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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, Legends, working back to the Mason cock Show. We
do have the season finale today, and what do we
do We get back to the legends that are you
listening now? We put it out on the socials questions
you want to hear? What are you dying to get?
Answered from us? And we're gonna go through all that,
plus a bit of a season review of everything that's
going on. There's a lot in this episode and some
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good little funny talking points too, that's for sure. So
settle in because we start now, Hey, Legends, working back
to the Mason cock Show. This is actually the season finale, everyone,
so settle in. We are going to give back, Yes,
give back to you, the fans of people that make
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this thing possible today, the footy fan questions. Yes, this
one is purely dedicated to you. So without further ado,
let's smash this out.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Ah, get a mice in my head. It said I'm
too sick.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Goodbye. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
I don't know if that's enough to get a copyright
claim or whatever, but YouTube. Let's jump straight into the
fan questions. There's plenty of them. Loved getting them. Thank
you to everyone that's sending a fan question. Legends and
we jump off the top because we got the hard
hitting questions everyone wants to know. One's from Adrian Addie.
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What size bed do you sleep in?
Speaker 1 (01:27):
I get this all the time. Actually, California King, I
think is the American terminology, but here it's called like
a super king.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
That's a big boy.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Actually I want it on like the Footy show, and
it's like a temper. It's like a ten twenty thousand
dollars better or something ridiculous. It doesn't fit in any
other room, Like it is so big. It just like
you think about the gaps of the room, like walking
on the side of like the bed. You have to
shimmy sideways to get past the bed. That's how big
it is. It's absurd. Well, I love it because I
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just like lay starfish fully, just like out cold, and
none of my extreme these text touched the edge.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
That's wolde.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Yeah, I don't want to get into the King single.
Is that longer or wider or like you know, if
you're starting at King single.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Obviously I don't have a single bed single.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
The beds get longer, yeah, you.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Do, like the super I think whenever you put super
in front of it gets longer. King is longer though than.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
The twin, so you need the longer beds.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
I'm all about the length baby length. The bed were
starting a bit weird thing.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
To ava.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Forbes wants to know what's your biggest takeaway from the season,
So we're bringing it back.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
We're on the footy rails now.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
One of the craziest things I think this season. Obviously
everyone knows how close the competition was, with like a
Freeman went from the top to making outside the eight.
For us, you know, it was, oh, we'd love to
be in the top eight and we've all be playing
finals right now. But realistically, I think the biggest takeaway
was just how close the competition is. Yeah, you look
at teams like Hawthorn that was down at the bottom
of lader A lot of people predicted them not to
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be anywhere near the eight. They're in the eight and
playing really well at the back end of the season.
And you look at us, we tied two games, could
have won one of those. We're in finals, you know,
and we lost. We didn't lose. We tied both of them,
which very rare, i'd probably say, in the season, and
that kind of almost cost Us Finals. So it is
such a thing about the little margins of people being
healthy at the right times and the right kind of
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momentum and confidence at the right time at the end
of the season, and there's so many things I have
to go your way to win the whole thing. I
think it made myself appreciate just how lucky we were
last year goat times to have everything fall in place
the way it did.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, everything has to go perfectly for you to be
able to make it. You had a rollercoaster end to
the season last year, but it all came together just
in the perfect way, just to get you across the line.
This one was a real head scratcher because it's a
good point. And I don't know how to pronounce the
name because it's right on Arion NATCHI Yeah, I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
If you have a game at seven forty seven forty start,
what time do you eat dinner?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I do a later to lunch at like one or two,
and then we won't eat till after the game. So
you do kind of your carbloading the day before you
eat a big meal. Yeah, you do that kind of
Yeah day my kind of situation, I start two days before,
I start with my lunch, my dinner, and then the
next day lunch, dinner, and then game day obviously you
have breakfast and then lunch, and then you have your
dinner after the game. So if you don't want to
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have too much in your system and be running around heavy.
But you got to think game is seven forty, you're
probably not having dinner till ten thirty eleven. Yeah, and
you get like this little wrap after the game or
something like that that probably doesn't fill you up after
expending that much energy, and then you kind of have
to get maybe Guzman or something like that on the
way home.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
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Speaker 1 (04:50):
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Speaker 3 (04:55):
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Speaker 2 (04:59):
Did you ever have the usher the ice cream that
they used to make. It's a throwback and they got
rid of it. It was like the ice cream they
used to make it had they had the Golden Gay
time they had like Aureos or whatever. That crush it
was the mcflurry machine broke its basically like a mcflurry,
but it just ship all over it.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Anyway, We digress.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
That's have you ever like getting into footy you've been
in it tenish years, you would have had times where
you've completely stuffed up your run into games.
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Like your food situation. Are they just so on you
about it?
Speaker 1 (05:33):
I mean I've I've had stuff that I've eaten that
probably hasn't settled well. Yeah, definitely, And that's kind of
made me have a very bland pregame meals and stuff
in that sense, So why everyone goes just like rice
and chicken, it's like it's blands. It can get you
put your own spices and stuff on it. But like
I think one of the biggest things that make you
feel like you're on on the day is your sleep.
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Your sleep pattern in the night before. You have to
get to get that right to be I think just
like focus, Like sometimes you don't have good sleep, you
get a bit of a blurred mind, whereas you have
good sleeping it before and it's a lot easier said
than dunks. You had the anxiety of the game and
everything else you can imagine, like Grand Final, like last
year with the Grand Final shoot, I don't think I
would have slept much side before everything I was going
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through my head so you got to understand like you're
probably not having the best prep whenever it's an exciting
adrenaline rush game coming up. So that's probably the biggest
thing in the lead up that's important, is making sure
you get your sleep.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I wonder if Pendall still has anxiety sleeps before it's
just like going out there for the seven thousandth time.
