June 9, 2025 • 45 mins
In this thought-provoking episode, Lindsey Elmore welcomes performance coach Bill Banta to unpack why most self-help strategies don’t work—and what to do instead. Bill explores the difference between self-development and developing self, revealing how awareness, energy, and aligned identity are the true drivers of success. You’ll hear how repetition rewires your reality, why inner peace leads to outer speed, and how to finally stop consuming information you never implement. If you’ve ever felt stuck in a loop of doing more but becoming less, this episode offers a grounded, soul-deep reset. This isn’t another hustle-your-way-to-happy conversation—it’s an invitation to become someone worth following, starting with yourself.
Key Takeaways:
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Key Takeaways:
- Self-development is about accumulation; developing self is about transformation
- Calmness and internal harmony are the foundation for lasting momentum
- You will never outperform your identity—change must start within
- Most people are over-informed and under-implemented
- Repetition builds familiarity, which builds confidence and ultimately change
- 00:00 – Lindsey opens with reflection on real change
- 05:37 – Bill explains self-development vs. developing self
- 10:59 – Awareness as the ignition for transformation
- 14:39 – Calm creates speed: radio frequency and alignment
- 22:28 – Protecting your energetic field and setting intentions
- 31:51 – Why repetition builds truth in the subconscious
- 44:00 – Spiritual confidence, discernment, and trusting your inner voice
- Learn more about Bill: @billbanta.coaching
- Lindsey’s favorite reads: As a Man Thinketh, The Game of Life and How to Play It, Think and Grow Rich
- Practice: Start each morning by asking “What’s the energy I’m bringing into today?”
- Ep 225 | The Hormonal Blindspot: Why Ignoring Your Hormones Can Harm Your Health | Beth Westie
- Ep 244 | Detoxify Your Life: Strategies for Reducing Toxic Exposure | Dr. Rana Mafee
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I met my mentor, Bob Procter in my early twenties,
and Bob was probably one of the most foremost people
out there teaching paradigms and all those concepts around subconscious
and all those things. But he said, I never study
to gather knowledge. I studied to create understanding so that
I have awareness. And he said, because my experience is
(00:23):
way more important than my knowledge.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Welcome everyone to this week's edition of The Lindsay Elmore Show.
I am so excited for you to hear from today's guest.
Bill Banta has over thirty years of personal growth experience
and now he is a professional development coach who helps
people to navigate their personal journeys, helping them to have
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clarity and to take action. This is not a conversation
to be missed. We are going to talk about why
a discerning the truth is more important than knowledge. This
is the Lindsay Elmore Show. Welcome to The Lindsay Elmore Show,
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a podcast for people who deserve to be healthy. With honest,
open and enlightening conversations with doctors, thought leaders, creatives and
spiritual gurus. You'll walk away with simple and tangible tips
and tricks that allow you to live your healthiest life
so you can pursue your dreams, overcome obstacles, and leave
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your mark. Bill Banta is a season development and achievement
coach dedicated to helping individuals unlock their full potential and
elevate their lives. With over thirty years of personal growth experience,
including over fifteen years of direct mentorship with Bob Proctor
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and working with the Proctor Gallagher Institute, and now a
partner in Elevated World Worldwide and Elevated Alliance, his story
began over three decades ago, while struggling to find direction,
he was introduced to personal development. This marked a pivotal
moment in his life, sparking a profound transformation that reshaped
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not only his life, but the lives of his family,
children and now grandchildren. Bill Banta, Welcome to the Lindsay
Elmore Show.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, thank you, and it's because so good to see you.
It's a pleasure to get to do this with you,
somebody that's so dang amazing, and I'm sure you have
an amazing followed out there. It's an honor and privilege
for me.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, you are also absolutely amazing. Thirty years of personal
growth experience. Fifteen years of direct mentorship. You have worked
with people really who have changed other people's lives, and
you've turned it into proven systems and taught people how
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to craft daily routines that not only help them to
succeed succeed in their businesses, but really take care of
themselves as they do it, which I think is unique
in a lot of industries because a lot of the
time it's just go, go, go, go go, without a
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moment of purpose and why and you know, what are
we getting at and how is this going to lead
to an impact in the world. So let's start out.
You like to teach people that developing yourself is more
(03:47):
important than self development. Teach us the difference and why
you think it matters.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Such a good question. I I met my mentor, Bob Procter,
and in my early twenties, and Bob was probably one
of the most foremost people out there teaching paradigms and
all those and all those concepts around subconscious and all
those things. And behind me, I have a few shelves
(04:17):
full of books. I have a library in a different
part of my house with hundreds and maybe even a
thousand books. And I was sitting in Bob's office in
Toronto years ago, and I just was sitting at his
desk and he walked in and I said, hey, I've
got a question for you. You've had this book open
on your desk, on this bookholder. I said, I've been
up here four times in the last six months. It's
(04:37):
still on the same page. Like did you forget to
read this book or what's the deal? And he says, oh,
he said, you haven't learned what really about developing yourself meanings?
And I said, no, I guess I haven't. He said, listen,
we live in We live and work in an industry,
you and I where we coach and sell products all
day long, and people read and they and they get
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hope and then they get motivated and then they and
then they and then they stop and then they go backwards.
And he said, he said to me, he said, think
about it. He said, you saw those two pages open
on my desk for now six months. He said, there's
about four thousand books in my library. And he said,
I may have studied a little bit out of each
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one of them, but he said, I never study to
gather knowledge. I studied to create understanding. So that I
have awareness, and he said, because my experience is way
more important than my knowledge. And so he taught me that.
It was a Nevill Goddard book. It was the Power
of Awareness, which is an incredible book. And he and
he had it open on on on two pages one
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sixty three and one sixty four, and he said, I
haven't mastered the principles in those three paragraphs yet yet,
I mean six months. I said, sorry, are you reading
other things? He said, yeah, occasionally, but he said, I
really just spend my time focusing on that one. It's
my time to study during my day. And so when
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I start talking about development, when self development versus developing self,
look self development really refers to her or focuses on
more of a structured process general growth activities, reading, studying, coaching,
mindset or leadership development, attending seminars, online classes, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. You know, learning new habits, new skills.
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And one of the greatest things about about developing self
is is that you actually start to implement, you start
doing piece because developing self is really it's the intention
of developing self is it's just more of an internal
and more intentional. Who do I have to be, lindsay,
to achieve my goal? What piece of the puzzle am
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I not doing? By law that would attach me to
be the person who can accomplish my goal. It's who
I'm It's who I'm becoming. It's deeper than just that
fill you know, just some philosophy, but it's more. I mean,
some people might be offended by this, but it's really
more spiritual in nature. It's the inside of me and
(07:09):
just being more aware so that the awareness turns into doing.
I was taught at early Bob would say to me,
you're the only problem you have, but you're also the solution.
You're the problem, but you're also the solution. And un
tell you understand that experience is more important than knowledge.
You'll just keep studying to gather knowledge. So being more aware,
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and probably the key that stands out to me in
that question is that we have to cultivate integrity with
ourselves because we're listening to us twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week, and developing self means that when
I put something on my calendar, when I say I'm
going to do something, I've got to get to the
point where I actually do it, because when I don't
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do it, I'm creating doubt within myself, and I'm proving
that I have I'm proving to my sabotaging behavioral side
that it's correct rather than decided me that wants to
be an accomplished individual. And so my identity is really important,
and developing self has a lot to do with identity.
One of the greatest gifts we can give ourselves, lindsay,
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is that we have to know we'll never outperform our identity.
We will not outperform our own identity. And so if
you have a goal or a desired outcome, whether it's
health or relationships or finances or whatever it might be,
then developing yourself means I'm going to declare what that
identity of that person is, and then I'm just going
to go to work to become that person, rather than
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working on books and tapes and audios and podcasts all
that stuff, which are really really important. They're part of
the process. But I'm doing it with more intention and
I'm training my future self.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So let's go back to this, how awareness turns into doing.
