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Speaker 1 (00:18):
Welcome to the
Morning Formation interviews and
hilarious skits.
He's the creative force behindthe job balloon show, so I want
to dive in the world of hisviral content and his concepts
behind comedy, because hedefinitely caught my attention
to the point where I was justbinge watching all of his
content uh, all in one evening,and I I love it.
(00:39):
Whenever you have something newuh, job balloon it is I'm
instantly on it, like I have mynotification set, like you
posted and you're uploaded, man,because it's just so hilarious
and I love how you catch peopleoff guard.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thank you, bro.
What an intro.
I'm flattered, I'm honored.
This is awesome.
Uh, yeah, you're killing it,dude.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I'm excited to be
here you know, I I caught up
with you when you're on yourlive and I just threw it out
there like yeah, like I justsaid, hey man, like I love your
content, would you comeinterview?
And I was absolutely shockedwhen you were like yeah, I'd
love to.
I I've been wanting to do apodcast, no one's asked me, I'm
(01:20):
small time bro.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
I'm just getting
going, so going.
So I'm at 20K and not that it'sall about the numbers.
But yeah, I started this pageonly like maybe like a year and
a half ago, so it was just overa year ago that like one little
video went viral, not to jumpright in, but and that kind of
took off from there.
(01:41):
So, yeah, I'm still at thebeginning stage.
So, doing a podcast, I feellike a fucking celeb.
Can I use the F-bomb?
Yeah, man.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Okay, no man.
I guess we all kind of arehumble and we all feel small
time, but I would imagine youare getting like thousands and
thousands of eyes like on yourstuff.
Man, um, what would you say wasprobably your most viral piece
of content that you've had sofar?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
oh man.
So basically, god I could, Icould make this show so much
longer than we anticipate, somuch to get into.
But uh, I basically got intostreaming through a weird
roundabout way.
Man, I'm turning this into along answer, but I briefly
worked with Shaggy Too Dope fromInsane Clown Posse, oh yeah,
(02:32):
and because we were both inMichigan, I was pursuing music
and I'm like, okay, I was a fanof them as a kid and I'm like
I'll reach out to them and theyhad a podcast going and I'm like
, you know, maybe musicallysomething can happen from
networking with them, workedwith them for a little while and
, you know, never really wentanywhere.
(02:54):
They didn't really have thebudget to be paying anybody.
So eventually I was able to hopon one of their streams, though
like their live stream onTwitch, and I was like dude.
One of their streams, though,like their live stream on Twitch
, and I was like dude, this issuch a fun outlet, like I just I
don't know, it was just likeletting out my crazy side, just
getting to be totally out there,you know, cause people are
(03:16):
eating it up and I'm like thisis said, there's like no way,
I'm not gonna not pursue this.
Um, started streaming, had likeI don't know six regular people
watching, like nobody you know,for maybe a half a year.
And I'm like, oh, I'll start alittle instagram just to promote
the stream and I'll do littlepromo videos.
(03:36):
Just doing promo videos, I'mlike why don't I just make some
original content?
And I'm like, what, what do youknow?
Just to entertain the fewpeople that were watching.
And then it just kind ofevolved, developed, like I'm
like, what can I do?
And eventually I'm like screwit, I'm just going out with a
cam and just going to talk topeople.
So on the drive over, one littleinsight I got was like shut off
(04:00):
the music, like let's just havea blank slate, you know, leave
some space for ideas to come up.
And I was like let's uh, I knowthis isn't what you asked, but
uh, so I'll get to it.
Um, I was like what if I wasgonna call Jabaloon Show already
, because that was my nickname,that's what I was using for the
(04:22):
name of my music, and it wasjust an idea that had been
kicking around forever to dosomething, do like comedy
sketches called Jabaloon Show,probably in my back pocket for
like 10 years anyway.
So I went out there and I'mlike what if I just ask people
like to pretend to be fans ofthe show, like that's where it
started from?
I'm like what if I just go, Iask people to say you know, to
(04:42):
uh pretend like they know theshow and just see if they'd go
along with it, you know, andjust make it kind of awkward and
put them on the spot, obviouslyletting the audience know that
they don't really know, you know, and um, and then I'm like, oh
yeah, and then then what if Isay reveal that the show's
something like reallyoff-putting that they wouldn't
want to be associated with.
So immediately it was like I'llgo up to presumably straight
(05:05):
dudes and say it's about hot,naked dudes, you know like, and
see the reaction.
So it came from there.
Also, I was like whitesupremacist.
I could say it's a whitesupremacist show.
I could say it's satanic show.
So I, you've seen all the stuff.
So I, you know, I've done allthose things and always trying
to think up of new offensive,off-putting things and um, so
(05:28):
the first one go ahead,something, something completely
off the wall, yeah yeah, yeah,something that would just throw
them offa little elicited reaction.
Yep and um man, I went out tothe third ward in Milwaukee,
this little walking area whichsomehow always has foot traffic,
no matter how blistering coldit is.
It was like I don't know, itwas probably like 15 degrees or
(05:51):
something.
It was really cold and I'm justlike, let me give it a try, let
me just go to people.
I was so nervous.
I'm like I can't believe I'mjust going to approach people.
This sucks, you know, which isstill basically how I, how I
feel when I go out.
But, um, yeah.
So I saw this dude walking byand, uh, I'm like, okay, ask him
, ask him.
And I, I backed out, um, Ichickened out.
(06:15):
And then, um, you know, asked acouple other people.
They mostly just laughed, theygot it was a prank and it was
like, okay, maybe I can use that.
And uh, then I saw that sameguy again.
I don't know why I was singlinghim, maybe I just had a vibe or
something, I don't know.
He was just like 30 somethingyear old black dude, tall guy,
was like I don't know, um, so Isaw him walk by again.
(06:38):
I'm like, go for it, you neverknow what, if this could be the
one that uh takes off and youmiss it.
You know.
I'm like what?
What if this is?
You know, I don't know.
I just had that thought thatmaybe you know like I could be
passing up a huge opportunity ifI don't just like nut up and do
it.
So anyway, I asked him like Istill refer to him as the hell,
(07:00):
no guy, you know, and it was thefirst time like some of these
lines just came outspontaneously.
So I think they came out sogenuine because they were just
off the cuff and uh just ranthrough the basic format.
If people haven't seen it.
I was like hey, bro, would youmind saying you're watching the
job balloon show?
He he's like what's that?
I'm like it's my show.
He's like you're watching thejob balloon show.
(07:21):
I'm like oh, do you like thejoboon show?
He's like I've never seen it.
I'm like well, just if you canjust kind of pretend.
And he's like uh, yeah, yeah,I'm like you love the jabaloon
show.
I remember it all by heart.
He's like yeah, I love thejabaloon show.
I'm like all right, and I'mstumbling on my words.
I'm like for some reason I'mthrowing an amen.
I'm like instead of hell.
Yeah, like I say, now I'm like,instead of hell, yeah, like I
(07:42):
say now I'm like amen.
So I don't even know where itcame from.
I do have some religiousbackground as a youth, but you
know, I'm like super nervous,which apparently you said
doesn't come across, which isgood.
But he says, anyway, I'm likewe'll be right back with plenty
more hot guys right after ourmessages.
And he's like, oh, hell, no,I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh yeah,
(08:07):
that that's the show.
