Ep. 321 - How to Practically Glorify God in Your Life

Ray, E.Z., Mark, and Oscar dive into what it truly means to glorify the Lord. We were created in His image to reflect His glory, and when we experience His creation, we reflect that back to Him. Through the gospel, God brings us together to glorify Him. The most loving thing He can do is reveal Himself to His creation and invite them into a relationship with Him. Our greatest need is to know God. Much like a baby crying for milk from its mother, our souls cry out for God, and only He knows what we truly need. We are designed to seek something greater than ourselves.

Every moment can be a worshipful moment. Like looking at a painting brings glory to the painter, the heavens declare God’s glory. Everyone inherently knows God exists, and to limit Him is sin. God makes it clear He doesn’t share His glory. Humanity is not meant to take glory, and when we do, it’s repulsive. God’s glory extends to every area of life—work, relationships, everything. When we are humble, we realize how often our hearts wander.

The Lord provides all things, and work is an opportunity to glorify Him, not just to meet our needs. We must remember everything comes from God, and ungratefulness is sin. As believers we should worship God for even the smallest of blessings. Humility is key to repentance; we don’t have to be strong in our own strength. Repentance glorifies God because it acknowledges the possibility of change through Jesus’ sacrifice. God commands all men everywhere to repent, for He will judge the world. Repentance glorifies God because it acknowledges His ability to change hearts. Though many fear repentance, it is a return to being God’s child—a gift He offers to His children. God is also glorified by Christians calling others to repentance.

His glory penetrates every aspect of life, yet we cannot fully live in it. Moses was sheltered in the rock as God’s glory passed by—something so profound no man could have imagined it. To disciple children to see God’s glory, first, you must crave God yourself and make much of Him before them. Glorify God by seeking, proclaiming, and obeying His word. As you fall more in love with God, you’ll do things you wouldn't otherwise. Understanding that we can glorify God in weakness is transformative.

In all things, we should want God to be glorified. This changes why we do what we do. When we embrace God’s glory, we overflow with joy. By nature, we evangelize about what brings us joy. Glorifying God means making much of Him. We need to stop trying to impress people and remember that our purpose is to glorify the Lord.

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Oscar Navarro

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Friends, listen, here's why repentance radically
glorifies God.
Again, we always go back to theroots.
It's easy to just look atwhat's on the surface level.
Go back to the root.
Why does that glorify God?
Well, when someone is repenting, what they're implying is that
there is room for forgiveness,that there is potential for
change, that there is now thewherewithal to be able to

(00:22):
forsake what you're doing.
Well, how is that made possible?
Through what Jesus did, thefact that Christ died upon the
cross and shed his blood for oursins.
In him.
Now we have redemption throughhis blood, the forgiveness of
sins, we can now repent.
So what are we doing when werepent?
We're lifting Christ up, likeMoses did with the serpent in

(00:44):
the wilderness, so that he coulddraw all men unto himself.
So when you repent, you'relifting Christ up, like Moses
did with the serpent in thewilderness, so that he could
draw all men unto himself.
So when you repent, you'reglorifying God, because you're
saying God, what you did wasvalid, what Christ did on the
cross was a work that carrieswith it significance and it's
real.
And now I'm going to give toyou what you've called me to

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give, and that is my brokennessand my repentance.
And now I'm walking in a waythat's causing what you did to
function in a practical way.
You died and gave your lifeupon that cross and rose again
so that I can have forgivenessof sins.
As I repent, lord, I lift upwhat you did.
I herald in essence, when I'mrepenting, right, oscar, I am

(01:26):
really in essence when I'mrepenting, right Oscar.
I am really, in other words,displaying the gospel Amen.
Let us all stare intently atRay.
Now and here we go.
Happy birthday.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
No, I won't do that.
You won't do that.
Yeah, Thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
You know Frambs, one of the worst things you could
ever do to me besides take allthe taboo from the planet is
sing happy birthday to me.

Speaker 3 (01:57):
Ray, you hate it too.
I hate it too.
Seriously, we've got a lot incommon.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Well, it's weird.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
Well, it's weird.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
You're basically worshipping someone.
You're looking at someone.
Oscar likes that idea.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
It's not even your birthday.
You only have one birthday, andthen everyone sings every year
after that.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I'm not sure you're legally allowed to sing it even.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
Oh, that's right, it's copyright oh wait.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
No, I think that's expired now.
Yeah, because I would alwayswonder why do restaurants have?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
different versions.
Yeah, because they'reskittigings.
We'd seen the short version ofit.
When I worked at a restaurant,all we did was get down on our
knees.
I level with you.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
The short version.
Thank you, Mark.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
For those who haven't caught on, today is Ray's
birthday and Ray, did you gettaller?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Did you look at?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
me, did you wake?

Speaker 2 (02:38):
up a little bit taller this morning.
Yes, I did, you're shrinking.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Oscar.
That's what's happening.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
I had a near-death experience this week.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
Did you?

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Again, yeah it was very, very close.
I drove my car in the parkinglot and I couldn't open the door
.
And I pushed it and I looked upto see why it wouldn't open and
Oscar's face was right in thewindow and I got such a fright.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Oh, that is terrifying.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Almost jumped through the roof, yeah so what I did is
, when he left to go to havelunch with someone, I put a book
on top of his door, closed thedoor closed and put an envelope
at the base of the door so hewould look down as he went to
open the door.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Did it work, did it work, poor Marianne got hit in
the head with the book oh Ray.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
We're going to get by ouremployees.
Ray's done this for years.
To me, I've done it for years.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
But Oscar did get duped because I heard Sue, heard
him say nice, try Ray.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
So, ray, what have you learned in the past 115
years?

Speaker 3 (03:33):
I put it all into a book called 50 Years of Open Air
Preaching Everything I'veLearned.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
It's my legacy.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
It's my last words Love it, open air.
It's my last words, love it,hopefully not Open air.
Yes.

Speaker 1 (03:43):
Yeah, you know, ray, I just realized something for
the first time today.
Remember, not long ago, rachelsaid she finally discovered
after many, many years, that theword ache is right in the
middle of her name R-A-C-H-E.
I don't know.
I just discovered today thatyour name is right there in the
word crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Did you ever notice that?
Yeah, you didn't notice that?
Yeah, it's in the middle ofprayer too, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
More crazy, that works better Crazy, All right
friends.
Oh listen who just confirmedhis own craziness.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Here we are again.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
Ray, but how does it feel to be?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
Just the same I feel the same as the moment I was
born, I feel exactly the same asthat Same size too Some things
never change.
Oh, that's funny I used to getchanged a lot by my mom.
Yes, diapers, you're acceptinggifts for your birthday.
Oh yeah, post birthday giftsAnytime.
Just park in the parking lot.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Park there, put him in the hangar.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
He's registered at Wells.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Fargo.
Yeah, how hard was it to turnthat carpet into a t-shirt.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
Isn't it nice?
Oh, you're talking aboutfashion, oscar.
Let's not get going on that, Ihave no problem.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Nice jacket.
Do they make them for men?

