July 10, 2025 • 18 mins
Hey friends, in this week’s episode of The Music of Life, I’m diving deep into something that’s been swirling in my heart lately—love after divorce. This journey isn't easy, and I know so many of you are out there trying to make sense of how to trust again, how to love again, and more importantly, how to not lose yourself in the process. I’ve been reflecting on my own story, the healing that’s happened, and how I’ve grown into someone who now values emotional depth, high vibrations, and divine timing over anything casual or surface-level.
I open up about how our childhood wounds, relationship role models (or lack thereof), and inner work all play a part in how we show up for love. I share insights from a powerful long-distance connection that came at the most unexpected time in my life and what it taught me about God’s timing, real love, and emotional safety. If you’re navigating your own healing post-divorce or wondering what a healthy love can even look like, this episode is for you.
Episode Highlights:
[0:21] - Talking about love and dating post-divorce—and how so many of us carry unhealed baggage.
[3:50] - That unexpected long-distance relationship and the magic of divine timing.
[6:45] - Feeling emotionally seen and supported, even without meeting in person.
[8:36] - Why I don’t fear being alone and how that shifted everything for me.
[10:15] - The importance of not losing ourselves in relationships again.
[12:37] - Raising our vibration to attract love that matches our healing.
[14:48] - Breaking free from toxic relationship patterns and rewriting the story.
[17:25] - Redefining modern masculine and feminine roles in love.
[19:50] - Emotional value women bring and why both partners need to do the inner work.
[21:50] - A glimpse into what I’ll cover in future episodes on love and dating post-divorce.
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Caryn Portnoy (00:02):
Karen, hi everyone, and welcome to the
music of Life. I'm your host.
Karen Portnoy, before I get intothis episode, please comment,
ask questions, share some ofyour experiences, and don't
forget to subscribe.
I wanted to talk this week aboutlove and dating post divorce,
(00:26):
and I'm not going to get toomuch into my own situation at
the moment, but I did want totalk about this because I I've
been reading some comments insome of the divorce groups I'm
in on social media, and justsome thoughts that I've seen and
heard and thought about myself,and just wanted to talk about it
a bit. So there are a lot ofunhealed people out in the
(00:50):
world, and I'm noticing morepeople doing their inner work,
either during their divorce orafter their divorce, to heal
themselves and to be able toseek love and seek relationship
post divorce for myself, I willsay my history in relationships
(01:12):
leading up to my ex husband andeven the beginning of my
relationship with him when westarted dating. And I think it's
true for a lot of people too, wetend to lose ourselves in
relationships, and a lot of thatstems from being unhealed, that
we have childhood wounds, wehave traumas from our past. We
(01:32):
have unhealthy views andperceptions about relationships
and love. And you know, who dowe look to for that kind of
guidance. I mean, it starts withour parents, and we look to our
parents and and theirrelationship with each other
first and foremost, becausethey're the most important
relationship we know as a, youknow, as a young child growing
(01:53):
up. So if their relationshipwasn't so healthy, I mean, what
kind of start do we have, andwhat kind of odds can we look
forward to? And then, you know,we start to see other
relationships outside of ourparents. And I think as children
growing up, we take certainthings in, and we kind of make
up our minds about howrelationships should be. For me,
(02:17):
I don't remember having any goodrole models until much, much
later in my life. So I hadtwisted perceptions about what
love was, what it meant, whatthe responsibility was of a
partner, what my responsibilitywas, you know, and then factor
in hopes, dreams, desires, allof that, and it kind of gets
(02:39):
muddled. So we spend our liveskind of practicing what we think
a relationship should look like,and just when we think we have
it down pat, somebody breaks ourheart or breaks up with us
suddenly, or anything like that.
So it's kind of hard toformulate what we think love
looks like and what we think arelationship should be. I will
(03:01):
say that as I healed during mydivorce and as I continued on my
healing journey, you know, withGod, what I found was that the
more that I surrendered to Godand I let him steer my ship, the
less I had to figure it outmyself. And so God was able to
(03:23):
show me and present to mesomething that I've never
experienced before, which wastrue, genuine love for someone
else youI know I spoke about somebody
(03:50):
that I was involved with duringmy divorce, long distance from
Colorado, And it was a very eyeopening and refreshing
experience for me, because I hadno expectations. It came out of
nowhere. I was not expecting it.
