October 16, 2024 • 21 mins
Stree 2 is an overlong, unfunny, and ultimately unnecessary sequel that has no idea how to deliver scares or laughs.
Every scene in the film goes on for too long, the jokes are repeated to the point of redundancy, and some of the diversions are baffling to behold. Why is Akshay Kumar in this? How old is Tamannaah Bhatia’s character? Why are there no rules to this universe?
We discuss the film’s flawed feminism, its boring tone, and that CGI-fuelled climax that goes on forever.
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(00:16):
Hi I'm. Otero and I'm Ronano welcome.
To the log tech this week we're discussing 32, which is now on
streaming, which is also somehowthe highest costing Hindi movie
of this year and one of the top 10 Indian movies of all time.
Yeah, what is happening, everyone?
Baffling. I watched it all happened and I
was wondering where? How could a movie make this much
money and have like 0 cultural impact?
(00:38):
Like nobody around me was talking, I mean.
Nobody had our two. No, but at least people talk
about that. Yeah, maybe for like a week.
I don't remember any long lasting conversation without our
two. Possible, But this one, though,
I didn't even know anybody who'dseen it.
At least when Avatar, you knew that your parents were going to
watch it. Like, it was that kind of movie.
Yeah. So it at least crossed over in
(00:58):
that way. This one, like, forget people
discussing it like nobody I kneweven watched it.
So I'm. Yeah.
I remember any like pre release hype So what This movie had
great word of mouth. I remember just before it was
supposed to come out, they were very, very confident.
And you would hear that, oh, this is going to do some crazy
business, Which was fine becausethe first one people seem to
(01:22):
really like. And it's one of those movies
that kind of grew in prominence after streaming also, even
though it was a hit already. But then, yeah, at least at
least people spoke about that movie, you know, for whatever
it's worth. You know, they they decided it
was popular enough to kind of start a franchise of like shared
films. But I don't know, this one, it
(01:43):
felt. And but when you watch it, you
kind of understand why. Like how do you even discuss
this movie with your friends? Like what is even the take away?
From like it's like sometimes the Stein will do like 4
different like tones in the samescene and you can tell it's
doing that because the soundtrack will literally switch
to tell you. It's also like not gonna like be
(02:09):
quiet about this. Like we are now had a background
doing about like you know like slapstick comedy.
Now we will like make it like streak or whatever, like
original theme drag of like, Oh yeah, now this action.
And then it was like I literallysome same short, well seen menus
change the angle and you just focus on one character and you
slip and you're like, what is going on?
No, but. This is the classic like
(02:30):
Bollywood thing, right? Where like genre mashups aren't
ever that it's it's like they they do drama and then they stop
the drama and then they do the comedy and then they stop the
comedy and then they do the horror.
As opposed to like, combining the genres and then being like,
sure, something you know, yeah, that you probably know about
experience before. It's not a horror comedy in the
(02:50):
strictest sense. It's horror and comedy.
Yeah, it's a horror. Comma comedy.
It's like a genre tanks. It's like we can only do one at
1:00. At a time.
So I'll be horror there. Then next shot by comedy and
then duck shot me again. Horror, yeah.
And honestly, I don't remember like you watched the first one
recently, but I watched it when maybe when it came on streaming,
(03:13):
which was at least five years ago at this point, right?
Don't remember much of it. Don't remember liking it.
Which is 1. Like I think was my issue was
that I had obviously experiencedthe movie only from people
talking about it or whatever hasbeen said in the public domain.
So when I went to watch it, I was like expecting something
half a decent, if not like more than that.
(03:33):
Big mistake and. How did that turn?
Out I think to be confronted with the movie, which like was
probably like, you know, gender flipping some norms for like 5
minutes of it and that other like 150 minutes was just like
Raj Kwar Rao's Vicky, like pining after this woman.
It's like the verse like chemistry or relationship like
or childish thing possible. And I'm just like, hey, what is
(03:54):
this movie? What was it known for?
And it's the same with this one,right?
Because the weird, oddly creepy romance happens like for the
first hour or so. And let me, I mean, we'll
obviously get to the fact that he's spinning after a ghost, but
the whatever the the core feminism of it happens like
(04:15):
quite late in the game. I feel right When he goes to
meet that group of women who I'mnot sure if they were supposed
to be sex workers or not. The one because its.
But he is. And its implied right because
the father is like he does Jar and Maze Karne, whatever,
whatever, whatever and then he goes to this outcast community
of sorts living in some sort of Khandar and then they're like
(04:36):
you have to do something becauseyou're the chosen one.
I'm like Excel and he cups chosen 1.
And. Then towards the end, obviously,
he becomes like King Arthur or something.
Wow. Which is everything.
In the end, like when they do like full like confrontation,
you know when they all stand in like 1 Q as like the hero short
of a superhero movie, I started feeling it before they enter and
they start confronting that guy inside his lair or whatever,
(04:57):
like which is had like full. They even use that dialogue
there. It's full like coded stranger
things everywhere. You know, like his lair is like
called the upside down at one point.
These people are clearly like, you know, one of them.
Like I think Jana is clearly like the I forgot the dude who's
like gets caused in single things.
