September 13, 2024 • 24 mins
Sector 36 is a gratuitously grisly dramatisation of the gruesome Nithari serial murders from around two decades ago. But because it unfolds with zero nuance, the movie mines cheap thrills out of a real-life horror story.
We talk about the strange arcs that Vikrant Massey and Deepak Dobriyal’s characters have been given, the haphazard narrative structure, and seemingly missing sequences that could’ve helped make the story smoother.
We also talk about Massey’s performance in the interrogation scene and the filmmakers’ odd decision to set the movie in Delhi and not Noida, where the actual crimes took place.
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Hi, welcome to the lock tech. This week we're discussing the
new Indian Netflix movie Sector 36, which is based on a real
life case. Although it does say that it's
taking some care to liberty and start stars.
Because I say as this serial killer who prays on like where
he wants to and a cop play by Deepak doesn't really know what
he wants in life. Yeah.
What is? Why does it take like, I don't
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know, 35 minutes or 40 minutes to like even?
Start. I don't know.
I was hoping that you would explain to me what.
Happens. Why?
Why are they taking so long for like everything?
35 minutes can happen I think inlike 5 minutes.
No the. The idea to fundamentally
introduce the cop character as, you know, someone who's
basically a villain is confusingto me because it points to
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certain level of indecision. No, from on the movie's part
because it doesn't know if it wants to be like this character
study of this guy who's like a, you know, on like a redemption
arc, or if it wants to be a procedural based on a real life
incident. It doesn't know.
Yeah, that's. Like has no idea.
It's never really gets going. I just kept waiting for the
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movie. Like please get going.
You know, finally, like when hisdaughter gets kidnapped and like
what a failed kidnapping and he like chases this guy.
Then he finally like he gets like a kick, right?
He's like, no, that that kick that product needs sometimes to
go on their adventure and gets that and the value like, OK,
fine. Maybe he will now pursue this
case like wholeheartedly. And five years later, he's told
by his boss twice that, you know, shut down and sit down.
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And I'm like, OK, this movie. Is that the square?
No SO. I thought that the the so-called
kick was extremely clumsy, right, because was kid 2 minutes
for it like the father of the missing child is like had
confronted his way. Yeah, and he's like AAP Ki beti
NI ako named for a quadra and then literally 30 seconds later
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so. It's like yeah I like the some
randoms have avoiding address being foreshadowing for us for
either. Yeah, I mean, so firstly, it's
clumsy, right? Because you're doing it in a
very like here it is. Let's just get it out of the
way, you know Which once again I'm asking why did you even
start this way then if you wanted to arrive at this point,
just start anyway, you know? Yeah.
Secondly, I've started in at theShera night.
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This movie can start there. We don't need anything for that.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, secondly, it makes me
wonder if this mastermind killeris actually a mastermind, if
he's just like an idiot because but love, it's night time, but
it might as well have been broaddaylight, right?
Because it's like a crowded me land.
Yeah, because normally we show on, like in some tiny montage
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that he kidnaps people, like, you know, when they're all known
on a street. And suddenly on this Dusshera
night, he's like, I'm going to role play, I'm going to act and
Don raw. And I'm like, that's play on the
nose, by the way. And then kidnap a girl in front
of everyone and then like suck at it so badly that people will
find you in like a minute. How much love not only is he in
like plain sight while he's committing this crime, though,
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or like Uska Khudka Bap sees himYeah, it's not like some third
person saw and like found DeepakDum Biyar and said this, but not
even like your daughter has beenkidnapped, but some girl has
been kidnapped. Please no.
His own daughter he sees being kidnapped and then he chases
himself and then he it's so clumsy all the.
Direction of the chase scene is so clumsy.
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Like it just feels like for fourtimes it feels like the guy is
actually very close to him and he can like grab him and put him
into the chase. But then then they'll cut to a
different shot and then he'll befar away.
And then I'm like Vijay Kabua. Yeah, once they turn a corner
and I think like Vikrant Massey bumps into the wall and the wall
moves because it's obviously like thermal call or something.
Like they can't even do such basic side of just like, you
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know, ensuring that short to short distance between of
characters is equal distant. Yeah, yeah, or I mean, it's
because it's a chase, right? We need to kind of understand
that there is a distance. Like, we need to feel that, oh,
he's not going to get this dude,but 15 times you feel like.
It suddenly comes out of like breath and he collapses.
And I mean, even the kidnapping,the direction is so weird
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because it makes it seem as if Deepak Dobiyar is like 5 feet
away. Yeah.
Exactly, it does feel like that all the time but then they'll
cut to a different shot and thenhe'd be like 15 feet away
because community the car masterhas to fall over something.
So if he's 5 feet away they'll be too close to the area catch
him. They intentionally put him
further away and like by you're breaking your own continuity at
this point. So I mean, see that this is like
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on like just technical level, itdoesn't make sense.
But like even on like a story level, like, what was the
purpose of this, right? Just to like send the cop down
this path, right? Fine, you've decided to send him
down this path, but then immediately, like you said, the
the senior is like don't pursue this, right?
Yeah, and not. On then twice in like 4 minutes.
No, but the motivation is not there, right?
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Because like until yesterday, you didn't care.
In fact, you were going so far as to say that you were going so
far as to bribe this person to not.
File a complaint. Exactly right.
And now one day later, you're willing to turn into a vigilant,
which is what he does, right? Get to suspend Hogan.
Now I'm going to turn into that guy from Pathalo.
Yeah, exactly. So I'm very confused.
