Movies We'd DELETE FOREVER | TNP EP. 135 - The Nerdiest Podcast

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All right, let me pull up the show notes so I know what we're
talking about today. Let's start by singing Symphony.
No, I just want to be part of your Symphony when you make
clothes and don't let go. I can still see the dolphins, so
it works out. It works.

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Hello and welcome to the nerdiest podcast, the show where
nerds talk about nerdy things. I'm your host with the most
who's always sleep deprived Nickwith no K.
And as always, I'm joined by my Co host, my ride or die, Mr.
Jackson Glass. And today we're going to be
following up on something we talked about the end of at the
end of last episode where we were coming up with like movies
we delete for tax purposes. So now we have a whole list and

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we're going to go through that. But we're going to do it draft
style. So you're definitely going to
want to stick around for that. But aside from that, we're also
going to be talking about Joker getting a or I'm sorry, Joker 2
getting a 35% on Rotten Tomatoesand not doing too hot.
James Cameron becoming an AI bro, the Fortnite X Crocs
collection and Minecraft live. So lots of fun things to talk

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about today and you're going to want to stick around for all of
that. But before we jump into that,
Jackson, how have you been? How's your week been?
Going wow, wow, can I just say host with the most that's always
sleep deprived is such a good like little tag for you because
it's so just accurate. And it's so funny because right

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before we were recording, he said.
You know, I think I just feel safe on the podcast because I'm
really sleepy. And I was.
Like, I'm like, dude, I don't know.
I could kind of go for like 30 minutes, let you talk, take a
nap, come back. So this is my safe space.
But yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing quite good.
I didn't have a super eventful week, so I don't really have
anything crazy to talk about. I'm getting ready to.

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This episode is prerecorded, so keep that in mind if you are
listening and you feel like thisis kind of old news.
This episode is prerecorded because I'm about to go out of
town and I'm so ready to go out of town and it's going to be so
fun. This morning I ran out of coffee
and since I'm about to go out oftown, I was like, I don't really

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want to spend 20 bucks on a bag of coffee to use for like 2 days
and then leave for like 8 days. But I'm also kind of like, what
am I going to do? So but I did find a Starbucks
gift card at work that I stole and so I had that.
And so I was working at Starbucks this morning and I was
working on a shot list because I'm shooting a music video this

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weekend, which I'm super excitedabout.
And fun fact, if you have the Starbucks app, you can do free
refills as long as you're in thestore.
So as if I. So I got like a tall blonde
roast and the blonde roast is myfavorite.
And I was like tall blonde roastand it was $3 and I used my gift

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card. And then I came back and I was
like, can I get a refill? And they were like, yeah.
And I scanned my little app thing and they were like, here
you go. So as long as you stay in the
store, you can get refills. So I had two blonde roasts and I
got a little distracted. I was building shot lists and it
took a little longer than I expected because I don't know
how to use Excel and I'm still learning.

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But I got distracted and had to run really quick and didn't eat
breakfast. And so I had two coffees, no
breakfast. And I was like, shoot, dude.
And I had to go speak at an event this this morning and I
went and I went to, I went to goon stage and was asked to pray

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in an event. And I went up there and I was so
sweaty and I was like, Oh my gosh, I think a combination of
nerves and no breakfast. I was like, I could feel my
heart rate and I was just like, Oh my gosh, I'm about to go on
stage just dripping. And so I mean like full, like

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new shirt needed level, like chest sweat.
So that was that was funny. That was kind of interesting.
We're playing a show tonight andplaying a playing an open mic to
play our song mandatory socialization.
If you don't, if you don't know,listen to Jackson Glass on
Spotify, which means I get to play the talk box live.

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And I'm very excited about that update to follow on that.
So other than that, this week I recorded a YouTube video that
isn't out yet. I'm going to get there,
hopefully get to release it before I leave for fall break.
No promises. But the main things I watched

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this week were I watched While You Were sleeping, which is one
of the most like iconic ROM comsof all time that I've never seen
and honestly quite good. I'm just constantly blown away
by ROM coms and their lack of morals.
Yes. And how it's essentially and

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it's just a convention of the genre, but it's kind of like,
yeah, you can pretend to be engaged to this man in a coma.
Why not? You know what's wrong with that?
And it's kind of like then the movie like bends over backwards
to justify it to like, so you don't feel like she's a bad
person. And so it's I thought that was
quite entertaining. And then I also went to the

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movie theater and saw the new DreamWorks movie The Wild Robot,
which I just recorded a YouTube video about.
Man, no spoilers here because all I'll say is I genuinely
think it might be the best movieof the year so far.
I cried so hard. Like halfway through the movie
started crying. Didn't stop until the credits

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were done. Like genuinely another
DreamWorks banger. I felt like it was like 2012
again. I was like, finally a good
animated movie in the theater. So wild Robot.
Please go see it. Let us know your thoughts.
Genuinely, genuinely the best movie I've seen in so long.
So anyway, that's pretty much what my week is about.

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Nothing too crazy. But Mr. Nick, tell me about your
week. What have you been up to?
Well, I accidentally muted the music I was listening to on
YouTube, which would explain whyI couldn't hear it.
So next, a little follow up fromlast week or last episode with

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the whole YouTube ad revenue thing.
Got it all sorted out. Channels monetize now,
memberships are turned on. All great, all fine and dandy,
we're good. So there's your conclusion, your
resolution to that. So everyone go watch Nick's
videos on loop and watch that check roll in.

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Yeah, baby, it's great because like all of that money is going
right back into the channel because I pay someone to edit my
videos now it doesn't have to come out of pocket.
So what I'm also trying to do isbuild up the members so I have a
more consistent revenue stream because I think I need because I
have a three, five and a $10 tier.

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Not to like self promo here, butif I can get, I think it's 85
dollar members or 10 or $410 members, I will essentially have
every month's budget covered because I put out about four to

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five videos a month. So anywhere between 40 and
$50.00 because I only paid my editor 10 bucks.
Like hey listen, that's what he wanted.
And I was like, OK, cool, we're both trying to learn here, so.
And I told him I would pay him more in the future as the videos
got more intense and complicated.
And, you know, it's kind of a scaling increase.

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But yeah, so I'm trying to figure all that out.
I've never done memberships actively before.
The closest thing I've done is like the podcast with Patreon
and our Spotify members. But even then, like we only have
one tier to manage and we're barely managing that right.
Well, we'll come back to you after show members.

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I promise. We're going to work on some.
We're very cool for you because you had to wait so long.
We're coming back, don't you worry.
But essentially outside of that,it's been a very long week.
I'm very tired. But I also there's theodic
again. Anyway, I bought the Regal

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Unlimited this week. I got three months so I can do
October, November, December. I went and saw all of the movies
I've seen this week were not included in the Regal Unlimited,
so it was kind of handless. I went and saw the first Gundam
movie with my friend Colin, and then last night I went and saw

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Howl's Moving Castle, which I'm going to do a video on that
because it's a Studio Ghibli movie I actually liked.
So, but that's all I'll say about that because that video is
coming soon. And then Sunday I'm going to see
another anime movie with Colin. And then next week I'm going to

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see the My Hero Academia movie Thursday night at 9:00 PM.
I'm going 9:00 PM bro is not going to beat the sleepy
allegations. No, I'm just going to try to
sleepy, go to bed earlier on Wednesday.
He's going to be account for that sleep.

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So there's that. It's pretty great.
We'll see. I've been in the theater more
this week than I have in the past like six months, which is
crazy because I've only been twice trying to think outside of
that. Nothing too crazy, just been a
week. Very EP as always.

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But you know, we power through, we make it, and it is what?
And here we are. We're back on the show.
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Now I think we can get into somenews because there's a, there's

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a good bit to talk about here, so.
Lead us through the news, Sir. Bit of people people bebop news
so. What did I do last time?
I don't remember, it was something funny.
Hold. On Let me, Let me find it,
because I have to. We have to be consistent.
I have to be consistent, I know.Because I had like three people
message me and be like, that wasreally funny.
Please keep doing that. And I was like, good, that means

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it had the intended effect. We just apparently wasn't funny
enough for us to remember. Well, it was 2 weeks.
Ago I didn't what time? Stamps in No.
What I will say while he's looking for our news intro this
week, I lost my water bottle andI lost it at work and I knew it

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was at work. I just couldn't find it and I
went not even 24 hours without it before finding it.
But I realized how emotionally attached I was to my water
bottle because I was like genuinely kind of sad about
losing it. And I was also kind of
dehydrated, not even going to lie.