This one from Grandma Fraser. We loved Grandma. Do you
want to walk the Kokoda track?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Wow?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Kakoda tracks?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
That's something I didn't know existed before I came here. Yeah,
I didn't know anything about it, but I would love to. Yeah,
it'd be cool. I think it'd be pretty cool. I
think it's I love the anxact kind of spirit here
and everything that comes with it, and that's such an important,
you know, moment in the history of that. So yeah,
i'd love to do the Kokoda track. I don't know
if they do like a thing where I look at
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other tracks, you know, like to Machi Pichu and the
Inca Trail, and they get like a person or a
donkey or something like that kind of carries the bag.
Do you take a donkey and then you kind of
like just walk with a lighter pack. That's the way
I would want to do the track. I'm not carrying
literally two weeks worth of food and everything on my back.
I've got some other animal doing that for me, and
I can just enjoy the view of the atmosphere and
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take in the history that is I think that's the
way I'd want to do it. Is that cheating probably just.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Take how can carry backpacks? He's all good ankle rehab.
This one's a good one, but it might be a
bit of a stumper. On short notice from Melsey, what
is the best unknown story from twenty twenty four? So
something that you can let us all know about now
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that you couldn't during the season because it's all hush
hush secrets.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I can tell you a personal one that I knew
about and so obviously I had a big injury in
the middle of the year, torn mcl broken rib, concussion,
broken cheekbone in that instant. Also see me tore my
a cl Oh what no one knew about it?
Speaker 3 (08:12):
That's wild.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
So I was playing on that for the back half
of the year, but we decided as a team not
to say anything to the public just because people would
comment about it. And things of whether I should get
surgery and things along that line. So we made the
decision it was best for myself to keep that secret.
And you know, we've got to the point now we'll
go in the off season and be healed up by
the time we get back. But yeah, that's an unknown
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story that no one knew about. You didn't even know that.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
No, that's pretty wild, and it was Yeah, it's probably
a fair assumption that you did everything in that car.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah, it was like people looked at him like, dude,
that should be a torn acl And in my mind
I was like, what it was.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, you did the full James Brown splits. Ah, that's wild. Well,
well done to get through that, because now you have
an excuse why you couldn't kick it forty meters.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Yeah, I was My goal kicking definitely took a bit
of a hit towards the back end of the year
for a good reason. Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
That is a good one. Thanks for the question, Melse.
This one from stephie d favorite game you played this year.
Let's we know that the Anzac day, the moments, the occasions,
they're all good.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
They're good.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So but like something outside of that, like a nice
win and close come from behind or anything like that.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Always good to beat Carlton. That first game when we
beat Carleton. That was also Nicks coming out of the
stoppage kicking and winning goal, like just going absolutely nuts.
That was unreal. I think that's probably the topper than
the Brisbane game recently, Like yeah, you know, getting that
one point win, kicking three goals in like four minutes.
I think those are the two that stick out the
most heartbreaking games. You look at the Sydney game. Ye,
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Sydney game very much a heartbreak game. Knowing what was
on the line at that time and a few calls,
it just didn't go your way and it cost us
the game and other people on their team Isacin You
just stood up in a pivotal moment, just killed it.
So yeah, those are probably the polar opposites of good
games and bad games, and so those are the ones
that come to mind right away.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
There's always a few freaking good ones in there. If
you play for the Pies. That was great. The nicknames one.
I was at a wedding and everyone was watching it
on the dance floor at the wedding and it was
victory was sweet. Let's jump into the next one, breed
would you say anyway?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Anyway?
Speaker 2 (10:24):
I'm getting these all run right. Yeah, that's a good one.
What's your favorite off field pastime outside of fishing?
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I'll give you this. Actually how many people know this,
but I do have breathwork once a week now. So
there's a place called Breathouse, is it Nathan Freeman as
a pot owner in it. You used to play at
the Pies and they've got a couple here in Melbourne.
So once a week I go and do kind of
like a meditative breathwork class there, and I've really enjoyed that.
It's kind of a good time to get away from technology,
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put the phone away and just kind of really simplistically
breathe in the conscious way. And it's kind of been
a nice like meditation for me to get away from
the stresses of AFL. So I highly recommend it for
anyone else wants to try it. But that's not much
changed that I haven't done previously that I've enjoyed. And
if Field like kind of I don't know, experiences of life,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
I've spoken to him about it before and I think
in my head meditation and breath work. I thought that
would like the same thing, but like breath work is
a bit more conscious, right, it's telling you to breathe
and bath, but at.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
The same time you get this like high, kind of
tingly feeling from it. Yeah. This kind of makes no
sense from saying, oh, you're just breathing, but like the
way you do it, the breath holds, and you know
they talk about like whim half. You know, it does
kind of these things, and yeah, it's all guided someone.
They're kind of telling you like three seconds and three
seconds out and doing it kind of with you. And yeah,
you get this kind of euphoric feeling from it, which
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is pretty cool if you you know, fully lean into it.
You have to. It's like meditation, right. You can't just
be like, oh, I'm going to have to do this
like now. You have to fully like kind of give
yourself up to it to get the full experience from it.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, I need the guide because I can't. There's terrible
things happen inside my head.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Yeah I had, I had, I brought you a friend
of mine and Clint stand Away came to it and
he'd just been to Paris and then went straight from
Parisch of Sydney to do the weekend show and then
comes to Melbourne. He's been wanting to do it with
me for a long time. So it comes in there
on the Tuesday and we you know, we go into
the class and there's him an empty spot for you know, Matt,
and then two cute girls to the right of us,
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and I'm like, well said you dog me and going
you're gonna put me on that mat right, You're gonna
put me in the middle there. You have to talk
to the person next year. They opens a conversation up right.
