December 22, 2025 • 26 mins
Merry Christmas, Poddy Fam! 🎄
Today, we’re revisiting Tammy Hembrow - influencer turned entrepreneur, Forbes cover star, and AFR Young Rich List alum with nearly 17 million Instagram followers. Tammy started with just a $400 investment, grew Tammy Fit into a 3-million-download wellness app, and launched Saski, her 8-figure activewear brand worn by the likes of Hailey Bieber, Bella Hadid, and Jennifer Lopez. What a powerhouse!
There will be one more favourite repost next week, and then we’ll be back to regular programming on January 6th with a special New Year-themed episode, followed by a 5-part mini-series on How to Build Your Personal Brand in 2026.
Connect with us:Follow The Lazy CEO Podcast: @thelazyceo_podcastStay updated with Jane Lu: @thelazyceoFollow Tammy: @tammyhembrowSee what Saski is up to: @saski
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Welcome to the Lazy Ceo Podcast. I'm Jane Lou. I
escaped the corporate grind in twenty four and started my
own business, Choupo, a global nine figures online fashion brand,
and now I want to share my learnings here with
you every Tuesday, so join my conversations with the entrepreneurs
behind the iconic brands we all know and love. In
between interview weeks, you'll find me talking about hot topics
(00:29):
that fascinates me in the world of business and personal development,
alternating with help my Small Business episodes, where I deep
dive into a small business every month to help them grow.
And why the lazy ceo you ask, Well, give a
lazy person a problem, they'll find the simplest way to
solve it. Merry Christmas, potty fam. Hope you're all loving
(00:51):
your Christmas break. I'm probably currently sipping cocktails by the
pool in a holiday house and NUSA with the fan,
well actually the entire extent the family of my parents
and my in laws. So for now I am on
break and I'm sharing one of my favorite podcasts from
earlier in the show. Today, we're revisiting Tammy Hambra, influencer
(01:11):
turned entrepreneur, Forbes cover star, and air Far Young Rich
List alum with seventeen million Instagram followers. Timey started with
a four hundred dollars investment, grew tammy Fit into a
three million download wellness app, and launch Saski her eight
figure active for a brand worn by the likes of
Haley Bieber, Bellaha Did and Jennifer Lopez. What a powerhouse Anyway,
(01:34):
There will be one more favorite repost next week, and
then we'll be back to our regular programming on January
sixth with a special New Year's themed episode then follow
by and I am so so excited for this, a
five part mini series on how to build your personal
brand in twenty twenty six. You guys are going to
love this all right. For now, let's get into it.
(02:01):
It's great to see you again. Thank you so much
for joining the podcast. How is your day going so far?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Super super busy? Thank you for having me. By the way, You've.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Achieved so much. What did you want to be when
you grew up?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
When I was super young, I really wanted to be
like an actress, that kind of thing. I don't really
know why, I think just because it was sort of
like larger than life and seems like, I don't know, fun.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think I was too shy to end up getting
into that.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You do have the platform now, so kind of manifested it.
What was it like growing up?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So most of my childhood I lived in Crumbin Valley,
which is a little bit outside the Gold Coast, and
it's just like a really small community, lots.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Of hills and trees and.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Animals, and you know, it was very much a little
humble life that we lived with my dad and my
two older sisters, Amy and Emily. It was a very
fun child had lots of camping, lots of outdoors stuff.
We didn't have a lot of money, so found ways
to entertain ourselves. Our house we lived in it was
actually an old hall, so it wasn't even actually a house.
(03:13):
It was definitely an adventure and it was a lot
of fun though, and I honestly wouldn't change a thing
about that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
The whole place didn't even have walls.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We actually had tables that we would turn up on
their sides and hang like sheets and stuff to make
like bedroom.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm like, god, it's like a cubby house. It really was.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Thoughts for oroom.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh, that's also the yeah Bond memories. I was very similar,
like I didn't have any siblings. I remember like entertaining
myself at one point by just I started typing out
the dictionaries. Do you started a business degree? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I went to Bond UNI and started doing a Bachelor
of Business and I was majoring in marketing and I.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Absolutely hated it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I was like getting good grades and I was sort
of good out regurgitating the knowledge I was learning, but
I feel like I wasn't actually like soaking anything in
because I just wasn't really interested in most of it.
And then I remember I had entrepreneurship as an elective
and I just absolutely loved it, and I was like
this is for me. I dropped out Uni. I was
(04:19):
like I don't need this anymore. I know, like I'm
gonna end up being my own boss.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Love that because I think it's like it is just
so theoretical. I did business too, and I didn't do marketing.
And I'm almost glad that I didn't do marketing as
a degree because then it made me jump onto social
media because I wasn't tied down to like traditional like
whatever they teach you. Thinking like that was the only way,
like it's moved on so much from whatever you learn,
(04:43):
But then it's great, it gave you that foray into entrepreneurship.
So which point did you start growing your Instagram account?
Because you have almost eighteen million followers, Like that's almost
the population of Australia.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I've been on social media for so long now. I
was probably around nineteen ish. I just started posting glimpses
of my life. It wasn't like it wasn't a huge
thing at the time, like Instagram and all of that.
