October 16, 2025 • 45 mins
Welcome to another episode of the 'Mental Funny Boat' podcast where Christine is joined by Sarah, and Becca to discuss mental health, wellness, and more.. Chris shares an hilarious exchange about losing a wallet, dealing with customer service, and the absurdity of life's little mishaps. The episode covers mental health themes, book discussions on 'Self-Compassion' by Kristin Neff and 'The Burnout Society' by Byung-Chul Han, while also touching on personal stories about achieving balance and finding joy in life's chaos. This episode combines deep thoughts and hearty laughs, reminding listeners that self-care and humor go hand-in-hand.
How to find mental health help when you're struggling. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists
https://washingtoncountyhumanservices.com/agencies/behavioral-health-developmental-services
https://www.alleghenycounty.us/Services/Human-Services-DHS/Publications/Resource-Guides
Apps - Just search mental health where you get your apps.
EAP programs are a great place to look for help!!
Additional Resources (Sports Related):
https://globalsportmatters.com/health/2020/12/04/mental-health-resources-2/
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Speaker (00:03):
Hello.
Welcome to the Mental FunnyBoat.
This is a podcast where weadvocate for mental health, uh,
awareness, mental wellness, andtaking a step back and kind of
focusing on what's important,which isn't current events.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah,
Speaker (00:19):
that's what I got for you guys.
I'm Christine.
With me, as always, is Garth, mysister Sarah.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Cool.
And for the life of me cannotthink of one Wayne's world quote
to say right now.
Fuck.
Party on Wayne.
There you go.
All right.
It's right.
Swing.
Yeah,
Speaker 2 (00:41):
that's all I could think of.
I was close.
I was close.
Speaker (00:44):
And Becca is also here.
Sarah, before you joined, Beccaand I were talking about what
might make the executive jamthat I'm attending this week.
More fun is if we all had likewalkup music, like baseball
players.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker (01:00):
What would Iris be?
Bad Reputation by Joan Jett.
Wow.
Right.
Even though it, like none of itis true, like, like if I wanted
something that didn't representmy personality at all, it would
be bad reputation.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Is there a song about Stephen King and Token books?
Is that token, is that right?
Is that the.
Okay.
That is the guide.
Is there a song about people whoread those books?
Like, I feel like that should beyour song.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Like I want it to be Joan Jett.
Bad Reputation, but it's morelike Enya.
Like, do you remember Enya fromthe nineties?
Yeah.
Like just like flowy peoplepleasing music.
Like so non-confrontational.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's a very manalow, yeah.
Speaker (01:45):
Elevator music.
Yeah.
And who's the, who's
Speaker 3 (01:50):
the other fucking guy?
Kenny G.
Kenny G.
Oh my gosh.
You know this guy with a hair,
Speaker 2 (01:55):
a signature from Kenny G.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh, that's amazing.
Shocked at all.
Did your dad get that for you?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Told me.
Yeah.
He, I used to play the ax.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Fun
Speaker 2 (02:06):
you used to.
Sorry, Kenny G.
If you listen to the podcast, Ifailed you.
But I hope Kenny G listens tothe podcast.
Kenny G listens to the podcast.
Welcome.
I'm a big fan of board game.
Welcome, big fan.
Welcome.
Kenny.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
What board game?
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Kenny G has an incredible board game.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, it's it's phenomenal.
It's so good.
I, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I must look this up on Amazon right now.
Yeah, I can't.
I have a gift card for Amazonbecause I've worked for my
company for 10 years and that'swhat I got.
Speaker (02:37):
You worked at the same company for, you've sold
railroad ties for 10 years.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well see, that's the thing.
I've been here for 10 years, butI've changed jobs.
I've see, I, I've been in thisone, I'm on my fourth year for
this one, so that will breaksome sort of record.
But I mean, all the samecompany, all in the same area.
Place ish.
I started out inside sales.
I went to account manager andnow I'm in it, but I am the
(03:03):
support bitch for the salesgroup, so.
Is that what it says on
Speaker (03:09):
your business cards?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's what it should say.
Support pitch.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah.
I'm just thinking of a veryprofessional photo of you, and
it's like you just support
Speaker 3 (03:20):
pitch.
Uh, that's me.
Yay.
What am I looking up?
Oh, Kenny G.
Is board Kenny Cheap Board Game
Speaker 2 (03:28):
as a Gen Z.
Um, one of the things that wereally like to do is watch
people play video games andkeeping
Speaker 3 (03:36):
itsy Sorry, sorry, go ahead.
Yeah,
Speaker 2 (03:39):
yeah, that's, that sounds, that sounds about right.
And I watch, um, game Grumps.
They played a very, very funnyplay through of
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Wow, the
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Kenny G game.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't know.
$9 might be too much.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, it's a lifetime worth of memories.
I swear to you.
This game is so funny.
Like, well, it's in my cart.
It's iest events too.
It's so good.
Speaker (04:04):
Oh,
Speaker 2 (04:04):
alright.
My God.
Speaker (04:05):
Do you guys, do you guys wanna hear, um, do you guys
wanna hear Positive catch Cornertoday?
Yes.
So I, I had a very exciting dayafter having to pay the
attention deficit hyperactivitydisorder tax of losing my
wallet, misplacing my wallet.
I'm pretty sure I know where mywallet is, uh, at.
(04:26):
I'm, I'm 99% sure I left it inthe rental car because driving
back from my last business trip,I paid for gas, which would
indicate that I had my wallet.
In the rental car.
And then when I went to look forit two days later after being
home, there was no wallet.
So I then had to call Avis.
(04:49):
And when you call Avis, theymake you fill out a form, a lost
and found form, but they alsolist out all the shit that they
found.
And on the day that I lost mywallet, there's a wallet that
was found.
I was like, well, that seemspositive, right?
Mm-hmm.
So I fill out my form and thenlike a little bit later they
send me an email and say, we'resorry we haven't been able to
(05:10):
locate your wallet.
I'm like, bitch, it's rightthere, bitch.
It's right there.
I don't understand why you can'tmatch that missing wallet with
this one.
That was found like, and also myname is inside of it, and on the
form, I'm not understanding whyI can't have my wallet.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Are you 100% positive it's your wallet and no one else
lost their wallet?
No.
Okay.
Speaker (05:34):
No, no.
I mean, I'm, I'm going with likethe crime theory that all of the
evidence is circumstantial forsure.
But I feel like I have a prettystrong case.
Like if I was prosecuting this,I would definitely have gone to
the district attorney and beenlike, I think we're going to
take this guy to court.
We're.
Going forward.
So what I did was I drove out tothe airport earlier this week,
(05:58):
like before I had to be therefor this trip, and I questioned
the people at Avis.
Very
Speaker 2 (06:03):
fair, very fair.
Speaker (06:05):
I was like, Hey man, who works behind the counter and
who does not want me here?
I was like, this says that youguys found a wallet.
Can I see that wallet?
Can I just, you don't have togive it to me.
I just wanna look at it.
I just wanna look at it becauseI will feel better if I know
that it isn't mine.
He is like you, the policy isyou have to fill out the form.
(06:27):
I'm like, I've already filledout the form.
I've already filled out the formI filled and, and you've already
told me that you haven't foundmy wallet, but there's this
wallet and I am worried thatthis is my wallet and for some
reason you guys aren't able tomatch it with whatever.
And I.
Can I just see the wallet thatyou found?
(06:47):
And he was like, that's not howit works.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He said, that's not how it works.
Speaker (06:51):
Yeah.
He was like, this isn't, we havea, we have a way to do this.
I was like, well, do you havelike a box with the stuff in it?
Because what I would like you todo is just go to that box and
bring out the wallet.
And he was like, that's, he'slike, do you need a manager?
And I was like, you know what?
Yeah.
I'm so sorry.
I've reached the point in mylife where I would like.
(07:12):
To talk to your manager.
So I talked to the manager.
The manager comes out and he'slike, did you fill out the form?
Like it was a comedy special.
Did you fill out the form?
Anyway, I left the airportwithout my wallet and without
seeing the wallet that wasthere.
So
Speaker 3 (07:27):
did, I mean, they have to check the wallet to see
if your name is on the stuff andthen tell you no, that's not
your wallet.
Right?
Yes.
Speaker (07:36):
I would assume.
Okay.
Except for the, is that whatthey
Speaker 3 (07:38):
did when they don't came back and said, we don't
have your wallet?
Speaker (07:42):
No.
No, because they're not thatnobody, nobody there looked,
nobody there looked for mywallet.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Like, stop fucking playing with your hair.
Can't.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker (07:53):
Can't.
'cause it's so pretty until longnow.
Yeah.
They, you fill out a form, theytake all this stuff and
apparently they put it in alocked up vault like Fort Knox
and then they look at your formand try to match it up with the
wallet.
'cause I did describe thewallet.
I'm like, it's.
Brown and leather.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So how do you know that they did not check the
inside of your wallet to matchup your name?
I don't.
Speaker (08:18):
I don't.
I'm just, I'm just angry.
And did you
Speaker 3 (08:21):
call, did you call Avis?
Speaker (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I called Avis again and they'relike, well, the way that you get
your stuff back is, uh, you fillout the form.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I mean, after that, like after you talked to the
people at Avis?
Speaker (08:35):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Okay.
Speaker (08:37):
Yeah, I was like, can you just explain to me why I
can't.
Can you just send me a picture?
Like, I don't even have to bethere if you think I'm gonna
snag the wallet.
I just, they're like, we, wedon't have it.
It goes to a differentdepartment.
Can I speak to that department?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
May I speak to that department?
Speaker (08:53):
They were like, no, they're, this isn't a department
that talks to the public.
I was like, okay, well you guyshave my wallet and wouldn't you
like to.
Wouldn't you feel some sort ofjob satisfaction if you were
able to return my wallet becauseI am taking your parents to
Raleigh tomorrow and I need torent a car, which I can't do
(09:16):
without my fucking wallet.
So
Speaker 3 (09:19):
maybe, maybe it's time to move to the next step.
I've given up.
I've given up.
They can keep my wallet.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
Like it's, they're not, I'llfind your wallet and it, it
might not give, it might notreally be your wallet.
Speaker (09:32):
It might not, it might not.
Like I have to, so I have toaccept the fact that maybe I
did, maybe I threw my walletaway, which is what I always
think when I can't findsomething.
I've obviously thrown it in thetrash.
Maybe that is what happened.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But now, but here's the good news is mommy and daddy
are old enough to rent cars.
Yeah.
So is David.
Oh, okay.
David's gonna be there too.
Yeah.
Um, I'm sad I'm not going.
Speaker (09:58):
Also, Becca picture this, Becca, have you met my mom
and dad?
Yes.
Oh yeah.
At our anniversary party.
These two people need to getthrough airport security
Speaker 3 (10:09):
and they're cute.
They're cute.
Speaker (10:11):
The last time I took Nita through airport security,
she just checked her purse onher shoulder and strolled right
on through the metal detector.
They were like, ma'am, awesome.
She said, what?
My vape's in here.
I can't leave this.
She's like, I'm not, no, shedidn't.
I'm sorry.
Just a cute, wrong mouse.
She's like, oh, I'm just a teenylittle bird.