He's like naked guys.
And I was like, um god, I'mdoing, I'm doing black accent,
I'm gonna get canceled.
But, um, he's like naked guys.
I was like, yeah, that's theshow it's.
I was like it's not porn.
He goes it's not porn, I'm likeno.
And then I don't know where itcame from.
Just, I was like it's just sologuys, like I don't know.
(08:28):
Because I thought it would befunny to say, you know, because
it's almost like, if you have totell someone it's not porn,
that's a sign that it probablyis something like porn.
You know what I mean?
like if you're saying it's justsolo guys, like I'm trying to
make it more mild, but it'salmost sounding worse, you know.
So I'm like, uh, yeah, it'sjust solo guys on webcam.
(08:50):
And he's like, oh hell, nah.
And then I just that's how Icut the clip, just for it to end
right on there.
Bad audio, bad production.
I'm just using a selfie stick.
I didn't have an external micand for whatever reason, threw
it up there for my little groupof like maybe a dozen people,
where I think I had like 100followers, but they weren't like
(09:12):
watching it and somehow I don'tremember how quick it happened,
but it just started blowing upLike people just love that clip,
and it just started just Likepeople just love that clip.
And it just started just.
So I think within like a week Ihit like 6,000 followers, which
was huge for me because I'dbeen pursuing music, and so you
(09:38):
can tell I've never been on apodcast because I'm like got to
tell my whole story, but I'dbeen pursuing my music and my
art for years, couldn't get anytraction.
And then I'm like this dumblittle, you know dude joke, it's
like what blows up.
So it hit like 3.6 millionviews andi got the 6 000
followers, and so that's kind ofthe original quintessential
(09:58):
video and that was the first oneI threw up, but that whole
prank, um, you know yeah, that's.
Speaker 1 (10:05):
That's amazing how
you just kind of tripped and
fell and then you fell on somesuccess.
Man, yeah, for folks out therethat haven't gone viral before,
though, I mean, everyone haslike this, this idea that you go
viral.
Now you're making all thismoney Like, do the platforms
really pay that much for goingviral and like having followers?
(10:30):
I mean, have you seen a lot ofgrowth from, like, other other
companies coming in and wantingto work with you?
What would you say about that?
Speaker 2 (10:38):
I, I'm absolutely
deeply in to the hole with this
stuff.
Like no, zero money, um, everyeverything I've done.
I'm like just funneling moneyinto it and just hoping it'll
pay off one day.
But, um, up until recently Ithink.
I mean I've had shirts since Iwas doing music, probably six
(10:59):
years ago I sold maybe two andthen just the other day I sold
two more because I finallystarted advertising it on my new
stuff and um, and so it's alljust been like I have merch, but
it's just giveaway.
I've mailed out like hundredsof stickers for free and
giveaway.
I have, like I had all thismerch before I even had any
(11:19):
success for some reason.
So I coasters and, uh, my cdbuttons, all that.
Um, no, instagram alerts meevery time you can't monetize
this video.
They don't let me monetize anyof my videos.
Tiktok constantly shadow bansthem and turns the sound off,
even for words like genitalia.
I gotta censor out genitalia.
(11:41):
Today it was sound was off.
I had to censor out the wordpenis.
I'm like these are medicalterms, right, and so they don't
let me monetize on Instagram.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
You know, like how in
the world do these guys that do
these?
Because the thing I love aboutwhat you do is that you at least
, at the end of your prank, tellthem it's a prank, that you at
least, at the end of your prank,tell them it's a prank.
I mean, I've seen other videoswhere folks are doing pranks and
they're very questionablepranks that can be possibly
(12:13):
dangerous or violent, yeah, andthen at the end of it all,
they're not telling anyone thatoh, by the way, this is just a
prank, right, like, how arethose guys making it?
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I, I don't know, dude
.
I I see some people's stuff andI'm like not to sound cocky,
but I'm like man, the productionlevel is pretty low, like not
that one's great, but I'm likethey're not getting much of a
reaction and somehow maybe theyjust put in more time, you know,
but um I mean, some of it Ijust don't think is creative,
like going to to lowe's or homedepot and picking a fight with
(12:44):
an old guy, right, like that'snot a, that's not a creative
thing to do, like what you'redoing.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
In my opinion, is is
unique and it's funny because,
like people all the time aremindlessly doing things, right,
you know, putting in a sponsorfor someone and they don't even
know what they're doing, andthen and then you come in and
introduce at the end what it isand they're like whoa, that just
look on their face.
To me that's, that's comedy art.
And so these other guys arejust doing stupid shit, like
(13:13):
grabbing people's carts andslinging it across the island
right right, dude, that's that'sgonna lead to like assault,
like you know.
I mean so, I mean so I don't.
I don't know how these guys aremaking it, man like I.
That's why I love your.
You're like what you're doing,because it's it's all a little
bit more innovatively creative.
So I I just had to ask aboutthat part with it, with the
(13:34):
viral and content contentcreation stuff, and would you
say that, uh, would you say thatyour, your, your future plan is
to stick with content creation,or are you going to kind of do
music and that both?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I'm trying to like
poach some of the job alone,
show followers to be interestedin the music, like I've done a
couple of collab posts with mymusic page.
I think I wanted to be amusician my whole life.
It was my dream and you know, Ispent like three.
I spent a long time trying todo it, but three designated
years where I wasn't workinganother job I was like spending
(14:11):
all my savings.
I was paying my buddy like 10bucks an hour to help me Huge
shout out to my boy, justin, andcouldn't have done it without
him.
But yeah, we'd spend, you know,three hours making a beat, you
know, making a song, spendanother couple hours making a
cool psychedelic visual to gowith it, post it on Instagram,
(14:35):
get like six likes.
I mean just couldn't make anytraction.
Put together this crazy liveshow with visual effects and
lights and strobe and smoke anda confetti cannon, couldn't just
I don't know.
Music business is hard to breakinto and finally, within like
the past two years, I'm like Idon't know if I want to do that.
Like I always want to playmusic and I do it on my stream a
(14:57):
lot and I love it.
But you know, I don't knowdoing the comedy stuff.
But you know I don't know doingthe comedy stuff.
It's been fun.
And to what you said before, Iknow some of these pranksters
are so mean and it's such a likea militia.
It's like punch you in the face, just kidding you know like
(15:18):
yeah, I've seen these guys.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
I've seen these guys
like square up on people before
and I'm like, wow, when it getsto that point, like that's no
longer to me.
That's not funny.
Like that's, that could be mydad, that could be my grandpa,
exactly, that's not cool.
Like so I don't, I don't get it, I don't know if those guys are
.
That's why I asked about the,about the money part, because,
(15:40):
right to me, it's got to beworth it to do something that
vile to another person.
Man, yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Side note, I would
love a sponsor, though it would
be awesome.
I don't know how to go aboutdoing it.
I'm just learning as I go.
Lots of trial and error, butthe mean stuff.
To be honest, in the beginningI wasn't telling people it was a
prank, you know, and I wasletting them leave Like the Hell
Nah guy.
To be honest, in the beginningI wasn't telling people it was a
prank, you know, and I wasletting them leave.
Think, like the hell no guy.
He left saying if you post this, I'm going to sue you, I don't
(16:10):
want to be on any gay websitewhatever.