I was not looking for it, but Iwas in a state of despair at
(04:14):
that point where I was losinghope. He was looking to stop
dating altogether on his end.
And I think that, you know, forboth of our sakes, I think God
sought it best, or thought itbest to put us together. And
what developed was something sobeautiful that I have never
experienced before. And it'sfunny, because I don't think
(04:37):
that either of us would havesought each other out in our own
lives, on our own, but the waythat God brought us together was
just it was a very magicalunfolding of two souls that came
together and recognized eachother immediately. And what
(04:58):
unfolded was just magic, and thefact that it happened during my
divorce, instead of after mydivorce, I think was so
important because, you know,talk about divine timing, and I
would not have planned for sucha relationship at that time
during my divorce, when thingswere so chaotic and hectic and
(05:22):
and just so horrific. It's theonly word I could come up with
right now. But you know, hebecame my person. He was the
person that I turned to when Ineeded support and I needed to
express how I was feeling and onany given moment. And because we
had such similar parentingstyles, it was, it was easy for
(05:44):
him to understand where I wascoming from, plus the fact that
I seriously felt that hegenuinely had my back and I had
his too. We only wanted the bestfor each other and and it was,
it felt like what a relationshipshould be. The fact that we
never met in person is like,secondary, you know, it's, it's
(06:06):
just kind of weird to say tosomebody that I had such love
for another human being when wenever met, and vice versa. But,
you know, God works inmysterious ways, and our souls
knew each other very well, verydeeply, very profoundly. And I
doubt I will ever meet anotherhuman being the way that I
(06:31):
connected with this person, andI'm forever grateful for it,
because I needed that as I movedforward, as I healed, as I
learned more about myself andwent inward and connected more
with God and all of that. So youknow, where I am now on my
healing journey is just I feellike I am, you know, right where
(06:55):
I need to be to have the love ofmy life, and because my
standards are so much highernow, and because my self love
and self worth and self respectand all those things, self care,
all of those, you know, theythey're at such high levels now
that I don't want to waste mytime with people who aren't
(07:18):
worthy. So I would prefer to besingle and keep doing my thing
and focus on my business andfocus on where I'm going in my
career and all that I'm tryingto build. And when the right
person is ready and divinetiming is at play, I know and I
(07:38):
feel 1,000% that God will uniteus. So I'm not interested in
casual relationships, I'm notinterested in casual sex. I'm
not interested in friends withbenefits. I'm not interested in
anything that's low vibrational.
I'm at a high vibrational pointin my life, and that's what I
(07:59):
want in a partner, and I'm notchasing anybody. I am attracting
whoever needs to be in my life.
And I trust that God will bringpeople in that will add to my
life and bring value and all ofthat to me, and conversely, will
remove anybody that doesn'tbelong in my life anymore, and
I'm good with either.
(08:36):
But getting back to the idea oflosing yourself in a
relationship, I mean, I neverfelt like I was losing myself in
that relationship. I felt that,you know, we added to each
other's lives tremendously. Wegave each other great advice,
great support, great friendship.
It was, it was fantastic, andthe fact that it ended made me
very sad, but I was very clearafter the pain went away, that,
(09:01):
you know, he wasn't meant to bein my life longer than he was.
And you know, clearly there wasa purpose to it, and I'm so
grateful for it, but I can seehow now I can see how it was a
stepping stone to where I'mmeant to be next. But getting
back to the idea of losingourselves in relationships, I
(09:23):
think that, you know, havingdone all this healing work on
myself and focusing solely onmyself for so long that you
know, I'm ready to give my heartto somebody and not so much like
give it away. That's not reallywhat I mean. It's kind of like
my heart is open, I'm ripe, I'mready. You know, it will take a
(09:46):
very special, genuine, authenticperson to make me pay attention
to them, to make me open myheart for them. Right? But I
feel that, you know, I've doneso much work on myself that I
feel, I feel like I'm not atrisk of losing myself because
(10:08):
I've spent so much time aloneafter, during and after my
divorce, that I'm not afraid tobe alone. And I keep hearing
that, you know, strong,independent women who are not
afraid to be alone are verydangerous people, because we're
not afraid to walk away fromsomething or someone that
(10:32):
doesn't serve us, meaningserving our highest good, not
like serving us. So I you know,my cutoff game has gotten
extremely strong, and if I'mtalking to somebody or
connecting with somebody, andit's no longer working for me,
or I feel like it's it's toomuch, or it's too intrusive, or
(10:52):
anything like that. I mean,that's it. I stopped talking to
them. I don't need to give anexplanation. I don't have to
give a reason. I just stoptalking and keep it moving.