Speaker 1 (04:55):
They do yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah really good, they were you know, it's true, I
went to a department store withmy wife, laura, and I was
trying on different things.
She brought me something and Iput it on.
I go, this is like really tightand the sales clerk's looking
in at it and just like that's awoman's.

Speaker 3 (05:17):
This is California man.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
That's a story of Ray's life.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
Is that what they said to you?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Just keep it quiet.
No, I came to that realizationon my own.
Ray still shops that gap forkids.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
She laughed.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
I go in there to stand in the gap.
You know that.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
All right time for a cool, classy comment.
My name is Emily and I've beenlistening to the podcast for a
couple of years.
I've had a lot of trying.
Things happen in that period oftime, much of them because of
my own lack of wisdom, but Godhas been faithful to continually
turn me back to the truth ofhis word.
Any sin in my life isultimately because I lack the
faith to trust God's promises.

(05:51):
Wow, that's insightful, isn't it?
But faith comes by hearing, andhearing by the word of God.
Learning to better saturate mymind with the truth of God's
word has helped me immensely inmy seeking after personal
holiness, and listening to y'allon my car rides to work has
helped me keep my mind on whatis true through those 40 minutes
every day about to get longer.

(06:13):
Ray, I love your passion forknowing and understanding who
God is in order to understandour state as sinners in need of
the grace of a holy God.
I have to remind myself of thatand preach the truth of the
gospel to myself every day.
Mark, you've got some of themost insightful one-liners I've
ever heard from one person,although a lot of times it's
something someone once said.
It's an encouragement to seekwisdom from others God has

(06:39):
placed in our lives.
I love the one about gettingthe truth into ourselves every
day, because we are going to belied to all day long.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
That's R Ken Hughes.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah, as I have found that to be a big struggle for
me.
Oscar, I love your analogiesand ways of looking at things
I've never thought of before.
I've even begun trying blackcoffee, thinking well, if Oscar
can taste it, I probably can too, and I have actually been
enjoying it, let's go.
But don't worry, easy, I stilllike my cream in it sometimes
Good and Easy.

(07:07):
Amidst all the crazy voiceswheezing and strange singing,
I'm encouraged by your love forthe Lord and your desire to
encourage others how to fightagainst sin and pursue
righteousness.
I'm also encouraged byrealizing I'm not the only one
who's a little crazy sometimes.
Thank you, guys, for what youdo.
Keep doing it and keep youreyes ever on Jesus, the author
and perfecter of our faith.
God bless y'all.

(07:27):
Emily Janowiak.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Janowiak, sorry, j-a-n-o-w-i-a-k.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
I had to read your name by Neil Swain.
I know Every time I know it's asyndrome.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Thank you, emily, very encouraging and a huge
blessing.
Amen, thank you.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Birthday boy were you going to say something.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Birthday boy, you grabbed the microphone.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
I wasn't listening.
Oh no, Scotty told me I got tograb the microphone regularly,
so I just did that.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
Ah, my man.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
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Quick, quick, red-o, pronto,red-o, red-o, rojo, rojo Is it?
Rojo, says our in-house Mexicanfriend.
It's in Spanish, the book too,by the way, rojo Is it.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Yeah, Jesus is Red is actually in two quotes as well.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Oh, it is.
Jesus is Red is in two quotes.
So wait, you have a book thatactually has a word red and
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that's right.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Is it written in a New?

Speaker 2 (08:24):
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Yeah, of course, the whole book is written in a New
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Speaker 1 (08:29):
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Speaker 3 (08:32):
What?
What's the book?
What's the book about?
It's about all the words Jesussaid.
All the words Jesus saidwithout surrounding verses.
Like Jesus said to Nicodemusyou must be born again.
It just goes straight and youmust be born again.
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Can you ever?

Speaker 1 (08:47):
get a Bible where the words of Jesus aren't like
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Speaker 3 (08:51):
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Speaker 1 (08:55):
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That's where Ray's voice isgoing.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
in a few years he can see us and a whole bunch of
other great things like us andmore of me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
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Speaker 3 (09:36):
Can you say friends properly?

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Friends.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
That's just not right , is it?
That's pathetic, hey friends.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Can you imagine, hey friends.
No, it's not good.
Hey friends, Easy, you are heyfriends.
No, it's not good, hey friends.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Easy.
You are the reason why thefast-forward button exists, I
agree with that.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
Is that original?

Speaker 2 (09:51):
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Yeah, it's not that deep, but Iappreciate that?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
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Speaker 1 (10:03):
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and their children, ava and Ian,and Jesse and Owen.
Let's welcome them.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
Round of applause.
Round of applause.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
I got to Thanks guys Blessed to have you.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Yeah, thank you.
I got to hang out with Doug ata high school retreat and one of
my favorite moments is thatDoug volunteered himself to play
a basketball game with me andhe was like I'm warning you,
I've never played basketball.
It must have been the greatest.
I wish there was a videorecording because Doug could not
miss, but he was like shockedat himself.
No, no, no, he didn't school me, did he post-prod.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Like the pride man yeah yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
But he was so amazed Every time he threw up what
looked like a clanker, it wouldgo in and he was like this is
amazing he couldn't be stopped.

Speaker 1 (10:50):
It was one of my favorite moments.
I would have loved for Doug todunk on you, Oscar.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
Yeah, well, he didn't .
We'll arrange it.
I think we're on the same team.
We'll arrange it.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
All right friends.
Enough of that.
Today we are talking about howto practically glorify God in
your life.
I was struck recently oh, good.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
By who Finally Lightning?
What was her name?
I should?

Speaker 1 (11:13):
know that's gonna happen.
I should know by now.
I was struck recently bylightning.
What was her name?

Speaker 3 (11:21):
Good, See what I have to put up with Doug and friends
, yeah suffering Recently, namegood, see what I have to put up
with doug and friends.
Yeah, suffering um recently.
Oh man, I wonder who inventeduh.
Seriously, um is just sopopular um, um yeah, carry on
easy.
You remember you lost yourtrain of thought, but look, mark
is ready.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
You were struck by someone.
Yeah, anyway, somethinghappened recently, um, where I
started to realize how so littlewe really think about
glorifying God.
In fact, I would venture to saythat one of the biggest sins we
commit as believers is notthinking proactively on how we

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can live for the glory of God.
Mark, you remember theWestminster Confession, what it
says on that Chief end of man isto glorify.

