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Hi, welcome. To the long take, this week
we're discussing the new Netflixmovie Where I Seen the Robot,
which brings back Taapsee, Pannuand The Conversate to play the
same roles in what is I think the first sequel to an Indian
Netflix version. Why is this movie impossible to
fall online? I don't know.
I don't remember the first one much other than the fact that
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they. Do like to try to recap.
I think they don't expect anyoneto remember at this point.
Yeah, they do recap it, althoughI don't know how important or
how effective that recap is. Yeah.
That's very debitable, yeah. But yeah, they're trying to
recap it. It's a sequel.
I did not like the first one, but I think I was more angry at
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the first one than this one. You just like seen so many of
these you like This is what happens with the Netflix in that
movie at this point. Yeah, probably because, you
know, that one's like 2021 and I'm sure like the pandemic
played a role in how we reacted to stuff.
And I think we were coming out of the pandemic by then, but
yeah, sure. Yeah, but then that feels like
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such a pandemic era thing. Yeah.
Like, because they keep kind of bragging about how big a hit it
was. And I can't imagine anybody kind
of. I mean, why does this movie have
a sequel? Like, of all the things in the
world? Yeah, it has.
Sequel, basically because of what you just said in the
previous sentence is because they were like, Oh my God, we
like, it's the number one movie this year.
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We should do something with it. And they were like, why not?
And it's very it's obvious that short teens, but like you
clearly did not think it through, right?
Because it's simultaneously underwritten and overwritten.
I don't know how to make sense of.
Yeah. And because.
It makes no sense because it's like the premise is so like on
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shaky ground. Like, is this the only thing you
could come up with? But then as you said, at the
same time, it's like because they always want to pull a fast
one on the audience. Everything is like half show
unto us, right? Every scene you like shown from
one like, but then certain bits will be missing, which will like
play with your head because you were like, wait, was that a
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complete scene? I couldn't tell.
Only to like return to the same scene like 10:20, 30-40 minutes
later and then show you the missing piece and then be like,
OK, I guess. Thanks.
Not that I was waiting for it, but.
Sure, But like, sure, yeah, likeevery scene must be at least
revisited once, if not more. Yeah, it's a weird way.
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Because on paper there is no plot, right?
They killed someone and they ranaway.
It's basically it. The movie can't even, like,
convincingly tell us why the newcop Uncle Montu even believes
that Rishu is alive, right? Because there is no good
explanation. He's just language.
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One more thing you think of He'sbeen.
Sitting in Agra his entire life,like waiting for them to come
there. And I'm sure like he pursued
like pushed his seniors to be like, I want to go to Agra
because my like nephew was like taken from me.
And he did all that on the shakylike ground of telling his
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superiors that mujhe lagrai. Actually, like there's no
explanation, right? And they, I mean, I'm sure they
don't expect the audience to even questions such things.
But then I don't know what that says.
Is it like, yeah, we don't respect the audience or we think
that there is so much else to kind of distract you from
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questions like this that doesn'tmatter in.
The yeah, which is a weird thing, right?
Because I like you, you make it personal.
You like this cop is like a, youknow, has a personal involved in
this. So like, he should be a central
character, right? Like that would make sense
because then he's related to theguy that was killed by this like
couple in the first movie, but then he's almost like tangential
to the story because the real story is actually happening with
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Abhimanyu. Yeah, there's another villain.
So there are so many villains. There's like the CID person from
the first movie and there's thinking.
About for no reason like. There's this this person, the
the third lead of this movie, and all of them like together.
They kind of the movie wants us to think that they are the
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villains, right? Which implies that Rishu and
Rani are the protagonists, or atleast the people we're supposed
to root for, which which is. High but like I will buy it if
you are giving me characters whoare like you know like which
Dick Roy scan but when he was just like character was so like
like how are they anyway developed after the first movie?
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Aren't they still the same people?
In fact, they've gone reverse, right?
Because do you remember how in how like in Gone Girl, like
Tyler Perry, like makes a joke at the end that you two are
like, you'll have to bleed this out.
But like he says, you two are like F top people.
Yeah. Each other, yeah.
Yeah. And the entire crowd in my
screening kind of laughed because we were all thinking the
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same thing. In this movie, that doesn't
happen, right? In this movie, we're supposed to
be like, oh, yeah, they really love each other because the
movie has told us 15 times in 15different ways that Oh my God.
Like, these are like, Uncle Montu literally looks into the
camera and says divine lovers. Yeah, which like.
