February 17, 2024 • 54 mins
This first episode of the Lazy Girl Library, hosted by Darbi and Mikayla, offers a unique sanctuary for book lovers, weaving together personal anecdotes, reading styles, and a shared passion for literature. From their earliest reading memories to the literary bonds that underscore their friendship, the hosts embark on a nostalgic journey through the stories that have shaped them. They introduce their distinctive reading personalities—Darbi as the 'present escapist' and Mikayla as the 'conspiracy theorist'—and express their fondness for genres and authors, notably Sarah J. Maas. The podcast resonates with childhood nostalgia, the evolution of their reading habits, and the communal joy found in shared literary experiences. Through laughter-filled discussions and candid reflections on the challenges of reading amidst life's distractions, Darbi and Mikayla create an inviting space for listeners to reflect on their own literary journeys. The episode closes with a heartfelt invitation to join their ongoing celebration of reading, emphasizing the podcast's role in uniting readers through the love of books and the enduring magic of storytelling.
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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library, the podcast, where
reading is a pleasure andcaptivating adventures happen
from the comfort of your couch.
I'm your host, darby, and I'mMikaela, and if you've ever
spent more time rearranging yourbookshelf than your priorities,
then you, my friend, are in theright place.
Alright, hello, mikaela, helloDarby, hello listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're here, we did it .
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I can't believe it's already been a night for us.
We have I mean, as the namestates, we are Lazy Girl Library
, but yeah, we've had to not belazy tonight and we've had a lot
of technical difficulties, butwe're here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
A lot of workarounds, but we made it Shout out, josh,
thanks for the help.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yay, but anyway, we're so excited to have you
here.
This is our very first episode,so kind of for this episode, we
really just want to talk aboutthe who, what and why.
So this podcast and, you know,take the opportunity to
introduce ourselves to all ofyou fellow book enthusiasts.
So I guess kind of just hoppingin with like who we are in
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introductions I'm Darby, hi,darby.
Hey, sorry, this is weird, I'mstill trying to get used to
talking.
Still a little bit about me,basically the type of reader
that I am.
I have labeled as the presentescapist, which I love.
What does that mean?
It means that I like to escapereality in books and I'm very
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present when I read.
Like I am not thinking toodeeply into it, I am living in
the book moment.
I am never guessing the endingor guessing anything.
Actually I am, I'm just there,I'm escaping life.
But then as soon as the bookcloses do not ask me what
happened because I don't know Iwas in the moment.
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What type of reader are you,michaela?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I am definitely the complete opposite.
I consider myself theconspiracy theorist.
So, unlike Darby, who loves tobe present in her books, I am
constantly thinking ahead andcoming up with the wildest
theories of what could happen.
What is going to happen?
I bet this person is going tofall in love with this person,
or this person is the bad guy,whatever.
So I'm always trying to figureout the ending before the ending
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can come.
Like a little game for me, theworst.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
A lot of times I'll have read a book before Michaela
and so she sends me all of herthoughts, and the worst is when
I have to try and gaslight herbecause she's correct about
everything and I'm like maybethe best feeling is, like some
of those where I'm like, okay,this one's really outlandish, I
really don't think this is goingto happen, but I'm going to
write it down anyway, and thenit ends up happening.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Such a validating feeling it does it's good.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, actually I don't know the feeling, but I
assume that would be cool.
Alright, our favorite genres.
My favorite genres are fantasythat's probably my top one, but
then I also like romance, and Ireally like self-help books too,
especially like faith-basedones.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You find really good ones.
Thanks, I always love therecommendations, my favorite
genres.
I also do fantasy.
It's how Darby and I really gotinto this with the Sergey Masks
books.
I also love a good mystery orhistorical fiction, but really
I'm just kind of an eclecticreader.
If there's a good story to it,then I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, what are your top three favorite books,
michaela?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's a great question, anything.
Sergey Masks, as we both wellknow.
As you readers will know, yes,I talk about her all the time.
We bond over the trauma of theMassevers.
Specifically, I loved A Courtof Silver Flames I'm a Nesta
girly through and through or theThrone of Glass series.
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Just all of them, can't pickone.
They all are at the top thereOutside of fantasy, I loved
Seven and a Half Deaths ofEvelyn Hardcastle by Stuart
Turton.
I hope I pronounced that lastname right.
It is not related to the sevenhusbands of Evelyn Hugo, as many
people like to think when theyhear the name.
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Completely different author,premise and everything.
It's definitely more of amystery, but it's one that kept
my head spinning the whole timeas a conspiracy theorist.
It's hard to find those, sothat's top of my list there.
And the third one, I'd say theSong of Achilles by Madeline
Miller.
It's very different than mostbooks that I like to read, but
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it was just beautifully written,the prose in it, the visuals
that you have.
I'm also such a sucker forGreek mythology so I loved those
tie-ins there.
Definitely top three, that'sgood, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I actually haven't read Seven and a Half Deaths of
Evelyn Hardcastle or the Song ofAchilles, but maybe I'll give
those a try.
You have read all of myfavorite books, my top three
favorite books.
I also echo anything by Sarah JMass, and Throne of Glass, I
think, is my favorite series byher.
There was just so many goodcharacters and like there was
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not a single one of thosecharacters that I didn't like.
I really just I felt aconnection to all of them.
Really I think this is anunderrated fantasy book and it's
one of my top three favoritebooks is the Serpent and the
Wings of Night by CarissaBroadbent.
I read this book on well, notfully on a plane, but the ending
I read on a plane and, oh mygosh, the people next to me must
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have thought I was crazy.
I was crying, I was gasping.
It made me feel all theemotions.
It was so good, it was so good.
I wish I could reread that onefor the first time.
And then I think my thirdfavorite book is I Don't Wait
Anymore by Grace Thornton.
I hope I said that right.
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It's been a while since I readthis book, but this one really
helped me at a time in my lifewhere I was just a little lost
in my faith and just wasn't surewhat my purpose was and it just
I don't know.
It really helped me and I justI liked her stories, I liked how
she rated, related things backto God and it just I don't.
All I can say is that, like itenlightened me.
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I was reading it and I rememberspecifically I was on a cruise
and there was this one chapterand this one page talking about
a verse and I was just like whoaand for the rest of the trip,
the rest of the day, I was justengulfed and my mind was like
opened up.
It was like a new part of mybrain like started working?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, it is.
You recommended it to me and Iread it and I keep it by my
bedside.
I have little notes highlightedand everything they go back in
reference because I thoroughlyenjoyed it too.
So I can't echo your thoughtsenough on that.
Yeah, 10 out of 10.
It's a sweet one, I like it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay.
Well, why are we here, like,why are we doing this podcast?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Another great question Darby.
So really, we started.
Well, this is honestly, trulyall because of Darby.
Darby started this.
All all credit goes to herbecause she started the book
club that I joined, which iswhat got me back into reading,
but we can go into that later,and so, oh, shout out book babes
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.
By the way, too, that's ourbook club, so we've been reading
together for a while.
You got me into Sarah J Mass,and so we're always texting back
and forth about those books,and, as I've been going on the
journey, after you're holding myhand through it, which I can't
appreciate enough.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It is funny.
The fact that you read a SarahJ Mass book before me is going
to be weird, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't think it'll ever come.
We've gotten two said theirways at this point, but we talk
about books all the time.
Because of that and because wehave very similar likes and
dislikes with books, and so myfiance, josh, was always telling
us that we need to start a bookpodcast, to just sit down and
start recording all theseconversations that we'd have
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Like, yeah, sure, whatever,eventually, maybe.
And then finally we werehanging out and Derby's like you
know what?
We really should start apodcast.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
For real.
Let's do this.
We talk for hours about booksand I feel like the book
community is so close, but atthe same time I feel like it can
be kind of spaced out, becauseyou don't know who's reading
what.
You don't want to spoilsomething, you don't know if
someone likes something that youlike, or you just don't know if
someone's like a reader.
I feel like sometimes readingcan be intimate.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So I feel like this is a good place for us to share
and meet more book friends likeourselves, create our own little
community of people to talk toabout all things book related,
which is what you can expectfrom this podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Exactly, we will be rotting on the couch and talking
about books.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Nothing new there.
We're just recording it now.
So things you can expect fromus here we're just going to be
talking about all things bookish.
Really, I'm sharing ourfavorite reads, exploring
different genres.
That is one thing that we loveto do in our book club is we
always pick a different book anda different genre, trying to
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expand our horizons, so you'llget a wide range of books from
us.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
On this journey of a podcast, and then also not well,
still related to books, but notjust reading.
We're going to talk aboutpopular bookish topics, things
that circulate on book talk orbookstagram, what's trending,
what are funny memes that we sawJust all things books and
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bookish.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It will be kind of fun too, because we do have such
different reading styles.
You'll get the two differentversions of the books that we're
reading, or two different pointof views for some of these
topics too, and we'd be curiousto hear where you all land on
that spectrum, whether you'remore like me, more like Darby or
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somewhere in the middle it'sgoing to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm really going to have to focus on taking notes as
I read because, like I said, Iread something and then, once
the book's over, like it's over,like trying to pull the
thoughts out.
Sometimes, luckily, mckay likehas so many notes that it like
jogs my memory.
I'm like oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Idid like that, or no, I didn't
like that, but I think it'll begood.
And so each each month, we'llbe talking about a different
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book, and right now, our aim isto do two podcasts a month one
specifically, like on a bookthat we're reading, and then the
other one will be more bookishtopics.
But we are lazy girl library,so Don't take that to heart.
Take it with a grain of salt,we'll get to it when we get to
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it.
Learning curves, but that's whatwe're going to try and do.
So welcome to our book club,because that's kind of what this
is.
Each month we're going to bedoing a new book and hopefully
you guys can read with us.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We'll let you know what the books are, too, so you
can follow along.
This month, I think we're doingthe Worst Best man by LucyScore
, so that'll be the next podcastepisode.
You'll get to hear our thoughtson the book that we're still
currently reading, or at least Iam.
I did, yeah, that is the otherthing.
I feel like Darby is a reallyfast reader, but I'm not, and
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I'm a very slow reader.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, but it's like I'm not a fast reader.
I just put off every singleother priority and spend the
hours reading, but it's nothappening fast.
It's definitely like I'm not afast reader.
I just really, I just, yeah,put off all other priorities
sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I feel that I'm such a specific type of reader too,
like I'm not somebody that cantune out the world and read
anywhere, I feel like I'm likeone of those plants that needs
like the specific type ofenvironment and soil in order to
thrive.
That's me reading.
I need a certain environment.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You're like a secular plant, exactly Not too much sun
, not too much water.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I need just the right conditions in order to get into
a book, which can be difficultsometimes, but we're working
through it and I will befinishing the book here soon,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, we'll get it in by the next podcast, but this
is really fun already.
I'm having fun already.
But also in this episode, sinceit's new and we're talking
about who we are, we kind ofwanted to talk a little bit
about kind of how we got intobooks, because for some people
they don't start really readingor getting into fiction until
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like college, while some peoplestart like, as they're a kid,
they just read all growing up.
So we kind of wanted to talkabout our history in reading and
how we grew up.
So for me, I really have alwaysloved reading.
My mom likes to tell this story.
I did a pageant when I was likea baby, like a little.
I was a toddler in Sierra, butonly one's, only one pageant.