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Like what? What were you even going for,
Right? Am I supposed to assume that you
were going for one thing and then judge you on the basis of
that? Or am I supposed to assume that
you were going for the other thing as judge you on the basis
of like, I don't know what, Yeah.
It's, it's, it's all over the place.
And it's not like the guy like shows any information of like
police behaviour, right? Like he does like stuff of like
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he just like you know, gets a confession or to someone like
randomly this guy just sitting in this office and he's like,
great, you're sitting here. I I connected 2 dots.
I saw a mobile phone Prem likai APE must be the same Prem and
then voila case solved. He didn't even connect the dots.
The phone presented itself to him.
Yeah, it falls into his lap. Like, literally.
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His lap because his junior takesit out.
He's like, hey, phone is like, wait, what for?
Like 15 things that don't make sense need to have happened for
him to spot that phone. It it is after like this guy's
you know suspended and then the second-half of the movie starts
purely made for three universe is when he realizes again his
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junior points out he that remember that compounder with
the ambulance Cusco award and then he's like Oh yeah, I never
interrogated that guy. I'm like, why didn't you so?
Not only is you know the cop guyweirdly written, the Vicar
Massey character is also like all over the.
Place. Because as you've already
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discussed, you know that bit about his MO, it doesn't make
sense because in one scene he's being all secretive and in the
other he's doing it. But then the way that this
character behaves, it doesn't make sense to me, right?
As am I supposed to? Because on multiple occasions
the movie kind of turned into this Parichi kind of social
activism. Yeah, mode the showroom is at
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the cop is like, oh, we are you want to start the three of us
and like 1.5 black people, etcetera, etcetera.
So I don't know if I'm suppose. And that's not an excuse, right.
Yeah, you're actively shirking your duty.
Exactly. So it does.
It's not like you're doing otherthings very well.
It's not like you have 10 pending cases and you have
refused another case, right? You want 0 basis.
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Which I be there was very so I'mnot supposed to feel bad for.
And and like the same thing happens at the end where the
movie does. It's like this is to me the most
insane thing that the movie does.
Right in the middle of the interrogation.
The the dude who has already established to be I mean a
serial killer, realist cannibal even Yeah, and he's he goes
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launch into this lecture about he's only.
Given to the audience when Ali was on screen, that boy.
Yeah. So it's like a lecture to us.
We don't need it. Anymore.
So I'm sitting there and I've watched this movie like
literally I finished 5 minutes ago and I must have seen this
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scene like 35 minutes ago. I'm sitting there and I'm
wondering, are you seriously expecting me to nod along with
the cannibal female killer rightnow?
Like what's? That scene comes like out of the
blue, like almost, which is weird, like kind of movie, which
is like building to I guess, like open direction scene.
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But then even then, it's just like, you know, because
everything's been haphazard, Like the guy doesn't really know
cop what to do, like how to pursue this case because he's
been multiple times he's been dismissed or suspended or
whatever gets a new boss. Like luckily it turns out to be
very like helpful, like is goingalong with him to like random
see, you know, to even see if like some witnesses or may or
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something or like some complies.Then like he's standing there
and then the guys start blurtingaround like.
No, it's very strange because again, it's like even in like
long legs, right? Or any of those.
See the killer movies like 7 or whatever.
There is a procedural element, you know where the investigator
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or the cop is, you know, going through the clues.
Yeah, they've been tracking, even if they've been ending up
at dead ends, they've been doingit for like months and months.
Yeah, and it's all building to this eventual kind of this
thing, right. But here, a lot of it happens
off screen. Yeah, right.
When the new boss comes and he'slike arrest Prem and and Deepak
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Dobriyan is like, thank you, Sir.
We we cut to like them in the interrogation room.
Yeah. What about the arrest?
How are we not building to like,I would imagine that the arrest
is major thing. Yeah.
Did he come quietly? Did you have to?
What happened? I don't know.
And then Vikrant Massey kind of turns into a different character
altogether. Exactly.
He's a different movie. Like he's just like, because his
(09:58):
entire thing is like Jandi karo mujhe Kharzak like.
When did he turn into? So he was always playing this
character like some comic book villain, right?
Yeah. But then the movie's also trying
to tell us that name because he was abused.
So he is kind of, he's also doing the same thing, which is
grounded in reality, right? What the performance does not
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make it seem like this person isgrounded in any sort of reality.
He is living in a fantasy world now in like the third active
world. You have tried to suggest to me
that this person is living in a fantasy world.
But then that should change Deepak Dobrial's approach,
right? He should be like, Oh my God,
this guy is completely unhinged.He's like long leg singing songs
at me. Now I have to talk to him like
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he's long leg singing songs at me.
But Deepak Dobrial is playing itstraight.
Person is like so. They're taken aback.
He's like, Oh my God, how is he confessing about this?
I thought this would be harder for me.
And yeah, but like, a confessionwill not stand in court, right?
So you have to. So all of this is essentially
(11:02):
worthless. Yeah, right.
Whatever you're saying. Because the charge, you have no
evidence, right? You have to find the evidence
which the movie kind of jumps into I guess.
Last 30 minutes, man. Which also like it jumps into
like the next scene after the interrogation.
Like whatever these after that they just arrive at the
investigation again through his health.
But like. And it's like, I don't know what
kind of friends they're doing, but they're letting the killer
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touch on the bones. So I'm not sure what you going
to do with the bones after that.I don't know but then like
screen so far. Montage.