So David has to get, uh, Nitaand Jumbo through security and
(10:36):
himself and himself.
Right.
I can't imagine it going well.
You
Speaker 2 (10:42):
know?
At least, at least they're ingood hands.
So,
Speaker 3 (10:44):
back to the wallet.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes.
Wallet.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's gone.
You need to start the process ofcanceling.
I hope you canceled shit in italready.
Speaker (10:54):
Well, I just monitored my credit cards, so this is why
I think that my wallet is stuckat at Avis because nobody.
Is using these like it hasn'tbeen stolen, move
Speaker 3 (11:04):
past Avis.
It's time to move past Avis.
Speaker (11:07):
I know, I know, I know.
Um, maybe call them one more
Speaker 3 (11:11):
time and just ask for another manager.
Speaker (11:14):
Is Mr.
Avis there
Speaker 3 (11:16):
or ask them for detail?
Like they have to tell you whattheir pro like, okay.
I filled out the fucking form.
I get it.
I filled out the fucking form.
What happens with that?
Did someone physically open thewallet and check to see if my
name was in it?
I feel like that's really whatyou need to know.
Like I don't wanna know ifsomeone looked at the
description of it andmisinterpreted it.
(11:37):
I want to know that someoneopened the wallet and made sure
my name wasn't in it like youshould, and I'm not getting off
the phone until someone confirmsthat.
That's all I need to confirm.
That's it.
That's it.
Order a new driver's license,start ordering new shit.
Speaker (11:54):
I, well, the first thing I did was ordered a new
wallet.
Well, of course.
Why?
When I ordered,
Speaker 5 (12:02):
when I ordered so excited,
Speaker (12:05):
when I ordered a new wallet, I was like, well, this
doesn't match any of my otherpurses.
I have to order a new purse.
I have to get a new purse.
And
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I was like, oh.
And they have a sunglass case.
That matches.
Yeah, I should get that too.
Why, why not?
That matches this wallet.
Mm-hmm.
But I did that is lose, I didn'tact.
I know where my wallet is.
It's, I know where, where mywallet is.
It's, but I'm gonna order thiscoordinating set of shit.
This it
Speaker (12:35):
was, and as, as I was doing it, I was like, well this
is.
Seems like a lot of money toreplace a wallet.
And then I was like, oh, youknow what I saw the other day?
I saw this gorgeous Mark Jacobspurse.
I was like, I'm gonna get that.
I don't even know who
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Mark Jacobs is.
Speaker (12:51):
He makes purses.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
He makes purses.
Speaker (12:53):
Is he friends
Speaker 3 (12:54):
with Michael Coors?
Yes.
So like a
Speaker 4 (12:56):
neighbors.
That's
Speaker (12:58):
cute.
Yeah.
That's cute.
They hang out.
They were actually in cahootsand then yeah, shit went bad.
So now they're like rivalsinstead of cahooting.
I'm.
Rebelling against
Speaker 3 (13:09):
purses Currently.
I don't understand what you'vesaid.
My, the, my last purse purchasewas, uh, 8 99 from Amazon, and
it's literally the one of thebest purses I've ever owned.
Speaker (13:23):
I here.
Well, here's how I ended uplosing my wallet, because
Speaker 3 (13:28):
God, I'm sick of this fucking wallet already.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I switched purses for the cruise and
Speaker (13:34):
then couldn't keep track of everything.
Like they were just, it was justtoo much.
It was, it wasn't in the rightplace.
Lot like the, that's a lot.
Pockets were wrong.
Um, anyway, so, uh, so, so yeah.
Um, also before I drove out tothe airport, I went to the
psychiatrist and she agreed thatI have a attention deficit
(13:58):
hyperactivity disorder, newpsychiatrist.
So I went through all thequestions.
She's like, do you have troublesitting still?
I'm like, no, that's the onlyone I don't have.
She's like, I'm like, I can sitstill fairly easily as I shake
my leg right now, but nice lady.
Refilled my prescription and Ileft that at home.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You guys, you're doing great.
Yeah, you're doing awesome.
Great.
Yeah, no, it's all good.
It's all good.
Do we just wanna get up andleave for Europe?
Yeah.
I've made this proposition tomom so many times where anything
that frustrates me now, I justam like, listen, we are too sad.
We could be in Paris in a fourstory club right now.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Ooh.
And we wanna, I'm sure that'swhere I wanna be.
I'd like to be a Paris.
I'm not sure about the The club.
It's very loud.
Becca.
Becca.
We have a lot of ears on you.
You could go to the club andjust come home and tell us how
it was.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'll probably go once and then be like, I'm terrified.
Never again.
Yeah.
I mean that's con Everybodyhates me.
I left.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I mean, Becca, we'll go.
Speaker (15:07):
We'll go, but we're gonna be like this the whole
time.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Or super drunk that you'll have to babysit.
'cause that's the only way I'llbe able to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Honestly.
That would be so much fun.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I mean.
Where is Sarah?
She fell down the steps again.
Fuck.
Four stories.
She fell down.
Three of'em just bounced off thewall.
Story went down.
The other one, I'm gonna storybounced off the wall and down
the other one.
Speaker (15:35):
Um, also in positive news, after today, uh, we're
gonna start, we're gonna starttalking about a book by Kristen
Neff, I think.
Mm-hmm.
Called, uh, Self-Compassion.
Sarah, we need to read thisbefore we go on our meditation
retreat.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Good.
Let me add that in.
I'm just not just gonna stopsleeping.
It's really the only way.
You have a lot going on.
I can do it
Speaker (16:05):
there.
There there is, there's manychapters in this book that are,
that are sort of geared formaybe, maybe you don't have to
do it.
You don't have to do everythingall at once.
I don't.
Here's my
Speaker 3 (16:19):
problem.
Um, someone needs to help mefigure out what I do need to do
then.
'cause I kind of need to makesome extra money.
Speaker (16:30):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I kind of need to not leave you guys anymore.
Um.
The making the extra moneyactually takes like a lot of
fucking effort.
So especially in the beginning,which is where I am, and there's
lots of parts to that, like alot more than just typing up an
email here and there, or a posthere and there.
There's a lot going on.
My kid is 16 and learning how todrive still, and in the depths
(16:55):
of a soccer season, I have myreal job, which is actually.
Stupidly busy right now, so, soyeah, I do my real job.
I mean, I'm wake, I'm waking upat 5:00 AM I'm sitting in this
chair all of my time, except forwhen I need to do something for
Owen.
And then I go to bed betweenlike 11 and 12, and then I do it
(17:16):
all over again.
So I am well aware, speaking ofmental health, that I am not
doing myself any good, but
Speaker (17:22):
I Do you remember when were having this conversation
with me exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Know what to.
Do,
Speaker (17:31):
do you remember February and March where I was?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah.
Like I, I'm not sad.
I just, I mean, have a lot to doand I need to figure out a
better way to get it done.
That will work so well.
If there's anything I can do,um, I don't know.
(17:55):
Duplicate me.
I don't know.
Speaker (17:57):
Becca, I think we already talked about you being
able to genetically, what's itcalled?
What did they do?
Clone?
Yes, that's it.
Cloning.
Like Dottie, the sheep.
Was it Dotty?
Yeah.
I was just gonna say like thesheep.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
No,'cause I'm literally just my mom.
I already know how it works, soI can, I can get it going.
Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Is it absolutely accurate?
I'm sweating.
I'm, I'm sorry.
I don't know if anybody realizedwhat I just did.
I'm kind of sweating because Ihave my switch'cause it's pure
for once.
Um, so I have my sweatshirt onand I have a thermal long sleeve
shirt on under it.
So I was really cold, but nowI've drank the second cup of hot
coffee and I'm sweating and Idon't have a bra on.
(18:40):
So what I just did was I liftedmy boobs up.
And I put my shirt under the,
Speaker 2 (18:45):
that's what that I'm doing right now.
I'm, and I so much
Speaker 3 (18:48):
more, it feels so much better.
It
Speaker (18:50):
actually cooled me off a protective layer between we
went, uh, Becca, your mom and Iwent to school with a girl who
would store markers in that, inthat same spot.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's awesome.
Why?
Speaker (19:03):
Like, what?
I don't Why?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You never know.
You never know.
You've been there to carry themaround.
There's.
Yeah, I mean, carry them around.
She
Speaker 3 (19:11):
like, just'cause you're gonna need a fucking
marker.
Did she not have a purse?
I'm guessing, which is, orbackpack like was that what she
carried?
Did she throw a fuckingtextbooks under there too?
You have a lot of questions.
Hold on.
Lemme get my book out.
You have a lot of questions.
Just, I just, that's literallythe last place I would be like,
oh, well I have to carry this.
(19:31):
Where should I put it?
I don't know.
I have a pocket, I have abackpack, I have a purse, I have
boob.
No, I have under boob.
Speaker (19:38):
Okay, let me just stick her on in there.
This girl's nickname wasCaboodles too, so she also had
one of those.
We, we went on a, uh, went on anovernight trip and everyone's
got like their luggage andstuff, and she just comes with
the
Speaker 3 (19:53):
caboodle.
Caboodles love a caboodle.
I was like, is that a caboodle?
Do you know what?
When saying caboodle, do youremember those things?
So we had all these differentthings, I'm sure we do now, but
I don't pay attention.
That will curl your hair.
Do you remember the little nubthings that you wrapped your
hair around and then like Yes.
Popped it.
They looked like little pop-upthingies.
(20:14):
Yeah, they
Speaker (20:14):
looked like, uh, like washers, sort of.
Yeah.
And they were, they had likerubber, like neoprene or
something on it.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I forget what those are called.
Popup hair curls.
I don't know.
That's what like Google it.
I think it was my dream at thatpoint in my life to have a huge
ass caboodles just filled withthose things.
That makes sense.
And I don't know why.
'cause I never curled my hair.
Like my hair's never curled.
I'm trying to, I'm not sure whyI would want that.
Like
Speaker (20:43):
this beautiful blonde afro from that I mean thing.
'cause that's what it would do.
It would just super curlier
Speaker 3 (20:51):
hair.
It would, it would never be cutefor the main reason of, I can't
focus on shit that long.
And it was way worse back then.
So like I'd get two in and belike, fuck.
And then I would just begrabbing huge chunks and it, it
would just come out like my hairwould actually come out, I'm
pretty sure.
Anyway.
(21:12):
Love
Speaker (21:12):
it.
There you have it.
Um, there you have it.
Alright, we're gonna, we'regonna skip gastro story of the
week because I'm gonna tell abig one next week when we get
back from Raleigh and.
Kind of a shorter episode thisweek.
'cause I have to be downstairsin the lobby and also on a
meeting at eight o'clock.
So I have a couple of things.
I have two places at once and Ihaven't yet accepted.
(21:33):
I can't do it.
So, I mean, why, why would youaccept that?
Want to tell you guys about abook we were reading.
I have, I have my notes on myphone, so that's what I'm
looking at.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh, okay.
Um, I got a new phone.
I'm sorry.
I'm gonna hijack one more time.
I got it.
Yeah, yeah.
Got a new phone.
New fun, a new phone.
The company, the company givesme my phone, so they sent it to
me, shout out to our ITdepartment.