I started getting into fashion a bit, so I was
posting a bit of that, and that's when I was
getting to finish.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I started posting bits of that and.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Then I started just getting more and more followers, and
I was like it was just crazy to me. And
I remember I had like fifteen thousand followers or something.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I was like, this is insane.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
The most public speaking I've done is like five thousand people,
and you're like shitting yourself. Actually, you post an instance
story mind spent to yours, but like that amount of reach,
it's insane.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, it's crazy, But.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Even fifteen thousand, if you think about that many people,
I'm an eighteen million. But how does it feel now
to have like that much influence?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It can be a bit daunting because, like, to me,
I'm so normal, and it's a bit daunting feeling like
I'm like influencing sort of all these people don't listen
to everything that I say, you know what I mean, Yeah,
because I'm just like the most like regular person, like obviously,
like I make mistakes, I'm not nowhere near perfect. So
(06:10):
it can be quite overwhelming sometimes to think that there's
so many people watching every single thing that I do.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I love your story of like when you fell pregnant
at nineteen that people told you that your life was ruined,
but you actually embraced it, and like that's kind of
kick started your part of your career.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
One of my best friends even said, like your life
is over, like you ruined your life all this stuff.
And I'm someone who, like if someone tells me something,
I like become determined to prove them.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Wrong or like it. I'm a little bit defiant and
a little bit stubborn like that.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So I just was really like, you know what, I'm
going to show that I can, you know, do what
I want to do, and I can carry myself a
certain way and I can, yeah, be whatever I want
to be.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So I was dressing up peeves.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think in my first pregnancy, I wore heels for
want every single day, and.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I got super into fashion.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I was obviously training NonStop, and I was just sharing
all these aspects, being like, my life isn't ending just
because I'm nineteen and pregnant.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I mean I felt pregnant in my thirties. I just
thought it would be like I'll be on the couch,
I'm able to move, and I felt like I almost
gained this like second win. I was like loving myself
sick and feeling more like having this new appreciation for
my bodies. Did you find that?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, definitely. I loved being pregnant. It was great and
I felt like pretty much the same as I did
before I was pregnant. I was like, yeah, I didn't
have any like morning sickness or things like that, So no,
it was good. I pretty much just carried on what
I was doing and focused on like my social media
and my fitness programs and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I love how you embraced it and just made
up part of your brand. And when they say is
like what they would say is a negative, you turn
it into such a positive.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I think people liked following along journey to sort of see,
she's young and pregnant, but she's not this stereotypical what
people would usually be saying about someone in my situation.
So I was just trying to bring people along in
that journey and show them that you can be however
you want to be.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
What advice do you have for our listeners who are
trying to build a personal brand and trying to grow
their social media accounts.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I think my top advice would probably be to be
yourself because obviously everyone is different. There's unique things about
every single person, so try and bring your own personal
self into your own personality. And when it comes to
social media, obviously you want to be either entertaining, you
want to be teaching something, you want to be inspiring something.
(08:45):
So you need to try and also fit into one
of those sort of categories to be offering your followers something.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So you turn a four hundred dollar investment into a
thirty eight million dollar empire with Tammy fit, So how
did you do it?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I started with four hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I spent that on illustrations for my PDFs that I
was making, and I did not know how to use
photoshop anything.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I spent so many nights trying.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
To put these PDFs together because I knew that, like,
I had an audience that wanted it, and I was
just trying to, you know, figure out how to give
them something that they could purchase and have and use.
Took me a while to get there, but then once
I started selling those, then I used the money from
that to.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Start developing my app.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
With the app, I just got into that because I
wanted to offer more value. I wanted to give everyone
a place they have their programs, their meal plans that
are everything in one place.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Sort of just snowboard from there.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And I think as well, my pregnancy journey had a
lot to do with how its snowboard, because everyone was like, Okay,
you can be working out, you can be fit while
you're pregnant, you can be fit after pregnancy, or that
kind of thing. So yeah, a sort of just all
snowball from that, and it was a world bride.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It really does show that, like you don't need your
initial product to be perfect. Is that saying that, Like,
if you're not embarrassed about your first product, then you
started to developing an app takes a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, a lot of time, a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, let's just go into a validate that this is
what my followers want, and they clearly did, and it
helps you improve the launch of the app by having
already a product in the marketplace.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I really just wanted to try and start like with
what I had and give them something.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
What were the biggest hurdles you had to overcome in
those early days of starting tammy Fit.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Well, obviously my just initial things with like figuring out
how to even like set up a company, or the PDFs,
like figuring out how to put them together, like all
those little things. And I also was having sleepless nights
because the wolf was a baby. But then after that,
when I started developing my app, I actually had some
issues with different suppliers and people developers that we're working
(11:01):
with and ended up being taken advantage of. So I
think I was very too trusting and a bit naive
in some senses when I first started out. Not everyone
always has your best interests, So I've definitely learned from
that to be a lot more wary with do I
work with and.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
So that was, Yeah, a bit of a hurdle was
losing quite a bit of money with someone that we
were working with.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Getting screwed by like some service provider is like part
of the process you're going to get everyone's going to
get screwed by someone in order to not get screwed
by more, because at some point I feel like it's
part of the hazing process of having a business.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, definitely, it's definitely like something to learn from.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
What surprised you the most about having a business.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Probably like all the moving parts that go into it,
Like how much is going on behind the scenes. There's
so much that goes into everything. Everything was sort of
a learning process, learning as I went along, like oh
I need this, and I need that, and I need
this and all these different moving parts that put it
all together.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Community engagement seems to be really important for you, and
you have a supers to be engaged community. What are
some of the things that you do to nurture your.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Community, trying to offer something a bit different, trying to
stand out a bit when it comes to tell me fit.