Speaker 4 (12:08):
God and enjoy Him forever.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Amen Forever.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Amen, amen Forever.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
Amen, amen, amen, forever, amen, amen, forever
Forever.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Amen.
One day, ray, we're going to doa marathon on that, but yeah,
living for the glory of God.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all
to the glory of God Brother.
Lawrence inside of his book.
Very kind of mystical if youwould.
But he said I turn the cake inthe pan to the glory of God.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
Wow, right it's every little detail.
It sounds like a good thing todo actually.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
One thing that I actually really enjoy doing is
giving.
I do enjoy, and I enjoy eating,thanking God for things that
perhaps he's never heard.
Thank you for.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Oh, you're stealing my thunder.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Am I now?
Yeah, just the idea of comingacross a wildflower, right as
you're on a hike, as you're on awalk you know Oscar's hair,
whatever it may be right, justthanking God for something that
he's never heard thank you for,because I want to be a thankful
person as I trek through thisthing called life.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
For the record Mark at 40,.
I thank God for my hair everyday.
How could you?

Speaker 3 (13:20):
get Mark and Ray confused.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
I apologize.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yes.
So anyway, mark stole mythunder because just the other
day I said to a guy I justwitnessed to him and he's very
open with the gospel I said doyou ever think about your
eyelash?
He said what are you talkingabout?
Have you ever thought about aneyelash?
He said no.
I said do you ever think aboutit?
The moment you were conceived,the DNA in you programmed you to
grow an eyelash at a certaindirection and stop at a certain

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length, with a certain function,because it's got a sensitivity
to it.
So if anything gets near youreye, you automatically blink
because your eyelash is doingits duty.
And that eyelash that you don'teven think about flashes before
your eyes probably 10,000 timesa day, millions of times each
year.
You don't even think about theone that made it and it brings
glory to God, wow.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
Romans 1 says that they're a thankless people.
Yeah, you know, boy, I don't.
That's not me.
I don't want that to be me.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Ray, that's a brilliant Ah Eyelash plucking.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Say thank you.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
People don't pluck their eyelashes, they pluck
their eyebrows.
But you know, ray, I love thatthought.
You know it's the whole imageor item becoming a piece of
furniture and that you don'teven notice it anymore.
It's like the painting on thewall that you just you don't
even think about the detailsthat it relates to and I've
never thought about it.

(14:38):
Your eyelashes are reallyconstantly in the periphery,
seen by your eyes, in a sense,all the time.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
And it brings the lids down to wash your eyes and
the glands are working to keepit moisturized.
Think of giraffes.
They have huge eyelashes thathit people from five feet away
almost.
They're that big and so they'rebeautiful.
And women put stuff on theireyelashes.
I thought it was just somethingthat was ornamental until I
studied it, and it's got apurpose.
That eyelash has got a purpose.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, no, women are extending their eyelashes too.
Now, Oscar, what does it meanto glorify God?
Let's get into the definition.

Speaker 4 (15:14):
That's a really good starting place because you guys
are touching on One.
When we talk about words likeglory and holy, it's easy for us
to oversimplify.
Especially as preachers youwant to oversimplify.
Especially as preachers, youwant to oversimplify to make it
memorable, to make it applicableas quickly as possible.
But as you start getting intothe nuance of what these things
mean, it's important torecognize the beauty and the

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complexity of it.
And so we've already talkedabout one aspect of glorifying
God, which is to thank Him inall that.
We do say experience.
I love CS Lewis's quote tofollow the sunbeam back up to
the sun.
That's a form of glorifying God.
Another form of glorifying Godthat you'll often hear is to act

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like Him, to reflect Hischaracteristics, and that's true
too.
One theologian talked about theglory of God.
Often what you'll hear in thesedefinitions is the idea of
imaging or the word reflecting,and that's key reflecting.
And so the way one theologianhas talked about it is to
glorify God, is to recognizethat we are created in His image

(16:20):
and that when, like mirrors,think of us as like a mirror,
and when our mirrors areproperly aligned, the glory of
God is reflected from him to usand then off of us into the
world around us.
People experience the glory ofGod through us glorifying God

(16:42):
and yet in another way, alsolike mirrors.
When we experience the worldaround us eating great food,
raising children, wild flowerswhat we're doing is we are
experiencing his creation and weare thankfully, we are in
thanks taking that reflectionand reflecting his creation back

(17:03):
to him.
And so to glorify God is to belike a mirror, reflecting His
holiness and goodness.
And then, just real quick, toadd to that, if you think about
the fall, we are like mirrorsthat have broken and now we are
shattered pieces of glass thatreflect the lowercase g glory of

(17:24):
whatever earthly thing passesus by and through the gospel,
god puts us back together toreflect his glory.

Speaker 3 (17:33):
That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
That's amazing when you think about that and you
think about the fact, mark, thatpeople who don't know the Lord
will often charge God with thissort of egocentricity and that
he wants glory for Himself.
But I think, after definingwhat glorifying God is, why is

(17:57):
it right that God wants all theglory?

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Yeah, and you put it this way right.
An objection even goes further,and we've talked a little bit
about this in the past that Godis a jealous God.
How can he be so jealous, sopity, that he would create man
to worship Him, and if theydon't worship Him, he's going to
send them to hell forever.
But you think about?
The most loving thing that Godcan do is to command and invite

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a worship from His creation,because what man needs and longs
for more than anything is toknow their Creator, and so the
most loving thing God can do isto reveal Himself to His
creation and invite them,command them into a relationship
with them.
It would almost be cruel forGod to not point people to their

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greatest need, and theirgreatest need is God himself.
So that invitation is more of adeclaration than an invitation
saying come and behold a God whoknows all about you and isn't
going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (19:00):
You know it's like a mother offering her new baby
milk.
No one looks at that mother andis like that's selfish of you.
No that mother is offering.
The baby is crying and themother knows what the baby needs
.
Your soul is crying out for Godand he knows what you need.
You need his glory, which iswhy the question that you asked
earlier to glorify God and enjoyhim forever.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
Piper put it this way every man that visits a brothel
is secretly seeking after God,but he doesn't know it.
Right, because he has beenbirthed inside of his DNA, that
deoxyribonucleic acid, withintheir very being, to seek after
God, something greater, someonegreater than themselves.
Right, nobody goes to the GrandCanyon to feel better about
themselves.
Right?

(19:48):
We go to the Grand Canyonbecause we know that there is
something greater than ourselves.
And I remember I was at LakeShasta on a houseboat with some
friends and my family at onetime and I was looking at these
trees.

Speaker 4 (19:59):
The helicopter dropped you off.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
The helicopter dropped me off and, as I was on
this houseboat, I was just inthis place of worship and my
brother's friend, who was anatheist his name was Steve he
came alongside and he goes whatare you smiling at?
And I said what do you see whenyou look out into the horizon?
He said I see trees.
And I said, yeah, I see treesclapping their hands at the God

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who made them.
There's the difference, there'sthis chasm between us and the
rest of the world, becauseeverything we see reflects back
to God and it puts us in a placeof worship.
Live every moment as aworshipful moment.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Ray, is it accurate to say that if man is not
seeking to glorify God, he is,by default, seeking to glorify
himself?