So I was like to shake brother to shake. Clint
appreciate that, so he SAIDs there. We go through the
meditative thing about three quarters away through. I'm sitting there
and it goes hold your breath goes super quiet, instructor
goes quiet, music goes quiet. Everyone's just hushed. And next
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to me, I just hear this.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
He's full, just snorted, woke himself up, heels hit the floor,
shakes the whole fucking shot and he's just gone on
and then he just kind of goes it, just kind
of laughs because he knows what he's doing. Five or
six people around him start laughing. We're all just trying
to just calm, meditative state. He's just embarrassed the heck
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out of himself. It was one of the funniest things
I've ever heard. And it was just like, as soon
as the class finish, I couldn't have seen him getting
out there quicker.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
He was bolting for the door. See later.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
That's so rough.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
That's funny. Would you recommend it?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Would you do they do ie gazing I was talking about.
I'm trying to get down there to I gaze with me,
where you just stare into each other's soul for like
an hour, just looking right into each other's eyes.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's interesting, that's a real love. I don't know. I
feel like that's maybe start with your partner.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
I wouldn't mind saying it.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
Off season plans US trip talk about that from Chelsea.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
Uh trip. So I'll fly back September three, I go
back to the US and then the fifth I'll fly
to Croatia seven day crews there, fly to Malan after that,
let Coma for three days, then go up to the
Dolomites in Italy, do some hiking, high out to training,
then over to Munich. Do October first and then the
Barron Munich. Game is what the plan is. Fly back
from my brother to Austin, spend a month in training
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in Austin, do a few trips up to Dallas to
the mom and dad. USAFL is in Austin this year,
so shout out to them. The AFL A competition over there.
They did the national competition in Austin, so I'll be
an ambassador for that. Get to go a roll around,
you know, spread the game over there and spread the
words be cool. And then yeah, I've got a family trip.
I think out to New Mexico November seventh. I'll be
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back to fourteenth, jeez.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
And then you be going on and you train for
two weeks and then you go on another holiday. That's it, right, Ciga.
Of these players, let's get into our personal life stuff.
This is where it always gets good. And this one's
heavy off the top. So this one's from Heaves Smith.
Where do you see yourself in five years time?
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Jeez? Probably playing Game three ninety nine, Just go I
got to know three years in me. Yeah, in five
years time. I love to be in the media in
some capacity. I'm not sure what it's going to be.
I'd love to promote the game overseas and do that
through the AFL in some way, shape or form. Not
sure how it all pan out, and love the radio gig,
love the podcast gig. So love that kind of side
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of it. And I think I've also essentially done my
coaching accreditation too, so be kind of a unique thing
to do a part time job helping out, you know,
I think these young kids are coming through the system.
Myself never played football before, had to learn the game
from scratch. I think there's a lot of value in,
you know, being able to teach these people who may
have transferred from basketball or something else and haven't played
AFL for a long time and some of the skill
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sets and the things I learned throughout my career and
be able to help the next generation in that sense.
So hopefully that's a possibility. I'm not sure what clubs
out there listening, but if you are and five years,
i'd be interested.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
One day, we're going to see five years someone come
through this two hundred and twelve cent till in five years. Well,
I'm mainly focused on my business. I'm sure I have
outside things that I want to do.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
You want to run a marathon, I'd love to see
you run a marathon the next five years. Can we
can we lock this in? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Well, I was talking to Mace off air and I
accidentally almost ran a sub twenty minute five k just crazy,
which yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
I thought I was going slow, but I was in
the zone with my headphones on. And I've always been
half blessed with like just like my legs don't get
sore and my lungs don't burn, so I'm not quick,
but I can just like run.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
But beers are my problem.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Are definitely they.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Always get me. But yeah, I feel like I can.
I know I can run a half marathon. I've done
it a couple of times where I just go and
run it, whereas yeah, a full marathon is that's a
lot of mentals like yeah, raw Dog, imagine raw Dog
and marathon, no music, no nothing, You're just out there,
just raw Do.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Shorts throw me back to the Budgies? Yeah, yeah, I
don't know.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That would be a great challenge. I want the business
to just keep growing. I want to hopefully buy like
a studio and like a bit more space and do
custom sets and grow the podcasting side. And it's all
growing very quickly, so that's it's yeah, it's fun. Business
is fun and.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Hell at the same time, your own business.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Let's jump into Mike bees question. Biggest off field accomplishment.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Wow, it's a a general there's a lot of those.
I think just as a whole. Like people you know
in Australia don't want you to pump yourself up and
things like that, but I think I like my experience
and you know, the order to get you more, you
reflect on it and what you've kind of been through
and how you've handled it and what's where it's kind
of made you as a person. I think, like over,
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I'm pretty proud of myself for what I've been able
to do here, not only from on field stuff, but
also to live away from family, create your own life here,
you know, make some incredible friendships and stuff like That's
not easy, especially the older you get. So I think
for myself, I'll look back on the whole is something
I'm quite proud of and as an off field accomplishment
of just doing that and get citizenship here and things
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along those lines. That doesn't it doesn't happen very often.
It's a very few and farm between a lot of people.