I opened a ticket like late onThursday and got my phone on
Friday, which is pretty fuckingawesome.
It's, and, and normally ourcompany's way behind on versions
(22:07):
or whatever they're called, butit's actually a 16, which I hear
from Owen.
The 17 is the latest, like it's,it's not too old.
Yeah.
Um, so I was happy with that.
What I'm not happy with is thefact that I am old now.
Can't just seamlessly slide intothe new phone like you would
think it's a lot easier thesedays.
You just do the backup thing,throw your shit, and like it
(22:28):
looked all normal.
I was like, great.
All my shit's there fantastic.
But every time I hit a fuckingapp, I have to log into
something and I, and it doesn'thave my password.
And then I had the workauthenticator thing and
everything with my work loggedme out and I, and I would go
into the authenticator.
And the authenticator would askme for to go to, would give me a
(22:52):
number to put into theauthenticator before I could log
into the authenticator.
And I was like, I don't, I can'tget into you to give you the
number.
I don't under two days.
Two days for me to figure itout.
And then I wondered like, why amoff track this week as far as
getting shit done?
'cause I spent so much fuckingtime and that's not even like a
(23:14):
quarter of the apps on my phone.
I have to figure out right now.
Every time I open something, I'mlike, fuck, we got the car
yesterday.
I was like, Owen, throw that onWaze.
Which by the way, my phone alsowill not connect to my Apple
CarPlay, so I'm fucking annoyed.
Um, and Owen goes to log intoWaze and he's like, uh, you, you
have to log in.
(23:34):
I was like, I don't my fuckingpassword.
So he's trying to, I'm like, Idon't, dude.
I don't know.
Throw the fucking fun out thewindow.
Just throw it out the window.
Speaker (23:42):
Fuck it.
It's extreme.
B, did you go to Google Maps?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah.
I mean, I had a map on my car,but I like the Waze.
I like listening to the Waze.
The map on my car sucks, so Ijust, it does.
I just like the ways and yeah.
So I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
So the challenges of being amiddle age, are we middle aged?
Speaker (24:05):
Yeah, we're beyond,
Speaker 3 (24:07):
yeah, a little.
That's what I meant.
Like I wasn't thinking that Iwas younger than middle aged.
Wondering if I've gone past it.
So being someone of the agethat's a little bit past middle,
things like this are gonnabecome a little more
challenging, I guess.
I'm like, I don't, anyway, Ilove my new phone though, and it
has new things on it that arereally fun.
Like this new thing, theplayground.
(24:29):
Do you know what the playgroundis?
No.
Let me show you.
It made this little thing forme.
I said, I said, draw a miniatureschnauzer.
Hey, by the way, I don't havetime to do fucking shit, but I
did this yesterday, draw aminiature schnauzer, a black
miniature schnauzer, and it didthat.
And then it Wait, it looks
Speaker (24:50):
like it looks like yours.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
It does.
And then that, that, that's wasbe a picture.
Me.
I don't know where I am, butyeah.
Do you work at a hot dog place?
I don't know, but it literally,it will just.
Describe an image and it'll makea cartoon.
I don't know.
And it has, and there's inviteson it.
I could do invites like evinvitees, but apple, apple
vices.
I dunno if that's anyone.
Apples.
(25:13):
Is that German?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Apple vices?
Apple vice.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Okay,
Speaker 4 (25:17):
carry on.
I was gonna say, so, um, you'rejust carry on, carry on my way.
With fun.
You're
Speaker (25:24):
holding up a great song.
You're holding up pictures onthis medium that is just for
ears.
If wanna see picture, it'll onthe
Speaker 5 (25:32):
pictures.
Speaker (25:33):
Go to the YouTubes.
Go to the YouTubes.
Do you guys wanna hear about theBurnout Society?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah.
'cause I have it and I really dowanna read it on top of the
other four.
Can you just hold, do you haveit near?
Can you hold it up?
Oh, I have all the books.
Actually.
It's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, includingthe one we're actually going to
read.
The Burnout Society.
It's a cute, I got it.
And I was like, Ooh, that'stiny.
I'll be able to get through thatin no time.
(26:00):
Haven't even fucking opened ityet.
Speaker (26:02):
I mean, when you open it, when you do get around to it
in a decade, um, yeah, you're,you will find that it is, uh.
He is, uh, small but dense,very, very packed with neuron.
A lot of neuro, neuro
Speaker 3 (26:17):
neuronal power.
Neuronal.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah.
Neuro, neuro neuronal.
I mean, I know the
Speaker 3 (26:22):
neuro, but I mean the, the anal at the end, it's
from the, it's from the ass partof the brain.
Shithead.
No,
Speaker 2 (26:29):
we can't do this.
It's, it's from the shank of
Speaker 3 (26:32):
the brain.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's so early.
Please don't make me laugh atanus jokes.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
It doesn't even say anal, it just ends with Al and I
felt like I turned it into Youjust filled in anal cool.
And just turned it into anal.
Speaker (26:46):
So I got the audio book and when I downloaded it, it
was, it was like two hours and20 minutes and I was like,
perfect, perfect.
Sweet.
Like this is like a drive to theairport and back.
I, I didn't make it like out ofmy neighborhood before.
I was like, wait a minute, I amgonna need to actually see these
(27:06):
words on a page because he, likethe guy reading it was saying a
lot of words and I was like, uhhuh.
Uhhuh.
Right, right.
Yeah.
Like, uh, society based on, um,germs and, and getting rid of
the other.
And, and then, and then there'sa lot of large words.
(27:27):
Otherness.
And I was like, okay.
But now that we're not worriedabout otherness, we're worried
about being the same aseverybody, like we're not, it
was, it was dense.
So what I did is when I need tolearn about something new these
days, I asked my friend Chad tohelp me.
He solid.
(27:47):
And that is where, is where Igot my information.
So I did, I did finish the restof it.
I didn't read it, but I didlisten to the rest of it and the
entire time.
I'm like, so what?
Oh wait,
Speaker 3 (27:58):
hold
Speaker (27:58):
on, hold on.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
The achievement subject stands free from any
external instance of domination,which is also known as Hershe
stands, right?
That's the kind of words thatare in, it's German.
Speaker (28:13):
This guy's German, so the original title was, was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Obviously German.
Yeah, I
Speaker 3 (28:21):
definitely did not think he was German.
Actually,
Speaker (28:24):
the original title of this book was Maite Shaft
Schnitzel Alweiss, which roughlytranslates Al.
No, not Anal Vice.
That's different.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm sorry.
I know I'm throwing us offtrack, but this is really doing
great things for my brain rightnow, like it's making me so
happy.
Anal vice
Speaker (28:48):
is something you find at a playground.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I feel like I'm in study hall again and I am with
my delirious friends and it'slike we just all rolled up and
we're like so
Speaker 3 (29:00):
tired and we dunno what the fuck is going on.
And Sarah keeps saying ain'told.
Speaker (29:05):
Stop saying anal anyway, like the crux, if you
will, of the book is about.
How we've moved from a, uh, moreauthoritarian society where
things are very prescriptive,like you will, you must, you,
should you do or not should.
You must.
These are, these are the rulesabout how you go from elementary
(29:26):
school to executive job and youhave to fulfill all of these
requirements along the way tothis performative uh, society
where there is so much pressureto always be the best and always
be.
Positive and always be happy,always be in shape, always be
like, but these are, these areinternal battles.
(29:47):
And it, it's about the fact thatwhen you place so much emphasis
on perfection and positivity,you don't leave any room for
mistakes or errors.
That everything becomes sort ofthis flat affect where nothing
is joyous and nothing is, youknow.
(30:08):
Celebratory.
It's just perfection,perfection, perfection,
perfection.
And the burnout part of that isthat you just get so tired of
chasing perfection andconstantly pretending that you,
you have performed at this, thispeak level that there's, you
just burn out like.
(30:30):
The way that he describesAttention Deficit Disorder, that
that sort of manifests later inlife is that there's so much, so
much happening all the time andeverything is just as important
as everything else becausenothing can be less important,
like.
Your job is important.
Your son is important.
Your new, uh, your new side gigis important.
(30:52):
Your health is important, yourmeditation is important, your
podcast is important.
If everything is important, thennothing has any joy in it.
Everything is just an urgentthing that needs to be done, and
you can't pick which one ofthese is more important, because
that then means that the otherstuff is not important.
It's like the,
Speaker 3 (31:12):
and I love, thank you.
I love how you brought me intoit and I dig that, dig that.
But it's the same thing thatI've not been thinking about.
Like it's the trade off.
Like you've, you, there's goingto be a trade off.
You can't, that cannot just be aflat line all the time.
You, there's gotta be a tradeoff somewhere.
And I've been really bad at.
(31:32):
Trading off.
So yes,
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I've been celebrating everything.
I have a little post-it note onmy bathroom that says you will
never, you're not gonna gothroughout life and be like,
man, I celebrated too much.
So literally, I cheer for myselfthis morning.
I got up and I was like, I wokeup at 6:00 AM I said, yay.
And then I got up and I concontinued.
(31:55):
Like that's been the only thingthat's been helping me because I
feel like everything isimportant.
So now I'm like just, oh, I didsomething.
Yay.
Okay, awesome.
And that immediately givingmyself a little yay and then
continuing on is great.
That's all I got.
Speaker (32:13):
But it's exactly the idea of the book is that we're,
we're so burned out as a societybecause we're constantly putting
so much pressure and when wecan't perform, when we can't do
stuff, then it's the appearanceof having done it.
Like then it just becomes allabout this like level flat and
there's really, it's really hardto come by any real.
(32:35):
Joy because the way that you,the way that you feel
accomplished is that you gothrough things that are
challenging and you do thingsthat are hard and you like, you
lose your wallet and then decideto buy a new purse and yeah,
this, this book ties so wellinto the self-compassion book
because Yeah, they are likeopposite sides of the spectrum.
(32:56):
This one is really.
This one is really aphilosophical book about the way
that, the way that society isset up and it's really deep and
it's really dense, and I reallyenjoyed it.
Um, kind of like, I like the,again, like I have been having
daily debates about Mel Robbinswith people and I, you know,
just to be clear, she's right.
(33:18):
Like Mel Robinson is right aboutmost of the shit she says.
Mm-hmm.
I just.
Don't like the way she says it.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah.
I was actually just listening toMark Batson this morning and,
um, him and Drew Bernie weretalking about woo woo shit and
manifestation and stuff, and,and my man Mark was like, yeah,
I'm about to eat a little bit ofhumble pie.
So they were talking about.
Manifestation.
But Mark Manson said the samething that I've been saying
forever.
(33:44):
Like it's not about laying onyour couch and being like, wow,
I wish I wasn't 800 pounds.
And then you lose weight.
Like you de pretty much need tobe in the thick of things.
You need to be in a challengeperiod.
And you need to, that's whenyour mindset kicks in.
Like, I can do this when you're,what's his nuts?
What's his name?
David Morgans.
Is that his name?
(34:05):
Joe Rogan?
No.
Um oh, Goggins.
Goggins.
We could talk about him anothertime, but he's like crazy.
Insane mindset.
