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October 2, 2025 • 58 mins

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Christine and Sarah (Joined by Becca) return with another engaging episode of 'The Mental Funny Bone,' blending humor and serious discussions on mental health and current events. The conversation takes a passionate and political turn, addressing violence in society before tackling September 11th memories and its impact on their lives and security awareness. They weave humorous anecdotes about their experiences at restaurants and conferences, including a surprising absence of fried mushrooms. As they discuss their upcoming meditation retreat, they share laughs over anticipated discomforts, reinforcing the blend of humor and mindfulness. They wrap up by sharing their love for books from a recent Barnes and Noble outing, setting the stage for their next read, 'The Burnout Society.' Through personal stories and playful banter, the girls remind listeners of the importance of connection and laughter in facing life's challenges.

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Chris (00:02):
Hello and welcome to The Mental Funny Bone.
This is a podcast where we talkabout, uh, mental health and
comedy.
And if I met you last week atSCDM.
Oh no, it was a differentconference.
If I met you last week at theViva Summit, welcome, and I hope
you laugh at this as much as youdid my presentation that was

(00:23):
supposed to be serious.
Um, in this podcast we talkabout mental health related
issues, and a lot of the time mysister and I talk about, uh,
stuff that happened to us whilewe're growing up.
And, uh, we are joined as alwaysin spirit and in heart and faith
by our friend Becca, the intern.
So that's the, that's thelineup.

(00:45):
I'm Christine, I'm Sarah.
Becca, you speak now.
Becca.
Becca, you're allowed to talknow.
Remember?
I, I

Becca (00:54):
keep

Chris (00:54):
forgetting it.
And I'm Becca.

Sarah (00:56):
Good job.
There we go.
Good job.
There we go.
Good job.
Good job.
So

Chris (01:00):
that's has introduced.

Sarah (01:02):
I'm busting in.
I'm busting in.
I am saying, I'm gonna say onething and then we're gonna let
it go.
And then we're gonna talk aboutwhatever Christine tells us to
talk about.
Awesome.
Okay.
I'm gonna get political for onesecond.
It's not okay to fucking killpeople.
It's really not okay to killpeople.
I have already said I was nevera fan of Charlie Kirk, but he's

(01:24):
a human being.
He dad, a husband, and it's notokay to fucking kill people.
It's also not okay to just blameone person or one side of the
thing.
And it's not just a a rightproblem, it's not just a left
problem.
We've all turned into fuckingterrible people, and all of
these things should becondemned.
Regardless of what yourpolitical beliefs are, you

(01:45):
should not have to worry aboutgetting shot in a crowd nor when
you go to fucking school, norwhen you're in the crowd
watching somebody, nor never, itshouldn't happen.
This shouldn't, this is not okayon any fucking side.
Stop fucking killing each other.
And when somebody kills thesomeone kills somebody, let's
not just talk about the one sideof things.

(02:06):
Uh, let's all come together andstop fucking killing fucking
people.
Okay?
Especially our fucking kids.
Let's give'em a chance.
Fuck sake.
Okay, moving on.
Okay.
I feel better now.

Chris (02:22):
I'm glad.
Welcome to our mental healthpodcast about being better
people.
First we, it's like, it's likeArmy Bootcamp.
First we bring you down and thenwe build you back up.
Mm-hmm.
So September is suicideawareness month.
I don't know if you guys needthat.
It's also September

Sarah (02:36):
11th.

Chris (02:37):
Oh my goodness.
What?
What an epic day in history.
So let's try this on Becca.
What were you doing on September11th?
Were you on your way to work?

Becca (02:51):
Were you born?
Have a proper answer.
No, I was not.
I didn't think so.
I was a part of the nine 11 babyboom, though.
That's an interesting you go.
Interesting thing that I, I'm

Chris (03:00):
gonna throw up.

Becca (03:01):
Found out about?
Yeah.

Sarah (03:05):
Oh, wow.

Chris (03:07):
Gross.
Those are my friends you'retalking about.
Ew.
Take, take

Sarah (03:10):
that and stick it in your fucking pocket.

Chris (03:14):
Look at my cat.
Look at my cat.
I mean, did

Sarah (03:15):
you?

Chris (03:16):
Hey.

Sarah (03:17):
I didn't get any coffee.
I, my morning is fucked.

Becca (03:21):
It's all right.
Hey, that's okay.
That's okay.
It's Thursday.
It's Thursday.
We're so close.
We're so close.

Chris (03:27):
Mm-hmm.
Nearly there kids.
Nearly there.
So, um, Becca wasn't born onnine 11 and I'm kind of curious,
like, Becca, when you hear ustalk about where we were and
like how profoundly thischanged, not just our lives
'cause it changed the shit outtamy life.
A lot, but it changed the way weget on planes, the way we

(03:51):
interact with other people.
We were nice to each other forfour months straight.
We were united behind a veryspecific issue.
If only on the surface we couldall agree on one thing.
We did not like it when peoplecame to where we live and
started killing us.

(04:12):
We were not big fans of that atall.
Toby Keith wrote a bunch ofsongs like Alan Jackson wrote a
song.
Every time I hear it, I cry.
Like we, we wore little Americanflag pins regardless of our
political party.
It was, I, Sarah learned whatsniping was.
It was a whole, it was a wholething.

(04:34):
It was a whole thing.
So like for us, it was like afundamental part of our
development, but.
What do you think about when,when we're like, oh, we should
have like a moment of silent ornine 11, are you like, well,
that is a lot of focus on onesingle event.

Becca (04:51):
I mean, I understand it though.
I had to review footage thisyear when I was in school.
We were told to go look fordifferent news footage and I got
onto, sorry, hurricane, like Ithink it was Hurricane Katrina.
That was 2005, 2006, seven.
Yeah, around that area.
I wanna

Sarah (05:10):
say 2005.
'cause I think it was just 20years, right?
I think

Chris (05:13):
so.
2005.
'cause I had just had a baby andI was watching it horrified on
my couch.

Becca (05:19):
Yeah.
Because Max is,'cause Max wasborn in 2005.
My brother for anybody.
Um, but I remember watching thatfootage and then it just slowly
turned into like, Columbinefootage.
I got into nine 11 footage.
That was crazy.
I got into nine 11 footage atthe end of class and I was like,
I don't even know what I woulddo with myself.
I don't even know, like, what amI supposed to do when I, if

(05:43):
that's happening in the world,where am I supposed to go?
I, ooh, it's, it, it, it made mesick to my stomach for sure, and
I absolutely understand, youknow, honoring nine 11 and
everything like that.
But it's scary.
If you're our friend Jeanie,

Chris (05:57):
you go to the Beantown Pub and stay there for eight
hours drinking the entire time.
Yeah.

Sarah (06:02):
Yeah.
It was a

Chris (06:03):
strategy.
Sarah, where were you?
Were you in school?
Well, you were here, you were inpa, right?

Sarah (06:09):
Yeah, I was, uh, I was, I was getting ready for work.
Daddy had just retired or likenot too long.
So he was at home and mommy wasat the bookstore and I was
getting ready for school.
And even 24 years later, I dothe same shit in the morning.
And I was watching Good MorningAmerica as I was getting ready.
So yeah, the first plane hit andthey broke in on Good Morning

(06:29):
America about it.
And then we all watched thesecond plane hit and like

Chris (06:33):
when, when did, I can remember running

Sarah (06:35):
out from my room, like as I was getting ready and daddy
was out in the living room.
You could audibly hear both ofus like react.
And I ran out and I was like,what in the fuck is happening?
And he was like, this is, thisis, this was not an accident
anymore.
It was not an accident anymore.
Like, and then I drove to work,I think I started work at like

(06:55):
10 ish.
So I think that was rightaround, I think I walked in and
they had it on the TV in thebookstore.
And that was just when the firsttower fell.
Like around 10 ish and rightbefore the Somerset plane or
right after the Somerset plane.
But I remember being in the carlistening to it on the radio,
and I forget what newscaster itwas, but it's, it literally

(07:17):
makes my body physically reactbecause he, I think the plane
went down in Somerset and Ithink that's what he was coming
on to talk about.
And he was like, we areofficially under attack, and
that's where you go.
And then I walked in, watchedthe tower, collapse, and then
that's all we did.
Like nobody did anything.
Like everybody just, Rosie wastrying to get ahold of Billy

(07:39):
because he was in York and inNew York nobody could get ahold
of anybody.
'cause there was one cell phonetower at the time.
Yeah, it was, it was, yeah.
That's what, and that's what,just what you did for days.
Like you just, we kind of allstumbled through life for a few
days and then you startedwatching footage of it.
And you were watching peoplejump and it was just horrific.

