Resounding Journey and Unshakable Faith with Summer Dey

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great. My guest today may looklike an everyday mom, wife, and
child of God, but she isfar from ordinary. She is a highly

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sought after international speaker, author,and success coach who has changed countless lives
with her powerful and transformative message ofshifting fear into faith. She has spoken
to and motive thousands of people onplatforms across the globe. She uses her
voice to ignite vision, passion,and purpose in her audience. She has

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been a successful entrepreneur for twenty plusyears and has worked with over twenty thousand
people on how to own the spotlight. She has spent decades on developing her
skills and been coached by some ofthe greatest motivational speakers on the planet,
including Pete Vargas, Pat Quinn,Danny Johnson, doctor Clarice Flute, Tamarillow,

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and Less Brown. Oh my goodness, Less Brown, that's my man.
I love him. All the otherones are awesome too, empowering women
to step out of fear and intothe spotlight, to use their story to
make a big impact for the kingdom. Please welcome, Summer Day. Welcome.

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You have such an amazing voice tolisten to. Hearing you share my
story, I was impressed with myselfwords, and I have to tell you
really quick. I actually got tobe I got to speak right before Less
Brown a couple of weeks ago,and when the guy was finishing, he
said, we could talk to youall day, but we got to bring
Less Brown to the stage. LessBrown, unmuted, showed his face and

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said, Manny, you give thisgirl some of my time because she's on
fire. Wow. Lest Brown gaveme his stage, and then I got
to talk to him later, andI asked him if he would come and
speak by at my event in September, and he said he'd be honored too.
So Les Brown's gonna come be atmy faith event in Septembers. Yeah,
I couldn't. I literally couldn't sleepfor days. I couldn't believe less

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Brown gave me his stage, andthen when he spoke after me, he
just sat and endorsed me as aspeaker, endorsed my speaking program, told
anybody if they want to learn tobe a speaker, it's like, don't
ask me, go learn from summer. It was as if God himself scripted
and came down and said, lessBrown, could you say this for summer?
And he did. He's he's sucha powerful speaker. I found him

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in my journey of like such powerlike it's it's it's like he said it,
like I need to do it.Yeah. Yeah, He's been an
inspiration for eighteen years, so havinggiven the stage was amazing. That's so
cool. You know what, whilewe're on the topic of public speaking,
I'm just going to stay here fora second because this is something that comes

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up very often with most professionals thatI work with, that I deal with,
and that I'm sure you encounter,is public speaking is nerves, is
dealing with a lot of that.And I know that you're a public speaking
coach. So why don't we juststart there right now in terms of maybe
you said, Les Brown said,listen to this girl if you want to
learn how to speak really well inpublic. So what are some of your

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pointers or ideas on that. Well, I love the part that you brought
up being nervous, So let mejust tell you a few things that I
believe. I actually believe that,deep down inside, no matter how shy
someone says they are, or hownervous or how oh my gosh, i'd
throw up if I had to havea microphone in my head, I actually
believe that everybody secretly wants to bea speaker because I believe that everybody has

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a story. I believe everybody hasa story. They's something that they've overcome.
They have pain and trauma that they'vewent through that if they could actually
use their voice to reach back andhelp the next person behind them, it
would transform not only the person buttheir life. You know, I can't
think of any pain that I've walkedthrough that if my voice and my story

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and someone could learn from what Iwent through and it could lessen their pain,
it could give them steps to helpthem get over that. I can't
think of anybody who wouldn't really wantto do that. So I actually feel
like everybody has a story and themwants to share it, but the reason
they don't, you know. SoI Bild has that joke. He says,

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you know, when survey in America, more people are afraid of speaking
than death. So he's like,when you're at a funeral, more people
would rather be in the casket thando the eulogy. Right, And I
don't think that's actually true, butlet's just say that it is the reason
that people are afraid, Right,It's really just lack of two things,
confidence and skill. And I reallybelieve like, if it's just skill like

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learning to cook, like if youcould bake a lasagna and follow a recipe,
you can follow the skills for speaking, if you can play tennis,
if you can play the piano,if you have something that you've been able
to learn to have someone teach you, you can learn to be a speaker.
It's just a matter of skills andbeing confident. And when you learn

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skills at anything, you become moreconfident. I'm sure you would agree that
that you probably are better at podcastingnow than when you started. Right,
the skills and what you've learned,how you've grown, And so that's what
I always say to people if they'reif they're just starting and they know they
want to be a speaker, Isay, it's just skills. Are you
willing to get up to learn,to fail, to get up to learn

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again, to maybe not be thebest speaker when you speak the first time,
to stumble through your words and learnand get better, just like any
other skill, except I think it'seven more valuable because this is the skill
that you learn that cannot only changeyour life, it can change the life
of the listener. And let's behonest, if you're in business public speaking

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and communication, I believe it's thenumber one most important skill for anybody when
people ask what can I do togrow my income. I was just speaking
at a real estate conference and Iwas literally standing in front of four millionaire
real estate investors. They were allmen, and I said, I'm going
to teach you the number one skillthat's going to help you in your business

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more than anything that these guys canpossibly teach you. And when they have
the microphone, they might misagree,but the number one skill is being a
powerful communicator. A powerful communicator isthe number one skill in business. It's
the number one skill for you're podcastingand you're not good as a communicator,

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your podcast isn't going to do verywell. If you're a real estate investor
and you're not good at communicating withpeople, your vision and everything, it's
not going to go really well.The people that do well in life and
do well in business and more onBuffett and Grant, Cardoan and all the
big names, they all agree thatit was public speaking and their communication that
is what has got them to wherethey are today. And to specifically address

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the nervous problem, this is whatI always say to people. In your
body, and I'm just gonna askyou. Let's just say, you ask
me, Michael, You're like,summary, I get too nervous. This
is what I would ask you.How does it feel in your body when
you're nervous? Tight? Chest right? Tight chest right? Uh huh?

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Anything else happened to me when you'renervous? Everybody has similarities a little bit
different. Let's say, shaky voice, sweaty palms, is your heart,
heart pounding, stomach, butterflies inthe stomach. Okay, And so then
I ask people what does it feellike in your body when you're excited?
And I'm talking like you're going upthe rollercoaster, or maybe you're you're about

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to jump out of a plane.You're just going to do something super thrilling.
How does it feel in your bodyphysically? Same symptom. Person I've
ever asked is like, oh,it's the same, heart pound, stomach,
handshaking, boys trembling. And Isaid, here's the thing, is
that your brain's a goal crushing machine. Now, I don't go into all
the science, but they've shown thatit's true that your brain is literally like

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designed to be in alignment with you. God designed your brain to be with
you, not against you. Andso if you're nervous, I teach my
clients just speak out loud. Iam excited, I am excited, tell
your body what you are. Excitedand nervous feels the same. And if
you're nervous, celebrate it. Thereason that you're nervous is not a bad

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thing. You're nervous because you care. You're nervous because it matters. You're
nervous because you want to make adifference. And the last thing to know
about being nervous is I've worked withsome of the greats now I haven't asked
less Brown this yet I'm going to. But we mentioned doctor Carius Fluid.
She's been speaking for fifty years.Sometimes she still gets nervous. Most of

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the great people out there still havelevels of nerves. They've just learned how
to step past that, how tomove past it. I tell people,
you've got to focus on your audience, not yourself. When you're focused on
being nervous, you're focused on yourself, and that's not why you're speaking.
You're speaking to change lives. Youneed to focus on the person, like
you just told me, focus onthe one. You got to focus on

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the one person sitting there whose lifeyou can transform and make them more important
than your nerves. I know thatyou and I have the same teacher,
because that's actually what I teach myPubL speaking classes as well. Is Yeah,
it's so funny. I use AndI don't know if you've heard this
story. I'm sure you have TonyRobbin's story with Barbara Streisand have you heard

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that story? Oh yeah, soso Barbara Streisand and this is from Tony
Robbins coaching that I that I tookthis story. So I just want to
give credit to him and his teamin that. So Tony Robbins was working
with Barbara streisand when she was dealingwith nerves with singing of course, right,
and and he was talking with herand learning about like what were you

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experiencing exactly what you asked me,and she said, you know my you
know, stomach hurts, palms aresweaty, you know all the stuff,
right, And he said, well, you know when you're when you're going
out there, why why do youthink you feel this way? And she
goes, you know, because Ireally want to perform at my best level,
right, I want to give myaudience the best performance, and so
I feel these nerves. So anyway, he was working with her, and

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as the story goes, he hadgone to a concert and a Bruce Springsteen
concert and he was backstage and hemeets with Bruce and he's talking with him
and he says, you know thatwas great. You really rocked the house.
You showed up, you did agreat job. You know. Let
me ask you, how did youfeel when you went out there? And
he literally verbatim goes through the samesymptoms that Barbara streisand had and he said,

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you know, Tony, I youknow, my my stomach hurts.
My palms are sweaty. I'm justsuper excited and stoked to rock the audience,
to give my audience, you know, what they came here for.
And so, you know, Tonygoes back to Barbara with this story of
like, hey, listen, youknow I just met with you know,
another performer just like you who wantsthe same outcome for their audience, is

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experiencing the same symptoms that you're experiencingwhen you're going out, except he's looking
at it as excitement, as like, I can't wait to get out there.
I'm super stoked. I'm excited toget out there and sing, and
you're looking at it going, ohmy goodness, this is holding me back,
and I'm scared and worried. Andso if we just shift that mindset
of nerves into excitement, which iswhat you're talking about, it unlocks so

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much. And you know, Iwas just working with a team member on
this. She's about to get alicense for insurance, and she was talking
about the stress and the overwhelm andeverything right, And what I was explaining
to her differently than this conversation interms of public speaking, was you know
that stress and that overwhelm is goodit's what you were just saying about the
nerves, right, It's good.It's because there's a reason why you want

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to pass the exam. There's wewere talking about her goals of like what
she wants to do with her licenseand how she wants to make a career
out of this, and we're talkingabout our goals, and I said,
that's really great, but let's shiftthat. Instead of pressure pushing you down,
let's put that as the wind atyour back, because that should be
driving you forward, not pulding youdown. Right, that's so good.