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I was like genuinely like Oh my gosh, I've had this water bottle
for like 3 years. This is the water bottle.
This is the water bottle that I bought like when I came to
college. It's like so beat up now and
it's like destroyed and has seenbetter days.
But I feel like if no one else got me, my water bottle does

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This is this is the Hydra peak blue water bottle.
It was designed in New York. Apparently this is the Hydra
Peak 32 ounce wide mouth stainless steel bottle.
Apparently I have a wide mouth. Who's to say?
Now this water bottle is not sponsored, but I am just trying

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to fill time so Nick can find his little intro thing.
Aside from that, I'm emotionallyattached to my water bottle.
What else am I doing? I can't.
Did you find it? I found it OK, good.
I was. I ran out of things to talk

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about all. Right.
I think it's time to transition into the news.
Wicka Wicka. Wow.
News Time. Booyah All right, so first point
is the new Joker sequel. Fun fact, when you the the title
of your movie is like really hard to read and understand and

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people don't call it that. So Joker 2,
it currently has a 35 on Rotten Tomatoes.
That's rough. That is across critics and

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audiences. So yeah, that's not good.
And then director Todd Phillips gave a quote and said it's not
really where this movie is headed for me and said I feel
like my time in the DC Universe was these two films.
All right, buddy. So essentially, he pulled a
gusto, got criticized once and died.

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So that's essentially what happened.
And honestly, it's probably not that way.
It's just kind of funny that, like, the second that his movie
gets, like, bad reviews, he's like, yeah, I think I'm done.
He's like, all right. I think I'm.
That's enough for me. I don't know, what do you think?

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Like, did we even need a sequel?No, because it's kind of like
the first Joker movie. I've said my piece about it.
I objectively I think it's a great movie, but personally I
don't know if I'd watch it again.
I think what's so interesting iswhat made Joker good was the
fact that it was predicated as astandalone movie.

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It was not attached to a Batman,it wasn't attached to a larger
cinematic universe, it just was its own thing.
So then for your sequel to not only then make this movie no
longer standalone thing, you also have essentially changed
genres entirely by making it a musical, which is not what

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people who like the first movie signed up for.
Like it'd be one thing if you went from like, oh, we're going
from an action to a mystery thriller.
Like at least you're kind of in the same wheelhouse.
But to go from action to musicalis such a large genre jump like.

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Action like thriller? Exactly.
So it's just such a weird pivot to and then to be like, well, I
don't understand why the movie'sflopping.
Well, because you left the target audience and you were
really banking on Joaquin Phoenix and Lady Gaga carrying

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this movie, which I'm sure they did fine, but I don't know, it
just seems like a movie that didn't need a sequel to begin
with. But then we got one 'cause they
were like, well, the first one was so radically successful
because Hollywood's very bad about that of every time
something succeeds, it becomes it becomes a sequel.
So you're you're stuck in this like limbo of like, well, it

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can't do so well that it green lights a sequel, but it needs to
break even. But if it flops then we stop
doing original stuff and we justget remakes and like.
Reboots. Reboots.
That's the word I was looking for.
I almost said remasters, but that's video games.
Well, you can do remasters of films.

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It's just not really practical. Yeah.
So it's like, I don't know, man,it didn't need to exist, but it
does, and here we are. So it's the kind of thing where,
like, I was reading like a Hollywood Reporter article about
Todd Phillips saying that he wasdone.
And he even said he was like, you don't make a movie that

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grosses over a billion dollars without a sequel talking.
Yes, you do. And I was like, yeah, but you.
Can you move on to the next project?
You move on to the next billion dollar thing.
And it's the kind of thing whereit's like, I understand if DC
was like, well, we're making a sequel whether you're here or
not. And I'm kind of like, OK, well,

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as the director, you could say I'm good.
And if they go on and ruin it, then at least your name is
clear. Like, you know, you're not.
It's like, well, yeah, it's not good because they switched
directors or even like, hey, it was better because they switched
directors, right? And so, I don't know, some of

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the reviews are kind of funny. I really like this one that says
Phillips never pays off the promise of an extravagant song
and dance spectacle. It turns into a full blown
Batman musical. And so I don't know, this one

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says is way too involved in staging magnificent looking
sequences to chase its ambitions.
The movie never gets there, leaving you with stunning
visuals and an exploration of psychosis as a limp of one of
Arthur's jokes, which is, man, that's brutal.

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But also like, where was there to take the story?
Like just just leave it. I feel like, I feel like they
were going off so much like shock and intrigue factor that
it just wasn't, they didn't haveanywhere to go.
But what's really funny is they pigeonholed themselves here

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because Joker's story continues as being the antagonist to
Batman. Like that's the where that story
goes. But because of the Robert
Pattinson Batman movie they don't want to do.
Another version of Batman, but they don't want to tie this
Joker to Batman so. See, that's why that's why DC is

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like so hard to build a genuine fan base because they're like,
well, you either like this side or this side or this side or
this side. And then they can't just they
can't just put it all together because it's just not this.
I don't know, they're so split up.
I'm probably not going to see it.
I'll probably listen to the album just to see what I think.

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Because I think Lady Gaga's a really good singer and a really
good actress, and I think Joaquin Phoenix is really good.
But like, if you don't give themgood writing, then you know
what? What are they supposed to do?
They cannot. They're essentially an actor's
job is to do what they're told. And so like, if they're not told
the right thing, like they couldperform well and just have trash

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dialogue. I don't know, updates to follow
on that. Everyone seems to be pretty
disappointed. And I'm kind of like, well, what
do you want from me? Moving on to some AI news.
And then everyone just probably collectively grown.
It was like, Oh my gosh, AI. Yeah, you're right.

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And I'm going to get to that in a second.
Apparently, James Cameron has joined the board of directors
for Stability AI, saying that I was at the forefront of the of
CGI over three decades ago, and I've stayed on the cutting edge
since. Now the intersection of
generative AI in CGI image creation is the next.

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Wave thoughts. Hold on, I'm writing down
another news point so you give your thoughts first.
All right, guys, So James Cameron is our favorite director
to hate because any time he doesanything, it is just.

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He's always giving, like, the worst take possible on any given
situation. And it's so frustrating.
And his movies aren't even really that good, So no.
Anyway, Anyway, yeah, I just, I've actually got a lot to say

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on just the forefront of AI in general, so I'm going to toss it
to you for a minute, OK? You just kind of give your
thoughts, give your thoughts on James specifically before I go
in my AI. Ring I just want to say to
everyone joining the James Cameron hate bandwagon, One,
you're late, you're late. Two, get off the bandwagon.

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You don't get to come here just because your favorite guy says
he likes AI. You can you can go # sand and
get out of here. I've been a hater since day one.
OK, I'm an OG hater, don't startappropriating my hating, OK?
Just 'cause he's just cause AI is the new hip thing to hate,

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even though it's not really thatbad if you use it properly.
And I'm sure we'll get into thatconversation again here in a
minute. You don't get to hate, OK?
I get it. I feel so vindicated.
I feel so vindicated as a James Cameron hater after this came
out because I'm like, oh, oh, oh, you understand now.
You see what I'm saying? Are you not entertained?

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This is the man you've heralded as the next, like, leader of the
film industry. And I'm over here telling you
he's just as bad as everyone else.
You're like, no, but he makes really good Avatar movies, and
he made the Titanic, and his movies are like 3 1/2 hours
long, and there's no need to trim them.
But it's OK, Shut up. He's just as bad and it

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shouldn't have taken you seeing him endorse AI to understand
that. So true.
OK, I love the please don't don't appropriate my hate
culture. I've been here for the
beginning. So this week this is going to
get this is going to get a little nerdy here for so please

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bear with me. Oh, we are the I'm reading this
book right now. This is a book called The Visual
Display of Quantitative Information.
Now, before you tune off and think I'm about to give you a
lecture, don't worry, I am. So this book by Edward Tufte,
The Visual Display of Quantitative Information is all
about the science of data visualizations.

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And it's all about the history and the science of how to make
good charts, how to show data. And it's very fascinating.
And he says some stuff in this book that struck me so hard.
And he he talks about how essentially the computer program
has ruined data visualization because it became too easy to

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make cluttered charts. And so back in the day when they
would draw charts by hand, they did this thing called ink
maximalizing, where you only hada certain amount of ink for your
chart because you couldn't afford more.
And so you had to, every single drop of ink counted when you
were drawing on this. But then computers came along

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and we decided that we could just put a ton of fancy graphics
everywhere and it's going to be great.
And he said in in this book, he says some people want credit for
simply owning a new technology when they actually have nothing
to contribute to art. And I'm just completely floored

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by this idea, the idea that he said some people want credit for
simply owning a new technology when they have nothing to
contribute to art. And this is what AI is doing
right now. People like James Cameron, big
companies that are like, we're doing AI enhanced this and Apple
being like, update your phone, we're doing this AI enhanced

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thing, this whole. And it's like, this is just a
marketing buzzword. And you know, you think you can
throw a ton of computer graphicsin a movie and think that you
can call it a day. Like you can't have credit
simply for owning a new technology.