We have online Facebook groups that we have thousands and
thousands of women in and they all are supporting one
another and it's just like it's such a little tight
knit community now.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I absolutely love to see it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So just doing things like that when it comes to
my social media obviously, trying to respond to different comments
or dms and things like that, I feel like there's
so many different things you can do to sort of
try and build up that strong sense of community.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, I can see that. And that's the thing about
the Facebook group. I think it's like, it's great when
it's like it doesn't need to just all come from
you and your team community managers. It's like when the
community can run itself and people are supporting each other
within the group. That's I think where like the magic is.
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(13:47):
Every time I have I get pregnant, I get this
second wind of energy.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I don't know what I was thinking going straight into
that with a toddler and a newborn, but I had
this energy.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I had this passion.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I was like itching for it, and I was like
already doing my app and all of that, and I
was wearing active where every day. So I was like,
I just want to do my own brand because I
also loved fashion.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So that's where Savski was born.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
What was the process in getting it to life?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Just learning how to even run a clothing brand, Like
I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Really, it was definitely a learn as you go process.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I got my sister Amy to move from Sydney to
come help me start it because she's very I'm like
more their creative mine and she's very organized and onto it,
and that is like what I needed. So she helped
me start it and we started out of my home
office and when we first started selling the clothing, I
(14:47):
had like all my family members like cousins and my
brother in law and all these different people helping me
like pack the orders and all of that.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So yeah, it was just learn as you go.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Really, those initial hassle like days, we had to rely
on friends and family because you don't know how much
staffing or like resourcing you need. You just like get
everyone involved, just like roll of their sleeves and get
it done. But then you fired your sister.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yes, as Saski grew, I feel like me and Amy
sort of started budding heads because she's my older sister
and she sort of, I don't know, it wasn't the
biggest fan of me sort of being her boss, Like
she likes to tell me what to do, and then
I like to tell her what to do.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So then we were just like clashing a bit.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And also I feel like she wasn't as passionate about
Saski as I was and am. So it just got
to a point where we were just arguing so much
that we just thought we.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Can't work together anymore on this.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Our sister relationship was so strained at the time, and
then once she stopped working for Saski. Now we are
so so close, like couldn't be closer.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So it was definitely the best decision.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I had a girl that sata Chopa with me, and
obviously it's like awkward when your first part ways and
now like she's still one of my closest friends, and
it's over letting friends, and this is a difference. It's
nice that the relationship is strong and not long term strained.
For people who do work with like family, lots of
like people work with their partners and working with friends,
a lot of friends work for you. Any advice for
(16:18):
like when things do get awkward is trained.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I have some of my best friends working for SASKI,
and I just feel like you sort of have to
keep trying and keep your friendship and your work relationship
sort of separate, which can be easy. Said that done,
if we have issues in the office, we don't take
it outside the office. I'm lucky enough that we rarely
even have any issues ever.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So with Saski, you actually massively oversold when you first
launch a label. How did that happen? How did you
feel and how did you deal with it?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I mean, obviously it's sort of a good problem to
have But it was really really stressful because like, to me,
I just know, like this was my first impression of
my brand, and I knew like I didn't want to
disappoint all these.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Customers that had made these orders.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So I was just thinking, like what can I do
to try and make the situation a bit better. So
I ended up going through and sitting down with my
sister and we just went through every phone number, and
I was calling these numbers personally just to ask people
if either they wanted a refund or if they wanted
to wait a couple of weeks so we could fulfill
the order, but to just basically say that we didn't
(17:28):
have that order, and most people were super like obviously
happy to hear from me, and everyone was super like
nice about it. It was really stressful though, Like I
think me and my sister both cried that day.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But I love hey handle that because it shows a
real commitment to the customer and the commitment to be
if you're calling, you're like, definitely we'll be delivering next time,
Like we'll get it sorted because definitely don't want to
call back, and the second time we'd be like, oh,
we've done it again. So it really shows so much commitment.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
No, yeah, I didn't just want to send out like
emails to everyone, and I just wanted to try and
make it a bit more personal, to sort of make
people understand like I'm so sorry, but like we're gonna
get you your order.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And now you've had collections sell out in ninety seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's been an unreal ride.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Some of our collections that have sold out so quickly,
will just all be like screaming in the office.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
How do you do it? I want to know we
haven't done that show.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Bro tell me every collection is sort of quite exclusive,
like we'll do a collection once and then it's like
it's never coming back. Like occasionally we'll restock certain things.
But I think because it's just like that one collection
and you get it before it sells out or it's
gone forever kind of thing. So I think that definitely
makes people feel that urgency like they want to get
(18:43):
it before it's gone.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Throughout your business journey, what's been like the toughest time
that you've been through, like your career in social media.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
When it comes to my social media, I definitely feel
like just being like scrutinized and so much, and like
all the trolls and all of that. That has definitely
probably been like the hardest thing to sort of deal with. Obviously,
I'm at a point now where I've been doing it
for so long, so I have grown a very thick skin,
and i am very used to it now, so I'm
(19:13):
good at sort of ignoring it and just brushing it off.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
In the beginning especially, that was really really tough to
deal with.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Do you feel a bit more unfazed by it all now?
