August 7, 2025 • 41 mins
Mineral deficiencies are silently driving chronic fatigue, brain fog, thyroid dysfunction, and even personality shifts. In this eye-opening episode, chemical engineer and nutrition expert
Barton Scott reveals how nanominerals and hair tissue mineral analysis (HTMA) are revolutionizing the way we understand our health. Learn why blood tests fail to detect deep deficiencies, how to reverse decades of depletion, and why testing your hair might be the best investment in your wellness journey.
Barton shares his deeply personal motivation behind founding Upgraded Formulas and how these innovations are transforming lives—one mineral at a time.
Listen in to learn more :
02:30 – What are essential minerals, and why are we all deficient
06:00 – Impact of mineral deficiency on hormones and energy09:00 – Why hair tissue mineral analysis is more accurate
13:00 – How to reverse mineral deficiencies effectively
17:30 – The danger of heavy metals and how HTMA reveals toxicity
22:00 – Barton’s story: From athlete to founder
26:00 – The tragic loss that sparked his mission
30:00 – Upgraded magnesium + clinical sleep trial results
33:00 – Why melatonin supplements may do more harm than good
36:00 – School start times, blue light, and sleep cycles
38:00 – Upcoming product innovations and Barton's new book
LINKS
https://www.upgradedformulas.com/
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What I learned that was really shocking, really shocking, is
that blood does not show you deficiencies intelligently as a
as its purpose. Blood the phrase lifeblood that we've used
the notes are richness, doesn't it. And so if you
(00:22):
know nothing about health, nothing about nutrition, you're just a good,
you know, critical thinking person, then you will realize that
you have to test from a place that the body
is is not holding back.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wharton Scott, Welcome to the Lindsay Elmore Show.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hey, it's great to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Lindsay, I'm so excited to talk to you today. We
are going to be talking about how we can unlock
our health through nano minerals. And this is a fun
story because back in the day when I was first
starting my career, I worked in nanocrystallography with a NASA,
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a NASA engineer, and that was what we were working on.
And so anytime I hear nano this or nano that,
it always kind of takes my heart back to my
college days and reminds me of how important it is
that we have these tiny little versions of minerals of
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chemicals that get into our bodies in different ways because
of how small that they are, so we're going to
talk about minerals today. We're going to talk about the
future of supplementation. It's something that I am very excited
about because I think that so many people are lacking
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minerals and it is making them sick and tired.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So and was to test for them, I would add
so many people just it's an epidemic.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
People don't know how to test for deficiency. I realized
when I was on my.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Own path toward getting healthy again and well again and
helping my mother and all of that. Yeah, it was
just like, yeah, like trying to save a parent from
an early death really is kind of where we started
in this. And so I'll just I'll mention that we could.
We can go into it later if people want to know.
But yeah, the depth of not understanding our deficiencies keeps
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us sick.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, let's start there, why are so many people deficient
in essential minerals and really take even a step back
to even more basics of like tell us what the
essential minerals are and why do we just not have z.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We don't have the essential minerals because I mean, for
a lot of reasons. There's there's two main reasons I
would say, one is, of course foods apply in there
form well three really food choices we make the soil.
It comes from our inability to test for it. Well,
(03:13):
I guess that's now they're yeah, there's there's so many.
And then the the other main one is our inability
to digest thanks to low stomach acid thanks to in
part previous kind of a negative cycle of not having
enough nutrients and then the stomach acid being low as
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a result, people craving foods they wouldn't normally crave because
they're not absorbing nutrients that would stabilize their blood sugar
for example, or and therefore they eat some things and
now they're indulging in the croissant when they would have
never ate the grassant. And the impulse we think is like, oh,
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you would had the same impulse, but you wouldn't know
if you had had absorbed previously the elements and nutrients
that you needed to absorb from the previous food you ate.
If that, if people can follow that, that sort of
circuit us line through cause and effect, and so it
kind of goes even tighter from there.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, it's interesting, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So if mineral deficiencies are basically, you know, ubiquitous at
this point where everyone has some degree of mineral deficiency,
in what ways does it impact our health and well being,
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our mental health, our emotional states? How do mineral deficiencies
impact us?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So, if you're listening to this, you may be suffering
from thyroid issues or taking thyroid medication. You know, we've
been able to reverse that for people by having nutrients
they absorb, you know, because the thyroid, just like the adrenals,
like so many glands in the body, it just wants
to produce the hormones that it was designed to produce.
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And when it doesn't have enough let's say iodine, selenium, zinc,
et cetera, meesium, the copper, even then it's not going.
It doesn't have a It's like the similar odds of
a snowball in hell of actually getting the right output right.
(05:38):
So it think of it sort of like a paper mill.
Even if you never seed a paper mill super ten
thousand foot view, if there's no trees coming into the
paper mill, will there be paper coming out the other side?
And this is why you know, and so if you
can picture that, you see, well, all right, there's no
supply in so there's no supply out and this is
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exactly what happens in the body.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, all right, So if people are dealing with their
thyroid being out of balance and them not knowing whether
or not that their minerals are in balance or out
of balance, testing is one of those things that, unfortunately,
I think I think Western medicine gets wrong in a
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lot of ways because we get it into a is
it enough, is it okay? But we don't talk about
how do we optimize and how do we really ensure
that people are getting the best of the best. So,
(06:50):
if people are testing for minerals and looking for how
they're impacting their energy, their hormone balance, tabolism, they're sleep patterns,
how do you recommend that people test and how do
you recommend that people get testing results that are optimal
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and not just enough? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, absolutely, It's true that if you're listening to this,
you most likely have had the experience like I've had,
which is you've gone to a doctor and you've been
told that even though you have some symptoms and you're
obviously there to improve something, that oh, you know, you're
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totally fine, and it's like, well, if that were the case,
then I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't have spent a
couple hours of my life trying to get here and
do that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And so.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Really, just succinctly, I'll say that what I learned that
was really shocking, really shocking is that blood. And yet
sort of obvious as you hear me say this, you
will understand this, I think crystal clear. So blood does
not show you deficiencies intelligently as a as its purpose.
(08:20):
Blood the phrase life blood that we've used, the notes
are richness, doesn't it. And so if you know nothing
about health, nothing about nutrition, you're just a good, you know,
critical thinking person, then you will realize that you have
to test from a place that the body is is
(08:42):
not holding back, essentially like the deficiency. So the body
pulls from the way it works as a body pulls
from tissue and puts these nutrients in blood. And then
we check the blood and we go, hey, Lendsy, you're
you're totally fine, and you're like, well, I have brain fog,
hair's falling out, overweight, for example. And if someone was
(09:03):
having these issues common issues thyroid as a result, you
know or you know, as a as a leading indicator
of this is not working well. Their adrenals are not
working well, and so therefore and waking up in the
middle of the night and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. All of that can be reversed. That's the
good news. But you have to check tissue, and tissue
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is hair, and that's what I realized.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So I became one of the.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Experts, I mean in the last twelve years in understanding
deep nuances and hair. Just like any test, there's you
can look at it and you know, with no background
and very little history in understanding and learning about a test,
you can look at it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And there are people.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That will try to do that and they'll go like, oh, well,
I'm a you know, an MD or a naturopathic doctor,
and I'm trained in fifty other tests, and unfortunately, if
they're not trained deeply in this one. So we put
out a test for a course rather for practitioners if
they want to go deeper and understand this, so they
can actually help people in a different way and so
(10:03):
and just add a lens to it. So, yeah, there
is some value. I'm not saying that there's no value
another tests, but the value here is that we're built.
