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Dr. B hosts an inspiring conversation with Jason, a former NFL player turned mental performance coach. Discover how Jason's journey from sports to metaphysics and coaching can help you unlock your mind's full potential. 

What if the secret to unlocking your full potential lies not in pushing harder, but in slowing down to access the power already within you? Jason Medlock's journey from curious child to professional athlete to renowned mental performance coach reveals exactly this paradox.

Growing up attending Methodist church, Jason was always searching for something more – wondering where God truly was amid all the ritual. This curiosity eventually led him to discover metaphysics, the power of intention, and how energy attracts energy. Through years of dedicated practice in transcendental meditation, breathing techniques, and cognitive reframing, Jason developed a unique approach to mental performance that transforms lives.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn when Jason distinguishes between therapy and coaching. While therapy often focuses on identifying past trauma, coaching creates a relationship of trust and inspiration. As Jason explains, "Everybody loves their coach... it's a term of endearment." This distinction frames how he approaches clients from all walks of life – from prison inmates to professional athletes to corporate executives.

At the heart of Jason's methodology is breath control. The simple practice of measured breathing (inhaling for six seconds, holding for two, exhaling for eight) calms the nervous system and brings clarity to the mind. This foundation allows him to introduce more advanced concepts like his RPMs framework (React, Pace, Motivate) and color-coding emotional states to help clients recognize when they're slipping from optimal performance (green) into anxiety (yellow) or panic (red).

Perhaps most powerful is Jason's approach to overcoming shame through self-awareness. By guiding clients to connect with past successes and visualize future potential, he helps them recognize their true capabilities and step out of limiting beliefs. This process, coupled with his teachings on love as a frequency that raises vibration, creates profound transformation with surprisingly little time investment – just 20 minutes daily devoted to personal development.

Ready to rewire your brain and elevate your performance? Discover how Jason's mental performance techniques can help you trust your intuition, relax your mind, and discover your limitless potential. Visit jasonmedlock.com or thementalgameplan.com to learn more about his coaching programs and bestselling book "Empowered by Consciousness."

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And it was later in my life that I was introduced to
the secret.
I started to understand, dr B,the power of metaphysics I can
want something and repeat itover and over and over, like
energy attracts.
I teach the cognitive reframingtools that are immersed in
programs like emotional control,focus, performance, becoming

(00:22):
elite in the mind to develop achampion's mindset, all through
the background of hypnosis.
I was always intellectually incommand of my message.
When I had an opportunity I wasalways ready, so that helped me
succeed a lot.
But in order to succeed youmust fail, and I failed a lot.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
All right, welcome, welcome, welcome to another,
just amazing edition of theJourney Free podcast.
And I'm Dr B, I'm your host andjust oh man, every time I get
to do this, you know I'll begoing through my day, jason, and
I will.
You know, things will happen.
I kind of get stressed.
And then it comes to dopodcasts.
I'm like I don't know if I'mgoing to be able to get this
podcast.
I don't know if I'm going to beable to do it or get it done at

(01:19):
the time.
Everybody wants it to get in.
And then I start thinking aboutthe conversation that I'm
getting ready to have with youand that all the stress goes
away, because I just get excitedabout learning about somebody
else and learning what they didin their life and the things
that they do.
Today.
Jason and I were talking beforethe show and he talked about
love and he talked about thisvibration of love that I can't

(01:41):
wait to dive into.
And you know these things thatGod gives us when we are born,
that if we figure out how to useand let go and let God do what
he designed us to be able to do,we are going to be in such a
place that sometimes we feellike we can't get to, and so,

(02:02):
jason, I can't wait to talk toyou about that.
You know, journey to Freedom isabout helping men and it's
about you know I was talking tosomebody the other day and goes
well, and I don't know if I justkind of misspoke, because my
you know coaching program, allthe videos I put up, all the
things that I do, are abouthelping people become the person
that God designed them to be,to help them be in purpose, to

(02:25):
do what God put them on thisearth to do.
And you know, one of the thingswhen Journey to Freedom came
about, it was helping people getunstuck, you know, or see other
people who are successful, sothat then we can be successful
as well.
And so it just was crazy when Istarted thinking about that,

(02:45):
because he said well, I'm notstuck, so why would I want to be
on your podcast?
He said, well, it's not justabout it, it's those who are
doing well that are giving backto the community, who are still
trying to figure it out.
And you, obviously, you'redoing well if you're not stuck
and you're doing all the thingsyou want to do, and this happens
to be a high net worthindividual that you know.

(03:06):
I know he's made a couplemillion dollars just in the last
year and you know he's got ahundred properties and all this
kind of stuff.
And I'm like you're the personwho needs to be on my podcast to
be able to inspire others, notto, not so that I can help you
be unstuck.
You, I can help you be unstuck,you know.
So it was just that funnyconversation, so I wanted to
just make sure that you know Ibrought that up.

(03:27):
But, jason, thank you for beingon, thank you for taking your
time out today.
You know, I'm going to ask you,like I ask all my guests, to
tell your story, to tell exactlywhat it was that made you.
You Sometimes we get stuck intotalking about.
This is what I do, and we don'tever get to talk about who I am

(03:48):
and I think, when we think about, when I think about
relationships and I think about,like, why God put us on this
planet, I think he talked to, hethought more about the who than
what it is that we do.
When I read the Bible or I readcharacters from the past, it's
all of.
We learn about who they are,you know, and then we find out
more about what they do, butvery rarely do we just hear

(04:08):
about what they do.
I mean, you might hear, oh,matthew was a tax collector, but
then it tells all about Matthew, tells all about himself, you
know, and it just, it's amazingwhen we really start or able to
talk about who we are.
And so please tell your story.
Again, thank you for being on,and then we'll chop it up with
some of our pillars right afterthat.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Sure, dr B, and thank you for inviting me to Journey
to Freedom and for the gentlemanwho wondered why he needed to
come on your show.
Most successful people do very,very well, but the ultra
successful people have a coach.
But they'll never tell you that.
I just wanted to make thatpoint.