Come over from overseas and they go back home and
things like that, and they've stuck out for so long
and be able to you know, not probably be looked
at as one of those that goes home all the
time and misses home in that sense, you know, it's
like I've fully committed to this place. I think that's
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probably the one I look back on and holistically say,
you know, that's something I'm extremely proud of as an
accomplishment in life, to say, no matter when this finishes
up and you know, who knows where my life's going
to take me, I'll look back on my time here
and be like that was pretty cool. Yeah, not many people. Well,
no one has the exact same story as you, and
you did it your way totally different to anyone else,
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and a cop criticism along the way and is what
it is. But I know there'll never be another Mason
Cox in this world. Yeah, which is pretty cool to.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Say, Yeah, you've done heaps. She's definitely recognized all around
Australia alone Melbourne and coming over at twenty four. Like
there's people that will never solo travel for like two
weeks in their life, let alone move over here and
do everything that you've done, which.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Is pretty crazy mine.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
I think I've just become a better person over time,
which is just I used to be more, believe it
or not, of a bitter, twisted prick and just hated
people and just work flat out, which I still do.
I'm just slowly finding calmness and patience, which is patience
if most of my clients here swallow, But yeah, it's yeah,
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I feel comfortable, which is like, I feel like being
comfortable with yourself is like such a journey to get
to that point, especially heading through your twenties twenty suck,
but getting to your thirties, you think it's going to
just click, and it doesn't. But yeah, now at the
position where I am, feel so much more comfortable with
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who you are, and it just makes life just that
bit easier. It makes the whole thing a lot easier,
less stressful, for sure. Let's jump into Zach Matthews, and
this is along the lines of a lot of what
we got, So I'm just reading out this one and
we'll group it into one. It says, surely one of
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you is going to get a girlfriend this summer.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
It's not that hard, Zach says, Yeah, Zach.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Ladies, ladies Jesus keeping them all. Yeah, I mean we'd
love to. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
You're going over to freaking like Italy and traveling and
you're going through the mountains.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
You're only going to be there for four days.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
That's a rough one to put on the Tinder profile
in town for four days.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
I need a two of guys relationship out of it.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Yeah, the donkey on the Concada trail. You might bring
it back, afraid o. Maeah, Yeah, we'd love to. I
think we always kind of joke about trying to find
a podcam. I do think probably our work situations is
not sometimes you know, a good environment for a girlfriend
to be involved in this.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Book better too much, I reckon.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
I've been on the best role that I've been on,
like it, and it's only been two months of like
work life balance, making sure I get out, keeping the
weekends as free as I can, doing stuff, going on dates.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
Yeah, but the thing is, we get a girlfriend, it's
just going to be way less entertaining. Yeah. Yeah, it
did not to say that getting a girlfriend's doll, but
I think, like I think there's just way better stories
that happen whenever you're single because people are shocked by
some of the stuff that's out there, and you know
what happens. They as a person that has a girlfriend
or boyfriend, go, I feel a lot better about.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
My relationship appreciated.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, because he is having an absolutely terrible time. It's
not great.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
Yeah, I think I was telling you I don't and
then it was too close to the time. But yeah,
I was like telling the hairdresser about all my dates
and when she spun me around to the back. There
was a guy that was like, mane, you should write
a book like shock it. There was a girl head
butted me in the face on one of my dates,
like before I took a break, like fools, head butted
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me in the chin. It's so hard that I bit
my lip and she's scared you for a long No,
that was what I had a good run there, so
but no, I am getting better, like getting out there,
going on a few dates. I don't get nervous anymore,
which is I think that's a great sign going out there,
not having the pre anxiety and not having to be like, oh,
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I have a beer or two just to like before
I head off, just to loosen up a bit. I'm
enjoying the process more. I like, I like going out
and eating and stuff and like, so I look forward
to that. And then it's like, well, someone's going to
be in the realm of a ballpark of like good communications.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
And you'll find out very quickly I want you. Yeah,
you usually know on a date in the first five
to ten minutes.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, so like I don't know about you, but my
like the structure of it is like date ones, the
vibe check and you get that real quick. So that's
a coffee or a drink, so like you get in,
you can have a chat. Obviously, it can go for
longer if you have drinks and it ends up bleeding
into four hours or whatever. Happy days. But if it's
not great, you can get out of there.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Oh I actually drove.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I have a commitment after Yeah, well you know, they
just texted me out. I've got to run here in
like fifteen minutes. So I just want to give your
heads up.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
And I feel like everyone's on board with that.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Like you can be having a good date and still
say that and be like, look, I don't want this
to drag out.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Yeah yeah, but if yeah, the vibe and then something
that the second date is a bit more locked in.
So it's like you go out, you eat or whatever
a commitment you trap there, go be halfway through your.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Panini and be like I'm going see it.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Oh gosh, Yeah, we'll get there, eventually get there. We
will take feedback on board.
Speaker 2 (24:05):
Yeah, we're gonna have some updates like next episode back,
but we have we put it out there, heartwarming stories.