We are just like they're playinga song they wrote like the hard
jail, whatever, like being denied stuff.
And it's like, yeah, because youhaven't established this, like,
aesthetic anywhere in the movie,right?
It just says house or like. Whatever.
(11:45):
I think 75 minutes by then I have not seen out a single piece
of text on your screen. And certainly now this text on
screen, I'm like this doesn't isthis like some other editor You
had multiple editors who made like this, You did some other
job on this. I don't know, the movie kind of.
I mean, yeah, the movie doesn't.Reek of like post production,
like, you know, like mismanagement, like, yeah, Joe,
what what arrived from like the site?
They were like, this is clearly garbage.
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We don't know how to make a movie out of this.
Let's just rearrange scenes in random order.
I mean, yeah. So see, initially, I'm not going
to lie, like should look up on this minute.
I thought that there was something interesting going on,
especially when when the when the cop kind of introduces
himself with this big voice overwrite.
Yeah. So I was like, OK, so you're
trying to, you are trying to saysomething and trying to do
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commentary. You're trying to commentary.
And the character is obviously in his introductory scene, he's
turning down this guy, right, who's very clearly affected,
like his daughter is missing what he's like in Mujini Karna.
Yeah. He walks into the police station
and he accepts like a box of money.
Yeah, So I thought, Acha, that'san interesting way to approach
this story because I wouldn't have thought that you would do
this. Then obviously, the movie kind
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of drastically turns in the next30 minutes, and then it
drastically turns again. And all those issues that we've
spoken about, what, it's not like it seemed entirely
worthless in those first few minutes, right?
So I'm not sure what they shot and how badly it was botched or
if this was always going to be, you know, the weird approach
that they were going to take. Yeah, I want to be like amazed
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if like everything we just saw is in the form of the written
script. I would be amazed if there is a
written script honestly like with these things.
There is a guy. There is a guy's bad story,
yeah. He goes how much of his work is
like was reworked on the set. Like being Abhi Vikrant, now I'm
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going to play him like this. Yeah, I was like, you know,
Vikrant has text 1 evening. He's watching some other
Hollywood thing where you're like, Oh my God, this guy's
amazing singers. Hannibal.
I'm going to go tomorrow and play Hannibal Lecter now, even
though my character has been something else.
Yeah, and nobody told Deepak Dobre and you can see it on his
face. Deepak always like what?
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Stun silence. It's like that Joker showed up
in front of him. Completely without warning this
word finish. I was like.
Bend into a different universe. So there is that other angle
also, right, of the rich businessman boss person, right,
which the movie. That's where the movie is very
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on the nose. I mean, it's on the nose
otherwise also, but this is super on the nose when the rich
person has connections and he gets off and you know it,
obviously. When the confusion thing
happened and I was like, so donewith this, I actually paused for
like a second. I was like, everyone could like
we done. And I saw 38 minutes.
I was like, Oh my God, 38 minutes after this confession
scene, where's the movie gonna go?
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And then we find out with this like whole random like tangents.
They're going one of like how Bussy will get involved but then
Bussy will get out of it, but then the guy gets dismissed
again and then he will go on another tangent to find some
evidence which he got out of Prem and then that will end up
somewhere and then he will end up dying and then.
(14:55):
And then there's some. Yeah.
Then there's some Haryanvi family, yeah.
Which that's a random call to like chop off this dude.
Yeah, what and the? Points of advertised.
I don't know what evidence they're burned, but there's a
shot where they're burning. Evidence, yeah, like I don't
understand because a lot like the bodies are found in the
ditch, right And the bodies yeahis it just a separate like organ
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trade situation which I. Don't know, but like at least
show those shots right of these guys going whenever they
wherever they went, acquired these like bodies to like born
in evidence and like save busty some, I'm guessing.
It doesn't. It's very confusing.
Also the the the parallels to the real case, right?
Because from what I remember, these both of these people were.
Acquitted even the main. Serial killer.
(15:40):
Yeah. Yeah, both of these people were
from. Lack of evidence.
Yeah, some nonsense cake case. Don't say so.
Who investigate Nikki this time,Which is.
The CBI is called IBI in this movie.
I know it's like. No, but the movie itself is not
set in, it's set in Delhi, right?
Which is weird to me because thecase happened in Noida and it's
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very obviously based on one case.
I mean, all the details are the same, it's the characters are
the same, the premise is the same, resolution is the same
except the cop getting killed orwhatever.
But it's weird that I mean, what?
Like Yogi? What's the?
I don't know, does this Delhi even have sectors?
So some colonies might, but it'svery unusual.
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Has kept the sector 3016 the title literally, but then.
Changed but it's like location that are in Delhi, but that is
like I don't know why they did that because it's the aerial
shots are Noida, which is the other weird thing right because.
But as Delhi Police investigating always.
Delhi Police investigating. It's very weird because
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geographically how they show thebungalow and this thing, it's
very similar to the real place, which is funnily in love like 5
minutes away from where I work and it's anyway, but it's it's
similar right with ditches rightthere.
The house is right there. They've designed it in a way
where it kind of resembles the real thing, where this is not
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set in the same city, which is the odd.
Thing. Yeah, very cute.
But it's one of it's like Delhi crime season 2.
That's how sloppy this is. Because there's like full I
don't think I. Never watched that.