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But she always tells the storythat when the judges ask what my
favorite toy was, I said a book.
A book was my favorite toy.
It's so cute.
And then I vividly rememberbeing a kid in elementary school
and I loved, loved, lovedperforming.
I thought I was going to be anactress one day.
And so I remember readingcertain books and I would like
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sing the pages out loud or likeread them as if it was a
performance and I was like theactress.
And so I definitely read inelementary school and that was
more of like performing to me,with little books.
I know that's weird, no, that'sso awesome though.
But and then in middle school Ihad the sweetest librarian and
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she, she just like got me, andshe, she knew what books to like
, point me in the direction toread, because I, I don't know, I
didn't know what to read, andshe just gave me some really
good ones.
So she kind of kept me going.
And then in high schools, whenthings like really like
developed for me but did youread when you were a kid?
Like elementary, middle school?
I did.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I came from a big family of readers so my mom, she
would read to me every nightbefore bed and that really like
sparked my love of reading,because we've been doing that
from for as long as I canremember.
We would always, whether it'slike picture books or whatever.
When I got a little bit olderwe would even do like chapter
books that I remember and goingthrough.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, I know like sorry, I don't mean to cut you
off, but I've I don't remember.
Sorry, mom and dad, if you didread chapter books to me, but I
don't ever remember being likereading a chapter book with
another person.
So did you guys just likeliterally read like one chapter
at a time?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
or just how many pages it felt like it's because
of like we always did at night,so like before bed, and we
didn't get in the chapter booksreally until I would say like
third, fourth, fifth grade.
We really stopped after fifthgrade.
She kind of get older.
At that point You're notreading bedtime stories anymore,
but it depended on like howlate it was.
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If we just do a chapter or if itwas a little bit earlier, we
might do like one or twochapters kind of thing, and we
just do that every night, like achapter or two every night
until we finish the book.
I'll never forget like ourfavorite series was called the
Santa Paws series, which wasabout it's about like a dog.
I think he was like a rescue orlike a living on the streets
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kind of dog and like all theadventures he'd go through
around Christmas time and likehelping kids and like you, know
like, really like goodwill typeof things.
I'm getting air buddies, vibesIf you've seen that movie, kind
of it was and it was just areally like heartwarming and
dogs for a big dog family lovedogs and so, yeah, always around
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Christmas time that was likethe big thing that we would read
a lot.
I remember that's cute, butyeah, big, big reading family.
Both my grandmas loved to read,especially my dad's mom.
She's a huge reader, until wetalk about books a lot.
And then my grandpa I willnever forget one summer over
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elementary school.
It was the summer betweensecond and third grade.
He was always like giving melittle challenges or things like
that, and so this one he saidthat if I could read 100 books
over the summer, he would giveme a hundred one dollar bills,
which for me I like seven, eightyears old, I'm like, oh my gosh
, I'm going to be rich.
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This is me right now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That was the offer Easy.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And so I would.
I went through and they weren't, like you know, like picture
books, like easy books, likethey had to be, like more like
real books.
I did, I did do it.
Hundred bucks in the summer.
A lot of Junie B Jones lovedher, but we did it and I will,
yep.
I will never forget thatfeeling of being at the bank and
the lady counting out a hundredone dollar bills for me.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Wow, that's, that's impressive.
My good reads go.
Last year I read 24 books inthe year and I was like this is
amazing, this is crazy.
I can't imagine a hundred booksover the summer.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I was motivated man.
I wanted that, I wanted thatmoney?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, it was a great it really did.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It was a great motivator for me, like through
life too.
It kept me reading at thatpoint because it's like Pavlov's
dog meat.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You're like drooling as the pages are flipping.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Give it to me.
So yeah, big reader, bigreading, family love it.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's so fun.
What is your first book memoryas a child?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I know you you mentioned Junie B Jones.
Yeah, junie B Jones, for sure.
That was like the first realchapter books I got into.
I feel like that's a staple fora lot of people.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Oh yeah, I read Junie B Jones yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You can't not read Junie.
We love Junie, oh yeah, um,sass Master for sure.
But the other one that's moreobscure, it was called
Clementine by Sarah PennyPackard and it was a very
similar kind of style to Junie BJones.
But I just related withClementine so much because she
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had like this restlessness abouther, like getting distracted in
class or just like not wantingto do things.
How my parents didn't figureout I have ADHD at that point.
I don't know but relating tothis girl so much and it was
just a very different vibe toJunie B Jones, even though
they're like similar, very, verydifferent.
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And I remember absolutelyloving that book and reading it
to death when I was a little.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I feel like that one sounds similar to me.
I need to look that one up.
If maybe I might have read thatone too, but I can't remember.
I will say I'm so excited tohave kids one day and to read to
them, and I think part of itgoes back to me like perform,
like I can't wait to be eachlike character.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Do fun voices.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Like they're all going to have different accents.
I think it's going to be reallyfun.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Performance.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, but to get to read them like our favorite
books.
My first childhood memory bookwould be all Dr Seuss ones, so
like the green eggs and ham.
I think I knew that one byheart at one point.
It's such a it's just such aniconic book, so it's going to be
cool to like read those.
And then also where thesidewalk ends, by Shel
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Silverstein, so nostalgic,talking about performing again.
That's what reading was to mein elementary school.
But I would sing those little,all those little stories.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Some of them were so dramatic and easy to get into.
The perform yes, great one, sonostalgic.
And then what about?
Like your first young adultbook I remember reading it's
called cry of the ice mark.
I don't remember the author,but this was like my first step
into fantasy.
This was in fifth grade and itwas like young heroin who can
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take care of herself and she waslike really independent, had
the kind of like Ron stoppable,kim possible vibe to it with
like the love interest, whichwas great.
And I remember absolutelyloving that book so much.
And it's tragic because Ididn't learn that it was a
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series until literally this year, and then I could have been
reading the full series but Ididn't know it was a series.
I thought it was a standalonebook, and so now I feel like I
need to go back and revisit thisbook you do?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How long is the series?
How many books are there?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I don't know, but I do know that there's at least
two or three more, I think.
So I feel like I need to goback and revisit this.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I do think at some point, maybe even like with the
podcast, we should pick out someof our like childhood books or
like our first YA books.
My first one was it was calledwings by Apriline Pike, which is
really funny because it's aboutthis girl finding out that she
is like a fairy, like sorryspoiler alert but fairies from
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the stars.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And now I'm obsessed with Sarah J Mass, but it's
literally I don't remember a lotof it.
I do remember there was a lovetriangle.
I think we love a love trianglebut it's like this girls in
high school.
And she wakes up and there'slike a lump on her back and
she's like what is this?
But of course she's not tellingher parents or anyone.
And then she grows wings andinstead of telling people, she
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like ties them down, like behindher back, so she can wear
shirts and stuff to school, andthen I can't I could be
butchering some of this becauseit was in middle school but I
think what happens then is likeshe like meets an actual fairy
and he's like I know what'swrong, but like I know you have
wings.
The beginning of it?
Yes so that was probably myfirst one.
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And then when I got to highschool I kind of like I was
going through like a wait, likeI dropped reading a little bit.
But then this girl we all gothrough that yeah, this girl in
my chemistry class I remembershe was reading a book and I was
like really intrigued she also.
I thought she was cool.
So she was reading this bookand I was like I wonder what
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that is.
And I asked her and it was thematched trilogy.
I don't know if you ever readit.
I've heard you talk about itbefore.
Yeah, it was like my first introinto like a dystopian like
series and so that was prettycool.
Again, another love triangle,but Love it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, for me in high school it was all about Percy
Jackson and John Green.
Those are my two big, big booksthat I absolutely loved.
I ate up the Percy Jacksonagain, with the Greek mythology
obsessed.
And then John Green just gotjust felt so emotional and deep
and they were really it justlike, especially at that age,
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you're like no one understands.
It had the teen angst Yep,that's exactly the word.
Teen angst to it.
For sure that I ate up.
I loved it, plus all of hissymbolism, because I was really
into that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I know a lot of people hated that I probably
didn't get any of that when Iread them back in the day.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It's like everybody's least favorite part of English
class is like but why were thedrapes red?
But that was my absolutefavorite.
I loved finding all thesymbolism in meeting, so, john
Green, was it for me?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I also went through a John Green phase.
I'm trying to think what myfavorite book by him was but I
can't, I don't know.
They feel so long ago.
But I definitely liked lookingfor Alaska, that one I really
liked, and I liked Abundance ofCatherine, right.
But I think now my memory ofthat one is skewed because of
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the movie.
So now I don't know what wasthe book and what was the movie,
since that was so long ago.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I loved Fault in Our Stars, obviously.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I actually never read that one, I only saw the movie,
really yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I loved the book.
The movie was cute too, but thebook's always better.
But I did love looking forAlaska.
I did a lot of like bookreports and stuff on that one,
because that one I think was myfavorite too.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I think the series I was obsessed with in high school
was the Selection series.
With this girl on my cheer team.
She recommended it to me, orshe was reading it at the time,
and I ate it up.
Oh my gosh, it was like it,like how do you explain it?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It was like a bachelor meets dystopian
princesses.
Yes, yes, yes, that's literally, I think.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
On the back of the book it says like the bachelor
meets the hunger games is whatit says, and like it's
definitely a YA book.
But it's just, oh, it was sogood.
I recently reread it, like acouple years ago, and it's still
.
It's still hit the same.
I was like, oh, this is good.
A little more like nostalgicthis time, sure, but I was like,
oh, this is this is good.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I did read the first one from your recommendation.
I did really enjoy it, it wasreally cool and it's a really
interesting concept because it'snot something that like as much
as like dystopian novels weresuch like the rage at that time.
And very much was its own thingit was very original, unlike
some of them that kind of feellike copy paste a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It was very much its own thing and I really
appreciated that.
Yeah, I it's definitely like.
When I read it the second time,it definitely had a little more
like a kid feel to it,especially now that we're
reading more adult books.
But I don't know, I think thatone will always be one of my
favorites and like who doesn'twant to dress up?
Absolutely, I don't know.
That was a good one.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So, coming back to the reading journey, I do again
gotta give Derby her props,because I was always in and out
of reading depending on what wasgoing on at the time,
especially when we got tocollege.
I really got out of it Becauseat that point you're like you're
reading textbooks, you're busystudying.
I didn't have the time to readthe way that I was in middle
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school and high school, but thenI met Derby and Derby and
Shelby started this book cluband we read a court of thorns
and roses.
Actually, the first book wasSeven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo,
which I appreciated, but theirsecond book was a court of
thorns and roses, and that justsprint.
(26:23):
It was a sprint.
After that I just took offrunning and never stopped.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's so funny because I was.
I remember at the time I was sonervous recommending a court of
thorns and roses.
I was like they are going tothink this is so weird.
I'm trying to explain it tothem and for anyone that reads
fantasy you know that trying toexplain it to someone it sounds
like you're an idiot.
You're like oh yeah, there'sthis fairy and a different work.
(26:47):
But they're not like littlefairies, they're like big,
muscular, powerful, magicalfairies and it's like that.
It does not come across the wayit's supposed to.
It just doesn't sound enticing.
But it's like there's war,there's like romance, drama.
But I remember I was so scaredrecommending that book.
But I was similar to you.
