November 21, 2023 • 65 mins
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This episode delves into the aftereffects of the GOP debate, particularly analyzing potential frontrunners like Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis. We also examine the dampening enthusiasm of young voters for the Biden administration, largely due to unmet campaign promises and ongoing concerns over issues like student loan forgiveness and economic anxieties. Lastly, the suspension of Tim Scott's presidential campaign is discussed, touching on what it means for the political landscape.
[Topic 1] 0:00 The Third GOP Debate
[Topic 2] 03:19 Third GOP Debate
[Topic 3] 36:37 Young Voters Question Biden's Support
[Topic 4} 56:25 Tim Scott Suspends Campain For President
01:00:20 Final Thoughts
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Stephan Garrison (00:00):
Ominous instrumental music
Microphone Array (Intelr S (00:07):
Good morning.
It is.
Thursday.
About 10 in the morning here andsunny, Orlando, Florida,
actually, it's raining outside.
You know, I am always a coffeeperson.
I love coffee.
It's the only thing to not makeme a bitch.
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In the morning.
It's it's almost like that.
Nate.
Donald's commercial.
It's like, don't talk to me.
Don't talk to me.
Why.
I haven't had my coffee.
But that's probably not why youguys are watching this video or
listening on apple, Spotify.
Or wherever else you get yourpodcasts from.
I've been gone for two weeks inNew York, obviously.
(00:51):
And I'll post those videos.
On our social media and I amStephane Garrison or the last
underscore conversation.
For you guys.
See my.
And venture.
So with that being gone for twoweeks, I wasn't able to produce
anything.
Honestly, I wasn't.
But we have a lot to talk.
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First.
We'll have to talk about the GL.
E eight.
Because I don't know.
I've watched the first two.
And this one, the third one, itkind of.
It just wasn't it for me.
It, it, I don't know.
Like I was more hoping on likedebating and the more I keep
(01:33):
watching these GOP debates, themore I'm like, this is not
really a debate.
This is more just like.
Old white people talking onstage that.
I guess I should care about.
After a GOP, then let's headover to, there's a lot of talk
about young voters, a lot andlead young voters like myself.
(01:55):
We turned out for Biden.
In 2020.
And.
A lot of them are starting tolike cast doubt.
Some of them are unsure whetherthey're on a vote for Biden.
Again.
There was also another articlewhich I'll bring in a separate
episode.
About black voters.
(02:16):
Are kind of on the scale of notvoting for five nine.
With how we're going to vote forthem because we're not voting
for.
The other guy who told us whenhe ran, you have no other
choice.
But I digress.
And then.
The only.
Black.
Candidate who was running forpresident for the GLP has
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suspended.
His campaign, which as most ofyou guys know when they say
suspend, they truly just meansthat they're ending it.
I know why they just don't belike, I am ending Mike and pain
now he's suspending it.
Which I guess maybe that'sgiving some of his.
Sponsors or supporters hope thatmaybe he'll run again another
(03:02):
four years maybe who knows?
But.
I'm not shocked, Tim Scott,wasn't doing very good in the
polls and onstage.
I was hoping for a lot more.
So I want to talk about allthree of those right here on the
last conversation.
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so, I don't know about you, but I.
Watch.
The GLP debates.
I usually, this is actually myfirst time watching.
These debates, usually I don't.
I watched a little bit whenBiden was running, I thought
that one was hilarious.
But this one, I was like, allright, we're going to watch it
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because I want to make surethat, you know, I understand
these people are running.
So the first two, I was like,okay, you know, they're not bad.
But then the third one.
I was kind of like, Where is.
Like no one is truly standingout to me to be.
A Republican.
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President right.
And I've never voted Republicanbefore.
But if I were, I would want oneof them to truly stand out
right.
And I'll give you my opinion ofwho I think stands out the most,
but I will also say that thisparticular person.
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There is a very slim chance thatthey will get the.
Nomination.
So moving on from that.
Abortion.
As we all know is a huge thingin our country right now.
We did an episode.
Of Roy V way when it was turnedover.
(04:45):
On our last podcast, which Paul,the conversation.
I will read posts that episodehere on the last conversation.
So you can see.
Exactly what was won on.
I remember I did that episode assoon as the Supreme court
overturned it.
And I, I, I did like anemergency episode, which I
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usually never knew, but I, Ileft work.
And I just came straight homeand I like set everything up,
which we had a different setupthan.
And I just went straight intoit.
And now the question.
It's been an, every singleelection that we've had since
it's been overturned.
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So the primaries, it was a hugething.
These special elections thatjust happened about a week ago.
It was always, it's always onthe ballot.
It's always on the ballot.
And the issue that Republicansalways face is that.
They just don't understand.
They, they say they know whatthe American people want.
(05:49):
But then it doesn't show, right?
Because a lot of them are stillsaying, oh, they're still saying
ban.
They're still saying.
They're saying the words thatpeople are still saying.
So in their minds.
Well, it's not really a ban, butessentially there's a band,
right?
And Democrats are using that totheir full advantage.
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They're like, Hey, you'reRepublican.
People want to ban abortions.
They want to restrict what awoman can do with her body.
You have here in Florida whereit was 15 weeks and most of
everyone in Florida.
We're pretty.
Concise with it.
Are we were content with it.
It was 15 weeks.
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You know, it's not the mostideal because a lot of doctors
who are smart and intelligenthave said that 15 weeks is still
not enough time.
Because most women are justfinding out that they were
pregnant within 15 weeks.
So it was 15 weeks here.
Here in Florida.
And then Santa is decided to bea complete jackass.
And turn it to six weeks and sixweeks struck a huge blow, right?
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Because six weeks is, that's notthat's, that's like child's play
at that point.
And so every time you see him ona.
On a stage.
Or if you see him talking to.
Or quarter, like one-on-one.
They always say you created oneof the strictest abortion ones
because there's only a secondstate that also has six weeks as
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well.
Some don't even have any weeks.
But with six weeks.
People are like, no, theAmerican people are like, no.
And then they asked him if hewould take that six weeks that
he did here in Florida and makeit a national.
And he said, yes, At obviously.
It's not going to go very wellfor him, the general, but that
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we're not even talking about.
That.
Essentially.
We're talking about the GOPdebate, which.
For the first 99 minutes oftheir debate.
They didn't talk about it, eventhough it is one of the biggest.
Topics.
Of the GLP it's going to be onevery single.
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Ticket from now until theSupreme court.
Says.
Okay.
Fine.
We will allow abortion.
At this many weeks under thesecircumstances that you, whatever
the case may be until it goesback to Supreme court.
Abortion will always be on everysingle ticket.
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And every candidate who wasrunning for a public office.
Even myself later.
In the years.
Needs to understand that thathow important it is.
So let's go into.
This one.
So unlike their last gatheringday, chaotics fumble up
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interruptions, cross top to thedate.
Wednesday in Miami did hammeraway.
pOints of substance.
And while those blessings weresurely worth debating, even if
the candidates largely agreed ontop lines, like supporting
Israel, holding Hamas, I ranChina.
The effects was ultimatelydisordered.
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If the GOP is going to take thatthe white house.
Why.
Knowing it, political hardnessstanding is in the way.
Considering the candidatesnarrow interest, it made some
sense, none of their views onabortion, which came out 20
minutes before closing time.
Our particular popular at themoment, taking together former
South Carolina, Nikki Haley.
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Plea for consensus on the issuein South Carolina.
Sendbird.
Tim Scott and cysts on it.
15.
Federal ban echo.
Logic set forth by Virginiagovernor when young skin.
And the days and weeks beforehis state GOP colleagues came up
short in a high state flighterslegislative contest.
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Abortion was the wasn't the onlydecisive topic they got short.
Shift in Miami, former presidentTrump to.
It was an afterthought for mostof the night after receiving a
few measure, jabs.
Early on and only at the POBlane of the men mediators.
Florida.
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Rhonda Santas summed up.
Argument against Trump sayingthat he is.
A different guy than he was in2016.
And like Haley suggesting theRepublicans not go chasing past
Laurie's.
The sense has.
He says the same.
Line.
Every single debate for the lastthree debates, he says the same
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line when it comes to Trump.
Oh, if he wants your vote.
He should be on stage.
And that's the only thing hesays, the only person who has
been the most critical.
Of Trump has been ChrisChristie.
Now a lot of experts out there.
Have set, the reason why thesefive candidates have not
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harshly.
Bashed Trump is because they.
Want to, they want thesupporters that Trump has to
come over to.
They're in pain.
Now you'll probably like we'llstep on.
If a bash and.
Will they not come.
Essentially.
Yes.
If you bash your.
(11:14):
Best for if you bash your bestfriend.
Do you think that your bestfriend's friends are going to
come over to your side and helpyou do whatever you're trying to
do?
Essentially now.
Right.
So.
In my view, they are tiptoeingaround the issue.
(11:34):
Trump is the issue.
You, I understand that you maywant.
Some of his supporters.
But.
Some of those supporters arelike, I call them at this point,
they're like all members, likethey are devoted to him.
So, but there are people inthat.
Holt that can be influenced tocome over to your side.
(11:58):
Right.
And that's the issue that thesefive tenets for present aren't
basic.
You have to attack.
Stop tiptoeing around him.
Stop saying insults, but they'renot really insults, like stop
saying, well, he should be here.
Obviously.
(12:18):
He hasn't been here for the lastweek.
Debates the scientist.
So stop saying he's not coming.
Right.
Every time you guys have it tobe.
He has another event thatreaches.
Pretty much the same amount ofaudience that you're the bait
has reached.
So you need to attack him.
Call him out for what he is.
(12:40):
Right.
That's the only way you're goingto have voters be like, Hey,
you're going to be a president.
Right.
It's going to go after peoplenot go after people.
Let me rephrase that.
It's going to stand up for us,right.
And until they attack him,They're always going to be
behind him.
(13:01):
I'm not saying attacking light.
Well now attack pretty much youhave.
Yeah, you have to do something.
You can't just keep saying thesesofter words out.
Oh, well, he should be here oryou have Nikki Haley saying,
well, he was a good presentthan.
But he's not the president thatwe need right now.
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Like come on.
Just shit.
You got to do more.
But that topic.
Trump was like last, like theybarely talk about him.
Which.
You know, Is whatever.
At one point.
They started talking about.
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Tik TOK.
And we'll, we'll talk about thatto the second.
So that who was also one of thecontenders was the lone
dissenter on that front.
Talking up his use of the app asa campaign tool while his rivals
play.
To bury it then effectivelycalling the Haley hypocrite
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because her daughter uses it.
Understandably and frustrating.
The Haley told.
The vet.
She leave my daughter out of themouth before dismissing him as
scum.
Aye.
I thought.
That that was probably.
The best moment.
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Of that entire debate.
And here's why I say that.
Is.
And like, and.
None of you guys really knowthis, but I, I like, I like
Hayley.
I probably would never vote forher.
But I like, I like, I, I.
Let me rephrase that.
I like that she's in acompetition.
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Onstage.
I don't even know now.
Let me rephrase that.
At this very moment.
I cheer for Haley.
I was like, yes.
Do it girl.
Because it's about time that wesee someone just finally just.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe you guys understand whatI'm trying to say, but at that
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very moment, I was like, Haley,you did like, and some people
were like, oh, maybe sheshouldn't have said that.
And I was like, no, she saidexactly what most of us was
feeling.
Coming from a parent standardview and I'm not hearing them
just to Cod.
Maybe still.
I felt like you like.
Family's a low blow.
Now in a separate interview thatthat CNN did with him after the
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bait, they, right.
Don't you think that's a lowblow and he's like, yeah, I
think it's a low blow.
And I think I should have.
You know, He.
Stayed with this stance, right?
I felt.
That it was a low blow that youshould not bring family into
politics.
And that even though herdaughter uses take top for
daughter is not integralcampaign.
(15:52):
Right.
If you saw Nikki using it, thenyou could criticize Nikki for
using the platform.
But her daughter is eight child.
And most children, or at leastall children use take top.
Right.
That's not.
Those two though.
Those are two, like apples,oranges that.
