October 2, 2025 • 64 mins
Christine and Sarah welcome listeners to 'The Mental Funny Bone,' diving into their usual blend of comedy and mental health insights. The episode is packed with personal updates including Sarah's excitement over a 'game-changing' meditation pillow, Christine's ADHD struggles and coping mechanisms, and the hilarious 'Gaster Story' of Christine’s childhood obsession with studio wrestling. They also share heartfelt moments about parenting challenges and lessons learned from high school and college soccer experiences. Between laughs and serious discussions, they explore themes of resilience, the need for better ADHD management, and the intricacies of starting a mindset coaching business. A whirlwind episode filled with humor, nostalgia, and honest reflections.
How to find mental health help when you're struggling. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists
https://washingtoncountyhumanservices.com/agencies/behavioral-health-developmental-services
https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Services/Human-Services-DHS/Publications/Resource-Guides
Apps - Just search mental health where you get your apps.
EAP programs are a great place to look for help!!
Additional Resources (Sports Related):
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Chris (00:03):
Hello.
Welcome to the Mental FunnyBone, a comedy mental health
podcast where we touch onvarious topics related to mental
health and we try to make youlaugh, uh, despite the tears.
Sarah (00:16):
I'm Christine, I'm Sarah.
And sometimes we don't talkabout anything, but just the two
of us, right?
Um, and a lot of the time thatlands in the mental health realm
of things.
Chris (00:33):
Right.
Um, it frequently does.
Uh, it will today for sure.
Um, so here's, here's ourlineup.
Uh, we will tell the people whatit is too.
Uh, first we're gonna do alittle catch up corner.
Okay.
Because, uh, you and I haven'ttalked in over 24 hours, so
there's stuff for us to catch upon.
Yeah.
Um, we're gonna talk a littlebit about growing up Gaster and
(00:54):
what it was like to have anolder sister, uh, who was really
into studio wrestling.
So that's gonna be our gasterstory of the week.
Yes.
Uh, and then we're gonna, I like
Sarah (01:05):
this.
I like this.
Chris (01:06):
We're gonna invite you guys to join us on some of our
adventures this fall.
So we're gonna talk about the,uh, out of darkness walk.
Um, and I think that might bethe only thing we're doing this
fall,'cause we're both prettybusy.
Um, oh, we're going on ameditation retreat, which I
can't stop talking about.
Sarah (01:26):
Um, and then, yeah, and I got a new pillow for my ass, so
I'm super excited to talk aboutthe Ass pillow
Chris (01:32):
Game changer is what I'm hearing about the meditation
pillow.
Um, and then we're gonna getinto some mental health stuff,
because we're gonna talk about ADHD and how it's fucking with me
these days.
What?
Yeah.
I can't, I can't stop.
Won't stop.
I'm
Sarah (01:48):
not sure why you thought, I'm not sure why you thought
that was like a needed tomention in the lineup for
things.
I feel like that's just what itrevolves around.
Chris (01:59):
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I did some research this weekand, uh, uh, we're gonna mention
my good friend.
Oh, good.
Mel Robbins, if you rememberour, our friend Mel.
We're gonna let them Good, good.
Punish it.
Um, we're gonna talk about somecoping mechanisms that I've
developed over the past eightweeks and, uh, we're gonna talk
about how I continue to beunmedicated, mostly because I
(02:21):
have a DHD.
It's very unfair.
Um, and then we're gonna, we'regonna, I like these
Sarah (02:27):
cause these are all things I'm gonna argue with you
about.
Chris (02:30):
I can't, I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Um, I, I did also put this inhere so that not only you but
our listeners would kind of holdme accountable too.
Um, we're gonna talk about therole of adrenaline in A DHD and
how I've gotten more tattoos inthe past eight weeks than, than
(02:50):
I have in the, the previous fouryears.
Um, and then we're gonna telleach other goodbye, uh, at the
end.
And we're gonna say, I love youand hang up.
That is, uh, that's what we'regoing to do today.
So there we go.
Might I add any, anything?
Well, yeah, I suppose so.
(03:11):
It's, it's half your podcast.
Oh, oh.
First off, before we go anyfurther, it's just
Sarah (03:18):
a therapy session.
Really,
Chris (03:21):
honestly.
Honestly, why, why pay?
Why pay when I can just do this?
Mm-hmm.
Sarah (03:27):
Um,
Chris (03:28):
we also have to mention, uh, Becca, the intern who is,
uh, who's taken a little timeoff, uh, and she's in Nashville,
so when she comes back, I want afull report because Nashville is
the best place on the planet, inmy opinion.
Sometimes I, not on a Saturday,kind of like Aruba,
Sarah (03:48):
but Nashville's like kind of cool during the day.
Nashville's really cool day isthe way to go.
I feel like there's, like, forNashville, there's like age
planning, like right, dependingon how old you are, that
determines when your prime timeis in Nashville and in our age
range, it's from noon.
(04:11):
To five to two Sunday afternoon.
No, actually 9:00 AM Right?
9:00 AM because you gotta go getsome breakfast, then you drink
all day and go to various barsthat are playing wonderful
music, right?
And then you get dinner and goto bed at six.
Chris (04:31):
I, I think it's a perfect plan and you're less likely to
run into a bachelorette partyduring this time.
And you can line dance poorly.
And no one really judges thatbecause poor line dancing is the
only line dancing.
But I am interested to hearwhat, uh, the younger generation
does in Nashville, because I'msure Becca is gonna come back
(04:53):
with, you know, a differentreport, which will be nice to
hear.
Sarah (04:57):
They do, uh, they wake up at, at three o'clock, we're
winding down our day.
Thank, and they're getting upand going to breakfast.
It all works.
It really all works.
It's like, um, you know, themention of wrestling, it's like
tag team wrestling.
Like, hey, kids, old folkstagging out, have fun.
(05:18):
Get on that, get on that guys.
That's, that's what it's, yeah.
Like,
Chris (05:21):
Hey, we gotta
Sarah (05:22):
reach.
I feel rock far, probably.
There's lots more shots.
Chris (05:25):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That doesn't,
Sarah (05:28):
there's more shots.
There's more.
Um, well, the length, the lengthof.
Of time, like a shift.
Like we are, we are, we're outlonger.
Our shift is longer because weare not, well, I know it depends
on who you're with.
Chris (05:45):
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's, it's also if I'm doing
Sarah (05:47):
shots, I'm going to sleep, but I'm not doing shots.
So our, our length of time is alittle more sustainable.
A little longer while they'reheading out and doing shots at
5:00 PM Why?
No, thank you.
I dunno.
Yeah.
And they're probably throwing upon themselves by like eight, and
(06:08):
then the third shift comes in ateight.
And those, we, that's a wholedifferent, that's a, that's been
a, a part of the world.
I'm not sure I've ever beeninvolved in.
Chris (06:20):
I don't, I
Sarah (06:20):
don't, I definitely have been.
Chris (06:21):
No, I haven't, I haven't.
Like the, there, the, the kidsthat come out at like 3:00 AM
they've been pre-gaming sincelike 1130.
But different places like
Sarah (06:31):
you do remember when we went to San Diego?
Nope, that didn't happen.
Okay.
Yeah, that didn't happen.
I bought a lot of, I bought alot of pucker after that.
Chris (06:45):
I still have it a hundred percent lot.
There's 30-year-old.
Yeah.
You can make all sorts ofdifferent martinis.
Sarah (06:57):
Yeah.
There's all sorts of differentflavored pucker that you can
make martinis out of, butthey're not real martinis.
No.
Like I, if I'm drinking martinithese days, I'm drinking the
older folk martini, which wouldbe the dirty martini.
Chris (07:12):
Right.
There's a lot of olive juice andvery little vermouth.
Mm-hmm.
Like I don't even think vermouthwas an ingredient in these
martinis.
We were drinking at the martinibranch, like it was just pucker
and vodka.
We're just mixing that shittogether.
Yeah.
I remember going to the earlyinternet and looking up the
rules for shipping alcoholbecause I was gonna send you
(07:34):
martini ingredient unquotemartini ingredients to your home
Sarah (07:42):
with
Chris (07:43):
shake
Sarah (07:43):
shaker.
And the, the early, uh, internetwas like, uh, that's not a
martini.
Chris (07:53):
The early internet said, what do I look like?
The post office ship?
What you want?
It's gonna be heavy, right?
Like your barrier is that it'sheavy and expensive.
Not that the US Post Officewon't take it.
Oh my God.
There are tears in my eyes, um,cry crying about the, the fruit
(08:13):
martini.
Um, and I think that was a waythat we incorporated fruit into
our diet.
Like it wasn't just, it wasn'tjust a drink, it was a, it was a
food group.
I'm like, Aw, well no, we'regood.
We had great martinis.
We're fine.
We can And milk, apparently.
Yeah.
'cause we were into the whiteRussians.
That's when you follow a fiveminute,
Sarah (08:35):
you follow a night of drinking vodka and pucker with a
loaded white Russian.
Oh.
So that's milk and vodka.
And I, I'm pretty sure I'mlactose intolerant.
Chris (08:52):
How, how did, I don't even know how.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is a, that is a level.
That's third shift.
That's third shift.
That's definitely not usanymore.
We're, we're leading the pack.
We're open in the bar.
I'm like, Hey, it smells nicelike bleach in here.
Like, is that Fabuloso?
It smells delicious.
So clean.
I appreciate it much.
Fabulous.
Sarah (09:16):
Alright.
Uh, this is making my stomachturn,
Chris (09:20):
honestly, like just thinking about it.
Um, I will say that the lasttime I was in Nashville, I ended
up the night at like 10 30,which is crazy on whatever the
street is Broadway.
And I was eating a vendor hotdogat 11 o'clock and I thought it
was so cool.
That also is making my stomachhurt right now.
Sarah (09:42):
Yeah.
We ended the night with dry.
Our late night I think was like10, 10 30, um, right.
And it ended with gyros, right?
Like sometimes it ended withgyros and a vendor T-shirt that
said drunk cigs don't count.
Perfect.
Chris (09:58):
Per so appropriate the vendor T-shirts.
Mm-hmm.
Priceless.
Priceless.
Alright.
Um, or
Sarah (10:07):
street vendor, whatever the fuck.
Chris (10:09):
Whatever.
I, all of it.
All of it.
I'm here for it.
Um, so, um, Travis Kelsey gotengaged.
I don't know if you
Sarah (10:17):
know Yeah.
I love that.
I love that.
I think I heard something aboutit.
Um, yeah, that's what I'm a big,I'm a big fan of the couple.
Chris (10:30):
Yeah.
Like news this week is gonna be,I dig it completely.
Uh, Swifty focused for me.
Nothing else happens.
Yeah.
This week.
Besides those two gettingengaged, these two crazy kids.
Sarah (10:44):
And
Chris (10:44):
the fact, I feel like
Sarah (10:45):
this is the plan, just focusing on the good stuff.
Chris (10:48):
Right?
Right.
Yep.
Um, that your gym teacher andyour English teacher got married
and I'm not sure which is, whichis Taylor Swift, the gym
teacher.
Like that was the caption.
Think your No, it's not Taylor'sthe English teacher.
Okay.
Got it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That makes more sense.
Makes more sense.
It makes more sense.
Yeah.
'cause he's an athlete andshe's, she's a singer that
(11:11):
dances a lot.
Um, also the funniest and writesmusic, the funniest memes where
just the Olivia's College had ameme where they put the two of
them getting engaged in front oftheir little old main.
And I was delighted by that one.
I'm like, oh, that's sowholesome.
And then I love that.
(11:31):
And then it got, and then it gotmean, like it got mean, and it
got dark real quick.
Like the one lady who said, uh,Travis Kelsey's about to read a
prenup that's longer than anybook he's ever read.
And I was like.
Sarah (11:47):
It's
Chris (11:47):
funny.
Sarah (11:48):
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think that'smean.
I think that's valid.
And I'm not sure if it's like,if you could look at it a couple
ways, like, I mean, it could bea two page prenup and it's just
talking shit on how much TravisKelsey reads.
Chris (12:04):
I was like, that's, or you could look at it
Sarah (12:06):
as Taylor Swift is ridiculous in the best way
possible and needs to have herfuture husband signed a sign, a
prenup that says, yeah,motherfucker, what's mine is
mine, which, and what?
Yours is mine you, you get tokeep, and that's all
Chris (12:23):
the, you get to keep all the rubber balls and I get to
keep all the books in mylibrary.
Sarah (12:29):
Yeah, I mean, I, I think they're gonna be all right.
I think it'll be all right.
Chris (12:33):
Those, it'll be alright.
I, I hope it works out for thosetwo crazy kids.
Super excited about that though.
Sarah (12:38):
Um, yeah, so I am, I'm, it makes me thankful like that
and other bad shit that went onthis week.
It makes me very thankful that Iam, uh, essentially off the
socials again.
Chris (12:49):
No, I think it's, I think it's the right move.
The, my socials are just for,uh, videos of otters, uh, French
rugby players.
Uh, and also for some reasonthey're throwing like a American
lady rugby players in there too.
And I'm not mad at it.
I'm not like French boy rugrugby players, American girl
rugby players.
I'm it, I love it.
(13:11):
I'm all for it.
Um, like the American
Sarah (13:13):
Girl Dolls playing rugby?
Chris (13:15):
No, no, no.
Like the, uh, like the girl whowas on Dancing With the Stars,
I, I, Iona, Iona, whoever,whoever that lady is, I like
her.
She is.
Wears killer lipstick.
I'm, I'm here for it.
Yeah.
Sarah (13:30):
Yeah.
I, um, so the reason I'm off thesocials is actually part of my
Sarah needs to focus more.
Oh.
Oh, this is so good.
Stab at life.
I love it.
Uh, because I am easilysidetracked by, uh, videos of
cats and shit.
(13:51):
So that's really what startedthe, I have to delete these
socials from my phone.
Yeah.
And if I want to do anything, Ihave to go onto the socials on
my computer, which we all knowis a pain in the ass.
So I go onto socials to checkmessages and, uh, schedule some,
some posts for my business.
(14:11):
And that's it.
Chris (14:13):
Love it.
Um, it, I, I'm having troublegiving up the Otter videos.
If I'm honest, like the oneswhere like they're, they're
complete, uh, fabrications, butwhere like a couple dos, an
otter.
These are coming up a lot.
They're AI generated and I don'tcare.
Yeah.
Like Chad is doing a great jobgenerating Otter content for me.
(14:34):
Yeah.
But, but I think I willeventually have to call a, call
a halt, uh, to that.
Yeah.
Alright, so here's, here's thebig thing that's happening, um,
in my world today, I, I don'trealize how close together
events happen because they're ondifferent months in my calendar.
So I didn't realize that at theend of this weekend, it's
(14:57):
September and like the firstweek of September, I have to
give a big, uh, presentation ata conference.
And I am subbing in for somebodythat, that, that should be doing
the presentation but can't rightnow.
So.
Um, everyone is comparing mewith that person and that person
always kills these things.
(15:17):
And there's a lot of, there's alot of things happening in my
brain that are less thandesirable at the moment, like,
figuring out that that was nextweek, yesterday was challenging.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm notready.
I can't do it.
