Trump Reaction 😲 Streak Broken 🙌 Mason's Return 🙏

On this week's episode of the Mason Cox Show, Brayden and Mason react to the shocking Trump news. Mason gives an update on his potential return, they discuss all the hot topics currently happening in the AFL and celebrate the end of an incredible streak.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, let's just welcome back to the Mason Cox Show.
We have a big episode today. We have things all
football and also we talk about a bit of politics
Trump what happened over the weekend absolutely insane. We'll get
into that. We also talk about a lightning strike that
hit an AFL player who had an incredible game over
the weekend. There's plenty of that. And last so we're
going to talk about my injury, whether or not I'll
be playing this week, and how I'm feeling. There's a

(00:27):
lot in this episode, but before we get into it,
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(00:49):
please do for those that haven't yet. So without further ado,
we will get into this podcast starting now. Okay, Legends,
thanks for tuning out as always, but we'll get straight
into this one. Welcome Brydon oh Mace.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
We have actually so much packed into this episode, probably
too much, as per usual, too much. But we'll get
straight into the clangers because I love Ross Line. We
are a big fan of ROSSI, and there may be
a ross Lin klanger, so I'm going to try and
stretch it so it's not a Ross Line clanger. Because
there was a couple of incidents in his game. So
Kilda went back to a bit of the smelly stuff

(01:28):
last over the weekend, kicked thirty odd points or whatever,
but there was a moment in the box where he
may have got a bit miffed, rightfully so, and smashed
the phone on the desk and it just exploded into
a million pieces. Now Ross we know sploded. He's on
the good stuff, and he found the humor in it,

(01:50):
which is Ross Line, the new Ross Line, and he
put it all back together like it was a piece
of lego, and then not long later smashed it again.
Then he had to reach into the back row and
ask one of the assistants if he could borrow their phone.
Really reminiscent of me back on the PlayStation, back in
the day, when you'd throw the controller down on the
ground and then you'd like still be miffed, and then

(02:11):
you realize that you need the controller to play the game,
and then do the you know, the walk with your
tail between your legs over to pick up the controller.
He did a bit of that, but I'm gonna clang
whoever's making those phones. He hardly hit it on the
desk and it's a light shouted into a million pieces.
He needs some harder phone stuff. If it was a
KNOCKI a thirty two ten. He could slam that thing

(02:33):
on the desk and it'll break the desk. So I
think things are getting cheaper, So I'm I'm blaming the economy.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
Haven't got inflation. He's an angel, you imagine sitting there
and he's got to douse someone else's phone. So he goes, oh,
such such assistance on the phone. You're like, oh, man,
I'm going to get an absolute just pomp up here,
and it's ross. You go, what the effort? You just
like at you, Oh, someone I expected.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
He's asking for your phone. I'm like, I brought my
phone from home. This one's my one. I don't want
you to smash.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I'll get it to Mike Clanger was during the Callingwood
versus Geelong game. No We talked about some of the
best swingmen last week, and the big man, Mark Blitzabs
came up as one of the best swingmen over the weekend.
He was trying to play every single role from every
single sport. I think by the time he was finishing
the game, he had one point. There's a free kick,
and he grabbed the ball and threw it, but themar

(03:31):
had already called play on so it was not illegal disposal,
you could say. And he threw it back and it
was just one of those moments you could just see
the brain fart in his head and he's just gone, yeah, Caps,
just cruise back and defense and sort this out.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah. And I think a couple of the boys around
him it was like Nick Dacos and Steel was like
so happy. They were like, oh my god, they just
turned it over.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's a free kick against I've just got it back
two seconds later.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
That's good. You can get where we can get it.
You can't take every roll, blitz You need to hand
some off on not the way that you handed them off,
but handballs. Let's get through some of the results. Because
Collingwood they took the l we won't go into that
one yet. Hawthorne. They got the w over Frio in
a tight game down in tazzy Sydney back to winning ways,

(04:17):
smashed North Melbourne Western Bulldogs, massive win over Carlton, Adelaide
got it done over Ross's boys in pouring rain, terrible,
terrible conditions. Melbourne with a big win over Essendon who
just weren't quite there. Gold Coast big win over Port
who they were fighting hard. They were really fighting hard,

(04:39):
both you know, on the scoreboard and Horny Frank through
a fews of the ground. But we'll get into that later.
Richmond they put in a competitive competitive performance against my boys,
the Giants, but they're back on a roll. And West
Coast Eagles almost spoiled Brisbees. They for Simo, we got

(05:00):
out there. He didn't coach, but he'd tossed the coin.
He did all the important stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
We could have gone into one hundred klangers on the
way that situation was handled over the last week. Don't
get me wrong, but I think Simmo I just love
his comedic value of like, yeah, I'm getting absolutely screwed here,
and he's just acknowledged it essentially publicly, and they've asked
him to do what as a bit of a thank
you for giving us a premiership and everything else. Flipping

(05:27):
a coin in the next game after you got sacked.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, it's very much like getting invited to the Christmas
party after you got the sack. Oh my god, It's
like he was there with his vintage jumper. He got
to keep the coin. So I guess ten years of
coaching's all worth it because you get to keep that coin.
But yeah, he was always up the back and they
kept cutting to the angle of him in the crowd.

(05:52):
I think one thing that I can confidently say is
that the newspaper article that obviously the West rolled out
there was dog shit, actually ended up working in his
favor because it brought everyone together. Whereas like there could
have been some like awkwardness and all that stuff. Everyone
rallied and galvanized over their hatred for the print media,

(06:15):
and then like every time so Simo was on the screen,
everyone gave him like a big clap and cheer. It
was awesome to see. So I'm glad it was a
little awkward, But thank you to the Western Australian.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
For writing the article.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Well, like I think.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
From you this week, this is very unusual.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Well backfired on them because I you know, they were
a bit petty because their boy wouldcock got called out
in the in the press conference for right and all
the negative.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Gen everyone clapped the fact that you're absolute prick, especially.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
You think it's like you're it's almost like your home field.
You're like, you've got journos and stuff around you, but
there's still all the players rock up and give you
a standing a Let's jump into some big talking points
from throughout the week, because we've seen some new interpretations,
some running changes on the fly. We always love to
see that we've seen obviously every time you have a

(07:10):
different interpretation or a rule change or anything, there's always
a clubs and players figure it out pretty quick and
then figure out a loophole and how to take advantage
of that situation. And we're seeing this chicken wing kind
of tackle that has always been praised. Whenever it's everyone

(07:31):
would always call it the perfect tackle. It's the perfect tackle.
You hold one arm behind their back so that they
can't really do anything with it, and it's being rewarded
for the most part. At the moment with players, when
you're watching the game, it's like, why win the ball?
There was a couple of instances on in the Collingwood
Geelong game, Steel picked up the ball, was already immediately tackled,

(07:55):
one arm behind his back, got ping for holding the
ball when previously there was probably no prior. But that
seems to have taken a back seat. There was Nick Dekos. Yeah,
picked up the ball immediately chicken wing and he was
on his knees. Zero things you can do in that
circumstance holding the ball because he had one arm free.