Are not equal.
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So I thought it was fine thatshe called them.
Honestly, I thought she wouldprobably call them a different
word, but.
Scum was.
It was pretty good.
I thought it was like a nice,nice head-on, but I liked it.
Anyways.
Let's move on.
Formal New Jersey, ChrisChristie.
Trump's harshest critic on thecable is hardly registered.
(16:34):
Put another dent in hisreputation as a shroud or
occasionally.
Public speaker.
Here are these six takeawaysthat CNN poll for you.
One was the foreign policy.
On Israel's war on Hamas there,it was little disagreement
between the five candidates andthat their answers were often
quite similar.
(16:55):
IB Paulin.
Then be finished the job once.
And for all of these butchers,the census said, Referring to
Israel's prime minister by hisnickname.
The first thing I said to him,When it happened was I said,
finish them.
He really said.
tHere was a sharp division overwhether the United States should
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continue to support you frame.
Against Russia is fresh.
Well that left.
No doubt where he studiedissuing a layby review on
Ukraine present.
Zelensky.
While accusing the war torncountry of harboring Nazis and
anti-democratic beliefs.
He goes on to say, to frame thisas some kind of battle between
(17:38):
good versus evil, don't buy it.
That's what VEC said.
Haley continued to tussle withthat outreach onstage said the
Russian president Putin andChinese leader.
Jim Payne were.
Salivating at the thought thatsomeone like that to become
president.
(17:58):
Christie agreed.
They go on to save.
Let's remember the last timethat we turned our backs on a
shooting war in Europe, perSEASET.
I brought it just, it brought usjust a couple years.
And then 500,000 Europeans werekilled in Europe to defeat
Hitler.
This is not a choice.
(18:19):
The sentence and Scott shiftedthe conversation from Ukraine.
To United.
Tonight at states and Mexicoborder and left out as to why
they believe us support for thecountry should continue.
We're not going to send our sonsand daughters.
Do you create Florida?
Governor said.
I'm going to send troops to oursuburb.
No comment.
No, just no comment.
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Just, just like in the second,the date abortion concerns,
didn't make it to the front tothe first, more than 90 minutes
of the program this time though.
The inclusion was especiallynotable as it came a night after
Ohio voters in shrine, abortionrights in their state
constitution.
And Republican suffered defeatsin key races across the country
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where the issue of abortion.
When the topic was finallybrought up, most of the
candidates help from what theirposition suggesting that they
had not been moved by Tuesday.
So results.
Scott stood on his calls for 15week federal ban while Haley
continued to push for a middleof the road approach.
She goes on to say that one morelooking at this.
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There are some states that'sgoing to be pro-life side.
I welcome that.
There are some states going tobe pro-choice side.
I wish that wasn't the case,but.
The people decided.
Haley in my opinion is trying tobe the middle brown place.
Right.
So she isn't.
(19:45):
Far, right?
So she's not a, like a Trumper.
She's trying to be like thatmiddle ground present.
And I think it.
It's.
It's a hit or miss.
Honestly, it is.
Because.
I don't know.
It's I don't think, I think thecountry's ready for someone to
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be middle ground, but they also.
You can be a Republican in themiddle ground.
You still have to get most ofyour base behind you.
And there are a lot ofRepublicans.
Not middle ground.
And they were on the right sideof a lot of issues.
So she's trying to be thatmiddle ground person.
Which could help her.
But it also could be her weeklytoo.
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So it just depends.
On how things play out betweennow and.
And January, if her team canreally bolster that she is going
to be this bi-partisanpresident, right.
Because there have been surveysabout our country worked.
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So if Congress was morebi-partisan.
And the country loves when weare bipartisan.
Right.
And we work together to achievethese types of goals.
Not every site is going to getwhat they want, but every site
gets something.
And the country.
Is more willing to go that routethen for Matt gates to shut down
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our entire government system byousting.
McCarthy.
That three weeks of not having agovernment, people did not like
that bills did not get passed.
Legislations did not get passed.
People didn't honestly knowwhat.
I could do, or, you know, wehave the present.
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Who's calling for certain thingsto happen.
That can't happen without afunctional government.
And so when things happen on.
Bi-partisan agreement.
People are more accepting ofthat because they're like, okay,
we got something done.
We're not just sitting on ourhands and our ass doing nothing.
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People pay.
The people vote for theserepresentatives to go to
Congress, to make these lawsright, to help shape our
country.
And on a bipartisanship, thatmeans our country gets rolling.
So.
That's my little speech.
Moving on.
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UmDe Santase, meanwhile seemedto put Tuesday's losses at the
feet of anti-abortion groups.
Saying that they've been caughtflat footed on these.
Referendum.
Since the reversal.
Voters in states across thepolitical spectrum, including
Kansas, Michigan, California,Vermont, and now Ohio.
Voters have affirmed the right.
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To an abortion in the ballotmeasures.
It's a stark reversal from thesecond debate.
When Santa said of the 20 2022election results, I reject the
idea that pro-lifers are toblame for midterm defeats.
So in this issue.
After the.
Anti-abortion groups and waslike, Hey.
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You guys haven't been doing yourjob.
Obviously, these people arewinning the pro you know, pro.
Abortion.
Pro pro-choice.
And he's like you anti-people,aren't doing a.
You're flat-footed you should becampaigning more.
I don't necessarily think thatthat is.
One to help him.
When it comes to getting yoursupport, because they're going
to be like, what do you meanwe've been, flat-footed
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obviously.
The people.
What this.
It goes on to say it.
Wasn't the only answer onabortion.
Which the census flipped.
After declaring at the Septemberdebate that he would sign up
bill to block the procedure.
After 15 weeks is present.
If it's reached his desk, thesentence went back to ducking
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support for a federal ban.
I was not necessarily going todo it the same as Virginia.
So you've got to work for thebottom.
You got to work from the bottomup.
No one likes someone who's goingto keep changing.
You saw how.
We'll go from there.
Christie said Tuesday's results.
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We're what the constitutionalfarmers.
Wanted and what anti-abortionadvocates had hoped for and
overturning review, wait,letting the states decide.
He goes on to say that we havepeople running to say let's
short circuit, the states fromdoing what they need to do.
And let's go right to some typeof federal ban at a certain
(24:23):
number of weeks.
I think, and this is my opinion.
My opinion alone.
When the states decide.
That's what should happen?
I think, I don't think that thedecision was the greatest in the
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world.
But we also did not see what wascoming about.
We did not see these states turnout in numbers to support
abortion.
Right.
And when Supreme courtoverturned it, I was like, man,
now it's back to the states.
It's just.
It's not going to work.
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But.
Look at what we got, thesestates are choosing.
Especially some of those stateswho have very hard line
abortions.
Legislation.
Right.
So the people are deciding, no,we want these, we want these
rights, these rights are theconstitution they're enshrined
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in being an American woman inthis country.
It shouldn't be in the hands of.
Men or the government of whatyou should be able to do.
With your body and it showing.
And now.
Republicans are kind of like,oh, We did not expect this to
happen.
So.
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The next topic that they talkedabout was China.
And I love talking about Chinabecause for some reason,
Everyone is like, well, China isthis and China is that.
You do realize that both of oureconomies.
Depend on each other.
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Right.
Everything that isn't made herein America is made from China.
They get shipped over here.
So our economies depend on eachother.
So we have to have that workingrelationship.
I like to call it.
The.
I like to call it.
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The brothers the United Statesin China.
Well brothers.
We're brothers that don't likeeach other we're brothers that
we do separate things.
And our separate households.
We may not like what our brotherdoes in their household.
They may not like things that wedo in our household.
But we have to work together.
(26:49):
In order for both of oureconomies.
To grow.
Right.
Biden just met with Jean ping.
There are Chinese presidentabout two days ago.
We'll do that.
We'll talk about that in anotherepisode.
But we have to have thatconsistent relationship with
them.
You know, it's us, China andRussia.
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Probably the three most biggest,super excuse me, superpowers in
the world.
We have to have.
Working relationship with atleast one of them.
Right.
And our economy.
Kind of goes off of China.
Right.
They come over.
We get aro.
We get our technologies fromthere.
Phones from there we get.
(27:32):
Gaming systems from there, wehave tourism from both from both
ends.
So we're brothers.
We need each other.
We may not like what each otherare doing on our individual
sides.
But we need each other.
And I think some of theseRepublicans who are like, well,
Russ take it to China.
You can only stick it so muchbefore China says, well, fuck
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you get your shit from somewhereelse.
And then these Republicanpresidents are going to be like,
well, what are else.
We don't wait.
We mate.
Things here in America.
But we don't make enough as ifwe're getting it from China.
We're getting money, abundanceof things.
Right?
So our economies depend on eachother.
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So we need to work on that.
We need to build, I'm not sayingthat we need to be best friends,
but we need to be.
Causal.
We need to understand that a.
We need each other.
So we can.
Be able to have that friendship.
So that's another speech.
Sorry.
Anyway, so, but the scienceisn't Haley disagreed over
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China.
The sentence, criticized Haleyfor recruitment.
The Chinese fiberglass companythat comes to her state during
her tenure as governor.
Centers said she welcomed theminto South Carolina, gave them,
landed near a military base,wrote the Chinese ambassador, a
love letter saying that what agreat friend that they are that
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was.
Like they're number one way toan economy, to an economic
development.
In Florida.
I banned China from buying landin the state.
He continued, we kicked the.
Institutes out of ouruniversity.
We recognize the threat andwe've acted swiftly and
decisively.
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That's what he said.
Now as I just said, Oureconomies depend on each other.
They need us.
We need them.
bUt Haley wasn't given anopportunity to immediately
respond, but she didn't let thecritique slip by and later
attached to senses.
Own record through the stateeconomic development agency.
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She says, yes, I bought afiberglass.
Company 10 years ago, the SouthCarolina, but Ron, you are the
chair of your economicdevelopment agency.
That as of last week saidFlorida is the ideal place for
Chinese businessmen.
And then the, that now.
Yeah, the get his littlefeathers in there.
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Same as the sentence was correctto point out Hailey's previous
support for Chinese investment,but the entrepreneur went on to
criticize the Florida governorover ties to a donor.
Lobbied on behalf of the Chineseinvestment in the us.
That appeared to be a referenceto a poor set, the sentence
donor 10 Griffin, the CEO of thehedge fund.
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Citadel push to amend the billthat allowed Chinese nationals
to purchase property near.
Military basis.
In the us, the scent has denied.
The next.
Accusation.
We're going to take a quickbreak when we come back.
The Vivek wanted to throw blows.
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And he threw blows everywhere.
Microphone Array (Intelr Smar (30:47):
I am happy that we took that break
because my laptop is about todie.
So Vivek decided that, you knowwhat?
Fuck it.
It's the third debate I'm goingto swing at.
Except for Trump.
During the first debate.
Vivek, called the otherRepublicans super pack puppets
at last months.
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Semi valley, California advent.
He told it down, calling themgood people, tainted.
By broken.
System.
The question then.
Was which version would show upin Miami?
The.
Former debate kid or thedignified states.
The answer was clear.
Within minutes, the biotechentrepreneur came out, swinging
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against the media.
Haley did the bait monitor themedia publican national
committee chair, woman.
Rona.
McDaniel.
DeSantis And Florida governorsboots.
Basically.
Anyone.
But Trump was Cherokee.
Asked why voters should back.
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Over Trump.
He said error out a loud list ofRuden says first he blamed
McDaniel for the string oflosses.
Republicans have suffered since2017.
When she was elected RN share,but also notably.
Office and gave her an option tocome on stage and resign.
(32:12):
And then he blacks, the decisionto have NBC news, Lester Holt,
and Kristin.
Walker hosts the Salem radios,Hugh Wyatt.
I think about who's moderatingthis debate.
This should be, this should betougher.
Carson, Joe Rogan or Elon Musk.
He said before blasting thecorrupt media establishment.
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On Israel.
He said that he would encourageIsrael prime minister, Benjamin
NAHU to smoke those terrorists.
On his Southern border while thepresidential candidate.
What the smoking materialist onour Southern border.