I, I have to, hopefully I breakmy leg this weekend so I don't
have to go.
(15:38):
And then I'm like, will you stopthat?
You are perfectly capable ofbeing up on stage.
You've done it four or fivetimes in bigger settings with
bigger groups of people.
You are actually, uh, good atit.
Shut up brain and prepare likeyou should and then get there
and do it.
(15:58):
So shut up brain.
Yeah.
Is, is a lot of what's goingthrough my head today.
So that's, that's my catch upfor, for this week is that I
have to do this bigpresentation.
I'm half excited and halfterrified.
Um, the terrified part is, isactually a positive because I
will over prepare for it now,and that'll, that'll be good
(16:20):
when I get there.
Um, so that's what, that's whatI have going on.
That's my catch up corner.
Sarah (16:27):
Excellent.
Yeah.
Am I supposed to do a catch upcorner now?
Chris (16:32):
Yeah, it's your turn.
It's a, what happens when Idon't talk is that you talk,
that's how this podcasting thingworks.
Sarah (16:39):
Um.
My, um, my ketchup cornerinvolves, uh, not realizing, not
remembering like how much goesinto soccer high school soccer
season and being like surprisedby it.
Um, so that and business shit.
Um, so soccer high school,soccer's in full swing.
(17:04):
Um, I'm having some rough maparenting moments at, at the
moment.
Um, I had to call your mom anddad on the way home from the
game last night and I had a tearin my eye.
And, um, luckily your father andyour mom are amazing and they
made me laugh and the tear in myeye didn't actually drop, so
that's cool.
(17:25):
Oh, love.
Um, and I pulled out somestellar mom moves after I picked
up my kid who was not superhappy and understandably so.
Um.
Quick update on that.
He, he made the varsity team,just the varsity team.
So he is not dual rostered, heis just on the varsity team,
which was a huge win for him.
(17:45):
He was really excited about it.
'cause he is one of three thatisn't a senior, that's four
rostered on the varsity team.
Um, so that's really cool.
And his first game, he playedreally well.
We got a lot, lot of greatfeedback from parents and yada
yada, yada.
And I'm probably the mostcritical of my kid.
Like, I'm the first to be like,yeah buddy, you just, you know,
(18:07):
you don't have it.
But he did.
Like, I feel like he's finallyat a place where he's doing what
he needs to be doing and, uh,he's doing a great job.
And, um, since then, uh, yeah,to make the story quicker, um,
he played a minute and a half inthe game last night.
(18:29):
And, which is fine.
Um, regardless of what I think,um, you know, I'm not the coach
and the coach makes decisionsand that's fine.
And the, the kids that areplaying his position are good.
So I get, you know, I'm notarguing like, it's fine if, if
he's not earning a spot on thefield.
Okay.
But, um, at least do a rosterhim and, and let him get touches
(18:52):
on the ball in, in jv.
Like, I don't, like that's Yeah.
Kind of the thing that's, andthere's other, there's, there's
more stuff to it that I'm,
Chris (19:02):
yeah, yeah.
You gotta, you gotta edit alittle bit.
You gotta edit a little bit.
Yeah.
Um, so
Sarah (19:09):
I don't, I don't think Tracy's end, so he's not super
happy.
Chris (19:13):
Like, Olivia and I are still talking about, no, his
high school soccer.
I mean, but the, the, the mommoments that come out of that
like.
It's Liv and I spend a prettysignificant amount of time this
week talking about soccer, andshe's playing college soccer, so
I'm even more like hands off,right?
Like I'm, I'm a spectator allthe time, but she's still, she's
(19:37):
still, you know, she's gotthings going on.
She's, she's complaining.
Like same, same stuff, right?
But what, and what I, what Ireally tried to convey to her
this week, I, is that you're,you're not gonna be a
professional.
Like you're, you have two moreyears of this, two more years.
(19:59):
And when you're done the thingthat you're going to take away
from it, regardless of whetheryou start, whether you don't
start, whether you play twominutes, whether you really
enjoy everyone on the team and,and you're all kumbaya or, or
you're not, you're going to takeaway the lessons that others
don't get to learn.
Like, you get to take awaylessons that people learn when
(20:21):
they start working in jobs.
Like you have to get along, youhave to do what's right for the
bigger group.
You have to make decisions thatare like, you have to learn
these lessons.
You have the opportunity tolearn these lessons now and get
a jumpstart on, on these thingscompared to the other kids
around you.
Um, so, you know, just so youknow, it doesn't end right ever,
(20:44):
but I'm, yeah, I'm just alwaysso thankful that they have
sports to learn the lessons,right?
Like, imagine, like, this isalways what I go back to, that I
learned so much by playingsoccer and not because I was,
you know, not because I was afantastic athlete.
I just learned how to get alongwith a group of people that
(21:06):
didn't necessarily think of meas the, uh, as the center of
their universe.
So, I don't know.
I am, I'm trying to beencouraging and, and just
turning it into a story aboutmyself.
But
Sarah (21:23):
no, I, that's essentially, I mean, he got in
the car, I let him lose hisshit, right?
And told him rightfully so.
And I agree with everything thatyou're saying, but the thing is,
uh, you can't really control itall.
So we need to focus on what youcan control.
Are you gonna let it bring youdown?
Are you gonna let it take theprogress that you made and turn
it into shit?
Or are you gonna let it driveyou and make you better?
(21:46):
And that's your choice.
So I suggest you go with aladder, but it's not always that
easy.
It's hard to do, but you'reallowed to be mad for a little
bit.
And then we did, and then I wentinto coach mom, we got into the
garage and I said, okay, we'regonna take three deep breaths
and we're gonna leave it.
(22:07):
We're gonna let it go, and we'regonna focus on what you can do
going forward.
What I can do is your mom goingforward.
So this is where we are.
I love it.
He rolled his eyes.
I think he just watched me takethree breaths and um, and then
we got outta the car and he waslike, you know what else?
I don't fucking understand.
(22:28):
And I was like, okay.
So we didn't leave it.
Okay.
Well, fair enough.
We tried, we tried.
I mean, he doesn't have a, he'smissing this.
It's right.
He doesn't have a fully front
Chris (22:40):
developed frontal cortex yet.
You'll get there.
I get it.
Get I get it.
Sarah (22:44):
I get it.
Yeah.
Oh.
So, uh, anyway, yeah.
Um, and real, real quick, I justwanna talk about my business and
then Yes, please.
I think that's really all I'vegot to talk about.
Um, so I'm pivoting, I ampivoting in the business.
Um, yes, I launched my businessfairly quickly, which was on
purpose, uh, because I have atendency to, um, delay things
(23:08):
for perfection, and that'sreally just a procrastination
tactic.
So, um, based on all of the,the, the information I was
getting and research I wasdoing, you just need to go.
So I did it.
I launched, I launched wantingto focus on young adults because
I also got feedback on that,that that's a great idea and
(23:28):
that it's needed and blah, blah,blah.
Um, after doing a little bit ofmarketing and, and a little bit
of, um, analysis on what I'vebeen doing, um, turns out the
people who believe that theyoung adults need the coaching
and want the young adults to getthe coaching are the parents of
the young adults, not so muchthe young adults, which in
(23:49):
hindsight makes perfect sense.
Perfect.
'cause again, yeah.
They're just, they're just notaware of it yet.
And, um, so while I would still,while I still think that they
need the help, um, that's notreally a great, uh, business
model tactic to go for.
(24:10):
Um, anyway, so I am also notliking the socials these days.
Uh, so I enrolled in somemarketing training that does not
involve just, uh, your socialmedia platforms such as Facebook
and Instagram.
Um, so I'm going through thatand that's what I'm focusing on.
(24:31):
I'm writing a little blog on mypage now, weekly.
I also started publishing a, aweekly newsletter, uh, called
The Mindset Drop, which is, um,super quick, easy read and that
gives you three different toolseach week, um, or a little
mindset, re reset advice, uh, alittle tool you can use.
(24:56):
Um, and like I said, it's supereasy.
Read, get through it in probablytwo minutes, and it just gives
you some things to focus onthrough the week.
So, um, I'm focusing on theblog, the newsletter, and
finishing up this marketing, uh,training and figuring out where
I'm gonna go next.
I'm also learning that maybe I'malso learning that in the world
(25:19):
of, uh, life coaching, uh, whichI'm gonna be focusing on mindset
coaching mostly, um, in thisrealm of things, uh, the
business of coaching, there areactually a shit ton, maybe not a
shit ton, but a lot morecoaching mo models than, or, uh,
business models that I was awareof.
(25:40):
So, one on, no, I love it.
Coaching is not my only option,and it might, and it might not
be the, uh, the strongest forme.
So I'm evaluating how I want torun everything too.
So more, more information tocome, but it's all evolving, uh,
and I will be transparent.
(26:00):
I'm yet to make a dime.
Chris (26:04):
It's cool.
I'll get there.
I'll figure it out.
I gotta figure out where it'smean.
It's a journey.
It's a journey.
It's
Sarah (26:10):
right.
And one of the things, one ofthe lessons I listened to, I
really liked,'cause I alwaysfeel bad.
Like they're like, you know,what are you trying to get out
of this?
And I mean, I'll be honest, thefirst thing I'm gonna say is I,
I would like to make a dime.
Like I, I need to make a dime.
'cause that's, it's kind of adriver around things.
And just one dime.
(26:32):
The one lady I was listening,the one lady I was listening to
was like, let's, let's be realabout it.
We're in business.
Yes, we want to help people andthat's our purpose.
And you know, we, we do all thisvalues based digging into things
and that's great and that's whatdrives us.
But ultimately we start thesethings'cause we need to make
money.
(26:53):
And there's nothing wrong withsaying that out loud and making
the money makes it a lot easierto be able to fulfill your
purpose in the end.
And I was like, oh, oh yeah,that makes me feel less of a
dick.
So, okay.
Alright.
That, that was a very, that'sthat
Chris (27:12):
mind thing.
That's kind of the interestingpiece is that like, for, for a
hot minute you were like, Ishould just be altruistic.
And, and when get into this justfor the, the common good and
really, um, an important pieceof like having your mind lined
up is, is being able to say,nah, you know what, I, I wanna
(27:33):
do that.
That's an important driverbehind it.
But, you know, really I'd liketo, I'd like to make the money,
like to be able to, to supportmyself Yeah.
Doing this thing that I, that Ireally enjoy.
And that's why, that's why weget into business.
And I wonder Yeah.
Like, I always wonder like how,how hard that is for, uh, you
(27:54):
know, girls to admit women.
Like, I don't, I don't, yeah.
And that's funny
Sarah (28:01):
it, the training that I'm doing is women based, is women
in business based.
Um, and it's kind of the, uh,what I really like about, well,
there's a lot of values involvedin it that are aligned with my
beliefs and my systems and whatI feel.
Um, so that always helps.
(28:22):
Um, but what I like about it,like the one girl's like, yeah,
boss girl, boss babe.
I mean, I'm just running mylife.
Like I, I don't know.
I'm in business.
I'm in business.
Just like some bro would be abusiness like.
Chris (28:43):
Bo bro doesn't need to
Sarah (28:43):
be defined by, I'm a, I'm a
Chris (28:44):
boss bro.
Yeah, I'm a badass bras bro.
I've just doing bad ass bra.
Just doing, I wish I had abadass bra.
I just have the regular bras.
Um, sorry.
No, I, I mean I think that suchan interesting like that, that
that was the mindset shift, uh,like choosing, I, I, I choose,
(29:10):
uh, because it lines up with myvalues to, to say that in
reality what happens is I reallywanna make money in, in, in this
business because that's why Istarted a business.
And that's why like, right,there's, there's part of it
that, that makes me crazy.
That makes me crazy.
That, that would be, that, thatwould be a mind shift.
(29:31):
Um, anyway, sorry.
Like, like.
Sarah (29:35):
No, but it's true because you don't like, and you feel
that, like you feel bad sayingthat.
Like at least I do.
Like, I feel like why do, whatis your why?
Why do you wanna do this?
Well, I wanna make, I wanna, Iwanna make everybody's lives
better.
And truly, that's what I wannado.
I wanna impact lives.
I want people to have theexperiences that I've had that
(29:57):
have made my life better.
But I literally cannot do thatin the best manner possible
without making any money.
Chris (30:07):
Right.
And if you were starting alandscaping business, no one
would be like, Hey, what's yourwhy?
Oh, because I want people tohave, do you want green or grass
manicured lawns?
Yeah.
It just, yeah.
And there's, there's so much ofI don't deserve, or I'm not good
enough, or I'm not worthy of it.
I think you and I were talkingabout it a couple weeks ago
(30:30):
where, um, I was like, what, youknow what?
I could really use a mentor.
Like, the thing that would stopme from getting a mentor before
was that, oh, we'll get mentorsare for people who are gonna be
successful and you're just,you're just a mom who's trying
to like feed her, uh, children.
Like you're just a mom who'strying to contribute a little
bit to the household.
(30:50):
Like, no, like I am a fully, uh,uh, complete person who's
working in a career and if amentor would be helpful, why
wouldn't I deserve that?
Like, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Anyway, here's to, here's to allof us changing our, changing our
mindsets, but I do love thatyou're, that you are like, not
(31:15):
forcing something that doesn'tfeel right for your business
anymore.
Like that's also an importantthing to be like, yeah, I don't
need to do that.
Yeah.
I feel
Sarah (31:23):
like that's kind of where I was.
I think that's exactly, I thinkthat's spot on.
That terminology, just forcingsomething to make it happen.
Um, there's so much more to itand.
You know, I, I didn't go into itthinking it was all gonna happen
immediately.
Like, am I a bit disappointedthat I haven't made any money?
Sure.
Uh, but part of the process islearning where I fit and what's
(31:46):
gonna work well for me and whatI want to do.
Um, and I think a huge part ofthat is realizing that there are
things I have, there are changesthat need to be made, and that's
okay.
That's part of the process.
And like one of the ladies I waslistening to earlier this week,
she was like, I feel like, likewe definitely need a different
(32:07):
word for failure because we'renot, like, that's not what it
is.
We're like, they were talkingabout their failed offers as
coaches, you know, and the one,the one girl got her turn to
speak and she was like, well, Iwas writing them down and I've,
so far, I've come up with 35.
35 that I made zero zero.
And this woman pulls in millionsof dollars a year now, and she's
(32:29):
been in business for five years.
And she was like 34 0.
And like the first 15 of thosewere when I just started five
years ago.
Like it's, it's what happens,but it's literally not failure,
like every time.
And she, I kind of connectedwith her the most because she
said, you know, that firstoffer, like at the beginning it
(32:51):
was trying to just forcesomething to happen that wasn't
right.
Like she thought it might havebeen right.
But she learned that it wasn't,and that it's not failure.
So we keep, right, like we keep
Chris (33:03):
trying, like in, in, in my industry in particular,
getting to the point of failingfast is the way you make
long-term money.
Like your Yeah.
Your tiny little biotechs thatcan get to the point where they
know that that isn't gonna work.
Hey, this delivery mechanism forthis particular thing isn't
gonna work, so be done with itand go on to the next, like,
(33:26):
failing fast is a way to drivethings forward.