But it would be just so hard to be in
the public eye, Like anything you do comes under yeah,
like you.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Said, scrutiny, yeah, And it's like half the time the
like articles and things like that are just complete made
up stories. Like it's stuff that I'm like, what, like
it's just crazy, or like I'll say something and they
take like one sentence and like make it into a
headline where it's completely out of context, or things like that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I'm like, it's overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Never go into like and read daily mail comments. I
actually had negative comments and I was like, oh, wow,
I've made it. I feel like when you're small, everyone's like,
oh because of this tall probably syndrome. People are very like,
it's on you, and I'm like, oh, negative feedback. I've
made it.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I've banned myself from reading any daily mail comments ever, like,
you'll never catch me reading those comments. When I used
to read some of them, it just blew my mind.
But then you think about it and you're like, who
is sitting at home like commenting something so nasty about
someone they obviously don't really know anything about.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
On this random article that's probably not even factual.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
How do you split your time between social media, building
your brand and then managing two businesses.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, it can be really, really overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I struggle with this too.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Monday to Friday.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I make sure I do not really work on weekends,
Saturday and Sunday. I'm not answering work calls, I'm not
responding to any like work text or emails, like that
is my time to do stuff with my families, do
what I want to do when it comes to running
the businesses. And my two older ones are in school,
so they're at school Monday to Friday. But Posy so
(20:59):
young still, so I usually bring her to the office
almost every day on the time she isn't with her dad,
so that's getting interesting because she's getting to toddler terrible
two's age is coming up.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So that's been fun.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Such a hard age. I've got a fourteen month old
and a three year old. The firty month old just
like walking but then can't communicate. I'm like, what do
you want? It's just this is so had. Yeah, essentially
got five kids now, all wanting your attention with the businesses, Like,
how do you prioritize?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
My kids will always be my first priority. Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Because my businesses are such like a passion of mine
as well, so I want it. Like, sometimes I do
feel like I'm being pulled in twenty different directions and
I want to sort of give my all to everything.
I feel like it changes, and you sort of have
to go with the flow of like the different stages.
Like sometimes a certain business will need more of my attention,
so I'll be putting more focus into that, or sometimes
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I just want to take a step back and focus
on my kids more. I feel like I just go
with the flow and like, what really is needing me
most of the time?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
What are the business challenges you're currently facing?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Obviously it's the crazy cost of living at the moment,
everyone's being a bit more reserved with their spending. I
think that would be the main one. And some markets
are very saturated. A lot of people are trying to
do similar things, so you have to try and think
outside the box a bit more and try and stand
out a bit more.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Do you find that you have an advantage of like
understanding social media, being social media lebed, having such a
big following to leverage on.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, definitely, I am, like my own marketing, I am
fortunate that I have a massive following already.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So yeah, that's super super beneficial.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Like you've probably have more reach than certain like publications
that have like a whole company working for them, well
you know something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, No, it's definitely definitely beneficial.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Just in case you're not busy enough, You've written a book.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
So it is called Show Up and it's pretty much
just my sort of tool kit about every sort of
aspect in life, and just like it's sort of a
bit of motivation, a bit about my own personal story
and my own journey and things that I've been through,
and yeah, there's different sort of activities to get you thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
And yeah, I've.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Been working on it for quite a while now, So
I'm excited that it's finally here, very very exciting. It's
sort of like a pinch me moment for me. How
long did that take you to write over a year?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
It must be just like so hard to sometimes like
you've got the ideas, but to actually get pen to
paper to get the ball rolling.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, it feels very surreal that it's finally here.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And love the name. That's what it's all about. It's
just like it's just about showing up.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, it's not about being perfect, it's not about getting
everything right. It's about, you know, just showing up for yourself,
for the people around you, for your business.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
What else is next? Do you have like a million
ideas going and you have to choose and say no
a lot to yourself?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I feel like I always have so many different things
I want to do and I'm like, no, I need
to pull back. I need to like choose like the
next thing, not like so many different things.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
But yeah, there is a few things.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
In the works at the moment that I'm really excited about,
but I can't really share on those.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
What do you do for yourself to unwine?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'll love to just.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You know, like have a night binge watching Netflix something
like that.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I love to just go for a swim in the ocean.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Like the other day, I had a bunch of meetings
and I felt super overwhelmed in stress, and I just
went to the beach and jumped in the ocean for
five minutes, and it just like resets me.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So I love going to the beach. I also love.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Having just on the weekends, I'll have a lot of
my family over and we'll just have wine and cheese, clutters,
and just like I love to just relax like that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So yeah, there's definitely some of my like go to
things to do for me.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You've turned four hundred dollars into a thirty eight million
dollar business. I think that is just like such a
incredible story and inspirational for everyone. What is your advice
to other entrepreneurs?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I think my number one advice would definitely be something
I learned all those years ago in that entrepreneur class
that I loved. It would just be to start with
what you have and do what you can where you are.
I feel like it's so important to not just wait
for like the right time, wait for more money, wait
for this, and that I feel like it's so important
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to just start start where you can do what you can.