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I love it. I love it. It's the wind instead of the pressure.
It's the wind. I've never heardTony Robbins share that story. You
know, my previous background was twentyfive years of theater and so that that's
just kind of how I started it. As I would have actors that would
be really nervous to go on stageand I would just ask them, I'm
like, well, how are youfeeling? Were your body's lying to you?
And I think it started with likelittle kids and I was just like,

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oh, no, you're just excited. They're like I am. It's
a little bit easier to convince kidsof things than adults, but I also
worked with countless adults as well,and it was just always the same thing
across the board. And I alsotell people, when's another time that you
felt this way. Think about thethings that you've accomplished in your life,
the biggest things. You know,if it's a man, what was it

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like when you proposed to your wife, Like were you nervous? Think of
the times when you felt this way? And was it worth it? In
my life, all the really bigthings that I've accomplished, those big scary
goals, those moments when I've donesomething that others think it's just crazy.
You know, what was the priceon that, and what did it feel

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like in my body? And wasit worth it? Ever had anyone say
no, They're always like, ohmy gosh, you're right, you're right.
So I teach people when you startto feel that in your body,
you should celebrate it. You shouldgo, oh, my body already knows
how important this is to My bodyalready knows that this is a really big

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deal. And don't let fear,which is the voice of the enemy,
fear, which is a liar,make the decision for you. You decide
this is high stakes, this isawesome, and this is going to be
incredible, like Bruce Springsteen instead oflike Barbara going, no, I'm afraid,
because courage is just feeling a fear, right, and you step across

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the line anyway, you feel thefear and you pick up the microphone anyway
because you decide that the outcome isworth more to you, to the people
than the fear, and you don'tchoose to live your life by fear.
And I could talk for three daysabout fear. We're going to continue talking
about it. But yeah, andI love that too. I want to

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make sure that that's also her inthat it's about the outcome and the audience.
And you said that earlier about it'snot about us, right, it's
not about the public speaker. It'snot about the speaker. Yes, it's
about you and your preparation and makingsure that you bring value and that you
present yourself professionally and all that otherstuff. But as long as you're speaking
for your audience, as long asyou're there for them and to give to
them. It's like what you saidearlier about having a story to share to

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be able to help somebody else,is that your belief and that we're all
good, and we want to helpothers. If we're up on a stage
and we got a thousand people infront of us, if we're just there
to help one person and help thethousand people, we're going to be able
to get through it. And thenthe other piece about excitement and nerves that
I want to just share too,and you mentioned that you hadn't heard it
from Tony is the wonderful thing aboutpersonal development. And I know we're going

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to be going down this path,and that's why I want to kind of
frame this up for all of us. Is the wonderful thing about personal development.
What I've learned is that there's nothingnew about it really, right.
It's like, whether you're learning fromLes Brown or Tony or Grant Cardoon or
whoever it is that you're following today, or myself or you, right,
whatever we're teaching and helping you learnabout has been going on for hundreds of

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years, back to the Stoics.I mean, so many of these teachings
they're just told in different stories andare told in different ways, and they're
told through different journeys, but theyall have the same foundation. And to
me, that means that there's somuch truth and validity to it, and
that's what I love about it sogood. I want to button up one
thing really quick before we move on. Is you know I was talking about

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your brain proving you right, andeverybody knows that Henry Ford quote right.
Whether you think you can or thinkyou can't, you're right. If you
think you can't speak, then youwon't. You think you can be on
stage, then you won't. Andwhen I teach people in my speaking course
it's called master your voice. Thefirst thing that I start with is mastering

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your voice actually off stage. Iteach people to master your voice off and
on stage. And it starts with, we have to those limiting beliefs off
of you, and we have tolook at what you're speaking and what you're
saying every day, because you're goingto be right. What do you want
to be right about? And inmy speaking course, I take Henry Ford's
quote a step further and I say, whether you speak you can, or

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speak you can't, you're going tobe right. So what do you want
to be right about? Do youwant to be a speaker? Then start
declaring and saying I'm going to bea speaker. I have a powerful message
inside of me. Like I wasworking with this beautiful mom she lost twins,

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she had still born twins, andlike afraid to speak, and I
said, you have beautifully turned somethingtragic into this life and everyone needs to
know your story. I'm bawling myeyes out when she's just sharing sitting on
a couch. I said, youcannot let fear stop you. You've got
to start speaking your possibility because thatmessage so many women need to hear that

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right now. I'm in all overthis country. You're crying right now because
they've had miscarriacters, they're still born, and your voice is going to reach
them in a way. I can'tpeople get this whole like you gotta be
a Less Brown or you know,a Tony Robbins, or you can't be
a speaker. And that's just notthe case, especially in the world we
live in. You could start apodcast tomorrow and be a speaker. You
can go Facebook live or Instagram liveright now and be a speaker. You

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just need to make a decision andthen start speaking it. That's literally the
first thing I teach just you've gotto start speaking what you want to see
in your life. You've got tostart speaking and believing what's possible for you,
Because if I can't get you tobe in belief, it doesn't matter
what skills I give, You're goingto keep self sabotaging yourself. So it
has to start with how you speakoff stage and how you speak about yourself

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and how you see yourself. Sowe spend the whole first half just we
got to step into vision. Wegot to step into vision and what's possible,
and we got to retrain that mouthof yours. I love that and
I want to go into I love. First of all, I love button
hook. I haven't I've never heardbutton hook, but I totally I'm just
I understood what you meant and Ilove it. I still want to stay
here, actually because there's something elsethat you had said earlier, and then

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just coming back to it when you'resaying people think that they need to be
these professional speakers that they see isI'm very interested in your thought process or
the way that you help speakers understandabout judgment and comparing themselves to somebody's journey
that has been doing it for twentythirty years in their starting phase. Oh

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you just got me so excited withthose two questions. First of all,
if you're listening, I want youto write this down. Comparison is the
thief of joy. Comparison is thethief of joy. And if you're a
believer and you know that the joyof the Lord is your strength, comparison
sucks all your strength. You gotto stop comparing yourself. There's eight billion

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people on this planet almost unless Browndoesn't have time to serve them all.
I don't, Michael, certainly doesn't. You know, there's plenty of room
for you jump on in, andcomparison keeps stealing your joy. So you
got to knock that off. Anduh two, I ask my train of
thought on the first part of yourquestion. Well, yeah, we're talking
about with comparison and judgment and okay, fear of judgment. Oh, this

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is my favorite. I think thatthe fear of judgment is like a practical
joke that the enemy plays on us. I really do. And this is
what I've discovered, and I've askedthis the thousands of people. If people
are walking around upbraid of being judged, why because they've been judged before,
right, And they've been dged before, and they've been hurt before, and

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they've had people choose out of theirlife, especially in this cancel culture we
live in now, it's like,oh, I don't like you anymore by
people are blocking their families right.Well, I started asking the nicest people
I know. I started asking thislady, she's a chiropractor's if there's angels
that live among us, she's one. And I asked her, you know,
have you ever had anybody judge you? Have you ever had anyone choose

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out of life with you? Haveyou ever anyone who stopped talking to you?
And she said yeah, to allof them, and I was floored.
I'm like, wait a second,you are the nicest human I know.
How could somebody judge you? Thatmakes no sense? Then I ask
the next person. I ask thenext person. I have yet to find
anyone on this planet who hasn't beenjudged, And so most of us are

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walking around afraid of being judged.And it's gonna happen anyway, And so
it's like we're waking up afraid thatwill be hungry. Like you're you are
literally just gonna be hungry, whetheryou like it or not. There's really
not much you can do saying withjudgment, you are going to be judged.
No matter what you do, everyone'sin agreement. We're all judged one

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way or another. And so whywould you waste one more moment being afraid
of being judged, Because no matterwhat you do, you will be judged.
So why don't you just be you? Be the best version of you.
And some people aren't gonna like it. Your family might not like it,
right, your your friends might notlike it. But here's the deal
of the right people. They're gonnalove it. The right people are gonna

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love you. Your voice isn't foreveryone, but if you are at least
true to who you are, you'retrue to your voice, and you just
like take it off like a blanket. Man, this fear of judgment of
others, make a decision today,like except, oh, I'm gonna be
judged no matter what I do,Like I don't have to be afraid of
it. That's why I say it'sa joke. It's a practical joke.

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That's plead because it's gonna happen anyway. To stop being afraid of being
judged, the world leaves you justto step up and be you. Not
be anyone else, not compare yourself, just be you. You will be
the medicine to someone else's heart.And I won't, Michael, won't you

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will if you're so afraid to beyou because you're gonna be judged. No
one is ever gonna get that,and they're crying out for it and they're
desperate for it. So that's whyit's like we got to stop. I
and I teach and preach all thetime. I'm like, fear of judge
is the number one one that hasto just go right now. It's just
it cripples people in our society andit's going to happen no matter what.

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Waste of time. Yeah, andwhen when you're able to shed that fear,
that fear of the judgment, thenyou're able to speak your truth,
speak your voice, share your message. I want to, I do want
to take a step back now awayfrom this for a second. I don't
think we're going to go too faraway from it because this is like,
this is some juicy stuff, LikeI mean, we have two public speaking

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coaches on talking to each other likethis is amazing. So this is a
dream come true for both of us. I do want. And then the
other thing, I love that yousaid you have a theater background. Because
so do. I not as extensiveas you, but I do want to
go back into time with you alittle bit into this journey of finding your
voice because again, so many andsimilar to this team member yesterday. You

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know, I have her enrolled intoast Masters now and we're we're talking about
getting in front of an audience andsharing her story, her message and how
it relates to the community that sheserves for insurance. And she goes,
oh, I see why I needto do all this public speaking stuff,
but I can't speak like you.And I'm going, well, wait a
second. I've been practicing public speakingalmost my whole life, but specifically practicing

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public speaking in my message for sixyears straight on an almost daily basis,
if not every other day basis.So you can't compare your start to my
middle right, And so I'm veryinterested in your start. Where did you
start? Because I think when westart, when I share people my YouTube
video of my very first YouTube videoout there, and people see it,

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they're like, oh my goodness,the amount of ums, the lack of
confidence, the way I spoke isjust it's inspiring to them because they're going,
oh, okay, I don't haveto be perfect when I first step
on the stage, right, SoI'm interested in your journey and how you
got started and where you were,Like, what was it like, what's
a what's the beginning of summer daylook like? Oh? Mine is an

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interesting story. Not to go wayback when. But I started up performing
on stages when I was three,started in theater. I've been in over
one hundred and fifty productions. I'vedone tours in California. I performed in
Russia when I was seventeen, andLondon when I was nineteen. Sorry,
London when I was fourteen. NewYork when I was fourteen, and you

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know, then became a director,started directing theater. I've directed over one
hundred productions. It was like allI ever wanted to do in my life.
I'd imagined myself, you know,ninety five years old with a cane
still, you know, hobbling alongand directing, and it was just my
favorite thing ever. I owned myown company. I had three branches.

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It was super successful in LA.Started off just teaching kids, ended up
teaching all ages. Got to doa well you'll love this because you're theater
so lame as a rob during thattwenty fifth anniversary year for they released the
non amateur rights and in Los Angeles, as far as I know, I
was one of only two companies thatgot the non professional rights for LIMZ,

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and I was able to do itwith some equity performers and an EQUI stage
manager and a whole bunch of equityeligible people EMCs, and so my students
were able to be in a professionalversion of lam Is where it was,
you know, half my teenagers thatwere students, half of these professionals and
then these like Broadway stars. Imean, the guy who played Javert for
me was the original Marius, theoriginal national tour Areus came to play Javert

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for me for pennies on the dollarbecause it was on his bucket list,
and when it was he never hadthe chance before. So it was absolutely
incredible. And all I was nevergoing to do was not going to be
a speaker or a coach or anyof these plans. But you know,
God has different plans for us roomsometimes, and you know, I just
have to share that in August oftwenty nineteen, and it's important that you

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know it was August of twenty nineteenbecause we all know what happened in March
twenty twenty. So I was runningmy theater company. I was running it
for twelve years, and in Marchof twenty nineteen, I got called into
to a meeting with my board ofdirectors, and long story short, in
twenty two minutes, they took awayeverything I worked for my whole life.