(08:02):
Horrific.

Becca (08:03):
How old were you guys when nine 11 occurred?

Sarah (08:06):
I was 20, 22, 23.

Becca (08:09):
28.
22, okay.

Sarah (08:11):
Yeah.
And if you were 28?
I was 23 then.
Yeah.

Becca (08:14):
Well,

Chris (08:14):
cause I was, I was 27.
You were 20?
Yeah, because I got divorced thenext year.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So not saying because of nine11, but it certainly didn't
help.

Becca (08:26):
It certainly didn't help as, as

Chris (08:28):
crazy.
I mean, you figure out how shortlife is and you figure out that,
you know, maybe, maybe Ishouldn't ruin everything for
both, uh, both of us.
Because I, there was one thingthat I recently read

Sarah (08:40):
though, like, there's a lot of stories about, you know,
people who survived because ofcertain things that happened
that morning.
They didn't wake up on time.
They Right.
Were caught up in traffic.
They were taking their kid tokindergarten.
They were like the cannerFitzgerald guy, like the, one of
the.
Big wigs there, their wholecompany died and he wasn't there

(09:01):
'cause he was taking his kid tokindergarten.
You know, like all of thesestories like that.
And they're all really sad and Ican't imagine survivor's guilt
that happens with that.
But the one thing to take out ofthat is when you're on your way
somewhere and somebody's going25 in front of you and you're
like, listen motherfucker, I gotplaces to be.
They might have saved your life.

Chris (09:21):
I'm trying to get to the twin towers.
You ask

Sarah (09:24):
Yeah.
Like there's like how many ofthose stories?
Yeah.
Like, so when you get frustratedand then you're running behind
and you're, things aren't goingtotally right.
Maybe you're actually rightwhere you need to be.

Chris (09:36):
That is such a good, that is such a good philosophy.
So I was in, I was in Arizona,so I'm three hours behind, like
all this stuff is happening atwhat, like 9 30, 10 o'clock?
Here.
It's six or seven.
I got up.
Well, here's the thing, like Ididn't watch the news in the
morning.
Just like I don't watch the newsnow.

(09:57):
Like I got ready for work, I gotready for work, and I popped in
a cd.
Becca, we used to have theseround things that had music on
them called CDs, and I had,well, I had a five disc changer
in my car.
'cause of course I did.
I'm success

Sarah (10:14):
changer in my trunk.
Go ahead.

Chris (10:17):
Trunk.
So I'm just bebopping into work,you know, listening to some
music and I got into thebuilding into our office and
it's like 7:00 AM our time.
So right around the same timeSarah's getting to work in
Pennsylvania.
Um, I.
In the, the tower, just thesecond plane had already hit.
So we knew this wasn't anaccident already.

(10:39):
Like I walked into it notknowing it was an accident.
I knew that this shit was badand they had closed down shit in
Chicago.
They're like, there's a planeheaded for the Pentagon.
Then that plane crashed inSomerset and I was like, wait,
how fucking close is Somerset towhere I live?
Because it's still not supergood at geography.
On the phone with our dad.

(11:00):
I just wanna be there with youguys.
And I had like a full day ofwork, but we had one teeny
little, like black and white TVwhere we could watch all this
stuff happening.
And I was supposed to teach aclass for residents and I was
like, you guys can come over andhang out in my library.
But we're not, I'm not teachinganything.
I'm just, I don't think, thinkabout how horrific this is, but

(11:21):
you can come over and take a napif y'all need to.
And I just, I just can't getover how.
I can't describe accurately howmuch we all came together the
next day.
Yeah, the reactions were kind ofdifferent and like there were
senators standing outside the.

(11:42):
The Capitol building.
Everyone was like this, thisshall not stand.
You cannot come here and killpeople that we love.
We can kill them, obviously.
Yeah, that's

Sarah (11:52):
apparently, that's okay.
Safe.
We can

Chris (11:54):
kill them.
But you guys can't like at all.
No, thanks.
The place where I worked, thisis never happens.
Different groups got togetherand we were like, we have to do
something.
And uh, you know, we we're like,we can, uh.
My, my little researchdepartment was pretty into
biological weapons at that time.

(12:14):
And, um, what would happen if weweaponized anthrax?
So we were kind of looking atthat stuff.
So we, we went to Washington DCto see John McCain and that's
where I met Sarah.
And, and my dad came down to DCto pick me up'cause I was gonna
go back to Pittsburgh, um, tovisit.
It was the.
That's where we found, uh,that's where we found snipers on

(12:35):
the roof of the, of the WhiteHouse.
It was crazy.
Yeah.
That's when

Sarah (12:38):
like,'cause that shit wasn't normal before.
That wasn't normal.
Having snipers on, I mean, theremay, they may have been there
but weren't Visible.
Visible, but you coulddefinitely see them and that the
one good thing if it.
I mean, whatever.
But was that trip, that wasprobably one of the most amazing

(12:59):
trips I've ever had to be inWashington, DC a month after
nine 11 and everything was likea ghost town.
Um,

Chris (13:09):
Becca, you been, have you been to DC just to visit?
Like I've always just wanted togo.
It's a big, it's a big city,right?
There's people everywhere.
The streets are packed.
People are going to and frohither and yon, if you will.
There was nobody after dark,like after people went to work,
everybody went home, everybodywent, the bars were empty, the

(13:31):
restaurants were empty.
Like if you didn't have to be inthe city, you just weren't.
It was wild.
It looked like, it looked likePittsburgh at nine o'clock at
night.
Like there was just nobodythere.

Sarah (13:44):
But it was great.
Your company was awesome.
They got us a, a driver and hedrove us around to every
monument that we wanted to, andthere was nobody else around us.
And we could take our time andwalk through every monument and
follow at a safe distance behindDaddy as we walked through the
Vietnam monument and watched hisshoulders go like this,

Chris (14:06):
fucking crushing.
Let him and him like, gethimself together at the end.
Just let him

Sarah (14:10):
go.
Horrible.
Yeah.

Chris (14:12):
That

Sarah (14:12):
was a good trip.
Horrible trip.
That was a good trip.
And, uh, oh my God.
I wanted to make out with thesnipers.
I was trying to figure out likehow I, I could get ahold of
them.

Becca (14:21):
That's real.

Sarah (14:23):
Right.
And then we got the fuck outtaDodge the next day.
'cause uh, we attackedAfghanistan.
Right, right.
We were like, we gotta go.
In fact, I think that night,like there was, there was
rumblings about it.
I believe that maybe, did I makeup the fact that you got a call
from somebody?
It was like, don't drink thewater.
We got rumblings.
Something was happening.
You got a signal

Becca (14:42):
chat?
Um, yeah.

Sarah (14:44):
There was a pigeon that came by and told us that we
should get out.
I didn't even have my cell phoneturned on, I don't think.
I was like, I don't mind leavinglike right now.
Right.
I think we were at theOccidental Eating Dinner and I
was like personally being, beingthe huge puss of the group and
per I'm fine just packing up thecar at 10 o'clock at night and
leaving, and daddy was like, no.

(15:07):
No, I'm enjoying this time withmy girls.
I'm not gonna let these peopleruin this.

Becca (15:11):
These people's were launching an attack on
Afghanistan.
It's a little bit bigger gonnathese people.
Oh, that's, so maybe it wasn't,maybe he didn't

Sarah (15:17):
say these people.
But I mean, I'm not gonna letthis chase us, us out of here.