(27:07):
I like read kind of dropped offin college, at least with
fiction wise.
I kept up with self help booksI was in college but I really
just kind of dropped all likefiction.
And then this girl who Iinterned with at Make-A-Wish.
She was reading a court ofthorns and roses and she she
(27:28):
made it sound good and Iremember she was like, but
there's a little bit of spiceand I was like I've never read a
book with spice.
I don't even know what thatmeans.
And yeah, I think once you reada court of thorns and roses,
you get the bug.
Like her writing is just likemagical.
I think it might be like like apotion, or like you read it and
(27:50):
like I'm going to trance, likeI have to keep going.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It is.
It's one of those that once youstarted, you can't stop it's
it's sectioned until you finish.
All everything, all the books.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, but I think our breaks are over.
We, we did that.
We read a court of thorns androses and we've been all gas, no
breaks, yeah, Flying throughever since.
Mm-hmm.
But realistically, like whereyou at now reading wise, here
you're reading journey.
I have slowed down a bit.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So like that first year back, mm-hmm, there was
pedal to the metal.
I was cruising through books.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You were doing like two or three, you're ready for a
hundred ready to go around formy money.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, but yeah, I was just non-stop.
I mean, they talk about beinglike a bookworm or a book dragon
.
It's like bookworms like justdevour books constantly, versus
book dragons like hoard bookseven though you don't read them.
I feel like I a hundred percentof both, where I was like
constantly just reading anddevouring book after book, but
(28:57):
then I was collecting books atlike twice the pace that I was
reading them to.
Now I have this huge physicalTBR, yeah, that I've.
Now that I've slowed down, I'mlike okay, we got it, we got to
take this down before I'mallowed to touch anything.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Barnes and Noble okay , see, I'm different in that I
have maybe two physical booksright now that I haven't read.
Like if I buy a book, I amreading it.
Then, like I do not havephysical TBRs, like if I want to
read a book I'm gonna get it orit's gonna stay in my, like
good reads, want to read.
I saw this really.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I don't know who said it.
I think it was like I saw it onTikTok or something.
It was a quote by somebodytalking about how they treat
books like fine wine and thenwhen you're collecting them it's
just like sitting in the cellar.
It's not the right time.
Yet you got to let it ageproperly before you touch it and
I feel like that's very muchhow I treat books.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I love that analogy.
I'm like book people are sosmart, I know.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I cannot take credit.
That is not me, don't come atme.
That was not whoever createdthat saying or in that quote.
All credit goes to you, not anoriginal.
But I do love it and Idefinitely it makes me feel a
little bit better about myendless TBR.
Yeah, I get you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I think I also.
I did not go as hard as you,but I definitely was like really
ramping up.
After we started book club Iwas going so hard, so fast, like
I just wanted to keep going,keep going, keep going, and now
I think I'm in a I pretty likeconsistent, like I try to read
two books a month is kind oflike my goal.
So it's like normally our bookclub book and then one like
(30:33):
extra curricular right look likethat's just on my TBR.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I think it's a totally doable goal.
Yeah, and like something easythat I'm trying to do too.
I was hard after the holidaysand things got crazy and Darby
got married, so we were goingthrough all the wedding planning
and fun stuff.
Yeah, that's that, but and nowMichaela's engaged, so she's up
next, but we're taking our timeon that one, but also should
(31:01):
enjoy the time it's also whyslowing down a little bit so
it's said, I'm not, it's notgonna be as crazy as it was
before for me, but definitely Ithink the two books a month is
totally doable and an easy goalto keep for the both of us yeah,
also I was thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I think the term book hangover is so real too that
sometimes, when you've read sucha good book like one, you like
want to read another book, butat the same time it's like you
know it's not gonna be as good.
So then it's like kingdom ofash.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm gonna cry, I think that happens too.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's weird now that, like I feel like we're so so
much more into books now thanwhen we first became friends.
And it's funny.
I was talking to Justin myhusband shout out hubby we were
talking about like how we'vechanged and our relationship has
changed and one of the firstthings he said was like well,
you definitely read a lot morethan what we first started going
(32:03):
out.
But I don't know.
I just think you, you kind ofjust get into your own like zone
and routine of reading and Ifeel like now we've hit like a
routine.
Like before we were trying tofigure out like I want
everything, I want to read now,and now we're like I do want to
read everything, but that'simpossible.
So we're gonna take it as itcomes.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yep, fantastic way to put it.
Yeah, josh really appreciatesmy book obsession because, same
thing like I, was not reading asmuch when we first started
dating, but now it gives himtime to go out and play golf
because he knows it's like hey,did you see?
Like have you started thelatest book?
Or for book club?
You know like you shouldprobably get on that.
(32:43):
And he's like oh, by the way,I'm also leaving for tea time.
That.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I'll see you later.
That's Justin, but with videogames.
So he loves that.
He gets to hang out with hisfriends and play video games and
I go read with the dog, butit's funny.
I've tried to read while heplays video games.
I can't.
He's so loud that I it's justnot doable.
Like, or you know, you get in azone during some some scenes of
(33:09):
books and then when they'reyelling, I'm like, all right, I
need a different setting.
I cannot.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I will say Josh is very talented.
He has a sixth sense forknowing when those scenes come
up and that is exactly when hechooses.
That we're gonna have like areally great conversation about
something asking me ranquestions.
They can be sitting on the couchfor a couple hours not talking
and I'm reading the book.
As soon as I get to a spicypart I'm not even kidding like a
(33:34):
few words in and he immediatelyis like now is the greatest
time for me to ask what are wedoing about dinner?
Well, you know like, oh, weshould go see this next movie
that's coming out.
I hope he hears this right now.
He's in another room right nowand I really hope Josh is here,
he knows I tell him and hethinks it's funny.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
He does nothing to change it, but it's fine it is
funny too, like when you'rereading and you're like trying
to finish a chapter and they askyou a question and it's like
two more pages, like hold on, Ican't focus.
And then they ask you anotherquestion.
I'm like one more page, hold on, let me just get to a stopping
point.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Oh no, josh knows like if he sees that I'm down at
the end, he won't bother me.
Yeah, otherwise I'll have todeal with the consequences of
that, and he doesn't want todeal with that that's so good.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
That's so good.
But I'm really excited aboutthis and about our podcast.
I think it's gonna be so muchfun and, like we said, we're
kind of in like a nice routine,so we're excited to just talk
about books with more people.
We really want to hear from youguys and hopefully you like the
books that we're reading, butif not, let us know and give us
(34:41):
recommendations for books thatyou think are way better than
the books that we're reading, oreven if you just have
recommendations for us.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Our TBRs are endless, so you know what's one more,
two more books to add to itexactly, exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I know we both love Sarah J Mass, but we both are
late to the fourth wing craze,so we both do have the book
already.
No, but it is on my list.
That's on mine too.
I just actually bought both ofthem.
I think it's Iron Flame is thesecond one, so I figured we were
gonna read those eventually,but I do.
I've heard such good thingsabout them.
(35:13):
I think that'll be my next likefantasy book, after Chris and
City all over book talk.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, it's definitely on my on my list after I finish
.
The Chris and City House of Skyand Breath is next one, for me
at least, I think I'm gonna takea little bit of a fantasy break
, do a little palette.
You need a fantasy break and Icall them palette cleanses,
because otherwise, if you gofrom one fantasy to the next,
(35:41):
they start to blend and they domuch they just doesn't work for
me, then joy.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It's the worst when they use the same names for
characters and you're like oh no, or the same like place names.
That has really thrown me.
I'm like what world am I in?
Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Sometimes I've gotten like something like is too
similar or like the magicsystems are really really
similar, but then, there's likeone nuance difference that you
forget about yes, yeah, I need,especially after a Sarah J Mass
type of fantasy book.
I need a break before I go in.
Yeah, to anything else.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, I don't know what the next one will be, but
my breaks are usually like aromance book, cuz compared to
the thick fantasy books, it'ssuch like a quick read, yeah,
like I think the newest Sarah JMass book is like 102 chapters
over 800 pages.
And then I get a romance bookand it's like half that or even
(36:36):
less than that order of it.
Yeah, whoa, this is me so quick.
Yeah, and that's why it lookslike I'm reading it so fast,
because in comparison it's solittle, it's true.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, all depends on the timing you have to, which
you know we're adults, whichsucks, and being in an adult
world sucks.
Next, all you want to do is siton the couch and be lazy and
read books all day.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, so if you all could listen and share this, so
that we can make this ourfull-time gig and not have to
work, that would be great,because we are not meant for
corporate world but so, speakingof book club and books, like we
said, we are reading the worst,best man right now by Lucy
(37:19):
score.
So, on our next podcast, that'sgonna be the book that we're
talking about.
So if you want to read itbeforehand so you can kind of
understand sort of referenceswe're talking to, we're really
gonna try, and when we talkabout books, if we're gonna talk
about spoilers or get into thenitty-gritty, we're gonna try
and break it up so that if youstill want to listen to the
(37:41):
podcast but haven't read thebook, we are hoping to give you
like time slots where you canlike skip ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like if we want to talk about the actual plot and
stuff, we'll say, okay, skip tominute 23 or something, and then
you can listen to the podcastbut not necessarily hear all the
specifics about the book andthe spoilers right, and so if,
like, the episode comes outbefore you finish the book,
because you're joining us forbook club, you can still listen
(38:09):
to everything that's going on,and then later, when you finish
the book, you know exactly whereto go for all of our thoughts
on it.
Yeah, so no spoilers here.
We hate spoilers.
Coming across them.
Bookstagram is the worst aboutit.
It is.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
You will not find them here you okay, you know
it's crazy.
I'm not gonna say like thespoiler for people who haven't
read it, but one of myco-workers, I got her to read a
court of thorns and roses andshe wanted to look up the
characters.
But she looked up one of themain characters while she was
reading the first book, but thenit shows a lot of characters
(38:47):
from future books and it it likeruined it for her.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
That is one you cannot.
If anybody has yet to read aquarter thorns and rosin's and
you're listening to this, do not, do not, do not look up
anything while reading thatseries.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It will ruin it for you, literally email or email
who you want to see.
We will find the character andwe will send you a fan art of
just that character, but if youlook up one, you're going to get
all of them.
Yep, yeah, also sorry, we'regoing to talk about Sarah J Mass
a lot.
So, speaking of Court ofFlorence and Roses again, do you
remember our friend Samantha?
She poor girl.
(39:22):
She read, I think, the firstone and then, before starting
the second one, she startedreading like the last one.
Yes, and that ruined it for hertoo.
Oh my, that broke my heart.
I was like the fact that you'renot going to get to like.
See that play out naturally,but you just had to like,
Because I don't know how muchthat second book would hit,
knowing the spoilers for it.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't know it's heart wrenching knowing yeah.
Like, oh my gosh, you poorsouls who have had that spoiled
for you, I feel for you, I'mhere for you, you're in my
thoughts and prayers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
We love books to gram book talk and all the memes,
but at the same time, pleasekeep it away.
Even publishing places likeisn't Bloomsbury, they're just
out here posting things.
That was wild for the NewCrescent City book, which I do
get it to an extent, because Iwas reading some of the comments
on one of them and some peopleare like, well yeah, we read the
(40:19):
other one when it first cameout.
We've been waiting two years.
We want these little likesnippets.