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah, the whole thing about worship being the right
thing to do could be illustratedvery inaptly by looking at a
painting and giving glory to thepainter it's the right thing to
do.
You don't leverage glory on thepainting.
It's the painter's skill thatput it there.
And the Bible says the heavensdeclare the glory of God.
When we broke away from thatother country many years ago, it
was a declaration, it wasn't asuggestion Declaration.

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We're independent, take it orleave it, we're out of here and
the heavens declare the glory ofGod.
There's no argument.
When we look at the beautifulsunrise, sunset, the stars, the
sun, all those things,especially those big fat, puffy
white clouds, they blow me away.
So many times I've stopped mybike and taken pictures of

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clouds.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
How much do they weigh, Ray?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yes, they weigh hundreds of thousands of tons,
believe it or not, becausethey're filled with water.
If you take your bucket to washyour car out every week or so
every year, it's very heavy abucket of water.
Well, there's hundreds ofthousands of tons of water
sitting in those clouds, likethey were lighter than a feather
, and they drop when God wantsthem to drop, so they water the

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earth.
That is seriously one of thebiggest mysteries it really is
and it's just part of thedeclaration of God's glory.
So everybody knows God exists.
Every atheist knows God exists.
The moment he looks at theheavens, they declare his glory.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
Can I comment on that real quick, my son.
Ethan sent this to me earliertoday.
We were talking about it overbreakfast and then he said in
reference to God, and it's thislisten, if we limit God to this,
it's blasphemous because he'sso much greater in grandeur than
as we try to understand.
It's anthropomorphic in termsof us trying to understand the

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character and the creation ofGod.
But he said this is what hesent me.
He flung the stars into the skylike sparks from a bonfire,
each one ignited by the sheerforce of his will.
He breathes and galaxies spiralinto motion.
He whispers and mountains risefrom the deep.
When he steps, the earth quakes, not because it must, but

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because it cannot help butrespond to his presence.
He sneezes and volcanoes erupt.
He blinks and hurricanes churnacross oceans, winds howling in
submission to their maker.
The lightning you see rippingthrough the sky.
That's just his finger tracinga line across the clouds.
He scatters sand across endlessdeserts as if it were nothing

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more than dust from hisworkbench, scraping it away.
The snow on mountaintops.
He piled it there, flake byflake, to crown his creation.
He tells the sun burn here andit obeys blazing with the power
of a billion atomic bombs everysecond.
The wind knows its limitsbecause he set them, the eagle

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soars because he gave it wings,and the leviathan frolics in the
depths because he decided itshould.
Every tree stretches toward himas if it's in worship.
Every atom spins in obedienceto his voice.
The entire universe exists notbecause he willed it into being,
but because he sustains itmoment by moment.
If he withdrew his hand foreven a second, everything,

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everything would collapse intonothingness.
This is not just a God whocreates, this is a God who
reigns.
The cosmos is his throne roomand we are but specks of a dust
on a speck of dust orbiting aball of fire he lit and spins it
on his finger like a basketball, and yet we limit God to this
Blasphemous oh man.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
And even in the midst of it we see that.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
So who wrote?

Speaker 2 (24:24):
that.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Mark, I have no idea, it wasn't a Puritan because it
mentioned basketball.
You've got to send me.
That Isn't that good.
It wasn't a Puritan, that wasamazing.

Speaker 3 (24:32):
You don't know, who wrote it.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
It's one of the most powerful things I've heard,
actually.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
You can send makes it really clear in Isaiah that he
does not share his glory withanother, and I can't think of
anything more insane, morefutile, more in a sense like
spiritually suicidal, than mantrying to rob God of his glory,
trying to take what he's notdesigned to hold.
It's like you know, I've saidit before but it's like a fish
trying to live naturally outsideof water, a man trying to live

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underwater naturally.
You weren't designed for thatand the end result is going to
be like radical, tragic demise.
And when we try to take fromGod what only belongs to Him,
what rightly belongs to Him,we're doing something radically
unnatural and the end result'sgoing to be disastrous.

Speaker 3 (25:27):
And it's repulsive and I know you've heard me speak
of this before.
When you do a good deed as aChristian, you don't want the
glory, you want God to beglorified.
You know you're a good persondoing this.
No, I'm not.
I'm a wretch.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
That's a really good insight, ray.
Yeah, I'm a rich.
That's a really good insight.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
Ray.
Yeah, thank you, mark, that'sreally good.
Did I just say what?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
I was going to say You're letting us into your
heart, ray.

Speaker 1 (25:45):
No no, Thank you oh thank you, you're receiving the
glory, I get the joke you did.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
Wow, hypocrite, I haven't finished God.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
Glory to God, brother .
Yeah, important for us toremember that, that our greatest
good is glorifying the Lord,magnifying Him, and that should
be the end result of every goodthing that we ever do.
Right, let your light so shineamong men that they may see your
good works and glorify yourFather, who is in heaven.

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And Oscar, there is a way to dothat where we draw glory to the
Lord and there's a way to dothat where we draw glory to the
Lord, and there's a way to drawglory to ourselves while
pretending to draw glory to theLord.
We have to be careful of that.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Man.
That's a slippery slope and Imean, I think it's important to
recognize the glory of God nowfalls into all areas of life,
because I think for mostChristians they think oh yeah, I
glorify God.
I go to church on Sunday.
Oh yeah, I glorify God.
I go to church on Sunday.
Oh yeah, I glorify God.
I lift my hands when I worshiphim.
Oh yeah, I glorify God when Iread my Bibles.

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But to your point EZ, to glorifyGod is to see his glory
integrated in every aspect ofyour life, so that when you go
to work, you don't chiefly go towork to pay bills.
You don't chiefly go to work toadvance your kingdom.
You don't chiefly go to work toget the praise of other people.
You don't chiefly go to work togather a following.

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You chiefly go to work for theglory of God.
When you interact with yourfamily, with your wife, with
your children, you don't chieflygo to work to make sure you're
comfortable.
You don't chiefly go to work tomake sure you're comfortable.
You don't chiefly go to work tomake sure they respect you.
You chiefly serve them to theglory of God.
When you understand the call toglorify God and enjoy him
forever, you see every aspect ofyour life start to fold in,

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even the eating of a good fruit,the making of a great table or
the relationship building withina family.
Everything is done for hisglory.
And then, when we're reallyhumble and honest, we realize
how often our hearts are proneto wander, because often we talk

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about sin as the lying and theblasphemy, and absolutely that's
it giving birth to almost death.
But sin starts when we startremoving glory from God, or I
should say, because you can'tactually affect the glory of God
.
What I should say is when youstop recognizing the glory of
God in those little areas ofyour life.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
That's a good point, yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Easy.
Do you remember what you hadshared many years ago about
going to work?
You're not going to work forthe paycheck, you're going to
fulfill the first commandment.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
Yeah, yeah, where I talk about what our purpose in
life should be in every area,because often we look to
different positions that we holdor different roles that we
function in as sources of supplyfor our need.
And when you do that, everythingends up falling apart because
it becomes self-focused, andagain it becomes self-worship