(08:16):
Now we're just it's going to get murkier and murkier.
But I can see injuries coming in as players are
getting rewarded with three kicks for these like you've got
one arm free but one arms pinged and we're going,
I reckon, We're going to start seeing people get slung
into the ground with one arm like pinned behind their back.
They're going to have their head just super exposed. There's

(08:36):
going to be more suspensions for those tackles. You bring
in one rule or in difference in interpretation and it
opens up fifty different issues.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah, well, I think this is like, so you say
there's two sides of the coin of everything, right, So
obviously this year everyone is quite aware that the umpire
is a bit hard on, you know, not falling on
the ball and like needing to get the ball out
of your hands otherwise they'll call free kick. So you know,
now that people have realized that's the case, and umpires
are on it, and they're continuously being on it, they've gone, okay,
hold on. So if I allow him just to get

(09:08):
it and then I tackle him right away, if he
doesn't get rid of it, then it's holding the ball,
or if he doesn't do it legally too, that's holding
the ball. So it's like, okay, well, maybe I'll just
so it's going in there and like smash. It's like
I can almost get a free kick here if I
just wait for him to grab it and then lock
him up right away. And there's a real kind of
I don't know, like you're not one hundred percent sure
that half second to a second of having the ball
of whether or not you have prior opportunity or not.

(09:30):
I think there's a big kind of judgment there that
the umpires are probably you know, trying to sort out,
and the players are sitting there and some of the
players on the weekend, you know, whenever you lay a
tackle you're going, oh, snap, Like I kind of thought
we'd get a ball up here, but I'm getting a
free kick. So yeah, there's there's two sides to the
to the spectrum as always, and I think there's teams
now being able to see kind of advantages and in
that being able to use the fact that teams are

(09:52):
going to have to forcefully get the ball out as
quickly as they can.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Yeah, it's going to be very interesting because, yeah, I
say it, players don't want to take play to ground,
so they're just holding them up in the tackle, which
means they've got an arm free and they have to
try and get rid of it. But I just don't
understand what the point of winning the ball is. If
you're always going to win the ball, that's all you always.
If you can't get rid of it and you're just
going to get like ping for holding the ball, it's

(10:17):
given you very little incentive to actually win it. We'll
move into something that Chris got brought up postgame in
the Collingwood game. It always helps when the winning coach
brings up an issue because it doesn't mean they're just salty,
and he brought up the fact that there seemed to
be a lot of non fifteen meters calls throughout the

(10:39):
course of the night, and it started hot straight away.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
So I think Bobby kicked Jamie that was about fifteen
meters and they said play on and the goal.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
And normally that on the opposite side, if it's like
bird into fifteen, they normally say that's close enough. Whereas
Chris came out and said that Chris Scott, I don't
we're not buddies.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
Chris all mate, oh mate, Scott.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
He came out and said that it hadn't been communicated
to the clubs, which is always the interesting thing. And
we have talked about this throughout the course of the year,
where interpretations will be changed, there will be hotter rules
than others on any certain night. It's just important to
tell the players where I think now it's at the

(11:30):
point where if there's going to be a difference in interpretation,
or there's going to be we always call it like
the hot rule for the night or whatever. We need
to be telling everyone. It can't be like we'll figure
it out on the Friday night game. Watch the Friday
night game. Figure it out. AFL should be releasing a
statement heading into the weekend to everyone, so fans know

(11:52):
it's coming and they can react accordingly. They're not thinking
they're getting screwed over or the umpires are against them.
If we're looking at it from we're trying to protect
the umpires here, so you can save them a hell
of a lot of abuse. If you're saying the AFL's
come out and we're telling the umpires to adjudicate it
this way this weekend so everyone knows. Is that the

(12:13):
way that we're going to have to start handling this.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
I think it's probably the best way. It just kind
of allows for that clarity between the fans, the clubs,
and you know, umpires and just being able to get
everyone on the same page, because if you do, you know,
send the memo out to the club and then the
colts go to update their players and it's this whole
thing where you know, if it was a public statement
like not only obviously is it going to have the
same effect as if it's released within the club, because

(12:35):
you'll see it on social media wherever it may not be. Also,
I think it's just good for the fans to be
aware of it too, so then whenever you get to
the football you know this Let's say it's fifteen minute
kick and they call it under fifteen meters. The fans
understand why it's happening, not going that's odd, that's not
fifteen meters, that's fifteen meters. But whatever it is, they're
not beraiding the people on the ground because they're in

(12:57):
this the loop just as much as the players, the
umpires and everyone else it's involved in the industry. So
you would think you just make a public statement, But
I understand whenever you make a public statement, then that
causes five six days of people reacting to it and
then the media does a big thing. So like it
can be somewhat negative. I guess from that standpoint of
people coming at you for changing the rules, But what
would you rather be proactive or reactive to after it happens.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, we all know communication is key in every facet
of life. But I would have thought that they would
like the AFL like to be the talking point in
all things sport. I would think that they would like
to be the talking point on the way into games,
and save the umpires, being the talking point on the
way out of games. But that's just me and who

(13:41):
am I. We'll talk about these three teams because I
want to get your opinion on this. We're going to
be on Wooden Spoon watch because we've got a number
one draft pick in the way that the system's all
set up. And we saw last year North Melbourne costs
themselves Harley reed, which in hindsight may have cost them
dearly because he turns out he's a pretty good So

(14:04):
we look ahead to this year and we've still got North,
the Eagles, and the Tigers that are all down the
bottom of the ladder fighting for this number one pick. Now,
they've all had patches throughout the year where they've actually
been quite competitive. They've had a little run and can
cost themselves a number one pick. Are we still going
to do this again? Is North going to make the

(14:25):
same mistakes they've been very competitive? Or like, what do
we want? Do we still think that wins on the
board are better than draft picks in the pocket? And
out of those three teams, who do we think needs
the pick the most? Because I'm thinking it's not North anymore?