I realized, I say you chemical and chemical engineering, and
then I became a nutritionist after one that's also trained
in this intersection of behavior through NLP and all of
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this together, I realized not only that we are the
periodic table, but most of us don't test for it
in a way one and then two not accurately and easily,
so using your air, little snips of hair here and there,
very easy, you send it in, you get a understanding
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with the consultation, super affordable.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You do that a couple times a.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Year, and you're in the one percent suddenly, and you
spent less than a grand And I can tell you
there's just there's no better path I realize to getting people,
everyone to a certain level that everyone needs this.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I mean, you know, probably like you I'm friends with.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I mean an incredible number of people that are the
most famous people in health and a lot of like
a lot of you know, great well known people outside
of that, and you'd be surprised by you know, every
one of these no matter what they're doing. You know,
all sorts of expensive protocols. If you're not doing this,
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you end up missing things because a periodic table is
like gravity. You can't outrun it.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
We are it.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And yet, like we talked about the opening question that
you had, what are we we?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Why do we need this? Why are we so deficient
in minerals? What are some of the key?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And some of the key I realized to go back
to that or things like potassium. Everyone's low en I
mean literally ninety ninety percent of people, uh, magnesium eighty
plus percent on a daily basis. And so it's like, well,
if I took it Tuesday and I don't have to
take it today, your your body's current constantly burning these
things for energy, especially magnesium, copper, things like that. So
(12:17):
then it became, all right, how do I how do
I get these to absorb well in the body, And
that that became that's really why the reason why we're
talking and why I have something so special in the
world is we can actually absorb so much or so
effectively that we can reverse these deficiencies. And what I realized,
lindsay that just cracks everything open for anyone that has,
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you know, an open mind, is that when you can
reverse the deficiency, you can prevent a lot of stuff
and there is no disease without deficiency. I'll say that again,
there is no disease without deficiencies. And when you look
at yourself or someone you know, for example, that used
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to not have an issue and now they have an issue,
what changed was the question I would ask, and it's deficiencies.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Deficiencies lead to this.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Ease, a lack of ease, right, and so hopefully at
that point's super clear. And so from there I went
into nanotechnology and also discovered that in college and worked
a lot with it, and then I just realized, Wow,
this is I've got to figure out a way to apply.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
This to nutritions, future nutrition.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And so I believe we're the first ones in our
category to use the word nano and to use this
unique technology.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So I'm curious because when I think about hair analysis
versus blood analysis, you know, the hair analysis is looking
at things over a much longer period of time. And
so how have you taught patients how to understand the
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difference of like what are they looking at and understanding
about themselves when they're doing a hair mineral analysis versus
a blood analysis that really could give them more about
what do I do today versus what do I look
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back in in my past and go like I either
really want to pick that back up or I really
need to let that go.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Right. So with I mean, it really is.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's everything we're talking about just now, and I think
it does bear repeating some parts of that, which is, yeah,
believe it or not. This is probably as a brand
new concept to absorb because if you're like ninety nine
percent of people, you've only ever done blood testing or
maybe still testing, maybe salia, but maybe you're in. All
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of these things are not tissue, right, and so they're
they're excretion or there.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You on your best behavior? Is what blood is? You
on your best behavior?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And so and what I mean is again, how does
the blood happen. Well, let's say you're very stressed. The
body pulls nutrients, or you had a couple margaritas and
your pH is off. Now to keep the pH from
being off, the body pulls from your organs, even your
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bone marrow unfortunately, and that's how we end up with
all disease of bone is the body's buffering pH and
something you you know, you would have studied a lot
in pharmacology and so as well, and so when that happens,
that is how the body works and With that fundamental understanding,
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you start to see the value in what we're talking
about now, which is, wow, this is we have to
be testing tissue. We have no business testing blood and
unless we're looking at downstream things.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Like handans, but hair nuns.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
If you we all want to have ideal hormones at
every age we influence that, that's like seven seven steps
down the waterfall, so to speak. The top of the
waterfall is elements. That's what I realized. When you get
that right, then the magic happens. When you don't get
that right, disease will be guaranteed to follow. So don't
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have deficiencies, reverse them as soon as you can, and
that will also help your body push out heavy metals.
So the hair to esk is especially when you have
a good analysis someone that's like really trained and understand
I think team for that, you start to understand your
heavy metals too.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And boy, oh.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Boy, do we have some toxicity out there. I mean
there's there's aluminium and jet fuel, so if you travel
a lot, there's that. There's all sorts of things in
our water. Around the world, there's things in their soils
and so yeah, I mean you might be taking CBD
to help fall asleep. CBD comes from I'm not saying
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they never take it, but things like that that are
coming from root plants that are really good at sucking
things up. They used to use that himp plant to
suck up landfills for example. And what do you think
those heavy metals do? They end up in the plant
and then we use that we isolate that CBD. So yeah,
heavy metals is something we're looking at to answer your question.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Like, what else are we getting? What else are we seeing?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
We're seeing diroid function and drenal metabolism, metabolism as well.
We're seeing that through hair, which makes sense. It's tissue
and so hair is not you know, you're if you're
like I think common sort of basic questions are like, well,
what if my hair is twelve inches long? It's like, well,
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we're obviously it wouldn't be very intelligent to test the
tip of that. We test, you know, the half inch
or inch or so closest to the scalp, because that's
one to two months of data, depending on the person
and how long we're talking. And so when we have
that fresh data, then that is an average and that
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is not like six months of data. Like people think
that's totally dependent on how long the hair is, and
so you know a half inch of hair is like four.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Weeks for most people.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And so when you take that though, you have a
thousand literally a thousand times more data per nutrient sampled.
So it isn't just this little blip. It is a
huge average. So to arrive at the number seventy three
for eat ninety eight or eleven or twelve, there's a
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thousand numbers that are getting averaged. You know, there's a
thousand things that are getting tested, and then we're we're
getting it. That's how it works to be able to
get each one of those nutrients. And then importantly we're
looking at and this goes to your question too, we're
looking at ratios of these things. So I don't only
care about what your sodium level are, your magnesium level,
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or your heavy metal level of mercury, cademium, arsenic.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Or lit.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I care about the ratio of that to other elements.