He's clearly that 3 is clearly 11.
You know, like it's full. Like you can tell everything has
(05:19):
been like copied like on like a vibe level.
Like this is what we're trying to aim, except our characters
are like, I don't know, in their30s?
That makes sense because I was wondering right, So before the
release, I don't know if you know this they, I mean, they had
like a poster which was copied from Stranger Things, right?
And that happens very often withthese movies and people complain
(05:39):
about a little bit and nobody islike, really, it doesn't really
hold anybody's attention for more than or two, right.
And the people who involved, I think were just like, oh, it's
not our fault. Marketing, whatever, whatever.
I haven't seen Stranger Things, so I have no idea.
But now that you say it, it makes all the sense in the
world. Like, are you saying the finale
is because I, I remember seeing the clips from that season 5
(06:02):
thing, right? With the song and everybody
running and all that. 5 three months.
And four, yeah, yeah. With the with the famous song,
right. And so, yeah, have they really
just this copied Stranger Things?
Yeah, but. Basically like, you know, it's
like patched it on they're like we wanted like 1 character for
everyone and that's like every other scene.
I feel like that only because even if anything, which is funny
(06:22):
thing is then straighter thing, at least the relationship is
also childish because they're actually children and you know
like the main guy. I'm forgetting the appeals.
I guess it's been do now, but he's just pining after 11 the
entire time. It's the same thing happening
here and there's. A.
There's a random don't like who's just like doing his own
thing. And then obviously they have
like, a full, like, you know, a villain who's always like,
(06:44):
basically living inside the underworld.
Audible. Sure, but here to is take grown
ass inseldude fighting after a ghost which is.
This makes it weird, right? Like why can't you, if you
actually copy it, just find child actors and then make it
about like teenagers at least? No.
But this day, this is like retroactively kind of shoehound
(07:04):
and thing, right? Because the first I Not only is
the franchise itself retroactively like shared
universe because Rajkumar Rao also starred in Rookie as a
different character. Which you like really confuse
the record of me because I have not seen any of these movies
until this week. So I started some read up,
research another coach like I'm knowledgeable on the podcast.
So I started reading. I'm like, wait, he's also in
(07:26):
that room. How is that that movie part of
the scene was there. Which is so baffling because
they so only Bahia I think was the one that was from ground up
designed to be a part of the series.
The others were just tacked on. Like post production where they
were like, how do we like get more money out of these movies?
Let's just announce that part ofthe scene, you know is.
Yeah, because Ruhito is, like I said, like he's playing a
(07:48):
different character altogether, which is really confusing.
But in Munjo also, there's no like, overt connection.
Like I saw like almost all of that movie and I couldn't like,
spot any overt kind of cameo or reference or anything like that.
So it felt like, oh, we'll just like, pretend that this is part
of the universe and maybe there's a cameo at the end, Who
knows? It doesn't take.
That is not very difficult, right?
(08:09):
This one, however, is again likehere the Varun Dhawan comes.
Yeah, full crossover scenes, although I can't tell like in
the finale. Is he actually here or is it
like a CGI body development? No, that looked the human Varun
Dhawan. That looked real.
Yeah, no, I'm saying the one that is in the dance songs
obviously is very real. But like for a minute when he
comes like in the finale, obviously the the wolf version
(08:31):
is like so fake. It's like you can tell CJ but
like because for a minute I likewhen he was like a lying on the
ground as the human version, I was like he looked like it's
like the other shot is from quite far.
He's trying to like, you know, he jumps and transforms into
like a wolf. That has to be CG.
Yeah, so. I was like, is that even the
earlier version like a double? That's why they're shooting in
Room of Heart. But that may be.
Impossible. It just looked fake.
(08:52):
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised,which is odd considering that
you know, it is what this is theleast that you could do if
you're making a shared whatever they get one person.
But they only got him for the songs and he's not available for
like when they're shooting the action scene in front of I'm
guessing blue screen because nothing in that underworld is
real. Thing not I mean, even I'd go so
(09:13):
far as to say that even the human beings in that finale are
barely human beings. I don't know what is happening.
Everybody's just, it's quite confusing, right?
Because you're not like you've set up the lower or no.
But let's like announce like they have new powers.
I'm like, OK, I guess I'll just roll with it now because like
you keep inventing this stuff like every minute.
Yeah, because initially she saidthat I have to be sacrificed, I
(09:35):
have to die and then the mind that for two minutes and then
they. Become like Harry Bird Dementos
basically. Yeah, and then she's like, I
have this hair that is powerful,which apparently she took from
the earlier 3 and now what I. Worked on her mother.
And the mother, she summons the mother, and then she's like,
(09:56):
which way? No, no, no, no.
You need to use that chaku in the stone.
That's going to solve our problems.
And then when he does that, no, no, no, you have to cut his head
in a certain way and only. Things like it just backfires
and they like multiply and just like OK, like.
How am I even supposed to be invested in this thing if you
(10:17):
keep cheating me every two seconds?
I'm anyway struggling to understand their words like.
The sound of 1st 15 or something, we're talking about
the final third and you have lost me like countless times
until this point. You have, I'm struggling to like
get through this movie, which has like gone in seven different
directions for the 1st two acts.Yeah, I so long.