Does like crazy shit that,anyway, when you're in the thick
of that, when you're running amarathon, when you're running
like.
Marathon's back to back andyou're running a hundred some
miles.
Like these are things thesewacko people do.
(34:28):
I'm sorry, not wacko.
They just, these, these arepeople have different interests
than me.
They're able to do shit thatthere's no way I could ever do.
Anyway, mark Manson was talkingabout the same thing.
It's not.
It's not just sit there, thinkabout something and you get it.
You have to put fucking effortinto it.
I'm sorry, I don't think that'swhere we were going with the Mel
(34:48):
Robbins thing, but that's what Ithought of.
No, like,
Speaker (34:51):
no, it's, again, it just comes back to the
fundamentals of how you, how youget through, uh, life and life.
Life is about challenges andlife isn't about performance.
Life is about figuring out whatyou want, what's important to
you.
What you value, and then makingsure that you are conscious and
(35:13):
aware of what you value and thatwhen you make a thousand tiny
decisions all day long thatyou're thinking about those
values.
Like, and that's what, likeburnout Society is more of,
there aren't, like everythingabout my values is geared
towards success is gearedtowards the positive.
(35:35):
You know, everything has to beperfect.
Everything has to be like, I canlook on the internet and see 18
examples.
I can see 14 Mel Robbins, whereshe just goes 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and
hops outta bed.
And I'm not in a place where Ican go 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and hop
outta bed because I amstruggling to keep breathing.
Like a lot of, a lot of what Ifeel about Mel Robbins is just
(35:58):
oversimplification.
Like, yeah, great.
I wish I could count to five andhop my ass out of bed, but.
The other stuff that she'stalking about is taking
responsibility and understandingthat if you want something
different, you have to takeaction.
You can't just sit around and belike, well, I wish.
Well, I wish.
But at the same time, the waythat you can get to a space
(36:18):
where you can count 5, 4, 3, 2,1, and hop out of bed is maybe
starting from a place ofself-compassion.
So we'll get more into that nextweek.
We're gonna go over part one ofthe, of the book next week.
Starting from that place ofself-compassion and being like,
Hey, yeah, you're laying on thecouch and you're 800 pounds, and
that really sucks and thatreally sucks.
(36:40):
And that has to be, this is nota fun thing for you.
And you know, you have to beable to look at it and be like,
yeah, there are certain reasonsand there are certain decisions
and there are certain paths thatled you to be laying on the
couch and weighing 800 pounds.
Um, none of a lot of those mightnot even be your fault, but.
What you can do is say, uh, youknow, self, you are, you are,
(37:03):
you are good, you are kind, you,you are, you are the things that
you value.
I like you so much that I'mgoing to take different actions
in order to put us on adifferent path.
Like it was, and I was listeningto this while I was running
around to the airport and to thepsychiatrist and then, you know,
(37:23):
doing a, a ton of other shit.
Like it is very hippie dippy incertain ways.
But if you can again, pull insome of the, the Mark Manson, if
you can pull in some of the, youknow, radical responsibility.
Yeah.
You need to forgive yourself forhow you got there.
You need to forgive yourself andhave some understanding that,
(37:44):
you know, this isn't where youwanna be.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
You also need to use that as a kick in the ass to get
moving.
Yeah.
Speaker (37:50):
Yeah.
I mean, that is the, that is thenext step that you can, like,
she gives you all thesestrategies for being like, okay,
you know, and one of them is.
You're not the only one.
Like don't.
What self-compassion kind ofhelps you do is stop spiraling.
Like don't sit on your couch andbe like, you're worthless.
You're, you deserve to be 800pounds because you made shitty
(38:12):
decisions.
You're a piece of shit who can'tdo anything.
Like, you have to a little bitof compassion for yourself and
be like, yeah, yeah, you fuckedit up.
You fucked it up.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
But that's the, and that's the responsibility part
of it too.
Like, yeah, here we go.
This is what I've been doing.
Obviously it's led to this.
It's not working, which I'm nothappy with.
Things gotta change.
So in order for things, excuseyou.
Speaker (38:35):
No, it's the chair.
My foot's on the chair.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
My foot's on the chair.
Shut up.
It's the chair.
Anyway, and I think we've saidit before and we'll continue to
say it.
All of these things that we readand all of these.
Little self-help things.
They're all small little piecesthat go into your overall
toolbox of things you canactually do.
And that's the point of all ofthis is not just to read them
(39:00):
and, and take them in, but it'sactually to put little things
into action every day.
And that's, that's what we'redoing.
And hopefully somebody out thereis listening to our ramblings
and putting something into playin their day.
Every day.
Just little small, tiny things.
'cause you know, I think welearned in atomic habits, those
little, little tiny things addup and make a big difference.
(39:23):
And that's how things change.
Yes, I agree.
I agree.
And the start of that isself-compassion.
Speaker (39:29):
Right?
It's, it's, it's also theunderstanding that it's that
like nothing is perfect, likeno.
Things you see on the internet,those people aren't perfect.
The human condition is one ofstruggle, and you are never
alone in those struggles.
Like everyone is suffering tosome extent.
(39:50):
Like, yeah, that's what it'sabout.
Tom Brady on occasion issuffering.
I mean, I'm not sure why or how,but he clearly is suffering.
He's worked
Speaker 3 (39:59):
his ass off to get what he got.
Like, I mean, it's not like hejust, yeah, he's got some
natural talent.
Obviously most of those guys do,but that also, I mean, there's a
reason that most professionalsports have psychologists on
their payroll have.
Mental health coaches becausejust mental health alone for
them is a huge challenge thatpeople don't pay attention to.
(40:22):
Yeah.
We, we look at these guys andwe're like, yeah, they're
fucking overpaid.
They're playing a fucking game.
But they're also, we don't seewhat's behind the scenes.
We don't see what they're, whatthey're doing.
They're.
Most of them are working theirfucking asses off.
And that's their struggle and weall have it.
And yeah, it's, it's kind ofhard to be like, oh yeah, I feel
bad for Tom Brady for all he'sput into it'cause he is got a
(40:42):
bazillion dollars.
But he didn't just wake up andsomeone threw money into his
account.
I mean, um, and one thing fromMark Manson this morning is a
strong person is someone whogets good at feeling bad.
Because we're all gonna feelbad.
(41:03):
It's life.
That's the way it is, and wehave to get good at it, which is
what we're doing with ourtoolbox.
Speaker (41:10):
Right, right.
Like you, the, the bigaccomplishments come from being
uncomfortable.
And that isn't, that isn't thatBurnout Society place of
everything is perfect.
Everything is perfect.
I'm nailing my workouts everyday.
I look amazing.
Like it comes from being like, Ido not wanna get up and do
anything today.
(41:31):
And then getting up and doing athing, like doing it.
Yeah.
And doing that stuff from aplace of caring about yourself.
Like, I care enough about myselfto be able to, to, to change
some of these things.
Like I care enough about themyself and I care enough about
the people around me because Ican, I can care about myself, I
(41:53):
can care about the people aroundme.
Um, it is like a hippie dippybook, but mm-hmm.
It does.
Like, that's a piece of, ofbeing able to, being able to.
Understand that yourcircumstances are not always the
same.
Like you're, you're able to tokind of change your, your
circumstances and change whereyou are.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
So much of my frontal lobe developed during this
conversation.
Sorry.
I was, I know it's absorbing.
I just we're back.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I love frontal.
Okay, I know that.
We're you gotta go Christine?
One quick story.
Took Owen to the Dr.
Fur's, uh, well visit and thedoctor gave him a little lecture
about how his frontal lobe isnot yet developed.
How his mom and dad, ours aredeveloped.
I could still question it, butours are developed and that's
why we ask him the questionsthat we do.
(42:43):
And it's not us being nosy orassholes, but it's us just
making sure that he has all theinformation that his frontal
lobe will eventually providehim.
And we're trying to help himwith that.
And I was like, I'm gonna hugyou before I leave because you
like the amount of times I'vesaid to Owen, this isn't there
yet.
I'm just trying to help you.
(43:03):
We're filling in the pieces.
Becky, yours is all my hair.
Speaking of the front though.
Yeah, yours, you're, you'realmost cooked.
You're almost cooked.
We'll say
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I've, I've felt it cooking and I've been noticing
things that I've not beennoticing before, and I'm like,
oh God.
Oh no, no.
I, I'm an adult.
Fuck.
I keep texting.
Yeah.
It's kind of gross.
I keep texting Liam being like,so I noticed this, and he's
like, it's happening.
Yeah, it's happening.
It's happening in real time.
And I said.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Growing up.
Look at our little Becca, lookat our little Becca all grown
up.
Um, I remember when she wasborn.
Yeah.
That's great.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I mean, I don't remember when you were born, but
I remember the first time I sawyou.
'cause I was like, oh my God.
That's, that's a, that's a,that's a Maggie and Tom baby.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I, I feel like I did a good
Speaker (43:51):
and you were fucking adorable.
Just, uh, for the record, I hada fully developed frontal lobe
when you were born.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
As today,
Speaker (44:01):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Were you uniform?
It was 2002.
I was almost there.
I was close to a full frontallobe.
H
Speaker (44:12):
but yeah.
Hilarious.
2002.
Wow.
I'm gonna pound my face off thedesk.
Um,
Speaker 3 (44:19):
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
God.
Do you guys wanna see a surprisepuppy?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Surprise puppy.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's the best kind of puppy.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Hi Mom.
No.
Speaker (44:32):
Yeah.
Hello.
It's like, nope.
No, I don't like this dog doesnot like podcasting.
No, I feel
Speaker 2 (44:39):
like she's sniffing.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I get to go cuddle my puppy now.
I was, what was happening therewas, I was trying to see if the
dog had a wiener.
'cause I didn't know if it was aboy or girl.
Same.
I was looking for nipples
Speaker 2 (44:49):
girl.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Because you'd be able to see the nipples faster than
you could see.
It's wean.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yes.
Uh, it's Jody's dog.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Shit.
Shut up.
She didn't have a wiener.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Dogs are, oh, hi.
Dogs are boys.
Everyone knows.
Yeah,
Speaker 3 (45:05):
exactly.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Ask your dad,
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Jesus.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Alright guys.
Uh, wish me, wish me luckgetting your, have fun, fun at
the executive fun thing
Speaker (45:15):
to jam.
It's an executive jam.
Jam on out.
Jam on out.
Right?
Space jam, yeah.
Is my walkout.
Music.
Turns out, even though I want itto be Joan Jet real bad.
I choose my lens.
I don't know.
It should be Renegade or ac.
CD.
C.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Vacuum in black.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
There you go.
Perfect.
Every time I hear that song, Ithink of you.
Right?
Not at all.
Every time I hear LFOI think ofyou.
Okay?
Yeah.
That is more summer girls.
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I love it.
Okay.
Funky,
Speaker 4 (45:50):
late, fresh, late, funky, fresh ones,
Speaker 3 (45:54):
something.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
All right.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Love you guys.
Bye.
Love you, bye.
Hello.
Welcome to the Mental FunnyBoat.
This is a podcast where weadvocate for mental health, uh,
awareness, mental wellness, andtaking a step back and kind of
focusing on what's important,which isn't current events.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah,
Speaker (00:19):
that's what I got for you guys.