Speaker 1 (14:39):
Now, don't I don't think North needs anymore. I think
more than anything, they just need experience in their players.
They've had so many people that are young and youth
will come through there and get drafted, and they're playing
quite a young squad that now. More than anything, like
you just want them to gain confidence through wins to
say like, no, no, we can have a season where
we kind of you know, make a push for finals.
And you know, they've they've had it, They've pushed teams.
I think in the first half of the season like

(15:00):
they were you know, like they didn't have a single game.
I feel like that they were blown out in so
North was really hanging in there. The Eagles have done
the same thing for a fair chunk of it. Now
the Eagles are kind of in between i'd say, like
whether or not they need new people or not, Like
I think they you know, obviously they've got a few
people who just signed now, but Harley Reed's always going
to be that person that they look to try to
put as many games into and you know, he is the.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Future of the club.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
I feel like the Tigers obviously a bit of rebuilding.
They're going to probably want a number one draft pick
come through there for a bit of something positive and yeah,
you know, something to look forward to whenever it comes
to their club. So I almost go North, No, Eagles
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Tigers.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
Yes, yeah, I get a lot.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
It's not a compensation pick, so that's something very different.
And I'm glad now looking at North that there's like
you don't give these compensation picks out lightly. Yeah, there's
been teams that are well down the bottom of the
ladder and dwell down there for a long time, like North,
and you might want to consider giving them a pick,
But I think you look at their list, you look
at the coach that they've got in there. They got

(16:03):
all the right things in there. You don't need to
be screwing with other people's draft position just to look
after them. I think they're in a pretty good spot.
And then the other two have had success, so they
had the success and have fallen down. So I'm happy
for no priority picks for them, and they need to
spend some time down the bottom, but I still think
Eagles probably need it. But they do have a pretty

(16:25):
good spine. Like they got Barass, they got Waterman, they
got Oscar Allen, they got Tim Kelly who's still got
years left, and then they got Harley Reid, so they
got a pretty good spine set up as well. So yeah,
I think, yeah, I think the Tigs are probably in
a bit of world to hurt at the moment, and
they'll probably like they'll lose some of their forward structure.
So anyway, we'll wait and see.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
For new fresh faces to come through there, right.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Wait and see. You want some excitement, we look, we
talk about excitement because this blow is one of the
most exciting blokes in the league. We talk about Horny Frank.
Horn francis our boy. Now there's he's must have been
spending a bit too much time with Zach Butters Fickers
over the week. Last week we were talking about Zach
Butter's going for the record. It's like he's trying to

(17:08):
lose money, just punching blokes and scragging him around. You
can get under his skin. Well, it turns out you
can kind of get under Horny Frank's skin too, because
he was rough and blokes up and just he's just
rolling him out of the way. Now, yeah, I don't
know what Kenny Hinckley is doing down there. If they
got they got too much sugar.

Speaker 1 (17:30):
Maybe it's a sugar cut down of the lowly.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Will cut out the celery and peanut butter instead of snakes, giants,
killer pythons, and we need less sugar down there. Gatorade,
no sugar, powerade. We're on the powerades? Are can we
say that I can say what I prefer. You can't
say what you prefer, honestly, and I'm a big Gatorade guy.

(17:56):
I don't know about power too sweet. Anyway, we we
got to get on the prime can we when's the falgus?
Many people to try to get a sponsorship. Players scull
a bottle of coke before they head out there. Anyway,
we just need some. We're just we're putting it on
the radar. Horny Frank. We need to settle down, mate,
You Zach Butters will put you in an anger management course.

(18:18):
I don't know if there's a few other Charlie looks
like he's if he starts to get as angry as
the other two. Run one scary bloke. We move on
to a good Is it a good news story?

Speaker 1 (18:33):
It is, we'll talk about why it might not be
at the same time.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
It's quite remarkable. So for anyone that watched the Richmond game,
Steely Green, which is an amazing name for.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Starters still side bottom, but is.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
Could we get away with calling our kids steely steely
Cock's steal steely so steely cock, no way, steely green
out there pick three goals in his third game of footy,
which I thought was amazing. I didn't know much background
until I heard Luke Darcy talk about it on commentary,
said that he was a former competitive sailor. Now that's

(19:10):
a pretty unique pathway into the ave. But he was
a former competitive sailor who also got struck by lightning
out on the water, insane and survived. Clearly, he survived.
You kicked three goals in his third game, but fell
into the water. It was a whole thing, pretty wild, Like,
that's that's the That's the craziest pathway into the AFL

(19:32):
that I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (19:33):
I just like, being struck by lightning just blows my mind, Like,
how do you like? That is such like an electrical
current going through your body?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, I've held an electric fence.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Have you pissed on her electric ac.

Speaker 2 (19:49):
As a kid? You do the whole thing. Yeah, it's
not great, but that feels like that could have killed me.
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
And it reminded me of a story I've read recently,
because lightning strikes are thing I actually had a friend
that was on jetski he got struck by lightning this
year and it was like very serious. Right, But there's
one man who has the Guinness Book or sorry, Guinness
World Record for being struck by lightning. Can you guess
how many times he's been struck? No, what like seven times?

(20:17):
Seven times in his life? His name is Roy Cleveland Sullivan,
Big Sully. He's been struck seven times. Worked it Shinandoah
National Park. You think after two or three, you go,
maybe it's time for retirement. This man went to seven
and it wasn't even the thing that killed him. Oh
waits past? Why now? But like the light being strikes

(20:41):
worth the thing that actually killed him, Like it's insane.
He has a photo who's like whole ranger cap is
just scarred with black on it, and he's like that,
you gotta work tomorrow. I can't miss a day.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
Maybe it's time we retire the metal hat limum hat
any stick. We wish you the best out.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
For roles in the third game. Congratulations, that's a heck
of an accomplishment.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Man.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
We wish you all the best in the future ahead.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Maybe skip the games where it's raining, just just to
be safe. Let's move on because there is one more
thing that I want to bring up, because there was
a very serious thing that happened over the course of
the weekend, and it was Donald Trump's assassination attempt.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Wild pretty crazy. I was insane, like like, are we
living in a Netflix special of some sort? Like I
don't feel like this is a real situation that we're
living in.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, and especially especially because like when it happened, like
all the news came out and it was like it
was it just felt like it was another thing, Like
it didn't feel like the world should have stopped because
a president was almost assassinated. President. Yeah, well you're a
president forever, but like that feels like a thing that
should have stopped the world. But half the people were

(21:58):
split into like, ah, here's just faking it.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
I think the biggest thing is everyone was like conspiracy
right away. Everyone was just and the fact that the
first thing that people think of is that it's got
to be a conspiracy, it's got to be a lie,
no chance, right.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
And I think that's just America.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah. Well, I mean if there's any person that just
calls people a liar, you would probably say that person
has been similar in their character as Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
So he got shot what twice in this in the
skull and people are like, no, that's not him, that
that was a an alien did it?

Speaker 1 (22:33):
It was the guy from the grass you know the
book Depository.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
This is the thing that right an it was like
a weirdo on a roof.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, I mean he was. He was spotted very quickly,
and you know it was you can't don't lie into
these things, mate, don't these things.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
It was.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
It was pretty reacted to it. Don't get me wrong.
I think there probably should have been more security there.
But they found him and you know, executed the situation
and a guest secret service does Look, I will say
this style like, I know there's a lot of commentary
and jokes about it, but like, you don't wish anyone
to be shot in this life, right, Like I know

(23:10):
everyone has a laugh of everything that's going on, how
crazy the America is in the situation that's going on
over there, But you know, I don't want to wish
that upon anyone. But it is a wild time in
our history to be reading these headlines and seeing what's
going on over there and just the whole experience of
it and now living in like in Australia and seeing
it as like kind of a third person to the

(23:31):
whole ideas of everything going on. It doesn't even seem real, No,
it seems like just a fictional story that is being
written up in front of us.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Could you imagine Elbow standing out there doing a speech
and someone has a shot at him.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
It's kind of very hard since guns are very hard
to come by in this country wild. But I will
say this though, I remember there was a Prime Minister
once when I first came here, is Malcolm Turnbull. And
I was going through the Arts gallery in Melbourne, right.
So I was over there and just kind of checking
out some of the different stuff and I saw, you know,
this guy walk through and he had a camera guy