Who has sought to distinguishhimself as an American first
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candidate?
And I feel up.
Neo-cons.
Then, so that didn't Haley forher foreign policy Rhonda
centers who has battled thesespeculation over his boots, who.
The crossfire.
Do you want a leader on adifferent generation?
Who's going to put his countryfirst.
Or do you want Dick Cheney inthree inch?
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Feels.
We've got two of them.
Yeah.
You know, everyone's talkingabout his.
Or like starting up.
Like whole up.
Like boots were flattened on.
Anyways, what's your problem.
And who were the two people who.
You think?
Well, I wouldn't say who aregoing to drop out.
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You think kind of fizzle.
Chris Christie and Tim Scott.
Now one could the forgiven forforgetting that Christie and
Scott were even on the debatestage.
Wednesday night.
The other three candidates weremore interested in scoring shots
at each other and seem to viewChristie and Scott.
As lagging too far behind in thepolls to spend much time on.
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There were only a few momentswhen Scott and Christie were
even addressed in one Haley, notto fellow South Carolina on
abortion.
After he said as present, hewould.
He was back a 15 week nationallimit.
On the procedure and IRD, bothto Sansa.
and Haley to agree with them.
Haley countered with, there arean anti-abortion bill sponsored
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by South Carolina, LindseyGraham.
That Scott reframed fromsupporting.
And he's been Dade on hisposition on abortion.
Scott shot back.
That's just not true for themost part though.
Scott and Christie didn't reallyget into the fray and the other
three candidates were fine withthat.
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Now.
Let's talk about it.
As we now, Tim Scott droppedout.
Chris Christie will probably bethe next to drop his.
His poll numbers are just notthere.
I think he's only staying afloatbecause he's the only.
Candidate, who was I just comingafter Trump, like, so he's going
to stay there.
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And my personal opinion.
I think the back is going toeither drop out or.
Has pulled number one, other.
But I think RNC will probablyRNC in the pack.
We'll probably not support forthat anymore, which I think he's
doing most of the stuff on itsown anyways.
So he's not really going offthrough donations.
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Who I'm really looking at isHayley.
Nikki Haley, I think.
That there is a slim chance thatshe could be a nominee, but at
the same time you have Santas.
So.
thEre's been a lot of debates ofwho could defeat Biden.
I think that Haley wouldprobably have a good chance.
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And at the same time with howher poll numbers are.
How Ron's numbers are.
I think if Ron was the nominee.
I don't think he would want.
That's my person.
I think he's just, he's one ofthose people where, you know, he
enacted the first six week banand he stands by it.
He says that Florida is a statethat people should look at.
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But honestly, Florida, isn'tdoing very good.
We would've had a lot of moneycome in doing summer.
And even over the winter timeswith a lot of big conventions,
But because of his war on Disneyhas policies.
That's politics.
They decided to not show up.
And that'll be happening for.
So.
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That's what I think.
Well, we'll keep an eye out forit.
Anyways, our next topic is youngvoters.
We'll be right back.
Microphone Array (Intelr Sm (36:38):
So.
Young voters.
We essentially to Biden to thefinish line.
I say that.
Because.
We did.
But those been.
I don't know, like, and youknow, they said this about Obama
is that during this time Obamapoll numbers were.
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We're low too, for his secondterm.
And now it's happening.
Bye.
And there was a lot of youngvoters who are.
I wouldn't say that they're not,they're not there, but they're
on that question.
So one young voter gave.
So.
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His side and was like, You know,we were excited.
And I think that's what we need.
Like we need.
More excitement for the campaignfor him running again.
I think.
You know, with the war in Israelwith crane.
Hobby Tonomys going with studentloan forgiveness.
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There's not a lot of excitementand a lot of young people.
Or feeling it.
So let's talk about it.
And I'll give you my opinion atthe end.
Of what I think.
By needs to do to start ignitingsome of those fires.
Let's go into it.
As Carrie Singleton looks aheadof the next presidential
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election, he's thinking back tothe excitement that he felt when
president Joe Biden and vicepresident.
I'm a Harris visit the historicgrounds.
Of Clark Atlanta university andMorehouse college.
He says, I remember the energythat was here on campus that
day.
he Stood in a crowd andapplauded the speech on voting
rights and democracy.
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And.
On that course.
Winter day in January, 2020, thepresident was closing in on his
first year in office andSingleton and others.
Any audience at high hopes?
Since then voting rightslegislation.
And the Congress, the Supremecourt rejected student loan
forgiveness, the high prices.
From food to housing are feelingthe economic anxieties that
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Singleton said.
Have come together to dampen hisenthusiasm for the pilot.
For the possibilities.
What the Biden administrationcould achieve.
He goes on saying that we're notexpecting them to make changes
overnight.
But I do think that people.
Or everyone is willing to holdthe administration accountable
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for some of these promises thatwere made, if they don't happen.
I don't think it's it's.
I think it's going to be a scaryelection.
For all those warning signsfaced and present a year before
the election.
Apart from the skepticism ofyoung voters is a high on list.
A spokesman for the Bidencampaign called the election
deeply.
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Deeply hardened for the youngpeople and pledged to build on
the strong turnout for youngvoters.
In the 2022.
Midterm elections yet.
A respectful resistance towardthe president comes alive in one
conversation after the other.
The deepest conversation.
Touching his age, he turns 81next week.
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The economy.
And Israel and Hamas.
His age, let's talk about it.
By the time he gets out, he'llbe like 85, 86.
Give or take.
Trump's not map.
So, yes, his age is.
Then we are all concerned abouthis age.
(40:13):
He jokes about his age, and onething.
And I'm going to just step asidefor one second.
I promise we'll get back tohere.
One thing that I do not likeabout them.
Right now is.
They.
It irritates me.
When.
They are.
(40:35):
Talking about replacing him.
Right.
Which if they wanted to replacehim.
That should have been a decisionyou do before.
He announces that he's wantingto reel.
He's willing to run again forreelection.
Do not do this while this man isin office right now, running.
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it is one of my biggest petpeeves with the party, because.
It kind of undermines thepresident, right.
It undermined.
You have these.
You have these Democrats?
Who are leaving their position.
To run for prison.
And it's like, dude.
I don't know what you're tryingto accomplish because at the end
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of the day, The end of the daygoal.
And this has been said, Is tothe feet, Trump.
Somehow some Mashable way.
We have to defeat this guy.
And if you have all these peoplerunning for office out of his
own party, It takes votes fromBiden.
You may get a few.
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But then Trump gets up.
Because people are now dividing.
Right.
It's not a two, it's not twopeople.
It's one.
You already know who the nomineeis going to be.
It may change.
It may not.
But then you have like fiveother people.
We're also writing for eightdemocratic.
Precedent.
It kind of leaves people unsureof what's going to happen.
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And that's just my that's justmy side note.
I don't like it.
Because it doesn't help.
So his age is something thateveryone has talked about.
Yes.
He's old.
We all know he's old.
He's still doing the job right.
The other thing that they talkabout is the economy the economy
is, and I don't know why heattaches name to.
(42:22):
But he did and it's called by aneconomics.
And With the war on Ukrainethings and gotten expensive.
And now Israel.
And Ammas has many thingsexpensive to wars are expensive.
They have a drastic.
Effect on the economy.
Relationships.
Well, China don't meet theeconomy any better because
things are a lot more expensiveto get certain technologies to
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get certain products.
With the student loanforgiveness.
You know, I don't know.
I understand where the thoughtit's coming from.
And I appreciate what he'strying to do.
But I think a lot of youngpeople, you got understand that
the president just doesn't havethe power to just push it
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through.
Right.
As you saw, he's tried pushingit through, so we have to give
him credit for something, right.
Because.
How am I says no, or he.
Or he's getting sued or whateverthe case may be.
But.
Certain things just don'thappen.
Overnight.
Certain things won't happen in acertain administration because
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you have a house that's run byRepublicans.
If the house was.
Nine by Democrats in the Senatewas run by Democrats.
We could push almost everysingle thing that Biden wants to
do.
And pass it.
But because the house isRepublican and the Senate is
Democrat.
There's only so much that he canactually push through.
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Especially if the Republicansdon't agree.
You know, We're the minoritiesin the house.
If we have.
Full support of the house.
Then we could do whatever wewant.
That's something that we have tounderstand of how this
government works.
Let's move on.
If they can fund a war, they canfind the money to pay off her
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student loans said, RachelCarol.
Who cast her first vote forpresident for Biden.
The cost of living is way toohigh right now.
I don't think the economy reallycaters to young people.
Carol says she doesn't regrether vote for Biden.
Particularly given thealternative of Donald Trump, but
finds herself disappointed bysome of the white house.
Priorities.
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They made a lot of promisesgoing into office and a lot of.
Those have not been met.
Carol said he graduated lastyear and works for a nonprofit.
At advocacy group, she says sheintends to vote for, by them
again, but worries about a lackof enthusiasm.
She sees among people, her age.
It is for Biden.
However, it's against Trump inthe same breath.
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A lot of the times we're voting,unfortunately for the lesser of
two evils.
Kevin Munez, a spokesman for theBiden campaign said the election
will offer a.
Stark choice and a clearcontrast.
Next November.
If you can fund a war, you canfind money to pay off our
student.
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I am not the way I'm laughing isit's almost like those two
aren't even on the same.
Plainfield.
They're really not.
And some of you who watch orlisten, you're going to be like
Stefan.
What.
Are you talking about, or youmay disagree with me or you
might even agree with me.
But a war.
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Is different from paying offyour student welcomes.
Remember that?
Your student loans.
You took those student loans.
The government did not say, Hey,take the student loan.
You took the student loan, soyou have to be responsible for
some of it.
But paying off all your studentloans and that's something that
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never truly gets the, I mean, Ihave student loans too.
I'm paying them off myself.
But a war is completelydifferent.
Or is helping our ally.
And paying off your student loanis.
You know, we try, they tried andit got shot down.
So he can just keep trying andmaybe rework the words or
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whatever the case may be.
However Republicans are tryingto fit their own little 2 cents
in there.
But paying off your studentdebt.
Is not a priority.
Remember, it's your student thatyou got the student.
So.
Anyways.
Some of, you might think I'm anasshole for saying that, but
(46:43):
honestly, Like.
I don't, I, me personally, Ihave student loans myself.
I'm getting even more.
And I don't expect.
Need to pay off my studentloans.
I'll eventually paid them offwhen I'm like eight years old.
Anyways.
They go on to say that we'reworking hard to highlight how an
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extreme mega agenda woulddevastate the financial
security, safety and freedom ofyoung people.
He also added as Democrats didin 2020 and 2022.
We will meet young Americanswhere they, where they are and
earn their boats.
Instead.
Young voters were criticalcomponents of the presence.
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Victory, particularly here inGeorgia.
We're buying the feed at Trumpby 11,779 volts out of nearly 5
million cats.
Exit polls in 2020 show thevoters 18 to 29 made up 20% of
Georgia.
Georgia is a wet.
Electoral and the only state.
Of the top six battle rounds.
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The percentage of young voters.
And see that the nationalSheriff's 17%.
Then by one Georgia voters back.
14 points up onto the exitpolls, but now a year before the
elections share res shows.
Far closer race or voters underthe age of 30, have split weigh
six for Trump and 44 for byte.
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And that's according to a NewYork times and Sierra college.
Pole.
yoU've got to vote forsomething.
saId Georgia state, SenatorNevada.
Is parts Democrat who organizedvoters in 2020 to help build
Biden's winning coalition.
The first time around we fired.
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Donald Trump this time aroundand voters want to rehire Biden.
Then they want to, and they wantto see politics and they want to
feel like the issues they'reconcerned about.
Are being hurt.
Is on Perth and Muslim Americanwho last fall became.
Youngest woman elected toGeorgia Senate said rebuilding a
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democratic coalition has beenmore complicated.
Given the anger many youngvoters have expressed over the
administration's financialsupport for Israel in the
aftermath of October 7th,masker.
Israeli civilians by Hamasterrorists.
They don't want to feel.
Complaint and the funding of anongoing war.
