S2 E2 Montessori through the eyes of Cara, 6 years old, in the Philippines & her mother Mars

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Hi, everyone, Simone Davies hereand welcome back to the podcast.
So with the podcast, I hope thatyou get really inspired that
there are so many ways that youcan bring Montessori into your
homes by speaking with peopleall over the world from
different backgrounds, differentplaces on the Montessori
journey. And what we'll see islike the principles are
universal, and how we apply themcan actually be really

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culturally responsive when weadapt them to what we call in
Montessori, our time and ourplace and our culture. So this
is season two, Episode Two, andI think I always say it but I am
definitely super excited toshare today's interview with you
because I got to speak with Carawho is six years old, and a
mother Mars in the Philippines,all about what Montessori looks

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like in their home. Mas wasMontessori educator and school
owner and is now homeschoolingcarer. And so we get to talk
about what that looks like someprojects that they've been
working on how mas supportscarers learning and definitely
you want to wait till the endwhere Cara had prepared some
questions to ask me. It was sucha fun surprise to get

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interviewed by a six year old.
But before we get to theinterview, I wanted to say Happy
Earth Day for yesterday.
Although I guess every dayshould be Earth Day. Right,
really. So I've been tellingeveryone about this amazing
podcast I've been listening toit's called How to save a
planet. And the hosts AlexBloomberg, he runs gimlet media,
which is now an empire of sortsof very intelligent NPR style

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podcasts. And his co host is Dr.
Ayanna Elizabeth Johnson. Andshe is super smart, black woman
who just happens to be like amarine biologist, a self
confessed policy nerd and authorof the book or we can save and
their banter is superentertaining. And each episode

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they look at a different climatesolutions like with a positive
outlook on what we can actuallydo. And I think it's in the
first episode, they say that theproblem to solving climate
change is not so difficult. Webasically need to reduce carbon
emissions. And yet the solutionto the problem however, is the
more difficult part. And wellthat's where I think Montessori
children come in because for oneMontessori children are very

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connected to the earth. Like wetalked about the
interconnectedness of life onthe planet with with them like
that everything has its cosmictasks, like even that creepy
looking spider or like ifthere's a wasp, the bots bugging
us, I love to ask like what'sthe cosmic task of wasps again,
and, you know, Montessorichildren are great at solving
problems as well. But Dr.
Montessori, she understood theimportance of nature. She wrote

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a lot about how we should havelots of opportunities to be in
nature, to understand toappreciate its harmony, its
order and its beauty. And I lovein a book discovery of the child
she wrote that the childrenrefree encourage them, let them
run outside when it's raining,let them remove their shoes when
they find a puddle of water. Andwhen the grass of the meadows is

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damp with do let them run on itand trample it with their bare
feet. Let them rest peacefullywhen a tree invites them to
sleep beneath its shade. Letthem shout and laugh when the
sun wakes them in the morning asit wakes every living creature
that divides its day betweenwaking and sleeping.
I love that. So definitely beingoutdoors with Georgia is one of

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my favorite ways to be withchildren. Like whether we're
walking or hiking or collectingsticks and rocks on our walks or
just lying under a tree andlooking up at the clouds. That's
great with babies as well. Likethat's I always say the most
beautiful natural mobile iswatching the leaves move if a
tree or taking photographs ofthings we find beautiful but

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that we can't take with us. Ilove watching my kids have built
so many huts, paddled in creeksand all those kind of things.
And, you know, then Montessorichildren are also learning how
to look after the earth, fromcomposting to growing their own
homes and vegetables in a schoolgarden to see where their food
actually comes from. Not justthat it magically turns up in
our stores. They learn to saveelectricity and water, how to

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care for animals. And even notjust recycling and reusing, but
actually like looking at waysthat we can regenerate the
earth. Not using the earth as aresource as such, but like
feeding the earth. So it'ssomething I'm just starting to
learn about is this regenerativesustainability. So if you had
like a scale, at one end, youcould have consumption. And

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that's where we don't reallycare about what the impact is of
what we're consuming. And thenwe come up with a greener
alternative. So we're moving upthe scale a little bit and we're
still consuming but it has lessimpact on the planet. So then
we'll come up with sustainablesolutions where we aren't taking
out more than we're putting backin. And then it comes to the
regenerative part of the otherend of the scale like beyond
neutral where we're actuallyactively working to feed the

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earth. So the best example I canthink of is when I saw the
documentary biggest little farm,you watch this couple who've
completely dried out area offarmland which they want to
bring back toLife. They're actually city
folks. So they get someone onboard to help them. And they're
not. They're planning to plant afew varieties of trees, you
know, to make it bit biodiverse.
But actually, they end upplanting 10,000, orchard trees,

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over 200 different crops, andthey bring in all these
different animals of everydifferent kind, and you see the
land actually start to come backinto balance and harmony. I
won't spoil it for you, but youneed to see it.
And I think we'd all agree thatthere's like never been more
urgency to save the planet, andMontessori children are good at
solving problems. So I'm reallyexcited that there's now a plan

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to connect Montessori schoolsand families around the world to
work on it together. So if youwant to get inspired about
things that you could be doing,or to take part in the project,
I'll put a link in the shownotes. It's called the earth
project that I've been workingon with Montessori everywhere,
and it's going to be completelyfree for everyone to join. You
just need to sign up and it willtake place from September to
November this year.

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So I hope you're now feelinginspired to get out into nature
maybe today. And remember, theysay there's no such thing as bad
weather, just bad clothing, andlet's start regenerating the
earth. And with that now, let'sget on to my interview with Cara
and Mars. And I'll be back afterthe interview to answer another
listener question.

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Very excited to welcome today.
Cara and Mars all the way fromthe Philippines. Some of us
might know Mars from Instagram,what story on Mars, definitely
recommend following your mom.
And we get to speak with Karentoday's so Cara, how old are
you? And what does yourschooling look like?
Your six one? And do you go to aschool or do you do school at

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home? No. I only do Montessori.
Yeah, that's so interesting. I'malso a Montessori educator. But
maybe some of our listenersdon't really know what
Montessori is. How do youexplain it to people who don't
know what Montessori is thatgave? It's not like traditional
schools that the teacher says,you do this, you that you do
this? It's like, you're Yeah, noteacher is not going to be a

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teacher, called a teacher. Wecall it a guide. So the guide,
let the kids choose what theywant. But there's also some
elements. There are also somemoments Yeah, but there's more.
There's a lack of free games,more games,

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more freedoms, the limits. Thatsounds like my kind of school
where you actually get to decidewhat you'd like to work on. And
then it's more engaging isn'tit's more interesting when you
discover for yourself that youfind my carry you guarantee me
like I am actually working onthat.
You will working on the bass,you can't stop yourself.
Would you like to show ussomething that you that it's one

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of your favorites. Even thoughthis is an audio podcast, we can
describe it to people who arelistening.
Cars picking it up my favorite.
This is like, they'll becarrying it. I could go assigned
a big cabinet. It's like squarenumbers. One you can make in
square, four.

