How Running A Marathon Has Lead to an Incredible Business

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Probably one of my battles was always trying to be
someone I wasn't.
You know you're lookingsideways at what everyone else
is doing.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
You're dropping a bomb there, mate.

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Run your own race.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
G'day guys.
Welcome back to another episodeof Level Up.
We are back in the sheds thisafternoon.
We've got a new backdrop at themoment, so stay tuned over the
coming episodes as we make somemore improvements to that.
But we've got an absolutecracker coming for you today.
Luke Dahlke's, I think, is thatyour right name, mate.
I always say your name wrongDahlke Dahlke, luke Dahlke.
So Luke is one of our Live LifeBuild Elevate members.

(00:39):
We've known each other forprobably three, three and a half
years now.
The improvement that this guyhas had is insane.
I'm keen to go pretty deeptoday, mate, because you've done
a lot of work, just not on yourbusiness, but a lot on yourself
.
So thanks for coming and havinga chat.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
No, absolutely no.
Thanks for having me.
And yeah, like you say, gowherever you like to, because,
yeah, I really believe stronglythat you've just got to live out
who you are.
And I'm a, I run a buildingbusiness, but deep down that's
not exactly who I am.
So but, yeah, looking forwardto the chat yeah, well, let's
look.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
I'm keen to talk about everything, mate, like
identity, especially because Iknow you've done a lot of work
on that.
So I think the building stuffand the and the industry stuff
and the trade I think that'sjust going to come out through
this conversation, but I talk alot on this podcast about how
you can have all the tools andsystems and processes you need
to run a great business, butit's all pretty useless if

(01:36):
you're not right yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
I mean for me, I got into building through I was
actually a boilermaker when Ileft school but come off a farm
pretty marginal farming propertyI was actually a boiler maker
when I left school but come offa farm pretty marginal farming
property I suppose and so yousaw mum and dad do it pretty
tough, but then you come intodoing a trade.
Then moving on to putting upsteel framed houses is basically
where I started the housingthing and then basically now

(02:00):
into running the business.
But for me, and what we'veprobably really worked on in
more of the last six months, Ithink, is really identified for
our business what our realpurpose is and also then
transferring that into what ourcore values are.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
So yeah, Can we dive into that a bit, because it's
something we talk a lot about inLive Like Build.
Do you mind sharing the story,because you put it on your team
and I know I've done this aswell?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
When you said to your team, what's our core values?
Yeah, what'd they say?
Well, when we went into this,we didn't even probably ask them
, because it was a little bitlike what does it even mean?
Because us ourselves didn'teven really know what they were.
You know, and you talk about ateam culture and those sorts of
things as well, but we felt wehad a good team culture, we knew
sort of what our values were,but to actually really knuckle
them down and actually name themas well, then when we gave that

(02:51):
to our team, they were the onesthat actually go.
It's interesting you've now saidthat these are your values,
because that's what I've pickedup off of.
I've got five guys on our team,but the comment came from the
second guy that we brought on.
He goes.
Well, those values are whatRussell has actually taught me
for the 12 or 18 months thatI've now been into it and now

(03:13):
he's been with us five years.
They actually resonated withthe team because of naming them,
but they resonated with thembecause it's essentially what
they're living out as well onsite.
We've taken another stepfurther to really fine-tune what
the behaviours of those valuesare as well, and it's just given
us a real awesome foundation, Isuppose, for our whole business

(03:34):
moving forward.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
So yeah, can you give us an idea of what some of
those values are?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah.
So our purpose is we want tomake building homes an enjoyable
experience.
That's our business purpose andout of that our values are
genuine, professional, healthand education.
So we've got four main valuesand out of those it's really
interesting as we were divingdeep into them the genuine one

(04:00):
came off the back of Lisathought oh, we want to have fun
at work and we're sort of like,well, we don't want to come
across that we don't care either, but at the same time we want
to be professional, we want tobe fun, we want to have a good
time at work.
Make sure, not only our ownemployees, but our
subcontractors, our suppliers,our designers, that we're

(04:21):
working with the clients are allhaving an enjoyable building
experience and that we're allgenuine people.
So straightaway you can startto identify those types of
things.
What does professional looklike?
What does health look like forus?

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I think it's awesome that you've included health.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
We're starting to move towards this more healthy
home type of building.
Looking at your ventilatorcavities, all these types of
things, good moisture management, mould risk management, all
this type of building.
Looking at your ventilatorcavities, all these types of
things, good moisture management, mold risk management, all this
type of stuff.
But also we talk a lot aboutwell-being now with our team and
we've had a couple really goodsessions with our team to
identify what that well-beinglooks like for our own team.

(04:58):
I think there's a stat like youspend nearly 80 of your life
working, so you don't want to berocking up to work and just
feeling like this is shit.
I just want to turn around andgo home.
You want to make sure it'senjoyable, you know.
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
It's super important and I think you don't realise
the value of having thoseconversations until you do it
Like it's all good to like.
I thought for years that mybusiness was this and my
business was that, but it wasall.
It was all in my head, it wasall me.
I might have been telling otherpeople but yeah, and even now,
as we sit here today, like I'msure if I went back to my team

(05:32):
and said what's our values like,they would probably maybe
struggle with it, even thoughwe've just recently updated and
we've actually got them.
Our values are across the topand the bottom of our site signs
.
Yeah, um, yeah, I think it'ssomething that you have to keep
like at your team meetings andyour site toolbox meetings and
those sorts of things thatyou've got to keep reiterating.
You've got to talk about it inyour marketing like.

Speaker 1 (05:54):
So we've just recently rebranded our website,
so we've got them all on therenow as well, and so that's
another way of because thatattracts also the clients that
you want to work with as well,and I think then the team can
actually call things out as well, like if you're thinking about
professional and you're startingto do something, you feel like
a trade or something getsdelivered incorrectly, instead

(06:17):
of turning a blind eye to it,you can actually call it out and
say no, we need to sort thatissue out.
It sort of creates that smoothpath.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
I think um I think it's a like I talk about.
It's all part of that where themagic happens.
Like it's where you'reseparating yourself from all the
other builders in your area.
If someone's asking you whatyou do and you're saying a
builder and it's not just abuilder, like whether you're a
tile or a painter or a plumber,whatever like if someone's
asking you what you do, you'relike oh, I'm a painter or a
plumber or whatever.
If someone's asking you whatyou do, you're like oh, I'm a
painter.
What separation is therebetween you and the next?