Chris (15:22):
Jumbo was like, we are, we are Denver strong.
I think he might have coined thephrase that all these other
cities stole after that Devs

Sarah (15:28):
Denver strong, but yeah.
But I'm not sure any of usslept.
And I think that we left like atthe crack ass of Dawn, four 30
in the

Chris (15:36):
morning.

Sarah (15:37):
Yeah.

Chris (15:37):
We were like, all right.
Wrap it up.
We out pack it

Sarah (15:40):
up.
Gaster out.

Chris (15:44):
There was the one guy that came over to our table and
asked my dad if Sarah wasCameron Diaz.

Sarah (15:50):
Yeah.

Chris (15:50):
Woo.
These are things actually stick

Sarah (15:53):
that stick in my sister's crawl.
I don't, is crawl the word?
That's what I was say, but Idon't know what your craw is and
why.
I'm not sure anything wouldstick in there.
Is it the place on your bodythat gets irritated?
I dunno.

Chris (16:08):
Yes.
But I was like, no, it's notCameron Diaz.
Get out of, get away from ourtable.
Dumb ass.
Don't be stupid.
Stupid.
Ooh.
I was like, do you want a glassof Shiraz?
It was when I was young enoughto pretend that I liked wine.

Sarah (16:21):
Yeah, we were definitely drinking wine and I That's, that
was still in my, yeah.
I love wine days.

Chris (16:28):
Oh yeah.
Wines ev.
Everyone loves wine.
It's great.
No tastes like spoiled grapes.
What the fuck?
Why would you ruin grape juicedisgust by fermenting it,

Sarah (16:36):
right?
Yes.

Becca (16:39):
Why would you do that?
Becca likes, Becca still

Sarah (16:41):
likes wine.

Becca (16:43):
I don't know how that happened.
You'll

Sarah (16:44):
recover and it's fine.

Becca (16:46):
You'll figure it out.
You'll, Hey, it's a phase you'llwork out of it.
It's okay.

Sarah (16:50):
You know, I, I mean all the phases I went through that I
felt, I had to pretend that Ilike things'cause they were
cool, like hiking.
I'm not sure I ever went hiking,but I know that I got hiking
boots and gear and shit.
Do you Or outdoors in general.
I was like,

Becca (17:04):
yeah, I love terrible being outside.
My boyfriend brought up going toHawking Hills, which is very
nice and very exciting.
But if you've not heard ofHawking Hills in Ohio, it's just
nothing but outside.

Chris (17:17):
Dunno.
Mm-hmm.
There's no,

Becca (17:19):
there's no reason.
So what do I do outside and howdo I tell him that I don't know
what to do outside?
That's another part of theconversation.
You just say, I'm

Sarah (17:27):
not a very outdoorsy person.
Like, and if you're interestedin checking out the outdoors, I
suggest it mean it looks, knowyou should do things that your
partner wants to do, and thenmaybe if you don't like it, then
you're like, yeah, it's notreally.
It's not something I'm gonna dooften, like I wanna support you
in your madness.
But yeah.

Becca (17:45):
Well, I'm excited for it.
I'm just gonna be so embarrassedwhen we're hiking and it's five
minutes and my face is brightred.
Yeah.
Sweaty.
Immediately wet.
Sorry.
Sorry, I'm literally gonna slidethrough this hiking trail like,

Sarah (17:59):
yeah, there's

Becca (18:00):
no other way.
You might love it.
You

Sarah (18:02):
might fall in love with it.
Fake

Chris (18:02):
an injury like the, just let's just compound the lie by
faking an injury, tellinganother lie.
That's usually the way to go.
Sarah's a life coach.
She might have better advice,but my advice is continue with
the lie of liking the outdoorsand then lie about an injury you
have that prevents you fromenjoying the outdoors.

Becca (18:20):
Because I don't mind the outdoors.
I've just, I've not beenfishing, I've not been camping.
I, I just don't know how to doit.
I mean,

Sarah (18:29):
that's my solid advice is to make sure that your boyfriend
knows that you've never done anyof this, but you're excited to
check it out and, uh, check itout.
You might actually totally digit, and if not, I mean, it
might, you might dig it for alittle while and then be like,
Nope, not my thing.
Give it a go.

Becca (18:48):
I need to, I need to.
New

Sarah (18:49):
things are good.
Trying new things is a goodthing.

Becca (18:52):
Yes.
Sorry, I don't know where thatwas going.
I don't know why I mentionedthat.
I thought, I think I said

Sarah (18:56):
something.
Oh no.
'cause I said one of the thingsI tried to like go yeahing to
like, things go, yeah.
Oh guys, 7:00

Becca (19:02):
AM is really good for me.
Why is, why my brain is, I

Chris (19:07):
hope nobody looks at the YouTubes'cause there's sun on
me.

Sarah (19:11):
You're gonna get sunburned.
I don't.
Speaking of, there's your

Chris (19:15):
sunburn

Becca (19:16):
here.
If I put it in the shadow,where's your bra?
It's getting better.
I don't have a bra on with thissweater.
She doesn't have to wear bra.

Sarah (19:25):
There are no bra laws.
We burn brass.

Chris (19:29):
It's

Becca (19:29):
before 9:00 AM.

Sarah (19:31):
Yeah, we burn bras, especially before nine.
She's wearing,

Chris (19:34):
wearing a shirt.
Really?
Yeah.

Becca (19:37):
You're

Chris (19:38):
welcome.
Alright, so that was theintroduction.
I didn't realize it was gonna benine 11 recap.
Um, not on my agenda.
Yeah.

Sarah (19:45):
Shit is, yeah, shit is, it's a shitty news day all
around.
And, um, I bought a jeep.
You bought a jeep today?

Chris (19:55):
No, after nine 11.
I was like, well, you did.
You know what I, that was adeep, you know what

Sarah (19:59):
stupid a Jeep.

Chris (20:03):
Oh my god, it was so hot.
Yeah.
In Arizona, like the sun is justbeating down on me.
The air conditioning in thisthing wouldn't work.
There's no reason to have thelid on, so I never had the lid
on.
The seatbelt would get caught inthe wind and just beat the shit
outta me.
Yeah.

Sarah (20:19):
We took a trip to San Diego once from Arizona and
drove in the Jeep with a topdown.
We got there like, I wish we hadpictures.
How did we not have pictures oftwo of us?
We got, we didn't cameras on ourphones fairly certain we were
covered in dust.
We were just covered in fuckingdirt and our hair.
We drove through the desert.

(20:41):
Our hairs was literally, this ishow we showed up at the fancy
hotel that we couldn't afford.
Covered in dirt wearing, right?
Like this khaki cargo pantsjamming into the Indigo Girls
like bar.
Oh, here the lesbians.

(21:02):
Hey.
Yeah.
This is what it, yeah, yeah.
Jam into the Indigo Girls.

Chris (21:07):
Yeah.
Oh my God.
We look like two baby monkeysthat had just wandered in off
the street.
Oh, it was terrible.

Becca (21:14):
I'd love to think about baby monkeys right now.

Sarah (21:17):
Baby

Becca (21:18):
monkey.
Hey, wherever you're listening,wherever you're listening,
whether you're in your car,you're at, you know, this is
your job break.
Nice.
You're on, you're on break.
Think about little baby monkeysright now.
That's very nice.
I'm

Sarah (21:29):
gonna send you two, uh, a little text here.
About baby monkeys and it's myfavorite.
You have to look at it right now'cause it's might be my favorite
is think in the world and thenwe'll talk about it.
'cause it makes me smile likewhen I'm not having the greatest
day.
Oh

Becca (21:49):
well no.

Sarah (21:50):
Come on over here little buddy.
Yeah, there you go.
Yeah.
Come on over.
Come on over you little babymonkey.
Come on.

Chris (21:58):
Come

Sarah (21:58):
on over.
Come on over.

Chris (21:59):
Baby monkey.
We're all struggling today.
Hello?

Sarah (22:02):
Oh, I love the baby monkeys.
They're my favorite.

Chris (22:06):
Um, alright, I would like to talk about my two trips to
Boston and my,

Sarah (22:11):
can I, um, um, can I mute myself and go get uh, coffee?