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And 916.
This is changingcars rolling up a little blue
grid. That's a five by five andour six Yes, that was pink that
was clearlythis is 49.9. It's a white one

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that'syour diskeeper that you need.
This is 64. Again, eight to one.
When you build a pyramid fromthem with the 100 at the bottom

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all the way up to the one andthen you held up a piece of
paper a little way through. Andthat was something you could
check on that would be quiteinteresting for people who have
never worked on this before.
What do you use the paper for isthe control of error.
I can't I think you got to get ascreen. But there's actually
really numbers. So if youforget, you can look it up and

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check your answer to make surethat you remember correctly.
Right? Like Hi, you got likewooden squares that have the
number two. That's reallyhelpful, isn't it? It's a mum
doesn't have to tell you. If yougot it right or wrong, you can
just check yourself and if youget it wrong, you can correct
it. And know that you need tokeep practicing that one.
And at the moment, you can'treally go out and explore so

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much but you've been doing somepresentations for family and
friends via the internet. I hearyou would you like to tell us
about some of those projects andhow you've gone about them
again. So, but there isno podcast and the engineer that
I gave meYes, it is a presentation. It's
about in ganic way you might notyet know. So endemic means like,

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this one thing like a birdanimal lives in one country.
Yep, one place to end alltraffic dare admission. I agree.
They don't go to any place, theydon't live anywhere else. They

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just stay there. So there are700 100 species in my country,
you know, you know, away I usedto want to see countries like

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700 701. So, and how many41 by the end and
about the Philippine Eagle. Sothe Philippine Eagle is three
feettaller. Oh, I stir the table,

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but if the tool shelf behindyou, yes, as tall as that, okay,
the wingspan is longer than thetable that we are using. Wow,
this is the largest.
He gets, be he in fact, we knowfor now. That's always what I
that's the word that I alwayssay that we know for now. Yeah.

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Because we don't know that wemight discover more. That's a
really wise thing to say.
Because it's always evolving andchanging the things we discover.
Wow. Right. One time I we heardabout a new specie of like frog
or toad. I think God.
Awesome.

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Yeah. And you hear aboutscientists finding new species
of mushrooms and other things asthey forage. And yeah, there's
all these things that are stillto be discovered. I don't know
if I'm missing any big birds asbig as that but you never never
know. They may find that it's adifferent species or something
like that. And how did youactually get interested in birds
in the first place? Why did youdecide you wanted to decide to

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study endemic birds? Guess theylook so interesting. their
colleagues were so bright, and Iwanted to learn why did some
bridge had great colors, andsome had darker colors. So I
heard like some braid tag brightcolors to me. That That means

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like, they will like pair andthen
so so I was really cut out forthat. So so like the the
as a bridge that had darkercollege, which I wondered why
they had that college to protectthe masses or hide from

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predators. Ireally inspiring in those
springs. That's so beautiful.
And so then how did you actuallyfind out the information? Did
you look it up in books? Or didyou use the internet? Or what
other ways are there to find outall the information about these
birds? You know, things that yousaid it was also what I did, but

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I also went outside to to lookhow how did did this? How, how
did they do this? Yes, this. Ialso look out in the in outside
in my village. That's important,right to do research and to look
and observe. Do you have anobservation journal? Or is there

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any way that you record yournotes? Oh, yeah, I also have
that, but I can get it. Orif you want to keep this going,
thenwhatever you'd like, would you
like to show us?
Okay.
Okay, how about a good? Okay, somom's gonna get it for us. While

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you can tell us some more thingsabout your birds. What else did
you discover? What was one ofthe most interesting things
about the birds that you weren'texpecting? Yes, I think I know
what I will say. So. So I, Ireally wonder how did they fly?
Yeah. How do they fly? That'ssuch an interesting question.

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Were you able to find anythingout and kind of remember so? So
I wondered, why can't I flybecause I tried
waving my arms in the air and Icouldn't. So I wondered,
Was it because of the air thatthat

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blew them off out in the air andjust steer theirselves with with
their way is I wonder so so II think
that's okay too, because you'llalways be able to look it up
again. But now Cara has got herjournal in front of her. And

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it's a book that's very colorfuland she's holding it up and I
can see many colors. I see aleaf stuck in there. And then
there's a watercolor I think, isthat done with watercolors? Yes.
This is the ash blanks, Rajesh.
Okay. So you've actually drawnthe picture of the bird and I
also made a paper. Hey, bird.

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Oh, yes. So you've made a paperbird as well. Yeah. It's quite
small. It's only about a coupleof inches big. And you draw on
the pattern of the markings onthe I also went to Japan. And I
saw thatit might be like, a Lego from
the screen.
I can see some pink and somegolden is there as well. No,

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it's it's more like brown. It'sjust a gold.
This is the light coloredKingfisher. It's blue. Oh, I see
it. Yes. The Kingfisher? Yeah,yeah. Hi there. Isn't it amazing
that outside your house, youhave such beautiful birds that
you can draw and observe? Do youever use binoculars to look

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closer? I nearish. Many otherinteresting rage in Amsterdam.
There are there are andsometimes some parakeets, if any
of you like why did the Greekparents end up in Amsterdam? How
did that happen? So that'ssomething I need to look up. I
think they've migrated here. SoI have a squash before outside
our house in our garden. It'shard to see maybe in screen,

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would you like to show us onelast one and then we'll talk
about some of the projects andthings that you've worked on.
I've beenbanging about flowers. I didn't.
I used to look at it in theinternet because
the venom batteries outside ourhouse. And our our seedling
bonobo doesn't have any flowershere. So we just look at it a

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bit in the infant. So sometimeswhen the flowers aren't
available, we can look online aswell. And then you can make
pictures from those. And also, Iunderstand that you've been
studying about your culture, youknow about the Philippines and
special people and the puzzlemaps of the Philippines and
things like that. And how do youlearn more about the Philippines