I think that's profound statement because I think we all
just kind of do do do do do without really
having any purpose or meaning behind it. What do you
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mean when you say that awareness turns into doing well?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
B do have?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
B do have? Anybody can watch YouTube and learn how
to swim. Anybody can go study YouTube and learn how
to I mean, we could do it right now. We
could turn on a YouTube video and learn how to swim.
But until you're in the water and you're experiencing the
actual experience of the resistance and flotation and all those things,
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doesn't matter what you've learned. Awareness also comes by way
of desire, Like as you study to become, you start
generating desire, and desire actually manifests power, and so by
na we move into movement. I mean, I know enough
(10:04):
about your story. You've done some freaking, ridiculously big things.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The fact is the fact is that didn't happen by accident,
and we could call it human nature, and we she
worked a rear end off. No, you held that thought
long enough until you become aware enough to take enough steps,
and then momentum kicked in. And most of it didn't
even get created by you. It got created by other
people and people around you, and you were the catalyst
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and you just became a magnetic force for movement. And
awareness is a confidence. Awareness gives us that knowing inside,
like I don't wonder if I'm good at what I do.
I don't. There's no arrogance in it, like I know
I am because I have the experience, because I know
how to help an individual shift.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Mm hmmmmm. I love the idea that anybody can learn anything,
but until you put it into action, what is it matter?
So I was talking I've been going to a group
and they were kind of giving me a hard time
(11:11):
this morning about just how hard I work and how
much I've achieved and how much I've done, And they
were challenging me, what does it mean just to be
just to be present, just to be with yourself instead
of constantly striving, Because it seems like a lot of
(11:34):
people who are in this like growth mindset, they may
be striving, but for the wrong reasons, as you mentioned,
the sabotaging behavioral self. As we are looking at our
goals and our future and what we hope to achieve,
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how do we ensure that we're doing it from a
place of authenticity versus is a place of trying to
prove something to someone else.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Striving means making it a determined effort to achieve something
or reach a goal. It involves putting hard work. That's
the thing. Though we translate hard work into striving. We
think that there's this massive price to be paid once
we understand that striving in a calm mind, in a centered,
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I am here now mind, actually generates speed. It loves speed.
All things requisite of the things that we desire are
connected by whatever you're gonna call it. I call it energy.
I've got to get on the frequency. I gotta be
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on that frequency. I mean, I'm old enough to remember
my my parents had old cars that you had to
dial the radio station, you know, and hit the butts
and clicking to it, and it wouldn't quite it there
and you can kind of hear it, but you have
to dial it in. You have to get onto the
good that you desire. And one of the greatest gifts
we can give ourselves is to be steel. And by
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the way, being calm and learning to be present is
a learned trait. It's not natural because we live in
a in an a in an ocean of motion. We
live in a world that's moving, and we live in
short formed massive I mean, just just all these things
in chaos around us. So when you learn the language
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of calming down by law, you start to speed up.
And through calmness and being present, we we reach a
higher degree of of a of awareness. That's that again,
it's it's the original AI, right, It's it's that you
start to receive hunches and feel things. If I was
able to go back in your history and and monitor
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by plugging the USB into your brain, and we could
put it all out on chat, the times where Lindsay
created the most success and the biggest bank would be
when she was the most calm.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
How how can you prove that the biggest bang comes
from the most calm.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Because forcing the gates you can't put a square peg
in a round hole. But yet we're wired as humans
to grind and to push. You know what's interesting, Let's
talk about money when it comes to this. If you
want to earn more money, you've got to get into
the frequency of money, and you got to be call
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because money is shy and it must be attracted, right.
And when we start to force and we start to push,
it seems to flee and it takes longer to earn
six figures a year that it does to earn six
figures a month. When you start to pull out time,
you start to realize that it's all connected. To be
(14:59):
in present. I do think the word strive matters. I
just think we have to understand the word strive and
striving in the direction of being the person who can
create his or her opportunity and objectives in a more
simple way. I was taught so many times, Lizzie, do
you believe that God in the universe? No more than you? Yes, Bob,
(15:20):
I do. Then get on the damn horse and just
let them take control. Stop being in control, and once again,
if I had the ability to go back and rewind it,
look at all the things that you've done. Yes, you
were involved in the work. Yes you were pushing, but
there was a flow to your work and you were present.
You didn't get too far out there. You stayed out
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from back here. But most most people who don't develop
growth mindsets and developing themselves spend more time in the
past determining how they can spend time in the future.
And you can't do it.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So I think a lot of people when they think
about being present and calm they think about out meditation,
or they think about a yoga practice, or they think
about you know, quieting, quieting themselves down. But it sounds
like what you're saying is those same principles can be
adapted towards our own personal growth. How do you take
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this sort of meditative monk mindset and apply it in
a day to day in and out Every decision that
I need to make gets made from a place of awareness, presence,
and calm.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, we know by by study, if you've done any
work at all, that faith is a principle of action,
and that faith generates power. And one of the highest
forms of faith in my experience, is when I allow
myself to be calm enough that I develop an expectancy.
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I expect it. I don't wonder, I know. Now how
do you get there? You can't go there in a
chaotic mind. You won't physically or emotionally have enough control
of yourself to go there, because the checkbook will say opposite.
The results, the relationships, the health, the outside, the filter, smell, touch,
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all of those senses will be firing off saying no no.
Wallace Waddall's in the book The Science of Getting Enriched
sum dot up best when he said to see the truth,
regardless of appearances, is the first step in getting rich.
To see the truth, and so to get present it
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can't I mean, yeah, my munk and meditation, all that stuff,
that's great, but we can only bring to us what
we desire, and we can only take We can bring
it to us by that meditative thought process, but we
have the physical part of action. We got to take action.
So you can't stay in a state of wu all
the time. And I'm just gonna drain myself to rock star.
(18:07):
There is an action piece. And I just don't believe
that man's meant for work. I think work's meant for man.
We have to go to work to show ourselves that
faith means action, faith means power. But to get yourself
into that meditative state takes effort, It takes study. I
call it winning the day. I call it sacred time,
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whatever you want to call it. I just think you
have to You have to give yourself permission first thing.
Not at the end of the day. Now, as soon
as your feet hit the carpet of the hardwood, you
better be protecting you first, and you better be getting
into the objectives of what you desire and the person
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who can achieve his or her goal and do things
by system, not secret, do things on purpose that bring
you into that state. I'm an advocate for just a
few minutes of developing time in the morning. I just
think it's one of the greatest gifts we can give ourselves.
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And if my design is to be calm so that
the storms of the day can't throw me off of
my bike or my horse or whatever I'm riding into
the day, I'm just I have determined to help myself
and others become more spiritually and emotionally stable to stay
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in that lane of I'm going there, that place exists,
I'm doing that. All hell's breaking loose over here. But
the appearance is this, but the truth is this, and
it's that connection in doing the work of developing yourself,
the study, the repetition, the process. But I'll tell you something,
and I can sum up everything that I'm saying right here.
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If you don't have an emotional involvement of something you want,
you will discipline yourself to do it. I don't care
how much we can talk and how good it feels.
Our motive. Our motive can drive us for a few minutes.
But we have to do the work to get emotionally
involved in what our outcome is so that we'll do
the work to stay calm enough to bring to us
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people tools and resources to manifest it in the physical world.
We have to know why.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What are some of the other systems that you put
into place into daily routines that can only take just
a few moments, or maybe it's something that you go,
this is a year long plan, And how do you
encourage people not to lose sight of that emotional involvement
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of why they are doing what they are doing.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's awesome. First of all, I
think permission is the first word that comes to my mind.
We have to be mature enough as adults to say, Okay,
enough's enough. I'm gonna draw a line. Enough is enough.