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And he said in this book, he said all of these graphics
initiate they evoke the response.
Isn't it remarkable that the computer can be programmed to
draw like this instead of sayingmy, what interesting data.
So translation, when we use AI and these new technologies in

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our movies and we lean on them as a crutch, we are saying,
isn't it incredible that a computer can do this instead of
saying look at this incredible story.
And there is such just an epidemic of like lack of good
story right now. And that's why I love the Wild
Robot is because it was both. It was an amazing animation

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style that was gorgeous. But it wasn't carried by that.
It wasn't just, yeah, we have this new technology, we're going
to show it off. And so, you know, by simply
owning AI, by simply using AI and going through AI in this
new, oh, we're going to use all this CGI imagery and we're going
to do this. You don't get a pass by simply

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using that. That's not the point.
If you don't at your core have good story, you're screwed.
And that's kind of what the James Cameron movies feel like
to me is they're all about the spectacle.
It's the Avatar. Oh, isn't this amazing that we
did motion capture for all this stuff?
Look at this water and everything.

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Yes, that's amazing. That's a spectacle.
That's gorgeous. But if you strip that away,
what's there like an OK story. Like, you know, that's kind of
where I'm at with all this stuff.
And like that reading that way to read it for a class.
And I was just like, this is phenomenal.

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Yeah, and I think what's great is in the opposite direction.
Nintendo made a comment about AIthis week where they talked
about how that's just something everyone wants to do and they're
going to move in the opposite direction.
And that's so good. Shigeru Miyamoto.

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Or maybe it was Shinturu for Akawa.
Either way, it was either Miyamoto who's like creator of
Mario, Zelda, whatever. The guy for Akawa, who's the
president and CEO of Nintendo right now, essentially said we
want to move in a different direction and we want to keep
doing our own thing and being creative.

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And all these other companies are always chasing after the new
hip thing, but we're just going to keep doing our own thing.
But also in that he said, how did he word it?
In that he said he essentially was like it's frustrating that
AI keeps being heralded as this big evil thing when we've been

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using AI in development for a long time like in like and he
even self admitted he was like, we use AI in Nintendo games and
we use it to help make NPC interaction better and run
dialogue and have better, you know, enemy combat AI and

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generating these random sandbox worlds.
Like AI has been in things for awhile, but it's only now because
of the bad rap and honestly arguably questionable use of
generative AI that now all AI things are getting lumped into
it. And if you use ChatGPT to figure

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out what the weather is, Oh well, that's AI.
And that's evil and bad. When it's no different is
pulling up The Weather Channel on your phone or searching
through the YouTube algorithm. That's an AI that's serving you
things you want to see. Scrolling through Facebook
Marketplace. It's an AI looking at where you
live and finding your likes, dislikes and whatnot and serving
you stuff. There's plenty of great

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reasonable uses of AI without having to get into the
generative stuff. And I think honestly, if, and I
think generative AI to a certainextent is fine.
Like we use a lot of like the Bing image generator for our DND
campaign that I'm in of like, oh, we're going to generate our

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characters and we're going to generate MPC.
So we have something visual to look at 'cause this is just for
fun on the side like, but even then, like I've gone and paid an
actual artist to make an actual art like Commission of my DND
character because I'm like, OK, we're getting deep in this
campaign. Like I want to have a solidified
thing. But outside of that, the AI is

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fine because it gives us what wewant.
We're not trying to make money off of we're not like trying to
do anything. But then if you're.
You're not claiming it as your own.
Right. But then if you're a Disney,
that's like, oh, we're going to use AI to do the backgrounds for
us. Like it's.
Like OK, hold. On Wait a minute, yeah, 'cause
there is a very fine line between using AI as a tool and

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then using it to replace other people.
Because AI absolutely can be used to make jobs easier, more
efficient, get things done faster.
There's definitely a way to do that, but you have to walk the
line of like, are we using this efficiently and correctly or are
we just trying to cut costs and replace people because the AI is

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free or the premium AI costs significantly less than a
consistent employee. You know what I mean?
So it's like trying to find a balance there.
And I don't like this shift in the Hollywood industry that has
always been about art and like making these great cinematic
films that you're then like hijacking with AI because it's

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the new thing. And it's, it's, it's the, it's
the extreme end of capitalism that is too toxic.
Cause capitalism is great until you take it to the extent of
like, OK, well, now we're using AI to replace people 'cause we
don't want to pay people. Like, OK, hold on, hold on.
Profits aren't that important. OK, Like we can we can lose a

(33:00):
little bit to make sure that good old Timmy can feed his
family this week. You know what I'm?
Saying, well, my favorite, my favorite thing I've seen
recently is it was like it said,I love that we accidentally
proved the existence of the human soul with AI by showing us
what art would look like withoutit.
Yeah. And I was just like, man, yeah,

(33:24):
here we are. And like you said, like we've
used like computer algorithms for years.
Computer algorithms have been around since like the 70s.
Like we're an algorithm is not AI.
And even if it is, like you said, like you know, if you're

(33:46):
playing Star Wars Battlefront offline doing a survival map, Oh
my gosh, I'm fighting AI stormtroopers.
But but AI is evil. No, just just stop.
This isn't this isn't worth it. And also I'm curious to see
what's after AI because we're kind of talking about it like
it's the end all be all. And it's like, yeah, AI is the

(34:09):
future. Like we won't, we will not have
another thing after AI. And I'm like, yeah, that's what
they said about the Internet andit like became a thing and we
use it all the time, but we evolved past that.
And so it's kind of like, what'sthe next thing and how long will

(34:29):
it be AI? So I don't know.
I'm just kind of sick of the buzzword.
I'm kind of, I'm really sick of being like a taking a stance on
AI and it's like no one gives a crap anymore.
AI sucks. I'm going to be so honest.
Like I use it for like help on projects to be like, hey, can

(34:52):
you summarize this for me? Or can you, you know, generate
these like 10 prompts for me to answer so that I can know this
deeper and, you know, all this stuff.
But but to say that it's going to replace someone's job, we,
it's not that advanced at least yet.

(35:12):
And also fun fact, if you hire an AI, you have to hire someone
to manage the AI and install. And so it's like, so it's still.
Making a job somewhere down. The line, yeah, it's just not
worth it. It's stupid.
So there's only one specific, very specific instance where I

(35:36):
feel like AI could and probably should replace someone's job.
And it's And when I say it said and I have.
I'm about to talk about this in a video on how the West is
ruining anime. And one of the ways they're
doing that is through localization.
Because obviously there's a big language barrier between anime

(35:59):
made in Japan and English speaking countries out here like
America. And there are multiple
documented cases where localizers are actively changing
the story because they don't like it.
So they're changing it and putting their own ideologies and
their own political beliefs intoit.
And it's all one side, by the way.
So that is the only case where I've seen people be like, maybe

(36:25):
we should fire those localizers and get AI to do the
translations because at least the AI is unbiased and will
translate accurately now, right?There is a little nuance to that
where I'm like, I don't know howI feel about like replacing a
job, but I can see you using AI to essentially transcribe an

(36:49):
episode faster and then you go in and make tweaks to it like
this. What I do when I edit YouTube
Shorts, it's the premier AI scanning through my audio log,
generating a transcript, and then I go in and I'm like, OK,
that word's slightly off. You misheard this.
Like I'm going to correct it as we go, but it makes the process
a whole lot faster than if I go in there and I'm trying to type

(37:12):
in Word for Word what I said. So I think that's where AI could
come in handy with localization and also getting more accurate
things. Yeah, I just think localizers
need to be put in check, but that's completely.
Different, right? Completely different thing.
But also if you think about likedoes AI have a bias?
Because The thing is, an AI willspit out whatever you feed it,

(37:34):
so. That is also.
True, you feed it the wrong thing.
It definitely will be bias. That's why I'm also very careful
about what I put in because I doa lot of creative writing on the
side, right? So I, if I'm asking a question
about like a creative project, instead of saying generate me

(37:55):
this, I'll say generate me factsabout this time period that I
should know, right? So then I can say, OK, well,
it's compiling this information for me.
Now I can move this over here tomy thing that's got all the
names I came up with and like all of the stuff.
So you do have to be careful with what you put in there

(38:17):
because at least the way I'm familiar with how chant GPT
works is it's gathering. Like if I put something in and
you ask that same question laterdown the line, it'll then feed
you what I put in. So it's like collecting from
everyone who inputs to it. So if you input stuff in there,

(38:40):
obviously it'll. I mean well, and people freak
out about that, but that's just how cookies work.
Like when you accept cookies on a website, it's gathering your
data to make for a better user experience.
That is absolutely with anythingthat you put in the ChatGPT, you
are essentially surrendering to it and it is gathering that
information not to sell because honestly, AI isn't profitable

(39:05):
and open AI is bleeding money right now.
They just paid off like a $4 billion acquisition thing is
wild. So anything that you're pouring
in, it's using to make it betteruser experience, which isn't
like I'm personally not worried about like, oh, I pasted the

(39:26):
script in the ChatGPT and then Isaw it on Netflix like a month
later. Like that's not what's going to
happen. It's just kind of like generally
be careful about your digital footprint.
Something that does frustrate meand this is the last thing I'll
say and we can move on to the next thing because I know we
have a couple more to go through.