So what's your ratio of mercury to zinc, iron to copper,
copper to zinc, zinc to aluminum. And when you understand this,
now you're starting to see I'm sure the holistic intertwined
nature of this.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well. I think some people are beginning to see the holistic,
intertwined nature of it. I think a lot of people
are just trying to get their head around it and
just trying to understand that minerals are important, and they're
not just important in your blood. They're important in your hair,
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your skin, and in other places that you can test
for them where you may be able to get that
ninety day snapshot, really looking at what are we looking
at over the past few months versus what are we
looking at right now, which may or may not be
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a good example of our bodies overall health and well being. Now,
I would love to know more about your personal journey
that led you to upgrade and formulas.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, sure, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I was an athlete then fairly burned out from wrestling
and football and track, and I mean wrestling myself is exhausting,
and so a lot of us have done these extreme
sports at different times.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
This one, you know, because you're cutting weight.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's almost like self induced type with iyroidism, which I've
had and reversed by the way, using all the methods
that we're talking about here, which is the right testing
absorbing nutrients without digestion, without requiring digestion. What that means
is the particle size of these minerals is so so different.
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I don't think I mentioned it, so just side note there.
People can see that on the site as well. It's
just it's it's like the difference between taking a jet
versus a model T car to the destination. It's like
trying to absorb, taking something your body is forced to
absorb and digest and break down versus something that it
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assimilates without needing to die. All right, So from there,
I go to college pretty brain fogs, and I don't
really understand why, because I'm pretty fit and one of
the more fit people among my friends always throughout my life,
and yet I have a lot of brain fog. And
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it's not because I'm not disciplined or I just I'm
struggling to focus, and so I get on Adderall that
makes it worse, of course, because why you're causing more deficiencies,
You're speeding up the effort required of the entire indecerent system.
And it's just I don't recommend it for anyone. There's
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so many better solutions there literally for everyone, and I
read about that in my book that's coming out in
a couple of months called that How Nutrition Becomes Personality.
So how nutrition becomes personality is kind of what we're
talking about here too. The early points I realized, if
we don't don't fix these things, they become our destiny first,
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they become our personality.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
How people know us, like, oh, or you kind of
you know aloof?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Or are you focused and driven and you get things
done and you enjoy lights and you're at the moment,
you're present?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Are you scattered in eighty D?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And so that's how we know ourselves, that's how we
talk to ourselves, that's how we show up. That becomes
you can see, very obviously our personality and ultimately destiny.
And so I realized this energy equation pretty early, you know,
because of wrestling. You'd eat a banana and you'd feel
a certain way. You'd eat a protein shape, you'd feel
a certain way. You'd need a different type of protein, shake,
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you feel a different way. And I was literally learning
this at eight or so in that early nineties, and
and so that carried with me and I had this intuitive,
you know, feedback loop.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And so what I realized.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
What brought this to you so young at age eight.
What this understanding?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, wrestling the forced Yeah, because you make weight and
you have to you actually have to watch what you eat, right,
otherwise you won't make your weight class. Just like you
see mma, you see them weigh in same thing. In fact,
most of those people are wrestlers, and so yeah, so
you look at that and you go, okay, all right,
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nutrition obviously matters.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That has a big effect. And then from there's many layers.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I think the thing that really cracked me open was
I knew a ton about nutrition by the time I
was twenty, more than most nutritionists would would know. I
just had that intensity. And then I had chemical engineering,
which was like the Hubble telescope looking at nutrition, understanding
hardest physics, hardest math, all this a lot of the
hardest chemistry. And then you look at that and you
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go like, all right, some of the stuff that people
are talking about makes no sense. And they're just parroting things, fortunately,
and not that they mean to. They just they think
that's right, and they don't understand the larger picture and
why that couldn't possibly true be true. Elon calls this
thinking from first principles which is a really easy and
clean way to say it. And so I had all
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of this, and yet I still wasn't able to get
my mother well. And so she eventually had an aneurysm a
few years later, never woke up. And I thought for
a while that I was working mainly for myself, like, oh, well,
you know, I want to have a brain that works.
I want to be able to achieve a lot in life.
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I want to I really want to make an impact.
I want to help people. I want to reduce suffering.
That's why I feel like I'm here and I see
so many people suffering. It could be just cramps. They're debilitating,
like cramps, foot cramps, pms. Even it could be headaches, migraines.
If you ever have a migraine, you would pray, I
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mean you would do It'd cross the world for a solution,
and we solve that for people, and we also prevent
a lot of this too, and so and granted there's
different types of headaches and migraines, and that's a double
click thing for later possibly, but in a different show,
this just drove me. It drove me to I mean,
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when you lose a parent, especially one that you're very
close to We're close as a family luckily, and you know,
I was just thinking, you have so much wisdom is
lost when the old die down, even even if you're
okay in that peace.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
With it, it shouldn't happen, and it's not a good
path forward for the development of our species.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So using now technology is clearly the way, and I
mean it's what has to be done really to reverse
the deep deficiencies that we have and therefore give us
the chance to have the life we can.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, okay, So one of the things that really I
struggle with is clinical trials because they can truly reflect
what it means to be a human living on earth
and how we engage with minerals or medications. But then
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other times they're designed so poorly we don't get information
that we really need from them. So I'd love to
hear what you've learned along the way about clinical trials,
what makes them good, what makes them potentially problematic, and
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what do you think that we have learned about mineral supperit,
especially as it relates to sleep from clinical trials.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, super the thing that just straight away the most
valuable thing for everyone listening is team of that I
realized that sleep was really our body's best chance at immortality.
And not that that that we're all trying to live forever,
but we want to live well while we're here and sleep.
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If you sleep well, you always know you have a
great day astor you're more resilient, you're smarter, you have
like a sixty five percent lower chance of snacking and
breaking your diet or your lifestyle that you're following. And
so yeah, what's called a double blind, placebo controlled third
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party clinical trial is the gold standard, and those are
going to be run with a certain specification and then
you know it's it's legitimate if they can get published
in something legitimate. So I actually did this for to
prove the absorption technology that we have for all of
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our mineral products. We have about twenty five products. They're
all the minerals that out there in some blends and
super high dose well, super efficacious, super effective, and they're
really good at reversing our deficiency. So things like fairly
high desiodine because we're all so incredibly deficient. If you
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took if you took the one hundred percent DV for
the rest of your life, you'd be deficient.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Every day for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Because a lot of our daily values are so insignificantly
small that they're really, I believe, just meant to keep
us outside of potentially disease. It's not it's built by
a system not in their favor, I'll say that. And
anyone that really knows this area notice that that's for
(29:42):
sure true. Unfortunately, and so we need we need a
lot of it. And so I took our magnesium product
upgrade at Magnesium ran it through a sleep clinical trial
that was again third party, which means completely hands off
by the company that's paying for it. Now obviously through
the funding has to come from the company because that's
where the interest is, but they have no say in it.