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These were people that I love,the people that I trusted, that I
put on my board, and whenI showed up at that meeting, they
asked me to retire. I wasvery confused, and essentially at the end
of the day, in those twentytwo minutes, they said that according to
California law, they didn't have togive me any reason to vote me out,

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terminate me, and take everything,and that because of California law,
no reason would be given. Andyou can imagine, Michael, that I
sat there in absolute stunned silence formost of it, tears shooting down my
face, absolute confusion. It wasprobably the hardest twenty two minutes of my
whole life, even getting emotional sharingit right now, I don't even know

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how I drove home. You know. It was one of those like out
of body experiences you ever had,that where you're you're like looking down on
your own life and you feel likethis is not happening to me. I
mean, I stared in their facesand was like, this isn't real.
And then my brain is like,there's got to be all these things you
don't know, There's got to beall this information because this just doesn't make

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any sense. So that drew meinto a whole lot of depression, and
my whole life came to a screechinghall. And I feel like I'm supposed
to mention this, maybe because Imentioned a lady losing a baby, but
I had a very tragic miscarriage eventwo weeks before that. So when I
tell people I was in a seasonof losing everything. I had built a
really successful network marketing business that Iwas invited to go open nationally, open

(28:52):
countries that hadn't been open before,go overseas. I couldn't travel because physically
my body was not recover and thenthe company got stolen all at the same
time, the exact same time.And I've shared this with you because I
need the people listening to know thatif you're in a broken and you're in
a hurting and you're in a lostspace, or you've been betrayed. I

(29:15):
guarantee you, Michael, you havepeople listening that have been betrayed. I
want you to know that's part ofmy roots. When I share where I
am now, I need you tohear that just three and a half years
ago, I lost everything, andI mean I lost my identity. Like
I didn't know who summer day was, if I wasn't directing theater, if

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I wasn't at the theater rehearsals,you know, three to five days a
week with my kids. My kidswere growing up there as well. All
my friends were there. My wholelife, everything was there, and it
was gone, and I didn't knowwho to be. I had a completely
open calendar. I've never been firedin my whole life. I've never been

(29:57):
fired. I've never lost a job, I've never anything. And you know,
I went into really severe depression fora while, and it was beautiful.
I finally just one day I waslike, this is ridiculous. What
else am I going to do withmy life. Everyone's like, just open
another theater company. I'm like,Nope, not happening. I had an
attorney who's like, well, I'llsue them and get everything back, and

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you know what, by the graceof God. God gave me a vision
and he said no. He saidno. He showed me that the board
had let me off on an island, and he gave me a vision of
a sinking ship. And God justkept saying, you're welcome, and I
was actually really angry at him.I'm like, stap, He's like,
you're welcome, as if I needto be grateful for what happened. I'm
like, I'm not going to begrateful. This is the worst thing in

(30:41):
the world. I mean I talkedsome students for the whole twelve years from
like age five and now they're likeseventeen, their seniors, and it was
like they were ripped out of myarms. I saw these people every every
week and then they were gone.I mean, I lost an entire family,
and I was not grateful. Buthe kept saying you're welcome. And

(31:03):
then during that time, I finallywas like, well, what else do
I want to do with my life? And that whole thing of like people
would rather die than speak in public. I took my first public speaking course
as a freshman in high school andI loved it. So I was like,
you know what, Okay, I'mgoing to be a speaker. I'm
going to be a speaker. MaybeI'll be a coach. I think that's
a thing. I'm not sure.Maybe I'll be a trainer. And I
actually asked my husband, I said, can I go back to school?

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It's like, what does that mean? I go. I want to take
out a twenty five thousand dollars loanand for the next year, I want
to go to every live event ofevery great speaker, and I want to
study them, not for what's comingout in my other mouth, but as
a speaker. I want to trainmyself by watching them. Can I do
that? And he said yes?And I also shared this because when you
make big and bold decisions and you'rein the right direction, all of Heaven

(31:48):
will get behind you. Because whathappened the next day was I was crying
to a friend of mine about howI'm just lost and I don't know who
I am. And she's like,where are you going to be in two
weeks on these days? I said, I have no calendar, nothing,
I have nothing to do. Iwill be with you. Where are we
going to be? And she wasactually going to Shanda Sumner's event. Everybody

(32:12):
knows her. I didn't know whoshe was at the time, but it
was an entrepreneurial event for fifteen hundredand she said, I have a plus
one free ticket. Do you wantto go? And I said okay.
And it was two hours from myhouse and I had a timeshare stay out
in Palm Desert, so I didn'teven have to pay for a ticket.
We're staying there. And then whileI was there, I just you know,
networked and talked to people, andI ended up getting three more free
tickets to free events, and Iwas like, this is crazy. And

(32:35):
then right after that, I gotsomebody gave me a free ticket to a
grant card I own event. ThenI was in Las Vegas because my husband
was working there, and somebody said, will you still be here next week?
We're going to go pro with EricWarri, one of my favorite speakers.
I've got a free ticket. Whatit got to the point where I
couldn't pay to go to events.I've been doing personal development for like twenty
plus years. I never got afree ticket to event ever. I started

(32:58):
joking. I'm like, well,the great platt was Tony Robbins. You
mentioned it. I had never beento a Tony Robbins event. And so
I started to claric. I said, somebody's gonna give me free tickets to
Tony Robbins. I'm like, watchit happened. So I go to a
party right around New Year's and endedup meeting people whose son worked for Tony
Robbins, and I just stop rightnow, don't tell me, you can
get me a free ticket, andthey said, absolutely we can. He's

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going to be in Los Angeles inApril, and so I was gifted three
Tony Robbins ticket but it was Aprilof when, twenty twenty, and so
I was only able to go tosix events before COVID hit. But I
went to event after event after eventfor free, and I started going,
Okay, pretty sure God wants meto do this. And when COVID hit,

(33:44):
of course, I ended up havingthat moment of gratitude because I know
myself. I know how much Iloved my job, I loved my students,
and I would have been in themiddle of directing three shows, one
of them would have been my sixthtime directing when Miser Robins, and I
don't know how I would have survived. I don't know how I would have
survived because I wouldn't have believed thatit was only I would have believed it

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was only two weeks. I wouldhave been doing whatever it took to make
sure that those productions happened. Andbecause of what happened, and because God
was like, look, I heardthe conversations when you weren't around. Just
let this all go, Let itall go. Because of all of that,
when covid hit, I launched mycoaching program, When covid hit,
I launched as a speaker and madesix figures my first six months, instead

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of being in a business that wasgonna die no matter what I did,
and that I feel like you haveto hear that because God sees, and
here's the things that you don't.God knew covid was going to happen.
That's why he showed me like thisis a sinking ship, like you're on
an island. You're welcome, You'rewelcome, You're welcome, and so uh,

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I still didn't know what I wasdoing when I launched as a coach,
or just one of those free eventsI went, she was teaching like
you can be a coach. I'mlike, okay, is that what you
do? I think I will bea coach, and you mentioned Danny Johnson
in my bio. I went toher events for ten years. The first
time I went to her event,I said to my husband, you know,
in another life, I I wouldtrain like she does. I would

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speak for three days like I woulddo that in another life, because all
I'm going to do is theater,never going to do this. And that's
what's happened now in my life,which is just unreal. And I thought
my purpose was theater. I thoughtmy purpose was all those things, and
it was for a season, andnow I'm walking in something that's just more

(35:39):
glorious than I could have ever imagined, you know, in three short years.
You know, last year they didthe Great American Speak Off. I
don't know if you've heard about that, grant cardone argus, all of that.
They had over twenty seven thousand peopleapply. Now, mind you,
I did theater forever, but inthe speaking world, I'm very relatively new.

(35:59):
And twenty seven thousand people applied onehundred and fifty golden tickets and I
got one. I got into thesemi finals. I got to compete in
Miami. We did. We wereput through five different rounds and then cut
down to thirty, and I madeit into the thirty and then you got
to do your one minute sixty secondspeech in front of Grant Cardone, his
wife Stormy Wellington, and Pete Bargas, and it's just like American Idol,

(36:22):
Like you walk through the little blackcurtains and you step on this little stage
and then they give you feedback inthe moment and then they're like saying,
yes, yes, Pete Argus gaveme a standing ovation, and I'm just
sitting there. I'm like what doesthat mean? Though? And I got
into top twelve. I was oneof three women left, and I got
to be on the big stage anddo the last round the top twelve,

(36:43):
and then the voting happened and threemen got voted in, and then Grant
Cardon said, we don't feel abit about that, we have to take
a woman. And so I wasone of three left and the four that
they picked got to go speak atGrowth Con. Really big deal, and
they ended up picking a different women. But later on, like the producers
and stuff told me that it wasbetween her and I, and so like

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literally got I missed going by one, missed the finals by one, a
fifth place, and I was speakingagainst people that been speaking for thirty years,
twenty years, ten years, justblown away at every turn of what
was happening. And I say thatas well, is because when you'll get
into line, when you're calling,when you go all in, God will
show up and encourage you. Becausethat whole year I spent not sure if

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I should train speakers, not sureif I should raise up Kingdom voices.
I had just started my Master Voiceprogram, and I just kept getting beat
down by the enemy at every turn, and I just wasn't sure is this
what I should do? And Ijust kept praying, Lord, if you
want me to train speakers, youneed to make it really obvious for me

(37:52):
that this is what I'm supposed todo. Because I started off as a
relationship coach in my Fear into Faithprogram. I've coached hundreds of women,
and almost ninety percent of them whenthey get healed and they're walking in strong
faith and they're unstoppable, now theywant to be speakers. And so that's
how it happened. It was fromclient after clients. So I bede a
test it. I'm like, letme see if God can redeem twenty five

(38:14):
years of putting people on stages.Twenty thousand plus people I've put on stages
and never once said I have someonewho didn't go on stage. Even the
five year old that I held thegurden for fifteen minutes, I'm like,
you are not You're not taking meout of my one hundred percent record of
twenty five year career. And soI went to see could I do it?
Could I make it happen? Andthe three women I trained them via

(38:35):
zoom for six months and then theygot to speak live on my stage in
front of a couple hundred women,and they were brilliant. They were brilliant.
I had someone tell me this personwas better than the keynote that you
paid to be here, and shewas an introvert, she had not been
on stage before, And in thatmoment, I was like, Okay,
the skills are redeemed. I taughtpeople to be a character in limits or
whatever, but I can teach themsame skills, but just teach them to

(38:59):
be them. And you'll probably agreemost speakers out there could use just a
little bit more theater training. Theycould use a little bit more of the
charisma and the presentation styles. Andso that's what I've focused on is sort
of bridging those two worlds, andall year long, I'm like, should
I do this? Should I dothis? And I felt like God just

(39:19):
took me all the way to youknow, top number five, because he
was like, yes, you're good, you are good at this, and
you're a great teacher, so gojust merge the two together. And that's
why this year we've launched Kingdom Speakers. I'm really passionate, not just valeries.
I'm speakers, But you know,my heart's all Jesus all the time.
I really want to raise a powerfulkingdom, voices for the kingdom that