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What does frustrate me is this incessant push for AI to come
into the YouTube space. That's where I've seen it a lot
of like, let AI generate your title, your thumbnail, your
tags, your description. And it's like if I see any,
there was one YouTube channel I followed.

(40:08):
I think it was like vid IQ or something.
I still use their plug in because the plug insurance very
helpful. But the channel themselves was
putting in a lot of great like YouTube tips.
Here's how to game the algorithmand like here's what you should
need to know. Best posting times da da da da
da da. But then they hit a certain
point either early this year or last year where they really

(40:33):
started pushing AI in terms of like, don't make a thumbnail
yourself. Go on our AI thumbnail generator
and just type in what words you want and you can get a very
specific thumbnail. And as someone who takes a lot
of pride and joy in my own thumbnails, and I think they're
really good, that doesn't mean they are.
It just means I enjoy it and I enjoy the process.

(40:54):
Like some nights part of my relaxing is just turning on a
podcast or some music and I'm just going to work on a the
handful of thumbnails that I have because I think it's fun.
It's a very creative process. So to see AI try to invade this
space and be like, hey, I want to replace what you do there.

(41:17):
And I think everyone who's afraid of that, don't be because
like me, if I see AI in a video thumbnail, I'm going to steer
away from it because that tells me you cut corners on your
thumbnail and could imply that you also cut corners in your
content. And that's not what I'm here

(41:39):
for. My time is too valuable to watch
someone who cuts corners on thatkind of stuff.
So. So true.
We could do a whole episode on AI honestly.
I could go off, but yeah, movingon the Fortnite Crocs.
Let's go Fortnite Crocs. I would be on day one.
October 29th dude aren't they like $70?

(42:03):
I don't know, let me find it. I own one pair of Crocs and I've
To be fair, I'm on year three ofthese Crocs and they're still in
perfect condition. The.
Price is. So.
At $70. OK, to be fair, I've had the
same pair of Crocs for three years and they're still in

(42:23):
perfect condition. So like, you're getting what
you're paying for. And if you look at the prices of
shoes, sure, like, you know, generally speaking, like shoes
are more than that now. But man, the Fortnite Crocs,
they're kind of dope. See, they're kind of dope, but
I'm looking at pictures and like, they're kind of just

(42:46):
purple Crocs. With gibbets on them, which I
don't even like gibbets. I I like gibbets.
I don't like that there's two square ones on here that are
massive and just take up like somuch vertical space.
You know what I mean? Like I have the Buzz Lightyear
cracks and I think those are cool because they really went

(43:08):
all in with the theming and it'snot just color with this.
And I'm like, dude. Or like the Lightning McQueen
Crocs where like very clearly, but this is, yeah, this is very
is is it supposed to be the battle bus?
I don't know. They're kind of cool.

(43:28):
Not not with the Crocs that I would spend $70.00 on though.
Like everyone look up a picture and let us know your thoughts.
Another thing that happened thisweek was Minecraft Live and they
said some interesting stuff. They announced a new Biome
called the Pale Garden with a mob called the creaking, I
believe, kind of spooky good, like spooky season vibe.

(43:52):
So I'm not mad. I think that looks cool.
I think Minecraft is in a weird spot where they are just kind of
like, well, now what? And so they're just kind of keep
adding random stuff, but this isactually kind of cool.
And then they showed a new clip from the Minecraft movie that
looks fine. We saw like a behind the scene

(44:14):
picture of Jack Black as like young Steve.
And I'm just like, all right. Are we actually going to do the
Jumanji? Like been trapped in the game
forever kind of thing 'cause like, I don't think we really
want that. So I don't know.
I still have hope. I'm going to go see it opening

(44:36):
night probably, but yeah, nothing really insane to to say.
Yeah, man. Minecraft is Minecraft you.
Know Minecraft. Be Minecraft.
All right, hit me with that lastpoint.
OK, hold on, I'm finishing a tweet.
You're finishing a tweet mid podcast.

(44:57):
Yeah, I'll tell you. I'll tell you about it after,
because then I don't want to talk about it.
He. Said I don't.
I don't want to talk about it onair because it's unrelated
anyway. I don't want to talk about it,
OK? So this came out this week and I
want to hear your thoughts on this, OK?

(45:18):
OK, let me hear them. Studios are assembling super fan
focus groups to assess various materials for a franchise
project to avoid social media backlash.
And then there's a quote from I guess some other person or
entity or representative and it's they will just tell us if
you do that, fans are going to retaliate.

(45:41):
If it's early enough and the movie isn't finished yet, we can
make those kind of changes. So before I give my thoughts,
'cause I have plenty do share. How do you feel about that?
So essentially studios are doingfocus groups of super fans in
hope to change the movie before it goes out if they don't like

(46:07):
something. Yes.
So is this like an ugly Sonic kind of thing?
I guess. So.
I mean, honestly, depending on the how the groups are set up,
not a bad idea because it's kindof like, OK, sure.

(46:27):
Like these like, 'cause if you put the Sonic focus group up and
the focus group is like a random45 year old man and a kid and
then like a late, it's like, yeah, I'm.
And then the guys like, yeah, I like Sonic.
I guess it's probably, it's fineversus like, oh, I love Sonic,

(46:47):
It's my favorite game and this is the ugliest movie I'd ever
seen. It's like, yeah, that's probably
the opinion you want is the Sonic superfan.
Or if you think about like the Minecraft movie, the the problem
is though, I'm like the Minecraft movie, if you get all
the Super fans in there and they're like, yeah, scrap it.

(47:08):
This is not it. Like this, then what?
Then what? Then what?
And then like those focus group people are going to start coming
out and being like, hey, guys, this sucks.
And so it's kind of like a, a double or nothing at that point,
Yeah. I'm interested to see how this

(47:29):
goes because let's take like I it it solely depends on how they
set up the groups. Because to Hollywood, the
definition of a super fan is different than our definition of
a super fan. Because in the minds of like

(47:51):
Disney, apparently the rabid, more liberal side of the Star
Wars fan base is probably who they would have pulled and focus
grouped for something like the Acolyte, as opposed to someone
who's been like a lifelong Star Wars fan since day one.

(48:13):
They're going to pull from over here.
So I think it depends on how thegroups are set up.
You kind of need a little bit ofboth.
But I don't know. There's also a part of me that's
like, maybe don't like on paper,yes, this is a great idea, but
at a certain extent you kind of have to respect the creative

(48:36):
decision of what happened, like.Right.
I'm going to bring out The Acolyte again, even though it's
not a movie. It's just the thing I can think
of the most in recent memory. Like you could bring in a Star
Wars fan and do a focus group and be like, hey, here's some
aspects of where the lore kind of got broken.
And like, I don't think that's going to go over very well with

(48:58):
the general fanbase. So maybe you like, you should go
back in and tweak that. And I think that would have been
something very constructive, especially in helping that show
because a lot of the of like, hey, guys, there's fire in space
like that. The Star Wars fans aren't going
to like that one. Like we kind of like you need a
medium between the studio and the general audience of like,

(49:24):
hey, we understand that like you're trying to bring this new
creative vision, but at the sametime, like.
This isn't what we. Want fire in space, man, people
aren't going to like that. You've got to change that.
So and well, there's something to say for like, yes, the
audience should have an input, but I'm also like as a creative,