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in your homeschooling? Oh, okay,so I all law have. I have the
puzzle map. Here's I have aglobe I can Nisha, what are the
different islands and yeah, inPhilippines, smaller places in

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Philippines.
And, and before the quarantine Ihad when I went to bankier, one
of the places in Philippines soyou got to visit. And I also
learnedthen with books and I had been
learning about people fromdifferent places. Like this one

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NIDA.
She's a marine biologist. Yeah.
I thought I saw someoneunderwater. Yes. Does it make it
to the field inspiring? Do youget interested about all the
types of work that these peoplehave been doing? Yeah, I had an
injurythat she had been making. I said

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to my dad that please get me anunderwater camera to capture all
these animals that I had.
It must be amazing, all thethings that a marine biologist
can see under the water. Andit's amazing that maybe Yeah,
there's a way to even just put awaterproof sleeve over a camera

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and you could take it on in thepool or out into the ocean
to beach in our place calledbatang gas. And I had seen many
other things I had seen like seaanemone and water call that we

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don't know what it's called, butit was pink and it I saw it in
the water with the goggles. Ihold my breath. Oh, wow. That's
one way to have a look ateverything that's around you,
isn't it? You're alwaysdiscovering No matter if you're
just going to the beach or ifyou're at home. Do you actually
even do school all day or do youjust have a few hours in the

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morning where you do yourMontessori work? How does it
work? So I do like afternoonwork time.
And I guess I do morning worktime. I will usually do my
chores like watering the plantsfeeding the packs and you help
take care of the house and otherpets Do you have 14 years

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You've got 14 pets?
Can you tell us what we like?
What made them all? I hear adog? Is that a dog?
I have two dogs. Hello dog, onecat.
And we have nine fishes. Thatmeans 14.
That's a lot of animals to lookafter. And so what are your

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responsibilities? Do you need towalk the dogs? Do you feed them?
Okay, so the afternoon, we walkthe dogs and the fishes is just
there in the kitchen.
Yeah, and we have to also makesure that the fishes don't eat
too much because they getbloated. Do you help when you

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have to clean the fish tank? Oris that something that your
parents help with? My mom alsohelps me do that. How do you
feel about doing chores? Is itboring? Or do you like helping
around? It's fine, guys. I likedirty when I get outside. Yeah,
getting dirty can be fun.
Definitely. And so you'retalking about something called

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practical life and practicallife means you know, daily jobs
around the house, doesn't it?
And do you actually helpsometimes with the cooking in
your house? Do you like doingbaby food? Yeah, I cook soup.
And, and Mama said that. I saidthat. I want to cook soup every
time. So mom said I will willprepare the cooking area to be

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ready for cooking. And so whatkind of vegetables? Do you put
in the soup? Or is there anyother ingredients you use? I
like carrots that are queued.
And I also put some corn andI'll support the
mushrooms and cream. And wedidn't use water for the soup.

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Instead we use this kind ofthing that that's made of
vegetable. vegetable stock. Hmm,that makes extra tasty. So do
you have to prepare all thevegetables as well by peeling
them and cutting them into smallpieces? Yeah, mom first cut them
in, in strips. Then I cut it inin little cubes. And then

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cauliflower. It's Tuesdaycreamy. So mondesi
I think I can do it. You do alot by yourself, then. That's
very helpful. And have you beenlearning any sewing? I think I
saw that you had done somesewing? Do you just practice
sewing? Are you sewing anything?
not selling but but I do.

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Actually I do sewing. But I sawwhat. So like this kind of
thread that's very, that'sthicker. And I saw it with red
in together and it's like a likesomething that has been that
like URIs but it's not.

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And I'll be doing embroidery.
embroidery. Yeah, it's fun to beable to make patterns and things
out of the sewing. We call itstill practical life even though
I guess you're actually notsewing something in particular
that you're selling a craft orsomething to appreciate your own
designs. Do you actually do alot of art and craft? Do you
like those kinds of things?

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Yeah, I can show you some. Sureand show it holding up a bird
right now. It looks like you'vedrawn the bird and you've cut it
out and folded the head over.
There's a whole series of birdsand they're all different sizes.
That's a little black on whiteone. Want to tell Simone inspire
you to make these birds you seemavailable as a true person. And
I knew he did cut out herewho did come out here.

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Andlook at all those and so I know
Matisse he was an artist thatdid a lot of cutouts and he's
inspired you to make your ownbirth series. Look at that. And
there's lots of colors, doesn'the? So I think something really
interesting about Montessori,which we've kind of touched on

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is that you get to decide whatyou want to work on. But you
also get to make the discoveriesfor yourself. So I guess I've
heard that you are interested inthings like maths, maths, then
how do you do maths inMontessori, do you want to teach
us about some of those things?
Maybe some double additions orhow you find things so I I, I

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hate I like doing this likethis is adding 555 510 times. So
first 510 I could do itby 1015 2025 3035 40 Finding

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50. So that's one way you'velearned how to do 510s.
And then you can find differentways that they use in your house
as well. Yeah, and you justkeep, you can just keep keep
keep going until you reach 100.
You keep going till you get 100.
That's super fun. And any otherthings that you'd like

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discovering about yourMontessori things you were
showing us before the littlebeads, the bead cabinets? Do you
use division boards or anythinglike that in your home?
Okay, she's off to get it. Youdon't need to go either want to
get it? So mas? Would you liketo tell us how she uses the
division boards at the moment?
Oh, she's back. Aha, you'reholding it up. And on the top is

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some little holes at the top,which has got this 10 of them.
And down the side isone 210 1291 210 129. So right
now these are just out on theshelf. And if she feels like she
wants to do a little bit, it'slike a, we don't really have
usually in Montessori, you havelike the number of cards and you
have number of problems. But youdon't really have that. But it's

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more like very practical like,Okay, what if we have 27 of
something? And we have fourfriends to divide it with? How
are we going to do that. And sothe division board is there for
her to to solve the problem. Butof course it's there. But it's
there available for her. But shecan think of other ways right

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now she actually is not usingthe division where this much
because she likes makingnotations and paper. So I see
like a transition to the coinfrom the concrete materials to
towards the abstract. She'susing the paper to

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greenbox box with little beadsinside. Yeah, I love the long
division when they get bigpieces of paper and they start
adding numbers and keep wantingto divide. And so it looks like
she's like right on the edge.
Because being six, I guess she'smoving from the first plane to
the second plane. And moving tothe single abstract. I think
it's really interesting becausethe materials are always there
if you want to go back to them,or you can work straight on the

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paper as well. And you want usto talk about ballet, can you
tell us a little bit about it,we'd love to learn what you're
learning. So I had been veryconcentrated in it so well, when
I teacher noticed that she movedme in the next level because I
was so concerned trade, and Iwas I do steps. And some of the

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steps are different anddifficult. But I still have push
them harder and harder. And thenI get better. And sometimes I
also make mistakes. But that'sokay, because it helps me learn
what not to do and what to do.