(06:49):
So if someone asks you what youdo and you rattle that off
straight away, there'sseparation.
Your business is different toany other builder they've been
looking at.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
Because one thing that we looked at was when
you're and in our area there's alot of other custom builders
and stuff like that and we'reall doing great work.
So to say that we're buildingquality homes or something like
that doesn't really make youstand out.
But if we can get in at thatpersonal level, for me,
something I've always struggledwith and it's something now that
I'm learning to deal with andactually put to the side was you

(07:20):
know, if ever I'd make amistake or do something wrong on
site, it was through no wantingto do it on purpose.
It's just occurred through,whether it was something's gone
down or whatever, but it wasn'ton purpose.
And so I would always kickmyself thinking oh, they're
going to think I'm the worstbuilder going around because
I've made a mistake.

(07:41):
But what I've started to learnis that mistakes happen all the
time.
But it's actually now, andthat's where the genuine thing
comes in.
For me, it's like look, no,you're actually a genuine person
.
You're not trying to do thewrong thing by people.
You'll put your hand up and ownthe mistake.
If something comes, you know,and that we've got to rectify
something.
But it's not you know.
Kick yourself because you werethe worst builder going because

(08:03):
of one little thing, and that'sthe other thing.
You look at all the positivestuff that comes to you as well,
but we're always focusing onthat, the worst little thing you
know.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Mindset's huge.
Eh, it is absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
I know it's really set a good foundation.
Like we've been in business now10 years, this is our 10th year
, so you know from where we sortof started.
You know probably the last fiveodd years more doing
renovations and new homes andthat sort of thing, we really
wanted to set a good base forthe next 10.
It's been an awesome exerciseto go through.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
So what do you think the difference is that you've
been with Live Life Built fornearly three years or a bit over
three years.
What's the biggest differencein that three years to the
previous seven years is mostlypersonal, do you think?

Speaker 1 (08:45):
oh, absolutely.
I think we fill out that 6pwheel.
I've always valuedrelationships.
I've always valued wanting tolearn and you know, education
being one of our values.
We're just going to keeplearning for our life.
So for those types of things tocome into live, life, build and
actually now focusing on thatpersonal stuff really sets a

(09:06):
really good base for working onall the other parts of your
business.
And for me I know it'sinteresting on our facebook
group there that we've got.
It's interesting when you seenew builders come in and they
don't feel like they can holdthemselves with other builders,
whereas now I was no different.
I thought for the top endbuilders up here and I was just
this little guy doing a fewdecks and verandas and that sort

(09:29):
of stuff.
But I always wanted to buildcustom architectural homes, but
at that point I hadn't yet.
You set yourself that goal andall of a sudden you don't know
what you don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
You just keep learning, asking questions from
people and all of a sudden youcan start having these
conversations with people andyou see yourself as that
professional now yeah, I'mreally keen just to keep digging
in on this because, like we cansee, like you've obviously had
huge success with knowing yourdata now tracking data, knowing
your numbers and charging whatyou need to charge and all that
sort of stuff.
But you broke a lot of oldstories that you were telling

(10:02):
yourself from what growing upand the farming days and things
so yeah, and that was a bigturning point for you absolutely
.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, like, and that's probably really been the
last 12 months.
I reckon I've really gone leapsand bounds ahead in that sort
of area.
I had the most awesomeupbringing.
I mean growing up on a farm.
I just loved it going out, youknow, shooting rabbits and you
know all this sort of stuffcamping sways, campfires, all
that sort of stuff.
So I loved that upbringing.
Mum and Dad worked their buttsoff as well, but we were in a

(10:33):
very marginal area.
Down in SA there's thisimaginary line called line and
we're on the wrong side of it.
So basically that line is there.
This guy from like a surveyor200 years ago he came and drew
this line said, oh, you're nogood to farm on that side of it,
you know so, and that was allto do with rainfall and things
like that too.
So but straight away it waslike, okay, we worked hard and

(10:56):
mum and dad worked their buttsoff to give us four kids what
we've got.
But coming into now what I do,I sort of felt like mum and dad
did it tough, so I've got to doit tough as well.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
I can't have, and it's not materialistic either,
but money actually allows you todo things which you wouldn't
normally do, and that's like Ithink that's really important
because everyone, like I thinkmoney is a very evil thing when
it's looked at the wrong way,like, and I think like for a
long time I chased the money butthe money, and now when I tell

(11:28):
people you shouldn't be chasingthe money, it's not about the
money.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Yeah, I really think that's the case.
It's a thing to trade with.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Basically, that's what money is there for, but
it's also appreciating it,understanding the value of it.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
For our business.
I wouldn't have been able togrow a team to five, six, seven,
eight people if I was doingwhat I was doing six years ago
working your ass off, gettinghome at night doing all the
quotes, sending out invoices andchecking all that sort of stuff
and you just felt like we werespinning wheels, you know, and
not getting anywhere.
That's when we started to reachout and ask for that help.

(12:00):
It has now gone to not justabout the numbers numbers but
actually to see what it needs totake to run that business
really well, to give our clientsand our staff that experience,
to make sure that we're going tolook after them well and that
we're not going to disappear.
And that's why, when we havediscussions and we get along
really well with clients and youstart to be really open about

(12:21):
the numbers that we charge andthings like that, all of a
sudden they can see why it islike it is and really, in the
big scheme of things, we'rereally no different to everyone
else when you look at thenumbers.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
at the end of the day , what were some of the stories
you were telling yourself?
About money, I think I don'tknow.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
I just felt like that we were always just going to
work our butt off and try and gofrom week to week and not have
some money in the bank to fallon, to maybe go on a holiday but
was it like were you tellingyourself you didn't deserve
extra money or you weren't worthit?

Speaker 2 (12:51):
like weren't worth it ?
Like what?