(39:43):
will go out in the marketplace andspeak boldly, but will also go preach
boldly. There's not a lot ofbold females, especially out in the speaking
world. You probably know it's becauseyou know, you know Tony, you
know less. If you if youask Google, like who's the greatest speaker
on the planet, you get thelist of the top one hundred ninety five
of them are men. If youask anyone, can you name five female

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speakers? I don't know if youcan, Michael, can you name five
female speakers? I mean I'd bepulling for strings. I mean, Maya
Angelou comes up, comes up rightaway. For me, it's like pretty
much no one can do it,and so my real purpose is women.
I'm like, women, we've gotto be represented in this industry, and

(40:28):
I don't know why it's been sojust kind of I call it the male
dominated sport, you know. Andeven in the Great American speak Off,
twelve left nine men right, veryunbalanced, and then the three voted in
all men. So I'm thinking there'ssome sort of thing where men men have
the court advantage, just like maybein a basketball game they've got the height
advantage. They've had a court advantagein the speaking world. So I'm passionate

(40:52):
about that as well. It's justhelping women to like find their voice and
you know, let's get some womenon that top one hundred. It was
a very long version of my storyof Liar. I absolutely love it,
and I think just hanging on thatlast piece about women and men is you
know, that's breaking down a lotof things that have been happening in society

(41:15):
for years and going all the waydown to the classroom of you know,
the boys in the class and thegirls in the class and how they're interacting
with the teacher and how the teacheris interacting with them. I don't really
I don't have enough research or knowledgeon the topic other than knowing it from
conversations like this to where yeah,it's it's easier for a boy to be

(41:37):
able to speak up in a classroom, and me being one of those outspoken
boys, I can attest to that. I have a daughter who's very shy
and very quiet, and she certainlywould be, and my wife is very
They're very similar, would be theones that you know are going to get
overlooked. And you know what,I can't speak to this. This is
a perfect example to what we're speakingabout here. To some extent. I

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have two daughters, Denise and Tenley, and Denise is just like my wife,
introverted, quiet, very smart,but introverted quiet, and the smart
part is very important in this conversation, not because they're my daughters, but
just because of the interaction with theteacher. And then we have Tenley,
who is two years younger, andshe's just like me. She's extroverted,

(42:20):
super voices her her thoughts and wantsto be in theater, wants to be
a singer. You know, it'sall about like being out there and in
front right and also very smart.Both had the same exact kindergarten teacher.
Both went through the same essentially curriculumin kindergarten, except Denise went through kindergarten

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during COVID, so it was alittle bit more virtual. It was.
It was a hybrid of virtual rightin her report card for Denise, they
rated on a scale from one tofour. On Denise's report cards, we
would see threes and fours, butwe would see it mostly a scattering of
threes the first couple of semesters intoleading into fours. And you know,
they're very studious. My wife's ateacher, so she's on top of them.

(43:05):
So this is why they're they're scoringso high as well as great genetics.
Hah. Okay. We go toTenley now who's in kindergarten presently,
and we have her meetings and she'sscoring fours from the onset. And when
I spoke with my wife about it, when this was with Denise, I
said, you know, why isn'tshe getting fours in these first couple semesters.
You know, she knows all thisstuff. And my wife was saying,

(43:28):
you know, well, you know, it's just part of like the
grading process, and they got todevelop and all this other stuff and watching
their development. So when I askedthe teacher, I said, you know,
I noticed that when Denise was atthis level, she was getting threes,
and I see that Tenley has fours. I said, I don't see
Tenley being any more advanced than Denisewas at this age. Right now,

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what do you see as the reasonwhy Tenley's scoring fours? And the teacher
looked at me and was like,you know, you bring up a really
great point, because Denise did knowthe material the same as Tenley. And
what she would say about Tenley isTenley could teach the class. And she
then kind of like took a stepback and said, you know, come
to think of it, Denise couldteach the class too, except Tenley always

(44:12):
puts her hand up and always speaksout and always shows that she knows the
answer, whereas Denise I'd have topull it out of her. And I
think that that's a personality thing betweenmy two daughters. But from what I've
observed in my life is that typicallyin the classroom settings that I've been in,
the boys speak up a lot moreand we do raise our hand,

(44:34):
and we are more apt to justshare our answer whether we're right or wrong,
going back to judgment, whether we'reright or wrong, versus the girls
in my classes, where they wouldbe more timid, they would be more
shy, they would wait for theteacher to call on them, and sometimes
they would get overlooked. And ifwe carry that on into our speaking lives,
well, who's the person that's goingto speak up for the organization or

(44:55):
for the team, or for thegroup that we're in. Well, the
guys not afraid to get judged orspeak up, and he'll just say,
hey, I'll do it. Whereasthe girl who might be in that group,
the girl who might be in thatgroup, who might know more or
have more knowledge, or be betterspoken or whatever, she's going to be
a little bit more timid. Becausethis is kind of like how we came

(45:15):
up together. This is just basedoff of my experience, not any research,
but it's good stuff. Like thewhole time, I'm like, oh
my gosh, I never thought aboutthat, And I'm thinking when I would
teach theater with groups of large children, I'm like, I feel like a
lot of times you're right about theboys volunteering and all of that stuff.
So something you don't know about meis I'm one of seven children. I

(45:38):
have six brothers, so I knowthat I'm not your average female. I
always make this joke. One ofthese days I get to say this to
Less Brown. Is that Less Brown, you know, talks about you got
to be hungry and hungry, right, And I tell people I had to
be hungry in my life because ifI wasn't hungry, I would go hungry.

(46:00):
Like if I wasn't grabbing food atthe table or you know, or
anything like, I wouldn't eat.And that's how my whole life was.
I was always very competitive, youknow, growing up fighting for everything,
and a family of seven kids andsix of them being boys. So that's
what I thought of when you weresaying that, I'm like, I wonder
if I just naturally spoke up andeverything a lot more just because of being

(46:21):
in that environment. So yeah,yeah, And we have these like social
cues of like, you know,if a boy is acting wild and crazy,
which which they do, right,it's like, well, he's a
boy, right. If a girlis acting wild and crazy, it's like,
hey, you got to tone itdown a little bit, you know,
relax calm down. And I dothis with my own kids, right,

(46:44):
Like I you know, Ttanley startsacting out and I'm like, Tenley,
calm down, relax. Meanwhile,her best friend, who's a boy,
comes over and he's all crazy andthe mother feels bad, and I'm
like, it's all right, it'shim, It's all good. And you
know, I'm doing this right,and I am away right. So this
is years of the social etiquette thatgets passed down, and I think that

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that is what leads to our femalespeakers, especially the ones that are in
our age group, who have gonethrough this, you know, for years,
and it's only starting to change somewhatnow. But I mean, I
speak with so many female entrepreneurs likeyourself that typically are the only female at
the table. Okay, I knowyou like this term. I want to
button hook two things. One,I want to make sure if you're a

(47:27):
man and you're listening, the worldneeds your voices too, just because I'm
so passionate about raising up women,that there are men that also you got
to kick fear in the pants aswell, and the world deserves to hear
your voice. So I want tomake sure that you hear that. And
too. I want to share aboutthe first event that I did, because
you wanted to hear my speaker journey, and I just wanted to share that

(47:50):
at my first two day event,I was terrified. I like that sick,
Like I was on the toilet whenand the hair and makeup people were
like wait for me, and Iwas so nervous. I'm so nervous because
well, most speakers, their firstevent is not three hundred people. Les
Brown's was not like all the greatsTony Robbins was not. And I'm going

(48:13):
to share how, how and whyit was so large. It's the most
amazing story of God redeeming my life. But I just want to share,
like I was so nervous and Iwas praying and like I know all the
techniques of like no I'm excited andcalming my own body down and my body
is like nope, you're not.And it was because the stakes were so
high, and I finally realized,I said, you know what I'm gonna

(48:35):
do. I'm just gonna go andbe me for like two days. And
I don't give a crud if allthese women just leave. I don't give
a credit if they judge me,like I just need to be meat.
And I told my husband I hadhad a vision speaking in front of thirty
thousand people. That's all the storyfor another time. And every time I
would see it, I'd see myselfgoing out and laying down on the stage,

(48:57):
laying down on the stage and tellingeverybody, I'm having a moment.
You need to just wait one second. I'm having a moment. You're freaking
out. I've had that vision.Okay, you just want to lay down,
you just want to lay down.I laid down and I told everybody
I have no idea what it tookfor me to get here. I'm having
a moment. Y'all need be quiet. I'm serious, I need you to

(49:17):
be quiet. I'm I'm breathing thisin. And if you want no funny
story, I did that in thefinal round for the speak Off and Grant
Curton hated it. And if youwatch the promo they're promoting season two,
they show me laying down and GregGurdon says, I don't know if she
was crazy, been crazy or courageous. I'm a little of bull, but

(49:40):
I've experienced in I've experienced that.Hearing that, I was like, I
was terrified and then something took over. I gave my permission. I gave
myself permission, like just just gobe you, and I did. I
laid down on stage. I startedmy first event laying down stage. My
husband's like, don't do it,don't do it, don't do it,
stumb don't do it. They lovedit. They ate it up. Second

(50:01):
day, I did it again fora different reason, just to make them
laugh. But I did. Iwas like, I'm just going to be
me and if they run out screamingwhatever, like I don't care. And
what happened was I was able whatyou said. Boys can be more crazy,
they can speak up and nobody judges. I mean I laid down on
the stage. I just did crazythings and they loved it. And that's

(50:22):
what I want to say to yourlisteners is when you step into being you,
even the introverts. The introverts loveme and I'm crazy and I'm loud
and I'm obnoxious, and they loveit because when you are all in on
being you, even if you're justan introvert, if you're all in on
being you, you give the peoplein the audience permission to be up to

(50:44):
even if they're not going to layon a stage and they think you're crazy.
There's something about, Wow, that'sa person that I'm watching, not
afraid, not afraid to be judged. And as you said judgment earlier,
everybody wants to be so courageous thatthey're not afraid to be judged. So
that's a little bit more. Becauseyou asked your speaking journey and what was
it like, and I'm like,well, no, actually I was terrified.