(49:47):
like maybe the odd, maybe the movie isn't for you.
Like, I hate that phrase. There's.
AI understand it's true, but I hate that phrase.
Right. I know, I know the context
you're using in. It right, because there is a bad
context to that phrase saying like, oh, the Minecraft movies
for kids, maybe it's not for you.
It's like, OK, maybe you shouldn't just maybe you

(50:08):
shouldn't like narrow your audience like that.
What I'm saying is, like, if I'mmaking my dream movie and these
are my decisions, and then some superfan comes in and says, no,
this is all wrong, who are they?Who are they to know better?
And we're in a weird point because we apparently studios

(50:32):
are less picky on who they let direct things now, especially
like Star Wars. So like 10 years ago, this would
have been a terrible idea because we could just be like,
yeah, we just need to trust the creative division, the creative
vision of our directors. I think instead of super fan
groups telling directors what todo, we just need to hire good

(50:54):
directors and not, just not haveto do this in the 1st place.
Yeah. So yeah, yeah, that sounds like
a. Great beast.
I don't know. Sounds like a great idea.
Maybe if we treated the audiencelike they had at least five
brain cells, we wouldn't have toask their opinion.
That's the problem. I wonder if this kind of stuff

(51:16):
is going to curb the more progressive ideas in movies.
This see, that's that's another aspect of like it depends on the
focus group, because if you put me in there and it's like, Hey,
we're going to show you this newPixar movie and it's going to
gay character it I'll be like, hey, listen, obviously there's
my own personal beliefs, but I don't think the general family

(51:38):
audience is going to appreciate that.
So maybe you want to tone that back.
So I wonder if that's going to curb any of it or if they're
essentially going to put together these superfan groups
because here here's the really diabolical thing they could do.
Just go with me here. You put together this superfan
group. Yeah.

(51:59):
And you just bring in all of thesame people, but you label them
as a superfan group. And then you continue to make
all of the same things that you would have done anyway, but now
you're running it through the superfan group.
Note for those who are listeningto the audio, because not
everyone can see lots of air quotes around superfan air quote
super. So then when your movie comes
out, you can then blame shift and say, well, the superfan said

(52:23):
it would be OK. Our superfan test group said it
would be OK. So why don't you guys like it?
Now? I don't think that would work in
the long run because you can only blame shift like that so
many times before people catch up.
But but. I'm not saying it's out of the
question. I wouldn't put it past someone
like Disney who's really sick and tired of getting their

(52:44):
everything boycotted. And they're like, you know what?
We're going to blame Shift. We're going to put this on
someone else. It's not on us anymore.
You guys just we asked the Superfans and they said it was fine.
So if you don't like this, you just must not be a real fan.
They did a lot of that with the acolytion.
They're like if you actually don't like lore breaking events

(53:04):
that completely ruin the Canon of the current movies, you're
just a fake fan. And it's like no, it's because I
value those things that I am a fan.
Quit trying to gate keep me frommy own.
Series Lord. Every day, I believe that George
Lucas hates that he sold the rights to Disney.
I think he just stares at the ceiling at night and it's just

(53:27):
like, man, what did I do? And then he and then he kisses
his billion dollar check good night and then like just goes to
sleep. Dude, if I were him I'd be like,
we're net negative now with Star.
I'd be like my bad cheek. Like the acolyte put us at net

(53:48):
negative. We were kind of like breaking
even, but now it's it's negative.
We are actively bad. I don't know man it.
Yeah. So hey, thank you for making it
this far in the episode. And I think we're ready to move
on to to what we're what we're going to talk about.

(54:09):
This is the movies we delete forever draft.
Now, if you don't know how a draft works, we both have chosen
movies that we would like to delete forever, which I think is
an interesting conversation because a movie you would like
to delete is not just a movie you dislike.
A movie you'd like to delete is.I don't like the cultural impact

(54:33):
that this movie had, and I'd like to erase that, which is way
different than, I don't know, I didn't like it.
So we have both chosen movies that we think should be deleted
forever. But since it's a draft, we will
both be building a team of five movies and we cannot use the

(54:53):
same movies. So if one of us takes a movie,
that movie is out of the game and then we will build our teams
and maybe. We'll.
Let you guys vote on who has thebest team.
Who's to say We didn't discuss that?
But Nick, I'm going to flip a coin.
No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

(55:14):
no, no, no, no. I've done this system that is
about as secure as a United States presidential election, so
you can trust me. Clear as mud.
I have a red and blue Expo marker cap in my hands here.
I shuffle them up here. I'll shuffle them up some more

(55:34):
behind my chair just to like, give you a little bit more
confidence since I can't make you use an ID to vote this time.
Right. So here's what I'm going to do.
You can pick either red or blue and then pick a sign.
OK. And then I'll let you go 1st and
whichever color, So like if you pick blue and it's red, then I

(55:56):
go first. All right.
All right, all right, So you yousee what I'm.
Saying I got you all right, so you pick a color.
This is matrix style. Matrix style which?
Pill. Do you want red pill or blue
pill? I actually don't know if that's
right. I I don't know.
I'm going to go with the classic.
Right hand red, right hand red, right hand blue.

(56:18):
No L take. Li.
Got red, which means I get to go. 1st All right, all right.
OK. What's your first?
So you're number one. Let me.
Pull up my list. Yeah.
So what's interesting? Doing this draft style instead
of normal like top five is because we can't duplicate.

(56:39):
I have to actually think about the order in which I I choose
these things. Right, the order of which you
care. So I'm going to start strong,
OK, and take one that you might have also had on your list.
I'm sure. And it's going to be Star Wars

(57:00):
The Rise of Skywalker. I knew it.
I have to take it. That was the first movie I had.
I'm known for hating this movie,dude.
You know how much of Star Wars we could save?
We could put ourselves back in the net positive.
So if we got rid of Star Wars The Rise of Skywalker.
So run the scenario. So run the.
Scenario of Skywalker is gone. The Rise of Skywalker is gone,

(57:24):
and it just ends at The Last Jedi.
There is. You don't even you don't even
want another one, no like. No.
OK, interesting, because at least with The Last Jedi you
could say that yes, it never gotconcluded, but it wasn't a good
or bad conclusion. So it's kind of net neutral on
concluding that story specifically.

(57:45):
OK. You can head cannon and theorize
all you want on how it ends. It's kind of like Inception.
You leave the you leave it with an open end.
And you're like, you know, you figured.
Out what a day interesting. So that's now how would I do it?
I don't know, would I go back intime and?
Just go back in time, burn the. Script and be a living nightmare

(58:11):
of this production and eventually get it cancelled.
Or would I just steal the hard drive that it's on and wipe it
from existence? I don't know, that's up for
interpretation. Personally, I like the third.
I like the first one. You should visit Colin Trevaro
in a dream and tell him. Tell him not to do it.
Don't do. Jurassic World.

(58:32):
Don't do it. Drop.
Out on Star Wars, we need your vision.
Here we need your vision, brother.
All right, All right. So whereas the Skywalker's off
the table, I got a since since it's a draft, I'm also got to
start strong. All right, my number one movie
that I would like to erase from existence is the 2019 Lion King.

(58:57):
Oh, good, good. I didn't put that on mine
because I knew you were going totake it.
Yep. So this is the air quote.
Live action Lion King that is son fabric.
Is grossing animated movie of all time now?
Thank you. Praise God.
So listen, Oh my gosh, sorry. I just there was an ad on this

(59:19):
letterbox for Weird Al tickets and I was like, yo, holy crap,
Weird al anyway, I'm sorry. So Jon Favreau is one of my
favourite directors, genuinely is.
I love The Mandalorian, I love Elf, I love Iron Man, like great
stuff. But this was such a bad idea.

(59:41):
And I hate what this movie did to Disney and to the movie
industry because it was a syntel.
Inside Out too was the highest grossing animated movie of all
time and held that record for years.

(01:00:03):
And I hate that because this movie genuinely has nothing
creative to add. It is.
It is the quintessential representation of wanting credit
for simply owning a new technology.
It is. We're doing the exact same thing

(01:00:28):
but making it fancier. Boom, couple billion dollars?
No, you don't deserve that. Especially when there's so many
amazing animated movies out there that are just so much more
creative and gorgeous than that.No, no, no, no, no, my friend.
The fact that we call this the live action Lion King and then
may say it's the highest grossing animated movie grinds

(01:00:51):
my gears, man. I can't do this anymore.
So there you go. There we go.
That's how. How would I do it?
Personally, I would have a real lion come in and eat the script.
I'd call The MGM Lion out of retirement so that.
Might be animal abuse. No, no, no.