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I think that young votersrecognize you can't bomb your
way to peace insecurity.
A Gibson, a senior Morehousecollege also recalled the
excitement of seeing BidenHarris visit campuses.
Last year, he said that Ian tendto support Biden.
But without the enthusiasms ofthe 40 years ago.
We're going into an electioncycle where we have to pick up
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between two different people whoare very, very old in age.
I think that there should beother candidates that should
have emerged from a democraticparty to actually challenge
Biden.
Paul spoke.
Classmates.
He would see Biden past Bhutan.
He said to many Americanpoliticians.
(49:52):
To reboot, to retire, whichfeeds mistrust in the system.
My generation tries to tries notto play in age-ism.
But there are some really validconcerns buy and use 82 wants to
win reelection.
Exterior.
Trump would be 78 next year.
It's like, why would you evenwant to work when you reached a
certain age?
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I would enjoy the final years ofmy life in peace.
I think that brings a lot ofmistrust.
Another freshmen said that he isconcerned of softening.
Of support for buying them onmany young black voters,
particular men.
He feared a disinformationcampaign was at work when they
have undermined by sanding, buthe also believed voters were
(50:35):
eager for inspiration.
A lot of lap.
Response from young generationscomes because they want to see
that there is so hoped in.
But our out of the darkness.
Some of the biggestaccomplishments in the Biden
administration was frominfrastructure funding and the
lowering of prescription drugs.
Don't resonate as loudly andinterviews with young voters
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childcare, affordable housing,abortion rights.
We're expresses for our biggerpriorities.
With biomed, the top of theticket, potentially facing a
rematch in the 2020 race.
Young voters say the burdenrests on him to deliver on its
promises and stir excitementabout his candidacy.
Not take their support forgranted.
I leave you this just as we holdTrump accountable.
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The Morehouse senior sob by.
Early last year, we hope byaccountable as well.
So.
Let's talk about it.
I think.
I agree with part of this.
What most of this, I believe theexcitement needs to become more
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excitement.
I remember watching, I didn't goto any of the campaigns, but I
remember watching it on TV.
I remember seeing.
Former president Obama.
Out there.
Campaigning.
And people love him now.
So I saw the excitement, thecampaigning.
The complainant in the middle oflight blocking off intersections
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campaign.
In the middle of the streets.
I remember the excitement thatwe had.
And.
I believe that that excitementcan come back.
And I'm hoping that after theholidays, that excitement starts
up again.
My advice.
Would be for the Biden campaign.
(52:23):
To essentially.
We start.
When I mean by restart is that alot of young voters are going to
be your primarily are going to.
Are going to be turning out.
A lot of them turned out forbiting.
In the last election.
We need them to turn out again.
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But you have to bring thatexcitement just because you won
the first four years, you haveto keep going.
And one message that we for ouryoung voters is that, as I've
said before, when you have adivided.
Government things do not getpast.
At all.
Right.
So you said childcare,affordable housing.
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an Abortion.
As you have seen abortion hasbeen on every single ticket.
Which is good and that's all weneed to keep voting on.
That's how we make abortion apriority.
Affordable housing.
Is something that comes down toa state level as well.
And that's voting for peoplewho.
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Who are, who their message is.
Hey, we need to put caps onhousing, right?
Cause right now in Floridahousing, Housing goes up about
20% every year, 20%.
It's not a lot, but 20% for, youknow, a one bedroom.
That was staying yet.
(53:47):
Maybe costed you.
When I lived down here.
You know, towards the early 2016and 17 housing was completely
affordable.
But because housing was going upevery 20 odd, 20% a year at
increased.
One bedroom now.
And the complex I live in iscurrently 16 on routers.
(54:07):
Right.
So in Florida, you need aroommate.
Otherwise you're going to beliving.
And, you know, you may not wantto live in that type of
environment.
So I definitely think that.
Those issues need to beaddressed.
And I think that on the campaigntrail, that's what he needs to
be doing is addressing theseconcerns.
(54:30):
Addressing the abortion beinglike guys, we are doing
everything we possibly can tomake sure that abortion is on
that ballot, but also giving itto the voters and being like you
guys make this stuff happenevery time there's election, you
hold these politicians and youtell them, Hey, look, this is
what we want.
And.
Show them the results.
(54:51):
Hey, it happened in Michigan.
It happened in Ohio.
This is what we want.
For childcare.
I believe we passed somethingfor child.
I believe they path.
I don't know why we say we theypass something for childcare.
I'd have to do my research.
I, I think, I think it's overnow, but childcare is also an
issue.
Having another childcare bill.
(55:13):
But as I've said before, andI'll say it again.
We are.
The minority in the house.
Right.
If we had complete control ofthe house, we could do
essentially anything we want.
At essentially anything, butessentially we could pass those
bills because we have themajority, but because we don't
have the majority in the house.
(55:34):
We're subject to what.
Now the Senate, we have theSenate, which.
They haven't been speculationsthat we may not have the Senate
next year, just depending on howthings are going.
But the election for Senate andCongress, I believe is next year
as well.
So young people make sure you'revoting.
For people you want to see ifyou, if you think childcare.
(55:56):
If you believe that childcare isthat important to you?
Vote for people who are going tosupport a childcare bill.
iF you want.
I wouldn't say equal housing,but if.
You want low housing, lowerhousing and cost like that.
You have to support people whoare going to be on that ballot
to do.
So anyways, We are way over ourtime when it nets and final
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topic.
When I talk about is Tim Scottdiscontinuing his campaign for
president.
We'll be right back.
Yeah.
All right.
So last topic, and then we areclosing out.
We alright.
Currently 59 minutes.
Episode.
I told you it was going to be alot.
We had a lot to catch it up,obviously.
(56:40):
But.
Tim Scott, as you know, he wasthe only black candidate on.
On the GOP stage.
Has suspended his campaign forpresident and as most of you
now, When they say suspend, theyjust.
Are there any need?
Or I guess, I guess suspensionwould be like he's suspended
(57:01):
until the next presidentialelection.
Whenever.
That case may be.
Pence also dropped out to.
But here's what he said on Foxnews.
He says, I love America moretoday than I did.
I May 22nd, but when I go backto Iowa it will be not as a
presidential candidate.
I'm suspending my campaign.
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The announcement on Sundaynights of many of Scott's aids
and donors by surprise to peoplepost.
This campaigns that they werenot given advance notice, even
though it was becomingincreasingly clear, Scott was
facing the uphill struggle tobreak through.
To their GLP primary.
The super pat supporting Scottpulled its slate of television
ads in October.
(57:44):
And following last week's thirddebate decided not to make a new
investment.
Scott's presidential prospectsdimmed over the last several
weeks, beginning with thesuperpacs decision to pull ads.
Last month.
Scott's campaign set.
It's going Going all in on Iowa.
The fact to gain on hisprimarily rivals by targeting.
(58:05):
Nomination contest.
For the GOP calendar.
Scott.
Kept the decision to exit therace close.
His best people linked to hiscampaign said by the timing.
It was more surprising than theannouncements health.
His team had been worried aboutqualifying for the fourth
Republican debate.
Next month after being the lastcandidate to meet the donors and
(58:27):
pulling threshold.
To mate, I'm the third debate.
hE has been hoping a strongdebate performance with
jumpstart, his candidacy, buteven he can see that too.
Risers.
Or he concerned to at.
Alleys in advisers that ithadn't happened.
By leaving the race.
Now people chill closestcampaigns that they, he could
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return to the Senate without anembarrassing finish in Iowa.
He reserves the possibility.
Of a future.
Presidential run.
And leaves without getting inthe crosshairs of Donald Trump.
Should the former presidentbecome the nominee.
Tim ran a optimistic and hopefulmessage, but that's not what.
The Republican basis, right?
(59:09):
Now.
There was more, but it's TimScott.
But he does say one last night.
I want to read it for you.
He says, I think the voters whoare the most remarkable people
on the planet have been reallyclear.
That they're telling me.
Not now, too.
I don't think they're saying.
(59:31):
Trey.
No.
But I don't think that they'resaying.
Not now what.
And so I'm going to respectvoters and keep working really
hard and look forward to.
Tim Scott.
At least, you know, He has thepresidential.
The date under his.
(59:52):
Not the date, but at least hehas the presidential contender
under his belt.
Now as a title.
You know, he ran for president.
And he suspended his campaignbecause he knew he was not doing
very good in the polls.
No one was really changing.
Tim Scott right now.
Anyways with that being said,Let's.
(01:00:16):
I wasn't going to stop and thendo another, but let's go ahead
and end with final thoughts.
Microphone Array (Intelr Sma (01:00:22):
So with final thoughts.
The GOP debate.
Showed us who is likely going tobe.
Obviously we know Trump ispolling very high right now, but
I think the next two options isgoing to be the Santas and
Nikki.
Haley.
I Think Nikki Haley can.
Get seconds.
(01:00:44):
But she needs to start not onlyattacking Trump, but she also
needs to start attacking thesentence for his policies.
For how he says everyone shouldlook at Florida of how well
we're doing when honestly we'renot.
And I think the abortion.
What she said on stage thatsheets to run with that.
As everyone keeps saying thatRepublicans are going to keep
(01:01:05):
losing because they don'tunderstand what Americans want.
They say, they know that we,what, what people want.
They're like, oh, well this iswhat the American people want.
And it's truly not.
So until they understand.
What the needs are.
They're going to keep losing.
So I think.
Haley has that advantage ofsaying what she did.
(01:01:27):
She needs to kind of pounce onit.
And these losses that they lostwith with a special election
that just happened.
She needs to see where thelosses are and see what she can.
I Think.
That young voters are going toturn out for Biden.
But I believe that Biden needsto start.
(01:01:49):
Running.
In a sense, his campaign needsto pick up.
We need to have that excitementthat we had in 2020.
So that means coming back out tocampuses.
That means.
You know, getting, getting thoseDemocrats who are, who can have
an upper.
So you have Obama have the shellout there.
Have those people who got usexcited before for you.
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To do that again.
Understand where we are in theeconomy under, you know?
Yeah.
You're saying I understand, buttruly come out to the young
people and be like, well, Iunderstand where you've
struggled.
Okay.
These are the challenges that weare facing in order to get to
where we all want to be.
I think some young people needto understand that you need to
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pay off some of your studentloan yourself and not try and
have them pay it off for you.
Because I didn't understand thatcontrast of student loans.
We have to, this is our ally.
We have to do this.
We have like, we have to supportUkraine.
So Russia doesn't think that ithas the power to just take over
another country.
Those things we have to dostudent loans.
(01:02:57):
It's kind of it's on the docket,but it's going to come a little
later.
That's something that we justhave to keep fighting.
In-house for.
And piece out Tim Scott.
It was nice.
Seeing, you know, a black faceon.
I shouldn't have said that itwas nice seeing a black.
African-American descentcandidate on the stage for
president.
(01:03:17):
It always is.
I'm running for these electedoffices, but as you said
yourself, I don't think the timeis right for a Tim Scott right
now.
Especially.
Maybe after we, after the wholeTrump thing and Biden's out of
office of his second term.
Then there's a possibility ofhaving a Tim Scott back onstage
(01:03:38):
and having more voice.
But I think suspending your, hiscampaign was a good decision
and.
You know, maybe he can helpNikki Haley and help her
campaign and see where they,where their weaknesses are,
where their strengths are.
And combined and maybe yOu candefeat Trump that way as well.
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Our entire episode.
Before I do leave, I want to.
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Good morning.
It is.
Thursday.
About 10 in the morning here andsunny, Orlando, Florida,
actually, it's raining outside.
You know, I am always a coffeeperson.
I love coffee.
It's the only thing to not makeme a bitch.
(00:29):
In the morning.
It's it's almost like that.
Nate.
Donald's commercial.
It's like, don't talk to me.
Don't talk to me.
Why.
I haven't had my coffee.
But that's probably not why youguys are watching this video or
listening on apple, Spotify.
Or wherever else you get yourpodcasts from.
I've been gone for two weeks inNew York, obviously.
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And I'll post those videos.
On our social media and I amStephane Garrison or the last
underscore conversation.
