Movies We'd Preserve Forever | TNP EP. 147 - The Nerdiest Podcast

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So you know how when you like immigrate to the United States,
like you have to pass a test to become AUS citizen, We need to
do that Yes, that we need to do that, but with nerdy media.
So like are you saying passing Star Wars fan test?
So you're saying? Call yourself a Star Wars fan.
So are you saying like if if youhave like a bad Star Wars take

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you should get deported from the?
Phone just not allowed to call yourself a fan?

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Hello and welcome to the Nerdiest Podcast, a show where
nerds talk about nerdy things. As always, I'm one of your
hosts, Mr. Jackson Glass coming at you today with movies we
would preserve forever. We think this is going to be a
super interesting conversation because this is not just our
favorite movies or movies we want to see, you know, our
children watching, you know, we want to, you know, it's not that

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at all. It's what movies do we think we
should preserve for future generations forever and why?
So we're very excited to get into that.
But also we have some news aboutsome Star Wars drama that went
down recently with some higher ups.
We're also going to talk about the Shrek 5 trailer and my
musings watching Captain AmericaBrave New World.

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I'm joined today by my ride or die Mr. Nick Barrett, the host
with the most who is always sleep deprived.
Mr. Nick Barrett, how are you today?
Sleep deprived, as the title would suggest, I'm good.
It's been a OK, so it's been like a tiring week.
But at the same time, I couldn'ttell you why because I couldn't

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tell you what I did this week because the week just kind of
flew by. And I think it's because we've
been really busy at work. We've gotten a lot of new
clients and stuff. So getting all of that organized
has been a, has been a thing. But also, it's finally warm
outside, as you can see, we broke out the hat today because
I don't have to wear a beanie because my room is -10 Sorry, I

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heard a plane and I thought theywere, but I'd like crash into my
house, you know, given the. Which in 2025?
This year? I don't know, might not.
Have you seen the? Out of the realm of possibility.
Have you seen the the joke whereit's like 2024 and they're like,
why are we clapping for the plane landing it?
Planes land all the time. It's like 2025 and he's like, we
did. Thank God.

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You start clapping. That's not dark humor.
Sorry, but. It's been warm, which means it's
time for all the pollen to come out so seasonal allergies are
back in style. So back it's gonna be.
Great. So I've been dealing with that,
but other than that, what? Okay, what have I been doing
this week? Let's think.
Well, we filmed a short film last.

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Weekend. We did a short film last
weekend. Which was fun.
I got to drive up there. I am knee deep in my Epic the
Musical phase because I was like, it was like a 2 hour drive
to get to Jackson and I was likeOK, so let me like Epic the
Musical is about 2 1/2 hours. Kind of fits perfectly with my

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drive. So I was like, OK, I'll listen
to that on the way there and Hamilton on the way back because
I feel like that kind of stuff that I can, like, sing along to
helps me get through the drive alot, of course.
Or at least it feels faster, which it did because I like
blinked in the first hour of theride was over and I was like,
oh, we're already halfway here. So I listened to it all the way

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there. And then while we were filming,
I kept like humming and like, some of the songs were stuck in
my head. And on my way home, I was like,
went to press play on Hamilton. I was like, Nah, and I, I
listened to Epic on the way hometoo.
And now I've been listening to Epic all week and I have a

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playlist on Spotify that's called Epic Bangers, which is
all my favorite songs, which is slowly just turning into the
whole album. So at a certain point I have to
just switch over to the other album and skip the ones I don't
like. You're right.
So I've been doing that. Yeah.
No dude, my rap was toast in January.

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Like it was over in January and no, I'm like it's the whole
thing is going to be epic. The musical like it is what it
is. So what else have I done outside
of that? I watched some anime, but that's
normal. Worked on some videos.
That's normal. I've started going back to doing

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some like creative writing, which is fun.
I haven't gotten to do that in awhile.
So it's also helped me stay motivated to get YouTube scripts
done because I'm able to kind ofput like a tangible like, OK, if
I get far enough ahead and I getcaught up on this, I can then go
do the creative writing. So that's kind of been a fun,

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like, little thing I've gotten into.
But other than that, I, I don't know.
I can't think of anything. I'll let you talk more about the
short film because it's your short film, Yeah.
Dude, I mean, it came over last weekend and we we shot a short
film as a script. 3rd annual short film. 3rd annual short
film Baby. Me and Nick were acting in it

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together. So it was super, super fun to be
like on camera together. Honestly kind of weird because I
felt like like we've never been characters with each other,
right? Like it was like it was like
normal because we're always together and like recording
stuff and on camera, but like wewere like not ourselves.

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So like it was super different in that way.
So I'm very excited. That'll hopefully come out at
some point. I'm hoping to get at least a
little bit of a festival run outof it.
But update to follow on that so you guys can watch it and we get
excited about it. So other than that, I mean, this
week I built a new Lego set. If you're watching the video,
you can see my new Mario Yoshi set behind me.

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Very, very nice. And then tomorrow you said
Hamilton. I'm going to see Hamilton
tomorrow. And I'm very excited.
I'm very excited. And as of time of recording, by
the time you're listening to it,I've already seen it and I'll be
weeping because of how good it is.
So I'm very excited to get to dothat tomorrow.
I mean, we're working on a lot of we're working on a lot of
music. I'm trying to get some YouTube

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scripts out. I'm editing the short film and
the deadline for that is rapidlyapproaching.
So yeah, that's not about that. I feel like I was going to say
something else and I cannot. Oh, what?
I've been watching, dude. We're watching Severance weekly,
and I don't want to be dramatic.By the time of release, by the

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time of recording, by the time of release.
The newest episode is Season 2, episode 7.
I'm not going to spoil anything,don't worry.
There are no spoilers, but all Iwill say is that season 2
episode 7 of Severance might be the best episode of television
I've seen in my life. Like if we are talking like a

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singular episode. Like not in the context of a
whole show. Like not season, not series,
singular episode. It was one of the most well
edited pieces of art I've ever seen in my life.
Like it is brilliant. So if you're not watching
Severance, like now is the time to hop on because the second

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season has like 3 weeks left, hop on Severance now.
It is so worth it. I've also been, I've gotten
right back into Breath of the wild.
I'm in my Breath of the wild at night era, which I've been in
for a while, but I'm making goodprogress on that.
And it's just such a fun like sweet game.

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Like I think even more so than Tears of the Kingdom because it
has that nostalgia factor where it's like all the sounds and the
music and like like a lot of people play like Animal Crossing
or Minecraft, like, you know, Stardew Valley type like, but no
Breath of the Wild is my like chill game just because like I

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know how it works so well. I don't have to think about it.
And that's why it's such a decompressing activity for me.
So anyway, that's pretty much what I've been watching.
But also I'd like to do a few minutes on a movie that I went
and saw this week and that is Captain America, Brave New
World. Now, here's let me set the scene

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for you. It's a Monday night and I want
to see this movie, right? So I tell Amy I was like, OK, we
will. Do you want to see this movie
tonight? We have a gift card for the
local movie theater we got for Christmas.
Like we've been like slowly using it.
We're like, all right, it's a Monday night, which means it's
not discounted movie day. We're going to have to pay full
price. It's whatever.

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We'll just use our gift card. And I was like, oh, you can't
use your gift card online. So we had to, so we couldn't
reserve seats. So we had to go in and I was
like, hey, we're going to have to go in a little early.
Like it's whatever. Like if we have to sit in the
back or like a little further up, it's not the end of the
world. This isn't the movie.
I'm going to die on that hill. So we show up 30 minutes early

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to this movie. We show up at 6:30, Movies at 7.
Literally the only people there.Literally the only.
And I was like, sick, you know, we got here early.
Awesome. We sit down in the theater. 645,
no one else there. Sitting there.
All right, OK, 655 no one else there.