The best way forward is to start taking steps.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So yeah, that's probably my number one advice to give.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
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Catch you next Tuesday.
Welcome to the Lazy Ceo Podcast. I'm Jane Lou. I
escaped the corporate grind in twenty four and started my
own business, Choupo, a global nine figures online fashion brand,
and now I want to share my learnings here with
you every Tuesday, so join my conversations with the entrepreneurs
behind the iconic brands we all know and love. In
between interview weeks, you'll find me talking about hot topics
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that fascinates me in the world of business and personal development,
alternating with help my Small Business episodes, where I deep
dive into a small business every month to help them grow.
And why the lazy ceo you ask, Well, give a
lazy person a problem, they'll find the simplest way to
solve it. Merry Christmas, potty fam. Hope you're all loving
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your Christmas break. I'm probably currently sipping cocktails by the
pool in a holiday house and NUSA with the fan,
well actually the entire extent the family of my parents
and my in laws. So for now I am on
break and I'm sharing one of my favorite podcasts from
earlier in the show. Today, we're revisiting Tammy Hambra, influencer
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turned entrepreneur, Forbes cover star, and air Far Young Rich
List alum with seventeen million Instagram followers. Timey started with
a four hundred dollars investment, grew tammy Fit into a
three million download wellness app, and launch Saski her eight
figure active for a brand worn by the likes of
Haley Bieber, Bellaha Did and Jennifer Lopez. What a powerhouse Anyway,
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There will be one more favorite repost next week, and
then we'll be back to our regular programming on January
sixth with a special New Year's themed episode then follow
by and I am so so excited for this, a
five part mini series on how to build your personal
brand in twenty twenty six. You guys are going to
love this all right. For now, let's get into it.
(02:01):
It's great to see you again. Thank you so much
for joining the podcast. How is your day going so far?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Super super busy? Thank you for having me. By the way, You've.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Achieved so much. What did you want to be when
you grew up?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
When I was super young, I really wanted to be
like an actress, that kind of thing. I don't really
know why, I think just because it was sort of
like larger than life and seems like, I don't know, fun.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I think I was too shy to end up getting
into that.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You do have the platform now, so kind of manifested it.
What was it like growing up?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
So most of my childhood I lived in Crumbin Valley,
which is a little bit outside the Gold Coast, and
it's just like a really small community, lots.
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Of hills and trees and.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Animals, and you know, it was very much a little
humble life that we lived with my dad and my
two older sisters, Amy and Emily. It was a very
fun child had lots of camping, lots of outdoors stuff.
We didn't have a lot of money, so found ways
to entertain ourselves. Our house we lived in it was
actually an old hall, so it wasn't even actually a house.
(03:13):
It was definitely an adventure and it was a lot
of fun though, and I honestly wouldn't change a thing
about that.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
The whole place didn't even have walls.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
We actually had tables that we would turn up on
their sides and hang like sheets and stuff to make
like bedroom.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
I'm like, god, it's like a cubby house. It really was.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Thoughts for oroom.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Oh, that's also the yeah Bond memories. I was very similar,
like I didn't have any siblings. I remember like entertaining
myself at one point by just I started typing out
the dictionaries. Do you started a business degree? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
I went to Bond UNI and started doing a Bachelor
of Business and I was majoring in marketing and I.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Absolutely hated it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
I was like getting good grades and I was sort
of good out regurgitating the knowledge I was learning, but
I feel like I wasn't actually like soaking anything in
because I just wasn't really interested in most of it.
And then I remember I had entrepreneurship as an elective
and I just absolutely loved it, and I was like
this is for me. I dropped out Uni. I was
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like I don't need this anymore. I know, like I'm
gonna end up being my own boss.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Love that because I think it's like it is just
so theoretical. I did business too, and I didn't do marketing.
And I'm almost glad that I didn't do marketing as
a degree because then it made me jump onto social
media because I wasn't tied down to like traditional like
whatever they teach you. Thinking like that was the only way,
like it's moved on so much from whatever you learn,
(04:43):
But then it's great, it gave you that foray into entrepreneurship.
So which point did you start growing your Instagram account?
Because you have almost eighteen million followers, Like that's almost
the population of Australia.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
I've been on social media for so long now. I
was probably around nineteen ish. I just started posting glimpses
of my life. It wasn't like it wasn't a huge
thing at the time, like Instagram and all of that.
I started getting into fashion a bit, so I was
posting a bit of that, and that's when I was
getting to finish.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
So I started posting bits of that and.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Then I started just getting more and more followers, and
I was like it was just crazy to me. And
I remember I had like fifteen thousand followers or something.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And I was like, this is insane.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
The most public speaking I've done is like five thousand people,
and you're like shitting yourself. Actually, you post an instance
story mind spent to yours, but like that amount of reach,
it's insane.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Yeah, it's crazy, But.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Even fifteen thousand, if you think about that many people,
I'm an eighteen million. But how does it feel now
to have like that much influence?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
It can be a bit daunting because, like, to me,
I'm so normal, and it's a bit daunting feeling like
I'm like influencing sort of all these people don't listen
to everything that I say, you know what I mean, Yeah,
because I'm just like the most like regular person, like obviously,
like I make mistakes, I'm not nowhere near perfect. So
(06:10):
it can be quite overwhelming sometimes to think that there's
so many people watching every single thing that I do.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
I love your story of like when you fell pregnant
at nineteen that people told you that your life was ruined,
but you actually embraced it, and like that's kind of
kick started your part of your career.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
One of my best friends even said, like your life
is over, like you ruined your life all this stuff.