(04:49):
But there are levels and phasesof my life of who I was and
what then I became.
So I'm going to categorize thatin this was my job versus my
career.
You know, around nine years old, when I think about how I came

(05:14):
to be to what I'm doingcurrently.
I grew up in the Methodistchurch.
I was always fascinated withthe stars and fascinated with
the planets and I would be inchurch and these routines of
praying and standing up invacation and then sitting down,
and then the money trade comesthrough, and then you do that

(05:37):
and then right before the pastor, right before the choir sings,
you know maybe you'll stand upagain and get another prayer,
and then you sit down and thenthe pastor preach and then when
he gets ready to finish, youstand up again, and so this
routine.
But I always wondered young, Imean, I'm nine years old, eight

(05:59):
years old, like where is God?
Like we're here every Sunday.
I'm in Sunday school.
I know he's somewhere, but I'venever grasped that.
Where was he?
And my mom was like he'severywhere.
And so that fueled me thatcuriosity to try to understand
this feeling of this all-purpose, this almighty source, and that

(06:29):
fueled my genius and mycuriosity of wanting to know
about the planets and the stars.
And it was later in my lifethat I was introduced to the
secret Leanne Rimes and BobProctor and all these brilliant
people, and I'm looking at thesecret.
I was introduced by my sisterand then I started to understand

(06:51):
that to be the power ofmetaphysics.
I'm like, oh, so that I can, uh, want something and repeat it
over and over and over, likeenergy attracts.
So I started to practice doingthis.
I started to vision board andrepeat it over and over and over
like energy attracts.
So I started to practice doingthis.
I started to vision board, Istarted to do all these things

(07:12):
and it just fascinated me atsuch a level that it helped me
move into the career I'm inright now.
But let's talk about my jobs,all right.
Parallel to this, I was a.
I was a sports agent for anumber of years for 13 years
with the NFL PA, then in theCanadian Football League and NBA

(07:34):
PA, represented a number ofplayers Also played in the
Canadian Football League as aprofessional football player
played at Texas A&M University.
So I, university of Nevada, lasVegas athlete, then started a
construction firm that was amulti-million dollar company,
helped found a food company thatwas a multi-million dollar

(07:56):
company.
This business man, this youngguy making moves, doing this,
doing that, and then one dayCOVID-19 hit.
This doing that and then oneday COVID-19 hit.
I developed all theserelationships with ISDs,
independent school districts,contracts, the ultimate expert

(08:17):
at project management.
I'm also a project managementprofessional, pmp and all of a
sudden COVID-19 hit and Godshifted me away from the outside
world, the hustle, the bustle,the ego, the human ego that
drives the conscious mind and itdrives the evil in men.

(08:40):
It drives the division, the me,the I and I started to move away
from this corporate environmentand pick it up parallel
learning, metaphysics, learninghow to be within myself,
learning how to, when I startedto understand that the
subconscious mind is a powerfulthing.

(09:13):
Reorganizing the brain they callit neuroplasticity is a
powerful thing.
Creating new neural pathways inthe brain they call it a
powerful thing, and in mycoaching program I'm also a
mental performance coach.
I'm double certified at it andin my coaching program I teach

(09:34):
these type tools, the cognitivereframing tools that are
immersed in programs likeemotional control, focus,
performance, becoming elite inthe mind to develop a champion's
mindset, all through thebackground of hypnosis.

(09:56):
I'm a certified hypnotherapist.
I'm a level two quantum healinghypnotherapist.
These different modalitiesremote viewing, um, also working
with uh, transcendentalmeditating all these different
things became my career once godasked me to move away from this

(10:18):
job, these things that definedme, and then move more towards
just being so.
That's how I started, that'swhat I matriculated to, and now,
here I am today, working in anumber of different spaces, a
number of different modalities.
I've written a bestselling bookEmpowered by Consciousness.

(10:42):
Also, I've written anotherthree e-books two on recidivism
and one is the Mental Game Plan,a comprehensive guide for
athletes and coaches to learnand understand mental
performance tools.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Wow, man, where do I even start?
This is so good.
I would love to kind of maybewe'll just start with identity,
because you talked about theidentity of a nine-year-old
who's just going.
Who am I?
I can't find God anywherebecause I don't see him and we
talk about him and we're doingall this stuff.
Then you move into probably theidentity of a professional

(11:25):
athlete and what that brings,and now you move to the identity
of a business person and thenyou switch all that, maybe kind
of talk about those roles of howidentity of who you believed
you were played in your abilityto be successful, because one of
the commonalities or the commondenominators that I see in your
story is there's success aftersuccess after success, and it

(11:50):
doesn't matter what you touch,you figure out a way to be
successful at it.
So what is that identity?
Or how was that identitydeveloped that allowed you to do
that?

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Well, the identity was developed by being
relentless.
Well, the identity wasdeveloped by being relentless,
relentlessly motivated andhaving a level of mindset that
was instilled in me by a coachand that's why therapy versus
coaching, there's a difference.
There's nothing wrong withtherapists Absolutely nothing,

(12:20):
nothing.
But there's a differentconnotation when you have been
trained by a coach moreendearing, more you relate to it
, better You're proud of mycoach.
Not a lot of people talk aboutmy therapist helped me.
It's just not cool.

(12:40):
So I was coached in thisenvironment of work relentless,
be the best, be a good teammate.
That translated into myprofessional career and I
outworked people, dr B, I workpeople, I network people.
I then develop this charm, thisfrequency about me, that, the

(13:03):
energy, the frequency of myconversation, and I smiled a lot
and people liked me.
But I was well studied.
I was always intellectually incommand of my message.
When I had the opportunity, Iwas always ready.
So that helped me succeed a lot.

(13:25):
But in order to succeed, youmust fail, and I failed a lot.
I failed more.
Once God told me to step away,I started to fail a lot.
You know, I was being testedwith this new business of
self-help, this newunderstanding of spirituality

(13:47):
and how does this play intomonetizing without understanding
that it's for the greater goodof all?
So this identity wasfluctuating, but I was being
still.
I was allowing myself to justbe within myself, reaching

(14:08):
levels of peace and quietness soI can hear God's voice.
And I got to a point where myintuitiveness was so strong, dr
B, that I could see thesynchronicities that were moving
in my life and I knew whichdirection to move in, and that
allowed me to continue tounderstand what my identity was

(14:31):
and how to be within myself.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Hey, it's Dr B and let me ask you something just
here real quick.
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Are you serious about makingsome changes this year that will
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Or maybe you're uploadingvideos, but you're not sure why
or how it's even going to help.
You know, I've seen a lot ofpeople that are making a whole
bunch of cold calls to the wrongpeople and no one's answering.