Speaker 1 (12:53):
yeah, I reckon yeah, a lot of worthiness came in
around it and I think, insteadof just being called that
builder, it's actually sayingluke, you are, you are allowed
to have this, you know, and youand you know I come from an
upbringing where I've got astrong faith and it's sort of
for me it was like you know,luke, you are good enough, you

(13:13):
know you can do this, you canhave that.
I mean he talks about having anabundant life, like why
wouldn't he give you thosethings, why wouldn't he allow
you to have those experiences?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
But, like you just touched on before, like it's
money.
Like I get a few people tell methat I'm a wanker because I
want to earn millions of dollars.
I want to earn millions ofdollars a year because if I have
millions of dollars a year, Ican like, I have this.
I have this.
One of my goals is I want tohelp disabled families Anyone
that's got disabled kids orthey're disabled themselves.
I want to be able to go fuck it, you need a bathroom renovation

(13:48):
on me.
I'm going to pay for that.
Yeah, like I want to be able toif a family member's got issues
or problems or need it, needsomewhere to live, or in
retirement, whatever the case.
Yeah, look, I don't want to bethat person that someone around
me is struggling and I can'thelp them yeah, exactly, exactly
.
But if you actually just startto help them now, Just start
helping Just in a little way, Ifyou think you've got to get to

(14:08):
a certain dollar value to beable to give money away, you're
never going to give it away.
Give away a dollar, give away ahundred bucks, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
And that to me it's something again.
You know, the last 12 months wedid this dance for charity
thing too, you know, and soLooks a performer gets on stage.
Yeah, under sufferance, that one, no, but even that too, like
that, was going well and trulyout of my comfort zone.
But I knew it was going to behelping people.
So you start to do things thatraising money and that sort of

(14:38):
stuff and just recently justdone another little thing to
help homelessness as well.
And it's interesting I wastalking about earlier in the
sense of the amount of stuff wepull down off of a demolition
type of job and we have all thistimber or all this iron, which
is people were just living inthat, yeah, and now we've just
pulled it down and people go andthrow it in a hole.

(15:00):
Well, when I've been thinkingabout this homelessness thing,
I'm like, well, well, surely youknow we can build some sort of
something out of recycledmaterials, where you put these
little buildings or something Idon't know.
But straightaway it startsmaking your mind think to how
you can help these people andget a roof over there.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
That's a really good idea.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
You know it's.
Ultimately, that's what we'vegot, you know, over our head.
That's what we've got over ourhead.
That's what a house is, andsometimes we get a little bit
hung up on all those littlefinishing details, which is
great for the person whose houseit is.
There's people out there thataren't and that, to me, that's
starting to come back to my trueself, not just taking it all

(15:39):
for myself.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
I want to give it away.
But yeah, that whole moneymindset and, like most people
out there, go ah, fuck, I don'thave an issue with money.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
But deep down I think we all all two to some degree
yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
And I think too, like the story was like with just
this poor little old farmer fromSutherland.
That was sort of something thatwas running through my mind and
so that just straightawaytransferred into my working life
.
That was running through mymind and so that just
straightaway transferred into myworking life, like I say, the
last probably 12 months to startjournaling and writing down.
I have this.
I have that you start thinkingabout the brain science behind
some of that sort of stuff andhow things start to occur.

(16:15):
You know it's happening.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
How often a week do you journal?

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Probably been a little bit slack lately, but I
don't know, maybe once or twice.
At the moment we go throughphases, I think, where you are
just fully into writing thingsdown.
I'm the same.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Always once a week, but sometimes it might be two or
three.
But, even just that once a weekmakes, and I've journaled for
years, but it wasn't until 2020,going to that first Grant
Cadone conference I went to inVegas, where he was like you've
got to write it down, likeyou've already got it.
Your brain needs to think thatyou've already achieved that.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Well, that's what flipped for me on the drive 23
last year when you guys weresaying I went.
After talking about it on thebus, one day I went back to the
hotel room and I was saying Iwant, I want, I want.
And I shared that then the nextday and I think Amelia might
have said you know, you've gotto write it down and say I have.

(17:13):
I've shared that with a fewpeople since and it's a whole
mindset shift, to actually putit in that way.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
Wanting something is like everybody wants things.
If you want things, you couldwant things your entire life
doesn't mean you're going to getit.
All your life's going to change.
But this is that wording,writing it down like you've
already achieved it.
Yeah, I guess it's giving yourbrain the confidence to push
harder for it absolutely yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
And then when you start seeing little results I
would think of the start of thisyear some of the things I wrote
down that I wanted to do.
I just reread a few of them theother night.
I'm like, sheesh, a few ofthose things have actually
happened and how good is it.
But when you do that, it's sogood.
But it wasn't like you set thatgoal and right, I'm going to do
everything in my power toactually going to work my guts

(18:00):
out to go and do it.
Just keep living your lifeputting things out there and
things start to come back.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
It's amazing when you start seeing this, you've
definitely gone next level.
Like, and tell us about yourjourney this year.
Like.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
You've definitely thought your commitment has been
insane yeah, I learned a lotabout discipline and showing up
and just getting out there anddoing the work when you don't
feel like you want to be doingit, and probably part of it was,
you know, this time last year.
Someone knocked on our door atthe office saying, oh, we want
to have you as one of the starsof the Barossa to do this dance

(18:33):
for charity, and so I actuallythought they were just asking us
to sponsor the event or be partof the sponsorship package or
something, and so no, we wantyou to be up there and do one of
the dances.
We had a friend you know losther life through cancer, so this
was all to raise money for, youknow, cancer Council, let's say
, and another local fundraisinggroup down there, but as one of

(18:56):
the stars, we had to raise money.
And then over the Christmasperiod my brother gave me the
new Ned Brockman book, whichthis young lad from Sydney ran
from Perth to Sydney andbasically the book was showing
up, you know, and getcomfortable, being uncomfortable
, and I read that in like two orthree days, just bang like that
over Christmas.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
What's it called?

Speaker 1 (19:16):
It's called Showing Up by Ned Brockman, and so that
was.
You know, 1st of January.
So I wrote these things downWant to run a marathon, want
know 1st of January.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
So I wrote these things down want to run a
marathon, want to do these sortsof stuff, so have you ever has
that been in your mind beforelike to run a marathon?

Speaker 1 (19:32):
Yeah, it probably had .
But again, I go back threeyears ago.
I wasn't going to the gym, Iwasn't doing any exercise or any
of that sort of stuff.
So that came out of learningwhat guys and girls successful
people are doing and I was juststarting to get off the tools a
bit.
I'd just turned 40.
A few of these things startedto happen.