Every scene in this movie is, I would argue, too long.
(10:39):
Literally every scene. And between every scene there is
filler, right? It's not like this.
There's a scene which is filler,this filler inside the sea.
Why can't they just do away withthat whole Sharma nonsense?
I feel like not all not to admitall though.
Why? Yeah, they would be a song.
To put a song right, to be like,to put her, make her part of the
plot of like, how do we entice him?
Why he's been coming every nighthimself.
(11:02):
Why do you need to entice if thedoors been showing up with
abducting people non-stop and apparently it says like you
know, height of his powers Maha puja thing.
He's going to show up no matter what you do.
Yeah, you don't need to find like exceptionally Pretty Woman
to dance and like who like. If I really.
Think about small. Has an insane age gap with like
Pankaj Party's character and just struggling to think of
their past relationship how it is not like inappropriate.
(11:25):
I'm confused. So is it So?
Let's assume that they were bothconsenting adults when it began.
But are we supposed to believe that either Punk, which Bhatti
is younger than many years to be, or if Tamanna Bhatti is
older than she appears to me? I'm sure she must.
I'm sure she must not have been OK with this pairing.
There's no women here, no matterhow much I minimize it.
There's at least 15 years between them, right?
(11:47):
Yeah, it seems. Like if you said they're
considering adults, the first time they met was like she's 18
and he's like 33 minimum. Which is still beyond.
Exactly. So it's like, why could he just
like hire an older actress? Why does it have to be Tamara?
You could just hire an older actor and then I don't have any
of these questions. Because they wanted screw the
(12:08):
character, or they wanted somebody to dance.
Which is the my other problem with this movie, right?
This one, and the first one is that there's too much lecherous
and energy. That's ironic, considering what
it wants to do. Exactly, I cannot deal with the
amount of lectures I read because this this this item
number happens and you know, after the item number do Ricky
(12:30):
do will complain that his love interest has abandoned him.
But during the item number, he himself has forgotten she exists
and he's dancing this new woman now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fully dancing.
Everybody dancing. In fact, the director makes a
cameo also, and he's like being a Chichwara next to her, which,
yeah. So in the 1st movie she was wiki
because you know like he hasn't actually like started quote UN
quote a relationship with like 3when he starts starting dancing
(12:52):
with Nora Fatehi. But in this one, like he
considers himself like purely inlove with this woman right at
this point. So therefore them to then hip
abandoned everything and be like, I'm gonna dance with the
literally like, you know, make suggestive gestures.
I'm just like, keep you. But say I mean on paper they are
using this character as like bait.
Right bait, which is. How I mean, see, it would be
(13:17):
fine if you aren't pretending tobe a fabulous movie, right?
Yeah. I'd be like, whatever, this is
what these dudes do. I don't get.
But now you've gone out of your way to be like 90, but three is
protector, etcetera, etcetera. But also Rajkumar Rao is a
chosen one. I was like, OK, did you just?
Anyway, very confused. Also, if this movie had been
(13:38):
like an hour and 30 minutes, I have full faith that I wouldn't
have minded it this much, because that's true.
Because it's been like moving forward all the time.
Yeah, because that's, it's not, I'm not watching these movies
for like some major like, life lesson commentary, Yeah, or
anything. You know, it's these people are
amusing, you know, in short doses, whatever.
(13:59):
But then everything is just so stretched to the point where the
movie is like actively like challenging you to.
Are you still interested? Are you still interested?
I'm like, which is why there's away to stop that because they
stretch everything too long. They're like people must have
forgotten what we said. Pash went by way.
So in the next scene, which willcome 5 minutes later, we must
repeat the same thing like word for word in.
Fairness, they are right. I kept zoning out like each
(14:23):
other and then every 10 minutes I would be I would like look up
and be like, Oh yeah, I basically get what's happening.
I don't need to be given as information.
You have to defeat the headless to got it.
Nothing else really matters. It's only the end where I was
like totally taken by surprise because firstly though, I wasn't
(14:43):
expecting like full CGI stuff, right?
Because yeah, it's been a while since like, Master Northern.
Bollywood doesn't normally do this, at least thankfully
compared to Hollywood. Thankfully, I mean for let's
praise the, you know, thank the gods, keep basic because
imagine. Bollywood like Hollywood, every
3rd movie ends in some blue versus orange computer fest.
(15:08):
Barely afford and they're still doing it.
You know, it takes like courage to be honest, like films like
Fighter and stuff and you can't afford a single like.
You can't forced to lend you one.
Like full film is like dogfights, incredible courage,
delusion. But this one though is crazy at
1.01. Like this Sarkata dude is
(15:31):
fighting with the Bhedia dude and then there are three like
heads floating in the air and the entire backdrop is like CJ.
I'm like, Oh my God, what is that?
Yeah, that thing is real industry.
It's I would have preferred if this movie was more annoying to
be honest because even then I'd be like I try to get 2 1/2 hours
of spin at least I'm feeling something.
Like Kalki? Yeah, like actively like I'm
(15:54):
yelling at the screen, getting angry, you know, How dare you?