Chris (22:16):
Yes.
I don't know why, why?
I dunno why I'm asking

Sarah (22:18):
you.
How about I'm just gonna mutemyself and go get coffee.
I could still hear you guysthough, so don't talk shit.
It's my permission,

Chris (22:23):
right?
I can't wait until you're offcamera.
Do you see your hair though?
Come on.
What is she doing?
Oh, there she is.
There she is again.
Oh, oh.
Down.
Quick back.
Doubling

Becca (22:34):
back.

Chris (22:36):
Was she stuck?

Becca (22:39):
I, anyway, I think she was, I think she's popping in
for a second to be like, Hey,

Chris (22:43):
you don't fucking talk about me.
Um, so Becca, I went to, I wentto a conference in Boston last
week.
So Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,I was in Boston and I had dinner
with, um, I had dinner withElaine c uh, friend of the pod.
We often get fewer mail fromElaine.
So, hi Elaine.
So good to see you.

(23:03):
And Elaine and I had a lovelyconversation at this, one of my
favorite restaurants in, inBoston called Lolita's.
It's like a Mexican basement,like it's dark, it's, there's
like all kinds of like red.
It's red, red, it's black, it'sdark.
I look great there.
Like if I, if I ever have toimpress somebody, I'm gonna take

(23:23):
them to Lolita'cause I lookamazing.
Like it's, you can't, you canbarely see me.
I'm so tiny, I get lost.

Becca (23:30):
Beautiful.

Chris (23:31):
But we were outside and it's right by the, it's right by
the river.
And um, I thought, look howcute, like little squirrels from
running past the restaurant.
It's so adorable.
It's so naturey.
And then I looked closer and Iwas like, those are rats.
Those are rats.
There's rats here.
Elaine, there's rats.

Becca (23:52):
No.

Chris (23:53):
Rats.
And they're like, and then likeas, as it got darker, like
these, they, they're, uh,evening rats.
But as it got darker, like thecloser to the restaurant, the
rats were coming and I was like,I, we have to leave.
We have to be done eating.
We can't, like, Elaine has herfeet up on the little bench
where she's sitting and I'mlike, I gotta pick up my purse.

(24:15):
'cause when these rats is gonnarun away with it and then I
won't have a purse.
So that was like.
And then like we take a pictureand we send it to our other
friend Elaine.
And um.
That's Elaine.
K.
There's two Elaine's.
Like what are the odds?
There's two Elaine's in acompany.

Becca (24:31):
I was just about to ask and be like, wow, how crazy.

Chris (24:34):
Like Christine's, there's like a, there's a butt ton of
them all the time.
Like, you're gonna be, you'regonna be known by your last name
or some derivative of Christine.
Like it's just a given.
But Elaine, no.
So Elaine c and I take a selfieand we send it to Elaine Kay.
And she's like, oh, you're gonnamiss us by a week.
Penny and I are gonna be in townnext week.

(24:55):
And I was like, now Elaine,Elaine, c Elaine, Kay.
And Penny and I all worked forthis little company that made
little, uh, deaf babies here.
It best work ever.
Um, and she was like, you got,you should come back.
Canals.
You should come back.
'cause there was alreadyChristine, so it was canals.
You should come back.

(25:15):
And I was like, oh, that's nice.
And then I start, that's sogross.
Sarah's interrupting my story byshowing us off camera and just
holding it up to the her camera.
Soft baked, nutty buddy creampies.
For those of you who are notwatching on the YouTubes, she's
disappeared again anyway, so Iwas like, you know, I could do
that.
I have plenty of airline pointsand hotel points.

(25:37):
I could come back and havedinner like it's a quick flight.
Um, it's free and I certainlyshould make the time to see my
old friends.
It's not like, you know, so I,I, I, I had maybe a cocktail

(25:58):
that night and I was liketexting with them and I'm like,
yeah, no, you guys, I'm gonnacome back.
Where are you staying?
Like, where are you staying?
They're like, oh, we're stayinghere.
And then I booked the hotel andI booked a flight.
And Monday when I'm supposed togo back to Boston, I have a
panic attack in the morning.
Because obviously, obviouslythey were just being polite and

(26:21):
they don't really want me tocome back.
Like it was just, they're,they're polite and they don't,
they don't really, now, now I'mgonna be there, and now
everything's gonna be awkwardbecause they didn't really mean
it.
So I had to call Sarah and I waslike, Hey, so they don't really
want me to go there and now Ihave to go'cause I have a hotel

(26:44):
room in a plane flight.
And then it'll be weird when Iget there.
And Sarah being a reasonablehuman being, was like, please
don't be stupid.
And I was like, it's my coaching

Sarah (26:52):
technique.

Chris (26:54):
I will continue to be stupid.
And then, you know, she was, shedid do a nice job of coaching me
through it.
Of course not.
And then I was like, you knowwhat?
Um.
I, I am fine and people reallyenjoy spending time with me and
I'm gonna continue acting as ifpeople do wanna hang out with
me.
'cause I am kind of fun to, tobe around and a decent human

(27:16):
being and, and people like thatabout other people.
And you know what, Becca, youknow what?
They were happy to see me.

Becca (27:26):
Wish they were who wouldn't be happy to see you.

Chris (27:28):
And it was, it was all of these people that we had done
all these weird things with.
We had to practice, uh, they hadto practice on how to get the
medicine into the kids' ears andyou like cut a hole in the back
of their head and dump it inthere.
So we had gone through thatexperience where they had shown
me that.
Using, um, using cadavers.

(27:50):
So, and as they're doing that,like the one, uh, the one doctor
who's, you know, very fancy,he's a brain surgeon or
whatever, neurologist, I don'tknow what he is, but he is, he
is obviously been to medicalschool and I haven't, so he is a
little bit intimidating.
He comes over to me.
No it doesn't.
No it doesn't.
No it doesn't.
But he's still intimidating.
Right.
And he, this was before I wasall, uh, you know, all mature.

(28:13):
All healed up from all of mypast childhood trauma.
So he, he comes over and he'slike, Hey, if you need to step
out of the room, you can.
And I was like, really?
Now I'll vomit in my own mouthand swallow it back down before
I step out of this room.
And then I got kind of dizzy.
'cause of the smell I've heard.

(28:40):
Anyway.
Um, believe in yourself.
People wanna hang out with you.
That's the moral of the story.
And don't, if anyone says, doyou wanna watch the doctors
practice this procedure?
The answer is no.
No, I don't.
I don't.

Sarah (28:50):
Nope.
Are no's gonna me better?
Are you?
Nope.
Okay.
Get the fuck out.
Okay.
Even,

Chris (28:54):
no, I'm gonna be back at the hotel nurse in this
hangover.
Thank you.
Yeah.

Sarah (28:59):
See, uh, see ya

Becca (29:00):
show.

Sarah (29:02):
Yes.
All

Chris (29:02):
good.

Sarah (29:03):
I'm glad you gotta see your friends.

Chris (29:05):
I know it was real nice.
It was real nice.
And uh, you know, because we allwork in the same industry, they
were like, you should stay forthe conference.
We can sneak you in.
And I'm like, you guys, I don'tthink I should do that.
Well,

Sarah (29:16):
that's like the ultimate nerd thing, sneaking into the
NERD conference.
Don't worry.
I was

Becca (29:22):
We'll sneak you into the, we'll sneak you into the
convention.

Sarah (29:25):
We'll sneak you another NERD conference.

Chris (29:28):
It was like back in the day when I was with the band,
everyone else was, we'll get youa

Sarah (29:32):
lanyard.
Right.
We'll put pins on it so it lookslegit.
Yeah.
We'll get, get you some flare.

Chris (29:37):
My God.
Right, right.
So instead of sneaking intoclubs these days, I'm sneaking
into rare disease conferences.

Sarah (29:45):
It, I mean, it's, that's how it's develop, it's life
development or what's mm-hmm.
What's the progression?
It's the way it goes.
It's just, it's just how it is.