And I'm someone who, like if someone tells me something,
I like become determined to prove them.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Wrong or like it. I'm a little bit defiant and
a little bit stubborn like that.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
So I just was really like, you know what, I'm
going to show that I can, you know, do what
I want to do, and I can carry myself a
certain way and I can, yeah, be whatever I want
to be.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
So I was dressing up peeves.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
I think in my first pregnancy, I wore heels for
want every single day, and.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
I got super into fashion.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I was obviously training NonStop, and I was just sharing
all these aspects, being like, my life isn't ending just
because I'm nineteen and pregnant.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
I mean I felt pregnant in my thirties. I just
thought it would be like I'll be on the couch,
I'm able to move, and I felt like I almost
gained this like second win. I was like loving myself
sick and feeling more like having this new appreciation for
my bodies. Did you find that?
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Yeah, definitely. I loved being pregnant. It was great and
I felt like pretty much the same as I did
before I was pregnant. I was like, yeah, I didn't
have any like morning sickness or things like that, So no,
it was good. I pretty much just carried on what
I was doing and focused on like my social media
and my fitness programs and stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I love how you embraced it and just made
up part of your brand. And when they say is
like what they would say is a negative, you turn
it into such a positive.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I think people liked following along journey to sort of see,
she's young and pregnant, but she's not this stereotypical what
people would usually be saying about someone in my situation.
So I was just trying to bring people along in
that journey and show them that you can be however
you want to be.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
What advice do you have for our listeners who are
trying to build a personal brand and trying to grow
their social media accounts.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
I think my top advice would probably be to be
yourself because obviously everyone is different. There's unique things about
every single person, so try and bring your own personal
self into your own personality. And when it comes to
social media, obviously you want to be either entertaining, you
want to be teaching something, you want to be inspiring something.
(08:45):
So you need to try and also fit into one
of those sort of categories to be offering your followers something.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
So you turn a four hundred dollar investment into a
thirty eight million dollar empire with Tammy fit, So how
did you do it?
Speaker 2 (09:03):
I started with four hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
I spent that on illustrations for my PDFs that I
was making, and I did not know how to use
photoshop anything.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
I spent so many nights trying.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
To put these PDFs together because I knew that, like,
I had an audience that wanted it, and I was
just trying to, you know, figure out how to give
them something that they could purchase and have and use.
Took me a while to get there, but then once
I started selling those, then I used the money from
that to.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Start developing my app.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
With the app, I just got into that because I
wanted to offer more value. I wanted to give everyone
a place they have their programs, their meal plans that
are everything in one place.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Sort of just snowboard from there.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
And I think as well, my pregnancy journey had a
lot to do with how its snowboard, because everyone was like, Okay,
you can be working out, you can be fit while
you're pregnant, you can be fit after pregnancy, or that
kind of thing. So yeah, a sort of just all
snowball from that, and it was a world bride.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
It really does show that, like you don't need your
initial product to be perfect. Is that saying that, Like,
if you're not embarrassed about your first product, then you
started to developing an app takes a lot of time.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Yeah, a lot of time, a lot of money.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Yeah, let's just go into a validate that this is
what my followers want, and they clearly did, and it
helps you improve the launch of the app by having
already a product in the marketplace.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
I really just wanted to try and start like with
what I had and give them something.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
What were the biggest hurdles you had to overcome in
those early days of starting tammy Fit.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Well, obviously my just initial things with like figuring out
how to even like set up a company, or the PDFs,
like figuring out how to put them together, like all
those little things. And I also was having sleepless nights
because the wolf was a baby. But then after that,
when I started developing my app, I actually had some
issues with different suppliers and people developers that we're working
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with and ended up being taken advantage of. So I
think I was very too trusting and a bit naive
in some senses when I first started out. Not everyone
always has your best interests, So I've definitely learned from
that to be a lot more wary with do I
work with and.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Things like that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
So that was, Yeah, a bit of a hurdle was
losing quite a bit of money with someone that we
were working with.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Getting screwed by like some service provider is like part
of the process you're going to get everyone's going to
get screwed by someone in order to not get screwed
by more, because at some point I feel like it's
part of the hazing process of having a business.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Yeah, definitely, it's definitely like something to learn from.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
What surprised you the most about having a business.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Probably like all the moving parts that go into it,
Like how much is going on behind the scenes. There's
so much that goes into everything. Everything was sort of
a learning process, learning as I went along, like oh
I need this, and I need that, and I need
this and all these different moving parts that put it
all together.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Community engagement seems to be really important for you, and
you have a supers to be engaged community. What are
some of the things that you do to nurture your.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Community, trying to offer something a bit different, trying to
stand out a bit when it comes to tell me fit.