We wanted to hear them, and we got some good
ones back. Dan Mixtaye coming back from his ACL was yeah,
quite amazing what he's being able to do in a
short time. Miss the last game with a bit of soreness,
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but you can see straight away what he does to
the structure of the team coming back in.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Well, whenever Brodie Markscheck went out too, it was almost
so much more important than he came back. You know,
December did an ACL, you know, didn't play in the
Grand File to the pre limit like PCL. I think
it was just had a tough runt, had a very
tough run. I think like everyone saw how already worked
in the gym every single day and it's not easy
to be doing that with you know, such a long injury,
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not being able to see the light at the end
of the tunnel and when he came back, it was
such a confidence booster for us and a you know,
just a spirit lifter more than anything, to say, hey,
this guy's put in the work, like let's you know,
let's do this for him, Like let's win some games
for him. And you know, he was he was massive
in the back end of the year, and I know
he didn't play in the last game, so he had
a bit of awareness. I think it was, but incredible
the man's resilience throughout the year. That was I think
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you talk about highlights of the year, like that one
was the one that just sticks out instantly in my
mind of just someone who's been through a bit of mud,
been through a bit of you know shit, if I'm
being honest with you, and then you know, coming back,
you just you feel so happy for him and his
family and everyone else that's involved to be able to
have that moment.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
And a bit of a throwback Lucky Sullivan's first game
when he came on, kicked that goal and everyone got
around him.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Yeah, snap on Carlton game.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, it's a pretty amazing moment.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
The great story, yeah too.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
And what about Jake Waterman, His season, his couple of
seasons really, but he's just for how he's how tall
he is. I I guess i'd put it as like
a key forward Oscar Allen going down early and then
him being like the.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Main man one out.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
He had a pretty amazing season. Now this one we
can all get around beating Carlton twice. Yeah, I love
that big fan under heartwarmings.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
There's someone I wild say his name. There's someone in
the media that once told me, I said, if you
don't make finals, your best beat Carlton twice. It's like
finals obviously important, right right under that beating Carlton.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Twice, it's just because yeah, you can have it over them,
like Carlton made finals, Yeah, but didn't beat Collingwood.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
That's good to say.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
I think we're I think we're winning in the total overall.
I don't know, I'll have to ask.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Let's jump into Matt Gwealfie's painted nails. That was that
was a special one.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Yeah, I think that one. You talk about Dyson Happle
his retirement stuff and you know the people he got
involved to. That was a beautiful kind of experience. I
think for everyone to be able to see in one
of those feel good stories that get to put out
into the media and you wish there was more of them.
You wish you could see all the different things that
players do for people, because there's so many things. But yeah,
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Gwthy's painted nails like that was pretty cool. I think
was it the Good Friday Appeal game or was it
I know they went to the hospital and he said
he'd do the celebration and all that, and that was
a beautiful moment for sure.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
That was so good, And yeah, it's good.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Sally Pendaal's game four hundred getting the win pretty wild.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
I think he always you look at four hundred, Yeah,
winning after the sign essentially, you know, Carlson didn't didn't
make the kick after the sign. I guess it's the
best way to put it. But you look at that
game four hundred, such a milestone, sixth person I think
ever in the NFL history to do it. Obviously, it's
one on the calendar you kind of circle and go, okay,
like let's you know, like we're looking forward to this one.
(27:44):
And then the fact that it fell against Carlton tight game,
like important game, so cool to see him and his
family kind of get the lotted so they deserve throughout
the week because it's not just him making it to
four hundred. It's his wife, his kids, his parents, like
everyone else that's involved, his brothers, his whole family. It
was cool to have them involved for the week and
really just kind of pay homage to what he's been
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able to accomplish most disposals ever by any player in
the AFL. You know, we talk about players that you talk,
you know, ten years after you retire, like you talk
about how you played with him. He'll be one of
those nick ta cross him, like all these guys that
you Travis Cloak and Swany and all these people you
tell stories about for the rest of your life. He's
made such an incredible impact on so many people. It's
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great whenever he played four hundred to really kind of
show the respect he deserved.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah, it is a good point.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
Shout out to Alex who's put up with him for
four hundred odd games. That's he would have been. That's
a loving wife preak at times. I imagine with his
he's gonna just he's like zero skinfold skin fair.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Imagine how much shit you would have to.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
Eat every morning He's waking up just at the crack
of dog you're trying to sleep in the kids are hooting.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
And holl arod, you would have no wiggle room on
his regime of like fitness and health and all that crap. Anyway,
shout out to Alex. We move over to the Clangers
of the Year. We had a few people send in
one and one was the man that you just mentioned
not long ago, Mitch McGovern's miss.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, that's tough. I feel for him. He's also had
a won his one off his boot and after the Sirens,
so he drew. He drew. Sorry, just felt like a win,
I feel like at that time. But yeah, yeah, that's
going to be tough to tough Phil. So I will
say credit to Carlton's teammates. They all got around immediately
after he kicked out. They're all kind of helping.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
Did you know it's not on him, it's on the team.
They shouldn't have been in that position, but fortunately didn't
take the opportunity. Let's jump to the top. We just
talked about this last episode. But the bottle chucker, what
the heck man can't be chucking?
Speaker 1 (29:42):
What a doing? Man? What are you doing? This isn't
like a European Soccer League's flares going all that stuff.
This is it. This is a sophisticated gang all right here,
can't be doing that, can't be doing that. I think
it's the fact that like, like I'm more I mean,
I'm pissed obviously about the whole situation, but like throwing
anything on the field is unacceptable, and then like hitting
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an umpire that's a goal umpire, like you know, like
the fact that it was that situation just made it
even more infuriating to me. People that, you know, just
do it because they love it. Yeah, you know, I
think there's devid road. Can you imagine the nicest guy
always has a smile, gives the fingers, pistols, gives the
fans that they want. Can you imagine if the bottle
is throwing to them, Oh, you'd be lived.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I reckon it's like.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Throwers in general, because obviously it's that was a hard
shot to hit. He hits the umpire. I still feel
like it should be the same punishment if it misses
the umpire, like unfortunately it causes the incident. But like,
just don't throw stuff, don't throw stuff out in the field.