And I never told him because Ijust thought there was more like
integrity.
I don't know what I was thinking.
And then at some point I'm likethis feels mean and I realize
like people also really like tosee them the reveal and see
people laugh, laugh it off.
I'd say one in 30 people getreal upset, which I do feel bad
(16:31):
about.
But I kind of go to like youwant to make an omelet, got to
crack some eggs, like I knowit's going to piss off the
occasional person, but for thelaughter and I feel like the
community of the job alone showlike is so positive, like it's a
positive vibe All the.
It seems to attract a lot ofpositive people.
So, yeah, I'm happy to keep itmore positive.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Yeah, man and uh, and
you kind of brushed over it
earlier, but you talked aboutworking with Insane Clown Posse.
There's huge up where you're atin the Detroit area, right,
right, how did you meet them?
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yeah, well, I God.
Another little bit ofbackground.
My parents have a pie business.
They started when I was eight,so they've been in the pie
business like three plus decadesOut of Metro Detroit.
I try not to connect it toomuch to my stuff so I won't go
into too many details, but justsince you know, don't
necessarily want thatassociation for their sake, but
(17:34):
they I sent them a pie.
I was like, I reached out tothem and I go hey, do you guys
want a?
Um, can I send you some pie?
Just like.
I don't know.
It's been a good foot in thedoor.
Like you know, my parents gaveaway a ton of free pie getting
their foot in the door and eventhough it's not related to food,
like you know, I'm like um.
(17:54):
So we did some pies.
We decorated them up with liketheir face, you know, with ICP
clown makeup and with chocolateand made little you know, shaped
it all out.
They looked pretty cool andtheir producer was like hey,
actually do you think we couldfilm something at the pie shop?
You know, just kind of do likea pie baking tutorial.
So they came on to do it.
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Shaggy Toot Open his partner atthe time it wasn't the other guy
from ICP, but it was his likecomedy partner that they were
doing a podcast and vlogs.
And I was like, man, this isour chance.
So me and my boy, justin, werelike let's just go all out, like
we had again funneling moneyinto it, hoping it'll pay off,
like you know, know Baker'sstyle old fashioned hat that
said Shaggy, and the other onewith the other guy's name and,
uh, made this like by hand,concocted this pie slingshot
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Cause they're just into likewacky stuff.
I'm like they can shoot eachother with pies, just like made
a real elaborate day.
And they, they were like, um,real impressed by it.
And they're like, wow, you alsoedit video.
Do you want to come work for usfor free?
And so I was like, yeah, likeI'll eventually need to get paid
, but for now I'm like man,shaggy Chewbacca was like
(19:09):
childhood hero, you know.
So I'm like who knows where itwill go?
And indirectly it led to allthis other stuff.
If I hadn't done that, itwouldn't have got to the uh job
balloon show, you know what I?
Speaker 1 (19:25):
I remember when I was
in high school in ohio there
was a lot of guys that loved icp.
Yeah, I mean, they were they.
That was back when we had thebig one speaker shoved into our
trunks, yeah, you know, and alot, all that bass and
everything.
So that's fascinating, man,because I know that they're.
They're huge celebrities, um, inin the midwest specifically, I
mean all over, but right, mainlyin the midwest, for sure,
(19:48):
definitely michigan ohio so,aside from music, do you do any
other type of art um, or what Iwould call art like creative
processing, or not not reallymusic, comedy stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
I'm thinking about
dipping my toe into standup.
I'm 40.
I know I'm too old to reallyget anywhere with it, but I'm
like I kind of just want thechallenge and I think it would
be fun and I'd like to developthe skillset, like what if we
can throw a job of Palooza oneday?
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I was honestly
thinking that too.
Man, I think you have a knackfor comedy.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
Oh, thanks, thank you
.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
I really do, and you
mentioned earlier about the
anxiety.
I mean, I'm shocked to hearthat you have anxiety when
you're walking up to strangerson the street.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Man.
Even, like yesterday or twodays ago, I went out still after
doing it so much.
I'm like in my car I'm like, ohfuck, this sucks, like it's the
one part.
I'll be honest, I don't reallyreally like doing that part, but
the payoff is so big so I justforced myself into it.
Now I've been live streaming itand that does help because it
encourages, like encourages meto like push it further because
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there's people watching and ittakes the anxiety off, because
normally it's like I'm going upto someone I'm like, okay, okay,
just say it, just say it.
And then I say it, do the thing.
Usually while I'm in it I'm nottoo nervous.
You know, once I'm immersed inthe interaction but then
afterward, even if it goes good,I'm walking away like what did
I just do?
But if I know I got footage,it's like a total rush and a
(21:20):
high, and then I'm editing it.
I'm so excited for everybody tosee it.
So it pays off.
But yeah, going out there, I'mlike I'm walking away from each
interaction, especially the oneswhere they get upset.
You know, I'm just walking away, just, you know, festering with
anxiety.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, I'm during this
podcast because I recorded this
on video too, I'm gonna throwup.
I I downloaded one of your mostrecent uh content, uh, that
where you're on the street andyou're talking to a guy and he,
he says, yeah, watch thejabaloon show.
And then you mentioned, uh, thenumber one show for stds in
milwaukee.
And he just like, he's likewhat?
And he goes you got somethingon your eye or whatever.
That's so, so funny.
(22:01):
So I'm going to make sure throwthat one up on the screen here
for folks to just get areference for Nice.
How do you think you, you, youhandle the, the anxiety, though,
like, how, like, what's, what'syour best method?
Like, do you do any type of CBD?
Do you like meditate?
Do you breathe?
(22:21):
Like, what do you do to getthrough that?
Sure, sure, because a lot ofpeople are stage fright.
You know, even getting on acamera like this is really
difficult, even for me.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Yeah, yeah, man, I
wish I had a great answer.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
You're still trying
to figure that out, huh?
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, I think a lot
of it is just forcing myself to
do it.
I'm just letting my willoverride my emotions and be like
I'm going into this, diving inthe deep end of the pool, and
just kind of push myself to doit.
Yeah, I don't really havebetter advice than that.
I am on some head meds, but itdoesn't really help, while I'm
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sure to some extent you havelike your natural coping
(23:21):
mechanisms to get yourself tothe edge and then take that jump
right Sure.
I've always liked performing andstuff I think I would for like
my family and things, and I didsome plays in high school Like I
liked getting up on stage anddoing that.
Like evoking a laugh fromaudience is obviously like a
huge high.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
But yeah, I really
think you gotta just it probably
sounds corny but like um, yougotta force yourself to take
those risks and to push yourself, you know, and test your limits
and go for it and, um, you know, bigger risk and the potential
for reward yeah, I mean, ascliche as that sounds, you're
(24:05):
right, I mean even for me doingthis podcast, I know that
friends, co-workers, are gonnasee me, they're gonna laugh,
they're gonna make stupidwhatever, but you just kind of
have to not not care, like,because those same people become
fans, fans at some point, or atleast they're watching your
stuff and they're they're like,how I wish I could do that too,
right?
Speaker 2 (24:23):
so, um, no, yeah well
, you being in the military I'm
sure it was you know being sentoff to iraq or even signing up.
I mean tons of pushing yourselfto the limits yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Yeah, the first time
when I was a young adult I had
to stand in front of like aplatoon or an entire company
like a platoon is around 30 to40 soldiers standing in front of
them and like talking and orstanding in front of 300
soldiers talking is that's tough?
