you can find
something to give you thatlittle sliver of joy that can
start to bring you out.
And what it did was is itstarted to.
Once I found that little sliverof joy, then I forgot I was
depressed.
I was just enjoying myself, youknow, doing what I was doing.
Ok, so you know, I might havebeen depressed for two days but
(50:00):
all of a sudden, for an hour,doing what I was doing, I found
some joy.
Then an hour turned into twohours, ok, and then, once I
found that little sliver of joy,I said you know what?
And then, once I found thatlittle sliver of joy, I said you
know what Some other peoplemight want to know this and I
started doing something elsethat I could teach somebody that
brought me a little bit morejoy.
(50:30):
So it ended up just doingsomething, being who I was,
being who I am as a teacher, asan entrepreneur.
It ended up lighting me fromwithin and I could bring myself
out of that depressive state.
Okay, what nobody else comingwas there was.
I knew that that's what I hadto do for myself, you know.
So that's how these ideas endup interacting with life, and
(50:53):
I've taught people, I've trainedpeople, coached people, and
they have found that it hasworked as well.
So these are not justtheoretical kumbaya ideas that
I've come up with.
This is how life works.
This is a tool a lot of timestools and processes that I know
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works.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Wow, that's so cool.
So so how today?
I mean, we had about 10 minutesleft in our conversation.
So how are you helping others?
You know when I think aboutliving in purpose and living the
way that I was put on thisearth to do, or, or you know how
do I do that, and you wereevidently.
You're helping a lot of peopleunderstand themselves and what
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they do.
How do you go about thatthrough a daily basis, like, are
people coming to you and saying, hey, I'm just lost, and or are
you just finding people?
Naturally, I mean, you say thatwe create our own.
You know our own future and ourown existence and who we are.
But how do you, how do you,interact with other folks and
help them find the same joy thatyou've been able to find?
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, one of the ways they can do that is just they
can come through my Substack, mynewsletter, where I'm writing
and teaching all the time doingvideos doing different things.
Letter, where I'm writing andteaching all the time doing
videos doing different things.
But atreginaldmartinsubstackcom but
I'm constantly teaching, youknow, so people can sign up
(52:24):
there and I'm constantly doingarticles.
I also have courses in teachingthese ideas, so I can get a lot
more detail and spend a lotmore time with the courses.
But I've also developed abusiness system around the
comedic spirituality.
So the people who want to teachthis, I can actually certify
(52:47):
them and then they can get thesystem and get the ideas.
They can even get my contentthat I produce my courses,
courses and classes and they canuse it inside their coaching
and use it as a framework forthem.
So practitioners even there, Iknow that there are preachers
that are also that aredeconstructing and they want to
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preach but they feel like theyhave to give up one or the other
, and they really don't, youknow.
So I literally put togetherwhat I call comedic sermons in a
box where I can teach them theancient principles, to where
they don't have to give up whatthey have been doing.
You know they can still, youknow, talk in front of the
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congregation and teach ideasthat I feel like are liberating
and that will be uplifting, butstill understand the ideas of
Jesus and the Christ and talk topeople using that language but
having a more spiritual,non-dogmatic perspective from it
.
But my Substack account thatthat's where people can come
(53:55):
through and and then they canjust go off in different
directions there.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
So so what's next?
What's next for Reginald ashe's?
You know you're, you're doingsome blogging and you're
teaching people and you'recoaching and you're helping
folks and you're creating.
And the reason I'm asking that?
Because I know you know some ofour roles we've got to set and
you're helping folks and you'recreating it.
And the reason I'm asking that,because I know you know some of
our worlds.
We've got to set these goalsand we have to have these
timelines on these goals and wetry to, you know.
(54:22):
And but if you don't have theright mindset going into it,
basically mindset going into it,basically for you, and then I
guess, how do you?
Speaker 2 (54:43):
I'm sorry you were cutting in and out of there.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I heard how do you that comes next.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
So I heard you cutting in and out there again,
but I think I heard what do I doBasically?
What am I doing next?
Okay, and this is what I'll sayto that Dr B, is that I'm doing
everything that I want to do inmy life right now.
So for me, it is about learningto enjoy this moment, learning
(55:15):
and live in that moment andfinding the joy in every moment
that I can.
Okay, so it's living.
It's living how do I say?
I'm living life by puttingtogether moment after moment
after moment of joyousness.
That's the way I like to try tolook at it.
(55:36):
So every day, when I'm teachingand coaching and writing, my
goal is to live life joyfullyand being who I am.
That's it All day, every day,and living life on my terms.
That brings me the most joy,because I go to bed when I get
(56:00):
tired.
I wake up when I'm rested.
I haven't used an alarm clockin five years.
That's my joy.
You're talking about a journeyto freedom.
That's freedom to me is justbeing able to live life on your
terms and live it the way youwant to live it.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Oh man, that is so neat For somebody who's just
searching, somebody who feelslike they're confused, like you
did, where you're back and forth.
What advice would you give them?
Or maybe like, what is thefirst thing that they should
start reading or connecting withto really begin to understand,
(56:40):
I guess, the confusion thatthey're having and being able to
get some clarity?
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, and that's a great question and I would
definitely say, you know,definitely come through to my
sub stack for one.
There is right now.
I don't see a lot of peoplethat are in the deconstruction
space.
There are.
The danger that I've seen isthat sometimes people are trying
(57:07):
to deconstruct others butthey're staying in that same
frame.
You know, I believe if you stayin that frame that I'm a born
sinner and I'm broken, thenyou're automatically stuck.
You're going to meet somethingthat's going to be stuck.
So when you're doing yourbusiness or trying to get
something started, but I do mybest to help people to
(57:30):
transition through that with thestuff that I do, what I do is
very unique, you know, in thisspace.
So nobody has created what I'vecreated and you know there's.
I'm trying to think of booksthat might help people, but I'm
and I was trying to think ofones that I've read that were
(57:53):
doing something that I'm doingand there's just not much out
there that I can think about.
But they definitely need tounderstand that they're not
broken.
Those kind of ideas.
Start to examine that stuff.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Well, thank you, this has been such a great
conversation.