(14:58):
No one wants to talk to you.
It might just be that you'rejust doing what you've been
doing and crossing your fingers,hoping it finally works this
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(15:18):
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(15:39):
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Thank you for watching thesepodcasts.
Now let's get back to theconversation.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
And not identify as I'm this and I'm that and I'm
this.
The conscious mind became Imean the conscious mind, which
is the human ego became less andless and less in control of my
life.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
There's a few things I just want to dive deep into
that you just said because I'mwriting like crazy notes right
now because you just hit me inall kinds of different levels
you brought up a coach versus atherapist.
And I started thinking throughthat because I've been coaching
track now for 38 years and soI've had Olympians, I've had

(16:30):
state champions in high schooland I'm at the high school now
that I'm kind of finishing up at, and one of the things that I
think about is when you're acoach, you're helping the person
learn to be the best that theycan be, and when you're a
therapist and you can correct meif I'm wrong they've already
identified something that mightbe a deficiency and we're trying

(16:53):
to bring up to take thedeficiency away.
But I don't know if therapistsare actually saying we're going
to, through these sessions,you're going to become the best
you could possibly be.
Am I right in that?

Speaker 1 (17:13):
be.
Am I right in that?
And that's the assessment.
Right now, I coach cohorts,one-month cohorts, with the
Harris County Supervision andCorrectional Department and that
is working in conjunction withthe Gateway Foundation
Correctional Department, and thefirst thing I tell the clients
that's how we refer to them thatare in there in the
correctional department is thatwhen we talk, we're talking the

(17:34):
first day about what to expectin this mental performance class
.
It's an elite mindset course.
The understanding is that I'mnot a therapist, I'm a coach and
it's like, okay, okay, coachMatlock, but the excitement when
the word coach comes in givesthis connotation of leader.

(17:56):
He's going to help me, I'mgoing to learn something, I'm
going to be trained to dosomething with love and with
this unwavering care about you.
Therapy, as you mentioned let'sfind the hurt.
We've identified the trauma,can we bring it forth?

(18:18):
And now let's deal with it.
Now, how do you feel when I askyou to do this?
So, when you feel this way,just rely on what I've told you.
Now, no disrespect, becausetherapy is good, but it's the

(18:39):
cognitive understanding and howthey parse the meanings of what
they're proud of, to say thatthey're associated with, to say
that they're associated with,and that's why I've come up with
this pitch.
When I go into the city ofDallas and I try to pitch them
on helping firefighters dealwith this, the trauma and the

(19:01):
stress of the day to day, and Iseparate.
They're already getting mentalhealth services, I'm like, but
no, I'm a coach.
And let's tell you why this iswhat I do.
I instill this level ofconfidence.
I instill tools that this willhelp you.
I'm with you on this journeyand I'm your old coach,

(19:22):
everybody that I know that hirescoaches and put coaches in
their life.
It's a term of endearment.
It's a person who they trustand they're proud of.
30 years later, man my coachused to man my coach oh shoot, I
work with these coach and youlove your coach.
From a cognitive perspective,it turns differently with the

(19:45):
mindset of most people.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
And I just keep coming back to the like.
Somehow with a therapist,you're broken and you need to be
fixed.
They're coming in to fix youright.
And with the coach, no, I'm notbroken.
I need help in this areabecause I want to excel.
You're going to help me.
You know, I think about like Ican teach like an athlete how to

(20:08):
hurdle, or I can teach a personhow to high jump, or you know,
run around and the mechanics ofwhat running, good running form,
looks like.
But 90 percent of my job whenI'm coaching is this.
It's the stuff that we talkabout.
It's not the actual mechanicsof what we're doing, especially
when you get to the elite level,when you know, if I'm working

(20:30):
with an Olympic athlete, theyalready know how to run, they
already know how to jump, theyalready know how to hurdle,
right, dr B think about the wayyou coach your track guys.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Dr B, he always has a story to tell us.
He ties it in to the waythey're supposed.
When I was doing it, let metell you this story.
This is why I want you to dothis.
Coaches tell stories.
Coaches give you inspiration.
Coaches then they maneuver.
And now here's the technique Iwant you to use, here's the way

(21:04):
I want you to do these hurdles.
I remember when, back in theday, success ran a nine, three,
eight, and he did this and hedid that, but he listened.
And so you have the samecharacteristic Coaches paint the
picture of success.
Yeah, therapists, we try tofigure out where the issue is
and the trauma.
Three years old, seven years,and here's what's happening.

(21:26):
This is what you're holding onto and we must let that go.
It's more of a find and helpyou.
Coaching is more endearing.
It's more story driven and it'smore now perform for me, make
your, make your coach proud ofyou.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
Oh my gosh, this I love.
I love the.
How we're mixing that upbecause I don't want to tell
people, hey, if you're seeing atherapist, I'm not saying, don't
stop your therapy, because youmay be a person who's not ready
for the coach that's ready toshow up.
Right, when the student isready, the teacher will appear.
Or when the student you knowthe athlete is ready or the

(22:03):
person needs to be coached, thecoach can appear.
The coach can appear and theremight be some things that you
got to go through in your lifeand you, the therapist, might be
able to help you to get to thatpoint where now the coach can
come in and then really workwith you to hit the because it
is.
It's that term, because whenyou have that relationship with
a coach, it is just, it's atotally different relationship.