For you guys.
See my.
And venture.
So with that being gone for twoweeks, I wasn't able to produce
anything.
Honestly, I wasn't.
But we have a lot to talk.
(01:11):
First.
We'll have to talk about the GL.
E eight.
Because I don't know.
I've watched the first two.
And this one, the third one, itkind of.
It just wasn't it for me.
It, it, I don't know.
Like I was more hoping on likedebating and the more I keep
(01:33):
watching these GOP debates, themore I'm like, this is not
really a debate.
This is more just like.
Old white people talking onstage that.
I guess I should care about.
After a GOP, then let's headover to, there's a lot of talk
about young voters, a lot andlead young voters like myself.
(01:55):
We turned out for Biden.
In 2020.
And.
A lot of them are starting tolike cast doubt.
Some of them are unsure whetherthey're on a vote for Biden.
Again.
There was also another articlewhich I'll bring in a separate
episode.
About black voters.
(02:16):
Are kind of on the scale of notvoting for five nine.
With how we're going to vote forthem because we're not voting
for.
The other guy who told us whenhe ran, you have no other
choice.
But I digress.
And then.
The only.
Black.
Candidate who was running forpresident for the GLP has
(02:38):
suspended.
His campaign, which as most ofyou guys know when they say
suspend, they truly just meansthat they're ending it.
I know why they just don't belike, I am ending Mike and pain
now he's suspending it.
Which I guess maybe that'sgiving some of his.
Sponsors or supporters hope thatmaybe he'll run again another
(03:02):
four years maybe who knows?
But.
I'm not shocked, Tim Scott,wasn't doing very good in the
polls and onstage.
I was hoping for a lot more.
So I want to talk about allthree of those right here on the
last conversation.
Microphone Array (Intelr Sm (03:20):
so, I don't know about you, but I.
Watch.
The GLP debates.
I usually, this is actually myfirst time watching.
These debates, usually I don't.
I watched a little bit whenBiden was running, I thought
that one was hilarious.
But this one, I was like, allright, we're going to watch it
(03:41):
because I want to make surethat, you know, I understand
these people are running.
So the first two, I was like,okay, you know, they're not bad.
But then the third one.
I was kind of like, Where is.
Like no one is truly standingout to me to be.
A Republican.
(04:03):
President right.
And I've never voted Republicanbefore.
But if I were, I would want oneof them to truly stand out
right.
And I'll give you my opinion ofwho I think stands out the most,
but I will also say that thisparticular person.
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There is a very slim chance thatthey will get the.
Nomination.
So moving on from that.
Abortion.
As we all know is a huge thingin our country right now.
We did an episode.
Of Roy V way when it was turnedover.
(04:45):
On our last podcast, which Paul,the conversation.
I will read posts that episodehere on the last conversation.
So you can see.
Exactly what was won on.
I remember I did that episode assoon as the Supreme court
overturned it.
And I, I, I did like anemergency episode, which I
(05:05):
usually never knew, but I, Ileft work.
And I just came straight homeand I like set everything up,
which we had a different setupthan.
And I just went straight intoit.
And now the question.
It's been an, every singleelection that we've had since
it's been overturned.
(05:27):
So the primaries, it was a hugething.
These special elections thatjust happened about a week ago.
It was always, it's always onthe ballot.
It's always on the ballot.
And the issue that Republicansalways face is that.
They just don't understand.
They, they say they know whatthe American people want.
(05:49):
But then it doesn't show, right?
Because a lot of them are stillsaying, oh, they're still saying
ban.
They're still saying.
They're saying the words thatpeople are still saying.
So in their minds.
Well, it's not really a ban, butessentially there's a band,
right?
And Democrats are using that totheir full advantage.
(06:11):
They're like, Hey, you'reRepublican.
People want to ban abortions.
They want to restrict what awoman can do with her body.
You have here in Florida whereit was 15 weeks and most of
everyone in Florida.
We're pretty.
Concise with it.
Are we were content with it.
It was 15 weeks.
(06:32):
You know, it's not the mostideal because a lot of doctors
who are smart and intelligenthave said that 15 weeks is still
not enough time.
Because most women are justfinding out that they were
pregnant within 15 weeks.
So it was 15 weeks here.
Here in Florida.
And then Santa is decided to bea complete jackass.
And turn it to six weeks and sixweeks struck a huge blow, right?
(06:57):
Because six weeks is, that's notthat's, that's like child's play
at that point.
And so every time you see him ona.
On a stage.
Or if you see him talking to.
Or quarter, like one-on-one.
They always say you created oneof the strictest abortion ones
because there's only a secondstate that also has six weeks as
(07:18):
well.
Some don't even have any weeks.
But with six weeks.
People are like, no, theAmerican people are like, no.
And then they asked him if hewould take that six weeks that
he did here in Florida and makeit a national.
And he said, yes, At obviously.
It's not going to go very wellfor him, the general, but that
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we're not even talking about.
That.
Essentially.
We're talking about the GOPdebate, which.
For the first 99 minutes oftheir debate.
They didn't talk about it, eventhough it is one of the biggest.
Topics.
Of the GLP it's going to be onevery single.
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Ticket from now until theSupreme court.
Says.
Okay.
Fine.
We will allow abortion.
At this many weeks under thesecircumstances that you, whatever
the case may be until it goesback to Supreme court.
Abortion will always be on everysingle ticket.
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And every candidate who wasrunning for a public office.
Even myself later.
In the years.
Needs to understand that thathow important it is.
So let's go into.
This one.
So unlike their last gatheringday, chaotics fumble up
(08:43):
interruptions, cross top to thedate.
Wednesday in Miami did hammeraway.
pOints of substance.
And while those blessings weresurely worth debating, even if
the candidates largely agreed ontop lines, like supporting
Israel, holding Hamas, I ranChina.
The effects was ultimatelydisordered.
(09:05):
If the GOP is going to take thatthe white house.
Why.
Knowing it, political hardnessstanding is in the way.
Considering the candidatesnarrow interest, it made some
sense, none of their views onabortion, which came out 20
minutes before closing time.
Our particular popular at themoment, taking together former
South Carolina, Nikki Haley.
(09:26):
Plea for consensus on the issuein South Carolina.
Sendbird.
Tim Scott and cysts on it.
15.
Federal ban echo.
Logic set forth by Virginiagovernor when young skin.
And the days and weeks beforehis state GOP colleagues came up
short in a high state flighterslegislative contest.
(09:46):
Abortion was the wasn't the onlydecisive topic they got short.
Shift in Miami, former presidentTrump to.
It was an afterthought for mostof the night after receiving a
few measure, jabs.
Early on and only at the POBlane of the men mediators.
Florida.
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Rhonda Santas summed up.
Argument against Trump sayingthat he is.
A different guy than he was in2016.
And like Haley suggesting theRepublicans not go chasing past
Laurie's.
The sense has.
He says the same.
Line.
Every single debate for the lastthree debates, he says the same
(10:30):
line when it comes to Trump.
Oh, if he wants your vote.
He should be on stage.
And that's the only thing hesays, the only person who has
been the most critical.
Of Trump has been ChrisChristie.
Now a lot of experts out there.
Have set, the reason why thesefive candidates have not
(10:53):
harshly.
Bashed Trump is because they.
Want to, they want thesupporters that Trump has to
come over to.
They're in pain.
Now you'll probably like we'llstep on.
If a bash and.
Will they not come.
Essentially.
Yes.
If you bash your.
(11:14):
Best for if you bash your bestfriend.
Do you think that your bestfriend's friends are going to
come over to your side and helpyou do whatever you're trying to
do?
Essentially now.
Right.
So.
In my view, they are tiptoeingaround the issue.
(11:34):
Trump is the issue.
You, I understand that you maywant.
Some of his supporters.
But.
Some of those supporters arelike, I call them at this point,
they're like all members, likethey are devoted to him.
So, but there are people inthat.
Holt that can be influenced tocome over to your side.
(11:58):
Right.
And that's the issue that thesefive tenets for present aren't
basic.
You have to attack.
Stop tiptoeing around him.
Stop saying insults, but they'renot really insults, like stop
saying, well, he should be here.
Obviously.
(12:18):
He hasn't been here for the lastweek.
Debates the scientist.
So stop saying he's not coming.
Right.
Every time you guys have it tobe.
He has another event thatreaches.
Pretty much the same amount ofaudience that you're the bait
has reached.
So you need to attack him.
Call him out for what he is.
(12:40):
Right.
That's the only way you're goingto have voters be like, Hey,
you're going to be a president.
Right.
It's going to go after peoplenot go after people.
Let me rephrase that.
It's going to stand up for us,right.
And until they attack him,They're always going to be
behind him.
(13:01):
I'm not saying attacking light.
Well now attack pretty much youhave.
Yeah, you have to do something.
You can't just keep saying thesesofter words out.
Oh, well, he should be here oryou have Nikki Haley saying,
well, he was a good presentthan.
But he's not the president thatwe need right now.
(13:22):
Like come on.
Just shit.
You got to do more.
But that topic.
Trump was like last, like theybarely talk about him.
Which.
You know, Is whatever.
At one point.
They started talking about.
(13:42):
Tik TOK.
And we'll, we'll talk about thatto the second.
So that who was also one of thecontenders was the lone
dissenter on that front.
Talking up his use of the app asa campaign tool while his rivals
play.
To bury it then effectivelycalling the Haley hypocrite
(14:03):
because her daughter uses it.
Understandably and frustrating.
The Haley told.
The vet.
She leave my daughter out of themouth before dismissing him as
scum.
Aye.
I thought.
That that was probably.
The best moment.
(14:24):
Of that entire debate.
And here's why I say that.
Is.
And like, and.
None of you guys really knowthis, but I, I like, I like
Hayley.
I probably would never vote forher.
But I like, I like, I, I.
Let me rephrase that.
I like that she's in acompetition.
(14:48):
Onstage.
I don't even know now.
Let me rephrase that.
At this very moment.
I cheer for Haley.
I was like, yes.
Do it girl.
Because it's about time that wesee someone just finally just.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Maybe you guys understand whatI'm trying to say, but at that
(15:10):
very moment, I was like, Haley,you did like, and some people
were like, oh, maybe sheshouldn't have said that.
And I was like, no, she saidexactly what most of us was
feeling.
Coming from a parent standardview and I'm not hearing them
just to Cod.
Maybe still.
I felt like you like.
Family's a low blow.
Now in a separate interview thatthat CNN did with him after the
(15:32):
bait, they, right.
Don't you think that's a lowblow and he's like, yeah, I
think it's a low blow.
And I think I should have.
You know, He.
Stayed with this stance, right?
I felt.
That it was a low blow that youshould not bring family into
politics.
And that even though herdaughter uses take top for
daughter is not integralcampaign.
(15:52):
Right.
If you saw Nikki using it, thenyou could criticize Nikki for
using the platform.
But her daughter is eight child.
And most children, or at leastall children use take top.
Right.
That's not.
Those two though.
Those are two, like apples,oranges that.
Are not equal.
(16:12):
So I thought it was fine thatshe called them.
Honestly, I thought she wouldprobably call them a different
word, but.
Scum was.
It was pretty good.
I thought it was like a nice,nice head-on, but I liked it.
Anyways.
Let's move on.
Formal New Jersey, ChrisChristie.
Trump's harshest critic on thecable is hardly registered.
(16:34):
Put another dent in hisreputation as a shroud or
occasionally.
Public speaker.
Here are these six takeawaysthat CNN poll for you.
One was the foreign policy.
On Israel's war on Hamas there,it was little disagreement
between the five candidates andthat their answers were often
quite similar.
(16:55):
IB Paulin.
Then be finished the job once.
And for all of these butchers,the census said, Referring to
Israel's prime minister by hisnickname.
The first thing I said to him,When it happened was I said,
finish them.
He really said.
tHere was a sharp division overwhether the United States should
(17:16):
continue to support you frame.
Against Russia is fresh.
Well that left.
No doubt where he studiedissuing a layby review on
Ukraine present.
Zelensky.
While accusing the war torncountry of harboring Nazis and
anti-democratic beliefs.