(51:06):
And first of all, I meanterrified. You had three hundred people
in the audience on a two dayevent, which is your first event.
I mean, that's just like amazing. You know that that was a big
deal. I now know at theright that all these mentors, Dandy Johnson,
Less Brown, all of them thatI know of, never had that
many people. Tony Robbins I knowfor sure did not. Yeah, it's

(51:28):
incredible how that happened. Yeah pleaseplease, Okay, So let me backtrack
COVID hits. I'm launching my coachingprogram. The other thing that happened when
covid hit is I finished reading theBible cover to cover and it had taken
me two years. Wow. Andwhen I finished, God was like,
great job, and do it again. Every year because that was your goal,

(51:52):
and you laughed That's exactly how Ileft it. God, I was
like, uh no, like that'sa lot, and you want me to
do it twice as fast, sothank you no. And I literally told
God no, and I drugged myfeet for a couple of months, and
then I'm finally negotiated with God.I don't know if you've ever done that
where you're like, okay, canwe make a deal. It was like,

(52:12):
I'll do a Facebook live. I'llfind five friends to do it with
me and hold me accountable so I'llbe successful. And so I did a
Facebook live. I asked for fivefriends and I had twenty women say yes
before I was done talking. Andthen they started tagging all their friends and
sharing it and I had two hundredwomen that day, and then we had
one thousand and two thousand, andthen two and a half weeks later,

(52:36):
they had sixty seven hundred women ina Facebook group to read the Bible cover
to cover in a year. AndI was freaking out because I'm like,
what just happened. I am nota pastor, not a minister, not
a preacher, not a pastor's wife. I have never been in a Bible
study. Michael, I don't evenknow how you do them. And I

(52:59):
was raised Mormon, and if theChristians find that out, they're going to
show up at my house and lynchme. So no, I cannot do
this. Like I called my bestfriend crying and I said, God made
a mistake. You were raised inthe church your whole life, You've been
in forty Bible studies. You needto do this. And by the grace
of God. She said, no, I'm not going to do it.
But God, you know, doesn'tmake mistakes. And he was so good

(53:20):
to me. He was so gentlein that freak out moment. He said,
look, I know who you are, and I know who you're not,
and who you are is a gathererof people, and who you are
is an incredible encourager. And that'sall I want from you. I don't
want you to interpret scripture. That'snot why I sent them. I just
want you to encourage them and getas many as you can across the finish
line, because how many of themsummer are really going to finish. Just

(53:44):
get them to finish, get themin community, rally them around to cause,
and get them to finish. Andso during that time, I'm like,
what do we do. Let's havezoom calls. Okay, maybe I'll
get people's email address, maybe I'llget phone numbers. We'll send them text
messages of what to read. ButGod gave me a vision at the end
of the year to inspire them tofinish. Do an event, Do a

(54:06):
two day event where at the endof the two day event you can read
the last couple paragraphs of revelation outloud. And so I saw this event.
I knew I would speak at it, and there would be other female
speakers, and then that's it.I just pushed forward. I told everybody
we were doing it. We knewwhen the dates would be, because it
would be when we were finishing,right, it would be the exact year
later. I didn't know who wasgoing to speak, God said san Antonio.

(54:28):
I knew it would be there,but I didn't have a hotel,
it didn't have anything, and Ijust started telling people. I started selling
tickets before I had all the speaker'sbook or anything. I literally was finishing
the agenda at ten thirty the nightbefore. Luckily, most of the speakers
were my friends. They were like, so when am I speaking? One
of my friends, is like justdo Russian roulette, Like just call our
name and we'll just jump up,like we don't even care, like we're

(54:49):
here for two days, just youknow, and I'm changing the agenda as
it's happening. And so that's howI had so many women and had we
even zoomed people in because there werewomen from other countries trees that in twenty
twenty one they still couldn't get ona plane and get here. So yeah,
that was the pressure. And whatI'd love for you to hear on
this one is what I teach womenis like leave the how to God.

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Just say a big, that quickyes to the Lord and like watch him
show up and blow your mind.I just thought the how to God.
I just told everyone this is whatwe're doing. And there's a rabbi in
Israel who saw everything happening, andhe's known me for years, and he
said, did you know that inIsrael they read one page a day at
the Talmud and it takes seven years, and then they do events at the

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end of the year and they readthat end out loud, and they've been
doing it for almost one hundred years, and they fell stadiums of people.
He said, Summer, I thinkGod's using you to use the same thing
with the Bible. I don't thinkit's ever been done. So that's what
happened with year one. The otherthing that happened with Year one is I
didn't know how to lead this,and so this lady was like, well,
get this book. It gives youweekly journal questions, it tells you

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want to read and ask like awesome. I told thousands of women to buy
this book, and on week fiveit jumped to Matthew and all the women
are like, oh okay, switchedto Matthew, and I was like,
no, God said cover to cover, Like he was so clear to me,
we have to get a different bookI believe it or not, Michael,
because no one believes us when Itell them there was no Bible study

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in all of Amazon that went coverto cover. Every single one of them
jumped around, went chronological, wenta little old Testament, a little New
Testament. No one could find one, and I couldn't believe that it didn't
exist. So I told them throwthat book out. We'll write our own
reading plan, we'll write our ownquestions. And halfway through the year,
a friend of mine was like,I think you're supposed to make this into
a book. I think you're supposedto make this into a journal. And

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so we did. And my coachingprogram was called Fear into Faith, and
I had a free Fear into Faithgroup. And so when twenty women wanted
to read the Bible, I hadlike a couple hundred women in this group.
So I said, well, justjoin this group. I bet some
of them want to do it too. So our movements called Fear into Faith
because that's the group I used,And then everyone shared the link, and

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then there were sixty seven hundred womenin the group, and I'm like,
well, I guess we'll use itfor this instead. And so for the
Bible journal, it was like,what are we going to call it.
We'll call it Fear into Faith fiftytwo week Bible study journal for women.
And God gave me a vision ofwhat inspires people in the Bible. It's
the stories. Why do we lovegood speakers because they're good at telling stories.
We included fifty two stories of womenthat have shifted out of fear and

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are walking in strong faith. Soevery week the woman has a story to
inspire her to keep going. AndI'm sure you could guess what happened next.
All of them were like, myhusband wants to do this, where's
the book for men? So Ienrolled my pastor to help me to teak
some of the questions and make itreally specific for men. So we did.
And so when we launched year two, I didn't know there was going

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to be a year two. Sowe finished the event. But at the
event, I had the Bible Journalsready for sale, and I encouraged all
the women go make disciples, gofind it at least one friend or maybe
ten, and get them to dothe second year with you, will you
give one more year of your lifeto God? And so the second year
we got to actually have the journal, and so many of them have been
doing they jumped on board, andso here we are. We were ending
year two and it's like, Ican't have them do the same journal.

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We need to do another one.So God gave me a year of miracles.
And last year we came out withstories of people who have had miraculous
healings, and we came out witha brand new journal, and I told
the ladies, I commit to tenyears to doing this. God's laughing and
being able to probably be my wholelife. But every year I'll come out
with a new journal. So we'reworking on the new journal for this year
coming out for a year four launchesin September. The journal this year is

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called Walking with Angels, and it'sgoing to have fifty two stories of people
who've been visited by angels, whichis not usually the bright white, shiny
you know with wings. It's usuallya person. There are the most incredible
stories of like somebody being in acar accident and no one around for miles
and this guy here who like pullsthem out of a car and then he's
gone, Like just so many reallybeautiful stories. So that's what we're working

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on. Year four launches September eighteenth. And God told me in January you
better tell anyone who will listen thatthere will be one hundred thousand people in
year four. So there's going tobe one hundred thousand people from all over
the world. So if anybody listeningwants to jump in on that, I'll
make sure I'll give you the website, or if you want, I can
give it now. Yeah, giveit now. It's just Fear into faith

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dot com. So if you goto Fear into faith dot com. You'll
be able to enroll on June eleventh. We're starting and probably this is going
to air after that, but we'redoing one hundred day countdown to one hundred
thousand people. So if you goto that website right now, you'll be
able to see how many people haveregistered. And we just can't wait,
like we know, God's just goingto show up and it's going to be
incredible, and this is what happenswhen you say a big yest to God.

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So all of these things, allof these successes. After that,
I've just started having people asking meto speak on their stages, speak on
their podcast. You know. Peoplethat spoke at my event were like,
now you got to speak at mine. You know. That's kind of how
it happened. And just a monthago I got connected with a TV producer,
long story Short in Dallas, andwhen she found out that we've been

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reading the Bible out loud, becausethat's one of the things we did.
I got six readers and they readevery day at the same time and we've
been doing it for three years.And when she found that out, she
cried. She said, you've beenreading out loud on Facebook and YouTube,
for almost three years the Bible.So as far as I know, no
one's doing it as a TV show. You have to do this as a

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TV show, and so that's whatwe're working on. This summer is September
eighteenth, will also be launching asa TV show. It's going to stream
live on Roku three times a dayso that people all over the world can
join in. And the vision thatGod gave me. And yeah, I
tell you right now, the fearis nipping at my flesh right now to
share this, but I have to. I have to tell you the vision

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that God gave me. Well,when she said about making a TV show,
wasn't my six readers. I sawthe face of James Old Jones and
I was like, wait a second, you want me to get him to
read And maybe you don't know,but there's actually a James Earl Jones app
where he read the entire King JamesBible. I used to put my kids
to sleep to it. And I'mlike, okay, I'll contact him.

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And then it was one face afteranother after another of celebrities. And that's
what we're doing. We are literallygoing after every major faith influencer on the
planet. From movie stars to TVto singers to athletes. I've been sending
videos to people like somebody's like,I know Justin Bieber, I know Selena
Gomez, I know Dallas Jenkins,producer of The Chosen. So what I've

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been doing is it's just been sendingthem videos saying, this is what God's
doing. And I don't know ifyour heart is for people to be in
the Word of God, if youwant to be a part of a million
people, because that's our goal wasa million people in a year and filling
a stadium of people, you wantto be a part of thirty thousand people
coming to read the Word of Godout loud, then I'd love for you

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to be one of our readers.Would you donate two hours of your time
to read four chapters? So myvision for the TV show is when people
tune in, they won't know who'sgoing to be their next They won't know
if it's going to be mel Gibson, or if it's going to be Dallas
Jenkins, or if it's going tobe this one hundred and seven year old
woman that somebody just connected me.She still can read. And now I'm

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like, where's the three year oldchild? Prodigy that can read like we're
just going after all these great storiesthat will inspire people and also every influencer
on the planet. So I gotto say to you, Michael, I
don't know who you know, butif you want to connect me with anyone,
my last podcast guy, he's likeI know billionaires, so and so,
and he's a huge he's a hugebeliever. You'd love to hear about
what you're doing. And that's what'shappening is people are just connecting with connecting

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me. So if anybody listening here, if you got a connection with somebody
that's an influence of power who hasmoney but has a heart for Jesus and
has a heart to see people inthe word, then definitely please connect with
me. Connect with me. Youcan get connect with me at fear Indefaith
dot com or on my website,which is summer Day dot com. Important

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that you spell it right. It'sd why because you know, I gotta
be a little different with my name, So it's Summer Day Dy and yes
that is in fact my real name. But if you know anybody that would
be great for that, I'd loveto be connected with them. I just
I thought it would be forty readersbecause it's going to be forty days of
filming. And then God's like,no, I think it's gonna be at
least one hundred people. And nowyou know there's three hundred and thirteen episodes

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because we don't do Sundays. I'mlike, Lord, are there is there
gonna be a different person every day? Do you have any idea which work?
That is? You know? Avery much? O? My spirit?
My spirit is billing, but myflesh is week. Lord, Like
that's you? And then who amI to be? Like mel Gibson?
Come come read the Bible? Likewho am I? Lord? And he
goes, You're no one? That'swhy you're doing it? Like why don't

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you use mel Gibson. He's alreadydone all this stuff. He has money,
he has a film company, hehas a crew, he knows everyone.
Why are you doing this with me? And that's what God keeps saying,
is because they don't know you.Because I want to show the world
somebody that nobody knows getting people togetherto read the Bible because it needs to
be about him. I can't dothis. This is like who is summer