I hope we get to talk some moreat some point because I've so
thoroughly enjoyed it andlearned and grown and, oh my
gosh, you know, as we all try to, I guess, do better in life and
to make sure that we're havingthat joy you have, you know,
(58:32):
when I think about, like themovie, the Pursuit of Happiness,
and you know, are we allpursuing this happiness, and you
know, we turn over one stoneand go, oh, that wasn't it.
Then we turn over another stoneand go, oh, that wasn't it.
And it's so refreshing to seesomebody said, yeah, I turned
over some stones, but that's it,I've got it.
(58:52):
It didn't make sense, and nowthere's nothing I wouldn't
change about my life and that'sso precious.
And I hope, if you've listenedto this this is your first
podcast that you go back andyou'll listen to it and you'll
examine it and you will see whatI'm seeing and you will feel
what I'm feeling Just the joy inwhether it's in his heart or
(59:13):
whatever, if it's in his mind.
But there is joy in ReginaldMartin and I'm so enjoying
having this conversation withhim.
And so I would just say, ifthis is your first time and
you've enjoyed this, go aheadand hit the notifications.
We have so many of theseincredible cod podcasts with
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successful men who are doingexactly what they love to do in
life and making it work.
And if you're not findingsomebody, uh, through all of
these that is helping you, uh,that's because you're not
looking, you're not searching,you've already decided that it
won't work.
And but here's what I know ifyou're listening to this, you're
searching and you're looking.
(59:53):
So please go to his website.
Please look at our Substack,not the website.
Go to Substack, make sure youlook in and study some of the
things he's telling you, becauseif we are pursuing joy, it's
one way to find it.
So again, Reginald, thank youfor being on.
I appreciate it.
Like I said, I can't wait tospend more time with you as we
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continue to grow and find someconnections.
I know when I come to Dallas,I'm going to look you up and
we're going to go to dinner orsomething.
We're going to have some fun.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Sounds good.
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
And eat some stuff, and that'll be great.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
So I'd love it Dr B.
Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Cool, we love it.
Well, you guys have a wonderfulrest of your day.
This is going to be the firstday of the rest of your life I
love to say that to peoplebecause it always is because you
know you have the ability tocreate your own destiny, and
Reginald just told you exactlywhere to start to be able to do
it All right.
(01:01:02):
So we'll talk to you guys later.
Have an amazing day.
Outro Music.
All right, welcome.
Welcome to the Journey toFreedom podcast.
This is Dr B.
I am your host today.
I am more than excited today tohave a conversation with Mr
Reginald Martin.
We get to talk before the showand sometimes we call it the
green room.
In the green room, you makesure that everybody's on the
(00:40):
same page and you're going totalk about the same things, and
sometimes in the, you know, thegreen room, I'll be there for
you know a minute.
We got it down, boom, ready togo.
Sometimes I lose myself becausethe guest is so interesting that
I want to just start askingthem questions right away and
forget to hit the record button.
(01:02):
And so we're going to repeatsome of it, because in this case
, it was one of those times.
We started talking about wherehe lives, we started talking
about people we know, we startedtalking about stuff that he's
doing, how he's changing theworld, all these wonderful
things, and then I'm like, oh,this should probably all been
recorded.
So you have a treat.
I can promise you that today,because we're going to have some
(01:24):
fun.
Have a treat, I can promise youthat today, because we're going
to have some fun just talkingabout life we're going to talk
about.
He talks about somewhere andhis life is based on what he
calls calm metaphysics.
I'm not saying he calls it that, I'm just saying he told me
that's what it's called and Ihad to get a little
clarification because I guesswhen the Ka part is about the
Egyptian and he's talking about,well, I'll let him tell you all
(01:47):
about it, because when I thinkabout metaphysics and I think
about, you know, spiritualityand where we're at and where I
believe I'm at in my, I guess,my walk and my vision, and we
begin to start talking about,you know, what does it mean to
be spiritual versus beingreligious?
You know, and when I look backat world religions, there has
(02:13):
been a lot of if I just want tosay the word evil that has been
done in the name of religion,and that's from probably the
biggest religious organizations,uh, that exist today, uh, and
so we're gonna, we're gonnareally talk about, we're gonna
dive deep into, uh, you know,some of these subjects that you
(02:33):
know some people sometimes arejust afraid to uh even talk
about, and so, well, you knowwhat if my mom hears this, or
what if my dad hears this?
Or I was, I was brought up thisway and, uh, you, and now I'm
thinking a little bit different.
But I still want people to loveme, and if I start talking like
this, they might not love me nomore, and so I hope we don't go
(02:54):
there today.
I hope we get to spend a wholebunch of really good quality
time which I know we will onjust that aspect of our life
which is spirituality.
But I also want to just, youknow, I want to talk about
identity.
I want to talk about what doesit mean?
He's from Dallas, texas, and hegrew up in Dallas, texas.
So here's what I can promiseyou I have a cousin and friends
(03:16):
and all kinds of people that arepart of the heart of Dallas.
The Dallas of 2025 is not theDallas of 1983, when I first got
to go on K-104 with my cousinand talk about the weather and
that kind of stuff.
And so you know, because I was,I was graduating high school in
1983 and you know I got to comeout for the summer I don't know
(03:38):
if I just graduated before andso I stayed with my cousin for a
couple of years a couple ofweeks, not a couple of years, a
couple of weeks, as we weretrying to.
Maybe it was right before,because I was trying to make
sure what college I was going to.
He wanted me to go to SMU, andso I didn't end up going there.
I went to school in California,but we just got to hang out,
and so I was just in Dallasabout four weeks ago and it's
(04:02):
not the same Dallas, I thinksince I've been there in 1983
and I go often they built like5,000 bridges, like you're on
the freeway, and everywhere yougo is a bridge on top of a
bridge on top of a bridge.
I'm like, oh my gosh, but buthow fun it is.
And so, uh, rachel, I want youto go ahead.
(04:22):
Do you like to be?
Speaker 2 (04:27):
or rather me call you Reggie, or you go by Reginald,
or how does that Reginald isgood.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
So I'm good with Reginald.