(24:08):
behind him, and he had another person that was a
security guard with him and a few other kind of
people shone around. I didn't know who this was, you know,
So I go over to the security person. I said,
I'll just out of curiosity, like who is this, you know?
And he looks at me and he's like, are you serious.
I was like, yeah, because he's the Prime Minister of Australia.
He had one security guard with him, walking around in
a public art gallery. Yeah, that is absurd. I looked

(24:32):
at him. I was like, sorry, this guy runs the
country and he's just casually walking around like a Sunday
afternoon with no one really protecting him. Like I could
have walked up to him and sugar his aunt. No
one would even looked at me.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Twice they knew saying footballers need to be protected at
the game. So you got the PM goes out there.
They used to knock on John Howard's door and he
used to come out in his track so you can
go for a run around Canberra Lake just casually.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, they're like down to wake up all.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
He still does it. That's not even like the thing
that used to happen. That's pretty well people he was
trying to pick up anyway. Yeah, I would talk. Yeah,
I don't know. There's so much.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
There is so much we can cover with that. More
will come out during the week. But it was something
we have to mention because it was such a historical moment.
The photo was incredible.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
When you talk about photo ops and opportunities and a
guy that knows like how to market that was incredible.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
It was just might be time photo of the year.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Let's get into the big winners because Hawthorne they caught
up to the back of the pack. And we all
know that the pack is only two games from second
down to thirteen, which is pretty wild. Hawthorne sitting in
thirteen only behind on percentage cicily, wasn't that havn't the
biggest impact got swung forward kicked three goals late, was
a massive influenced in the Yeah, another swing man. He

(26:01):
was brought up last week, Nick Watson, who you know,
give us your feedback break. Well, you wouldn't describe him
as someone with ice in his veins. It's seven goals nineteen,
but he did manage to kick a goal one one
I think for the day and did the whole ice
in the Vans celebration. Yeah. If it's like like ironic
if he's doing it, you know, because it's funny because

(26:23):
he's like he kicked one five or whatever the other week. Yeah,
that's hilarious. I just don't know with these Hawks guys,
but I love what the Hawks are doing. Yeah, they've
got quite a bit at the moment. I did see him.
They I think it's the second time or whatever. They
maybe it's their thing. They're taking a big selfie, big
group selfie after the game, like all the lads are

(26:43):
in taking a selfie. Then I noticed after this game
they were doing that, and then a lady swooped in
and just snatched the phone out of their hands. So
I think it looked like she worked for the Hawks.
So I reckon they've been like, let's we're not doing
that on the phone out on the grind or something.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
We're not doing that, Guinea girl pro Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
But that was just another interesting factor in this one.
Lloyd Mek, big plumber man.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
He's been killing it this year, Old Mek. He's been
going really well a few he's had a few plumber games,
a few fifty taps.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
I like, just the big traditional bulkies, stocky Rugby. He
is a big boy, a big boy. They're always good.
So that's a great game for Hawthorne. Hawthorne back into
the pack. So the ladder gets deeper as all these
teams failed to fire. Speaking of failure to fire.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
You've been on this Murchis back for the last three weeks.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I loved it because I feel like I noticed it
before anyone else. And then it was mentioned on the
broadcast when he missed, like I think he missed one
or two goals for the game or whatever it was,
and he ended up slotting on and Huddo was all
around it kicked Travis bo kicked his first goal for

(27:58):
the year, one goal thirteen, So massive moment. We love
Bokey was Sam, We're going to get around him last
week if he got the job done. And boy did
he get the job done. Great goal. There was a
couple where I when I was sitting there watching it,
I'm like, he's running into a goal and he missed
and I was like, fuck, it's in his head, he knows,

(28:18):
he knows. And then after he kicked his goal, big double.
It's off the back now Trav, Now you'll go and kick. Yeah.
I think it was Lewis Jedter that kicked. I think
from debut it was like zero goals nineteen or something
before he kicked his first goal in AFL for he
didn't stop trying. He just kept going. Let's go into

(28:41):
Sydney because they had an important duo joined the team again.
We had Luke Parker was a late replacement for Sam
Wick started as the sub came on in the third quarter,
kicked two goals. I had thirteen disposals. Cal Mills Skipper
came back after his little wrestle Frakka the Mad Monday
celebrations heard his shoulder first game back, kicked the goal

(29:05):
twelve touches. So two massive inns for Sydney who are
already you know, flying. They had a couple of losses,
a little blip, and then they had a big win
over North. Everyone likes to come up against North when
they need a little win. I just did want to
ask you out of those two because I think Luke
Parker mentioned it that it does play on your mind

(29:26):
a bit. Can you get back into this team that's
up and firing. There's been moments throughout your career that
the similar stuff has happened. How much does it play
on your mind? Because I know that it would. How
much does it play on your mind?

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, I think back to probably the most recent one
was last year. Like last year, I dropped to the VFL,
and around midway through the year, I'd say, and then, yeah,
it does kind of play on your mind. But I
think you have to have those open and honest conversations
with the coaching staff and the coaches and see where
you are out and what you need to work on.
And I think that the pointier the season gets and
the further to get along, the closer to the end,

(29:59):
you kind of dig it a bit stressed around that
of going okay, like, you know, it's it's a pretty
solidified team. You almost have to like have someone injured
or something to replace them, because they're not going to
want to change the people in the you know, in
the different roles and positions if they're winning games. So yeah,
it does play on people's minds for sure. And I
think you obviously want to be there winning with the
team and part of the whole experience, right, And if

(30:20):
you know there's someone in front of you that's doing
you know, a better job, or you know, hasn't had
a stuff up or hasn't got injured or anything like that,
you're kind of going, okay, like, where's my opportune going
to be whenever it comes to, hopefully the end of
the year and being part of something special and finals.
So I can totally understand where he's coming from, but
it is good to see him back. He's obviously, you know,
a big name up there for Sydney, and you know,

(30:40):
I think they're better with him in the team and
his leadership, so yeah, it's good to see him back.
But yeah, Sydney's looking the goods. They did play North
Melbourne over the weekend, we'll say, but yeah, still I
think they needed that. They had a few losses there.
They kind of like need to get back on their horse,
get their momentum going. They're still a fair way clear
of you know, second place or they're up to open.

(31:00):
You know, we're going to fish finish in the top four.
That's pretty easier to say. So I think they're back
on their winning ways, which is good for them.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Scary for the rest of the competition that they can
have so many big inns. Mcinnernie I think came out
for Luke Parker and the third quarter, so hopefully all
well is all's well there. We move into the Bulldogs
game because they had a massive win over Carlton, but
it was it brings up more, you know, selection dilemma

(31:27):
and positional dilemma for the Bulldogs because hugle Hagen went
on to absolutely start again when Norton was out. So
each time Norton seems to be out of the team,
ugle Hagen steps up and has a massive game, and
it just it keeps driving home that is there too
many big players in their forward line, too much tall timber, Like,

(31:53):
what do you think could be the possible reasons why
this is happening? Because Sam Darcy is also up there,
Riley West and Cody Weightman are great foils off the
tall guys. So yeah, I feel like Norton is versatile
enough to be able to go back. Keep saying it.