He goes on to say, to frame thisas some kind of battle between
(17:38):
good versus evil, don't buy it.
That's what VEC said.
Haley continued to tussle withthat outreach onstage said the
Russian president Putin andChinese leader.
Jim Payne were.
Salivating at the thought thatsomeone like that to become
president.
(17:58):
Christie agreed.
They go on to save.
Let's remember the last timethat we turned our backs on a
shooting war in Europe, perSEASET.
I brought it just, it brought usjust a couple years.
And then 500,000 Europeans werekilled in Europe to defeat
Hitler.
This is not a choice.
(18:19):
The sentence and Scott shiftedthe conversation from Ukraine.
To United.
Tonight at states and Mexicoborder and left out as to why
they believe us support for thecountry should continue.
We're not going to send our sonsand daughters.
Do you create Florida?
Governor said.
I'm going to send troops to oursuburb.
No comment.
No, just no comment.
(18:42):
Just, just like in the second,the date abortion concerns,
didn't make it to the front tothe first, more than 90 minutes
of the program this time though.
The inclusion was especiallynotable as it came a night after
Ohio voters in shrine, abortionrights in their state
constitution.
And Republican suffered defeatsin key races across the country
(19:04):
where the issue of abortion.
When the topic was finallybrought up, most of the
candidates help from what theirposition suggesting that they
had not been moved by Tuesday.
So results.
Scott stood on his calls for 15week federal ban while Haley
continued to push for a middleof the road approach.
She goes on to say that one morelooking at this.
(19:25):
There are some states that'sgoing to be pro-life side.
I welcome that.
There are some states going tobe pro-choice side.
I wish that wasn't the case,but.
The people decided.
Haley in my opinion is trying tobe the middle brown place.
Right.
So she isn't.
(19:45):
Far, right?
So she's not a, like a Trumper.
She's trying to be like thatmiddle ground present.
And I think it.
It's.
It's a hit or miss.
Honestly, it is.
Because.
I don't know.
It's I don't think, I think thecountry's ready for someone to
(20:09):
be middle ground, but they also.
You can be a Republican in themiddle ground.
You still have to get most ofyour base behind you.
And there are a lot ofRepublicans.
Not middle ground.
And they were on the right sideof a lot of issues.
So she's trying to be thatmiddle ground person.
Which could help her.
But it also could be her weeklytoo.
(20:30):
So it just depends.
On how things play out betweennow and.
And January, if her team canreally bolster that she is going
to be this bi-partisanpresident, right.
Because there have been surveysabout our country worked.
(20:50):
So if Congress was morebi-partisan.
And the country loves when weare bipartisan.
Right.
And we work together to achievethese types of goals.
Not every site is going to getwhat they want, but every site
gets something.
And the country.
Is more willing to go that routethen for Matt gates to shut down
(21:12):
our entire government system byousting.
McCarthy.
That three weeks of not having agovernment, people did not like
that bills did not get passed.
Legislations did not get passed.
People didn't honestly knowwhat.
I could do, or, you know, wehave the present.
(21:33):
Who's calling for certain thingsto happen.
That can't happen without afunctional government.
And so when things happen on.
Bi-partisan agreement.
People are more accepting ofthat because they're like, okay,
we got something done.
We're not just sitting on ourhands and our ass doing nothing.
(21:54):
People pay.
The people vote for theserepresentatives to go to
Congress, to make these lawsright, to help shape our
country.
And on a bipartisanship, thatmeans our country gets rolling.
So.
That's my little speech.
Moving on.
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UmDe Santase, meanwhile seemedto put Tuesday's losses at the
feet of anti-abortion groups.
Saying that they've been caughtflat footed on these.
Referendum.
Since the reversal.
Voters in states across thepolitical spectrum, including
Kansas, Michigan, California,Vermont, and now Ohio.
Voters have affirmed the right.
(22:36):
To an abortion in the ballotmeasures.
It's a stark reversal from thesecond debate.
When Santa said of the 20 2022election results, I reject the
idea that pro-lifers are toblame for midterm defeats.
So in this issue.
After the.
Anti-abortion groups and waslike, Hey.
(22:58):
You guys haven't been doing yourjob.
Obviously, these people arewinning the pro you know, pro.
Abortion.
Pro pro-choice.
And he's like you anti-people,aren't doing a.
You're flat-footed you should becampaigning more.
I don't necessarily think thatthat is.
One to help him.
When it comes to getting yoursupport, because they're going
to be like, what do you meanwe've been, flat-footed
(23:19):
obviously.
The people.
What this.
It goes on to say it.
Wasn't the only answer onabortion.
Which the census flipped.
After declaring at the Septemberdebate that he would sign up
bill to block the procedure.
After 15 weeks is present.
If it's reached his desk, thesentence went back to ducking
(23:40):
support for a federal ban.
I was not necessarily going todo it the same as Virginia.
So you've got to work for thebottom.
You got to work from the bottomup.
No one likes someone who's goingto keep changing.
You saw how.
We'll go from there.
Christie said Tuesday's results.
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We're what the constitutionalfarmers.
Wanted and what anti-abortionadvocates had hoped for and
overturning review, wait,letting the states decide.
He goes on to say that we havepeople running to say let's
short circuit, the states fromdoing what they need to do.
And let's go right to some typeof federal ban at a certain
(24:23):
number of weeks.
I think, and this is my opinion.
My opinion alone.
When the states decide.
That's what should happen?
I think, I don't think that thedecision was the greatest in the
(24:43):
world.
But we also did not see what wascoming about.
We did not see these states turnout in numbers to support
abortion.
Right.
And when Supreme courtoverturned it, I was like, man,
now it's back to the states.
It's just.
It's not going to work.
(25:06):
But.
Look at what we got, thesestates are choosing.
Especially some of those stateswho have very hard line
abortions.
Legislation.
Right.
So the people are deciding, no,we want these, we want these
rights, these rights are theconstitution they're enshrined
(25:26):
in being an American woman inthis country.
It shouldn't be in the hands of.
Men or the government of whatyou should be able to do.
With your body and it showing.
And now.
Republicans are kind of like,oh, We did not expect this to
happen.
So.
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The next topic that they talkedabout was China.
And I love talking about Chinabecause for some reason,
Everyone is like, well, China isthis and China is that.
You do realize that both of oureconomies.
Depend on each other.
(26:08):
Right.
Everything that isn't made herein America is made from China.
They get shipped over here.
So our economies depend on eachother.
So we have to have that workingrelationship.
I like to call it.
The.
I like to call it.
(26:28):
The brothers the United Statesin China.
Well brothers.
We're brothers that don't likeeach other we're brothers that
we do separate things.
And our separate households.
We may not like what our brotherdoes in their household.
They may not like things that wedo in our household.
But we have to work together.
(26:49):
In order for both of oureconomies.
To grow.
Right.
Biden just met with Jean ping.
There are Chinese presidentabout two days ago.
We'll do that.
We'll talk about that in anotherepisode.
But we have to have thatconsistent relationship with
them.
You know, it's us, China andRussia.
(27:10):
Probably the three most biggest,super excuse me, superpowers in
the world.
We have to have.
Working relationship with atleast one of them.
Right.
And our economy.
Kind of goes off of China.
Right.
They come over.
We get aro.
We get our technologies fromthere.
Phones from there we get.
(27:32):
Gaming systems from there, wehave tourism from both from both
ends.
So we're brothers.
We need each other.
We may not like what each otherare doing on our individual
sides.
But we need each other.
And I think some of theseRepublicans who are like, well,
Russ take it to China.
You can only stick it so muchbefore China says, well, fuck
(27:52):
you get your shit from somewhereelse.
And then these Republicanpresidents are going to be like,
well, what are else.
We don't wait.
We mate.
Things here in America.
But we don't make enough as ifwe're getting it from China.
We're getting money, abundanceof things.
Right?
So our economies depend on eachother.
(28:12):
So we need to work on that.
We need to build, I'm not sayingthat we need to be best friends,
but we need to be.
Causal.
We need to understand that a.
We need each other.
So we can.
Be able to have that friendship.
So that's another speech.
Sorry.
Anyway, so, but the scienceisn't Haley disagreed over
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China.
The sentence, criticized Haleyfor recruitment.
The Chinese fiberglass companythat comes to her state during
her tenure as governor.
Centers said she welcomed theminto South Carolina, gave them,
landed near a military base,wrote the Chinese ambassador, a
love letter saying that what agreat friend that they are that
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was.
Like they're number one way toan economy, to an economic
development.
In Florida.
I banned China from buying landin the state.
He continued, we kicked the.
Institutes out of ouruniversity.
We recognize the threat andwe've acted swiftly and
decisively.
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That's what he said.
Now as I just said, Oureconomies depend on each other.
They need us.
We need them.
bUt Haley wasn't given anopportunity to immediately
respond, but she didn't let thecritique slip by and later
attached to senses.
Own record through the stateeconomic development agency.
(29:39):
She says, yes, I bought afiberglass.
Company 10 years ago, the SouthCarolina, but Ron, you are the
chair of your economicdevelopment agency.
That as of last week saidFlorida is the ideal place for
Chinese businessmen.
And then the, that now.
Yeah, the get his littlefeathers in there.
(30:02):
Same as the sentence was correctto point out Hailey's previous
support for Chinese investment,but the entrepreneur went on to
criticize the Florida governorover ties to a donor.
Lobbied on behalf of the Chineseinvestment in the us.
That appeared to be a referenceto a poor set, the sentence
donor 10 Griffin, the CEO of thehedge fund.
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Citadel push to amend the billthat allowed Chinese nationals
to purchase property near.
Military basis.
In the us, the scent has denied.
The next.
Accusation.
We're going to take a quickbreak when we come back.
The Vivek wanted to throw blows.
(30:44):
And he threw blows everywhere.
Microphone Array (Intelr Smar (30:47):
I am happy that we took that break
because my laptop is about todie.
So Vivek decided that, you knowwhat?
Fuck it.
It's the third debate I'm goingto swing at.
Except for Trump.
During the first debate.
Vivek, called the otherRepublicans super pack puppets
at last months.
(31:08):
Semi valley, California advent.
He told it down, calling themgood people, tainted.
By broken.
System.
The question then.
Was which version would show upin Miami?
The.
Former debate kid or thedignified states.
The answer was clear.
Within minutes, the biotechentrepreneur came out, swinging
(31:30):
against the media.
Haley did the bait monitor themedia publican national
committee chair, woman.
Rona.
McDaniel.
DeSantis And Florida governorsboots.
Basically.
Anyone.
But Trump was Cherokee.
Asked why voters should back.
(31:51):
Over Trump.
He said error out a loud list ofRuden says first he blamed
McDaniel for the string oflosses.
Republicans have suffered since2017.
When she was elected RN share,but also notably.
Office and gave her an option tocome on stage and resign.
(32:12):
And then he blacks, the decisionto have NBC news, Lester Holt,
and Kristin.
Walker hosts the Salem radios,Hugh Wyatt.
I think about who's moderatingthis debate.
This should be, this should betougher.
Carson, Joe Rogan or Elon Musk.
He said before blasting thecorrupt media establishment.
(32:34):
On Israel.
He said that he would encourageIsrael prime minister, Benjamin
NAHU to smoke those terrorists.
On his Southern border while thepresidential candidate.
What the smoking materialist onour Southern border.
Who has sought to distinguishhimself as an American first
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candidate?
And I feel up.
Neo-cons.
Then, so that didn't Haley forher foreign policy Rhonda
centers who has battled thesespeculation over his boots, who.
The crossfire.
Do you want a leader on adifferent generation?
Who's going to put his countryfirst.
Or do you want Dick Cheney inthree inch?
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Feels.
We've got two of them.
Yeah.
You know, everyone's talkingabout his.
Or like starting up.
Like whole up.
Like boots were flattened on.
Anyways, what's your problem.
And who were the two people who.
You think?
Well, I wouldn't say who aregoing to drop out.
(33:37):
You think kind of fizzle.
Chris Christie and Tim Scott.