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And so the study is designed in a certain way
that will, you know, show or not show a result,
and so and then placebo controlled I think everyone knows
what that means. And then yeah, yeah, so anyway, so
that's what we did, and we had literally the most effective,
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the most exciting results ever seen in a sleep clinical
trial of before and afters so a lot better deep sleep,
specifically a lot better rim sleep than quite literally any
other product ever ever tested. And so now we're just
we call that product eight hour Sleep. That's our dose,
our clinical dose, that's good for men and women. Kids
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can take a smaller dose of it. We literally all
as humans, all need us throughout our lives, literally nightly.
And so it's something I've you know, like we talked
about here in Europe right now, traveling, you've been out here,
lived out here. I don't go anywhere without quite a
few of these supplements, but that one certainly, because it's
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so critical for sleep, and that is so critical for
everything else, including skinhealth, how your skin looks, how your
metabolism works, everything.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
So one of the things that I'm so fascinated about
when it comes to sleep is the difference between how children, adolescents, teenagers,
and adults sleep. And I have a girlfriend who one
of her children is going into that thirteen fourteen year
(31:49):
old age range, and she is, you know, over here complaining,
like She's like, lindsay, he stays up all night and
sleeps all day. And I'm like, you know, that's kind
of how melatonin is built in in teenagers. And so
(32:10):
I'd love to know how can we use minerals for
energy levels fighting fatigue at different ages so that we
can ensure that you know, parents aren't getting frustrated by
children staying up all night. And really, i'd also love
(32:34):
to know your opinion. And this is a little bit
of a more. I wouldn't exactly call it political, but
it is. It is thinking about the world and how
we set up our systems to support health. What do
you think about kids going to school at six point
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thirty and seven o'clock in the morning when they're seventeen
years old? You know, how how how does that impact
our health when when we have these changes across a
lifetime in how we are supposed to sleep.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Sure, so you mentioned a couple of things there, and
they're all interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
So the number one thing if you have kids or
even as adults, this is true for all of us.
I know we're not on video right now, but I
know I've got a phone over here in my hand,
and if this screen or this this you know, if
your screen is in our faces or we're around artificial lighting,
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So anything besides a candle or red lights, if we
don't have those set up in our house, it's going
to reduce the amount of melatonin by like half in
some cases more. And so that hormone totally. I will
just say it. It is. It operates naturally. And so
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there's a great sleep suity that showed that everyone that
thinks they have sleep issues after about a week they
took everyone camping, big group of people. By nine nine
thirty or so, everyone's sleep Why because they spent And
this is this is the other part of really answering
that question about the seven thirty. It depends on when
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they're going to sleep. When we're all going to sleep,
and so our natural rhythm is to stop eating by
the time the sun is down. If we don't do that,
we're naturally going to either go to sleep later or
and not sleep as well because the body is digesting,
or both. And then therefore what does that lead? So
people are like, what time do you wake up? You know,
(34:38):
you have a great habit, you know your skin looks great,
like you know, lucky. I get a lot of great
compliments with this focus in health, and it's really like,
I feel like people are asking the wrong question. Is
what I say, Like, it's not about what time I
wake up, It's about what time I go to bed
and how how deeply I sleep. It's not how long
I sleep, it's how well, I sleep while I'm in bed,
(35:02):
and so we have this cheeky tagline for eight hour sleep,
which is be great in bed, and so that is
that is one hundred percent a big part of it. So, now,
how do you make melotonin? Damn sure, don't want to
take melotonin. In my opinion, it's a hormone. You don't
want to take hormones. That's an unintelligent view of doing things.
(35:26):
It's not understanding the system. If you it's it's at
some point it's acknowledging. Well, we don't really know what's
going on. We're going to give you this hormone, and
we don't know why you're not making enough. We know
you probably used to make enough, but you don't now
and it's like, oh, that's so not good enough. It
turns out if you have enough magnesium you absorb in
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your body, you make any of melotonin, and then you
sleep deeply, and then the next morning your serotonin is
high too, because leftover melotonin conversus serotonin. Leftover serotonin converse
the melotonin. So in the morning, let's say you take
a little bit of magnesium, same product either upgrade magnesium.
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She I think our favorite supplement period is our upgraded
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And so you know whether it's cramps or blue light
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or you know from phones being our face. We just
we're developing bad habits because we life has never been
easier and.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
It's we can get by with it.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
And that's why people are doing it because as humans,
it's easy to just get by. And the ones of
us that like go on to live memorable, interesting lives
are the ones that go I want to design my life,
and that's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I love that so much. I love being able to
use health and wellness as a way to create a
life that we want to live. We're running out of time,
but I would love to know as we are closing out,
(37:19):
what are you working on that you really want to
share with us, and you know what has led you
to go down the pathway of writing a new book,
which is not an easy endepth.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It really is four and a half year. Thanks for
the question. Is four and a half your journey and
it's really a culmination of like all my chemical engineering
really like fifteen years or so.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Of of just like being.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like living sort of a life as a sage, learning, thinking, developing,
stress testing things in and then coming out and doing
things like this where I share what I've learned.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And so.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I feel grateful to be able to do that and
it feels good to have that impact. And the book
is coming soon, so you can really find all of that.
And I'm working on you.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Know, about six new products or.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
In the works that are all pretty exciting, I think,
really effective. And I always my approaches.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I try to.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Model a lot of great inventors of the past, and
I don't really find interests in doing things that other
people can do or have done, and so the products
that we release really are special and different and in
a way and not just like cool, they are utilitary
and they're purposeful, and so yeah, that's really I think
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We're using supplements that have extremely high bioavailability through nano
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I am so excited that we were able to talk today.
Barton Scott, thank you so much for coming in today
and being a guest on the Lindsay Elmore Show, and.
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For all the listeners to super appreciate your time. Please
share this. If this was eliminating for you in any way,
I hope it was. Put a lot of heart and
soul into this for you, a lot of time scheduling.
Lindsay and I are busy with a lot of different things,
as I'm sure you are, with you and your family.
And yeah, if you don't, if you're listening to this
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action taker benefit sooner. So yeah, thank you, thank you
so much, and thank you Lindsay for having me on.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Thank you all right, everybody. We will see you guys
next week. Thanks for listening in to the Lindsay Omore Show.
What I learned that was really shocking, really shocking, is
that blood does not show you deficiencies intelligently as a
as its purpose. Blood the phrase lifeblood that we've used
the notes are richness, doesn't it. And so if you
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know nothing about health, nothing about nutrition, you're just a good,
you know, critical thinking person, then you will realize that
you have to test from a place that the body
is is not holding back.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Wharton Scott, Welcome to the Lindsay Elmore Show.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hey, it's great to be here.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Lindsay, I'm so excited to talk to you today. We
are going to be talking about how we can unlock
our health through nano minerals. And this is a fun
story because back in the day when I was first
starting my career, I worked in nanocrystallography with a NASA,
(01:11):
a NASA engineer, and that was what we were working on.