(32:13):
It seems to be very unlikely to ever happen, but
it only seems to be positive when Hugile Haagen is
the main man up there.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I think he's just got more room to work and
probably you know, it doesn't feel like he's getting into
other people's way.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Sam Darcy, I.

Speaker 1 (32:29):
Think he's going to be one of the best forwards
in the league in the next two to three years.
I can pretty much safely say that. I've talked to
people in the league and they all have the same thing.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
They're like, man, he's.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Just got these jukes and he puts these big, gangly
long arms up and he can take a Clark say,
I think they've got a big upside with their forward line.
They're just trying to go Okay, like, realistically, what does
it look like? Can we play with three tolls? Can
we play with two? And then they moved while back obviously,
so they're definitely shifting magnets magnets around trying to figure
out where their best team is. But it was good

(32:59):
to see Jamar go really well over the weekend. He's
a he's an absolute legend. But on the give them
a little shout out on the podcast, Yeah, yeah, last
year but he was hilarious and yeah, no, it's good
to see him going well. But I think it is
a lot of one. You have to get experienced together
and then if it clicks, then you continue with that.
But if it doesn't, you got to keep kind of
changing to figure out where the best you know, avenue

(33:20):
is for your fore line. And at the moment you
look at it and you go, okay, if we have
not in Jamar, and how many goals are we getting
out of them? Right?

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Like together?

Speaker 1 (33:28):
And then if you go, okay, we just have Jamar in,
Like let's say together they kick six and then individually
Jamar might kick five and it's like, okay, well a
goal difference to have more. You know, they're faster and
quicker players to kind of rush through the contest, like
do we want to risk that or do we want
to have more aerial down line? And it might be,
you know, dependent on the team you play and you
know the style they play at. So I don't know.

(33:50):
I don't think they hundreds that know exactly who their
Ford line is. And it's going to change a little
bit again whenever some players come back. But it is
a shout out to Jamar just you know, keep trogging
along doing the best you can, and he's killing it.

Speaker 2 (34:03):
So happy for him for those of us that think that,
you know, the Fords just run around like endless jokes
inside the Ford fifty. How much cohesion is needed? Is
there a hierarchy? So is it like Checkers is like Mace,
get out of my way. I'm coming through to take
the mark? Is there?

Speaker 1 (34:20):
You know?

Speaker 2 (34:20):
First? Second, third tolls like who has the hierarchy? Who
has the right of way? Do you have to stay
out of each other's way? Do you have to you're
meant to block for me or like vice versa, like
what's the protocol?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
Then yeah, there is for certain circumstances, right Like I'm
like Jamie Elliott's probably not gonna you know, but throughout
the difference between myself or Jamie Elliott blocking for one
another for a lead, probably gonna block for Jamie Elliott,
he's a little bit faster. I am a lot more skillful.
If it's kicked at the top of the square on
everyone's head, yeah, Jamie probably gonna block for me.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
Right.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
So there's like different scenarios in that sense. But I think, yeah,
you play to your strength. So like if you have
a long downline contest, you probably most likely want me there,
and then Check be able to kind of rush off
that because he's got the speed that I don't. So
you play to each person's strengths and then hopefully, you know,
you can be able to have each one impact and
then from one to another to the next be able
to get into the forward line and be able to

(35:12):
kick a goal. So everyone has different things they bring
to the table. And I wouldn't say it's a hierarchy
quote unquote, but I think it's more of a plenty
of strengths and know, you know what people are good
at and allow them to shine.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Yeah, and it also depends if you've got Buddy Franklin there.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Yeah, you just actually don't whatever. You you don't get
past halfway, you just let him have the whole half
of the field. You sort the rest out. Gonna leave
you there on your arm.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Buddy. Imagine if you imagine if you dropped in front
of him and he's like, get out of my way.
Next time, you'd be like, yeah, I'll stand in.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
The car park.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
Just gotta leave. Let's talk about the big losers. We'll
skip through this because we don't like harping on the
on the big losers. But Freo I've I was so
ready for Freer to take this one by the scruff
of the neck, and unfortunately they couldn't get the job
done over Hawthorne. But the consequence of that is not
having second spot on the ladder.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
So that's pretty yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
Could have would have Shulder, but unfortunately didn't. They had
a pretty dominant third quarter and only managed to kick
four six. They did kick more goals, but could have
had a lot more more, could have Shutters Carlton. Massive
loss for them, not just in the scope of being
able to solidify second on the ladder, but it was
Patrick Cripps's two hundredth game, and you always like to

(36:26):
get up for those milestones. They only went down by
a couple of goals and Charlie managed to kick three
to seven. Now it was it's you were you going
those things and you're like shining light. What's the silver
lining of that he's had? He's had, well, he's had
ten shotshots, two starters, he's getting a lot of shots.
Getting the pill. He's getting the pill. Just got to

(36:48):
put it between the big sticks. And I think that
was probably leading into this. Harry was the number one
banana and Charlie had a couple of quiet weeks for
someone that's up the top end of the Coleman so
it's good to see him up and about. It's just
get that accuracy of firing. Unfortunate one for them to drop.
But then I think they got north this weekend so

(37:08):
they course correct. And then this one that I wanted
to pull out, which I don't know how many people
are going to come after me for this one really?
Of course, well by the looks of what I'm about
to read out, not a lot of people are going
to come after me. Because I thought Richmond had one
hundred and twenty thousand members and under twenty thousand people
rocked up to their game at the MCG, lowest in

(37:28):
twenty years, two years. Yeah, and I was flicking through
the calendar looking for what was on over the weekend.
Not a lot, not a lot, pretty rainy weekend. Maybe
maybe the rain kept them away, bit cold, bit nippy.
I don't know, maybe stay hard.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
I will say this. I was on the road right
at the same time the Richmond game was finishing up.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I'm not going to.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Put out exactly what vehicle I saw, but I saw
a very heavy amount of Richmond stickers on the back
of this yell car that happened to be leaving the
MCG before the game had finished. Yellow.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Maybe the yellow cars just a coincidence.

Speaker 1 (38:10):
It had an established whatever your rich for football car
was established on the back. You could say they were
a hardcore fan, but they might be a little bit
of a fair weather fan. Also at the same time, there's.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
A lot of stickers on that like that's what you.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
See out the back of the day and they just
can't be street legal.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Yeah, but I just thought one to bring up because
the Tazzy game drew eleven thousand people, which almost pips
the Richmond game at the G. So maybe Richmond needed
a couple more games over at Marvel, just something that
they might be able to fill up a bit. You
see how they go on that.

Speaker 1 (38:43):
To get murdered by It's like the comments.