Chris (29:55):
So I would like to, I would like to give those guys a
bit of a shout out.
Thanks guys.
It was really nice to see you.
I saw it like I was the surpriseguest.
Love, um, love that.
This is much, they were excitedabout me being there.
I was the surprise guest at thecocktail hour and we were so, we
were all so excited to see eachother that we ended up not

(30:17):
eating dinner, and I had theDoorDash food to the hotel.

Becca (30:22):
Aw

Chris (30:23):
and I, so for dinner I had three spicy margaritas.

Becca (30:28):
That's awesome.
That's

Chris (30:28):
valid.
That's okay.
Don't, I don't recommend.
'cause then by the time I got,and then I drank, I drank them
so slow these days that by thetime I got back to the hotel, I
was sober and hungover andhungry.
Yeah.

Sarah (30:41):
Sometimes I feel like same.
Same night, same day.
Hangovers are worse.

Chris (30:45):
It was.
It was brutal.
But I did watch Stephen Colbertfor a little while, so I mean,
it all works out.
It all works out.
It was his 10th anniversaryepisode.
He says, you know, you get for a10th anniversary here at NBC.
Canceled

Sarah (30:59):
the boot.
The boot.
See ya.

Chris (31:01):
Oh, alright.
So it's conference season againand I have a picture of those
big blue balls again.
Those of you, long timelisteners will remember.
Yeah.
The first time I went to thisparticular conference, there
were giant blow up blue balls.
So they recycle the blue balls?
Yeah, they've come, they bring'em out every year.
Apparently they bring'em back.

Sarah (31:20):
It's the Blue Ball Conference.
That's really what they need tocall it from now on.
Welcome to the Blue BallConference.
Everybody and every guy in theaudience goes.

Chris (31:30):
Um, and it took me a while to find them.
'cause I thought they, they hadhidden them like they were in
inside the, uh, they weren't inthe exhibition hall, but they
were near the, um, theconference rooms.

Sarah (31:42):
I thought maybe they just, they were just smaller
blue walls.

Chris (31:46):
No, no, no.
They were still giant.
Uh, giant.
But I thought maybe they tookthem away because somebody heard
the podcast and heard me say,

Becca (31:55):
and then it was like

Chris (31:57):
tens and tens of listeners being the change we
wanna see in the world.
No more blue balls.

Sarah (32:07):
Oh, fucking blue balls.

Becca (32:11):
Man.
I hate getting blue balls.

Sarah (32:13):
I mean,

Becca (32:14):
where Becca?

Chris (32:17):
Okay.

Sarah (32:18):
The balls suck, I hear.
I don't know.

Chris (32:21):
I don't know.
Anyway, moving on.
Moving on to our, our nexttopic.
So you have to tell me the nameof the book that we're, that
we're reading next, because Igotta read a book.

Sarah (32:33):
The Burnout.
I just had it on that, on thatPost-it notes that I threw.
Was that

Becca (32:39):
what was on the Post-it note?

Sarah (32:40):
Yeah.
Fuck God dammit.
It was a pink one

Becca (32:43):
I finally read along this time.

Sarah (32:46):
Yeah.
The burn.
Was it Burnout Society?
I sent you a text.
I sent you a text with it.

Chris (32:52):
Yes.
Yes.
By B, young Chohan.

Sarah (32:55):
Yeah.
B um, I I want to mention a fewthings though before we get into
that.
Number one A FSP out of theDarkness Walk on Saturday.
A shout out to our friends atMarch 4th that we saw them woo
woo.
They had their own.
Their own tent, their own table.
And I think every time, for thetime that we spent over there,

(33:16):
there were people over theregathering information.
I hope that, I hope they gotsome donations and it was nice
to see them sharing Tanner storyand all of the good that they
are doing with their, theircrocs and crew necks.
With what hospital?
Is it

Chris (33:30):
UPMC?
No, Western psych.
Western Psych,

Sarah (33:34):
which

Chris (33:34):
is I think a part of UPMC.

Sarah (33:37):
Anyway, they're doing really, really awesome work and
uh, it was nice to walk arounddown there.
It's a shitty thing to see allthe people there that have lost
people that are, are walking forpeople.
But it's nice to see that acrowd gets together and does
something for good.
Shout out to match, match, matchfolk with what?
Shout out to, to March 4th.

(33:59):
Jackie and Ed, we love you guys.
Good.
We were glad that we got to seeyou after the walk.
We went to fat heads.
Which I kept calling, I wastelling someone about this last
night.
I kept calling it Nick's fatcity and I was like, no, that's
old.
Nope, there's not there anymore.
You

Becca (34:13):
brewery,

Sarah (34:15):
what's that?
Nick's

Becca (34:15):
fat, the Fathead Brewery,

Sarah (34:18):
the Fat Fathead.
It's in the south side.
So, and somebody was like, youwere at the south

Chris (34:22):
side, Becca.
This is a, this is a restaurant.
What?
I'm so confused.
I used to try to get in herewhen I was under 21 because.
It was just like the coolestplace.
Okay.
I was

Becca (34:33):
gonna say,'cause I was like, I know that there's like a
fatheads like brewery, so Ididn't know if this was like
Yeah.
A restaurant

Sarah (34:40):
or if this was It's the same thing.
It's, it's Fatheads beer.
I mean, it's all their beer,right?
Don't they have they have abrewery.
The Bumblebee.
But,

Chris (34:49):
but this is,

Sarah (34:51):
it's the restaurant back in the day in the south side.

Chris (34:53):
Back in the day, um, you, you didn't have to have like a
separate brewery.
Like you could have a brewery,but this was like a place where
you could go and eat a shit tonof fried food.
Yeah.
And they had a really prettylike glass window in the front.
And if you were, if you wantedto see and be seen on the south
side back when, like nine, 11days, like that's where, that's
where you would go and hang out.

(35:13):
Like they would have, and it wasa super tiny little place and
you would pack.
Pack in there and I thinksomeone let me in the back door.
And that's how I got in therewhen I was 20.

Sarah (35:26):
Yeah.
This is back in the day when youcan get away with shit.
We went there at noon Saturday.
That's first Saturday.
Somebody was like, uh, you werein the south side.
'cause apparently it's not greatthere anymore.
And I was like, yeah, it wasstill daylight.
It was like breakfast hour.
So we get in there and Christineorders.
The bumble berry or whatever thebeer is that we like there.

(35:46):
And the, the waitress, cutelittle college waitress, she
said, uh, I need to scan yourid.
And Christine went and I wasjust

Chris (35:53):
at an athletic activity, so I didn't have my, I had my
credit card'cause that's usuallyhow I get the beer.
I have gray hair, like no one ismistaking me.

Sarah (36:05):
She didn't care.
No.
Or

Chris (36:06):
I was like, are you kidding me?
And my, um, I blinked a lot.
I, and she was like, yeah.
And she didn't even apolo shewasn't even apologetic about it.
She was like, no, no.
She was like, listen,

Sarah (36:17):
we got busted by the LCB.
I'm not allowed to do, likeI've, she was, she was very good
at her job.
'cause I would've been like,okay, I'll, I'll get, I'll get
it for you.
I would've felt bad, but shewas, she was like, no, we, we.
I'm not allowed.
I have to scan your id.
I like, obviously you're olderthan 21, but I just can't do it.
Noah did not have his licenseeither.

(36:37):
Uh, the only only person thatPepsi had a license was me And
immediately one of my friends Iwas telling about it last night
was like, so did you like getbeer and then just share it with
him?
I was like, yeah,'cause one beerfor the three of us at noon.
Perfect.
That's like, we'll just, that'stake sips out of it.
Like, yeah, that's all weneeded.
I was like, I think that we hadthat intention when I got the

(36:59):
beer and like Right.
Sissy took a couple sips out ofit, but we're like, goody two
shoes too.
So I was like, hurry, hurry.
Before she comes back.
Don't let her see you.

Chris (37:06):
Yeah.
Like she was gonna kick us out.