That's it. So if somebody isworthy of my time and my energy
and my my effort and all ofthat, then I will entertain
(11:13):
that. But I've got enough goingon in my own life now, and
enough, not just my business andbuilding my career and all of
that, but, you know, my interestand activities and hobbies and
all of that. I mean, I haveenough to fill up my day. I have
(11:33):
enough to fill up my life, andI'm not looking for somebody to
complete me. So, you know,again, it's just who is going to
compliment me, not complete me.
And so I think that the peoplewho are working on themselves,
or people who are just startingto work on themselves, or any
point in the process, I thinkthat this is another reason why
(11:58):
it's so crucial to be doing thiskind of healing work, because we
want to have successfulrelationships. And how do you do
that? But, you know, work onyourself first, because the more
that you love yourself and carefor yourself and have a higher
standard for yourself, the moreyou'll you'll attract that. You
(12:19):
know, the law of attractionstates that we attract what we
are.
So if we're unhealed, we'regoing to attract somebody who's
(12:40):
unhealed, and if we're healed,we're going to attract somebody
who's healed. So it's a questionof, you know, betting on
yourself and what will come fromthat is so much better than what
we've had or what we've gotten.
I'm done with toxicrelationships. I'm done with
mediocre I'm done with, youknow, anything that's not going
(13:01):
to elevate me. We all wantpartners who are going to
support us and, and, you know,be on our team and and want the
best for us, and want us to behappy and support our dreams and
all of that. We all want that,men and women both. But you
can't get that clarity, and youcan't get that depth of
understanding unless youactually do the work on yourself
(13:24):
and raise your own bar. It'skind of hard to not be healed,
and then to expect that somebodyelse is going to be on a higher
level. And then add to it, youknow, the the change in dynamic
in recent years about masculineversus feminine. So it used to
(13:46):
be that the guy was like theleader, the the masculine, the
one who makes decisions, the onewho negotiates, who's physically
strong and and they take thelead, and they plan the dates
and vacations and all of thosethings. And the feminine was
kind of like a little, you know,like more supportive role, more
(14:07):
nurturing, caring, loving,affectionate things like that.
And, you know, I used to beterrified of becoming a 1950s
housewife, because back in thosedays, you know, the guy was very
controlling and and he, youknow, it was supposed to mean
that they cared, but it waslike, you know, being
(14:29):
controlling and being possessivedoesn't mean caring. And then
the women had to kind of shrinkthemselves to be in that kind of
marriage. And, yuck. Who wantedthat? So I don't know. I just
think that, you know, the themore elevated we become, the
more work we do, the morehealing we do, I don't know. I
(14:51):
think it's a much better powerdynamic, and it's more equal,
but both roles take on de.
Different traits. So the man canbe super successful in his
career and have all these goalsand hopes and dreams in his
career and success and financialabundance and things like that.
(15:13):
And, you know, be a boss orindependent and strong within
himself and his own life, andhave his own activities. And
what I've come to understand is,you know, guys aren't interested
in taking care of a woman intheir own life. They don't want
needy, clingy women who justwant them to love them and take
(15:36):
care of them and do things forthem and like, what does the
woman bring to the table in thatregard. And I I've seen this and
heard this and and I agree withit. I think that a woman should
have her own life, have her owninterests, activities, hobbies,
whatever, do something for herown money. And then, I mean,
(15:57):
look if, if a woman isfinancially independent, and a
guy wants to still pay for herand buy things for her and take
care of her hair and her nailsand paying for all those things
and shopping power to them. But,you know, I keep saying that
even if a woman isn'tfinancially independent, she
(16:17):
still brings a lot to the table,you know, listening and being
emotionally available to herpartner and supporting him in
his dreams, and and beingnurturing and affectionate and
caring and loving and all ofthose things, and emotionally
stable and secure in herself,these are valuable traits that a
(16:39):
woman brings to a man. And ifhe's strong and independent and
secure with himself, he's goingto value what she brings to his
life. You know, he's out therelike killing himself, trying to
work and be financially stableand all of that, and to come
home and and fall into the armsof his woman and for her open
(17:01):
heart to be a safe space forhim. I mean, there's a lot of
value in that too. So both sidesget something out of a
relationship like that. But Idon't know. I think that, you
know, a woman needs to do thework on herself. Men need to do
work on themselves. You know,the more that each can heal, the
(17:21):
more they bring to a moresuccessful, stable relationship
and partnership, and there's amuch better chance for success.