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And I was like, oh, this is a little weird. 7:00 one other
couple comes in and sits on the end of our same row, which I was
like, if the whole theatre is open, just sit in the middle
like a row behind us. But they apparently don't know
about the best seats for best audio most people.
Don't. So I guess that's just on me for
thinking that Marvel could stillsell out theatres on a Monday

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night. So I don't know, it was kind of
surreal to be like, oh, this Marvel movie is not not selling
tickets. Like it's like, oh, this used to
be such a cultural phenomenon and now I'm the only one in this
theater watching it. As far as the movie itself goes,

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it was fine. It's like superhero movie dot
MP4. It's it's like, you know, all of
the standard tropes, like it wants to be like Winter Soldier
so bad, but it just doesn't takethe time to get there.
And I think that like, my biggest problem is Sam Wilson as

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Captain America is not the choice I would have made.
I think Bucky is a much more compelling character to give the
shield to, but they're like decided they want him in the
Thunderbolts instead. And so it's just really like,
not the decision I would have made because I think the Falcon
is like a really awesome character and the Falcon and

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Captain America should be different characters.
And so like, by combining them, you tried to make like, the
sidekick the main character. So now we kind of have to like
make up all this back story to like put him in that main
character role, which he was never created to fit.
And so it's really hard because I think that like putting him in

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that role as Captain America without the Super soldier serum
kind of like kills the fun in a way, because that's why I love
Captain America so much. Was he was like rah rah USA, but
he was like the big strong guy who could like beat down all
these people. Like he was like he was a super

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soldier and he had such an in compelling character arc and so
much depth to him because of hispast.
Like he had that history of World War 2 and all this stuff
where like Sam Wilson, they tried to like give Sam Wilson
the same level of the and it just didn't really work.
And so he's kind of a much more one-dimensional character who

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doesn't have superpowers. And that's part of the story is,
oh, he doesn't have superpowers.He's trying to like, you know,
trying to deal with this. So they tried to do, they tried
to spin it as like a, oh, he's struggling that he doesn't have
super soldier serum. But but it didn't work.
It was very it was very just kind of thrown together.

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And so my question is like, OK, if he's just this guy that has a
cool suit and cool tech and coolweapons, what makes him
different than Iron Man? Like he's just a less compelling
patriotic Iron Man at that point.
He's like the the idea that that's Captain America is just

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fundamentally different than what we've been given the
character that we've known and loved.
And so I think a lot of people, which is no shade to Anthony
Mackie because he did very well in that movie.
Anthony Mackie did great and Harrison Ford did great.
Their performances were actuallyvery, very good in the movie.
I just don't think his characterwas handled very well and I

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don't necessarily think he was set up for success in this movie
just by the way that they handled the that transition of
power pros. It was very like patriotic like
it was all in DCI. Thought that worked really well.
Big vibes. But also there after watching

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the movie, I can tell you there is nothing new in the movie that
you don't see in the trailer. That's hard.
It's rough because their big reveal is Red Hulk at the end
and it's everything we saw on the trailer.
Yeah, and he's like very much a part of the marketing for this

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movie. Yes.
And so I was like, oh, so the final fight ended and then the
movie ended and I was like, I was literally left saying is
that's it Like that was it? Because there was no, they like
wanted it to be this huge shock factor like Red Hulk is here,
which it could have been, but I think they were just really,

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really scared that this movie wasn't going to do well.
And so they were like, we need to, we cannot risk anything.
We need to pull them in and knowthat it's connected to the Hulk
and it's going to be connected to this and it's going to be
that, which like I still don't fully understand those
connections. Like it was very muddy.
How that actually like wrapped all together.

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So essentially, if you like Captain America, like if you
like the vibes, like it's fine. It's better than what they've
been doing, but it's not even close to touching what we used
to do with Captain America movies.
And you could watch the trailer and know everything that happens

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in this movie, pretty much. Yet another argument that movie
trailers should be eliminated. Gosh, I don't think they need to
be eliminated. I think they need to be more
intentional because you need a trailer, but you don't.
I don't think you need more thana teaser.
If you can't reel me in with like a 32nd blip of the vibe,

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then I don't feel like your story is strong enough, like
you're doing something wrong, right?
I mean, not to like completely change subjects, but they
release like what I'll consider the final trailer for the
Minecraft movie because tickets went on sale and that's usually
the final trailer right at this point.
And I feel like the Minecraft movie is going to end up falling

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in a very similar category. I won't talk about it too much
because I know you're trying to stay away from spoilers.
I mean, you can, but there's like, I don't care.
There's stuff in it where I'm like, that would have been
really cool if you saved it for the actual movie instead of
showing. I saw the chicken jockey clip
like there's. That there's Electra.

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There's a couple other things and I'm like, you could like, I
don't know, you could have just could have saved it.
I'm OK. I'm like, I'm still jury's still
out on the Minecraft movie for me, right?
I'm like, I want it to be good. I really do.

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But at the same time I look at it and I'm like, I feel like
you're betraying every aspect ofmy childhood and every aspect of
what I grew up on this game. And it doesn't even look like
the Minecraft I grew up with. And it's this weird, like a live
action CGI hybrid. And it's like, that's not when
any of us grew up playing Minecraft.
No, like it was all about the Minecraft animations.

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So I don't know we're we'll get back around in the Minecraft
movie at some point. No, absolutely.
But for now, it's news time. News time.
Wiki. Wiki Wow News time.
News Time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hit me with the first. Hit me with the first point that
you were tasked with. Can you tell me what it is

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because I don't have the sheet open.
I know it was very professional.It was the Star Wars one.
Yeah, OK, so Star Wars fans got hit with a big old bait and
switch this week. And honestly, I think this is
probably what ruined my week wastweet went out like Monday.
That said, Kathleen Kennedy is set to retire by the end of

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2025, and Star Wars fans everywhere rejoice.
They're like, Oh my gosh, this is great.
Like episodes, end of Episode 6,like celebration, whatever.
And then there's some people whowere like, don't you understand?
Kathleen Kennedy is not the one who makes the decisions at
Lucasfilm. And I'm like, Fact Check.
That's literally what the president of the company does,

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is they make the decisions on what gets greenlit.
What doesn't. They get to say?
They get the like, you can say, oh, yeah, Jon Favreau and Dave
Filoni, like they have the say over The Mandalorian.
That's true, right? But if Kathleen Kennedy comes in
and says no, no, no, no, we needmore Grogu screen time so that
we can, you know, sell, sell more plush toys, right?
They have to do it. She's their boss.

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So she's had like, her fingers in a lot of different Star Wars
projects and a lot of different projects in general.
So anyway, she said that on Monday and then it came out
yesterday. And this is like the bait and
switch is she said she's not retiring actually.

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She's producing several upcomingStar Wars projects.
And she said I will never retirefrom movies.
I Will Die Making Movies actually has started talking
with Disney about a succession plan, and it could be a year
before a decision is announced. We'll stay at Lucasfilm to
assist whoever takes over. And it's that last line that's
like, So what you're telling me is you're going to find a

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successor who essentially turns into like, a little puppet, and
you're just going to pull an Emperor Palpatine and start
manipulating that person to do all the same things you did?
But then it's not technically your fault because it's this
other person's fault. And it's like, or maybe
Lucasfilm just needs to go in a completely different direction
because what they're doing with Star Wars isn't working.

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Nope, Nope. And they?
Need to pivot. Come on, guys.
So yeah, she pulled a nice little 1/2. 1-2 brunch because
we were like, Oh my gosh, Star Wars is back.
And then it was like, oh also like, how did that happen?
Did she say something wrong and like it was like oh I'm I'm

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switching roles and then someoneon the Internet took that and
translated it wrong or what? What?
Happened, I'd like to think based on my infinite knowledge
of Kathleen Kennedy, which is ofcourse that she said she was
going to retire and like meant that genuinely like, oh, I've
like I've spent my life like last however many years of my

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life doing like last 40 something years.
You know that, Lucas, it's been great.
And then she saw the fan reaction on the Internet where
everyone's like, yeah, she's gone.
And was like, you know what, Actually, hold on, I'm not done.
I'm still going to make movies, and I'm going to do this just to
spite you. So.

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That is so real. And it's like, I don't know.
I can't, I can't attribute everything to Kathleen Kennedy.
Like, it's not entirely her fault.
She's made a lot of bad decisions, but it's also not
entirely her fault. Right.
But on the other hand, like, I don't know, fresh leadership

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never hurt anybody. I think the Disney company as a
whole could use some fresh leadership across the board.
I don't think I could name like one good Disney executive who's
made a good decision in the lastyear.
Right. Because like you're.
Kind of like. Bob Iger's on everybody's crap
list. Bob Capeg doesn't work there

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anymore. Josh Demaro's on the crap list.
Kathleen Kennedy's on the crap list.
Kevin Feige's on the crap list because he's not doing anything
good with Marvel. So it's like.
Yeah. It's like if you make one or two
bad movies, it's like, OK, the wrong director, the wrong
executive, something like some old white dude in a boardroom

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said no, it needs more of this, and he was completely wrong at
it. Like, sure, that happens, that
that's fair. Yeah.
But the consistency, the consistency.
To be bad. The terrible messaging and just
terrible quality. It is not a lower level problem

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at that point. Like, that's not how this works.
I'm curious to see how their movies move on going forward,
'cause she said, she said that Taika Waititi's Star Wars film
was looking for a new writer, which like, come on.
I feel like every single Star Wars project we've talked about
for the last year is like, yeah,we're doing this.