(01:01:14):
Don't put the lion, they're eating it.
It's just The Lion King. I mean we.
True. I would have him eat.
Cannibalism. I would have him eat the
computer that they that they made this CG on don't.

(01:01:36):
Think Don't think that's good either.
I mean, what do you want from me?
It's a scenario where I'm calling a lion out of retirement
to end a movie. I don't think that's where we're
getting. We're getting caught up.
I would do it. I would do it Zoolander style,
where he's like, oh, I thought the files were in the computer.

(01:02:01):
All right, all right. I'm genuine.
I'm I feel like this has to be an incredibly solid vibe.
Yeah. Would it?
I'm scared. The verdict on Spawn killing
movies? Like taking ones that aren't out
yet? Personally, I think it's funny.

(01:02:24):
I think it's funny, OK? I'm not going to take one now.
I'm just. Right.
Just asking for future reference.
It's like in my backups, I'm going to do another movie that
is the bane of my existence thatshould not exist.

(01:02:47):
I'm so scared because there's a movie that I want that I think
you're also going to have. I don't know, we'll see.
I might get really petty towardsthe end.
My last one might. Be a petty pic.
We'll see. It's a movie I don't think
you've seen, OK, And I may subject you to it in the after

(01:03:08):
show one day, OK. But that just depends on if I
want to subject myself to it. And it's going to be The Little
Mermaid 2, Return to the Sea. This movie, genuinely one of the
worst movies ever made. It's not a good movie because
it's The Little Mermaid in reverse.

(01:03:29):
Instead of instead of it's like a mirror map on Mario Kart.
Instead of turning right, you turn left.
It's the same track, you're justdoing it in the opposite way.
So instead of her kid being a mermaid who can't go to the
surface, she's a surface human who can't go to the ocean.
And then there's still an evil octopus who wants to get the
Trident and from King Triton, and there's no communication.

(01:03:56):
How would I do it? Well, it would require a large a
large grandstanding of arson at the Disney Studios.
A large grandstanding of arson. Yeah.
And I was like the kind of like in that episode of Brooklyn 99

(01:04:19):
where they caught the arsonist who was spelling things out, I
would have spelled things out from the air and been like, I'm
from the future, don't make thismovie.
Don't make this movie. And then just leave it at the
end and they'd be like, wow, even God's telling us not to
make this movie. And I'd be like, oh, that wasn't
God. That was me that.
Was me fool. Not me.

(01:04:39):
God's got better things to do than tell you to not make that
movie. OK, how do I want to play this?
Be wise because if you steal oneof mine and be petty, I will
absolutely swing back and hit you.
That's the thing, I have one that I'm.

(01:05:02):
Put Sword Online on there, you coward.
You won't. I know.
It's not. No, that's not even it.
That's not even what I'm thinking.
OK, I would like my number two pick to be Indiana Jones in the
Dial of Destiny. How would I do it?

(01:05:27):
Here's the thing. Dial of Destiny, everyone.
Everyone you know it's a feat when you release a movie that it
makes people say I mean Crystal School wasn't that bad like it
it was fine. It Dial of Destiny is genuinely
one of the most depressing movies I've ever seen because I

(01:05:48):
got up to pee, not because I hadto pee, but because I was bored
and I was like, I'm trying to stay awake going to get the
blood flowing. So it's just kind of like, what
if we took your favorite character, right, right, right
and made him depressed? And what if we took away the
girl that he, we spent like 4 movies trying to get him to

(01:06:11):
marry, right? And you know how it like ends
really well and how like they'remarried.
Scrap that, throw that crap out of here.
Make him super depressed, I'm really sad and then throw, you
know, how do we make this better?
How about a British person? How about we make a British
woman in this movie? Somehow they thought that that

(01:06:35):
was the solution to a good movie.
All right, so Dial A Destiny, man.
I saw it in theaters. I saw my math professor in the
lobby after and he was like, yo,how was it?
And I was like, it's pretty good.
And then the next time I saw him, he was like, you lied to

(01:06:57):
me. That movie sucked.
It was like it wasn't. I wasn't trying to spoil it.
So how would I do it? I would take the dial, go back
in time and I would bail Shy LaBeouf out of prison so that he
could be the next Indiana Jones.That is what I would.

(01:07:17):
That's my solution is we we clean up Shy LaBeouf, help him
find Jesus, and then make another Indiana Jones movie with
him like they clearly intended. Expedite that process a little
bit, because I think that's where he's at now.
Is it speed it up a little bit? I think so.
Yeah. Are you thinking of Russell
Brand? No.

(01:07:37):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm thinking of Shia LaBeouf.
Let me Google it. No, you you do your next one and
I'm going to Google this real. OK, you Google that.
Is Shia LaBeouf a Christian? I think he is, but I also don't
know if that was specifically for one.
Rough Christian. OK, my next pick.
I think he's Catholic. Oh.

(01:08:00):
Man, so close yet so far. Yeah, I think he's Catholic.
It's OK, I know Catholic, so I can say that close enough.
OK, well I can't pick Dial of Destiny, which means I'm going
to have to dip into one of my backups.
I can't do live action Lion Kingthat was in my backups.

(01:08:25):
Let's get a spawn kill in here. I love this.
We're about halfway through. We need to get a spawn kill in
here. I'm going to say this might be

(01:08:45):
controversial. Oh gosh.
I wouldn't put it past this company.
Wait, no, wrong company. I still wouldn't put it past
them. You know, there's a movie that
came out recently that still needs a sequel, and that sequel
is currently in production. Hell, we don't know where it's
at. Oh oh.

(01:09:08):
So what I'm thinking here is instead of like just in
indefinitely delaying it, we just cancel it and leave it as
an open end. And much like The Last Jedi and
as, as I said before, you know, Inception, just leave it
open-ended because Inception wasreally successful at being a

(01:09:29):
confusing movie that no one really understands and it has an
open end. And so there you go.
That's why I'm saying for tax purposes we need to delete
Spider Man beyond the spider verse.
Wow. Because holy, hear me out, hear
me out, self admitted by the people who like this movie.

(01:09:51):
Why is someone from work callingme that's going to go to
voicemail? Because I'm not at work anymore.
So here's the thing. Completely lost my train of
thought self. Admittedly by the people that
like this movie. Oh, thank you self admittedly by

(01:10:13):
the people that like this movie.Spider Man.
Across the Spider Verse is the greatest animated movie of the
decade. Which means that Beyond the
Spider Verse can never exceed that.
It can never be better than Across the Spider Verse.
So why even bother making a sequel if if we're not going to

(01:10:37):
top the first one, let's just not make another one?
That's so funny. So that's my next pick is spider
man beyond the spider verse. That is such an for.
Tax purposes, How would I do it?I would pay Phil Lord and Chris
Miller more money than they're getting paid to do that, to just

(01:10:58):
delete it. Wow.
Actually, no, no. No, no, no, no.
Polo, Warner Brothers. No, no, no, no, no.
Let me, let me rephrase that. I would pay them more than
they're getting paid to make it to give me all of the files.
So essentially I would buy it and then I would just hold on to
it forever. And then you.
Would watch it and be like yeah it's bad, don't watch it.

(01:11:19):
And then, yeah, I would take it to my grave with me, but that
would actually be a fake disk, not the real one.
The real 1 is hidden somewhere. And if you want to find it, you
have to dig up my grave, find the USB stick that is hidden
somewhere in my body that then gets plugged into a computer.

(01:11:44):
And you might be thinking, what's on the USB stick?
Is it a map? Is it coordinates?
Yes, but the coordinates are a bunch of file folders that are
stacked inside of each other, but they're out of order.
So you have to put the coordinates in order.
And when you put them in order and you punch in all of those

(01:12:05):
coordinates, it's just going to send you to youtube.com and
you're going to get Rickroll because the location will be non
existent 'cause I will have thrown it into a volcano.
Wow. And that's how I would do it.
That's that was beautiful. That was a beautiful.
I, I didn't, I didn't like the part where you said there was

(01:12:27):
Ausb stick hidden in your body. I, I got some pretty
questionable imagery in my brainwhen you said that.
That's on you. But I don't know man, but.
EW, get that egg off me. EW, so OK, OK, interesting
choice. Maybe it's like.
Multiple felonies if they want to do it too.

(01:12:49):
Like you can't just go up grave robbing.
That's. Not allowed, right?
Right, that's not allowed. I mean, depends anyway.
OK, I didn't, I didn't expect that choice.
I think that's super interesting.
OK #3 what am I looking at here?I'm so torn.