Sarah (37:09):
Yeah.
Oh.
And then I was, as I'm lookingin the menu, I'm like, wow,
something seems different.
Like I always remembered goinginto Fatheads and there being a
very big menu with too manythings on it and saying.
There's too much shit on that.
Like I can't decide.
And um, all sissy talked aboutall morning was getting fried

(37:29):
mushrooms.
All she wanted was friedmushrooms and she ordered the
fried mushrooms and they nolonger have the fried mushrooms.
No.
And I was like, yeah.
I was like, wasn't your menularger?
And she said, yeah, we justrevamped the menu.
We took everything off of itthat has bread, egg.

Chris (37:48):
I was like, what?
Our reactions exactly.

Sarah (37:50):
I was

Becca (37:50):
like,

Sarah (37:50):
what?

Becca (37:51):
What the fuck?
The relieved the cook for sure.
Coming from that standpoint.
Relieved, but also damn likefried mushrooms.
Fuck

Sarah (38:01):
and not so good.
Like you bite the first one andit burns the fuck outta your
mouth.
Right?
Because all that hot it shootsthe mushroom juice.
Mushroom juice.

Chris (38:07):
Like right here.
Like it's horrible,

Sarah (38:11):
horrible.
And you go, ha ha, ha.
And then you take another bite.

Becca (38:17):
Yeah.
When you start breathing throughyour mouth, right, you have it
on

Sarah (38:20):
your

Chris (38:20):
tongue.

Becca (38:21):
That's my go-to.

Chris (38:21):
Yeah, right.

Becca (38:22):
I'm so hungry.
That sounds delicious.
Becca.
They would

Chris (38:24):
give you like a shit ton.
There was a pile of them on yourplate.
I would go there for lunch andjust get that and then take half
of them home.
Even back in the Christine's aslightly bigger person and can
eat a lot more days, but, andthey were like big mushrooms
too.
They're like not, it wasn't aone bite, it was like something
you had to take two bites of.
So you definitely get likemushrooms all over your face.

Sarah (38:45):
Shit.
All yeah.

Chris (38:46):
Yeah, they don't serve.
That's all I wanted.

Sarah (38:47):
Anything.
So if you're going to fathead toFathead, make sure you have your
license if you wanna drink beerand don't go there with the
intention of just getting friedfruit.
Fruit

Chris (38:57):
fried fruit.
I, I was so, I was like, thisis, I was so drunk in that back
corn.
I'm like pointing to the place.
I'm trying to explain to thegirl I was so drunk back there
in the nineties that I had tohave help to the car that I then
drove home.
I mean.

Becca (39:15):
Drive home.

Chris (39:18):
Becca has choices.
A different

Sarah (39:19):
time, bad choice.
That was okay back then.
It was total, totally.
It was a different, I mean itwasn't, wasn't really, but it
was just, yeah.
Where there was, and there wereno Ubers.
Nobody was coming.
We had no apps on our phones toget somebody to come pick us up.
Up.

Becca (39:32):
No self-driving ones.

Sarah (39:34):
No.
We earned our DUIs.
Thank you very much.
You know we had

Becca (39:39):
get that T-shirt.

Sarah (39:40):
We need to get, uh, change or call our parents
collect or Right.
Get to the payphone.
That's what we did, right?
Yes.

Chris (39:51):
I think like we got to the car, my little group of
friends from college, and Ithink we did this.
Rock, paper, scissors or what.
What we also used to do is seewho could get the key in the
lock and if you could then youwere probably okay to drop
because

Sarah (40:07):
you also had keys.
Like there were these metalthings.
The key, you had like littleteeth looking things on them.
Yeah, my car has lot.
You had a Oh, okay, so you'regood, you're good.

Becca (40:16):
Yeah.
My car's a 2008.
You guys were talking about CDholders.
I was like, I got a six one Nicein in my car right now.
So

Sarah (40:23):
nice.

Chris (40:24):
You gotta love this.
Anyway.
Yeah, so it was super bitter.
Oh,

Becca (40:28):
that's so funny.

Chris (40:29):
All I wanted when we were debating like, should we go to
Fathead?
Should we go somewhere else?
I'm like, let's go to Fathead.
Yeah.
We get mushrooms.
I love mushrooms.
No, no we cannot.
They, they've taken all the funout of everything.
I mean's a good thing.
They took the fun out of theDUIs.
'cause that is generallydangerous.
I mean that's not generally likefor real danger.

Sarah (40:49):
Yeah.
So sorry, I was just making alot of noise.

Chris (40:53):
That's alright.

Sarah (40:54):
So what

Chris (40:54):
is it?

Sarah (40:55):
Burnout Society.
The Burnout.
Society.
Society,

Chris (40:58):
yeah.
It's a book from 2015.
It's an older book.

Sarah (41:02):
2002.
Fuck.
I hate that.
That means older.

Chris (41:06):
I was just an older book.
Makes Why?
Why does that mean older sad.
Pre pandemic.
It's pre pandemic.
So is that what we wanna read?
Yeah.
I think we sad because, I mean,I have

Sarah (41:16):
a list of books I want to read, so, but I thought this one
would be good for you,Christine.

Chris (41:23):
I don't, I don't.

Sarah (41:25):
What you mean you will, once we start reading it?

Becca (41:27):
Honestly, I'm excited.
I feel like burnout is somethingthat I've struggled with a lot
and I just don't know how todeal with it.
From creative burnout with filmsand writing and all that
nonsense, I am to just likeschool like.
Not having to go to school andseeing kids actively, like on
school buses, losers, it'sawesome.

(41:51):
But I'm also like, wow, I reallymiss my friends that I really
miss having something to do.
So it sounds interesting.
What's it about?
Obviously, other than that, I

Sarah (42:01):
am, uh, I'm ordering it right now.
I am gonna place the order's.
Our competitive

Chris (42:05):
service-oriented societies are taking a toll on
the late modern individualrather than improving life
multitasking, user-friendlytechnology and the culture of
convenience are producingdisorders that range from
depression to attention deficitdisorder to borderline
personality disorder.
That's the first line.
I'm fine.

(42:26):
I feel great.
I mean, I will tell you guysthat I think

Becca (42:29):
you feel really good and then we're gonna read the book
and I think you and I aregetting it lot closer,

Sarah (42:33):
right?
I'm super excited.
All right.
My order is placed.
Book will be here tomorrow.
I'm,

Chris (42:38):
I, I also feel like I have to confess to you guys that
we have to end at like eight 30because my, it's my boss's boss
sent me an email at 10 15 lastnight and I'm starting to feel
anxious'cause I haven'tresponded to it yet.

Sarah (42:54):
I, I have a meeting and I have to, well, I'm probably not
even gonna go to that meeting'cause I have to go to the park
and try to find my kid's wallet.

Chris (43:02):
Amen.
I mean, have to

Becca (43:04):
make breakfast,

Chris (43:07):
Becca.
Soon you will be in the clubwhere you're gonna be like, man,
I gotta get dressed.
I gotta put a bra on.
I gotta leave the house.

Sarah (43:13):
Yeah, I'm gonna drive through McDonald's when I go to
the park.

Chris (43:17):
That's nice.
Get McDonald's

Sarah (43:18):
hash browns.
You know, I love a McDonald'shash brown McDonald's fried
potatoes in any form are myfavorite fried potatoes.
I don't give a fuck what anybodysays.
Judge me all you want, want tell'em

Becca (43:31):
judge me all you want.
McDonald's hash brown,

Sarah (43:33):
McDonald's fucking hash browns.
Salt those up.
Put some ketchup.
They're so good and I get anextra one'cause I put half of
one on my biscuit and then I eata hash brown and half with just
the salt and the ketchup.
That's genius.
So good.
So good.
Today I might put the whole hashbrown on my sandwich, one on

(43:54):
top, one on bottom.
Smush it all together.

Becca (43:56):
You know what?
Maybe I'll go try that.