And so anytime I hear nano this or nano that,
it always kind of takes my heart back to my
college days and reminds me of how important it is
that we have these tiny little versions of minerals of
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chemicals that get into our bodies in different ways because
of how small that they are, so we're going to
talk about minerals today. We're going to talk about the
future of supplementation. It's something that I am very excited
about because I think that so many people are lacking
(01:52):
minerals and it is making them sick and tired.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So and was to test for them, I would add
so many people just it's an epidemic.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
People don't know how to test for deficiency. I realized
when I was on my.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Own path toward getting healthy again and well again and
helping my mother and all of that. Yeah, it was
just like, yeah, like trying to save a parent from
an early death really is kind of where we started
in this. And so I'll just I'll mention that we could.
We can go into it later if people want to know.
But yeah, the depth of not understanding our deficiencies keeps
(02:31):
us sick.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Well, let's start there, why are so many people deficient
in essential minerals and really take even a step back
to even more basics of like tell us what the
essential minerals are and why do we just not have z.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
We don't have the essential minerals because I mean, for
a lot of reasons. There's there's two main reasons I
would say, one is, of course foods apply in there
form well three really food choices we make the soil.
It comes from our inability to test for it. Well,
(03:13):
I guess that's now they're yeah, there's there's so many.
And then the the other main one is our inability
to digest thanks to low stomach acid thanks to in
part previous kind of a negative cycle of not having
enough nutrients and then the stomach acid being low as
(03:35):
a result, people craving foods they wouldn't normally crave because
they're not absorbing nutrients that would stabilize their blood sugar
for example, or and therefore they eat some things and
now they're indulging in the croissant when they would have
never ate the grassant. And the impulse we think is like, oh,
(03:55):
you would had the same impulse, but you wouldn't know
if you had had absorbed previously the elements and nutrients
that you needed to absorb from the previous food you ate.
If that, if people can follow that, that sort of
circuit us line through cause and effect, and so it
kind of goes even tighter from there.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Yeah, it's interesting, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So if mineral deficiencies are basically, you know, ubiquitous at
this point where everyone has some degree of mineral deficiency,
in what ways does it impact our health and well being,
(04:45):
our mental health, our emotional states? How do mineral deficiencies
impact us?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
So, if you're listening to this, you may be suffering
from thyroid issues or taking thyroid medication. You know, we've
been able to reverse that for people by having nutrients
they absorb, you know, because the thyroid, just like the adrenals,
like so many glands in the body, it just wants
to produce the hormones that it was designed to produce.
(05:15):
And when it doesn't have enough let's say iodine, selenium, zinc,
et cetera, meesium, the copper, even then it's not going.
It doesn't have a It's like the similar odds of
a snowball in hell of actually getting the right output right.
(05:38):
So it think of it sort of like a paper mill.
Even if you never seed a paper mill super ten
thousand foot view, if there's no trees coming into the
paper mill, will there be paper coming out the other side?
And this is why you know, and so if you
can picture that, you see, well, all right, there's no
supply in so there's no supply out and this is
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exactly what happens in the body.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, all right, So if people are dealing with their
thyroid being out of balance and them not knowing whether
or not that their minerals are in balance or out
of balance, testing is one of those things that, unfortunately,
I think I think Western medicine gets wrong in a
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lot of ways because we get it into a is
it enough, is it okay? But we don't talk about
how do we optimize and how do we really ensure
that people are getting the best of the best. So,
(06:50):
if people are testing for minerals and looking for how
they're impacting their energy, their hormone balance, tabolism, they're sleep patterns,
how do you recommend that people test and how do
you recommend that people get testing results that are optimal
(07:15):
and not just enough? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Yeah, absolutely, It's true that if you're listening to this,
you most likely have had the experience like I've had,
which is you've gone to a doctor and you've been
told that even though you have some symptoms and you're
obviously there to improve something, that oh, you know, you're
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totally fine, and it's like, well, if that were the case,
then I wouldn't be here. I wouldn't have spent a
couple hours of my life trying to get here and
do that.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And so.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Really, just succinctly, I'll say that what I learned that
was really shocking, really shocking is that blood. And yet
sort of obvious as you hear me say this, you
will understand this, I think crystal clear. So blood does
not show you deficiencies intelligently as a as its purpose.
(08:20):
Blood the phrase life blood that we've used, the notes
are richness, doesn't it. And so if you know nothing
about health, nothing about nutrition, you're just a good, you know,
critical thinking person, then you will realize that you have
to test from a place that the body is is
(08:42):
not holding back, essentially like the deficiency. So the body
pulls from the way it works as a body pulls
from tissue and puts these nutrients in blood. And then
we check the blood and we go, hey, Lendsy, you're
you're totally fine, and you're like, well, I have brain fog,
hair's falling out, overweight, for example. And if someone was
(09:03):
having these issues common issues thyroid as a result, you
know or you know, as a as a leading indicator
of this is not working well. Their adrenals are not
working well, and so therefore and waking up in the
middle of the night and et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,
et cetera. All of that can be reversed. That's the
good news. But you have to check tissue, and tissue
(09:23):
is hair, and that's what I realized.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
So I became one of the.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Experts, I mean in the last twelve years in understanding
deep nuances and hair. Just like any test, there's you
can look at it and you know, with no background
and very little history in understanding and learning about a test,
you can look at it.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
And there are people.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That will try to do that and they'll go like, oh, well,
I'm a you know, an MD or a naturopathic doctor,
and I'm trained in fifty other tests, and unfortunately, if
they're not trained deeply in this one. So we put
out a test for a course rather for practitioners if
they want to go deeper and understand this, so they
can actually help people in a different way and so
(10:03):
and just add a lens to it. So, yeah, there
is some value. I'm not saying that there's no value
another tests, but the value here is that we're built.
I realized, I say you chemical and chemical engineering, and
then I became a nutritionist after one that's also trained
in this intersection of behavior through NLP and all of
(10:25):
this together, I realized not only that we are the
periodic table, but most of us don't test for it
in a way one and then two not accurately and easily,
so using your air, little snips of hair here and there,
very easy, you send it in, you get a understanding
(10:47):
with the consultation, super affordable.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You do that a couple times a.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Year, and you're in the one percent suddenly, and you
spent less than a grand And I can tell you
there's just there's no better path I realize to getting people,
everyone to a certain level that everyone needs this.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I mean, you know, probably like you I'm friends with.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
I mean an incredible number of people that are the
most famous people in health and a lot of like
a lot of you know, great well known people outside
of that, and you'd be surprised by you know, every
one of these no matter what they're doing. You know,
all sorts of expensive protocols. If you're not doing this,
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you end up missing things because a periodic table is
like gravity. You can't outrun it.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
We are it.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
And yet, like we talked about the opening question that
you had, what are we we?