(19:53):
So I said, right, I'm going tostart doing CrossFit.
I cooked myself that onesession.
It took me about 15 days tocome back.
But now that slowly went into,do it once or twice a week.
And then it went to three timesa week and now four or five
times a week I'll be doing somesort of exercise, and only
through that.
There was an event, probably 18months ago Do a 10K at the

(20:15):
Brossard Marathon event.
All right, I'll go run 10Ks.
Oh, how awesome is this.
And then that levels up to oh,I want to run a half marathon.
Do that three or four monthslater at the City to Bay, and
then from there it was like,well, the next thing I want to
do is run a marathon.
That's the next point.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
You set a target, but didn't you have days, yeah,
days.
You wanted to consistently showup.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
So and that was off the back of raising money for
the Dance for Charity.
So the idea was I just Googlecounsellor, say, 30 people
diagnosed with cancer every dayin South Australia.
So I thought I'm going to dostart off February 1 to the
dance on May 11, I'm going torun every day until the event
and run 30 minutes.
So it wasn't distance oranything like that, but it was

(20:57):
like okay, if I'm feelingrubbish, I just got to get up
and run somehow for the next 30minutes and it was off the back
of that.
I had visions in my mind.
How cool would it be when youget to number 70 of 101 or
number 80 of 101?
That's where the discipline andthe habits came to doing hard
things consistently and you knowthat can then feed into

(21:20):
business as well it was unrealwatching your post in our
facebook group like every week,smashing out how many days did
you end up doing consistently?
so that was 101, yeah, yeahevery day rain half shine yeah,
and luckily, I reckon itprobably rained two days in that
whole period.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
But again you set something but I remember that
you post some videos that you'dhad a shit day at work or a big
week and you're buggered.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
But when he talks about running from Perth to
Sydney and the pain that he hadto go through to do that.
I'm like jeepers if he's beenable to go through that pain and
feel that pain but consistentlykeep doing it.
Yes, the goal he had in hismind.
He still got the distance, buthe was trying to do it in a
certain number of days andthings like that.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
You've done more than you did without setting it, you
know so I think that's animportant point, because so many
people at some point in theirlife try and set some goals and
they don't achieve them and thenthey get the shits and don't
try again.
But yeah, like any goal you set, like if you get halfway there,
that's half, like it's furtherthan you were before and I think
it's getting harder and harder.

(22:24):
Like I think too many peopleand I know this was my case for
maybe right up until my midthirties like the goals weren't
personal, they werematerialistic and so my goals
weren't really my goals.
They were goals from influence,from industry, from other

(22:46):
builders, from things otherpeople had, and I quite often,
like I achieved a lot of goalsbut they weren't fulfilling.
Yeah, a bit empty, yeah, a bitempty.
Yeah, it's just empty.
Like you think you wantwhatever it might be.
It could be a new tool, a newtrailer, it might be a new
vehicle, it might be a boat, itcould be like, I think, when

(23:09):
your goals are materialisticthings, like it feels like it's
a big thing to achieve it.
But like, even if it's aFerrari Ferrari like what you
buy, the Ferrari you sit in it.
Yeah, like it might be awesomeand fun for the first week and
then you're like, fuck, it'sjust a car, yeah, that's right.
But when your goals are likeyou're running for 101 days,

(23:30):
yeah, like it feels like such anachievement that you've pushed
yourself to do something thatyou didn't think you could do,
yeah.
And then that discipline flowsthrough everything your business
, your personal life, yourrelationships yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
It is.
I was just blown away by theend of it because I was pretty
spent.
I finished the run thatSaturday morning and then that
Saturday night we had toactually get on stage to do the
dance.
Never in my wildest dreamswould I ever thought to go up
and dance in front of 350 people.
Not on YouTube, mate.
Can we check it out?
It'd have to be out theresomewhere.
Get Shadleford in the link.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, we'll drop a link.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
But it's just like.
But I had, like Lisa was upthere and had our two
apprentices as well and theywere just absolute legends to do
that, and that whole eventraised $52,000 or $54,000.
And myself, just by doing myrunning sort of thing I don't
know it was $4,000 or somethingwent into the kitty.
So that's the joy and that'sthe achievement that I see is

(24:28):
that you've actually been ableto help other people through
just doing something you know.
But then you know, like youfinish that and you it becomes
addictive.
It really does, and so at themoment I've actually stopped
running quite a bit and I'd lost, um, a lot of strength and
stuff through that period.

(24:48):
But it's always that thing youdon't know what you don't know
going into it.
It's like I'm just running, youknow, but now I've learned,
okay, there's a lot of nutritionthat comes into making sure
you're keeping that strength andkeeping the weight on and
staying strong while you'redoing all this running, and it's
just.
But if you don't try and pushyourself to go that level, you
would never, ever know what youneed to do now to do the next

(25:11):
thing yeah, and it's the same asbusiness, isn't it absolutely?

Speaker 2 (25:14):
yeah you have to push to the next level to know what
it's like to be there.
Business is always going to bedifficult, but it's your
consistency, your commitment,your mindset, your integrity,
all that sort of stuff that'swhat ultimately makes you a good
business person.

Speaker 1 (25:27):
Absolutely.
And, like I say, I go backprobably three, four, five years
ago and there's jobs we'redoing now which I thought back
then that I would never beenable to build, you know.
But you take little chunks andsay, actually, this will be a
little bit of a challenge youwant and honesty comes into it
too then, with clients, if youfind part of that project which
you've never done before as well, just be honest and say, look,

(25:48):
that's something we haven'tdealt with before, but got a
great network of builders thatwe can call on and ask bits and
pieces.
You know that sort of stuff, soit's oh, I.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
I think it's true.
I think that's really importantand that's something I've
always done.
We we won award back in 2012 um, for I can't remember exact
name award.
We missed out on um difficultside award at the the master
builders, and then we actuallygot the job, got accepted in at
the time.
They don't do them anymore.
They used to be called theabode awards.
Yeah, there used to be a showon tv called abode, it was.

(26:20):
Anyway.
We got accepted in it.
We made it into the finals, wewent down to melbourne and we
won the award for theconstruction on the most
difficult site, and so we builtthis house in to wong and
brisbane here.
At the time I was 28 or,basically, the block was 43
degrees, jeez, and I can'tremember the width of the house.

(26:42):
But you walked in the frontdoor off the driveway and then
it had a suspended pool out theback.
By the time you got to the backedge of the pool, it was 16
metres off the ground, yeahright.
And it was suspended on thesebig 900 round off form concrete
columns, like each column.
Each column had a.
So we had to dig down until wehit rock.

(27:03):
So we had these four meter byfour meter holes in the ground,
like one of them was five and ahalf meters deep, yeah.
And then we tied these bigcages, the the steel cages were,
I think it was 16 mil bar, twolayers big cages like 16 mil
high, and I'd never doneanything like that.
The owner was actually thedeveloper.