(22:25):
It is, it is.
You know, yeah, it's.
You know, as, as you and I bothknow, and probably most of you
guys do too, if you've ever beenin that situation where you've
had some successful businesses,you're doing stuff.
Now you're really thinking aboutthe mental side of how we
operate.
What are some of the thingsthat you found out that our

(23:00):
minds are capable of doing?
Because they say, we only use apercentage of our minds to do
whatever we do.
But it's this most powerfultool that no other animal has,
right?
A cat is a cat, a horse is ahorse, a dog's a dog.
They're going to do exactlywhat they were put on this earth
to do, but the human mind, ohmy gosh, what are some of the

(23:23):
things that allowed you?
Because you're way further like.
You started here and now you'relike up here.
I want you to jump back here alittle bit and say, okay, this
is some of the things that Ilearned right off the bat that
allowed me to move forward.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I learned first to calm the mind using
transcendental meditation, usingquietness as the tool, and then
a subset of that wascontrolling the breath.
Six to eight.
Inhale for six, hold for two,exhale for eight.
Inhale for six, not fast, but aslow inhale Control, hold for

(24:01):
two, exhale for eight, slowly,don't, just you'll run out of
breath.
Controlling the breath givesyou more clarity and it builds
focus.
So, getting the breath workdown and understanding how to
use the breath, in conjunctionwith quietening the mind,

(24:25):
quietening your perspective,moving into Transcendental
Meditation, 20 minutes per day,starting off doing five minutes,
doing guided meditation offYouTube, just get into the
rhythm of controlling the body,the temple and moving yourself
deeper and deeper and deeper tothe, into the state of

(24:48):
transcendence.
And once you are at that levelof peace in the breath, you're
able to control the breath andyou start to see that the
subconscious mind and theability, the abilities that it
has.
You're now able to sense thislevel of control.
And then now you move to Dr JoeDispenza, rewind the Brain.

(25:09):
You move to Dr Bruce Lipton onhow, the wonders of the brain
and what the brain can do, andyou understand that sound
frequencies, megahertz, canchange the mood of the body, the
mood of the individual.
And then you say, well, wait aminute, neuroplasticity that

(25:33):
fancy term for reorganizing thebrain.
You start to understand thatyou can rewire the brain by
repetition, by creating newhabits, by cognitive reframing
from a moment of despair.
And then you have these toolsyou introduce to help people

(25:55):
reframe from negative self-talkto positive self-talk, and have
you practice, and if youpractice over and over, you've
created new ways of thinking,you've created new neural
pathways.
But then, prior to that, as wewere talking about, all this
begins with moving withinyourself and slowing down and

(26:18):
realizing the intelligence ofthe breath, the power and the
control of the breath, so thatyou can have this understanding
of how to manipulate the brain.
Now, in hypnosis, I use thetechnique, as most
hypnotherapists, of shifting youto different brainwave states,

(26:39):
into the theta brainwave state,and when I'm using a different
type of hypnosis, which isquantum healing hypnosis quantum
healing hypnosis I'm moving youto the somnambulistic state,
which is a deeper state of theta.
In this state you're almostasleep, but your conscience, the

(27:00):
mind, is still awake, and so Ican move you to different places
.
I can try to help relieve thisstress, relieve this trauma,
relieve this anger about havingyou in such a deep brainwave
state.
And, dr B, I can makesuggestions to you.
We can suggest that you do thisdifferently.

(27:20):
And you said that you wanted tohave a better relationship with
your wife.
Why do you continue to hit her?
We're now moving that away fromyou so that you will now begin
to respect your wife.
This is all at the subconscious, almost a sleep state, but I'm

(27:43):
making these suggestions so weknow just from these snippets of
things that I'm talking aboutthere are a lot of different
ways that we can affect the mind.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Yeah, you use the word transcendence.
Yes, help me understand, I knowthe definition right, but what
does that truly mean?
Like when you say you hit thistranscendent state.
Help me with that.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Transcendental meditation TM is the most
popular form of meditation thatyou can reach.
So when you are starting off,I'm going to give you the
analogy of ocean water.
When people start off, you heareverything in the room.
You're trying to be quiet.

(28:33):
Once you've done it for aboutfour, five, six minutes, you
move down and you can hear thebubbles.
You can still hear the water.
You can't hear the top part,but you can.
Once you continue to transcend.
That means to lower your stateof awareness and move deeper

(28:54):
within yourself.
And once you continue totranscend deeper into this state
of peace and relaxation, thenyou may hear the marine noise
and the deeper level oftranscendence that you get to.
It's total peace, Dr B, it'stotal quiet, and at that level

(29:19):
you can hear, you can becomeclear audience source delivering
the messages quietening themind, quietening the body, the
avatar that encases this being,this spiritual power that's made
of light, sound and love.

(29:40):
You can receive messages thatcan help you move yourself into
a different space in the lifethat you're living at the
current time.
So transcendence is simplymoving yourself into this level
of peace, this level of quiet,so that you can make decisions
based on what you hear, fromwhoever, Buddha, God, source,

(30:06):
whatever you want to call theperson that's your higher being
in your life, you can hear fromthat perspective, wow when you
talk a lot and several timesabout breathing and, in
everything we do, the amount ofoxygen that we bring into our
cells, that we fill everythingin and I don't.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
sometimes I don't know if that's part of the
teaching.
I mean, obviously, as a trackcoach or an athletic coach,
you're teaching breathingtechniques to fuel the body so
it works properly.
Can you give us some examplesof how to begin the breathing
process when you're feeding thisincredible amount of oxygen to
your brain so that it now hasthe ability to bring you down

(30:51):
into the transcendence of peace?
What are some ways to do that?
I mean, is you know?
Yeah, I guess?
Just maybe show us or tell us.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
As a mental performance coach.
The breathing techniques I'mteaching are to calm you down,
so that you can have moreclarity, so that you can make
better decisions, so that youcan see the emotion coming in
the game at the block, in thatyour heart starts to race.

(31:24):
We can do the five five, we cando the box technique and you're
right there at the blocks andyou close your eyes and inhale,
go up, exhale, inhale, exhale.
That's the box breathingtechnique.
Okay, so that the pre-trialjitters slowly dissipate.

(31:47):
The longer you control theinhale or the exhale.
It quietens the nervous systemin the body, it calms the
nervousness and the claritybegins to come into focus in the
body.
I use breathwork techniques forathletes in my coaching program

(32:09):
to only calm the body, to calmthe mind, so that you can
perform at performance.
As far as moving oxygen intothe brain and making sure we
have a good blood supply, that'snot the way I use it.
That's not my professional,that's not why I do it.
It that's not my professional,that's not why I do it.