Was such an odd addition becausethree seconds before that he
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says that like he's like all serious looking through the like
jail car like whatever gates at like Taapsee Pannu and he's like
she's gonna I'm gonna catch likethe show.
And then the divine lovers thingis almost like said like like a
fourth one breaking moment. Yeah, yeah, almost.
He's looking at us and yeah, it's.
Like what is happening? In which which tone do you want
to like? Pick one.
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Yeah I don't remember the 1st movie much but I feel like that
was more in on the joke. That because there was like a
mesh of like different genres and what I remember, you know,
like they were trying to do like, like, you know, books say
like there's also like cringe comedy stuff without like other
shoes, family members and stuff like that.
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But yeah, they like, they just, they've picked a lane.
They're like, we're going to be like, serious.
What a thriller now. Yeah, which is, I don't know, I
mean, it's very different. Also it looks different from the
first one, but none of it is like like I still don't
understand what the movie is saying beyond just, you know,
here is a couple that is on the run.
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You know, I'll be I'll be talking about like the first one
was from what I recall, it was there was some stuff in it about
here is what an arranged marriage look like.
Looks. Like I think 30 of the movie it
was like he, you know, like the show basically.
I couldn't get anyone and then finally I just landed running
out of the. Blue, Yeah.
Whereas this one, I don't know what it's saying beyond like,
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what is the point of this movie?Like, what?
What are we even supposed to kind of scratch beneath the
surface? Yeah, it's just like a plot of
like these two trying to like get away.
It's like a it's almost like a filler movie.
It's like almost like they're waiting key like we'll make the
next movie which actually exploding Adiba's pogger.
Adiba's ha, because that's the thing, right?
Because it's there's no plot to it.
But then simultaneously you havescenes like Sub Logan and
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secretly planned. And then we like so much
contrivance. Yeah, happens in that one scene
alone. Like you're I'm like nearly
throwing something. Yeah.
Because like, it's not like, youknow, external for whatever.
Why can't you just, you just simply like leave the city?
I don't get it. Because they so Rishu is
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elsewhere she is brought by the cops.
She is allowed to go to the bridge which I don't know why
they do that. Then the serial killer walks in
dressed as a cop and they all meet and they jump into the
thing and there is a crocodile who they've already messed with.
Like they've played mind games with the crocodile and crocodile
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is supposedly he kills them but he doesn't.
Someone has sat down and writtenthis nonsense.
Yeah, and there's a train in thescene which, like, it never gets
used. I just kept waiting.
I was like, this is the Chekovs gun, right?
You're going to use that. It's going to start moving.
No Chekovs gun was. The weird thing like the train
is right there. It's right there.
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Every shot I can see the train but it doesn't move and never
plays a part in like but. Even the kids from like, what
was that JJ Abrams movie they had?
They had a better idea of how touse trains for production value.
But yeah, this one is like, like, I don't even.
It's supposed to be in Agra. And most of it looks like
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they've shot on, like, location,which I appreciate because for
several years, you know, like they it felt like the entire
industry and not just ours, likeeven Barga, it felt like they
decided can I we could just do everything indoors, right.
So for a change, this is at least in some real small town.
I appreciate. But then it could have been
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anything, right? A Gautam up police, Sibhagra.
Why in the world are you still in UP?
Yeah, like just, you know. At least like give them some
challenge. Do they have to like work across
state to the department? Yeah, but it's my challenge to
because Uncle Montu's like, I will tell you, I will not let
you out of my sight except when you're actually with the Rishu.
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The guy was out there. Yeah.
Every time like yeah, put on this knob down there scale like
to block radius me around where she works and where she lives.
But somehow like whenever Rishu leads to like come in day or
night, he's just like clearly roaming around and like OK, then
I'll. Shop.
Yeah, because if I even introduce that angle of Uncle
Montu saying K name, I'm going to tell you you're not going to
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get away with it. I know what you're up to.
And then every time she. Make him look like an idiot, not
basically because like yeah introduce this character you
like. This guy is going to ace this
case now which like Kishore Inspector could not do and then
5 minutes later he looks like a buffoon.
He's just sitting and making speeches and looking into the
cab and saying to why, you know.Like the police station like
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weirdly and then saying divine lovers and who skipped in second
while he's like he does that someone, but I'll beat you right
Well. It doesn't make sense.
It was like. Moment that's reminding me now
like when they're on the banks of the river near the bridge
like they're conveniently waiting for us to like give us
us information everyone talks tous like at random moments you
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know like because Oh yeah yeah because he where this I'll be
minute to turn the water the blue so that this cop cop junior
is like so DNA report did not get matched yeah yeah yeah when
when the report came. He walks up to like Uncle Montu.