(27:23):
He was in this little 18 lot,sort of prestige, little
development.
And I just told him.
I said, mate, like he drovepast another job we were doing
on a steep site and showed methese plans and I was like mate,
I've never done any of that butfuck, I'll have a crack at it.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
And he loved my enthusiasm and so how'd you work
through to nut all that outthen, like when you think of a
first job that I've never doneit just asking questions of
people yeah, I ask questions alot all the time, even now, but
I stared at those plans forhours and hours and hours and I
just jot down things that I wasconcerned about.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
I wasn't quite sure I spoke to my form worker a lot
off.
Like concrete isn't really thatdifficult, like it's all in the
preparation, yeah.
So if you get your foundationsright, you get your form work
right.
And one thing I've always donewith any type of form you just
brace the shit out of it yeah,if you think it's good enough do
it more.
So I just spent hours onlineresearching and then one of the

(28:22):
columns, I think, was 11 metresfrom the top of the pad footing
to the underside of the deck andI didn't know that we had to
pour that in four stages.
And so I just learnt by lookingonline.
Talking to the form worker theconcreter we were using at the
time had a little bit ofexperience.
Yeah, I learned a shitload, butit's one of my most proud jobs

(28:45):
because everyone the owner toldme that he had, like I think it
was a dozen, more than a dozen,bills with it.
No one wanted to do it.
It was all too hard, yeah, andhe was concerned because I was
keen to do a fixed pricecontract, because I'd been burnt
the years before doing a costplus, yeah, and so ever since
that we got burnt, we've never,ever gone near a cost plus ever

(29:07):
again.
And, mate, I just kept that andover and I priced that job
perfectly.
It was at the time one of ourmost profitable jobs when we
finished.
But in saying that I still backthen I didn't know my overheads
.
So all the pricing for thematerials, labor like even the
earthworks, like in that steepjob yeah, block work, core fill

(29:30):
like pool was bang on, but Ifucked up my overheads, yeah and
like.
So I covered all my costs, allmy costs, but I only made a
salary out of it because Ididn't understand my running
costs.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah, but that's again, though.
When you do one of those jobsfor the first time, you don't
know what you don't know, andyou go into it and it is talking
to the trades that are workingwith you, or engineers, or
whoever it is.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
I don't think there's enough collaboration from a lot
of people, or whoever it is.
I don't think there's enoughcollaboration from a lot of
people.
That owner was so, I guess,grateful that I wasn't trying to
bullshit him.
I told him there was a lot ofthings on the job, that was
going to be my first time, andso I would send him an email and
say, hey, mate, I've done someresearch on this.
If we do this, it'll come uplike this.
If we do this, it might be abit better.

(30:16):
So he really appreciated allthat collaboration.
But the other thing that I'vealways been very good at, like
it had, we'd always done a lotof structural steel.
I'll show you a photo of thisjob um, shake and maybe put a
link into it as well.
But uh, it was like a u-shapewith this big pool in the middle
and the two u-shapes sat on topof concrete columns.
I had like, so the guy uh, hewas really high up with quantus,

(30:36):
he worked like he was in andout of the airport all the time
and the brisbane airport's gotthese concrete columns with
these big they call them bird'snest on top, yeah, and he wanted
to influence the hair 175 tube,like big legs coming out.
And so, mate, I sat beside, Iwent to the steel drafts.
When I sat beside and we workedthrough it together, he

(30:58):
explained connections to me.
I went and sat with my steelfabricator and, like, we nutted
out roughly what size crane weneeded and how long you thought
it'd take, yeah, and then Iactually shit my pants on that
job because we got the cranethere.
Everything was all perfect like, and so for this, this steel
frame, to work, we had to finishour form ply within 40

(31:18):
millimeters and then it had acage on top with 22 bolts round
that we set in the concrete.
And if this huge big platedidn't fit perfectly on those
bolts it would have thrown thewhole job out of square, because
off this bracket was what allthese arms come off of, even

(31:39):
just with shit like that.
The steel guy explained that tome.
So, yeah, I allowed extrasurveying.
So we we allowed a surveyor tocome to site once we got our
form work to the site before wepoured the concrete to mark
square on the circle form work,yeah, so that we could set our
bolts up perfectly, anyway.
Anyway, we got all thestructural steel in and it was
like bouncing all over the shopand we're walking around and I'm

(32:02):
like this is not right.
And I got the engineer at thesite and he's like no, no, this
design relies on all the floorjoists being in the floor, being
laid and screwed off becauseit's all got to lock together.
I was like shit.
Like man, I hope you're right,because like this thing was like
flopping around and yeah, itwas right, we got our floor

(32:23):
structure in.
You've got to have a crack.
Yeah, you can't be silly aboutit.

Speaker 1 (32:28):
That could have gone pear-shaped, yeah, quickly yeah,
absolutely it is a bit of that,and that's where when I ego has
to come into it a bit toosometimes.
I don't think you can justconquer the world.
You just got to keep buildingtowards that and that's probably
been a bit of our growth.
I've never felt like I want togrow to a team of X in a certain
period of time.

(32:48):
It's sort of like, as long aswe're growing, I'm happy, you
know, and it doesn't have to bein any time.
You know I need to have 20blokes in two years or anything
like that, or X amount turnoveror profit in a certain amount of
time and that sort of thing.
Because I think one part I'mprobably well aware of myself is
that making sure that I don'tovercook myself as well, because

(33:12):
then I'm useless to everyone aswell, because when you do get
focused on something, you canreally get nearly too focused on
it and burn out and all thatsort to everyone as well,
because when you do get focusedon something, you can really get
nearly too focused on it andburn out and all that sort of
stuff as well.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
How do you like?
How have you structured thebusiness to allow you the time
to do the running and theexercise?

Speaker 1 (33:27):
I think a lot of personal scheduling, I think is
big.
But apart from the runningstuff, my morning routine is
bang on most days, like I'd whatis it?
Pretty much going to the gym.
I'm my alarms going off at 4 42in the morning.
I'll probably hit the snoozefor nine minutes and then I'll
get up again.

(33:47):
But yeah, gym at 5 30, work outfor an hour and then back home
start getting ready.
I'll sort of help the kids and,although they're mostly
self-sufficient, a lot now but,um, help lisa, get all that sort
of stuff ready around home.
And then generally if I'm notgoing to, I'll be into the
office by 8 30 or be on siteanywhere between 8 to 8 30.