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Never mind, that didn't work. We're looking for a new writer.
We're looking for a new director.
We're cancelling this. And it was like, what's the
plan? Like what?
What's the plan? I know we talked about this last
year with like when we did our big like Star Wars retrospective
and it just feels really weird that it's been six years in

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December since they've gotten like a Star Wars movie, right?
2 theaters. And yes, I know they're re
releasing Revenge of the Sith inApril.
That doesn't count. I saw.
The as excited as I am for that and I will be there day one
because they're doing like 3D four DX IMAX normal.

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I'm like all right, lock in. We go into all of them, every
single one that doesn't count because that's an old movie that
was already made. They have not put a single new
Star Wars movie in theaters in almost six years.
That's crazy. Yeah.
Because the previous gap was what, 10 years?
Because it was 2005 to 2015. So I mean.

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But that was like. They're more than a.
Little more obvious like that one was a little more obvious
it's. Like, oh, like it wasn't like
you're actively trying to continue this movie French
because they had like The Clone Wars going, but that was it.
So to now be at a point where it's been 6 years almost since
you've put out a theatrical StarWars movie after putting out

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five theatrical Star Wars movies.
What happened? And every time you hear about a
project, you know, Rian Johnson lost his trilogy.
Taika Waititi has a trilogy but can't keep a writer.
The Ray movie has had like 3 different writers and directors
in the last year. Rogue's Squadron got completely
cancelled and is gone. Lando Calrissian got turned into

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a show. The only thing they've been able
to consistently do is the shows,and the shows even then have had
like kind of back and forth on the quality.
Like, I don't think Andor was very good, but the common
consensus is that Andor was really good.
You watched it, right? I got 3 episodes in and was

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bored out of my mind and when OKI was talking to one of my Co
workers about it this week and he was like hey it gets really
good at like episode 10 and I was like I shouldn't have to get
10 episodes into a show for you to tell me it gets.
Good. How many episodes are there?
12 I'm like, you're telling me Ineed to slog through 9 episodes
before it actually gets good, no.

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OK, there's a difference. Because like if you look at
Severance, which everything's going back to Severance because
I'm obsessed, it takes a long time to get there.
Like it's like episode 5 or so and the episodes are like almost
an hour long. It's episode 5 before you have
even an inkling of what is happening, but from the 1st 10

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minutes you're gripped and you're like, oh, this is
phenomenal. Like I like, I want to see where
this is going, but like there's a difference between that and
I'm three episodes in and we have not established anything.
Like, what are we doing here? So I don't know.
The indoor Season 2 trailer cameout and there was a lot of

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controversy over that too. So I'm kind of just connected
from that. A lot of people said it looked
really bad and that the story wasn't going in the right
direction, so. I don't know.
I don't know. I'm not.
This is. The thing that sucks, I mean A
Star Wars fan, is there's nothing interesting for me to be
excited for except the re release of a 20 year old movie.

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I feel like Andor has its own separate fan base at this point.
Like there's Star Wars fans and then there's Andor fans.
Like I don't get it. See, but the Andor fans will say
it's the other way around. They'll say there's Star Wars
fans and then there's just like tourists who are like, well, if
you don't like Andor, you're nota real Star Wars fan.
I'm like, well. It's like OK.
If we go back to what like classic Star Wars is, it's about

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the space Wizards and the lightsabers.
So am IA bad person for just wanting more space Wizards and
lightsabers like? Like, come on.
I don't know man. Does everything have to be about
fascism? Come on.
Do you this is kind of, this is on topic and I won't stay on it
too long because we need to moveon.
Right. But it drives me insane to no

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end when I see like Star Wars fans, right?
I put fans on air quotes. You have to like something to be
a fan, yeah. No, I think we need to go back
to gatekeeping, like the nerd space.
I think opening like everyone OK, nerds got bullied in high
school, right? Like when they were in school,

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like way back in the day, even before we were like born, right?
They got bullied for being into their little nerdy interest,
like Star Wars and Marvel and the whole shebang.
And then eventually society said, OK, wait, these nerds are
kind of cool. They're kind of chill.
Like their interests aren't thatbad.
So then the nerds said, you knowwhat, you guys come in, let's
enjoy. Like anyone can get into what

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up? False, false, false.
There should be an IQ test to get into anything.
I'm really sick and tired of people who don't understand the,
the the content coming in and calling me a bad fan because
they're like, well, you don't understand the seven layers of
political discourse and how thisactually relates to this level
of politics. Like, shut up, dude.

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It's a movie about space Wizardsfighting a war.
It's literally not that deep. Yeah, I'm because every time,
every dude, dude, I've had to get off Twitter and this has not
been a good week. For and, and there's something
to say for just like expanding on that point.
It's like, even if it is that deep, don't be a butt hole about
it. Yeah, like, like, because there

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is a lot of deep political commentary, especially in the
prequel trilogy. That's all very good, super
good, right? But don't talk to me like I'm
stupid if that's not why I like Star Wars.
Right. Or if like, I don't want to make
the connection that the current sitting president of the United
States is Emperor Palpatine. I'm not a fascist, OK?

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I'm just trying to enjoy Star Wars.
You get like movies are up for interpretation.
Holier than thou, like it's not and.
It frustrates me because these are all people who like, came in
with the Disney Plus shows and I'm like, good for you that you
were able to get into it, but like, don't stand up there and
lecture me when I've been here since I was like, live, OK,
Don't cite the text. To me, which I was there when

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they were written. Exactly.
Literally bring back gatekeepingmedia.
That's the end of the story. It's just.
When you start. Gating Next Next episode is top
10 medias we wish we could gatekeep.
Top ten Gatekeep. Yeah, let's go back 10 movies we
should gatekeep. There needs to be like, so you
know how when you like immigrateto the United States, like you

(29:55):
have to pass a test to become AUS citizen?
We need to do that yes that we need to do that, but with nerdy
media. So are you saying passing Star
Wars fan test? So you're saying?
Call yourself a Star Wars. Fan so are you saying like if if
you have like a bad Star Wars take you should get deported

(30:17):
from? No, it's not allowed to call
yourself a fan. You can watch Star Wars.
I'm not stopping you. You're just gonna call yourself
a fan? It would really filter out the
tourist man. When did fans become haters?
Like I feel like, I feel like weused to like actually like
things. And there's something to say for
like, things used to be higher quality, but also like Star Wars

(30:39):
fans hate Star Wars like. Actually, that is true.
No one hates Star Wars more thanStar Wars fans.
That's so true, like what happened now to be fair, hate
the stuff that's worth hating, like hates rides of Skywalker
because that's Garbo. But like don't hate each other.
Like we're supposed to be in this together.

(31:00):
We were like the second. The second we split up, Kathleen
Kennedy came back like it was. Yeah, guys, stupid.
The second we stopped fighting the corporation, Guys, if you
learn anything from Star Wars isthat you should always be
fighting the corporation. That's so quit.
Quit playing semantics with Lucasfilm.
Literally. 'Cause they put out a decent
Andor trailer. Come on guys.

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Please. All right, final, final news bit
that we'll just touch on for a second is the new teaser trailer
for Shrek 5 came out and it breda little controversy because the
animation style was different. And I don't think that different
is necessarily the issue. I think that a lot of people
were upset on how the way it looked and how it looked very

(31:43):
generic and it looked very like it was kind of Mario movie esque
type, like super rounded clean like.
So I don't know. It's only a teaser.
They added Zendaya to the cast as his daughter and she's the
only kid we see in the trailer, which is interesting because

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Shrek has three kids. Shrek has three children.
Like, are we just kicking that out of the cannon?
Yes and so a lot of people are kind of upset because we've like
waited for this movie forever and then it looks like this and
everyone's like how do we ugly Sonic Shrek 5 Like we have to
get them to fix it. And I'm kind of like OK, pause.