I'm Christine.
With me, as always, is Garth, mysister Sarah.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Cool.
And for the life of me cannotthink of one Wayne's world quote
to say right now.
Fuck.
Party on Wayne.
There you go.
All right.
It's right.
Swing.
Yeah,
Speaker 2 (00:41):
that's all I could think of.
I was close.
I was close.
Speaker (00:44):
And Becca is also here.
Sarah, before you joined, Beccaand I were talking about what
might make the executive jamthat I'm attending this week.
More fun is if we all had likewalkup music, like baseball
players.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, for sure.
Speaker (01:00):
What would Iris be?
Bad Reputation by Joan Jett.
Wow.
Right.
Even though it, like none of itis true, like, like if I wanted
something that didn't representmy personality at all, it would
be bad reputation.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Is there a song about Stephen King and Token books?
Is that token, is that right?
Is that the.
Okay.
That is the guide.
Is there a song about people whoread those books?
Like, I feel like that should beyour song.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Like I want it to be Joan Jett.
Bad Reputation, but it's morelike Enya.
Like, do you remember Enya fromthe nineties?
Yeah.
Like just like flowy peoplepleasing music.
Like so non-confrontational.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
It's a very manalow, yeah.
Speaker (01:45):
Elevator music.
Yeah.
And who's the, who's
Speaker 3 (01:50):
the other fucking guy?
Kenny G.
Kenny G.
Oh my gosh.
You know this guy with a hair,
Speaker 2 (01:55):
a signature from Kenny G.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Oh, that's amazing.
Shocked at all.
Did your dad get that for you?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Told me.
Yeah.
He, I used to play the ax.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Fun
Speaker 2 (02:06):
you used to.
Sorry, Kenny G.
If you listen to the podcast, Ifailed you.
But I hope Kenny G listens tothe podcast.
Kenny G listens to the podcast.
Welcome.
I'm a big fan of board game.
Welcome, big fan.
Welcome.
Kenny.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
What board game?
What are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Kenny G has an incredible board game.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
Shut the fuck up.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, it's it's phenomenal.
It's so good.
I, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (02:27):
I must look this up on Amazon right now.
Yeah, I can't.
I have a gift card for Amazonbecause I've worked for my
company for 10 years and that'swhat I got.
Speaker (02:37):
You worked at the same company for, you've sold
railroad ties for 10 years.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Well see, that's the thing.
I've been here for 10 years, butI've changed jobs.
I've see, I, I've been in thisone, I'm on my fourth year for
this one, so that will breaksome sort of record.
But I mean, all the samecompany, all in the same area.
Place ish.
I started out inside sales.
I went to account manager andnow I'm in it, but I am the
(03:03):
support bitch for the salesgroup, so.
Is that what it says on
Speaker (03:09):
your business cards?
Speaker 3 (03:11):
That's what it should say.
Support pitch.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah.
I'm just thinking of a veryprofessional photo of you, and
it's like you just support
Speaker 3 (03:20):
pitch.
Uh, that's me.
Yay.
What am I looking up?
Oh, Kenny G.
Is board Kenny Cheap Board Game
Speaker 2 (03:28):
as a Gen Z.
Um, one of the things that wereally like to do is watch
people play video games andkeeping
Speaker 3 (03:36):
itsy Sorry, sorry, go ahead.
Yeah,
Speaker 2 (03:39):
yeah, that's, that sounds, that sounds about right.
And I watch, um, game Grumps.
They played a very, very funnyplay through of
Speaker 3 (03:49):
Wow, the
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Kenny G game.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I don't know.
$9 might be too much.
Speaker 2 (03:54):
No, it's a lifetime worth of memories.
I swear to you.
This game is so funny.
Like, well, it's in my cart.
It's iest events too.
It's so good.
Speaker (04:04):
Oh,
Speaker 2 (04:04):
alright.
My God.
Speaker (04:05):
Do you guys, do you guys wanna hear, um, do you guys
wanna hear Positive catch Cornertoday?
Yes.
So I, I had a very exciting dayafter having to pay the
attention deficit hyperactivitydisorder tax of losing my
wallet, misplacing my wallet.
I'm pretty sure I know where mywallet is, uh, at.
(04:26):
I'm, I'm 99% sure I left it inthe rental car because driving
back from my last business trip,I paid for gas, which would
indicate that I had my wallet.
In the rental car.
And then when I went to look forit two days later after being
home, there was no wallet.
So I then had to call Avis.
(04:49):
And when you call Avis, theymake you fill out a form, a lost
and found form, but they alsolist out all the shit that they
found.
And on the day that I lost mywallet, there's a wallet that
was found.
I was like, well, that seemspositive, right?
Mm-hmm.
So I fill out my form and thenlike a little bit later they
send me an email and say, we'resorry we haven't been able to
(05:10):
locate your wallet.
I'm like, bitch, it's rightthere, bitch.
It's right there.
I don't understand why you can'tmatch that missing wallet with
this one.
That was found like, and also myname is inside of it, and on the
form, I'm not understanding whyI can't have my wallet.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Are you 100% positive it's your wallet and no one else
lost their wallet?
No.
Okay.
Speaker (05:34):
No, no.
I mean, I'm, I'm going with likethe crime theory that all of the
evidence is circumstantial forsure.
But I feel like I have a prettystrong case.
Like if I was prosecuting this,I would definitely have gone to
the district attorney and beenlike, I think we're going to
take this guy to court.
We're.
Going forward.
So what I did was I drove out tothe airport earlier this week,
(05:58):
like before I had to be therefor this trip, and I questioned
the people at Avis.
Very
Speaker 2 (06:03):
fair, very fair.
Speaker (06:05):
I was like, Hey man, who works behind the counter and
who does not want me here?
I was like, this says that youguys found a wallet.
Can I see that wallet?
Can I just, you don't have togive it to me.
I just wanna look at it.
I just wanna look at it becauseI will feel better if I know
that it isn't mine.
He is like you, the policy isyou have to fill out the form.
(06:27):
I'm like, I've already filledout the form.
I've already filled out the formI filled and, and you've already
told me that you haven't foundmy wallet, but there's this
wallet and I am worried thatthis is my wallet and for some
reason you guys aren't able tomatch it with whatever.
And I.
Can I just see the wallet thatyou found?
(06:47):
And he was like, that's not howit works.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He said, that's not how it works.
Speaker (06:51):
Yeah.
He was like, this isn't, we havea, we have a way to do this.
I was like, well, do you havelike a box with the stuff in it?
Because what I would like you todo is just go to that box and
bring out the wallet.
And he was like, that's, he'slike, do you need a manager?
And I was like, you know what?
Yeah.
I'm so sorry.
I've reached the point in mylife where I would like.
(07:12):
To talk to your manager.
So I talked to the manager.
The manager comes out and he'slike, did you fill out the form?
Like it was a comedy special.
Did you fill out the form?
Anyway, I left the airportwithout my wallet and without
seeing the wallet that wasthere.
So
Speaker 3 (07:27):
did, I mean, they have to check the wallet to see
if your name is on the stuff andthen tell you no, that's not
your wallet.
Right?
Yes.
Speaker (07:36):
I would assume.
Okay.
Except for the, is that whatthey
Speaker 3 (07:38):
did when they don't came back and said, we don't
have your wallet?
Speaker (07:42):
No.
No, because they're not thatnobody, nobody there looked,
nobody there looked for mywallet.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Like, stop fucking playing with your hair.
Can't.
Okay, go ahead.
Speaker (07:53):
Can't.
'cause it's so pretty until longnow.
Yeah.
They, you fill out a form, theytake all this stuff and
apparently they put it in alocked up vault like Fort Knox
and then they look at your formand try to match it up with the
wallet.
'cause I did describe thewallet.
I'm like, it's.
Brown and leather.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
So how do you know that they did not check the
inside of your wallet to matchup your name?
I don't.
Speaker (08:18):
I don't.
I'm just, I'm just angry.
And did you
Speaker 3 (08:21):
call, did you call Avis?
Speaker (08:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I called Avis again and they'relike, well, the way that you get
your stuff back is, uh, you fillout the form.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
I mean, after that, like after you talked to the
people at Avis?
Speaker (08:35):
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Okay.
Speaker (08:37):
Yeah, I was like, can you just explain to me why I
can't.
Can you just send me a picture?
Like, I don't even have to bethere if you think I'm gonna
snag the wallet.
I just, they're like, we, wedon't have it.
It goes to a differentdepartment.
Can I speak to that department?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
May I speak to that department?
Speaker (08:53):
They were like, no, they're, this isn't a department
that talks to the public.
I was like, okay, well you guyshave my wallet and wouldn't you
like to.
Wouldn't you feel some sort ofjob satisfaction if you were
able to return my wallet becauseI am taking your parents to
Raleigh tomorrow and I need torent a car, which I can't do
(09:16):
without my fucking wallet.
So
Speaker 3 (09:19):
maybe, maybe it's time to move to the next step.
I've given up.
I've given up.
They can keep my wallet.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean.
Like it's, they're not, I'llfind your wallet and it, it
might not give, it might notreally be your wallet.
Speaker (09:32):
It might not, it might not.
Like I have to, so I have toaccept the fact that maybe I
did, maybe I threw my walletaway, which is what I always
think when I can't findsomething.
I've obviously thrown it in thetrash.
Maybe that is what happened.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
But now, but here's the good news is mommy and daddy
are old enough to rent cars.
Yeah.
So is David.
Oh, okay.
David's gonna be there too.
Yeah.
Um, I'm sad I'm not going.
Speaker (09:58):
Also, Becca picture this, Becca, have you met my mom
and dad?
Yes.
Oh yeah.
At our anniversary party.
These two people need to getthrough airport security
Speaker 3 (10:09):
and they're cute.
They're cute.
Speaker (10:11):
The last time I took Nita through airport security,
she just checked her purse onher shoulder and strolled right
on through the metal detector.
They were like, ma'am, awesome.
She said, what?
My vape's in here.
I can't leave this.
She's like, I'm not, no, shedidn't.
I'm sorry.
Just a cute, wrong mouse.
She's like, oh, I'm just a teenylittle bird.
So David has to get, uh, Nitaand Jumbo through security and
(10:36):
himself and himself.
Right.
I can't imagine it going well.
You
Speaker 2 (10:42):
know?
At least, at least they're ingood hands.
So,
Speaker 3 (10:44):
back to the wallet.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes.
Wallet.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It's gone.
You need to start the process ofcanceling.
I hope you canceled shit in italready.
Speaker (10:54):
Well, I just monitored my credit cards, so this is why
I think that my wallet is stuckat at Avis because nobody.
Is using these like it hasn'tbeen stolen, move
Speaker 3 (11:04):
past Avis.
It's time to move past Avis.
Speaker (11:07):
I know, I know, I know.
Um, maybe call them one more
Speaker 3 (11:11):
time and just ask for another manager.
Speaker (11:14):
Is Mr.
Avis there
Speaker 3 (11:16):
or ask them for detail?
Like they have to tell you whattheir pro like, okay.
I filled out the fucking form.
I get it.
I filled out the fucking form.