I want Reginald to tell hisstory, because one of the things
that I love about this podcastand I love about the time that
we spend together in it, is weget to know who the person is,
way more so than we get to knowwhat they do.
And if you know the person andyou kind of relate, you know he
(04:50):
tells a story.
Oh yeah, that was how it wasfor me back in the day or
whatever it was Then it's a loteasier when he says this is what
I do to go.
Oh, I get it.
You know, I understand.
You know I talked to the guywho's an attorney, you know, I
understand.
You know I talked to the guywho's who's an attorney, you
know, and he started out, youknow, you know, just in the suit
and ready to go, and you knowhe's a criminal attorney and
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he's getting all these peopleout like I can never do that.
And then he talks about likerunning barefoot in the you know
, out in the desert.
And they're not in the desert,on the farm.
And you know somebody had tocome off the streets and get
them.
And you know somebody had tocome off the streets and get him
, and you know, because he wasmessing up and tearing up like,
oh yeah, you was normal, justlike us, you all, you all refine
now, but you was normal.
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So go ahead and tell your storyand then we'll just chop it up
after that.
Thank you for being on.
Thank you for taking the timeand being the willingness to be
on the show today.
I sure appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Hey, you bet, dr B, I'm so excited to be here and
it's so cool to find out aboutthose connections that we have.
You know, you and your cousin,and I grew up listening to your
cousin on the radio.
So when you talk about beingout here in the 80s and I was
listening to him in the 70s, youknow so.
So we have that in common.
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But so what I'll do is I'lljust'll just talk about my story
in the context of what I do, sohow I discovered the things
that I discovered, because whatI do is actually what I've lived
and I share those experiencesand I share those ideas with
others.
So that's kind of the way thatI look at it and basically it
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started with me.
When we talk about spiritualityand stuff like that and let me
tell you, dr B, I'm not one ofthose that are afraid to talk.
So whatever we want to go into,I talk about it.
I've lived so many years.
If a person don't like mebecause they don't agree with me
, that's just the way it is.
But you know I love everybody.
(06:50):
So you know you don't have toagree with me for you to like me
, because it's just normal forus to have different
perspectives and differentexperiences of life, you know.
So for me it really started injust talking about spirituality,
(07:13):
because, for one, I live bythree principles, and we talked
about this a little bit earlier.
But one is that we are thecreators of our reality.
Two, we are gods and goddessesin training that's.
That's what we're here on theearth plane to do is to learn
that we are creators.
And three, life is feedback,not a curse.
So that right there takes usaway.
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And I grew up Christian, so Iunderstand that was the
foundation of what I live, ofwhat I live.
But I started asking questionsvery early, so 15 years old.
I just remember talking to mymother and I asked her a
question that I had on my mind.
I said, mom, if somebody who'sJewish, that doesn't believe in
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Jesus as their savior, they dogood all their lives.
What I've been taught is thatthey're going to go to hell, but
somebody that is, say, a massmurderer on their deathbed, they
can accept Jesus as theirsavior and then they'll go to
heaven.
And I said something justdoesn't seem right about that.
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Is that true?
Is that what will happen, dr B?
She looked at me and said yep,and that was pretty much the end
of the conversation.
So at that point I'messentially traumatized.
At that point I'm like you know, that just doesn't sound right.
Something's not right aboutthat.
(08:41):
And so it started me really on asearch and what ended up
happening was that, you know, Iwas a pretty good basketball
player in college and I ended upgetting a scholarship.
But the summer before I went tocollege, I read the
autobiography of Malcolm Xprobably one of my favorite
books on the planet, okay, andand he talked about all the
(09:05):
books that he read and he talkedabout all the studies.
So it really ended up turningme into a lifelong learner.
But I wanted to read everythinghe read, you know that's.
That's just how, how I admiredit, so admired him.
So, uh, it started me on asearch to, you know, about
history, about spirituality hetalked about it from a Muslim
(09:28):
perspective, you know and justjust the things that he found
out you know about Christianity.
So he found, you know, and itled me on the path to study the
same stuff.
Well, I ended up going to aSouthern Baptist Bible college
that's where I got my basketballscholarship to and just things
transpired there.
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I would not change theexperience for anything.
I enjoyed it.
I met a lot of good peoplethere, but I ended up deciding
that I was atheist the time Iwas there, and now I'm spiritual
but not religious.
If you wanted to put me into acategory, now I'm spiritual but
not religious if you wanted toput me into a category, but at
(10:09):
that point I still kept studying, I still kept trying to find
out about it, but at that pointand I was atheist in a way of
(10:30):
just being rebellious okay, I'mnot going to accept this idea.
It can't be that way.
You know.
And for them, this was a collegethat was predominantly white
and you know, there was impliedin the conversations was that
you could be a good Christian,but only the best Christians are
white.
Now, that was never said, okay,but there was an implication in
(10:55):
the conversations that you had.
And for me I was like, no, I'mnot going to accept that.
You're not going to tell methat I'm inferior to you just
because of my skin color and Icannot accept your idea of God
if that's what it, what itbelieves.
So there is no God, you know.
But I still always had the, thewant and the need for a
(11:21):
connection to something biggerthan me, you know, and so so
that that was kind of how I leftthat hanging there.
Well, move forward a lot ofyears, I ended up getting
married and, you know, yearsdown the road and I still wanted
my children to have, you know,some kind of spiritual grounding
.
Spiritual grounding.
(11:42):
So I ended up going back tochurch, okay, and so I went back
to the church.
This was probably in the midnineties, but I just couldn't
stay because it just by thattime I just had outgrown the
idea that you know of what theywere teaching about God and what
(12:05):
God was, and probably, I guessthe late 90s, probably a few
more years later, I just totallyleft Christianity altogether.
Move forward, I ended up gettinga divorce and went through a
lot of difficulties, but I wasalways studying, you know,
(12:28):
studying comparative religion.
And then, you know, I startednoticing some similarities
between religions, a lot ofdifferent things that seemed
very similar, and so it justkind of stuck in my head that,
you know, there's got to be acommon ground here that
everybody is teaching from thatthese religions came from.
And so I started kind ofsearching for those ideas Around
(12:53):
2006, the secret came out.