We have online Facebook groups that we have thousands and
thousands of women in and they all are supporting one
another and it's just like it's such a little tight
knit community now.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
I absolutely love to see it.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
So just doing things like that when it comes to
my social media obviously, trying to respond to different comments
or dms and things like that, I feel like there's
so many different things you can do to sort of
try and build up that strong sense of community.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Yeah, I can see that. And that's the thing about
the Facebook group. I think it's like, it's great when
it's like it doesn't need to just all come from
you and your team community managers. It's like when the
community can run itself and people are supporting each other
within the group. That's I think where like the magic is.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
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(13:47):
Every time I have I get pregnant, I get this
second wind of energy.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I don't know what I was thinking going straight into
that with a toddler and a newborn, but I had
this energy.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
I had this passion.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
I was like itching for it, and I was like
already doing my app and all of that, and I
was wearing active where every day. So I was like,
I just want to do my own brand because I
also loved fashion.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
So that's where Savski was born.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
What was the process in getting it to life?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
Just learning how to even run a clothing brand, Like
I had no idea what I was doing.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
Really, it was definitely a learn as you go process.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I got my sister Amy to move from Sydney to
come help me start it because she's very I'm like
more their creative mine and she's very organized and onto it,
and that is like what I needed. So she helped
me start it and we started out of my home
office and when we first started selling the clothing, I
(14:47):
had like all my family members like cousins and my
brother in law and all these different people helping me
like pack the orders and all of that.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
So yeah, it was just learn as you go.
Speaker 1 (14:57):
Really, those initial hassle like days, we had to rely
on friends and family because you don't know how much
staffing or like resourcing you need. You just like get
everyone involved, just like roll of their sleeves and get
it done. But then you fired your sister.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yes, as Saski grew, I feel like me and Amy
sort of started budding heads because she's my older sister
and she sort of, I don't know, it wasn't the
biggest fan of me sort of being her boss, Like
she likes to tell me what to do, and then
I like to tell her what to do.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So then we were just like clashing a bit.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
And also I feel like she wasn't as passionate about
Saski as I was and am. So it just got
to a point where we were just arguing so much
that we just thought we.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Can't work together anymore on this.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Our sister relationship was so strained at the time, and
then once she stopped working for Saski. Now we are
so so close, like couldn't be closer.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So it was definitely the best decision.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
I had a girl that sata Chopa with me, and
obviously it's like awkward when your first part ways and
now like she's still one of my closest friends, and
it's over letting friends, and this is a difference. It's
nice that the relationship is strong and not long term strained.
For people who do work with like family, lots of
like people work with their partners and working with friends,
a lot of friends work for you. Any advice for
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like when things do get awkward is trained.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, I have some of my best friends working for SASKI,
and I just feel like you sort of have to
keep trying and keep your friendship and your work relationship
sort of separate, which can be easy. Said that done,
if we have issues in the office, we don't take
it outside the office. I'm lucky enough that we rarely
even have any issues ever.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
So with Saski, you actually massively oversold when you first
launch a label. How did that happen? How did you
feel and how did you deal with it?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
I mean, obviously it's sort of a good problem to
have But it was really really stressful because like, to me,
I just know, like this was my first impression of
my brand, and I knew like I didn't want to
disappoint all these.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Customers that had made these orders.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
So I was just thinking, like what can I do
to try and make the situation a bit better. So
I ended up going through and sitting down with my
sister and we just went through every phone number, and
I was calling these numbers personally just to ask people
if either they wanted a refund or if they wanted
to wait a couple of weeks so we could fulfill
the order, but to just basically say that we didn't
(17:28):
have that order, and most people were super like obviously
happy to hear from me, and everyone was super like
nice about it. It was really stressful though, Like I
think me and my sister both cried that day.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
But I love hey handle that because it shows a
real commitment to the customer and the commitment to be
if you're calling, you're like, definitely we'll be delivering next time,
Like we'll get it sorted because definitely don't want to
call back, and the second time we'd be like, oh,
we've done it again. So it really shows so much commitment.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
No, yeah, I didn't just want to send out like
emails to everyone, and I just wanted to try and
make it a bit more personal, to sort of make
people understand like I'm so sorry, but like we're gonna
get you your order.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
And now you've had collections sell out in ninety seconds.
Speaker 2 (18:12):
It's been an unreal ride.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
Some of our collections that have sold out so quickly,
will just all be like screaming in the office.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
It's absolutely crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
How do you do it? I want to know we
haven't done that show.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Bro tell me every collection is sort of quite exclusive,
like we'll do a collection once and then it's like
it's never coming back. Like occasionally we'll restock certain things.
But I think because it's just like that one collection
and you get it before it sells out or it's
gone forever kind of thing. So I think that definitely
makes people feel that urgency like they want to get
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it before it's gone.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
Throughout your business journey, what's been like the toughest time
that you've been through, like your career in social media.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
When it comes to my social media, I definitely feel
like just being like scrutinized and so much, and like
all the trolls and all of that. That has definitely
probably been like the hardest thing to sort of deal with. Obviously,
I'm at a point now where I've been doing it
for so long, so I have grown a very thick skin,
and i am very used to it now, so I'm
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good at sort of ignoring it and just brushing it off.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
In the beginning especially, that was really really tough to
deal with.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
Do you feel a bit more unfazed by it all now?
