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Hi. And I'm Rohan.
Rahar, welcome to the long take.This week we're discussing the
new John Abraham movie called Dyon.
It is streaming on Z5. It is perfectly inspired by a
true story, as the movie claims,but as they're about to discuss
in the sporoast, it's completelylike, made-up for reasons we
have no idea. But yeah, what is this movie
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tone and why does it exist? There are multiple theories that
I have sure about why it exists.I'll begin with the the funniest
one, OK, Is that I do you know how like back in the day when
like the supermodel era was at its peak and the common kind of
stereotype was that, you know, models aren't the sharpest tool?
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I think John really got upset bythat.
And now he's completely determined to be like, look how
smart I am. And this kind of whatever quest
that he's on is just inadvertently kind of exposing
how not smart these movies are, you know?
And it's worse because they're trying so hard to be like, look,
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we read a newspaper, but then you take something off the
headlines and then you manipulate it and twist it into
something that means nothing. Yeah, right.
Because. Like it it's so far at this
point from reality that we basically like, I want to like
sue them if I can. Like, you know, like it's, it's
one thing to like say like surely they're not saying based
on a true story, but like the word inspired is doing a lot of
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heavy lifting here. I suppose because I remember, I
think I remember that attack or not even attack whatever blast
outside the Israel embassy and that's like a high security
area. And obviously Israel is a is AI
think the Israeli embassy is a particularly like a fortress in
that. So I remember when that
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happened. It was, it kind of made news for
like 2 days. I want to and then people just
moved on. But like no no child flower
seller died I think. Yeah, like that's what I need to
start of it is that no one actually died in the attack.
Read the real attack like peoplemight watch movie and not read
that newspaper, unlike, you know, the people who made this
movie apparently, but no actually died in attack.
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People were injured like minor injuries, never recovered and
the movie like it needs that right.
Remember that needs that to exploit protagonist or to this
journey. So they just invented.
They just invented for death. Yeah, yeah, No, this is like one
of those situations. Like he's supposed to be someone
who also is outraged by the ideathat, you know, 2 foreign
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nations basically have like a playground fight, but the
playground is India. There's like a full Nat take
like attitude, right? Like Hamara Deshmui, how do has
to to? To Usko Usko, but in the movies
like But will the audience feel as deeply about it as John
Abraham does? About an ideological.
Then they have and they decided no, probably not.
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So then we what choice do we have but to kill kill an
innocent child? And then like harp about it like
for half an hour at least the first entire act I think they
show the dead girl bloodied and like bang ocean again and again.
Our chase is slow motion, me slow motion.
Do you know? Yeah, yeah, forgets motion
ultras like matrix level slow motion.
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Yeah, probably the worst use of bullet time ever.
To kill a child maybe What? Yeah.
Do you remember how, like, diplomat, maybe, like, for
absolutely no reason, there was somebody who died and John
Abraham was like, Oh no, that's what kind of is motivating me to
save this woman. As if the woman herself isn't
motivation enough, you know. But it's made because there is
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no one to save per SE as John Abraham.
Like saving people. Yeah, he's saving like a right,
Like that's what like he's saving the concept of like that
no other Indian should ever get hurt, but like leaving out the
fact that they were actually hurt her in the first place.
No, no. But then, but then I'm like,
John has nobody told you about China?
Don't like if the day if I entered about China he's going
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to flip. I think my theory like you
wonder like a theory of like, you know, like what happens is
my theory is essentially like the Delhi Police needs like some
good propaganda for itself and they were like we have some
money lying. Bad propaganda.
I'm telling you this is bad propaganda because for half the
movie I don't even know if he's raw or Delhi Police.
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And then when I find out he's Delhi Police, I'm like he's
Delhi Police at least. Like make him say that 5 times.
He's like infiltrating Iran to like kill somebody.
No Delhi Police guy is doing that.
Delhi Police guy is going home and like sleeping on his couch.
So I tried to like read into thereal story of like what actually
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happened. You know, I was like what is
available in puppy domain, obviously.
And it seems like the special cell has like a history of like
doing what's the guy from 24 called Jack Bauer?
Jack Bauer. I got it, especially I said as I
still doing Jack Bauer stuff like they will cross all limits
as long as what they want to achieve happens.
So they are like frame people, they're beaten up, people like
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to know and torture people gotten like I thought that falls
everything, you know. Limited to like Butler house
type things, not like foreign soil, right?
That's like beyond your jurisdiction.
I don't know if they operate on foreign soil like that.
I could not find. But like in this case, they
wanted to like, you know, essentially frame someone and
they found a journalist and theyfound some Iranians and they
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were like, you want to ensure they are the target.
We don't care. You don't want to do any
investigation. We want to ensure all blame goes
on them. So they according to one
investigative report, they made-up evidence to frame these
people and now they want to makea movie about this guy going
cross national borders to like save future Indians from not and
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nothing or this ever thought ever happening again, which is
like a full like I thought even revisionist history.
That's like next level revisional history.