So I get it Like I can't be mad.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I just now know like I am not going to look on those
sites or look at photos or butit's really hard when it's like
you can't blame the publishingcompany for putting some of that
stuff out or for people beingexcited.
But it's really hard when youdon't go looking for things like
that but you find them anywayBecause, like, obviously I know
that the new Serger Mass book iscoming out, so I'm not going to
(40:48):
look on all of these differentplaces that I normally am for,
you know, books, grand book,talk, whatever.
But they still find you anywayand that's the frustrating part
of it, there's nothing you cando about it.
It's just the way of the world.
At this point, Nobody's fault.
But oh, it's frustrating.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I'm thinking about as we're like talking about like
Serger Mass and kind of liketalking around spoilers, like
being in the book community,it's like you have to talk in
coded messages.
Like you, when you're talkingabout a book or a sequel or
literally anything, you don'twant to give anything away
because it, like reading, givesyou such a like I don't know
(41:28):
it's like a high it is, and solike you can't take that away
from someone.
So you're just like I don'tknow.
I feel like it kind of soundcrazy talking right now, Like I
hope the listeners can likefollow along with us, like what
we're getting at, because youknow we don't want to spoil
things.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
It's like that conversation between Rachel and
Joey, I think, on Friends, whereit's like I know, you know, or
like I can't tell you until youtell me yeah, I know, do you
know something?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Maybe Do you know something, maybe.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
What do you know?
What do you know?
It's exactly what it's like itis.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I love it, though.
It's so fun, like meeting arandom person who's read the
same book as you.
Like that's cool.
And when you're both like, ohmy gosh, I love that so much.
Like, oh, it's so cool.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I have somebody too that loves to hear like
differing opinions from mine too.
So as much as I love an AdoraSarajeh mask, I do enjoy reading
like the one star reviews orthings for her books, because it
is interesting to see how otherpeople interpret things, and
sometimes they bring up goodpoints that you don't think
about because you're like soswept up in the moment of it all
too.
It's just interesting seeinglike how somebody can have such
(42:40):
a differing opinion from you onlike something so similar.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Or like the same thing it is.
Yeah, I think that's kind ofwhy we work, because I think we
do have a lot of differingopinions on books, on characters
, lots of characters.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, but it works.
It's so good it's forinteresting conversation, hence
the podcast.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, that's what's nice about like books, too, is
it's like your own world, likethese are my friends Like, and
then you get to share it withother people.
But if they have different,differing opinions, it's like
okay, because it's like well,they weren't in my head when I
read it, like these are myfeelings.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Like I don't know Well, or it's even better if,
like, they have a differentpronunciation than you on a
certain character, because, thenyou're like well, it's not even
my character anyway.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Exactly I'm trying to .
When I learn the newpronunciation for certain
characters, like I'll try, butfor some of them like it's just
gonna stay If I learn it earlyon enough in the book, then I
can swap it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
But if I'm already like a third halfway through,
it's my pronunciation now Idon't care what the correct way
to say it is.
This is the way it's gonna befor me, so there's no going back
at that point.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
It's so fun hearing the authors like when they say
it, like when they say namesthat everyone else is
pronouncing differently, butthey wrote it.
So, even if that's not properEnglish like that, literally is
her character Like this is whoshe wants it to be.
This is how she wants itspelled and this is how she
wants it to be said.
So that's right, you know?
Like oh no.
(44:23):
But, it's just like I don't know, authors are so powerful.
This is, I mean.
I found a lot of fun.
I feel like this is really good.
I feel like we've talked a loton this podcast and just this
first episode, and I think it'sgoing to be really good and
really fruitful, because I couldtalk for hours and hours still,
Absolutely, and like we do.
And it's because I'm trying tohold back on certain topics too,
(44:46):
because I know, like, like wecould do a whole episode just on
Goodreads, like which we shouldone day, but like I don't know,
let us know if you have anygood topics you want us to talk
about too.
Or like books you want us toread and discuss Literally
anything.
We're ready to talk aboutanything and everything, because
we clearly love to talk.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, I can't shut up , but we have fun doing it, we
do.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
We do Well.
I feel like we've covered a lotfor this first episode.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
So a little taste of what will come.
We'll be further deep divesinto a lot of these topics later
.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
And definitely really .
This is our first episode, bothof our first time doing a
podcast.
Let us know what you think.
Does this work?
Can you follow us at all, or dowe just sound like we're
jumping from like?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
point A to point Q Do we talk too fast?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Let me know, we'll fix it up.
We want this podcast to begreat.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
And we really want to make more book friends.
But, like we said, I think wementioned this, all right, our
book club next month the worst,best man by Lucy score.
Go ahead, get it, read it.
Or if not, and you don't careabout spoilers and you just want
to hear our voices, then justtune in next episode.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
We always have plenty of opinions to share on books.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
So, but that's what we'll be talking about in our
next episode, but to wrap upthis one, we're going to be
ending each episode with arecurring segment we like to
call boroughs and returns, sosimilar to borrowing and
returning a book at the library.
This is where we're going toget to talk about what books
we're currently reading, or ournext step on our TV R list, and
(46:27):
which books we've just recentlyfinished and want to share our
thoughts on.
So, mikaela, what books are onyour boroughs and returns?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
list.
So my boroughs.
Right now, obviously we're bestman still reading up on our
book club book.
And then House of Sky andBreath.
I did just finish the firstCrescent City book.
I forget the House of Earth andBlood, I think it is.
It's the first one.
I enjoyed it, loved it, readyfor the second one, but not till
(46:56):
I finished book club book first, because that other one is a
commitment, like we talked about, between the difference of
romance and fantasy, my returns.
Recently I read a reallypopular book talk book called A
Little Life by Hanya.
I'm going to really butcherthis name, Yungira Sounds good
(47:17):
to me.
Gonna go with it.
I had seen this for years, likenot years, a year over TikTok
of people talking about justlike how heart-wrenching it is,
but how like beautifully writtenthe story of it all by like
reading the back of it I gotkind of very like a dead poet
society vibe from it.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Is this the one that you were like?
I'm reading it but I know I'mgonna cry.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yes, Okay, yes, I was like I was in an emotional
state and I was like I need, I'mready for this book now.
I want, I want this book and Iread it and I will say it.
It was beautifully written to apoint and it was really, it was
(48:04):
different and it was like itwas really nice for like the
first third of it.
And then it just gets sodepressing and it is one of
those books that it's not like alot of like depressing things,
have at least like some glimmerof hope in the end.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
I was just gonna ask to have some like no, no Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
It was just full on dark despair.
And then there is no hope in theend and everyone dies and who
cares about life andeverything's depressing.
I don't know if I would likethat.
I don't get me wrong, I'm livefor like a good, like heart
wrenching story, but at leastwith like a little bit of like.
It doesn't even have to end onlike a happy note, but just like
the fact that there is hope forsomething happy at the end.
(48:46):
There was not that and it justthe story dragged on for a
really long time and so whenyou're reading something that
depressing for such a long time,I'm like it wasn't for me and
I'm really sad about it becauseI was really looking forward to
it.
Yeah, if you're into reallydeep, depressing books, it is
written beautifully, so maybecheck it out, but it wasn't my
(49:08):
cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I mean, sometimes you are in the mood to cry, so yeah
.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
And it will.
It will do that, so that's good.
What about?
Speaker 1 (49:15):
you.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Derby.
What are your borrows andreturns?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
So borrows.
I am ahead of Michaela withSarah J Mas book, so I'm reading
her most recent book, the thirdCrescent City book, house of
Flame and Shadow.
I'm not really going to sayanything about that because
Michaela has some catching up todo and I literally just started
it last night, so but I'mintrigued for how she's going to
(49:40):
develop.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
You never know what she's going to do, so last
hundred pages of those books,just all her breaks loose.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
So I'm really excited about that one, but that's
going to take me a while, sothis might be one of my borrows
for a little bit, but who knows?
But I'm also reading how to WinFriends and Influence People by
Dale Carnegie.
So it's a self-help book.
I think it's a really famousone.
It is a really well-known one,so it's been okay so far.
I'm doing it.
(50:09):
I'm really doing it like alittle bit at a time, but it's
very interesting all thedifferent things that he says
about people, and a lot of it istrue.
A lot of what he's said so faris just kind of how people are
very self-centered and they onlywant to talk about themselves.
They never want criticism,which, like that's all true.
(50:31):
So it makes sense, when youwant to influence people and win
friends, to not Helps be awareof it.
Yeah, yeah, so to give themlike true praise and maybe watch
your criticism around them ifyou're trying to influence them
into helping you with something.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
I do love the psychology of people.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
It is cool.
I'm trying to let it sit alittle bit and trying to reflect
on it.
So, as I do things, or evenjust my own motivations, I'm
trying to reference the book.
He compares a lot of what weshould do to acting like dogs
and babies, which is funny.
So a dog's almost sole purposeis to love its owner and they
(51:16):
every day.
One of the happiest parts oftheir day is when their owner
comes home and they are soexcited to greet them.
And so he was saying we shouldbe so excited to greet people
and to like it pure love, youknow, really love each other and
I thought that was really cool.
That is cool, yeah.
So I don't know.
Anyway, those are my take.
Yeah, those are my boroughsright now, and then my returns.
(51:38):
I have finished book club bookalready.
So I finished the Worst Bestman by Lucy Score, and then I
finished Everybody Always by BobGoff, and that one was a really
good one too.
Bob Goff is a Christian authorand his stories are really nice.
He's lived a really cool life,so that's one of the reasons why
(52:01):
I really liked it.
He reminds me like a grandpaand it's like oh, tell me more
stories.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I heard you talk about him, so that one's on my
TBR as well.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
It's really sweet and it's not.
Sometimes things can get reallyheavy and, like some self-help
books or faith-based books, canfeel really heavy and really
like hard.
But he keeps it very light andvery happy but still can get
like an emotional point acrossand be really passionate.
(52:31):
Diggs writing yeah, so thoseare my returns.
Love it, yeah.
One way to end this thing.
I can't believe it.
Those were our boroughs andreturns.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
First ones ever.
Yeah, those were our Lazy Girllibrary.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yay, well, we really hope that you liked this episode
.
This is the end of episode one.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Can't believe it.
We did it, long time coming.
We did it and we're here Now.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
hopefully we don't have technical difficulties
saving this.
It all goes quickly for us.
But thanks for listening andwe'll see you next time.
Bye, guys.
Well, dear listeners, we findourselves at the end of another
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Until next time, stay lazy andhappy reading.
Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library, the podcast, where
reading is a pleasure andcaptivating adventures happen
from the comfort of your couch.
I'm your host, darby, and I'mMikaela, and if you've ever
spent more time rearranging yourbookshelf than your priorities,
then you, my friend, are in theright place.
Alright, hello, mikaela, helloDarby, hello listeners.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
We're here, we did it .
Speaker 1 (00:38):
I can't believe it's already been a night for us.
We have I mean, as the namestates, we are Lazy Girl Library
, but yeah, we've had to not belazy tonight and we've had a lot
of technical difficulties, butwe're here.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
A lot of workarounds, but we made it Shout out, josh,
thanks for the help.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yay, but anyway, we're so excited to have you
here.
This is our very first episode,so kind of for this episode, we
really just want to talk aboutthe who, what and why.