Yeah, really tough, especiallywhen you don't know your ass
(25:00):
from a hole in the ground andyou're like 22 years old, right,
you don't know anything, butyou're pretending you do so.
Yeah, I mean, but you alwayshave that in the back your mind
of being judged.
I don't think that ever goesaway right uh, that's that.
That's definitely a bigchallenge, but, um, how are you
planning on transitioning intocomedy?
Have you looked into any localcomedy?
Speaker 2 (25:22):
are you gonna do
stand-up or yeah, I I did one
open mic.
Um, the main thing I'm proud ofmyself of is I wasn't that
nervous I I honestly think it'sfrom doing all the street stuff
that uh, like I I think I have Idon't know numb or callous
(25:44):
probably isn't the right word,but like just sort of let go a
lot of that social anxiety.
Like going up on stage wasn'tprobably as hard as going up to
a stranger, you know.
So I think it sort of you knowwhere it worked in a little bit.
Um, and so I did an open micand I was proud of myself that I
didn't do very well, but Ididn't like beat myself up
afterward, which is really easyto say, oh, you know, feel like
(26:06):
a failure or something.
And then somebody asked me tojudge a roast battle, so I got
to do that and be on the mic alittle bit and I think, yeah,
then the Jabba Palooza thing waslike it's like a half joke
because I don't expect any kindof festival, but I'm like, hey,
maybe once I hit 100K followers,if I do, like could rent out a
(26:27):
bar, get a dozen people there,and like we could have a talent
show.
We could have male stripperswalking around in Speedos with
hors d'oeuvres, like I don'tknow, just picturing, like
making like a really wacky party.
Um, and I'm like I want to havethat skill set of being able to
be up in front of people andyou know, like I do on stream
and kind of let out my, just toget to be free and let out my
(26:50):
silly side and um, so, yeah, I,I'm trying to get to another
open mic, I'm gonna, I'm gonnamake myself do it here
eventually.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Yeah, I definitely
think it's all about growth.
It's all about growth.
You know, whether man, asmorbid as it sounds, whether
you're going through a divorce,like I have a buddy going
through divorce right now and Isimply told him, I said, look,
as long as you come out theother side, a better man, that's
all that matters.
And it's the same thing with,like, this podcasting thing I'm
doing, with what you're doingwith content creation, pushing
(27:20):
the limits, um, and coming outevery single week just a little
bit better man.
And it sounds like your anxietyand your your I don't know if
you call it street fright orstage fright right, uh, is sort
of surpassing going away, man,and I definitely think you have
a knack for comedy.
I was going to mentionsomething to you about the whole
stand-up comedy thing, sure, um, which brings me to your
(27:45):
childhood nickname, um, jobballoon.
Yeah, that's what you go by,right, job balloon.
That'd probably be your yourcomedy bit.
How did that get started?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
yeah.
So I don't know where my momcame up with it, she's just when
I was like a baby, you knowlike one or something, she just
started calling me Jabaloon.
She'd say Jabaloon, but I thinkI was just a fat roly-poly baby
.
My name's Josh.
Somehow just the littleaffectionate nickname Jabaloon
worked out.
So, yeah, I mean mostly I go byJosh on a normal day to day,
(28:16):
but like my family would be likeoh, hey, job, or you know, uh,
job balloon on a Christmaspresent or something.
So they've always used it.
So when I needed a name for mymusic, I was like, just any name
I came up with sounded socontrived and whatever.
And I'm like, well, let's justcall it job balloon because it's
original.
I already identify with it.
(28:36):
Um, it's not like making up aname for myself, like the edge
or something no offense to them,but to YouTube, but uh, you
know so, yeah, so this kind ofjust became the overarching name
for all my content you have aseparate YouTube channel with
your music on it yeah, well, myYouTube.
(28:56):
I have it all on there.
It's the job balloon show onyoutube and then job balloon
music on instagram, and tiktokis my music if people want to
check it out okay yeah, Idefinitely put that down in the
show notes, um, and in the showdescription, um, the.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
The content that you
do, though I wanted to know is
it spur of the moment or is itscripted?
Do you know what questionsyou're going to ask that day?
Do you know, like, where towhere to go, and like what
places do you go to specificallyto to go?
Do this sort of thing?
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, well, I moved
to Milwaukee like two years ago
from Detroit and, uh, justthrough trying it out, have kind
of found a few little areasthat seem to have foot traffic
consistently, you know.
So if there's an event atPfizer Forum, the big arena,
I'll go there.
You know, basketball game orsomething.
Downtown there's always people.
(29:48):
In the third ward, the historicthird ward, there's always
people and mostly, yeah, I tryto take notes now because
getting out there I'm like, wait, what am I going to say?
Which one am I going to?
And I forget.
I revert back to the naked dudes, which is like I want to expand
beyond that.
So occasionally I'll jot itdown.
Since I'm using my phone tostream, I'll jot down like
(30:10):
Satanism, white supremacy, stds,you know, just so I can like
remember it.
And then when I go up, you knowit depends, you know, with
women I don't do anything likesexual related Just seems
inappropriate.
You know I only feelcomfortable doing that to dudes
and maybe I shouldn't, yeah,even to dudes.
But you know, yeah, some ofthem, the white supremacy one is
(30:35):
hard to say People seem to likeit online but it's so dark, I
mean, I'm so the opposite ofwhite supremacy one is hard to
say.
People seem to like it online,but it's so dark, I mean, I'm so
the opposite of white supremacy.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
Yeah, and you know
that if they're, you know, like
9.5 times out of 10, they're notgoing to want to be associated
with that at all.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
You know.
And so what have you?
I've seen a few of your videoswhere you had folks get really
really like pissed off, whereyou had folks get really really
like pissed off and like I thinkone time you had a real old
lady on there and she waswalking across the street and
she got, she got pretty angryabout it and even when you said
it was a prank, she still wasmad about it.
Right, she's like oh, that'snot funny.
And do you remember?
Well, maybe she was older, Iguess, maybe she.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, yeah, really
yeah yeah, so I, I, I don't know
if you saw that you ask yeah,mostly I asked beforehand.
I'm like, is this okay to usefor social media?
Or I just say, do you want tosay this for my youtube?
Speaker 1 (31:28):
and I pretty much
take that as like a you know
they're giving their consent andthat's nice, see, and that's
why I like you, man, because alot of people have the glasses
on now and they're justrecording people.
They don't know it.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
Right Posting them.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Yeah, but you're
you're nice enough to say, hey,
can I use this?
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Right, wow, and
usually, and if they say no
afterward it sucks, becausesometimes I get such a good
thing and it's like catching ahuge fish and throwing it back.
You know, and they somebodyjust the other day it was the
Satanism one, it wasn't even abig deal.
She laughed it off, but thenshe messaged me and asked me not
to post it.
I was so bummed.
It was already edited.
What?
Speaker 1 (32:03):
if you just post it
though, that's just not you.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I'm too afraid.
Well, for one I wouldn't do itjust out of respect to her.
But I posted something thatsomeone.
It was a miscommunication.
I thought they were fine withit because after I revealed they
laughed, but before they knewit was a prank they said you
better not post it.
That's how the cop interactionhappened.
Did you see the cop one?