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Day? Nobody supposed to be likeI can't do this. I'm just a
girl who said yes to God,and I'm just a girl did a Facebook
live to find five friends. That'sit. Well, I think you're more
than that, and I kind ofwant to go there for a second with
you. But first, just soyou know, James Earl Jones does live
in my in the Hudson Valley region, in my area. So but I
have not had anybody yet say thatthey can connect me, Idam Zach,

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I can connect you. I justsaid, I know where he lives orready
lives. Well, you got somebodyin that town who knows six degrees of
Kevin Bacon. You're just one personalway, one hundred percent. Actually,
I worked at in the town thathe lives in. I worked at a
store there and his his groundskeepers usedto come in all the time, and

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you know it was it was underhis account. It was under James Earl
Jones account. Is what they wouldcharge everything. So I've already praised to
the Lord. I'm like, don'tmake a fool of your servant, right
any video like it should be easyfor the right people to just say,
yeah, absolutely, let me recoursethat for you. That'd be amazing.
So I want to get into thata little bit in that you speak a
lot about visions and a lot aboutGod speaking to you, and I just

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what I want to get into interms of that is helping others tap into
that because you know, whether you'rereligious or not, and obviously you are
right, but whether you're religious ornot, you can tap into these visions
and the into this this knowledge bankthat's inside of you and this inner voice,
right and it's inspired by for you, God, for many the universe,

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and for whatever they decide is Godfor them. But you have to
be able to tap into it,right, So how do you summer,
I'm asking you, how do youtap into this moment where you can see
these visions, where you can hearGod speaking to you? So how do
you find the space to do that? So my journey with God has developed

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over many, many, many years, and probably one of the biggest.
I always believed in God since Iwas little, like I can remember being
five and just always feeling like Jesusis like my best friend Jesus right like
it never changed even and I mentionedbeing Mormon earlier, and I got to
tell you one of my least favoritethings is the judgment between Christians and Mormons.

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I need y'all to know. Iwas raised Mormon, and I always
loved Jesus and I always knew Goddid I always do those things And that's
never changed for me. But whatdid change is parents, getting divorced in
high school, not going to churchanymore, not having the best experience with

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boyfriends, going through a season oralmost didn't graduate high school, and I
ran away from home for a littlebit, and I was very suicidal and
I lost my wid and I didn'tgo to church for a while. And
then I married a man. Ifeel like, you know, they're like
when you choose your spouse, LikeI married a man who dad died when

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he was eighteen, and his momgot a brain tumor two weeks before our
wedding and passed away a year later. And he was like, I'm either
atheist or a hate guy, becausethere can't be a guy who would do
that. And so we were atthe holiday church people, Yes, mom,
I'll go to church with you onChristmas. You know. So I
went through a really long season whereit wasn't really close to God. I
never stopped believing in him, butI didn't read the Bible or pray or

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anything. And then you know,we had a daughter that gets you're really
starting to think more about life.And eventually we started going back to church,
and then we started going to DannyJohnson events and you know, she
does business conferences, but then sheteaches you how everything that she just taught
you is from the Bible, thegreatest success book ever written. And her
community is really strong believers, andwe became friends with really strong believers.

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And it was a combination of thosethings that led my husband to the Lord.
Danny Johnson baptized my husband, whichwas incredible. And so the journey
was stages, and then I gotto go to Israel. You want to
be close to God, go toIsrael. I feel like he's just ten
steps closer on the ladder when yougo to Israel's. I went to Israel,
and when I was there, Ijust felt like lost, you know,

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still in my life. And Iremember saying to Danny Johnson, I'm
just here to find out what Godwants from me. And before I finished
my sentence, she goes, justyou. You know, it's her and
I just talking one on one.She says, just you, He just
wants you. He just wants allof you. And the next day,
I'm, you know, praying atthis three thousand year old structure of the
Levites with my face down on arock, crying to the Lord like what

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does that even mean? Just me? And He's like, I just want
all of you. So I wentto the Jordan River a couple of days
later and I did a mikvah inthe Bible. That's when we immersed seven
times. People know the story ofthe man that had leprosy and he's told
to go immerse yourself on the JordanRiver seven times, and I really wanted
to do that, so I did. I went in the Dran River and
I was like, I give youeverything. And then I gave him my

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marriage, I gave him my children. Every time I went under, I
just gave him more. And Igave him my womb. And at that
time, people kept asking me ifI was going to have another kid,
and I kept saying, I don'tknow. Ask God, because I gave
him my womb. Even when Imiscarried. I've had three miscarriages since Israel,
I still was like, I gaveGod my womb. And it was

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this beautiful, amazing, comforting thingof like I don't ask God. I
don't know ask God. And Iwanted that for my whole life, Like,
man, I want that for likemy whole life. What would life
be like if it's like, oh, not ask God like Jesus stake the
wheel. So I started praying different. I started praying every day, like
like, word, I just giveyou this day, like everything in it,

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and I want to be used byyou. And so people are like,
man, God uses you so much. I'm like, but I asked
him like every day, and Iasked him every day for a long time
before he showed up really big,because he'll test you at your word,
be like are you serious? Sopeople want to use by God and then
he presents opportunities and they don't.They want to use it by God.
And they're at the grocery store andthey're like, oh, I should pray
for that person and who has crutches, and they're like no, They'll think

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I'm weird. So they don't seeI say yes to God. And so
he shows up more. He's like, oh, she's gonna say yes,
let's go. Let's go. Hejust keeps throwing stuff at me. But
I would pray. I would prayto be used by God. And one
of the things I felt like hetold me was to go pray for my
people, Like okay, well howdo I do that? Say Facebook?
Okay, So I started doing thisthing called a prayer blitz. I would

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go in Facebook groups where people areputting prayer requests for like my dad has
cancer, you know my kid this, and I would just hit their name.
I would go into Facebook Messenger,I'd hit the record and I'd say,
you don't know me, but Isaw your request about your dad's cancer.
I just want to pray for youreally quick. And I would just
pray for them right then and there. And I did it every morning.
I'd said a fifteen minute time,and I'd give fifteen minutes to God just

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to go be used by Him.And I usually would pray for anywhere from
like five to seven people. Andthey did that every day for like way
more than a year, consistently keptpraying for people, and I didn't realize
that I had prayed like for wellover a thousand people. And it was
usually people I didn't know, anda lot of times they wouldn't get it,
they wouldn't reply, or sometimes theywould reply months later they're like,

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I just got this, but Iswear to you this prayer was more relevant
now than when you pray. Ifeel like it was God's timing on your
prayer. And so I say allthat because I think all of it is
part of why this Bible thing happened. A lot of the women that are
reading the Bible with me, Iprayed for them. I didn't realize then
they would start following me on Facebook. I didn't realize then they would friend

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request me, and that was nevermy intention. The other thing that happened
that I didn't share is right beforeCOVID hit, I felt like I said,
go Facebook live for ninety one days, read Psalms ninety one, and
pray. So this was March oftwenty twenty and I had never prayed on
Facebook live and I didn't talk aboutmy faith on Facebook, not very much

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at all. And that was oneof those Nope, I'm not going to
do it. He's like, doit. Like you're not gonna do it,
do it and I'll tell you whenwhen I know that I'm hearing from
God is because when I say no, I feel like my body gets shakier,
it burns with fire. I feelsomething in my stomach. I feel
something in my It almost feels likeyou ever been like hit with a soccer
ball and you're like, oh,oh, you lose your breath? Right?

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I feel that for a second.I feel like you're gonna say no
to me. I'm like, okay, okay, okay, I'll do it.
Like I just feel this weird tensionin my body when I know that
God is telling me to do somethingand I'm not. And I've learned to
just be more in tune with thatas it happens. It still happens,
you guys. I still have moswhere I's like, no, Lord,
I'm not gonna do it. He'slike, yes, you are. I

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would have probably felt that way hadI not told you about James Earl Jones,
because I started to feel that way. And I'm like, okay,
right, I'll tell you did saythat. Yeah, you mentioned that you
were feeling weird not saying what wascoming to mind. Yeah, I have
to I have to share. Soso I'd already done that. So I
went bays reply if I chose towalk in obedience, and I did Psalms
ninety one and I prayed. Eightdays later, COVID lock and hit,

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and I told everybody, I don'tknow why God told me to do this,
I'm just doing it. On onday eight, I was like,
okay, well we now know whyGod told me to do this. And
I kept going and around day likeeighty nine, the riot's hit, and
I told everybody, I said,I guess I'm not going to be done
on ninety one days because we gotto keep praying every day. So I
ended up going one hundred and eightdays in a row. And then about

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two weeks later, was hey,do you want to read the Bible?
And I didn't realize at the timeuntil later, God's like, what do
you think I was doing during thoseone hundred and eight days? You showed
everyone that you're serious. They like, they know if you say I'm going
to read the Bible cover to cover, You're going to do it like he
was planting the field for the harvestthat I didn't know was coming. And

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so I tell people, if youwant to hear from God more, first
of all two things, ask him. He tells you to ask, say,
I want to hear from you more. I want to be used by
you more. I want to beyour voice. I still pray almost every
day, Father God, I wantto be used to help your people.
I want to be your voice toyour people. I want to be your

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hands in your feet. Show mehow I can show up and serve today.
I pray and I ask that almostevery day, and so ask him.
The second thing is I don't feellike say things, gentle, shut
up and listen. Like people arelike, I'll hear from the Lord,
and I don't hear from him.I'm like, well, how often do
you just sit and listen for hisvoice? Sit in silence, get out

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of your house, go in naturewhere you're not distracted by your children.
I try every morning as well tohave like moments of silence where I'm like,
Lord, i am awake, whatdo you want to do today?
And I sit listen, and thenI'll journal. I'll journal what I feel
like I'm hearing from him. Sothose are the two things. Is pray
and ask him for it, andthen be quiet and listen to him.