(34:09):
The boys start at 7 30 in themorning.
Shit, I don't need that alone.
That's the guy there I don'tknow, you guys have a lot more
daylight here because you don'thave this daylight saving stupid
thing.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Jesus, I'm inside at six oh quarter past six If it's
getting hotter, I think they'llprobably start earlier.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
That's my part of the day and I just yes, I'm doing
my job, but I love working outand doing CrossFit stuff,
playing cricket and footy formost of my life to now doing
something completely different.
It's just fresh, it's new.
You're doing things which younever thought you could do as
well.
So, again, that's just part ofmy time.
When you get to work, you justget stuck into the day having a

(34:45):
morning routine is so important.
Like just sets you up for thewhole day I didn't go yesterday
morning but I ended up going atnight and that cooks me in the
afternoon.
If I got to go to the gym inthe afternoon and we were
talking about with a few peopleand they said, oh, no way can I
be a morning person to do that,but I find it's the best time of
the day to do it.
So I started doing a 6 30 whenI first started.

(35:06):
I'm like I can't get up at 4 40in the morning, like no way all
of a sudden.
Then, nah, I'm getting to worktoo late, I need to go at the
early session and now it's justhabit.
Last two and a half years doingthat like habits are so good to
have structure in your lifewould you think?

Speaker 2 (35:23):
would you have thought three years ago, when
you first joined elevate, thatyou'd be sitting here talking
about this sort of stuff?

Speaker 1 (35:28):
no way, and you got to have an open mind to stuff
like I think you were talkingabout cold showers and ice baths
and that sort of stuff and it'sjust like I can't stand under a
cold shower, no way.
You're mad.
But now you're doing it.
You know having ice baths,doing some breath work,
journaling, all this sort ofstuff.
You're seeing benefits of itand so you start sharing that

(35:49):
with other people as well.
I just recently done 10 icebaths every morning.
One of the guys doing aretaining wall goes oh, have you
thought out yet?
This morning I said, mate, youneed to come do it with me.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
It's powerful stuff.
That's why we're called LiveLife Build Absolutely.
You can't be successful ifyou're not right yourself.
You've got to focus on numberone.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Yeah, and the relationships and it's like at
home with your kids, you know,with your partner.
For me, I need to have my owntime to actually make sure that
I'm showing up for them as well.
If I'm putting some of thateffort in for myself, I know I'm
going to be showing up andavailable for my staff as well
and contractors.
So and all of a sudden, youjust start to talk about stuff.

(36:31):
It just comes naturally to you.
You're not trying to put thismask on and be something you're
not.
And I think a lot of this yearhas taught me that I love
exercise and I love running, andit might not be everyone's cup
of tea, but those talks.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
You've got to find your thing, don't you?
You do.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
Yeah, and you need to just be honest with yourself.
For a long time probably, oneof my battles was always trying
to be someone I wasn't.
You're looking sideways.
It's so interesting how, whenyou actually believe that stuff,
I've got a number of thosenotes on my screen and you're

(37:10):
looking at them all the time.
So when you go and run amarathon, don't worry about
everyone else running around.
You just run your own raceseriously.
And I thought I was running andI cooked myself, but I didn't
know what I didn't know.
So I'll learn a lot for nexttime.
That's for sure.
Yeah, but you need to be true toyourself.
If you can't do that, you'regoing to just things are just

(37:32):
going to grind a little bit more, I reckon, than what they could
.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
I want to come back a little bit.
So we've got a bit of athunderstorm going over at the
moment, so you're hearing a bitof rumbling.
It's not luke.
All right.
I think this summer we'rehaving now is fuck.
Everyone talks about all thisglobal warming and all this
stuff, but this is what it waslike when I was apprentice, mate
, like in print.
When I was apprentice, so manydays we had to finish early,
like people forget because theyonly listen what they're fucking

(37:57):
told on the news.
But oh, there were summerswhere at least once a week we
were going home early becauseone, two, two o'clock storms
would roll in piss down hail andit couldn't work and like we
haven't had that for years, andlike this year we're finally
getting the storms on a regularbasis.
Yeah, yeah I like it.

Speaker 1 (38:16):
You always think back to when you're at school and
whether it's pissing down andit's raining and all of a sudden
Mum has to come and pick you upat the bus stop because you
can't walk home because it'sraining or whatever.
But you start to see whatthings are like now.
We've had a bloody dry winterdown our way.
Growing up on our farm, we hadprobably 11-inch rainfall there,
so you couldn't grow a hell ofa lot.

(38:37):
Very much marginal grazingcountry really.
But now where we're living inthe Barossa, you talking
probably 25 inch rainfall, 24inch rainfall, and I reckon for
the year we've probably had Idon't know the numbers may be
anywhere between 10 and 14inches for the year if we're
lucky.
So we're a long way off ofwhere things are normal.

(38:59):
But you know it'll, I don'tknow.
It's all cycles isn't it?

Speaker 2 (39:03):
yeah, I want to come back to identity because I think
it's something that I don'tknow.
It's all cycles, isn't it?
Yeah, I want to come back toidentity because I think it's
something that we don't talkabout.
I know, recently, one of ourmentors in elevate did a session
the other day, which I saw youcommented on as well, around
your identity.
Yeah, I definitely am soconvinced that 99 of people on
this planet do not know theiridentity.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
And I reckon part of that call that really sort of
resonated with me is that youridentity is fluid, it can
actually change a little bit aswell, and so for me, my identity
isn't tied up in what I do.
So I'm not a builder, I'm Luke.
I like to do these things.
These are the things thatresonate with me.

(39:46):
I'm a relational sort of aperson.
I like to talk with people andget to know people that sort of
a way.
But it's not.
And that's the thing where Ithink sometimes, when I think
about business and things likethat, that's where I've always
sort of felt like I'll doeverything I can to make sure
we're running it profitably,sustainably, but at the end of
the day, if things go well or ifthings don't go well, that's

(40:09):
not who I am, you know, andthat's truly sort of how I see
that identity thing.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
And do you reckon it's given you freedom?

Speaker 1 (40:17):
Yeah, absolutely.
You don't have that pressure tostrive and you don't have that
Be something you're not Correct.
Yeah, because you're notcorrect.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
yeah, because you're just living out who you truly
are do you reckon most people,do you reckon a lot of people,
are living someone else'sidentity?