It's like you have it's. It's Minority Report.
Yeah, basically. It's a minority report to
safeguard India cause sovereignty.
And safeguard our immature look at the league.
Pretty special cell. We are so noble, and we will go
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to any length to save Indians. Except I never realized that it
was the new police on delay. Which is the current issue, but
not good. See, he's not.
Depending worthy or anything he is.
Yeah, he's not, honestly, because he's doing like, you
know, spy stuff. Cobalt.
Yeah, I guess you can move into the spy stuff now, which is
hilarious in itself. Like all of the movies, like
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action scenes are just like people walking with guns in the
open. No one hides anywhere.
Walk in the open, people shoot at other people.
The bad guys miss because there's stormtroopers, and then
Johnny Woman hits because he's Skywalker.
Yeah, but here I see. I'll give I'll give the movie
one thing. It's not as bad as The Diplomat
right it? At least of that the far.
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Feels, I'm telling you, it at least looks and feels like a
real movie, right it? Says it.
There is it does it does it doeslike it?
May look, but I know it doesn't represent what it's supposed to
be right that I agree with like it looks like Glasgow.
I agree with pretending to be there on like hello, every
second board around you is revealing like a British shop
name. It's Glasgow.
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So what are you doing? Like stop, stop with this thing
so. The weird thing about this movie
is that for as long as it's in India or Delhi, it's
surprisingly like geographicallyaccurate, right?
So from the opening, whatever attack Orang Zebra would does
that, which is no longer, but the delete depiction is quite
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spot on. So initially I'm quite
impressed. You've gone and shot on real
locations and you've tried to beauthentic and there is like a so
I am completely unfamiliar with this real life case going into
the movie, right. I have no idea.
I don't frankly care. But not the major banal.
Yeah, it doesn't matter to me. Obviously, I don't know that
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he's going to infiltrate Iran bywhich time I'm like 8 second,
eight second. But initially for the first
hour, I'm like, fine, this is a grounded kind of police movie.
It's not as bad as those Manoj Bajpai things or, you know, like
a even like a regular John Abraham.
But for obviously in the final, final hour when the Iran stuff
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happens and it's all short in like the United Kingdom.
Yeah. And it's like they're going
around in the same St. because that's all they could afford in
Circle. Not like a full chase sequence.
It's not like they keep the action zoomed in on the
vehicles. No, they show you like white
shots. I'm like, why are you doing
white shots? I can tell you are not in the
real city. Nothing looks like Iran.
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Nothing. Not even like one assault Look.
Like Iran. It's bizarre.
Find finds a very important necessary exists out there which
is not in Iran. It looks like spiky, like Iran.
Like find it like Jordan and Saudi Arabia would happily
invite you to. Shoot, yeah.
Like they were throwing. Like, you know, they do like tax
breaks also. They're like, why would you go
to? The UK because UK cut tax break
is better. Or like what?
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I know, like the director and Jordan and the family wanted a
vacation there and they were like, yeah, let's just like take
a work excuse. I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know, see it.
It feels very bizarre because the exact things that I was
appreciating the movie for are the things that yeah, they
digit, which also extends not only to like the locations or
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whatever, but like the ethos. Like what does the movie stand
for? Right.
The movie stands for like we've discussed Keto Muhammad
sovereignity and you can't basically encroach and plus like
dead child, whatever. But basically John is a patriot.
Isn't he supposed to be protecting his country?
But then he is also the most apolitical dude and like overtly
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so. Like he will say in words like I
don't want to judge tum lo garaikarai tum kar tero II.
Does that in like text form. In the end, Israeli doesn't
focus fighting, but nothing happened in India.
Yeah, that is the movie's beliefs.
So. If you're correct.
So if the movie is supposedly A geopolitical thriller, I don't
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buy the protagonist of said movie being overtly apolitical.
So I am going to imagine that you have more than one opinion
in your life because you're a human being.
But as this character has been written, it's got one note.
It's completely bizarre. I don't know what the
fascination for all this is, butlike, if you were to even
analyze the film's depiction of whatever, Iran, Israel, it makes
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no sense for you to sit on the fence, right?
Even as a person unrealisticallyor sitting on the fence, if you
are making a movie by default, the way that you place your
camera or the way that you portray your villain is going to
be a political statement, right?So for for the movie to
basically suggest that the crazyvillain who gives a crazy
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villain performance is against is against Iran, not because of
whatever nuclear tests that theyare doing, sorry Israel, but
because he is pro Palestine, right?
Is what I'm led to believe. Now that is a very.
Weird. It could ultimately be like even
like such a thing he's doing just to like, you know, like one
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things in the wrong direction orsomething.
But what choice make Karaya not to put a Janda behind him?
Yeah. And you have made you have made
that choice. So why would you make that
choice as opposed to seeing Israel?
And at one point when like that she only appears for like 5
minutes in the movie. But last the Rosie like
surrenders herself to the policeand then John interrogates her.
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He like he mocks her with the same approach.