Like how many, and that's
Sarah (33:32):
a great,
Chris (33:33):
and the,
Sarah (33:35):
I just wanna say that's something great, like, that's
something that makes a lot ofsense.
Uh, which just literally yousaying that because one of the
things in my mind was, well,geez, I feel like I really
didn't even give it that much ofa chance.
But I feel like why are yougonna continue to give something
a chance where you've, yourecognize it's, this isn't the
(33:55):
way I should be going.
Like then change, it's, it'sokay.
Like if there's zero proof thatthis is gonna result in
anything, uh, this isn't, so Ineed to move on.
Chris (34:09):
And the, the other like side effect consequence of being
able to pivot and pivot quicklyis that sometimes you get
yourself in a situation whereyou have like an unintended, uh,
you have an unintended surprise.
So the way, uh, Pfizer makestheir money is mostly Viagra.
At, at some point they were,they came up with this Viagra,
(34:32):
this blockbuster medication.
Um.
But it was an accident.
Like that was a, like, that is aside effect of another
medication that they were tryingto, that they were trying to
market.
Like, they were like, oh no, um,bad this happening.
Some guy was taking his
Sarah (34:50):
heart attack medicine and ended up with a boner.
Chris (34:53):
Like a lot of'em, they're like, oh my God, this causes
bone.
And they were like,
Sarah (34:59):
oh no.
Chris (35:01):
Hmm.
Sarah (35:01):
Oh no.
What problem can I solve?
Chris (35:05):
Right.
Right.
I mean, it's, it's sointeresting that like the
evolution of that and the factthat like, you can write down 35
failures.
Of course you can.
You never did this before, soYeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Write down your 35 failures.
Figure the three that work andget after it.
Sarah (35:22):
Right.
And it's the, it's just, uh,there, there's, there's more to
it.
But the place I am right now isI did have, I did invest a
little bit of money to do whatI've done so far.
Um, and when I say a little, itwas comparatively speaking to
business investments, prettysmall.
But, um, but that's all I got.
(35:43):
So now I gotta, I don't have anyother choice.
I, I gotta figure out what I,what I can do with, with what I
have.
And, oh,
Chris (35:51):
and I'll give you another, what is not inspiration
to, to compare with, you know,gene therapies that make kids
here.
And, uh, boners, uh, MiltonHershey.
Milton Hershey started hisbusiness.
He didn't even know how to makefucking chocolate.
Like yeah, he didn't know how tomake chocolate.
Like he hired a sales guy tosell the chocolate before he
(36:13):
knew how to make chocolate.
And he didn't have, like, yeah,he built a town based on maybe
selling chocolate.
So yeah,
Sarah (36:25):
I mean, I love that.
I have, um, I have one morething.
It's not to this, I just haveone more thing I wanna bring up.
I, uh, was listening to a MarkManson thing this morning, and I
have a book.
I know that we haven't beenreading books, but I have a book
that I would like to check outand that I think that would be
perfect for you as well.
It's called The Burnout Societyby Bong.
(36:46):
Chohan.
Chris (36:47):
I don't know, I don't know what you're talking about,
Sarah (36:49):
right?
Chris (36:50):
I don't know what you're talking about,
Sarah (36:51):
but yeah.
I feel like it would be a goodread for, for us.
Oh, can you, um, all of thatsaid that's enough, Sarah.
Time.
I think we can move on.
Chris (37:02):
All right, cool.
Text me the name of the book'cause I really do wanna get
back into doing, doing some,some reading on the podcast.
Um, I can talk about my A DDH,adhd.
I purchased a bunch of booksrecently too.
I'm, I, I can talk about thatall day, but we should probably
talk about stuff that otherpeople wanna talk about too.
Alright.
What are we doing next?
Okay.
Oh, the gastro story of theweek.
(37:23):
Um, alright, I'll, I'll start usoff.
Oh, shoot.
Um, and then you can add color.
So when I was Okay, probably 11,10.
So you were kindergarten ish?
Um, I got, I got real into, uh,studio wrestling mostly.
'cause one of my friends, uh,Regina b uh, was into it.
(37:49):
And she was the coolest personthat I knew.
And if she said that, it wascool, then it was cool.
And then I went to junior highand there were a bunch of boys
that also liked, uh, uh, studiowrestling.
So then I, then I, then Idefinitely, uh, found a place.
I was like, other people like totalk about this too, and bonus,
they're boys who are cute andsometimes smell good, so.
(38:12):
I'm all in.
Um, I mean, that's what Ithought of.
They definitely didn't
Sarah (38:17):
smell good.
It was too
Chris (38:18):
high.
So sometimes they did, sometimesand they smell like your car.
They were wearing, they werewearing like a whole lot of
polo, like a whole lot.
And I don't know if you rememberthe smell of that, but like a
moth to a flame.
Yeah, I was like
Sarah (38:32):
the polo mixed with the, um, the, the Benetton perfume
colors of Benetton.
Is that what was Oh my god, yes.
The name of the perfume.
Do you remember the, like thosetwo mixed together?
Chris (38:45):
A junior high dance.
It makes my
Sarah (38:46):
stomach turn now.
Chris (38:48):
Junior high dance.
Like, but at the time I waslike, I would like to continue
smelling you, uh, smelldelicious.
Um, right sniff, sniff.
Not weird at all.
Um, so, you know, on Saturdaysin the afternoons after the
cartoons rover, um, it wouldthen flip over to, uh,
(39:09):
wrestling.
You could watch WWF.
Um, and it was Hulk Hogan.
It was the Iron Sheik.
It was Jimmy Superfly ska whowould jump off the top rope off
the Turnbuckle.
He would stand up there and hewould super fly you.
And we were doing that shit intothe pool in the summer and Yep.
Yeah.
Then for some reason, I'm sureit's because I was interested in
(39:31):
it, it exploded.
So then you had like tag teams,like the British Bulldogs and
Brett, the Hitman Heart and Jimthe Anvil, Nightheart, and, um,
your dad's favorite one, George,the Animal Seal, who would eat
the Turnbuckle Yes.
And the green tongue, like theyfed him candy before and he
would have like a green tongueand he would just walk around
(39:52):
and, and I, there was always agood guy and a bad guy and that
was very appealing to my senseof, uh, attention deficit order
justice.
So.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it was, it was all, itwas all just perfect.
Just perfect.
Sarah (40:09):
Um.
And you are correct.
Do you watch, um, beyond theRing or the dark side of the
ring?
N
Chris (40:16):
no.
Sarah (40:16):
These are things that you should start watching if you
don't.
I think one of them is on a ande and Noah watches them all the
time and they are ridiculouslyinteresting.
Actually.
The one on, um, uh, what doesnuts, uh, the Kilt wearing Roddy
Piper.
Chris (40:32):
Oh.
He turned into an actor like hewas in movies.
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
I came here to kick ass withchew bubblegum and I'm all out
of bubblegum
Sarah (40:41):
and I'm outta bubblegum.
Mm-hmm.
He, um, that I highly suggest, Idon't know if that's a dark side
of the ring outside the darkside of the ring, I think it's
called.
I'll have,
Chris (40:49):
I loved
Sarah (40:49):
him.
I highly, that was my favorite.
There was a, there's a lot ofthem and they're all really
good, but his was, was myfavorite.
He was one that was really,really good at separating his
personal life and like, theyinterview his wife and his kids
and it's really, um.
Yeah.
It, it was just, it was reallygood.
Like, oh good.
(41:10):
Oh good.
They just, they, they seemedlike a, a good family and
whatnot.
But I mean, a lot of it's fuckedup.
Like the shit you didn't see inthat world, the shit you don't
see in that world is fucked.
Chris (41:22):
I mean, I was into it to the point, and I don't know if
you remember this, but I did aterm paper on it in my gifted
program.
Like we had to do a researchproject.
I mean, yeah.
And my research project was theimpact of studio wrestling, the
history and impact of studiowrestling on modern society.
(41:43):
So I was researching.
And you didn't even have the
Sarah (41:45):
internets back then?
Chris (41:47):
No.
Sarah (41:48):
Was there a lot of information in the public
library?
Chris (41:52):
Well, I had to go to the library in junior high, and I
have a vague memory of ourlibrarian in junior high.
And she had, uh, she had crosseyes.
Yeah, if I like, I don't knowwhy.
Mm-hmm.
And that might be just a dream.
But I remember it was very hardto, I feel like
Sarah (42:07):
that makes sense.
I feel like I remember that
Chris (42:10):
if, if she was talking to me or not, but she was always
very helpful.
And you know, she's justinundated with the, with the
gifted kids who all have, youknow, anxiety and wanna do this
really well, even though it'sjust for our, you know,
essentially our study hall thatwe all have together.
Um, but we would all bring our,our, our topics and she's like,
(42:31):
okay, what's your theory?
And I was like, my what?
No, I just wanna learn about it.
She's like, no, no, you have tohave a theory.
Like essentially the librariantaught us, um.
Yeah, what we, what we weredoing.
Um, but I was like, here's,here's mine.
She was like, okay, well look upMcCarthyism and look up like
1920s, look up 1930s, like dothis.
(42:51):
And I was like, oh, I get tolearn all about history and
Bruno San Martino.
Right, right.
And then I, you know, you, youpull up articles, something like
12, like deep into the research,deep into the research.
Um, at the same time, I'm alsowatching it every Saturday and
I'm, I'm collecting, I don'tknow if you, um, ever did this,
(43:14):
but at the Giant Eagle, uh,where we would go grocery
shopping, right there at thebottom of Wiggles Hill, um
mm-hmm.
They would, uh, there was amagazine, the pay section,
Sarah (43:23):
the days,
Chris (43:24):
the paydays, oh my God, I forgot it was called payday.
Sarah (43:28):
Do you remember
Chris (43:28):
the magazine section?
Gee,
Sarah (43:31):
do you remember my obsession with new kids on the
block?
Do I remember the fuckingmagazine section?
Are you kidding me, Sarah?
You can't get 17 magazinestoday.
We need to go get generic potatochips.
Chris (43:46):
We need, we need the black and white bulk purchase
peanuts right now.
We have to go,
Sarah (43:52):
yeah, Christine
Chris (43:53):
put this.
There's no more Tiger Beat foryou books down.
I was like, well, if she, if shegets that, can I have two
Stephen King books and a WWFmagazine, so I can cut out the
poster of Paul Hogan and put iton my wall?
Like in WrestleMania.
Also, the, the evolution ofpay-per-view, like WrestleMania,
(44:15):
I think was in Detroit,Michigan, WrestleMania one I'm
talking about.
Was in Detroit, Michigan at theSilver Dome maybe.
Does that sound right?
Silver Dome.
Anyway, it, it held a lot ofpeople and there were a lot of
people gonna be there and Reginab and I kept lobbying to go,
like, we thought that our dadswere gonna be able to take us to
(44:37):
Michigan to sit in a footballstadium.
Can you see that?
To sit in a football stadium.
Oh my God.
I can only imagine Token.
Our two fathers.
Oh my God.
No, they've been singing in theparking lot.
I'm sorry,
Sarah (44:51):
I'm gonna have to correct you though.
It might have been a differentone because WrestleMania won
was, uh, at Madison SquareGarden.
Chris (45:01):
It, it makes sense.
It makes sense.
Like my, yeah, it might havebeen like WrestleMania two or
WrestleMania three that was in,that was in cardiac Michigan.
Look it up.
Look it up while I tell thestory.
I'm look
Sarah (45:13):
them all up right now.
I'm gonna look up all thelocations.
Okay, go ahead.
Chris (45:16):
But I think this is how we ended up going to our first
live WWF event, uh, at the civicarena in Pittsburgh.
Because that was like thecompromise.
Like no way the jumbo was gonnaput us in the car and drive us
to Michigan or whereverWrestleMania was.
Oh fuck.
Like, no way.
Come on now.
Sarah (45:37):
No, we,
Chris (45:38):
we didn't have money to go roller skating at the same
time, so there's no way.
But we did scrape enough moneytogether that the family, like
four tickets to, uh,WrestleMania three.
I
Sarah (45:50):
can wait.
WrestleMania three was inPontiac Silver Dome in Pontiac,
Michigan.
I knew it.
Is that the one that you werethinking of?
Yes.
That's the one.
That's 1980.
That was 1987.
Chris (46:01):
Yeah.
14.
Yeah.
That makes perfect sense.
13.
Sarah (46:06):
Mm-hmm.
Chris (46:06):
I think probably'cause it was in the winter maybe.
I don't know.
Um, but does it say who themarch, March 29th.
Still cold.
Um, so I hadn't turned 14 yet.
I was 13.
Um, does it say who the headlinematch was?
Was it Hulk Hogan versussomething else?
And I can't remember.
(46:26):
Hogan was a good guy or a badguy.
Sarah (46:31):
Well, I could see the picture of it.
Let me make sure I'm gonna, canyou guess, can you guess Hulk
Hogan against I can't guess.
I
Chris (46:39):
can't, I can't remember.
Um, uh, Mr.
T, but I think I'm mixing Upingmovies.
Princess, the Andre, the
Sarah (46:48):
Giants, the main feud stemmed from Andre the Giants
heel turn and betrayal of hisfriend, the WWF World
Heavyweight Champion, HulkHogan.
I don't, which began on anepisode of Piper's Pit when WWF
(47:08):
President Jack Toy Toy, yeah.
Presented Hogan with a trophyfor being the WW F World
heavyweight champion.
For three years, Andre Hogan'sgood friend, came out to con
congratulate him, butCryptically remarked three years
to be a champion.
It's a long time.
A week later on an episode ofPiper's Pit 20 Percented, Andre,
(47:30):
with a visibly smaller trophyfor being undefeated in the WWF.
For 15 years, Hogan came out tocongratulate Andre, but before
the Giant could speak, Hoganended up being the focal point
of the interview.
Annoyed by this, Andre stormedout during Hogan's
congratulations speech.
(47:51):
There's more to it.
You get the, my God, a lot of ithappened on Piper's pit, though.
Chris (47:56):
Oh, I like so many memories.
I don't know why we haven'ttalked about this before, but it
is so fundamental to, maybe thisis, we should
Sarah (48:04):
switch, uh, we should switch our podcast from mental
health to talking about ww fwrestling
Chris (48:11):
and not like modern times.
Just, just, just going over Ohyeah.
No episode of Piper's Pit.
Sarah (48:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're just talking about likelate eighties.
Right?
Chris (48:24):
Right.
That's it, that's all.
Maybe that's all I want.
Just 1980s.
Sarah (48:27):
Yeah.
Chris (48:27):
That's all I want.
Sarah (48:28):
Yeah.
Chris (48:28):
Is is just that, just that very specific era.
Um, so, uh, we weren't going tothat like, no, we're not going,
we're not going to that.
In fact, I think on the samenight, either WrestleMania one
or this WrestleMania, we had abirthday party at, at, uh,
showbiz Pizza for somebody atSt.
Michael's
Sarah (48:49):
Showbiz.
Chris (48:51):
Right.
So just to put everyone in theright head space, I'm playing
Cubert, me and Marty, uh, Marty,uh, Marty, who had a band, you
know, you know the Marty I'mspeaking of, um, left on board.
Marty F.