Sarah (43:59):
That's my plan for the morning after.
I can't find, I mean, my hope isthat I find Owen's Wallet and I
use money from his wallet to payfor my breakfast, but I don't,
that's where this all came from.
I don't, I don't think that'sgoing to happen.
I think that going to have toget him another work thing.
'cause that's what's in hiswallet.
His work past his work thing,work, work,

Chris (44:22):
um, you guys

Sarah (44:23):
thing

Chris (44:25):
I.
Did I did.
So I've been doing like beginneryoga, um, forever and ever, and
I kicked it up to IntermediateYoga last night.
Yeah.
How'd that go for you?
I'm sore.
Did you get an AS pad for yourmeditating?
No, I haven't bought an AS pad.
I'm gonna buy an AS pad and soI'm gonna buy the Burnout

(44:45):
Society.

Becca (44:47):
May I show you guys something?

Chris (44:49):
Yes.
If you're gonna show us youriPad in, did you get an mask
pad?

Becca (44:52):
So I have these things called poofs.
I thought something else wasgonna, I thought that was

Sarah (44:56):
something else.

Becca (44:57):
Well, they are men's, a poofy pillow perfectly for your
butt.

Sarah (45:02):
Yeah, they have those.
So those are the cute ones thatI liked.
But this one,

Becca (45:09):
that's my evil.
I think my evil eye is what it'scalled.
I don't know.
This one

Sarah (45:13):
is butt shaved.
It's.
It is butt shave.
It's crisscross applesauceshaped so you could sit on it
and your feet can still be downhere without your feet falling
apart.
Oh, and I decided I'm gonnawrite a book eventually.
Yay.
After putting together mycourse, I'm gonna write a book
about being funny andmeditating.

(45:34):
Yes, MI Mindfulness with humor.
Because you can still do mindfulthings without losing your humor
and you could still do mindfulthings without being, um,
serious.
'cause I feel like that's one ofthe biggest misconceptions is
that because we're funny and ourbrains are scattered, that we

(45:55):
can't be serious and be mindful

Chris (45:58):
and you don't meditation

Sarah (45:59):
you to be all that serious.
In fact, like a little bit ofhumor kind of makes it better
'cause.
The humor that I have in mybrain voice.
That bitch is funny.
She's also an asshole, but shecould be real funny.
And sometimes the humor that theconversations I have with her
actually, I'm like, oh, that'seven more awareness, which is

(46:20):
part of the mindfulness, whichis all brings it together.
So you could still be a funnyasshole and still be mindful and
do good things.

Chris (46:28):
Yeah.

Sarah (46:29):
Anyway, I'm eventually gonna write a book about it.

Chris (46:32):
Becca, do you know that Sarah and I are going on a
meditation retreat at the end ofOctober?

Becca (46:37):
Yes.
I was gonna ask you guys when itwas,'cause I remember when I was
going through editing, I made anote and I was like, when is
this retreat?
I've heard so much about it.
I have no clue when it is.

Sarah (46:49):
I've tried to talk her out of it.
I've tried to talk her intocanceling it.
So it's the

Becca (46:53):
end of October.
Yeah,

Sarah (46:54):
Becca.
We have to share bathrooms withpeople we don't know.
I'm not gonna shower or shit allweekend.

Becca (47:00):
I just got done with that.

Chris (47:02):
For four years.
It's gonna be so fun.
Yeah.
Sarah's like, do you think wecould stay off campus?
No.

Sarah (47:07):
I tried to talk her into that.
We can't.
I was like, okay, well if you'renot gonna cancel it, cancel it.
Can we just stay in a hotel?
So like when we leave theretreat, we could go drink and
eat food That's not vegan

Chris (47:19):
now.

Sarah (47:20):
No.
We're gonna eat, so we're goingto eat, paste whatever kind of
past they're serving us.
You know what I think of?
I think of the, what is itcalled?
The the corn that you smash up.
The corn maize.
What?
Why am I thinking?
Is that what it's, we're gonnabe

Chris (47:34):
eating that.
We're gonna be eating that liststuff.
They tortillas out before theycook them.

Becca (47:41):
That would be so good.
We're

Chris (47:42):
gonna be eating that.
We're gonna be eating a shit tonof like barley.
It's, yeah, there's like somany, there's gonna a lot of
vegetables, there's lot thatgoing on.

Becca (47:53):
Well, is it like sweet now?
To me there's like sweet potato,vegan, right?
Not vegetarian.

Sarah (48:00):
No vegan.
I have no clue what the fuckit's gonna be.
Okay, so you'll have, I don'tthink they're gonna have pizza
with pepperoni though.
That's, but

Becca (48:07):
you'll have be sad cheese and egg.

Sarah (48:10):
Yeah.

Becca (48:10):
Dairy?

Sarah (48:12):
I think so.
No.

Becca (48:12):
Okay.
I say as it's like farm to tableshit.
You got dairy, so I think you'llbe okay.
I feel like dairy, you can'treally substitute with anything.
I,

Sarah (48:24):
I mean, I think we'll be fine.
We're going to be fine.
We will be introduced to newthings.
We're

Chris (48:29):
not gonna, we're not gonna wanna eat'cause it's gonna
smell.
We'll be in

Becca (48:32):
to

Sarah (48:33):
new things.
It's gonna

Chris (48:35):
smell so much like patchouli.
We're not gonna wanna eatanyway.
Yeah.

Sarah (48:39):
I love patchouli though, so it's fine with me, but I
chickies.
Ugh,

Becca (48:43):
me too.

Sarah (48:43):
There's gonna be a lot of crunchy stuff.
I'm not talking about food.
I'm talking about people likethere's gonna be crunchy people
I could just tell and they'regonna wanna share a bathroom and
they're not gonna care abouttheir nakedness in front of me
and it's gonna make me superuncomfortable.
There's gonna be a lady therewith flappy boobs that she does
not give a fuck.

(49:04):
She has been high since she was16 and she is now 80 and she's
walking around with.
Big ass gray bush and floppyboobs.
And I gonna run into her in thebathroom and I'm gonna go, whoa
lady.
Come on.

Chris (49:23):
Come on.
I just wanna learn to be abetter person.
Can you cover this isn't me.
Then they'll expect me to give,sit on

Sarah (49:31):
that ass pad and meditate.
And that's all I'm gonna seewhen I close my eyes.

Chris (49:36):
Bumblebee, bumblebee, bumblebee, gray Bush, bumblebee.
Back pain.
Back pain, back pain.

Sarah (49:44):
That's the thing I'm most worried about is just falling
asleep, number one, which isokay, snoring.
But, um, I, I am not good.
Like they talk about when you'remeditating and sitting still
like.
To not move, like, not adjustbecause of whatever itch or pain
you're having.
Like to just work through thatand lean into it and think and,

(50:06):
and think about the pain you'rehaving and why you're having,
like, I'm having that pain.
'cause I'm sitting with my legscrossed for too long and I'm 47
years old, so I'm gonna movethem.
Like that's, I'm not good.
That's, that's, well, there's alot about meditation I have not
mastered whatsoever, but that'slike one of the most major
things is that when I getuncomfortable, I want to move.

(50:28):
When I get uncomfortable, I'm 47years old and I have the ability
to make myself comfortableagain, so I'm gonna do it.
So, I don't know.
That's one of the biggest, likeI just, I will move all the time
as I'm meditating and I feellike I'm gonna get kicked out.
Kicked

Becca (50:44):
out of what?

Sarah (50:46):
Meditation school.
Dan Harrison is gonna kick meout of meditation school.
Mm-hmm.

Becca (50:53):
cause I can't flunk meditation class

Sarah (50:56):
without a fucking doubt.
Mm-hmm.
Meditation drop out.
I'm gonna get sit there

Chris (51:00):
very quietly and very still and watch her get kicked
out.

Becca (51:04):
Real.

Chris (51:04):
It would be one of the joys

Sarah (51:05):
of my life.
It'll, it's gonna be one of themost uncomfortable weekends of
my whole entire life.

Becca (51:11):
You got this Guaranteed.
Sarah.
Sarah, I can handle it

Sarah (51:16):
for sure.
You guys, I will definitely cry.

Becca (51:19):
I can't do this.
I'm gonna call mommy and daddy.
You think mommy will come pickme up?

Sarah (51:26):
Literally every, every soccer camp I went to growing
up, he was gonna pick me up.
Yeah, no worries.