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Listen to him. I love that, and it's you know, it goes
back to what you we're talking about, the greatest success story ever written,
the greatest success journal ever written,in that you know we hear all of
these different ways of being successful,which are to meditate, and I practiced
these forms, which is to meditate, which is to listen, which is

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to ask ourselves powerful questions, whichis to journal. And then when we
look at with what you're talking about, it's all the same in a way,
right, except your focus is listeningto God and speaking to God.
And I love that is that,and I love how you decided to own
it, and I think that thatspeaks to clarity of when we're clear on

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our mission, when we're clear onwhat we're set out to do, then
people will come, and people willbe a part of our community and will
follow us, and we can leadbetter because, like as you said,
like as soon as you started owningit, as soon as you start sharing
and sharing your visions and sharing yourpassion for God, then everything started happening
for you. And I really lovethat that once you stepped into that into

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that power and started having that clarityand sharing that clarity with everyone, it
was like things started unraveling and unfoldingfor you in a way that you couldn't
explain. I really really just admireyou for that vulnerability and being able to
share that with us. But alsoat that time, like that was you
were vulnerable, you put yourself outthere at that time. And I want

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to just bring that back to whenwe're talking about public speaking, when we're
talking about feeling judgment and all ofthat, is that you said it earlier.
It's like, no matter where weare in our journey where no matter
where we are in our career,in our speaking lives and all this other
stuff, we're gonna feel vulnerable.We're going to feel nerves, we're gonna
feel judgment and everything. And it'sbecause we're making ourselves vulnerable. And that's

(01:16:40):
when we know we're on the rightpath, right like right, like speak
to that right when when when you'remaking yourself vulnerable, you're like, oh,
yep, on percent, you saidthat earlier, Like think about all
the great things you ever accomplished,like you'll know. And I feel like
there's one more story we have toshare, right because you know I want
to be because you can see me. But that's like another crazy part of

(01:17:04):
the story. Is another reason thatI am so successful. You know,
six figure coach, We're hitting sevenfigures this year, Like it's just absolutely
unreal. Is not only do Isay yes to God? Not only do
I have the courage to just walkin bold, crazy big dreams because I
had. I struggled for a while, like who am I to say,

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I'm going to lead one million peopleto read the Bible cover to cover in
a year, Like who does that? I do? That's who does that?
And when I make decisions, notonly am I careful how I talk
about it? Right, I didn'tsay to you I hope one day what
I'd really like to do. I'mlike, no, this is what we're
doing. Would you like to bea part of it? I talk about
it with confidence and I don't detour, And that's part of the RV story.

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So I never set out to fulltime live in an RV. Our
goal is like we had friends whothey traveled like three to six months in
an RV, and you could takeyour kids to the East Coast and really
give them like a really good UShistory education. And I'm born and raised
in La right, so that's myvision. Originally he was like, we're

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going to We're just going to homeschoolfor a season and it's going to be
beautiful. May of twenty nineteen,so how many months before my company was
stolen, just a few months beforemy company was stolen. God gave me
a vision when I was praying atchurch, and it was almost like he
was like, you know, you'reso cute summer, Like I love that
you want a homeschool, but nowthat's not what I'm doing here, and

(01:18:29):
gave me a vision of my daughter, she was like five or six years
old, laying hands on someone andpraying for them on the side of the
road at like a chicken check inAlabama with people lined up to be next.
And he said, I'm sending youin the ministry. Your entire family
is going to lead people to theLord. And it's not three months and
it's not six months. I wantyou to sell everything, pick up your

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mat and walk, no timeframe andno roots. And I'm like what.
He also said that the RV wouldbe provided what because we didn't have money
for an RV back then, Likeokay, Lord. So it took me
several days to like get the courageto even tell my husband all of this,
and God had already prepared his heart. He's like, all right,

(01:19:12):
let's do it then. And thentwo days later, a guest speaker at
church confirmed everything God had told herthat day. That there was a family
that was going to full time RVand she ended up praying over us and
she confirmed everything that I had hada vision on and she didn't know us,
and she was from San Diego.It was crazy. So we started
to move forward into that, andI think it was January first. We

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did a big like January first,twenty twenty announcement to everybody, like,
hey, we're selling everything, We'regoing in full time ministry. This is
what God told us to do.So talk about saying a big, huge
yes to the Lord, like that'swhy he's helped me. One was just
a girl said yes like I saidyes, and I sold everything, even
my amazing Star Wars collection. Itold everything I sold that I had attachment

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to for forty years, and wedid. He said sell everything and have
no roots in time frame. Andthen COVID hits and everybody's like are you
still going? Like what are yougonna do? And I'm like, I
don't know. I'm gonna have garagesales on Facebook. I literally would lay
out a table I do a Facebooklife and say I can't have a garage
sale. Will you buy any ofthis? Like who will buy this stuff?

(01:20:20):
And people were so kind left andright. They were buying things and
eventually like we could open up enoughto have a little bit of a groade.
So and everything. But even whenCOVID hit in the world was crazy.
I was like, God hasn't toldme not to go, So this
is we're gonna go, and wedon't know what the world will be like,
and we don't even know where we'regoing. I literally told people we
might August first, just get inthe car and pray and go do we'd

(01:20:43):
go left or right? And hehas not told me that if you're doing
the math. He told me inMay of twenty nineteen that I would go
into full time ministry. Didn't knowwhat that meant. I was running a
theater company. All that gets takenaway then like, I guess I'll be
a speaker. What happened? Sixfree events, then COVID hits, and
instead of trying to save a dyingtheater company, I'm launching my coaching program.

(01:21:09):
I'm launching my speaking business. Ido one hundred and eight days of
Facebook Live. Then I asked peopleif they want to read the Bible,
and six seven hundred women were ina Facebook group on July thirteenth. We
started just almost two weeks before Iwas supposed to go into full time ministry.
So for fourteen months, I saidyes to God, sold everything and

(01:21:31):
had zero, zero idea what Iwas going to do, sold everything to
go into ministry and had no ministry, had no path. I didn't know
if I'd just go be a preacher, no idea. But that is what
happens when you say a big batyes to God and you continue to not
back down no matter what anyone throwsat you, even if it's COVID.

(01:21:56):
You just don't back down. Thisis what I'm going to be committed to,
and you move forward through all thecrazy obstacles. God shows up and
it's crazy. I didn't think therewould be sixty seven hundred women, right,
I didn't think that we'll start yearfour with one hundred thousand people.
Like we're looking at booking for twentytwenty four, We're like, we're gonna
have to book at least a fivethousand person venue, Like, so we'll

(01:22:18):
go from three hundred our first eventto like five thousand in three years.
I mean, I think that's whatThat's what it's looked like. It's gonna
happen. That is incredible. Allthe pieces my life is not just one
piece. It's one big crazy yesafter another after another. And that's what's
happened. Yeah, saying yes toopportunities. I love that you know.

(01:22:40):
I know that that you have atight schedule to keep to. I can
keep you on for the rest ofthe day because this is I'm having fun
with you, that's for sure.But I know your husband is like,
we gotta get her off soon.So what I do want to ask you
is something a little bit off topicbut on topic to some ex in that

(01:23:01):
I like to kind of conclude withsomething a little bit more personal to you.
And I was thinking about maybe somehobbies that you do, some fun
activities and everything. But I'm actuallyeven more interested in maybe your craziest RV
story that you have to date,if you have one, if not,
we can just get to know youdifferent. We've had a lot of great

(01:23:24):
RB stories. So we've blown tireson the freeway, like in the fast
lane. Yeah, we brew tireand on the side of the road.
Having to change that at ten thirtyat night was a little scary. We
just had a lot of breakdowns.We broke down in Pennsylvania and then got
everything fixed and had to high tailit to Texas for an event, then

(01:23:45):
had to high tail it to Californiafor an event, and thank god,
something else needed to be fixed.So we took it in and the guy
was like, I can't believe youmade it here alive because this actual wasn't
fixed correctly and it was bent.And so we had so many different just
kind of close calls. You mightsay, living in an RVY is not

(01:24:06):
as glamorous y'all think it is.Like sometimes, like we just had to
replace our microwave, Like I shutthe door in the micro just stopped.
I'm like, oh okay. Likethere's just little things that happen. You
know. We have a kitchen floorover here. We have to have a
mat because it got all ripped upbecause we didn't see that one little thing
that fell and then we closed itin and it just ripped up the whole
floor and replaced it. So it'snot always glamorous, you know, sharing

(01:24:30):
one bathroom with my husband and threegirls, one of them as a teenagers,
you know, not always as glamorous. And I mean, I'm so
glad that we've done it. We'vejust met the most incredible people. We've
seen so many incredible places. Thearc in Kentucky is just beautiful. We've
got to see how different all thestates are, not just in how they

(01:24:54):
look, but the culture, thepeople. We've been to so many different
churches. I think that might bewhy I have a passion to unite people
outside of the church. There's alot of people who've been hurt and broken
by the church. And what I'verealized is like, no, you weren't
hurt by the church. You werehurt by that church and that group of

(01:25:14):
people. Because that same like churchhas a branch in a different state,
and it's not even the same.The church is not the same everywhere you
go. It's very, very different. So that's my heart to just get
people in the word. It's like, you don't need to rely on this
guy at this pulpit and which's justa flawed sinner right to tell you his
interpretation. Why don't you just readit for yourself. It is the greatest

(01:25:36):
book ever written, It's the numberone best selling book. Why wouldn't you
read it? Like most people ifit's the number one movie of the year,
they go and see it, rightit's the number one you better go
see it, the number one movieof all time, go see it,
the number one song. It's like, this is the number one book that's
ever been published. Why wouldn't youat least read it for yourself and see

(01:25:58):
what you think about it and seehow God would talk to you instead of
rely on a person behind a pulpitthat's just as different as the person now
in the street. So that's anotherone of my passions is I've just seen
the brokenness of the church. I'veseen the people by the church. That
doesn't mean that the church doesn't dogood work, and that doesn't mean there's
not amazing I've seen amazing pastors,and I've seen amazing congregations, and I've

(01:26:19):
met people. We didn't want toleave Pennsylvania. The church there is so
incredible. I felt like I wasfamily when I walked in. I didn't
want to leave. So there's amazingplaces and then there's broken places. And
you might just be in a churchthat's broken, but if you just moved
over here, you'd see the mostincredible people. And that's why my passion

(01:26:39):
is like, just let's get youin the world. Let's just start there.
And see what God asks for you. So a lot of crazy IRV
stories. Been to a lot ofplaces and hobbies I like. Recently in
my life, I don't have asmuch time. I love board games like
I like planting. I'm very competitive. I'm also really good at things like

(01:27:03):
board games. You know, mysiblings and my children sometimes are like,
I don't want to play with you. You always win, and I always
tell my kids the one thing youcan count on for me, So I'm
not ever gonna let you win.I love you so much that I want
you, dad have to work andlearn and strive and get the skills to
beat your mom, because that's howmy dad was. Like with chess.