Speaker 3 (11:47):
Why do we need this? Why are we so deficient
in minerals? What are some of the key?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
And some of the key I realized to go back
to that or things like potassium. Everyone's low en I
mean literally ninety ninety percent of people, uh, magnesium eighty
plus percent on a daily basis. And so it's like, well,
if I took it Tuesday and I don't have to
take it today, your your body's current constantly burning these
things for energy, especially magnesium, copper, things like that. So
(12:17):
then it became, all right, how do I how do
I get these to absorb well in the body, And
that that became that's really why the reason why we're
talking and why I have something so special in the
world is we can actually absorb so much or so
effectively that we can reverse these deficiencies. And what I realized,
lindsay that just cracks everything open for anyone that has,
(12:40):
you know, an open mind, is that when you can
reverse the deficiency, you can prevent a lot of stuff
and there is no disease without deficiency. I'll say that again,
there is no disease without deficiencies. And when you look
at yourself or someone you know, for example, that used
(13:02):
to not have an issue and now they have an issue,
what changed was the question I would ask, and it's deficiencies.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Deficiencies lead to this.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Ease, a lack of ease, right, and so hopefully at
that point's super clear. And so from there I went
into nanotechnology and also discovered that in college and worked
a lot with it, and then I just realized, Wow,
this is I've got to figure out a way to apply.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
This to nutritions, future nutrition.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And so I believe we're the first ones in our
category to use the word nano and to use this
unique technology.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So I'm curious because when I think about hair analysis
versus blood analysis, you know, the hair analysis is looking
at things over a much longer period of time. And
so how have you taught patients how to understand the
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difference of like what are they looking at and understanding
about themselves when they're doing a hair mineral analysis versus
a blood analysis that really could give them more about
what do I do today versus what do I look
(14:34):
back in in my past and go like I either
really want to pick that back up or I really
need to let that go.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Right. So with I mean, it really is.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
It's everything we're talking about just now, and I think
it does bear repeating some parts of that, which is, yeah,
believe it or not. This is probably as a brand
new concept to absorb because if you're like ninety nine
percent of people, you've only ever done blood testing or
maybe still testing, maybe salia, but maybe you're in. All
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of these things are not tissue, right, and so they're
they're excretion or there.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
You on your best behavior? Is what blood is? You
on your best behavior?
Speaker 1 (15:26):
And so and what I mean is again, how does
the blood happen. Well, let's say you're very stressed. The
body pulls nutrients, or you had a couple margaritas and
your pH is off. Now to keep the pH from
being off, the body pulls from your organs, even your
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bone marrow unfortunately, and that's how we end up with
all disease of bone is the body's buffering pH and
something you you know, you would have studied a lot
in pharmacology and so as well, and so when that happens,
that is how the body works and With that fundamental understanding,
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you start to see the value in what we're talking
about now, which is, wow, this is we have to
be testing tissue. We have no business testing blood and
unless we're looking at downstream things.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Like handans, but hair nuns.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
If you we all want to have ideal hormones at
every age we influence that, that's like seven seven steps
down the waterfall, so to speak. The top of the
waterfall is elements. That's what I realized. When you get
that right, then the magic happens. When you don't get
that right, disease will be guaranteed to follow. So don't
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have deficiencies, reverse them as soon as you can, and
that will also help your body push out heavy metals.
So the hair to esk is especially when you have
a good analysis someone that's like really trained and understand
I think team for that, you start to understand your
heavy metals too.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
And boy, oh.
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Boy, do we have some toxicity out there. I mean
there's there's aluminium and jet fuel, so if you travel
a lot, there's that. There's all sorts of things in
our water. Around the world, there's things in their soils
and so yeah, I mean you might be taking CBD
to help fall asleep. CBD comes from I'm not saying
(17:27):
they never take it, but things like that that are
coming from root plants that are really good at sucking
things up. They used to use that himp plant to
suck up landfills for example. And what do you think
those heavy metals do? They end up in the plant
and then we use that we isolate that CBD. So yeah,
heavy metals is something we're looking at to answer your question.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Like, what else are we getting? What else are we seeing?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
We're seeing diroid function and drenal metabolism, metabolism as well.
We're seeing that through hair, which makes sense. It's tissue
and so hair is not you know, you're if you're
like I think common sort of basic questions are like, well,
what if my hair is twelve inches long? It's like, well,
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we're obviously it wouldn't be very intelligent to test the
tip of that. We test, you know, the half inch
or inch or so closest to the scalp, because that's
one to two months of data, depending on the person
and how long we're talking. And so when we have
that fresh data, then that is an average and that
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is not like six months of data. Like people think
that's totally dependent on how long the hair is, and
so you know a half inch of hair is like four.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Weeks for most people.
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And so when you take that though, you have a
thousand literally a thousand times more data per nutrient sampled.
So it isn't just this little blip. It is a
huge average. So to arrive at the number seventy three
for eat ninety eight or eleven or twelve, there's a
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thousand numbers that are getting averaged. You know, there's a
thousand things that are getting tested, and then we're we're
getting it. That's how it works to be able to
get each one of those nutrients. And then importantly we're
looking at and this goes to your question too, we're
looking at ratios of these things. So I don't only
care about what your sodium level are, your magnesium level,
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or your heavy metal level of mercury, cademium, arsenic.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Or lit.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I care about the ratio of that to other elements.
So what's your ratio of mercury to zinc, iron to copper,
copper to zinc, zinc to aluminum. And when you understand this,
now you're starting to see I'm sure the holistic intertwined
nature of this.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Well. I think some people are beginning to see the holistic,
intertwined nature of it. I think a lot of people
are just trying to get their head around it and
just trying to understand that minerals are important, and they're
not just important in your blood. They're important in your hair,
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your skin, and in other places that you can test
for them where you may be able to get that
ninety day snapshot, really looking at what are we looking
at over the past few months versus what are we
looking at right now, which may or may not be
(20:39):
a good example of our bodies overall health and well being. Now,
I would love to know more about your personal journey
that led you to upgrade and formulas.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Yeah, sure, thank you for that.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I was an athlete then fairly burned out from wrestling
and football and track, and I mean wrestling myself is exhausting,
and so a lot of us have done these extreme
sports at different times.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
This one, you know, because you're cutting weight.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's almost like self induced type with iyroidism, which I've
had and reversed by the way, using all the methods
that we're talking about here, which is the right testing
absorbing nutrients without digestion, without requiring digestion. What that means
is the particle size of these minerals is so so different.
(21:37):
I don't think I mentioned it, so just side note there.