But it would be just so hard to be in
the public eye, Like anything you do comes under yeah,
like you.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Said, scrutiny, yeah, And it's like half the time the
like articles and things like that are just complete made
up stories. Like it's stuff that I'm like, what, like
it's just crazy, or like I'll say something and they
take like one sentence and like make it into a
headline where it's completely out of context, or things like that.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
I'm like, it's overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Never go into like and read daily mail comments. I
actually had negative comments and I was like, oh, wow,
I've made it. I feel like when you're small, everyone's like,
oh because of this tall probably syndrome. People are very like,
it's on you, and I'm like, oh, negative feedback. I've
made it.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I've banned myself from reading any daily mail comments ever, like,
you'll never catch me reading those comments. When I used
to read some of them, it just blew my mind.
But then you think about it and you're like, who
is sitting at home like commenting something so nasty about
someone they obviously don't really know anything about.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
On this random article that's probably not even factual.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
How do you split your time between social media, building
your brand and then managing two businesses.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Yeah, it can be really, really overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
I struggle with this too.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Monday to Friday.
Speaker 3 (20:38):
I make sure I do not really work on weekends,
Saturday and Sunday. I'm not answering work calls, I'm not
responding to any like work text or emails, like that
is my time to do stuff with my families, do
what I want to do when it comes to running
the businesses. And my two older ones are in school,
so they're at school Monday to Friday. But Posy so
(20:59):
young still, so I usually bring her to the office
almost every day on the time she isn't with her dad,
so that's getting interesting because she's getting to toddler terrible
two's age is coming up.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So that's been fun.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
Such a hard age. I've got a fourteen month old
and a three year old. The firty month old just
like walking but then can't communicate. I'm like, what do
you want? It's just this is so had. Yeah, essentially
got five kids now, all wanting your attention with the businesses, Like,
how do you prioritize?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
My kids will always be my first priority. Yeah, it's tough.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
Because my businesses are such like a passion of mine
as well, so I want it. Like, sometimes I do
feel like I'm being pulled in twenty different directions and
I want to sort of give my all to everything.
I feel like it changes, and you sort of have
to go with the flow of like the different stages.
Like sometimes a certain business will need more of my attention,
so I'll be putting more focus into that, or sometimes
(21:56):
I just want to take a step back and focus
on my kids more. I feel like I just go
with the flow and like, what really is needing me
most of the time?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
What are the business challenges you're currently facing?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Obviously it's the crazy cost of living at the moment,
everyone's being a bit more reserved with their spending. I
think that would be the main one. And some markets
are very saturated. A lot of people are trying to
do similar things, so you have to try and think
outside the box a bit more and try and stand
out a bit more.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Do you find that you have an advantage of like
understanding social media, being social media lebed, having such a
big following to leverage on.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
Yeah, definitely, I am, like my own marketing, I am
fortunate that I have a massive following already.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
So yeah, that's super super beneficial.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Like you've probably have more reach than certain like publications
that have like a whole company working for them, well
you know something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah, No, it's definitely definitely beneficial.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Just in case you're not busy enough, You've written a book.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
So it is called Show Up and it's pretty much
just my sort of tool kit about every sort of
aspect in life, and just like it's sort of a
bit of motivation, a bit about my own personal story
and my own journey and things that I've been through,
and yeah, there's different sort of activities to get you thinking.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
And yeah, I've.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
Been working on it for quite a while now, So
I'm excited that it's finally here, very very exciting. It's
sort of like a pinch me moment for me. How
long did that take you to write over a year?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
It must be just like so hard to sometimes like
you've got the ideas, but to actually get pen to
paper to get the ball rolling.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yeah, it feels very surreal that it's finally here.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
And love the name. That's what it's all about. It's
just like it's just about showing up.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
Yeah, it's not about being perfect, it's not about getting
everything right. It's about, you know, just showing up for yourself,
for the people around you, for your business.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
What else is next? Do you have like a million
ideas going and you have to choose and say no
a lot to yourself?
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:59):
I do.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
I feel like I always have so many different things
I want to do and I'm like, no, I need
to pull back. I need to like choose like the
next thing, not like so many different things.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
But yeah, there is a few things.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
In the works at the moment that I'm really excited about,
but I can't really share on those.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
What do you do for yourself to unwine?
Speaker 2 (24:21):
I'll love to just.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
You know, like have a night binge watching Netflix something
like that.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
I love to just go for a swim in the ocean.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Like the other day, I had a bunch of meetings
and I felt super overwhelmed in stress, and I just
went to the beach and jumped in the ocean for
five minutes, and it just like resets me.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So I love going to the beach. I also love.
Speaker 3 (24:42):
Having just on the weekends, I'll have a lot of
my family over and we'll just have wine and cheese, clutters,
and just like I love to just relax like that.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
So yeah, there's definitely some of my like go to
things to do for me.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
You've turned four hundred dollars into a thirty eight million
dollar business. I think that is just like such a
incredible story and inspirational for everyone. What is your advice
to other entrepreneurs?
Speaker 3 (25:06):
I think my number one advice would definitely be something
I learned all those years ago in that entrepreneur class
that I loved. It would just be to start with
what you have and do what you can where you are.
I feel like it's so important to not just wait
for like the right time, wait for more money, wait
for this, and that I feel like it's so important
(25:28):
to just start start where you can do what you can.
The best way forward is to start taking steps.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
So yeah, that's probably my number one advice to give.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
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