How dare you. I'm prepared to kind of defend
even somebody who's even 5% better.
I'll like stand by them and be like team who because Kalki was
so bad. This one, I'm just like, it's
totally. It feels like a waste of time,
like there's no other way to describe it, Like nothing else
I've taken away from it other than I've lost.
(16:16):
Time and then they want to like do obviously full crossover
because I'm guessing like this is how you extend like the
lifeline of a franchise that's going nowhere.
Like are we all? But I guess the camera and I
mean like there are at least what, three different scenes?
And I'm sure one of them is likenot Canon because it makes no
sense if it's canonical. To be honest, I checked out.
I have no idea. Yeah, I.
Did but I'm just like I was trying to keep.
I was like. Do you mean?
(16:37):
For this scene to like be this way because they're then getting
introduced. One scene literally like he's
trying to like take over. Like what is happening?
Are they thinking like they wantto like Rajkot House Contractors
ending or something? And they want one they want to
take over. So then they're like, yeah, but
it's also now in love with the same woman as the other dude.
This is almost like that. I don't know if you read the
some, I think Guardian or something, kind of you talk with
(16:58):
the people who made the franchise, this HBO show, right?
They were talking about how it'sbased on like actual stories.
They were from people who workedon Marvel and stuff.
And the one down the story. Yeah, yeah.
And one of the stories was like,they shoot different versions
with different actors, differentbackgrounds and.
Just in case like you know like some actor could show later on
(17:19):
so you can like replace it in post production.
This is that version I guess is.Like really expecting, you know,
like Rajput, Ravi, you get in some controversy like two months
down the line or take Sarwadi, ask for that too much money for
3/3. They could just like replace his
body and his face with like on it.
Yeah, they're fully announced. Also can any Varun Dhavar is
going to I don't know Stocks 3 now.
(17:41):
Yeah, basically like I feel likethat only he's like they kick
over the franchise or anything like that.
I don't know what's happening orlike this is like a set up
basically I guess to put Shraddha Kapoor also in BDR to
whatever if they want to do thatat some point.
But it comes across as, you know, here's the only way we
know how to kind of cross these characters over is by having
them fight over the same woman, as opposed to the meeting other
things we could do with like a goddamn werewolf.
(18:03):
Yeah, and for like for for a movie to actually have like I
think for of all the annoying characters, like at least the
good thing which character is she's not annoying.
Like she's sometimes very part of the movie.
She stands in the background andsays nothing.
But at least you have a character who's like
simultaneous sometimes the love interest and sometimes also like
the semi villain now also semi semi hero.
(18:25):
But no, they would finally reduce find any way to reduce
the female character to a unit of character to be like no,
she's the common thing to fight over between two mates.
What about you? If only she was slightly better
at her job. It was.
It was kind of. That's bland.
The shape. To watch, Yeah, because most of
the time he's also like giving instructions like Vicki tome
vahajana hai, Vicki hame Ek banabadega.
(18:48):
She's 2 like exposition. Lord yeah character.
And she has like 4 introductions.
I'm like what is happening now? Like literally 4 times they're
introduced he introducing her. He like forgot the like already
done. This is the.
Character, which is what we would like to describe as that
color nonsense where they literally forgot that Bubble
(19:08):
Khan had been introduced. 5 minutes, yeah.
Like let's do a reveal, right? Which part are you shooting?
Where was the continuity? Was where was the director
Director anyway? What are the biggest hits of all
time? We haven't touched upon the
three 3 setup or the middle of the entrance of like Akshay
(19:29):
Kumar. Oh my God, how do we forget
Akshay Kumar I. Think they were like kind of
supper of the memory that we that happened.
I completely forgot he was playing some borderline like
rapey dude, right? Yeah, basically what what was
happening. And then somehow like merged
with what? Like Shah Jah or something?
I honestly I I watched it and it's not been that long but I
have no idea what happened in the 10 minute stretch.
(19:52):
He went to basically like, I think he's the I don't know if
he's the author or if he's like somehow connected to the book
that's been like at the basis ofthis movie for like the two.
Movies. That's all I remember.
Is that taken to some asylum andthen confront the dude and like
that's it? Can you just imagine how little
juice Akshay Kumar has left? Because yeah, it was.
(20:12):
I checked. It can be.
It can be fun. Like the rock energy of like,
you know, he's like fined everything thing in life Kuchni
or Hollywood make. So then he starts going back to
fast and shooters. I can't even imagine because I.
It's like I'm thinking of every franchise now.
It's like Major Kuchni or I manymovies I will take.
What franchise is working post 3is working?
His function in this movie was to grab your attention, someone
(20:35):
you like, doing comedy and stuff.
But he's like, what's the big name to like, you know, like
Spock it up. That's what like horror also
does like, you know, do like a cameo with like you do someone
for like 5 minutes, like someonewill show up and then he comes
again. I don't know what happened the
end. Like he opens some Matka in the
end and he becomes I said he's coming to the next villain or
something. But now that I care.
When did this happen? I think like right after the
(20:56):
crickets or whatever it was job.Oh, I wasn't watching.