He's like mocks, He's like, he'ssupporting these like no.
He does that, he does that. And so I'm like second Aptera
suddenly opinion Yeah, so there is this background some deal
also that's happening, right? And Israel and India is kind of
making deals with both countriesand and you don't want to
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disrupt that because of what John does.
And sure, but that's like the government costans as a person.
Are you just kind of echoing thegovernment costans?
So in your effort to be like nayI am a lone wolf and my own
country is hunting me like the last time which was the diplomat
which ended up being like Keralastory situation Galti SE
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entirely this movie ends up being I don't know pro pro
Sarkar pro capitalist thing which is.
No, it's, it's a Bambriki model.I don't think it's pro literally
anything at any point. It's, I think it's like and I'm
like, OK, but like you are nothing at this point.
You're nothing. It's so muddled.
It's but that's the thing, right?
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If this was like a Golmal movie or like a House full movie, that
would be like. What actually celebrated?
We're like, OK, you're like, you're mocking each side.
Yeah. But this is a this movie is
supposedly set in the real world, so you can't get away
with things that no, you know, like James Gunn got away with in
Superman, right? Which is a stronger political
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statement than anything that this movie ever does, even
though this movie is supposed tobe the political movie.
And that's like a cartoon movie.I know right?
That movie is like based in realincident apparently, which OK,
not a superhero movie has somehow which like is claiming
to be like not about anything ismaking strong the.
Opposite. No, it's the opposite.
Like James Gunn is saying nothing, nothing, nothing, but
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he's quietly making whatever comment he wants to make via his
movie. In fact, John is like no more.
This movie is about everything. This movie is about politics,
but the movie itself is about nothing.
When you drop a. Heart corrosive brain is a.
Brain like clearly they were attached in the post production
because the movie like doesn't feel cohesive and start.
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We have like a 32nd intro to like Israeli run conflict right
and then they actually go into the story.
So in that 32nd intro they like give you a background on Israel
and the attack and they say likethey were attacked in three
locations in like New Delhi, Bangkok and Georgia.
OK, and at this point I have no like non in order of the attack
and then after the version of the movie I had gone read about
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the attack. So oh God, this is like I only
noticed again with this. So they on the map they show you
Georgia as the US state inside the US OK, which is Georgia the
real Kahani of the third ball. He will not guess it is Georgia,
the country. How?
How does this? Happen.
That reminds me of a funny thing.
Do you know like those people inPunjab who like promise you that
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we'll take you to America like donkey roots and all that and
they kind of take all your life savings and everything people
pay them like pachas, pachas la cropea.
So apparently there's a scam where a bunch of like people
from the Ludhiana and stuff are ending up in the state of
Georgia, in the country of Georgia.
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And yeah, yeah, yeah, they've been told like Georgia.
And like suddenly Georgia is full of people from Ludhiana
like the country. This serious movie about like
bomb blast and geopolitical terror has the audacity to not
even check the real instrument and publish the entire movie for
like streaming platform in torn countries.
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My God. Give it an award for something.
Like some American guy watch themovie every like 1 2nd.
The funny thing is that all the foreign people like the Israelis
and the Iranians and all it is established by the movie itself
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that they communicate in Englishright on occasion.
But then why does John Abraham insist on communicating with
them in like Hebrew and? So Shore is like street cred in
front of people. It doesn't matter.
Like it would make sense, you know, if he was like thrown into
Tehran for like 6 months and he's living over the local, then
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he's pretending to be like a local guy.
That didn't make sense. You know, he's trying to blend
in. But he will be like with one guy
who knows he's not who is from India because he's like the
handler and then he's speaking local language to that one guy
who. That one guy knows English also,
by the way, which the movie has established already.
Exactly, cuz he's like an, He's a fixer, he's a handler.
He has to pick multiple languages.
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It's so funny and he's Delhi Police.
International diplomats, yeah, like Israeli diplomats and
Iranian fixer, he will speak in micro language.
And I'm like, what are you trying to blend in?
With in the hospital. It's so funny.
And again, each translation, this poor John Abraham from
Delhi Police, he's probably saying like he's probably
butchering that language. He's like speaking poor Hebrew.
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Only the people who watch like MSTK 3000 thing we should do
that except make like Iranians and his release in the same
room. Play this movie and then see how
they react. They'll probably solve their
conflicts like is this what we are worth?
Something like. Don't say that to edit that John
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Abraham to come get us, Yeah. Issue record photo against us.
He came to my office the other day and I hid.
You should have was there like aquestion session of like and
otherwise you just put him. It's only one question.
No, no, he Tehran question mark.Nobody had seen the movie until
then. It was just John talking about
how he reads the newspaper. A lot.
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Well, he set up for a new movie where he'll play and see the
journalist. Said nobody, ever.
Anybody who reads the newspaper doesn't think it's something
worth bragging about. Now.
A quick job like a 20 bulls likecome.
Newspaper. Oh gosh.
It's so fun. That's all for this episode of
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