He's like, woah, DNA report match New York.
By talking to the audience to talk as if you are in the movie.
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It's like, so it's lazy, right? Because they're like, ha ha, we
who cares? Like why even bother thinking
about making this slightly more relievable?
Because anyway, we're doing nonsense like this movie has
exposition within exposition, right?
Yeah, like there is a flashback that exists and those flashback
in the OR low explain everythingis explained like people will
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just stop doing what they're at one point.
Because like, even after all of this exposition, I thought of
the movie, I don't know what's happening.
Like that London guy turns and I'm like, what?
They just show like one shot, heknocks on the door and then
nothing else. And then 30 minutes later they
explained that that guy was blackmailing like.
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Like in that one sentence when they say that London blackmail
Karata, you're supposed. To be like, but then like, I
like you taking the tension of their own movie.
Because when you visit the show and he sees all that dirt on the
floor, I'm like, I don't know, like what is this about?
Like I don't think that guy we introduced in Karasco.
It's very bizarre. And then there's that other
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woman also, right, who keeps like straight up in the movie
harassing. Yeah, him.
It would be odd in any movie, but in this one, it's like,
whatever is this? Everyone is a psycho in this
movie. Yeah, and why does she also,
like, not have to have one of her limbs?
Like what kind of commentary areyou, you know, providing?
Them it's just. Woman with one leg missing goes
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for a man with one arm missing. Like is it supposed to be funny
on some level? I don't know, I don't think it's
supposed to be funny. Like I didn't.
That's the problem with this movie, right?
Like I would have appreciated iteven like 5% more had they
clearly indicated that this was all a joke, right?
But I don't think that that one woman with an arm missing or
whatever leg missing is supposedto be funny.
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It's just like, oh, you're like me, so let's get together.
I don't know. Seriously, like who comes up
with scripts in India and how dowe like reach budgets and get to
and then get short? And then have the ego to give
themselves, like, top billing. Yeah, they think of themselves
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as big stars, even though we've spoken about six or four Movies
Now, I think. In like 4 months.
Yeah, and but here it's like thewriter gets stopped billing,
right? And I'm like, Are you sure you
wanted for this one? It's very bizarre.
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I I mean, so this stuff is there, which is like head
scratching. But then there's also like Rani
just decides to marry a random person because she wants to
throw the cops off the scent. Like is that the easiest way to
throw the cops off the send? And do you think this cop is not
going to like, you know, like figure it out?
While I was not trailing her forthen she was doing a thing.
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The moment I start trailing her,she's like getting married to
someone. She's getting married to render
was I'm not even trailing you. I want to find a rishu.
How does it matter? And then it's plan to broad
issue is to like broadcast that the Agar police is like
torturing the suspect and then somehow expect no repercussions
from anyone. Oh yeah, I don't know.
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And then I mean, I don't know. What's more annoying is that
this this is the plan they came up with, or that the plan works
because plan work. Because they came up with and
it's a move. Everything is like that.
They're like, please believe Carlo, because I'm there.
Like high, you know, a part. So a part of this is on paper,
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you have a ridiculous script, right?
And then what you do with that script is important, right?
You can either play it straight,which is what everybody here is
doing. But then if the actors are
playing it straight and the director kind of has fun with
that, even that is enjoyable, right?
Yeah, like. If you make it like even
slightly slapstick, then you know, then you'd like RT care.
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It's supposed to be like everyone's supposed to be a
buffoon. Let's go along with it.
But here it's like. Gold Mile meets for Asinderabad,
but maybe this one as you said, yeah, it's full like 96 series
planning. Exactly.
So they're playing it fully straight, and the movie itself
doesn't have the intelligence tobe like, no, but obviously this
is stupid, right? Because why would anybody come
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up with these plans? Why would there be a mugger
much? Yeah.
So the fact that everything is being borrowed or from a book or
something at some point. So you can have fun with that.
Also they literally taking things from published.
Stuff it's like that have them kind of misinterpret something
like, oh, Amit is coming from here, do something.
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Or at least have the actors be alittle more exaggerated.
Like I can't. These people are the same in
every movie, to be honest. Like and it's very annoying
because I'm like, is nobody evensitting down for a day before
you start shooting and deciding what we want to do with this
other than just show up on set and just read your lines?
You know, because Vikrant Masseyis I don't know man.
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Like he's played this the same character I feel in like 5
movies that we have spoken about, right?
He looks innocent, but under sayhe's like a psycho.