Yeah, but just skip whatever at that point.
Then I had a full. I checked up and they started
dancing together and I was like OK got it, bye bye.
Apparently there's more movie after.
That there is multiple more scenes.
Oh God, yeah. But whatever.
(21:16):
Not again. Right, time for that.
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Hi I'm. Otero and I'm Ronano welcome.
To the log tech this week we're discussing 32, which is now on
streaming, which is also somehowthe highest costing Hindi movie
of this year and one of the top 10 Indian movies of all time.
Yeah, what is happening, everyone?
Baffling. I watched it all happened and I
was wondering where? How could a movie make this much
money and have like 0 cultural impact?
(00:38):
Like nobody around me was talking, I mean.
Nobody had our two. No, but at least people talk
about that. Yeah, maybe for like a week.
I don't remember any long lasting conversation without our
two. Possible, But this one, though,
I didn't even know anybody who'dseen it.
At least when Avatar, you knew that your parents were going to
watch it. Like, it was that kind of movie.
Yeah. So it at least crossed over in
(00:58):
that way. This one, like, forget people
discussing it like nobody I kneweven watched it.
So I'm. Yeah.
I remember any like pre release hype So what This movie had
great word of mouth. I remember just before it was
supposed to come out, they were very, very confident.
And you would hear that, oh, this is going to do some crazy
business, Which was fine becausethe first one people seem to
(01:22):
really like. And it's one of those movies
that kind of grew in prominence after streaming also, even
though it was a hit already. But then, yeah, at least at
least people spoke about that movie, you know, for whatever
it's worth. You know, they they decided it
was popular enough to kind of start a franchise of like shared
films. But I don't know, this one, it
(01:43):
felt. And but when you watch it, you
kind of understand why. Like how do you even discuss
this movie with your friends? Like what is even the take away?
From like it's like sometimes the Stein will do like 4
different like tones in the samescene and you can tell it's
doing that because the soundtrack will literally switch
to tell you. It's also like not gonna like be
(02:09):
quiet about this. Like we are now had a background
doing about like you know like slapstick comedy.
Now we will like make it like streak or whatever, like
original theme drag of like, Oh yeah, now this action.
And then it was like I literallysome same short, well seen menus
change the angle and you just focus on one character and you
slip and you're like, what is going on?
No, but. This is the classic like
(02:30):
Bollywood thing, right? Where like genre mashups aren't
ever that it's it's like they they do drama and then they stop
the drama and then they do the comedy and then they stop the
comedy and then they do the horror.
As opposed to like, combining the genres and then being like,
sure, something you know, yeah, that you probably know about
experience before. It's not a horror comedy in the
(02:50):
strictest sense. It's horror and comedy.
Yeah, it's a horror. Comma comedy.
It's like a genre tanks. It's like we can only do one at
1:00. At a time.
So I'll be horror there. Then next shot by comedy and
then duck shot me again. Horror, yeah.
And honestly, I don't remember like you watched the first one
recently, but I watched it when maybe when it came on streaming,
(03:13):
which was at least five years ago at this point, right?
Don't remember much of it. Don't remember liking it.
Which is 1. Like I think was my issue was
that I had obviously experiencedthe movie only from people
talking about it or whatever hasbeen said in the public domain.
So when I went to watch it, I was like expecting something
half a decent, if not like more than that.
(03:33):
Big mistake and. How did that turn?
Out I think to be confronted with the movie, which like was
probably like, you know, gender flipping some norms for like 5
minutes of it and that other like 150 minutes was just like
Raj Kwar Rao's Vicky, like pining after this woman.
It's like the verse like chemistry or relationship like
or childish thing possible. And I'm just like, hey, what is
(03:54):
this movie? What was it known for?
And it's the same with this one,right?
Because the weird, oddly creepy romance happens like for the
first hour or so. And let me, I mean, we'll
obviously get to the fact that he's spinning after a ghost, but
the whatever the the core feminism of it happens like
(04:15):
quite late in the game. I feel right When he goes to
meet that group of women who I'mnot sure if they were supposed
to be sex workers or not. The one because its.
But he is. And its implied right because
the father is like he does Jar and Maze Karne, whatever,
whatever, whatever and then he goes to this outcast community
of sorts living in some sort of Khandar and then they're like
(04:36):
you have to do something becauseyou're the chosen one.
I'm like Excel and he cups chosen 1.
And. Then towards the end, obviously,
he becomes like King Arthur or something.
Wow. Which is everything.
In the end, like when they do like full like confrontation,
you know when they all stand in like 1 Q as like the hero short
of a superhero movie, I started feeling it before they enter and
they start confronting that guy inside his lair or whatever,
(04:57):
like which is had like full. They even use that dialogue
there. It's full like coded stranger
things everywhere. You know, like his lair is like
called the upside down at one point.
These people are clearly like, you know, one of them.
Like I think Jana is clearly like the I forgot the dude who's
like gets caused in single things.
He's clearly that 3 is clearly 11.
You know, like it's full. Like you can tell everything has
(05:19):
been like copied like on like a vibe level.
Like this is what we're trying to aim, except our characters
are like, I don't know, in their30s?