Bullet Dodge. Yeah, I think I had like a red
people's like headlines of saying like nothing like Season
1. And also the fact that Richmond
had walked up. I was like this is not going to
be good. This the body I have seen story
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was enough to convince. Yeah, apparently they made it
twice or something, which I wouldn't be surprised if they've
made this twice also. I would, you know, why can't
just things like every time we mentioned, why can't things just
go away like Bobberry? So if you can bury something
that has cost 100 crore, you canbury this thing which I'm sure
cost like 3-5 or 10. Which are anywhere releasing as
(17:51):
a favor to Dinesh vision becauseyou want like 3 or something
yeah. Like exactly you're just doing
it to be like can do a relationship with just pay like
do a kill fee like a pass a low because I'm because nobody has
that's cool. Now continue because this movie
has the to like Oscar sequel like when am I reading it right
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alongside in the end. No, no, yeah, there is the other
dude who's been like passed overfor a for a promotion is
suddenly like handed. Evidence.
Yeah. So like, it happens like six
months later. So it's like, I don't know who
sent it, but I'm guessing it's like they're hinting at a new
case. Or the same case like this guy
will crack it now get to the bottom but.
Send the evidence. Six months later, the.
(18:34):
Ghost of Deepak, I don't know, so I was trying to.
Follow I was like it can't be Ram Charan because he's dead and
even if he send a package to arrive Max even with India
postcard annuity issues in Max 3DS not six months.
It doesn't make sense. Also, I don't know who that dude
is who gets the package at the end.
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He's one of the other juniors who's managing 50,000 people.
Yeah, so. That's there are two, right?
One gets promoted and the other is this dude right?
Yeah, that is this dude. Yeah.
I don't think they've appointed a third guy now.
We. Know nothing about this guy.
No. Why am I supposed to be like 02?
Thank God. Sequel with the with this guy.
Yeah, it's not like Joseph Gordon Levitt in Dark Knight
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Rises exactly when you like. Spend half the movie.
With him, yeah. Who is 5 minutes the movie?
With him. Hadn't fully building up towards
see you next time in two years, yeah.
Who's like no one cares about like rancher and we don't go to
his funeral. We don't do his family.
No, they're like me. We are more concerned right now,
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but I take our sequel. No one cares.
Brings me to a very important point.
Right. So the biggest loser losers in
this entire story is the parentsof the girls, right?
Yeah. Or there's just children who
were abducted, killed, whatever.Whatever.
The movie fully ignores them. Yeah.
In fact, not only does it ignorethem, it the most prominent
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parent was Kothamatlab indicted.They are fully.
Yeah, you. You are a pimp.
Yeah, and certainly we're supposed to be like, oh, what a
terrible person. Now we don't care about, but
what about the other like parents?
Exactly, not all of them, but you know, their parents like
it's still like they're still lost their kids like murder does
not is OK just because you are pimping at your children.
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Here's the bigger question, right?
So which is what I brought up earlier is that this movie
doesn't know if it wants to be acharacter piece or wants to be a
crime drama about a real life. In the end, it kind of lets you
know, it's like, oh, no, we don't care about the that's just
incidental to the story that we're telling, right?
It's more about the quote UN quote like investigation than
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any sort of resolution for, you know, the people who actually
suffered loss in this case because otherwise it wouldn't
end on this Rendo and it was instead end on the these people
who are left in the lodge because they're poor and they've
been denied justice. It's the movie pretends to care
about, but because it ends on this nonsense comic book E note,
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you're like you just told on yourself, you idiot.
Yeah. That a case the model, Yeah,
beyond the mega universe. Dinesh Vijankar shared.
You know, this could be Darling suddenly.
Like I think after 5 minutes after I finished this, I was
like this so little in this movie that they could actually
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make like a 20 minute short filmand convey everything.
It's simultaneously, it makes you think that that hard, 20
minutes. And then another part of me is
like, because there's so much that happens off screen.
Yeah. Did you like actually need like
15 hours for this? Yeah, like it's this is no way.
This is what they've done is like.
Justice. Yeah.
(21:51):
Not in that we can agree. Like forget, like making of it
even just think the pure length of it.
Like, I don't know what you're doing, but I don't know what
scenes you've come up with, likewhat you thought was important
to focus on, like getting randomscenes with like Ram Charan's
new boss in like some Rajasthan for two minutes, you know, like,
but when you as you spoke, like,we won't get arrested.
(22:12):
Yeah, it's so weird. Because like every 5 minutes in
that second-half, we're jumping.We're like going to that with
Harvani family. You spoke about those gang
people. Then we jump into this new ball.
Then we're jumping to Basi, and Basi got friend who's gonna
like, get him exonerated, like. And like, he's being
unsuspended, but when did that happen?
It happened off screen or what? It happened between Dusher and.
(22:34):
Great hum the pointless picture.Man, it's so bad.
I don't even want to do like what people will think about
this segment. I just want to end.
It up. Yeah, honestly, it's
surprisingly very dark. You know, because, because
simply because they spell everything out.
So the dude will like literally five times human meat cut down
(22:56):
and he should be like slowed out.
Yeah, we we believe you the most.
Times so like calm down and you know when people complain about
KOTT Beto Basgali or crying or like this is the movie now they
say we will just point to sector36.
This is what you talk. This is what you're complaining
about because this is so sloppily done where it's it
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feels jarring every time you know someone knows something
quote UN quote edgy, which is like eating human meat.
And it's almost as if the movie thinks it's cool. 5° here and
the movie would be like wow, this guy is so cool.
Yeah, maybe that will be the sequel the Quran message returns
because they have any other. Stars so.