Speaker 2 (38:45):
I love it. I can't wait for Maybe maybe I will,
maybe I won't. Maybe they all knocked off for the years.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
You've doubled down?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
What no, triple down again?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Triple down?

Speaker 2 (38:55):
And if we were comment about Richmond, well, if we
whack the AFL, if we trust the AFL's crowd numbers,
it was probably actually about eight thousand, and they've given
him nineteen thousand. Go on for another record this year.
Oh anyway, let's jump in. I'm only venting because speaking
of big losers, we're heading into the Collingwood game now
and we will start positive. Jamie Elliott's return was one

(39:21):
of the one for the Ages, a massive return. Everyone
loves seeing him back out there after his vascular issues
and came on almost kicked an early goal. But then
I was grateful that he missed because what he did
after that was almost better because he hit a smother,
turned the ball over, wheeled around, kicked one on the

(39:42):
run running inside fifty, got the standing O from the crowd.
It was amazing, amazing to see Jamie Elliott back out
there kicking goals on the MCG.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
He's obviously had a fair few weeks on the sideline unfortunately,
but it was great to see him back out there,
see him deep in the square, just be able to
do his thing and be a pressure player, create the contest,
get the goals, and it was a beautiful moment. I
think whenever he did kick that goal, and only did
they go up and cheer whenever he kicked it, went
and celebrated of the team. But then you know, as

(40:11):
he's going back to the goal square to set up
for the center bounce, everyone did a standing o for
him as he went back towards the cheer squad and
you know, gave a little acknowledgment to the crowd. And
I think as a player, you know, very depressing times
and frustrating times. I think whenever you're injured and want
to be out there, and for him to get back
out there and be able to be able to shine

(40:32):
on the biggest stage and get that acknowledgment from your
fans and supporter base, it's it's a good feeling.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
It's a very good feeling.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
I was I was happy that people did it, and
I was happy for Jamie to be able to experience
that and play so well.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
It was pretty he was so clean. A couple of
these pickups, just one touch pickups handble.

Speaker 1 (40:48):
Yeah, he looked a bit dewy, as I say, a
little Stuart you.

Speaker 2 (40:51):
It's pretty wild that he can come out after missing
so much time and be one of the cleanest players
out there. We'll touch on Jeremy Cameron because Jess is back.
He does like to play against Collingwood. Yeah, he kicks
him from out of bounds in the parking lot. But
he had an awesome game on the weekend, and he
did touch on the matchup with Q. Now, I thought

(41:13):
it was an interesting matchup. Obviously know Jeremy Howe. He's
been playing for kind of the whole team out last
week too. Yeah, he was probably the one we probably
stick on him. Yeah, so the whole team's kind of
a bit of a shambles at the moment. But Q
giving up fifteen centimeters on him not the ideal opponent,
or he did pretty well, like in all honesty to

(41:36):
keep him to what he does. Because saying that Jeremy
how does play on him and he still likes to
kick bags of girls.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
Against I mean, he's Jeremy Cameron. If you keep him
to one or two goals, I think it's a successful night. Yeah,
there's not many other people in the league that you
can sit there and say that, right, Like, there's there's
very few. I think about Charlie Cameron, Jesse Cameron, like
these players. You know, if you can keep him to
a goal or two in a game, and that's a
big win for the team.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah, because I think looking at it as well, not
like he took a lot people talking about the height
difference that he gave up. A lot of his were
like pick up ground balls, snapped from like a stoppage
and stuff like that, and it's like, well, like who
could play on him to stop that?

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Anyway, He's a free he's a good player. But yeah,
it was it was interesting, Like it's always frustrating seeing
him go up against us and playworks. It's something I
think you almost look at it and go, Okay, he's
had a bit of a history against us. You know,
hopefully we can shut him down this week. But yeah,
we're sorting stuff out and I think we've had a
few different names go through and some people in and out,
and it's not allowed for as much consistency as usual.

(42:35):
So we're trying to sort through that and try to
figure out kind of what our best twenty two or
twenty three is.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
There was another interesting moment from the game where Schultz
and Stewart seem to clash heads in an aerial contest.
Geelong had already made their sub, so they brought on
Oli Henry. He came on at the time. Schultz came
straight off, realized that he was probably going to have
to go into the proto, which is the ten minutes

(43:01):
or whatever, and you guys have Reef as your sub,
so like, yes, smart at that stage in the game,
just to make the immediate sub. But Stewart came off,
had blood from the eye, obvious head contacts, stayed down
probably longer than Schultz on the field, and was taken
from the field because of that incident. They kind of

(43:24):
just patched him up and sent him back out there,
And I was like, how is there not I understand
that you've used your sub, you may as well patch
him up and just see what the deal is. But
I still thought he would have had to have gone
through the ten minute protocol, but he just got sent
straight back out there. So I still think outside of
that specific incident, we've seen it happen multiple times, and

(43:46):
it happened in another Geelong game for Jeremy Cameron, very
very similar.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
So he actually went into concusion protocol after the game
and he missed two weeks.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Yeah, so very similar when the game's on the line.
I'm not saying anything un toward happened from a Geelong standpoint.
I'm just saying broad spectrum stuff. We've talked about it before.
I feel like there should be a third party AFL
person that sees any head contact like in the NRL
and says, look, stop play. That player needs to come

(44:18):
off the field, because we've seen throughout the course of
this year multiple times where a player will hit their
head like Jeremy Cameron and just send the doctor away.
The doctor can only do so much, so you want
that taken out of the hands. There's the next stoppage.
We all know now that the umpires have in ear pieces,

(44:39):
they should be communicated with stop the game at the
next stoppage. Jeremy Cameron needs to go off. He hit
his head on the ground. He needs to be assessed
and take it out of their hands because I don't
not that I don't trust any doctors or any teams
or anything like that. I just think that the player
is going to want to stay out there, and it's

(45:00):
very hard to put that on a doctor to say, Nah,
why didn't you do more? Why didn't you drag him
from the ground. Why did It's like, well, one Jeremy
Camerons one hundred and ten kilos and he's inner stoppage.
How am I going to drag him from the ground.
Like you're putting too much on doctors that are just
out there trying to do the right thing. I think
take it out of everyone's hands, put it in the
hands of the AFL, and say give it to a

(45:21):
third party and they get to make them didience.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
So like we obviously have reviews for goals and stuff
like that, I feel like there should be a review
system where it goes to a bunker somewhere and then
they can make the decision whether or not they need
to come off the ground. It's done by an independent
review panel. It's not done by people that are employed
by the club. Not to say that that was the case,
that you know it was biased from that standpoint, but
I think for everyone and they're you know, just sense
of mind with this whole kind of thing, like it's

(45:44):
best to have an independent kind of person be able
to make that judgment, and then off teams have to
go through that kind of experience and it's not you know,
targeted or biased towards one or the other. It's as
someone that's totally independent from the actual the teams itself.
So we've said that before. I think that's how it
should be. It probably will be like that in the future.
I think at some point maybe we able to keep