You know, in the long run, I'mgoing to talk about different
elements of dating and love andrelationships after divorce in
future episodes. But this wasjust something I was kind of
(17:42):
thinking about and mullingaround. But I'll get into
different aspects of this in infuture episodes as well. Anyway,
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(18:27):
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Next Episode. You
Karen, hi everyone, and welcome to the
music of Life. I'm your host.
Karen Portnoy, before I get intothis episode, please comment,
ask questions, share some ofyour experiences, and don't
forget to subscribe.
I wanted to talk this week aboutlove and dating post divorce,
(00:26):
and I'm not going to get toomuch into my own situation at
the moment, but I did want totalk about this because I I've
been reading some comments insome of the divorce groups I'm
in on social media, and justsome thoughts that I've seen and
heard and thought about myself,and just wanted to talk about it
a bit. So there are a lot ofunhealed people out in the
(00:50):
world, and I'm noticing morepeople doing their inner work,
either during their divorce orafter their divorce, to heal
themselves and to be able toseek love and seek relationship
post divorce for myself, I willsay my history in relationships
(01:12):
leading up to my ex husband andeven the beginning of my
relationship with him when westarted dating. And I think it's
true for a lot of people too, wetend to lose ourselves in
relationships, and a lot of thatstems from being unhealed, that
we have childhood wounds, wehave traumas from our past. We
(01:32):
have unhealthy views andperceptions about relationships
and love. And you know, who dowe look to for that kind of
guidance. I mean, it starts withour parents, and we look to our
parents and and theirrelationship with each other
first and foremost, becausethey're the most important
relationship we know as a, youknow, as a young child growing
(01:53):
up. So if their relationshipwasn't so healthy, I mean, what
kind of start do we have, andwhat kind of odds can we look
forward to? And then, you know,we start to see other
relationships outside of ourparents. And I think as children
growing up, we take certainthings in, and we kind of make
up our minds about howrelationships should be. For me,
(02:17):
I don't remember having any goodrole models until much, much
later in my life. So I hadtwisted perceptions about what
love was, what it meant, whatthe responsibility was of a
partner, what my responsibilitywas, you know, and then factor
in hopes, dreams, desires, allof that, and it kind of gets
(02:39):
muddled. So we spend our liveskind of practicing what we think
a relationship should look like,and just when we think we have
it down pat, somebody breaks ourheart or breaks up with us
suddenly, or anything like that.
So it's kind of hard toformulate what we think love
looks like and what we think arelationship should be. I will
(03:01):
say that as I healed during mydivorce and as I continued on my
healing journey, you know, withGod, what I found was that the
more that I surrendered to Godand I let him steer my ship, the
less I had to figure it outmyself. And so God was able to
(03:23):
show me and present to mesomething that I've never
experienced before, which wastrue, genuine love for someone
else youI know I spoke about somebody
(03:50):
that I was involved with duringmy divorce, long distance from
Colorado, And it was a very eyeopening and refreshing
experience for me, because I hadno expectations. It came out of
nowhere. I was not expecting it.
I was not looking for it, but Iwas in a state of despair at
(04:14):
that point where I was losinghope. He was looking to stop
dating altogether on his end.