Marty F Yes.
Uh, uh, I'm, I'm playing Cubert.
Me and Marty f are playingCubert at the same time.
(49:11):
WrestleMania is happening justto, you know, kind of.
Set the scene.
Uh, so we we're not going tothat, but Jumbo will take us to
the civic arena.
Like me, you, our family offour, uh, Gina B's, uh, family
of three.
We're all going, we're allgoing.
We get all hyped up.
Like there's outfits and there'sa, a ton of hairspray applied to
(49:33):
my hair.
Hair.
There might have even beenactual shaving of the sides.
Like it was a big deal.
Big deal.
Sarah (49:41):
You've never shaved the side of your head.
Shuffle on top.
Yes, I did.
Chris (49:44):
Yes I did.
Just a teeny like No, you didn'tthis much.
Yes I did.
Yes I did.
Right here.
Right here.
I remember.
No, that's a
Sarah (49:50):
mullet.
You're confusing yourself.
That was when you got yourhaircut into a mullet.
Quit trying to, uh, to frame itas though you were getting a
cool shaved side head.
Think, no, I You got yourhaircut into the style of a
mullet.
Shut up, Sarah.
(50:11):
Just keeping it real.
Fine,
Chris (50:13):
fine, fine.
Maybe I had a mullet.
Maybe I did.
Maybe I did.
But I feel like 13.
I was definitely doing somethingwith a perm.
Like there was definitely a permhappening.
Permed, mullet.
Fair.
Sarah (50:26):
Fuck.
Yeah.
Serious.
I mean,'cause that's what it is.
The mullet.
You're just cutting this realshort.
Chris (50:31):
Right?
So like, just right above myear, just like a, a centimeter.
You say centimeter.
And then I was able to slickthat back and everything else
would puff around.
Not in a, not in a cool chipway.
Yeah.
That's terrible.
But more of like a LauraBrannigan, uh, kind of way.
Sarah (50:48):
Anyway, this episode is just making my stomach turn over
and over and over again.
Chris (50:54):
Well, I think on the way back from, this is where we
stopped at the Denny's.
In West Mifflin.
Like we, we made it a night,right?
Like, and we stopped at theDenny's in West Mifflin, and you
had a elementary school meltdownbecause the people, uh, would
not cut your, uh, kitty catbreakfast into the right shapes.
(51:20):
It did not, it did not look likea kitty cat.
And you were
Sarah (51:24):
pissed.
Mm-hmm.
No.
Pissed 100 fucking percent.
When you put something on themenu and you advertise it as a
kitty cat, and there's a pictureof it that looks like a fucking
kitty cat, and the toasts arethe little ears, and the bacon
is the whiskers.
You put that shit on the platelooking like a fucking kitty
cat.
I am 47 years old and I stillstand behind this meltdown'cause
(51:47):
that's fucking ridiculous.
You were like not
Chris (51:51):
eating this.
I
Sarah (51:53):
mean, you, it doesn't look like a fucking cat.
And your par, your parents were,I mean, let's be real.
I wasn't eating any of that shitanyway.
I might've taken a bite of thetoast in the bacon maybe, but I
wasn't eating any of that shiton my plate.
Pancakes.
It's not even meatloaf.
Nope.
I just curious.
I just wanted to see the fuckingcat
Chris (52:13):
at 11 o'clock on a Friday at the Denny's.
You were like, can I speak tothis chef?
Sarah (52:17):
Please?
Chris (52:19):
Can the chef come out and explain his logic for the
plating here?
Because it is wrong.
It is what we like to call.
Sarah (52:27):
And then he sat hilarious in my eggs.
Chris (52:29):
Right, right.
It's a good thing you didn't eatit, even if it came, when it
came back out, because your momwas like, excuse
Sarah (52:35):
me.
Yeah.
Chris (52:36):
Your me little mother who wouldn't even order pizza
mm-hmm.
Was like, excuse me.
Um, I don't wanna be a pain.
Excuse me.
Pardon me.
I'm just a
Sarah (52:46):
bird.
My huge pain.
Chris (52:47):
She's, she, I don't know if you can see there are tears
happening and why we can't haveit.
We can't have it.
She's almost 10, but we can'thave it.
She's eight.
We're not gonna be able to, theride home will be intolerable.
So if you could just make thatlook like a cat off you go.
Sarah (53:07):
Mm-hmm.
Chris (53:08):
Compliments otherwise to the chef.
So
Sarah (53:11):
yeah,
Chris (53:12):
that, that is my gastro story of the week.
My never ending love of, ofstudio wrestling and the British
Bulldogs, because that was myteam like, and um, Gina and I
divided the British Bulldogs andlike one was slightly more good
looking, so she took theslightly, uh, more good looking
bulldog and I had, I was like,oh, well he's got, he's got
(53:33):
excellent personality, soobviously he's
Sarah (53:36):
nuts.
Chris (53:37):
Uh, that one's mine.
Yeah.
Sarah (53:40):
Huh.
Yeah, I mean, I bet that oneread books and shit.
Chris (53:43):
Sure he did.
Sure he did.
Sarah (53:44):
He has a country estate personality.
It's exactly what Davy Boy Smithand Dynamite Kid.
Chris (53:52):
Uh, Davy Boy Smith, I think is the one that, uh, uh,
that Gina got.
I got the Dynamite Kids.
That makes sense.
Sarah (54:00):
Um, divided them, you know,
Chris (54:01):
I'm looking at them right now and I don't, I'm not sure
either.
Like, I don't really see a lotof the, either of them is, is
really good looking.
Um, Gina's never ending lovethough was, um, Brett the Hitman
heart, but I wasn't gonna takeGeorge.
Like I had standards.
Like I'm not gonna, like theAnvil is not gonna be my guy.
I, I don't care.
He's, he was also old enough tobe my Papp at that point, I
(54:23):
think.
Yeah.
He was like a holdover from the1930s.
He wrestled with Bruno andMartinez.
Sarah (54:31):
Um, yeah.
Also if, and that's VinceMcMahon who makes my stomach
turn.
Like that's another turning.
Yeah,
Chris (54:37):
we're not, I thought we were only talking about happy
stuff.
Also, um, if you guys, sorry,
Sarah (54:42):
sorry.
Chris (54:42):
Into studio wrestling.
Um, and you can correct anythingthat I've said here, uh, you
know, beyond my fact checker.
Uh, feel free to, uh, drop us aline at, uh, gastro
girls@gmail.com.
There we go.
There's the plug for the email.
Hi, can I
Sarah (54:58):
share,
Chris (55:01):
send it to me.
I'll, I wanna share screen.
Put it on screen.
How do you do that?
Oh, it's share.
It's right next to the phonebutton.
Don't hit the phone button.
That's for later.
Yeah.
Sarah (55:12):
Um, hold on.
Let me know when you can see it.
Oh my god, I can see it.
Okay.
So look, this is my favoritepart.
Hold on.
Uh, where'd it go?
Where'd it go?
Here we go.
What is that?
Oh, no.
What.
What, what is that?
(55:34):
What?
No.
Why is that?
The picture that's there,
Chris (55:39):
is he the only one someone had?
This must be his mom.
She's like, this is my favoritepicture.
Does he have breaks?
Sarah (55:48):
So, sorry, everybody.
If you're, if you're, what if,if you're not on the YouTubes,
you're gonna have to, wow.
You guys gotta get to the Idon't YouTubes.
Holy, holy moly.
Chris (56:03):
Yes.
Yeah, that was, I think thatwas, and mine was the other one.
Oh no.
Oh, honestly, uh, it's allright.
I know, I know it's an audiomedium, but check out.
Sarah (56:21):
Okay.
My whole weekend.
I do have bad news for youthough.
Chris (56:24):
What?
You have to go.
Sarah (56:25):
I know.
Okay.
Well we're, we've been recordingfor 56 minutes and, um,
Chris (56:31):
alright.
Uh, real, real quick.
A DHD update and then, and thenwe'll wrap up.
Um, okay.
So I made an appointment to seea new psychiatrist and I was
surprised because this one wouldtake online appointments and I
was like, that is so much moreconvenient for me.
Right.
Um, that seems great.
Love it.
(56:52):
Uh, but then I, I go to theappointment, I get all excited
about the appointment and I'mlike, oh yes, fantastic.
Um, this is gonna work outgreat.
I get on there and she's like,hi, what are we seeing you for
today?
And I'm like, oh no.
Oh no.
She doesn't know.
She doesn't know.
So I go over the whole, youknow, diagnosis of the A DHD and
how like the Vyvanse is thething that keeps me, uh, alive.
(57:16):
And uh, she's like, oh, well wedon't, uh, we don't manage the
schedule, uh, whatever.
We don't manage the controlledsubstances.
And I was like, again, I feellike a drug addict.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah.
Well I think we can probablyjust end the call'cause there's
no point in me telling you, uh,everything that's happening with
me for you to just give me likesome.
(57:39):
Worksheets to do, because thatwill, that will not be, that
will not be enough.
Um, and she was like, oh, I'mvery sorry.
Um, do you wanna talk aboutanything else?
And I was like, Nope, notreally.
And then I feel like even moreof a dry Yeah.
I'd like to talk about how
Sarah (57:52):
fucking annoyed I am.
Chris (57:55):
Right?
Like, I could have made anappointment for, uh, this time
because again, you gotta waitfor the appointment, right?
It's not like they have like,the next day Anyway, so I was
just so irritated by that.
Um, so I started looking up, uh,resources for Attention Deficit
Disorder online.
Like, you know, whatever I coulduse to kind of get me through,
(58:16):
in addition to having Chadmanage my schedule and what
I've, what I've really, reallyenjoyed the past couple weeks is
recording my meetings and havingan ai, uh, summarize them.
It's been a,
Sarah (58:29):
yeah.
Chris (58:31):
Godsend.
As long as everyone agrees to merecording it, then I am, then I,
I can do that and I can have thesummary there and I can put in
action items and I can put themwhere they, where they need to
be.
It's been really helpful andthat's, that's what I got.
I am, I am, I have made anotherappointment at an actual
in-person place, but again, Ican't do that either I'm out of
(58:54):
town or they're not availableuntil the middle of October, so
that is six weeks away.
So then, um, yeah, I will justdo the best that I can.
So if I'm a
Sarah (59:06):
firm believer of medication, I love the
medication and, um, copingstrategies as well.
Right.
So, um.
In 2025, the amount ofinformation that you can find
for coping with a DH adhd Yes.
Simply via the interwebs is,it's pretty amazing.
(59:28):
Amazing.
Chris (59:29):
My, my girl Mel Robbins has a, has a podcast and I was
ready to hate it.
Like she's got like three orfour episodes just on a DHD
'cause she, uh, herself, uh,suffers from a DH ADHD and takes
the medicine for it.
And like I was ready to be, asdoes Mark
Sarah (59:47):
Manson.
Well, I don't, mark, go ahead.
Sorry.
I was ready
Chris (59:50):
to be angry with her because, you know, my, in
general, I mm-hmm.
Like her, it's something abouther tone, but she does have
really, really good advice andreally good resources.
So I was kind of using
Sarah (01:00:01):
those and yeah, I mean.
She hasn't gotten to the pointwhere she is like being an
asshole.
Like, I mean, or being terribleat what she does.
Like she obviously deserves towhere she to be, where she is.
Um, but yes, mark Manson has theA DHD.
I don't believe that he takesmedication anymore.
He did try medication at onepoint, but it made him, um, not
(01:00:25):
himself and he didn't like it.
So, um.
He's, if you can find any, markManson, a DHD resources.
I mean, I highly suggest
Chris (01:00:35):
there's a, there's a couple of books that's just me
and a couple of like,strategies.
And I do love the idea ofleveraging AI to kind of keep me
on task.
Like, like give me, yeah, giveme, um, give me just a couple of
things to focus on.
And that is something that, thatthe AI is good at.
He's like, here's the thingsthat have to get done today.
(01:00:56):
Cool.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Sarah (01:00:58):
Thank you.
And speaking of things that haveto get done today, did you drop
my romper off at Mommy andDaddy's?
I did.
I did yesterday
Chris (01:01:07):
and it's so cute.
You're gonna love it.
Sarah (01:01:09):
I'm so excited.
You're gonna love it.
Let's get my romper.
Chris (01:01:12):
Alright, so that is my, that is my, uh, mental health,
uh, portion of it is that Icontinue.
Um, I continue to struggle withthe way that we approach, uh,
how these, uh, how these thingsare managed and availability and
if we could just get more, uh,psychiatrists or nurse
(01:01:34):
practitioners or people, if wecould just look at these things
in maybe a slightly differentway, uh, that would be so
helpful.
I have no idea how to affectthat change, but I think talking
about it's probably the firstplace.
So here, I'm,
Sarah (01:01:50):
that's it.
And I would like to use this asa place where I can say, you now
know this, even though it's nothow we want it to be, you know
that this is how it is.
Yes.
So now you need to take this asa little nudge that you need to
(01:02:12):
move your focus on planning,getting your medication.
Right.
A little bit higher on your listto make sure that you don't get
yourself into these positionsagain, this is where we learn
and, uh, adjust, adapt.
Yep.
Chris (01:02:28):
Yeah.
Uh, Olivia and I had that sameconversation'cause she, um, she
also takes the same medicationhowever she is in North Carolina
and, uh, you can't send aprescription to North Carolina.
So her prescriber is N pa.
I have to pick up herprescription in Pennsylvania and
then I have to FedEx it to her.
So I had to overnight it, uh,because you also can't get it
(01:02:52):
early and.
Yeah, just because it is a, um,controlled substance, which
stinks.
So she and I have to do a lot ofplanning and coordination.
She and I have to do a lot ofcoordination.
And that's the lesson, is thatYeah, I got it.
I have a reminder to get itexactly 30 days.
(01:03:14):
And then she has got a reminderthat whenever she shakes it and
it feels later, that she's gottatell me right away, like, I'm,
I'm running out so that I can dothe things that have to happen.
So yes, we're learning a lot.
You have
Sarah (01:03:29):
to wait for her to shake it and determine or can, you
can't, no.
Can't you just like, that's thefail.
Do it
Chris (01:03:33):
like that's the backup.
Like, because we are the waythat we are, we need, we need
two plans at least.
So the first plan is I look atthat reminder, I order the
medication.
If that didn't happen, sheshakes it and she's like, shit,
there's only four in here.
'cause that's when it soundsdifferent.
And she sends me a text andsays, Hey, did you order it?
(01:03:54):
And I'm like, yes I did.
It'll be there Thursday.
Hopefully.
That's the way it goes.
Great.
Hitting the button.
Sarah (01:04:01):
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
The fuck, I'm five minutes away.
I'm not still at home, Ipromise.
I love you and
Chris (01:04:12):
And still we rise still.
We rise.
Sarah (01:04:17):
Yes.
I'm sorry that I have to go.
I'm sorry that I have to cut usshort.
I'm sorry that I took a moretime than I expected at the
beginning talking about mybusiness.
Chris (01:04:26):
No, no, I love it.
I have to pee real bad anyway,so I'm kind of excited.
Sarah (01:04:30):
Okay.
Alright.
Alright, awesome.