Becca (51:33):
It's really hot.
It's really hot

Sarah (51:36):
and I don't wanna run anymore.
Mm-hmm.
I don't wanna meditate.
I don't wanna meditate, andeverything's really quiet and I
just wanna fart.
That's the other thing, likewhat it's gonna be like, oh man,
fuck.
There's so many things like, butthis is why we have to do it.
This is why we have to do it,because making ourselves

(51:58):
uncomfortable is how we grow.

Chris (52:02):
This is true.
This is true.
Hate hate that.
Plus hate it.
Right, right, right.
Exactly.
Now we're gonna learn aboutburnout.
So hey, welcome back.
I feel like maybe we took, uh,we took summer break from from
meeting.
Yeah, kind of.

Sarah (52:16):
We just kind of, oh,

Chris (52:17):
oh my gosh.
I'm looking at my agenda and Idid forget to tell you guys
about one thing that I did.
Tell us, tell us, tell us.
Since the last time we talked, Itook myself, uh, I took myself
to Barnes and Noble.
I mean, I made a day out of itat Barnes and Park.
Why aren't we reading one ofthose books?

(52:39):
Because they have titles Like MyEx Is The Antichrist and How to
Solve Your Own Murder.
Um, the Murderer also, I don'tknow if you guys, if we were
talking about this when I readthem, but the Thursday Night
Murder Club, um, great book byRichard Osman.
Fantastic.
Yeah.
Fantastic series of books aboutold people mm-hmm.

(53:02):
Who are in a home in like aretirement village, not a home.
And they, it's Netflix, theysolve.
Yes, yes.
And I've had it chewed up, butlike, I can't get to the couch
before eight o'clock and I can'tstart watching it before eight
o'clock'cause that would mean Iwould have to stay.
Okay.
It's okay.

Sarah (53:20):
Like I, I fell asleep for a little bit through it.
So that's kind of like.
And I wasn't hungover oranything, but it was pretty
good.
I'd like to read the series.
I'd like to read the books.

Chris (53:33):
The book was excellent.
Excellent.
Is it,

Sarah (53:35):
is it a series of books or is there just the one?
It's three.

Chris (53:38):
I think there's three or four.
There's three definitely threebooks.
Like great characterdevelopment.
Maybe that's why I like it toomuch.
'cause I read all four and thecharacters just get more
developed each book and I'mlike,

Sarah (53:50):
yeah.
Oh, I'll have to do that after Iread, let me see.
There's four here that I'm yetto crack, and then I just bought
that fifth one.

Chris (54:00):
I had at one point in time, eight books on my little
table.

Sarah (54:04):
I

Chris (54:04):
know you were taking pictures of them and sending
them to me.

Sarah (54:06):
Eight.
You were

Becca (54:07):
reading eight books at once?

Chris (54:10):
No.
Well, I was, I, I had gone, Ihad wandered through and I had
picked up eight books and then Ibrought them back to my table
and I was like.
I think even I can't read eightbooks at one time.
Crazy.
Yeah.

Sarah (54:25):
It's a lot to bottom.
I can read

Chris (54:25):
three at one time.
I'm reading the Mindy Kalingbook.
She's hilarious.

Sarah (54:30):
So funny.
God, I love her.

Chris (54:33):
Love that one.

Sarah (54:34):
Did you read anything about my IBS?

Chris (54:37):
I didn't.
I didn't find anything aboutyour IBS at the, at the Barnes
and Noble, but that placesmells.
It's got a very distinctivesmell.
Starbucks coffee and uh, printedwords paper and so it's so good.
And just they had DVDs there.

(54:59):
They have a section of DVDs andI was like, what are you doing?
Barn de Noble.
I did also come home with a,with a puzzle

Sarah (55:08):
in love, a puzzle.
I got a new puzzle board'causeyou know I have all the time
puzzle board to do fuckingpuzzles.
Right.
This one like folds up, likeit's this felt thing.
You can, it, uh, it sits on anangle so you don't have to break
back, punch over the whole time.
And then it has a fold overthing that you could fold it
over and carry it out and notlose your puzzles everywhere.

(55:30):
And it has the little pockets tohold your puzzle pieces as you
separate them.
It's, I got on a Mac bid for$4.
Nice,

Chris (55:37):
nice.

Sarah (55:38):
Very entire excited about it even though I don't have a
second to build a fuckingpuzzle.

Becca (55:42):
Mac, I have an entire puzzle table.
Sorry.
Go ahead.
What's that, Becca?
No, all I was saying was Macbids, um, supported my whole
Yeah.
And filled my whole collegehouse.
So, and now you may as it shouldtenure.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean tointerrupt you

Chris (55:57):
as it should.
No, no.
I have a whole puzzle tablethat's got all my Legos and
stuff on it.
Yeah.
I need to get more involved.
Those are gonna end up in my Sheshed.
I love a she my pipe dream of ashe shed.
You could do it, of a

Sarah (56:12):
she shed.
Shed.

Chris (56:15):
It's gonna have a pink fur carpet, please.
Becky can come over play.
Becky, you play your cardsright?
You can live in the She shed

Sarah (56:22):
Becca's little baby, tiny house.

Chris (56:24):
Yay.

Becca (56:26):
You gotta take care of the cats though.
No, not creatures.
I hate animals.
God, that's sounds soconvincing.
Awful.

Chris (56:36):
That's right.
Terrible.
Right, right.
But speaking of, I foundspeaking almost, actually,

Becca (56:41):
I just heard my dog.

Chris (56:43):
Going to the Barnes and Noble was on, what was the
holiday?
Not Memorial Day, but what's theother one?
Labor Day.
So this was on Labor Day and Ijust hung out all day.
Whoa.
For four hours.
Hi puppy.

Becca (56:58):
Yeah.
I'm trying to get him up.

Chris (56:59):
Nope.
Yeah, the invisible dog.
Hi.
Hey buddy There.

Becca (57:05):
He's,

Chris (57:07):
Hey.
Is that Scooby?
It's SC.
How's your seizures?
Are you feeling better?
Heck yeah.
Feeling like a, you feeling likea normal dog now?
Yes.
Tell them I sleep all the time.
Same buddy.
Same.
It seems like a good life.
Yeah.
Sleeping.

Becca (57:26):
I love sleeping.
Yeah, he's chilling.
But no, I did not mean tointerrupt you.

Chris (57:29):
No, I mean, it was good for my soul.
Hanging around, visiting withold friends like Agatha Christie
and Stephen King and looking atAnne RA's books.
I was like, I should buy thewhole Mayfair Witch series.
They made that into a TV show.
I need that.
So then I had those three booksand I was like, put them down,
put them down, put them down.

(57:50):
Stop it.
You don't stop

Sarah (57:50):
it.

Chris (57:51):
That would've made 12.
I'm like, I nobody needs a dozenbooks.
I bought so many that they gaveme a bag to put them in.
Not a, not a paper bag.
Like a tote bag.
Yes.

Becca (58:03):
Good tote too.
I have my Barnes and Noble totebag.
I bought that for like 99 centsor like a dollar 99.
And I said, so nice.
It's my little outing.
My little people know where I'mgoing when I have my bag.

Chris (58:17):
I ordered, I ordered myself a vanilla latte and she
was like, oh, your membershipexpired yesterday.
Do you wanna renew it?
And I'm like, yes, I do.

Sarah (58:25):
Absolutely.

Chris (58:26):
That is a$43 coffee now.
Thank you.

Sarah (58:28):
Yes, the best It is perfect,

Chris (58:31):
but what a great day.
What a great day.
I came home and I smelled mybooks.

Becca (58:34):
I'm gonna go smell my books actually.
That's incredible.
I'm gonna smell my books and I'mgonna try that.
McDonald hack.

Chris (58:40):
Yep.
I'm gonna go pee too.

Becca (58:42):
I'm gonna oven age well.

Sarah (58:44):
Enjoy smelling.
Enjoy smelling books.
I will enjoy my time at thepark.
I don't even know what, where tolook.
Good luck soldiers.
And my Mickey D's.

Chris (58:52):
Off I go.
All right, thanks guys.
Alright, love you.
Bye.
Love you, bye.
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