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Exactly. We learned from mymistakes. In fact, I heard your
mom when she says something likeyou can always come to me with
your mistakes. Is that right?
Mas? Right? That's right. It's avery intentional response I give
all the time, right.
So you know, you can come toyour mom, she can help you and
she'll help you figure it out. Ilike that phrase like we're

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figuring it out.
And with ballet, do you doperformances? Or is it mostly
online lessons at the moment?
How does it work? Right now? Wedo we do online since 19. I
don't go yet to introduce to doit has to be online for now. And
maybe there'll be someperformances. Maybe it'll be up
to perform online as well. Idid. I did.

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I did my recycle leggy. And ithad been this video. My mom did
it. And then my teacher, let'sjust put it cubes, cubes, give
of air three by the end, andthen it should get people
dancing. And then I was able towork. So you all able to dance

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together even though youcouldn't be together. Yeah. And
I also I'm quite envious of yourbook collection. Is there
something that you're enjoyingright now? Or do you want to
tell us about some of yourbooks?
I have had to clean hippopotamusand look at unusual animal type
ships. So is that a fictionalbook or is that a nonfiction

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book? It's a nonfiction book ittalks about fiction means it's
about things that are real. Andfiction books are more from
imagination. So I guess why isyou want to do this. So clover

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go going to a cracker Gauss now.
So so that crocodileopens his mouth and
Clover. Clover goes in, but thecrocodile won't eat
the clover. It's veryinteresting because the the

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clover or you get feed deadbecause the meat that that gets
taxed stocks that silvery eatsthe and the crocodile gets
clean. So there are animalprotection. That is amazing. So
Cara was pointing to the teethof the crocodile and the food

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that stuck around the crocodilesteeth, the birds eating and the
crocodile won't eat the bird. Sothe bird gets fed and the
crocodile has its teeth clean.
So yeah, this interconnectednessis very Montessori. It's like
what we like to call cosmiceducation that everyone has a
task. Mas, do you want to speakto cosmic education? Because I
think that's something that youenjoy. Yeah, I was gonna say, we
haven't. We haven't really donegreat. I haven't really

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continued doing the Montessorigrade lessons with Kira, because
except for that one time,remember when she saw me
researching,because I wanted to write my own
version of the first gradelesson. So she saw me doing
that. And she wanted me to readthe story, but I haven't done it
with her because I said I wantedto use the pinprick of light,

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you remember? Yeah. Yeah. So. Soanyway, that to her, it was very
special for us. But they said Iwanted to prepare more. But to
prepare myself more for theGreek lessons, but
we have been talking about thesethemes, some themes of the great
lessons, like our favorite iscosmic task, right? Yeah. That,

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in essence, Simone said, Everycreature has, has a cosmic pass
has a unique role. And we havebeen using a lot of books. But I
was going to talk aboutCharlotte Mason as well. But
everything Charlotte Mason has alot of as a readily accessible
source of living books, right.
So that's what I plan to do isto check the living books and

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see if which are in line withthe Montessori grade lesson. And
one of the books that we areusing now is how nature stories
for young readers by Florencebats. It's well recommended
Charlotte Mason book with tiesvery well with Montessori Greek

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lessons, because it talks aboutdifferent marvels of nature,
right? Even the littlestinsects, even the worms, and it
talks about what good they do tothe world. And in the end, it
talks about the human child,right? The human child and how

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there are so many things thatthe human child a humans cannot
do and other creatures cannotdo. But there are also things
that we can do that they cannotand one of the things that
people can do is being kindright. So I think it pays very
nice. No, we can we can do logicgames, then. Yeah. Other

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animals. Yeah. Because the bookalso mentioned like, we cannot
fly, but we have invented thingsthat can help us fight. Yeah,
yeah. Thank you for being verypatient. You want to show us a
book card shows? It's calledshell big task. And what's this
one about?
That all right, right close.

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Close.
The shell shall share the samelike the porcupine and a Kenya.
They both havethese spikes to protect
ourselves. But they aren'tlinked. close relatives. Wow.
The blood spikes. Yeah, I lovethat they share the same thing

(33:57):
like shells. So the turtle andthe snail they are not really
close relatives, but a USshells. It's called Pacific
at that can shine.
No offense, but they rely on thesame thing. Like Like, like

(34:23):
shell. It protects them. Shellis for hiding. So there's some
of your favorite books. And youalso I believe, like playing
board games.
Okay, let metell you what I had been doing.
What have you been doing?

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get addicted to games.
Stop playing.
I think we'd enjoy each other'scompany. I love games do. Which
one are you enjoying the mostright now? I play? I play? Yeah.
Yeah. Every night. Like when myHe says it's time to sleep. I
sayeven been here for years. I know

(35:08):
that one sleeping queens thatwas one of our favorites.
Rainbow.
Rainbow nights. Okay, I don'tknow that one and cute bird.
How you play Cuba? Okay.
The collecting of block. Can youbring over the box of trellis?

(35:29):
Oh, that looks like a prettygame too. It's got a very
decorative.
What you put how do you how doyou play you connect lines, I
want to show her what we havefor each card. It's very, very
rare.
So here on a pitch time. Oh,look at those it's a hexagon has

(35:51):
a pretty good access into thecards are black with vines of
different colors. And they needto connect. So maybe the red one
will connect with the red.
There's the yellow connectorwith the yellow one. And
that's the starting code. Ithink I would do that even not
as a game. But just to make thepatterns. Yes, what you did
yesterday, right? Yeah, yeah.

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But it's thinner and taller.
It's called byte code bytes. AndI like how all your games
arranged almost like booksstanding on their edge so that
you know, often we pile outboard games on top of each other
and then they all fall out. Butthis is a way that makes it easy
to see what you have. I havegymnastics Jurassic snack. Would
you like to show us one more?