Well enjoy the rest of yourweekend at the cabin and I can't
wait to hear about it.
I'm sure it will be wonderful.
Oh my God.
The way.
So you've been like really fuzzythis whole time and the way you
were just leaning.
I thought you fell off yourstool.
I did not.
I did not.
I kind of wish you had because Ifeel like that would've been
(01:04:51):
really funny.
I mean, I don't you to hurtyourself or anything, but
anyway.
Alright, love you.
Alright, love you.
Hello.
Welcome to the Mental FunnyBone, a comedy mental health
podcast where we touch onvarious topics related to mental
health and we try to make youlaugh, uh, despite the tears.
Sarah (00:16):
I'm Christine, I'm Sarah.
And sometimes we don't talkabout anything, but just the two
of us, right?
Um, and a lot of the time thatlands in the mental health realm
of things.
Chris (00:33):
Right.
Um, it frequently does.
Uh, it will today for sure.
Um, so here's, here's ourlineup.
Uh, we will tell the people whatit is too.
Uh, first we're gonna do alittle catch up corner.
Okay.
Because, uh, you and I haven'ttalked in over 24 hours, so
there's stuff for us to catch upon.
Yeah.
Um, we're gonna talk a littlebit about growing up Gaster and
(00:54):
what it was like to have anolder sister, uh, who was really
into studio wrestling.
So that's gonna be our gasterstory of the week.
Yes.
Uh, and then we're gonna, I like
Sarah (01:05):
this.
I like this.
Chris (01:06):
We're gonna invite you guys to join us on some of our
adventures this fall.
So we're gonna talk about the,uh, out of darkness walk.
Um, and I think that might bethe only thing we're doing this
fall,'cause we're both prettybusy.
Um, oh, we're going on ameditation retreat, which I
can't stop talking about.
Sarah (01:26):
Um, and then, yeah, and I got a new pillow for my ass, so
I'm super excited to talk aboutthe Ass pillow
Chris (01:32):
Game changer is what I'm hearing about the meditation
pillow.
Um, and then we're gonna getinto some mental health stuff,
because we're gonna talk about ADHD and how it's fucking with me
these days.
What?
Yeah.
I can't, I can't stop.
Won't stop.
I'm
Sarah (01:48):
not sure why you thought, I'm not sure why you thought
that was like a needed tomention in the lineup for
things.
I feel like that's just what itrevolves around.
Chris (01:59):
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
I did some research this weekand, uh, uh, we're gonna mention
my good friend.
Oh, good.
Mel Robbins, if you rememberour, our friend Mel.
We're gonna let them Good, good.
Punish it.
Um, we're gonna talk about somecoping mechanisms that I've
developed over the past eightweeks and, uh, we're gonna talk
about how I continue to beunmedicated, mostly because I
(02:21):
have a DHD.
It's very unfair.
Um, and then we're gonna, we'regonna, I like these
Sarah (02:27):
cause these are all things I'm gonna argue with you
about.
Chris (02:30):
I can't, I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Um, I, I did also put this inhere so that not only you but
our listeners would kind of holdme accountable too.
Um, we're gonna talk about therole of adrenaline in A DHD and
how I've gotten more tattoos inthe past eight weeks than, than
(02:50):
I have in the, the previous fouryears.
Um, and then we're gonna telleach other goodbye, uh, at the
end.
And we're gonna say, I love youand hang up.
That is, uh, that's what we'regoing to do today.
So there we go.
Might I add any, anything?
Well, yeah, I suppose so.
(03:11):
It's, it's half your podcast.
Oh, oh.
First off, before we go anyfurther, it's just
Sarah (03:18):
a therapy session.
Really,
Chris (03:21):
honestly.
Honestly, why, why pay?
Why pay when I can just do this?
Mm-hmm.
Sarah (03:27):
Um,
Chris (03:28):
we also have to mention, uh, Becca, the intern who is,
uh, who's taken a little timeoff, uh, and she's in Nashville,
so when she comes back, I want afull report because Nashville is
the best place on the planet, inmy opinion.
Sometimes I, not on a Saturday,kind of like Aruba,
Sarah (03:48):
but Nashville's like kind of cool during the day.
Nashville's really cool day isthe way to go.
I feel like there's, like, forNashville, there's like age
planning, like right, dependingon how old you are, that
determines when your prime timeis in Nashville and in our age
range, it's from noon.
(04:11):
To five to two Sunday afternoon.
No, actually 9:00 AM Right?
9:00 AM because you gotta go getsome breakfast, then you drink
all day and go to various barsthat are playing wonderful
music, right?
And then you get dinner and goto bed at six.
Chris (04:31):
I, I think it's a perfect plan and you're less likely to
run into a bachelorette partyduring this time.
And you can line dance poorly.
And no one really judges thatbecause poor line dancing is the
only line dancing.
But I am interested to hearwhat, uh, the younger generation
does in Nashville, because I'msure Becca is gonna come back
(04:53):
with, you know, a differentreport, which will be nice to
hear.
Sarah (04:57):
They do, uh, they wake up at, at three o'clock, we're
winding down our day.
Thank, and they're getting upand going to breakfast.
It all works.
It really all works.
It's like, um, you know, themention of wrestling, it's like
tag team wrestling.
Like, hey, kids, old folkstagging out, have fun.
(05:18):
Get on that, get on that guys.
That's, that's what it's, yeah.
Like,
Chris (05:21):
Hey, we gotta
Sarah (05:22):
reach.
I feel rock far, probably.
There's lots more shots.
Chris (05:25):
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That doesn't,
Sarah (05:28):
there's more shots.
There's more.
Um, well, the length, the lengthof.
Of time, like a shift.
Like we are, we are, we're outlonger.
Our shift is longer because weare not, well, I know it depends
on who you're with.
Chris (05:45):
I don't know.
I don't know.
It's, it's also if I'm doing
Sarah (05:47):
shots, I'm going to sleep, but I'm not doing shots.
So our, our length of time is alittle more sustainable.
A little longer while they'reheading out and doing shots at
5:00 PM Why?
No, thank you.
I dunno.
Yeah.
And they're probably throwing upon themselves by like eight, and
(06:08):
then the third shift comes in ateight.
And those, we, that's a wholedifferent, that's a, that's been
a, a part of the world.
I'm not sure I've ever beeninvolved in.
Chris (06:20):
I don't, I
Sarah (06:20):
don't, I definitely have been.
Chris (06:21):
No, I haven't, I haven't.
Like the, there, the, the kidsthat come out at like 3:00 AM
they've been pre-gaming sincelike 1130.
But different places like
Sarah (06:31):
you do remember when we went to San Diego?
Nope, that didn't happen.
Okay.
Yeah, that didn't happen.
I bought a lot of, I bought alot of pucker after that.
Chris (06:45):
I still have it a hundred percent lot.
There's 30-year-old.
Yeah.
You can make all sorts ofdifferent martinis.
Sarah (06:57):
Yeah.
There's all sorts of differentflavored pucker that you can
make martinis out of, butthey're not real martinis.
No.
Like I, if I'm drinking martinithese days, I'm drinking the
older folk martini, which wouldbe the dirty martini.
Chris (07:12):
Right.
There's a lot of olive juice andvery little vermouth.
Mm-hmm.
Like I don't even think vermouthwas an ingredient in these
martinis.
We were drinking at the martinibranch, like it was just pucker
and vodka.
We're just mixing that shittogether.
Yeah.
I remember going to the earlyinternet and looking up the
rules for shipping alcoholbecause I was gonna send you
(07:34):
martini ingredient unquotemartini ingredients to your home
Sarah (07:42):
with
Chris (07:43):
shake
Sarah (07:43):
shaker.
And the, the early, uh, internetwas like, uh, that's not a
martini.
Chris (07:53):
The early internet said, what do I look like?
The post office ship?
What you want?
It's gonna be heavy, right?
Like your barrier is that it'sheavy and expensive.
Not that the US Post Officewon't take it.
Oh my God.
There are tears in my eyes, um,cry crying about the, the fruit
(08:13):
martini.
Um, and I think that was a waythat we incorporated fruit into
our diet.
Like it wasn't just, it wasn'tjust a drink, it was a, it was a
food group.
I'm like, Aw, well no, we'regood.
We had great martinis.
We're fine.
We can And milk, apparently.
Yeah.
'cause we were into the whiteRussians.
That's when you follow a fiveminute,
Sarah (08:35):
you follow a night of drinking vodka and pucker with a
loaded white Russian.
Oh.
So that's milk and vodka.
And I, I'm pretty sure I'mlactose intolerant.
Chris (08:52):
How, how did, I don't even know how.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That is a, that is a level.
That's third shift.
That's third shift.
That's definitely not usanymore.
We're, we're leading the pack.
We're open in the bar.
I'm like, Hey, it smells nicelike bleach in here.
Like, is that Fabuloso?
It smells delicious.
So clean.
I appreciate it much.
Fabulous.
Sarah (09:16):
Alright.
Uh, this is making my stomachturn,
Chris (09:20):
honestly, like just thinking about it.
Um, I will say that the lasttime I was in Nashville, I ended
up the night at like 10 30,which is crazy on whatever the
street is Broadway.
And I was eating a vendor hotdogat 11 o'clock and I thought it
was so cool.
That also is making my stomachhurt right now.
Sarah (09:42):
Yeah.
We ended the night with dry.
Our late night I think was like10, 10 30, um, right.
And it ended with gyros, right?
Like sometimes it ended withgyros and a vendor T-shirt that
said drunk cigs don't count.
Perfect.
Chris (09:58):
Per so appropriate the vendor T-shirts.
Mm-hmm.
Priceless.
Priceless.
Alright.
Um, or
Sarah (10:07):
street vendor, whatever the fuck.
Chris (10:09):
Whatever.
I, all of it.
All of it.
I'm here for it.
Um, so, um, Travis Kelsey gotengaged.
I don't know if you
Sarah (10:17):
know Yeah.
I love that.
I love that.
I think I heard something aboutit.
Um, yeah, that's what I'm a big,I'm a big fan of the couple.
Chris (10:30):
Yeah.
Like news this week is gonna be,I dig it completely.
Uh, Swifty focused for me.
Nothing else happens.
Yeah.
This week.
Besides those two gettingengaged, these two crazy kids.
Sarah (10:44):
And
Chris (10:44):
the fact, I feel like
Sarah (10:45):
this is the plan, just focusing on the good stuff.
Chris (10:48):
Right?
Right.
Yep.
Um, that your gym teacher andyour English teacher got married
and I'm not sure which is, whichis Taylor Swift, the gym
teacher.
Like that was the caption.
Think your No, it's not Taylor'sthe English teacher.
Okay.
Got it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That makes more sense.
Makes more sense.
It makes more sense.
Yeah.
'cause he's an athlete andshe's, she's a singer that
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dances a lot.
Um, also the funniest and writesmusic, the funniest memes where
just the Olivia's College had ameme where they put the two of
them getting engaged in front oftheir little old main.
And I was delighted by that one.
I'm like, oh, that's sowholesome.
And then I love that.
(11:31):
And then it got, and then it gotmean, like it got mean, and it
got dark real quick.
Like the one lady who said, uh,Travis Kelsey's about to read a
prenup that's longer than anybook he's ever read.
And I was like.
Sarah (11:47):
It's
Chris (11:47):
funny.
Sarah (11:48):
Yeah.
I mean, I don't think that'smean.
I think that's valid.
And I'm not sure if it's like,if you could look at it a couple
ways, like, I mean, it could bea two page prenup and it's just
talking shit on how much TravisKelsey reads.
Chris (12:04):
I was like, that's, or you could look at it
Sarah (12:06):
as Taylor Swift is ridiculous in the best way
possible and needs to have herfuture husband signed a sign, a
prenup that says, yeah,motherfucker, what's mine is
mine, which, and what?
Yours is mine you, you get tokeep, and that's all
Chris (12:23):
the, you get to keep all the rubber balls and I get to
keep all the books in mylibrary.
Sarah (12:29):
Yeah, I mean, I, I think they're gonna be all right.
I think it'll be all right.
Chris (12:33):
Those, it'll be alright.
I, I hope it works out for thosetwo crazy kids.
Super excited about that though.
Sarah (12:38):
Um, yeah, so I am, I'm, it makes me thankful like that
and other bad shit that went onthis week.
It makes me very thankful that Iam, uh, essentially off the
socials again.
Chris (12:49):
No, I think it's, I think it's the right move.
The, my socials are just for,uh, videos of otters, uh, French
rugby players.
Uh, and also for some reasonthey're throwing like a American
lady rugby players in there too.
And I'm not mad at it.
I'm not like French boy rugrugby players, American girl
rugby players.
I'm it, I love it.
(13:11):
I'm all for it.
Um, like the American
Sarah (13:13):
Girl Dolls playing rugby?
Chris (13:15):
No, no, no.
Like the, uh, like the girl whowas on Dancing With the Stars,
I, I, Iona, Iona, whoever,whoever that lady is, I like
her.
She is.
Wears killer lipstick.
I'm, I'm here for it.
Yeah.
Sarah (13:30):
Yeah.
I, um, so the reason I'm off thesocials is actually part of my
Sarah needs to focus more.
Oh.
Oh, this is so good.
Stab at life.
I love it.
Uh, because I am easilysidetracked by, uh, videos of
cats and shit.
(13:51):
So that's really what startedthe, I have to delete these
socials from my phone.
Yeah.
And if I want to do anything, Ihave to go onto the socials on
my computer, which we all knowis a pain in the ass.
So I go onto socials to checkmessages and, uh, schedule some,
some posts for my business.
(14:11):
And that's it.
Chris (14:13):
Love it.
Um, it, I, I'm having troublegiving up the Otter videos.
If I'm honest, like the oneswhere like they're, they're
complete, uh, fabrications, butwhere like a couple dos, an
otter.
These are coming up a lot.
They're AI generated and I don'tcare.
Yeah.
Like Chad is doing a great jobgenerating Otter content for me.
(14:34):
Yeah.
But, but I think I willeventually have to call a, call
a halt, uh, to that.
Yeah.
Alright, so here's, here's thebig thing that's happening, um,
in my world today, I, I don'trealize how close together
events happen because they're ondifferent months in my calendar.
So I didn't realize that at theend of this weekend, it's
(14:57):
September and like the firstweek of September, I have to
give a big, uh, presentation ata conference.
And I am subbing in for somebodythat, that, that should be doing
the presentation but can't rightnow.
So.
Um, everyone is comparing mewith that person and that person
always kills these things.
(15:17):
And there's a lot of, there's alot of things happening in my
brain that are less thandesirable at the moment, like,
figuring out that that was nextweek, yesterday was challenging.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm notready.
I can't do it.
I, I have to, hopefully I breakmy leg this weekend so I don't
have to go.
(15:38):
And then I'm like, will you stopthat?
You are perfectly capable ofbeing up on stage.
You've done it four or fivetimes in bigger settings with
bigger groups of people.
You are actually, uh, good atit.
Shut up brain and prepare likeyou should and then get there
and do it.
(15:58):
So shut up brain.
Yeah.
Is, is a lot of what's goingthrough my head today.
So that's, that's my catch upfor, for this week is that I
have to do this bigpresentation.