(32:32):
I do it for calmness and I doit.
I teach it in a number ofdifferent programs I have.
The breath is so important,even when we're dealing with
emotional control, even whenyou're too hyped.
That's not good.
To be too hyped and too overlyexcited, it causes mistakes, it

(32:55):
creates burnout and itintroduces fatigue.
We have to always be evenkeeled.
We have to always have thissense of control of our breath
while we're competing.
That's why I have the frameworkthat I've created, this
preparatory framework calledRPMs, and RPMs help you

(33:17):
understand how to react.
You know how am I reacting,how's my body acting, how am I
moving?
You know how am I poised.
Am I slumped over or am Ishoulders up?
How am I reacting?
How's my breath?
How's my energy?
Am I breathing fast or slow?

(33:37):
Am I breathing slow or deep?
Am I breathing heavy?
How am I pacing myself?
These are things that you'reasking yourself as you're trying
to reframe, cognitive reframefrom the action that's happening
at that moment.
And what motivates me?

(33:58):
That's the M.
What motivates me to succeed.
Why am I at the block right nowabout the race?
What happened right before Isucceeded?
My mom understands I'm about towin this race and Dr B he's
been working with me all week.
I got this.
I'm at the starting line.
I got this.

(34:18):
Dr B's been working with me.
Something happens right beforeyou succeed, what motivates you?
So I intertwine the RPMs and thecognitive reframing tools that
I'm teaching them as a emotionalregulator, as a wristband, as a
button they can press.

(34:39):
That helps them recall.
Only when they're feeling thispressure, this pressure they're
feeling themselves moving intothe yellow, moving into the red.
Stay out of the red, becauseperception helps you determine

(35:01):
how you view things.
You're at the block.
If you see red, break the glassand go get help.
Anxiety, trauma, nervousnessthat's red.
That's the way we see.
We have to move away from that.
We have to stay yellow or green.
Yellow is, I don't know, butI'm getting ready to run Green,
feel good, I can't wait to go toeven greater Feel good first.

(35:26):
The amygdala in the back of thebrain regulates our perception,
so I teach my guys how to knowwhen they're shifting from green
to yellow, yellow to green.
Because you shift in football.
You get knocked in your ass ina football game.
You're going to go yellow.
I never want my clients to bein the red.
I never want my clients to bein the red.

(35:47):
Even when I'm coachingexecutives, even when I'm
working with the clients thatare in correctional facilities,
I teach them the mentalmechanics model which was taught
to me by Dr Dr Hanson.
He's a world renowned sportspsychologist, work with all the
top baseball players in theworld and he taught me the

(36:07):
mental mechanics model and howperception shifts from red to
green to yellow, how to moveyourself and keep yourself green
, and we call green feel goodfirst.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
And I can see this.
I'm thinking of two scenarioswhere you might jump into red,
but if you've been practicingthese techniques, you can get to
green pretty fast.
You know, let's say you'rewalking down the street and a
snake jumps in the middle of theroad.
Boom, you're in red for acouple seconds, or eye yellow in

(36:43):
a couple of seconds.
Because if you haven't dealtwith that situation, that's
immediate fear.
Your body's taking over.
It's saying you know not tofight or flight.
It's flight, we're going to getout of here.
We're going to do the situation.
Unless you've done it a hundredtimes and you know how to
manipulate the snake, the otherone is okay.
So now I'm walking down thestreet or I'm at my house and an

(37:04):
earthquake happens.
Now I have to.
If I have these, I got to gookay.
Now how do I manipulate?
Making sure that everything isokay, that the safety for my
family, that the things that Ineed to be doing now?
Your brain has to be able tocalm down, jump into that yellow
or that green, and now you havethe ability to be that leader

(37:29):
in the situation that can makeit better how do you recognize
what state you're in unless wecoach them?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
dr b, that's why guys like us.
It's so important.
Mental performance, uh,coaching, um coaching at any
level.
They have so many names for it.
I'm a mindset coach, I'm alifestyle coach, whatever it is
you're coaching, but we have toteach our young men and our
young women to recognize thesethings Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
I start out with fear .
True fear is a real and presentdanger right now.
Everything else is anxiety Ifyou're afraid of public speaking
, there is not a real andpresent danger right now.
Everything else is anxiety Ifyou're afraid of public speaking
.
There is not a real and presentdanger happening right now.
It might be that people don'tlike you or people are going to
make fun of you, but that's notin danger.
That's just the anxiety ofworried about what somebody else

(38:24):
thinks about you, not worriedabout if it's a true fear, and
if you can get there now, we canwork on things.
If you can realize that, oh man, my life isn't over if I talk
and they laugh at me, or if Italk, but most likely they won't
, because I'm thinking what youknow, I'm thinking they're
really thinking about me.
In most cases, they're worriedabout themselves at the same

(38:45):
time.
So, but yeah, without workingon these things and being able
to recognize those states, now Ido want to ask you about two
different states that I thinkare I don't know.
They're almost polar opposites,and I want you to help us
understand the power of each ofthem.
One of them is shame, and Ithink shame is like the worst

(39:08):
emotion.
Of all the emotions that areout there, it's how we feel so
bad about ourselves because ofwhatever has happened.
The other one is love, where wehave the opportunity and you
kind of began to talk to meabout love earlier today.
Can you kind of just say alittle bit, maybe less, about
the shame, and how do we movepast that and not feel shame

(39:30):
about things?
Because I'm imagining, withyour clients that are at the
prison I don't want to call theminmates, I want to call them
clients that there's a lot ofshame in how they perceive
themselves.
And then you come in there withthis love attitude oh my gosh,
talk about it.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
I'm going to hit real quickly on shame and I'm going
to give you a remedy for it.
All right, shame is the energyof this, something that you're
embarrassed about.
You are allowing that energy tohave a place in your life, and
let's just say you pray about itand you bring it to the altar
and you've gotten rid of it, andthen it comes back.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Hello, this is Dr B and I want to ask you one simple
question what if you died,having never become you Now?
I don't mean the version of youthat worked the job, raised the
kids or chased security.
I mean the person that actuallydesigned you to be the real you
, because there's a version ofyour life that's already been
written and it's full of peace,it's full of boldness, it's full
of purpose and, of course, it'sfull of power.