(32:26):
The body cam?
Yeah, I requested the body camfootage because my footage, even
though I filmed the wholeinteraction yeah, on University
of Wisconsin, Milwaukee's campus, I think I did see that one.
Yeah, that basically I had togo to court twice and this was
like early on, before you know,I don't know, this was like a
(32:47):
year, over a year ago and I hadto go to court.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
I do remember that
one.
Yes, I do remember wheresomebody, somebody went and told
on you and claimed that youwere asking like terrible
questions, like sexual, whateverquestions or whatever, right,
right, it was a guy that.
It was a guy that that thattold on you.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Yeah, yeah, oh so I I
have had the cops called which
was a lie well, no, it was true.
They were like oh, you asked himabout doing gay porn.
Even though the kid knew it wasa prank, he didn't mention that
it was a prank to the cops.
He's like he's asking people todo gay porn because at the end
sometimes they throw in.
You know, have you ever thoughtabout modeling?
Um and uh is just as part ofthe bit.
(33:30):
And basically in front of thejudge, though, the judge was
like I.
I was like I took the videodown.
You know it was amiscommunication and he
dismissed it.
But he was like you better notend up in front of me again.
He's like I'm not gonna golight on you, you better make
sure you have permission, eventhough it's like you know right,
it was a soliciting charge,like job soliciting on campus
(33:54):
and um yeah, that the kid wasclaiming that, that you were
soliciting or something likethat, and you were soliciting
like just as a prank, like a jobwell yeah, but I mean, it
wasn't yeah, soliciting orsomething like that, and you
were soliciting like just as aprank, like a job.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Well, yeah, but I
mean it wasn't, yeah, soliciting
prostitution, soliciting it wasokay.
Yeah, it was really offended.
That's really strange and uhthat that sounds like one of
your worst uh encounters thatyou've had there's two others,
bro.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
There's two others
that stand out two, two
technical assaults.
Nothing bad, nothing, nothing,nothing bad, but the first
punches I ever had to throw inmy life for one of them.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Did someone try to
like smash your camera or what?
Speaker 2 (34:32):
Yeah Well, the first
time a dude before before I was
telling people it was a prank.
So he walked away from thewhole situation, thinking he
ended up on some gay pornwebsite, you know which is my
bad, you know.
And so he saw me like a monthlater and I'm streaming and I
saw I'm like oh, it's this guy.
He's walking up, remember me.
(34:54):
He's like I'm gonna fuck you up, bro.
I'm gonna fuck you up.
I'm like, bro, don't hit me.
That was my first reaction.
I'm like don't hit me, bro,you're on camera.
He's like take that fuckingcamera off.
And I'm like not if you'regoing to hit me bro.
Anyway, I think since thecamera's on, he just sort of
grabbed me and shoved me realhard.
You know no big deal, I uh.
(35:17):
And then I went off justverbally on him.
You know like you privilegedwhite homophobic bitch.
But anyway, I ended up likegoing into his work.
I'm like, yeah, it was, it wasbad.
He ended up coming back and heapologized and immediately do
that Apology totally diffused me.
I'm like listen, I'm sorry too.
He's like I just been gettinganger and anger every day about
it.
I thought I was on that websiteand like, no, it's a prank man.
I'm like I'm sorry and I wentback into his work.
(35:38):
I'm like, no, it was my faultand that was the one another.
The other time this kid I didn'teven prank him.
I asked them if they wanted tobe on my show.
He just sniffed me out andthought I was a troll which I
kind of am, I guess, and try tobe a nice one.
But he, he was like.
(35:59):
He came over.
I said oh yeah, just say you'rewatching the Jabloon show.
He didn't even say anything.
He grabbed my phone and justthrew it into the cement as hard
as he could.
I'm like, what the fuck?
So I pick up my phone.
I'm like what?
And I already was like, don'tgo down the road of just like
picking a fight.
Call the cops, go by the law.
(36:19):
You'd already been to courtover, so I called 9-1-1.
Somehow they go.
You've called the non-emergencyline, please hold, type thing.
So I'm on hold the whole time Igo up to him.
I'm like, bro, you think it'sokay just to throw people's
property?
And he's like get the fuck awayfrom me, troll.
And he takes off his pop andhe's splashes it on me, his uh
lid of his like big gulp orsomething.
(36:42):
and uh, I think he was reallydrunk and, um, he basically just
grabbed a hold of me.
Uh, you know, was like what doyou call that?
Uh, bear hugging me and I'mlike freeze up.
You know, I got like bulliedand stuff, and in school it was
always like a pacifist, neverfought back, even though I have
(37:06):
some karate background, and Iwas like, went into panic mode,
like, oh yeah, just kind ofgoing to get your ass kicked.
I'm like wait a second, don'tget your head together, don't
panic, like you can do something.
And yeah, I mean he did itfirst, so I don't think it would
count as assault on my part.
It was self-defense.
But then I just cracked him inthe back of the head a couple of
(37:27):
times with a punch, which is sounlike me I've never thrown a
punch in my life.
But I think, beside the point,but when you take that bullying
and stuff as a youth and don'tdo anything back, maybe it comes
out when you're 40.
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
You know what, though
, man?
I mean, what you're doing ispretty randomly dangerous,
because you could be on thestreet passing out lollipops,
right, and then you justencounter those people.
Yeah, I mean, you could just donothing wrong except interact.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:59):
And you just don't
know where people are at Sure.
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Sure.
Now I, I'm like dude, I can'trisk getting hurt.
I got a family.
I'm like newly married stepkid.
I'm like I got to be safe fortheir sake.
Like God forbid, I, you know,I've had people.
Somebody said like a couple ofpeople threatened like oh, I,
you know, I would have shot youback in the day.
I would have shot you twice inthe arm, once in the leg.
I'm like Jesus, you know so nowI'm like de-escalate, carry my
(38:24):
pepper spray.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
You got to be careful
, so a lot of times when you're
out there you're by yourself.
I mean, sometimes I see youhave people, someone holding a
camera.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah, very rarely I
get somebody to come out and
hold it for me, but I don't havethat many, you know, any
networking here in Milwaukee, sousually it's with the selfie
stick.
But, um, yeah, a lot of theespecially old clips I I was
paying somebody to to film it,but yeah, it usually is just by
myself yeah and um the uh.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
The other comedy bit
that you do is you do the
surveys.
Right, Right, Right.
And then I noticed you werealso holding up signs Like what
other type of comedy uh bits doyou do besides the the job
balloon show sponsor?
And then right, and then what,like what else do you have or do
you have coming over thehorizon?
Speaker 2 (39:11):
man, I, I just I want
to keep expanding and pushing
it and doing new stuff.
People keep I get the bestreaction from that same type of
bit.
So so I do kind of lean on thatlike stick to the foundation.
But yeah, I did likepanhandling, asking for money
for genital enhancement surgery,you know had a couple of lines
(39:32):
like, oh, I got a baby carrot,blah, blah, blah.
You know, asking the survey.
The survey where you're asking,oh, it's just a health survey.
You know how many hours ofsleep do you get a night?
How many uh, vegetables, fruitsand vegetables do you eat a
week?
How often do you masturbate,how you know?
And then slipping in stuff thatyou slip?
Speaker 1 (39:52):
in it and then you
slip back out of it.