I am drawing a line. I'm going to give myself
permission to stay connected to my outcome. If the if
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the if the if the train comes off the rails,
which it probably will for most of us often and
things happen in live it doesn't mean that I unattach
emotionally from the thing that I desire. Because we don't know,
We don't know exactly how we're gonna get to where
we want to go, because if we did, it wouldn't
even be a goal. Like but if, in Bob's word,
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if God and Universe know best, then we have to
do a great job of giving ourself permission. Einstein said,
one of the greatest gifts we can give ourselves to
decide whether we whether we live in a hostile universe
or a friendly universe. You can you can find that
on Google. Do we live in a hostile world? Do
I wake up immediately going into hostility? Do I grab
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my phone immediately go to Facebook and soulcial media, in
to my emails and to my text all that stuff?
Or or could I just take ten minutes and grab
a podcast like this? Could I just stick in my
ears before I leave the bed? Could I grab an
audio book? Can I listen whatever to you? Can I
do something that would amplify my frequency to give me
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the shield that I need against all the other things
of life. Comparison is one of the most dangerous things
in the world. And this breeds massive comparison, and it
will take you away from your goal faster than anything
that you can experience. Because we look and we see
I mean, if I was on the outside looking at
your success, if I didn't have any spiritual but I'd
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be going, oh my gosh, if she can do it,
I don't know if I can do it. What in
the reality is if Lindsay Elmore can do it, so
can I?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah? For sure, if I can do it, anyone can
do it. It just you know it. It just took
for me. It really took tapping into what do I
really love? And I love to teach. I love to teach.
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And the reason that I started this podcast was because
I had taught and taught and taught and taught, and
eventually I was like, there's got to be a lot
of people who have taught a lot of things that
I have not, and I get to learn from people
and show up. And I love this podcast because I
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get to connect the dots between Like, if you like
this show, listen to that show. If you like this show,
listen to that show. Because you know, today is all
about self development and how do we turn ourselves inwards
so that we can be successful. Other shows are all about,
you know, disease states and how do we heal them,
(23:53):
And other shows are all about the history of pharmaceuticals
and how you know things have gone to rye in
the way that we deliver medicine. All of those things
are meaningful to me when you get out of your
own way and stop living in that hostile environment, stop
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living in the negativity, and truly believe that you deserve greatness.
That to me is faith, it is spirituality, and our bodies,
in my opinion, are intended to heal and it. I
also say, like, you can't just believe you deserve to
be healthy. You have to be willing to take action
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to make yourself healthy. And on this show, that action
can be food, it can be exercised, it can be
detos of your home, it can be political activism to
change the systems. All of those are what I love
to talk to people about because I truly think the
body is intended to be in a state of health
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if we'll simply get out of our own our own way,
this hostility versus kind of positivity. I remember one time
I was playing I was playing bingo, and it wasn't
just average bingo, it was it was for personal development
and growth. And one of the questions that they asked
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is when you go into a room, do you assume
that everything is going to be great, or do you
assume that things can go completely sideways? And me I
was like, well, I'm just you know, everything's gonna be great,
things are gonna go well, and they were like, no,
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wrong answer, things are gonna go sideways. And I just
thought that is an interesting way of thinking about things,
because on the one hand, if you're kind of polyana
about it and you just go in and you're like,
I'm gonna make a million dollars this year and it's
just gonna happen, and then on the other hand, if
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you go things might go sideways. In my plans, I
don't want to think everything's gonna go wrong, but things
go wrong. How do you teach people to create that
balance between optimism and healthy skepticism.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean, look, failure is part of the day process.
And the hard thing is is that we're wired in
a world where we say a lot of stupid stuff
to ourselves. And Jenny, it was Trevor Moob that actually said,
don't say stupid stuff. You use those words, but he
don't say it, and it's difficult because we're trained to.
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I was in an interview with somebody and this is
going to reference this and this. This guy just built
a beautiful home in Texas. I said, how want it
take you to build the homie said just over two years? Cool.
I said, how long would it take you to burn
the dang thing down? And he said about forty five minutes.
And I said, yeah, well that's what you're doing every
dang day, dude. You're waking up and you're burning down
what you spend years in development work and you're burning
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it down. And so the balance between that, or maybe
balance is even the right word. Maybe the harmony between
that is to develop the awareness to study repetition and processes,
to get the confidence to go, wait a minute, self,
you're on the wrong side of the fence here today,
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and I need you to stop and to have that
ability to stop yourself. To me, that's the essence of
personal development and or developing self. It's emotional control, because
if the emotional involvement of our wants is desire, wants
don't have to be tied to everything we like. Wants
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could be tied to be what we don't like because
we're so emotionally addicted to well, it's just not gonna
work out. So you can't just be positive. You can't
just self medica and go, well everything's gonna be perfect,
then it's gonna be fine. No, the wheels are gonna
come off the bus on the way to success. Because
if we truly deserve, like you said, health or financial prosperity,
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the price that we have to pay isn't the physical
as much as it is the emotional part. Between the
six inches of our ears and our emotional control. Our
personal inside development mandates that the law of compensation in
all areas that we seek compensates. It's by law. I mean,
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I don't make that up. And for instance, like somebody
said to me, how do I get to where I'm
more positive? Well, you've got to use the mother of learning.
You've got to do the work right. I mean, if
I wanted to lose thirty more pounds today, I know
that there's just simple science behind learning. You know, less, eating, more, exercise,
better sleep and etc. EXCEPTERA, the nights supplements and all
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the things. And then in time, my body you will
do exactly what it's to your point, it's designed to do. However,
I can't just say that I deserve it. I believe
we all deserve it because we're created in an image
of one of the greatest creators in the entire universe,
and so we have to qualify for it. So the
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mother of learning is repetition, and anything we're going to
get good at we have to do in time and
repetition and practice and determination is actually the thing that
builds our confidence.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, it's interesting that you would bring up repetition because
we also, you know, I really want to talk about
it's really easy to learn skills or to find this
awareness and turn it into doing, and it lasts for
like a month, and then all of a sudden, you're like,
(29:52):
I'm tired of waking up forty five minutes earlier so
that I can read and journal and listen to a
fifteen minute long podcast. How do you keep people in
that mindset of like I am going to retain this,
I am going to apply it, and it is going
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to become a lifestyle and not something that I do
for the sake of doing.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That's a perfect question. I first of all, for me
and my attention span, this is just for me. It's
not that easy for me to sit here for forty
five minutes like I just I'm just it's just me,
and so I've implemented this into my life. So I
like to either walk or beyond the treadmill first thing
in the morning. It's just what I do. So in
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goes the earbuds. I do my audio stuff while I'm walking,
or while I'm on the treadmill, or when I'm in
my mobile university my car. Right my writing stuff takes
about fifteen to twenty minutes. I use a process. I
use gratitude. There's just some things I do to make
sure that I'm in the frequency. Everybody that's studied understands
that there's just simple to it. But throughout my day,
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I'm constantly just implementing it into my life and through repetition.
By the way, the power of repetition, when you understand
the principle behind of it, it generates memory. There's there's
like neurological pathways like start to switch. And when neurological
pathways switch, and you're you're you're you're attempting to build
a new skill or desire or a new behavior. If
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you'll just use repetition as a prescribed opportunity, what you're
really telling your subconscious minding or your brain. If you
want to say it this way too. On the physical side,
this is important, but I'm just gonna do it with ease.
I study and I do things at a relaxed state.
I'm never critical of myself because if I sit down here,
pull out my notebook and all my books and I
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just check boxes, I might as well just watch TV
because if you just check boxes, you're just building more resistance.
Repetition moves learning from short term into long term memory too.