And when the secret came out.
It was like man.
That was a whole new world forme, because all of a sudden I
got wind of metaphysics, andwhat metaphysics did was gave me
ideas and a language that wasaway from the religious dogma,
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to where I could explore theidea of a soul and spirituality
outside the dogma, a soul andspirituality outside the dog.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So when, when that happened, um it, the secret
actually confirmed things that Ihad already started to to
recognize in my life.
Okay, so, this is, this is, and.
And one of the things that thesecret taught was that thoughts
become things.
And okay, so what, what, what'sin your mind can become reality
(13:49):
.
Well, the way that that becamea reality for me was through
after my divorce.
I was dating, okay, and Istarted to notice a pattern in
my relationships, you know, withwomen.
So I would, you know, datedifferent women, but there was a
(14:11):
pattern that was common betweenthem.
Okay, so I started to thinkabout, because at first, after
being divorced, you know, you'rebitter, or at least I was, okay
, you're bitter, or at least Iwas.
At first I was bitter about itand I just figured it was
(14:32):
something that was wrong withwomen.
But then, after a while, I hadto wonder unless these women are
getting together and conspiring, these women that do not know
each other, never met each other, unless they're getting
together and conspiring to treatme a certain way, then the only
common denominator is me.
If I'm the common denominator,then I am choosing a certain
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type of woman because of who Iam.
So at that point that meant tome that there was something
inside me that was causing me tochoose a certain type of woman
that I was having theserelationships with.
So when the secret said,thoughts become things, another
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part was that these thoughts arebeing projected from within you
, based on your vibrationalessence.
That's what those womenrepresented, what it gave me the
language to say, okay, that wasmy vibrational essence is
showing up as these women.
They're showing me something.
So that frame that gave me awhole different frame to operate
(15:47):
from, then moving forward alittle bit more and I'm studying
the secret and I'm studyingmetaphysics, and the secret kind
of intimated that the Greekshad the secret.
Well, from books that I hadread many years ago one of them
(16:07):
was Stolen Legacy by IosifGilead the Greeks learned from
ancient Egypt.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
So when they?
Speaker 2 (16:16):
said the Greeks had the secret.
I was like, hmm, well, I knowthat they learned from Egypt and
they really didn't have aphilosophy until they came
through Egypt.
So it made me start to go backand study ancient Egypt and I
went to find things out aboutthe law of attraction.
(16:37):
Okay, discovering was not onlythe ideas about the law of
attraction came from Egypt, butI also found the foundation of
what most of what my Christianreligion was actually teaching
but had changed and distorted insome kind of way, but it was
(17:16):
also the foundation of what mostspiritual systems around the
world were teaching.
Okay so, but I found out theideas about the secret, and then
I found out the foundation ofmy religion that I grew up with,
that I had so many questionsabout, but nobody could ever
seem to answer.
Okay, yeah, about, but nobodycould ever seem to answer In
Egypt brought together boththose systems and then I could
actually ferret out what waschanged.
(17:38):
And then what was spirituality.
The conclusion that I came towas and this is where I teach
with Kometa physics is that thedifference between so there is a
difference between spiritualityand religion.
Religion in religion, the ideais that you, that the God that
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you know, is something that isexternal to you.
It is the idea of worshipingsomething external and trying to
get a relationship to it andhoping that external God will
validate you, love you, whateverit needs to be.
Okay, from a spiritualperspective, it is the idea that
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you are the essence of thecreator that is experiencing
life in human form.
So you are essentially a sparkof the creator experiencing
itself as a human.
Okay, and one of the ways thatI'd like to explain that is just
(18:52):
through an analogy tounderstand, and this is the
ancient Kemetic and Africanspiritual system.
So one of the questions I hadwas what did ancient Africans
believe before Christianity?
So the Kemetic system answeredthose questions for me.
But what their idea of God wasis and I'm just putting it in
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modern day language but theiridea was that if God is an ocean
, okay.
So from a Kemetic perspective,god is not a human being.
God is not like a human beingof.
God is not a human being.
God is not like a human being.
God is essentially a consciousforce that we all can interact
with equally.
So if God is an ocean, then weare essentially drops in the
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ocean, okay.
Okay Then, if we are drops inthe ocean, then that means the
ocean is in every drop.
So if that is the case, thenthe idea that christianity
taught us is that we were bornsinful, wicked and, you know,
destined for hell if we didn'taccept Jesus as our savior.
(20:03):
Okay, so that was a differentway of thinking than most of the
ancient systems taught.
That was, christianity changedsomething there?
Okay, but what I saw in thatwas that it also created a way
of thinking that ended up makingus create a pattern of
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self-loathing, self-doubt andreally to hate ourselves.
And what I saw was and how Isaw that was that in my
communities growing up, I grewup in poverty.
I knew a lot of communitieswhere people that looked like me
lived in poverty.
So why was that?
Because I knew that there ofcommunities where people that
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look like me lived in poverty.
Okay, so why was that?
Because I knew that there wasmoney in our community, I knew
that there was educated peoplein our community.
But why didn't people buildself-sustaining economically
self-sustaining communities?
From an African-Americanperspective and a lot of times
in the African diaspora aroundthe world, well, one of the
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things that the book, theautobiography of Malcolm X, one
of the lines that stuck out withme, that stayed with me for a
long time, was he said the twomen can go to Harvard and get a
degree.
One can be a white man and onecan be a black man.
The white man will go and starta business, then the black man
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will go and get a job from him.
Dr B, that just that stuck withme because it's like okay, well
, what's the difference?
Why?
Why is that?
Why didn't that black man thinkthat he could start a business
too?
And what it came down to me wasis that I felt like on Sundays
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that many of us ingested theidea that we were broken, that
we were born sinners and that wewere wicked, and that
undermines any level ofconfidence that you have in
yourself and your ability tobuild anything.
People who believe they arebroken cannot build.
But from a comedic perspectivefrom the ancient African
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perspective.
We are not broken, we're notborn sinners, we are born divine
, and because we are a divinespark, we have the ability to
create just like the creatordoes.