(36:38):
Magic labyrinth.
Look at that, which is cool.
Tell her aboutopening up a box. A blog.
Different different items. Andthere's a nice right under the
board. And your pieces have.
It's like it's the lizard. Oh,they have little manga balls. So

(37:05):
you put that under the board?
Yeah, right. And the wizard goeson top of the board.
When magnet hits a wall meansyou lose and you have to go
back. Ahyeah, can I get through the
walls and so you have to startover again. That looks like a
lot of fun once I love magnetsas well so that it got an extra

(37:27):
point of interest that I wouldthink would be beautiful. And
would you like to tell us whenyou're finished putting them
away? About the Wizard of Ozthat you've been reading lately?
Are you enjoying that book?
What's it all about? Oh girlwho was carried to deliver the
landerby cyclo house let's pick up

(37:49):
flew to the lander Wizard of Ozbecause that there was like
this, this Cyclone that broughtit to the land.
And at the end of each chapter,you've been drawing a little
like summary of the chapter onein me Okay, it's another story

(38:14):
in what in that book?
So we have finished TheWonderful Wizard of Oz actually.
And we were thinking about whatbooks to read next right Cara?
She's getting the she's gettingher drawings. There was no
pictures in the book. So I mademy own so here

(38:40):
we can see yes, we can see theoutlines
so inventive idea to make yourown pictures if there aren't any
years andthat's Dorothy is just killed
her dog and I just made my ownthing as a cat
is like so nice to see about youmaking your own drawings. You
can add whatever you like. I'mhere

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because toto fell in door in thelike, what do I get opens to
like an underground cave. Isthat what you found my key
skill.
So he said he felt he fell downbut no, look at that. I can see
a tin man in the drawing set thetin man. Is that a witch as

(39:25):
well? Yeah. No way. This one isthe this was the part you want
to tell her or not do which thisis the test that you scare Crow
and Dorothy and Toto and this isthe currently lion pulling the

(39:48):
raft. Yeah, to get through debt.
I see that's all of them workingtogether. Thank you so much for
showing us all the picturesyou've been drawing and Mars.
How did you know that car wasready.
For something that was morefantastical, that you know,
because sometimes the ideas canscare younger children, because
we start with reality. And thenwe move on to you know more

(40:10):
fantastical books when they'reyou may be moving into the
second plane. What did younotice? Hollywood Wizard of Oz,
she kept on noticing a littlewicked magnet that I have on the
left. So she kept on asking andasking about the story about why
it was the way it was thecharacter green. And what was

(40:30):
the story about so I startedtelling her about the story of
wicked actually the musical. Andso she was so interested with
the idea. So I told her that itwas actually from L Frank once
we could lizard device. Yeah,that's beautiful. Because it's
so fun to see them changing. Youknow, and I guess we've talked a

(40:51):
lot about the second plane childand the child who's you know,
making these discoveries and thebigger world. But yeah, it
wasn't very long ago, that carwas doing, you know, things that
were more based in reality.
Actually, it's still trial anderror, because after the
marvelous Wizard of Oz, I mean,sorry, The Wonderful Wizard of
Oz. We were thinking about whatto read next. So I was thinking

(41:12):
maybe Alice in Wonderland, Iasked my friends what he could
recommend. So they said, okay,Alice in Wonderland, and we
tried it, I kind of told herwhat the story was about. So she
was interested. But then when Iwas reading the story just
wasn'tclicking for us, I guess. Yeah.

(41:36):
It wasn't a fit for us. Yeah.
And then fit me. I felt like I'mmissing me.
You. Okay, so we said, Okay,that's it. We're going to put
that aside for now. And we'lllook for something else. Right?
Yeah. And then that's themarvelous magnifiers. But I

(41:57):
can't like it, also. So we'restill looking. But one of my
favorite books with my childrenaround your age was the famous
five, they go off and somepretty cool adventures. So maybe
that's the series you might wantto look into. There's the secret
seven, and then the famous fiveis when I feel like,

(42:21):
okay, you're interested withthat? Famous Five. Okay, you can
have a look, I wish that youlive closer, because then you
could borrow one of our books,and you could see if you liked
it, but I'm sure you'll be ableto find a library or something
like that. And what I love isthat we've discussed so many
different things from birds tomaster drawing and books. And
what about poetry? I believethat sometimes you study some

(42:45):
poetry and make poetry puzzles,I'd never heard of poetry
puzzles until I was doing someresearch for this podcast. So we
just have, I just printed theseout. It's just strips of the
lines of the poem. When westart, it's usually four lines,
usually bigger four lines perstrip. But these ones a cut the

(43:08):
cut them already. So it's justtwo lines for strip. And it's
like you said a while ago,because
it's a game that you play,too. So she likes putting
together the strips to meet thepoem she can. There's also a
control card, this one that masis holding up is like the whole

(43:28):
poem. You know what? And thenyeah, so she likes putting the
puzzle pieces together, shelooks at the control part, which
is the whole poem, if she wantsto check that. And she also
likes drawing the poem. I loveit. There's so many different
ways to read poetry. There'salready two poems, we collect

(43:48):
that so we know which oneyou're using just a little
wooden pig to hold themtogether. That keeps it
organized. Thank you.
Good thing, we did the this zoomhere downstairs exterior
thinking of doing it upstairswith the thing we did here. So

(44:09):
you can just get from theshelves. Right? Exactly. And we
can describe for the people whoare listening exactly what you
wanted to show us is reallybeautiful. And I also love that
you know, at the moment we can'tget out and explore the greater
world and you like finding outabout islands and inlets and
lakes and things like that. Sohow are you making these
discoveries now that you're athome a bit more? Okay, so I

(44:32):
learned aboutfrom books, sometimes in the
internet, and I go outside,sometimes I also had to go to
trips. And guys you already haveone trip, right? Yeah. I also
made the island rig and waterfultrees. You made them. How did

(44:55):
you like betrays you?
We had a lady get trees didn'thave water. Yeah, just the cover
of a tin can protect the water.
For the one, the island, weplanted one rock, and then it
became an island. The other withthe lake, I put the many, many

(45:16):
rocks around water, we put inwater. Then next to the river,
you put that many, many rocks ontwo sides, and then click Add
water. Next, the waterfall welike had pegs set with different
sizes, protected roles was andthen put a trace on it. Then