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Because here's the thing. Shrek 1A classic, Shrek 2A
perfect film, Shrek 3 and Shrek 4 awful.
No one talks about them because they're so bad.
And so like, everyone's like Shrek 3 and Shrek 4 awful.
They're terrible. And then the studio says, OK,

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we're doing Shrek 5, we're goingto make it a little different.
We're going to update it a bit. Like, what does it look like the
other movies? It was like you hated the other
movies. You hated the other movies.
What are you talking about? So I don't know.
I understand why they have to update it because if it looks
like the first, like if you watch the first Shrek movie,

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you're like, it's, it's indicative of the time, if that
makes sense. It doesn't look bad.
It just looks like, what was it,2000?
I don't want to say 2005. I don't think.
I think that's a little too early.
Hold on. Hold on 2001.

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Holy crap. Dude Shrek looks good 911
that's. Crazy.
It looks good for 2001. So like, if it looks like that,
we'd have complaints. And I think that I think that
people are mad because Shrek is such a different film, It's such
a different franchise that like really goes against the grain of

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what every other animated movie was doing at the time.
That's why it was so revolutionary.
So to take that style that everyother animated movie is doing
and to throw it on Trek feels very disingenuous.
So I understand that. And I'm kind of like, you know,
like I don't love the modern, like super sleek, perfectly lit

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animation style. But also like we're going to get
into another Minecraft movie situation where we're like,
we've see like 5 seconds of a movie and we're like, it's
already garbage. We're already cooked, guys.
It's over. And then a real trailer comes
out and we're like, oh, this actually looks kind of fire.
Oops. And so it's, I'm like, guys,

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yeah, the animation isn't my favorite either.
But like, give them a minute. Like give them like 5 seconds to
to figure it out and just give us a little more before we're
like, I'm not seeing this. It looks like garbage.
And it's like, OK, we'll give ita minute.
OK, Just it'll get there. Because also think about this.

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In 2001, Shrek was a super edgy animated movie.
I feel like animated movies. Like this weekend we watched
Transformers 1. That movie was edgy.
The movie was. I don't.
Know that you'd watch Peak. Bro it's so good but the movie
is very edgy. Like I'm curious to see how
Shrek 5 pushes the boundary again because the boundary has

(35:23):
been pushed a lot further since their last movie if that makes
sense. So like animated movies like
Puss in Boots, The Last Wish andTransformers 1 and like Spider
Verse, like there's they're pretty commonly swearing like
nothing crazy, but like they're swearing and they're doing more
violence and they're doing stuff.
So like what is Shrek 5's place in that animated world where

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it's like, are we going to push the boundary or are we going to
be too scared and still do our 2001 version of pushing the
boundary? So fingers crossed.
I think it's going to be good. Give them a minute guys.
End of speech. Yeah, I don't really have a
stake in the game because I've only seen the first Shrek and
even then I watched it like a while ago, which maybe we'll

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revisit all of Shrek before thatmovie comes out.
By the way, they dropped the teaser now and the movie doesn't
come out until like next Christmas, like 2026 Christmas
which is a really like far in advance time to drop.
You know this movie trailer? The most obnoxious marketing

(36:30):
campaign in history. I also saw a really interesting
theory on Twitter that they dropped the trailer now or like
the teaser now so they can gaugefan reaction to the new
animation style and go from there and see like if you don't
really viscerally hate it, we'llchange it because we practically

(36:52):
have two years to do it unless they're just trying to put
their. Foot in high or?
I don't know, it just feels weird, like I can't think of
another movie that would have dropped any kind of teaser this
early. That does feel really early.
I mean, you could be they could be giving room to correct, but
the the Sonic thing was such a such a different occurrence

(37:15):
because it was just, oh, we haveto change the character model
like that's fine. Are they gonna reanimate the
whole movie because people don'tlike it?
Hear me out. This is my theory on the Shrek 5
trailer. It's all a.
It's all a PR stunt. It's all A.
Marketing. Scam it's what they did is they

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said okay, see that thing they did with Sonic.
What we're going to do is we're going to animate like a section
of the movie, make it look intentionally bad and then
people are going to say it looksbad.
And then we're going to go to Step 2, and Step 2 is we wait
like six months to a year, do itagain, post it and say, hey
guys, we heard your complaints. We fixed it, and now it looks

(37:56):
more like the classic Shrek you grew up with.
And then we hit the movie in December.
But they never actually changed anything because it was all the
same from the beginning. And they're just trying to
generate Internet buzz. That's my theory and I'm
sticking to it. I think that's a valid.
Theory so. I don't know if we'll ever know.

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It depends. If they change it, I think
you're right. But if they don't, I think
they're just going to do it withtheir full chest and say this is
what we're doing. Yeah, I don't.
I don't know. I don't know, man.
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far. We have both compiled a list of
movies we'd like to preserve forever.
Now we need to we're we're goingto say what movies we're going

(39:01):
to preserve and then we're goingto kind of give a little reason
why, like what what what about this movie does future
generations need from this film?I have about 10.
Nick has about 12. I'm kind of rethinking one of
oh, I have 14. Oh my God, I had.
Two more I. Kind of.
I downsized mine a little bit. Let.

(39:23):
Me clarify my list is more I feel like my list is going to be
a little more Mimi than yours. There's one on here that I added
it and I was like, I have a good, I have a justification for
this one. I have I have two or three Mimi
ones on here. Oh I have like 5.
Is there? I'm looking at my DVD shelf.

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I will also say I think it's interesting that you took the
preserve for future generations.Like that kind of thing.
I went more like if an alien invasion happened and wiped out
civilization, what movies shouldthe aliens have it?
Was like if the the only contactto the human waste was a movie,

(40:07):
What movie are you choosing? Yes, so that is how I built my
list. Good word, good word.
And if you like this episode, let us know.
We love doing episodes like this.
He's more generalists, but if you like this one specifically,
we'd love to do a sequel for it in the future.
But we won't know if you like itif you don't tell us so.
Let us know preserve for it video games.

(40:27):
Preserve forever. So good.
OK, All right. Hit me with it.
Hit me with one. Hit you with one.
OK, hit me with. Two hit me with two.
Two OK, so when thinking about this list, I was trying to think
about like quintessential like if the aliens could only watch

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14 movies, what would they watch?
Well, something that the aliens might not know about, and I'm
really going to hammer this withevery different video on my list
is I think every something like every movie in this list teaches
them a different aspect of humanculture and human relationship.
So starting it off is a movie that I think will teach them
about the true like whatever, like what a good healthy romance

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looks like and that. Is the Princess.
Bride. Because, oh, The Princess Bride
it. Shows them like, hey, this is
what like a good wholesome, healthy relationship looks like
a lot of action adventure, like almost swashbuckling in a way as
you like get from the beginning to the middle and overall just a
really good movie. And like, show them the power of

(41:33):
storytelling and how, like, you can take a book and kind of turn
it into this amazing movie that you can watch for generations to
come. So that's The Princess Bride.
I like that. I like that.
I think, I think The Princess Bride is one of those
quintessential movies that you could put on at any movie night,
no matter the group of people, and it'll be enjoyed.

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Yes. It's a universally lovable.
Movie follow up question, How did you did you?
So for example, if I was going to put Harry Potter on here,
would you consider that one movie, or seven individual
entries, or 8 entries? I have, I have a few of these

(42:15):
that I added one of them that I'm kind of like using as like a
stand in for a franchise, if that makes sense.
OK, I have a few that I'm like Iwant you to see all of them but
this is the one I would. Add.
OK. So, yeah, keeping in that going
from, like the beauty of, you know, human relations and, you

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know, romantic and emotional things is something that the
aliens may be very familiar withsince they wiped out
civilization is aliens coming todestroy the planet.
And that is going to be the first Transformers movie by
Michael Bay, because it can kindof show them that we thought

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this was going to happen, but weweren't prepared for it.
That's such a good word. So, so good.
It'll show them like, hey, at least if you're going to do this
again, trying to be more like the Autobots where you're trying
to man and you work with the people and maybe consider
turning into cars if you have that ability, like turning into

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like cars, giant robots, like something that's a little more
familiar and not these like green little goobidy dudes,
right? So just a thought.
But also shows them the importance of low quality good
filmmaker. That's true.
That's so true. Where it doesn't necessarily.

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This is such a. Perfect be a really like good
movie to be enjoyable because itreally just boils down to the
over sexualization of women, explosions and robots killing
each other. And if you put those three
things together, you have a patented design for success at
least once if you want to make amovie franchise.