It moves it. There's science behind all this. It builds confidence,
it creates mastery. We've talked about that. It creates mastery,
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and then mostly it just conditions you. So how do
I get the person to do it? It takes patience
and time. But what I truly believe, Lindsay, is that
you just integrated into your life. I've had people, literally clients,
say I've got kids, I gotta get kids to school,
I got my husband all these things. I went and
(32:31):
bought a shower speaker. Does that count? I'm like, yes,
because you're in the dang shower every day anyways. Yes,
just give yourself enough time for self care and don't
be so rigid about it. Yes, having a dedicated times important,
and yes, it breeds consistency, but in the beginning, until
there's a massive desire because you become hungry, because you
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start to see results just integrated into your life in
a simple way.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'd love to know some of your favorite resources. What
are the podcasts that you listen to, What are some
of your favorite books that you keep going back to
over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, of course I'm gonna admire that guy. I like
add my lead I just because he's strong, and I
like all that stuff. There's a ton of them out there,
and I'm mostly though more I'm not as much a
podcast guy as I am a repetition guy with audios,
and so I like the old stuff. Like I'm a
(33:36):
huge fan of audio books. Like for me, I love
to listen to audio books, doesn't matter what book it is.
I'm a big audiobook person because I can put it
on one time speed or two time speed, and I
can just go over and over and over and over
and over, and then I find myself repeating this stuff.
But some of my favorite books are I mean, this
(33:57):
book here is impeccable. I've wore it out. I mean
it's falling apart.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It is those of you that aren't watching that book. Literally,
the binding just came completely off of that book.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
You Squared by Price Pritchett. Because it's easy. It's like
thirty five pages, and it's simple, and it's a little short,
two paragraph chapters, three paragraph chapters, and I love You
Squared because it teaches that essence of high frequency quantum
leaping and it's so profound. I'm a massive fan of
Wallace WADA's work. The science are getting rich. It's deep.
(34:29):
Pick something to study it for the next six months
or a year. Don't go get a whole bunch of stuff,
don't gather knowledge. Pick something that's amazing. Pick one audio
and use it for three or four, five weeks or
six weeks, and get really good at mastering something. I
teach an entrepreneurial group and I meet with them every Wednesday.
And today we wrapped up a study and I said,
(34:50):
now there's seven principles that were taught over the last
four months. None of you can master seven. Pick one,
and I want you to send me a message of
one principle now that we're going to start a new study.
That new study has to help you master that principle.
Just get really good science, are getting rich, you know,
stop worrying and start living. I could go all the way.
(35:12):
I'm looking at all my all my read list here
and I and I'm a I mean I'm a traveler,
mo Ab and doctor Mall mactual Malt Psycho Cybernetics up
Nobody's if you haven't read that book, it's a lot
of the coolest identity books on the planet. Napoleon Hill
is I'm super connected in Napoleon Hill and all of
his work because of Bob Procter. I would just say
(35:33):
this that our our influence, lindsay, is preceded by our
frequency and the influence we have in the marketplace and
the things that we do. We're not We shouldn't study
anything just to study. We should study to understand that
what we are studying are actual mechanisms for change. They're
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not books. They're mechanisms. There's processes and systems, and we're
really not studying to read. We're studying to remember to
remember who we really are. That's what people buy. People
don't buy fancy hairs and fancy cars and all the
(36:15):
stuff that the industry promotes. They buy authentic, real things.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I'd love that's it. Authentic and real is what people want.
They want the messy. My friend and I were talking
the other day and he sent me. He sent me,
you can't like her, and it's this, you know, just
a sketch of a pretty girl in a nice little
dress until you love. And then he sends me a
(36:44):
picture of pig Pen from Charlie Brown. You know, until
you love your messy, you can't quite get at the pretty.
And I think people like that authenticity that comes from it.
We're quickly running out of time, but we've talked so
much about truth today. How do you train people to
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craft their discernment.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
One to another podcast? Discernment is driven from intuitive gifts
in my in my learning experience. Now, there's probably a
lot that we could go into. I can publicly state this,
I know you because I know me, and my discernment
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and my capacity to understand the person I'm speaking to
stems from the dedication and the failure of dedication repeated
over and over and over, of developing myself until I
know who I am. I I like my messy and
I really like my put togetherness. I like them both,
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and I can and and and studying self is the
key to developing intuitive intuitive gifts intuition and discernment. Discernment
has a meaning of judgment in the case of learning
how to discern, it's our ability to trust our own
thoughts and perceptions and be able to decide is it danger?
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Is it not danger. The challenge with most humans is
that they translate and they discern something that's not well,
it's not working. I've been in this business three years
and it's not working, so it can't be for me.
M so or I prayed about it, and I don't. No,
you're praying every day. It's just that you're not on
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your knees verbally pray and I'm not. I'm for prayer.
It's my it's my faith. But discernment comes from intuitive
gifts and they have to be developed. Now, we have
a natural thing. Women in my personal experience are natural
at it if they'll give themselves permission. Because you're maternal, right,
you're instinctal, there's that higher level of sixth sense, all
(39:06):
that stuff that comes in the feminine creative energy that
comes in a female. We have to work a little
bit harder at it on the male side because we're
more mascular. Iys is going to pound the nail and
and but but I will tell you this discernment comes
from developing understanding. M I know you because I know me,
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And Bob would say that built the outside tells me
so much about what's going on the inside. And if
we learn to understand that the word trust is really
you have to be really careful with the word trust.
I can't ever trust Lindsay. I have to trust me.
I trust me. I will know if Lindsay is an
(39:51):
amazing person or not. Yeah, I we'll know if I'm
supposed to drive my car off the cliff or not.
I can just yet, you don't ever do that. I
will know if I'm socesed to call this person or not.
And when you practice discernment and you practice your intuition,
you'll start to see that it too, is a mastery process.
(40:14):
I'm super confident in my intuition and my discernment. I'm
very confident. I want to be better. And so that's honestly,
if I summed up everything that we've talked about today,
it's why this book is so we're out. I want
to know more about me so that I can be
better for you. And the more I know me, the
better I will know you, and then I'll know how
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to help you. I can discern immediately how to serve
and help you.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. My not to get not
to get to Christian on this podcast, but you know
it is both of our our faiths. And my friend
and I were debating the other day about what is sin,
because you know, there's there's a lot of different interpretations.
(41:00):
Every church has a different interpretation. Some are very strict,
some are more loose, and she and I ultimately said,
what if sin is if you know intuitively in your
gut that God's spirit, whatever you want to call it,
is saying this is the truth, this is the way,
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this is how you go, this is the next right step,
this is how you stay calm in this decision, and
you ignore it. That to me is the ultimate denial
of self, which makes you inauthentic and to your point,
makes you less relatable to other people.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, you know, James Allen, y'all want to grab something amazing.
In fact, i'd promote this here in the last chapter
of the book called as a Man Think if there's
a chapter called Serenity, and I would highly promote that
you'd just google it, print it off, and study that document,
because he says in there to your point, it's like
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the third paragraph that the calm man or the calm woman,
having learned to govern themselves, know how to adapt themselves
to others, and they then in turn reverence their spiritual
strength and feel that they can learn from them and
rely upon them. It's our duty, it's our responsibility to
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develop discernment from the inside and to become men and
women who can be used. And I think the word
sins again, there's lots of lots of ideas around that,
but you nailed it. One of the major pieces of
sin is not honoring are the real purpose of why
we're alive and what we're intended to do, and denying
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that power and that self doubt and all the things
that come with life and trauma and all those things.
But there's a solution. I'm the problem. There's also I'm
part of the solution when I adopt that without emotion,
I'm given and granted would be a better word. I'm
granted the power as long as I start acting and
doing and striving in the right energy to become the
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man or the woman who can have that internal flamed
thing that's telling us it's ours without hesitation. If I
was asked what my goal was on the street, financially,
I can tell you in two seconds, and I don't
doubt it. I don't know how, but I don't doubt
it because I know that by doubt, just by just
that feeling, I am conveying a message to the world
(43:35):
and to the very God that created me that I
don't trust him. So I just have to be bold
and confident. I don't have to know how, I just
have to know why, and I will develop myself to
be that person. And that's a statement to impress upon
each of us. We're not it's not a coincidence that
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we can feel more or designed for more, but the
more could be better, and if we could just do better,
better is better, and we could leave more along for
a while until we understand ourselves enough to go deeper.