(45:37):
click Add water. And then thewater spilled all the way down.
So even though you can't getout, you can you know, work
these out at home and haveconcrete ways of making
discoveries about all of thedifferent types of land and
water forms. Thank you. Thatsounds really beautiful. I'm
really very envious of yourhomeschooling. I wish my school

(45:58):
had been so interactive andyeah, so fun. And that you got
to be with your mom. And I had aquestion now for your mom, is it
okay, if I asked her a questionor two? Yeah. Okay.
Thank you for your break. Yourbreak? Yeah, it's been a lot of
talking. Thank you so much.
And I guess I was wondering, howdo you find that balance between

(46:22):
helping her and stepping backand letting her make the
discoveries for herself? Youknow, because we don't want to
constantly correct them? What doyou find the right balance for
you? Yeah, I think that's one ofthe biggest help that I can give
is really to resist the urge tohelp all the time. Because as
adults resisting the urge tointerfere, even when you think

(46:44):
that you're helping or even whenthere's a faster you think
there's a faster way to dosomething. Or even when you see
that they're struggling andmaking mistakes, I think
you really have to sit on yourbite your lip a little. So that
you give really give that spaceand grace for struggles and
mistakes as she or the childexplores her own process. And I

(47:08):
think making room for the trialand error to really enter really
celebrated Actually, it's reallyabout the mindset of the adult.
Right? It's a lot of it ismindset shift. And I think
making room for the trial. Anderror helps us help the child to
have that having a snackhelps us help the child

(47:31):
cultivate what Maria Montessoriwas seeing to help them
cultivate that friendly, feelingtowards error to have that
compassionate relationship. AndI think that's one of my biggest
goals. And so when you look atthat goal, everything else is on
the sidelines, and you just lookat the goal, how can I help her
have that fulfill that kind ofrelationship with error is

(47:56):
growing up? I was it wasn't likethat. For me. I was always
scared of making mistakes. Sowhen she comes to me with a
mistake, I asked, Is it amistake? Or is it a problem that
can be fixed? And if it is, doyou want to fix it yourself? Or
do you want my help? Becausethere's value in both. I think
there's value in letting thechild fix his own mistakes, her

(48:18):
own mistakes, and also value incommunicating to the child that,
you know, you can come to mewith your mistakes. and here we
can figure it out together, Itell her there's joy in both.
There's joy in fixing your ownproblems. And there's also joy
in having someone help someonethere to help you, right. And
when I'm asked for help, I amnot going to judge if the help

(48:41):
she's asking of me is somethingshe can actually do for herself.
I'm not going to say, Oh, that'seasy, you can do that for
yourself doesn't matter. Thatdoesn't matter to me, what
matters to me is that I am ableto communicate that at any time.
She decides, or she realizes andshe decides that she needs help.
She can ask it from me now andalways. So that's what's

(49:04):
important for me and I don'treally sweep in and say, Okay,
this is the help that I'm goingto give you because this is the
help that I think you need. Iasked her. Okay, you need help,
what kind of help do you need?
And because I also think there'svalue there that letting the
child if she can figure out andcommunicate

(49:28):
what what it Where is she havingthe difficulty? Where is the
challenge and from there, seehow can I support her? And also,
when I do offer help, it usuallycomes as a suggestion. So this
is my suggestion. Do you want totry my suggestion? Or do you

(49:48):
have another idea? Did mysuggestion remind you of
something else that you thinkmight work because my
suggestions my ideas will notalways work? And so that's
that's what I tell herDo you want? This is my
suggestion? Do you want to tryit? Do you want to try and find
out if it will work? And so thechoices are still up to her.
Right? Yeah. And I think ittakes a lot of trust as a parent

(50:10):
to think even though I'm not,you know, controlling what she's
working on today that they'regoing to cover all the areas. Do
you have any advice for parents?
How? How do you get over thetrust? Is that just witnessing
and observing that she's makingprogress regardless? Or Yeah,
how does it work for you, it'sreally figuring out what kind of

(50:30):
message you want to communicate,because the message and the my
goal, my ultimate goal in doingwhat we do, or co learning is
really communicating certainthings to her like,
communicating that Yeah, errors,error.
So if those are your goals, itdoesn't really matter if you

(50:51):
cover certain areas, at thistime of your homeschooling at
this age, because those are onthe side, there are means to
your goal, which is whathaving a friendly feeling
towards error havingwhat else, all of those
essential skills that you hopeyour child will develop, I

(51:11):
suppose to thinking of hittingan academic. So I think that's
what you really have to thinkabout. So there was this one
time, I think I posted it thatfor an hour, she made, she was
doing embroidery, she was doingsewing, and for a whole hour,
she did like, what 20 stitches,and that was like, an hour and a

(51:34):
halfstitches. And that was an hour
and a half of our afternoonwork. So if you think about it,
we didn't really do anythingconcrete for the day. But she
was able to learn how to manageher frustrations, how to
communicate her frustration. Andso my goal of essential skills

(51:54):
were answered were addressedwere met by that, by that hour
and a half. So for me, that wasan hour and a half well spent,
even if we really didn't spendit doing maps and reading and
other things, right. Becauseit's learning in all the

(52:14):
moments. It's not just theacademics, and I love the
process over the product. And somany things that we've got to
enjoy learning from Cara and youtoday, you wanted to show us a
very long bead chain here.
It's a B chain100 get. So if you just want to
make a square,then you need a perfect square.

(52:40):
But if you pull it up and try tomake a square it's going to make
it's going to look like this 100Square, right. And the last
thing I wanted to ask you maswas about the prepared adults
because it's often the work thatwe need to do on ourselves so

(53:02):
that we can create this spacefor them to have space to time
to explore, to go on their owntimeline, all those kinds of
things. Is there any thing thatyou've worked on the most to
prepare yourself as the adultone of the things that I found
out during the quarantine was Iactually needed a space for
myself as well. Because asadults, we try to as Montessori

(53:25):
ends, we try to prepare theenvironment for the child. But
sometimes you forget that wealso need that space to to
separate ourselves and to, tostudy to reflect. So that was
important for me finding thatout this current theme because
during the quarantine, we alsowe had certain things that we

(53:47):
move things around so I had tomake space for myself. So it's
so important to take care ofourselves
and not be overwhelmed by allthe pictures on Instagram and
things like that of whateveryone else is doing and to
really follow your own childRight. Right. It has I have been
working on also curating my timethe way I spend my time the way