I don't like people that throw stuff out in the
field in general, don't litter while we're on it.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, that's like litter is anyway.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
That's an absolute clanger. The bloke that said Umpiring has
been the best it's ever been, oh dill still, that
one just annoyed me because it's clearly it wasn't. And
at the time, it was like coming out every week
to say that they stuffed up another thing.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Just a learning moment. It was a learning moment for
him on side.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
God damn.
Speaker 1 (31:15):
I think it was just like the timing and then
what transpired over the next few weeks of you know,
calls that people were you know, very opinionated about it
just didn't go down with the fans well. And I
think with Empire you can't like make a statement like
that in general because like it's you know, it's going
to get dissected so much by the media, so you
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kind of have to give a bit of a you know,
just a bit of it and even say, look, Umpire's
doing the best, They're doing exactly what they can. We're
proud of what they're doing. Yeah, And that's that's kind
of like the way to go about it it.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
I'd like them to come out and be like, look,
we're not making their job any easier. We keep changing
the goalpost for him.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
It's it's one of the hardest capers man. I can't.
I would never in my lifetime think, you know, being
an umpire is easy, just sir, like, yeah, it's such
an opinionated game. You're ever going to make everyone happy.
The best you can do is just not even be noticed.
Like it's like it's a crazy thing, but yeah it was.
You know, it's a learning experience. It's a learning experience
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for everyone.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
I've said some stupid things in my past too.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
Na the West Australian, Now that's a good one because
they went super hard on Adam Simpson when he was
wrapping up at the West Coast and basically said like
see a Simo, as like they were kicking him out
the door.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Such a bad taste in my mouth or where that
was handled, all the all the l's on the front
page and stuff like you gotta be better than that. Yeah.
I do love. I do love the way you clap
back though in the press conference. Yeah, I was live
in that. Yeah, I think there's not many coaches do it.
But whenever you don't have the coaching gig game or
I can say whatever I want. I give my honest
(32:54):
opinion because I'm not like held to the club standards anymore. Yeah,
like it was so good and the fact that all
the media people were like clapping over like laughing too,
and you would have felt like you were just on
your own on an island if you were that person.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
That all the players in the room to back him up.
But the West Australian like the it's not that Northern Territory,
you know, the Northern Territory has their paper and they
come out with like funny puns and ship that's funny.
Like people can get around that. It's not punching down
on anyone or like kicking them while they're down or
I love it anyway. Jesse Hogan stopping his teammate from
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kicking a girl.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Man that was gold that it reminded me of Pendle's
kid after running through the banner and just absolutely launched
the ball into Crispy's head from five meters out from Gold. Oh,
it was absolutely hilarious. Yeah, that's that's that's definitely a clanger.
You can't be give it to Jesse go just learn
win the lear Win, the Coleman. You got to know
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the Colemans in the back of his head.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Just give it to you, Give it to the bloke
that kicked it, not to Jesse Hoakan.
Speaker 1 (33:59):
I'm giving to the block that kicked it. Give it
to your star. You're up by probably a hundred anyway.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
I don't mind it.
Speaker 2 (34:05):
And then obviously the clanger of the year is free
I losing in the last round of port to just
drop finals. Didn't want to play finals apparently, Ah wow,
s this is the I now got months until anyway,
this is the wrap before we go. We've we've put
it out there for people. Mark of the year, Goal
of the year, Brownlow winner. What's yours?
Speaker 1 (34:27):
I want to go, Bobby Hill Mark of the year. Yeah,
I'm going to go Goal of the year.
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Not as obvious, is it, But I think there's.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Not one that really stands. I mean, I always obviously
bias insense of myself of Nick de Costs two bounces,
shoving off someone kicking one on the rhine. Yeah, that
kind of like gets me up and about. But it's
I think there's, like, you know, there's a few.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
Had the ghost game, the Nick Dakos one, with that
one two back forward kick the goal.
Speaker 3 (35:00):
But you're lost.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
So I don't know. I don't know who's going to
win Goldie Year. That's up for debate. There hasn't been
like a obvious just like Eddie bats shimmy, shimmy, two people.
I can break out a tackle snap kind of goal. Yeah,
that kind of comes to mind. But that's gonna be interesting.
One Brown though. I'm hoping Nick day Cass. Yeah, I'll
say if it's not him, but to Pelly.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
Okay, that would be nice to see win it.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Yeah, I think he deserves it.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I'm going to go Bobby Mark because he did the
little extra float in there the landing, yeah, and then
he landed and on his feet but it looked cool.
And then I'm going to give it to Harley Reid
out of the middle.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Yeah he did. I do remember that was unreal the
middle and drilling the girl that was sick.
Speaker 2 (35:41):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
And then give him the best first year player surely, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
We can do it.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
We don't count suspensions in the Mason cock Show.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
I forgot that. Oh my god, you spend it in San.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Darcy, got suspend it.
Speaker 1 (35:56):
So go to someone I probably don't know.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
It's like Carlton making the finals. Did you you lost?
Speaker 2 (36:03):
But anyway, yeah, I hardly reads the best player the
first year, Sam Darcy's close second seven goals already Jesus
and then Brownlow Yeah good point. Ah. I think like
Locky Near, he was good late, but they were not
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great early. So that's the only thing that kills me.
And if they're going to be more mindful of Nick
Dacos this year after you know, it's normally their lag period,
it's like a year later they give them more votes.
But he would have won it last year if it
wasn't for the injuries.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
Let's do like a.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Little wrap the season in retrospect looking back. Obviously not
you know, happy, not content with not making the finals
coming off a Grand Final.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Just how hard was the season personally?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
But then how hard did you find the whole thing
coming back from the prelim loss the year before?
Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, and going again.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
I think the early start was not a deal. But
obviously there's other teams that had to do it too.
I'm I wasn't really a massive fan of the Round
zero experience. We'll be interesting to see if they keep
it for next year, but I think the shorter kind
of time frame with that, and the teams you're probably
wanting to play in Round zero, probably the teams that
went further in finals, you know. So I think that
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was kind of a frustrating kind of thing to deal with.
I guys like less less off season. Obviously you want
Maximin's off season the rest. So that was interesting start.
We probably as a team didn't start the way we
wanted to with a few losses on the on the books,
but you know they had they had the injury of
the big injury of our cheek bone and knee and
ribs and concussion, and that knocked me about for a
(37:44):
long time. So it was the first kind of his
first concussion I've ever had. And I think that whole
process of going through it, like we've always been quite
strict of saying like we need to look after players'
health and mental health and concussions and all this stuff,
and I think that almost made me just double down
on it now.
Speaker 3 (38:00):
Yea.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
It took me for four or five weeks whoever it was,
to just kind of get back to normality. And you
see the friends that played football, you see kind of
how that's affected them. You know, you talk about Nathan
Murphy and you talk about Josh Carmichael who retired from
our team. Because it can cush in you, you realize
how important it is for us to recognize and be
able to, I guess, try to get this thing as
(38:21):
early as possible. And myself going through that this year
I think was a real realization point for me of
just the impact you can kind of have on you
and that kind of that threw me around for quite
a bit. So the rehab of that was quite tough.
I will say the knee. One interesting thing I'll take
a positive out of it was it was cool to
(38:42):
see every single week a new accomplishment, right, So, I mean,
it first happens, you can't even like bend it at all,
second week you can bend it to you know, closer
to forty five, and then the next week better, and
the next week better, and it was like every week
you could see a major accomplishment that you were being
able to do. So that was kind of a pause
the thing I think through that time of you know,
the darkness of rehab and doing things on your own
(39:04):
and all that, like that was kind of a cool
moment for me to say, you can see an improvement
and a short amount of period that you probably don't
see very often in your career now.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
And it's yeah, it's different to all your other injuries
when you talk about like your spleen is the unknown,
your eyes or the unknown, like, yeah, it's at least
an injury that you people have had, they how to
rehab region it's proper.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
Yeah. Yeah, So that was interesting. And then you come
back towards the end of the year and you have
this kind of like, hey, we need to make finals,
and we need to do it now, you know, like
times running out, so the pressure was on. I think
we performed pretty well over the last little chunk when
we all got back, So for me, I was pretty
proud of myself to get back out there with you know,
the things that were going on and being able to
sort it. But I think overall, like mentally, it was
(39:46):
a Yeah, it was a tough year at times. Not
always the easiest whenever you don't make finals, especially with
the expectations of after last year, not always easy. But
you look back and you say, look, it's it's just
it's a I filled a swallow, but you have to
and at the end of the day, you take it
as motivation for the next year, and you go, okay, like,
you know, these are things maybe we didn't do as
(40:07):
well as we'd like, and yeah, this is room for improvement.
And yeah, like I've said before, it's not going to
be the same faces every year, So you know, I'm
sure we'll get some new faces. I'll come in and
hopefully be able to help us out try to get
back to where we were. But overall, the oh the
year you wish you'd be playing finals. You know, not
to say that it's a oh or nothing kind of thing. Obviously,
there's a lot of success in the year and a
lot of things that you are proud about, But overall,
(40:30):
I think you're the one they will stick out for you.
Eternity is going on twenty twenty four. We didn't make finals. Yeah,
and that's the statement everyone will say, and that's yeah,
that's just the truth. You've got to be able to
take it.
Speaker 3 (40:42):
So where does the improvement come from for next year?
Speaker 1 (40:46):
Yeah, I hopefully we have a bit more consistency with
the group with injuries and everything else. There's a lot
of stuff along that line, and yeah, hopefully that's kind
of one of the main things for us I think
is just being able to have a team that's played
together for an extended period and hopefully has had success together,
you know, winning games, and that puts you in a
really good stance for finals and allows you to go
(41:08):
on a bit of a run. So that's the one
thing I look at and I go, I hope that
we can have that next year. Obviously it's out of
our control, but hopefully we can do that, which allows
for more consistency, which allows for us to kind of
feel confidence with the people who are playing with and
you know, feel like we'rell on the same page in
that sense during the back end of the year, hopefully
with wins under a belt.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
What do you think you need?
Speaker 2 (41:30):
Obviously Jordy comes back, gets back in there with Nick,
you got some pretty good midfield talent, got some good
wing talent.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
So is it more getting just.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Your key pillars back up for you, get Brodie back,
you get Dan out there more often, got some good
small forwards, and then maybe shore up defense a bit.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
With obviously Murph going out.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
We had quite a few tolls kind of go down
this year, so we lacked height probably for a decent
chunk of the season. Good for me to realize that
something we locked. But you know, Nathan Murphy going out,
I think we'll have to probably fill a key back
role because we only you know, they essentially have Jeremy
how Darcy Moore, Billy Frampton are kind of like the
big bigs that play back, and so we'll probably have
to find another one to help kind of those stocks.
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You know, we talk about a big ford. Who knows
if we'll go and grab one of those. I'm not
sure you know you have the likes of Christian Petroc
of you know, oh my go, he's the interesting in calling,
is always going to throw the callingwood name around, but
you just never know what happens. So yeah, it'd be interesting.