(28:50):
and also self-glorifying, inthat you want to receive all the
praise and all the rewards ofit rather than giving them all
to the Lord.
So, yeah, so instead of goingto work and seeing work as a
source of supply for my need, Ilook to the Lord as the source
of supply for all things, whichglorifies Him.
Right, I mean, when we functionin that way, in a practical

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sense, I'm looking to God as theprovider for all things.
That magnifies Him, it elevatesHim, it highlights Him as a
faithful providing Father wholoves His children.
So, instead of looking to workas a source of supply for my
needs, I look to work as amedium through which I have the
opportunity to glorify God byloving Him with all my heart,

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mind, soul and strength andbeing all that he's called me to
be as an employee and as aservant, and I love people,
thereby glorifying God, bywalking in love, by meeting the
greatest need, throughsacrificial service, that's
great.
And so then what happens whenthe variables kick in right?
Because it may be a great dayat work, it may be a horrible
day.
My pay may get cut, my hoursmay get docked, my boss may be

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mean to me, my coworkers mayslander me and gossip about me.
It's true, it happens here, butif my focus is on loving God
and people glorifying the Lord,then I'm not moved by that,
because I'm not there to getglory for myself.
I'm not there to get my needsmet.
I'm there to give.
Same thing with marriage, samething with ministry, same thing
with the relationships.
People are looking to thingsthat are not meant to be a

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source of supply for their needsand so, therefore, they're not
glorifying the Lord.
But when he's our source andwe're just looking to all these
things as mediums to glorify Himby obedience and by love, oh
man, everything comes together.
So we have to remember that,and we also have to remember

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again why we exist.
You cited it, mark, earlier 1Corinthians, 10, 31,.
Whether you eat or drink orwhatever you do, do all of the
glory of God.
That's why, years ago, right,confett?

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Yeah, I've been asking people like talking about
eating and drinking to theglory of God, what's your
favorite food?
I've got a lot of people tellme their favorite food.
I say do you like eating?
Oh, I love it.
They've got between 2,000 and3,000 taste buds dancing around
doing the disco.
Every time you put somethingneat in.
I say who to?
Do you ever give God thanks foryour food?
And they say, no, wow, do youthink that's right?

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Yeah, everything you've gotcomes from God.
Every delicious thing you puton your tongue comes from God,
because you've got a tongue andyou've got taste buds and you've
got salivary glands you canswallow and you can eat and you
can enjoy looking at good foodand then tasting good food.
And it is a sin to beunthankful and ungrateful, as
the scriptures say in the bookof.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Romans, chapter 3.
You know, I've heard it saidthat the unbeliever doesn't
glorify God or give thanks toGod for the most extraordinary
things, but the believer willfor the most ordinary things.
Oh boy, that's beautiful and,ray, I love what you said
recently just about how you werealmost worshiping the Lord
because of your toast and honeyand whatever you put on it.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
Butter.
Jesus ate honey and butter,butter.
Yes, but I love that I believeit's not butter.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Finding every little thing and saying Lord, thank you
, thank you for what you've done.
I give you glory.
This is you, this is yourcreation, this is your design,
and that's why I'm blown awaythat there are so many atheist
doctors and scientists.
I mean, if there's anyone thatshould be standing back and
glorifying the Lord, it's themand they don't.

(32:17):
It's like Mark, I remember inthe what Is it movie, when you
were talking to that doctorabout abortion and just the way
you said it to him.
You said you're a doctor.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
He said I don't want to talk about these things.
Yeah, I was asking him whendoes life begin?
And he goes I don't want to getinto that.
I go well, listen, we have thelaw and the science of
embryology, of biogenesis.
He says I don't want to getinto these things.
I'm like you're a.

Speaker 4 (32:46):
And every other book on embryology tells us exactly
when life begins just shadowingwhat the Bible has already told
us.
You bring up the fact that it'slike doctors have a first row
seat at how good God's creationis.
That's why there are noatheists working at
Wienerschnitzel, right.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
You know another area , we all die.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
That's why you know, another area where we can
glorify God is in our weakness,because the paradox of the
gospel is that strength and hisstrength comes through our
weakness, and so to glorify Godis to recognize where we are
weak.

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He is made strong.
2 Corinthians 12, 9,.
My grace is sufficient for you,for my power is made strong.
Second, corinthians 12, nine mygrace is sufficient for you,
for my power is made perfect inweakness.
And I think, uh, first off, inour weakness, in our failures,
in the times where we don'tglorify God, he is made strong
through his grace.
Uh, I think, in our weakness,when we recognize that we don't

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have to go out about the worldpridefully, pridefully, that we
don't have to go out about theworld pridefully or arrogantly,
we have the humility to repentand to ask for, to say I'm sorry
.
Why?
Why are so many people afraidof repentance, afraid to
apologize, afraid to sit downand get on one knee and look at
their kids and say I'm sorry, Ishouldn't have gotten, that was
my fault, that wasn't your fault.

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Why?
It's because they think thatthey need to be strong in their
strength.
But actually the greateststrength you can experience is
God's strength in the midst ofyour weakness.

Speaker 1 (34:12):
Oh, that's so good, oscar.
We don't often go there, youknow, because, like we talked
about even with Tim Challies onour last episode, people don't
think about like viewing Godpositively when they're in a
state of weakness.
It's like God.
Why am I going through this?
Why do I feel so weak?
Why don't I have the strengththat I want and that I need?
But the believer can turn hisgaze toward the Lord and say no,

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lord, you're doing somethingthrough this and Excuse me.
And my we should make a shirt.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
Excuse me, Lord I glorify you for the thorn in my
side, Mark Spence.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
But we can look and say, lord, despite what I feel,
what I think, what's happening?
Look, you are working in mylife.
This work you're doing is notpleasant for me, it's not
enjoyable, I don't like it.
But let me pause and go to theroot of what I just said.
You are working in me, you payattention to me, you even know

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that I exist.
I mean, mark, that thing youjust read about being that speck
of dust on it, we can't evenfathom how minuscule we are.
You are doing whatever it is.
You're involved with me, lord.
Even if it were so that God wasgoing to torment me, right,
he's not.
But let's say wow, you're evenacknowledging me.
That's mind-blowing.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
You've reminded me of those motion graphics that came
out many years ago where theyzero on something like an ant or
something on the earth and thenpull back to outer space.

Speaker 1 (35:54):
Yeah, oh, I love those.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
And it just you think oh, that breaks the proportion
of what I am.
I'm an absolute speck, totallyyeah, you are.
Yeah, Thanks, I'm an absolutespik, totally yeah, you are.
Yeah, thanks, you are.
We are More like a dick Verysmall.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Okay, so we glorify God through His creation.
We glorify God through ourweaknesses, Mark.
How do we glorify God through?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
repentance, because repentance is a good thing.
Oscar touched on it lightlyyeah, repentance, as Thomas
Watson said, it flows like ariver.
Right, a repentance is anoverflowed heart, of a forgiven
heart.
Macarthur said that repentanceshould be as loud as our sin
once was.
That repentance is a beautifulword.
It means that God sees you justthe way you are and he loves
you too much to keep you in thatstate.