(54:11):
I spend my time in social showssocial media. So those things
are so beautiful. Is there anylast things that you would both
like to tell us before we endour conversation there last
thing that you want to sharewith your small Okay, none for
Kyra.
Thank you so much, Cara, for allof the wisdom that you've shared

(54:31):
with us today. I've reallyenjoyed hearing about your
Montessori journey. And Mars foryourself. Yeah, for myself. I
think I really always just echoMaria Montessori is follow the
child. I think a lot of ourwe're adults we're always so

(54:52):
scared aboutfollowing following the child
without knowing what pathThey will lead us. But there's
adventure there. And I inviteeveryone to take it, to
celebrate it. And to not be tooafraid. That's beautiful. Thank
you. I have so enjoyed gettingto meet you actually, finally,

(55:13):
after all these years, and yeah,we can't wait to see all the
other things that Cara continuesto get interested in and seeing
you grow alongside of us aswell. Oh, my God did you want?
Because I was telling her thatyou wrote the book, I showed her
the book. So she was thinkingshe can she ask you some
questions? Of course, you've gotsome questions for me, of

(55:36):
course, I would love to answeryour question. Okay. She listed
down some a few questions thatshe has. Now. How big is it?
Oh, that's a really goodquestion. It took six months to
make that book sorry, not even awhole year, we worked very, very

(55:57):
hard 12 hours a day. And we didit by Kickstarter. So when you
have a, you sell a book, and youhave a total of they grew up
very fast. So I was veryanxious. But it actually wrote
itself very easily. Because I'veworked in the classroom for
many, many years. And I wrotedown all the questions that
parents asked me, and I justanswered them as if they was

(56:17):
standing next to me. And I writeit as I speak. So it's very easy
to read. And yeah, it's verylogically organized. So
hopefully, it's very helpful forpeople as well.
What inspired you to meet him?
Ah, so I wrote this book,because parents kept asking me
what books should I read aboutMontessori and I'd say, okay,

(56:38):
read this bit about this partand read this part about this.
And I had to keep referring themto things. And then there was
some books that I liked aboutparenting, but don't read this
chapter because I don't agreewith this bit. And then I
decided, what if I just puteverything I know in one book,
and I couldn't believe myselfthat it was really an
encyclopedia for the Montessoritoddler by the time I finished?
Why was crying in making yourbook.

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The most challenging part isreading the editing, you have to
read the book again and again,and again to make sure that you
don't make any mistakes. Andonce you read it a few times,
you don't even notice if you'vespelled something wrong, or
sometimes they slip in whenyou're placing illustrations and
things. So the first time wesend it out, there were a couple
of typos in there. And theediting part is my least

(57:24):
favorite is reading it back andback and back many times. But
other than that, it was actuallya joy to write and collaborating
with Yoko on the illustrationson the design layer was super
fun, because I would send her myideas, and she had been to my
classes with her son. So shereally knew a lot about the
Montessori approach and how Iworked with Montessori. And when
I sent her an idea should sendit back. And it was even more

(57:44):
beautiful than I could have evenimagined.
When you do it to Facebook, um,I guess I just had a lot of
responsibility to everyone whowanted to purchase the book. So
I was just thinking about them.
And when you think about thegoal that you want to achieve,
then everything else just flowsinto place and trusting that it

(58:05):
will all will all be in the wayit will be. And now the book is
reach many people including allthe way over to the Philippines.
So I'm very excited about that.
Yes, it's been translated indifferent languages.
Feel when?
How did I feel when I wasfinished? Oh, yeah, that was

(58:27):
amazing. The day that we openedit up, and it was a real book,
it was a very special becausewhen the very first edition was
published here in theNetherlands, by a local printer
who uses sustainable printing,so we'd hand picked all the
papers so that it wassustainable as well. And to hold
that book in our hands. It wasamazing. It was a very beautiful

(58:49):
feeling to be able to hold it upand say we made this and we're
really proud of what we puttogether. It's a real
achievement. writing a book isno joke.
You're writing some books ofyour own. Oh,
not quite finished. That's okay.
I can't wait to hear what car iscoming back with now.
Oh, okay. Did you want to readit to her?

(59:13):
Hold it up. It's hard to say thepicture isn't a book that you
wrote. Yeah. It's kind of sad.
Sad ego maybe Yeah, you can justtell her the story because you
see the pictureson a forest once upon a flourish
on the floor. Okay. And go flew.

(59:33):
Eagle flew and she can't see thepicture so well. Maybe we can
get a picture. Oh, just youcould send me the pictures. I'd
love to do that. I can put thepictures along with the show
notes.
Mr. Eagle was shot Mr. Eagle wasshot because eagles are being
coached in the Philippines. Andactually ego a man check that

(59:58):
Mr. Ego ranking himgo off to a place. He was
carryall angrily Oh, the end,Cara's book so everyone keep
your eye out for Cara's book maybe coming out somewhere soon in
your part of the world. AndCara, thank you so much for

(01:00:20):
taking the time to show us allyour Montessori work. Oh, you
wanted to tell her about yourteaching the dog? Yeah, before
the king doll No. We went toSingapore to meet in girdle and
then we went to a talk of ganggoing down. And as they said I

(01:00:41):
couldn't come in really it'sonly eight and up. So I was
crying softly because I thoughtthat I wanted c gang gang. But
then then said he will just giveup his ticket. And eventually
they said, okay, he can go inand I said for over longer than

(01:01:06):
three hours. I've heard drinkJane Goodall speak and I'm not
surprised you sat still forthree hours actually is a power
house is in a mid 80s andtraveling all around the world.
And we can't wait till she's onthe road again. I want this year
in Cupertino. Yeah, because shewas seeing mom It was so
impersonal. Because she was justspeaking from the stage. And she

(01:01:30):
wants to DVT doctor her moreperson in a year.
That would be very special. Ihope that one day you get to
interview Jane Goodall and havea personal conversation with
Okay, are you ready to saygoodbye? Yes. Well, thank you
again. Everyone. Love manga.
Sorry. They will I'm sure theywill continue to love button
one. Sorry. Bye.