People can see that on the site as well. It's
just it's it's like the difference between taking a jet
versus a model T car to the destination. It's like
trying to absorb, taking something your body is forced to
absorb and digest and break down versus something that it
(21:58):
assimilates without needing to die. All right, So from there,
I go to college pretty brain fogs, and I don't
really understand why, because I'm pretty fit and one of
the more fit people among my friends always throughout my life,
and yet I have a lot of brain fog. And
(22:20):
it's not because I'm not disciplined or I just I'm
struggling to focus, and so I get on Adderall that
makes it worse, of course, because why you're causing more deficiencies,
You're speeding up the effort required of the entire indecerent system.
And it's just I don't recommend it for anyone. There's
(22:42):
so many better solutions there literally for everyone, and I
read about that in my book that's coming out in
a couple of months called that How Nutrition Becomes Personality.
So how nutrition becomes personality is kind of what we're
talking about here too. The early points I realized, if
we don't don't fix these things, they become our destiny first,
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they become our personality.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
How people know us, like, oh, or you kind of
you know aloof?
Speaker 1 (23:09):
Or are you focused and driven and you get things
done and you enjoy lights and you're at the moment,
you're present?
Speaker 3 (23:15):
Are you scattered in eighty D?
Speaker 1 (23:16):
And so that's how we know ourselves, that's how we
talk to ourselves, that's how we show up. That becomes
you can see, very obviously our personality and ultimately destiny.
And so I realized this energy equation pretty early, you know,
because of wrestling. You'd eat a banana and you'd feel
a certain way. You'd eat a protein shape, you'd feel
a certain way. You'd need a different type of protein, shake,
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you feel a different way. And I was literally learning
this at eight or so in that early nineties, and
and so that carried with me and I had this intuitive,
you know, feedback loop.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
And so what I realized.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
What brought this to you so young at age eight.
What this understanding?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Yeah, wrestling the forced Yeah, because you make weight and
you have to you actually have to watch what you eat, right,
otherwise you won't make your weight class. Just like you
see mma, you see them weigh in same thing. In fact,
most of those people are wrestlers, and so yeah, so
you look at that and you go, okay, all right,
(24:23):
nutrition obviously matters.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
That has a big effect. And then from there's many layers.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I think the thing that really cracked me open was
I knew a ton about nutrition by the time I
was twenty, more than most nutritionists would would know. I
just had that intensity. And then I had chemical engineering,
which was like the Hubble telescope looking at nutrition, understanding
hardest physics, hardest math, all this a lot of the
hardest chemistry. And then you look at that and you
(24:49):
go like, all right, some of the stuff that people
are talking about makes no sense. And they're just parroting things, fortunately,
and not that they mean to. They just they think
that's right, and they don't understand the larger picture and
why that couldn't possibly true be true. Elon calls this
thinking from first principles which is a really easy and
clean way to say it. And so I had all
(25:11):
of this, and yet I still wasn't able to get
my mother well. And so she eventually had an aneurysm a
few years later, never woke up. And I thought for
a while that I was working mainly for myself, like, oh, well,
you know, I want to have a brain that works.
I want to be able to achieve a lot in life.
(25:31):
I want to I really want to make an impact.
I want to help people. I want to reduce suffering.
That's why I feel like I'm here and I see
so many people suffering. It could be just cramps. They're debilitating,
like cramps, foot cramps, pms. Even it could be headaches, migraines.
If you ever have a migraine, you would pray, I
(25:51):
mean you would do It'd cross the world for a solution,
and we solve that for people, and we also prevent
a lot of this too, and so and granted there's
different types of headaches and migraines, and that's a double
click thing for later possibly, but in a different show,
this just drove me. It drove me to I mean,
(26:13):
when you lose a parent, especially one that you're very
close to We're close as a family luckily, and you know,
I was just thinking, you have so much wisdom is
lost when the old die down, even even if you're
okay in that peace.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
With it, it shouldn't happen, and it's not a good
path forward for the development of our species.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
So using now technology is clearly the way, and I
mean it's what has to be done really to reverse
the deep deficiencies that we have and therefore give us
the chance to have the life we can.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Well, okay, So one of the things that really I
struggle with is clinical trials because they can truly reflect
what it means to be a human living on earth
and how we engage with minerals or medications. But then
(27:11):
other times they're designed so poorly we don't get information
that we really need from them. So I'd love to
hear what you've learned along the way about clinical trials,
what makes them good, what makes them potentially problematic, and
(27:36):
what do you think that we have learned about mineral supperit,
especially as it relates to sleep from clinical trials.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Well, super the thing that just straight away the most
valuable thing for everyone listening is team of that I
realized that sleep was really our body's best chance at immortality.
And not that that that we're all trying to live forever,
but we want to live well while we're here and sleep.
(28:08):
If you sleep well, you always know you have a
great day astor you're more resilient, you're smarter, you have
like a sixty five percent lower chance of snacking and
breaking your diet or your lifestyle that you're following. And
so yeah, what's called a double blind, placebo controlled third
(28:31):
party clinical trial is the gold standard, and those are
going to be run with a certain specification and then
you know it's it's legitimate if they can get published
in something legitimate. So I actually did this for to
prove the absorption technology that we have for all of
(28:53):
our mineral products. We have about twenty five products. They're
all the minerals that out there in some blends and
super high dose well, super efficacious, super effective, and they're
really good at reversing our deficiency. So things like fairly
high desiodine because we're all so incredibly deficient. If you
(29:14):
took if you took the one hundred percent DV for
the rest of your life, you'd be deficient.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Every day for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Because a lot of our daily values are so insignificantly
small that they're really, I believe, just meant to keep
us outside of potentially disease. It's not it's built by
a system not in their favor, I'll say that. And
anyone that really knows this area notice that that's for
(29:42):
sure true. Unfortunately, and so we need we need a
lot of it. And so I took our magnesium product
upgrade at Magnesium ran it through a sleep clinical trial
that was again third party, which means completely hands off
by the company that's paying for it. Now obviously through
the funding has to come from the company because that's
where the interest is, but they have no say in it.
(30:05):
And so the study is designed in a certain way
that will, you know, show or not show a result,
and so and then placebo controlled I think everyone knows
what that means. And then yeah, yeah, so anyway, so
that's what we did, and we had literally the most effective,
(30:28):
the most exciting results ever seen in a sleep clinical
trial of before and afters so a lot better deep sleep,
specifically a lot better rim sleep than quite literally any
other product ever ever tested. And so now we're just
we call that product eight hour Sleep. That's our dose,
our clinical dose, that's good for men and women. Kids
(30:53):
can take a smaller dose of it. We literally all
as humans, all need us throughout our lives, literally nightly.