(01:27:26):
My dad didn't let me win,and I remember he probably did let me
win when I finally did win,but I remember it was like a really
big deal the first time I beatmy dad at chess. Like, that's
what I want for you, guys. I'm not just saying you're you're six,
You're gonna learn how what it's likenot to win. So you know,
I love board games when it goodtime. I love watching good movies.
I'm a Star Wars freak. Imentioned Star Wars earlier and it's like

(01:27:47):
a giant, huge Star Wars fan. And do you have a favorite quote
from the movies Star Wars? Imean, come on, Yoda says,
do or do not? There's notry. I mean I feel like that's
how I live my life. Peopleare like, well, I'm going to
try to. I'm like, really, you're going to try. You're going
to do, like, just godo things you guys, like make decisions

(01:28:09):
and go do that. Yeah,and there is. That's why I asked
about favorite quote because there's just somuch like with Yoda, and I love
that the do or do not?There is no try. And you said
it earlier too, of like youdon't say I hope I can go and
speak, and I hope and oneday I'm going to try. It's like
no, I'm going to speak andI'm going to invite this many people and

(01:28:31):
they're going to show up. Youknow, speaking with that firmness is so
important. And I think it's somethingthat you've showed throughout this time that we've
spoken with each other, is thatyou have always looked at First of all,
I think you look at things througha different lens than most do,
and that you see it through anoptimistic lens of like there's a path for
me, and I'm taking that pathand it's going to work out. It

(01:28:55):
may not work out the way thatI might have envisioned it right away,
but it will work out out,and it's going to serve someone. It's
gonna serve me, it's going toserve someone, and it's going to be
for the better of everyone. Andthen there's this this, like I said,
this, this confidence in the waythat you speak, and this matter
of factness of like it's it's noteven like there's a question there, it's
just this is what I'm doing.And I really love that. And I

(01:29:16):
know that our listeners this is goingto resonate with them, and you know,
you know I'm speaking for them,but I mean you're listening, right,
so so you know, if youif you've stayed on with us this
long, it's it's obviously resonated withyou. And it is so inspiring to
speak with someone like you who youknow, like you said, your journey

(01:29:38):
of like building such a strong business, this theater business, having that taken
from you and then not even stayingin that regret or in that failure,
which which I was going to askabout earlier, but we just don't have
didn't have enough time for it.But like you didn't even stay there long,
Like I mean, yeah, sureit felt long when the moment in
what you shared a little bit,but you didn't stay there long and you

(01:29:59):
were just like, boom, let'sstart something new. And I just love
that. That's so inspiring because somany people do with failure and just don't
know how to move on. Right. Yeah, I'll give you just one
quick thing that I that I doteach, you know, for those of
you who've been through failure or beenthrough that stuff. If you're in that
season, you know we talked aboutyou know, I gave you the whether

(01:30:21):
you think you can or think youcan't, you're right, and then they
give you the summer day version,whether you speak you can or speak you
can't, you're right. So ifyou're in that season, you've been knocked
down, you're like, how didyou get back up? Two things that
I had to do is one Ihad to stop talking about it, because
you get what you speak, youwill get more of what you speak about.
Somebody just reminded me that they're like, I remember you saying three years

(01:30:41):
ago that you would get less roundto speak on your stage. I'm like,
I did, I forgot that.Oh my gosh. Right, So
you have to make you have tostop speaking about the depression, the breakup,
the divorce, the company stolen.I was stuck in that place because
I kept talking about it. Ikept crying about it. Yes, you
have to have a season of griefwith lots and then you have to make
a decision or you pass that stageand you have to stop talking about it

(01:31:03):
if you don't want to keep beingabout it. And then the second thing
was I had to speak back mybelief in myself. I really did lose
all belief in myself. I lostall identity, and I had to start
speaking it because here's the deal.You have to speak it until you believe
it, and then your belief willcatch up to you. Like I had

(01:31:24):
to speak it even though I waslike, I don't know, but I
just spoke you. I'm like that, I'm going to be a speaker.
Then I'm going to be a coach. Then I'm going to be a trainer.
Then I'm going to use my voiceto change the world. I had
to speak it until my belief caughtup. So that's it. Stop speaking
about the things you don't want,and speak about the things you want.
And if you want a scripture,it's Romans four seventeen is you call the

(01:31:45):
things that are not into being thethings that are. That's my summer version
of that scripture. And there's alsodeath and life is in the power of
the tongue Proverbs eighteen twenty one.I think that's the most powerful scripture in
the entire Bible. It tells youyou are either speaking death or life.
And I was speaking a lot ofdeath, and I was speaking a lot
of depression. And then I hadto realize I wanted to speak life into
what was possible. I wanted tospeak life into my dreams and my visions.

(01:32:10):
And the other thing I did Istarted binge listening to Less Brown.
You don't have belief, Borrow itfrom other people. Yeah, like,
borrow it from me, Borrow itfrom Michael, Borrow it from other people.
Listen to podcast, listen to YouTube, listen to great people who speak
motivation and speak and inspiration. Youlisten to Less Brown every day for sixty
days. I don't know how You'renot going to have your life change.

(01:32:31):
Like That's what else I did andI was like, Okay, I don't
want this. I'm going to startspeaking this way and I'm going to get
somebody else's beliefs sewn into me untilI have it myself. Yeah, And
I like that sewn into me.And it's so true because so many great
speaker, personal development coaches and professionaldevelopment coaches speak about you're only as good

(01:32:54):
as your circle of friends or peoplearound you, and so many of so
many of the time we don't knowhow to level up that that group,
that friend group, that relationship group. And a very simple way that you
just brought up is you don't haveto change those friends. I mean,
like, look, if there arefriends that you have that aren't serving you,
that are that are you know,judging you or mistreating you in a

(01:33:16):
way that's not serving you, thenyou might need to start walking in a
different path, a different direction.I'm not telling you what to do with
your life, but start start hangingaround people that serve you. But what
I'm getting at here is I listenevery single day, every single day,
two different motivational coaches, professional coaches, inspirational coaches. I listen to them

(01:33:38):
every single day, and it's becauseI think about it as like this is
my circle of influence is that likeI don't know Brendan Burchard, I don't
know Tony, I don't know youdon't I don't know all these people.
But I'm going to listen to whatthey have to say because that's just going
to change the way that I think. And I'm going to give you the
contrast to that of what helps meis that if I listen to things that
are negative, if I watch negativemovie with a ton of violence, if

(01:34:00):
I listen to music that is,you know, very negative and has a
lot of negative talking it, well, guess how I'm going to start conducting
my life very similar to that.So if that's one way of living a
life, and which is what wesee as a majority, by the way,
then we could change that that.We could change that into you know

(01:34:21):
what we're talking about here, whichis that positive speak? Right? So
it's changing it so good. Ihave all teaching you pretty much just summed
it up. I call it themovie in your mind and how it's programmed
by what you think, what yousee, and what you hear. And
I love it because I talk toclients all the time. What are you
watching on TV? What music areyou listening to? I had to realize

(01:34:42):
that like A Lot is More Setand Pink, they weren't really doing a
good job of programming me into possibility. It's like negative and hate the men,
like you know. I was like, as much as I love that
stuff, I need to not listento it all the time. I love
to sharing that, yeah, andnot all the time? Yeah, because
yeah A Lot More Set has somegreat songs from the nineties that we want
to throw back, right, Butit's don't let you don't listen to that

(01:35:02):
all rock, all single, allday long, right, put a little
inspirational stuff in your life, summer. This has been amazing and I would
love to have you back on.I think our audience could certainly benefit from
having you back on and hearing yourinspirational stories and everything. But I do
know that you have a fantastic Facebookgroup, you have a giveaway on your

(01:35:25):
website, you have some really amazingevents coming up, so of course that'll
be in our show notes, butif you could just share it for our
audio listeners here where they could findyou, how they can get in touch
with you and what you have comingup. Sure, I would love to
be I've got a lot of stuffgoing on on My website is probably the
best place, Summer Day dot comand that's dy So it's Summer s U

(01:35:46):
M M E R D E Ydot com, Summer day dot com and
I'm on there. I do havea free ebook I wrote. It's called
Fire Your Fear is. Everybody knowsme as the fear crusher and people are
like, what do you What's thenumber one thing you do for your clients.
I was like, crush fear.Crush fear out of them, whether
it's relationships or so they can takea giant stage, whatever it is.

(01:36:08):
Like, if you's ripping you,this is the book for you. You
get to fire fear and it's goingto give you five techniques on how to
do that. And then yeah,September fourteenth through the sixteenth in Dallas,
Texas, we have our next Fearinto Faith Live and it's now a three
day event because two days was notenough, and they'll be about twelve plus
speakers, including Less Brown, whichis amazing. Oh my gosh, so

(01:36:30):
can't believe that that's real. Andit's also virtual, so if you can't
get there, there's a virtual ticketthat you can get We would love,
love, love to have you there. I'm telling you this is like no
conference you've ever been to. IfI'm just being honest, most of the
faith conferences I've been to can geta little boring and a little repetitive.

(01:36:51):
And then you have amazing business conferenceslike Funnel Hackers Live and I love Pedrodeo's
hundred X events, so throwing andexciting. And so what we've done is
we've merged what the business industry iskilling and how they're doing an amazing with
the faith stuff, so that you'regonna come, You're gonna get filled with

(01:37:11):
the Holy spirit fire. It's gonnabe amazing. People are gonna get set
free and delivered. There's a lotof tears, but there's a lot of
laughter. I mean, we havefun, and we've got exciting music,
and I bring in my theater background, so I have some like dance performances
and some flag dancers, and wehad a ballerina, and then we have
some skits that we've uniquely crafted forthe event to like anchoring the experience.

(01:37:35):
And then the business conferences, they'realways giving you worksheets and they give you
activation and things. You get tolike do right then and there, and
so we've brought that into the faithbased environment as well. And I will
say that probably eighty percent of thepeople who come aren't actually in the Bible
study. So if you're like,oh, but I didn't read the Bible
with you, well, most ofthe people who come, they didn't read

(01:37:56):
the Bible with us. So ifthat's your jam at all, we'd love
to have through September fourteenth through thesixteenth, and then we're launching year four
of reading the Bible cover to coverin a year. If you've been waiting,
If we have so many people likethere's this lady Karen, and she
said, for fifty nine years she'stried to read the Bible cover cover,
She's finishing year three with us.It's incredible. I have woman after women

(01:38:20):
and now there's men too. They'relike, I always wanted to do this
and I've never finished. And wehave all the tools now. We have
email, we have text to remindyou, we have an app, we
have a community where you can bein the group and interact with people.
We're gamifying it this year. Likewith the app, I'm like, we're
gonna give a right prizes and stufflike whatever I have to do to motivate

(01:38:41):
people to like just finish like I'mgonna do it. That's one of my
prayers, Like Lord, what elsedo I got to throw at them?
And then also, you know,we talked a little bit about my speaking
program. I have events, virtualevents, and sometimes live called Master the
Stage. So if you go toMasterthstage dot com you could probably find out

(01:39:01):
what we have next in that arena. And if you want more info about
my public speaking course or anything likethat, that's also at summer Day dot
com. And I live on Facebook. If you search summer Day Summer d
Y, I'm usually the first onethat pops up, and that's kind of
the best place if you want tofollow me. I have Instagram too,
I just prefer the engagement side ofFacebook, so that's where I tell people

(01:39:26):
I live cool. I think that'sabout all we have, you know,
coming up, And I'm reminding youif you've listened this long, you know,
and you know, anybody who'd bea great reader for our Bible TV
show that we're launching. We're justtaking all that in right now as well,
hanging on for the pride awesome.Well, I'll volunteer myself. I
think i'd like a shot at that. I think you have a good speaking

(01:39:50):
voice, and I think you wouldqualify. That's the one thing is we
kind of have to have people sendin videos, right because not everybody's really
at the level maybe, so we'renot just taking everyone. But you've proven
yourself. Michael, thank you.I'd love to have you. That'd be
great. Thank you, It'd beawesome. It would be a great experience.

(01:40:12):
I want to thank you so muchfor coming on the show today.
This has been really amazing having youas a guest. It's always fun having
a conversation like this, and it'salways I think it's just always great to
have a guest who can share storiesof their vulnerability and show how they were
able to make it to the otherside. And you really shared a lot
of that with us. So Iwant to thank you so much for doing

(01:40:32):
that with us today. This hasbeen awesome. It was great to hang
out. You feel like I wasjust hanging it out with my big brother.
Cool, cool, all right,awesome. Thank you for listening to
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