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Hi, welcome to the lock tech. This week we're discussing the
new Indian Netflix movie Sector 36, which is based on a real
life case. Although it does say that it's
taking some care to liberty and start stars.
Because I say as this serial killer who prays on like where
he wants to and a cop play by Deepak doesn't really know what
he wants in life. Yeah.
What is? Why does it take like, I don't
(00:37):
know, 35 minutes or 40 minutes to like even?
Start. I don't know.
I was hoping that you would explain to me what.
Happens. Why?
Why are they taking so long for like everything?
35 minutes can happen I think inlike 5 minutes.
No the. The idea to fundamentally
introduce the cop character as, you know, someone who's
basically a villain is confusingto me because it points to
(01:02):
certain level of indecision. No, from on the movie's part
because it doesn't know if it wants to be like this character
study of this guy who's like a, you know, on like a redemption
arc, or if it wants to be a procedural based on a real life
incident. It doesn't know.
Yeah, that's. Like has no idea.
It's never really gets going. I just kept waiting for the
(01:22):
movie. Like please get going.
You know, finally, like when hisdaughter gets kidnapped and like
what a failed kidnapping and he like chases this guy.
Then he finally like he gets like a kick, right?
He's like, no, that that kick that product needs sometimes to
go on their adventure and gets that and the value like, OK,
fine. Maybe he will now pursue this
case like wholeheartedly. And five years later, he's told
by his boss twice that, you know, shut down and sit down.
(01:45):
And I'm like, OK, this movie. Is that the square?
No SO. I thought that the the so-called
kick was extremely clumsy, right, because was kid 2 minutes
for it like the father of the missing child is like had
confronted his way. Yeah, and he's like AAP Ki beti
NI ako named for a quadra and then literally 30 seconds later
(02:06):
so. It's like yeah I like the some
randoms have avoiding address being foreshadowing for us for
either. Yeah, I mean, so firstly, it's
clumsy, right? Because you're doing it in a
very like here it is. Let's just get it out of the
way, you know Which once again I'm asking why did you even
start this way then if you wanted to arrive at this point,
just start anyway, you know? Yeah.
Secondly, I've started in at theShera night.
(02:28):
This movie can start there. We don't need anything for that.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, secondly, it makes me
wonder if this mastermind killeris actually a mastermind, if
he's just like an idiot because but love, it's night time, but
it might as well have been broaddaylight, right?
Because it's like a crowded me land.
Yeah, because normally we show on, like in some tiny montage
(02:49):
that he kidnaps people, like, you know, when they're all known
on a street. And suddenly on this Dusshera
night, he's like, I'm going to role play, I'm going to act and
Don raw. And I'm like, that's play on the
nose, by the way. And then kidnap a girl in front
of everyone and then like suck at it so badly that people will
find you in like a minute. How much love not only is he in
like plain sight while he's committing this crime, though,
(03:12):
or like Uska Khudka Bap sees himYeah, it's not like some third
person saw and like found DeepakDum Biyar and said this, but not
even like your daughter has beenkidnapped, but some girl has
been kidnapped. Please no.
His own daughter he sees being kidnapped and then he chases
himself and then he it's so clumsy all the.
Direction of the chase scene is so clumsy.
(03:33):
Like it just feels like for fourtimes it feels like the guy is
actually very close to him and he can like grab him and put him
into the chase. But then then they'll cut to a
different shot and then he'll befar away.
And then I'm like Vijay Kabua. Yeah, once they turn a corner
and I think like Vikrant Massey bumps into the wall and the wall
moves because it's obviously like thermal call or something.
Like they can't even do such basic side of just like, you
(03:55):
know, ensuring that short to short distance between of
characters is equal distant. Yeah, yeah, or I mean, it's
because it's a chase, right? We need to kind of understand
that there is a distance. Like, we need to feel that, oh,
he's not going to get this dude,but 15 times you feel like.
It suddenly comes out of like breath and he collapses.
And I mean, even the kidnapping,the direction is so weird
(04:17):
because it makes it seem as if Deepak Dobiyar is like 5 feet
away. Yeah.
Exactly, it does feel like that all the time but then they'll
cut to a different shot and thenhe'd be like 15 feet away
because community the car masterhas to fall over something.
So if he's 5 feet away they'll be too close to the area catch
him. They intentionally put him
further away and like by you're breaking your own continuity at
this point. So I mean, see that this is like
(04:39):
on like just technical level, itdoesn't make sense.
But like even on like a story level, like, what was the
purpose of this, right? Just to like send the cop down
this path, right? Fine, you've decided to send him
down this path, but then immediately, like you said, the
the senior is like don't pursue this, right?
Yeah, and not. On then twice in like 4 minutes.
No, but the motivation is not there, right?
(05:00):
Because like until yesterday, you didn't care.
In fact, you were going so far as to say that you were going so
far as to bribe this person to not.
File a complaint. Exactly right.
And now one day later, you're willing to turn into a vigilant,
which is what he does, right? Get to suspend Hogan.
Now I'm going to turn into that guy from Pathalo.
Yeah, exactly. So I'm very confused.
(05:22):
Like what? What were you even going for,
Right? Am I supposed to assume that you
were going for one thing and then judge you on the basis of
that? Or am I supposed to assume that
you were going for the other thing as judge you on the basis
of like, I don't know what, Yeah.
It's, it's, it's all over the place.
And it's not like the guy like shows any information of like
police behaviour, right? Like he does like stuff of like
(05:44):
he just like you know, gets a confession or to someone like
randomly this guy just sitting in this office and he's like,
great, you're sitting here. I I connected 2 dots.