What happens with that?
Did someone physically open thewallet and check to see if my
name was in it?
I feel like that's really whatyou need to know.
Like I don't wanna know ifsomeone looked at the
description of it andmisinterpreted it.
(11:37):
I want to know that someoneopened the wallet and made sure
my name wasn't in it like youshould, and I'm not getting off
the phone until someone confirmsthat.
That's all I need to confirm.
That's it.
That's it.
Order a new driver's license,start ordering new shit.
Speaker (11:54):
I, well, the first thing I did was ordered a new
wallet.
Well, of course.
Why?
When I ordered,
Speaker 5 (12:02):
when I ordered so excited,
Speaker (12:05):
when I ordered a new wallet, I was like, well, this
doesn't match any of my otherpurses.
I have to order a new purse.
I have to get a new purse.
And
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I was like, oh.
And they have a sunglass case.
That matches.
Yeah, I should get that too.
Why, why not?
That matches this wallet.
Mm-hmm.
But I did that is lose, I didn'tact.
I know where my wallet is.
It's, I know where, where mywallet is.
It's, but I'm gonna order thiscoordinating set of shit.
This it
Speaker (12:35):
was, and as, as I was doing it, I was like, well this
is.
Seems like a lot of money toreplace a wallet.
And then I was like, oh, youknow what I saw the other day?
I saw this gorgeous Mark Jacobspurse.
I was like, I'm gonna get that.
I don't even know who
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Mark Jacobs is.
Speaker (12:51):
He makes purses.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
He makes purses.
Speaker (12:53):
Is he friends
Speaker 3 (12:54):
with Michael Coors?
Yes.
So like a
Speaker 4 (12:56):
neighbors.
That's
Speaker (12:58):
cute.
Yeah.
That's cute.
They hang out.
They were actually in cahootsand then yeah, shit went bad.
So now they're like rivalsinstead of cahooting.
I'm.
Rebelling against
Speaker 3 (13:09):
purses Currently.
I don't understand what you'vesaid.
My, the, my last purse purchasewas, uh, 8 99 from Amazon, and
it's literally the one of thebest purses I've ever owned.
Speaker (13:23):
I here.
Well, here's how I ended uplosing my wallet, because
Speaker 3 (13:28):
God, I'm sick of this fucking wallet already.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
I switched purses for the cruise and
Speaker (13:34):
then couldn't keep track of everything.
Like they were just, it was justtoo much.
It was, it wasn't in the rightplace.
Lot like the, that's a lot.
Pockets were wrong.
Um, anyway, so, uh, so, so yeah.
Um, also before I drove out tothe airport, I went to the
psychiatrist and she agreed thatI have a attention deficit
(13:58):
hyperactivity disorder, newpsychiatrist.
So I went through all thequestions.
She's like, do you have troublesitting still?
I'm like, no, that's the onlyone I don't have.
She's like, I'm like, I can sitstill fairly easily as I shake
my leg right now, but nice lady.
Refilled my prescription and Ileft that at home.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
You guys, you're doing great.
Yeah, you're doing awesome.
Great.
Yeah, no, it's all good.
It's all good.
Do we just wanna get up andleave for Europe?
Yeah.
I've made this proposition tomom so many times where anything
that frustrates me now, I justam like, listen, we are too sad.
We could be in Paris in a fourstory club right now.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Ooh.
And we wanna, I'm sure that'swhere I wanna be.
I'd like to be a Paris.
I'm not sure about the The club.
It's very loud.
Becca.
Becca.
We have a lot of ears on you.
You could go to the club andjust come home and tell us how
it was.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
I'll probably go once and then be like, I'm terrified.
Never again.
Yeah.
I mean that's con Everybodyhates me.
I left.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
I mean, Becca, we'll go.
Speaker (15:07):
We'll go, but we're gonna be like this the whole
time.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Or super drunk that you'll have to babysit.
'cause that's the only way I'llbe able to deal with it.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Honestly.
That would be so much fun.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
I mean.
Where is Sarah?
She fell down the steps again.
Fuck.
Four stories.
She fell down.
Three of'em just bounced off thewall.
Story went down.
The other one, I'm gonna storybounced off the wall and down
the other one.
Speaker (15:35):
Um, also in positive news, after today, uh, we're
gonna start, we're gonna starttalking about a book by Kristen
Neff, I think.
Mm-hmm.
Called, uh, Self-Compassion.
Sarah, we need to read thisbefore we go on our meditation
retreat.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Good.
Let me add that in.
I'm just not just gonna stopsleeping.
It's really the only way.
You have a lot going on.
I can do it
Speaker (16:05):
there.
There there is, there's manychapters in this book that are,
that are sort of geared formaybe, maybe you don't have to
do it.
You don't have to do everythingall at once.
I don't.
Here's my
Speaker 3 (16:19):
problem.
Um, someone needs to help mefigure out what I do need to do
then.
'cause I kind of need to makesome extra money.
Speaker (16:30):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
I kind of need to not leave you guys anymore.
Um.
The making the extra moneyactually takes like a lot of
fucking effort.
So especially in the beginning,which is where I am, and there's
lots of parts to that, like alot more than just typing up an
email here and there, or a posthere and there.
There's a lot going on.
My kid is 16 and learning how todrive still, and in the depths
(16:55):
of a soccer season, I have myreal job, which is actually.
Stupidly busy right now, so, soyeah, I do my real job.
I mean, I'm wake, I'm waking upat 5:00 AM I'm sitting in this
chair all of my time, except forwhen I need to do something for
Owen.
And then I go to bed betweenlike 11 and 12, and then I do it
(17:16):
all over again.
So I am well aware, speaking ofmental health, that I am not
doing myself any good, but
Speaker (17:22):
I Do you remember when were having this conversation
with me exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
Know what to.
Do,
Speaker (17:31):
do you remember February and March where I was?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah.
Like I, I'm not sad.
I just, I mean, have a lot to doand I need to figure out a
better way to get it done.
That will work so well.
If there's anything I can do,um, I don't know.
(17:55):
Duplicate me.
I don't know.
Speaker (17:57):
Becca, I think we already talked about you being
able to genetically, what's itcalled?
What did they do?
Clone?
Yes, that's it.
Cloning.
Like Dottie, the sheep.
Was it Dotty?
Yeah.
I was just gonna say like thesheep.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
No,'cause I'm literally just my mom.
I already know how it works, soI can, I can get it going.
Don't worry.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Is it absolutely accurate?
I'm sweating.
I'm, I'm sorry.
I don't know if anybody realizedwhat I just did.
I'm kind of sweating because Ihave my switch'cause it's pure
for once.
Um, so I have my sweatshirt onand I have a thermal long sleeve
shirt on under it.
So I was really cold, but nowI've drank the second cup of hot
coffee and I'm sweating and Idon't have a bra on.
(18:40):
So what I just did was I liftedmy boobs up.
And I put my shirt under the,
Speaker 2 (18:45):
that's what that I'm doing right now.
I'm, and I so much
Speaker 3 (18:48):
more, it feels so much better.
It
Speaker (18:50):
actually cooled me off a protective layer between we
went, uh, Becca, your mom and Iwent to school with a girl who
would store markers in that, inthat same spot.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
That's awesome.
Why?
Speaker (19:03):
Like, what?
I don't Why?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You never know.
You never know.
You've been there to carry themaround.
There's.
Yeah, I mean, carry them around.
She
Speaker 3 (19:11):
like, just'cause you're gonna need a fucking
marker.
Did she not have a purse?
I'm guessing, which is, orbackpack like was that what she
carried?
Did she throw a fuckingtextbooks under there too?
You have a lot of questions.
Hold on.
Lemme get my book out.
You have a lot of questions.
Just, I just, that's literallythe last place I would be like,
oh, well I have to carry this.
(19:31):
Where should I put it?
I don't know.
I have a pocket, I have abackpack, I have a purse, I have
boob.
No, I have under boob.
Speaker (19:38):
Okay, let me just stick her on in there.
This girl's nickname wasCaboodles too, so she also had
one of those.
We, we went on a, uh, went on anovernight trip and everyone's
got like their luggage andstuff, and she just comes with
the
Speaker 3 (19:53):
caboodle.
Caboodles love a caboodle.
I was like, is that a caboodle?
Do you know what?
When saying caboodle, do youremember those things?
So we had all these differentthings, I'm sure we do now, but
I don't pay attention.
That will curl your hair.
Do you remember the little nubthings that you wrapped your
hair around and then like Yes.
Popped it.
They looked like little pop-upthingies.
(20:14):
Yeah, they
Speaker (20:14):
looked like, uh, like washers, sort of.
Yeah.
And they were, they had likerubber, like neoprene or
something on it.
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
I forget what those are called.
Popup hair curls.
I don't know.
That's what like Google it.
I think it was my dream at thatpoint in my life to have a huge
ass caboodles just filled withthose things.
That makes sense.
And I don't know why.
'cause I never curled my hair.
Like my hair's never curled.
I'm trying to, I'm not sure whyI would want that.
Like
Speaker (20:43):
this beautiful blonde afro from that I mean thing.
'cause that's what it would do.
It would just super curlier
Speaker 3 (20:51):
hair.
It would, it would never be cutefor the main reason of, I can't
focus on shit that long.
And it was way worse back then.
So like I'd get two in and belike, fuck.
And then I would just begrabbing huge chunks and it, it
would just come out like my hairwould actually come out, I'm
pretty sure.
Anyway.
(21:12):
Love
Speaker (21:12):
it.
There you have it.
Um, there you have it.
Alright, we're gonna, we'regonna skip gastro story of the
week because I'm gonna tell abig one next week when we get
back from Raleigh and.
Kind of a shorter episode thisweek.
'cause I have to be downstairsin the lobby and also on a
meeting at eight o'clock.
So I have a couple of things.
I have two places at once and Ihaven't yet accepted.
(21:33):
I can't do it.
So, I mean, why, why would youaccept that?
Want to tell you guys about abook we were reading.
I have, I have my notes on myphone, so that's what I'm
looking at.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Oh, okay.
Um, I got a new phone.
I'm sorry.
I'm gonna hijack one more time.
I got it.
Yeah, yeah.
Got a new phone.
New fun, a new phone.
The company, the company givesme my phone, so they sent it to
me, shout out to our ITdepartment.
I opened a ticket like late onThursday and got my phone on
Friday, which is pretty fuckingawesome.
It's, and, and normally ourcompany's way behind on versions
(22:07):
or whatever they're called, butit's actually a 16, which I hear
from Owen.
The 17 is the latest, like it's,it's not too old.
Yeah.
Um, so I was happy with that.
What I'm not happy with is thefact that I am old now.
Can't just seamlessly slide intothe new phone like you would
think it's a lot easier thesedays.
You just do the backup thing,throw your shit, and like it
(22:28):
looked all normal.
I was like, great.
All my shit's there fantastic.
But every time I hit a fuckingapp, I have to log into
something and I, and it doesn'thave my password.
And then I had the workauthenticator thing and
everything with my work loggedme out and I, and I would go
into the authenticator.
And the authenticator would askme for to go to, would give me a
(22:52):
number to put into theauthenticator before I could log
into the authenticator.