(40:35):
But most people, many people,they miss it.
They live distracted, doubting,disconnected and deep down,
they wonder is this really allthere is?
But not you, and not today.
That's why we created theBecoming the Person universe.
It's a living, breathingcommunity of people saying I
want to be who God called me tobe, not someday, but right now.

(40:56):
So inside, we'll walk youthrough three levels of
transformation.
Level one is all about identity, where you finally see yourself
clearly and know exactly whoyou are and who you need to
become.
Level two is about mastery,where we develop the disciplines
to grow.
And then, finally, level threeis legacy, where your life
begins to matter beyond you.

(41:17):
And hear me, I want you to hearme clear here this is not a
place to passively belong.
This is a place to grow, leadand thrive.
We even have ways for you toshare in the revenue as we grow.
Because we believe in buildinglegacy together.
And I want you to know, thefounders and I are praying for
you.
We have been praying for me.

(41:38):
You have been on our hearts.
Yes, you have been on ourhearts.
You're not watching this byaccident, and I want to
personally invite you to thenext info meeting, where we will
go over all this community hasto offer.
All you do is just click thelink before you know what to do.
But now it's your turn.
I want to ask you, to askyourself what if this is the

(41:59):
moment everything changes?
What if this is the reasonyou've been searching?
What if all God has beenwaiting for is for you to say
yes, there's a seat for you here, whether you're rediscovering
yourself or finally ready toleave a legacy and are ready to

(42:19):
contribute.
Either way, this is theBecoming, the Person universe,
and once you're in, your lifewill never be the same.
So I can't wait to meet you.
I can't wait to spend time withyou.
I can't wait to see you on theother side.
So let's go live in thatpurpose and let's do it together

(42:40):
.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Once you're reminded of that situation, because it
has a foothold in your life,because it feels like this
energy, this negative energy ofshame, feels like it belongs and
I got that concept from my goodfriend, beatty Carmichael and
that you have to totally giveall these energies of eating too

(43:05):
much, the bad energy of cursing, the energy of shame cannot
take residence in your bodybecause it feels like it has a
right to be there.
You have to totally denounce itand continue to repent and move
away from all the things thatcould be giving it this power.
Now, the way I deal with shameis teaching my clients the power

(43:30):
of self-awareness,understanding your past, present
and future.
Well, jason, what does thatmean?
That means that when I move youthrough a visualization journey
of that moment of greatnessthat you had in the past, you're
going to be able to see thepower of self-awareness.
And I ask you to look at you,find the moment of success and

(43:54):
then, while you're there,observe what you were doing that
made you so doggone great atthat moment, and ask yourself
how are you reacting, how areyou pacing yourself and what
motivated you at that moment?
You were so freaking successful.
And then I move you to thefuture and I have you to look at

(44:15):
you being 10 times better thanthis person in the past.
And you're right there lookingat this person, dr B, and I'm
asking you wow, you're sosuccessful.
Now, see yourself doing thesewonderful things of whatever it
is you've chosen to view.
This is you in the future.
This is you've chosen to view.
This is you in the future.
This is you in the present.

(44:38):
How are you reacting?
How?

Speaker 2 (44:42):
are you pacing yourself?

Speaker 1 (44:42):
And observe closely what is motivating you to
succeed and as we move theseparadigms into the present day
and you find yourself being fullof shame again, doctor, be the
power of being aware of who youare after taking you through

(45:03):
these powerful exercises tounderstand this is who I was in
the past.
I I know a moment where I wasgreat.
Here's who I know I'm going tobe in the future.
In the present day it's not me.
I found greatness in the past.
I know greatness what it lookslike in the future.
So I'm reacting differently.
I'm breathing like a champion.

(45:23):
I understand my bread and Iknow what motivates me because
I've seen it in differentaspects of who I am.
So there's no room for shame ifyou understand the power of
self-awareness.
Wow.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
And what I'm hearing you is talking about is the
power of the questions that weask ourselves, and asking
ourselves the right questionsand not asking ourselves
questions that will lead us downthis other path.
Right, I mean, do you have likesets of questions that, or do
you just just the way that youknow?

Speaker 1 (45:59):
that they call it smart coaching.
Smart questions, smart coachingquestions.
What made you feel that way?
Well, who told you?
Who told you that you had shame?
Do you take shame with you onthe football field, on the track
?
Tell me what shame looks like.
There are questions you can askthat are, quote unquote smart
questions.
And I do have questions.

(46:21):
What would you like to havehappen?
That's one of the bestquestions.
What would you like to havehappen?
Yeah, when you're dealing withthis situation.
So what would you like to havehappen when you're dealing with
this situation?
So what would you like to havehappen?
I want it to go away.
So, if you could make it goaway, how would that look?
Just stop thinking about it.

(46:43):
So you told me in our lastsession that you saw yourself
being great and you remember thepast moment where you were
awesome.
You are totally aware of whoyou are.
How does that tie in to whatyou want to have happen?
Yeah, I need to start thinkingof myself as being great coach.

(47:08):
I need to stop thinking aboutand a person who lives in the
past cannot create their futureIf you continue to move in that
direction and not cognitiverefrain every time, john, when
you start to think about thismoment where you feel like you

(47:30):
are dealing with this emotion.
I need for you to reframe fromthat and know that you've seen
greatness and you've alsoexperienced it.
But, john, you have to choose.
Choose to feel good first.
Choose to be green Now.

