All Episodes

May 1, 2025 31 mins

In a collaboration of Alchemical Dialogues and Unraveling Religion, co-hosted by Henry Cretella and Joel Lesses, Part 2 the Panels opens to discuss:

  • 'What makes us come alive?'
  • 'What is your 'note' in life?' (Rumi's 'be your note.')
Discussion turns to Rumi's quote 'when I was young I wanted to change the world, when I grew older I wanted only to change myself.'

How do we attune to spiritual teachers?

How do we know who our spiritual teachers are meant to be?

Moments that open and we lose sense of time, time falls away:
  • Activity 
  • When meeting new people, old karmic connections? 
  • In our Dharma, our work
  • Henry's discussions, Sohbet, mystical discussions on mystical subjects, with his teacher.
  • How do we find what makes us home in the world?
  • How do we cultivate spiritual discernment in Life?
  • The World as ourself
  • Is there preparation to receive 'flow' states?
The Panel also explores:
  • Where does the spiritual path begin? 
  • What are the implications of having a guide or spiritual teacher?
  • Teachers seeing into their students
  • Tears as an indicator of one's spiritual path
  • Sufism as a path of 'heart'
  • Karma of helping others as way of being helped
The importance of 'others before self.'

We end with two poems from Ikkyu:

Raincoat and Straw Hat

Woodcutters and fishermen know just how to use things.
What would they do with fancy chairs and meditation platforms?
In straw sandals and with a bamboo staff, I roam three thousand worlds,
Dwelling by the water, feasting on the wind, year after year.

I Hate The Smell of Incense

A master's handiwork cannot be measured
But still priests wag their tongues explaining the 'Way' and babbling about 'Zen.'
This old monk has never cared for false piety
And my nose wrinkles at the dark smell of incense before the Buddha.
Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Boysober

Boysober

Have you ever wondered what life might be like if you stopped worrying about being wanted, and focused on understanding what you actually want? That was the question Hope Woodard asked herself after a string of situationships inspired her to take a break from sex and dating. She went "boysober," a personal concept that sparked a global movement among women looking to prioritize themselves over men. Now, Hope is looking to expand the ways we explore our relationship to relationships. Taking a bold, unfiltered look into modern love, romance, and self-discovery, Boysober will dive into messy stories about dating, sex, love, friendship, and breaking generational patterns—all with humor, vulnerability, and a fresh perspective.

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.