(01:13:10):
I've got 2 movies that I'm considering and one of them I'm
not What for this slot? One of them, one of them I'm not
super sure about. OK, so OK, ready my number three

(01:13:36):
slot I would like to do. Oh, I don't know.
I don't know if I want to say that my number three slot, I
would like to do Spider Man no Way home.
Now hear me out. Spider Man No Way Home is not a

(01:13:58):
bad movie, but it was a bad conclusion to the Tom Holland
Spider man universe and it started.
It really was kind of the tip ofthe iceberg for the multiverse
and it's just not not the move. All right, We we had so much see

(01:14:23):
Spider man, Tom Holland, Spider Man movies are so popular and
have huge potential. But then we didn't get a really
great conclusion on him because we were so busy focused on Toby
and Andrew, who already got their conclusions.
Why? Why did we need them?
I'm not mad that they were there.
I just feel like this movie started the bad part of the

(01:14:45):
multiverse where we decided if we just throw some old actor in
there, it's fine. It's fine, we'll be fine.
So how would I do it? Hear me out.
I would, I would go to the to the temple that Doctor Strange
trained at, OK? I would go there and stay there

(01:15:08):
for a few years and I would learn the ways of Doctor Strange
and I would learn all of that and become a master.
And what I would do is I would learn this, use my little
fingers and open a portal into the writers room of this movie.
And I would open and I would walk in and they're like, yo,

(01:15:29):
should we put Toby and Andrew inhere?
And I would say, no, I'm from the future.
You're going to ruin this movie.And then I would go back into my
into my little thing. I would also use my fingers and
I would open up a little portal,but just to Shake Shack so that
I could have some Shake Shack that's not related to the story.

(01:15:51):
I just really like Shake Shack. So I'd go get some Shake Shack.
And then I would come home and see that No Way Home has been
deleted. And it's a different movie now.
And it is a better movie and it's a better conclusion to Tom
Holland. Thank you.
And then you must check and watch that movie.
You were the original super fan focus group is what you're

(01:16:13):
saying? Yes, you kicked off the train
like it was this positive. Thing I was the original they I
was the original one yeah. And honestly, like Tom Holland
spider man it it probably needs a third movie like to conclude
you know he he deserves a conclusion.
Yeah, but the one that he got was not really great.

(01:16:38):
It was, it was a very much just like, yeah, we're going to throw
Toby and Andrew in here because,you know, we know fans will
freak out and we're going to genuinely edit a pause for
applause. It's just not.
I don't know who thought that was a good idea because like
bro. Watching that movie back is
awkward. Yeah, it's awkward.

(01:17:00):
Like bro brother. You they planned this whole
movie around the theater experience and so now that the
theater experience is done, we're all kind of coming to
terms with it not being a great movie so.
Speaking of not great movies. Hit me.
I only got 2 spots left and I got a lot of movies here.

(01:17:22):
Yeah, same. So I got to.
I got to get real. I think I've got I've got an odd
pick and a solid pick. I've got a pick I don't think
you expected, and then the last one is just going to make you
mad. And I'm OK with that because
it's not. It's not for no other reason
than my own personal bias. But Speaking of bad movies that

(01:17:44):
I think should not exist, OK, I'm going to go with a movie
that I don't think you've seen. OK.
And honestly, actually, no, I don't need to delete this one.
I'm changing my answer because people already act like it
doesn't exist anyway. Oh OK cool.

(01:18:05):
So changing my pick. We're going to reroute a little
bit, we're going to get another spawn kill in here and I'm going
to go with the live action Snow White.
Because it doesn't need to. Happen and and, and Disney PR
needs to get a wrangle on RachelZeigler before she bankrupts

(01:18:27):
this entire movie 'cause every time she says something I get
there's like they lose like $100,000 off of their box office
every time she says something about this movie.
And I'm like, guys, you got to rein her in or your your net.
This is going to be the first movie to make $0.00 OK?
Yeah, she just keeps talking about how terrible the movie is.

(01:18:50):
She's like, yeah, the first one was so bad in original and Evil
that we're remaking it. And I'm like, OK, your target
audience for remakes is the people who enjoyed the original,
so maybe your cast talking abouthow much they hate the original
is not the best move. Statistically.
Speaking. Just saying.
Just thought. Hypothetically, for the sake of
an argument, let's say. So yeah, I would delete.

(01:19:12):
That. How would I do it?
Well, I already tried because way back when, I don't know if
anybody knows this, there was a set fire in the soundstage that
burned the cottage that they were filming into the ground and

(01:19:33):
delayed production. Apparently that wasn't enough,
so maybe I need to go back and set a couple more fires like
that's crazy, I don't know. Or that's crazy.
I can pull like a beyond the spider verse type thing and let
them finish the movie and then just steal the hard drive.

(01:19:55):
This time I spent all my money on beyond the spider verse.
I I need to recoup some of that.So I'm just going to steal it
and upload like 11 frame every month until I die.
Yeah. And then Disney can write it off
as a tax expense and they get their money and I get the fun of

(01:20:16):
just dropping 1 frame of this like 2 hour movie for the rest
of my. Life I'm in.
I like this plan. Do you do you know those Twitter
account? There's a really good Twitter
account that's like daily SpongeBob frame and it's just
one frame of the SpongeBob movieeveryday and it's so funny.

(01:20:41):
All right, all right, I like that.
I like that while you were talking, you made me realize a
movie and I was I for a minute Ithought it was the movie you
were talking about, but this is a movie that I've seen, so it
must be different. And I don't know if it's on your

(01:21:02):
list because I didn't think of it until now, but I will.
My number four spot will be consequently Toy Story 4 now.
Good choice, good choice. Toy Story 4 is the most useless
movie on the planet. Toy Story 3 was this grand

(01:21:24):
emotional ending and it was beautiful and it was perfect.
It was exactly what we wanted. And then they said what if, and
hear me out, we kept going and I'm struggling to not make my #5
spot Toy Story 5 because it looks like they've retconned the
4th one. It looks like they've retconned

(01:21:46):
the 4th 1 entirely because they're back with Andy and
they're doing and I'm just like,OK, unless we're doing like a
weird time jump thing like that's so lazy, like just don't,
don't even bother. Like it's it's not worth it.
Now we'll say Toy Story 4 is like a gorgeous movie.
Like there is some high quality animation on this junk, but it's

(01:22:09):
just a tired story. Like no one asked for it.
It's just like, I feel like mostpeople don't even acknowledge
that this movie exists. It's just kind of like, yeah,
you know, the Toy Story trilogy And then like Toy Story 4
genuinely just feels like a spinoff or like a short.
Like it's just not, it's not in the Canon.

(01:22:31):
So yeah, that's my pick. How would I do it?
I would use my Doctor Strange skills that I learned from
deleting my last movie. And I would go to, and I would
go to Scott Lang and I would have him teach me how to shrink.
And then I would shrink down andpaint myself green, right?

(01:22:52):
And I would turn into one of thearmy men from Toy Story.
And I would take my role as an army man to go to, to go to the
studio. And I would go to the producer
and I would say, hey, it's me from the movie.
And he would flip out and he'd be like, Oh my gosh, you're not

(01:23:15):
real. You're animated.
And I'd say, hey, if you releaseToy Story 4, you will be opening
a portal to another dimension where all of the toys will be
real. And they're going to come over
and take over the world. And he's going to freak out and
he's going to delete the movie, and then he's going to take the
fall. And then I'm not associated at
all and he's just going to be like, Oh my gosh, you're right.

(01:23:38):
And he's going to do command delete on Toy Story 4 dot MP4.
And then I just grow big and geta Taco.
And then Toy Story 4 is no more.Self fulfilling prophecy because
it's almost what happened Toy Story 2.
So true, so true. We've come full circle.
Toy Story narrative, You know, all right.

(01:24:00):
Last pick. You've one slot left.
We haven't really stepped on each other's toes a whole lot,
but we'll see. We'll see.
We'll see. I'm.
Going to go with. You're not going to like this
one. Hit me.
Oh gosh, hit me. It's.
Personal bias. Oh gosh.
A movie I don't like. Oh.

(01:24:21):
I'm so scared, I think I know what this is.
Do you want to take a guess? Is it La La Land?
It is La La land I'm deleting LaLa land.
That's a. Terrible decision.
That is a terrible decision. Why?
Why? Because if I delete it, then we
don't have to have this whole discourse about whether or not
it has a good ending or not. And then it's gone.

(01:24:43):
It does. No, but it does.
It subverts the conventions of the genre.
No, no, it's gone. How do I do it?
Oh gosh. Well, I'm thinking I cause a
massive wreck on the Los Angelesfreeway it.