So this podcast and, you know,take the opportunity to
introduce ourselves to all ofyou fellow book enthusiasts.
So I guess kind of just hoppingin with like who we are in
(01:15):
introductions I'm Darby, hi,darby.
Hey, sorry, this is weird, I'mstill trying to get used to
talking.
Still a little bit about me,basically the type of reader
that I am.
I have labeled as the presentescapist, which I love.
What does that mean?
It means that I like to escapereality in books and I'm very
(01:39):
present when I read.
Like I am not thinking toodeeply into it, I am living in
the book moment.
I am never guessing the endingor guessing anything.
Actually I am, I'm just there,I'm escaping life.
But then as soon as the bookcloses do not ask me what
happened because I don't know Iwas in the moment.
(02:00):
What type of reader are you,michaela?
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I am definitely the complete opposite.
I consider myself theconspiracy theorist.
So, unlike Darby, who loves tobe present in her books, I am
constantly thinking ahead andcoming up with the wildest
theories of what could happen.
What is going to happen?
I bet this person is going tofall in love with this person,
or this person is the bad guy,whatever.
So I'm always trying to figureout the ending before the ending
(02:27):
can come.
Like a little game for me, theworst.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
A lot of times I'll have read a book before Michaela
and so she sends me all of herthoughts, and the worst is when
I have to try and gaslight herbecause she's correct about
everything and I'm like maybethe best feeling is, like some
of those where I'm like, okay,this one's really outlandish, I
really don't think this is goingto happen, but I'm going to
write it down anyway, and thenit ends up happening.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
Such a validating feeling it does it's good.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Well, actually I don't know the feeling, but I
assume that would be cool.
Alright, our favorite genres.
My favorite genres are fantasythat's probably my top one, but
then I also like romance, and Ireally like self-help books too,
especially like faith-basedones.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
You find really good ones.
Thanks, I always love therecommendations, my favorite
genres.
I also do fantasy.
It's how Darby and I really gotinto this with the Sergey Masks
books.
I also love a good mystery orhistorical fiction, but really
I'm just kind of an eclecticreader.
If there's a good story to it,then I enjoy it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Yeah, what are your top three favorite books,
michaela?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
That's a great question, anything.
Sergey Masks, as we both wellknow.
As you readers will know, yes,I talk about her all the time.
We bond over the trauma of theMassevers.
Specifically, I loved A Courtof Silver Flames I'm a Nesta
girly through and through or theThrone of Glass series.
(03:59):
Just all of them, can't pickone.
They all are at the top thereOutside of fantasy, I loved
Seven and a Half Deaths ofEvelyn Hardcastle by Stuart
Turton.
I hope I pronounced that lastname right.
It is not related to the sevenhusbands of Evelyn Hugo, as many
people like to think when theyhear the name.
(04:21):
Completely different author,premise and everything.
It's definitely more of amystery, but it's one that kept
my head spinning the whole timeas a conspiracy theorist.
It's hard to find those, sothat's top of my list there.
And the third one, I'd say theSong of Achilles by Madeline
Miller.
It's very different than mostbooks that I like to read, but
(04:45):
it was just beautifully written,the prose in it, the visuals
that you have.
I'm also such a sucker forGreek mythology so I loved those
tie-ins there.
Definitely top three, that'sgood, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
I actually haven't read Seven and a Half Deaths of
Evelyn Hardcastle or the Song ofAchilles, but maybe I'll give
those a try.
You have read all of myfavorite books, my top three
favorite books.
I also echo anything by Sarah JMass, and Throne of Glass, I
think, is my favorite series byher.
There was just so many goodcharacters and like there was
(05:24):
not a single one of thosecharacters that I didn't like.
I really just I felt aconnection to all of them.
Really I think this is anunderrated fantasy book and it's
one of my top three favoritebooks is the Serpent and the
Wings of Night by CarissaBroadbent.
I read this book on well, notfully on a plane, but the ending
I read on a plane and, oh mygosh, the people next to me must
(05:47):
have thought I was crazy.
I was crying, I was gasping.
It made me feel all theemotions.
It was so good, it was so good.
I wish I could reread that onefor the first time.
And then I think my thirdfavorite book is I Don't Wait
Anymore by Grace Thornton.
I hope I said that right.
(06:08):
It's been a while since I readthis book, but this one really
helped me at a time in my lifewhere I was just a little lost
in my faith and just wasn't surewhat my purpose was and it just
I don't know.
It really helped me and I justI liked her stories, I liked how
she rated, related things backto God and it just I don't.
All I can say is that, like itenlightened me.
(06:29):
I was reading it and I rememberspecifically I was on a cruise
and there was this one chapterand this one page talking about
a verse and I was just like whoaand for the rest of the trip,
the rest of the day, I was justengulfed and my mind was like
opened up.
It was like a new part of mybrain like started working?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah, it is.
You recommended it to me and Iread it and I keep it by my
bedside.
I have little notes highlightedand everything they go back in
reference because I thoroughlyenjoyed it too.
So I can't echo your thoughtsenough on that.
Yeah, 10 out of 10.
It's a sweet one, I like it.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Okay.
Well, why are we here, like,why are we doing this podcast?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Another great question Darby.
So really, we started.
Well, this is honestly, trulyall because of Darby.
Darby started this.
All all credit goes to herbecause she started the book
club that I joined, which iswhat got me back into reading,
but we can go into that later,and so, oh, shout out book babes
(07:35):
.
By the way, too, that's ourbook club, so we've been reading
together for a while.
You got me into Sarah J Mass,and so we're always texting back
and forth about those books,and, as I've been going on the
journey, after you're holding myhand through it, which I can't
appreciate enough.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
It is funny.
The fact that you read a SarahJ Mass book before me is going
to be weird, it's weird.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I don't think it'll ever come.
We've gotten two said theirways at this point, but we talk
about books all the time.
Because of that and because wehave very similar likes and
dislikes with books, and so myfiance, josh, was always telling
us that we need to start a bookpodcast, to just sit down and
start recording all theseconversations that we'd have
(08:22):
Like, yeah, sure, whatever,eventually, maybe.
And then finally we werehanging out and Derby's like you
know what?
We really should start apodcast.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
For real.
Let's do this.
We talk for hours about booksand I feel like the book
community is so close, but atthe same time I feel like it can
be kind of spaced out, becauseyou don't know who's reading
what.
You don't want to spoilsomething, you don't know if
someone likes something that youlike, or you just don't know if
someone's like a reader.
I feel like sometimes readingcan be intimate.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
So I feel like this is a good place for us to share
and meet more book friends likeourselves, create our own little
community of people to talk toabout all things book related,
which is what you can expectfrom this podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Exactly, we will be rotting on the couch and talking
about books.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Nothing new there.
We're just recording it now.
So things you can expect fromus here we're just going to be
talking about all things bookish.
Really, I'm sharing ourfavorite reads, exploring
different genres.
That is one thing that we loveto do in our book club is we
always pick a different book anda different genre, trying to
(09:33):
expand our horizons, so you'llget a wide range of books from
us.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
On this journey of a podcast, and then also not well,
still related to books, but notjust reading.
We're going to talk aboutpopular bookish topics, things
that circulate on book talk orbookstagram, what's trending,
what are funny memes that we sawJust all things books and
(10:00):
bookish.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
It will be kind of fun too, because we do have such
different reading styles.
You'll get the two differentversions of the books that we're
reading, or two different pointof views for some of these
topics too, and we'd be curiousto hear where you all land on
that spectrum, whether you'remore like me, more like Darby or
(10:23):
somewhere in the middle it'sgoing to be interesting.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm really going to have to focus on taking notes as
I read because, like I said, Iread something and then, once
the book's over, like it's over,like trying to pull the
thoughts out.
Sometimes, luckily, mckay likehas so many notes that it like
jogs my memory.
I'm like oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Idid like that, or no, I didn't
like that, but I think it'll begood.
And so each each month, we'llbe talking about a different
(10:48):
book, and right now, our aim isto do two podcasts a month one
specifically, like on a bookthat we're reading, and then the
other one will be more bookishtopics.
But we are lazy girl library,so Don't take that to heart.
Take it with a grain of salt,we'll get to it when we get to
(11:09):
it.
Learning curves, but that's whatwe're going to try and do.
So welcome to our book club,because that's kind of what this
is.
Each month we're going to bedoing a new book and hopefully
you guys can read with us.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
We'll let you know what the books are, too, so you
can follow along.
This month, I think we're doingthe Worst Best man by LucyScore
, so that'll be the next podcastepisode.
You'll get to hear our thoughtson the book that we're still
currently reading, or at least Iam.
I did, yeah, that is the otherthing.
I feel like Darby is a reallyfast reader, but I'm not, and
(11:43):
I'm a very slow reader.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Okay, but it's like I'm not a fast reader.
I just put off every singleother priority and spend the
hours reading, but it's nothappening fast.
It's definitely like I'm not afast reader.
I just really, I just, yeah,put off all other priorities
sometimes.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
I feel that I'm such a specific type of reader too,
like I'm not somebody that cantune out the world and read
anywhere, I feel like I'm likeone of those plants that needs
like the specific type ofenvironment and soil in order to
thrive.
That's me reading.
I need a certain environment.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
You're like a secular plant, exactly Not too much sun
, not too much water.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I need just the right conditions in order to get into
a book, which can be difficultsometimes, but we're working
through it and I will befinishing the book here soon,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Yeah, we'll get it in by the next podcast, but this
is really fun already.
I'm having fun already.
But also in this episode, sinceit's new and we're talking
about who we are, we kind ofwanted to talk a little bit
about kind of how we got intobooks, because for some people
they don't start really readingor getting into fiction until
(13:00):
like college, while some peoplestart like, as they're a kid,
they just read all growing up.
So we kind of wanted to talkabout our history in reading and
how we grew up.
So for me, I really have alwaysloved reading.
My mom likes to tell this story.
I did a pageant when I was likea baby, like a little.
I was a toddler in Sierra, butonly one's, only one pageant.
(13:21):
But she always tells the storythat when the judges ask what my
favorite toy was, I said a book.
A book was my favorite toy.
It's so cute.
And then I vividly rememberbeing a kid in elementary school
and I loved, loved, lovedperforming.
I thought I was going to be anactress one day.
And so I remember readingcertain books and I would like
(13:44):
sing the pages out loud or likeread them as if it was a
performance and I was like theactress.
And so I definitely read inelementary school and that was
more of like performing to me,with little books.
I know that's weird, no, that'sso awesome though.
But and then in middle school Ihad the sweetest librarian and
(14:05):
she, she just like got me, andshe, she knew what books to like
, point me in the direction toread, because I, I don't know, I
didn't know what to read, andshe just gave me some really
good ones.
So she kind of kept me going.
And then in high schools, whenthings like really like
developed for me but did youread when you were a kid?
Like elementary, middle school?
I did.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
I came from a big family of readers so my mom, she
would read to me every nightbefore bed and that really like
sparked my love of reading,because we've been doing that
from for as long as I canremember.
We would always, whether it'slike picture books or whatever.
When I got a little bit olderwe would even do like chapter
books that I remember and goingthrough.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
Okay, I know like sorry, I don't mean to cut you
off, but I've I don't remember.
Sorry, mom and dad, if you didread chapter books to me, but I
don't ever remember being likereading a chapter book with
another person.