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And repentance is merely areflection and a response to
what God has already done and isdoing inside of our lives,
right?
So, yeah, repentance is a greatthing.
Right, that Greek word,metanoia, to change your mind,
or, as Bonson said, to thinkGod's thoughts after Him, that
God has called us to respond andwe are just merely responding
to what he has called us to do.

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So repentance, ray.
We get accused of being aworks-based organization because
we call people to repentance,but Jesus did the same thing.
Peter, james, john Jude, theyall did the same thing.
There is a message repent andbelieve the gospel, repent and
believe the gospel.
All the while, we know that Godgrants repentance that leads to

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the truth, but withoutrepentance you will not see a
heaven.
I think it's Luke 13, verse 3and verse 5, it says unless you
repent, you will perish.
You will.
So there's no half-hearteddecisions made for Christ.
Decisions is easy right, we'vetalked about it, ray but it's
that repentance that isdifficulty.

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It's a calling to absolutelyleave the old man behind and
people say, well, I don't knowhow to do that, I don't know
where to begin.
Listen, repentance is simplyturning to God.
That's really what it is.
Repentance is a turning to Godand as you turn to God, you're
leaving behind everything elsewe within our society, we focus
in on.

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Well, I got to stop this, I gotto stop that.
No, turn to God and live as youturn to God.
You are leaving behind anythingand everything.
It just doesn't matter what itis.
But you can only do that byturning towards God.
You can kind of self-will.
This is what AA does, right,you try to hold on to your

(38:24):
higher power right, that's theAutomobile Association, whatever
that is the Automobile.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
Association, triple A .
I say I want you to turn around, turn around, you turn oh boy,
you turn for Christ.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
See what I do.
Jesus said if you love me, youwill keep my commandments right.
I had shared with my kids manytimes.
Right, that the rules of thishouse are not burdensome.
Neither are the commandments ofthe Lord, right.
If you don't want to obey them,you don't need to obey them.
But there's the door right.
Go your way in peace.
I love you as you go your way.
Be doers of the word, nothearers only, so deceiving

(38:56):
yourselves.
So repentance is such a sweetword.
It means that God sees us as afinished work of art and in
order to get there word.
It means that God sees us as afinished work of art and in
order to get there, there's somework that needs to get done in
the process.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Yeah, god now commands all men, everywhere to
repentance.
I love the bold and almostall-encompassing language in
that.
First of all, god commands.
It's not a suggestion, it's notan option, it's a command
that's as forthright as you canget when you're speaking about

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God's indicatives.
He commands all men, that'severybody, everywhere.
Right, it covers every person,every place, and it's something
that is completely indicative ofsomething you must do.
And it's important, mark, tohighlight too.
Yeah, repentance is a change ofmind that can never be divorced

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from the resulting fruit, whichis a change of action.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
They're bedfellows two sides of the same coin.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
And it's very important to remember what comes
after what you said.
God commands all men everywhereto repent.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Why.

Speaker 3 (40:04):
Because he has appointed a day in which he'll
judge the world in righteousness.
And that's often what's missingin many gospel proclamations.
Law without consequence isnothing but good advice, someone
once said.
And you can talk about thecommandments, but if there's no
consequence for breaking them,they're nothing but good advice.
You shall not steal, shall notcommit adultery, shall not lie
that makes a good society.
But there must be the preachingof consequence.

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God's going to have a day ofjudgment.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
And friends, listen, here's why repentance radically
glorifies God.
Again, we always go back to theroots.
It's easy to just look atwhat's on the surface level.
Go back to the root.
Why does that glorify God?
Well, when someone is repenting, what they're implying is that
there is room for forgiveness,that there is potential for
change, that there is now thewherewithal to be able to

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forsake what you're doing.
Well, how is that made possible?
Through what Jesus did, thefact that Christ died upon the
cross and shed his blood for oursins.
In him.
Now we have redemption throughhis blood, the forgiveness of
sins, we can now repent.
So what are we doing when werepent?
We're lifting Christ up, likeMoses did with the serpent in

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the wilderness, so that he coulddraw all men unto himself.
So when you repent, you'reglorifying God because you're
saying God, what you did wasvalid.
What Christ did on the crosswas a work that carries with it
significance and it's real.
And now I'm going to give toyou what you've called me to

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give, and that is my brokennessand my repentance.
And now I'm walking in a waythat's causing what you did to
function in a practical way.
You died and gave your lifeupon that cross and rose again,
so that I can have forgivenessof sins.
As I repent, lord, I lift upwhat you did.
I herald in essence, when I'mrepenting right Oscar, I am

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really, in other words,displaying the gospel.

Speaker 4 (41:59):
Yeah, I think the ghosts in the room that we're
getting at but haven'tidentified is well, you kind of
did which is that so many peopletheir ears shudder at the word
repentance.
So many people don't even wantto use the word repentance
because it's like, ooh, you know, it means something bad, and I
think a lot of times what wehear when someone says
repentance is turn or burn.
But repentance what you guysare getting at.

(42:20):
And you mentioned Thomas Watson.
I've been rereading a lot of hisstuff the Lord's Supper and his
little book on repentance.
It's like 120 pages long, it isso powerful, and in there he
also talks about repentance asthis like homecoming God is
inviting you home.
He's saying come and be my son,come and be my daughter.

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You've been doing life your way, you've been creating chaos and
rebelling against me.
I do not desire to hand youover to your sin.
Come home, turn and come back.
Like the prodigal son, he runsto meet you out there.
And so repentance is thisbeautiful command, this
beautiful promise, this giftthat God gives to His children

(43:06):
that they get to go home.

Speaker 2 (43:07):
As Bonhoeffer said, when God calls a man, he bids
him to come and die.

Speaker 3 (43:12):
You're saying repentance glorifies God.
Psalm 51, verse 4, against youand you only have I sinned and
done this evil in your sight.
That you may be justified inwhat you say.
It shows that God is correct inhis assessment of us as human
beings.
I just absolutely love Spurgeonbecause he nails it so often
God is glorified when we seekand save that which is lost.

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This is what Spurgeon said agreat object of glorifying God
is to be mainly achieved by thewinning of souls.
How amazing, what an incrediblegiant theologian he was.
And he condescended to theirksome task of evangelism.
He said do not close a singlesermon without addressing the
ungodly.
That's Spurgeon.

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How wonderful.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Wow.
So, yeah, we glorify Godthrough repentance ourselves,
but we also glorify God throughcalling people to repentance
through evangelism, and that issomething that I think, as
believers, we don't see asclearly as we should.
And the reason for that repentMark.
Glorify God by repenting ofwounding your elder 75 years old

(44:20):
.
What did you just do I?