I saw a mobile phone Prem likai APE must be the same Prem and
then voila case solved. He didn't even connect the dots.
The phone presented itself to him.
Yeah, it falls into his lap. Like, literally.
(06:06):
His lap because his junior takesit out.
He's like, hey, phone is like, wait, what for?
Like 15 things that don't make sense need to have happened for
him to spot that phone. It it is after like this guy's
you know suspended and then the second-half of the movie starts
purely made for three universe is when he realizes again his
(06:27):
junior points out he that remember that compounder with
the ambulance Cusco award and then he's like Oh yeah, I never
interrogated that guy. I'm like, why didn't you so?
Not only is you know the cop guyweirdly written, the Vicar
Massey character is also like all over the.
Place. Because as you've already
(06:48):
discussed, you know that bit about his MO, it doesn't make
sense because in one scene he's being all secretive and in the
other he's doing it. But then the way that this
character behaves, it doesn't make sense to me, right?
As am I supposed to? Because on multiple occasions
the movie kind of turned into this Parichi kind of social
activism. Yeah, mode the showroom is at
(07:08):
the cop is like, oh, we are you want to start the three of us
and like 1.5 black people, etcetera, etcetera.
So I don't know if I'm suppose. And that's not an excuse, right.
Yeah, you're actively shirking your duty.
Exactly. So it does.
It's not like you're doing otherthings very well.
It's not like you have 10 pending cases and you have
refused another case, right? You want 0 basis.
(07:28):
Which I be there was very so I'mnot supposed to feel bad for.
And and like the same thing happens at the end where the
movie does. It's like this is to me the most
insane thing that the movie does.
Right in the middle of the interrogation.
The the dude who has already established to be I mean a
serial killer, realist cannibal even Yeah, and he's he goes
(07:51):
launch into this lecture about he's only.
Given to the audience when Ali was on screen, that boy.
Yeah. So it's like a lecture to us.
We don't need it. Anymore.
So I'm sitting there and I've watched this movie like
literally I finished 5 minutes ago and I must have seen this
(08:12):
scene like 35 minutes ago. I'm sitting there and I'm
wondering, are you seriously expecting me to nod along with
the cannibal female killer rightnow?
Like what's? That scene comes like out of the
blue, like almost, which is weird, like kind of movie, which
is like building to I guess, like open direction scene.
(08:33):
But then even then, it's just like, you know, because
everything's been haphazard, Like the guy doesn't really know
cop what to do, like how to pursue this case because he's
been multiple times he's been dismissed or suspended or
whatever gets a new boss. Like luckily it turns out to be
very like helpful, like is goingalong with him to like random
see, you know, to even see if like some witnesses or may or
(08:54):
something or like some complies.Then like he's standing there
and then the guys start blurtingaround like.
No, it's very strange because again, it's like even in like
long legs, right? Or any of those.
See the killer movies like 7 or whatever.
There is a procedural element, you know where the investigator
(09:15):
or the cop is, you know, going through the clues.
Yeah, they've been tracking, even if they've been ending up
at dead ends, they've been doingit for like months and months.
Yeah, and it's all building to this eventual kind of this
thing, right. But here, a lot of it happens
off screen. Yeah, right.
When the new boss comes and he'slike arrest Prem and and Deepak
(09:36):
Dobriyan is like, thank you, Sir.
We we cut to like them in the interrogation room.
Yeah. What about the arrest?
How are we not building to like,I would imagine that the arrest
is major thing. Yeah.
Did he come quietly? Did you have to?
What happened? I don't know.
And then Vikrant Massey kind of turns into a different character
altogether. Exactly.
He's a different movie. Like he's just like, because his
(09:58):
entire thing is like Jandi karo mujhe Kharzak like.
When did he turn into? So he was always playing this
character like some comic book villain, right?
Yeah. But then the movie's also trying
to tell us that name because he was abused.
So he is kind of, he's also doing the same thing, which is
grounded in reality, right? What the performance does not
(10:19):
make it seem like this person isgrounded in any sort of reality.
He is living in a fantasy world now in like the third active
world. You have tried to suggest to me
that this person is living in a fantasy world.
But then that should change Deepak Dobrial's approach,
right? He should be like, Oh my God,
this guy is completely unhinged.He's like long leg singing songs
at me. Now I have to talk to him like
(10:41):
he's long leg singing songs at me.
But Deepak Dobrial is playing itstraight.
Person is like so. They're taken aback.
He's like, Oh my God, how is he confessing about this?
I thought this would be harder for me.
And yeah, but like, a confessionwill not stand in court, right?
So you have to. So all of this is essentially
(11:02):
worthless. Yeah, right.
Whatever you're saying. Because the charge, you have no
evidence, right? You have to find the evidence
which the movie kind of jumps into I guess.
Last 30 minutes, man. Which also like it jumps into
like the next scene after the interrogation.
Like whatever these after that they just arrive at the
investigation again through his health.
But like. And it's like, I don't know what
kind of friends they're doing, but they're letting the killer
(11:24):
touch on the bones. So I'm not sure what you going
to do with the bones after that.I don't know but then like
screen so far. Montage.
We are just like they're playinga song they wrote like the hard
jail, whatever, like being denied stuff.
And it's like, yeah, because youhaven't established this, like,
aesthetic anywhere in the movie,right?
It just says house or like. Whatever.