So did you guys just likeliterally read like one chapter
at a time?
Speaker 2 (15:02):
or just how many pages it felt like it's because
of like we always did at night,so like before bed, and we
didn't get in the chapter booksreally until I would say like
third, fourth, fifth grade.
We really stopped after fifthgrade.
She kind of get older.
At that point You're notreading bedtime stories anymore,
but it depended on like howlate it was.
(15:22):
If we just do a chapter or if itwas a little bit earlier, we
might do like one or twochapters kind of thing, and we
just do that every night, like achapter or two every night
until we finish the book.
I'll never forget like ourfavorite series was called the
Santa Paws series, which wasabout it's about like a dog.
I think he was like a rescue orlike a living on the streets
(15:44):
kind of dog and like all theadventures he'd go through
around Christmas time and likehelping kids and like you, know
like, really like goodwill typeof things.
I'm getting air buddies, vibesIf you've seen that movie, kind
of it was and it was just areally like heartwarming and
dogs for a big dog family lovedogs and so, yeah, always around
(16:05):
Christmas time that was likethe big thing that we would read
a lot.
I remember that's cute, butyeah, big, big reading family.
Both my grandmas loved to read,especially my dad's mom.
She's a huge reader, until wetalk about books a lot.
And then my grandpa I willnever forget one summer over
(16:25):
elementary school.
It was the summer betweensecond and third grade.
He was always like giving melittle challenges or things like
that, and so this one he saidthat if I could read 100 books
over the summer, he would giveme a hundred one dollar bills,
which for me I like seven, eightyears old, I'm like, oh my gosh
, I'm going to be rich.
(16:46):
This is me right now.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
That was the offer Easy.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
And so I would.
I went through and they weren't, like you know, like picture
books, like easy books, likethey had to be, like more like
real books.
I did, I did do it.
Hundred bucks in the summer.
A lot of Junie B Jones lovedher, but we did it and I will,
yep.
I will never forget thatfeeling of being at the bank and
the lady counting out a hundredone dollar bills for me.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Wow, that's, that's impressive.
My good reads go.
Last year I read 24 books inthe year and I was like this is
amazing, this is crazy.
I can't imagine a hundred booksover the summer.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
I was motivated man.
I wanted that, I wanted thatmoney?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, it was a great it really did.
Speaker 2 (17:31):
It was a great motivator for me, like through
life too.
It kept me reading at thatpoint because it's like Pavlov's
dog meat.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
You're like drooling as the pages are flipping.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Give it to me.
So yeah, big reader, bigreading, family love it.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
That's so fun.
What is your first book memoryas a child?
Speaker 2 (17:54):
I know you you mentioned Junie B Jones.
Yeah, junie B Jones, for sure.
That was like the first realchapter books I got into.
I feel like that's a staple fora lot of people.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Oh yeah, I read Junie B Jones yeah.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
You can't not read Junie.
We love Junie, oh yeah, um,sass Master for sure.
But the other one that's moreobscure, it was called
Clementine by Sarah PennyPackard and it was a very
similar kind of style to Junie BJones.
But I just related withClementine so much because she
(18:26):
had like this restlessness abouther, like getting distracted in
class or just like not wantingto do things.
How my parents didn't figureout I have ADHD at that point.
I don't know but relating tothis girl so much and it was
just a very different vibe toJunie B Jones, even though
they're like similar, very, verydifferent.
(18:47):
And I remember absolutelyloving that book and reading it
to death when I was a little.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
I feel like that one sounds similar to me.
I need to look that one up.
If maybe I might have read thatone too, but I can't remember.
I will say I'm so excited tohave kids one day and to read to
them, and I think part of itgoes back to me like perform,
like I can't wait to be eachlike character.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Do fun voices.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Like they're all going to have different accents.
I think it's going to be reallyfun.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Performance.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, but to get to read them like our favorite
books.
My first childhood memory bookwould be all Dr Seuss ones, so
like the green eggs and ham.
I think I knew that one byheart at one point.
It's such a it's just such aniconic book, so it's going to be
cool to like read those.
And then also where thesidewalk ends, by Shel
(19:41):
Silverstein, so nostalgic,talking about performing again.
That's what reading was to mein elementary school.
But I would sing those little,all those little stories.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Some of them were so dramatic and easy to get into.
The perform yes, great one, sonostalgic.
And then what about?
Like your first young adultbook I remember reading it's
called cry of the ice mark.
I don't remember the author,but this was like my first step
into fantasy.
This was in fifth grade and itwas like young heroin who can
(20:15):
take care of herself and she waslike really independent, had
the kind of like Ron stoppable,kim possible vibe to it with
like the love interest, whichwas great.
And I remember absolutelyloving that book so much.
And it's tragic because Ididn't learn that it was a
(20:37):
series until literally this year, and then I could have been
reading the full series but Ididn't know it was a series.
I thought it was a standalonebook, and so now I feel like I
need to go back and revisit thisbook you do?
Speaker 1 (20:49):
How long is the series?
How many books are there?
Speaker 2 (20:52):
I don't know, but I do know that there's at least
two or three more, I think.
So I feel like I need to goback and revisit this.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
I do think at some point, maybe even like with the
podcast, we should pick out someof our like childhood books or
like our first YA books.
My first one was it was calledwings by Apriline Pike, which is
really funny because it's aboutthis girl finding out that she
is like a fairy, like sorryspoiler alert but fairies from
(21:22):
the stars.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Exactly.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
And now I'm obsessed with Sarah J Mass, but it's
literally I don't remember a lotof it.
I do remember there was a lovetriangle.
I think we love a love trianglebut it's like this girls in
high school.
And she wakes up and there'slike a lump on her back and
she's like what is this?
But of course she's not tellingher parents or anyone.
And then she grows wings andinstead of telling people, she
(21:46):
like ties them down, like behindher back, so she can wear
shirts and stuff to school, andthen I can't I could be
butchering some of this becauseit was in middle school but I
think what happens then is likeshe like meets an actual fairy
and he's like I know what'swrong, but like I know you have
wings.
The beginning of it?
Yes so that was probably myfirst one.
(22:07):
And then when I got to highschool I kind of like I was
going through like a wait, likeI dropped reading a little bit.
But then this girl we all gothrough that yeah, this girl in
my chemistry class I remembershe was reading a book and I was
like really intrigued she also.
I thought she was cool.
So she was reading this bookand I was like I wonder what
(22:29):
that is.
And I asked her and it was thematched trilogy.
I don't know if you ever readit.
I've heard you talk about itbefore.
Yeah, it was like my first introinto like a dystopian like
series and so that was prettycool.
Again, another love triangle,but Love it.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, for me in high school it was all about Percy
Jackson and John Green.
Those are my two big, big booksthat I absolutely loved.
I ate up the Percy Jacksonagain, with the Greek mythology
obsessed.
And then John Green just gotjust felt so emotional and deep
and they were really it justlike, especially at that age,
(23:05):
you're like no one understands.
It had the teen angst Yep,that's exactly the word.
Teen angst to it.
For sure that I ate up.
I loved it, plus all of hissymbolism, because I was really
into that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I know a lot of people hated that I probably
didn't get any of that when Iread them back in the day.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
It's like everybody's least favorite part of English
class is like but why were thedrapes red?
But that was my absolutefavorite.
I loved finding all thesymbolism in meeting, so, john
Green, was it for me?
Speaker 1 (23:34):
I also went through a John Green phase.
I'm trying to think what myfavorite book by him was but I
can't, I don't know.
They feel so long ago.
But I definitely liked lookingfor Alaska, that one I really
liked, and I liked Abundance ofCatherine, right.
But I think now my memory ofthat one is skewed because of
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the movie.
So now I don't know what wasthe book and what was the movie,
since that was so long ago.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
I loved Fault in Our Stars, obviously.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I actually never read that one, I only saw the movie,
really yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I loved the book.
The movie was cute too, but thebook's always better.
But I did love looking forAlaska.
I did a lot of like bookreports and stuff on that one,
because that one I think was myfavorite too.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
I think the series I was obsessed with in high school
was the Selection series.
With this girl on my cheer team.
She recommended it to me, orshe was reading it at the time,
and I ate it up.
Oh my gosh, it was like it,like how do you explain it?
Speaker 2 (24:36):
It was like a bachelor meets dystopian
princesses.
Yes, yes, yes, that's literally, I think.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
On the back of the book it says like the bachelor
meets the hunger games is whatit says, and like it's
definitely a YA book.
But it's just, oh, it was sogood.
I recently reread it, like acouple years ago, and it's still
.
It's still hit the same.
I was like, oh, this is good.
A little more like nostalgicthis time, sure, but I was like,
oh, this is this is good.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I did read the first one from your recommendation.
I did really enjoy it, it wasreally cool and it's a really
interesting concept because it'snot something that like as much
as like dystopian novels weresuch like the rage at that time.
And very much was its own thingit was very original, unlike
some of them that kind of feellike copy paste a little bit.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
It was very much its own thing and I really
appreciated that.
Yeah, I it's definitely like.
When I read it the second time,it definitely had a little more
like a kid feel to it,especially now that we're
reading more adult books.
But I don't know, I think thatone will always be one of my
favorites and like who doesn'twant to dress up?
Absolutely, I don't know.
That was a good one.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
So, coming back to the reading journey, I do again
gotta give Derby her props,because I was always in and out
of reading depending on what wasgoing on at the time,
especially when we got tocollege.
I really got out of it Becauseat that point you're like you're
reading textbooks, you're busystudying.
I didn't have the time to readthe way that I was in middle
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school and high school, but thenI met Derby and Derby and
Shelby started this book cluband we read a court of thorns
and roses.
Actually, the first book wasSeven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo,
which I appreciated, but theirsecond book was a court of
thorns and roses, and that justsprint.
(26:23):
It was a sprint.
After that I just took offrunning and never stopped.
Speaker 1 (26:27):
It's so funny because I was.
I remember at the time I was sonervous recommending a court of
thorns and roses.
I was like they are going tothink this is so weird.
I'm trying to explain it tothem and for anyone that reads
fantasy you know that trying toexplain it to someone it sounds
like you're an idiot.
You're like oh yeah, there'sthis fairy and a different work.
(26:47):
But they're not like littlefairies, they're like big,
muscular, powerful, magicalfairies and it's like that.
It does not come across the wayit's supposed to.
It just doesn't sound enticing.
But it's like there's war,there's like romance, drama.
But I remember I was so scaredrecommending that book.
But I was similar to you.
(27:07):
I like read kind of dropped offin college, at least with
fiction wise.
I kept up with self help booksI was in college but I really
just kind of dropped all likefiction.
And then this girl who Iinterned with at Make-A-Wish.
She was reading a court ofthorns and roses and she she
(27:28):
made it sound good and Iremember she was like, but
there's a little bit of spiceand I was like I've never read a
book with spice.
I don't even know what thatmeans.
And yeah, I think once you reada court of thorns and roses,
you get the bug.
Like her writing is just likemagical.
I think it might be like like apotion, or like you read it and
(27:50):
like I'm going to trance, likeI have to keep going.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
It is.
It's one of those that once youstarted, you can't stop it's
it's sectioned until you finish.
All everything, all the books.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
Yeah, but I think our breaks are over.
We, we did that.