Now one could the forgiven forforgetting that Christie and
Scott were even on the debatestage.
Wednesday night.
The other three candidates weremore interested in scoring shots
at each other and seem to viewChristie and Scott.
As lagging too far behind in thepolls to spend much time on.
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There were only a few momentswhen Scott and Christie were
even addressed in one Haley, notto fellow South Carolina on
abortion.
After he said as present, hewould.
He was back a 15 week nationallimit.
On the procedure and IRD, bothto Sansa.
and Haley to agree with them.
Haley countered with, there arean anti-abortion bill sponsored
(34:22):
by South Carolina, LindseyGraham.
That Scott reframed fromsupporting.
And he's been Dade on hisposition on abortion.
Scott shot back.
That's just not true for themost part though.
Scott and Christie didn't reallyget into the fray and the other
three candidates were fine withthat.
(34:42):
Now.
Let's talk about it.
As we now, Tim Scott droppedout.
Chris Christie will probably bethe next to drop his.
His poll numbers are just notthere.
I think he's only staying afloatbecause he's the only.
Candidate, who was I just comingafter Trump, like, so he's going
to stay there.
(35:02):
And my personal opinion.
I think the back is going toeither drop out or.
Has pulled number one, other.
But I think RNC will probablyRNC in the pack.
We'll probably not support forthat anymore, which I think he's
doing most of the stuff on itsown anyways.
So he's not really going offthrough donations.
(35:24):
Who I'm really looking at isHayley.
Nikki Haley, I think.
That there is a slim chance thatshe could be a nominee, but at
the same time you have Santas.
So.
thEre's been a lot of debates ofwho could defeat Biden.
I think that Haley wouldprobably have a good chance.
(35:46):
And at the same time with howher poll numbers are.
How Ron's numbers are.
I think if Ron was the nominee.
I don't think he would want.
That's my person.
I think he's just, he's one ofthose people where, you know, he
enacted the first six week banand he stands by it.
He says that Florida is a statethat people should look at.
(36:09):
But honestly, Florida, isn'tdoing very good.
We would've had a lot of moneycome in doing summer.
And even over the winter timeswith a lot of big conventions,
But because of his war on Disneyhas policies.
That's politics.
They decided to not show up.
And that'll be happening for.
So.
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That's what I think.
Well, we'll keep an eye out forit.
Anyways, our next topic is youngvoters.
We'll be right back.
Microphone Array (Intelr Sm (36:38):
So.
Young voters.
We essentially to Biden to thefinish line.
I say that.
Because.
We did.
But those been.
I don't know, like, and youknow, they said this about Obama
is that during this time Obamapoll numbers were.
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We're low too, for his secondterm.
And now it's happening.
Bye.
And there was a lot of youngvoters who are.
I wouldn't say that they're not,they're not there, but they're
on that question.
So one young voter gave.
So.
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His side and was like, You know,we were excited.
And I think that's what we need.
Like we need.
More excitement for the campaignfor him running again.
I think.
You know, with the war in Israelwith crane.
Hobby Tonomys going with studentloan forgiveness.
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There's not a lot of excitementand a lot of young people.
Or feeling it.
So let's talk about it.
And I'll give you my opinion atthe end.
Of what I think.
By needs to do to start ignitingsome of those fires.
Let's go into it.
As Carrie Singleton looks aheadof the next presidential
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election, he's thinking back tothe excitement that he felt when
president Joe Biden and vicepresident.
I'm a Harris visit the historicgrounds.
Of Clark Atlanta university andMorehouse college.
He says, I remember the energythat was here on campus that
day.
he Stood in a crowd andapplauded the speech on voting
rights and democracy.
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And.
On that course.
Winter day in January, 2020, thepresident was closing in on his
first year in office andSingleton and others.
Any audience at high hopes?
Since then voting rightslegislation.
And the Congress, the Supremecourt rejected student loan
forgiveness, the high prices.
From food to housing are feelingthe economic anxieties that
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Singleton said.
Have come together to dampen hisenthusiasm for the pilot.
For the possibilities.
What the Biden administrationcould achieve.
He goes on saying that we're notexpecting them to make changes
overnight.
But I do think that people.
Or everyone is willing to holdthe administration accountable
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for some of these promises thatwere made, if they don't happen.
I don't think it's it's.
I think it's going to be a scaryelection.
For all those warning signsfaced and present a year before
the election.
Apart from the skepticism ofyoung voters is a high on list.
A spokesman for the Bidencampaign called the election
deeply.
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Deeply hardened for the youngpeople and pledged to build on
the strong turnout for youngvoters.
In the 2022.
Midterm elections yet.
A respectful resistance towardthe president comes alive in one
conversation after the other.
The deepest conversation.
Touching his age, he turns 81next week.
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The economy.
And Israel and Hamas.
His age, let's talk about it.
By the time he gets out, he'llbe like 85, 86.
Give or take.
Trump's not map.
So, yes, his age is.
Then we are all concerned abouthis age.
(40:13):
He jokes about his age, and onething.
And I'm going to just step asidefor one second.
I promise we'll get back tohere.
One thing that I do not likeabout them.
Right now is.
They.
It irritates me.
When.
They are.
(40:35):
Talking about replacing him.
Right.
Which if they wanted to replacehim.
That should have been a decisionyou do before.
He announces that he's wantingto reel.
He's willing to run again forreelection.
Do not do this while this man isin office right now, running.
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it is one of my biggest petpeeves with the party, because.
It kind of undermines thepresident, right.
It undermined.
You have these.
You have these Democrats?
Who are leaving their position.
To run for prison.
And it's like, dude.
I don't know what you're tryingto accomplish because at the end
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of the day, The end of the daygoal.
And this has been said, Is tothe feet, Trump.
Somehow some Mashable way.
We have to defeat this guy.
And if you have all these peoplerunning for office out of his
own party, It takes votes fromBiden.
You may get a few.
(41:37):
But then Trump gets up.
Because people are now dividing.
Right.
It's not a two, it's not twopeople.
It's one.
You already know who the nomineeis going to be.
It may change.
It may not.
But then you have like fiveother people.
We're also writing for eightdemocratic.
Precedent.
It kind of leaves people unsureof what's going to happen.
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And that's just my that's justmy side note.
I don't like it.
Because it doesn't help.
So his age is something thateveryone has talked about.
Yes.
He's old.
We all know he's old.
He's still doing the job right.
The other thing that they talkabout is the economy the economy
is, and I don't know why heattaches name to.
(42:22):
But he did and it's called by aneconomics.
And With the war on Ukrainethings and gotten expensive.
And now Israel.
And Ammas has many thingsexpensive to wars are expensive.
They have a drastic.
Effect on the economy.
Relationships.
Well, China don't meet theeconomy any better because
things are a lot more expensiveto get certain technologies to
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get certain products.
With the student loanforgiveness.
You know, I don't know.
I understand where the thoughtit's coming from.
And I appreciate what he'strying to do.
But I think a lot of youngpeople, you got understand that
the president just doesn't havethe power to just push it
(43:05):
through.
Right.
As you saw, he's tried pushingit through, so we have to give
him credit for something, right.
Because.
How am I says no, or he.
Or he's getting sued or whateverthe case may be.
But.
Certain things just don'thappen.
Overnight.
Certain things won't happen in acertain administration because
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you have a house that's run byRepublicans.
If the house was.
Nine by Democrats in the Senatewas run by Democrats.
We could push almost everysingle thing that Biden wants to
do.
And pass it.
But because the house isRepublican and the Senate is
Democrat.
There's only so much that he canactually push through.
(43:49):
Especially if the Republicansdon't agree.
You know, We're the minoritiesin the house.
If we have.
Full support of the house.
Then we could do whatever wewant.
That's something that we have tounderstand of how this
government works.
Let's move on.
If they can fund a war, they canfind the money to pay off her
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student loans said, RachelCarol.
Who cast her first vote forpresident for Biden.
The cost of living is way toohigh right now.
I don't think the economy reallycaters to young people.
Carol says she doesn't regrether vote for Biden.
Particularly given thealternative of Donald Trump, but
finds herself disappointed bysome of the white house.
Priorities.
(44:32):
They made a lot of promisesgoing into office and a lot of.
Those have not been met.
Carol said he graduated lastyear and works for a nonprofit.
At advocacy group, she says sheintends to vote for, by them
again, but worries about a lackof enthusiasm.
She sees among people, her age.
It is for Biden.
However, it's against Trump inthe same breath.
(44:55):
A lot of the times we're voting,unfortunately for the lesser of
two evils.
Kevin Munez, a spokesman for theBiden campaign said the election
will offer a.
Stark choice and a clearcontrast.
Next November.
If you can fund a war, you canfind money to pay off our
student.
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I am not the way I'm laughing isit's almost like those two
aren't even on the same.
Plainfield.
They're really not.
And some of you who watch orlisten, you're going to be like
Stefan.
What.
Are you talking about, or youmay disagree with me or you
might even agree with me.
But a war.
(45:37):
Is different from paying offyour student welcomes.
Remember that?
Your student loans.
You took those student loans.
The government did not say, Hey,take the student loan.
You took the student loan, soyou have to be responsible for
some of it.
But paying off all your studentloans and that's something that
(45:59):
never truly gets the, I mean, Ihave student loans too.
I'm paying them off myself.
But a war is completelydifferent.
Or is helping our ally.
And paying off your student loanis.
You know, we try, they tried andit got shot down.
So he can just keep trying andmaybe rework the words or
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whatever the case may be.
However Republicans are tryingto fit their own little 2 cents
in there.
But paying off your studentdebt.
Is not a priority.
Remember, it's your student thatyou got the student.
So.
Anyways.
Some of, you might think I'm anasshole for saying that, but
(46:43):
honestly, Like.
I don't, I, me personally, Ihave student loans myself.
I'm getting even more.
And I don't expect.
Need to pay off my studentloans.
I'll eventually paid them offwhen I'm like eight years old.
Anyways.
They go on to say that we'reworking hard to highlight how an
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extreme mega agenda woulddevastate the financial
security, safety and freedom ofyoung people.
He also added as Democrats didin 2020 and 2022.
We will meet young Americanswhere they, where they are and
earn their boats.
Instead.
Young voters were criticalcomponents of the presence.
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Victory, particularly here inGeorgia.
We're buying the feed at Trumpby 11,779 volts out of nearly 5
million cats.
Exit polls in 2020 show thevoters 18 to 29 made up 20% of
Georgia.
Georgia is a wet.
Electoral and the only state.
Of the top six battle rounds.
(47:44):
The percentage of young voters.
And see that the nationalSheriff's 17%.
Then by one Georgia voters back.
14 points up onto the exitpolls, but now a year before the
elections share res shows.
Far closer race or voters underthe age of 30, have split weigh
six for Trump and 44 for byte.
(48:06):
And that's according to a NewYork times and Sierra college.
Pole.
yoU've got to vote forsomething.
saId Georgia state, SenatorNevada.
Is parts Democrat who organizedvoters in 2020 to help build
Biden's winning coalition.
The first time around we fired.
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Donald Trump this time aroundand voters want to rehire Biden.
Then they want to, and they wantto see politics and they want to
feel like the issues they'reconcerned about.
Are being hurt.
Is on Perth and Muslim Americanwho last fall became.
Youngest woman elected toGeorgia Senate said rebuilding a
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democratic coalition has beenmore complicated.
Given the anger many youngvoters have expressed over the
administration's financialsupport for Israel in the
aftermath of October 7th,masker.
Israeli civilians by Hamasterrorists.
They don't want to feel.
Complaint and the funding of anongoing war.
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I think that young votersrecognize you can't bomb your
way to peace insecurity.
A Gibson, a senior Morehousecollege also recalled the
excitement of seeing BidenHarris visit campuses.
Last year, he said that Ian tendto support Biden.
But without the enthusiasms ofthe 40 years ago.
We're going into an electioncycle where we have to pick up
(49:30):
between two different people whoare very, very old in age.
I think that there should beother candidates that should
have emerged from a democraticparty to actually challenge
Biden.
Paul spoke.
Classmates.
He would see Biden past Bhutan.