And I think that, you know, forboth of our sakes, I think God
sought it best, or thought itbest to put us together. And
what developed was something sobeautiful that I have never
experienced before. And it'sfunny, because I don't think
(04:37):
that either of us would havesought each other out in our own
lives, on our own, but the waythat God brought us together was
just it was a very magicalunfolding of two souls that came
together and recognized eachother immediately. And what
(04:58):
unfolded was just magic, and thefact that it happened during my
divorce, instead of after mydivorce, I think was so
important because, you know,talk about divine timing, and I
would not have planned for sucha relationship at that time
during my divorce, when thingswere so chaotic and hectic and
(05:22):
and just so horrific. It's theonly word I could come up with
right now. But you know, hebecame my person. He was the
person that I turned to when Ineeded support and I needed to
express how I was feeling and onany given moment. And because we
had such similar parentingstyles, it was, it was easy for
(05:44):
him to understand where I wascoming from, plus the fact that
I seriously felt that hegenuinely had my back and I had
his too. We only wanted the bestfor each other and and it was,
it felt like what a relationshipshould be. The fact that we
never met in person is like,secondary, you know, it's, it's
(06:06):
just kind of weird to say tosomebody that I had such love
for another human being when wenever met, and vice versa. But,
you know, God works inmysterious ways, and our souls
knew each other very well, verydeeply, very profoundly. And I
doubt I will ever meet anotherhuman being the way that I
(06:31):
connected with this person, andI'm forever grateful for it,
because I needed that as I movedforward, as I healed, as I
learned more about myself andwent inward and connected more
with God and all of that. So youknow, where I am now on my
healing journey is just I feellike I am, you know, right where
(06:55):
I need to be to have the love ofmy life, and because my
standards are so much highernow, and because my self love
and self worth and self respectand all those things, self care,
all of those, you know, theythey're at such high levels now
that I don't want to waste mytime with people who aren't
(07:18):
worthy. So I would prefer to besingle and keep doing my thing
and focus on my business andfocus on where I'm going in my
career and all that I'm tryingto build. And when the right
person is ready and divinetiming is at play, I know and I
(07:38):
feel 1,000% that God will uniteus. So I'm not interested in
casual relationships, I'm notinterested in casual sex. I'm
not interested in friends withbenefits. I'm not interested in
anything that's low vibrational.
I'm at a high vibrational pointin my life, and that's what I
(07:59):
want in a partner, and I'm notchasing anybody. I am attracting
whoever needs to be in my life.
And I trust that God will bringpeople in that will add to my
life and bring value and all ofthat to me, and conversely, will
remove anybody that doesn'tbelong in my life anymore, and
I'm good with either.
(08:36):
But getting back to the idea oflosing yourself in a
relationship, I mean, I neverfelt like I was losing myself in
that relationship. I felt that,you know, we added to each
other's lives tremendously. Wegave each other great advice,
great support, great friendship.
It was, it was fantastic, andthe fact that it ended made me
very sad, but I was very clearafter the pain went away, that,
(09:01):
you know, he wasn't meant to bein my life longer than he was.
And you know, clearly there wasa purpose to it, and I'm so
grateful for it, but I can seehow now I can see how it was a
stepping stone to where I'mmeant to be next. But getting
back to the idea of losingourselves in relationships, I
(09:23):
think that, you know, havingdone all this healing work on
myself and focusing solely onmyself for so long that you
know, I'm ready to give my heartto somebody and not so much like
give it away. That's not reallywhat I mean. It's kind of like
my heart is open, I'm ripe, I'mready. You know, it will take a
(09:46):
very special, genuine, authenticperson to make me pay attention
to them, to make me open myheart for them. Right? But I
feel that, you know, I've doneso much work on myself that I
feel, I feel like I'm not atrisk of losing myself because
(10:08):
I've spent so much time aloneafter, during and after my
divorce, that I'm not afraid tobe alone. And I keep hearing
that, you know, strong,independent women who are not
afraid to be alone are verydangerous people, because we're
not afraid to walk away fromsomething or someone that
(10:32):
doesn't serve us, meaningserving our highest good, not
like serving us. So I you know,my cutoff game has gotten
extremely strong, and if I'mtalking to somebody or
connecting with somebody, andit's no longer working for me,
or I feel like it's it's toomuch, or it's too intrusive, or
(10:52):
anything like that. I mean,that's it. I stopped talking to
them. I don't need to give anexplanation. I don't have to
give a reason. I just stoptalking and keep it moving.
That's it. So if somebody isworthy of my time and my energy
and my my effort and all ofthat, then I will entertain
(11:13):
that. But I've got enough goingon in my own life now, and
enough, not just my business andbuilding my career and all of
that, but, you know, my interestand activities and hobbies and
all of that. I mean, I haveenough to fill up my day. I have
(11:33):
enough to fill up my life, andI'm not looking for somebody to
complete me. So, you know,again, it's just who is going to
compliment me, not complete me.
And so I think that the peoplewho are working on themselves,
or people who are just startingto work on themselves, or any
point in the process, I thinkthat this is another reason why
(11:58):
it's so crucial to be doing thiskind of healing work, because we
want to have successfulrelationships. And how do you do
that? But, you know, work onyourself first, because the more
that you love yourself and carefor yourself and have a higher
standard for yourself, the moreyou'll you'll attract that. You
(12:19):
know, the law of attractionstates that we attract what we
are.