We read a court of thorns androses and we've been all gas, no
breaks, yeah, Flying throughever since.
Mm-hmm.
But realistically, like whereyou at now reading wise, here
you're reading journey.
I have slowed down a bit.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
So like that first year back, mm-hmm, there was
pedal to the metal.
I was cruising through books.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
You were doing like two or three, you're ready for a
hundred ready to go around formy money.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
No, but yeah, I was just non-stop.
I mean, they talk about beinglike a bookworm or a book dragon
.
It's like bookworms like justdevour books constantly, versus
book dragons like hoard bookseven though you don't read them.
I feel like I a hundred percentof both, where I was like
constantly just reading anddevouring book after book, but
(28:57):
then I was collecting books atlike twice the pace that I was
reading them to.
Now I have this huge physicalTBR, yeah, that I've.
Now that I've slowed down, I'mlike okay, we got it, we got to
take this down before I'mallowed to touch anything.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Barnes and Noble okay , see, I'm different in that I
have maybe two physical booksright now that I haven't read.
Like if I buy a book, I amreading it.
Then, like I do not havephysical TBRs, like if I want to
read a book I'm gonna get it orit's gonna stay in my, like
good reads, want to read.
I saw this really.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
I don't know who said it.
I think it was like I saw it onTikTok or something.
It was a quote by somebodytalking about how they treat
books like fine wine and thenwhen you're collecting them it's
just like sitting in the cellar.
It's not the right time.
Yet you got to let it ageproperly before you touch it and
I feel like that's very muchhow I treat books.
Speaker 1 (29:49):
I love that analogy.
I'm like book people are sosmart, I know.
Speaker 2 (29:53):
I cannot take credit.
That is not me, don't come atme.
That was not whoever createdthat saying or in that quote.
All credit goes to you, not anoriginal.
But I do love it and Idefinitely it makes me feel a
little bit better about myendless TBR.
Yeah, I get you.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
I think I also.
I did not go as hard as you,but I definitely was like really
ramping up.
After we started book club Iwas going so hard, so fast, like
I just wanted to keep going,keep going, keep going, and now
I think I'm in a I pretty likeconsistent, like I try to read
two books a month is kind oflike my goal.
So it's like normally our bookclub book and then one like
(30:33):
extra curricular right look likethat's just on my TBR.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
I think it's a totally doable goal.
Yeah, and like something easythat I'm trying to do too.
I was hard after the holidaysand things got crazy and Darby
got married, so we were goingthrough all the wedding planning
and fun stuff.
Yeah, that's that, but and nowMichaela's engaged, so she's up
next, but we're taking our timeon that one, but also should
(31:01):
enjoy the time it's also whyslowing down a little bit so
it's said, I'm not, it's notgonna be as crazy as it was
before for me, but definitely Ithink the two books a month is
totally doable and an easy goalto keep for the both of us yeah,
also I was thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
I think the term book hangover is so real too that
sometimes, when you've read sucha good book like one, you like
want to read another book, butat the same time it's like you
know it's not gonna be as good.
So then it's like kingdom ofash.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm gonna cry, I think that happens too.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
It's weird now that, like I feel like we're so so
much more into books now thanwhen we first became friends.
And it's funny.
I was talking to Justin myhusband shout out hubby we were
talking about like how we'vechanged and our relationship has
changed and one of the firstthings he said was like well,
you definitely read a lot morethan what we first started going
(32:03):
out.
But I don't know.
I just think you, you kind ofjust get into your own like zone
and routine of reading and Ifeel like now we've hit like a
routine.
Like before we were trying tofigure out like I want
everything, I want to read now,and now we're like I do want to
read everything, but that'simpossible.
So we're gonna take it as itcomes.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
Yep, fantastic way to put it.
Yeah, josh really appreciatesmy book obsession because, same
thing like I, was not reading asmuch when we first started
dating, but now it gives himtime to go out and play golf
because he knows it's like hey,did you see?
Like have you started thelatest book?
Or for book club?
You know like you shouldprobably get on that.
(32:43):
And he's like oh, by the way,I'm also leaving for tea time.
That.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I'll see you later.
That's Justin, but with videogames.
So he loves that.
He gets to hang out with hisfriends and play video games and
I go read with the dog, butit's funny.
I've tried to read while heplays video games.
I can't.
He's so loud that I it's justnot doable.
Like, or you know, you get in azone during some some scenes of
(33:09):
books and then when they'reyelling, I'm like, all right, I
need a different setting.
I cannot.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
I will say Josh is very talented.
He has a sixth sense forknowing when those scenes come
up and that is exactly when hechooses.
That we're gonna have like areally great conversation about
something asking me ranquestions.
They can be sitting on the couchfor a couple hours not talking
and I'm reading the book.
As soon as I get to a spicypart I'm not even kidding like a
(33:34):
few words in and he immediatelyis like now is the greatest
time for me to ask what are wedoing about dinner?
Well, you know like, oh, weshould go see this next movie
that's coming out.
I hope he hears this right now.
He's in another room right nowand I really hope Josh is here,
he knows I tell him and hethinks it's funny.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
He does nothing to change it, but it's fine it is
funny too, like when you'rereading and you're like trying
to finish a chapter and they askyou a question and it's like
two more pages, like hold on, Ican't focus.
And then they ask you anotherquestion.
I'm like one more page, hold on, let me just get to a stopping
point.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Oh no, josh knows like if he sees that I'm down at
the end, he won't bother me.
Yeah, otherwise I'll have todeal with the consequences of
that, and he doesn't want todeal with that that's so good.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
That's so good.
But I'm really excited aboutthis and about our podcast.
I think it's gonna be so muchfun and, like we said, we're
kind of in like a nice routine,so we're excited to just talk
about books with more people.
We really want to hear from youguys and hopefully you like the
books that we're reading, butif not, let us know and give us
(34:41):
recommendations for books thatyou think are way better than
the books that we're reading, oreven if you just have
recommendations for us.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
Our TBRs are endless, so you know what's one more,
two more books to add to itexactly, exactly.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
I know we both love Sarah J Mass, but we both are
late to the fourth wing craze,so we both do have the book
already.
No, but it is on my list.
That's on mine too.
I just actually bought both ofthem.
I think it's Iron Flame is thesecond one, so I figured we were
gonna read those eventually,but I do.
I've heard such good thingsabout them.
(35:13):
I think that'll be my next likefantasy book, after Chris and
City all over book talk.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, it's definitely on my on my list after I finish
.
The Chris and City House of Skyand Breath is next one, for me
at least, I think I'm gonna takea little bit of a fantasy break
, do a little palette.
You need a fantasy break and Icall them palette cleanses,
because otherwise, if you gofrom one fantasy to the next,
(35:41):
they start to blend and they domuch they just doesn't work for
me, then joy.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
It's the worst when they use the same names for
characters and you're like oh no, or the same like place names.
That has really thrown me.
I'm like what world am I in?
Like I don't know.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Sometimes I've gotten like something like is too
similar or like the magicsystems are really really
similar, but then, there's likeone nuance difference that you
forget about yes, yeah, I need,especially after a Sarah J Mass
type of fantasy book.
I need a break before I go in.
Yeah, to anything else.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
Yeah, I don't know what the next one will be, but
my breaks are usually like aromance book, cuz compared to
the thick fantasy books, it'ssuch like a quick read, yeah,
like I think the newest Sarah JMass book is like 102 chapters
over 800 pages.
And then I get a romance bookand it's like half that or even
(36:36):
less than that order of it.
Yeah, whoa, this is me so quick.
Yeah, and that's why it lookslike I'm reading it so fast,
because in comparison it's solittle, it's true.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Yeah, all depends on the timing you have to, which
you know we're adults, whichsucks, and being in an adult
world sucks.
Next, all you want to do is siton the couch and be lazy and
read books all day.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Yeah, so if you all could listen and share this, so
that we can make this ourfull-time gig and not have to
work, that would be great,because we are not meant for
corporate world but so, speakingof book club and books, like we
said, we are reading the worst,best man right now by Lucy
(37:19):
score.
So, on our next podcast, that'sgonna be the book that we're
talking about.
So if you want to read itbeforehand so you can kind of
understand sort of referenceswe're talking to, we're really
gonna try, and when we talkabout books, if we're gonna talk
about spoilers or get into thenitty-gritty, we're gonna try
and break it up so that if youstill want to listen to the
(37:41):
podcast but haven't read thebook, we are hoping to give you
like time slots where you canlike skip ahead.
Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like if we want to talk about the actual plot and
stuff, we'll say, okay, skip tominute 23 or something, and then
you can listen to the podcastbut not necessarily hear all the
specifics about the book andthe spoilers right, and so if,
like, the episode comes outbefore you finish the book,
because you're joining us forbook club, you can still listen
(38:09):
to everything that's going on,and then later, when you finish
the book, you know exactly whereto go for all of our thoughts
on it.
Yeah, so no spoilers here.
We hate spoilers.
Coming across them.
Bookstagram is the worst aboutit.
It is.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
You will not find them here you okay, you know
it's crazy.
I'm not gonna say like thespoiler for people who haven't
read it, but one of myco-workers, I got her to read a
court of thorns and roses andshe wanted to look up the
characters.
But she looked up one of themain characters while she was
reading the first book, but thenit shows a lot of characters
(38:47):
from future books and it it likeruined it for her.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
That is one you cannot.
If anybody has yet to read aquarter thorns and rosin's and
you're listening to this, do not, do not, do not look up
anything while reading thatseries.
Speaker 1 (39:01):
It will ruin it for you, literally email or email
who you want to see.
We will find the character andwe will send you a fan art of
just that character, but if youlook up one, you're going to get
all of them.
Yep, yeah, also sorry, we'regoing to talk about Sarah J Mass
a lot.
So, speaking of Court ofFlorence and Roses again, do you
remember our friend Samantha?
She poor girl.
(39:22):
She read, I think, the firstone and then, before starting
the second one, she startedreading like the last one.
Yes, and that ruined it for hertoo.
Oh my, that broke my heart.
I was like the fact that you'renot going to get to like.
See that play out naturally,but you just had to like,
Because I don't know how muchthat second book would hit,
knowing the spoilers for it.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
I don't know it's heart wrenching knowing yeah.
Like, oh my gosh, you poorsouls who have had that spoiled
for you, I feel for you, I'mhere for you, you're in my
thoughts and prayers, yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
We love books to gram book talk and all the memes,
but at the same time, pleasekeep it away.
Even publishing places likeisn't Bloomsbury, they're just
out here posting things.
That was wild for the NewCrescent City book, which I do
get it to an extent, because Iwas reading some of the comments
on one of them and some peopleare like, well yeah, we read the
(40:19):
other one when it first cameout.
We've been waiting two years.
We want these little likesnippets.
So I get it Like I can't be mad.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
I just now know like I am not going to look on those
sites or look at photos or butit's really hard when it's like
you can't blame the publishingcompany for putting some of that
stuff out or for people beingexcited.
But it's really hard when youdon't go looking for things like
that but you find them anywayBecause, like, obviously I know
that the new Serger Mass book iscoming out, so I'm not going to
(40:48):
look on all of these differentplaces that I normally am for,
you know, books, grand book,talk, whatever.
But they still find you anywayand that's the frustrating part
of it, there's nothing you cando about it.