And it's like did he just askme that question?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Right, right, just to
try to get that reaction.
But, man, I got so many otherideas.
I got a whole other project.
It's Church of Pastor Roy.
It's like a crazy.
I started this with my boy,justin, years ago, also never
went anywhere Trying to slip it,been trying to slip it in.
But he's just like a crazySouthern character who's, like
you know, ultra religiouslyconservative and always, just
like you know, preachinghellfire and brimstone and
(40:26):
telling people they're going togo to hell.
And so that's Church of PastorRoy.
If anybody wants to look thatup, I'm proud of them.
I think they're maybe funnierthan Job Balloon Show, but it
hasn't picked up yet.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
I'm going to check it
out for sure.
You know, I don't know if youfigured it out yet, but you know
, as a comedy content creatoryou know folks that do that sort
of thing often walk a fine line.
Have you figured out how tostay funny without burning
yourself out or constantlytrying to feel like you're
outdoing your last video?
Right, that's a challenge right.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, that is a
challenge, because I'm like what
do I got to keep pushing itfurther.
Like now I got this cop videoup.
Like there was a little part ofme that was like should I prank
the judge?
I'm like no, no, no, can't,don't go that far.
Like should I keep the bitgoing while I'm in court?
Because I kept it up with thecops, never told them it was a
prank, you know, kept and thenasked them if they wanted, were
(41:21):
interested in modeling.
So, yeah, I don't know, I'mhoping just by keeping expanding
.
I definitely want to keepstreaming.
I love doing that.
That's like my favorite outlet.
Um, I just have a blast withthe community, you know, like
(41:42):
getting to interact and stuff.
Um, but yeah, I, I had justhave a whole list of like notes
and me and Justin still gettogether like once a week and he
, we just feed off each other'sinspiration.
Like I just, I don't know, Ijust got like endless job
balloon show notes of stuff.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
I want to do.
That's awesome.
I do the same thing too, man.
I sit there and some of thethings I never, I never unpack
or I never put into action, butit's just throughout the day.
I'm thinking about this,thinking about that, and that's
kind of what I've been doing thelast couple of years.
Like, after starting this,everyone's starting a podcast
now, it seems like you'rekilling it though, bro.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
I mean you're a pro,
I'm not a pro dude.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
I am so unorganized.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
No, this is an
awesome interview.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
I appreciate you
being flexible, even with the
scheduling and everything, man,and really this is kind of out
of bounds with what I normallydo, but lately I've been
interested in interviewingpeople that I want to interview.
That I find interesting and thisis like a military podcast, but
I'm the military side of it thepeople that I talk to.
(42:43):
A lot of times there's, um,there's themes to their life,
their character, that are, inpart, to what I've learned when
I was in the military.
So adapt and overcome, which iswhat I'm going to ask you about
here in a minute, cause I knowthat you've you've had a lot of
hurdles, obstacles, setbacks,times where you just wanted to
(43:03):
fucking just sell it all andjust quit, because I know I have
before I felt that way where Iwas like, well, I just I could
just quit and just go play videogames and then, right,
everything would be great, rightso, um, so yeah, I mean it's,
it's a struggle all around to dothis sort of thing, especially,
you know, when anyone can go tobest buy and purchase a
microphone or a camera, um, butoverall you you mentioned a few
(43:28):
different skits that you've done.
Is there a particular skit or apost that you're uh, especially
proud of, even if it didn't goviral yeah, I don't.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
This one always comes
to mind.
It wasn't even really thetypical thing.
The guy just asked like what,what is your show?
And I'm like you know, went inan explanation and I'm like
subtly kind of like it's notporn.
It's not porn.
I was like how does gay blackdudes?
But I'm like, oh, it's not porn, you know.
And he's like it's not porn.
I'm like, yeah, it's just solodudes, you know.
(44:06):
And I'm like referencing,making gestures.
Anyway, his girlfriend iscracking up so hard the whole
time and it's just like it warmsme just to think about it,
because she's just laughing herass off that her boyfriend's
getting asked to do gay porn andlike, I don't know, it was this
awesome black couple.
They were so funny and chilland I did tell him it was a
prank afterward and he was realcool about it and shouted out
job balloon show at the end.
And yeah, I don't know, I don'tknow, I can send it to you.
(44:26):
It's that one always stands outto me.
I always thought it was funnybut yeah, didn't really get a
lot, it wasn't popular.
The big guy, right, the big guy, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
I saw that it was.
Yeah, that was definitely funnyman.
So, josh, what would you saybesides comedy?
What's something people wouldnever guess that you're actually
really good at?
Speaker 2 (44:49):
Well, I did karate as
a kid.
Me and my dad did it together.
We almost got to our blackbelts.
Stopped when I was 12 because Igot busy with the pie company
and man, I just it was under myskin the whole time Like I want
to do this again.
I want to go back and get thatblack belt.
I want to achieve that, youknow.
(45:09):
And so during COVID so 2020, Iended up going back to my old
school and just worked my assoff for a few years, amazingly,
doing it as a kid.
That stuff sticks in yourmuscle memory, you know.
So it came back so quick,learning all the forms, the
(45:30):
katas and stuff, and within afew years, I ended up.
So I got my belt back,eventually tested for the next
one my red stripe and tested formy black belt.
And it was, you know, justbeing hyper-focused Like my now
wife.
My girlfriend at the tested formy black belt and it was, you
know, just being hyper-focusedLike my now wife.
My girlfriend at the time movedto Milwaukee and I was like six
months away from testing andI'm like I stayed back in
(45:50):
Michigan, stayed with my parentsand just, you know, worked my
ass off, pushed myself and uhgot my black belt and yeah, I
think people probably wouldn'texpect that no, yeah, that's
badass, man thanks, thanks, youknow same kind
of principles that we're sayingabout pushing yourself and like
(46:13):
not being afraid to bevulnerable, exposing yourself,
you know.
Perseverance, um, yeah, youknow, definitely that was all
you know.
Karate taught me a lot of that,I think.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
That's really cool,
man.
I would have never guessed thatyou're a black belt in karate.
Yeah yeah, so let that be awarning to anyone out there that
tries to smash your phone.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, true, Unless
they know jujitsu, because I
don't know that might trump mykarate.
But I'm trying to get intojujitsu now, though that's my
next.
Speaker 1 (46:41):
I've been training
for over a decade now.
I'm a brown belt yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:46):
Oh hell yeah, bro,
that's so dope.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Yeah, it's.
It's funny because when I wasyounger I didn't care for the
promotions.
I didn't, I didn't like seek itout.
I almost didn't want it.
I almost didn't want promotionsbecause I felt like there was
more pressure when you, when youwent to the next level.
And I used to walk into a lotof gyms because I traveled a lot
and then also I moved a lot.
(47:09):
So walking into a new gym canbe very unnerving because first
thing they see is that belt andthey're thinking, oh, this guy's
purple belt, let's see whathe's made of, Right.
And so you've got everyone inthere just dive bombing you and
I didn't like that.
Um, but I've been very blessedover the years to have really
good training partners, reallygood gyms that have just pushed
(47:31):
me to get promoted.
A lot of my friends now havebeen black belts for a while.
So I'm I'm just a brown belt,but no, that's a big achievement
.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
It takes a lot longer
to get a black belt jujitsu
than karate.
No, that's a big achievement.