And I was like, I don't, I can'tget into you to give you the
number.
I don't under two days.
Two days for me to figure itout.
And then I wondered like, why amoff track this week as far as
getting shit done?
'cause I spent so much fuckingtime and that's not even like a
(23:14):
quarter of the apps on my phone.
I have to figure out right now.
Every time I open something, I'mlike, fuck, we got the car
yesterday.
I was like, Owen, throw that onWaze.
Which by the way, my phone alsowill not connect to my Apple
CarPlay, so I'm fucking annoyed.
Um, and Owen goes to log intoWaze and he's like, uh, you, you
have to log in.
(23:34):
I was like, I don't my fuckingpassword.
So he's trying to, I'm like, Idon't, dude.
I don't know.
Throw the fucking fun out thewindow.
Just throw it out the window.
Speaker (23:42):
Fuck it.
It's extreme.
B, did you go to Google Maps?
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah.
I mean, I had a map on my car,but I like the Waze.
I like listening to the Waze.
The map on my car sucks, so Ijust, it does.
I just like the ways and yeah.
So I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
So the challenges of being amiddle age, are we middle aged?
Speaker (24:05):
Yeah, we're beyond,
Speaker 3 (24:07):
yeah, a little.
That's what I meant.
Like I wasn't thinking that Iwas younger than middle aged.
Wondering if I've gone past it.
So being someone of the agethat's a little bit past middle,
things like this are gonnabecome a little more
challenging, I guess.
I'm like, I don't, anyway, Ilove my new phone though, and it
has new things on it that arereally fun.
Like this new thing, theplayground.
(24:29):
Do you know what the playgroundis?
No.
Let me show you.
It made this little thing forme.
I said, I said, draw a miniatureschnauzer.
Hey, by the way, I don't havetime to do fucking shit, but I
did this yesterday, draw aminiature schnauzer, a black
miniature schnauzer, and it didthat.
And then it Wait, it looks
Speaker (24:50):
like it looks like yours.
Speaker 3 (24:51):
It does.
And then that, that, that's wasbe a picture.
Me.
I don't know where I am, butyeah.
Do you work at a hot dog place?
I don't know, but it literally,it will just.
Describe an image and it'll makea cartoon.
I don't know.
And it has, and there's inviteson it.
I could do invites like evinvitees, but apple, apple
vices.
I dunno if that's anyone.
Apples.
(25:13):
Is that German?
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Apple vices?
Apple vice.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Okay,
Speaker 4 (25:17):
carry on.
I was gonna say, so, um, you'rejust carry on, carry on my way.
With fun.
You're
Speaker (25:24):
holding up a great song.
You're holding up pictures onthis medium that is just for
ears.
If wanna see picture, it'll onthe
Speaker 5 (25:32):
pictures.
Speaker (25:33):
Go to the YouTubes.
Go to the YouTubes.
Do you guys wanna hear about theBurnout Society?
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Yeah.
'cause I have it and I really dowanna read it on top of the
other four.
Can you just hold, do you haveit near?
Can you hold it up?
Oh, I have all the books.
Actually.
It's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, includingthe one we're actually going to
read.
The Burnout Society.
It's a cute, I got it.
And I was like, Ooh, that'stiny.
I'll be able to get through thatin no time.
(26:00):
Haven't even fucking opened ityet.
Speaker (26:02):
I mean, when you open it, when you do get around to it
in a decade, um, yeah, you're,you will find that it is, uh.
He is, uh, small but dense,very, very packed with neuron.
A lot of neuro, neuro
Speaker 3 (26:17):
neuronal power.
Neuronal.
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah.
Neuro, neuro neuronal.
I mean, I know the
Speaker 3 (26:22):
neuro, but I mean the, the anal at the end, it's
from the, it's from the ass partof the brain.
Shithead.
No,
Speaker 2 (26:29):
we can't do this.
It's, it's from the shank of
Speaker 3 (26:32):
the brain.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's so early.
Please don't make me laugh atanus jokes.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
It doesn't even say anal, it just ends with Al and I
felt like I turned it into Youjust filled in anal cool.
And just turned it into anal.
Speaker (26:46):
So I got the audio book and when I downloaded it, it
was, it was like two hours and20 minutes and I was like,
perfect, perfect.
Sweet.
Like this is like a drive to theairport and back.
I, I didn't make it like out ofmy neighborhood before.
I was like, wait a minute, I amgonna need to actually see these
(27:06):
words on a page because he, likethe guy reading it was saying a
lot of words and I was like, uhhuh.
Uhhuh.
Right, right.
Yeah.
Like, uh, society based on, um,germs and, and getting rid of
the other.
And, and then, and then there'sa lot of large words.
(27:27):
Otherness.
And I was like, okay.
But now that we're not worriedabout otherness, we're worried
about being the same aseverybody, like we're not, it
was, it was dense.
So what I did is when I need tolearn about something new these
days, I asked my friend Chad tohelp me.
He solid.
(27:47):
And that is where, is where Igot my information.
So I did, I did finish the restof it.
I didn't read it, but I didlisten to the rest of it and the
entire time.
I'm like, so what?
Oh wait,
Speaker 3 (27:58):
hold
Speaker (27:58):
on, hold on.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
The achievement subject stands free from any
external instance of domination,which is also known as Hershe
stands, right?
That's the kind of words thatare in, it's German.
Speaker (28:13):
This guy's German, so the original title was, was.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Obviously German.
Yeah, I
Speaker 3 (28:21):
definitely did not think he was German.
Actually,
Speaker (28:24):
the original title of this book was Maite Shaft
Schnitzel Alweiss, which roughlytranslates Al.
No, not Anal Vice.
That's different.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
I'm sorry.
I know I'm throwing us offtrack, but this is really doing
great things for my brain rightnow, like it's making me so
happy.
Anal vice
Speaker (28:48):
is something you find at a playground.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
I feel like I'm in study hall again and I am with
my delirious friends and it'slike we just all rolled up and
we're like so
Speaker 3 (29:00):
tired and we dunno what the fuck is going on.
And Sarah keeps saying ain'told.
Speaker (29:05):
Stop saying anal anyway, like the crux, if you
will, of the book is about.
How we've moved from a, uh, moreauthoritarian society where
things are very prescriptive,like you will, you must, you,
should you do or not should.
You must.
These are, these are the rulesabout how you go from elementary
(29:26):
school to executive job and youhave to fulfill all of these
requirements along the way tothis performative uh, society
where there is so much pressureto always be the best and always
be.
Positive and always be happy,always be in shape, always be
like, but these are, these areinternal battles.
(29:47):
And it, it's about the fact thatwhen you place so much emphasis
on perfection and positivity,you don't leave any room for
mistakes or errors.
That everything becomes sort ofthis flat affect where nothing
is joyous and nothing is, youknow.
(30:08):
Celebratory.
It's just perfection,perfection, perfection,
perfection.
And the burnout part of that isthat you just get so tired of
chasing perfection andconstantly pretending that you,
you have performed at this, thispeak level that there's, you
just burn out like.
(30:30):
The way that he describesAttention Deficit Disorder, that
that sort of manifests later inlife is that there's so much, so
much happening all the time andeverything is just as important
as everything else becausenothing can be less important,
like.
Your job is important.
Your son is important.
Your new, uh, your new side gigis important.
(30:52):
Your health is important, yourmeditation is important, your
podcast is important.
If everything is important, thennothing has any joy in it.
Everything is just an urgentthing that needs to be done, and
you can't pick which one ofthese is more important, because
that then means that the otherstuff is not important.
It's like the,
Speaker 3 (31:12):
and I love, thank you.
I love how you brought me intoit and I dig that, dig that.
But it's the same thing thatI've not been thinking about.
Like it's the trade off.
Like you've, you, there's goingto be a trade off.
You can't, that cannot just be aflat line all the time.
You, there's gotta be a tradeoff somewhere.
And I've been really bad at.
(31:32):
Trading off.
So yes,
Speaker 2 (31:35):
I've been celebrating everything.
I have a little post-it note onmy bathroom that says you will
never, you're not gonna gothroughout life and be like,
man, I celebrated too much.
So literally, I cheer for myselfthis morning.
I got up and I was like, I wokeup at 6:00 AM I said, yay.
And then I got up and I concontinued.
(31:55):
Like that's been the only thingthat's been helping me because I
feel like everything isimportant.
So now I'm like just, oh, I didsomething.
Yay.
Okay, awesome.
And that immediately givingmyself a little yay and then
continuing on is great.
That's all I got.
Speaker (32:13):
But it's exactly the idea of the book is that we're,
we're so burned out as a societybecause we're constantly putting
so much pressure and when wecan't perform, when we can't do
stuff, then it's the appearanceof having done it.
Like then it just becomes allabout this like level flat and
there's really, it's really hardto come by any real.
(32:35):
Joy because the way that you,the way that you feel
accomplished is that you gothrough things that are
challenging and you do thingsthat are hard and you like, you
lose your wallet and then decideto buy a new purse and yeah,
this, this book ties so wellinto the self-compassion book
because Yeah, they are likeopposite sides of the spectrum.
(32:56):
This one is really.
This one is really aphilosophical book about the way
that, the way that society isset up and it's really deep and
it's really dense, and I reallyenjoyed it.
Um, kind of like, I like the,again, like I have been having
daily debates about Mel Robbinswith people and I, you know,
just to be clear, she's right.
(33:18):
Like Mel Robinson is right aboutmost of the shit she says.
Mm-hmm.
I just.
Don't like the way she says it.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Yeah.
I was actually just listening toMark Batson this morning and,
um, him and Drew Bernie weretalking about woo woo shit and
manifestation and stuff, and,and my man Mark was like, yeah,
I'm about to eat a little bit ofhumble pie.
So they were talking about.
Manifestation.
But Mark Manson said the samething that I've been saying
forever.
(33:44):
Like it's not about laying onyour couch and being like, wow,
I wish I wasn't 800 pounds.
And then you lose weight.
Like you de pretty much need tobe in the thick of things.
You need to be in a challengeperiod.
And you need to, that's whenyour mindset kicks in.
Like, I can do this when you're,what's his nuts?
What's his name?
David Morgans.
Is that his name?
(34:05):
Joe Rogan?
No.
Um oh, Goggins.
Goggins.
We could talk about him anothertime, but he's like crazy.
Insane mindset.
Does like crazy shit that,anyway, when you're in the thick
of that, when you're running amarathon, when you're running
like.
Marathon's back to back andyou're running a hundred some
miles.
Like these are things thesewacko people do.
(34:28):
I'm sorry, not wacko.
They just, these, these arepeople have different interests
than me.
They're able to do shit thatthere's no way I could ever do.
Anyway, mark Manson was talkingabout the same thing.
It's not.
It's not just sit there, thinkabout something and you get it.
You have to put fucking effortinto it.
I'm sorry, I don't think that'swhere we were going with the Mel
(34:48):
Robbins thing, but that's what Ithought of.
No, like,
Speaker (34:51):
no, it's, again, it just comes back to the
fundamentals of how you, how youget through, uh, life and life.
Life is about challenges andlife isn't about performance.
Life is about figuring out whatyou want, what's important to
you.