That makes sense because I was wondering right, So before the
release, I don't know if you know this they, I mean, they had
like a poster which was copied from Stranger Things, right?
And that happens very often withthese movies and people complain
(05:39):
about a little bit and nobody islike, really, it doesn't really
hold anybody's attention for more than or two, right.
And the people who involved, I think were just like, oh, it's
not our fault. Marketing, whatever, whatever.
I haven't seen Stranger Things, so I have no idea.
But now that you say it, it makes all the sense in the
world. Like, are you saying the finale
is because I, I remember seeing the clips from that season 5
(06:02):
thing, right? With the song and everybody
running and all that. 5 three months.
And four, yeah, yeah. With the with the famous song,
right. And so, yeah, have they really
just this copied Stranger Things?
Yeah, but. Basically like, you know, it's
like patched it on they're like we wanted like 1 character for
everyone and that's like every other scene.
I feel like that only because even if anything, which is funny
(06:22):
thing is then straighter thing, at least the relationship is
also childish because they're actually children and you know
like the main guy. I'm forgetting the appeals.
I guess it's been do now, but he's just pining after 11 the
entire time. It's the same thing happening
here and there's. A.
There's a random don't like who's just like doing his own
thing. And then obviously they have
like, a full, like, you know, a villain who's always like,
(06:44):
basically living inside the underworld.
Audible. Sure, but here to is take grown
ass inseldude fighting after a ghost which is.
This makes it weird, right? Like why can't you, if you
actually copy it, just find child actors and then make it
about like teenagers at least? No.
But this day, this is like retroactively kind of shoehound
(07:04):
and thing, right? Because the first I Not only is
the franchise itself retroactively like shared
universe because Rajkumar Rao also starred in Rookie as a
different character. Which you like really confuse
the record of me because I have not seen any of these movies
until this week. So I started some read up,
research another coach like I'm knowledgeable on the podcast.
So I started reading. I'm like, wait, he's also in
(07:26):
that room. How is that that movie part of
the scene was there. Which is so baffling because
they so only Bahia I think was the one that was from ground up
designed to be a part of the series.
The others were just tacked on. Like post production where they
were like, how do we like get more money out of these movies?
Let's just announce that part ofthe scene, you know is.
Yeah, because Ruhito is, like I said, like he's playing a
(07:48):
different character altogether, which is really confusing.
But in Munjo also, there's no like, overt connection.
Like I saw like almost all of that movie and I couldn't like,
spot any overt kind of cameo or reference or anything like that.
So it felt like, oh, we'll just like, pretend that this is part
of the universe and maybe there's a cameo at the end, Who
knows? It doesn't take.
That is not very difficult, right?
(08:09):
This one, however, is again likehere the Varun Dhawan comes.
Yeah, full crossover scenes, although I can't tell like in
the finale. Is he actually here or is it
like a CGI body development? No, that looked the human Varun
Dhawan. That looked real.
Yeah, no, I'm saying the one that is in the dance songs
obviously is very real. But like for a minute when he
comes like in the finale, obviously the the wolf version
(08:31):
is like so fake. It's like you can tell CJ but
like because for a minute I likewhen he was like a lying on the
ground as the human version, I was like he looked like it's
like the other shot is from quite far.
He's trying to like, you know, he jumps and transforms into
like a wolf. That has to be CG.
Yeah, so. I was like, is that even the
earlier version like a double? That's why they're shooting in
Room of Heart. But that may be.
Impossible. It just looked fake.
(08:52):
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised,which is odd considering that
you know, it is what this is theleast that you could do if
you're making a shared whatever they get one person.
But they only got him for the songs and he's not available for
like when they're shooting the action scene in front of I'm
guessing blue screen because nothing in that underworld is
real. Thing not I mean, even I'd go so
(09:13):
far as to say that even the human beings in that finale are
barely human beings. I don't know what is happening.
Everybody's just, it's quite confusing, right?
Because you're not like you've set up the lower or no.
But let's like announce like they have new powers.
I'm like, OK, I guess I'll just roll with it now because like
you keep inventing this stuff like every minute.
Yeah, because initially she saidthat I have to be sacrificed, I
(09:35):
have to die and then the mind that for two minutes and then
they. Become like Harry Bird Dementos
basically. Yeah, and then she's like, I
have this hair that is powerful,which apparently she took from
the earlier 3 and now what I. Worked on her mother.
And the mother, she summons the mother, and then she's like,
(09:56):
which way? No, no, no, no.
You need to use that chaku in the stone.
That's going to solve our problems.
And then when he does that, no, no, no, you have to cut his head
in a certain way and only. Things like it just backfires
and they like multiply and just like OK, like.
How am I even supposed to be invested in this thing if you
(10:17):
keep cheating me every two seconds?
I'm anyway struggling to understand their words like.
The sound of 1st 15 or something, we're talking about
the final third and you have lost me like countless times
until this point. You have, I'm struggling to like
get through this movie, which has like gone in seven different
directions for the 1st two acts.Yeah, I so long.
Every scene in this movie is, I would argue, too long.
(10:39):
Literally every scene. And between every scene there is
filler, right? It's not like this.