(47:52):
If you wanna to be yellow orred when you see this emotion,
we need to stay green.
These are the tools I'mteaching you, but you have to
make a decision.
That's how I would deal withthat.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Oh my gosh, it's so good and I'm thinking through
that.
Because I'm thinking of that,because I'm thinking of the
better I became as a coach, isbecause the better questions I
was able to ask, that allowedthem to ask the questions of
themselves.
And I know it seems like that'sa lot of questions, but when I
think of the, say, I have a highjumper and I'm at and he's

(48:30):
doing his thing, Now I could runover there and show him the
technique.
I could run over there and youknow, kind of draw it out and
all that kind of stuff, or I cansay, how did that feel?
What were you thinking when youwere doing this?
How, what, what?
That going through your mindright now?
Sit down, let's replay that inyour mind.
What are you seeing right now?
So now I'm asking questionsthat he can use when he's

(48:54):
getting ready to jump in acompetition, when I'm not
standing right next to him toask him all those questions,
what he's going through.
And so I see that as thesequestions that we're asking, if
we can get our clients or we canget the individual or ourselves
to ask those questions ofourselves, to calm down, to take

(49:15):
ourselves out of the emotionalside of that moment to do the
meditation that you're talkingabout, and then moving to that,
whether it's before day, beforenight, before talk to me I see
you smiling.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
See, dr B, it's the combination of the entire body
of work that I spent so manyyears developing and then now
moving all of this into a mentalperformance program where I can
use recognizable tools thatpeople don't call woo-woo.
I can use these tools now toaffect the mind and we can use

(49:53):
pieces of the InternationalFederation of Coaching.
We can use pieces of thesecoaching scripts to now ask
smart questions.
I've tailored all my stuff andmoved away from the traditional,
but it's the tool bag, dr B.

(50:13):
My bag of tricks is broad.
I have several different ways Ican affect you while coaching
you, while coaching the group,while while transforming myself
to coach girls soccer, to comeback now to coach a executive
who's running a solar energycompany.

(50:35):
Then to come back and now teacha group of clients that are in
a supervision and correctionfacility, and I shift the
training only in the bag oftools, the way I want to affect
the mind.
I do not change my core program.
Yeah, I don't have to becauseit's universal.

(50:57):
Yeah, oh my gosh, talk aboutlove, because I know it's
something you want to, that youlove talking about, that you
Empowered by consciousness, okay, and this book helps you
understand the conscious mind,helps you understand hypnosis,

(51:18):
helps you understand how to useyour conscience to uh, move it
to different places to findthings that are unknown to you,
that can help you in thisparticular lifetime.
Talks about astral projection.
Talks about remote viewing.
Talks about the subconsciousmind in general.
Talks about the breath.
I give a number of breath worktechniques.

(51:39):
Now, how does that infuse withlove?
Love, when you move it to thecenter of your heart and you
embody it just from within,helps you raise your vibration,
helps you raise your frequencyto match anything that you want
to do.
If you want to be great intennis, then as long as you
infuse this love frequencywithin you.

(52:02):
How do you infuse the lovefrequency within you?
Spending more time withyourself, training, meditating,
whatever that looks like for you, quiet time, so you can start
to realize how to separate thematrix that we're living in,
separate the noise and the crudand the evilness and the racism

(52:27):
and all the things that go on inthis world, from the quiet time
that you're experiencing withyour God, that peace, that
tranquility, that separationfrom the ego, and it's just,
you're just being at that moment, and this permeates frequency

(52:47):
of love within you.
And once you practice andpractice and practice and
continue to move yourself inthis type of way, then this love
moves through your body.
Everybody around you can telland I'm not trying to tell you
what to say, drb, but you canfeel this, possibly from me this

(53:11):
level of peace, this level oflove, this level of um openness,
and it allows you to thinkclear, allows you to learn fast,
it allows you to have that, getthat job because the guy saw
something in you.
It allows your players topractice harder and to run
faster because they're free ofanxiety, of stress, of anything

(53:37):
that could hold them back, justby practicing the frequency of
love.
Oh my gosh, wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
Yeah, no, this is such good stuff.
How much time should a personbecause I believe people should
work on themselves and workingon themselves, and you're
talking about a lot of that timeI'm saying the formula I've
come up with is about 20% ofyour time should be working on

(54:07):
you, because that's how you canbe most effective with us.
For some of us it's a littlebit less.
Maybe for some of us it's alittle bit less, maybe for some
of us it's a little bit more.
But a portion of this has to bethis breathing and meditation.
It's not just I'm going to goto school and I'm going to learn
a whole bunch of stuff.
That's not just.
I think when people think oflike personal development, they
think it's you know, I got to goget a class real quick.

(54:28):
I got to have somebody tell mewhat I need to learn.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Learn more, go to school, that kind of stuff In
your mind.
How much of that personaldevelopment time should be
working on some of the thingsthat you're talking about?
I'm with you 20%.
I tell my clients just spend 20minutes a day for you, and it
could be meditation that day.
It could be working onemotional control tools like EFT
tapping.
It could be working ondifferent things with the breath
.
You know six to eight or fourfor box breathing.

(55:05):
Whatever the technique is forthe day.
It could be some a worksheetI've given you that helps you
self-realize.
It could be a time managementworksheet that helps you
organize yourself so that youcan gain clarity with your
schedule, which helps you be intune with what you're doing.

(55:27):
It could be a habit trackingsheet that I've given you.
You're only self-realizing whatyou're doing.
These are the times that you'respending with yourself.
You don't have to be a Buddhaand be quiet.
We need for you to spend timewith you and cut the cell phone

(55:48):
off, cut off the dog on TV, andthis time is for you to self
realize, and that's whatcoaching is about.
We can get you to see yourselfand now you can see the changes.
Dang, I'm lazy, I keepforgetting.
I can see now.

(56:10):
Dr B man, you helped me.
Me realize who I am.
Man, I'm about to go work onthis man.
That's what we need to do.

Speaker 2 (56:21):
And it's some of those distractions that, like
you said, that stop us fromworking on ourselves or that we
allow.
You know, the distraction ofthe television.
You know we'll just turn it onand just mindlessly have it on
for what?
You know what if you did beginto start turning it off?
Or you know the sometimes weget it.