Speaker 2 (44:20):
was going to have a bruise.
Yeah, yes, I started.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
I just touched Mark's pad there, what is it?
And then he reached out and gothis finger and went flick with
this great huge finger on theveins on the back of your hand,
which is really painful.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
You know what teachers do in school.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Wrap the knuckles.

Speaker 1 (44:39):
I think I'm going to switch you guys.

Speaker 3 (44:41):
Oh, so I can be next to you oh no no, no, never mind.

Speaker 4 (44:44):
Are you sure you want to do that?
Never mind, something sorry.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
No, I was just.
I don't know what I was goingto say, Sorry.

Speaker 3 (44:51):
No, I was listening anyway, they totally distracted
me.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
That's what I did.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
Isaiah 43 is so interesting and it's something
that we need to talk about too,in regards to God's glory.
It says everyone who was calledby my name, whom I created for
my glory, whom I formed and made.
And then Psalm 8, what ismankind?
That you are mindful to them,Human beings, that you care for

(45:18):
them.
You have made them a littlelower than the angels and
crowned them.
He crowned them with glory andhonor.
That's what Psalm 8 says.
He says he crowns his peoplewith glory and honor.
The glory, John 17, the glorythat you have given me.
I give to them, is Jesustalking.
He's giving us a glory thatthey may be one even as we are

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one, I in them and you in me.
That they may become perfectlyone, so that the world may know
that you sent me and love themeven as you love me.
Here's the reality of the gloryof God is that he is so kind to
allow us to participate in itthrough the cross.

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That great glory that we get toreflect.
He crowns us with it throughthe blood of His Son, Jesus.
The glory of God is not likethe sun in which we just look at
.
The glory of God is like thesun in which it penetrates our
lives and we feel every aspectof it.
Because he crowns us.

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With it, we get to participatein.
The glory of God Isn't?

Speaker 1 (46:26):
that wild.
That's so good, man Ray.
You know Moses had a littlerun-in with the glory of God and
he wanted God to show him allhis glory.
One of my favorite portions ofScripture God says show me your
glory.

Speaker 3 (46:40):
And God said you cannot see my glory and live.
You cannot stand in my presenceand live.
No man has seen God at any time.
We have people say oh, I wentinto God's presence and we
talked as buddies, but you can'tlive in God's presence.
And the reason we can't live inGod's presence is because he's
holy and like a judge who isangry at some wicked man who has
murdered a young child, thejudge's anger will be in direct

(47:03):
proportion to his goodness.
If he's good, he'll be angry.
If he's very good, he'll beextremely angry.
If he's not at all angry, he'snot a good judge.
He should be removed from thebench.
And the Bible says God is angryat the wicked every day and if
we stood in his presence hewould kill us justly because of
his glory.
So when Moses wanted to seeGod's glory, the interesting

(47:25):
thing is that God says I'll hideyou in the cleft of a rock and
I'll let my goodness pass you by.
He didn't say glory, he saidgoodness.
And it's because the goodnessof God would have killed Moses
instantly had he been in thepresence.
And it's just a wonderfulpicture of us sheltering in the
rock of ages Rock of ages cleftfor me.
Let me hide myself in thee.

(47:46):
So when we stand in thepresence of God on that day, we
can stand pure of heart becauseof what Jesus did on the cross.
He said blessed are the pure inheart, for they shall see God.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Amen, wow, yeah, and we need to, I think, pause when
we hear or read passages likethat and recognize that man
couldn't invent something thatforeign to his thinking, man
couldn't conceive something thatis so deeply profound as that

(48:17):
right.
Like if I were to create orfashion or form a God I would
never get into, like his gloryand you can't see all my glory
and my goodness.
I mean, it's just like thereare those moments again I've
shared before where I'm awed byscripture, where I'm reminded of
God, and that's another way wecan glorify him too.
We've put out the GoosebumpBible, the Goosebump Bible RL

(48:40):
Stine.
You hit a button and bumps go upwhen you read a good verse.

Speaker 3 (48:45):
It'd be a little bumpy cover.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Easy.
I have a question for you,because I've been studying that
verse for the last couple ofweeks now, or that story of
Moses and one scholar talksabout because it uses the phrase
like the backside.
So he points out that probablythe most accurate depiction of
what Moses saw was the shadow ofthe glory of God, not the glory

(49:10):
of God directly the shadow ofthe glory of God, and that alone
radiated his face and I alwaysthought to myself, like if
that's what it did to Moses, hisface, what did it do to his
heart?
So, EZ, how do we disciple ourchildren to see the glory of God
?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Well, I think, first and foremost, you want your
children to crave God because ofhow they watch you pursue Him.
I've talked about John Pattonbefore.
He's one of my heroes.
He was the guy that won the NewHebrides tribes to the Lord
back in the 1800s and what movedhim was his father and his

(49:54):
father's pursuit of the Lord,and he talked about how, after
their prayer time, he said theywould be sitting around their
father and after their fathergot done praying, he said they
would see almost the glow on hisface because of his holy
pursuit of God, his love for theLord, and he talked about how

(50:15):
he wanted in some way to be likehis father and to be the answer
to his father's prayer for theunreached tribes that his father
was praying for.
And then he became the answerto that prayer.
He won all these people to theLord in the New Hebrides tribes.
Were they cannibals?
Yeah, they were cannibalistic.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Well, I would have dropped tracks fire.
Drop it at the point, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
But, oscar, pursue God, have a genuine walk with
the Lord and make much of Godbefore your children as you
exalt His glory.
Don't crave the Lord, you know,versus just preaching at them
and then living a hypocriticallife.
So that's huge.
I was talking about His Wordbefore, about how we can glorify

(51:01):
God by being people who seekHis face through His Word and
then being a people who proclaimHis Word and then being a
people who obey His Word.
All of that glorifies the Lord,because that's His Word and he
elevates it above His own name,he says.
And so we need to recognizethat when we're a people of the
Word, we glorify the Lord.

(51:21):
I was touching on evangelism,too, before you guys were
beating each other up, and I wastalking about how we don't
often think about evangelism asglorifying God because we're so
caught up in our fear, we're socaught up in our inadequacy,
we're so caught up in ournervousness that we don't stop
to recognize that when weproclaim the gospel, we're

(51:44):
saying that again, god is true.
We're saying, look at what hedid.
And so I think when we fallmore in love with the Lord, when
we recognize how much glory isimportant to the Lord, and then
we understand that we have theability to glorify the Lord.
That's going to begin to moveus toward doing the things that

(52:06):
we're not necessarilycomfortable with.
I'm going to go share the gospel.
Do you want to?
No, how do you feel?
I'm terrified?
Would you rather do anythingelse?
Absolutely.
Why are you going to do it?
Because I want to glorify God,amen.
Why are you going to repentright now?
Do you feel like repenting andturning from your sin?
No, I love this sin.