Speaker 1 (47:42):
It takes a lot longer
to get into black belt jujitsu
than karate.
Hopefully, in a couple of yearsI can do it.
I've trained a lot of differentgyms too, so being consistent,
staying at the same gym underthe same, you know it all
matters.
So no man, I love martial arts.
I think it's a great outlet.
It teaches you a lot of thingswith discipline and following
through and achievement.
(48:03):
So, with that being said, likeover the horizon man.
So what's next for the job?
Speaker 2 (48:08):
balloon show job
balloon show podcast.
Did the first shot, the firstepisode of it, a couple of weeks
ago.
I'm thinking about shooting thenext one today.
That's, I'd love to do it.
It's it's not as interactive asthe streaming, but I think I
would really love it.
Like you said, everybody'spodcasting but, you know, bring
my own little unique brand ofhumor to it.
(48:29):
And, yeah, essentially it'sjust like treating it like
hanging out with me.
You know, watch some YouTubevideos, do some reacting and
just get silly and let that, letthat side of myself out.
So that's, that's a big one I'mtrying to go for well, just
like icp, they had uh their own.
Speaker 1 (48:50):
Um what record label
juggalos or what right right.
What was their, what was theircommunity?
Juggalos yeah juggalos right,they had their own army of
juggalos.
Speaker 2 (49:00):
I mean, you could
have your own army of jabaloons
well, somebody came up with theterm lunatic, so it takes yeah,
yeah, so that's jabaloonatics itsounds cocky to have your own
name, but I do think it's funnyto you know that's very icp-ish
right right yeah, true, your um,your content often turns uh,
(49:25):
every day, just average livingwalking to and from into
laughter.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
So can you share a
moment in your life when you had
to adapt and overcome?
Perhaps that was when a videoflopped or life somehow threw
you a curveball or you had topivot creatively.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Right man Stick into
creative stuff mostly, whatever
sticks out in your mind.
You know, I had some real mentalhealth challenges, especially
like 10 years ago, living inDetroit, bought a cheap house
when the housing market was low,living reclusively, not working
(50:05):
, smoking pot all day, and thatwas a real challenge.
It was eventually kind ofreally hitting my low point,
going through a breakup aroundthat time and I was like dude, I
don't know.
I think when you're desperate,you know, forces you to take
action, you know, and I'm likedude, I'm getting into therapy,
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I'm going to see if I need somemeds and then just really
working on myself, and then it'sbeen a slow work.
But again, same thing happenedonce I got my current
relationship with my now wifewas like I was still dealing
with a lot of that stuff, um,and it was just like no, I, I
gotta be better for her.
You know I, I can't put herthrough my issues and um, other
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than that, it was really justyou, on a lighter note, grinding
with the music just and gettingnowhere, no positive feedback,
you know just.
And I thought it was good.
You know, I still think it'sgood, like I wouldn't put it out
if I didn't think it was good.
At least by my taste, I like it.
Speaker 1 (51:10):
And that's an
incredible amount of
accountability that you have.
Thanks, thanks, man.
I mean, it really is.
I mean, a lot of times militaryveterans suffer from mental
health issues and a lot of timesI give the advice of telling
our veterans to meet people inthe middle, instead of always
thinking that it's thecivilian's job to come to your
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side of the pasture.
How about you meet them in themiddle somewhere?
How about you try to understandwhere they're coming from?
Yeah, and then maybe that'llhelp.
You know, take someaccountability yeah yeah, like
in yourself, I can't expectanyone to understand what it's
like that, what I've beenthrough, right, but I can try to
understand what they might knowor might not know.
Yeah, and I think that helpsbring the like like your, your
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mental, your mental status alittle bit more of an
understanding perspective.
Sure, so you talking about thatand taking the accountability
is huge man, and maybe karateplayed a role in that.
You know and and growing up youknow, and your parents raising
you the way they raised you andeverything.
Maybe that that was superhelpful.
Speaker 2 (52:13):
Yeah, thank you,
thanks so much.
I um, yeah, I, I do think, andwhen I did get back into karate
it was a that was a huge help onthe mental health too.
You know, was such a go there.
You're forced to be so present,kind of you know what I mean,
especially if you're sparring orsomething you're so in the
moment you're not, you know,you're not in your head, so it
was go get out of my head andthe discipline, the respect,
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everything that you know.
Big shout out to Patty Troy andAndy Troy, who now passed my
master's and, you know,professor of jujitsu there.
They also did jujitsu.
Speaker 1 (52:49):
Yeah, man, I mean,
it's tiring out that body, man,
I know anytime I've gone througha hard part of my life I've
leaned on brazilian jiu-jitsuand I've been so grateful
because even when I was at thelowest points of my life, I had
an opportunity where I workedwith a uh, former marine, uh,
cardo urso.
He just threw me the keys tothe gym and said, hey, anytime
(53:11):
you can go to the gym and justwork yourself out and he goes.
I know you're going throughsome stuff, that's awesome five
days a week.
Man, I was in there nice, my assoff, because I know man when
you come to those forks in theroad and you have choices go to
the bar, drink or right do, orgo to the gym.
I mean, you try to be I'vealways tried to be self-aware.
(53:32):
Yeah, push, push myself in amore positive direction, you
know so it's.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
It can be the harder
choice to make, but it's usually
has the better payoff oh, inthe long run.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
No doubt, man right,
you know you you've made a lot
of really self-aware,accountable decisions for your
families.
What do they think about allthis?
What do they think about yourinternet comedy career?
Are they supportive, confusedor constantly bracing to end up
in one of your videos?
Speaker 2 (53:58):
my wife is so
supportive, she's such an angel.
She lets me do this stuff whereI'm like I'm not bringing in
much money.
You know I'm doing this likemostly full-time, part-time,
remotely working for my parents,but um, you know, and she works
her ass off at her job andshe's just like, lets me pursue
my dream.
It's great At the same time.
(54:18):
Yeah, she can hardly watch thevideos.
She just is.
It just cringes her out.
You know, it's just too.
She, she hates that awkwardvibe and the potential of
confrontation and, uh, sooccasionally I make her watch
one that you know I want her tosee.
But yeah, she's on that side ofit.
She, she can't really get intoit, but she's so supportive,
(54:39):
yeah, I'm grateful.
Speaker 1 (54:42):
I just love how
spontaneous it is, man, I love
it, it's just I love it.
I'm just thinking, god, I wouldget caught up in some shit like
that.
We're like somebody's justasking me, I'm, my mind is here,
and then someone's asking me tolike sponsor their show and
I'll just do it, and then nextthing you know like saying some
(55:03):
off ball weird stuff, man.
So, and I I know that that canattract some critics.
Like comedy, content creationcan attract critics.
How do you handle the negativecomments or people who, just,
who, just don't get it?
Speaker 2 (55:10):
I'm so thankful that
there's barely been any and I'm
sure if my stuff keeps growingthey'll come in more.
There has not been that much.
I mean a couple of people whenI did the police one and I said,
you know, for record, I dosupport the police, and a couple
of people took issue with that.
You know, and you know I dealtwith it.
(55:33):
Criticism is hard for me,though I do think you know the
couple of negative ones thathave come in.
I'm like you know what you haveto choose right now.
Well, it's small, don't focuson that.
There's so much good coming in.
Don't focus on that.