I'm half excited and halfterrified.
Um, the terrified part is, isactually a positive because I
will over prepare for it now,and that'll, that'll be good
(16:20):
when I get there.
Um, so that's what, that's whatI have going on.
That's my catch up corner.
Sarah (16:27):
Excellent.
Yeah.
Am I supposed to do a catch upcorner now?
Chris (16:32):
Yeah, it's your turn.
It's a, what happens when Idon't talk is that you talk,
that's how this podcasting thingworks.
Sarah (16:39):
Um.
My, um, my ketchup cornerinvolves, uh, not realizing, not
remembering like how much goesinto soccer high school soccer
season and being like surprisedby it.
Um, so that and business shit.
Um, so soccer high school,soccer's in full swing.
(17:04):
Um, I'm having some rough maparenting moments at, at the
moment.
Um, I had to call your mom anddad on the way home from the
game last night and I had a tearin my eye.
And, um, luckily your father andyour mom are amazing and they
made me laugh and the tear in myeye didn't actually drop, so
that's cool.
(17:25):
Oh, love.
Um, and I pulled out somestellar mom moves after I picked
up my kid who was not superhappy and understandably so.
Um.
Quick update on that.
He, he made the varsity team,just the varsity team.
So he is not dual rostered, heis just on the varsity team,
which was a huge win for him.
(17:45):
He was really excited about it.
'cause he is one of three thatisn't a senior, that's four
rostered on the varsity team.
Um, so that's really cool.
And his first game, he playedreally well.
We got a lot, lot of greatfeedback from parents and yada
yada, yada.
And I'm probably the mostcritical of my kid.
Like, I'm the first to be like,yeah buddy, you just, you know,
(18:07):
you don't have it.
But he did.
Like, I feel like he's finallyat a place where he's doing what
he needs to be doing and, uh,he's doing a great job.
And, um, since then, uh, yeah,to make the story quicker, um,
he played a minute and a half inthe game last night.
(18:29):
And, which is fine.
Um, regardless of what I think,um, you know, I'm not the coach
and the coach makes decisionsand that's fine.
And the, the kids that areplaying his position are good.
So I get, you know, I'm notarguing like, it's fine if, if
he's not earning a spot on thefield.
Okay.
But, um, at least do a rosterhim and, and let him get touches
(18:52):
on the ball in, in jv.
Like, I don't, like that's Yeah.
Kind of the thing that's, andthere's other, there's, there's
more stuff to it that I'm,
Chris (19:02):
yeah, yeah.
You gotta, you gotta edit alittle bit.
You gotta edit a little bit.
Yeah.
Um, so
Sarah (19:09):
I don't, I don't think Tracy's end, so he's not super
happy.
Chris (19:13):
Like, Olivia and I are still talking about, no, his
high school soccer.
I mean, but the, the, the mommoments that come out of that
like.
It's Liv and I spend a prettysignificant amount of time this
week talking about soccer, andshe's playing college soccer, so
I'm even more like hands off,right?
Like I'm, I'm a spectator allthe time, but she's still, she's
(19:37):
still, you know, she's gotthings going on.
She's, she's complaining.
Like same, same stuff, right?
But what, and what I, what Ireally tried to convey to her
this week, I, is that you're,you're not gonna be a
professional.
Like you're, you have two moreyears of this, two more years.
(19:59):
And when you're done the thingthat you're going to take away
from it, regardless of whetheryou start, whether you don't
start, whether you play twominutes, whether you really
enjoy everyone on the team and,and you're all kumbaya or, or
you're not, you're going to takeaway the lessons that others
don't get to learn.
Like, you get to take awaylessons that people learn when
(20:21):
they start working in jobs.
Like you have to get along, youhave to do what's right for the
bigger group.
You have to make decisions thatare like, you have to learn
these lessons.
You have the opportunity tolearn these lessons now and get
a jumpstart on, on these thingscompared to the other kids
around you.
Um, so, you know, just so youknow, it doesn't end right ever,
(20:44):
but I'm, yeah, I'm just alwaysso thankful that they have
sports to learn the lessons,right?
Like, imagine, like, this isalways what I go back to, that I
learned so much by playingsoccer and not because I was,
you know, not because I was afantastic athlete.
I just learned how to get alongwith a group of people that
(21:06):
didn't necessarily think of meas the, uh, as the center of
their universe.
So, I don't know.
I am, I'm trying to beencouraging and, and just
turning it into a story aboutmyself.
But
Sarah (21:23):
no, I, that's essentially, I mean, he got in
the car, I let him lose hisshit, right?
And told him rightfully so.
And I agree with everything thatyou're saying, but the thing is,
uh, you can't really control itall.
So we need to focus on what youcan control.
Are you gonna let it bring youdown?
Are you gonna let it take theprogress that you made and turn
it into shit?
Or are you gonna let it driveyou and make you better?
(21:46):
And that's your choice.
So I suggest you go with aladder, but it's not always that
easy.
It's hard to do, but you'reallowed to be mad for a little
bit.
And then we did, and then I wentinto coach mom, we got into the
garage and I said, okay, we'regonna take three deep breaths
and we're gonna leave it.
(22:07):
We're gonna let it go, and we'regonna focus on what you can do
going forward.
What I can do is your mom goingforward.
So this is where we are.
I love it.
He rolled his eyes.
I think he just watched me takethree breaths and um, and then
we got outta the car and he waslike, you know what else?
I don't fucking understand.
(22:28):
And I was like, okay.
So we didn't leave it.
Okay.
Well, fair enough.
We tried, we tried.
I mean, he doesn't have a, he'smissing this.
It's right.
He doesn't have a fully front
Chris (22:40):
developed frontal cortex yet.
You'll get there.
I get it.
Get I get it.
Sarah (22:44):
I get it.
Yeah.
Oh.
So, uh, anyway, yeah.
Um, and real, real quick, I justwanna talk about my business and
then Yes, please.
I think that's really all I'vegot to talk about.
Um, so I'm pivoting, I ampivoting in the business.
Um, yes, I launched my businessfairly quickly, which was on
purpose, uh, because I have atendency to, um, delay things
(23:08):
for perfection, and that'sreally just a procrastination
tactic.
So, um, based on all of the,the, the information I was
getting and research I wasdoing, you just need to go.
So I did it.
I launched, I launched wantingto focus on young adults because
I also got feedback on that,that that's a great idea and
(23:28):
that it's needed and blah, blah,blah.
Um, after doing a little bit ofmarketing and, and a little bit
of, um, analysis on what I'vebeen doing, um, turns out the
people who believe that theyoung adults need the coaching
and want the young adults to getthe coaching are the parents of
the young adults, not so muchthe young adults, which in
(23:49):
hindsight makes perfect sense.
Perfect.
'cause again, yeah.
They're just, they're just notaware of it yet.
And, um, so while I would still,while I still think that they
need the help, um, that's notreally a great, uh, business
model tactic to go for.
(24:10):
Um, anyway, so I am also notliking the socials these days.
Uh, so I enrolled in somemarketing training that does not
involve just, uh, your socialmedia platforms such as Facebook
and Instagram.
Um, so I'm going through thatand that's what I'm focusing on.
(24:31):
I'm writing a little blog on mypage now, weekly.
I also started publishing a, aweekly newsletter, uh, called
The Mindset Drop, which is, um,super quick, easy read and that
gives you three different toolseach week, um, or a little
mindset, re reset advice, uh, alittle tool you can use.
(24:56):
Um, and like I said, it's supereasy.
Read, get through it in probablytwo minutes, and it just gives
you some things to focus onthrough the week.
So, um, I'm focusing on theblog, the newsletter, and
finishing up this marketing, uh,training and figuring out where
I'm gonna go next.
I'm also learning that maybe I'malso learning that in the world
(25:19):
of, uh, life coaching, uh, whichI'm gonna be focusing on mindset
coaching mostly, um, in thisrealm of things, uh, the
business of coaching, there areactually a shit ton, maybe not a
shit ton, but a lot morecoaching mo models than, or, uh,
business models that I was awareof.
(25:40):
So, one on, no, I love it.
Coaching is not my only option,and it might, and it might not
be the, uh, the strongest forme.
So I'm evaluating how I want torun everything too.
So more, more information tocome, but it's all evolving, uh,
and I will be transparent.
(26:00):
I'm yet to make a dime.
Chris (26:04):
It's cool.
I'll get there.
I'll figure it out.
I gotta figure out where it'smean.
It's a journey.
It's a journey.
It's
Sarah (26:10):
right.
And one of the things, one ofthe lessons I listened to, I
really liked,'cause I alwaysfeel bad.
Like they're like, you know,what are you trying to get out
of this?
And I mean, I'll be honest, thefirst thing I'm gonna say is I,
I would like to make a dime.
Like I, I need to make a dime.
'cause that's, it's kind of adriver around things.
And just one dime.
(26:32):
The one lady I was listening,the one lady I was listening to
was like, let's, let's be realabout it.
We're in business.
Yes, we want to help people andthat's our purpose.
And you know, we, we do all thisvalues based digging into things
and that's great and that's whatdrives us.
But ultimately we start thesethings'cause we need to make
money.
(26:53):
And there's nothing wrong withsaying that out loud and making
the money makes it a lot easierto be able to fulfill your
purpose in the end.
And I was like, oh, oh yeah,that makes me feel less of a
dick.
So, okay.
Alright.
That, that was a very, that'sthat
Chris (27:12):
mind thing.
That's kind of the interestingpiece is that like, for, for a
hot minute you were like, Ishould just be altruistic.
And, and when get into this justfor the, the common good and
really, um, an important pieceof like having your mind lined
up is, is being able to say,nah, you know what, I, I wanna
(27:33):
do that.
That's an important driverbehind it.
But, you know, really I'd liketo, I'd like to make the money,
like to be able to, to supportmyself Yeah.
Doing this thing that I, that Ireally enjoy.
And that's why, that's why weget into business.
And I wonder Yeah.
Like, I always wonder like how,how hard that is for, uh, you
(27:54):
know, girls to admit women.
Like, I don't, I don't, yeah.
And that's funny
Sarah (28:01):
it, the training that I'm doing is women based, is women
in business based.
Um, and it's kind of the, uh,what I really like about, well,
there's a lot of values involvedin it that are aligned with my
beliefs and my systems and whatI feel.
Um, so that always helps.
(28:22):
Um, but what I like about it,like the one girl's like, yeah,
boss girl, boss babe.
I mean, I'm just running mylife.
Like I, I don't know.
I'm in business.
I'm in business.
Just like some bro would be abusiness like.
Chris (28:43):
Bo bro doesn't need to
Sarah (28:43):
be defined by, I'm a, I'm a
Chris (28:44):
boss bro.
Yeah, I'm a badass bras bro.
I've just doing bad ass bra.
Just doing, I wish I had abadass bra.
I just have the regular bras.
Um, sorry.
No, I, I mean I think that suchan interesting like that, that
that was the mindset shift, uh,like choosing, I, I, I choose,
(29:10):
uh, because it lines up with myvalues to, to say that in
reality what happens is I reallywanna make money in, in, in this
business because that's why Istarted a business.
And that's why like, right,there's, there's part of it
that, that makes me crazy.
That makes me crazy.
That, that would be, that, thatwould be a mind shift.
(29:31):
Um, anyway, sorry.
Like, like.
Sarah (29:35):
No, but it's true because you don't like, and you feel
that, like you feel bad sayingthat.
Like at least I do.
Like, I feel like why do, whatis your why?
Why do you wanna do this?
Well, I wanna make, I wanna, Iwanna make everybody's lives
better.
And truly, that's what I wannado.
I wanna impact lives.
I want people to have theexperiences that I've had that
(29:57):
have made my life better.
But I literally cannot do thatin the best manner possible
without making any money.
Chris (30:07):
Right.
And if you were starting alandscaping business, no one
would be like, Hey, what's yourwhy?
Oh, because I want people tohave, do you want green or grass
manicured lawns?
Yeah.
It just, yeah.
And there's, there's so much ofI don't deserve, or I'm not good
enough, or I'm not worthy of it.
I think you and I were talkingabout it a couple weeks ago
(30:30):
where, um, I was like, what, youknow what?
I could really use a mentor.
Like, the thing that would stopme from getting a mentor before
was that, oh, we'll get mentorsare for people who are gonna be
successful and you're just,you're just a mom who's trying
to like feed her, uh, children.
Like you're just a mom who'strying to contribute a little
bit to the household.
(30:50):
Like, no, like I am a fully, uh,uh, complete person who's
working in a career and if amentor would be helpful, why
wouldn't I deserve that?
Like, it's crazy.
Yeah.
Anyway, here's to, here's to allof us changing our, changing our
mindsets, but I do love thatyou're, that you are like, not
(31:15):
forcing something that doesn'tfeel right for your business
anymore.
Like that's also an importantthing to be like, yeah, I don't
need to do that.
Yeah.
I feel
Sarah (31:23):
like that's kind of where I was.
I think that's exactly, I thinkthat's spot on.
That terminology, just forcingsomething to make it happen.
Um, there's so much more to itand.
You know, I, I didn't go into itthinking it was all gonna happen
immediately.
Like, am I a bit disappointedthat I haven't made any money?
Sure.
Uh, but part of the process islearning where I fit and what's
(31:46):
gonna work well for me and whatI want to do.
Um, and I think a huge part ofthat is realizing that there are
things I have, there are changesthat need to be made, and that's
okay.
That's part of the process.
And like one of the ladies I waslistening to earlier this week,
she was like, I feel like, likewe definitely need a different
(32:07):
word for failure because we'renot, like, that's not what it
is.
We're like, they were talkingabout their failed offers as
coaches, you know, and the one,the one girl got her turn to
speak and she was like, well, Iwas writing them down and I've,
so far, I've come up with 35.
35 that I made zero zero.
And this woman pulls in millionsof dollars a year now, and she's
(32:29):
been in business for five years.
And she was like 34 0.
And like the first 15 of thosewere when I just started five
years ago.
Like it's, it's what happens,but it's literally not failure,
like every time.
And she, I kind of connectedwith her the most because she
said, you know, that firstoffer, like at the beginning it
(32:51):
was trying to just forcesomething to happen that wasn't
right.
Like she thought it might havebeen right.
But she learned that it wasn't,and that it's not failure.
So we keep, right, like we keep
Chris (33:03):
trying, like in, in, in my industry in particular,
getting to the point of failingfast is the way you make
long-term money.
Like your Yeah.
Your tiny little biotechs thatcan get to the point where they
know that that isn't gonna work.
Hey, this delivery mechanism forthis particular thing isn't
gonna work, so be done with itand go on to the next, like,
(33:26):
failing fast is a way to drivethings forward.
Like how many, and that's
Sarah (33:32):
a great,
Chris (33:33):
and the,
Sarah (33:35):
I just wanna say that's something great, like, that's
something that makes a lot ofsense.
Uh, which just literally yousaying that because one of the
things in my mind was, well,geez, I feel like I really
didn't even give it that much ofa chance.
But I feel like why are yougonna continue to give something
a chance where you've, yourecognize it's, this isn't the
(33:55):
way I should be going.
Like then change, it's, it'sokay.