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So those are my first two The Princess Bride to teach the
aliens about romance and then Transformers to show the aliens
the correct way to take over a planet and destroy it.
OK, OK, great start. Great start.
OK, ready. This is if I'm leaning in like
the alien category. Here's what I'm thinking these I

(44:34):
added two while you were talkingbecause I thought of more.
So if I'm thinking like aliens coming to Earth and they wipe us
out and they only get one movie to watch, my first pick is going
to be Jurassic Park. Because, and here's my
reasoning, I'm hoping that they'll think it's a

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documentary. And I really, really would love,
I would love if like they were like, oh, wow, we came to this
planet and we got all these humans and it's like, oh, oh,
what's this? Oh, it's Jurassic Park.
Wow, dinosaurs are out there, bro.

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We got to get out of here. My little animation thing just
turned out on my computer. We they're like, oh, the
dinosaurs are out here somewhere.
We got a, we got a, we got a jet.
We got to get out of here. So that's my thought.
But they could also learn, they could also learn how to grow up

(45:39):
there, how to, how to teach their children through Jurassic
Park. Because the whole point of
Jurassic Park is him like it's the dinosaurs, but it's also him
kind of like overcoming like hisbarriers with like not knowing
how to work with kids. And he's kind of like, oh, this
is weird. Like he can't, you know, his his
emotional relationships are kindof severed because of this.
So I feel like this is kind of adouble whammy of like, maybe

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they'll run away thinking there's dinosaurs, or maybe we
can distract them in that way toovercome.
Or maybe they could just repopulate with their with the
parenting advice they learned from Jurassic Park.
That's yeah. I thought that one through I.
Really did. Yeah.
No, that's good. That's good.
I like that. Yeah.
The duck and everything really took me up.

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That's funny just to play Jurassic Park on National
Geographic. Yeah, you're like.
Are you gonna do another one or do you want me to?
Go go ahead cuz I think I still think you had one more than me.
OK, so after this I will have 11left.

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Yeah, I OK, I don't know, I kindof like doing them in a double
pack because you can we can do 2two different aspects we can do
2. So this one.
So you want me to do another one?
Yeah, go ahead, do another one. OK, another one in a similar
format. Similar format is I would give
them the B movie because I wouldalso want them to think it was a

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documentary and that's how like BS actually work and that they
would think that humans could have romantic relationships with
bees. And then maybe because if they
wipe us out, you know, we've humans have been all like save
the bees for so long. Maybe the narrative is we
prioritized the bees over ourselves.

(47:32):
You know, can we consider that maybe we should save the humans
before we save the bees? Food for thought.
So in this scenario, we're wipedout, right?
Bees are there. Bees are still there, but they
can only watch the bee movie. Aliens are like, huh, These bees
are like, they have souls, they're real people, They have

(47:53):
jobs, they're working. And then they try to romance the
bees, right? And that's how we take the
planet back. It's aliens trying to romance
the bees because they're too shit.
So I never thought that a beastiality pun would make it on

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this show. Here we are. 47 episodes in, you
got to do something. You got to keep it fresh.
You got to keep it fresh. So we're we're trying to, you
know, this is our plan to take back the Earth is the is.
But also, perhaps the aliens find too much value in their
work. You know, maybe the aliens need
a little me time. Maybe these aliens could watch

(48:36):
the Bee Movie and understand there's more to life than just
having a job. Maybe maybe they've taken over
so many planets and they're kindof burned out.
Honestly, maybe these aliens arekind of like, whoa, you're kind
of right, Jerry Seinfeld. Maybe I don't need to be so
workaholic, bees. And that's why aliens can watch.

(48:59):
Ah, got em. From Jurassic Park movie Dude
this. Is a great.
List. I'm loving where this is going.
This is a great list. So on the topic of like things
that should not be sentient and have souls, right, right.
Let's also kind of scare that like we OK, we can take a double

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pronged approach here. We'll show them that the bees
are terrifying because you can romance them and more likely
they'll try to romance you. And then we'll also teach them
because in the in the rubble andin the aftermath of like, all
the humans are dead, right? What's left behind but our
physical possessions. OK, so we will teach them that

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our physical possessions are alive.
And I will leave them with the original Toy Story movie because
it not only shows them that humans were capable of making
things beyond man made horrors beyond a comprehension, right
with Sid, but it will also teachthem that they are not really

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aliens. They are toys, much like Buzz
Lightyear. And that'll kind of give them
like an existential crisis of well, wait a minute, are we not
aliens? Are we are we just are we just
being played? Are we just being played with
like toys by by a the higher power?

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But that'll also like they'll cause them to freak out, but
then they'll think like our toysare alive and we'll kill them.
And the only reason they haven't, And all it takes, all
it takes is for one like matchbox car to like trip an
alien and they die and that's it.

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And they're like, Oh my gosh, these humans, they left these
toys behind so that they could kill us, and then they'll leave.
Oh my. Gosh, now kind of in a similar
vein is, you know what else we'll have left behind a lot of?
What? Not just toys, but cars, and

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this goes back kind of like to. Transformers but.
If we can teach them that the cars are sentient, this one's
kind of a double whammy because especially if they invade in
America, this will freak them out.
Because I'm going to leave them with cars 2 specifically for a
couple different reasons. One, because it teaches them
that the cars were sentient at some point and all that takes is

(51:34):
one Tesla to be left on that drives by itself without a
pilot. Or without a driver.
So true. Then they'll think the cars are
sentient. It is over.
Next, it shows them that our cars have guns, which would
imply the existence of tanks, which means the tanks won't
freak them out as much and they'll probably be scared of
them. 3rd, it will teach them about international things

(51:57):
because you go to like Japan andItaly and England and that's it.
And the United States and those are really only the only places
you need to go. Everywhere else you can kind of
just leave alone because if it'snot important enough to be in a
cars movie, it doesn't matter. So that's my thought is like,
you can kind of give them like international geopolitics

(52:17):
through this racing movie, but also show them that like, don't
mess with the cars because they have guns and they'll kill you.
Oh, of course, that is big brain.
I like that thought. I also love that you were like
20 minutes ago where like Star Wars is just about war.
It's not that deep. And then you were like, I'm
going to give them cars too because of the national
geopolitics. If nothing sums up this entire

(52:43):
show more than that, if someone has something that sums it up
more, I'd be happy to hear it. But you know, I don't think
there is all right ready ready to this is this is one of my
last sentient being movies. And I think it's a movie that we

(53:06):
would have to give them to make them understand our humor in a
way that just no other movie fully encapsulates by itself.
And I think that a movie like this would would make them go.
I didn't realize, I didn't realize humans were like that.

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I didn't realize this was possible.
That's a movie that I hope neverdies ever.
And that is the Mike Myers Cat in the Hat movie.
Now. Now consider this.
Imagine your only your only conception of the human race is

(53:49):
Cat in the Hat. Mull that over.
Think about what you know about the Cat in the Hat movie.
Think about the clips, the memes, the videos.
You know, Alec Baldwin falling into into an infinite pit of
purple goo. OK, Can you imagine how
terrifying the human race would seem if that was your only

(54:13):
experience with it? Because the cat is scary enough.
All right? The cat is scary.
And you could be like, you couldgo on the route of like, oh, you
don't, you know, you want them to be afraid of cats, right?
In this scenario, the cats are gone to all right, Like cats
ain't surviving that. So they're kind of like, oh,

(54:33):
what's this creature? It's a giant, like hairy thing.
And they're going to think that's just what humans looked
like. They're going to think some
humans just looks like the cat in the hat.
And honestly, they're not that far off.
Have you ever been to Walmart? Anyway, that happens.
So I think that that movie wouldjust give them a real
understanding of our sense of humor in that way.

(54:57):
Now here's another one. My thought process behind this
one was a little bit more like Iwill use this movie to explain
things to my great, great grandchildren in.
So follow me, if you will, the Steve Martin, John Candy,
classic planes, trains and automobiles.

(55:17):
Now here's my thoughts. I think by this time in the
future, like interstellar style,I think we're going to be able
to teleport wherever we want. Now how am I going to be the
crotch of the old back in my daygrandpa if I don't have a way to
show them what transportation used to look?

(55:39):
Like this is true. If I don't have a way to show
them how it used to be so hard to fly and so hard, like took so
long to drive and there was trains.
Nothing encapsulates the spirit of travel and how frustrating
travel is, but how it's more about the friends we made along
the way then planes, trains and automobiles.