And even biblically it says weare made in the image of God,
but the image is not physical.
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Okay, we will.
A lot of us take that literal as, as as the image of God is
something that we, that we looklike.
God that's.
That's not what it's about,because the idea of god is in
everything, whether it's a rockor a person.
The idea of god is, is, is, uh,everything is imbued with this,
this, this essence, okay, so,so that's the foundation that I
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built Kemeticism from, and theway that I looked at it, too,
was that I wanted to reachpeople.
You know so.
So it is African spirituality,but it is for humanity.
That's one of the ways I lookat it.
But I knew that that, as far asreaching my people in my
community, there was no way thatI was going to be able to do
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that without going through theBible first, because people are
going to have to feel safe aboutwhat you know, because, I mean,
you're talking about anexistential crisis if you don't
believe a certain way, know thatyou, you, your eternal life is
in peril, you know yeah, yeahbut but what I did was I ended
(23:51):
up, uh, finding that that commonfoundation of spiritual
spirituality, and realized thata lot of the ways that we were
taught the bible uh, we weretaught an exoteric perspective
of the Bible, but it is actuallywritten in esoteric language,
so there's an esoteric or hiddenknowledge written underneath
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the stories.
We get locked in on the stories,but there is another layer
that's beneath the stories isactually what the real message
is.
So that's the foundation thatcomedicism is built on, and I
can stop there, but I can keepgoing, but that's essentially.
It is that we are gods andgoddesses in training and that
(24:38):
life is feedback.
So that's a foundationalprinciple that I've built and
that stuff and those principlesare basically ancient African
spirituality and that's wherethese ideas came from.
I'm updating them with anupdated language and processes
(25:00):
and tools that we use to buildfrom within processes and tools
that we use to build from within.
I'm sorry, Dr B, I can barely.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Dr B.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Hello, hear you saying something, but you're
fading in and out.
I'm sorry.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
I think we're back.
Can you hear me?
I can hear you Okay cool, We'lljust edit that part out.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
We're still on and we're going and I can hear you
perfectly well and I'm not surewhat's going on with our
internet here, that I don't knowif we have a storm or something
.
That's just kind of not likingus.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
But if you can hear me now yeah, I don't know if
it's on my end.
Are you okay hearing me?
Speaker 1 (28:48):
now though.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yeah, I can hear you now.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Okay.
So what are the questions thatthat?
Because it's so embedded intoour culture, it's so embedded
into the belief system of who weare.
I watched something like theSecret back in 2006.
I said these are some reallycool things, but how do I fit
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that in to my own belief system?
So it all makes sense and Iknow that's kind of what you
were doing as well.
So how did you, withoutthrowing out what you'd learned
and been part of you, stillbegin to accept maybe a new way
of thinking, because I can'timagine it was like you just
(29:32):
turn one off and turn the otheron.
There had to be some overlap.
Maybe kind of talk about that alittle bit.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Yeah, absolutely Absolutely yeah, because growing
up Christian we're taught acertain way, we're taught a
certain frame and way ofthinking.
And that's the way I look at itand I separate it from really
the idea of being a born sinnerto an idea of being born divine.
So those are two differentframes and two different
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perspectives.
So it's a different, twodifferent paradigms of thinking.
So it took, so I would say Iwas in.
Now they call it deconstruction,where you start to deconstruct
your old beliefs.
You know, through Christianitythat wasn't anywhere around.
You know, when I was goingthrough what I was going through
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, but I stayed in deconstructionmode for probably 20 years.
Okay, and what that means is isthat I had knowledge that I
couldn't go back to the oldbeliefs and the old beliefs that
I had as a Christian, but Ididn't have enough knowledge or
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anything else that I could moveforward with.
So I couldn't reconstruct.
Okay, until I found the Kemeticstuff.
So what that helped me do waswhere I was basically in a
mental limbo in a sense.
The Kemetic teachings helped meto understand the idea of the
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KRST, what the Christ is.
Okay, so the KRST, or Christ,existed 10,000 years before
Christianity was ever eventhought about.
Ok, and, and so I was able torecognize really the the
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foundational ideas, because theidea of the Christ is something
that is in most spiritualsystems around the world.
Ok, so, and in that sense,christianity became the outlier.
And what I, what I figured outwas is that and I just put it in
a simple way to grasp this ideais that what Christianity
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claimed was new was not true,and what was true was not new.
Okay, so that's how I had to.
That transition for me wasreally finding out what the
ancient, these ancient spiritualideas were, devoid of the dogma
(32:10):
.
So that's why I had to movefrom dogma to just more of a
position of I'm developing my,it's my internal divinity or my
internal, really justself-development is really what
it was.
I would say the ancientteachings were more about
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self-development and our innerjourney than trying to placate
something outside of ourselves.
I hope I answered your question.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
Oh yeah, absolutely, you did as I'm thinking through,
or I've had conversations withpeople and trying to understand
the creator or God.
How do you?
Because some people have said,no, there is no God, we are the
gods and other people say, well,we do have a creator, but we
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are kind of that relationshipbetween the creator and us.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
Maybe help me understand that a little bit
better yeah, and from a comedicperspective, we so growing up,
we were taught that god is thishuman-like individual.
So so the the idea that that,uh, and this is through the
greeks and the romans, theyactually humanized the idea of
god.
Okay, but the ancient, ancientAfricans' idea of God was they
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didn't humanize it, it wasanthropomorphized.
The difference is that theancient Africans didn't see God
as like a human.
What they did was they wantedus to understand how the
metaphysical world becamephysical.
So when they anthropomorphized,they took a natural aspect of
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us and said that this is whatthis function of the universe is
like.
Okay, so when they did that,they weren't looking at saying
that that God was a human.
They were trying to tell uswhat this particular function of
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the universe was.
And I guess one of the betterways that I can explain it is
really to take the story ofJesus and how.
Just take one of the miraclesof Jesus and put it into context
of of the comedic idea of it,how it relates to life, and then
the symbolic idea, okay, okay,so, um, and let's just start
(34:47):
with life.
Okay, and you tell me, if thishas ever happened to you, dr B,
that you have ever went throughsomething where you know you
were like in emotional turmoil,that you had some difficulties.
