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July 4, 2025 64 mins

This episode features Chris Lusby, the founder of Lusby Law in Wilson, North Carolina, who shares his unconventional journey from being a police detective and restaurateur to running a successful law firm. Chris provides a candid look at the challenges of hiring and retaining talent in a "legal desert," detailing the evolution of his strategy from hiring recent grads to taking a chance on an experienced professional with no litigation background. He discusses his firm's focus on family law, his hands-on approach to creating a partner track, and why he embraces a value-based, flat-fee billing model. A true early adopter, Chris offers a deep dive into his tech stack, explaining how he uses tools like Spellbook, Westlaw Precision, and AI transcription to boost efficiency, improve client management, and stay ahead of the curve.


Show Notes:
(1:25) The Revolving Door: Challenges with attorney retention and having employees leave to become Sheriff and DA.
(3:50) A New Hiring Strategy: Focusing on community connection and "hunger" over direct experience to find long-term talent.
(4:15) Practicing in a "Legal Desert": The unique challenges and opportunities of opening a new firm in an underserved area.
(9:15) The Big Risk: Hiring an attorney with zero litigation experience based on mentality and teachability.
(12:39) Reevaluating the Compensation Model: Moving from "eat what you kill" to a competitive salary plus commission structure.
(16:07) Designing a Transparent Partner Track: The benchmarks and emotional investment required for partnership at his firm.
(24:08) A New Kind of Lawyer: Why clashing with tech-resistant culture at a traditional firm drove him to start his own practice.
(26:18) The Power of Resilience: How a failed restaurant venture prepared him for the risks of launching a law firm.
(32:19) The E-Filing Revolution: An inside look at the legal profession's resistance to new technology.
(35:28) Tech Stack Breakdown: The pros and cons of Practice Panther, Zola Suite, and the pains of software integration.
(44:02) Why Every Call is Recorded: Using AI transcription and recordings for CYA and effective client management.
(47:12) Inside the AI Toolkit: Practical uses for Spellbook, Westlaw Precision, Grammarly, and You.com.
(53:51) The Future of Law: Predicting that law firms that don't adopt AI will be obsolete within 15 years.
(58:07) Beyond the Billable Hour: How to implement a value-based, mixed-retainer billing model.


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