(56:02):
Thank you very much. I dig that.
I dig that. Because they're just going to be
teleporting. Kids these days are just going
to be teleporting everywhere. And then they're going to be
complaining about it. Like, and I mean back in my day.
The aliens probably teleported here like so.
How will they know about our master?
That's what I'm saying of trains.
Exactly. So how will they know about the

(56:22):
Disney Monorail? That's so real.
The saddest thing about extraterrestrial life is they
don't know the Disney monorail exist.
They don't know Disney. Oh my gosh.
Better off for it at this point.You know, but the monorail.
OK, so we've had a little meme, right?
Little meme, little little meme.All right, hit me with a series

(56:44):
pick. Series pick that I think might
like genuinely be, and this is kind of a cheat.
It's 2, but it's actually 6. And that is going to be the
entirety of Star Wars from 1:00 to 6:00 because it is one of the
greatest, like most congruent stories ever told.
We could convince the aliens that at some point maybe this is

(57:08):
like what we thought their liveswere like.
Like we were trying to connect with them through Star Wars, and
we came up with Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Preventer
of the Sith, A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the
Jedi. Greatest I'm done, but 7 through
9 don't exist. They don't show.

(57:30):
No, they don't. We didn't preserve.
So when the like whole planet got scorched and everything got
burned up, not a single copy of those movies is left.
Which is proof of God's sovereignty, yes.
Amen to that man. He got rid of it.
He said no more. He said I will cleanse your
sins. So yeah, I don't know, I think

(57:51):
Star Wars is a really good pick because it is one of those like
foundational nerd pillars. And I think even just outside of
the nerd space, like culturally speaking, Star Wars is a really
big, it's important. It's a very important like
cultural touchstone for the last40 or so years now, however,
maybe in the future when the aliens get here.

(58:12):
So that's mine. I'm doing like 2IN1 because I
had Empire Strikes Back and Revenge of the Sith on here.
One from each of those. I will say, like I added, I have
Return of the Jedi on my list right now.
I specifically chose Return of the Jedi because I think that
Return of the Jedi now by itselfis different.

(58:32):
Like, so think about the Return of the Jedi in the full context
of Star Wars in the trilogy, butalso in the six movies is it's
one of the cleanest, clearest, deepest and most emotional
redemption arcs we've seen in media.
And I think that long term, evenlike even for aliens, like

(58:55):
aliens could be redeemed. Who's to say?
But also like long term, like when when my grandchildren ask
what movies they should watch, I'm going to be like, well, this
is a really great. There's so many great lessons to
be taken from Star Wars. And I think that's part of what
makes it so timeless is how it just holds up from a moral

(59:18):
standpoint of like the battle ofgood and evil.
And there's so much there's like, I was contingency, but
then, like, the redemption of both characters and like, being
called to the dark side, but like, fighting it.
So like, I chose this in jest tobe like, like you said, like
it's one of the most, like, foundational nerd stories of all

(59:38):
time. Like, of course, I'm gonna throw
it on here. But it's also like, I think that
there is a lot to learn from Star Wars, from film makers and
also from viewers morally and technically and all the stuff
that like I don't want to lose in our modern art.
I would really like like we can talk about how great Star Wars
is, but like at the end of the day, there is so much great

(59:58):
stuff in there that we we need to preserve and keep, keep alive
in our media. So that's one of mine is Return
of the Jedi. Also a movie that I hope never
dies because I think that it is a.
I think it's a pillar of Disney animation and that's Robin Hood.

(01:00:24):
So let me look at the year of this movie because I forgot
1973. So 1973 Robin Hood animated, it
is like the pinnacle of like classic 2D Disney animation.
Like it is chef's kiss, the music, the characters.
And I think, and I just watched a YouTube essay about this and
it was a very interesting perspective on Robin Hood that I

(01:00:47):
never fully connected was Robin Hood is one of the like
strongest male leaders in a Disney film because he is the
swashbuckling adventurer. He's the, you know, he, he wins
the bow and arrow contest and he's like super fun.

(01:01:07):
But then if you if you really, really watch the movie, he is a
gentle, caring, loving, almost aShakespearean character that
like, you know, when he's with the kids, he's super fun and
goofy and like making sure they're, you know, they're OK
and having fun and like he's in disguises and stuff.

(01:01:29):
But then like when they're not looking, he's giving the mom
money and he's very adult. He's very serious.
He's very like that. But then like when he's talking
to maid marry and he's like thislike prophetic, like love lover,
like she very Shakespearean. And so I think that like, that
type of character is so long andthat type of like he like

(01:01:49):
there's the moral question of like stealing.
Like, is stealing OK if it's forgood?
But it's also kind of like he isthe gentle hero that we never
get to see anymore. So that being said, I would love
for that movie to never die and just be there forever.
That's surreal. I never heard about that movie

(01:02:11):
talked about that way. That's a very interesting.
Perspective. Very good perspective.
You should send me that video, Isay, because now I kind of want
to watch. It I will.
All right, how many do I have onmy list, 2468.
I can combine a couple of these when we're talking about like

(01:02:32):
tentpole nerd things. I'm going to combine 3 into 1.
No, I'm going to combine 2 into 1.
Because they kind of go togetheranyway.
And that is going to teach aliens what happens when aliens
come to Earth. Except for the fact that they've
already scorched us and killed us, so it doesn't really matter.

(01:02:53):
But kind of like Transformers, it's like, hey, if you ever try
this again and we're ready, thisis what would happen.
And it's going to be a double pack of Avengers Infinity War
and Avengers End game. Now, they're not going to have
any other Marvel movies for context.
So it is literally just these two movies.

(01:03:15):
I'm not like using this as a placeholder for the entire
Fragile. No, just these two.
And they're going to have to putthe pieces together and figure
out what happened the rest of the way.
Because they killed all of us. So we don't really like, we
can't explain to them, but it shows them the hey, if you come
to our planet, we will fly back with you to your home planet,

(01:03:36):
hunt you down, punch you in the face because you killed our
wife, girlfriend who's also an alien.
I don't even know who you are. And then you're going to
eviscerate us, which is probablywhat happened.
So then once they get through that, I'll say, OK guys, you
know what, You've earned it. At least one other Marvel movie,

(01:03:58):
and that is going to be none other than Guardians of the
Galaxy, because it is going to show them some of the best human
music, some of the best human filmmaking.
That's a good word. And some of the best Marvel and

(01:04:18):
they'll understand the hype behind like between Infinity War
end game and Guardians of the Galaxy, they'll understand the
hype behind Marvel. They'll be like, oh, I get it.
I understand why these humans were into this like comic book
Marvel stuff and they'll get it so and plus Guardians like a
little on their home turf because it's got a lot of aliens
in it. So maybe there's a giant
floating head out there They. They're like, oh, they're.

(01:04:41):
Like, oh guys. Talk about representation.
That's my home. Oh my gosh.
Thank you. He checks the the alien DEI.
Yeah. We were future proofing, that's
all. Come on, guys.
All right, So double whammy, allright?
You want to talk about? You want to talk about sharing

(01:05:02):
the best of human music? If you say La La land, I'm
leaving. It's not La La land, don't
worry. You want to talk about sharing
the best of human music? Imagine you are You just laid
waste to a planet, but you find one single DVD and this is the
only thing that you have to think of the human race.

(01:05:24):
And honestly, if you think aboutit, it is somewhat in a in a
certain argument, painfully accurate.
That is none other than Mamma Mia, the man.
Now let them let them listen to ABBA.
I think we can change them. Now think about this like, like

(01:05:45):
if we're like at a standoff withthese aliens and it's like,
wait, no, don't hurt him, I can fix him.
And then we play ABBA. I think they would be like, hold
on. This kind of this kind of goes
hard. Hold on.
Maybe. Just human.
Maybe these humans aren't so bad.
And then they're like, Gimme, Gimme, Gimme.
You know, that's the aliens singing and they're and then we

(01:06:07):
can dance off. Just like wasting your emotions.
Listen, listen. I think, I think the doc scene
alone from that movie could savethe planet.
I think that we could it's so fun.
It's so catchy like how could you not?
How could you annihilate a humanrace when we made Mamma Mia?

(01:06:31):
I don't understand how that works.
He's. Got a point?
Let him cook. That would change.
That would change my heart. At least.
My next movie is a movie that I think genuinely has the
potential of falling into obscurity based on what what has
been going on the last few years.