There's a scene which is filler,this filler inside the sea.
Why can't they just do away withthat whole Sharma nonsense?
I feel like not all not to admitall though.
Why? Yeah, they would be a song.
To put a song right, to be like,to put her, make her part of the
plot of like, how do we entice him?
Why he's been coming every nighthimself.
(11:02):
Why do you need to entice if thedoors been showing up with
abducting people non-stop and apparently it says like you
know, height of his powers Maha puja thing.
He's going to show up no matter what you do.
Yeah, you don't need to find like exceptionally Pretty Woman
to dance and like who like. If I really.
Think about small. Has an insane age gap with like
Pankaj Party's character and just struggling to think of
their past relationship how it is not like inappropriate.
(11:25):
I'm confused. So is it So?
Let's assume that they were bothconsenting adults when it began.
But are we supposed to believe that either Punk, which Bhatti
is younger than many years to be, or if Tamanna Bhatti is
older than she appears to me? I'm sure she must.
I'm sure she must not have been OK with this pairing.
There's no women here, no matterhow much I minimize it.
There's at least 15 years between them, right?
(11:47):
Yeah, it seems. Like if you said they're
considering adults, the first time they met was like she's 18
and he's like 33 minimum. Which is still beyond.
Exactly. So it's like, why could he just
like hire an older actress? Why does it have to be Tamara?
You could just hire an older actor and then I don't have any
of these questions. Because they wanted screw the
(12:08):
character, or they wanted somebody to dance.
Which is the my other problem with this movie, right?
This one, and the first one is that there's too much lecherous
and energy. That's ironic, considering what
it wants to do. Exactly, I cannot deal with the
amount of lectures I read because this this this item
number happens and you know, after the item number do Ricky
(12:30):
do will complain that his love interest has abandoned him.
But during the item number, he himself has forgotten she exists
and he's dancing this new woman now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fully dancing.
Everybody dancing. In fact, the director makes a
cameo also, and he's like being a Chichwara next to her, which,
yeah. So in the 1st movie she was wiki
because you know like he hasn't actually like started quote UN
quote a relationship with like 3when he starts starting dancing
(12:52):
with Nora Fatehi. But in this one, like he
considers himself like purely inlove with this woman right at
this point. So therefore them to then hip
abandoned everything and be like, I'm gonna dance with the
literally like, you know, make suggestive gestures.
I'm just like, keep you. But say I mean on paper they are
using this character as like bait.
Right bait, which is. How I mean, see, it would be
(13:17):
fine if you aren't pretending tobe a fabulous movie, right?
Yeah. I'd be like, whatever, this is
what these dudes do. I don't get.
But now you've gone out of your way to be like 90, but three is
protector, etcetera, etcetera. But also Rajkumar Rao is a
chosen one. I was like, OK, did you just?
Anyway, very confused. Also, if this movie had been
(13:38):
like an hour and 30 minutes, I have full faith that I wouldn't
have minded it this much, because that's true.
Because it's been like moving forward all the time.
Yeah, because that's, it's not, I'm not watching these movies
for like some major like, life lesson commentary, Yeah, or
anything. You know, it's these people are
amusing, you know, in short doses, whatever.
(13:59):
But then everything is just so stretched to the point where the
movie is like actively like challenging you to.
Are you still interested? Are you still interested?
I'm like, which is why there's away to stop that because they
stretch everything too long. They're like people must have
forgotten what we said. Pash went by way.
So in the next scene, which willcome 5 minutes later, we must
repeat the same thing like word for word in.
Fairness, they are right. I kept zoning out like each
(14:23):
other and then every 10 minutes I would be I would like look up
and be like, Oh yeah, I basically get what's happening.
I don't need to be given as information.
You have to defeat the headless to got it.
Nothing else really matters. It's only the end where I was
like totally taken by surprise because firstly though, I wasn't
(14:43):
expecting like full CGI stuff, right?
Because yeah, it's been a while since like, Master Northern.
Bollywood doesn't normally do this, at least thankfully
compared to Hollywood. Thankfully, I mean for let's
praise the, you know, thank the gods, keep basic because
imagine. Bollywood like Hollywood, every
3rd movie ends in some blue versus orange computer fest.
(15:08):
Barely afford and they're still doing it.
You know, it takes like courage to be honest, like films like
Fighter and stuff and you can't afford a single like.
You can't forced to lend you one.
Like full film is like dogfights, incredible courage,
delusion. But this one though is crazy at
1.01. Like this Sarkata dude is
(15:31):
fighting with the Bhedia dude and then there are three like
heads floating in the air and the entire backdrop is like CJ.
I'm like, Oh my God, what is that?
Yeah, that thing is real industry.
It's I would have preferred if this movie was more annoying to
be honest because even then I'd be like I try to get 2 1/2 hours
of spin at least I'm feeling something.
Like Kalki? Yeah, like actively like I'm
(15:54):
yelling at the screen, getting angry, you know, How dare you?
How dare you. I'm prepared to kind of defend
even somebody who's even 5% better.
I'll like stand by them and be like team who because Kalki was
so bad. This one, I'm just like, it's
totally. It feels like a waste of time,
like there's no other way to describe it, Like nothing else
I've taken away from it other than I've lost.