(11:45):
I think 75 minutes by then I have not seen out a single piece
of text on your screen. And certainly now this text on
screen, I'm like this doesn't isthis like some other editor You
had multiple editors who made like this, You did some other
job on this. I don't know, the movie kind of.
I mean, yeah, the movie doesn't.Reek of like post production,
like, you know, like mismanagement, like, yeah, Joe,
what what arrived from like the site?
They were like, this is clearly garbage.
(12:07):
We don't know how to make a movie out of this.
Let's just rearrange scenes in random order.
I mean, yeah. So see, initially, I'm not going
to lie, like should look up on this minute.
I thought that there was something interesting going on,
especially when when the when the cop kind of introduces
himself with this big voice overwrite.
Yeah. So I was like, OK, so you're
trying to, you are trying to saysomething and trying to do
(12:30):
commentary. You're trying to commentary.
And the character is obviously in his introductory scene, he's
turning down this guy, right, who's very clearly affected,
like his daughter is missing what he's like in Mujini Karna.
Yeah. He walks into the police station
and he accepts like a box of money.
Yeah, So I thought, Acha, that'san interesting way to approach
this story because I wouldn't have thought that you would do
this. Then obviously, the movie kind
(12:51):
of drastically turns in the next30 minutes, and then it
drastically turns again. And all those issues that we've
spoken about, what, it's not like it seemed entirely
worthless in those first few minutes, right?
So I'm not sure what they shot and how badly it was botched or
if this was always going to be, you know, the weird approach
that they were going to take. Yeah, I want to be like amazed
(13:11):
if like everything we just saw is in the form of the written
script. I would be amazed if there is a
written script honestly like with these things.
There is a guy. There is a guy's bad story,
yeah. He goes how much of his work is
like was reworked on the set. Like being Abhi Vikrant, now I'm
(13:34):
going to play him like this. Yeah, I was like, you know,
Vikrant has text 1 evening. He's watching some other
Hollywood thing where you're like, Oh my God, this guy's
amazing singers. Hannibal.
I'm going to go tomorrow and play Hannibal Lecter now, even
though my character has been something else.
Yeah, and nobody told Deepak Dobre and you can see it on his
face. Deepak always like what?
(13:54):
Stun silence. It's like that Joker showed up
in front of him. Completely without warning this
word finish. I was like.
Bend into a different universe. So there is that other angle
also, right, of the rich businessman boss person, right,
which the movie. That's where the movie is very
(14:15):
on the nose. I mean, it's on the nose
otherwise also, but this is super on the nose when the rich
person has connections and he gets off and you know it,
obviously. When the confusion thing
happened and I was like, so donewith this, I actually paused for
like a second. I was like, everyone could like
we done. And I saw 38 minutes.
I was like, Oh my God, 38 minutes after this confession
scene, where's the movie gonna go?
(14:35):
And then we find out with this like whole random like tangents.
They're going one of like how Bussy will get involved but then
Bussy will get out of it, but then the guy gets dismissed
again and then he will go on another tangent to find some
evidence which he got out of Prem and then that will end up
somewhere and then he will end up dying and then.
(14:55):
And then there's some. Yeah.
Then there's some Haryanvi family, yeah.
Which that's a random call to like chop off this dude.
Yeah, what and the? Points of advertised.
I don't know what evidence they're burned, but there's a
shot where they're burning. Evidence, yeah, like I don't
understand because a lot like the bodies are found in the
ditch, right And the bodies yeahis it just a separate like organ
(15:18):
trade situation which I. Don't know, but like at least
show those shots right of these guys going whenever they
wherever they went, acquired these like bodies to like born
in evidence and like save busty some, I'm guessing.
It doesn't. It's very confusing.
Also the the the parallels to the real case, right?
Because from what I remember, these both of these people were.
Acquitted even the main. Serial killer.
(15:40):
Yeah. Yeah, both of these people were
from. Lack of evidence.
Yeah, some nonsense cake case. Don't say so.
Who investigate Nikki this time,Which is.
The CBI is called IBI in this movie.
I know it's like. No, but the movie itself is not
set in, it's set in Delhi, right?
Which is weird to me because thecase happened in Noida and it's
(16:05):
very obviously based on one case.
I mean, all the details are the same, it's the characters are
the same, the premise is the same, resolution is the same
except the cop getting killed orwhatever.
But it's weird that I mean, what?
Like Yogi? What's the?
I don't know, does this Delhi even have sectors?
So some colonies might, but it'svery unusual.
(16:28):
Has kept the sector 3016 the title literally, but then.
Changed but it's like location that are in Delhi, but that is
like I don't know why they did that because it's the aerial
shots are Noida, which is the other weird thing right because.
But as Delhi Police investigating always.
Delhi Police investigating. It's very weird because
(16:48):
geographically how they show thebungalow and this thing, it's
very similar to the real place, which is funnily in love like 5
minutes away from where I work and it's anyway, but it's it's
similar right with ditches rightthere.
The house is right there. They've designed it in a way
where it kind of resembles the real thing, where this is not
(17:09):
set in the same city, which is the odd.
Thing. Yeah, very cute.
But it's one of it's like Delhi crime season 2.
That's how sloppy this is. Because there's like full I
don't think I. Never watched that.