(01:06:52):
And this is a movie that is quintessential to modern humor
and I think that it doesn't get enough credit for what it did
for modern humor. Not just this movie, but like
what this movie encapsulates of a larger IP if you will, and
that is the 2014 Muppets movie. Now I will never let this movie

(01:07:18):
die because this is genuinely one of the funniest movies ever
made and it translates so well across all generations and all
like all cultures. Like The Muppets are some of the
most classic like comedy we could get.
And I'm really don't want Disneyto just kind of like brush them

(01:07:42):
aside and be like, oh, no more Muppets 3D vision or like no
more that like I really want them to to be preserved and to
live on because they're so quintessential to our humor.
Like The Muppets was doing it first.
Like it's all it. Every single type of humor you
can think of, The Muppets was doing in one of the most like

(01:08:05):
creative and heartfelt ways. And so like, I hope that my
great grandchildren get to watchThe Muppets.
And if it's this one, like this is a great movie and it's kind
of like a more accessible version of what makes The
Muppets so great because it has modern actors, has modern

(01:08:26):
filmmaking techniques that like,hold that, but they still hold
up really well. And it's a very classic movie
that like is like 11 years old now and it's still so good.
Like it holds up so well. I know, I know, The Muppets
being 11 years old. I remember seeing that movie in
the theater bro Oh my goodness. All right, all right.

(01:08:51):
Hit me with it. OK, how many do you have left?
Oh, I have to take out Star Wars66.
How many do you? Have 5.
OK, that works because there's one on my list that I want to

(01:09:12):
take off, so OK, perfect. Sick.
I'm thinking we do two and two and then two and two and then
the final. And then the final.
And then the final. OK, OK, I.
Know exactly what I'm gonna I have the perfect one for my
final. I'm so excited.
I think it's gonna be. Great.
OK, I gotta go between one or two.

(01:09:35):
I gotta. So give me two more.
Next two one is going to be kindof something that can spark the
alien's ability to be creative and kind of like harness that
inner creativity and how puttinglike walls and boxes around
yourself isn't a good idea. Like let everyone be expressive,
let everyone be creative and also continue the trend of

(01:09:57):
freaking them out and thinking that our physical objects in
toys are alive. And that is The Lego Movie from
2. 1014 I almost put the Lego Movie on here.
Because listen, it's so funny. It's such a good movie about
finding your place and understanding who you are in the
greater context of the world andalso not restraining yourself to

(01:10:19):
a box but being creative and everyone has a different
creative style and that's OK. Like trying to force everyone to
be 1 certain way doesn't work. But also then they'll think all
of our Legos are alive and there's so many, like a tiny
little trimmer shaking an Emmettminifigure and they're like,
Yep. We're going to get out of here.

(01:10:40):
So. Good word, There's that good
word. And continuing on the animation
pipe pipeline, this is not the movie I was going to do, but I
already started myself. Is a movie.
I think unless you have a movie of this type on your list, I
don't think we've covered it yet.
I think it's something fundamental to the human

(01:11:01):
experience that we're missing and we're forgetting, OK?
And that is our holidays. We did not teach these aliens
about our holidays, our customs,to cultures and traditions.
So what better than the only holiday anyone cares to
celebrate, and that's Christmas.I don't know why my throat's

(01:11:23):
bugging up on me today, but I think we should leave behind not
only a not only a great Christmas movie.
Right. But one that teaches them about
faith and believing and understanding all of that and
also shows how freaking cool ourtrains were.

(01:11:47):
And that is the hit Christmas movie The Polar Express.
And we are leaving that sucker behind so they can say Dang
those humans made train. Cooked.
They're so cooked. They got icy places over the top
of the planet or you know, in the middle.
If you want to think the earth is flat, which it is, you can
say show him Santa. They'll think he's some kind of

(01:12:10):
celestial like guardian or something of the planet.
Here's a question. Do you think if aliens watched
The Polar Express they'd think that some people just looked
like that? Yes.
Or, based on a current theory, it sounds like they might think
that. They Yeah, that's what they look

(01:12:31):
like. Those were humans.
Great. Not us.
Great pick. I'm going to I'm going to swap
around one of my picks to fit the vibe.
So I was thinking the same thing.
I was like, what is a quintessential human experience
that that we, you know, we need to convey to not just future

(01:12:52):
generations, but like it to these extraterrestrials?
Like what, what do we have that they may not have?
And I think what I came to his family, maybe they don't have
families or maybe our future generations have lost the value
of families. Now here's the thing on the
Christmas vibe. I was thinking, OK, I need at
least one holiday movie because it is quintessential to the

(01:13:16):
human experiences, the holidays.And I was thinking, how do we,
how do we share them the value of family in a realistic way
that doesn't that kind of shows the hardships and the, and the
issues, but also just like the, the unconditional love that a
family can bring that also showsthem how to kick some bad guy.

(01:13:40):
But that's why Home Alone is oneof the movies I would preserve
forever. This is one of the
quintessential child experiencesis being home alone, right?
I was literally just talking to someone about this yesterday
about how like, I love being home alone.
I love like, if I can blast my music, if I can, you know, turn

(01:14:02):
on a YouTube video on the TV andlike, just like chill and
whatever. But then at night I get
terrified because I'm like, someone's going to break in.
I'm going to get shot. Like someone's going to snatch
like super like like not valid, like valid fears, but like
there's they don't come from anything, so like. 20s and I
still feel that way. Right, Literally same.

(01:14:23):
So Home Alone is takes that universal experience of being
home alone and Christmas and being resourceful and family and
all this stuff. But it's also an epic action
thriller. And also here's the thing, it is
like the quintessential, like 90s experience.
It is like the big house, house with the big family and the

(01:14:46):
whole like the the 90s vibe. Home Alone needs to be preserved
forever. Now on a completely like, maybe
polar opposite way, as far away from Home Alone as possible, I
had to choose what I consider tobe one of the most human pieces

(01:15:08):
of media in history. And I had to choose one that
summed up a much darker side of the human experience that I
don't that I don't think we've touched on yet.
And I don't think that this is one that I would want an
extraterrestrial life to only have because they would have a

(01:15:29):
very skewed view of, of the human race.
But also they could get a deeperinsight into our emotions and
our feelings, and they could feel how we feel inside.
And that's why Inside by Bo Burnham is on my movies We
preserve forever because it was such.

(01:15:51):
It is such an encapsulation of an era of life that we all had
to experience that just showed it and conveyed it in a way that
no one else has been able to capture.
Like Bo Burnham is truly a tortured poet.
Like he is a genius and has given us inside as a gift.

(01:16:16):
And we are just like we just getto enjoy it.
And so I, I hope that we never lose.
I hope that we, we never lose the lesson we learned from
inside and just never take for granted the freedom we have to
go be with people and to go hangout and to be in friendship and

(01:16:38):
be in community. Because Inside captures the
loneliness and just the anxiety that comes from that in a way
that no one else has done in a piece of art the way that I've
seen Inside do it, at least in for me.
So Mull that over Inside, Preserved forever.

(01:17:00):
That's fair. That's.
I need it on Blu-ray dog. I got it.
Inside. Some gosh, Netflix is just.
OK, so this is my final 2 beforethe final and this is going to
kind of culturally could show different aspects of our history
and kind of OK, one could show what humanity was like like in

(01:17:26):
the way like way back in the past, right.
OK, almost in medieval times if you right.
Oh MIDI. And that is going to be the Lord
of the Rings trilogy. Yes.
Because who? Are we good?
Who are we to not preserve one of the greatest trilogies of all

(01:17:53):
time? True truth facts.
Put the extended editions on there too.
Factual. They got to factual.
They got to understand. You can't not leave behind some
of JRR Tolkien's writing. Literally.
You have to. And we're not talking about
books we preserve, but if we were Lord of the Rings would be

(01:18:14):
in there. But since we're not, we're
talking about movies, Lord of the Rings, obviously Jackson.
And you know, you might be able to convince them that that's
actually like real a non fictionstory and that it's actually
just like our history. Because I feel like aliens came
from hobbits. If aliens are on the Earth like

(01:18:37):
hobbits and like the Shire is probably pretty low.
Like pretty high on the list of probability like.
And here's that's not. Even the weirdest.
Thing they'd see filmed on earthso they could go find these
places and find that. True.
They just got to go to New Zealand and.
They'd find big brain now and then.
Us in America rises up because they're in New Zealand.

(01:19:02):
Yes, big brain. Then something that I think
could kind of show the aliens the error of their ways and why
you shouldn't, you know, treat people poorly and you should
treat them with respect and how you want to be treated.
And kind of like teach them thatgolden rule if you will, But
also be really funny and show them that maybe they too need
some less than qualified hench men to help them in their

(01:19:28):
endeavor. And maybe the importance of
Llamas and that he's going to bethe Emperor's new groove.
Yes. We can't leave.
We can't not leave behind the best Disney movie of all time.
Come on man. Don't think it's funny?
Maybe we shouldn't have wiped out all the.
Humans. Because if any.
Of them were half as funny as Cronk.