One little negative thing Gotto let it roll off your
shoulders.
So, like I'm trying to put thatinto practice right from the
(55:54):
get, I'm trying to put that intopractice right from the get.
Speaker 1 (55:56):
You know what, man?
I honestly think you're notgetting a lot of negative
comments because you have somelevel of respect.
I mean, early on it sounds likeyou ran into some issues.
But the fact that you'retelling people that it's a prank
, you're not shoving somebody'sproperty off into the other side
of the grocery store, you'renot squaring up on people, right
(56:17):
?
I mean, that's man.
We've had so many badpranksters over the years that
have just gotten in huge.
I mean vitality just gotarrested in the philippines and
he's he's looking at 24 years inprison.
Really, I actually don't knowhim.
So vitality was one of theearly, uh, youtube pranksters
okay and uh, he kept pushing thecontent, pushing the content.
(56:39):
We started doing the contentoverseas and when you're in
another country, they don't,they don't play those games,
like they don't.
Like they will arrest you forthings that, like you would not
get arrested for here in theunited states.
And uh, he, yeah, he's uhcurrently waiting trial in the
philippines right now.
Wow, um.
So I mean, yeah, you, you gotto be careful, man, and there's
(56:59):
been, you know, for a while.
The whole prank show thing kindof went away and it's kind of
coming back again.
So I mean, like I said, man,yours caught my eye, cracks me
up every time.
And if you could collaboratewith any other creator,
celebrity or fictional character, who would it be besides me and
(57:20):
what kind of chaos would youunleash together?
Speaker 2 (57:24):
man, once I get that
sponsorship, we'll be do.
Jabaloon learns jujitsu fromwait kp.
Speaker 1 (57:30):
I was gonna say kt.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
I was gonna say kc,
but I uh, what were you gonna
say?
Speaker 1 (57:36):
so what, uh, if you
could collaborate with the other
creators, celebrity orfictional character out there,
who would it be?
Speaker 2 (57:41):
I, I'm a huge tim
heidecker fan.
I just think what he's hisbrand of comedy so funny.
He's like top tier level to mefrom tim and eric.
Um, I love tim heidecker, hisant.
You know it would be a dream tohave him like, hey, let's
produce this show in our studio.
(58:02):
You know we'll funnel somemoney into it, give me some
expenses to travel and to, youknow, broaden and hire some
people to help edit.
You know I'm like doing all theediting, subtitling the
captions manually.
I'm like doing all the editing,subtitling the captions by by
manually.
And um other than that,obviously, like, sasha Baron
Cohen is the goat you know ofthis kind of stuff, love all his
(58:24):
stuff.
You know I got my couple ofmusical heroes Maynard Eminem,
trent Reznor.
Um, on that front of things,All the guys are Midwest guys.
Speaker 1 (58:34):
Maynard resner, who
else did you say m&m?
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (58:36):
yeah, they're all
midwest ohio and michigan.
Yeah, that's true funny.
But yeah, tim heidecker, I'msure he's watching right now.
Tim, please, we need thatsponsorship, tim heidecker,
let's manifest it bro.
Speaker 1 (58:55):
Do it, man.
I'm in your corner, man.
I'm a big fan of yours.
This has been an absolute honor.
Before we wrap things up, man,was there anything that I didn't
mention that you'd like tomention before we finish off the
show?
Speaker 2 (59:08):
Man?
I don't think so.
Man, you're watching theJabaloon Show and I'm replaced
with the freaking best podcasterinterviewer out there.
Dude, I love this, this wassuch a blast.
And uh, man, you're killing it,bro, and you're you're like a
gentle giant because you're sosweet and kind, even though I'm
outside, you're intimidating me.
(59:30):
Well, look at those muscles andthose hawaiian.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
Dude, it's so funny I
hear that sometimes Like, oh,
you look very intimidating.
I'm like you know, this is thething too, I think when you do
things like jiu-jitsu or anytype of martial art, you're sort
of the last guy to want to getinto any kind of altercations.
You're like the guy trying tode-escalate, trying to get away
from it.
It's not something.
Speaker 2 (59:57):
Uh, there's no
machismo in that stuff.
If you're a true martial artist, absolutely that's the
principle.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, no doubt, man.
No, this has been an absolutehonor, man.
I I knew this was going to be agreat conversation because I
was looking forward to thisinterview and I love your
content.
Man, make sure, if you'relistening out there, to follow
the job balloon show.
You're on Tik TOK.
You're on Instagram.
What else are you on?
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yep, tik TOK.
Instagram.
Youtube, the Tik TOK andInstagram are job balloon.
Youtube is the job balloon show.
Unfortunately, the job balloonwas taken for some reason.
And then if people want to comehang on Twitch, we have our
it's a job balloon.
On Twitch, we have our little,uh, twitch community.
It's, we have a blast.
You know, that's where I reallyjust get to be myself and chill
out and it's uh, I don't know,we're always laughing, playing
(01:00:43):
music, being stupid, I don'tknow how to use Twitch.
Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
I need to understand
how it works.
I've got it downloaded, but Idon't understand how it works.
Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
I'm there too If you
want to join up our Discord
community.
That's also a little tight-knit, that's more.
It's not even people just kindof chat and vent their problems.
It's a cool little community.
Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Yeah, it's awesome,
man, that you can bring folks
together and uh, hopefully, man,you can create the uh job
balloon lunatic army and uh,start, start that podcast, man,
and you know, get, get thingsgoing.
I, I really appreciate yougiving me your time today, josh,
um and um, I'm looking forwardto seeing your growth here in
the next, uh, next few years.
Man, I want to see, I want tosee where you take this thing
(01:01:33):
thank you, brother.
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
That means so much.
I appreciate you, dude, you'rerocking this.
Honestly, this was such afreaking blast like this was
awesome, so I I'm like, I'melated, so um, and it was
awesome to connect on themartial arts stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Who would have
thought that would be one of our
topics but uh well, I know thatyou have hidden superpowers, so
I'm glad to know that now.
I know that you have hiddensuperpowers, so I'm glad to know
that.
Now I know that you have thatblack belt in karate.
So if I'm ever around you, man,I got to watch out.
Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Dude, we got to hit
the mats together one day.
Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Yeah, it'd be badass
man, Definitely.
I wanted to ask you too beforeround off.
Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Do you have any plans
on going to any other cities?
I hope so.
I would just need funding, butI am going to be back in Detroit
, so I'm I'm trying to collabwith this crazy ass prankster
out there, cause I'll be backhome, so I'm thinking of doing
their Chicago's only a couplehours away.
Speaker 1 (01:02:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
I'm going to be in
New York in May.
I'm thinking, if I get a littletime, maybe pursue it in New
York or get some interestingfootage.
Other than that, once I get a,if I get a sponsor, you know,
hopefully they could fund someof the travel expenses.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Yeah, man.
Well, hey, man, it's been apleasure and an honor to be part
of your journey.
I hope that I can help yourgrowth as well.
For folks out there, make sureyou follow the job balloon show
man and like his stuff.
It's freaking hilarious, it'srespectable at the same time,
but it's funny.
You'll love it, trust me Allright, thank you, no, man.
All my it's all my pleasure,all my honor and for everyone
(01:03:01):
else out there, as always, Iwant you to stay tuned, stay
focused and stay motivated.
Warriors fall out.