If we're just better, just better, if nothing else, be better,
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so that you can have trust in yourself to walk forward.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Bill Banta, this has been absolutely a phenomenal conversation. I
have loved things that we have covered about how faith
is principle and action, how we can turn our awareness
into doing how we can turn a massive effort into
just doing the good every single day while being calm
(44:43):
and slowing down can actually help us to pick up speed.
I have loved this conversation so much. Thank you for
coming in and being a guest on the Lindsay Elmore Show.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
My Pleasure anytime, Step Still
I met my mentor, Bob Procter in my early twenties,
and Bob was probably one of the most foremost people
out there teaching paradigms and all those concepts around subconscious
and all those things. But he said, I never study
to gather knowledge. I studied to create understanding so that
I have awareness. And he said, because my experience is
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way more important than my knowledge.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Welcome everyone to this week's edition of The Lindsay Elmore Show.
I am so excited for you to hear from today's guest.
Bill Banta has over thirty years of personal growth experience
and now he is a professional development coach who helps
people to navigate their personal journeys, helping them to have
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clarity and to take action. This is not a conversation
to be missed. We are going to talk about why
a discerning the truth is more important than knowledge. This
is the Lindsay Elmore Show. Welcome to The Lindsay Elmore Show,
(01:10):
a podcast for people who deserve to be healthy. With honest,
open and enlightening conversations with doctors, thought leaders, creatives and
spiritual gurus. You'll walk away with simple and tangible tips
and tricks that allow you to live your healthiest life
so you can pursue your dreams, overcome obstacles, and leave
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your mark. Bill Banta is a season development and achievement
coach dedicated to helping individuals unlock their full potential and
elevate their lives. With over thirty years of personal growth experience,
including over fifteen years of direct mentorship with Bob Proctor
(01:54):
and working with the Proctor Gallagher Institute, and now a
partner in Elevated World Worldwide and Elevated Alliance, his story
began over three decades ago, while struggling to find direction,
he was introduced to personal development. This marked a pivotal
moment in his life, sparking a profound transformation that reshaped
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not only his life, but the lives of his family,
children and now grandchildren. Bill Banta, Welcome to the Lindsay
Elmore Show.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Well, thank you, and it's because so good to see you.
It's a pleasure to get to do this with you,
somebody that's so dang amazing, and I'm sure you have
an amazing followed out there. It's an honor and privilege
for me.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
Well, you are also absolutely amazing. Thirty years of personal
growth experience. Fifteen years of direct mentorship. You have worked
with people really who have changed other people's lives, and
you've turned it into proven systems and taught people how
(03:03):
to craft daily routines that not only help them to
succeed succeed in their businesses, but really take care of
themselves as they do it, which I think is unique
in a lot of industries because a lot of the
time it's just go, go, go, go go, without a
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moment of purpose and why and you know, what are
we getting at and how is this going to lead
to an impact in the world. So let's start out.
You like to teach people that developing yourself is more
(03:47):
important than self development. Teach us the difference and why
you think it matters.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Such a good question. I I met my mentor, Bob Procter,
and in my early twenties, and Bob was probably one
of the most foremost people out there teaching paradigms and
all those and all those concepts around subconscious and all
those things. And behind me, I have a few shelves
(04:17):
full of books. I have a library in a different
part of my house with hundreds and maybe even a
thousand books. And I was sitting in Bob's office in
Toronto years ago, and I just was sitting at his
desk and he walked in and I said, hey, I've
got a question for you. You've had this book open
on your desk, on this bookholder. I said, I've been
up here four times in the last six months. It's
(04:37):
still on the same page. Like did you forget to
read this book or what's the deal? And he says, oh,
he said, you haven't learned what really about developing yourself meanings?
And I said, no, I guess I haven't. He said, listen,
we live in We live and work in an industry,
you and I where we coach and sell products all
day long, and people read and they and they get
(04:58):
hope and then they get motivated and then they and
then they and then they stop and then they go backwards.
And he said, he said to me, he said, think
about it. He said, you saw those two pages open
on my desk for now six months. He said, there's
about four thousand books in my library. And he said,
I may have studied a little bit out of each
(05:19):
one of them, but he said, I never study to
gather knowledge. I studied to create understanding. So that I
have awareness, and he said, because my experience is way
more important than my knowledge. And so he taught me that.
It was a Nevill Goddard book. It was the Power
of Awareness, which is an incredible book. And he and
he had it open on on on two pages one
(05:40):
sixty three and one sixty four, and he said, I
haven't mastered the principles in those three paragraphs yet yet,
I mean six months. I said, sorry, are you reading
other things? He said, yeah, occasionally, but he said, I
really just spend my time focusing on that one. It's
my time to study during my day. And so when
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I start talking about development, when self development versus developing self,
look self development really refers to her or focuses on
more of a structured process general growth activities, reading, studying, coaching,
mindset or leadership development, attending seminars, online classes, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. You know, learning new habits, new skills.
(06:26):
And one of the greatest things about about developing self
is is that you actually start to implement, you start
doing piece because developing self is really it's the intention
of developing self is it's just more of an internal
and more intentional. Who do I have to be, lindsay,
to achieve my goal? What piece of the puzzle am
(06:48):
I not doing? By law that would attach me to
be the person who can accomplish my goal. It's who
I'm It's who I'm becoming. It's deeper than just that
fill you know, just some philosophy, but it's more. I mean,
some people might be offended by this, but it's really
more spiritual in nature. It's the inside of me and
(07:09):
just being more aware so that the awareness turns into doing.
I was taught at early Bob would say to me,
you're the only problem you have, but you're also the solution.
You're the problem, but you're also the solution. And un
tell you understand that experience is more important than knowledge.
You'll just keep studying to gather knowledge. So being more aware,
(07:33):
and probably the key that stands out to me in
that question is that we have to cultivate integrity with
ourselves because we're listening to us twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week, and developing self means that when
I put something on my calendar, when I say I'm
going to do something, I've got to get to the
point where I actually do it, because when I don't
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do it, I'm creating doubt within myself, and I'm proving
that I have I'm proving to my sabotaging behavioral side
that it's correct rather than decided me that wants to
be an accomplished individual. And so my identity is really important,
and developing self has a lot to do with identity.
One of the greatest gifts we can give ourselves, lindsay,
(08:15):
is that we have to know we'll never outperform our identity.
We will not outperform our own identity. And so if
you have a goal or a desired outcome, whether it's
health or relationships or finances or whatever it might be,
then developing yourself means I'm going to declare what that
identity of that person is, and then I'm just going
to go to work to become that person, rather than
(08:38):
working on books and tapes and audios and podcasts all
that stuff, which are really really important. They're part of
the process. But I'm doing it with more intention and
I'm training my future self.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
So let's go back to this, how awareness turns into doing.
I think that's profound statement because I think we all
just kind of do do do do do without really
having any purpose or meaning behind it. What do you
(09:13):
mean when you say that awareness turns into doing well?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
B do have?
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
B do have? Anybody can watch YouTube and learn how
to swim. Anybody can go study YouTube and learn how
to I mean, we could do it right now. We
could turn on a YouTube video and learn how to swim.
But until you're in the water and you're experiencing the
actual experience of the resistance and flotation and all those things,
(09:43):
doesn't matter what you've learned. Awareness also comes by way
of desire, Like as you study to become, you start
generating desire, and desire actually manifests power, and so by
na we move into movement. I mean, I know enough
(10:04):
about your story. You've done some freaking, ridiculously big things.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
The fact is the fact is that didn't happen by accident,
and we could call it human nature, and we she
worked a rear end off. No, you held that thought
long enough until you become aware enough to take enough steps,
and then momentum kicked in. And most of it didn't
even get created by you. It got created by other
people and people around you, and you were the catalyst
(10:29):
and you just became a magnetic force for movement. And
awareness is a confidence. Awareness gives us that knowing inside,
like I don't wonder if I'm good at what I do.
I don't. There's no arrogance in it, like I know
I am because I have the experience, because I know
how to help an individual shift.
Speaker 2 (10:50):
Mm hmmmmm. I love the idea that anybody can learn anything,
but until you put it into action, what is it matter?