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I love that conversation somuch. Well, I guess I love every
conversation with Montessorichildren. And I'll drop the
links to my other Instagram andblog in the show notes. And you
can continue to follow along ontheir Montessori journey. And
now it's time for our listenerquestion. And today's question
is from Jenna. My question foryou is do you have any
recommendations regardingresources or training for

(01:02:27):
educators who do not intend onworking in a Montessori school,
but would still like to approachteaching in a Montessori way. I
work as a teacher in a publicelementary school in Canada. And
we'd love to have a betterunderstanding of the Montessori
approach to early numeracy andliteracy learning. I'm
specifically looking forresources for students in the
three to 60 range. So thanksvery much, Jenna, for your
question. And yes, I'm sure thatthere are many books that you

(01:02:49):
can buy to give you all themonstery lessons for early
numeracy and literacy. Or youcould probably find them online.
But I'd say that while theMontessori method does have like
amazing ways to teach maths andreading, like it will blow your
mind. It's actually just for mesuch a holistic system, that
it's hard to just take a few ofthese skills and present them in
a non monetary class. I justkind of can't imagine how that

(01:03:12):
would work so easily because butwhen I say it's holistic, it
works on the child's freedom tochoose. It works on scaffolding
each step on the next, eachchild working on their own
timeline, having childrenworking at their own pace and
younger children learning fromolder children. And like things
building on each other, likepractical life activities have
skills that have indirectpreparation for later activities

(01:03:35):
in maths and reading. So thatis, to me a little bit more
difficult. But that said, what Ido think would be totally
possible is to begin toincorporate the Montessori
principles in a non Montessoriclassroom. So say you need to
teach a particular topic oneday, you could ask yourself, How
can I get the children toparticipate in this learning
rather than me standing at thefront of the classroom and

(01:03:56):
teaching it to them? So howcould they make this discovery
for themselves? And I think thateven without Montessori
materials, this is a huge partof the Montessori approach.
And another thing would be tobuild a culture that if you
don't know something, how can wefind it out? And not just like
googling the answer, butactually asking someone in the
community or looking it up in abook or going to the library or

(01:04:18):
setting up an experiment. So Ithink that would be really
lovely as well. And other partsof one story that you could
incorporate would be things likehow you're actually speaking
with the children as theeducator, like seeing each child
is unique, how you can meetchildren's needs children who
learned faster and the childrenare going Slower, slower, and
how can you try and find ways toactually make sure that they're

(01:04:41):
all learning. And I think a bigpart of that would be just
building mutual respect in theclassroom. Like I respect the
children, and they admire andrespect you. So you might
already be doing all of this.
But another thing would be tobuild this like supportive
culture in your class wherechildren are learning to help
each other like even in mytoddler class.
I've seen children who are twoand a half years old, and they

(01:05:02):
help another child to pick upall the pieces that have
something that's fallen down. Ormaybe they go and get the tissue
for someone's crying. And thiscomes a lot from, you know,
modeling the things, we'reteaching compassion, where it's
showing each other that, youknow, feelings are important,
and we all help each other. Andso in a regular classroom, we
could think about how you canalso build that type of

(01:05:22):
community aspect, because that'ssuch a huge part of being in
school, not just learning thefacts. And if you do have to
give tests in your school, Ieven always wonder if you could
use these tests in a way wherethe children aren't just rote
learning to pass them, butasking questions that really
help them demonstrate what theyhave learned. And most
importantly, I think like usingthe test, not to see like just

(01:05:46):
how the children are doing, buthave we actually taught them
well enough, and to go back andreview the lessons with them,
maybe in a different way untilthey've mastered those skills.
So it's basically the test isshowing you what they haven't
learned yet what we need to goback and keep learning, as
opposed to when my children wereno longer in Montessori, and
they were in regular highschool, they had a test. And
often the teacher didn't even gothrough the test. So they knew

(01:06:08):
why they got something wrong andhow they'd get it. Right, you
know, another time. So there'sdefinitely a way I think you
could even approach testing in amore monetary way. Another thing
would be like trying toincorporate real life skills in
the classroom, where thechildren could be making their
own snack or wiping the tables.
Or maybe like having plants inthe classroom that the children
could be in charge of takingcare of, or building like a

(01:06:30):
community garden together. Thatwould be really super fun. But
in the end, I do recommendtaking a Montessori training, if
you have the possibility at all.
I mean, there are so manytrainings. So I'll include a
link that I have on my blog,with some links to different
training centers. And if youjust wanted to get a taste, I
can personally recommend theassistance training with ami.

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That's the associationMontessori internationality.
Because I've actually done thatone myself. And it's a super
comprehensive introduction tothe principles more so than the
lessons, but I think it would bereally helpful if you wanted to
apply some of those ideas thatI've just mentioned. So this
might not have actually been theanswer you were looking for. But
I hope that it's given you someideas that you can already begin
with. And if any of you wouldlike to submit a listener

(01:07:15):
question, you can go to mywebsite, the Montessori notebook
comm and click on the podcasttab, and perhaps your question
will be selected for a futureepisode. So that's it for today.
And don't forget that you cannow pre order our new book The
Montessori baby, which I cowrote with Jennifer, who's a
deca. I love that people whodon't have babies, buying it as
gifts for friends who areexpecting a baby. And it makes

(01:07:38):
me super excited that more andmore people are going to have
the information to be able toapply the Montessori principles
from birth. And I'm so happywith how it turned out. And just
like the Montessori title, it'swritten in a way that's easy to
read. It's beautifully designed.
It's got gorgeous illustrationsby Sandy fund loan. And yeah,
it's super comprehensive. Ithink it's over 270 pages. With
that. I'm also super handychecklists, like the few things

(01:08:00):
that you'll actually needmonitoring activities for the
first 12 months and a month amonth guide which you can also
use as a reference as well.
I'll be back next Friday withthe conversation with Gabrielle
from LA Montessori. He's basedin Brazil and he has the largest
online platform there. And Ilearned something every time I

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talked to him so you are notgoing to want to miss it.
Everyone. I hope you have alovely week until next Friday.
Thanks for joining me for theMontessori notebook podcast. The
podcast was edited by Luke Davisfrom film Bravo media and
podcasts are by here goingto find out more about me and my
online courses visit theMontessori notebook comm follow

(01:08:41):
me on Instagram at theMontessori notebook for pick up
a copy of my book The Montessoritoddler for its new pre call the
Montessori baby from your localbookstore, Amazon or where books
are sold. They're also availableas ebooks, audio books, and have
been translated into over 20languages. I'll be back in a
week with more Montessoriinspiration. And in the

(01:09:02):
meantime, perhaps you'll join mein spreading some more peace and
positivity around the world.

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