Bullet Dodge. Yeah, I think I had like a red
people's like headlines of saying like nothing like Season
1. And also the fact that Richmond
had walked up. I was like this is not going to
be good. This the body I have seen story
(17:31):
was enough to convince. Yeah, apparently they made it
twice or something, which I wouldn't be surprised if they've
made this twice also. I would, you know, why can't
just things like every time we mentioned, why can't things just
go away like Bobberry? So if you can bury something
that has cost 100 crore, you canbury this thing which I'm sure
cost like 3-5 or 10. Which are anywhere releasing as
(17:51):
a favor to Dinesh vision becauseyou want like 3 or something
yeah. Like exactly you're just doing
it to be like can do a relationship with just pay like
do a kill fee like a pass a low because I'm because nobody has
that's cool. Now continue because this movie
has the to like Oscar sequel like when am I reading it right
(18:13):
alongside in the end. No, no, yeah, there is the other
dude who's been like passed overfor a for a promotion is
suddenly like handed. Evidence.
Yeah. So like, it happens like six
months later. So it's like, I don't know who
sent it, but I'm guessing it's like they're hinting at a new
case. Or the same case like this guy
will crack it now get to the bottom but.
Send the evidence. Six months later, the.
(18:34):
Ghost of Deepak, I don't know, so I was trying to.
Follow I was like it can't be Ram Charan because he's dead and
even if he send a package to arrive Max even with India
postcard annuity issues in Max 3DS not six months.
It doesn't make sense. Also, I don't know who that dude
is who gets the package at the end.
(18:56):
He's one of the other juniors who's managing 50,000 people.
Yeah, so. That's there are two, right?
One gets promoted and the other is this dude right?
Yeah, that is this dude. Yeah.
I don't think they've appointed a third guy now.
We. Know nothing about this guy.
No. Why am I supposed to be like 02?
Thank God. Sequel with the with this guy.
Yeah, it's not like Joseph Gordon Levitt in Dark Knight
(19:17):
Rises exactly when you like. Spend half the movie.
With him, yeah. Who is 5 minutes the movie?
With him. Hadn't fully building up towards
see you next time in two years, yeah.
Who's like no one cares about like rancher and we don't go to
his funeral. We don't do his family.
No, they're like me. We are more concerned right now,
(19:37):
but I take our sequel. No one cares.
Brings me to a very important point.
Right. So the biggest loser losers in
this entire story is the parentsof the girls, right?
Yeah. Or there's just children who
were abducted, killed, whatever.Whatever.
The movie fully ignores them. Yeah.
In fact, not only does it ignorethem, it the most prominent
(19:59):
parent was Kothamatlab indicted.They are fully.
Yeah, you. You are a pimp.
Yeah, and certainly we're supposed to be like, oh, what a
terrible person. Now we don't care about, but
what about the other like parents?
Exactly, not all of them, but you know, their parents like
it's still like they're still lost their kids like murder does
not is OK just because you are pimping at your children.
(20:22):
Here's the bigger question, right?
So which is what I brought up earlier is that this movie
doesn't know if it wants to be acharacter piece or wants to be a
crime drama about a real life. In the end, it kind of lets you
know, it's like, oh, no, we don't care about the that's just
incidental to the story that we're telling, right?
It's more about the quote UN quote like investigation than
(20:45):
any sort of resolution for, you know, the people who actually
suffered loss in this case because otherwise it wouldn't
end on this Rendo and it was instead end on the these people
who are left in the lodge because they're poor and they've
been denied justice. It's the movie pretends to care
about, but because it ends on this nonsense comic book E note,
(21:10):
you're like you just told on yourself, you idiot.
Yeah. That a case the model, Yeah,
beyond the mega universe. Dinesh Vijankar shared.
You know, this could be Darling suddenly.
Like I think after 5 minutes after I finished this, I was
like this so little in this movie that they could actually
(21:31):
make like a 20 minute short filmand convey everything.
It's simultaneously, it makes you think that that hard, 20
minutes. And then another part of me is
like, because there's so much that happens off screen.
Yeah. Did you like actually need like
15 hours for this? Yeah, like it's this is no way.
This is what they've done is like.
Justice. Yeah.
(21:51):
Not in that we can agree. Like forget, like making of it
even just think the pure length of it.
Like, I don't know what you're doing, but I don't know what
scenes you've come up with, likewhat you thought was important
to focus on, like getting randomscenes with like Ram Charan's
new boss in like some Rajasthan for two minutes, you know, like,
but when you as you spoke, like,we won't get arrested.
(22:12):
Yeah, it's so weird. Because like every 5 minutes in
that second-half, we're jumping.We're like going to that with
Harvani family. You spoke about those gang
people. Then we jump into this new ball.
Then we're jumping to Basi, and Basi got friend who's gonna
like, get him exonerated, like. And like, he's being
unsuspended, but when did that happen?
It happened off screen or what? It happened between Dusher and.
(22:34):
Great hum the pointless picture.Man, it's so bad.
I don't even want to do like what people will think about
this segment. I just want to end.
It up. Yeah, honestly, it's
surprisingly very dark. You know, because, because
simply because they spell everything out.
So the dude will like literally five times human meat cut down
(22:56):
and he should be like slowed out.
Yeah, we we believe you the most.
Times so like calm down and you know when people complain about
KOTT Beto Basgali or crying or like this is the movie now they
say we will just point to sector36.
This is what you talk. This is what you're complaining
about because this is so sloppily done where it's it
(23:18):
feels jarring every time you know someone knows something
quote UN quote edgy, which is like eating human meat.
And it's almost as if the movie thinks it's cool. 5° here and
the movie would be like wow, this guy is so cool.
Yeah, maybe that will be the sequel the Quran message returns
because they have any other. Stars so.
(23:42):
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