So I was talking I've been going to a group
and they were kind of giving me a hard time
(11:11):
this morning about just how hard I work and how
much I've achieved and how much I've done, And they
were challenging me, what does it mean just to be
just to be present, just to be with yourself instead
of constantly striving, Because it seems like a lot of
(11:34):
people who are in this like growth mindset, they may
be striving, but for the wrong reasons, as you mentioned,
the sabotaging behavioral self. As we are looking at our
goals and our future and what we hope to achieve,
(11:54):
how do we ensure that we're doing it from a
place of authenticity versus is a place of trying to
prove something to someone else.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Striving means making it a determined effort to achieve something
or reach a goal. It involves putting hard work. That's
the thing. Though we translate hard work into striving. We
think that there's this massive price to be paid once
we understand that striving in a calm mind, in a centered,
(12:27):
I am here now mind, actually generates speed. It loves speed.
All things requisite of the things that we desire are
connected by whatever you're gonna call it. I call it energy.
I've got to get on the frequency. I gotta be
(12:49):
on that frequency. I mean, I'm old enough to remember
my my parents had old cars that you had to
dial the radio station, you know, and hit the butts
and clicking to it, and it wouldn't quite it there
and you can kind of hear it, but you have
to dial it in. You have to get onto the
good that you desire. And one of the greatest gifts
we can give ourselves is to be steel. And by
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the way, being calm and learning to be present is
a learned trait. It's not natural because we live in
a in an a in an ocean of motion. We
live in a world that's moving, and we live in
short formed massive I mean, just just all these things
in chaos around us. So when you learn the language
(13:31):
of calming down by law, you start to speed up.
And through calmness and being present, we we reach a
higher degree of of a of awareness. That's that again,
it's it's the original AI, right, It's it's that you
start to receive hunches and feel things. If I was
able to go back in your history and and monitor
(13:55):
by plugging the USB into your brain, and we could
put it all out on chat, the times where Lindsay
created the most success and the biggest bank would be
when she was the most calm.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
How how can you prove that the biggest bang comes
from the most calm.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Because forcing the gates you can't put a square peg
in a round hole. But yet we're wired as humans
to grind and to push. You know what's interesting, Let's
talk about money when it comes to this. If you
want to earn more money, you've got to get into
the frequency of money, and you got to be call
(14:36):
because money is shy and it must be attracted, right.
And when we start to force and we start to push,
it seems to flee and it takes longer to earn
six figures a year that it does to earn six
figures a month. When you start to pull out time,
you start to realize that it's all connected. To be
(14:59):
in present. I do think the word strive matters. I
just think we have to understand the word strive and
striving in the direction of being the person who can
create his or her opportunity and objectives in a more
simple way. I was taught so many times, Lizzie, do
you believe that God in the universe? No more than you? Yes, Bob,
(15:20):
I do. Then get on the damn horse and just
let them take control. Stop being in control, and once again,
if I had the ability to go back and rewind it,
look at all the things that you've done. Yes, you
were involved in the work. Yes you were pushing, but
there was a flow to your work and you were present.
You didn't get too far out there. You stayed out
(15:41):
from back here. But most most people who don't develop
growth mindsets and developing themselves spend more time in the
past determining how they can spend time in the future.
And you can't do it.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
So I think a lot of people when they think
about being present and calm they think about out meditation,
or they think about a yoga practice, or they think
about you know, quieting, quieting themselves down. But it sounds
like what you're saying is those same principles can be
adapted towards our own personal growth. How do you take
(16:20):
this sort of meditative monk mindset and apply it in
a day to day in and out Every decision that
I need to make gets made from a place of awareness, presence,
and calm.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, we know by by study, if you've done any
work at all, that faith is a principle of action,
and that faith generates power. And one of the highest
forms of faith in my experience, is when I allow
myself to be calm enough that I develop an expectancy.
(16:59):
I expect it. I don't wonder, I know. Now how
do you get there? You can't go there in a
chaotic mind. You won't physically or emotionally have enough control
of yourself to go there, because the checkbook will say opposite.
The results, the relationships, the health, the outside, the filter, smell, touch,
(17:21):
all of those senses will be firing off saying no no.
Wallace Waddall's in the book The Science of Getting Enriched
sum dot up best when he said to see the truth,
regardless of appearances, is the first step in getting rich.
To see the truth, and so to get present it
(17:42):
can't I mean, yeah, my munk and meditation, all that stuff,
that's great, but we can only bring to us what
we desire, and we can only take We can bring
it to us by that meditative thought process, but we
have the physical part of action. We got to take action.
So you can't stay in a state of wu all
the time. And I'm just gonna drain myself to rock star.
(18:07):
There is an action piece. And I just don't believe
that man's meant for work. I think work's meant for man.
We have to go to work to show ourselves that
faith means action, faith means power. But to get yourself
into that meditative state takes effort, It takes study. I
call it winning the day. I call it sacred time,
(18:30):
whatever you want to call it. I just think you
have to You have to give yourself permission first thing.
Not at the end of the day. Now, as soon
as your feet hit the carpet of the hardwood, you
better be protecting you first, and you better be getting
into the objectives of what you desire and the person
(18:52):
who can achieve his or her goal and do things
by system, not secret, do things on purpose that bring
you into that state. I'm an advocate for just a
few minutes of developing time in the morning. I just
think it's one of the greatest gifts we can give ourselves.
(19:12):
And if my design is to be calm so that
the storms of the day can't throw me off of
my bike or my horse or whatever I'm riding into
the day, I'm just I have determined to help myself
and others become more spiritually and emotionally stable to stay
(19:34):
in that lane of I'm going there, that place exists,
I'm doing that. All hell's breaking loose over here. But
the appearance is this, but the truth is this, and
it's that connection in doing the work of developing yourself,
the study, the repetition, the process. But I'll tell you something,
and I can sum up everything that I'm saying right here.
(19:57):
If you don't have an emotional involvement of something you want,
you will discipline yourself to do it. I don't care
how much we can talk and how good it feels.
Our motive. Our motive can drive us for a few minutes.
But we have to do the work to get emotionally
involved in what our outcome is so that we'll do
the work to stay calm enough to bring to us
(20:18):
people tools and resources to manifest it in the physical world.
We have to know why.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
What are some of the other systems that you put
into place into daily routines that can only take just
a few moments, or maybe it's something that you go,
this is a year long plan, And how do you
encourage people not to lose sight of that emotional involvement
(20:49):
of why they are doing what they are doing.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, yeah, I mean that's awesome. First of all, I
think permission is the first word that comes to my mind.
We have to be mature enough as adults to say, Okay,
enough's enough. I'm gonna draw a line. Enough is enough.
I am drawing a line. I'm going to give myself
permission to stay connected to my outcome. If the if
(21:13):
the if the if the train comes off the rails,
which it probably will for most of us often and
things happen in live it doesn't mean that I unattach
emotionally from the thing that I desire. Because we don't know,
We don't know exactly how we're gonna get to where
we want to go, because if we did, it wouldn't
even be a goal. Like but if, in Bob's word,
(21:35):
if God and Universe know best, then we have to
do a great job of giving ourself permission. Einstein said,
one of the greatest gifts we can give ourselves to
decide whether we whether we live in a hostile universe
or a friendly universe. You can you can find that
on Google. Do we live in a hostile world? Do
I wake up immediately going into hostility? Do I grab
(21:58):
my phone immediately go to Facebook and soulcial media, in
to my emails and to my text all that stuff?
Or or could I just take ten minutes and grab
a podcast like this? Could I just stick in my
ears before I leave the bed? Could I grab an
audio book? Can I listen whatever to you? Can I
do something that would amplify my frequency to give me
(22:21):
the shield that I need against all the other things
of life. Comparison is one of the most dangerous things
in the world. And this breeds massive comparison, and it
will take you away from your goal faster than anything
that you can experience. Because we look and we see
I mean, if I was on the outside looking at
your success, if I didn't have any spiritual but I'd
(22:43):
be going, oh my gosh, if she can do it,
I don't know if I can do it. What in
the reality is if Lindsay Elmore can do it, so
can I?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah? For sure, if I can do it, anyone can
do it. It just you know it. It just took
for me. It really took tapping into what do I
really love? And I love to teach. I love to teach.