(56:42):
I love sports.
I know you love sports.
We were both professionalathletes.
We understand sports right.
But if I know all the statisticsof Patrick Mahomes and you know
, with Michael Jordan or LeBronJames or whoever is Stephen
Curry, whoever these athletesare, but I'm not working on me,
it just seems like I have toshift that thought process of

(57:03):
going.
Until I can work on me, I can'tbe what I need to be in order
to help others.
I mean right, I mean in orderto or even have my life be
better if I'm not working on me.
I can't be what I need to be inorder to help others.
I mean right, I mean in orderto or even have my life be
better, if I'm not working on meall the time I started off with
the coaching with the onesimple question.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
I said a minute ago this is every coach that asked
this before you start what wouldyou like to have happen?
What would you like to havehappen?
What would you like to havehappen?
Yeah.
And then they like to havehappen, yeah.
And then listen, they've toldyou the whole story, yeah, okay,
so what would you like to havehappen?
Yeah, and then when you writeit, Yep you tailor the program

(57:42):
around and then, when they go,but I don't know how to make it
happen.

Speaker 2 (57:47):
Are you willing to listen to me so I can help you
get there?

Speaker 1 (57:51):
But I need to know what you would like to have
happen and once I can get that,coaching is about listening,
yeah, and hypnosis is aboutlistening first and intake forms
and get the intake form.
Okay, tell me about it.
I'm all ears and listen andlisten.
Never take notes.

(58:11):
Never take notes when I'm allears and listen and listen.
Never take notes.
Never take notes when I'mspeaking to a client, because it
builds trust.
Yeah, I know, when you'repaying attention, you never take
notes and as I listen and Ikeep listening and I listen and
I think that's about it.
Coach, awesome, anything else?
Yeah, that's about it.
So, what would you like to havehappen?

(58:32):
And all the things that you'vetold me, tell me what you want
to have.
I just want more confidencewhen you committed to it.
Yeah, I'm gonna.
Well, I'm gonna walk youthrough a series of tools and
this is how we gonna do it.
Because you said that youwanted this.
I'm gonna show you how I needfor you to stay engaged and to

(58:56):
um follow my steps.
So I do have coaching scripts.
I have a number of differentthings different scenarios for
baseball players, footballplayers, track.
So I have a.
I have a different conversationthat I've scripted on how I
want to lead it and then fromthere I just move to where it
goes and I figure out which toolthey need and then I teach them

(59:21):
how to use it.
And then I use worksheets toreinforce and to make themselves
realize oh, it's me, oh, and Igot to stop doing this.
And this is what I'm going touse to stop doing whatever this
is.
And here's the tool I'm goingto use.
I'm going to do breath work.

(59:42):
When I feel this emotion, I'mgoing to tap.
If I feel it in my gut that I'mnervous, then I'm going to come
back.
And now I'm going to cognitivereframe from negative self-talk
to positive self-talk when I dothis or say this to myself.
So in the book the Game ofTennis, the guy talks about

(01:00:09):
who's talking to who.
Dr B you messed up, dr B.
You got to get that right.
Who are you talking to, dr B,dr B1 or Dr B2?
Dr B1 is talking crap to Dr B2.
Who's talking to who?
The conscious mind is talking tothe subconscious mind, and the

(01:00:30):
subconscious mind is takingorders strict, hardcore orders
from Dr B1.
But the subconscious minddidn't know how to respond to
that and so Dr B1 is alwaysharder and harder.
You got to get this right.
We're messing up, we're losing.
You then have to parse and havemore empathy with Dr B2 so that

(01:00:57):
you can deliver that message alittle differently.
The conscious mind, which is DrB1, man, we got to work harder,
we got to get our bodies inshape.
The subconscious mind, which isDr B2 two, then responds and
starts to get going, and I likethis analogy.
It's Tim Galloway.
I like the analogy that he hasin the book who's talking to who

(01:01:21):
?
Who's talking to who?
That makes so much sense.
Yeah, I think it's the mentalgame of tennis.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah, no, okay, gotcha, I didn't read that one,
but oh my gosh, well, we are at.
I mean, we've been talking.
This has been such a good talk.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Yeah, we'll keep going forever.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Yeah, what do you want to make sure that we didn't
talk about that?
You want to make sure everybodyknows how to get a hold of
whatever it is that you want tomake sure, as we kind of oh my
gosh, it's been a greatconversation, I learned so much.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
If you want to work with me in a number of
capacities.
I said I'm a hypnotherapist,I'm a mental performance coach,
I have a sports hypnosis program.
You can reach me atjasonmedlock M-E-D-L-O-C-K dot
com.
If you just want mentalperformance tools, our website
is simple the mental game plandot com.
The mental game plan dotcom.
You can reach me there.
I have three things I want toleave with the audience.

(01:02:15):
Please, please Trust.
Trust your intuitiveness, Trustyour instincts.
Trust yourself to be the verybest you can be.
Relax Once you start to gainthis trust.
Relax.
Don't let stressful situationscome to you, Don't let that

(01:02:35):
emotion come to you and controlyou.
Learn to relax and thendiscover.
Discover the possibilities ofrewiring the brain, of creating
new neural pathways.
Discover the limited power youhave when you can connect with
yourself.
Trust, relax and discover anddiscover.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
All right.
Well, you guys have heard it.
Trust, relax, discover.
This has been an amazingconversation.
I hope you realize because Ididn't know this at first that
you can rewind and go back andlisten to all of the things that
jason has been talking abouttoday, and it's been incredible.
If this is the first show thatyou've seen of these, uh, this
series of journey, freedom,there are some amazing episodes

(01:03:22):
with some amazing men.
I go ahead and hit the you knowthe notification button, the
subscribe button, so you'rebeing able to partake, because I
think we are better togetherthan we are apart.
If we know more about eachother, we know about how we can
love on each other and be loved,this world can be such a better
place.
And if we can learn what othershave done, you know, we just

(01:03:43):
got, we had a great.
This is a great example of thisman who was in, you know, as an
athlete, was a professionalathlete, and then he came into
corporate America and wassuccessful there, and now he's
giving back and he's helping you.
So I encourage you to call him,I encourage you to go to his
website, find exactly what hecan do to help you be able to

(01:04:04):
move forward, and I hope yourealize that you are God's
greatest gift.
He loves you if you allow himto, and that you can be all you
can be, and so our goal is tohelp you become the person that
you are meant to be.
You guys have an amazing,awesome, just incredible,
awestruck day today, and we willtalk to you on the next one.
Thank you so much, jason.
It's been so incredible.
We'll talk to you later, thankyou.
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