Sure. I think I've seen this movie
before and even with Topsy. Topsy Banu plays Topsy Banu.
Yeah, it's like just steely resolve and then hyper
melodrama. Is it two kind of notes?
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There's no between. That's the only two things.
It's very odd like and I'm, I mean she's the gone on record to
say that I don't do more than two takes.
But then even if you're doing 2 takes, then which variation?
I mean yeah like if you spend like six hours in the workshop
before you do 2 takes then they will, that's fine.
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Like you already know the character but doesn't look like
you're doing any workshop or preproduction beforehand.
It's just like, now I've done this and this is the movie that
you're going to have to deal with because I'm.
Not going to give you more options to like have.
And if one person, the protagonist of your movie, The
main star of your movie, is not giving you options, then that
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means that the others also are left with whatever she's doing,
right? We have to kind of, yeah.
Because she's like an, I'm pretty sure almost every scene,
yeah. We have to match her tone.
So now entire movie is crude. Congratulations.
For the second, it's not like it's like, you know, like eight
part cult, whether they go or wejust try to improve the sequel,
you know, like this. Movie got biggest creative
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deviation from the first. Movie is like the dude who's
made it is. He's decided that in every scene
I will shine like a big light into the lens directly.
I can see the light. It doesn't need.
What is that light? I can see it.
Is it like literally like, are we supposed to?
Is it a commentary on like how artificial everything is because
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we can see like the set or what?Is it?
I don't think anyone's thinking as deep nobody.
'S thinking it's just weird so beyond the point it's just like
empty aesthetic, right? So I'm like, fine, what level am
I supposed to even engage with this on, is my question Right.
This is the kind of movie where you're, like, struggling to
legitimize it. Yeah.
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By imparting some degree of thought.
But sadly, he's like, ha, whatever, mother much in the
heart, Kalia. That's the.
This is. That's the.
It's like worse than a poor SNL.Because SNL at least has the
self-awareness to. Self-awareness, exactly.
Yeah, at least they're in on thejoke.
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This one is like, I don't know, like, so this is one of those
political movies, right, where the left and the right, they
could watch the same movie and be like, you know, so if you
show this to like the Mirzapur crowd, they'll be like fully
like, wow, this is like exactly what we wanted between seasons.
Yeah, I guess which transition into.
I don't know. This is like, what will our
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people say? Like critics, I wish I gave up
on that mission long ago. The day people were like 12th
Fair is the movie of the year. I was like, I gave up on this
crowd. I mean, yeah, that was.
Many low points in about. I don't know.
I don't know. So I'm curious to see because as
we know, the entire, I mean, at least the critics community was
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up in arms about something like Animal, right?
That I, how could you, this is female version of Animal as far
as I'm concerned. So API, I'm curious to see if
anybody is going to raise the same objections because to me
I'm like this is that is no difference.
In fact, Animal had more self-awareness than this movie.
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Yeah, that's true. And we at least like at some
portion they did exhibit. Some so this one is to fully
earnestly being like, haha, we want you to root for two
murderers because like no, so she's.
Not objected to the movies like only trust.
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Whatever. I don't know.
I think this is going to be one of those things that one week
earlier it's a top movie of all time.
Everybody's going to have a party and then.
And then it's going to be like forgotten and the trash.
Until like suddenly when like hesay, I have seen the like, Oh
no, not yet. Somehow this became the number
one movie of the year. OK.
It's almost like a threat. The movie got title.
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It's like, but Pago, she's coming.
Maybe a third one will be a higher beast then.
That would be 100 times more interesting.
Yeah, I mean, how does she survive that fall in the end?
This, you know, she comes back. Is she she has to be like Co
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starring? Yeah, no, no.
So I joked in that time, so other I would have, it would
have been more easy to believe if like ratio had turned into
Superman and kind of swept in and yeah.
I was really expecting like a Mission Impossible moment and
like she like as she's falling, she like pulled like some Tom
Cruise level stunt, opened some wings and then started like sky
gliding or something. I saw how well she's just like
it's so poorly like edited like you see her fall and the next
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thing you see is like she she's already in the pani and there's
no like Cliff insight around her.
Yeah exactly. Everything is like lush green.
I'm like you you guys know this is short in two different
locations, right? Any like basic poison can tell
and. You know that you showed us the
Cliff. And you have to open it.
She she fell vertically down. Where is the Cliff?
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Yeah, so it for a second I was like, are we in a different
timeline? Was she likes?
But then I was like, I can't be bothered to like my brain now at
this point. Yeah, utter nonsense.
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