(23:11):
And the reason that I started this podcast was because
I had taught and taught and taught and taught, and
eventually I was like, there's got to be a lot
of people who have taught a lot of things that
I have not, and I get to learn from people
and show up. And I love this podcast because I
(23:33):
get to connect the dots between Like, if you like
this show, listen to that show. If you like this show,
listen to that show. Because you know, today is all
about self development and how do we turn ourselves inwards
so that we can be successful. Other shows are all about,
you know, disease states and how do we heal them,
(23:53):
And other shows are all about the history of pharmaceuticals
and how you know things have gone to rye in
the way that we deliver medicine. All of those things
are meaningful to me when you get out of your
own way and stop living in that hostile environment, stop
(24:17):
living in the negativity, and truly believe that you deserve greatness.
That to me is faith, it is spirituality, and our bodies,
in my opinion, are intended to heal and it. I
also say, like, you can't just believe you deserve to
be healthy. You have to be willing to take action
(24:40):
to make yourself healthy. And on this show, that action
can be food, it can be exercised, it can be
detos of your home, it can be political activism to
change the systems. All of those are what I love
to talk to people about because I truly think the
body is intended to be in a state of health
(25:03):
if we'll simply get out of our own our own way,
this hostility versus kind of positivity. I remember one time
I was playing I was playing bingo, and it wasn't
just average bingo, it was it was for personal development
and growth. And one of the questions that they asked
(25:26):
is when you go into a room, do you assume
that everything is going to be great, or do you
assume that things can go completely sideways? And me I
was like, well, I'm just you know, everything's gonna be great,
things are gonna go well, and they were like, no,
(25:47):
wrong answer, things are gonna go sideways. And I just
thought that is an interesting way of thinking about things,
because on the one hand, if you're kind of polyana
about it and you just go in and you're like,
I'm gonna make a million dollars this year and it's
just gonna happen, and then on the other hand, if
(26:10):
you go things might go sideways. In my plans, I
don't want to think everything's gonna go wrong, but things
go wrong. How do you teach people to create that
balance between optimism and healthy skepticism.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean, look, failure is part of the day process.
And the hard thing is is that we're wired in
a world where we say a lot of stupid stuff
to ourselves. And Jenny, it was Trevor Moob that actually said,
don't say stupid stuff. You use those words, but he
don't say it, and it's difficult because we're trained to.
(26:50):
I was in an interview with somebody and this is
going to reference this and this. This guy just built
a beautiful home in Texas. I said, how want it
take you to build the homie said just over two years? Cool.
I said, how long would it take you to burn
the dang thing down? And he said about forty five minutes.
And I said, yeah, well that's what you're doing every
dang day, dude. You're waking up and you're burning down
what you spend years in development work and you're burning
(27:13):
it down. And so the balance between that, or maybe
balance is even the right word. Maybe the harmony between
that is to develop the awareness to study repetition and processes,
to get the confidence to go, wait a minute, self,
you're on the wrong side of the fence here today,
(27:33):
and I need you to stop and to have that
ability to stop yourself. To me, that's the essence of
personal development and or developing self. It's emotional control, because
if the emotional involvement of our wants is desire, wants
don't have to be tied to everything we like. Wants
(27:55):
could be tied to be what we don't like because
we're so emotionally addicted to well, it's just not gonna
work out. So you can't just be positive. You can't
just self medica and go, well everything's gonna be perfect,
then it's gonna be fine. No, the wheels are gonna
come off the bus on the way to success. Because
if we truly deserve, like you said, health or financial prosperity,
(28:16):
the price that we have to pay isn't the physical
as much as it is the emotional part. Between the
six inches of our ears and our emotional control. Our
personal inside development mandates that the law of compensation in
all areas that we seek compensates. It's by law. I mean,
(28:36):
I don't make that up. And for instance, like somebody
said to me, how do I get to where I'm
more positive? Well, you've got to use the mother of learning.
You've got to do the work right. I mean, if
I wanted to lose thirty more pounds today, I know
that there's just simple science behind learning. You know, less, eating, more, exercise,
better sleep and etc. EXCEPTERA, the nights supplements and all
(28:58):
the things. And then in time, my body you will
do exactly what it's to your point, it's designed to do. However,
I can't just say that I deserve it. I believe
we all deserve it because we're created in an image
of one of the greatest creators in the entire universe,
and so we have to qualify for it. So the
(29:18):
mother of learning is repetition, and anything we're going to
get good at we have to do in time and
repetition and practice and determination is actually the thing that
builds our confidence.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Well, it's interesting that you would bring up repetition because
we also, you know, I really want to talk about
it's really easy to learn skills or to find this
awareness and turn it into doing, and it lasts for
like a month, and then all of a sudden, you're like,
(29:52):
I'm tired of waking up forty five minutes earlier so
that I can read and journal and listen to a
fifteen minute long podcast. How do you keep people in
that mindset of like I am going to retain this,
I am going to apply it, and it is going
(30:13):
to become a lifestyle and not something that I do
for the sake of doing.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
That's a perfect question. I first of all, for me
and my attention span, this is just for me. It's
not that easy for me to sit here for forty
five minutes like I just I'm just it's just me,
and so I've implemented this into my life. So I
like to either walk or beyond the treadmill first thing
in the morning. It's just what I do. So in
(30:40):
goes the earbuds. I do my audio stuff while I'm walking,
or while I'm on the treadmill, or when I'm in
my mobile university my car. Right my writing stuff takes
about fifteen to twenty minutes. I use a process. I
use gratitude. There's just some things I do to make
sure that I'm in the frequency. Everybody that's studied understands
that there's just simple to it. But throughout my day,
(31:04):
I'm constantly just implementing it into my life and through repetition.
By the way, the power of repetition, when you understand
the principle behind of it, it generates memory. There's there's
like neurological pathways like start to switch. And when neurological
pathways switch, and you're you're you're you're attempting to build
a new skill or desire or a new behavior. If
(31:27):
you'll just use repetition as a prescribed opportunity, what you're
really telling your subconscious minding or your brain. If you
want to say it this way too. On the physical side,
this is important, but I'm just gonna do it with ease.
I study and I do things at a relaxed state.
I'm never critical of myself because if I sit down here,
pull out my notebook and all my books and I
(31:48):
just check boxes, I might as well just watch TV
because if you just check boxes, you're just building more resistance.
Repetition moves learning from short term into long term memory too.
It moves it. There's science behind all this. It builds confidence,
it creates mastery. We've talked about that. It creates mastery,
(32:10):
and then mostly it just conditions you. So how do
I get the person to do it? It takes patience
and time. But what I truly believe, Lindsay, is that
you just integrated into your life. I've had people, literally clients,
say I've got kids, I gotta get kids to school,
I got my husband all these things. I went and
(32:31):
bought a shower speaker. Does that count? I'm like, yes,
because you're in the dang shower every day anyways. Yes,
just give yourself enough time for self care and don't
be so rigid about it. Yes, having a dedicated times important,
and yes, it breeds consistency, but in the beginning, until
there's a massive desire because you become hungry, because you
(32:54):
start to see results just integrated into your life in
a simple way.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
I'd love to know some of your favorite resources. What
are the podcasts that you listen to, What are some
of your favorite books that you keep going back to
over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Yeah, of course I'm gonna admire that guy. I like
add my lead I just because he's strong, and I
like all that stuff. There's a ton of them out there,
and I'm mostly though more I'm not as much a
podcast guy as I am a repetition guy with audios,
and so I like the old stuff. Like I'm a
(33:36):
huge fan of audio books. Like for me, I love
to listen to audio books, doesn't matter what book it is.