(52:26):
Why?
Because I want to glorify God.
It becomes all-consuming andthen it begins to touch on
everything.
Why are you determined to be agood husband and a good wife and
a faithful, obedient child?
Because I want to glorify God.
You've got tears in your eye.
I do, I know, because when youfall in love with him, when you
understand that you're going tobe with him forever, when you

(52:49):
recognize that you and yourpuniness and you and your
fallenness and your brokennessand in your inadequacy, can
still glorify God in yourweakness, it opens your eyes up
and you start living in a waywhere, like, why am I doing that
?
And you start why am I prayingfor people without anybody
knowing?
I'm praying for them and I'vebeen doing it for years, and
these people are actually nastyto me and treat me in a hateful

(53:11):
way.
Why do I do it?
Thanks, oh no the secret's out.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
You praise for us daily.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Oh, man, so you guys know what I'm saying.
Yes, so you guys know what I'msaying.
Yes, man, like jealous for theglory of yeah, you want to exalt
him in everything you do and,again, that's why, years ago I I
did this with my family.
I've shared it a number oftimes before, but I know we have
new listeners all the time, orthose that need to be reminded
where I unveiled for them ourfamily vision statement to
gladly and passionately glorifygod in every thought, affection,

(53:43):
word, word and deed, whileconstantly enjoying him as our
greatest pleasure and mostprecious treasure.
That's it, and part of thatcomes from the Westminster
Confession chief and a man toglorify God and enjoy him
forever.
But I wanted to get detailed onthat right.
In every thought, affection,word and deed, and everything I
think and everything feel, andeverything that I do and

(54:07):
everything that I say, I want myGod to be glorified.
You want to talk about purpose.
People are I don't know what mypurpose in life is.
I mean, talk about like aPandora's box in a good way.
Live for the glory of God, man,you're going to have purpose
beyond limit.

Speaker 4 (54:24):
Does that make sense?
It also changes the why in whatwe do.
We talk about the gospel as anirksome task.
There's certainly times inwhich we like I don't want to do
this, but I should.
But I think when we're reallydrinking the cup of the glory of
God, like Psalm 51, he goesfrom recognizing his sin, from

(54:44):
repenting of his sin, and thenhe says restore to me the joy of
your salvation.
He talks about joy.
Restore me, fill me up.
Because then reflecting or Ishould say acting out the glory
of God and family andproclaiming the gospel becomes
an overflow of joy.
And we are created to overflowwith joy.

(55:06):
I've said it before it's likeevery single one of us are
designed to do this.
When you watch a new movie,when you read a great book, when
you visit a new restaurant, thefirst thing you want to do is
invite other people to share inthat goodness.
It's natural in you.
Did you see that game?
Did you watch that movie?
Have you listened to that newalbum that just came out?
It's so good.
You gotta listen.
We are by nature evangelists tothe things that bring us joy.

(55:30):
And what more to bring us joythan the glory of God and then
evangelize that?

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Amen, that's so good.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Yeah, and I love what Piper said.
He said glorifying meansfeeling and thinking and acting
in ways that reflect hisgreatness, that make much of God
, that give evidence of thesupreme greatness of all his
attributes and theall-satisfying beauty of his
manifold perfections.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Oh man, that's really good.

Speaker 1 (56:02):
What a definition you know to make much of God, mark.
It was you who, years ago, saidsomething that really impacted
me.
You know that we need to stoptrying to impress people with
ourselves.

Speaker 2 (56:17):
I got that from you.
Did you?

Speaker 3 (56:20):
You guys hang out way too much I have got things gone
recycled, so that's why youthought it was so good.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
No, but to continue on with what you were talking
about with Piper, he said if youdo not see God in his glory,
well then you'll be mesmerizedby fireworks and streetlights.

Speaker 3 (56:35):
Mark, I really appreciate your sermon Hell's
Best Kept Secret.
Thank you, it's meant so muchhe goes.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
I love it when you quote me, mark Sinners in the
hands of an angry God no that'sOscar.

Speaker 1 (56:43):
Thank you, yeah.
So, guys, we need to be mindfulthat we have a function, that we
have a purpose as God's people,and that is to make much of Him
to even recognize thatglorifying God doesn't always
look the way we think it's goingto look Like.

(57:04):
When I think of glorifying God,let's say in my preaching
ministry that my sermon is goingto be just blazing and
everyone's going to be in awe ofwhat I just said and I'm going
to feel good and that's probablyglorifying myself.
You know, maybe God wants to beglorified through me, fumbling
and stumbling and not making allthe sense that I had hoped to

(57:27):
make, but he wants people to seeme up there and as they see me,
they see a sincerity and theysee a delivery that is somehow
pointing them toward truth whilenot giving any focus to me.
And then they walk away awayand I walk away feeling horrible
.
And then God is now doingsomething in me as he's
sanctifying me.

(57:47):
To look to him and not myself,right, mark?
A thousand things at one timethat we can't see.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
You fumbling and making a mess up in the pulpit
will make you usable and pliablenext time.
Right, you think about ourwives that are submitting to us.
I go to my wife and I say, babe, I feel like God's calling us
to go to Idaho.
She's like, no, god's notcalling us to go to Idaho, what
are you talking about?
And she has a decision to make.
Right, am I going to submit tomy husband?

(58:13):
And what happens?
I go over to Idaho.
I think that God's going tostart a work.
I start a church and there'slike two families that are a
part of this.
I'm here for two years and whatI think God's going to do a
work through me to the otherpeople is, in reality, a work
that God is doing to me.
So after those two years of mebeing there, I go back to my
wife and I say it's time to moveback to Southern California.

(58:34):
But now I move back to SouthernCalifornia.
God always intended me to go toIdaho because he wanted to do
work to me not necessarilythrough me.
And now I come back to SouthernCalifornia and I'm usable and
pliable for the work that Godwants to do there, but all the
while my wife submits in themidst of all of that, saying you
have now prepared, inside of myhusband, a work, and you made
him a person who I really wantto look up to and emulate.

(58:58):
And we like Idaho, we do likeall you Idahoans, we love Idaho,
yeah and Mark.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
And to think of, then , the ramifications of that
right Like you could look andsay like Moses in the wilderness
right 40 years, like what?
You know, and 40 years beforehe was used, but yet all that
God was doing in that time.
That made it look like a wasteof time, though, because of the
amount of time he was using toimpact millions, millions of

(59:28):
people through what he did,through Moses' life and even
what we have as far as hisaccounts in the Word.

Speaker 2 (59:33):
Yeah, we see one or two dealings of God to get us to
where we need to be, but inreality there's millions of
pieces that are part of thatclock to get you to where you
need to be, Even getting into acar accident.
What God had to do?
To maneuver and manipulatedifferent cars to be in
different places in order foryou to be at that time and space
, to do that work inside of you,which is also done inside of
other people.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Amen, yeah, amen, friends Well.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
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