I mean, you're an entrepreneur,so I'm asking you this, but I
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know it's just rhetorical.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yes, absolutely rhetorical.
Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yes, absolutely so.
As entrepreneurs, we're goingto go through some difficult
times where we questioneverything, we're in fear, we're
feeling all of this stuff, soour emotions are all over the
place.
But then, at some point, youget through whatever the
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emotional turmoil was, thingssettle down and you go on about
living life and doing whatyou're supposed to do.
So you reconcile whatever youwere dealing with emotionally.
Okay.
So that is a natural function.
So you have been through that.
I'm 100% positive, because Idon't think we can get out of
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life without that happening.
So well.
That human experience issomething that everybody has
gone through since we had humanson the planet.
Okay, the ancients knew that aswell.
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So what they did is theycreated frameworks, and this is
what a lot of the ancientteachings is doing is they're
really giving us these simpleframeworks to tell us, to help
initiates understand.
This is what's going to happen,you know.
But when you went through yourdifficult time, did you ever
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have a moment where you went, oh, I get it.
Now I understand.
Okay, now this is what I needto do.
I'll proceed, okay, yeah, okay.
So that's something that a lotof us go through.
Well, so what I just explainedwas the symbolic representation
(37:05):
of the miracle of Jesus walkingon water.
So Jesus as ananthropomorphized symbol and I
don't mean to offend people, I'mjust taking it back to the
ancient teachings, the ancientAfrican teachings, where it came
from okay, but Jesus isbasically the moment of
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enlightenment, that aha momentAh, I get it and then it brings
enlightenment or awakening tothe person.
So the idea that first thewaters were turbulent and
symbolically, the turbulentwater can stand for emotions,
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that aha moment is when you riseabove your emotions and you're
no longer operating in fearanymore, you're operating in
okay, well, this is what I needto do to get things done and
this is what I need to do tocomplete the task or whatever it
is.
At that moment you're walkingon the water, you're walking
above, you're operating abovethe level of the turbulent
(38:15):
emotions.
They're not there anymore.
In that moment you becomepeaceful, you become at peace,
you become balanced, in thatmoment you become the Christ,
the K-R-S-T.
Okay, rst, okay.
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So that's how you would, how Iwould take a person from
understanding that, from adogmatic perspective, we were
supposed to believe in the ideaof the miracle and we're
supposed to, you know, worshipthe miracle, but in reality.
It was a framework to tell usjust things that we go through.
That's the way that I wouldcharacterize the idea of us
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being a God.
Is that we have the ability tocreate in our reality.
But the deal is that we are allin training in a sense, because
Earth is a school school andwe're learning of our ability to
create, and part of that islearning and going through the
difficulties of life to whereyou can calm the storms when
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they come.
But if you believe that yourpower is somehow outside of you,
a lot of times you don't calmthe storm, and I can tell you
that anybody that has evercalmed that storm recognized the
power within themselves.
Now they can attribute it towhoever and whatever, but at
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some point.
they have to recognize it asthem having the ability to take
care of whatever they need totake care of to solve the
problem Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
So, and I'm tracking with you, I think we're.
I guess I'm struggling a littlebit because when I think of the
symbol in this and I believe inwhat you're saying in this a
little bit, because when I thinkof the symbol and I believe in
what you're saying, symbolicallywe can get there and I believe
God created us to create.
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So are we saying that the storyof Jesus didn't happen or that,
like, creation is more likewhat evolution subscribes to, or
did the creator actually createit?
And we're I think you saidsomething about like we're
training what evolutionsubscribes to, or did the
creator actually create it?
And we're, like I think yousaid something about like we're,
we're, we're training to beable to be better creators, and
that kind of stuff.
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How did all this stuff happen?
You know that the Bible I to meyou just have to have faith and
believe.
If you're going to believe thatit happened that way because it
does, it doesn't make you know,it hardly makes sense in some
aspects of it.
If you don't, you know, believethat God just did it and seven
days later it was there, orJesus was here and he performed
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those miracles, you know,because we weren't there to
watch it or see it or there, butwe believe in miracles.
So did all these things happenand then?
Or is it just symbolic of stuff?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
these things happen and then, or they're just
symbolic of stuff.
So, from so, now we're gettinginto theology and and and I want
to be careful here because Idon't want to disrespect your
beliefs and your theology Okay,I, I I'm going to respect where
you are of it.
I can say that the knowledgethat I have and that I've
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researched is that the Bible has, and the stories are about
ancient frameworks.
It's not a historical document,but, again, that is my, that's
my understanding.
That's where you know, I'vestudied a lot of stuff and
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understand that I once believedthe theology as well, you know.
So it's just different as well,you know, so, it's just
different.
But what I noticed that'shappening, dr B, is that in the
last few years, a lot of peopleare starting to walk away from
the dogmatic beliefs.
(42:26):
Okay, people are starting to.
The pews are dwindling in a lotof instances, okay, but people
are not wanting to leave theidea that there is something
bigger than them, that there isa God, okay, that that there is
something that they areconnected to, this bigger than
them.
They, they want to get awayfrom the dogmatic systems, the
(42:49):
dogmatic beliefs.
What cometa physics allowspeople to do is to examine these
ideas beyond the dogma.
That's where I want to go,because we can get bogged down
in.
You believe this or you havefaith in this, but you have the
(43:11):
right and you don't have toexplain your faith to me or you
don't have to justify your faithto me.
Ok, then that's the way I lookat that.
Speaker 1 (43:22):
If that's where you, where you are with that, then I
respect that gotcha, okay, andthat makes sense and and I'm and
I'm tracking with you there.
Uh, you know it, just there's.
So there's so many questionsthat are in that.
Let me talk about your.
(43:43):
So you've done a really goodjob of explaining where you were
at and then where you have cometo.
How do you now, as ReginaldMartin and Dallas Hacks,
interact in life with otherfolks and still be able to be an
entrepreneur and have a careerand phase these ideas in?
(44:05):
And how have they helped you tomove forward in your life in
ways that you probably couldn'teven imagine before?
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Yeah, yeah, great question.