I'm a big audiobook person because I can put it
on one time speed or two time speed, and I
can just go over and over and over and over
and over, and then I find myself repeating this stuff.
But some of my favorite books are I mean, this
(33:57):
book here is impeccable. I've wore it out. I mean
it's falling apart.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
It is those of you that aren't watching that book. Literally,
the binding just came completely off of that book.
Speaker 1 (34:09):
You Squared by Price Pritchett. Because it's easy. It's like
thirty five pages, and it's simple, and it's a little short,
two paragraph chapters, three paragraph chapters, and I love You
Squared because it teaches that essence of high frequency quantum
leaping and it's so profound. I'm a massive fan of
Wallace WADA's work. The science are getting rich. It's deep.
(34:29):
Pick something to study it for the next six months
or a year. Don't go get a whole bunch of stuff,
don't gather knowledge. Pick something that's amazing. Pick one audio
and use it for three or four, five weeks or
six weeks, and get really good at mastering something. I
teach an entrepreneurial group and I meet with them every Wednesday.
And today we wrapped up a study and I said,
(34:50):
now there's seven principles that were taught over the last
four months. None of you can master seven. Pick one,
and I want you to send me a message of
one principle now that we're going to start a new study.
That new study has to help you master that principle.
Just get really good science, are getting rich, you know,
stop worrying and start living. I could go all the way.
(35:12):
I'm looking at all my all my read list here
and I and I'm a I mean I'm a traveler,
mo Ab and doctor Mall mactual Malt Psycho Cybernetics up
Nobody's if you haven't read that book, it's a lot
of the coolest identity books on the planet. Napoleon Hill
is I'm super connected in Napoleon Hill and all of
his work because of Bob Procter. I would just say
(35:33):
this that our our influence, lindsay, is preceded by our
frequency and the influence we have in the marketplace and
the things that we do. We're not We shouldn't study
anything just to study. We should study to understand that
what we are studying are actual mechanisms for change. They're
(35:53):
not books. They're mechanisms. There's processes and systems, and we're
really not studying to read. We're studying to remember to
remember who we really are. That's what people buy. People
don't buy fancy hairs and fancy cars and all the
(36:15):
stuff that the industry promotes. They buy authentic, real things.
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I'd love that's it. Authentic and real is what people want.
They want the messy. My friend and I were talking
the other day and he sent me. He sent me,
you can't like her, and it's this, you know, just
a sketch of a pretty girl in a nice little
dress until you love. And then he sends me a
(36:44):
picture of pig Pen from Charlie Brown. You know, until
you love your messy, you can't quite get at the pretty.
And I think people like that authenticity that comes from it.
We're quickly running out of time, but we've talked so
much about truth today. How do you train people to
(37:09):
craft their discernment.
Speaker 1 (37:14):
One to another podcast? Discernment is driven from intuitive gifts
in my in my learning experience. Now, there's probably a
lot that we could go into. I can publicly state this,
I know you because I know me, and my discernment
(37:37):
and my capacity to understand the person I'm speaking to
stems from the dedication and the failure of dedication repeated
over and over and over, of developing myself until I
know who I am. I I like my messy and
I really like my put togetherness. I like them both,
(37:58):
and I can and and and studying self is the
key to developing intuitive intuitive gifts intuition and discernment. Discernment
has a meaning of judgment in the case of learning
how to discern, it's our ability to trust our own
thoughts and perceptions and be able to decide is it danger?
(38:23):
Is it not danger. The challenge with most humans is
that they translate and they discern something that's not well,
it's not working. I've been in this business three years
and it's not working, so it can't be for me.
M so or I prayed about it, and I don't. No,
you're praying every day. It's just that you're not on
(38:44):
your knees verbally pray and I'm not. I'm for prayer.
It's my it's my faith. But discernment comes from intuitive
gifts and they have to be developed. Now, we have
a natural thing. Women in my personal experience are natural
at it if they'll give themselves permission. Because you're maternal, right,
you're instinctal, there's that higher level of sixth sense, all
(39:06):
that stuff that comes in the feminine creative energy that
comes in a female. We have to work a little
bit harder at it on the male side because we're
more mascular. Iys is going to pound the nail and
and but but I will tell you this discernment comes
from developing understanding. M I know you because I know me,
(39:29):
And Bob would say that built the outside tells me
so much about what's going on the inside. And if
we learn to understand that the word trust is really
you have to be really careful with the word trust.
I can't ever trust Lindsay. I have to trust me.
I trust me. I will know if Lindsay is an
(39:51):
amazing person or not. Yeah, I we'll know if I'm
supposed to drive my car off the cliff or not.
I can just yet, you don't ever do that. I
will know if I'm socesed to call this person or not.
And when you practice discernment and you practice your intuition,
you'll start to see that it too, is a mastery process.
(40:14):
I'm super confident in my intuition and my discernment. I'm
very confident. I want to be better. And so that's honestly,
if I summed up everything that we've talked about today,
it's why this book is so we're out. I want
to know more about me so that I can be
better for you. And the more I know me, the
better I will know you, and then I'll know how
(40:35):
to help you. I can discern immediately how to serve
and help you.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. My not to get not
to get to Christian on this podcast, but you know
it is both of our our faiths. And my friend
and I were debating the other day about what is sin,
because you know, there's there's a lot of different interpretations.
(41:00):
Every church has a different interpretation. Some are very strict,
some are more loose, and she and I ultimately said,
what if sin is if you know intuitively in your
gut that God's spirit, whatever you want to call it,
is saying this is the truth, this is the way,
(41:23):
this is how you go, this is the next right step,
this is how you stay calm in this decision, and
you ignore it. That to me is the ultimate denial
of self, which makes you inauthentic and to your point,
makes you less relatable to other people.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
Yeah, you know, James Allen, y'all want to grab something amazing.
In fact, i'd promote this here in the last chapter
of the book called as a Man Think if there's
a chapter called Serenity, and I would highly promote that
you'd just google it, print it off, and study that document,
because he says in there to your point, it's like
(42:05):
the third paragraph that the calm man or the calm woman,
having learned to govern themselves, know how to adapt themselves
to others, and they then in turn reverence their spiritual
strength and feel that they can learn from them and
rely upon them. It's our duty, it's our responsibility to
(42:26):
develop discernment from the inside and to become men and
women who can be used. And I think the word
sins again, there's lots of lots of ideas around that,
but you nailed it. One of the major pieces of
sin is not honoring are the real purpose of why
we're alive and what we're intended to do, and denying
(42:50):
that power and that self doubt and all the things
that come with life and trauma and all those things.
But there's a solution. I'm the problem. There's also I'm
part of the solution when I adopt that without emotion,
I'm given and granted would be a better word. I'm
granted the power as long as I start acting and
doing and striving in the right energy to become the
(43:13):
man or the woman who can have that internal flamed
thing that's telling us it's ours without hesitation. If I
was asked what my goal was on the street, financially,
I can tell you in two seconds, and I don't
doubt it. I don't know how, but I don't doubt
it because I know that by doubt, just by just
that feeling, I am conveying a message to the world
(43:35):
and to the very God that created me that I
don't trust him. So I just have to be bold
and confident. I don't have to know how, I just
have to know why, and I will develop myself to
be that person. And that's a statement to impress upon
each of us. We're not it's not a coincidence that
(43:55):
we can feel more or designed for more, but the
more could be better, and if we could just do better,
better is better, and we could leave more along for
a while until we understand ourselves enough to go deeper.
If we're just better, just better, if nothing else, be better,
(44:16):
so that you can have trust in yourself to walk forward.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Bill Banta, this has been absolutely a phenomenal conversation. I
have loved things that we have covered about how faith
is principle and action, how we can turn our awareness
into doing how we can turn a massive effort into
just doing the good every single day while being calm
(44:43):
and slowing down can actually help us to pick up speed.
I have loved this conversation so much. Thank you for
coming in and being a guest on the Lindsay Elmore Show.
Speaker 1 (44:56):
My Pleasure anytime, Step Still
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