Like if there's zero proof thatthis is gonna result in
anything, uh, this isn't, so Ineed to move on.
Chris (34:09):
And the, the other like side effect consequence of being
able to pivot and pivot quicklyis that sometimes you get
yourself in a situation whereyou have like an unintended, uh,
you have an unintended surprise.
So the way, uh, Pfizer makestheir money is mostly Viagra.
At, at some point they were,they came up with this Viagra,
(34:32):
this blockbuster medication.
Um.
But it was an accident.
Like that was a, like, that is aside effect of another
medication that they were tryingto, that they were trying to
market.
Like, they were like, oh no, um,bad this happening.
Some guy was taking his
Sarah (34:50):
heart attack medicine and ended up with a boner.
Chris (34:53):
Like a lot of'em, they're like, oh my God, this causes
bone.
And they were like,
Sarah (34:59):
oh no.
Chris (35:01):
Hmm.
Sarah (35:01):
Oh no.
What problem can I solve?
Chris (35:05):
Right.
Right.
I mean, it's, it's sointeresting that like the
evolution of that and the factthat like, you can write down 35
failures.
Of course you can.
You never did this before, soYeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Write down your 35 failures.
Figure the three that work andget after it.
Sarah (35:22):
Right.
And it's the, it's just, uh,there, there's, there's more to
it.
But the place I am right now isI did have, I did invest a
little bit of money to do whatI've done so far.
Um, and when I say a little, itwas comparatively speaking to
business investments, prettysmall.
But, um, but that's all I got.
(35:43):
So now I gotta, I don't have anyother choice.
I, I gotta figure out what I,what I can do with, with what I
have.
And, oh,
Chris (35:51):
and I'll give you another, what is not inspiration
to, to compare with, you know,gene therapies that make kids
here.
And, uh, boners, uh, MiltonHershey.
Milton Hershey started hisbusiness.
He didn't even know how to makefucking chocolate.
Like yeah, he didn't know how tomake chocolate.
Like he hired a sales guy tosell the chocolate before he
(36:13):
knew how to make chocolate.
And he didn't have, like, yeah,he built a town based on maybe
selling chocolate.
So yeah,
Sarah (36:25):
I mean, I love that.
I have, um, I have one morething.
It's not to this, I just haveone more thing I wanna bring up.
I, uh, was listening to a MarkManson thing this morning, and I
have a book.
I know that we haven't beenreading books, but I have a book
that I would like to check outand that I think that would be
perfect for you as well.
It's called The Burnout Societyby Bong.
(36:46):
Chohan.
Chris (36:47):
I don't know, I don't know what you're talking about,
Sarah (36:49):
right?
Chris (36:50):
I don't know what you're talking about,
Sarah (36:51):
but yeah.
I feel like it would be a goodread for, for us.
Oh, can you, um, all of thatsaid that's enough, Sarah.
Time.
I think we can move on.
Chris (37:02):
All right, cool.
Text me the name of the book'cause I really do wanna get
back into doing, doing some,some reading on the podcast.
Um, I can talk about my A DDH,adhd.
I purchased a bunch of booksrecently too.
I'm, I, I can talk about thatall day, but we should probably
talk about stuff that otherpeople wanna talk about too.
Alright.
What are we doing next?
Okay.
Oh, the gastro story of theweek.
(37:23):
Um, alright, I'll, I'll start usoff.
Oh, shoot.
Um, and then you can add color.
So when I was Okay, probably 11,10.
So you were kindergarten ish?
Um, I got, I got real into, uh,studio wrestling mostly.
'cause one of my friends, uh,Regina b uh, was into it.
(37:49):
And she was the coolest personthat I knew.
And if she said that, it wascool, then it was cool.
And then I went to junior highand there were a bunch of boys
that also liked, uh, uh, studiowrestling.
So then I, then I, then Idefinitely, uh, found a place.
I was like, other people like totalk about this too, and bonus,
they're boys who are cute andsometimes smell good, so.
(38:12):
I'm all in.
Um, I mean, that's what Ithought of.
They definitely didn't
Sarah (38:17):
smell good.
It was too
Chris (38:18):
high.
So sometimes they did, sometimesand they smell like your car.
They were wearing, they werewearing like a whole lot of
polo, like a whole lot.
And I don't know if you rememberthe smell of that, but like a
moth to a flame.
Yeah, I was like
Sarah (38:32):
the polo mixed with the, um, the, the Benetton perfume
colors of Benetton.
Is that what was Oh my god, yes.
The name of the perfume.
Do you remember the, like thosetwo mixed together?
Chris (38:45):
A junior high dance.
It makes my
Sarah (38:46):
stomach turn now.
Chris (38:48):
Junior high dance.
Like, but at the time I waslike, I would like to continue
smelling you, uh, smelldelicious.
Um, right sniff, sniff.
Not weird at all.
Um, so, you know, on Saturdaysin the afternoons after the
cartoons rover, um, it wouldthen flip over to, uh,
(39:09):
wrestling.
You could watch WWF.
Um, and it was Hulk Hogan.
It was the Iron Sheik.
It was Jimmy Superfly ska whowould jump off the top rope off
the Turnbuckle.
He would stand up there and hewould super fly you.
And we were doing that shit intothe pool in the summer and Yep.
Yeah.
Then for some reason, I'm sureit's because I was interested in
(39:31):
it, it exploded.
So then you had like tag teams,like the British Bulldogs and
Brett, the Hitman Heart and Jimthe Anvil, Nightheart, and, um,
your dad's favorite one, George,the Animal Seal, who would eat
the Turnbuckle Yes.
And the green tongue, like theyfed him candy before and he
would have like a green tongueand he would just walk around
(39:52):
and, and I, there was always agood guy and a bad guy and that
was very appealing to my senseof, uh, attention deficit order
justice.
So.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, it was, it was all, itwas all just perfect.
Just perfect.
Sarah (40:09):
Um.
And you are correct.
Do you watch, um, beyond theRing or the dark side of the
ring?
N
Chris (40:16):
no.
Sarah (40:16):
These are things that you should start watching if you
don't.
I think one of them is on a ande and Noah watches them all the
time and they are ridiculouslyinteresting.
Actually.
The one on, um, uh, what doesnuts, uh, the Kilt wearing Roddy
Piper.
Chris (40:32):
Oh.
He turned into an actor like hewas in movies.
Rowdy Roddy Piper.
I came here to kick ass withchew bubblegum and I'm all out
of bubblegum
Sarah (40:41):
and I'm outta bubblegum.
Mm-hmm.
He, um, that I highly suggest, Idon't know if that's a dark side
of the ring outside the darkside of the ring, I think it's
called.
I'll have,
Chris (40:49):
I loved
Sarah (40:49):
him.
I highly, that was my favorite.
There was a, there's a lot ofthem and they're all really
good, but his was, was myfavorite.
He was one that was really,really good at separating his
personal life and like, theyinterview his wife and his kids
and it's really, um.
Yeah.
It, it was just, it was reallygood.
Like, oh good.
(41:10):
Oh good.
They just, they, they seemedlike a, a good family and
whatnot.
But I mean, a lot of it's fuckedup.
Like the shit you didn't see inthat world, the shit you don't
see in that world is fucked.
Chris (41:22):
I mean, I was into it to the point, and I don't know if
you remember this, but I did aterm paper on it in my gifted
program.
Like we had to do a researchproject.
I mean, yeah.
And my research project was theimpact of studio wrestling, the
history and impact of studiowrestling on modern society.
(41:43):
So I was researching.
And you didn't even have the
Sarah (41:45):
internets back then?
Chris (41:47):
No.
Sarah (41:48):
Was there a lot of information in the public
library?
Chris (41:52):
Well, I had to go to the library in junior high, and I
have a vague memory of ourlibrarian in junior high.
And she had, uh, she had crosseyes.
Yeah, if I like, I don't knowwhy.
Mm-hmm.
And that might be just a dream.
But I remember it was very hardto, I feel like
Sarah (42:07):
that makes sense.
I feel like I remember that
Chris (42:10):
if, if she was talking to me or not, but she was always
very helpful.
And you know, she's justinundated with the, with the
gifted kids who all have, youknow, anxiety and wanna do this
really well, even though it'sjust for our, you know,
essentially our study hall thatwe all have together.
Um, but we would all bring our,our, our topics and she's like,
(42:31):
okay, what's your theory?
And I was like, my what?
No, I just wanna learn about it.
She's like, no, no, you have tohave a theory.
Like essentially the librariantaught us, um.
Yeah, what we, what we weredoing.
Um, but I was like, here's,here's mine.
She was like, okay, well look upMcCarthyism and look up like
1920s, look up 1930s, like dothis.
(42:51):
And I was like, oh, I get tolearn all about history and
Bruno San Martino.
Right, right.
And then I, you know, you, youpull up articles, something like
12, like deep into the research,deep into the research.
Um, at the same time, I'm alsowatching it every Saturday and
I'm, I'm collecting, I don'tknow if you, um, ever did this,
(43:14):
but at the Giant Eagle, uh,where we would go grocery
shopping, right there at thebottom of Wiggles Hill, um
mm-hmm.
They would, uh, there was amagazine, the pay section,
Sarah (43:23):
the days,
Chris (43:24):
the paydays, oh my God, I forgot it was called payday.
Sarah (43:28):
Do you remember
Chris (43:28):
the magazine section?
Gee,
Sarah (43:31):
do you remember my obsession with new kids on the
block?
Do I remember the fuckingmagazine section?
Are you kidding me, Sarah?
You can't get 17 magazinestoday.
We need to go get generic potatochips.
Chris (43:46):
We need, we need the black and white bulk purchase
peanuts right now.
We have to go,
Sarah (43:52):
yeah, Christine
Chris (43:53):
put this.
There's no more Tiger Beat foryou books down.
I was like, well, if she, if shegets that, can I have two
Stephen King books and a WWFmagazine, so I can cut out the
poster of Paul Hogan and put iton my wall?
Like in WrestleMania.
Also, the, the evolution ofpay-per-view, like WrestleMania,
(44:15):
I think was in Detroit,Michigan, WrestleMania one I'm
talking about.
Was in Detroit, Michigan at theSilver Dome maybe.
Does that sound right?
Silver Dome.
Anyway, it, it held a lot ofpeople and there were a lot of
people gonna be there and Reginab and I kept lobbying to go,
like, we thought that our dadswere gonna be able to take us to
(44:37):
Michigan to sit in a footballstadium.
Can you see that?
To sit in a football stadium.
Oh my God.
I can only imagine Token.
Our two fathers.
Oh my God.
No, they've been singing in theparking lot.
I'm sorry,
Sarah (44:51):
I'm gonna have to correct you though.
It might have been a differentone because WrestleMania won
was, uh, at Madison SquareGarden.
Chris (45:01):
It, it makes sense.
It makes sense.
Like my, yeah, it might havebeen like WrestleMania two or
WrestleMania three that was in,that was in cardiac Michigan.
Look it up.
Look it up while I tell thestory.
I'm look
Sarah (45:13):
them all up right now.
I'm gonna look up all thelocations.
Okay, go ahead.
Chris (45:16):
But I think this is how we ended up going to our first
live WWF event, uh, at the civicarena in Pittsburgh.
Because that was like thecompromise.
Like no way the jumbo was gonnaput us in the car and drive us
to Michigan or whereverWrestleMania was.
Oh fuck.
Like, no way.
Come on now.
Sarah (45:37):
No, we,
Chris (45:38):
we didn't have money to go roller skating at the same
time, so there's no way.
But we did scrape enough moneytogether that the family, like
four tickets to, uh,WrestleMania three.
I
Sarah (45:50):
can wait.
WrestleMania three was inPontiac Silver Dome in Pontiac,
Michigan.
I knew it.
Is that the one that you werethinking of?
Yes.
That's the one.
That's 1980.
That was 1987.
Chris (46:01):
Yeah.
14.
Yeah.
That makes perfect sense.
13.
Sarah (46:06):
Mm-hmm.
Chris (46:06):
I think probably'cause it was in the winter maybe.
I don't know.
Um, but does it say who themarch, March 29th.
Still cold.
Um, so I hadn't turned 14 yet.
I was 13.
Um, does it say who the headlinematch was?
Was it Hulk Hogan versussomething else?
And I can't remember.
(46:26):
Hogan was a good guy or a badguy.
Sarah (46:31):
Well, I could see the picture of it.
Let me make sure I'm gonna, canyou guess, can you guess Hulk
Hogan against I can't guess.
I
Chris (46:39):
can't, I can't remember.
Um, uh, Mr.
T, but I think I'm mixing Upingmovies.
Princess, the Andre, the
Sarah (46:48):
Giants, the main feud stemmed from Andre the Giants
heel turn and betrayal of hisfriend, the WWF World
Heavyweight Champion, HulkHogan.
I don't, which began on anepisode of Piper's Pit when WWF
(47:08):
President Jack Toy Toy, yeah.
Presented Hogan with a trophyfor being the WW F World
heavyweight champion.
For three years, Andre Hogan'sgood friend, came out to con
congratulate him, butCryptically remarked three years
to be a champion.
It's a long time.
A week later on an episode ofPiper's Pit 20 Percented, Andre,
(47:30):
with a visibly smaller trophyfor being undefeated in the WWF.
For 15 years, Hogan came out tocongratulate Andre, but before
the Giant could speak, Hoganended up being the focal point
of the interview.
Annoyed by this, Andre stormedout during Hogan's
congratulations speech.
(47:51):
There's more to it.
You get the, my God, a lot of ithappened on Piper's pit, though.
Chris (47:56):
Oh, I like so many memories.
I don't know why we haven'ttalked about this before, but it
is so fundamental to, maybe thisis, we should
Sarah (48:04):
switch, uh, we should switch our podcast from mental
health to talking about ww fwrestling
Chris (48:11):
and not like modern times.
Just, just, just going over Ohyeah.
No episode of Piper's Pit.
Sarah (48:19):
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're just talking about likelate eighties.
Right?
Chris (48:24):
Right.
That's it, that's all.
Maybe that's all I want.
Just 1980s.
Sarah (48:27):
Yeah.
Chris (48:27):
That's all I want.
Sarah (48:28):
Yeah.
Chris (48:28):
Is is just that, just that very specific era.
Um, so, uh, we weren't going tothat like, no, we're not going,
we're not going to that.
In fact, I think on the samenight, either WrestleMania one
or this WrestleMania, we had abirthday party at, at, uh,
showbiz Pizza for somebody atSt.
Michael's
Sarah (48:49):
Showbiz.
Chris (48:51):
Right.
So just to put everyone in theright head space, I'm playing
Cubert, me and Marty, uh, Marty,uh, Marty, who had a band, you
know, you know the Marty I'mspeaking of, um, left on board.
Marty F.
Marty F Yes.
Uh, uh, I'm, I'm playing Cubert.
Me and Marty f are playingCubert at the same time.
(49:11):
WrestleMania is happening justto, you know, kind of.
Set the scene.
Uh, so we we're not going tothat, but Jumbo will take us to
the civic arena.
Like me, you, our family offour, uh, Gina B's, uh, family
of three.
We're all going, we're allgoing.
We get all hyped up.
Like there's outfits and there'sa, a ton of hairspray applied to
(49:33):
my hair.