(01:19:48):
They could live and they could be OK.
So true. But they're not.
They're dead. But we left them Emperor's New
Groove so they could have a goodtime.
Enjoy it. You're welcome.
Real. OK, here's my last two before
before the final. All right, you ready?
I'm going to leave them behind. Only one of the greatest.

(01:20:13):
Only one of the greatest just action comedies of all time.
OK. And it needs to preserve a piece
of our history that I think is already close to dying out, at
least corporately in America. And that is the shopping mall.

(01:20:33):
That's why the aliens will be left with Paul Blart, Mall Cop,
which is one of the greatest movies ever made.
Don't think it's hilarious. And then they'll also have a
respect for mall security guardsin a way that we just don't,
because they'll think that what Paul Blart is doing is what all

(01:20:56):
mall security guards have been dealing with for years.
And they will gain a respect forthe Segway usage and all these
things and just just revel in Kevin James brilliance.
Now here's the thing. My last movie before my last
movie is a recent one recently came out.

(01:21:21):
And, and I think that this is a,a movie that we should show them
because based on, based on what they, what they look like, what
the aliens are like. But if they're, if they're like,
kind of like what we've had likemainstream aliens to be like, if
that's true, they may feel freedby this movie.

(01:21:44):
They may feel accepted by this movie.
This movie could make them feel like everyone deserves a chance
to fly. That's why I feel like one of
the movies we should preserve forever is none other than
Wicked. Because if the aliens come in

(01:22:04):
and they're all green, right, they'll be like, oh what the
heck, Like these these humans hate us.
But then they watch Wicked and they realize they could get a
higher education. They could go to Shizz
University. They could, you know, be
smarter, be more than they were meant to be, be more.

(01:22:24):
They could be more. And then also they'll be like
dad gum. Humans can sing.
Humans are good. They look at this art that we're
singing. Their color grade isn't great,
but Dad gum, they can sing. And that's why Wicked should be
preserved forever. Humans can't color grade, but
you know what they can sing. They sure Can't Sing, though.

(01:22:50):
OK, there you go. Hit me with your final pick, the
one that's going to save humanity.
Whoa. Whoa.
All right, let me hear it. Save humanity?
I don't know. So I've looked at a lot of
movies on this list, OK. Some of it is like the best of
the best, like Avengers and Lordof the Rings and Star Wars.

(01:23:12):
And then some of it's a little like more low key, a little more
like low tier like Transformers and Cars 2 and you know that
kind of stuff. And then some of it like has
great life lessons like The LegoMovie or The Princess Bride or
even Toy Story, like all of it kind of blends together.
But what are we? What are we truly, truly missing

(01:23:33):
from the human experience? And that is more a guide on what
not to do when making movies andwhat not to do when it comes to
the human experience. And you might be thinking, what
is like, humans have made dozens, hundreds, millions of

(01:23:54):
movies. And you might be asking
yourself, what is the one movie that solidifies all of this
together and shows them if any of these aliens want to be film
makers on Earth or on their distant planet?
Like, what should we not do, right?
What movie solidifies that? None other than the movie that

(01:24:18):
intentionally probably did not mean to have the most counts of
like, arrestable offenses. What?
None other you're. Talking about.
Then Madam Webb. Stop.
Hear me out. Preserve it for the aliens.
A perfect pick, because they'll know.

(01:24:40):
They'll learn what not to do when it comes to making movies.
They'll learn that it's actuallynot OK to kidnap teenage girls
and steal a car and cause thousands of dollars in property
damage. They'll learn that it's not OK
to stalk teenage girls and want to kill them because you had a
weird prophetic dream that they're going to kill you and do

(01:25:01):
some self reflection on why they're trying to kill you.
It'll tell them that they shouldn't do ADR in POST if
you're trying to change the script.
Around, they'll show you that. If you want to make a Spider Man
movie, just make it about SpiderMan Amen.
Amen. Hallelujah.
That's a good word. That's a great pick.

(01:25:24):
All right, My final pick and ourfinal pick of this episode is
one of my favorite films of all time, and that's not why I
picked it. I picked this movie because I
thought that if humans thought if aliens thought that all
humans were like the humans in this movie, I think they would

(01:25:45):
spare and I would think that. Not only that, I realized after
talking about all these aliens for so long, I kind of crave
their validation. And I think that if they watched
this movie and then met me, theywould think that humans were

(01:26:08):
kind of cool and they would feelthat this was they would feel
that that like we could be chill.
And they were like, oh, that's kind of gnarly.
Like you guys, you guys do some cool stuff.
Like, you guys are fun, and thatis none other than Ferris
Bueller's Day Off I think. I think that if aliens watched

(01:26:29):
Ferris Bueller's Day Off, they would realize that humans are
just misunderstood and that there are enough Ferris
Bueller's in the world to to shake it up and make it fun.
And, and you know, we go on trips and we, we, you know, we
steal our parents card. And they're like they, they
experience the highs and lows ofbeing being an American teenager

(01:26:51):
and capturing that experience and going out and looking at
look, they look at art, they look at art and Ferris Bueller's
Day Off and they go into the city and it's the parade and
it's like all this stuff. And it's the, and it's the the
lesson of like, of accepting whoyou are and just living a little
and like sitting up and just notfeeling like everything has to

(01:27:12):
be perfect. And it's like taking that
perfection away from like, it's not your job to be perfect.
And I think that if they watchedthat, they would understand us a
little bit and they'd be like, you know what?
You're right. This world weighs on you pretty
hard. And I think you guys are pretty
cool. And I think you guys are going
to be OK. And then we're all BFS with the

(01:27:34):
aliens and we DAP each other up.We have a secret handshake and
my best friend is an alien. Wow.
That's my story. I think Ferris Bueller's Day Off
should be preserved forever. Yeah, I think that's a good
list. So as far as I know, there's a
secret bunker underneath the White House.

(01:27:56):
I. Think OK.
Where they put movies and like other pop culture things so that
if there ever was like a nuclearHolocaust and like it killed
everyone. Is this true or is this?
Yeah. OK I'm pretty sure this is true.
I'm going to Fact Check myself. Is there a secret vault?

(01:28:21):
'Cause if there is like I want to know what they're actually
putting. Down there for movies.
Was it when? I think it was in the maybe the
80s when they sent The Beatles song into space.
Do you remember that? No, it's called like it's what
is it called? How does capitalism work?

(01:28:47):
No. How does the government?
Prisoner. Oh my gosh.
Movies. So we have sent 3 songs into
space. No for extraterrestrial life to
listen to. We have sent the We have sent
Johnny Be Good by Chuck Berry. That's a great song.

(01:29:09):
We have sent Across the Universeby The Beatles and we've also
sent The Rain Supa Dupa Fly by Missy Elliott into space.
OK, So what there are so this isso the Library of Congress is

(01:29:32):
what I was thinking of. Oh yeah.
And that's where they preserve all of these movies.
Now, whether or not they stick them under, like in a vault
somewhere for nuclear fallout prevention reasons, I don't
know. I think they probably should
start doing that if they don't already.
However, let's pretend that theydo.
If they do, the movies I want them to put in include Emperor's

(01:29:54):
New Group, Star Wars One through6, The Princess Bride, The Polar
Express, The Lego Movie, Guardians of the Galaxy,
Transformers 1, specifically theMichael Bay Transformers 1, not
the animated one. We had to suffer for too long to
get a good Transformers movies. The aliens do not get it that
easy. The entire Lord of the Rings
trilogy, Cars 2, Toy Story, Avengers Infinity War, Avengers

(01:30:18):
End Game, and Madame Web. WW List If If I could add stuff
to the Library of Congress to keep forever, to keep for future
generations and for any extraterrestrial life that would
come by, I would give Jurassic Park, the B Movie, The Cat in
the Hat, Planes, Trains and Automobiles, Robin Hood, Mamma

(01:30:40):
Mia, The Muppets Inside Mall Cop, Home Alone, Wicked, Return
of the Jedi, and Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
That's so fair. Such a good.
List, I'm going to call the president right now.
Right now, get him on the line. Get.
Him on the line, He's busy rightnow.
I have to. Call.
OK, that's fair. That's fair.
He goes to a different school. We can wait, We can wait.

(01:31:01):
Oh, you're right. Unless you have anything else to
add, I think it's time to wrap up.
Sure don't. Guys, thank you so much for
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We hope that you had such a goodtime.
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future generations or for any extraterrestrial life that you
think just capture the human experience?

(01:31:22):
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space? And if you are an alien, can you
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