And so it's something I've you know, like we talked
about here in Europe right now, traveling, you've been out here,
lived out here. I don't go anywhere without quite a
few of these supplements, but that one certainly, because it's
(31:15):
so critical for sleep, and that is so critical for
everything else, including skinhealth, how your skin looks, how your
metabolism works, everything.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
So one of the things that I'm so fascinated about
when it comes to sleep is the difference between how children, adolescents, teenagers,
and adults sleep. And I have a girlfriend who one
of her children is going into that thirteen fourteen year
(31:49):
old age range, and she is, you know, over here complaining,
like She's like, lindsay, he stays up all night and
sleeps all day. And I'm like, you know, that's kind
of how melatonin is built in in teenagers. And so
(32:10):
I'd love to know how can we use minerals for
energy levels fighting fatigue at different ages so that we
can ensure that you know, parents aren't getting frustrated by
children staying up all night. And really, i'd also love
(32:34):
to know your opinion. And this is a little bit
of a more. I wouldn't exactly call it political, but
it is. It is thinking about the world and how
we set up our systems to support health. What do
you think about kids going to school at six point
(32:54):
thirty and seven o'clock in the morning when they're seventeen
years old? You know, how how how does that impact
our health when when we have these changes across a
lifetime in how we are supposed to sleep.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Sure, so you mentioned a couple of things there, and
they're all interesting.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
So the number one thing if you have kids or
even as adults, this is true for all of us.
I know we're not on video right now, but I
know I've got a phone over here in my hand,
and if this screen or this this you know, if
your screen is in our faces or we're around artificial lighting,
(33:35):
So anything besides a candle or red lights, if we
don't have those set up in our house, it's going
to reduce the amount of melatonin by like half in
some cases more. And so that hormone totally. I will
just say it. It is. It operates naturally. And so
(33:56):
there's a great sleep suity that showed that everyone that
thinks they have sleep issues after about a week they
took everyone camping, big group of people. By nine nine
thirty or so, everyone's sleep Why because they spent And
this is this is the other part of really answering
that question about the seven thirty. It depends on when
(34:16):
they're going to sleep. When we're all going to sleep,
and so our natural rhythm is to stop eating by
the time the sun is down. If we don't do that,
we're naturally going to either go to sleep later or
and not sleep as well because the body is digesting,
or both. And then therefore what does that lead? So
people are like, what time do you wake up? You know,
(34:38):
you have a great habit, you know your skin looks great,
like you know, lucky. I get a lot of great
compliments with this focus in health, and it's really like,
I feel like people are asking the wrong question. Is
what I say, Like, it's not about what time I
wake up, It's about what time I go to bed
and how how deeply I sleep. It's not how long
I sleep, it's how well, I sleep while I'm in bed,
(35:02):
and so we have this cheeky tagline for eight hour sleep,
which is be great in bed, and so that is
that is one hundred percent a big part of it. So, now,
how do you make melotonin? Damn sure, don't want to
take melotonin. In my opinion, it's a hormone. You don't
want to take hormones. That's an unintelligent view of doing things.
(35:26):
It's not understanding the system. If you it's it's at
some point it's acknowledging. Well, we don't really know what's
going on. We're going to give you this hormone, and
we don't know why you're not making enough. We know
you probably used to make enough, but you don't now
and it's like, oh, that's so not good enough. It
turns out if you have enough magnesium you absorb in
(35:47):
your body, you make any of melotonin, and then you
sleep deeply, and then the next morning your serotonin is
high too, because leftover melotonin conversus serotonin. Leftover serotonin converse
the melotonin. So in the morning, let's say you take
a little bit of magnesium, same product either upgrade magnesium.
(36:08):
In our sleep, that's what we did that sleep trial on,
then you're sleeping so well at our mutual fringe ata version.
She I think our favorite supplement period is our upgraded
migraine and cramp relief, which is also essentially a sleep product.
And so you know whether it's cramps or blue light
(36:30):
or you know from phones being our face. We just
we're developing bad habits because we life has never been
easier and.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
It's we can get by with it.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
And that's why people are doing it because as humans,
it's easy to just get by. And the ones of
us that like go on to live memorable, interesting lives
are the ones that go I want to design my life,
and that's what this is about.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
I love that so much. I love being able to
use health and wellness as a way to create a
life that we want to live. We're running out of time,
but I would love to know as we are closing out,
(37:19):
what are you working on that you really want to
share with us, and you know what has led you
to go down the pathway of writing a new book,
which is not an easy endepth.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
It really is four and a half year. Thanks for
the question. Is four and a half your journey and
it's really a culmination of like all my chemical engineering
really like fifteen years or so.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Of of just like being.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Like living sort of a life as a sage, learning, thinking, developing,
stress testing things in and then coming out and doing
things like this where I share what I've learned.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And so.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
I feel grateful to be able to do that and
it feels good to have that impact. And the book
is coming soon, so you can really find all of that.
And I'm working on you.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Know, about six new products or.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
In the works that are all pretty exciting, I think,
really effective. And I always my approaches.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
I try to.
Speaker 1 (38:36):
Model a lot of great inventors of the past, and
I don't really find interests in doing things that other
people can do or have done, and so the products
that we release really are special and different and in
a way and not just like cool, they are utilitary
and they're purposeful, and so yeah, that's really I think
(39:00):
people can find everything you can help on their newsletter,
dropping your email at upgraded formulas dot com and you'll stay,
you'll stay arrest all the latest there, and of course
we have you can find me there.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
So so Upgraded Formulas has this rigorous nanotechnology that is
going to give you individualized testing and consultation, which is
going to bring you something that only you can get
from this product. The other cool thing is that they
(39:35):
support humanitarian initiatives like clean water access and survivor recovery programs.
So this isn't just about how do we take our
hair analysis to understand really where we are in our body.
We're using supplements that have extremely high bioavailability through nano
(40:00):
technology and allowing each and every one of you to
go on a personalized journey along the way, because everybody
deserves to be healthy and everybody is going to get
there a different way. So if you want to check
out Upgraded Formulas, head to Upgraded Formulas dot com slash
(40:23):
Lindsey Elmore. That's going to save you twenty percent off
of anything that you want to check out until August fifteenth,
twenty twenty five, So you better get going pretty dang quick.
That is heading to Upgraded Formulas dot com slash Lindsey Elmore.
(40:43):
I am so excited that we were able to talk today.
Barton Scott, thank you so much for coming in today
and being a guest on the Lindsay Elmore Show, and.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
For all the listeners to super appreciate your time. Please
share this. If this was eliminating for you in any way,
I hope it was. Put a lot of heart and
soul into this for you, a lot of time scheduling.
Lindsay and I are busy with a lot of different things,
as I'm sure you are, with you and your family.
And yeah, if you don't, if you're listening to this
(41:14):
after that that deadline cut off, I believe there is
some level of discount still. There's just an early bird
action taker benefit sooner. So yeah, thank you, thank you
so much, and thank you Lindsay for having me on.
Speaker 2 (41:28):
Thank you all right, everybody. We will see you guys
next week. Thanks for listening in to the Lindsay Omore Show.
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