What you value, and then makingsure that you are conscious and
(35:13):
aware of what you value and thatwhen you make a thousand tiny
decisions all day long thatyou're thinking about those
values.
Like, and that's what, likeburnout Society is more of,
there aren't, like everythingabout my values is geared
towards success is gearedtowards the positive.
(35:35):
You know, everything has to beperfect.
Everything has to be like, I canlook on the internet and see 18
examples.
I can see 14 Mel Robbins, whereshe just goes 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and
hops outta bed.
And I'm not in a place where Ican go 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 and hop
outta bed because I amstruggling to keep breathing.
Like a lot of, a lot of what Ifeel about Mel Robbins is just
(35:58):
oversimplification.
Like, yeah, great.
I wish I could count to five andhop my ass out of bed, but.
The other stuff that she'stalking about is taking
responsibility and understandingthat if you want something
different, you have to takeaction.
You can't just sit around and belike, well, I wish.
Well, I wish.
But at the same time, the waythat you can get to a space
(36:18):
where you can count 5, 4, 3, 2,1, and hop out of bed is maybe
starting from a place ofself-compassion.
So we'll get more into that nextweek.
We're gonna go over part one ofthe, of the book next week.
Starting from that place ofself-compassion and being like,
Hey, yeah, you're laying on thecouch and you're 800 pounds, and
that really sucks and thatreally sucks.
(36:40):
And that has to be, this is nota fun thing for you.
And you know, you have to beable to look at it and be like,
yeah, there are certain reasonsand there are certain decisions
and there are certain paths thatled you to be laying on the
couch and weighing 800 pounds.
Um, none of a lot of those mightnot even be your fault, but.
What you can do is say, uh, youknow, self, you are, you are,
(37:03):
you are good, you are kind, you,you are, you are the things that
you value.
I like you so much that I'mgoing to take different actions
in order to put us on adifferent path.
Like it was, and I was listeningto this while I was running
around to the airport and to thepsychiatrist and then, you know,
(37:23):
doing a, a ton of other shit.
Like it is very hippie dippy incertain ways.
But if you can again, pull insome of the, the Mark Manson, if
you can pull in some of the, youknow, radical responsibility.
Yeah.
You need to forgive yourself forhow you got there.
You need to forgive yourself andhave some understanding that,
(37:44):
you know, this isn't where youwanna be.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
You also need to use that as a kick in the ass to get
moving.
Yeah.
Speaker (37:50):
Yeah.
I mean, that is the, that is thenext step that you can, like,
she gives you all thesestrategies for being like, okay,
you know, and one of them is.
You're not the only one.
Like don't.
What self-compassion kind ofhelps you do is stop spiraling.
Like don't sit on your couch andbe like, you're worthless.
You're, you deserve to be 800pounds because you made shitty
(38:12):
decisions.
You're a piece of shit who can'tdo anything.
Like, you have to a little bitof compassion for yourself and
be like, yeah, yeah, you fuckedit up.
You fucked it up.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
But that's the, and that's the responsibility part
of it too.
Like, yeah, here we go.
This is what I've been doing.
Obviously it's led to this.
It's not working, which I'm nothappy with.
Things gotta change.
So in order for things, excuseyou.
Speaker (38:35):
No, it's the chair.
My foot's on the chair.
Speaker 3 (38:38):
My foot's on the chair.
Shut up.
It's the chair.
Anyway, and I think we've saidit before and we'll continue to
say it.
All of these things that we readand all of these.
Little self-help things.
They're all small little piecesthat go into your overall
toolbox of things you canactually do.
And that's the point of all ofthis is not just to read them
(39:00):
and, and take them in, but it'sactually to put little things
into action every day.
And that's, that's what we'redoing.
And hopefully somebody out thereis listening to our ramblings
and putting something into playin their day.
Every day.
Just little small, tiny things.
'cause you know, I think welearned in atomic habits, those
little, little tiny things addup and make a big difference.
(39:23):
And that's how things change.
Yes, I agree.
I agree.
And the start of that isself-compassion.
Speaker (39:29):
Right?
It's, it's, it's also theunderstanding that it's that
like nothing is perfect, likeno.
Things you see on the internet,those people aren't perfect.
The human condition is one ofstruggle, and you are never
alone in those struggles.
Like everyone is suffering tosome extent.
(39:50):
Like, yeah, that's what it'sabout.
Tom Brady on occasion issuffering.
I mean, I'm not sure why or how,but he clearly is suffering.
He's worked
Speaker 3 (39:59):
his ass off to get what he got.
Like, I mean, it's not like hejust, yeah, he's got some
natural talent.
Obviously most of those guys do,but that also, I mean, there's a
reason that most professionalsports have psychologists on
their payroll have.
Mental health coaches becausejust mental health alone for
them is a huge challenge thatpeople don't pay attention to.
(40:22):
Yeah.
We, we look at these guys andwe're like, yeah, they're
fucking overpaid.
They're playing a fucking game.
But they're also, we don't seewhat's behind the scenes.
We don't see what they're, whatthey're doing.
They're.
Most of them are working theirfucking asses off.
And that's their struggle and weall have it.
And yeah, it's, it's kind ofhard to be like, oh yeah, I feel
bad for Tom Brady for all he'sput into it'cause he is got a
(40:42):
bazillion dollars.
But he didn't just wake up andsomeone threw money into his
account.
I mean, um, and one thing fromMark Manson this morning is a
strong person is someone whogets good at feeling bad.
Because we're all gonna feelbad.
(41:03):
It's life.
That's the way it is, and wehave to get good at it, which is
what we're doing with ourtoolbox.
Speaker (41:10):
Right, right.
Like you, the, the bigaccomplishments come from being
uncomfortable.
And that isn't, that isn't thatBurnout Society place of
everything is perfect.
Everything is perfect.
I'm nailing my workouts everyday.
I look amazing.
Like it comes from being like, Ido not wanna get up and do
anything today.
(41:31):
And then getting up and doing athing, like doing it.
Yeah.
And doing that stuff from aplace of caring about yourself.
Like, I care enough about myselfto be able to, to, to change
some of these things.
Like I care enough about themyself and I care enough about
the people around me because Ican, I can care about myself, I
(41:53):
can care about the people aroundme.
Um, it is like a hippie dippybook, but mm-hmm.
It does.
Like, that's a piece of, ofbeing able to, being able to.
Understand that yourcircumstances are not always the
same.
Like you're, you're able to tokind of change your, your
circumstances and change whereyou are.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
So much of my frontal lobe developed during this
conversation.
Sorry.
I was, I know it's absorbing.
I just we're back.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
I love frontal.
Okay, I know that.
We're you gotta go Christine?
One quick story.
Took Owen to the Dr.
Fur's, uh, well visit and thedoctor gave him a little lecture
about how his frontal lobe isnot yet developed.
How his mom and dad, ours aredeveloped.
I could still question it, butours are developed and that's
why we ask him the questionsthat we do.
(42:43):
And it's not us being nosy orassholes, but it's us just
making sure that he has all theinformation that his frontal
lobe will eventually providehim.
And we're trying to help himwith that.
And I was like, I'm gonna hugyou before I leave because you
like the amount of times I'vesaid to Owen, this isn't there
yet.
I'm just trying to help you.
(43:03):
We're filling in the pieces.
Becky, yours is all my hair.
Speaking of the front though.
Yeah, yours, you're, you'realmost cooked.
You're almost cooked.
We'll say
Speaker 2 (43:10):
I've, I've felt it cooking and I've been noticing
things that I've not beennoticing before, and I'm like,
oh God.
Oh no, no.
I, I'm an adult.
Fuck.
I keep texting.
Yeah.
It's kind of gross.
I keep texting Liam being like,so I noticed this, and he's
like, it's happening.
Yeah, it's happening.
It's happening in real time.
And I said.
Speaker 4 (43:30):
Growing up.
Look at our little Becca, lookat our little Becca all grown
up.
Um, I remember when she wasborn.
Yeah.
That's great.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
I mean, I don't remember when you were born, but
I remember the first time I sawyou.
'cause I was like, oh my God.
That's, that's a, that's a,that's a Maggie and Tom baby.
Wow.
Speaker 2 (43:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:49):
Right.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
I, I feel like I did a good
Speaker (43:51):
and you were fucking adorable.
Just, uh, for the record, I hada fully developed frontal lobe
when you were born.
Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3 (44:01):
As today,
Speaker (44:01):
I believe.
Speaker 3 (44:03):
Were you uniform?
It was 2002.
I was almost there.
I was close to a full frontallobe.
H
Speaker (44:12):
but yeah.
Hilarious.
2002.
Wow.
I'm gonna pound my face off thedesk.
Um,
Speaker 3 (44:19):
yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:21):
God.
Do you guys wanna see a surprisepuppy?
Speaker 3 (44:25):
Surprise puppy.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
It's the best kind of puppy.
Speaker 5 (44:29):
Hi Mom.
No.
Speaker (44:32):
Yeah.
Hello.
It's like, nope.
No, I don't like this dog doesnot like podcasting.
No, I feel
Speaker 2 (44:39):
like she's sniffing.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
I get to go cuddle my puppy now.
I was, what was happening therewas, I was trying to see if the
dog had a wiener.
'cause I didn't know if it was aboy or girl.
Same.
I was looking for nipples
Speaker 2 (44:49):
girl.
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Because you'd be able to see the nipples faster than
you could see.
It's wean.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yes.
Uh, it's Jody's dog.
Speaker 3 (44:58):
Shit.
Shut up.
She didn't have a wiener.
Speaker 4 (45:00):
Dogs are, oh, hi.
Dogs are boys.
Everyone knows.
Yeah,
Speaker 3 (45:05):
exactly.
Speaker 4 (45:07):
Ask your dad,
Speaker 3 (45:08):
Jesus.
Speaker 4 (45:09):
Alright guys.
Uh, wish me, wish me luckgetting your, have fun, fun at
the executive fun thing
Speaker (45:15):
to jam.
It's an executive jam.
Jam on out.
Jam on out.
Right?
Space jam, yeah.
Is my walkout.
Music.
Turns out, even though I want itto be Joan Jet real bad.
I choose my lens.
I don't know.
It should be Renegade or ac.
CD.
C.
Speaker 3 (45:30):
Vacuum in black.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
There you go.
Perfect.
Every time I hear that song, Ithink of you.
Right?
Not at all.
Every time I hear LFOI think ofyou.
Okay?
Yeah.
That is more summer girls.
(45:50):
I love it.
Okay.
Funky,
Speaker 4 (45:50):
late, fresh, late, funky, fresh ones,
Speaker 3 (45:54):
something.
Speaker 4 (45:55):
All right.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Love you guys.
Bye.
Love you, bye.
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CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist
It’s 1996 in rural North Carolina, and an oddball crew makes history when they pull off America’s third largest cash heist. But it’s all downhill from there. Join host Johnny Knoxville as he unspools a wild and woolly tale about a group of regular ‘ol folks who risked it all for a chance at a better life. CrimeLess: Hillbilly Heist answers the question: what would you do with 17.3 million dollars? The answer includes diamond rings, mansions, velvet Elvis paintings, plus a run for the border, murder-for-hire-plots, and FBI busts.