So if we're unhealed, we'regoing to attract somebody who's
(12:40):
unhealed, and if we're healed,we're going to attract somebody
who's healed. So it's a questionof, you know, betting on
yourself and what will come fromthat is so much better than what
we've had or what we've gotten.
I'm done with toxicrelationships. I'm done with
mediocre I'm done with, youknow, anything that's not going
(13:01):
to elevate me. We all wantpartners who are going to
support us and, and, you know,be on our team and and want the
best for us, and want us to behappy and support our dreams and
all of that. We all want that,men and women both. But you
can't get that clarity, and youcan't get that depth of
understanding unless youactually do the work on yourself
(13:24):
and raise your own bar. It'skind of hard to not be healed,
and then to expect that somebodyelse is going to be on a higher
level. And then add to it, youknow, the the change in dynamic
in recent years about masculineversus feminine. So it used to
(13:46):
be that the guy was like theleader, the the masculine, the
one who makes decisions, the onewho negotiates, who's physically
strong and and they take thelead, and they plan the dates
and vacations and all of thosethings. And the feminine was
kind of like a little, you know,like more supportive role, more
(14:07):
nurturing, caring, loving,affectionate things like that.
And, you know, I used to beterrified of becoming a 1950s
housewife, because back in thosedays, you know, the guy was very
controlling and and he, youknow, it was supposed to mean
that they cared, but it waslike, you know, being
(14:29):
controlling and being possessivedoesn't mean caring. And then
the women had to kind of shrinkthemselves to be in that kind of
marriage. And, yuck. Who wantedthat? So I don't know. I just
think that, you know, the themore elevated we become, the
more work we do, the morehealing we do, I don't know. I
(14:51):
think it's a much better powerdynamic, and it's more equal,
but both roles take on de.
Different traits. So the man canbe super successful in his
career and have all these goalsand hopes and dreams in his
career and success and financialabundance and things like that.
(15:13):
And, you know, be a boss orindependent and strong within
himself and his own life, andhave his own activities. And
what I've come to understand is,you know, guys aren't interested
in taking care of a woman intheir own life. They don't want
needy, clingy women who justwant them to love them and take
(15:36):
care of them and do things forthem and like, what does the
woman bring to the table in thatregard. And I I've seen this and
heard this and and I agree withit. I think that a woman should
have her own life, have her owninterests, activities, hobbies,
whatever, do something for herown money. And then, I mean,
(15:57):
look if, if a woman isfinancially independent, and a
guy wants to still pay for herand buy things for her and take
care of her hair and her nailsand paying for all those things
and shopping power to them. But,you know, I keep saying that
even if a woman isn'tfinancially independent, she
(16:17):
still brings a lot to the table,you know, listening and being
emotionally available to herpartner and supporting him in
his dreams, and and beingnurturing and affectionate and
caring and loving and all ofthose things, and emotionally
stable and secure in herself,these are valuable traits that a
(16:39):
woman brings to a man. And ifhe's strong and independent and
secure with himself, he's goingto value what she brings to his
life. You know, he's out therelike killing himself, trying to
work and be financially stableand all of that, and to come
home and and fall into the armsof his woman and for her open
(17:01):
heart to be a safe space forhim. I mean, there's a lot of
value in that too. So both sidesget something out of a
relationship like that. But Idon't know. I think that, you
know, a woman needs to do thework on herself. Men need to do
work on themselves. You know,the more that each can heal, the
(17:21):
more they bring to a moresuccessful, stable relationship
and partnership, and there's amuch better chance for success.
You know, in the long run, I'mgoing to talk about different
elements of dating and love andrelationships after divorce in
future episodes. But this wasjust something I was kind of
(17:42):
thinking about and mullingaround. But I'll get into
different aspects of this in infuture episodes as well. Anyway,
thank you for listening. Catchyou next week. Please join me
every Thursday for a newepisode. You can reach my
website@podpage.com slash slashthe music of life. Feel free to
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leave your email address. Youcan also leave a voicemail and
share any kinds of stories orexperiences or anything that
you'd like to talk about. Ipromise I will keep you
anonymous, but I assure you thatwhatever experiences or stories
you leave for me, you are notalone, and I would love to share
that with other people who arealso going through similar
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things. Thanks again forlistening. I'll see you in the
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