(16:16):
Time and then they want to like do obviously full crossover
because I'm guessing like this is how you extend like the
lifeline of a franchise that's going nowhere.
Like are we all? But I guess the camera and I
mean like there are at least what, three different scenes?
And I'm sure one of them is likenot Canon because it makes no
sense if it's canonical. To be honest, I checked out.
I have no idea. Yeah, I.
Did but I'm just like I was trying to keep.
I was like. Do you mean?
(16:37):
For this scene to like be this way because they're then getting
introduced. One scene literally like he's
trying to like take over. Like what is happening?
Are they thinking like they wantto like Rajkot House Contractors
ending or something? And they want one they want to
take over. So then they're like, yeah, but
it's also now in love with the same woman as the other dude.
This is almost like that. I don't know if you read the
some, I think Guardian or something, kind of you talk with
(16:58):
the people who made the franchise, this HBO show, right?
They were talking about how it'sbased on like actual stories.
They were from people who workedon Marvel and stuff.
And the one down the story. Yeah, yeah.
And one of the stories was like,they shoot different versions
with different actors, differentbackgrounds and.
Just in case like you know like some actor could show later on
(17:19):
so you can like replace it in post production.
This is that version I guess is.Like really expecting, you know,
like Rajput, Ravi, you get in some controversy like two months
down the line or take Sarwadi, ask for that too much money for
3/3. They could just like replace his
body and his face with like on it.
Yeah, they're fully announced. Also can any Varun Dhavar is
going to I don't know Stocks 3 now.
(17:41):
Yeah, basically like I feel likethat only he's like they kick
over the franchise or anything like that.
I don't know what's happening orlike this is like a set up
basically I guess to put Shraddha Kapoor also in BDR to
whatever if they want to do thatat some point.
But it comes across as, you know, here's the only way we
know how to kind of cross these characters over is by having
them fight over the same woman, as opposed to the meeting other
things we could do with like a goddamn werewolf.
(18:03):
Yeah, and for like for for a movie to actually have like I
think for of all the annoying characters, like at least the
good thing which character is she's not annoying.
Like she's sometimes very part of the movie.
She stands in the background andsays nothing.
But at least you have a character who's like
simultaneous sometimes the love interest and sometimes also like
the semi villain now also semi semi hero.
(18:25):
But no, they would finally reduce find any way to reduce
the female character to a unit of character to be like no,
she's the common thing to fight over between two mates.
What about you? If only she was slightly better
at her job. It was.
It was kind of. That's bland.
The shape. To watch, Yeah, because most of
the time he's also like giving instructions like Vicki tome
vahajana hai, Vicki hame Ek banabadega.
(18:48):
She's 2 like exposition. Lord yeah character.
And she has like 4 introductions.
I'm like what is happening now? Like literally 4 times they're
introduced he introducing her. He like forgot the like already
done. This is the.
Character, which is what we would like to describe as that
color nonsense where they literally forgot that Bubble
(19:08):
Khan had been introduced. 5 minutes, yeah.
Like let's do a reveal, right? Which part are you shooting?
Where was the continuity? Was where was the director
Director anyway? What are the biggest hits of all
time? We haven't touched upon the
three 3 setup or the middle of the entrance of like Akshay
(19:29):
Kumar. Oh my God, how do we forget
Akshay Kumar I. Think they were like kind of
supper of the memory that we that happened.
I completely forgot he was playing some borderline like
rapey dude, right? Yeah, basically what what was
happening. And then somehow like merged
with what? Like Shah Jah or something?
I honestly I I watched it and it's not been that long but I
have no idea what happened in the 10 minute stretch.
(19:52):
He went to basically like, I think he's the I don't know if
he's the author or if he's like somehow connected to the book
that's been like at the basis ofthis movie for like the two.
Movies. That's all I remember.
Is that taken to some asylum andthen confront the dude and like
that's it? Can you just imagine how little
juice Akshay Kumar has left? Because yeah, it was.
(20:12):
I checked. It can be.
It can be fun. Like the rock energy of like,
you know, he's like fined everything thing in life Kuchni
or Hollywood make. So then he starts going back to
fast and shooters. I can't even imagine because I.
It's like I'm thinking of every franchise now.
It's like Major Kuchni or I manymovies I will take.
What franchise is working post 3is working?
His function in this movie was to grab your attention, someone
(20:35):
you like, doing comedy and stuff.
But he's like, what's the big name to like, you know, like
Spock it up. That's what like horror also
does like, you know, do like a cameo with like you do someone
for like 5 minutes, like someonewill show up and then he comes
again. I don't know what happened the
end. Like he opens some Matka in the
end and he becomes I said he's coming to the next villain or
something. But now that I care.
When did this happen? I think like right after the
(20:56):
crickets or whatever it was job.Oh, I wasn't watching.
Yeah, but just skip whatever at that point.
Then I had a full. I checked up and they started
dancing together and I was like OK got it, bye bye.
Apparently there's more movie after.
That there is multiple more scenes.
Oh God, yeah. But whatever.
(21:16):
Not again. Right, time for that.
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