Speaker 1 (40:33):
yeah, and I probably sort of think of and I think,
growing up not necessarilywhether you're trying to be like
your parents or anyone likethat sort of thing, but I think
more so as you come into aprofessional sort of a life.
I reckon I always put certainbuilders probably on pedestals
when you get feedback frompeople you're working with and

(40:54):
they say I'd rather work for youthan such and such, because you
actually can work with me onthings, not just be told it's
got to be done like this or makesure it's done in that
timeframe, and just hound it,and so that's the sort of feel
like, well, you need to make adollar as well.
So if you put that pressure onpeople, they're not going to be
at the best of their abilityeither.
So, yeah, I truly think thatpeople are trying to live

(41:18):
someone else's life, but also Iwant to instill that in my kids
as well.
Like, just do your own thing.
You know they might not quiteget it yet, because they might
know what did I get when I wasunderstand, when I was 15 as
well.
You know, yeah, probably a lotof it comes with age and a bit
of wisdom yeah, definitely,we're the same.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
I want my kids to know that they can do whatever
they want to do.
It doesn't really matter somuch what, camille and I think,
like they're their own person,they can come up with their own
opinion.

Speaker 1 (41:46):
You can say no to things.
Yeah, well, like that doesn'talign with me, so I'm gonna let
that go.
You know, when it doesn't work,like just recently, we just
bought a car and literallylooked at it on a sunday night.
We had it on friday.
It just flowed that easy andwe'd been looking for six months
or so but all of a sudden foundthe right, the one.

(42:07):
It was where I get my carserviced.
It just sort of everything justfell into place and it was not
hard at all, you know.
And that's how life should beSome people just battle
everything don't they?
Yeah, I'm going to get that,because I said I was going to
get it.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, and then they'll stretch themselves too
far.
They won't be able to getproper finance.
They get high interest finance.
They dig themselves a hole justbecause they're not comfortable
being yeah it's a bit of a flow, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (42:34):
You need to try and work out how you work and what
works, and that's where I thinksometimes I'm feeling more
comfortable now with our guys onsite, that I can trust them.
I've come up here now for acouple days.
I trust them on the job.
While I'm not there, a couplephone calls here and there and
things like that to work through, but I can trust them that it's
not going to be.

(42:55):
I'll get back and it's a showand because I've worked out that
my value is in all thepre-construction side of things
and actually talking withclients, because I know that
they are valued in theirposition.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
You know what they are doing so important to know
where you're where you add themost value, isn't it?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (43:11):
and I'd like say that had never been the case.
It's really again nearly thelast, I think, off the back of
sharing these values with theteam, we sat down with our two
leading hands and we saidbecause this time last year we
were in a real slow spot, so wehad this big up and down of work
and so they can see they werequiet as well, they nearly
didn't have a job.

(43:32):
So it's sort of like well, theycan see that now, so they're
taking on that responsibility aswell, because they can see
Saxony is going to work becauseof that.
So it doesn't feel hard either.
It's refreshing because you'reall on the same page.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
Everyone in the business like.
For a business to be successful, every single person in the
business has to be doing the jobthat they're the best at doing,
or that's adding the most value.
Yeah, like if you're runningaround like a headless chalk
trying to manage every task, doeverything yourself, getting
stuck in the weeds.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
That's not good for anyone.
And then you've got to findthat's the other thing too.
I probably you know againcoming from a boiler maker doing
steel frame, and I've said toyou before that I always didn't
think myself I can't talk withother builders because I'm not a
carpenter and know anythingabout timber work and stuff like
that.
But I've put that aside now andit's like well, I just need

(44:30):
skilled carpenters to put theframe up and do that part of it.
I know what it needs to looklike and how I want it done but
if I don't have the actualhands-on skill set to do it,
that doesn't matter, you know?
And then you become comfortablewithin your own skin because
some of these guys can't talk toa client the way I can talk to
a client don't have to be doingeverything, just want to make
sure everything's getting done.
Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
It's super important and not getting stuck in the
weeds.
So where to from here, mate?

Speaker 1 (44:49):
Well, like you say, I think the world's my oyster in
a way.
Another marathon.
Yeah, we'll do another one.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
I've sort of pegged something middle of next year so
I'd like to do the Brosserlocal one again.
But when I ran that late AugustI probably got to the last six
or seven Ks where I just cookedmyself and haven't felt pain
like it.
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
But you kept going.

Speaker 1 (45:11):
And that's the thing too.
Now it's that growth sort ofmindset again.
You're always trying to workout right.
How can I do it better nexttime?
I want to run the full 42 nexttime, not get to 35, cook
yourself and then walk for a bit.
Run for a and then walk for abit, run for a bit, walk for a
bit, run for a bit.
So I'm starting to look atthings.
Get back in the gym, get a lotstronger.
It sort of affected my back alittle bit on the back end of it

(45:32):
so, but if I can give myself alead-in of nine months, ten
months like it is now to doanother one, I know you need to
push yourself to a point whereyou're scared yeah to do
something 100and I yeah, I was scared with
doing that and that's the thingwith business as well like
there's some things where I'dlike to get to, to make some

(45:53):
better profits and get to somehigh-level projects and things
like that.
But that scares me because I'venever done it before.
But I know and this has beenthe benefit of having such a
good community of people aroundyou they are so encouraging for
you and wanting to see yousucceed and when you get people
around you like that, well,there's nothing that can stop

(46:15):
you because at the end of theday, it's going to feed on to a
lot of other people.
I feel like this year I've donea shitload, but I felt like
it's been a pretty consistentsort of a year.
It hasn't had the bigfluctuations, like I've sort of
felt, and so, out of thoselearnings, just keep doing that
if it's working.

Speaker 2 (46:35):
Just keep falling back to those habits of it I
like how you said you've got tofind something that pushes you
and scares you.
I definitely think, because oneof my big turning points was
going to ever a Base Camp nearlyseven years ago.
I'd just never done anythinglike it, but it wasn't so much
that it was the training up toit, it was a camaraderie, it was
a group of guys, Whatever.
That was like the 20 yearssince I'd left school I hadn't

(46:57):
done anything like that.
You've got to find those thingsthat push you to your limits
and the growth, because you'llget so tied up running the
business you think I can't havetime off.
That's the first thing Ithought when we went to Everest,
because we were away for threeweeks, I was like how's
everything going to run?
What's going to happen?