Hair.
There might have even beenactual shaving of the sides.
Like it was a big deal.
Big deal.
Sarah (49:41):
You've never shaved the side of your head.
Shuffle on top.
Yes, I did.
Chris (49:44):
Yes I did.
Just a teeny like No, you didn'tthis much.
Yes I did.
Yes I did.
Right here.
Right here.
I remember.
No, that's a
Sarah (49:50):
mullet.
You're confusing yourself.
That was when you got yourhaircut into a mullet.
Quit trying to, uh, to frame itas though you were getting a
cool shaved side head.
Think, no, I You got yourhaircut into the style of a
mullet.
Shut up, Sarah.
(50:11):
Just keeping it real.
Fine,
Chris (50:13):
fine, fine.
Maybe I had a mullet.
Maybe I did.
Maybe I did.
But I feel like 13.
I was definitely doing somethingwith a perm.
Like there was definitely a permhappening.
Permed, mullet.
Fair.
Sarah (50:26):
Fuck.
Yeah.
Serious.
I mean,'cause that's what it is.
The mullet.
You're just cutting this realshort.
Chris (50:31):
Right?
So like, just right above myear, just like a, a centimeter.
You say centimeter.
And then I was able to slickthat back and everything else
would puff around.
Not in a, not in a cool chipway.
Yeah.
That's terrible.
But more of like a LauraBrannigan, uh, kind of way.
Sarah (50:48):
Anyway, this episode is just making my stomach turn over
and over and over again.
Chris (50:54):
Well, I think on the way back from, this is where we
stopped at the Denny's.
In West Mifflin.
Like we, we made it a night,right?
Like, and we stopped at theDenny's in West Mifflin, and you
had a elementary school meltdownbecause the people, uh, would
not cut your, uh, kitty catbreakfast into the right shapes.
(51:20):
It did not, it did not look likea kitty cat.
And you were
Sarah (51:24):
pissed.
Mm-hmm.
No.
Pissed 100 fucking percent.
When you put something on themenu and you advertise it as a
kitty cat, and there's a pictureof it that looks like a fucking
kitty cat, and the toasts arethe little ears, and the bacon
is the whiskers.
You put that shit on the platelooking like a fucking kitty
cat.
I am 47 years old and I stillstand behind this meltdown'cause
(51:47):
that's fucking ridiculous.
You were like not
Chris (51:51):
eating this.
I
Sarah (51:53):
mean, you, it doesn't look like a fucking cat.
And your par, your parents were,I mean, let's be real.
I wasn't eating any of that shitanyway.
I might've taken a bite of thetoast in the bacon maybe, but I
wasn't eating any of that shiton my plate.
Pancakes.
It's not even meatloaf.
Nope.
I just curious.
I just wanted to see the fuckingcat
Chris (52:13):
at 11 o'clock on a Friday at the Denny's.
You were like, can I speak tothis chef?
Sarah (52:17):
Please?
Chris (52:19):
Can the chef come out and explain his logic for the
plating here?
Because it is wrong.
It is what we like to call.
Sarah (52:27):
And then he sat hilarious in my eggs.
Chris (52:29):
Right, right.
It's a good thing you didn't eatit, even if it came, when it
came back out, because your momwas like, excuse
Sarah (52:35):
me.
Yeah.
Chris (52:36):
Your me little mother who wouldn't even order pizza
mm-hmm.
Was like, excuse me.
Um, I don't wanna be a pain.
Excuse me.
Pardon me.
I'm just a
Sarah (52:46):
bird.
My huge pain.
Chris (52:47):
She's, she, I don't know if you can see there are tears
happening and why we can't haveit.
We can't have it.
She's almost 10, but we can'thave it.
She's eight.
We're not gonna be able to, theride home will be intolerable.
So if you could just make thatlook like a cat off you go.
Sarah (53:07):
Mm-hmm.
Chris (53:08):
Compliments otherwise to the chef.
So
Sarah (53:11):
yeah,
Chris (53:12):
that, that is my gastro story of the week.
My never ending love of, ofstudio wrestling and the British
Bulldogs, because that was myteam like, and um, Gina and I
divided the British Bulldogs andlike one was slightly more good
looking, so she took theslightly, uh, more good looking
bulldog and I had, I was like,oh, well he's got, he's got
(53:33):
excellent personality, soobviously he's
Sarah (53:36):
nuts.
Chris (53:37):
Uh, that one's mine.
Yeah.
Sarah (53:40):
Huh.
Yeah, I mean, I bet that oneread books and shit.
Chris (53:43):
Sure he did.
Sure he did.
Sarah (53:44):
He has a country estate personality.
It's exactly what Davy Boy Smithand Dynamite Kid.
Chris (53:52):
Uh, Davy Boy Smith, I think is the one that, uh, uh,
that Gina got.
I got the Dynamite Kids.
That makes sense.
Sarah (54:00):
Um, divided them, you know,
Chris (54:01):
I'm looking at them right now and I don't, I'm not sure
either.
Like, I don't really see a lotof the, either of them is, is
really good looking.
Um, Gina's never ending lovethough was, um, Brett the Hitman
heart, but I wasn't gonna takeGeorge.
Like I had standards.
Like I'm not gonna, like theAnvil is not gonna be my guy.
I, I don't care.
He's, he was also old enough tobe my Papp at that point, I
(54:23):
think.
Yeah.
He was like a holdover from the1930s.
He wrestled with Bruno andMartinez.
Sarah (54:31):
Um, yeah.
Also if, and that's VinceMcMahon who makes my stomach
turn.
Like that's another turning.
Yeah,
Chris (54:37):
we're not, I thought we were only talking about happy
stuff.
Also, um, if you guys, sorry,
Sarah (54:42):
sorry.
Chris (54:42):
Into studio wrestling.
Um, and you can correct anythingthat I've said here, uh, you
know, beyond my fact checker.
Uh, feel free to, uh, drop us aline at, uh, gastro
girls@gmail.com.
There we go.
There's the plug for the email.
Hi, can I
Sarah (54:58):
share,
Chris (55:01):
send it to me.
I'll, I wanna share screen.
Put it on screen.
How do you do that?
Oh, it's share.
It's right next to the phonebutton.
Don't hit the phone button.
That's for later.
Yeah.
Sarah (55:12):
Um, hold on.
Let me know when you can see it.
Oh my god, I can see it.
Okay.
So look, this is my favoritepart.
Hold on.
Uh, where'd it go?
Where'd it go?
Here we go.
What is that?
Oh, no.
What.
What, what is that?
(55:34):
What?
No.
Why is that?
The picture that's there,
Chris (55:39):
is he the only one someone had?
This must be his mom.
She's like, this is my favoritepicture.
Does he have breaks?
Sarah (55:48):
So, sorry, everybody.
If you're, if you're, what if,if you're not on the YouTubes,
you're gonna have to, wow.
You guys gotta get to the Idon't YouTubes.
Holy, holy moly.
Chris (56:03):
Yes.
Yeah, that was, I think thatwas, and mine was the other one.
Oh no.
Oh, honestly, uh, it's allright.
I know, I know it's an audiomedium, but check out.
Sarah (56:21):
Okay.
My whole weekend.
I do have bad news for youthough.
Chris (56:24):
What?
You have to go.
Sarah (56:25):
I know.
Okay.
Well we're, we've been recordingfor 56 minutes and, um,
Chris (56:31):
alright.
Uh, real, real quick.
A DHD update and then, and thenwe'll wrap up.
Um, okay.
So I made an appointment to seea new psychiatrist and I was
surprised because this one wouldtake online appointments and I
was like, that is so much moreconvenient for me.
Right.
Um, that seems great.
Love it.
(56:52):
Uh, but then I, I go to theappointment, I get all excited
about the appointment and I'mlike, oh yes, fantastic.
Um, this is gonna work outgreat.
I get on there and she's like,hi, what are we seeing you for
today?
And I'm like, oh no.
Oh no.
She doesn't know.
She doesn't know.
So I go over the whole, youknow, diagnosis of the A DHD and
how like the Vyvanse is thething that keeps me, uh, alive.
(57:16):
And uh, she's like, oh, well wedon't, uh, we don't manage the
schedule, uh, whatever.
We don't manage the controlledsubstances.
And I was like, again, I feellike a drug addict.
Sorry.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah.
Well I think we can probablyjust end the call'cause there's
no point in me telling you, uh,everything that's happening with
me for you to just give me likesome.
(57:39):
Worksheets to do, because thatwill, that will not be, that
will not be enough.
Um, and she was like, oh, I'mvery sorry.
Um, do you wanna talk aboutanything else?
And I was like, Nope, notreally.
And then I feel like even moreof a dry Yeah.
I'd like to talk about how
Sarah (57:52):
fucking annoyed I am.
Chris (57:55):
Right?
Like, I could have made anappointment for, uh, this time
because again, you gotta waitfor the appointment, right?
It's not like they have like,the next day Anyway, so I was
just so irritated by that.
Um, so I started looking up, uh,resources for Attention Deficit
Disorder online.
Like, you know, whatever I coulduse to kind of get me through,
(58:16):
in addition to having Chadmanage my schedule and what
I've, what I've really, reallyenjoyed the past couple weeks is
recording my meetings and havingan ai, uh, summarize them.
It's been a,
Sarah (58:29):
yeah.
Chris (58:31):
Godsend.
As long as everyone agrees to merecording it, then I am, then I,
I can do that and I can have thesummary there and I can put in
action items and I can put themwhere they, where they need to
be.
It's been really helpful andthat's, that's what I got.
I am, I am, I have made anotherappointment at an actual
in-person place, but again, Ican't do that either I'm out of
(58:54):
town or they're not availableuntil the middle of October, so
that is six weeks away.
So then, um, yeah, I will justdo the best that I can.
So if I'm a
Sarah (59:06):
firm believer of medication, I love the
medication and, um, copingstrategies as well.
Right.
So, um.
In 2025, the amount ofinformation that you can find
for coping with a DH adhd Yes.
Simply via the interwebs is,it's pretty amazing.
(59:28):
Amazing.
Chris (59:29):
My, my girl Mel Robbins has a, has a podcast and I was
ready to hate it.
Like she's got like three orfour episodes just on a DHD
'cause she, uh, herself, uh,suffers from a DH ADHD and takes
the medicine for it.
And like I was ready to be, asdoes Mark
Sarah (59:47):
Manson.
Well, I don't, mark, go ahead.
Sorry.
I was ready
Chris (59:50):
to be angry with her because, you know, my, in
general, I mm-hmm.
Like her, it's something abouther tone, but she does have
really, really good advice andreally good resources.
So I was kind of using
Sarah (01:00:01):
those and yeah, I mean.
She hasn't gotten to the pointwhere she is like being an
asshole.
Like, I mean, or being terribleat what she does.
Like she obviously deserves towhere she to be, where she is.
Um, but yes, mark Manson has theA DHD.
I don't believe that he takesmedication anymore.
He did try medication at onepoint, but it made him, um, not
(01:00:25):
himself and he didn't like it.
So, um.
He's, if you can find any, markManson, a DHD resources.
I mean, I highly suggest
Chris (01:00:35):
there's a, there's a couple of books that's just me
and a couple of like,strategies.
And I do love the idea ofleveraging AI to kind of keep me
on task.
Like, like give me, yeah, giveme, um, give me just a couple of
things to focus on.
And that is something that, thatthe AI is good at.
He's like, here's the thingsthat have to get done today.
(01:00:56):
Cool.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Sarah (01:00:58):
Thank you.
And speaking of things that haveto get done today, did you drop
my romper off at Mommy andDaddy's?
I did.
I did yesterday
Chris (01:01:07):
and it's so cute.
You're gonna love it.
Sarah (01:01:09):
I'm so excited.
You're gonna love it.
Let's get my romper.
Chris (01:01:12):
Alright, so that is my, that is my, uh, mental health,
uh, portion of it is that Icontinue.
Um, I continue to struggle withthe way that we approach, uh,
how these, uh, how these thingsare managed and availability and
if we could just get more, uh,psychiatrists or nurse
(01:01:34):
practitioners or people, if wecould just look at these things
in maybe a slightly differentway, uh, that would be so
helpful.
I have no idea how to affectthat change, but I think talking
about it's probably the firstplace.
So here, I'm,
Sarah (01:01:50):
that's it.
And I would like to use this asa place where I can say, you now
know this, even though it's nothow we want it to be, you know
that this is how it is.
Yes.
So now you need to take this asa little nudge that you need to
(01:02:12):
move your focus on planning,getting your medication.
Right.
A little bit higher on your listto make sure that you don't get
yourself into these positionsagain, this is where we learn
and, uh, adjust, adapt.
Yep.
Chris (01:02:28):
Yeah.
Uh, Olivia and I had that sameconversation'cause she, um, she
also takes the same medicationhowever she is in North Carolina
and, uh, you can't send aprescription to North Carolina.
So her prescriber is N pa.
I have to pick up herprescription in Pennsylvania and
then I have to FedEx it to her.
So I had to overnight it, uh,because you also can't get it
(01:02:52):
early and.
Yeah, just because it is a, um,controlled substance, which
stinks.
So she and I have to do a lot ofplanning and coordination.
She and I have to do a lot ofcoordination.
And that's the lesson, is thatYeah, I got it.
I have a reminder to get itexactly 30 days.
(01:03:14):
And then she has got a reminderthat whenever she shakes it and
it feels later, that she's gottatell me right away, like, I'm,
I'm running out so that I can dothe things that have to happen.
So yes, we're learning a lot.
You have
Sarah (01:03:29):
to wait for her to shake it and determine or can, you
can't, no.
Can't you just like, that's thefail.
Do it
Chris (01:03:33):
like that's the backup.
Like, because we are the waythat we are, we need, we need
two plans at least.
So the first plan is I look atthat reminder, I order the
medication.
If that didn't happen, sheshakes it and she's like, shit,
there's only four in here.
'cause that's when it soundsdifferent.
And she sends me a text andsays, Hey, did you order it?
(01:03:54):
And I'm like, yes I did.
It'll be there Thursday.
Hopefully.
That's the way it goes.
Great.
Hitting the button.
Sarah (01:04:01):
Yeah, I did.
Yeah.
The fuck, I'm five minutes away.
I'm not still at home, Ipromise.
I love you and
Chris (01:04:12):
And still we rise still.
We rise.
Sarah (01:04:17):
Yes.
I'm sorry that I have to go.
I'm sorry that I have to cut usshort.
I'm sorry that I took a moretime than I expected at the
beginning talking about mybusiness.
Chris (01:04:26):
No, no, I love it.
I have to pee real bad anyway,so I'm kind of excited.
Sarah (01:04:30):
Okay.
Alright.
Alright, awesome.
Well enjoy the rest of yourweekend at the cabin and I can't
wait to hear about it.
I'm sure it will be wonderful.
Oh my God.
The way.
So you've been like really fuzzythis whole time and the way you
were just leaning.
I thought you fell off yourstool.
I did not.
I did not.
I kind of wish you had because Ifeel like that would've been
(01:04:51):
really funny.
I mean, I don't you to hurtyourself or anything, but
anyway.
Alright, love you.
Alright, love you.
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