Great question Because for me,again, these beliefs is one that
I'm a creator of my reality.
So that foundational belief haspulled me through so much
because, dr B, I've had my, youknow, my ups and downs.
I've lost everything I hadthree times, you know, on the
(44:41):
journey of an entrepreneur.
So for me, you know, I couldhave easily, you know, given up
or, you know, said, hey, thisjust wasn't in the cards for me.
But I also said that life isfeedback.
So the way that I look at thatis, it comes from the ancient
(45:03):
idea of va'at and that life isreciprocal.
I don't know if you've heardthe concept of as within, so
without, as above, so below.
So that ancient concept isactually connected to the idea
of ma'at, that our life is aprojection from within us.
(45:24):
So if we want to make a change,if there's something in life
that we don't like, then we canchange our beliefs.
Life that we don't like, thenwe can change our beliefs, okay,
so.
So our beliefs are beingprojected as life.
That's what's being reflectedback to us.
So life is a mirror, okay, ofour, of our inner essence.
(45:44):
So for me, as an entrepreneur,when you know, I lost everything
.
Believe me, I was down, youknow.
You know there was days Iquestioned whether I wanted to
even be here anymore.
You know that's how deep it got, you know, because I had.
I consider myself a successfulperson, and most of us that are
(46:07):
successful, we do.
We, our success is based on ourwill and our hard work.
Well, the the second time Ilost everything.
I was working hard, I was doingeverything I thought I was
supposed to be doing and thingsstill didn't work out.
I was like I don't haveanything else left now.
(46:28):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:32):
Yeah, so.
So at that point, uh, you knowmy old beliefs would have said
is, am I cursed?
You know, uh, does God not wantme to have this?
You know, I I would have wentdown that road.
But I but my beliefs, from acomedic perspective is is that I
(46:56):
am the creator and what I haveto do is recognize what life is
showing me and then figure outwhat I need to fix within me, OK
, what I need to, what I need torecognize and that that is
being mirrored back.
There's something, some belief,that is making me go through
(47:19):
what I'm going through.
The other part of that isconnecting our emotional states
and using emotions as ourguidance system, and what I mean
(47:40):
by that is that, you know, we Ibelieve that we are souls
having a human experience, andthat's where I come from the
comedic perspective that oursouls are ground zero and what
our souls?
We still experience our soulswhile we're in the physical.
(48:01):
So connecting emotions to thatmeans that when you're in joy,
then you are alignedvibrationally with your soul,
and when you are not in joy orfeeling depressed, you're
misaligned.
Ok, so how does that work?
You know, in real life, when Igot depressed and down.
(48:21):
I was there for a little while,you know, maybe a day or two,
but then I recognized that Ijust need to find something that
brought me joy, that wouldbring me out of that OK, and it
wasn't even trying to bring meout of that Okay, and it wasn't
even trying to bring me out ofout of that.
It was just more just findingit was using my emotions as a
tool that would sort of, uh,bring some light into my life
(48:45):
rather than the darkness that Iwas in.
I hope I'm making sense.
I hope I'm I'm asking you,answering your questions.
If not, I hope I'm making sense.
Speaker 1 (48:55):
I hope I'm answering your questions.
If not, stop me.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh no, you absolutely are.
I mean, this is perfect for howyou interact with life today.
So this is you know.
Again, this is just part of thetools that I teach with Kometa
Physics.
It's not trying to thinkpositive, because that's only
temporary, okay.
It's a matter of being positive.
And when I say being positive,that means that you find the
silver lining in the cloud whenyou want to make a change and
(49:34):
you are in control of youremotions so you can find
something to give you thatlittle sliver of joy that can
start to bring you out.
And what it did was is itstarted to.
Once I found that little sliverof joy, then I forgot I was
depressed.
I was just enjoying myself, youknow, doing what I was doing.
Ok, so you know, I might havebeen depressed for two days but
(50:00):
all of a sudden, for an hour,doing what I was doing, I found
some joy.
Then an hour turned into twohours, ok, and then, once I
found that little sliver of joy,I said you know what?
And then, once I found thatlittle sliver of joy, I said you
know what Some other peoplemight want to know this and I
started doing something elsethat I could teach somebody that
brought me a little bit morejoy.
(50:30):
So it ended up just doingsomething, being who I was,
being who I am as a teacher, asan entrepreneur.
It ended up lighting me fromwithin and I could bring myself
out of that depressive state.
Okay, what nobody else comingwas there was.
I knew that that's what I hadto do for myself, you know.
So that's how these ideas endup interacting with life, and
(50:53):
I've taught people, I've trainedpeople, coached people, and
they have found that it hasworked as well.
So these are not justtheoretical kumbaya ideas that
I've come up with.
This is how life works.
This is a tool a lot of timestools and processes that I know
(51:14):
works.
Speaker 1 (51:18):
Wow, that's so cool.
So so how today?
I mean, we had about 10 minutesleft in our conversation.
So how are you helping others?
You know when I think aboutliving in purpose and living the
way that I was put on thisearth to do, or, or you know how
do I do that, and you wereevidently.
You're helping a lot of peopleunderstand themselves and what
(51:39):
they do.
How do you go about thatthrough a daily basis, like, are
people coming to you and saying, hey, I'm just lost, and or are
you just finding people?
Naturally, I mean, you say thatwe create our own.
You know our own future and ourown existence and who we are.
But how do you, how do you,interact with other folks and
help them find the same joy thatyou've been able to find?
Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, one of the ways they can do that is just they
can come through my Substack, mynewsletter, where I'm writing
and teaching all the time doingvideos doing different things.
Letter, where I'm writing andteaching all the time doing
videos doing different things.
But atreginaldmartinsubstackcom but
I'm constantly teaching, youknow, so people can sign up
(52:24):
there and I'm constantly doingarticles.
I also have courses in teachingthese ideas, so I can get a lot
more detail and spend a lotmore time with the courses.
But I've also developed abusiness system around the
comedic spirituality.
So the people who want to teachthis, I can actually certify
(52:47):
them and then they can get thesystem and get the ideas.
They can even get my contentthat I produce my courses,
courses and classes and they canuse it inside their coaching
and use it as a framework forthem.