He said to many Americanpoliticians.
(49:52):
To reboot, to retire, whichfeeds mistrust in the system.
My generation tries to tries notto play in age-ism.
But there are some really validconcerns buy and use 82 wants to
win reelection.
Exterior.
Trump would be 78 next year.
It's like, why would you evenwant to work when you reached a
certain age?
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I would enjoy the final years ofmy life in peace.
I think that brings a lot ofmistrust.
Another freshmen said that he isconcerned of softening.
Of support for buying them onmany young black voters,
particular men.
He feared a disinformationcampaign was at work when they
have undermined by sanding, buthe also believed voters were
(50:35):
eager for inspiration.
A lot of lap.
Response from young generationscomes because they want to see
that there is so hoped in.
But our out of the darkness.
Some of the biggestaccomplishments in the Biden
administration was frominfrastructure funding and the
lowering of prescription drugs.
Don't resonate as loudly andinterviews with young voters
(50:57):
childcare, affordable housing,abortion rights.
We're expresses for our biggerpriorities.
With biomed, the top of theticket, potentially facing a
rematch in the 2020 race.
Young voters say the burdenrests on him to deliver on its
promises and stir excitementabout his candidacy.
Not take their support forgranted.
I leave you this just as we holdTrump accountable.
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The Morehouse senior sob by.
Early last year, we hope byaccountable as well.
So.
Let's talk about it.
I think.
I agree with part of this.
What most of this, I believe theexcitement needs to become more
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excitement.
I remember watching, I didn't goto any of the campaigns, but I
remember watching it on TV.
I remember seeing.
Former president Obama.
Out there.
Campaigning.
And people love him now.
So I saw the excitement, thecampaigning.
The complainant in the middle oflight blocking off intersections
(52:01):
campaign.
In the middle of the streets.
I remember the excitement thatwe had.
And.
I believe that that excitementcan come back.
And I'm hoping that after theholidays, that excitement starts
up again.
My advice.
Would be for the Biden campaign.
(52:23):
To essentially.
We start.
When I mean by restart is that alot of young voters are going to
be your primarily are going to.
Are going to be turning out.
A lot of them turned out forbiting.
In the last election.
We need them to turn out again.
(52:43):
But you have to bring thatexcitement just because you won
the first four years, you haveto keep going.
And one message that we for ouryoung voters is that, as I've
said before, when you have adivided.
Government things do not getpast.
At all.
Right.
So you said childcare,affordable housing.
(53:06):
an Abortion.
As you have seen abortion hasbeen on every single ticket.
Which is good and that's all weneed to keep voting on.
That's how we make abortion apriority.
Affordable housing.
Is something that comes down toa state level as well.
And that's voting for peoplewho.
(53:27):
Who are, who their message is.
Hey, we need to put caps onhousing, right?
Cause right now in Floridahousing, Housing goes up about
20% every year, 20%.
It's not a lot, but 20% for, youknow, a one bedroom.
That was staying yet.
(53:47):
Maybe costed you.
When I lived down here.
You know, towards the early 2016and 17 housing was completely
affordable.
But because housing was going upevery 20 odd, 20% a year at
increased.
One bedroom now.
And the complex I live in iscurrently 16 on routers.
(54:07):
Right.
So in Florida, you need aroommate.
Otherwise you're going to beliving.
And, you know, you may not wantto live in that type of
environment.
So I definitely think that.
Those issues need to beaddressed.
And I think that on the campaigntrail, that's what he needs to
be doing is addressing theseconcerns.
(54:30):
Addressing the abortion beinglike guys, we are doing
everything we possibly can tomake sure that abortion is on
that ballot, but also giving itto the voters and being like you
guys make this stuff happenevery time there's election, you
hold these politicians and youtell them, Hey, look, this is
what we want.
And.
Show them the results.
(54:51):
Hey, it happened in Michigan.
It happened in Ohio.
This is what we want.
For childcare.
I believe we passed somethingfor child.
I believe they path.
I don't know why we say we theypass something for childcare.
I'd have to do my research.
I, I think, I think it's overnow, but childcare is also an
issue.
Having another childcare bill.
(55:13):
But as I've said before, andI'll say it again.
We are.
The minority in the house.
Right.
If we had complete control ofthe house, we could do
essentially anything we want.
At essentially anything, butessentially we could pass those
bills because we have themajority, but because we don't
have the majority in the house.
(55:34):
We're subject to what.
Now the Senate, we have theSenate, which.
They haven't been speculationsthat we may not have the Senate
next year, just depending on howthings are going.
But the election for Senate andCongress, I believe is next year
as well.
So young people make sure you'revoting.
For people you want to see ifyou, if you think childcare.
(55:56):
If you believe that childcare isthat important to you?
Vote for people who are going tosupport a childcare bill.
iF you want.
I wouldn't say equal housing,but if.
You want low housing, lowerhousing and cost like that.
You have to support people whoare going to be on that ballot
to do.
So anyways, We are way over ourtime when it nets and final
(56:19):
topic.
When I talk about is Tim Scottdiscontinuing his campaign for
president.
We'll be right back.
Yeah.
All right.
So last topic, and then we areclosing out.
We alright.
Currently 59 minutes.
Episode.
I told you it was going to be alot.
We had a lot to catch it up,obviously.
(56:40):
But.
Tim Scott, as you know, he wasthe only black candidate on.
On the GOP stage.
Has suspended his campaign forpresident and as most of you
now, When they say suspend, theyjust.
Are there any need?
Or I guess, I guess suspensionwould be like he's suspended
(57:01):
until the next presidentialelection.
Whenever.
That case may be.
Pence also dropped out to.
But here's what he said on Foxnews.
He says, I love America moretoday than I did.
I May 22nd, but when I go backto Iowa it will be not as a
presidential candidate.
I'm suspending my campaign.
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The announcement on Sundaynights of many of Scott's aids
and donors by surprise to peoplepost.
This campaigns that they werenot given advance notice, even
though it was becomingincreasingly clear, Scott was
facing the uphill struggle tobreak through.
To their GLP primary.
The super pat supporting Scottpulled its slate of television
ads in October.
(57:44):
And following last week's thirddebate decided not to make a new
investment.
Scott's presidential prospectsdimmed over the last several
weeks, beginning with thesuperpacs decision to pull ads.
Last month.
Scott's campaign set.
It's going Going all in on Iowa.
The fact to gain on hisprimarily rivals by targeting.
(58:05):
Nomination contest.
For the GOP calendar.
Scott.
Kept the decision to exit therace close.
His best people linked to hiscampaign said by the timing.
It was more surprising than theannouncements health.
His team had been worried aboutqualifying for the fourth
Republican debate.
Next month after being the lastcandidate to meet the donors and
(58:27):
pulling threshold.
To mate, I'm the third debate.
hE has been hoping a strongdebate performance with
jumpstart, his candidacy, buteven he can see that too.
Risers.
Or he concerned to at.
Alleys in advisers that ithadn't happened.
By leaving the race.
Now people chill closestcampaigns that they, he could
(58:47):
return to the Senate without anembarrassing finish in Iowa.
He reserves the possibility.
Of a future.
Presidential run.
And leaves without getting inthe crosshairs of Donald Trump.
Should the former presidentbecome the nominee.
Tim ran a optimistic and hopefulmessage, but that's not what.
The Republican basis, right?
(59:09):
Now.
There was more, but it's TimScott.
But he does say one last night.
I want to read it for you.
He says, I think the voters whoare the most remarkable people
on the planet have been reallyclear.
That they're telling me.
Not now, too.
I don't think they're saying.
(59:31):
Trey.
No.
But I don't think that they'resaying.
Not now what.
And so I'm going to respectvoters and keep working really
hard and look forward to.
Tim Scott.
At least, you know, He has thepresidential.
The date under his.
(59:52):
Not the date, but at least hehas the presidential contender
under his belt.
Now as a title.
You know, he ran for president.
And he suspended his campaignbecause he knew he was not doing
very good in the polls.
No one was really changing.
Tim Scott right now.
Anyways with that being said,Let's.
(01:00:16):
I wasn't going to stop and thendo another, but let's go ahead
and end with final thoughts.
Microphone Array (Intelr Sma (01:00:22):
So with final thoughts.
The GOP debate.
Showed us who is likely going tobe.
Obviously we know Trump ispolling very high right now, but
I think the next two options isgoing to be the Santas and
Nikki.
Haley.
I Think Nikki Haley can.
Get seconds.
(01:00:44):
But she needs to start not onlyattacking Trump, but she also
needs to start attacking thesentence for his policies.
For how he says everyone shouldlook at Florida of how well
we're doing when honestly we'renot.
And I think the abortion.
What she said on stage thatsheets to run with that.
As everyone keeps saying thatRepublicans are going to keep
(01:01:05):
losing because they don'tunderstand what Americans want.
They say, they know that we,what, what people want.
They're like, oh, well this iswhat the American people want.
And it's truly not.
So until they understand.
What the needs are.
They're going to keep losing.
So I think.
Haley has that advantage ofsaying what she did.
(01:01:27):
She needs to kind of pounce onit.
And these losses that they lostwith with a special election
that just happened.
She needs to see where thelosses are and see what she can.
I Think.
That young voters are going toturn out for Biden.
But I believe that Biden needsto start.
(01:01:49):
Running.
In a sense, his campaign needsto pick up.
We need to have that excitementthat we had in 2020.
So that means coming back out tocampuses.
That means.
You know, getting, getting thoseDemocrats who are, who can have
an upper.
So you have Obama have the shellout there.
Have those people who got usexcited before for you.
(01:02:13):
To do that again.
Understand where we are in theeconomy under, you know?
Yeah.
You're saying I understand, buttruly come out to the young
people and be like, well, Iunderstand where you've
struggled.
Okay.
These are the challenges that weare facing in order to get to
where we all want to be.
I think some young people needto understand that you need to
(01:02:35):
pay off some of your studentloan yourself and not try and
have them pay it off for you.
Because I didn't understand thatcontrast of student loans.
We have to, this is our ally.
We have to do this.
We have like, we have to supportUkraine.
So Russia doesn't think that ithas the power to just take over
another country.
Those things we have to dostudent loans.
(01:02:57):
It's kind of it's on the docket,but it's going to come a little
later.
That's something that we justhave to keep fighting.
In-house for.
And piece out Tim Scott.
It was nice.
Seeing, you know, a black faceon.
I shouldn't have said that itwas nice seeing a black.
African-American descentcandidate on the stage for
president.
(01:03:17):
It always is.
I'm running for these electedoffices, but as you said
yourself, I don't think the timeis right for a Tim Scott right
now.
Especially.
Maybe after we, after the wholeTrump thing and Biden's out of
office of his second term.
Then there's a possibility ofhaving a Tim Scott back onstage
(01:03:38):
and having more voice.
But I think suspending your, hiscampaign was a good decision
and.
You know, maybe he can helpNikki Haley and help her
campaign and see where they,where their weaknesses are,
where their strengths are.
And combined and maybe yOu candefeat Trump that way as well.
(01:03:59):
So, Anyways, that is.
Our entire episode.
Before I do leave, I want to.
Ah, what do I want to say?
First off, make sure you followus on our social medias.
That's going to be Instagram at,iamstephangarrison, or you can
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follow the podcast exclusively.
At thelast_conversation followus on Tik TOK at
[thelast_conversation] there aswell, because we're about to do
a video right after this video.
Cause we just got some breakingnews about your Santos, not
running for reelection.
Until then thank you for all thesupport and love that you guys
(01:04:42):
are showing for this podcast.
Whether it be.
Audio, whether it be on YouTube.
And I think it's phenomenal.
That's the first time we everposted our podcast on YouTube.
And so even though it's not alot of use.
I still love it.
Make sure you comment down belowin the YouTube episode of what
perks do you like, what you liketo see?
(01:05:03):
And hopefully you guys have afantastic Thanksgiving.
If I not see you guys or talk toyou guys.
And make sure you have afantastic Christmas or just have
a fantastic holidays in general,but I'll see you guys before the
holidays.
Right here.
On the last.
Humber station.
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