It's just the way of the world.
At this point, Nobody's fault.
But oh, it's frustrating.
You know what?
Speaker 1 (41:06):
I'm thinking about as we're like talking about like
Serger Mass and kind of liketalking around spoilers, like
being in the book community,it's like you have to talk in
coded messages.
Like you, when you're talkingabout a book or a sequel or
literally anything, you don'twant to give anything away
because it, like reading, givesyou such a like I don't know
(41:28):
it's like a high it is, and solike you can't take that away
from someone.
So you're just like I don'tknow.
I feel like it kind of soundcrazy talking right now, Like I
hope the listeners can likefollow along with us, like what
we're getting at, because youknow we don't want to spoil
things.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
It's like that conversation between Rachel and
Joey, I think, on Friends, whereit's like I know, you know, or
like I can't tell you until youtell me yeah, I know, do you
know something?
Speaker 1 (41:57):
Maybe Do you know something, maybe.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
What do you know?
What do you know?
It's exactly what it's like itis.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
I love it, though.
It's so fun, like meeting arandom person who's read the
same book as you.
Like that's cool.
And when you're both like, ohmy gosh, I love that so much.
Like, oh, it's so cool.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
I have somebody too that loves to hear like
differing opinions from mine too.
So as much as I love an AdoraSarajeh mask, I do enjoy reading
like the one star reviews orthings for her books, because it
is interesting to see how otherpeople interpret things, and
sometimes they bring up goodpoints that you don't think
about because you're like soswept up in the moment of it all
too.
It's just interesting seeinglike how somebody can have such
(42:40):
a differing opinion from you onlike something so similar.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
Or like the same thing it is.
Yeah, I think that's kind ofwhy we work, because I think we
do have a lot of differingopinions on books, on characters
, lots of characters.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
Yeah, but it works.
It's so good it's forinteresting conversation, hence
the podcast.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, that's what's nice about like books, too, is
it's like your own world, likethese are my friends Like, and
then you get to share it withother people.
But if they have different,differing opinions, it's like
okay, because it's like well,they weren't in my head when I
read it, like these are myfeelings.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
Like I don't know Well, or it's even better if,
like, they have a differentpronunciation than you on a
certain character, because, thenyou're like well, it's not even
my character anyway.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
Exactly I'm trying to .
When I learn the newpronunciation for certain
characters, like I'll try, butfor some of them like it's just
gonna stay If I learn it earlyon enough in the book, then I
can swap it.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
But if I'm already like a third halfway through,
it's my pronunciation now Idon't care what the correct way
to say it is.
This is the way it's gonna befor me, so there's no going back
at that point.
Speaker 1 (43:59):
It's so fun hearing the authors like when they say
it, like when they say namesthat everyone else is
pronouncing differently, butthey wrote it.
So, even if that's not properEnglish like that, literally is
her character Like this is whoshe wants it to be.
This is how she wants itspelled and this is how she
wants it to be said.
So that's right, you know?
Like oh no.
(44:23):
But, it's just like I don't know, authors are so powerful.
This is, I mean.
I found a lot of fun.
I feel like this is really good.
I feel like we've talked a loton this podcast and just this
first episode, and I think it'sgoing to be really good and
really fruitful, because I couldtalk for hours and hours still,
Absolutely, and like we do.
And it's because I'm trying tohold back on certain topics too,
(44:46):
because I know, like, like wecould do a whole episode just on
Goodreads, like which we shouldone day, but like I don't know,
let us know if you have anygood topics you want us to talk
about too.
Or like books you want us toread and discuss Literally
anything.
We're ready to talk aboutanything and everything, because
we clearly love to talk.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yeah, I can't shut up , but we have fun doing it, we
do.
Speaker 1 (45:12):
We do Well.
I feel like we've covered a lotfor this first episode.
Speaker 2 (45:16):
So a little taste of what will come.
We'll be further deep divesinto a lot of these topics later
.
Speaker 1 (45:23):
And definitely really .
This is our first episode, bothof our first time doing a
podcast.
Let us know what you think.
Does this work?
Can you follow us at all, or dowe just sound like we're
jumping from like?
Speaker 2 (45:34):
point A to point Q Do we talk too fast?
Speaker 1 (45:38):
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Let me know, we'll fix it up.
We want this podcast to begreat.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
And we really want to make more book friends.
But, like we said, I think wementioned this, all right, our
book club next month the worst,best man by Lucy score.
Go ahead, get it, read it.
Or if not, and you don't careabout spoilers and you just want
to hear our voices, then justtune in next episode.
Speaker 2 (46:03):
We always have plenty of opinions to share on books.
Speaker 1 (46:06):
So, but that's what we'll be talking about in our
next episode, but to wrap upthis one, we're going to be
ending each episode with arecurring segment we like to
call boroughs and returns, sosimilar to borrowing and
returning a book at the library.
This is where we're going toget to talk about what books
we're currently reading, or ournext step on our TV R list, and
(46:27):
which books we've just recentlyfinished and want to share our
thoughts on.
So, mikaela, what books are onyour boroughs and returns?
Speaker 2 (46:35):
list.
So my boroughs.
Right now, obviously we're bestman still reading up on our
book club book.
And then House of Sky andBreath.
I did just finish the firstCrescent City book.
I forget the House of Earth andBlood, I think it is.
It's the first one.
I enjoyed it, loved it, readyfor the second one, but not till
(46:56):
I finished book club book first, because that other one is a
commitment, like we talked about, between the difference of
romance and fantasy, my returns.
Recently I read a reallypopular book talk book called A
Little Life by Hanya.
I'm going to really butcherthis name, Yungira Sounds good
(47:17):
to me.
Gonna go with it.
I had seen this for years, likenot years, a year over TikTok
of people talking about justlike how heart-wrenching it is,
but how like beautifully writtenthe story of it all by like
reading the back of it I gotkind of very like a dead poet
society vibe from it.
Speaker 1 (47:40):
Is this the one that you were like?
I'm reading it but I know I'mgonna cry.
Speaker 2 (47:43):
Yes, Okay, yes, I was like I was in an emotional
state and I was like I need, I'mready for this book now.
I want, I want this book and Iread it and I will say it.
It was beautifully written to apoint and it was really, it was
(48:04):
different and it was like itwas really nice for like the
first third of it.
And then it just gets sodepressing and it is one of
those books that it's not like alot of like depressing things,
have at least like some glimmerof hope in the end.
Speaker 1 (48:19):
I was just gonna ask to have some like no, no Okay.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
It was just full on dark despair.
And then there is no hope in theend and everyone dies and who
cares about life andeverything's depressing.
I don't know if I would likethat.
I don't get me wrong, I'm livefor like a good, like heart
wrenching story, but at leastwith like a little bit of like.
It doesn't even have to end onlike a happy note, but just like
the fact that there is hope forsomething happy at the end.
(48:46):
There was not that and it justthe story dragged on for a
really long time and so whenyou're reading something that
depressing for such a long time,I'm like it wasn't for me and
I'm really sad about it becauseI was really looking forward to
it.
Yeah, if you're into reallydeep, depressing books, it is
written beautifully, so maybecheck it out, but it wasn't my
(49:08):
cup of tea.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
I mean, sometimes you are in the mood to cry, so yeah
.
Speaker 2 (49:12):
And it will.
It will do that, so that's good.
What about?
Speaker 1 (49:15):
you.
Speaker 2 (49:15):
Derby.
What are your borrows andreturns?
Speaker 1 (49:19):
So borrows.
I am ahead of Michaela withSarah J Mas book, so I'm reading
her most recent book, the thirdCrescent City book, house of
Flame and Shadow.
I'm not really going to sayanything about that because
Michaela has some catching up todo and I literally just started
it last night, so but I'mintrigued for how she's going to
(49:40):
develop.
Speaker 2 (49:41):
You never know what she's going to do, so last
hundred pages of those books,just all her breaks loose.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
So I'm really excited about that one, but that's
going to take me a while, sothis might be one of my borrows
for a little bit, but who knows?
But I'm also reading how to WinFriends and Influence People by
Dale Carnegie.
So it's a self-help book.
I think it's a really famousone.
It is a really well-known one,so it's been okay so far.
I'm doing it.
(50:09):
I'm really doing it like alittle bit at a time, but it's
very interesting all thedifferent things that he says
about people, and a lot of it istrue.
A lot of what he's said so faris just kind of how people are
very self-centered and they onlywant to talk about themselves.
They never want criticism,which, like that's all true.
(50:31):
So it makes sense, when youwant to influence people and win
friends, to not Helps be awareof it.
Yeah, yeah, so to give themlike true praise and maybe watch
your criticism around them ifyou're trying to influence them
into helping you with something.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
I do love the psychology of people.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
It is cool.
I'm trying to let it sit alittle bit and trying to reflect
on it.
So, as I do things, or evenjust my own motivations, I'm
trying to reference the book.
He compares a lot of what weshould do to acting like dogs
and babies, which is funny.
So a dog's almost sole purposeis to love its owner and they
(51:16):
every day.
One of the happiest parts oftheir day is when their owner
comes home and they are soexcited to greet them.
And so he was saying we shouldbe so excited to greet people
and to like it pure love, youknow, really love each other and
I thought that was really cool.
That is cool, yeah.
So I don't know.
Anyway, those are my take.
Yeah, those are my boroughsright now, and then my returns.
(51:38):
I have finished book club bookalready.
So I finished the Worst Bestman by Lucy Score, and then I
finished Everybody Always by BobGoff, and that one was a really
good one too.
Bob Goff is a Christian authorand his stories are really nice.
He's lived a really cool life,so that's one of the reasons why
(52:01):
I really liked it.
He reminds me like a grandpaand it's like oh, tell me more
stories.
Speaker 2 (52:07):
I heard you talk about him, so that one's on my
TBR as well.
Speaker 1 (52:10):
It's really sweet and it's not.
Sometimes things can get reallyheavy and, like some self-help
books or faith-based books, canfeel really heavy and really
like hard.
But he keeps it very light andvery happy but still can get
like an emotional point acrossand be really passionate.
(52:31):
Diggs writing yeah, so thoseare my returns.
Love it, yeah.
One way to end this thing.
I can't believe it.
Those were our boroughs andreturns.
Speaker 2 (52:44):
First ones ever.
Yeah, those were our Lazy Girllibrary.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yay, well, we really hope that you liked this episode
.
This is the end of episode one.
Speaker 2 (52:55):
Can't believe it.
We did it, long time coming.
We did it and we're here Now.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
hopefully we don't have technical difficulties
saving this.
It all goes quickly for us.
But thanks for listening andwe'll see you next time.
Bye, guys.
Well, dear listeners, we findourselves at the end of another
(53:22):
episode and remember, the LazyGirl library is not just a
podcast.
It's a community.
We absolutely love hearing fromfellow book lovers, so don't
forget to share your thoughtsand your favorite reads with us
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You can find us on Instagram atLazy Girl library.
Make sure to check out ourwebsite, lazygirllibrarycom your
(53:42):
one stop shop for all thingsLazy Girl.
Before we go, we want to take amoment to thank all of our
wonderful listeners, whetheryou're listening from your cozy
bed, on your way to work oranywhere in between.
Thank you for making us a partof your day and for being a part
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So keep those pages turning,keep those imaginations
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(54:05):
discovered.
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