So practitioners even there, Iknow that there are preachers
that are also that aredeconstructing and they want to
(53:11):
preach but they feel like theyhave to give up one or the other
, and they really don't, youknow.
So I literally put togetherwhat I call comedic sermons in a
box where I can teach them theancient principles, to where
they don't have to give up whatthey have been doing.
You know they can still, youknow, talk in front of the
(53:32):
congregation and teach ideasthat I feel like are liberating
and that will be uplifting, butstill understand the ideas of
Jesus and the Christ and talk topeople using that language but
having a more spiritual,non-dogmatic perspective from it
.
But my Substack account thatthat's where people can come
(53:55):
through and and then they canjust go off in different
directions there.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
So so what's next?
What's next for Reginald ashe's?
You know you're, you're doingsome blogging and you're
teaching people and you'recoaching and you're helping
folks and you're creating.
And the reason I'm asking that?
Because I know you know some ofour roles we've got to set and
you're helping folks and you'recreating it.
And the reason I'm asking that,because I know you know some of
our worlds.
We've got to set these goalsand we have to have these
timelines on these goals and wetry to, you know.
(54:22):
And but if you don't have theright mindset going into it,
basically mindset going into it,basically for you, and then I
guess, how do you?
Speaker 2 (54:43):
I'm sorry you were cutting in and out of there.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I heard how do you that comes next.
Speaker 2 (54:55):
So I heard you cutting in and out there again,
but I think I heard what do I doBasically?
What am I doing next?
Okay, and this is what I'll sayto that Dr B, is that I'm doing
everything that I want to do inmy life right now.
So for me, it is about learningto enjoy this moment, learning
(55:15):
and live in that moment andfinding the joy in every moment
that I can.
Okay, so it's living.
It's living how do I say?
I'm living life by puttingtogether moment after moment
after moment of joyousness.
That's the way I like to try tolook at it.
(55:36):
So every day, when I'm teachingand coaching and writing, my
goal is to live life joyfullyand being who I am.
That's it All day, every day,and living life on my terms.
That brings me the most joy,because I go to bed when I get
(56:00):
tired.
I wake up when I'm rested.
I haven't used an alarm clockin five years.
That's my joy.
You're talking about a journeyto freedom.
That's freedom to me is justbeing able to live life on your
terms and live it the way youwant to live it.
Speaker 1 (56:19):
Oh man, that is so neat For somebody who's just
searching, somebody who feelslike they're confused, like you
did, where you're back and forth.
What advice would you give them?
Or maybe like, what is thefirst thing that they should
start reading or connecting withto really begin to understand,
(56:40):
I guess, the confusion thatthey're having and being able to
get some clarity?
Speaker 2 (56:45):
Yeah, and that's a great question and I would
definitely say, you know,definitely come through to my
sub stack for one.
There is right now.
I don't see a lot of peoplethat are in the deconstruction
space.
There are.
The danger that I've seen isthat sometimes people are trying
(57:07):
to deconstruct others butthey're staying in that same
frame.
You know, I believe if you stayin that frame that I'm a born
sinner and I'm broken, thenyou're automatically stuck.
You're going to meet somethingthat's going to be stuck.
So when you're doing yourbusiness or trying to get
something started, but I do mybest to help people to
(57:30):
transition through that with thestuff that I do, what I do is
very unique, you know, in thisspace.
So nobody has created what I'vecreated and you know there's.
I'm trying to think of booksthat might help people, but I'm
and I was trying to think ofones that I've read that were
(57:53):
doing something that I'm doingand there's just not much out
there that I can think about.
But they definitely need tounderstand that they're not
broken.
Those kind of ideas.
Start to examine that stuff.
Speaker 1 (58:12):
Well, thank you, this has been such a great
conversation.
I hope we get to talk some moreat some point because I've so
thoroughly enjoyed it andlearned and grown and, oh my
gosh, you know, as we all try to, I guess, do better in life and
to make sure that we're havingthat joy you have, you know,
(58:32):
when I think about, like themovie, the Pursuit of Happiness,
and you know, are we allpursuing this happiness, and you
know, we turn over one stoneand go, oh, that wasn't it.
Then we turn over another stoneand go, oh, that wasn't it.
And it's so refreshing to seesomebody said, yeah, I turned
over some stones, but that's it,I've got it.
(58:52):
It didn't make sense, and nowthere's nothing I wouldn't
change about my life and that'sso precious.
And I hope, if you've listenedto this this is your first
podcast that you go back andyou'll listen to it and you'll
examine it and you will see whatI'm seeing and you will feel
what I'm feeling Just the joy inwhether it's in his heart or
(59:13):
whatever, if it's in his mind.
But there is joy in ReginaldMartin and I'm so enjoying
having this conversation withhim.
And so I would just say, ifthis is your first time and
you've enjoyed this, go aheadand hit the notifications.
We have so many of theseincredible cod podcasts with
(59:33):
successful men who are doingexactly what they love to do in
life and making it work.
And if you're not findingsomebody, uh, through all of
these that is helping you, uh,that's because you're not
looking, you're not searching,you've already decided that it
won't work.
And but here's what I know ifyou're listening to this, you're
searching and you're looking.
(59:53):
So please go to his website.
Please look at our Substack,not the website.
Go to Substack, make sure youlook in and study some of the
things he's telling you, becauseif we are pursuing joy, it's
one way to find it.
So again, Reginald, thank youfor being on.
I appreciate it.
Like I said, I can't wait tospend more time with you as we
(01:00:14):
continue to grow and find someconnections.
I know when I come to Dallas,I'm going to look you up and
we're going to go to dinner orsomething.
We're going to have some fun.
Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
Sounds good.
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
And eat some stuff, and that'll be great.
Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
So I'd love it Dr B.
Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Cool, we love it.
Well, you guys have a wonderfulrest of your day.
This is going to be the firstday of the rest of your life I
love to say that to peoplebecause it always is because you
know you have the ability tocreate your own destiny, and
Reginald just told you exactlywhere to start to be able to do
it All right.
(01:01:02):
So we'll talk to you guys later.
Have an amazing day.
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