I mean, if you just sit there and ask me
about the Petroka thing, like I think every single player
in the AFL would go, yeah, I'd love to have
(42:36):
Christian Petroc on my teable. He's one of the best
players of the league. Of course, you're going to say, yeah,
So we'll be interested to see how all those kind
of trades and everything else kind of pans out over
the next little chunk, and you'll be a few new
faces next year. But hopefully you know, it helps us win,
you know, more games and be able to get to
where we want to be as a player.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
During the off season, do you watch the trade period
with keen interest, thinking who's going to come in, who's gonna.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
Once it's settled. Yes, you'll send the messages out, try
to catch up with them and things like that. But
I think, well, it's speculated. You don't want to like
get into it too much.
Speaker 4 (43:08):
You know.
Speaker 1 (43:08):
It's one of those things where you go, okay, yeah,
like until it's actually setting stone in the contract so
you've signed it and you're gonna be on our team
next year, you probably don't pay attention to it too
much because you know how much just smoke is blown, right,
Like there's no like legitimacy to all these comments and
statements being made by people. They're trying to drum up
some story that doesn't exist, you know, and these things.
(43:30):
So you got to take everything with a great, you know,
grain of salt, and I don't know, I don't really
probably pay attention to it too much until you get
back and you kind of meet them. You go kind
of like, you know, what are you about? What your
character ist? You know, like what do you what is
your kind of character and stuff like that, and you
kind of see how well you volved with them really,
so it'll be interesting see kind of what happens.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
It's going to be because you don't have any draft picks,
so you're going to have to if you're going to
do something that's going to come through the trade period,
which is for fans out they're the most exciting period.
Draft is so so because it's a you just planting
the seed and you've got to wait to see what
it grows into. Going through the trade period, you can
just go get some bona fide talent, So that'll be
(44:12):
great wrapping things up. Obviously what you just said, disappointing season,
but you know, build towards next year. What are you
doing for Are you going to watch the Grand Final?
Are you going to watch the finals? Are you going
to be in Australia? No, you take off when for.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
The Gan Final, So Timothy, I'll be back in America,
so I probably won't see too many finals. I'll I'll
try to watch as much as I can. Obviously I
don't think he has an international subscription, but we'll see.
I'll watch as much as I can. I think the
Grand Final, like, I'll be back in Texas, so I'll
definitely try to watch that, but I'll be interested to
see kind of how finals pan out because it's really
a bit of a crap shoot. Who is going to
win it. There's no clear cut favorite at the moment,
(44:49):
so it's going to be an interesting thing for fans
to be able to look after. But I think after
not making it, you have a little bit of a
you know, jealousy towards the time, like the teams are
in the eight and you know, sometimes just kind of
pushing that aside and just ignoring it sometimes can be
good and healthy. So I'll watch a little bit of
it if I feel up to it mentally, but if not,
I'll just kind of push it aside.
Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, it is a good point, and normally it's if
there's a team in there that you're like, oh, we
beat that and stuff like that. Yeah, the Grand Final,
it's like May the Grandfather is going to be interesting
because if it is like a port VGWS, it's like
Kenny either gets his flag or GWS gets there first.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Like there's a few stories like that throughout it.
Speaker 2 (45:32):
But it should be a very exciting final series because
there's some competitive teams in there, so I can't wait
to see it.
Speaker 1 (45:38):
It's going to be great. But yeah, that's that's it
from us.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Man, that's us another big year. What do we three
that's the end of our third year.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Into the third year.
Speaker 3 (45:47):
Well, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (45:48):
I know. I know, we have obviously Finals to go through,
but we're going to take a break. We're gonna I'm
going to go overseas. You're going to do some more
work with the with the company, I know. So a
bit of an apology, i'd say to the listeners that
want to listen to the podcast throughout the finals campaign,
I think we need a bit of a break to
be able to reset, a bit of a detox from
everything that's going on. That's been a bit of a
(46:08):
full on year. So apologies to the fans out there.
I do want to hear for the next four weeks,
but for us, I think for our mental health and
everything else, we're going to take a bit of a
break and look after ourselves as everyone I feel like
it's at home should hopefully understand, and if you're in
the same position, please do.
Speaker 2 (46:21):
It is surprisingly easier to talk about Finals when you're
in them.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
Yeah it's a lot better. It's a lot more exciting,
that's for sure. But massive, massive thank you everyone for
understanding that, and appreciate you as always being part of
this community and listening in every single week. You're absolute
legends and we love and respect the hell out of
THEA and we really appreciate all the love you you
give to us in return.
Speaker 2 (46:43):
Love the support from the fans, and yeah, it's going
to be weird not doing it week on week as
it always is when we do. You're not you know,
normally rap for the year. But it's been a great well,
it's been a great year of footy. It's been like
wild up and down. You don't know what's coming, what's
happening week to week, so many close things, so many
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big talking points.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
But yeah, another massive year for the pod.
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Pretty nuts, pretty nuts to wrap it all up, but
here we are. Man, wouldn't a pictured of this one day.
One day we'll get to it, but no, massive thank
you as always to everyone out there listening. I really
appreciate the love and support throughout the year and sharing
this amazing podcast with some of your friends and family.
A massive, massive thank you, so thank you for being
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an incredible listener, for being a credible audience. Our love
goes to you. Have an amazing final series and we
won't talk to you untill probably after Christmas, So have
an incredible little holiday period, show some love to the family,
spend some quality time with them, and we'll be back
hopefully come February and be able to entertain the hell
out of you again. Stay safe, Stay safe, Legends speak
(47:54):
to you soon. Yeah,