(46:05):
saying this for the AFL to understand. I'm not too sure,
but I think that's the best way to adjudicate this stuff,
which is obviously such a hot topic and so important
right now. And if were we talk about concussions and
everything else, like it's it's just a necessity that's going
to be, you know, put under a microscope week after
week after week, year after year after year. And if
we can find a way to make it not inc incentivised,

(46:29):
but like not biased towards either one, then I think
that's the best outcome.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, And even if that doesn't make sense for whatever reason.
I think from a business standpoint, it is like if
we get twenty years down the line and everyone wants
to sue, who are you suing? Are you seeing the doctor,
you're seeing the club, you're seeing the AFL you like,
From a business standpoint, it makes so much more sense
to put a framework around it, and everyone agrees that

(46:54):
this is the best way forward. And we'll still make
mistakes where we don't see wrangle or we don't see something,
but we all have to work together to make it work. Yeah,
because we don't want to see you know, this continue
on and players get hurt and then we have to
wait to see who gets in trouble for it or like, Yeah,

(47:15):
I think it just makes it way more messy. It's
just a way better system. Moving on into the game,
we have DC another Plumber Massive Game. So he kicked
two goals, one goal, fifty eight hitouts. Yeah. Massive Game
was the only Collingwood player that got in the coaches votes.

(47:37):
Really he got one so he only got one hitouts. Yeah,
so grim times for the coaches.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
I really do hate Rockman don't never get any credit, but.

Speaker 2 (47:47):
It's going to be very interesting. He comes up against me,
so it's Plumber v. Plumber. It's like Mario v. Luigi
this week, so yeah, that's going to be a massive one.
DC been in hot form. He could use a little
help there. So we will get into some of these
returns because we saw Dan McStay return such a good
story kick the first goal in the VFL return, everyone

(48:09):
got around him. Amazing story. Glad to see him back
out there again. We only just spoke about it last week,
so we won't rehash it, but it'd be great to
see him out there in the AFL. Hopefully that happens
sooner rather than later. But Mason Cox, everyone's talking about
Cox on the lips this week, on the tip of
the tongue. Everyone has Cox on the tip of their tongue.

(48:32):
Everyone wants to know when you're going to be back.
Did I say something?

Speaker 1 (48:38):
I want that to because that's going.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
To be the start of the clip. Everyone has Cocks
on the tip of their tongue because they want to
know when the big man is returning from injury and
where you're going to return from injury. So the word
on the grapevine is that you might be good to
play this week and where are you going to play?

Speaker 1 (48:57):
Yeah, so they I guess from the horses, Mat, I
guess you could say rehab's gone really well. I've got
to the point now I'm getting back into regular training
and as long as this week goes well, I'm hoping
and you know, in a good mindset that you know,
I can be up for selection at whatever level next
this weekend. So so I have to get through a

(49:18):
few training sessions and make sure that happens, because I've
not done a full training session yet. But if I
can do that and feel comfortable with it, then yeah,
there's a possibility I can play over the weekend. And
it's where that's always up to the coaches, right, That's
never that is never my decision. There's always up to
the coaches and the high performance staff of kind of
what they want to do if they want to you know,
easy back in or whatever it may be. And you know,

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we saw Dan obviously coming back from an a CL
played a VFL game first before he goes into the IFL,
and yeah, it's gonna be it's gonna be interesting see
kind of how that falls in its place. But I'm
excited from my standpoint to be back into normal training,
back into being able to to do everything with the
team and be able to not have restrictions when it
comes to going out there. So that's a really positive sign.

(50:01):
And yeah, we're pretty happy moving forward.

Speaker 2 (50:03):
I love it. Fly Jam Cocks right back in there. Well,
I reckon, I reckon, you're not getting what did I say?
I don't know what. Anyway, You're not getting any slower,
you're not getting any quicker, So I don't see the
point putting you in the VFL. Big Dan, Big Cocks
straight back in the box. We chuck them in and
we're good to go. And then you know, it's good

(50:25):
to have a couple of players running out of time.
There's not that many games left, so let's get it
going and get the wins on the board. So that'll
be awesome to see. Let's jump straight into the preview
because we're running out of time because we got second.
We'll reiterate this second to thirteenth two games in it.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
This is insane to think. I don't know if this
has ever happened where it's been this close whenever it
comes to the top eight and trying to get into it.
But a two game difference from essentially what's Carlton at
two all the way down to Hawthorn at thirteen. Yeah,
that's insane to think we have what six or seven
games left in the season. Yeah, so really anything is
possible for that top eight spot and that the run

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home for a lot of teams.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
Yeah, every win, every loss makes massive, It has massive
implications on the ladder. I will reiterate that this situation
isn't because any team is doing well outside of Sydney.
It's all teams are sucking just at the right level.
They're falling down when they just need to. Look at Freeo,
you look at Carlton, you look at every team that

(51:28):
just needs to get the obvious win. They haven't been
able to do it pretty much all year. So then
all these teams are even. So we move into another
weekend and we just assume the worst. Because Adelaide and
you would just say Essendon is a higher team on
the ladder, they need to win this game. They should
get it done. But if the ladder has anything to

(51:51):
go by, they will probably get flogged. But I'm tipping
Essenon in this one. Surely they get it done.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
Cg or Marvel the home game for Accident versus Adelaide,
who you know, obviously plays outside of that top thirteen
you know, of being able to try to get to
that race for finals. So you have to go accident
at home front of their home crowd. That's uh, that's
going to be my lock for them. It's not gonna
be my lock, boy, So I was very tempted to
do it, but I'm going to say that's a good

(52:21):
chance for usident.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
That's nice.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
That's also means I'm timming accident into trying to get out.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Yes, yes, yes, Now this one there's never been a
bigger game in the history of the AFL because it
is GWS woo versus Gold Coast Sons booo. Because I don't.

Speaker 1 (52:42):
Really care about this game. All I need to know
where's it being played.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Because it's a GWS home gown Gold Coast away game,
so we can lock that in. I'm putting that my
cock luck huge because I Dimmer said boys, we need
to fucking grow up or whatever he said, and they
just scraped across the line at home against Port. So
the GWS have come good. They're good again. So GWS,
that's my cock cloff for the week. They're gonna get

(53:07):
it done. Do you reckon? In all honesty, you give
them any chance to win an away game this year.

Speaker 1 (53:17):
Plet the fifth that works in Australia. I played the
fifth brother.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
It's no great. They've already lost the North, so they're
already screwed Saint Kilda versus West Coast, so fucking anyway.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
So we got a whole four versus going to this
one sant kill the West Coast ross line hopefully doesn't
break another phone this week. Let's get him a head sight.
That's what we should be doing.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Why do we what's the predicted scoreline? Are we're going
to see a thirty to twelve or are we gonna.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
This is the thing we talked about. It's like North
West Coast Tigers. I think I won't say West Coast
has twelve points together on eight. So then if they don't,
if they do drop every single game, they're still not
getting the number one draft pick if everyone else loses.
So it's kind of this whole think of like, okay,
do we just kind of you know, push for wins
here and just try to be Saint Kilda.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
Well West Coast. Their forward line is so good with
watermen and Oscar Allen. They they can't help but kick goals.
Those two so it's like it's so hard to get
them to stop. That's going to be a problem if
Saint Kilda plays one of their stinky games. So let's
Saints get to winn Saints to win nas stuff.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
I'm going West Coast.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
It doesn't fiss me off because I have zero faith
in Saint Kilda. We'll skip past Hawthorne Collin. When we
talked about that last Geelong versus Western Bulldogs, boy, that's
a cracker. That's a cracker. Who you've got that one?