(01:25:06):
Was so simple. It was so simple.
And I find, and I wait until thedirector of that movie is on the
freeway and I cause a massive wreck.
He's not involved. Nobody dies.
It's just like, I dropped like 30 cars on the Interstate and
it's just a mess. So then he's stuck in traffic

(01:25:28):
coming up with this idea of, oh,yeah, another day of sun.
I can, I can do this. Yeah.
And then as he's doing, I plant an IED under his car, but it
doesn't go off yet. And I walk up to him and I say,

(01:25:49):
hey, Mr. Mr. Mr. Chazelle, Mr. Mr. Mr. Damien Chazelle, Mr. Mr.
Damien Chazelle, listen, I got an IED under your car.

(01:26:24):
And if you don't give me a copy of La La Land, I'm going to set
it off. And it can either happen on this
Interstate, it can happen at thestudio, or it can happen at your
home. It's your choice.

(01:26:45):
We got a couple options here. Oh my God, call the police if
you want, I'll just dissipate. This foul.
Because I'm from the future. So you give me a copy of that
movie, you delete it and you pretend like this never happened
and you move on and make a different movie.
Oh. My God.
This movie was going to be a commercial flop anyway.
Everyone hated it. It was terrible.

(01:27:07):
Didn't win any Oscars. Hollywood hated it.
OK, And then I would add this tomy collection of movies that I
have that no one else does so that I can remember that they
exist and then gas like people into thinking that they exist
when they really don't. That's.
Do you know how well I can control the?

(01:27:29):
Lost. Media YouTube Sphere If I had a
bunch of movies that didn't exist and just talked about them
like lost media. That would be such a good idea.
I think you should do that. I'm just saying.
Man, man, that's brutal. 100% feel about my own bias but you

(01:27:54):
know. You know.
All right, got to get in there for comedy.
All right, all right, all right.So my last pick of the day is
one that might ruffle some feathers, but oh I'm so back and
forth. I have two.

(01:28:15):
Well, you only get one. I only get one.
I just got to decide like they're completely opposite.
I was like, should I get which direction should I go?
All right, all right, ready. I would like to delete the Zack
Snyder Justice League movie fromexistence.

(01:28:37):
Thank you. It was in my backup.
Good. So here's the thing, the Josh
Wheaton Justice League bad, verybad movie.
Honestly, if I could just do like a double kill, that would
be that would be ideal. So, so the problem with this

(01:28:59):
movie is we have this, it started this trend of like
justice for the director's creative vision thing where like
as an audience, we feel the needto defend every single
director's decision, even if it's like genuinely a terrible

(01:29:24):
one. We're just like feel the need
that they their creative vision is not being honored.
Now that is fair. That's true.
We just talked about the focus groups about how, you know,
there is a point where you have to just suck it up and say, hey,

(01:29:44):
maybe this isn't working like this.
You know, good directors are theones that take good creative
input and good ideas from other people.
Now, the Zack Snyder Justice League movie is so incredibly
pretentious and the only people that actually genuinely like it

(01:30:04):
are people that are only like itbecause it feels like a Justice
for Zack Snyder thing. As a story and as a movie it is
not good. It was marketed entirely as Zack
Snyder's Justice League. And it was released so that when
HBO Max like came out for the first time, it had a title to

(01:30:26):
bring people in to subscribe. That was the entire purpose of
this movie. There was no, there was no
actual thought about creative rights in this process.
And I've seen the Zack Snyder Justice League.
It is over three hours long. It's in 5-4 aspect ratio because
it can. The acting is still not great.

(01:30:47):
It is dark as heck. You can't see a single thing
going on. It's so long.
And it's the kind of movie whereZack Snyder knew that he would
not get a chance like this again.
And so he crammed every single idea he could into it.
And so DC fans are like, Oh my gosh, it's three hours.
I love 3 hours. It's Zack Snyder.

(01:31:08):
Hooray. And then it was like, maybe your
story would be better if you only kept the good ideas instead
of thought dumping your entire script because you feel like
it's your only chance now. The story of this movie is
actually quite sad. He had to leave because of a

(01:31:28):
family emergency, and then Josh Wheaton took over and ruined the
movie. That is very sad.
I'm not disagreeing with that, but I'm tired of people saying,
oh, the Zack Snyder Justice League.
And then he just did Rebel Moon and it got terrible reviews.
And he was like, well, that's because I couldn't do my own

(01:31:48):
director's cut of Rebel Moon. And I was like, at what point
are you just a bad director? If you need like, you can't ride
this wave of I'm I'm the victim.The studios are silencing me for
so long before we're just like, dude, this isn't working.

(01:32:09):
So Zack Snyder's also, there's no such thing as a director's
cut unless the director sits down in the chair and edits the
movie themselves. It's not how this.
Works and someone who edits. That's not how this works.
Right. That's not how this works.
And I'm tired of pretentious film Bros saying that Zack
Snyder's Justice League is greatbecause it's it's fine, but it's

(01:32:31):
not good. It's just pretentious.
It's in five four and because itcan.
Anyway, how would I do it? Listen, I'm going to be a little
sneaky on this one and I'm goingto I'm going to follow me on
this one. So Zack Snyder is making this
movie right before Joss Wheaton takes it over.

(01:32:54):
And I'm like, Zach, buddy, what are you doing?
Don't you want to make Rebel Moon instead?
And I would simply just show up.And he would say, who are you?
And I'd say that's not important.
I think you'd rather make Rebel Moon.
And he would say, how do you know about Rebel Moon?
I haven't even talked to anyone about Rebel Moon.
And then I say, Zach, Rebel Moonis the friends we made along the

(01:33:17):
way. Don't you want friends?
And then he's like, yeah, I mean, I guess I just didn't
really have a lot of friends growing up.
And I'm like, Zack, Zacky Poo. Don't worry about it.
Don't make the Justice League. It's not worth it.

(01:33:38):
DC. It's a crapshoot, all right?
They're about to make a Joker movie, and it's going to do
really good. And then the sequel is going to
flop. It's not important.
Follow your heart and follow your dreams.
And if you don't, I'm going to kill you.
Now that's in a, that's in a, that's in a scenario where he's

(01:33:59):
resisting. That's not, that's not, that's
not my choice. That's more of if necessary,
then he ditches the Justice League entirely.
Joss Whedon doesn't even have totake over.
We don't even have to watch the Joss Wheaton version of the
Justice League or the Zack Snyder version, right?

(01:34:20):
That is how I sneakily double kill both Justice League movies.
And then, yeah, DC goes bankruptand we never have to.
Never have to, you know, actually watch Lady Gaga sing in
Joker 2. Anyway, You know, that's my
plan. You're kind of real for that.
That's my plan. There we go.

(01:34:42):
Would you like to review your? Yes.
Review your draft. Actually, do you have extras
leftover? I have a couple.
I couldn't hit me. Hit me with some of your your
extras. OK, I got 4 extras.
The one I said that everyone pretends already doesn't exist

(01:35:03):
is the Eternals. Oh, I forgot about.
That I also have the original Super Mario Bros movie, The
original Haunted Mansion movie, and Avatar Fire and Ash.
Oh yeah, no, I was at another spawn kill.

(01:35:26):
Could have gotten another spawn kill on a James Cameron movie I
really thought about. Dang.
But. Dang, you know.
Decided against. It I had the Garfield movie from
this year. That movie was God awful.
I had Jurassic World Dominion, Ihad Turning Red I had, and then

(01:35:50):
the one that I almost did instead of Justice League was
The Lego Movie 2. What?
Listen, what do we need it? I don't think we need it.
No one talks about it. It just Tarn.
It just tarnishes the reputationof the first one because the
first one's so good. The first one's so good.

(01:36:11):
The second one isn't as good, solet's just not worry about it.
Let's just sweep it under the rug and just let the Lego Batman
Movie do its thing. No, no, I disagree.
All right, so review me. Your draft list, your top five,
All right. Movies I would delete.

(01:36:34):
Forever, forever. Star Wars, The rise of
Skywalker, The Little Mermaid 2 returned to the sea, Spider man,
Beyond the Spider verse, the live action Snow White and La La
Land. Wow interesting list. 22 spawn
camps and and La La land which is just wild.

(01:36:58):
All right movies I delete forever.
The 2019 Lion King. Indiana Jones in the Dial of
Destiny, Spider Man, No Way Home, Toy Story 4 and Zack
Snyder's Justice League. So we'll try to post these
somewhere and have you vote on where they go.
That'll go in probably like a YouTube community tab and then

(01:37:19):
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the best draft for movie. So unless you have anything else
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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Movies We'd DELETE FOREVER | TNP EP. 135