Speaker 1 (47:17):
But the growth that comes on the other side of that
is enormous.
And do you reckon, then, aswell, like doing that stuff
yourself?
You know someone?
I think back to CrossFit.
I reckon I got caught at a weakmoment to go through friends
and that's okay, but all of asudden you do it and all of a
sudden shit, because I had astory that I'm not a gym person.
That's just what I told myself.
But now it's become the bestpart of my day getting up and

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doing that.
So but we're doing the 100 daysrunning or doing a marathon, or
I'd love to walk Kokoda one dayas well.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Yeah, mate, we'll add you to the list because that's
going to happen next year.
Yeah, when they open, it's shut, didn't you?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Well I think, yeah, I'm not sure.
Actually I'd sort of followsomeone who does a bit of stuff
over there, but like my papa heserved at Bougainville over
there in World War II.
So I just love that bit of theconnection between something
more than myself, you know,absolutely.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
Going to Everest really highlighted for me like I
need a target.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
Like if I just say, oh, I'm going to get up every
morning, go for a walk, whatever, like it might happen for a few
weeks or a couple of months orwhatever, but I need something
to aim for.
Yeah, and that like it, it wentreally well, like I did that,
and then 12 months later we allwe went and did the milford
track and then we were supposedto go to kota and covid hit,
yeah, and I've just been up anddown and up and down, like I get

(48:39):
stuck in the exercise and Ifall off, like so we've only
just a myself.
We've got a couple other guys,we'll add you to the list, but I
I got on there to start likelooking about and getting
serious and it's like, oh,kakada cracks clothes, yeah,
yeah, I just think that would beamazing, like again read the
book and it's incredible for me,that type of stuff is well

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number one.
It's getting me out of mycomfort zone.
It's something that you justcan't turn up and it's not a
walk in the park, so you have tocommit to a little bit of
training, but, yeah, it's thatcamaraderie, it's that pulling a
group of people together,similar interests, the growth
that I had on that Everest trip,because you don't have anything
else to do, like you're walking, yeah, and every day like seven

(49:27):
, eight, ten hours, and there'ssome deep that gets spoken about
because people open up, you getvulnerable.

Speaker 1 (49:34):
There's a lot of tears, yeah, and then on top of
that, you're pushing yourself toget to a goal, yeah you know
you touched on you open up and Ithink us as blokes, we need to
be doing something to be able totalk and open up.
We can't just let's go down fora coffee, sit at the coffee
shop.
It doesn't quite work like that.
You need to be doing somethingand I think if you've got a

(49:55):
common goal, all of a sudden youachieve it and you know and I
think that's the thing with thecrossfit gym it's a, it's a
group class environment.
You're not going there yourself, so I was just talking to the
coach about it.
So this whole thought of gettingout of your comfort zone or
pushing yourself intouncomfortable situations, like
you do a workout for 15 minutesand everyone's a bit like at the

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start thinking, oh shit, thisone's going to be a bit spicy,
this one's going to be crap, butby the end of it we are
absolutely cooked and spent.
But the way we talk to eachother and oh, how crap was that?
And you just start to smile andwhatever.
But I think she was sayingthere's nearly like a 20% to 30%
increase.
If you do something in a grouptowards a common goal, that you

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will achieve more.
And I feel like that's the wholething, with the whole Elevate
community as well, is becausewe're a whole group.
You've got people at alldifferent levels and stages and
areas and all that sort of stuff.
We all just share and encourageeach other to keep going.
And that's exactly what the gymis Like.
Everyone's patting yourself onyour back and you watch back

(51:00):
squat 200 kilo and there's medoing sort of about 90 and
you're like how the hell are youdoing that?
But then everyone has theirstrengths and weaknesses as well
.
You know what you're good atand you know what you can work
on and put the weaknesses asideand just say, oh no, I'm no good
, but keep working at them.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
But you're this whole podcast.
I'm just sitting here.
Look at the smile on your face.
Like you're, I'm super proud ofwhere you are because you've
had some enormous growth in thelast couple of years.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
It feels like since you committed to that 101 days
walking, your growth was sort ofclimbing steadily and now it's
just yeah I think when you putyourself in that situation, you
get the belief within yourselfand like I really say thank you
that you're proud that of whereI've come from.
But I used to probably wantthat a lot more, you know,

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because I had to be told I wasdoing a good job.
But now it's like I'll acceptit and say thank you.
But for me it's actually myselfbeing proud of myself.
It's not coming from outwardsources and that's how you can
stay grounded.
I think a bit too.
But yeah, when you do freaking,do it.
You're like how freaking goodis that that I've actually just
achieved that.

(52:08):
And that's why that nedbrockman fella like he's
inspired so many people acrossthe country to get uncomfortable
and put yourselves into notnice situations and then if some
person hears that, they go.
Actually, maybe I might trythat, because that's where the
growth starts to happen.
You got to go beyond thatcomfort zone.

(52:28):
That's why you always keepsetting the bar.
It's addictive like.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
I think it's addictive because it why
wouldn't it be addictive when itit gets to a point where it
feels like everything's justfalling into place.
But it's not falling into place.
It's the journaling, it's themindset, it's the identity.
Over time, you're changing whatyou're putting out to the
universe and I just think it'sincredible.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
The story you tell yourself.
Growing up in a church sort ofbackground, I just felt like god
was put in a box in a church ona sunday.
Yeah, well, to me, when I wasrunning 100 days, he was there
with me 100 of the time.
I always felt a bituncomfortable.
Share that stuff with people aswell, because of they might not
be, or you know how does thatmake you feel as well.

(53:13):
Once you're true to yourselfand you're comfortable with
yourself, you're not standing ona corner with a picket telling
everyone how good it is or whatit is.
That's me, that's myself.
Everyone's got other thing, sayother religions or what they're
involved in.
So just be you.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
I love it mate.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
It's great to be able to get to that point, because
it takes a long time though.

Speaker 2 (53:33):
Yeah, there's no one thing, but is there?
No, everyone wants that secretsource.
Yeah, and it's not.
Yeah, it's within you it yeahit's within you.
It's a combination of lots ofdifferent things, but we're
probably going to have to wrapit up because this storm's
bloody getting quite noisy.
But, mate, before we do, what'slevel up mean to you.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
I think we've probably just spoken about it
today Like it's pushing yourselfto a point where you've got to
take another level and you don'tknow what's on the other side
unless you set a goal, set atarget, push yourself to get to
that point.
Once you've gone through andyou've achieved that, all of a
sudden there's another levelabove that again.
So levels don't stop.
They don't stop.

(54:13):
You keep leveling up.
I love listening to what you'redoing through this podcast and
being involved live, life build.
I'm really happy and proud thatI've been involved with it and
continue to be, because I feellike I've got something to give
back to everyone else who'scoming into the program as well
now.

Speaker 2 (54:28):
So it's awesome really appreciate you jumping on
a plane, coming up here andlooking forward to heading out.
Now we're going to go and havesome dinner and stuff.
Look as always.
Please like, share, subscribeand look.
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we look forward to seeing you onthe next one.
Cheers, guys, are you ready to?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
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