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I've got. I'm going to go Western Bulldogs on this one.
I like to being a plumber on the day. Okay, Yeah,
although Stanley did play in the VFL last week, so
I don't know. I might a little call up, you
never know, after DC had such a big game. But
I've got Western Bulldogs. I know Geelong home games, it's
going to be very hard over there, but i've got

(54:54):
the Western Bulldogs just coming through.

Speaker 2 (54:56):
Yeah. Well, it's interesting because Geelong had the hot start
then fell off a cliff. Now it looks like they're back,
and because every team around them has performed so poorly,
they could slot into the top four like nothing happened.
In the mid season. Let's just forget the middle of
the season ever existed. Well, Western Bulldogs can pretty much
do the same thing. They can jump straight back up

(55:16):
in there, because every team in the middle of the
ladder has a chance to finish in the top four,
which is crazy. Port versus Richmond Port all day this one.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
Yeah, okay for you looked like, wait, hold on, he's
surely not putting us as the cock park. Now you
got Port por to how Richmond Like, sorry, guys, rough Dross.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Starts to get to this point in the season where
Richmond's got to be looking for the end like you would.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Yeah, I've already booked their off season plans. Say, oh,
I don't think it's possible for them.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
No. No, Brisbane versus Sydney, this is a great game
Brisbane at the Gabba. We like to see it. I
Brisbane are going into this one favorite and I think
that's well warranted. Given Sydney had their little stumbles. Brisbane
have come good. It looks like they're going to be
missing Charlie Cameron. We record this before the tribunal, assuming

(56:08):
that he takes it to the tribune.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
He's going to get out of four games three gamers three. Yeah,
so I can't imagine be playing this weekend.

Speaker 2 (56:15):
So yeah, it'll be interesting from that side of things.
But I don't known. I feel like Brisbane at home
they're very dangerous prospect and they should get the job done.
Lucky Neil is on fire. He got thirty two goals
every week. I watched some vision over the weekend where

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they're like they literally hold him the whole way through
a stop it and he still gets thirty six touches.
So yeah, he's one of those blokes that can break
a tag, knows how to kick a goal. As a midfielder.
He'll get the job done against Sydney's unbelievable midfield. But
that'll be a great game to watch. Free Oh Melbourne,
hold on, let me just throw this out though.

Speaker 1 (56:57):
Oh I've got a little bit of a statement about this,
Brisbane said game. I'm gonna put it as my cock
clock of the week. Really, Brisbane at home. Harrow would
be very happy with this. The man behind the scenes
would be very happy. I know Sidney's going well. Sydney
though North Melbourne last week two weeks before two losses.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
Yeah, there's a chance.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
I do love Sydney. I love Brodie Grunde, I love
the Sydney Swans, but I think Brisbane at home. I've
got them winning this game.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
See, I look at it from a negative slant. If
I was like working in the newspaper, I'm just saying,
Mason Cox declare Sydney cooked the lost to in a row.
They got the win against North Mate calm down, game
over free oh versus Melbourne. Freo gets this one done.
Freo are a good team. Had a little like Stumble

(57:45):
last week, but that wasn't like that wasn't choking field.
That wasn't choking because Hawthorne played very good footy of Tazzy.
So I give them this game. Melbourne have turned things
around form wise though, Yes, maybe just not the win.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
We thought they'd struggle without Max Conan then went over
the weekend.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Yeah, pretty wild. Interesting, Maybe we don't need rucks. I
would keep that on the down loan. You're the one
promoting and keep it on the down load because if
Max Gorne can be kicked out of the team and
they get the dubing, oh.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
No, I've got to go for on this one. I
think Freemantle. Yeah, they're too good of a team to
be losing at home Melbourne, very tough for them. They're
going to be in that group that's going to be
really on the edge of the eight trying to get
in and we'll see kind of how the rest of
your hands out.

Speaker 2 (58:34):
And then Carlton, well, they're going to massacre North Melbourne.
They just got to get the win back that they
stuffed up on the last weekend. You know, when you
you barrack for a team the week before, you want,
you know, the team that diversing to be lulled into
it like a false sense of security like you want
like but no, like Carlton's coming off like a loss.

(58:56):
Patrick Cripps is two hundred, Charlie had three seven. They
would be so fired up to absolutely dominate this weekend. Okay,
if you think they're going to win by how much
like I'd like to think. North aren't the team that
still gets beaten by seventy points.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
Yeah, so I'll say sixty, you'll say sixty, yeah stuff,
I'll go seventy.

Speaker 2 (59:20):
Anyway, Good luck North, But that's one more game for
the round. Almost skipped over the Hawthorne Collingwood game. I
feel like Hawthorne are the little Bogie team. They like
coming up against you guys. They got the attitude. They
like to take it up to Nick Dekos, they like
to tag him. They got guinea running around out.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
We played on the gather round. Obviously it is a
very tight game and we're fortunate enough to get over
the line on that one. But it was very very
close and last second type staff. But yeah, we talked
about this. You know, Hawthorns one of those teams I
think people probably look past over the last two or
three years, but now they're they're right in that mix,
like they're you know, the same points as us on
the ladder. There's just a bit of a score differ, sure,
is the only thing that really separates us. So it's

(01:00:02):
going to be a very good game, I think over
there over there at the MCG you know from we
see the big, big away game. No, it's going to
be a great game. I think it's a credit to
what they've been able to do over at Hawthorne and
their coach has you know, really been able to turn
that program around where there's a lot of question marks
I think whenever he first took over, and they've got
this this you know confidence about them at the moment

(01:00:24):
going about it, and it looks like they're really enjoying
their football. So it's a it's a crowd to him
when he's been able to create over there.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
I enjoy watching them play when I have a spare
four forty on a Sunday free mate.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
It's a Saturday afternoon and where we play calm down.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
I just enjoy watching the Hawthorne team go about it. Obviously,
I'm very off them this weekend as Collingwood will get
the W in this game. But it'll be great to
see because yeah, like you said, it's only a percentage
that separates these two teams and they've come good. They've
come a long way since gather around. So we'll see
how this one pans out and all the best and

(01:01:01):
hopefully you're running around out there. We'll wait and see.
Oh we'll keep an eye on cocks this weekend. Got
a lot of sexual windows. That's not I've got the
one that's spelt like the penises do have the tough
fallus last name. I have the good one. Mine's the
good one, Yours is the bad one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
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obviously everything that happened last last week with the review.
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Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Cheez